pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

I'd say $100 is my spend monthly doesn't vary though really

and that is because I want the skin packs also (monthly pass + the other one if there is one)

with the odd gacha skin thrown in it's averaging that

[gritty ridge]

Id say I spend abt 200 a month on average

[shell hazel]

it's light whale/heavy dolphin

you're def whaling more than me then 😄

[gritty ridge]

2 gacha skins 4 pass skins basically

[shell hazel]

not per month though

no shot we get 2 gacha skins per month

[gritty ridge]

Ive been playing for 5 ish months, I have more than 5 gavha skins

[shell hazel]

yeah though you started when 2 were up prob

at anni?

or similar

[gritty ridge]

I started a bit before 2.5 yeah

Crust banner

[shell hazel]

so we had 2 then immediately

there are 2 per anni

then the odd other one, and can't really count scar I think

[tropic summit]

man here i am spending 0$ every month, i'm so 🧱

[shell hazel]

that sounds like a you problem Rail 😛

[tropic summit]

sounds more like a solution than a problem

[gritty ridge]

Lemme count my skins

[tropic summit]

my conscience is clean in not supporting scammy practices

game can rot with their gacha anti-player mechanics

[shell hazel]

my conscience is full of fantastic gameplay of rapi in the rapi gacha skin

[tropic summit]

which you can play a few minutes a day, unless you're finally able to push or a SR comes in

[shell hazel]

can't push atm 🙁

[tropic summit]

i understand thee pain

[shell hazel]

but yeah as we said before it's a lot but it's not as much as it could be haha

[tropic summit]

game doesn't want us to play it because gating

[shell hazel]

there are definitely bigger whalers than me

[tropic summit]

mah jokes aside, while you're still contributing, you're not the major issue yourself

it's the community of whels the issue

[shell hazel]

I respect each players decision to spend or not of their own accord, though the devs want your money by any means necessary and will use mechanics to push it

[glad glade]

@umbral belfry hello hello. Time to return the favor

[tropic summit]

eggscatly

[shell hazel]

and the fact there is no limit to spending/whaling means the big fish really just play with their food

[tropic summit]

yummy 💳

[shell hazel]

but as we mentioned before they don't really play the game anymore they just outspend - most of my spending is on the tickets/skins still

[tropic summit]

preying on those fools with weak money control

[shell hazel]

very little is advancing my levels

despite this I still have no core maxes for now 😄

though I expect that to change at some point

[tropic summit]

let's see what ananta brings to the table anyway, seems like the next hurdle for games like nikke

[shell hazel]

I like the look of it and will play it at least

[tropic summit]

if ananta shocks the market would be interesting

[shell hazel]

I'm going to try out chaos zero nightmare full game as well but they have hoyo rates and such, I don't know if it will hold my attention for long

[tropic summit]

a game that wants you to play and not to gate you with currency? bring back player friendly games and less payer friendly games

[shell hazel]

I think it's a dated model and I won't whale for it if I'm already spending here

I also don't want huge time grinds - this will have to be balanced

if something takes me 20 hours of grinding to get I don't necessarily love that either - game just has to be fun + cosmetics or similar

there are games out there like that, but ultimately they still sell you boosts (stuff like first descendent)

[tropic summit]

yes i agree

grinding is a thing of the 2000-2010s

[shell hazel]

I still very much enjoy just a normal game with no gacha tbh, and mix and match the two currently

which is why I'm playing ghost of yotei soon

[tropic summit]

what games need now is:

• respect your time
• make the journey fun
• make the endgame meaningful
• avoid stagnation, add new modes and new enjoyment regularly
• motivate coop with actual fun and not just for the sake of existing
• same to pvp, should exist and be rewarding and absolutely not promote toxicity or cheating in any form (p2p)

[shell hazel]

depends on the game I dislike live pvp tbh

which you may find surprising as I'm big into this one haha

[tropic summit]

i mostly would stay away from pvp myself, unless it's actually clicking with the game

e.g. PvP in the form of PvE can be fun without having the constraints of actual standard pvp

[shell hazel]

I don't mind this style of afk pvp

or simply pvp for leaderboards (as long as cheaters are dealt with and there isn't a large advantage to be had with whaling)

[swift mango]

@mystic rain gotta be 4/4 lose to Chris if I lost today.
Bro only use Meta copy pasta too.

[shell hazel]

at least even with SR's the whales are level capped, imagine if they weren't 😄

[gritty ridge]

I have 7 gacha skins including scar

[tropic summit]

this is a fine point

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[shell hazel]

that may whel be more gacha skins than me

[tropic summit]

although realistically, i bet noone got the balls to make a game with the criteria i mentioned earlier

[gritty ridge]

And then I have 20 ish pass skins

[tropic summit]

they're gonna milk the current working formula until the bubble breaks

and i'm pretty sure people is getting tired of being milked

[gritty ridge]

Wait, not 20

Theres been more free skins than I thought

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/byee-lolol-gif-13058586

[shell hazel]

it wouldn't be so bad if they made the game better and actually released stuff without bugs all the time lol

I suspect they will milk Nikke until the new game comes out they're making

[gritty ridge]

I like cosmetics

[shell hazel]

then this will die and that will get all the attention

[tropic summit]

that's not stellar blade 2 right? what was it again

[shell hazel]

nah it was project witches but they changed it

[tropic summit]

be real, you like dis

[shell hazel]

I dislike her face it just looks wrong lmao

[tropic summit]

definitely different face than her original one

[shell hazel]

it's so weird tbh

[tropic summit]

got changed into smuggy/cute

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

actually normal rouge is pretty serious looking

this one lost a few years and turned dumb

[tropic summit]

exactly haha

[coarse lake]

whenever I see someone with that skin, my opinion of them drops by a lil bit

[shell hazel]

even as a gacha skin-haverer I will avoid the mid ones

[cunning crown]

Think I'm avenging @nimble swan next if that's my opponent, battery too low to check rn

[tropic summit]

man has got tastes

[shell hazel]

yeah it's the 86 guy I think - knock em dead!

[glad glade]

Whats the point of a reverse bunny suit if its all covered up? At that point a normal bunny suit would have been better

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't really get the censorship, then we have sdoro and it's fine lmao

[swift mango]

Somehow or another, along with Vesti team this team of mine is still undefeated.

[gritty ridge]

I wouldve liked it more if the lobby screen used a few frames earlier when her coat fell

[shell hazel]

and she has probably the most shooting pose fanservice in the game atm

[shell hazel]

why on earth is your opponent running anchor? 🙁

I thought people in SEA were good, this guy running baka comp

I wish I ran into more opponents running inept teams haha

[swift mango]

Why on earth is me using 3.5rl Cindy.

