pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

just open crates to 461

[tropic summit]

once new chapts are in sure

gonna get it naturally in a few weeks

[umbral crown]

Your team 3 is exactly one of my sp defense

[shell hazel]

454! cheating

[umbral crown]

Ready for 501?

[tropic summit]

you're already 461 shush

[swift mango]

I used Moran mainly because DR stacking is good when you get them (to or close to) CP gap.

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

401 still lmao

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Like wouls you be 501 with new chaps?

[swift mango]

But are you one shooting jackal link before 2rl B1?

[shell hazel]

it's @gritty ridge fault he was meant to be getting into personal finance and giving me a loan for more spending

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

No idea, there is no action in sp

[tropic summit]

instead he became a fitness trainer, touching in weird places the ladies

[shell hazel]

personal trainer + personal finance guy

[umbral crown]

And have not used that team in attack

[tropic summit]

uhhhhhhhhhhh lemme do the maths

[swift mango]

Test it in rookie. I didn't use this team in DEF ofc.

[shell hazel]

rail can crate to almost 481 I feel it

[tropic summit]

181k + 70k + 32k + 9k + 3k = 295k / 13k = 23ish levels?

[swift mango]

Even I can.

[tropic summit]

that'd be 454 + 23 = 477

[shell hazel]

you guys are just overpowered though

[kind dawn]

Anyone mind explaining to me what these mean on Nikke deck? thank you

[shell hazel]

rail moaning I'm catching him but he's 80 levels ahead 😄

[tropic summit]

you're catching up slowly is the concerning part

especially since i started months earlier than you?

[shell hazel]

it's because each level costs you more

[tropic summit]

no the more concerning part is my whel having 100 levels ahead when he was 20 levels behind me

[swift mango]

I could get to 476-477 too.
471 now.

[shell hazel]

that's normal it's just the 💳

[tropic summit]

post your current gem count

[shell hazel]

I don't know you just said you started at moran like I'm meant to know when that is 😄

pascal save me

[swift mango]

Gem is just luck. LeveL is determination.

[tropic summit]

5 seconds search

[shell hazel]

january!

you been slacking Rail

[tropic summit]

aye aye, keep tellin' yourself that mister 🧱

[tropic summit]

what's the expected level for my current synchro then?

assuming f2p anyway

[shell hazel]

call it start of feb to my start of nov - 10 months diff

I have no idea :9

[swift mango]

If I deduct the 40-50k I used I should still have 140k gem with your luck - 1 month.

[tropic summit]

oi.

[tropic summit]

yet you don't, git gud

[shell hazel]

am a bit quicker but am spender right

I don't think it would be 10 months for me to 481 but I don't think it's super quick either, more than a month per 20 levels from 401

[swift mango]

Well, I have Emi, 2B and SElegg MLB, I'm fine for now.

To be frank I did pulled for those limited SSR MLB, you didn't.

[tropic summit]

well to give you an idea, my whel that started on same day is now around 80 levels ahead and he was 20 levels behind at lvl 160 (wall time)

[swift mango]

The 2 ReiA and ReiT too

That should be good reason for my

[tropic summit]

lemme put that in proportion

[swift mango]

I shouldn't be bricked if I didn't pull 150 on SElegg for nothing and had to use 800 mileage

So still luck issue

[tropic summit]

this was may 27

this is now

[shell hazel]

you got more RH dupes than me 😮

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

🐳

[tropic summit]

it's the RH that went to me instead of @umbral crown

[shell hazel]

their CP is kind of pathetic given that level diff

you're practically in range at such a high level gap

I'd be embarassed if i had +80 sync and wasn't cp gapping the hell out of my opponents 😄

[tropic summit]

he doesn't invest in pvp

he still has exact same teams as 4 months back

btw this is disgusting, just did the maths:

5.5 times more per month

[swift mango]

I already deleted all record to make space for phone but around this time I was beating my whale ass because he only 20 level gap me with out OL when I had full OL teams.

And I mean in DEF, not atk

[tropic summit]

5.5 times with 💳 it's ridicolous now that i look at it

[shell hazel]

not quite as big a gap with my whale but they started around the same time and whilst being behind me in campaign are +25 sync on me now

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

and it's all invested pvp units with max cores and SR-15 bs

just whale tech buying core dust daily packs

funding SU

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, other way around. They touch me

[swift mango]

Now. He staying c3 too lazy to hit CA anymore.

[tropic summit]

you wish

[tropic summit]

probably got tired of getting spanked by you

[gritty ridge]

Nah i wouldnt do anything weird with my clients lol

I like my money

[umbral crown]

501

[swift mango]

He was 80 level gapped me few months ago and I gave up hitting him already. Dude lazy to open his box and got to 40-60 level gap range so I hit him down.

Then he just stayed there

[umbral crown]

So i need to whale 4 months to be in range of my whale

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

But what if you give those levels to me

[shell hazel]

then I won't be cp gapping them anymore

you'll be doing it for me 🙏

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

I will do the thing railsl refuses to do

[swift mango]

Kinda proud of my whale making it to top 8 once at least.
Not everyone has whale that are interested in Arena even a bit.

This guy is true hard grinder of my bracket though... F2P that tried hard enough to get to CA (c4) and full SR frame 3 (in SEA). Other in my bracket couldn't out online him in the tug of war so they gave up half way into each season.

[shell hazel]

had 26 f2p outfits?

[swift mango]

F2P in the sense of only buy outfit.

[tropic summit]

wut, what is it

[quick lake]

Free to Pay

[tropic summit]

you kidding me

[umbral crown]

I just need to force my way to 481

[tropic summit]

but how

[umbral crown]

Doing the thing

[tropic summit]

...the thing?

[shell hazel]

💳

f2p

[tropic summit]

wut thing

[umbral crown]

Yeah the Thing

[tropic summit]

nono you wouldn't.

...right?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

whaletracer

[umbral crown]

Probablt...

[tropic summit]

oh no

they got Rosy too

[umbral crown]

I would

[shell hazel]

the thing is done

[swift mango]

Whalexxi

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor rosy gonna whel...

