#pvp-arena
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And the guys who played 2002 yugioh hate 2012 yugioh too. 
I wasnt alive for that one tbf
I guess the time I played yugioh is longer than your age.
I go on yugioh game thing, I load up a match with my humble dragon maid deck, I get killed turn 1
Its terrible
prydwen puts ada wong at pvp SS?
indeed, plain stale
no innovation, no QoL, only accidents and bugs spiced it up so far
Just play shadowverse
Yugioh right now is not fun
how is ada wong SS pvp
situational
can be SS in situation, may aswell be C on others
on Master Duel? Yeah Yugioh is unplayable
it's fine for TCG though
Make it fun, play pet decks like gusto
You will never catch me in a yugioh tournament.
wym, you already playing Nikke 
I still shower and go outside
well you have to go outside to play with other people too 
only shut in don't shower

hmm anyone gonna use ada wong in CA this time?
bold of you to assume they actually go to the toilet
"Wow you have so much lemonade in your room"
Noise is the same burst gen as other normal rl now right?
Yeah
Is just i remember she was one of the slower one
Shes slow compared to clip rl
I remembered how a guy on Reddit was interested in my Gusto deck and asked how it played. Then be like, "ah man it's just another first turn lock like all other deck". 
No shit Sherlock, blame Konami for making synchro monster good at negate. 
Its what I gotta do to win against these sweats man
If I play a deck? Bad shuffle everytime. If my opponent plays the same deck? Perfect shuffle everytime
almost sounds like what RNG does
play cards: complain RNG doesn't give em good rolls
just play 40 good cards 
I get good rng literally everywhere else
Oops, 5 monster cards that need sacrifices to be played
if you cannot vomit your hand then they are not good cards 
Youre right
just use highest win ratio deck 
35 pot of greed 5 exodia pieces
If the deck doesnt have red eyes darkness metal dragon im not using it
if the deck doesn't have hot women I don't play it 
Thats why I play dragonmaids

nikke TCG when
not that i'd play it because it probably would suck

childhood crush 
looks pg-13 to me
Nikke already has TCG. It even has a board game 
with acryllic stands as the pieces so ofc you get to stare at their ass from behind 

no 
not on burst at least
she is a way to buff Scarlet though if you can't use RH B1 because you have to put Jackal in p1 for whatever reason
or maybe Scarlet is too fast and you don't actually get her buff 
hmmm thanks for the heads up but id still get one of her copy just in case
How does she buff scarlet if her buff is on fullburst and scar nukes before
Could work on scar indom tho
Scar too fast 
If she buffs the s2 dmg
would need helm, also a bit far away from the ideal 96-97%, would need some RNG on s2 to promote to 2RL
this is a rookie team at best
at that point might aswell just 2RL vestiTU or ada herself as she can partially bypass
Can anyone help me with teams for sp arena? I don’t have any favorite items yet
@gritty ridge time to shine
Please send your roster sorted by power
Just mainly the characters in first picture are invested in and the rest have some dolls or aren’t leveled
Nvm only the first one has dolls
I’m actually using the bottom team on here and it’s broken
I switch over to this one or do we maybe see if railtracer can help?
If rail decides to help his teams will most likely be better
Idk if it helps but I’m mainly looking for teams to invest in since most of the characters are unbuilt, I saw characters like vesti and centi being really good on prydwen, should I be using those?
They are good choices to invest in, yes
but you should push campaign teams more first
or primary one anyway to reach further there
you can go pretty far in pvp with a good core of pve built as well, at least for power/sync
Build rrh, rh, crown, mmast, and liter first
What do you beat this team with?
this is a good list of units to work on for pvp
it is but I don't think you can spare the resources this early on in sync
Kinda stuck on campaign rn with this big cp dif
but since I’m currently challenger 4 in my bracket, I kinda wanna solidify my teams a bit
and some of these are also not really for basic pvp players (stuff like Moran)
as for priority however dps still comes first then supports/tanks second
are the skills largely maxed out?
So long as your Noah CS isn't bricked. You should beat this easily.
Or just use
Jack+Vesti+Blanc+helmT+Centi/emi/Lap/ada
if you've maxed out skills and OL some you can move to some pvp invest
I’ll work on those
crown is 10/10/10
liter is at least 7/7/7 (siren replaces when you get her)
RH is 10/10/10
Rapi is 10/10/10
Naga 7/7/4 prob fine
They’re all at 9-10 besides liter and naga at 7
OL levels?
everyone should be on +2 minimum after adding a rock
DPS boost gloves/helm more than chest/boots
supports other way around
What are you talking abt here
just basic OL should be minimum
OL levels for main units
+2 lvls on each gear takes a shit ton of xp
I have a total of 2 units with overload gear upgraded
not really
Like upgrade the OL gear to +2?
it adds up
it's cp for your main team, why wouldn't you?
oh if its for main campaign team then its whatever
Hippo you are an interesting advice giver
Oh everyone’s at 0, I was thinking to save in case I get more gear to OL
I do as well but I'm talking about main campaign team here
H / C / G / B levels
I'm not done here yet, I don't use everyone equally as Naga is lower
Guantes
+1 or +2 is worth doing on all core campaign units if you can
qué?