[tropic summit]

ikr, imagine droppin' money on these scammers

[shell hazel]

because it keeps meeting stupid teams 😄

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kanata-konoe-love-live-nijigasaki-high-school-idol-club-grabby-hands-gif-5280429505768817445

[swift mango]

He is highest level day one player and research gap the bracket. He doesn't need to think.b

[tropic summit]

SEA is gud but then you look at @swift mango

he clearly drops the average

||cuz he likes crow||

[shell hazel]

even more so since you stole his emi

[swift mango]

In my defend this guy got to champ before defeating a good meta team with this exact line up. Just need luck man.

[tropic summit]

yeah silly emi-less, wouldn't be me

[gritty ridge]

Exactly

[nimble swan]

Spank that chinese bro in my place, please

[nimble swan]

Looking forward to @hollow lagoon vs @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

may the best 🐳 win

[river dune]

I tried going all the nades way except for the buttstocks, stimpacks and the other one that you have a four of I don't know if it's a silencer or scope definitely had a orange one and I think another one forgot the rarity,had 2 Stimpacks one Blue one Purple,and also 2 of those buttstocks one Orange the other one I forgot,6 grenades and 4 flamethrowers unfortunately didn't get far 42 I think still the score was absymal 383k

[hollow lagoon]

shift up nerfing friend ship powers

[tropic summit]

you guys just need to not roll natural 1s

[shell hazel]

it's 1 SG and all nades

[hollow lagoon]

have no idea how all nades work, don't do nuff dmg

[swift mango]

I have seen many tons of weird team just beating the odd of copy pasta meta teams lol...

I'm probably lose to the copy pasta meta team today though..

Lost to him 3 times already. 🫃

[tropic summit]

win ratio warriors too stronk

[tropic summit]

keep using high win ratio, someday they'll win you CA [c] average chinnit

[river dune]

I swear there's a method to this madness and I am not getting it

[shell hazel]

my scar/stall/vesti teams having a good run so far

[tropic summit]

wow sweaty

[shell hazel]

rail my opponent noah on their SG team got them the win in my last match

what a waste of a noah

it worked but if I was on attack not def I don't think it would have done

[tropic summit]

welcome to CA, where RNG will be your goddess of victory

[shell hazel]

haha I keep track of it every CA it doesn't say what team it loses to, just I can see if one team is doing particularly badly

or the opposite

[tropic summit]

but ye sides can decide a lot of things

and those are out of your control

[gritty ridge]

Am I fast enough to win here?

[tropic summit]

the day we get an actual pvp arena that tests your experience/knowledge is still far

[gritty ridge]

I dont think i am tbh

[tropic summit]

no, you B3 into noah B2

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats what I thought

Rrh indom it is

[shell hazel]

time for slow cindy

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rapi-red-hood-rapi-nikke-rapi-rapi-red-hood-nikke-nikke-gif-1125995940489295773

red hair powaaaaa

[swift mango]

This team is new, our SEA is still using Blanc+Vesti+Biscuit+Emi+Rumani more.

Synching Vesti and Emi shot could beat almost everything only Rossanna or biscuit threating it anyway.

[tropic summit]

synch shot is gonna get nerfed soon

[shell hazel]

won't build around bugs anyway

[tropic summit]

better not get used to it

[shell hazel]

waste of rocks when they fix it

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Getting more CS is always good.

[tropic summit]

although annoyed they wanted even a video and not just screenshots

[gritty ridge]

Poor fella

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

wow you about to delete those 2 teams

[tropic summit]

i made sure to specifiy the video comes from a certain bug abuser who's name starts with S and ends with WORDSMY

[shell hazel]

50 level gap is nothing

apparently

[swift mango]

Brother it's a feature. No worry.

[shell hazel]

if you're bigboi!

[tropic summit]

indeed i can see support just stating "intended behavior, here have 1 gem and move on"

[shell hazel]

I honestly think it's mostly a coin toss here lmao

I don't know if your bay helps much on SG team though

[tropic summit]

although if they fix it before my 2 chinnits find out it would be better

[hollow lagoon]

The one time I vote not my self

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

shall I vote you? 😄

then we both get a win/win

[tropic summit]

meanwhile hime just got a bit wet

[umbral belfry]

YIPPPPPPPPPPPIEEEEEE

[swift mango]

It's not like it's new behavior, it existed for a long time only waiting for an unit like Vesti to make it broken.

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[tropic summit]

sassuga bug abuser, was already using it since long time uh

[swift mango]

I remember some video months ago, last year even, when people asked why LapT one shot their P2 and we could just reply with "maybe their LapT had 100% Ele".

[glad glade]

Analysis says that you’ll win anyways, so I get to kill two birds with one stone now

[tropic summit]

you were laughting behind our back, fully knowing the true cause, these filthy sea players

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-the-cavern-spirit-gif-17978315803682945807

[swift mango]

I only know this because Ba7tial too. Or else I would have used this long ago.

[tropic summit]

well can't blame you, spaghetti code with extra salsa is tasty

[shell hazel]

@cunning crown check our match see what you think

[swift mango]

It's very easy to come across this with Vesti. 8% Emi and 5% Vesti is very easy to reach.

[rich ledge]

except us newer players dont have emilia

[gritty ridge]

I forgot I needed biscuit in trinas place in t2

[swift mango]

15% from any RL is easy to reach too. LapT should be around 5-11% to hit it.

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon

I win the match or I win some crates. the power of friendship continues

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/super-action-news-thorti-soup-spoon-stare-gif-24054411

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-win-win-michael-scott-steve-carell-winner-gif-17966862

[tropic summit]

noah flex

[gritty ridge]

Yknow if I had tempura cube on her she probably wouldve lived

Either way, biscuit wouldve meant noah burst but same result in the end

[cunning crown]

trust the plan. they've called me zael, scourge of CN rivals ever since I took @shell hazel' advice and replaced sbs with vesti

(I lose this if scar fails to crack nero stall but we'll see)

[tropic summit]

he's not gemming, a normal person

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[cunning crown]

haven't yet had a dishonourable gemmer rival

[nimble swan]

lol I hope you will continue this killing spree

[shell hazel]

my whales team

[gritty ridge]

I could beat that fir 12 dollars

[shell hazel]

that is what the whale charges to beat it

I can still beat it so despite being sr-15 and max cores and +24 sync (atm lol) still doable

[gritty ridge]

Only 24 sync dif?

Pshaw

[shell hazel]

yes I jumped to 401 and that reduced it a bit

but it's higher sync and actual invest

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

+50-60 sync with these units I couldn't do

would be gapped then

[rich ledge]

wow 900k at 426

[shell hazel]

yeah they're trying to cp gap me

but plot twist: it doesn't work 😄

[rich ledge]

hes only 20+ higher than you whale is not whaling enough

[shell hazel]

my sentiments exactly

was 30, I was holding some crates for the cp jump in one hit

starting that again atm so I'll gather my crates and use them at the right time

[rich ledge]

my server's top whale is 50 levels higher than me still even if we count my unused boxes

currently is 60+ above me

[gritty ridge]

What are my chances chat

[swift mango]

need 40 level gap at least to get you to deficit.