[umbral crown]

But but

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mwdh-credit-card-credit-card-meme-meme-shy-gif-1798283749390617503

[umbral crown]

I just want to have fun with the C1 wheel

[tropic summit]

ye but you feedin' scammers pockets

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-to-go-rescue-him-stan-marsh-south-park-s6e17-red-sleigh-down-gif-19511478

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna look at non pg13 family friendly pictures of Evernight to cheer up

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/march-7th-march-7-march-dark-march-evernight-gif-11710067140662393087

[glad meteor]

I’ll do the same with ada wong I guess, or dimitrescu sisters since re collab

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Just enough to 541, the thing

[tropic summit]

get gapped scrub

[tropic summit]

my whel moran solo'ing me too @swift mango , i feel your pain

[shell hazel]

oh good lord

[umbral crown]

Thr generak teams been using when i had some action

[shell hazel]

just whel for 100 levels np

[tropic summit]

wow he outlevel my whel of 2 levels

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/spanky-throwing-money-cash-money-our-gang-little-rascals-gif-17781337

[umbral crown]

No action is no bueno

[tropic summit]

drop to ch10, hit everyone, grab popcorn and watch the chaos

if i was a whel i'd do that everyday

[umbral crown]

Pelg for some reason gave up when i just swapped team 2 with team 3 and team 1 remained the same

[tropic summit]

they know you hit back within 1 hour you silly

[umbral crown]

I was hitting him the moment he did

[swift mango]

Just need to change back to Resilence cube to not get gapped.

[umbral crown]

His attacks were around 10 pm my time

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[umbral crown]

Most of the time he held the spot for 10 min , sometimes less

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/4qp8BuX_TlI?si=dKEyFYxYIfYkvn5N

[umbral crown]

He had a time attacking at 1 am

[tropic summit]

be my chinnit, staying up until 4.59AM chinese time just to hit 1 min pre reset

[shell hazel]

be a dedicated whel

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

I do not wait to hit before reset, gems are there to be used

[tropic summit]

but now he's back into healthy sleep schedules, he logs in only twice

i think his parents saw him up at 4.59AM playing gacha games and might've slapped some sense into him

[umbral crown]

Thats why people lose points in ranks, waiting for a advantage before reset

Thats why if you fight me and i lose attacks you need to get your jims ready

[tropic summit]

you bully.

[umbral crown]

But bein ages since last time i gem

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bullying-bully-gif-25237232

[umbral crown]

Ols times

[swift mango]

No CP gap here.
I just tried my best version (17+3 ammo Vesti) to test.

He is only 10 level above me

[umbral crown]

Now the bois 465,441+just there, existing

Need to get in range again to have fun with the whale

[swift mango]

I guess these guys used these Rookie teams because they beat this exact comp I used for DEF.

[tropic summit]

omg hold on you've to watch this

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

oh god it's cursed

[umbral crown]

Like pelg resting in C5 could fight weij but no

[glad meteor]

Rosy not appreciating the peace

[umbral crown]

No idea why, maybe both cn

[shell hazel]

I had like 100 glorious days of no attacks once, it was glorious

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderation-ban-mod-ban-gif-9351874248631360646

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

cindy p1!

[tropic summit]

beautiful

screw deficit, 1RL let's go

[glad meteor]

Rail has pve scar

[tropic summit]

22% deficit scar jack 1RL

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

1RL!

[tropic summit]

no siren stun doesn't even land in time

[umbral crown]

Maybe i should start cooking the whale again since i have free hits and nobody gonna attack

[shell hazel]

🤓 you can't win if you let me 1RL

[umbral crown]

Focing my way to 461 before he does 561

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-was-never-an-option-gif-16631992813893804773

[tropic summit]

either way, next bunny/summer skin, thank you

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-nick-offerman-thumbs-up-right-on-good-job-gif-1638195189746996593

[swift mango]

In about 6+ month maybe you guys would be like my bracket C1-2-3, too lazy to hit each other twice a day.

[tropic summit]

i can give you mine where they see you ch3 they'll hit you, if you stay ch4 they don't give a f*k

[shell hazel]

it's not even that whale bro is offline too much to actually get 1st, even if I don't gem

[swift mango]

If you was level 481 like you should be maybe you would be hit less.
And my C3 is 80 level gaps lower guys,
Edit: Lower guys sometime hit me though. Not that they beat me anyway,

[shell hazel]

I work from home and can check in the office on my mobile so I don't really have a ton of gaps in time

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

my whale is just offline for 12-24 hours a lot, and therefore if I get my timing right I just hold SPA 1 most of the time anyway

[umbral crown]

thats me

But they think im checking like i used to do

They had bad luck attackig when i was online

[shell hazel]

I won't hit back right away if I lose as well

[swift mango]

about 1 year in like you, my whale was hyper active online every 3 hours aside from the 5-7 hours he sleep.

[shell hazel]

I force them to be inconvenienced to keep on top of it

[gritty ridge]

Hippo what was the number for ammo i needed again?

The max number i mean

[shell hazel]

phone is instant resume it's no effort at all, I make various cups of tea in my working day I just check it then 🙂

[shell hazel]

for scar? 32 or less is safu

30 - 31 is ideal, siren can brick your ammo though

[shell hazel]

yeah that is good 60%

[gritty ridge]

32 ammo

[shell hazel]

rounds to 32 should be siren safu

[swift mango]

Scar? 32.
Vesti indom? 20.
Bonus, ReiT indom? 130. (one black line + bastion)

[shell hazel]

I assumed it's scar

you may want to lock it for attribute rerolls as I think 60% is about as good as you can get there, rolling blue/black line ammo would be potential brick

[swift mango]

Well, ammo is good if you don't use Scar p1.

[shell hazel]

yeah though I think 32 is good for various possible scar roles

if you go higher you can no longer run her p1

[swift mango]

I got 3 blue ammo line 14 (almost black) and had to roll them off and one changed to 60%, still feel the pain.

[swift mango]

how many rock today?

[gritty ridge]

I just need to reroll percents and shes gonna be so damn strong

10/12 ideal lines

[shell hazel]

good lines I think yeah

[wind kelp]

Oh well, wasn't in the stars this time around. Both losses atleast 2-3 so, probably wasn't far off.

[tropic summit]

eh we'll see soon, almost done eating my fries and chicken

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[gritty ridge]

The only improvement I could make would be 2 more ele lines

But im not gonna, vesti needs rocks

[shell hazel]

don't think you need too much ele tbh

oh I thought was vesti for some reason lmao

but same applies, don't need ele there, crit dmg/crit rate for scar

[gritty ridge]

Just imagine my scary 35% crit rate, 60% atk scar

[tropic summit]

and then matchmade against 2RL noah

[shell hazel]

atk/crit rate/crit dmg

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna have the strongest scar in the baby bracket and shes only gonna match against bay and noah

[tropic summit]

sounds like @swift mango RNG

[swift mango]

or getting one shot by vesti.