Update? 
My main campaign units dont have gear levels other than rapi, which i did as a mistake early game
i only really upgraded my main dps campaign units like rapi sbs helm
then you're 🧱 somewhat bigboi 😛
supports can stay at +0
Don’t really understand that but besides rrh, I have a couple OL gear on crown and naga, do I +2 them?
Bigboi got the news
How am I bricked
yes it's additional cp
for no skill book or doll costs
News?
and you use them all the time, no reason not to, +2 is relatively cheap to do
No longer pic limit
you've become an MA
Oh yeah, I figured that out as soon as it happened
I was the first to point it out
where your cp at?
so now we can upload 7 pictures, in a single post, of chime?


Whale is clapping me
380k
relatable
Frenzy if you got new gear to OL prioritise it but otherwise just +1 all main units in turn
Also any particular units I should wishlist for pvp that aren’t here?
it works 
Gonna get smacked by mods for spam
and then later +2, you can go further later if you want but damn +1 is barely anything and +2 isn't that much more 😛
+3 onwards gets more costly
bold of you to assume mods look at this chat more than 5 minutes a day
gonna wait till reset and see if i get any lucky drops if not then I upgrade

Im farther than most other players at my sync wdym
Im almost on gluttony

you're missing at least a few k cp by not improving on the overloaded gear at all
Yknow what?

for a team you run on all campaign content it seems counter-productive not to
Id rather put my fodder xp towards more pvp units getting overloads
in a week or less I think you could +2 all 5 main units
I could do that, or i could fully overload a new unit
Also i cant have my cp too high I need to have my lowest boss clears
self bricking 🧱
speaking of I think my clear of 31-35 was one of the lowest ones in the end
random vesti comp everyone else was using alice
Is that 3rd cc?
I believe in you
Whats ur sync?
If your cindy is super strong you should be able to make it
nah barely anyone is at this level
also I'll just be stuck early in next chapter anyway, good time to 
43% deficit nothing to worry about
I found @wicked horizon presumably for this clear?
Yo is that lynk?
it is 🙂
Crazy seeing him in the wild
yeah haha
if ada is an SS in pvp does that mean she will become a near essential for champion arena or at least highly important?
Ayy, SAnis represent. 😎
Would Ein be better than SBS in jackal blanc team?(except vesti tac)
Is an option, back at Emilia release she was highly important bc we had fewer options, but now we have Vesti tactical up which is easy accessible
Get one copy to have more options 
good to know & thank you for the help 
SBS seemed not to nuke enemies right away.
Well, she per se doesn't nukes while ein does, give it a try
good times we used to cook with anis and neon 
Last season, my 2RL SBS team lost against 3RL cindy team. 
Better to nuke with Scarlet Trina than get Indom early 
My scarlet team was on different place. So I am considering to replace SBS to other unit(except vesti).
Would there be other option except Ein?
Send the def you're trying to beat
don't be shy
Nah. It was CA
Ah
Because of it, I lost.
ReiT

