pvp-arena

[round torrent]

So 50% deficit is insta dead

[tropic summit]

50% deficit you hit for 1 dmg

[round torrent]

💀

[high stream]

im just waiting for anni at this point

[round torrent]

Im done with pvp

[high stream]

Im hoping for a massive push to my account then

i hope we get another diary, like drake

i wanna build dolls and optimal skill investments on all my pvp units

[round torrent]

Im cant go past top 50 in sp, I can if I try to get top 40 maybe

But it's not worth it

[tropic summit]

well pvp isn't mandatory in this game, sure it's a nice source of gems, but you can play the game even without

there's nothing wrong with taking it casually and play at your own pace

[high stream]

i mean .. my campaign team is fully built .. all i can do there now is perfect OL lines and keep leveling synchro

[round torrent]

Im top 15 in normal arena tho, but that one is useless 💔

[high stream]

so .. i either shift to my tower teams now .. or pvp teams.

[round torrent]

Id rather focus on solo raid teams

[high stream]

My Elysion and Pilgrim tower is insane .. so i'd have to invest into tetra and missilies .. but even there, im fruther ahead than the biggest whale in my bracket

[round torrent]

Focus on building your solo raid roaster

[high stream]

ima roast these solo raids

[round torrent]

✌️

Next solo raid will be ele weak

[high stream]

arent they .. all ele weak

[round torrent]

Build yo cindy, xmaidn, sanis and ein

Electric

[high stream]

ah, lol

[round torrent]

Oh lemme get you a strat

3 words: Isabelle arcana team

You gotta add either trina and og scarlet + liter or you use cindy there with rouge and ade/mari

[high stream]

I have them all, but not built well .. My Cinderella is built very well

[round torrent]

Watch out for the teams of the top 10 guys for this sr

I dont think jill and ada will shake the teams much

Jill is a worse buffer than sanis and does a little but more dmg on neutral

Jill looking mid too

[keen vapor]

Jill is the DPS and Summer anis is busy buffing Cindy

[keen vapor]

Top teams (if SU cooked well) may be
Cindy Summer Anis team
And Jill Ein Ada team

[round torrent]

Xmaidn buff 10x better

And does more dmg too, like a big difference

Jill ein ada could work

But the teams should be, cindy team, Isabelle arcana team, crown + rapi team, shotgun team and a 5th team like k + sanis / kr the new ada and jill

[keen vapor]

Maiden also on Cindy team

[round torrent]

Shes a must

[keen vapor]

Cindy/Rouge/Summer Anis/B2/Maiden
Rapi/Crown/Ein/Jill/Ada
Isabel/Arcana/Liter?
Siren/Trina/Scarlet
SG team with Maid Privaty

Could add Asuka Wille and Ludmilla to Scar team

Just to get something out

Actually not bad idea to hyper buff Scarlet that way

Another option is to combine Cindy and Scarlet team ig
1 attack and reload speed less but more HP buffing for Cindy

[glad glade]

A good cindy, Sanis, and Ein is enough for 3% right?

[keen vapor]

A good Scarlet over a good Summer Anis

But pretty much my only electric unit with 4 elemental is Cindy

[glad glade]

Awesome, looks like another one to the collection. Thnx!

[round torrent]

Rapi would dell more dmg than ada 😭 honestly her as a b3 with mmast and crown will do more I think

[keen vapor]

Oh I forgot the interaction between Ada skill 1 and Rapi burst "1"

[round torrent]

What interaction

[keen vapor]

She gets Ada's attack buff

[round torrent]

Oh yeah

60% atk of caster every burst

We gotta wait and see the boss and the top players teams 1st

[keen vapor]

Also don't focus so much on the raw damage they deal, Ada won't be even bursting on the team I put as example, she's buffing Jill and Ein as much as she can

[round torrent]

Ik

I bet jill will be mid tho, ein will out dmg her, probably

Perchance

[spiral onyx]

[tropic summit]

are you 2.5RL on the nero/moran team?

generally they should survive with rapunzel, nero and moran

[spiral onyx]

[spiral onyx]

Note the speed of both teams

Laplace+'s burst gen buff makes her equivalent to a clip RL

Letting me build two 1.6RL teams

[umbral belfry]

i love seasonal buffs

[vapid lake]

So laplace burst gen buff is true?

[fast jetty]

how do i deal with this in SP? other 2 teams are siren scar and vesti blanc

[gritty ridge]

Keripo I have a revolutionary pvp team

[umbral crown]

Mica back to bissnezz

[spiral onyx]

2RL, 2RL. But with charge speed it's even faster

Noah, Helm, Centi on other teams

[umbral crown]

Yeah

This time i was using mast in scar team but againsr sg rosanna loses

[glad meteor]

Moran didn’t burst in time

[glad meteor]

Unlinked scar problem is sg ros and vesti + emi/lap+, they usually enough to kill

[glad meteor]

It’s permanent

[coarse lake]

2rl scar without a stun or snipe is kinda eh, too many 2rl noahs running around

[umbral crown]

Even linked in some cases

[umbral belfry]

if you're lying to me i'm gonna doom your gacha luck

[umbral crown]

He got scar already, nothin can not stop K

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

you punish the guy with low core/lb units

[umbral belfry]

yes

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

I guess that pfp makes sense

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

They changed a mechanic and it was mentioned in optimisation. Unlike the usual bugs we find

[umbral belfry]

laplace stocks up i waited for this day

[glad meteor]

Laplace and vesti was affected

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

A list of them were

You can check dev notes

[umbral belfry]

i'll have to check it out later

[glad meteor]

cindy is single target

Only affects laplace vesti and maybe a2? I don’t have her so it doesnt matter

[glad meteor]

But this means her gen should be fixed now. Before if she hit cover she lost gen

[vapid lake]

? Vesti also got increased burst gen?

[coarse lake]

assuming cover is even intact at that point, sure

[glad meteor]

I forgot. I do have A2

But she’s not getting play

Only missing csm

[indigo path]

making us proud

[drifting hill]

is there a Single Best PVP team comp for rookie arena (like new vesti something ? ) and teams for special arena ?

[gritty ridge]

No

Every single team in the game can be beaten

[mint root]

Wtf happened lol so confused. My damage not even showing for a minute straight and he caught up and won? My units are even SSS tier?

[gritty ridge]

Looks like helm burst was taunted

[ocean oyster]

you gotta Switch noah and biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Helm is a bad pick against that team anyway

[mint root]

Oh I see. Idk it worked like that with the taunt

What units are best for a team?

[gritty ridge]

Also like the other guy said, your noah was useless

[mint root]

Noah is useless because her burst will.never go off?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[mint root]

Ooooh okay

So only 1 burst 1,2,3 and rest are 3?

[gritty ridge]

Not exactly

You need at least 1 of each type, other 2 units dont matter for burst type

[mint root]

Oh but I have 1 of each here

Why is there a conflict

[gritty ridge]

Yes, but because your noah is further right than your biscuit she will not burst

[mint root]

Oooh positioning

[gritty ridge]

Can you show your roster?