[gritty ridge]

Yknow what?

Ez solution

1.5 rl scar

[tropic summit]

da who

[swift mango]

rolling for 25% CS all RL but your enemy has 11% cs all reload so it's still the same. And you lose indom war.

[tropic summit]

only a few more days i can play this on loop

https://youtu.be/UWGQpUGR3G0?list=RDUWGQpUGR3G0

i need one for each month

@swift mango results are here, as I expected yesterday i g- wait what.

@shell hazel thank you for the rocks

https://tenor.com/view/run-away-freak-out-happy-excited-run-gif-5324613

[vapid lake]

Dont pray for rocks, pray for good line rng

Yesterdya i got 1 rock, and i got 2 blue lines in a single roll
Today i got 9 rocks and got 0 progress

[swift mango]

I have none so it's fine

[tropic summit]

that's why i generally wait i've like 100-150 piled up

that way it hurts less when they start going down fast

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Pikkatou lun ga Hikattara

[tropic summit]

sassuga Rosy-san desu

[umbral crown]

Im your delta besto fan

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

I also got the BDs from their last concert in 2023

[tropic summit]

wowie

big fan eh

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oshi-no-ko-hoshino-glow-sticks-oshi-no-ko-hoshino-glow-sticks-gif-16068719193860691610

[umbral crown]

Watching it sometimes knowing pvp is safe nothing to worry about

Even tho i check sP from time to time

To not lose the tact

Now 1M @keen vapor

[tropic summit]

wonder if your pvp was ever in danger anyway

[umbral crown]

Just having a 1 time attack with weij

We attack each other once a day and if one fails just try again till win and thats it

I have been with weij since my 160s days

[keen vapor]

Waos

If only @Quby was into PVP

[umbral crown]

Make him

[keen vapor]

Can't

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[keen vapor]

Can't even find him like it used to be with check

[umbral crown]

Like get 481 boost

Check is cooking you

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple want advice against XP?

[umbral crown]

Go update your defense

[keen vapor]

The fastest I can do that is at anni (naturally)

[keen vapor]

Just did

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

Holy, my rank is so high, for all of the 5 minutes I have it that is.

[swift mango]

well, yes, considered he started 1 month before you.

[umbral crown]

Make him gem

Then you gem again till he gets the message

[tropic summit]

what's ur def now

[umbral crown]

I was stuck at 160 for like 1-2 months tho

[dire root]

Holy that combat power.

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Rapu

[umbral crown]

Director san

[keen vapor]

And you stuck in hard campaign for even longer

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[storm quail]

https://youtu.be/_LWCDTgP1rI?si=cCu1GD_3Im4mjIwx

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

But hard is easy to fix

Just auto and hope for the best

[storm quail]

@keen vapor Comments?

[keen vapor]

push

[swift mango]

Happen to me everyday if I wanted to.

[vapid lake]

How about u get 501

[keen vapor]

I stopped watching 7 seconds after emi ded

[vapid lake]

Stop brick 🧱

[storm quail]

Would this be better

[keen vapor]

What about Vesti

[umbral crown]

When i get 441 i will

[storm quail]

Shouldve watched 3rd team

[keen vapor]

Fine....

[umbral crown]

That reminds me how my moran soloed blanc biscuit and jackal with less than 1% hp

[swift mango]

use siren to stun moran then wipe with 2rl scarlet

[umbral crown]

[storm quail]

My_scarlet_sucks.jpg

[swift mango]

replace Blanc with Noah and Centi with Siren.

[keen vapor]

Then get blocked by Bay?

[keen vapor]

Vesti

[swift mango]

their team is 3rl

[keen vapor]

Sus

[keen vapor]

Is this the legendary moran 4 attack 4 def?

[storm quail]

I am not familiar with how siren works, will Moran still be stunned when burst

[storm quail]

I have no clue

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

well blood isn't wrong, it's a 3RL

or at best via CS% a 2.5RL

if siren stuns moran, they lose anti nuke, scarlet wipes

[storm quail]

Don't mock my ignorance dude

[keen vapor]

Ok, you want to three win him

[storm quail]

My Vesti team burst slightly slower so I have more Noah invince

[keen vapor]

I vote Drake

[swift mango]

That why you always lose in CA. Can't even gauge CS of simple teams by just a glance.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberbullying-cyberbully-typing-typing-fast-anime-gif-25012932

[shell hazel]

I tried to see if AI could tetris the inventory system on the mini-game to position as many flamethrowers as possible

[keen vapor]

That's why I always lose SP attacks*

[shell hazel]

Grok at least is incapable of doing it

[tropic summit]

translate it in a grid and give it positions

e.g. "make grid 8x8, help me fit items that are x x x x in the grid"

[shell hazel]

I did

[keen vapor]

AI can't do anything AI stupid

[shell hazel]

it can't do it, if you have one try it 🙂

I told it the grid was 9x9 and the shape was

| |X|
|X|X|
| |X|```

[tropic summit]

oh we think alike, did you try that on chatGPT?

[storm quail]

Its actually ASS, Artificial Stupid Stuff

[shell hazel]

no

only grok, it kept on giving me the wrong answers lol

[tropic summit]

uh that's weird, matrixes should be something they've plenty of learning done

[shell hazel]

I can do 9 or 10 weapons on the 9x9 grid as a human, it really can't do tetris shape

[tropic summit]

especially when it comes to optimization

[shell hazel]

and it kept telling me it had corrected things but just broke more stuff 😄

try chatGPT with it if you have it

[tropic summit]

where the f is my "quick run" on this tho seriously it's been years

[shell hazel]

I asked it to put [00] for empty slots and [01] [02] etc for weapons

[keen vapor]

Unless you grow up on Twitter

[tropic summit]

oh no...

[keen vapor]

Imagine getting yourself banned as an AI

[keen vapor]

That's normal?

[shell hazel]

no you must partake in mandatory tries for fun

[tropic summit]

no i mean why do i've to waste time running mock run when we could just not matchmake at all for anything that isn't an actual lobby or challenge with randos

[swift mango]

2.5RL that made by SG 5th shot, P1 Moran stunned (my bad for saying not stunned before), B2 could catch 2rl without much CS.
Edit: According to Nikke.top it's not stun. My test with 2.5rl by S.Anis 5th hit could be exception.

2.5RL made by Emi 21% (not counting s1 max), P1 Moran not stunned, B2 not catching 2rl. Emi 25% and B2 could catch 2RL without CS.