Before trina. She had stronger aoe than scar
But trina pooped her 
Some jp got wins with her in ca back when
Won nero Moran. Ele to kill rapu and blanc debuff
Rei? Evangelion?
Yeah
Aoe + single target
, but sbs is multi target 
Prob wouldnt reccomend though these days though
Damn no asukaw for pve too 

siren is annoying
get 11%CS team, no longer a problem
or use B1 in p1 on 2RL
I suppose I could give my helm charge speed
hey would you look at that
was going to run this
but siren 🙁
what's biscuit doin' there
you want a siren resistant team, it needs to be b1 in p1 on 2RL
that team above, assuming opponent runs 0 feed team, will not be 2RL but 2.5RL
that's because you running biscuit instead of clip RL
ah I see
so if I just run rumani, trina, centi then I probably hit rl 2
if I run rumani can I just put her in p1?
or does it not really matter
ah
which can screw your indom odds depending on dmg they inflict
since your B1 is flex anyway, it doesn't matter
that you run jackal in p1 i mean
so if I were to run this, would the noah be able to just eat my sbs thats indomed?
noah is not under biscuit, that team will eat your SBS once noah shield is down, the other issue although is that you'll be denied partially by siren as she'll stop you in the middle of indom for a few seconds
to deal with that team just run
jackal noah rh helmt biscuit
try jackal bay rh helmt biscuit, quantum on jackal, record it 
Blanc mihara rumani biscuit cindy?
They have single target dmg
slow cindy might do it
I dont have mihara
also is it just me or they fixed attract taunt type?
Can replace mihara with something low gen
noah is now taunting units even not in p1 or p2
Yeah
Attacker to tank helm snipe
by the way the one ran with bay, is that good vs nukers? or was it just specifically to stall vs noah
what can I use here?
that's good indeed against nukers, the reason you lost here is outsustained
so what if I ran it vs a scarlet team
box

quick question, is VestiTU better than SAnis if I used Sanis on a Noah def team?
was recording this but then nikke crashed mid battle
vestiTU has more pressure than s.anis
on def, she can definitely play better
s.anis remains better backstabbing situationally
cool! thank you!
did it win in the end? looked like it baited correctly
yeah
@glad meteor
getting the indom going would be better, but you're still nuking with cindy once noah shield is down, so they eat the whole thing
oh that's interesting
Nice win
how do you do a slow cindy anyway
just like you did
Also helm is water. Link is pooped
4RL-5RL cindy with biscuit and blanc involved can be a slow cindy
Use biscuit to tank in p1, then burst after noah ends
the point is the team needs to survive to burst, that's where biscuit cindy and rumani come in
funny as the other team next to yours is basically the same one but helmT instead of Anis and it cleared with the same cp and the same sync, so it seems s.anis is not required here
you got at least 1 copy right?
yes
Who do yall think wins
I'm going to farm the rank 1 guy in my rookie to antagonize him to attack me in spa some more
he stopped 4 days ago
you're ded
you win (but you might die)
Why do you say that
24% deficit, good luck
it's linked units on deficit 
wait, how did I sack red hood anyway
Siren isnt linked
what is hitting her? missiles?
enemy helmT B3
ahhh
do they look like they need to burst with siren?
and since she's unlinked it just kills her
your helmT is also eating naga on 24% deficit
Ill toss a potshot at it, if I lose ill just obliterate their other 2 teams
sounds great
possibly involves your bready against a non-dumb team
I can use bready against the guy who stole my spot
oof
but respect for picking a good opponent matchup, that was a good test
you're in time to just run ada indom instead 
(if you get her and build her)
or the vestiTU 
roll bready ammo would indeed fix it a bit
miranda did not win the 3rd round 
your scar is slightly ammo bricked and ate a siren stun too lol
My scar has literally no ammo lines
Want like 30 ammos worth to get 3 stack of attack
Ohhh I see what happened, they must've rolled attack on their siren recently
It used to be helm and rapi linking
oh I was reading it backwards lol
i'm ill and stupid atm 😄
Get better