[mint root]

Sure

Sorry if im missing good pvp units, Im f2p

Oops it won't let me send images, is there a limit

[gritty ridge]

10 images max

[mint root]

Ok

[gritty ridge]

Ohhh youre a returner it looks like

[mint root]

Well I've been consistent since i started playing im just super casual hence why my unit levels are low haha

[gritty ridge]

Oh I see

[mint root]

I've only been playing for a year thou

[gritty ridge]

Hmmm, pvp may be a lost cause tbh

[mint root]

Yeah i just do it for fun

But I want a decent team that's all.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i can make you one, just dont expect insane results lol

[mint root]

Thats fine I just want to understand the mechanics better when team forming for pvp

[gritty ridge]

Ill walk you through some

So first off, cp is king. You do not want to do hits with more than I believe 18% deficit

Unlike campaign deficit in pvp is brutal and will drop you off a cliff

[mint root]

Oh I see

[gritty ridge]

There are certain ways to hit a little into deficit, but its always iffy. Biscuit being the main way

[mint root]

Oh so I shouldn't just synchronize all units? Pvp better to keep at certain levels?

[gritty ridge]

You want as high a level as possible

[mint root]

I see, is cp combat points?

[gritty ridge]

Yes, combat points, combat power, team power, whatever you wanna call it

[mint root]

Oh ok

[gritty ridge]

Your core pvp utilities on any account are gonna be jackal, biscuit, blanc, noah, noise, trina, helm, and siren.

[mint root]

Oh true

[gritty ridge]

Your main dps are gonna be scarlet, sbs, vesti, cindy, and redhood or helm can be dps depending on what you have

[mint root]

Oh I see

Vesti is rated pretty highly. Maybe it because her burst 3 in pvp is insane

[gritty ridge]

Her burst and her skill 2 are very strong in pvp yes

[mint root]

Oh ok I'll try and use for burst 3

[gritty ridge]

I forgot to mention blanc earlier

Shes also a core utility

If youre using vesti, theres 2 main archetypes you can use with her. Indom which is blanc, or invul which is noah.

[mint root]

Oh okay

What if I wanted to make a Noah team

[gritty ridge]

Noah noise is a little easier to make so the standard setup would be noise, noah, vesti, HelmT, and a battery of your choice(centi, rumani, drake, x.maiden, etc)

[mint root]

Oh cool I'll go with noise rumani and helm

What about a summer anis team? She's pretty op

[gritty ridge]

You can also run noah, vesti, redhood, bisvuit, helmT if you have chargespeed on vesti

[mint root]

Oh I see the cube?

[gritty ridge]

The overload line

You need i believe 11%

(I could be wrong on the number, take it with salt)

[mint root]

I don't have it but when I get it I'll keep it in mind

[gritty ridge]

Summer anis has a few options, the two main being moran biscuit and indom

[mint root]

Oh I definitely want the Moran team. She's such a good tank

[gritty ridge]

Moran is good, but that team is bad against alot of archetypes, theres no protection from teamwide nukes like scarlet or cindy

[mint root]

Yeah Cinderella is a problem for me a lot

[gritty ridge]

Cinderella can be beat with quite a few options, its all a matter of team speed

[mint root]

Oh okay. I think fast burst gen is the way to go

[gritty ridge]

For most cases yes

Keep in mind pvp burst gen is different than pve

[mint root]

Yeah that's true

Thinking of doing a double anis team and using her default and summer on a single team

[gritty ridge]

You can do that if you like, normal anis is very good for burst gen

[mint root]

Why not siren, double anis redhood and drake?

Or is that bad?

[gritty ridge]

That team has no protection which is a problem

[mint root]

Oh I see

Oh I also forgot jackel teams, maybe i go for that with this one? Something fast

[gritty ridge]

This could work for you

This would require jackal to have more health than both helm and summer anis though

[mint root]

Oh nice, can I sub out helm here or no?

[gritty ridge]

You can, but it would slow you down

[mint root]

I see

But i went back to the first team mentioned and you also had helm. Are there any teams that i could use another unit to make more teams for special arena?

[gritty ridge]

Ohh special arena

[mint root]

Sorry if I'm asking a lot. I just want to understand how people make multiple teams

[gritty ridge]

You can replace helm with trina and you would still be 2rl

[mint root]

Oh darn I don't have trina

[gritty ridge]

Centi or rumani would work, it just relies on feed which should be fine

[mint root]

Oh I see

Appreciate the advice 🙂

Can I add you or is your friend list full?

[gritty ridge]

In game?

[mint root]

Yea

[gritty ridge]

Which server are you in?

[mint root]

Global

[gritty ridge]

Ah im in NA

[mint root]

Ooh lol

[gritty ridge]

Its not cross server region

[mint root]

Yeah figured that much

[ocean oyster]

How much more cs does noa need than noise to dodge siren stun? Or is it irrelevant

[gritty ridge]

Wdym

If noise is in p1 and has less cs than noah youre safe if you're 2rl

If noah is in p1 the whole team needs 12% or equivalent iirc

[mint root]

What does rl mean? Sorry to interrupt

[gritty ridge]

Rocket launcher. Pvp speed is measured in rocket launcher shots

[mint root]

Oh wow didn't know that ty

[ocean oyster]

Yeah I mean when Im Not 2rl

[gritty ridge]

If youre not 2rl you dont dodge siren

[ocean oyster]

Even if my noise, noah and battery have 14%+ cs? Without the other two being rl?

I thought there was a way

[gritty ridge]

Yes. You need 2rl.

[ocean oyster]

alright Thanks

My noah has exactly 0.01 cs% more than my noise, was wondering if the numbers are rounded up or down and I would need at least like 0.10% more or something

[keen vapor]

You need like 4% more than Noise

Also, explanation for rounding is pinned

[ocean oyster]

oh god so i gotta get noah to Like 18% .. well thanks though

[swift mango]

Looks like deficit loss to me.