2.5RL made by HelmT 21%, P1 Moran stunned. HelmT 25%, not tested.

[tropic summit]

define "for fun"

[keen vapor]

so people can find partners easily

[tropic summit]

i'd rather just solo it

if coop is a nuisance that's a development error

[keen vapor]

Good lord

[tropic summit]

this MF for example waiting until 1 sec was left in lobby to click ready

[shell hazel]

yeah I hate those punks

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[shell hazel]

I just alt-f4 if I see someone afking until time out 😄

I'd rather reload and find a party where people don't make me wait the full 45 secs for them to pick a unit

[tropic summit]

fortunately i've got more Evernight art to look at to regain my sanity

[swift mango]

change to 3k unit to boot

[coarse lake]

You didn't ask (also I forgot) next season trust

[gritty ridge]

So group stage was almost a full sweep, im gonna be invest diffed next match

[hollow hamlet]

did they switch to an R unit at the last minute too?

[tropic summit]

a classic indeed

[keen vapor]

DEATH

[short moon]

:< i haven't been able to check, been stuck on a flight for 14hrs

[keen vapor]

The true classic was the chuunibyo we made along the way

A lot of people traveling these days

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

that's a lot of flamethrowers

[keen vapor]

That's only 1 wym

[tropic summit]

yeah a purple one now

[vapid lake]

get on my level

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

Burn it all down

[swift mango]

Which floor did you reach? I just finished upgrade today because I didn't know to save gold before to upgrade first.

Just wanted to check how far could you made at max level.

[vapid lake]

46

[swift mango]

Nice. I'm trying to to make it pass 40 with maining Jill signature weapon. Hope I could get there. Now that my upgrade is maxed.

Looking like full AoE is the way to go. But I don't want to.

[hoary maple]

What is "links" on the nikke -deck website?

[tropic summit]

jackal links

jackal links with the 2 highest atk% in the team

sharing damage between the units

any linked unit that is hit can receive feed which adds to your burst gen

additionally, assuming your linked units are hit only, you can ensure indom target is lowest hp in the link

typically linked unit in p1 and p5 with blanc in p2 will ensure your indom target is your link prefered low HP

example video here

SBS is lowest HP in the link, as jackal has higher HP naturally due to being defender and helmT is equipped with vigor, but also a treasured unit with higher stats

blanc cannot indom herself so she can be any HP

[vapid lake]

echo getting beaten by a guy who doesn't know what jackal link is

[tropic summit]

funny times we live in

[swift mango]

That's why he could C4 despite how bricked he is

[hoary maple]

I know what the skill does, I don't understand how to use the deck website.

[vapid lake]

We're just making fun of echo because he's 🧱

[tropic summit]

yes don't worry and make it seem like an assist 🧱

[hoary maple]

Oh I guess you select 1 if jackal links with the he P1 unit?

[hoary maple]

Ok thanks

[vapid lake]

At this rate i will pass mc before echo

[tropic summit]

when did @keen vapor make his account again?

[vapid lake]

When did check make his account, echo should be around same time

[tropic summit]

@hoary maple when did you start?

[vapid lake]

@hoary maple since u're here

[tropic summit]

the month is enough

[vapid lake]

Echo first msg in this server is november 2023

[tropic summit]

noway he made his account in november 2023

[vapid lake]

That my guess

[tropic summit]

that'd make him ultra brickeroni with salsa

[hoary maple]

I joined during the Quiry event, so I think it was early October 2023

[tropic summit]

yeah noway he's 2023 account

[vapid lake]

He's 🧱

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

[swift mango]

You could check Echo Blabla and know exactly which day his account is created.

[tropic summit]

where is that information

https://tenor.com/view/peek-hiding-creepy-smile-rage-anime-gif-17803256

[tropic summit]

i'm listening

[swift mango]

Echo started end of Quiry even yeah. He said it himself.

[tropic summit]

oh god.

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

that's ultra brickeroni a la salsa pepperoni

[vapid lake]

I have 6 flamethrowers u only 5

[glad meteor]

RH banner

[vapid lake]

[hollow lagoon]

ok i understand how to play now

[swift mango]

You said you only got to floor 46.

[vapid lake]

For that run, not highest score ever

[tropic summit]

bah my best so far

gonna need to grind gold i guess

[vapid lake]

Just dont spend any gold and u can max out all the stat fast

[tropic summit]

i wonder what's the meta weapons, this isn't clear enough

[vapid lake]

spend them in-game = no money to upgrade stat outside

[swift mango]

Yeah don't spend... I made it to your point with full sub machine gun even.

[tropic summit]

[spare nimbus]

will I most likely lose? I'm left side attacking

[tropic summit]

left
right
left (based on invest, should wipe)
left
right

[spare nimbus]

this would probably be easier if I was defending lol

[tropic summit]

for T5 for sure

instead of killing RH and biscuit, you're stuck on blanc

[swift mango]

You could win 1234. Guaranteed lose 5. Guaranteed win 4, and probably 1.

[hoary maple]

That's 5 days after me

[swift mango]

Match 2 has 2 case to win.

1.Rapu stun at 2.5rl before Scar bursting.
2. Vesti synch her shots and kill.

[tropic summit]

ye can be either way

[spare nimbus]

I hope both happen 💀

[tropic summit]

realistically, right side has more chances (for that one)

even in worse case scenario, i think he can aim for 3-2

[wicked horizon]

The people believe in me.

[tropic summit]

don't believe in people, look at the matchup and believe what you see

[wicked horizon]

Matchup is shaky, but what else is new.

Can't tell if my bricked Nero Moran team wins or their bricked 5RL team.

[tropic summit]

if it's a slow cindy 5RL, you're in trouble

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[wicked horizon]

Well, I'm just happy with getting past the group stage.
I'll be happy regardless of how my bets go.

[slim mortar]

grenades only

but it's quite rng heavy cuz u need max debuff duration and a lot of reload speed (40%+)

[swift mango]

I tried sniper rifle focus once, one stage it best everything easily. Another stage it was useless.

Instant death RNG be damned

[slim mortar]

I really liked this minigame the first few days but once I realized that if you wanna go for a very high score you need to do trait fishing it instantly turned me off

did 620k and I think im gonna leave it at that, maybe the other characters make it less rng dependent but I doubt it

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-gif-11426619910221365543

[swift mango]

Give this luck to my rock please.