[swift mango]

chance

[umbral crown]

Testing luck against 556 sync

Tomorrow

[gritty ridge]

If I only had rumani or centi invested

[cunning crown]

that round 3 will be

[swift mango]

Why cheer him? 😡

Losing frame?

[tropic summit]

extra crispy

[gritty ridge]

You can see my attempt above

[tropic summit]

oh the irony, that's one of my rookie teams

[tropic summit]

think you should be beating this guy

the biscuit lock attempt is correct but the CP isn't

what's the other team like?

[gritty ridge]

Higher cp

526k

[tropic summit]

ok

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[tropic summit]

where box

[swift mango]

He got 90 level 5 tiers gapped, he ain't gonna make it, if enemy just auto team.

[tropic summit]

you gotta believe

[gritty ridge]

Wtf

It was 5 images what do you mean "too many"

[tropic summit]

i thought someone said we could post 10 at a time

[swift mango]

Sorry my bad eyes. He only got 69 level and 3 tier gapped. But I doubt he had the investment to beat

[gritty ridge]

We could

[tropic summit]

69

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

show le CP of this

if this one makes it, you're fine, else go grab your slippers and rest

[swift mango]

🛌

[tropic summit]

366 vs 502 is...

28%

grab the slippers

[gritty ridge]

Below 30

I can sync up 5 levels but I dont wanna

[tropic summit]

5 lvls aint gonna do it

you need 281

[gritty ridge]

What if my crown wasnt cp bricked

[swift mango]

The 5 image grace period is over. Back to 4 slot boys.

[gritty ridge]

5 was the normal tho...

[swift mango]

4 was the normal for years.. only 5 like 2 weeks ago.

I wasn't able to post 5 yesterday either

[gritty ridge]

Why did they let us grasp greatness then rip it away

[gritty ridge]

I do not have that many boxes

[tropic summit]

back to living under a bridge

[swift mango]

I found a cave in the park to live in, way better than the bridge.

[gritty ridge]

Omg, when are you due

[swift mango]

After you.

[gritty ridge]

Whos the father

[swift mango]

Same as yours.

[gritty ridge]

I dont know mine, it happened at a Halloween party

[river dune]

@tropic summit one of my rolls on Scarlet

[swift mango]

Guess we went to same party together then.

[gritty ridge]

Wait, are you the dad?

And im the dad of yours?

[swift mango]

I think we got the wrong script. I thought you made reference from that one h3nt4i.

[umbral belfry]

me

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

But hime, youre already my father-mother with rail

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Inc3st is real.

[gritty ridge]

This is a weird family tree

[river dune]

LoL so you guys are PvP family

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

very gud, all the stats you need

now get black line atk and crit rate then screenshot it to @swift mango to make him jelly

[tropic summit]

a lovely place surely

cave + internet + food + eletricity + water + android cat waifu (optional) = the dream

[swift mango]

Never knew I need an Android cat waifu until you told me, now I can't unsee.

[shell hazel]

oh no what have I walked into

[shell hazel]

it's bay vs xanne

[swift mango]

My SpA is lazy now after a month of war so this dude had the time to hit me.... Maybe I should open the box to 481 soon.

[shell hazel]

what whel doing?

[swift mango]

Have fun

[shell hazel]

where gem spend?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-look-gif-24835232

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit pull Evernight for me

[shell hazel]

well they're a whel, why they sit there for a day not spamming gems

[covert lintel]

Why would you save box?
Open it

[shell hazel]

new chapters

more value from crates

[swift mango]

He just sit there for fun after unable to auto my teams a month ago. Now he opened his box and can auto.

[sinful quarry]

Hola amigos!
This time I'm going for the golden border, can the PVP gods help me and could potentially tell which side is going to win?

[shell hazel]

it's just the new owner of the account

they're having to learn the game

[swift mango]

I mean, he still sleep and wake up, then hit at similar times to before. Just like the last 1.5 years. His routine doesn't really change.

[shell hazel]

just a whole day of slacking

[covert lintel]

The top 15 of my bracket did that but their level was even farther than me

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal I was tasked by the pies to ask how much cs your vesti has

[shell hazel]

the council of pies requires information

[small hatch]

Chat, I implore you. Top = ATK
Do you think the Sugar shotgun team has enough dmg to kill the remaining stall team consisting of Moran, Helm, Bay+ with their Burst? Or can the half-dead Helm team make a comeback and survive against Sugar's trash af burst?

[swift mango]

As you could see here. 2.5rl with a SG triggering it (ASS) and Noah could block 2rl B3 without much CS (overall 11%).

[wet crystal]

15%

[shell hazel]

if SG is on def I don't really see how they lose that. They kill rapu first then Ros should kill HelmT/RH (with the help of the other SG's)

at a certain point they won't have a B3 to B3 with anymore

[umbral belfry]

🥧

[umbral belfry]

thank u my friend but also

[wet crystal]

[small hatch]

Yeah, I know, but after the SG does that they still need to deal with Moran b1 into Bay b2 and Helm b3. I believe Helm might be able to retaliate with her snipe and outheal the remaining seconds of the fight.

[shell hazel]

probably everything dies pretty quick

have they faced a similar team in any previous matches?

might give you a clue

[small hatch]

Yes, but with the ATK and DEF position switched. SG on the atk against a defending stall was clearly a no-brainer.
This one is a bit more nuanced because Poli+ and Sugar on def have the initial advantage of taking out Rapu and RH early, but that SG team hasn't won a single round and might struggle to finish Bay+.

[shell hazel]

can check the opposite

has that stall comp faced a SG comp who was def?

as well as has that SG comp faced a stall comp on their side of things

if the ros is bricked invest low atk then she may fail to kill HelmT on burst

her burst should hit helm and RH though once rapu dies, and then RH gets the assist from the other SG units also

[violet spoke]

@hoary maple You attacked XP and he attacked you back before yesterday's reset right?

[small hatch]

I was worried that Sugar's non-existent dmg and useless burst might give Helm stall the opportunity for a late burst rotation into a comeback victory. But it seems that Rosanna's dmg alone is enough to finish the remaining three and pick them apart with just enough pressure. I don't think this SG team is any good, but this round is gonna be their first actual W.