Whats the recommended mihara invest
7 7 4 min
eco is 7/5/5, if you wanna splurge you can 10/10/10


is sr5 fine
If youre only using her in pvp, I would 10 10 4 at most
Yes
i am only using her in pvp yeah
you can R15, she just needs to die afterall
Her chains scale off of atk tho, so doll levels increase her dmg
(if you're short on dolls)
Her lines dont matter in pvp
Btw rail, power and emi are abt the only 2 collab units used in pvp, right?
Idk what their skill requirements are so they're holding back my guide


he's actually a senpai
makima is also used, although she has fallen off compared to units like moran and nero
2b was used as pseudo scarlet
I can manage 2b skill levels myself, but what would you say reccomended min and max are for makima, power, and emi?
ask @swift mango about makima and power, he's a big chainsaw man fan he surely knows
as for emi she needs skill 1 + OL to hit 21% ideally (or 38% for maximun), this especially if used as battery
if used as offburst or main B3, 7/10/10
is anyone actually using power?
Is this max invest?
I assumed she had some use
very niche i wouldn't
Im just making a guide for all the pvp unit skill invests
@tropic summit instead of crushing my current non-champ arena bracket into fine powder, I would say now I reduce them into thin mist
think of those poor peasants feelings 
you're better off using better burst gen units over Power, I agree
@keen vapor better hurry up
Now I can run same ish team as @shell hazel but in different order, so the power of friendship shall go thru regardless
i guess no one reads the pins eh? they're a mess
that's a tad gay
Id already talked with echo in here abt the guide
trust in the power of friendship 🤝
we can say gay now?
surprised myself 
can we say a certain mango president?
Ill probably just dm the list to echo for him to put into sheets and upload as a guide if I get denied for MA again
hmm alright. I know Echo was working on one for a while but not sure what the progress was. The rest of us gave up on making a comprehensive guide a while ago
Im not including overloads so he could add that to it for a collab guide
auto tribe tower from 401 to 434 so far though I had to manual 430 due to train and the ai ignoring the missiles 😄
The auto normally does the opposite for me
I try to shoot the train and it tries its best to make me shoot missiles
My Moran burst and Nero ss1 is only 9 tho, but I have more copies so results should be similar
But then my tempura cube ain’t very raised
I need more cube levels in general
Should I get lvl 8 temper or is 7 enough?
tempura to 15
I need to upgrade quantum
tempura = 15
quantum to 7 or 8 should be enough, tempura is general damage reduction so I'm boosting mine some
anyone wanna rate my champs team :3
3rl stall 
thats what being emiless and laplaceless does to a mfer
i followed the pin teams but i dont know who to put in the last spot for the last team because theyre already in other teams. can i get suggestions on who to put?
these are the units i dont have
I just ran into jackal noah biscuit ein ada
and it worked weirdly enough
It must have been a 2.5 RL team and my rosanna didn't one shot
scarlt nuke didn't hit
that team isnt even in deficit
You got vestiT you can use her
even the good ol scar double buff 2RL would wipe 15-20% deficit vs cp teams with no noise or noah
I just threw something random to make the cut
I would do like VestiT, naga (for CP if you’re worried about that), RH, helm and jackal
@lunar pawn
vesti won't link
Oh right
i assume ur scar is shit then
what team are you thinking?
scar trina rh helm jackal
nvm team placement, doesn't meet cp requirement
Usually if your team is good, you can do well with 1.6m CP
not so bad
only below 20%
rh b1 first instead of jackal
now idk what ur scar investments are or if even ur trina is invested at all
wait scar isnt gonna be linked is she
how do I keep my team alive before nuke though at deficit and no invincibility buffs? 
u dont
u kill them at 2RL or u die if u dont
jackal link + trina s2 should make scar p1 tanky enough even at deficit
i would know cuz i regularly run scar 2RL at deficit in my rookie as well
They can nuke pretty fast
Before any one of your units die
Should be a fun test
if scar isnt linked drop thelm and put in another battery instead
like another clip RL who wont have higher atk than scar
Any recommendations for teams for sp arena based on what I have?
ah whatever just do it
team will get fed to 2RL or faster regardless
its rookie anyway
try noise noah vesti helm jackal
Drake is prob doin most of the damage on jackal
cp is even worse, so no
how much
This man 💀
maybe?
how bricked r ur pvp investments man
go 
Whats Blanc, VestiT, Biscuit, Helm, and Jackal looking like?
Bad
What’s the number
Not good
If it’s above 1.6m I think it’s fine
You also thought scarlet team was fine
I did but then I forgot about his drake
💳 💳 works too
just outwhale him atp lmao
The only question I have right now is if his helm were to burst, will he out DPS your vesti’s true damage
I would try it but if you’re not sure then just don’t go for it
4 sg and 1 rosa
Get RH, DrakeT defense attack and feeds Jackal
is this CA going to be like when Mihara came out and everyone in here was saying she was niche/whatever but then everyone was using her that season
trying to fit Ada in but her being B3 makes it really annoying
I need 3 pvp teams im so buns at this
This is the situation I am in.
FYI, if you see "Pocket" in the upcoming bracket, do not cheer for me 
Stuck having to make severely underpowered teams with passable pvp characters or make teams with bad pvp characters with good investment.
can i get some help with ca teams?
Here's what I came up with. any suggestions?
Normally used teams are following:
Scarlet Trina Redhood/Soda/Siren Anis Centi
Noise Noah Biscuit Cindy Rumani
Bsoda DrakeT Xanne/PoliT/Naga Rosanna Noir
Jackal SBS/VestiTac Blanc Siren/Ada HelmT
etc.
You can make variation, such as adopting emilia or Xmaiden.... or swap some unit between teams.
Nero Moran and Bay seems not an option for now.
thanks
@swift mango @keen vapor @tropic summit Hi. Can please help make a SP arena defense team for me.
these are my current teams
You should join my CA group fr
Well well well, look what the mustang dragged in
I just need better teams im falling to diamond 2 now aaaaaaaaaaaa
Your team 3 is the only bad one
How much cp would you gain on it if you hit auto?
idk man alice rated my teams 4/10 
Who?
alice hairpin dude
oh well
Like I said tho, how much of a gain do you get from hitting auto on team 3?
373k to 547k