[gritty ridge]

Is that toradora

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/aaronpaul-aaron-paul-cry-crying-gif-7621646

[tropic summit]

it's an older one that had very silly comedy and was very short

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see, it looked like taiga

[tropic summit]

but ye it aint toradora

[indigo path]

i got vestiTU on my alt

literally all three TU units, meanwhile main has none

[swift mango]

It's +Tic Neechan if I remember it right. Series still in update even if I haven't read it for year.

[swift mango]

Up to 200+ chapter now. Not that short.

[tropic summit]

oh i meant the anime not the novel tho

[swift mango]

It's manga original.

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake @fathom rock dis enough ele for ein for that sh*tty MC?

i could fish one more line buuuut...

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

dafuq she has more CP than my RRH and siren now

[leaden canyon]

Yeah that should be enough

[tropic summit]

ok now just need the levels

although seeing 60 rocks fly out of the window in 10 mins hurts

almost feels like how @swift mango feels everyday

[swift mango]

One of the best comedy manga ever.

[tropic summit]

yeah you got it right

[swift mango]

I think I have left it marinate enough, stop reading since the anime started and Manga group stop uploading.

[tropic summit]

although it was in ONA format and only 12 eps

[swift mango]

Now I saw 200+ chapters on mangapark, time to dig it.

[tropic summit]

wowie

enjoy

[swift mango]

It's still in my update list on Mangapark btw

See it jump up over time is one of the joy I have left.

[spare nimbus]

Could I have 5-0 if i defended?

[tropic summit]

5 is side oriented, as i said earlier you'd kill RH and biscuit, rosanna would drop emi and leave laplace on low HP. As RH is their only B1, they can't indom

T2 is not guaranteed, in fact you're likely to lose it

it's just that blood places his hopes on rapu stun and a bug currently ongoing (sync shot)

T3 SHOULD be your win but it's invest dependant, if your units aren't maxed you might not wipe

[spare nimbus]

4x attack scar should be fine right

Rh and scar both max skill

[tropic summit]

40%atk scar, maxed trina and RH skill levels should ensure you wipe even if moran happens to burst on 2.5RL

should maybe leave nero alive

[swift mango]

No

[covert lintel]

finally 3 win

[tropic summit]

reported

[gritty ridge]

Rail i have a question for ya

[tropic summit]

deported

[gritty ridge]

Scissor girl said you said 23 ammo scar is siren susceptible

[tropic summit]

f*k me more books

[gritty ridge]

Or not 23, 32

[tropic summit]

i've no clue about static ammo because i keep forgetting, iirc 50% ammo OL is fine

[gritty ridge]

Whatever the number is

[covert lintel]

My new strat against whale : rosanna indom

[tropic summit]

i think someone said 60% also works

lemme just look it up in this chat

[gritty ridge]

Blood and hippo said im good

[tropic summit]

from here

#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

I said 60% cuz hippo told me 60%

[tropic summit]

oh dis is gud

#pvp-arena message

sassuga Rin sensei

[gritty ridge]

I tested against some siren teams but I think they all fed me to 1.5rl

[tropic summit]

so the golden number is 30

[tropic summit]

higher than 31 you get stunnerino

[tropic summit]

ye that SG feedin' you

[covert lintel]

Go trina instead
You won't get stunned against that as it would be 1RL

[gritty ridge]

I wasnt stunned

[tropic summit]

i think he just wants to ensure his scarlet is siren resistant

[tropic summit]

it's a shame i've to kill this number for the sake of Ein

maybe she'll get some punishment 💢

[covert lintel]

If he changes sg to rl, go helmT scar trina liter, jackal

[gritty ridge]

Which of these feeds the least

[tropic summit]

those are all crappy, but the mrchad one at least has the least

problem is cindy in p1

just test in SParena

holy mother of god

[gritty ridge]

Any chance this is safe

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake what have I done

@umbral crown i've joined your ein ship

ein more invest than even my scarlet now

[covert lintel]

I always test everything in sp
All teams are the same in Rookie arena

[gritty ridge]

It was not safe

I didnt get to burst

[tropic summit]

you stunneroni?

what's her ammo atm?

[gritty ridge]

No everybody died

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

I am in deficit tbf

Lemme try with tempura cubes

[tropic summit]

bruh

after upgrading ein skills now she's even higher than cindy jesus le christ

MC about to get slaughtered

[covert lintel]

Won't win without rosanna against that team

[gritty ridge]

[covert lintel]

Especially in deficit like that

[tropic summit]

le mirror scarletto

[covert lintel]

[gritty ridge]

Scar died pre burst again btw

Helm burst

[covert lintel]

Try trina instead of rh

[gritty ridge]

Less cp

Die even faster, im not trying to win im trying to see if scar stuns

Ill dm him and see if he can put up a lower cp siren team

[covert lintel]

But trina gives your scarlet a 2s survival

[fast nest]

You have ammo option on Scarlet?

[gritty ridge]

I have specifically 32 ammo on scar

@tropic summit

[eternal finch]

DEF team lasted a good while, but now I am looking for another set to test. This team survived someone who is 50 levels above me.

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Rumani
Scarlet/Trina/Rapunzel/Maiden/Laplace
Vesti.T/Blanc/Helm.T/Centi/Jackal

[tropic summit]

looks about right

0/32, can B3

[gritty ridge]

Could we possibly pin that?

60.71 is max ammo line

Actually, could this be influenced by siren position?

Like how a p3 siren can stun p1 siren before p1 siren can stun

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit p5 siren cant stun

[terse dragon]

Critical Vesti is not bad

[umbral crown]

excellent

[umbral crown]

waos, thats i expect my Vesti to be in some time

[terse dragon]

[umbral crown]

but still no luck getting atk lines

[gritty ridge]

Hey yonexxi👉👈

[raven plover]

you have 8 crits?

[umbral crown]

like 5 or so

[terse dragon]

I also stagnated at 4ATK and 7 Crit, and the last crit never rolled out.

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

i have some black and blue crit lines but missing the atk

the rest of the lines are charge speed and ele

[vapid lake]

enough

Maybe not lv 461 clear but enough for 470-481

[swift mango]

Darn, flame thrower push forward at the end... I got 4 flamethrower first though.

[indigo path]

wuts this

[umbral crown]

cp pad team

[ivory crescent]

It’s the team meant to guilt you into not attacking

You wouldn’t hit Rei or Admi, now would you?

[indigo path]

hit em so fast

[vapid lake]

Yes i hit children

[late tiger]

7 crit? As in 7% or?!