[shell hazel]

can't always see the full investment as cp and cores only do so much of that

can look good but all the rolls are like hit rate or ammo or w/e and it's just cp pad

no atk/ele rolls or anything

but on relatively equal invest I'd given the win to the SG team there typically

[gaunt pulsar]

doesn't look like those sg at their peak performance when all of them at max core and still 10-20k cp behind max helmT and RH, but I do think they should win, even if sugar only gets aspd she does get it with poliT and drakeT attack buffs

[desert sphinx]

battle of the century

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ff7-leeroy-jenkins-final-fantasy-vii-funny-aeris-gif-12048003388214153327

two gladiators enter
one leaves
other one also leaves (but later) and gets 6h credit

we've voted for eachother

[hollow obsidian]

it depends on how strong that rosanna will be. then again, that team uses bay, not nero. SG wins

[shell hazel]

I also think it's too slow, and with rapu dead, will only get slower

if they have enough CS then they can be 2.5RL but anything less and it's not 2.5RL anymore

[small hatch]

That definitely plays a major role as well, of course.
But if the SG truly wins this, then this also aligns with the overall prediction of the crowd, 30%/70% believing that player on def should win, taking the W home.

[shell hazel]

RH here is basically not doing anything

I will say the crowd is often wrong 😄

[hollow obsidian]

i would say
nero diff

[shell hazel]

top 8 last time I had people voting against me 80-90% on all 3 final matches and I won it anyway

apologies @oblique gyro I may need to hit you a bit in rookie again I've been avoiding doing so - will be just 1 match per day max 🙂

you're welcome to hit me back if I'm in range

[hoary maple]

Yes I think that is correct

[violet spoke]

Okay so he is using gems/tokens then

[shell hazel]

damn you guys swap around a lot

[hoary maple]

Yeah victory is short lived, lol

[violet spoke]

He sniped me last second b4 reset yesterday and me and echo were wondering if it was a 3rd attack + it seems he did it again today

[hoary maple]

Best I can do is attack when they are sleeping, otherwise they hit back within an hour

[shell hazel]

fast and brutal as always

it's 3 vs 1 though 😄

[spare nimbus]

will team 1 and 3 win?

[shell hazel]

is t1 2RL?

if so I don't see how it fails

[swift mango]

I could see hippo changed vote last minute and walk out with 6 credit boxes.

[shell hazel]

I won't do that

[spare nimbus]

yes team 1 is 2rl, im unsure about the last team

[drowsy bridge]

I can use some input on this matchup! Tez is defense and oats is offense

[shell hazel]

I doubt it even matters I think it will be close, I can't call who wins blood :p

I vote zanta I get something either way

[shell hazel]

you're 2RL scar on team 3, what speed is the opponent for that one?

[spare nimbus]

not sure

possibly 2.5?

[mystic rain]

wait have u actually never won vs chris

[spare nimbus]

maybe this is better?

[shell hazel]

yeah it's 2.5 not far off 2 even but can't make it

you just need 2RL noah/bay any team to beat the scar/ros

you could use bay to save noah for a better team

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/march-7th-march-7th-hsr-evernight-evernight-hsr-march-7th-trailer-gif-10961543094378801685

[mystic rain]

wont ros kill whoever his b3 tho

[shell hazel]

not if it's xmaiden

[spare nimbus]

my xmaiden sr0

[shell hazel]

she's a defender. helm may die but xmaiden finishes that one

it's fine as long as she's in cp range

they have no def once ros/scar fail

biscuit protects p1 - p3

your 2RL scar has all the pieces you need left to still run it

then you just need to match their cindy speed a bit, but I'd run vesti instead of cindy along with noise/noah

[spare nimbus]

so this then?

[shell hazel]

let's check speed of your t2 quick

they will speed you up as cindy is p1

[spare nimbus]

should be good right?

his team is also 2.5rl i think

[shell hazel]

it could be 2RL if they have enough CS on emi etc

you can slow down a bit with bringin rapu instead of emi

[placid bloom]

yours is more like 2.1RL because of Vesti timings

[spare nimbus]

i won team 1-2 lost 3

[shell hazel]

oh you sent it?

[spare nimbus]

looks like anis got indom

[tropic summit]

a classic

oh the right anis got the indom tho

i was hoping for SR anis indom

[shell hazel]

SR anis indom is key

yeah t1 went exactly as I saw it going

vesti and emi is a fairly strong p1-p3 nuke as well so good to see that worked

[spare nimbus]

ugh his anis dying screwed up my burst gen

a few rls missed

[shell hazel]

looks like you actually killed cindy and they burst with emi instead for t2

did noah survive to burst or was it biscuit?

[placid bloom]

Noah should always survive in that scenario, you cannot kill Biscuit before Noah gets low enough from Vesti missiles

[spare nimbus]

Next time, I will use rosanna instead of red hood

[shell hazel]

yes ros an option

also soda an option

rng stun ftw 😄

[shell hazel]

but yeah good to keep the xmaiden/bay version for 2rl scar comps it works pretty well, though you more or less need helm there

[spare nimbus]

finally after like a million hours it sends

[shell hazel]

danke 🙂

oh they res s.anis

[placid bloom]

the death timing was just unlucky tbh

[shell hazel]

consider upgrading xmaiden a bit in terms of doll etc, and skills if you left her low

[placid bloom]

that's the downside of Scar counter being too strong

[shell hazel]

she should one tap the scar

[placid bloom]

you can slow yourself down by accident

[spare nimbus]

xmaiden 4 10 7 sr0 with 0 elemental so useless in UR

[shell hazel]

I got mine on 7/10/7

[spare nimbus]

at least she has one charge speed line 💀

[shell hazel]

her charge speed doesn't actually matter much here tbh

native 2RL with that comp, with or without it

you also have the option of running your own anti-indom against that if you find it's more reliable than scar nuke

you have jackal which they don't as well

[spare nimbus]

this wins right

i usually just cp diff this team but now he is getting a bit close

[shell hazel]

their ros might kill your helm though, but it's trina b2

blanc what do here?

[spare nimbus]

gives scarlet indom

trina supposed to die

[shell hazel]

blanc for them does nothing

she may not die though in 2RL

your helm shoots p5 as well

[tropic summit]

take the safe approach

noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise

[shell hazel]

lol wut

[tropic summit]

he happened to use scar-jack and noah biscuit helmt by accident

[spare nimbus]

how do helm and laplace not die

[tropic summit]

noise

direct counter to rosanna 1hitko to full HP units

[spare nimbus]

do u have any videos? I alr used my attempts lol

[tropic summit]

eh it's the same principle with which helmT survives rosanna when run with moran

unfortunately i don't have one at hand

[spare nimbus]

i don't get that one either

maybe 4xcs 4xatk 4xdef new meta for me

[shell hazel]

maybe, I will need to re-think how to beat them though, tackling the indom vest is a loss sadly

[spare nimbus]

all black lines

[patent juniper]

I've sort of ignored pvp, but decided to invest in making a good team at least for rookie. afaik this is supposed to be the "meta" team, but I seem to lose to nearly every other team comp, even if theyre under my CP. am I doing something wrong?