[keen vapor]

So Noise has less than 15%

[swift mango]

If same charge speed tier just need to put Noah p3-4-5, Noise p1-2 and Noise would hold the taunt

[ocean oyster]

ah lemme check real quick

[umbral belfry]

idk about needing 4% more

so as long as one is higher than the other it's good

even adding cs cube(1-2%) depending on level fixes

[ocean oyster]

noise has 15.56% and noah 15.57% lol

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

I see none of you read pinned messages@ocean oyster @umbral belfry

That's not your CS

That's fake CS

[umbral belfry]

read this

[formal quiver]

i agree hime never reads

[umbral belfry]

2d in maincord

[keen vapor]

Educate yourself

[umbral belfry]

are they asking how to avoid siren taunt via taunt priority (noise and noah) or to have noah avoid it altogether?

bc the cs breakpoints aren't new to me

[keen vapor]

Taunt priority

[umbral belfry]

then noah would have to have higher cs of any amount vs Noise. that way Noise takes the siren stun (assuming not 2rl comp with noah in p1)

[keen vapor]

Noah needs to be on a higher tier than noise

I don't want to test only one tier but two tiers up is safe

[umbral belfry]

not a higher tier

just higher overall

[keen vapor]

If Malogro hasn't changed def I'll test one tier

[umbral belfry]

it can be a higher tier, but not required

if they're noah is 0.1 higher than noise they should be fine already. but if they wanted to be extra safe then adding cs cube onto noah works too

which is fine bc you want decent amount of cs on noah anyway

[keen vapor]

Easiest way to prove me wrong is for her to find a Siren in rookie

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Still will be better to get actual CS value for both of her

[umbral belfry]

mhm

would be nice to have 18 cs noah

[ocean oyster]

i know about the breakpoints too, but I was assuming the siren stun would work differently

[keen vapor]

Let's test

[ocean oyster]

well right now there is noone in my bracket with a siren def team. but she is the only nikke I struggle against

[keen vapor]

In SP I suppose

[ocean oyster]

yeah I'm getting attacked by literally one guy everyday and he changes his teams constantly. I always just skip the siren team

I know I'm safe with 2rl but i wanted to just min max and make a slower team work too

[keen vapor]

Malogro didn't, I'll test in a minute

[ocean oyster]

I probably just try to get my noah to 18%

[keen vapor]

Noise CS: 4%
Noah CS: 7%

[keen vapor]

Noah stun

Only if I use Adjutant to reach 9 (or you know, 8% the next tier) is Noise the one that gets stun

2 tiers above @umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

whatcha test?

oh the noah noise stun?

I'm gonna assume noah wasn't in p1 and/or siren wasn't in p1/p2?

if so, good to know

[keen vapor]

Noah is P1, Noise P5, Siren P2

Already tested previously with Adjutant and Noise gets stun in that case

[umbral belfry]

yeah sounds right then

thankfully there's nothing really to lose getting noah 18 cs

[ocean oyster]

man 2 tiers is rough, but thanks for testing

[umbral belfry]

yanno besides rocks

[ocean oyster]

rip anni rocks savings

[umbral belfry]

but may rock rng be kind to you

[keen vapor]

Best chance is likely getting Noah to 18% then lower Noise below 15%

[ocean oyster]

thankyou

[upbeat gorge]

Hello, everyone. I'd like to ask for some advice...

[keen vapor]

Where Vesti

And Trina

And super strong Laplace

[upbeat gorge]

Oh yeah, I literally got Trina today. Not enough stuff to lvl up her skills much yet, though

[keen vapor]

You'll need her for raid as well

Open boxes

[upbeat gorge]

most boxes are open already q_q

[keen vapor]

Ded

[upbeat gorge]

...yeah, that's why only asked for Rapunzel. Since she's 10-10-10 already

[keen vapor]

Then I don't make myself illusions about Vesti either

[upbeat gorge]

u mean new Vesti?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[upbeat gorge]

yeah, I don't have her either

[keen vapor]

How built is your Scarlet

[upbeat gorge]

pretty mid, got her not too long ago. Let me show you

[keen vapor]

Dam

[keen vapor]

Not mid enough for raid that's for.... Huh

That's totally built

[keen vapor]

Go to shooting range and tell me if Rapunzel has jackal link if replacing RH on that team

[upbeat gorge]

Got it

[keen vapor]

Blanc/Centi with cores could never

[upbeat gorge]

yeh she does

[keen vapor]

Ok
Rapunzel/Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/Jackal

[upbeat gorge]

Alright then, thanks a lot

[keen vapor]

So, about your Laplace and Emilia....

[upbeat gorge]

I got Emilia

[keen vapor]

how people have so many cored units but Laplace

[swift mango]

synch 552, but got her not too long ago.

[upbeat gorge]

Used to have her instead of Helm on that team

[keen vapor]

That I can buy it but not the lack of Laplace

[swift mango]

treasure laplace is expensive investment for casual.

[keen vapor]

Built Trina next, will be cheaper than Jill/Ada

[upbeat gorge]

yeah, those were my last Pilgrims. Scarlet was like, half a year ago, I think

[upbeat gorge]

Alright then

[swift mango]

I guess I would get rapunzel at synch 501 then.

[keen vapor]

Does your Noah have 4% more CS than your Noise?

[upbeat gorge]

oh I do have her. Just had other priorities. I pretty much free to play so I dont have much resources

[upbeat gorge]

No idea, let me see...

[keen vapor]

I'm F2P too gonna reset tons of units soon

[upbeat gorge]

yep

They both have just an extra 4.92% CS

[keen vapor]

Both have that single CS?

[upbeat gorge]

yeah

[keen vapor]

I think your Noah is getting stunned sir

[upbeat gorge]

That team does well on both SP and Rookie, so I didn't invest much on them, but I could def got better CS for her

[keen vapor]

You could get diamond 2 sir you only need to believe on the doro that believes on you

[upbeat gorge]

I'm already at top 10, recently 2 guys started to focus on me and one every now and then brings me down, so I wanted to be able to compete

[keen vapor]

Last team will need fixing

[upbeat gorge]

yeh

[icy estuary]

When you try your best but you don't succeed 🎶

[upbeat gorge]

not too sure about Helm on that first team... but it works, it seems

[upbeat gorge]

Yeah, I got this guy....

but he recently managed to defeat me. He's still struggling to be consistent though

[icy estuary]

Bro is on a warpath, too bad he keeps getting ass blasted

[keen vapor]

@upbeat gorge Have Moran overloaded?

[upbeat gorge]

...so yeah, thats why I came here so he keeps stuck at top 7-10 huehue

[upbeat gorge]

Moran yes, overloaded not yet

[keen vapor]

Dam

[upbeat gorge]

yeh

[keen vapor]

@upbeat gorge What's the highest power unit you have left?

[upbeat gorge]

dunno, let me see

Noir, I suppose

[keen vapor]

Not her

Scarlet Alter

[upbeat gorge]

oh yeah

[keen vapor]

There, new def

[upbeat gorge]

Shes my very best nikke actually. Got lucky with the OL stats last month

[gritty ridge]

Doro died before I burst

[keen vapor]

Anchor

[upbeat gorge]

OH! that reminds me

What skills and lvls should I focus on my Trina?

[keen vapor]

Skill 2

[upbeat gorge]

Oke

[keen vapor]

Level 7

[gritty ridge]

Shes just there for cp pad

[keen vapor]

Burst for raid
4 is fine, 7 better

[upbeat gorge]

gotcha

Anyway, thanks so much for all the help @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

You're welcome

[gritty ridge]

Echo can I take a small loan of 100 rocks

[keen vapor]

No that's my hoard for anni

[gritty ridge]

Pls ill pay back

[keen vapor]

What are you gonna roll

[gritty ridge]

Scar values

Look at this mess

[north brook]

Thats not even bad, my scar has like 7 lines

[keen vapor]

No

Mine is like that

[gritty ridge]

5% atk please

[keen vapor]

No

[gritty ridge]

It hurst me

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Im at 10/12 of my ideal lines

I just need better values on most

[keen vapor]

Imagine being able to 12 line an unit

[gritty ridge]

Im not gonna 12 line her

[north brook]

Like my scar just 2 atk 2 ele 1 ammo and its still mostly ok

Cp really bad tho

[swift mango]

This is a normal attack build. Look how they butcher SMG in this Minigame too.