Your team cp is kinda low for your sync, im guessing pvp units have very low invest
im losing to sync 281s so 
You would be losing to me
Your jackal is no doll, right?
yes no doll
You cannot use her for indom then
Ill let one of the better cooks work their magic tho cuz im busy atm
i can't invest more into pvp rn unless its one of the ones that can be used in soloraid im aiming for 3% next soloraid
Any attack teams that I can use for these SP Defenses? I have about a 20-30k deficit for each one LOL I have almost every unit
Blanc VesTac RH Biscuit Centi
Cindy Noah 2RL
Scarlet Jackal 2RL
what CA group?
is this team beatable? vesti-noah-helm-siren-jackal
seems to have much good stuff
maybe something of a jackal pos1? but CP gap is big
does anyone use SAnis for CA anymore?
How much def build is this noah @swift mango 

1 damage even though she didn't burst
Deficit?
Astha 
Some people do
Nope, Siren will stun Jackal before she can use her Burst
No she wont
2rl means b1 is safe from siren, depending on his team cs even noah is siren safe
Really? That's odd, I face a similar composition and my Jackal is stunned before entering B1
My comp is also 2RL 
2rl sureeee
if you throw it into nikke deck and the result 2rl then it's bullet whiff otherwise, it's just in your head.
Then Jackal isn't stun before but after she bursted. In this match up. 
Ok I'll look at it more closely tomorrow
ofc she would be stun, there is no stun immunity in p1.
It's fine so long as she bursted.
No, I just want to see if she burst before being stunned
Is little mermaid good in pvp? Better than rapunzel?
Because all this time I felt like she was stunned before using her Burst
Different usage. Rapu is more crucial for certain comps.
I have all the PVP units except for Emilia, and I already saw the PVP list but there’s better teams to create than the ones I have?
Can you help me with a rapu comp? I am trying to run it on the special arena
@swift mango don’t laugh 🥹 help me plz
Nero Moran HelmT Rapu Xmaiden
SBS+Blanc+Rapu+flex+flex
Take it or leave it.
If your shotgun team is well invested you can use B soda, Xmas Anne, Rossana, Drake and Noir, and replace that team 1
I mean yes, what team isn't better than the one you have? Unless your Arena units aren't invested at all. 
The problem is the CP, you aren't beating that 462 guys with your bricked account.
Thanks man. Will try these
hmm, so put some sacrificial pos1? what can it be?
nero need 107x max doll, Moran need xx10.
Apparently I'm wrong and Jackal will use her Burst before being stunned, so you could replace Biscuit with Siren to stun Vesti and waste Helm's burst during Noah's invulnerability
question if rosanna and jackal r on same team and rosa is linked and jackal takes dmg from link, does that dmg remove her concealment buff?
My Current special arena teams are:
Drunk Scarlet, Siren, Trina, Centi, Jackal
Blanc, SBS, Biscuit, T: Helm, Liter
Rapi: Red Hood, Crown, Cinderalla, Summer Dororthy, Alice (Just highest cp characters at the moment)
Now I just got Summer anis limitbroken and the new ade limit broken and I have some other characters, so Im wondering if I could possibly make a good third team/ just improve on my current ones
but then that will be the same team just diff posiotion and i will run big CP deficit tho, does it work? maybe
is there any replacement for emilia in that vesti team or nah
No reason to brust with ada or mana. And you should use Anchor as placeholder, so more precise burst gen.
Yeah, you need to test to see if it works
How Strong is Ada in Arena Rn?
Bursting with ada so I can use vesti on absoulute team because I couldn't figure out what to do for a 5th team so its this
A clip RL, its too low without somethin fast there
bursting with HelmT is better though.
Like if I put vesti on the blanc team instead of ada to burst with idk what I'm doing for a 5th team, I could do nero moran helm rapu lap but that dies to a lot of things anyway
whys that
Ada basically got blocked by biscuit
how the hell did that team not proc biscuit invul on noah preburst
She does too much damage to proc biscuit