I've got their skills up to recommened on nikke.gg and they've all in lvl 5 manufacture armor as well

[tropic summit]

what is he running now?

[tropic summit]

yes that's not how you run a scarlet against that matchup

you running a very oldschool meta scarlet setup that is meant to stall

in that matchup you want a glass cannon scarlet on double buff

scar trina rh centi jackal
or
scar blanc rh cent jackal

would make short work of that

in fact against that team you can become 1RL

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 gives all your RLs extra 1.75x burst gen

added with noir feeding you pallets upon pallets

scarlet and blanc have medium feed contribution aswell

rapi has high feed contribution past 1.5RL

[shell hazel]

the cindy comp is weak just high cp

[tropic summit]

so i guess you can clear t1 and t3 easily?

[shell hazel]

it's the cp that requires I move helm over, harder to get 2RL with bay on t1

t2 I may as well skip just annoying vesti indom

[tropic summit]

hmm

but their vesti isn't natural 2RL

last time the only reason you last was xmaiden was on seasonal buff

[shell hazel]

that was true lol

I can't remember what I ran against it. the cindy comp is easy to beat just high cp

[tropic summit]

challenge their vesti with this

oh but crown might push them into 2RL guess gonna run different flex

blanc B2 is too late for your xmaiden B3, vesti and link says bayonara

your p1 is indommed vs their xmaiden, duel to death with your team full alive

if you've quantum lvl 7 you probably have enough slots

t2 is overcommited so you can swap over xmaiden if needed to balance

just don't run SGs or feed of any kind against T2

tbh your p1 could even be sacc'ed

just need to sniperoni vestiTU

(or nuke link)

[shell hazel]

my other option was this btw

against scar comp (should feed 2RL right?)

against cindy comp

neither mine or their teams are 2RL on that one so it's OK being a bit slower

both noise + noah then I just win the exchange afterwards

i'm well in cp range with helm moved over as she has my highest cp

[tropic summit]

ye 8% is well fed by scarlet

[shell hazel]

I'd like to try mine first but if it fails I can run what you suggested

[tropic summit]

no go ahead and run yours, i'm just giving you some ideas

[shell hazel]

nah appreciate it 🙂

[tropic summit]

you know your opponent and units the best

the idea is on point either way, seems like a win

keep in mind your link is broken at 1RL tho

not sure how that affects overall feed intake

[shell hazel]

nah team 1 wins (even though jackal dies lol)

problem with t3 was siren did not die so she stunned the crap out of vesti

touche booba guy he's beaten me twice in a row as well now lmao

i'll upload the try before reset (sometimes my scar can clutch against the cindy version) and the one I just sent, though my t2 was just cope/feed lol

this was pre-reset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAXNmcEl-Y

this was post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXr1oWQZIfo

[swift mango]

Not extra coop reward for collab

[keen vapor]

Huh, weird

[shell hazel]

have a watch of those matches @tropic summit see if what you want to send may still work, if so I'll send it.
not gemming anyway and I've been 1st for most of this season so I can afford to let them have it for today

[swift mango]

Since Makima Collab rerun pretty much doesn't exist. Is it safe for me to farm my saved 100 pulls from EX stage?.

Or maybe they would rerun Makima at 2nd-3rd week of Current Collab like Nier to Stella Blade?

[quartz rover]

how is the cindy comp weak

looks swole to me

I see noah I pass

[shell hazel]

I'd beat that if I could run my jackal instead but can't due to cp :p

on equal invest/sync etc it's easy

[quartz rover]

just be faster?

[shell hazel]

I can barely reach min cp let alone change my team much 😛

[swift mango]

@worthy knoll

[quartz rover]

oh i'm just referring to it in general, do you just have to be faster than that team in particular

[tropic summit]

which cindy comp... there's natural 2RL, there's 2.5RL with noise B1 and there's slow cindy

[shell hazel]

he means the one I linked I think

[quartz rover]

this one

[tropic summit]

they're punished differently based on setup

[tropic summit]

it's biscuitless, you go 2RL with a B3 dps

2RL on 11%CS has p1 siren resistant, else just run a b1 in p1

personally i'd go

noah biscuit rh helmt centi, team is siren resistant and allows noah in p1

[quartz rover]

i'm just oling rumani to pad, not bad roll I think

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-red-hood-snow-white-gif-16505169346664341755

[shell hazel]

any reason not to run jackal instead of rumani rail?

for this one #pvp-arena message

[storm quail]

Noah need more CS than Noise or is it other way round

If I try to let Noise get stun

[worthy sorrel]

@dense kindle
robbed

[quartz rover]

I added a limit break and my game crashed

wonder why it's been crashing lately

[gritty ridge]

I used 2 rocks today to gain 2% atk

[swift mango]

Best I did today. 🫃

[worthy sorrel]

was looking forward to facing you in top16. expected you to win at least 1 of t4 or t5

next season! return stronger 💪

[swift mango]

Next Season it is.

[dense kindle]

baby vesti and rosanna couldn't do it, lets meet again next season

[worthy sorrel]

also now looking at it closer, nikan's units in those teams are pretty beefy. underestimating unfinished nero + bay i guess 😬

[quartz rover]

should I lock these? tac vesti

[worthy sorrel]

I also didn't notice this

[quartz rover]

hey thats my vesti

her r doll isnt maxxed either

[dense kindle]

Yea I just wanted to see what her team was like
She will be stronger next season

[quartz rover]

wonder if she'll be able to sack teams

[storm quail]

Does Noah want more CS or less CS than Noise?

[gritty ridge]

More cs

[storm quail]

👍🏼

[gritty ridge]

If you wanna run 2rl noah noise at least

[shell hazel]

this is of course assuming both are shooting at something that taunts siren for example

[shell hazel]

let me know when you're back as I haven't sent this one yet, I think prio the vesti team for safe kill if possible. the scar one will collapse to any 2RL noah/bay I can do

I don't want to run the t1 necessarily too much moving of quantums, and I'm not using jackal anywhere on these teams

if I run jackal in vesti team she links with helm and biscuit lmao

for the record as well my xmaiden is not that well built, she is SR-15 and 7/10/7 but her OL's have barely been changed, I just haven't had the rocks

[swift mango]

I don't even need 2rl to kill scarlet.

[gritty ridge]

P3 siren wont get taunted by noah, right?

Does anyone other than Emma have a teamwide taunt?

[glad meteor]

You mean at the start of the fight?