On another note, I fcing wasted 15 rocks today for absolutely nothing.

[leaden canyon]

Nvm it won

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

should be used to it by now

[wise horizon]

need help with this

[tropic summit]

t1 skip
t2 scar trina rh laplaceT jackal (should be 1RL, video attached, quantum on batteries)
t3 noah bisc helmt rosanna emilia
or
any generic 2RL or 3RL DPS noah team
(noah bis vestiTU emilia flex)
(noah bis SBS RH emilia)
...

[wise horizon]

quantum is on laplaceT/Jackal/Trina

[tropic summit]

yes, trina laplacet and jackal are batteries

scarlet can run temperance/resil, same as rh

[river dune]

Is this doable for me?

[wise horizon]

Thanks!

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 are lost, T2 is likely win

post your box and i can help you out if you've the tools

[river dune]

Ok then

@tropic summit these are all that I have

[radiant coral]

what are the reqs for Nero + Moran team

[tropic summit]

you can punish T1 for lacking noah/bay, while T3 you can abuse cindy p1 to boost you into 1RL scar-jack

T1 noah bis cindy helmt rumani
T2 skip
T3 scar trina rh laplaceT jackal

(you're on the left)

T3 quantum on trina, laplaceT, jackal

[tropic summit]

max invest on nero and moran, you need to stack DR as much as possible (max skills, max doll, ideally max affection and some cores, temperance lvl 7)

also one of the few units that can benefit from def OLs, especially Moran

[radiant coral]

aside from helm, what are the last two supporting units?

[tropic summit]

there are manly 2 variants, then some other nicher spin offs

nero moran helmt rapunzel laplaceT
nero moran helmt mana laplaceT

[radiant coral]

what if I don't have rapunzel or laplaceT 💀

[tropic summit]

keep in mind in both cases you should be 2.5RL to at least enable moran to cast B1 on enemy B3

[tropic summit]

you can run those nicher spin offs

will be less effective overall

might aswell just run other stall variants with bayT and noise

[radiant coral]

it's a newer account so I am lacking a lot of treasured items

do I need healers in general or no?

[tropic summit]

what synchro are you and what's your box like, is your campaign and kraken team done?

[radiant coral]

227

[tropic summit]

because committing to nero/moran is something you can afford only later on

[tropic summit]

at that synchro i wouldn't go nero/moran

post your box so i've a full view of what you could consider

[tropic summit]

hmm pretty good

you've all key B3s, good batteries and good utilities

[radiant coral]

only missing rumani

[tropic summit]

focus on increasing noise and centi CP, get laplace treasured, as due to recent buff she's essentially clip RL burst gen tier

[radiant coral]

she had a buff?

[tropic summit]

ye she had a good buff on burst gen due to cover fixes

[radiant coral]

oh ok

I guess the challenge now is to get copies of her

[tropic summit]

she's essentially noah tier

[radiant coral]

oh that's cool

[tropic summit]

the cherry on top is that she's an iron code unit and can work offburst

focus on getting your batteries and laplaceT imo before attempting nero, she can wait

nero moran is for the main part a CA team over SParena team

[radiant coral]

I am in CA

which is why I want that team built cuz I heard it's good

I just need to understand how it works, but if I can't build it rn it's all good

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty

[river dune]

Does any of these abilities will help Laplace?

[tropic summit]

you could run this biscuit locked stall team

the mana variation although is weak to rosanna, so if it nerfs any other of your other CA teams don't

[tropic summit]

s1 and s2 are good, s3 as you won't generally use her as main B3 can remain lower invest

[radiant coral]

The only thing about that team is removing biscuit from my vesti blanc team

[river dune]

Ok ty

[radiant coral]

But I think I can come up with something else for that team

[tropic summit]

ye you can remove biscuit then and place a flex B2

you only need 12% burst gen to hit 3RL, which allows you to hit 2.5RL via CS%

any flex that can fit that will enable that team at least

[radiant coral]

I mean for Vesti and Blanc team. I can try and fit biscuit in the nero team

[keen chasm]

Any recommendations?

[tropic summit]

post your box without units selected and ordered by strength

[keen chasm]

If I have to invest into some nikke i will do it too

[glad meteor]

Kinda crazy

[tropic summit]

it's really always accidents with arena

[glad meteor]

Yeah, late fixes

Noah got the same treatment. She had half the gen before

Then they fixed* dual weapons

[radiant coral]

@tropic summit This is what I came up with so far. No cubes added in yet except for trina

[tropic summit]

looks like you can upgrade to these 3

**jackal siren scarl trina xmaiden **

• adds anti taunt pressure, as enemy noah would be taunted if siren is in p1 or p2, while retaining threat

**noah biscuit helmt draket noise **

• adds 2RL attacker pressure with helmT snipe, while retaining 2RL anti nuke, can stall, adding sustain and SG pressure on p5

**blanc emi rh biscuit laplaceT **

• has high splash pressure, can be indommed, has backup B3 if they run rosanna, weak to scarlet 2RL although

[tropic summit]

hmm looks ok-ish, cindy 3RL has low win ratio, non natural 2RL indom has lower chances to work as intended, 3RL over 2.5RL nero moran has several more counters, SG without only clip SGs is far less effective, although retains SG pressure

it's safe to assume you won't do too well in CA, but they're not completely bad teams at least

it's an invest issue you facing here, just keep improving and you'll get there

[keen chasm]

Okay thanks fr and for the cube any recommendations?

[radiant coral]

alright, so I'll just make cindy team faster and indom team slower

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
siren temperance
scarlet resil
trina quantum
xmaiden quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
helmt resil/temperance
drakeT resil/bastion
noise vigor

blanc vigor
emi temperance
RH resil/bastion/temperance
biscuit vigor
laplaceT resil/bastion

(they're in order of priority, prefer first over second or latter)

[keen chasm]

Okay thanks but I just noticed that’s u put biscuit twice in the team 2 and 3

[tropic summit]

oh ye my bad T2 biscuit is bay

the logic here is that if noah gets stunned or killed pre burst, you've a backup anti nuke

[keen chasm]

Okay perfect

[rich ledge]

Oh wow the whale 60 levels above me is blocked

[swift mango]

How u?

[river dune]

That team didn't work I lost that one

[swift mango]

You should have quote the team. His team looks fine. Screenshot your match up and post here. I guess you simply lost because using uninvested units then got CP gapped.