[umbral crown]

7 crit lines

critical damage and critical rate

[terse dragon]

critical damage and critical rate

[late tiger]

Ahh ok

So that's worth it with vesti?
Also, any consensus on lines for her, including CS?

I am trying to get vesti to at least 15%+

[terse dragon]

My Vesti CS is 0%

[umbral crown]

neko build is different from most people

who will go cs, ele and atk

[late tiger]

From what i know, 5% and 20% line her rockets up with the 2nd shot

[late tiger]

Open for any playstyle

I just want her at 15% to get more options for 2RL teams

[umbral crown]

that also helps

actually mine is with ele, cs and crit lines

[late tiger]

What about ammo, wasn't it essential to have 2 for her?
Or is one maxed out enough/bastion cube

[umbral crown]

ammo is good, mostly for indom fights

[terse dragon]

CS is also a way, I tend to kill the other side before 3RL

[late tiger]

I saw, you put emilia prior to vesti

But my emilia is 25% so idk if wasted, if i do

[umbral crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1104858201368838217/1195687785248587927/lapbirbruns.gif

[terse dragon]

More than 21% of Emilia's second shot can't hit the Scar, so I gave up CS

[umbral crown]

so thats why yours is 12%

without the S1

[terse dragon]

15% now

It will be changed to 12% later, taking 4 ele and ATK, 2 Ammunition Capacity

[umbral crown]

i see

its a good choice

[spare nimbus]

Can bay protect from Cindy wipe?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[fast nest]

yay

[spare nimbus]

So instead of scarlet rapunzel trina emi helm I’m gunna try scarlet rapunzel trina bay helm and see how it goes

[umbral crown]

yeah

be creative, thats the key of pvp

[fast nest]

For those who want to high scores in minigame, hold 1 shotgun and 15 granade

[spare nimbus]

Also if I get my Noah to 21% cs and noise to 15% cs, noise will still be the one getting stunned right?

Rn I have Noah at like 15% cs and noise has no cs so noise gets stunned

But I want to raise my teams burst speed

[rich ledge]

Bay needs to burst to protect trina is bursting on ur setup

[spare nimbus]

Yeah I forgot that when I sent but i changed it

Thx

[rich ledge]

Oo but u are losing most of Trina buffs then can it still nuke?

[umbral crown]

he has to find out

[quartz rover]

what round

[fast nest]

it was 73 round.

1 shot 15 granade or 2 shotgun 14 granade.
Your choice. The logic is knockback and almost infinite stun.

[radiant coral]

I’m more concerned over the fact that someone built rei 😭

[keen vapor]

Ada cooking?

[indigo path]

[indigo path]

no idea i haven't checked any stats im sure she's doing great if im winning

[keen vapor]

you talk as if you weren't watching the battles

[quartz rover]

deficit is .785 x power right

[indigo path]

quick battle 4eva

[keen vapor]

[indigo path]

watchign battles

[keen vapor]

You did go a little too much I substract -15.4% from enemy team to check so you shouldn't multiply below eighty

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple you know the limits of power deficit right?

[hoary maple]

Yes

[umbral crown]

but... do you?

[hoary maple]

lol

[keen vapor]

.... not sure

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Check I must confess

Your Blanc Vesti team

I wasn't able to stun Blanc with Siren

[umbral crown]

because siren dying?

[quartz rover]

its .846

[keen vapor]

Correct

[keen vapor]

No, she stun but not before Blanc bursted

[hoary maple]

My SP defense teams are losing every day so I'm just changing them a bit each time to see what happens

[keen vapor]

But wouldn't it be better if I tell you how I beat it?

Let's see if I find the recording

[umbral crown]

vesti with high ele, ez

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple as everyone here can see, Anis (unfortunately) gets Indom buff and I don't know why

@coarse lake you think it may have something to do with Siren burst gen bug?

Nah, stun at 70 bullets left, it must be something else

[hoary maple]

It's because Anis is my dawg

[keen vapor]

Is a PVP mystery

[keen vapor]

What's the highest charge speed on that team of yours?

[vapid lake]

Wtf echo, its because anis is an sr unit and has lower base stats

It not a mystery

[keen vapor]

BLANC SHOULDN'T BE BURSTING

2RL can't

[vapid lake]

Ask him how much cs he have if he have a certain % on everything then b2 can burst before siren stun kicks in

Either way never put the sr anis on the same team with blanc or she will steal indom every single time, effortlessly

[keen vapor]

On everything? Even if that everything was a 3% ?

[vapid lake]

Only 3%? No way, need a lot more than that to burst faster than siren stun

[gritty ridge]

You look too purple

I dont like it

[vapid lake]

Put it into frame data calculator and get ur answer

https://nikke.work/

[keen vapor]

He can't breath

[hoary maple]

Anis 9.84%

[keen vapor]

10% enough?

[vapid lake]

Put into frame data calculator and get ur answer

[keen vapor]

It doesn't changes anything

[spiral onyx]

Then that's your answer lol

[keen vapor]

The answer is a mystery?
Back to the start....

[spiral onyx]

No, you literally input your teams into Nikke.work

And it will literally tell you the answer lol

Of "is 10% enough"

It will also tell you the answer of "is 9% enough, is 12% enough, is X% enough" etc

[frank spear]

[spiral onyx]

Siren stuns at a fix time

(unless taunted, then it could take longer, but even then you can figure that out using the timing of the taunting rocket and count Siren bullets from there till the stun)

[keen vapor]

My point is to solve the mystery on how Blanc gets to burst

I'm at this point expecting more heavy updates for Nikke.work bc of lack of inaccuracy (can't blame it since is made by players)

This and trying to get what CS is actually needed for Vesti and another unit to hit at the same time let's me find inaccuracies

[spiral onyx]

Wasn't your question about Siren stun timing?

[frank spear]

[spiral onyx]

Your second question of what CS is actually needed for Vesti and another unit to hit at the same time can be answered using Nikke.works by literally just playing around with charge speed numbers since it shows you the timeline

[keen vapor]

Siren doesn't need to burst

[spiral onyx]

Stun I meant, mistyped

[keen vapor]

Siren stun is an easy answer
How Blanc manages to burst with low CS isn't

[keen vapor]

And it wasn't accurate enough I repeat, bug wasn't happening, hence they actually weren't going at the speed needed based on the site

[spiral onyx]

I'm watching the video

I see no bug

You stunned Blanc before her burst, yes

But she comes out of stun before she dies

[keen vapor]

And indom happened

[spiral onyx]

What happens when she comes out of stun?