[shell hazel]

right p3 siren will just attack p1

I've noticed that if a taunter is at p2 then than can lead to your taunted RL hitting them then splashing siren = taunt siren lol

weird taunt chain I guess

[gritty ridge]

Nah just before burst

[glad meteor]

So at the start

[shell hazel]

sure but actually the scar team isn't the issue really anyway, just need a new way to kill the vesti comp

[glad meteor]

Noise noah if before burst

[gritty ridge]

On full charge isnt at the start

[shell hazel]

K you always have good ideas, what do you think beats the vesti one here? Rail was helping me but he ran off 😄
#pvp-arena message

[glad meteor]

Sure. Options are very limited

[gritty ridge]

Taunt on burst is only really useful with bisc

[glad meteor]

vesti pain

[shell hazel]

moran also I think and rumani has this? something like it anyway

[shell hazel]

yeah. I can't easily get in range of the cindy one anymore thanks to cp

Rail reckons this maybe but I dunno #pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

should just be Moran, Noah, and Nero

Rumani is taunt on hit after bursting

there's some off-meta ones too like Ludmilla and Diesel but who uses those

[gritty ridge]

Hippo have you considered extra slow cindy

[placid bloom]

and then there's Makima who you cannot get

[shell hazel]

sopa would use diesel, if he was still alive

[glad meteor]

Vesti just costs so much meta unit to win against. And even then the team is iffy

[gritty ridge]

Hehehe

[glad meteor]

Rosanna

[gritty ridge]

Dont hate on my extra slow cindy thats actually almost 3rl

[placid bloom]

Rosanna not bad tbh, unlink Jackal and maybe get Jackal indom unless the Biscuit heal so fat it actually puts Jackal back over Vesti

[shell hazel]

well natural 2RL scar ros might be able to beat it, but could also be iffy

[gritty ridge]

I dont like scar against vesti, its scary

[placid bloom]

against 3RL Blanc better 2RL Helm nuke the links, it's the lowest feed

[shell hazel]

I did wonder if helm main bursting would work

[placid bloom]

they will be pushed to 2.5RL at most

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon you hate my schrodingers cindy

[placid bloom]

I mean it's RNG, if they indom Jackal you win

your team kinda low damage to p2 though so even if Biscuit heal triggers maybe Vesti still healthy enough to not take indom

it's basically only 1 rocket splash from Noah + Biscuit after Ros unlinks

but Jackal would be taking Cindy + MG shots

[gritty ridge]

Could also get lucky and mihara not apply dot to vesti

[shell hazel]

I'd prefer not too much rng tbh

[gritty ridge]

I thought you were a true gambler like me

Yeah you could helm burst tho

Mods quick today

[shell hazel]

I have the cp for the mihara cindy team but will be pretty slow

basically hoping for misindom

[gritty ridge]

Its 3.5rl yeah

[shell hazel]

I don't mind trying it but it's my last try of today basically

before the reset

any other ideas/concepts we think might be worth a shot?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i get why you wouldnt wanna waste your last chance on gamba

Lemme pop back in the kitchen and see if I can find less rng

[shell hazel]

I would love for rail to come back to explain how his idea will work and why I'm avoiding jackal 😄

[gritty ridge]

Jackal is typically a death sentence, this may have a chance tho

Mihara would link tho

Unless you have the beefiest biscuit in history

[shell hazel]

i'll check it for curiosity but mihara should link

[gritty ridge]

You might notice a small preference against vesti teams

[shell hazel]

biscuit and helm link

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

oh ye that rumani can be jackal

[gritty ridge]

Hi rail

[shell hazel]

hi Rail

[tropic summit]

hi Rail

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

does it matter that jackal links with helm and biscuit?

[tropic summit]

nope it wont

go for it even, adds value to the team

[shell hazel]

does it matter that my xmaiden is not entirely greatly built?

[tropic summit]

although if your xmaiden is crappy, you wanna burst with helmt afterall

use a different flex defender in p1

[gritty ridge]

If mihara linked the 2nd team i sent wouldnt work at all

[tropic summit]

and let helmt snipe vesti

[shell hazel]

who do we have in mind?

[gritty ridge]

Where's xmaiden come in?

[drifting spear]

Don't mean to pop in and interrupt. First time in the pvp section. When you guys are saying linked do you just mean the nikkes who are bursting?

[gritty ridge]

Different team your fighting?

[gritty ridge]

Jackal has a passive where she links hp with your 2 highest attack nikke on the team

[drifting spear]

Oh hurr

[shell hazel]

talking about the earlier thing #pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, makes sense

[drifting spear]

I don't know why that wasn't the first thing I though of

[tropic summit]

can actually fit even a crown in there

[shell hazel]

I thought we didn't want crown due to feed?

[gritty ridge]

I was trying to connect 2 different conversations so I was confused

[tropic summit]

oh right good point

flex defender it is, can be jackal herself

[shell hazel]

yeah jackal could work

[tropic summit]

tasty, p5 can be literally anything

3%

[gritty ridge]

Rail did you see my cooks? I didnt burn the kitchen for once

[shell hazel]

hmm who to send, needs low feed

if I send centi it's massively overkill

I know it feeds a bit but what about ros to remove link and help snipe vesti?

very possibly winds up being what we had out of other discussions lmao

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

or swap biscuit/xmaiden position

so xmaiden can tank if helm dies at any point

[gritty ridge]

If helm dies you have no more biscuit charges

[shell hazel]

helm will link

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ik

That means bisc is gonna invul jackal

[shell hazel]

helm ros jackal link

[gritty ridge]

Yup

I hoped at least

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit good or bad idea?

we add some feed with ros but then we cut the link and increase potential for misindom jackal and/or snipe vesti

[tropic summit]

youve to nuke vesti then survive possibly indommed xmaiden

you want your link safe so dont put link in p1

unless its jackal under biscuit

helmt is just opening up your link to damage

[shell hazel]

if not then what else would we want here?#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

jackal biscuit helmt xmaiden flex

[umbral crown]

Si

[shell hazel]

what is a decent flex for this one?

[tropic summit]

ada would be lovely

or any passive buffer without feed

[gritty ridge]

I forgot about ada for helm teams

[shell hazel]

no ada at all lmao

in the absence of ada, who else to consider?

[gritty ridge]

If youre already 2rl, I think yulha could work

As long as im remembering her skill right

[shell hazel]

I can't really send my totally naked yulha against the whale teams bigboi 😄

[gritty ridge]

But naked yulha is fun

[hoary hill]

Would bay or moran work

[gritty ridge]

Moran no, bay wouldnt really help

[shell hazel]

moran feeds, which is the reason we're avoiding moran/crown

[hoary hill]

So she gives like fills burst balken faster for enemy team ?