Especially their team 3.

always check for CP deficit, it's just like you check cp deficit for Campaign

[river dune]

Unfortunately my server is full of whales and I am f2p

[swift mango]

do you have makima?

[river dune]

No unfortunately I didn't pull for her

[crisp cradle]

are these the go to teams

[swift mango]

You are just level bricked if you started during Makima event and still 541 synch I'm afraid.

[river dune]

I'm a Day 1 player though

[swift mango]

yeahz day one players are around 621 now...

here is a month one or 2 player.

You might know LD, he yapped lots on this discord

[river dune]

Yeah

I'm very casual and lazy though

[crisp cradle]

I dont mean to interrupt yalls conversation but can I ask some advice on team comps

[swift mango]

Anyway, we could check CP, yours/theirs > 0.846 and you are good. No deficit in stats.

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1422123351471685662/image.png?ex=68db8714&is=68da3594&hm=d662468af021e87bb450de10eb1e15d42156e190abe3852154cdc835b525187c&

Which of these 2 teams you lost? 1st or 3rd or both?

[river dune]

All of them unfortunately here I will go and screenshot you

[swift mango]

By these images, Soda and Emma are top 10 CP you have?

[river dune]

Yes

[river dune]

Here's are results

Here's that guy's team

It seems like the team 3 suffers because Scarlet dies very soon

[swift mango]

it is

[river dune]

How can I prevent that?

[swift mango]

who is linked in team 3, lap or rh or scar?

[river dune]

Is it Vesti who's killing them?

[swift mango]

check by going into shooting range with same team. See who got linked skill of jackal.

[river dune]

Linked skill?

[swift mango]

Jackal skill 2.

Just pause at start and check your units to find ones with the "jackal ..." skill, aside from jackal ofc

[swift mango]

yes, Vesti killed scar by normal attack. So check if Scarlet even linked with jackal.

[swift mango]

if you are that lazy to check about arena basic like Jackal link or defict, at least send you blabla link with nikke viewable by everyone

[swift mango]

Darn, since you are too lazy to response.

Use team 1 to hit their team 3.

Use scar team, Jackal+Scarlet+Trina+Siren+LapT to hit their Cindy...

later

[river dune]

Sorry took too long I was finishing up dailies but yeah it doesn't look like her ability was shared by Scarlet

[river dune]

Thanks

It worked thanks

[river dune]

Oh wow so the trick to getting high scores for this is but stock, syringe and those one's? I mean I did 397k once but after that I couldn't repeat the same so I fell off in power

[swift mango]

Well, the main trick is SG+Grenade to CC the heck out of them. Some buff help but full Grenade could reach 780k

[river dune]

I always use grenades and flamethrowers AOE

What are the traits I should look out for?

[swift mango]

Cool down reduction. Knock back for SG, debuff duration for Lazer and Grenade. Field for Launcher.

1 Lazer and 1 SG helps. More isn't needed

[river dune]

Does the enhancement of the monsters help?or gain gold for killing monsters trait?

[swift mango]

yeah, get then too as top priority, lower than All dmg or All countdown reduction.

[river dune]

I see ok

[swift mango]

gain gold and exp not needed.

The coin give more than those traits

exp maxed at 30 anyway

[river dune]

Alright I will try it this time

The syringe is a bit weird though as it weakens you, what's the highest lvl you have been able to go?

[swift mango]

47. I have seen peeps with wave 72+ using all grenade

[river dune]

Once I went to 43 but my score was absolutely pathetic

My best score of 397k was at 39th floor was still first in my Union with that

But since I couldn't score higher got to 2nd place last night

[spiral onyx]

Ok so Laplace+'s burst gen increasing is actually pretty big. She's effectively clip RL now

[shell hazel]

I can't think of a better use for her still than 2RL scar with lapT instead of a clip RL

[spiral onyx]

She gives more flexibility to existing teams

[shell hazel]

stall comp is like same speed still

as helm gates it

[spiral onyx]

For example, if you previously ran something like normal RL x2 you can now run something like Laplace+ + some AR/MG/SMG or something that wouldn't normally be used

[shell hazel]

wonder if it makes an ada/lapT vesti thing work

[spiral onyx]

More burst gen batteries is always a good thing

[shell hazel]

yeah I've not cooked anything new with LapT as such

[tropic summit]

haven't been min/maxing yet here, it's also very RNGy unlike other minigames, don't think i'll mald it

just 1 attempt a day and if i get good RNG gud, else w/e

[swift mango]

not that RNG to get to 500k, rng if you wanted 700k

[tropic summit]

those are tailored to the box of that player, it depends on what you've

[tropic summit]

did you ensure quantum was on the units provided? you should get this

scarlet 10/x/10, SR15, atk30%-40% prefered
trina recommended invest
rh max invest
laplace treasured

trina laplace and jackal quantum 4 or 7 equipped

highly suggest you record your matches, so if something goes wrong we can help you correct it

[river dune]

Yeah I did give them the quantum cube

[swift mango]

If you read the comments chain after his comment you would see scarlet unlinked.

[tropic summit]

so you 1RL nuked and didn't wipe? were you in deficit?

[river dune]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

oh oke i didn't i'm not at home

[tropic summit]

as @swift mango mentioned you can't run that lineup if scarlet is unlinked

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-musanpro-redhood-bonk-gif-6198552626379221554

[river dune]

Yeah the other two were getting the links

[tropic summit]

fix scarlet atk% OL asap, for now you can swap laplaceT with any other clip RL tier unit

[swift mango]

I'm out of nitro

[tropic summit]

centi, rumani, anis

[tropic summit]

get one of your sugar mommies to buy you a new one

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/snowwhite-nikke-cry-gif-2750523109529016542

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-little-red-riding-hood-red-riding-hood-goddi-dance-gif-8341739530991880750

I could still RH dance, thanks to tenor. That's good enough

https://tenor.com/view/doro-vapus-dance-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-13500786934828871115

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

I pulled a irl siren

[tropic summit]

what kind of things can you do with it

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-poor-nomoney-gif-2298989163615958077

[hollow lagoon]

Not much other than telling SU on surveys that I bought NIKKE merch

I do know of a friend that does unspeakable things to his figureez

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not in the financial capability to buy 2 identical figures, one for display, the other for unspeakable actions

[sage girder]

can anybody help me out with a new team? i now have almost everything i need to be a little competitive (biscuit and helm)

i'd appreciate help with both rookie and sp

[shell hazel]

damn I'd never do that haha

I don't have any figures or anything, too much to spend I think

[hollow lagoon]

The fish waifu tempted me enough

Well this would be my second

[shell hazel]

I got her in game gacha skin it was probably already too much lmao

[hollow lagoon]

Would be better if it comes with code to redeem a Siren

[shell hazel]

figures will last beyond the game eos though

there is that

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

some of them look really good I just don't want to spend that much in one hit

[hollow lagoon]

My friend got a doro one

As in the Dorothy

[shell hazel]

what is the diff between deluxe and normal siren ones?