She bursts

See the new buff icon that gets added to Anis

[keen vapor]

The shield is Blanc skill?

[spiral onyx]

I assume this is Blanc's indom

[keen vapor]

Sus

[spiral onyx]

Video too blurry to see

Cause it only gets added after Blanc comes out of stun

[vapid lake]

?

If blanc gets stunned while the burst chain is active shouldnt the sr anis just burst instead

The only explanation here is blanc bursted first before the stun happened

[spiral onyx]

Oh true

[vapid lake]

And the only conclusion i can come to is the enemy tea has enough cs to burst before siren stun happens

[keen vapor]

Hence, Check could actually have invincible team but decided to put Anis in the wrong place

[vapid lake]

If check inputs all his units stats into the calculator and its wrong then it means the calculator might be wrong by a few frames

[vapid lake]

all he has to do is put jackal in p1 and eat siren feed and now that team is immune to stun shenanigans

And also move sr anis somewhere else so she doesnt steal indom

[keen vapor]

P4 the safest

[vapid lake]

No as in move her off to another team

[keen vapor]

ofc

[vapid lake]

The sr anis has less base hp than a b3 ssr attacker, never put anis on the same team as blanc

[spiral onyx]

Yeah, you just need high charge speed rolls on Anis, Vesti, and Jackal and you can burst before the stun

[keen vapor]

Highest CS was 9.84 Keripo, you can't cheat

[vapid lake]

I love how we're helping check fix his def so its harder for u to beat him

[spiral onyx]

No charge speed on other units?

[keen vapor]

all for PVP

[vapid lake]

wouldn't catch me helping someone whos in the same bracket as me

I'd wave byebye to them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1315694438319919174.webp?size=128&animated=true

[keen vapor]

Well, for starters I don't know if @hoary maple has rolled those units since that comp

[spiral onyx]

Actually it looks like all he needs is 8% charge speed on Anis and Jackal and an Adjutant cube on Anis

Or 12% on Anis, 8% on Jackal, and no cubes

[keen vapor]

Adjutant

[spiral onyx]

You guys don't use Adjutant?

[keen vapor]

I roll enough charge speed or I don't, no in-between (I use it for Maiden)

[spiral onyx]

Nikke.work is literally the best thing that has happened to Nikke PvP theorycrafting and y'all don't take advantage of it to min max

This is my 124f Scarlet team for reference. So a "1.63RL" instant nuke team

[swift mango]

I lack 2% CS on each of my RL in Vesti team aside from Jackal. Forced to use it.

[keen vapor]

That ain't getting second attack stack

[swift mango]

I used works and test again to see if it actually works. That's how I got my 3 synch Vesti. If following work alone it won't work.

A whole week for that. Fix cube, fix charge speed. etc
Then test position.
Bad luck with rock.

[spiral onyx]

Burst at 214f. 3 bullet every 30 frames, so 21 bullets

Just barely 2 stacks lol

[keen vapor]

I'm fixing electric units can't work on CS ATM
-# ↑already got a blue line in the process)

[spiral onyx]

Even if it's not perfect, it's still the best we've got

Lemme actually plug in the numbers into the burst damage calculator

[keen vapor]

Blood
Where's my CS

Blooooooood why getting attack is diabolically hard but can get ammo six consecutive times

Blooooooood
I hate rolling

[swift mango]

Anis would burst when Blanc is stunned. So she need to burst before she got stun.

just need 11% CS on Jackal, Anis and 5% on helm for that

[keen vapor]

And Anis has 10

[fathom rock]

Usable, you'll only know the answer when you try it yourself at 461-481

[swift mango]

Count again.

do the right rounding

[keen vapor]

No thanks, pretty sure an .84 will never become a +2

[crystal flicker]

Y'all need to join 1.5RL cult

[keen vapor]

At least with two lines

[swift mango]

it can.

[keen vapor]

Two

[keen vapor]

12% is a no no

[swift mango]

Send me your 2 lines. exact number. and if you had Adjustant on.

[keen vapor]

Can't know what cubes Check uses

[spiral onyx]

3.35mil dmg. So actually just enough to 1 shot unbuffed units. But if they have dolls and Tempering, it won't be enough

I should swap out Noise for XMica or someone

[keen vapor]

Only took what, 2 years? To have use again

[rich ledge]

Oo xmica is pvp meta now?

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[keen vapor]

2 years + Keripo specific needs

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina s enough, her passive gave big enough Atk boost to nuke even Cindy

[spiral onyx]

I used her in early CA before we got all the new batteries lights Helm+, Trina, Rumani, and Noah buff

[keen vapor]

MLB Mica is only mine

[spiral onyx]

The math says otherwise 🙁

[keen vapor]

So not really

[crystal flicker]

The match said otherwise

20% ATK / 10 ammo is beeg

[spiral onyx]

ATK ▲ 39.93% of caster's ATK for 5 sec

[keen vapor]

Why only five seconds Mica you don't even have CDR and Liter's five seconds got old since year started

[spiral onyx]

XMica is a support, so she's ~83% that of an attacker's base

[swift mango]

just use pepper tbh. 23% of scarlet should be almost 40% of Mica.

[keen vapor]

Max core Mica?

[spiral onyx]

83% * 39.93% = 33%

1 Scarlet stack is 23%

[keen vapor]

Max core Mica

[spiral onyx]

Pepper might actually be better here cause of the extra nuke

[swift mango]

Yeah, better than pepper and your scarlet has lots of ammo so she cleanse Siren stun too.

but if you don't need that, Pepper one shot from a whale is stronk

[crystal flicker]

■ Activates after landing 10 normal attack(s). Affects self.

ATK ▲ 23.15%, stacks up to 5 times and lasts for 5 sec.