[gritty ridge]

Any chance your maxwell isnt naked

[hoary hill]

Like cindy who takes on p1 2 hits instead of 1 or is it completly different

[gritty ridge]

The opponent is using jackal which means the more she gets hit the faster they burst

[shell hazel]

my centi has a lot of CS could just work to speed me up even more tbh

[hoary hill]

Thanks good to know

[shell hazel]

I should b3 before they even b1 here

[gritty ridge]

What abt x.anne

Protect bisc from vesti shots

[shell hazel]

I assumed some quantums and 10% CS on their team

[gritty ridge]

Well not protect, more like replace if need be

[shell hazel]

no lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i figured

[shell hazel]

yeah :p

well centi doesn't do much but she does speed me up a bit

xanne slows me back to natural 2RL and won't be bursting, she's not that built though either (no ol and no doll levels) just some skills

that makes her OK for the CA but not for this I think

[gritty ridge]

Id go with centi then

[nimble root]

Need some help countering this team please

[shell hazel]

maybe this for the scarlet, I don't really care that much if lapT dies here, she's just there to do some burst gen and suck up some damage 😛

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi

[gritty ridge]

I heard lapT is faster now

[shell hazel]

she is yeah

I can't think of a better option atm really except lapT but I need some gen for the scarlet team still, do you think this will work on the vesti one Rail then?#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

whats your highest cp B1 or B2 non feed

or even B3

[nimble root]

Who can I sub vestiTU out for if I don't have her built yet

Would any screen wipe b3 work?

[tropic summit]

actually solved

[shell hazel]

yeah SBS might be an idea, she's OK built

[tropic summit]

youve vesti also open actually

[shell hazel]

true!

[tropic summit]

adds early dmg for easier sniperino

[shell hazel]

actually might be a good idea yeah

[tropic summit]

post your box, makes it easier

[gritty ridge]

You use the vesti to kill the vesti

[shell hazel]

yeah extra pressure on link

[hoary hill]

Snipe vesti with vesti best solution

[tropic summit]

should be fine as long as biscuit doesn't die you need to survive 10s of xmaiden

she needs to pop 2nd stack on jackal

[gritty ridge]

So basically make sure x.maiden doesnt link

[tropic summit]

well you're on sustain although probably's fine

[shell hazel]

jackal helm vesti link

[tropic summit]

oh wait you said helmt is linked

you definitely want biscuit to give stacks to jackal then or ele weak gonna shred

your link is ele code weak and xmaiden is ele code

[shell hazel]

so the vesti idea no good?

[gritty ridge]

Is that emilia

At 360 sync

[tropic summit]

ok chances are that guy is not natural 2RL, let's try punish with siren first

scarlet trina siren helmt jackal

[nimble root]

Ok

[shell hazel]

do we think that works Rail or we need further refinement?

[tropic summit]

even assuming 5 lvl 7 quantum he's not natural 2RL

[tropic summit]

what's the final draft? show le CP

[shell hazel]

cp isn't an issue but will show

[tropic summit]

oh then looks interesting

[shell hazel]

the only one causing me a cp issue is the cindy comp with all the max cores lol

so naturally miranda got this

[tropic summit]

hmm this is 🍿 worthy

[nimble root]

Lost with this, might just be cp deficit 750k to 620k

[umbral belfry]

t2 looks like a loss

[tropic summit]

opponent isn't 2RL

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

vestiTU gonna get her butt sniped

[shell hazel]

send?

[tropic summit]

although he gets an angry xmaiden indommed

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

yes 18% deficit you're gapped

[gritty ridge]

What if x.maiden is linked and dies

[umbral belfry]

cutting it really close

[shell hazel]

xmaiden doesn't link in either team

his link is jackal/vesti/biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Oh I see

[tropic summit]

and he's water code link so jackal gonna start praying to all the gods

better hope biscuit gives her at least 2nd stack

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

le popcorno

[shell hazel]

well I can send it and see I don't really have an amazing better suggestion necessarily

and if it fails can come up with a new attempt tomorrow

[tropic summit]

my only concern for t1 is noah getting hit by some damage pre burst

she'll be rosanna 2nd target due to only 1 attacker present

[shell hazel]

she's on tempura and SR-15 hopefully fine?

[tropic summit]

hopefully

if anything... science 🍿

[nimble root]

Unfortunate, I was actually beating this guy earlier when he was 770k with a 630k team but since he swapped I'm all out of luck

[shell hazel]

oh my alt was this

but no backup b3 then

[tropic summit]

yeah CP gapping is an hard block unfortunately

[shell hazel]

ros could kill lapT

[tropic summit]

could work, not a fan of lappy B3 cuz i was dissapointed many times but could work

[gritty ridge]

You can always try one of the 2 I sent

[shell hazel]

oh yeah slow cindy etc haha, it's not impossible 😄

[gritty ridge]

Theres also the 2rl helm team

[shell hazel]

this one? #pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

You should be good tho, rail is a smart fella

[tropic summit]

arguably safer with same logic

no longer suffer from link ele weakness

also rosanna hits jackal and laplaceT

[shell hazel]

ah I lost lmao, on previous one

in weird unexpected ways. or maybe expected ones?

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Where's 🍿

[shell hazel]

uploading

biscuit didn't get to b2 she died

[tropic summit]

and then xmaiden steamrolled

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I figured would happen

[shell hazel]

I don't think it even mattered at that point lmao

[tropic summit]

wait she died before giving stack to p1?

[shell hazel]

noah died in t1 as well but I struggled through somehow

nah I think jackal got stack but I guess vesti and splash just killed her

[tropic summit]

splasheroni mackeroni

[shell hazel]

she's SR-15 as well 😮

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6LQsmJfhw

[gritty ridge]

You should send one of the 2 I sent tmr, rail should look at em first tho

[shell hazel]

have a watch of that first

lapT/Noah go byebye as you said on t1 as well would need to adjust that

[tropic summit]

well that's BS

gonna need a flex defender afterall

ridicolous vestiTU early dmg

and ye noah got sniped afterall

[shell hazel]

yeah, though that could be fixed with some moving around or adjustments I think

the vesti comp is the harder nut to crack

[gritty ridge]

Yknow, theres a really cool way to take advantage of strong vesti teams

[tropic summit]

well at least we know the whole package now, i'd go with this

[umbral belfry]

I tried to warn you

[shell hazel]

isn't noise very dead at p1 and my only b1?

[tropic summit]

oh right jackal got biscuit stack pre 2RL

mandatory B1 defender

[gritty ridge]

Noah

[worthy knoll]

Just fight Vesti with Blanc at safe position or with Biscuit. With your B3 someone who can deal continuous damage without reloading. Indom Vesti has a risk of either reloading or in charge the moment indom runs out on your side so you have a chance to kill them first

[tropic summit]

or is it time for your bayT debut

[shell hazel]

my experience when they ran bay was that it died horribly to my vesti lol

the blanc version is infinitely more annoying

[umbral crown]

Vesti kills bay

True damage op

[shell hazel]

I had indom rapi before it's OK but it's hard to chomp through everything

especially with biscuit and defenders in the team

[tropic summit]

this solves it nah?