[summer copper]

the price

[shell hazel]

must be something more than it just costing more 😛

[shell hazel]

you need the treasure helm for her to be good, which means the additional 2 dupes for 2 *

I'd stop building her too much until you can get it, keep doing the bond levels though

[summer copper]

a large metal badge i think

[shell hazel]

treasure helm needs:
30 bond level (2 * is fine don't need MLB)
SR-15 doll
160 doll materials in total for her

jackal/noah/biscuit would be good to have built for general purpose pvp but also bear in mind you want to prio pve for now

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smug-anime-smug-face-gif-23056382

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smile-smiling-shopping-kitty-gif-18637617

[spare nimbus]

will left side win? it is defending

[shell hazel]

left is always attacking seb

[spare nimbus]

ik

i forgot when screenshotting my bad 😭

[shell hazel]

there you go I fixed it

[spare nimbus]

gracias amigo

[tropic summit]

left (better dmg, less stalling)
right
right (likely)
right (depends on invest on scarlet, needs to pop 1hitko xmaiden in p5)
right (gets to indom)

[spare nimbus]

dang so im loosing 1-4 😭

[shell hazel]

left
left
right
right
left (assuming emi linked with jackal). If not right could win

I think for match 2 that the stall can survive the vesti without much support, it's just bay on def duty and helm will nuke vesti or lapT

[tropic summit]

several of these matchups are invest based tho, you might wanna check how opponent did before

SGs vs scarlet can have mixed win ratio

[tropic summit]

mirror cindy biscuit/biscuitless tends to favour biscuit teams, but not if their DPS is far inferior

as for that indom team, if SGs are stuck on indom target, you can't reach jackal/blanc/vestTU, so they can get screwed

put those info together and assume the worse imo

[spare nimbus]

bruhhhh

[tropic summit]

so their SG team did win against a scarlet similar matchup

[sage girder]

Since im not supposed to use helm would sbs snd red hood be fine for rookie? Or what?

[spare nimbus]

he was defending tho

since he is attacking he will be hitting my invincible scarlet

[shell hazel]

you can use just that she isn't that good until you get her treasure, then she goes 💥

she goes from mid to amazing then

[tropic summit]

scarlet loses link at 1RL

you take SG damage between 1RL to 2RL

scarlet also needs to reach B3 while rosanna is already B1

[spare nimbus]

ah shi

[tropic summit]

chances are these:

-SG die to scarlet s2
-at least 1 SG survives, scarlet is dead, could burst with RH B3 but she'll be very low from rosanna

[shell hazel]

ah yeah ofc lost link

[spare nimbus]

so i should probably cheer for other guy

[tropic summit]

SG team vs scarlet is generally always a matter of RNG

[shell hazel]

I just back myself until I die seb

[spare nimbus]

lol

[shell hazel]

I got both cheer trophies now

[spare nimbus]

i still dont have any

i always miss one

[shell hazel]

so I will just take the easy road

[warped scaffold]

Guys, at what cp deficit is a win almost garaunteed

[spare nimbus]

i would say 20% or more

actually like 23%

depends on their team really

[warped scaffold]

Okay lets say, no scarlet but a fast 2RL-2.5RL team

[spare nimbus]

my 1.29m cp team can tank a rosanna scarlet team at 1.05m

[warped scaffold]

😮

Im js gna make my teams 20% above to be safe

[tropic summit]

above 24% is generally lethal against anything, even biscuit locked teams because you can't 1hitko anymore unless situationally

for linked teams, 18-20% is generally the limit where you can no longer survive to 2RL

[sage girder]

icic, what about sp? what could i use? i always get outclassed by higher level people

[shell hazel]

sync is the strongest weapon of all

but outside of that you can just try to build a couple of good teams and then a campaign team probably tbh for more cp

[warped scaffold]

[shell hazel]

let me see if I can give an idea but don't prioritise pvp over main pve team necessarily - your focus should be on pushing your pve and sync/outpost

divert to pvp if you get to a good spot and feel like it

or if your main campaign stuff is good/updated

[sage girder]

dw im not really investing in pvp other than the bare minimum (level 4 abilities and basic armor)

i just wanna be able to win dailies

[shell hazel]

some units are good to build and cover both pve/pvp

like cindy and RH work for both

this is some garbage teams tbh but probably best you got atm

team 3 I'm just coping on biscuit making crown immune and otherwise it's whatever is left that has any power in your roster

can you check who links with jackal please for t1?

you can do so in shooting range, put same team into a shooting range or AI mock battle and then pause/check unit buffs

[unique mountain]

Don't leak

[sage girder]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[shell hazel]

go into a mock battle in anomaly or union shooting range, put the same team as team 1 in

when battle starts you pause the game and then you can see which units get jumpin jackal flash buff

it will be two of them besides jackal

[shell hazel]

if you click a unit it should show the buffs, looking for these

[sage girder]

both rh and alice get it

[shell hazel]

looks like alice and red hood

problem is with RH it's auto burst

and you do not want her to b2

[sage girder]

cant you put her last place to avoid that?

[shell hazel]

you could re-arrange like this

well the other issue is we do want a linked unit at p1, it makes it tanky + gives you more burst gen

ideal world you'd put jackal links at 1/2/5

but we want RH to B3

jack link works by sharing damage with jackal + 2 highest atk units

[sage girder]

mh

[shell hazel]

run it like I put there with jackal at p1, we lose RH B1 but it's better than RH B2

[sage girder]

aite

[shell hazel]

wishlist for some core missing units like trina/centi/rumani

[sage girder]

i had centi wishlisted but not the others

never heard of trina before

[shell hazel]

consider building fire vesti as she's very good for pvp, some limited pve use

[sage girder]

if she can fit my team then i can consider that

[shell hazel]

needs more resources than basic 4/4/4 though

she can fit a lot of teams, it's just heavy resource needs

[sage girder]

eh

[shell hazel]

vesti team (and mine isn't even that well built yet could be stronger)
https://youtu.be/9Wd2hG5msNM?si=UfxzRSzAiKzEzYYE&t=122

[sage girder]

wow my new units are a night/day difference from before

thanks rngods

[shell hazel]

oh yeah wishlist noise also

[sage girder]

yep had her

[shell hazel]

watch the vesti match I linked above, her nuke hits all 5 enemies

you don't really have anyone else who can do that

[sage girder]

is that maiden at the center?

[shell hazel]

xmaiden

christmas version, not the normal one

my vesti missing atk rolls on gear to make her even stronger as well

[sage girder]

mh

since i dont have her what would be a good replacement?

[shell hazel]

where is noise I don't see her in your list?

who else are you hiding?

[sage girder]

no i mean i have her in my wishlist lmao

[shell hazel]

lol

anyway vesti is very good, just needs a lot of materials

4/10/10 and SR-15 and such

the new fire one, not the old water one :p

if you did build her some for pvp you'd not be disappointed, she'll smash a lot of teams by sheer firepower

[sage girder]

but she's not ready yet or compatible with any teams i could make rn, right?