Current HP ▼ 4.01%

30ammo gave you ~70% ATK, even more if you didn't use P1 Scarlet and goes to 50 ammo

[keen vapor]

He ain't slow in bursting

[echo magnet]

ello, whats the best pvp sp arena def now

[spiral onyx]

Cleansing Siren stun is a good point, then Scarlet can be P1

[keen vapor]

Keripo's one

[echo magnet]

is it in tagged message? i cant find any

[spiral onyx]

That said though, I have to check out how it actually performs. Noise buff is nice cause even if you don't 1 shot, you still sustain for a while and during that time Scarlet can do cleanup

[keen vapor]

You need 20% charge speed @echo magnet

[swift mango]

The team called, "100 synch above your opponent "

[echo magnet]

i mean for all 3 SP

[keen vapor]

One hundred is unrespectful to Keripo

[swift mango]

you don't need more than that. More is jspust extra

[keen vapor]

He only shared that

[keen vapor]

Outside of Keripo investment, there's nothing unbeatable

[crystal flicker]

It's enough
124f is 2s, burst delay till Scarlet is 1.5s
So it's 3-4 stacks for him

[echo magnet]

damn dont have vesti alt

[keen vapor]

Sad, she's very good

[radiant coral]

CA reshuffle when? I keep getting put up with whales

[safe flame]

I feel bad for this leviathan he lost to me in this crucial mirror because of just the wrong positioning of xmas anne he didnt get to burst 3

[cunning crown]

I'm in deep sympathies with him. All fully treasured vipers want a return on that investment

[lunar pawn]

@broken lark check spa

[broken lark]

ok lol

[lunar pawn]

also sup

[broken lark]

was watching lck

[lunar pawn]

[crystal flicker]

I just remember I haven't touched XAnne

[lunar pawn]

and you won't, unless you play CA

[crystal flicker]

Are you doubting my participation

[broken lark]

did my hit sorry was also helping union with coop

[lunar pawn]

am I

[lunar pawn]

cheers

this guy and 5k are coordinating so gotta do the same

[broken lark]

u mean 1k?

[lunar pawn]

yea that guy

[urban mulch]

pls send help against these

these are my usable cp wise

[lunar pawn]

Scarlet nuke his t3, you can stun his moran with siren too

Indom tvesti against any of his 2 other teams

Probably go for t2

[urban mulch]

roger that

hopefully enough cp

[urban mulch]

these look ok?

had to reattempt cause scarlet was in bad position but made it through

[rich ledge]

Nice this is stopping the attacks for now

[shell hazel]

but do they stack? ai can't do better than 8 😄

[bright talon]

Can someone help me set up 3 teams for PvP? I’ve only been playing for about a month, so I’m still kind of clueless about how to build them

[dreamy parrot]

@shell hazel I don't know what you did but my defence teams have been holding back a horde since you set up my team

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't think the teams we setup were amazing but think we didn't have the main units built so did what we could lol

[dreamy parrot]

yes but I went from like 0 defences to like 10

it was night and day

[shell hazel]

[dreamy parrot]

there was one bloke specifically I didn't believe got stuck trying to take me down

he had like 15% more cp than me

I have Quiry and Rumani now

no idea what to do with them

[shell hazel]

Rumani is just a general good b1 burst gen

Quiry skip

[dreamy parrot]

does she just replace Siren once she's strong enough?

[shell hazel]

she can do, though siren is probably good cp and adds her stun

[dreamy parrot]

doesn't that mean I just skip Rumani?

She has good burst gen

[shell hazel]

she won't fundamentally change your teams here, she's still worth having built though

LapT would be good as well

[dreamy parrot]

goddamn

[shell hazel]

you don't have new vesti right?

[dreamy parrot]

Sadly no

but I have her wishlisted

[shell hazel]

she'd def be worth having

trina also in wishlist as you miss her

[dreamy parrot]

I was about to ask about Trina

[shell hazel]

and noah

noah or bay for anti-nuke

[dreamy parrot]

bay?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bay-nikke-cheerleader-cheerleading-gif-14534353329378131724

[dreamy parrot]

I heard her treasure was bugged

and deadass made her weaker

[shell hazel]

nah it's good, they fixed it

she's not as good as noah but she should be easier to actually get

if you lack noah she is a good option to have available

she can also work without her treasure even but she needs to be on a fast team

[dreamy parrot]

so in terms of examples

LapT instead of RH
Bay instead of Naga?

[shell hazel]

you won't have much available yet I think you can use but is this for rookie or spa?

[shell hazel]

probably for DrakeT swap LapT in tbh

Bay not for Naga no you'd have to adjust teams further

Bay would need to be on a 2RL team

[dreamy parrot]

man I just got drake her treasure

[shell hazel]

she's decent. she works here still as she has good burst gen for a clip SG

and does some damage to go with it

she's not really a core pvp unit though we're just using her because she's high on your cp list

[dreamy parrot]

Right

[shell hazel]

with rumani built you could run slow cindy as well

which might be an idea as it doesn't have high burst gen requirements

comp for that is one of:
cindy mihara blanc biscuit rumani
blanc mihara rumani biscuit cindy

[bright talon]

Then please suggest me 3 teams for spa

[shell hazel]

that would free up high burst gen units for your other two teams

plus you get to use your fairly built mihara 🙂

[dreamy parrot]

She is quite built now 😎

[shell hazel]

it works by just being tanky and slow lol

I'm running it in my CA team atm

[shell hazel]

i'll take a look likely it's build 1 or 2 good teams and just auto the 3rd tbh

[dreamy parrot]

It's crazy on how much I don't get pvp, the only part I understand in the team is biscuit buffs defender

how does mihara even work?

[shell hazel]

she dies and dots enemies

you want her to die

[dreamy parrot]

skill 2 ok

pvp and pve is flipped upside down man

[shell hazel]

watch my slow cindy comp in action
https://youtu.be/MTNOTH32gRw?si=qFTcnE_b2fQhwXLZ&t=32

it beats a lot of stuff mainly loses to double buff scar if the scar crits/well built

[dreamy parrot]

my god, how do people even think of this

[bright talon]

Appreciate it! I just need stable teams to invest in since my resources are pretty limited

[shell hazel]

haha indeed, you could def run it as a team though and would free up some options for the other 2 teams prob

good to keep options open but also you can just wait for now if you're defending anyway

if you start being beaten then you could change one over to that and modify the others - you'll need to somewhat build rumani though
basic OL
4/4/4
SR-5 ideally or R-15 on blue ones for now

this also works because 3/5 of the team is defenders and biscuit makes them immune

blanc rumani and cindy are defenders for this purpose

[dreamy parrot]

I'll build it for sure

but I just don't have any resources

only hurdle is OL Rumani

thanks for the input

[shell hazel]

np, rumani good general b1 option anyway for any pvp team

even if you don't add her to def right now she'll be useful for attack teams

[fast nest]

Could I ask why cindy didnt die? rumani and blanc seemed to get Invincible by biscuit.

[shell hazel]

she's at p5 she's last to be hit

cindy eating through cindy decoy is rng

[fast nest]

I meant enemy cindy used burst.

[shell hazel]

yeah it's not easy to one tap cindy and their shots will rng on my team

may hit decoy, likely some went to mihara etc