T1 anti nuke
T2 stall on rumani, vestiTU is dead pre B3, they indom w/e

don't even need noah

[worthy knoll]

Just use Ada

[tropic summit]

noah powercrept let's go

[shell hazel]

if my biscuit dies pre-b2 then anchor certainly will

[tropic summit]

anchor is flex B2 use w/e

ade, mari those things

[shell hazel]

don't got 😛

[tropic summit]

xanne even for all it matters

just no feedin'

[shell hazel]

guess not bay as defender?

[tropic summit]

you already got bay in T1

[shell hazel]

damn lol

and not noah as don't want her wasting stacks?

[tropic summit]

yes no defender unit or rumani gets biscuit's s2 stolen

i mean even if anchor dies it actually won't matter

in fact you deny their burst gen

might make their rockets whif

[shell hazel]

these are my non-defender RL's

[tropic summit]

oh rapu can work

[shell hazel]

she'll probably die also but maybe she'll get some heals in

[tropic summit]

final drafteroni

[shell hazel]

could even p1 her in case it stuns them?

[tropic summit]

no keep rumani in p1

[shell hazel]

ok, I'll gem once for science rail

[tropic summit]

oh wow

💳

[shell hazel]

I have 76k gems should be fine

[tropic summit]

100gems invested for ENTERTAINMENTOOOOOOO

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

shut up former f2p, you're whel now

betrayer of us all

you've been poisoned

[shell hazel]

right let's check the cp

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

wait forgot my popcorn

🍿

the suspense.

[shell hazel]

quantum on jackal and trina

tempura on rumani for science

full send?

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

everything look OK? only doing this once today lol

[tropic summit]

tempura on SBS 🍰

[shell hazel]

done

[tropic summit]

leggo, yolo

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

if rosanna crits let's blame blood

[shell hazel]

bro that t1 screwed me lmao

sbs didn't die, but I didn't win like usual 😄

[placid breach]

ada good pvp unit?

[tropic summit]

waaaaaaaaa

[gritty ridge]

What abt t2

[shell hazel]

is xmaiden had burst I think it would have won

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

it clearly won

[shell hazel]

welll......

[crystal flicker]

What are the chances someone running Blanc Cindy met with my stall, and someone running SG Def met with my Jackaless Scarlet

[tropic summit]

10 out of 10

CA smells your fear and gives you inverse RNG

[placid breach]

dam okay i guess i should get a copy

[tropic summit]

ye she has usage, just harder to use her due to burst gen requirements

[shell hazel]

I am planning to get Ada btw, I was just waiting for both new units to be out

[tropic summit]

i already got her, i can see her having a spot

[shell hazel]

I can't really build her that well atm either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_c0xFgJ2Y

[tropic summit]

even more so once we've more burst gen units like helmt or clip RL

[tropic summit]

oh there it is 🍿

[placid breach]

mm i curious if she even hnas spot in my current 3 teams rn

[tropic summit]

perfect stack usage in t2

we need better B3 on T1

[shell hazel]

yeah so I know how to beat that one, I think I just need to adjust t1 a bit

yeah issue was sbs b3 then died lmao

[tropic summit]

unleash the fury

[shell hazel]

actually if xmaiden/sbs swapped would have worked

[tropic summit]

yeah or that

a sacc attacker and a defender B3

[shell hazel]

I'd just swap them but I can run vesti as secondary b3

[crystal flicker]

I was wondering if P5 Centi + SR15 will survive the first SG salvo

[tropic summit]

if anything we've a relatively stable anti vestiTU on non 2RL

[shell hazel]

I won't attack again today Rail as much as it's tempting to do so, my opponent will simply hit back

and they have 2 free tries, I'll just burn them out and go after reset

[tropic summit]

p1 defender, flex p2, snipe/nuke link killer b3 (helmt/xmaiden), biscuit, flex burst gen

[shell hazel]

yeah rapu was good here she didn't even die which I was pleasantly surprised about

[placid breach]

oki i got her XD tho use more pull than i like x.x

[tropic summit]

then again hippo i made you play on hard mode, can just noah it

[shell hazel]

for t1?

[tropic summit]

aye

[shell hazel]

funny thing is noah instead of bay would have just won that lmao

I think as SBS would have been immune for long enough

[tropic summit]

definitely 3 seconds enough to wipe

[shell hazel]

mind you I don't mind using bay for scarlet I've been doing it for a while

[tropic summit]

also bay shared dmg which finished her off

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

if she didn't share dmg, like noah, you'd have sbs alive

[shell hazel]

being realistic chances are even if I won they'd just take it back within some hours and I'm not spamming gems for it

[tropic summit]

nothing left alive was hitting p3

but link share did

[shell hazel]

so I'll leave that here for now and set my teams ready for tomorrow 🙂

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine thanks hippo

[umbral crown]

as any normal people would do

[tropic summit]

tomorrow you can win this

[umbral crown]

But waitin till reset? Could not be me

[tropic summit]

true pvper

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

yeah, tbh I've had spa 1 for most of this season anyway

[tropic summit]

le wild rosy hitting back 20 mins after being hit

[shell hazel]

even giving up a day they won't take it back that easily

[umbral crown]

Riggt after

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[umbral crown]

I do not wait

[tropic summit]

the next challenge will be 2RL indom vestiTU

although ironically i think that team may just work

rumani was essentially invulnerable for over 8s

indom is 10s long and vesti needs to reload

[limber patrol]

how to make a SBS/Blanc team without Jackal or Helm?

[tropic summit]

you don't because it will be too slow

[shell hazel]

they may not have the pieces to do it considering their helm etc on the other team

[limber patrol]

I upgraded Blanc for nothing then

[tropic summit]

they will do a 2RL indom vestiTU at some point, i can bet on it

[shell hazel]

we'll see

[tropic summit]

it's hard to pass on an essentially high win ratio like that one on def

probably after you beat them imo

[limber patrol]

if I use Helm, I lose my Nero team.
If I use Jackal, I lose my Scarlet team.

[upper harbor]

I think I need another cook for def SPA if anyone is keen to try? I have my own team and 2 teams from @keen vapor 's cooks so I can try to change the teams up daily, but the ladder seems to first try them now. Maybe someone has a different team build approach?

[limber patrol]

confirmation required

[placid breach]

do my team look fine still? i used same in attack too but change blanc to trina. Though i though my scarlet seem to be my 95% win while other two loses ;-;

[tropic summit]

you can run scarlet jackaless and spare jackal for an indom team