[shell hazel]

she doesn't look like she has any investment at all to me

cp can matter for pvp

if you throw in too much uninvested stuff people will just send their pve team and kill you

[sage girder]

well i could invest a bunch, just need to make sure she'll work

i just need names really, i dont invest into someone im not using

[shell hazel]

she'll work I have no doubt

[rich ledge]

I can beat this like 50% it means I only beat him when scarlet crits?

When I lose it seems like it is because noise is not killed in the nuke and Noah becomes last surviving killing off my team

Either noise Noah and biscuit survives or only Noah and biscuit

[shell hazel]

invest in a vesti today

[sage girder]

then i guess ill try her a bunch if i could get some suggestions

once i have her placed its just investing a bunch

basic 444 for now but maybe going forward i'll do more

[shell hazel]

well show me a rookie team you want to beat and we can try sending no invest vesti at it

just need to know what team you are facing

[covert lintel]

Same as me
You need crit

[sage girder]

i dont really watch what teams im facing i just see bad nikkes and face them

[shell hazel]

just screenshot a team you want to murder

[sage girder]

as i told you before i need a general team to clear dailies

[shell hazel]

at a certain point there is no such thing

[sage girder]

alright but im out of free matches

[sage girder]

gonna be a while before that isnt it

[rich ledge]

Haha there is if you just attack those below you

[shell hazel]

send one for later and I can suggest a vesti team to try after reset

[sage girder]

aight

[shell hazel]

I mean I can beat basically anyone in my rookie by virtue of cp gapping most of them

guy in 5th is just cp pad nonsense team

[sage girder]

i can either find much stronger people or much weaker ones so i guess ill go mid way

[shell hazel]

rapu crown kilo moran cindy

[sage girder]

im so cooked

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

you will need someone similar cp

cp deficit in pvp gets extremely harsh below 85%

[sage girder]

those are so easy to murder 😭 there'd be no point

[shell hazel]

you can't murder someone double your cp

even if you had core max units

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-thats-it-ive-had-enough-enough-gif-20566029

[shell hazel]

opponent cp * 0.846 = your minimum

[sage girder]

seriously i destroyed this guy and he has so much higher cp than i do

[shell hazel]

your recommended minimum

you probably only won because you actually burst and they couldn't but you take penalties to your stats

eventually you just start hitting for 1's

[rich ledge]

Why there are no whales in ur bracket?

[shell hazel]

the one you sent above will be extreme penalties

[fathom rock]

He is one of them

[shell hazel]

[sage girder]

i dont get it why would i get penalties?

[fathom rock]

Because your power is less than their power by alot

You need to be within 15.6% of their power or you start getting nerfed

[shell hazel]

I don't make the rules it's how the mechanics work

[sage girder]

wait i get debuffs for having less power? am i getting it right?

[tropic summit]

it's SU method to motivate people into:

-being active daily
-progress more than others
-spend to progress more than others

[tropic summit]

yes, you're penalized, opponent is buffed

[sage girder]

that's kinda ass wow

[tropic summit]

it's the anti casual/f2p mechanic

[tropic summit]

absolutely right, but the core issue is worse, arena is meaningless on same invest because attacker will always win, assuming same progress/invest

defense today, but even before today, had never any real chance of winning

[shell hazel]

Void is ahead of me on sync, ysteri spends more than me atm I guess (they're here in this channel)

[tropic summit]

additionally, opponents can just force through by spamming attempts as long as they got gems

if you looking at a good pvp experience, don't look at this game

[sage girder]

ok i got muted for one minute for saying di do

gotta love that

[shell hazel]

I'm heavily invested in my units anyway, even at same sync I can gap people as I got all on SR-15 😄

[tropic summit]

quite on point, 10/10

[shell hazel]

it's valid but it's as rail says

[tropic summit]

essentially if you're the underdog, you're punished even further once a certain difference is reached

this is a system to motivate players into spending and keeping up daily with the game to compete

[shell hazel]

oh yeah we didn't even discuss the people who leave and come back

[sage girder]

which is not really on character since the rest of the game compared to anything else is very generous with resources

[shell hazel]

pvp feels kind of optional though tbh

you could actually just ignore it if you felt like it

[sage girder]

it really does in this state

[tropic summit]

yes and no, rankings in general in this game are very punishing

[sage girder]

but muh daily rewards

[shell hazel]

you can just get wins vs someone weaker than you/lower cp/worse team etc

[sage girder]

in rookie i'd say you're right, not in sp unless you're lucky

[shell hazel]

actually this is especially true if you set a dumb def on purpose so you never have tough opponents

[tropic summit]

since a good chunk of gem income is locked behind pvp and SR, arguably, you losing out on quite a bit

[shell hazel]

no spa you don't want to do that

[tropic summit]

but it won't block you from playing the game casually

[shell hazel]

mind you - top 30 spa is plenty good enough for most

it's 2000 gems every 2 weeks, good enough for f2p min/maxers

less harsh than trying to stay at the top

[sage girder]

i'd love even 1000 gems weekly

[shell hazel]

top 30 should be a goal then if you can

if you ever take breaks though from the game and come back you just fell miles behind

to stay even there would need some focus and daily activity I think

your pvp opponents are based on when you started playing the game, if you stop playing for 6 months they all carry on, you still have same opponents just they all carried on playing

so you're now -6 months of time/resources behind, and that will never adjust, you'll probably never see top 30 after that

omg omg omg

[tropic summit]

@swift mango azur lane and their creative censoring never fails to deliver

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon i betted on you

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon I also betted on you

[tropic summit]

he outwhels you @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

that he does

https://tenor.com/view/its-hunting-season-good-will-hunting-jay-and-silent-bob-gif-14845237

in 13 CA's this is the first time I've had to face Zanta

@desert sphinx

https://tenor.com/view/anime-help-tears-cry-sad-gif-17104681

[tropic summit]

as rosy would say

"just auto and hope for the best"

[shell hazel]

lmao clutched one game with 4% hp scar nuke

[hollow lagoon]

time to slay the whale

[shell hazel]

I haven't checked yet how our matches lie

[hollow lagoon]

brave hippo

[shell hazel]

I didn't change my teams or order at all lol

[hollow lagoon]

time to claim your destiny

oh

i just made sure my order was different from yours i didnt check counter or anything

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

shall we see

[hollow lagoon]

but killing your whale was

good

[shell hazel]

yeah I appreciate it thankyou good sir 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

Huh I won p1

lol slwo cindy

[shell hazel]

t1 - my scar into your slow cindy - I should win that if my scar crits
t2 - your scar into my slow cindy - eh opposite lol
t3 - sg vs sg but bay edition vs xanne edition
t4 - vesti into stall
t5 - stall into vesti

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

god I don't even know 😄

I'm happy to leave this one to coin toss

I couldn't pick that to save my life

[rich ledge]

Ok I guess I'm out this time

[shell hazel]

bro lol

his soda team went just like I thought

#pvp-arena message

yup no burst from unprotected p2 unbuilt soda

[rich ledge]

Soda, scarlet should be linked right? So wouldn't die

[shell hazel]

yeah if linked she is fine

it's unlinked you don't want at p2

[rich ledge]

It looks to be so for my opponent

[shell hazel]

refer to zantas match where opponent soda was p2 unlinked

you can tell from their previous matches, watch who takes damage from the link

@hollow lagoon moran guy (diff pic) vs tenshi

both swept last set 5-0, but both can't sweep 5-0 this time

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

also gz @cunning crown for making it 😄

@tropic summit another chinnit slow cindy comp?

seems this one is more popular than the mihara p2 version lately, but as we saw with keripo match it can lose to sg on def when mihara dies too quick and then we snowball ros kills

[rich ledge]

Oo this guy is a whale my server is 13k and his is 17k but he is around 20 levels higher

[minor warren]

Hey guys, just wanted to know if there could be a better DEF team than mines actually ? Been a while since i last updated it, Dunno who i could switch & put out/in

Got every chara except Vesti for now

[obtuse dagger]

whats the difference of clip RL to RL only?

[shell hazel]

RL

clip RL

noah and lapT have special gen it's not quite as good as trina/centi but it's not far off

LapT is similar to Noah here

[obtuse dagger]

i see thanks for your info appreciate it!

[shell hazel]

my matches uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDNBphIbFc

[gaunt bane]

why does Siren stun RH in this MU? 🤔

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

WE SURVIVEDDDDD

[dense kindle]

Lets gooo

Carry on without me 🥲

[violet spoke]

When is stun?

[gaunt bane]

wdym

[violet spoke]

Was thinking about something but iam probably wrong so nvm

[glad glade]

@umbral belfry @coarse lake @swift mango It worked! Thank you!

[woven cave]

b2 red hood has a taunt

[violet spoke]

Thats what i was thinking red hood taunts then 50th round stuns her

[umbral belfry]

I will try

[gaunt bane]

Jackal bursted tho, so RH got stunned before that

or I could be wrong 🤔 .. hard to see if RH burst or Jackal burst

happy that I finally won this stupid cp gap guy tho

[gritty ridge]

Jackal should burst because shes further to the left

[gaunt bane]

oh right 🤦

[gritty ridge]

Why are you using b2 redhood anyway

[gaunt bane]

I was counting on Jackal getting stunned first

so RH > RH > Ein

[violet spoke]

Your team burst to fast for that

[gaunt bane]

but I guess I burst faster than siren stun yea

[gritty ridge]

The sheer amount of feed that team gives you promotes you to too fast for that

[gaunt bane]

so I should go RH - Jackal - Ein - Naga - HelmT next time probably

RH & HelmT are linked

[gritty ridge]

No

Thats how you get dead redhood

[gaunt bane]

what should I run then

this is a cp gap team that I barely have enough cp to outspeed + not get deficit lol

[gritty ridge]

Do you have biscuit?

[gaunt bane]

I do, but Biscuit minimally invested

[gritty ridge]

Actually, send roster

[gaunt bane]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjk0NzgzNDI1MDUyOTc3MzU1OA%3D%3D

[gritty ridge]

Lemme cook you up bigboi57 special

[gaunt bane]

btw I won, but I'm just wondering if I could do better

[gritty ridge]

Blablalink

[gaunt bane]

ok fine brb with ss

[gritty ridge]

Crown, naga, redhood, biscuit, helm

[shell hazel]

doro is a SG so she hits p5 but she's the only one, think Helm can survive for long enough

[gaunt bane]

262k, just teethering at 15.1% deficit

would that be safer or jackal team safer lol

[shell hazel]

biscuit probably tanking you too much

[gaunt bane]

biscuit & jackal same cp

[shell hazel]

no it's not quite

you're OK at that level

[gritty ridge]

Man crown just loves to be bad cp, mine is super low too

[shell hazel]

you could also keep running the jackal/RH one but swap RH and Naga position

so that Naga b2 instead of RH

that stops RH taunting

[gaunt bane]

hmm I was hoping for RH B1 so Ein burst outright kill the other team lol

[gritty ridge]

Also hi hippo

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Rh on a jackal team is really annoying to use if she links

[gaunt bane]

yea she does link...

just how campaign investment work lol

[gritty ridge]

Thats why i suggested good ol biscuit

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry we survived but I gotta go whale hunting next match

[river dune]

Who the hell thought it was a good idea to give range attack to a tank?

[gritty ridge]

Go on captain ahab, get that whale

[shell hazel]

just gotta kill @hollow lagoon highlander style

[tropic summit]

spoiler: they're both whales, just hope they both lose 🐳

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/one-highlander-kurgan-chop-goodbye-gif-10680493

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[gritty ridge]

Nvrmind then

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-bam-got-em-steven-he-stven-he-bejing-corn-gerdgvzsdgzsdgfsdgw4agfgadgwr-gif-24360650

[gritty ridge]

Btw hi rail, long time no see

[tropic summit]

just that one is a whale that just learned to swim, the other is a whale that feeds on whales

[shell hazel]

I can't whale enough to keep up with bigboi tbh

[tropic summit]

what do you mean long time it hasn't been 24hrs probably

[shell hazel]

who has the power of being in personal finance

[gritty ridge]

[gritty ridge]

I didnt talk to you at all tho

[tropic summit]

bigboi works as a fitness trainer to finance himself on nikke

[shell hazel]

where's my loan bigboi?

[tropic summit]

stealing money from the ladies

[gritty ridge]

Hime keeps robbing me

[shell hazel]

how am I meant to feed my kids on core dust this month?!

[tropic summit]

that sounds like a YOU problem

[gritty ridge]

I cant stop her shes too strong

[gritty ridge]

Nah we were just active at different times lol

[shell hazel]

I dunno what really constitutes a whale here

how much is whale spending?

[gritty ridge]

Id say buying coredust

[shell hazel]

well no you gotta put a $ amount on it I think

[gritty ridge]

cuz i don't buy coredust so that would mean im not a whale

Id say over 100$ a month is approaching whale territory

[shell hazel]

good I'm probably there or just under

safu

[gritty ridge]

Gacha skins make it so I cant be safe

[shell hazel]

I skip some

I buy some, probably won't change

[gritty ridge]

1 gacha skin and 2 pass skins is already 100$

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't get em all

[gritty ridge]

There is 1 gacha skin i skipped

And it was 2b

[shell hazel]

only 1? I skipped a few tbh

[gritty ridge]

Ive been playing a much shorter time than you tbf

[shell hazel]

true true

[gritty ridge]

I got the scar skin at a discount

[shell hazel]

yeah I got the game with that one

so I don't know if I really count it

[gritty ridge]

I didnt get the game, I bought someone's cdkey for 15$