no i mean before ada burst
before burst? they were shooting noise and not noah
u mean xmaiden and helm and blanc were all shooting noise preburst?
thats kidda what it seems like to me but quality is a little blurry
It needs to be all star aligned to win then.
While Ada could one shot Noah you need to be sure other units doesn't trip Noah to biscuit first. And ofc your Ads having enough investment over theirs.
or was it something like 1 shot on noah and then enemy noise burst then they all shoot on noise or smt but thats liek 1 RL
or wait
Its not the full fight
Just showing right when the burst happens
it was noise heal who healed noah to full during FB but after that since everyone is dead nobody is proccing biscuit 2nd invul on noah
ig that tracks
but atp if ur just stalling noah invul with blanc u may as well just run like vesti and it would do the same thing
Thats my point though, idk what the 5th team would be for CA
I'm just throwing absolute squad to see if it can kill some teams before they burst
Are you using synch shot Vesti+Emi(+lapT) and hope to win without even burst?

Because that looks like the only way that team gonna with to me.
pretty much that and eunhwa does a lot of damage
Nero moran helm rapu lap just gets countered by a lot of things now because vesti
You aren't counter nero with that team, LapT burst wont even kill a fly.
lap is there to get sacked wym
She won't die.
isnt laps dmg frfom her autos
Nero team doesn't have the dmg to kill p1 before burst
Oh you're saying when its fighting that team, I only brought that team up because I dont think its good to run anymore, lap will get sacked by the other CA teams, so basically 1 in 5 I'm hoping she doesn't run into the nero moran
I did have a version running a defender on p1 but its 4RL
lap won't get sack vs Sg team hitting your p5 either
probably not Cindy team with biscuit and 3 other non attacker rl too. But this depending on investment.
I guess I can swap the posions of lap and emilia since emi would die quicker
she doesn't have SR 15 doll
I mean Emi burst is worse than lapT

I'm saying to sack emi though
Also, if P1 got killed in 3rl and they had Siren, your p2 would be stunned and can't burst.
LapT looks still better to me. I guess. 
I was thinking of nero in p1 but its 4RL
Point of the team is to just kill before burst anyway
So I thought, I can either go all in on killing before burst or do nero to make sure vesti bursts if the team ever makes it to that
yea thats the point of the trio
kill them before fb cuz of all the buffs vesti gets from emma eunhwa
if she doesnt kill them ur dead
same shit with sg team
altho now i wonder if trio team can win vs biscuit teams
Yeah thats like the one thing I was thinking is going to not be good but CA is rock papaer scissors anyway

like vesti can damage the heck out of 3 units before burst but if its like defender defender biscuit then shes shooting air
man I hope
Guys is vesti plus ada a good combo for pvp
It works but you get the same effect from vesti blanc and get an indom vesti
Ohhh is there any sample of that comp
naga anchorIM cindy rumani drakeT
noah biscuit rrh sbs centi
grave ein helmT RH bsoda
notes:
- quantum as for picture attached to ensure you hit 3RL threshold in T1
- trina, centi, noise, rumani, jackal, scarlet, biscuit, noah are fairly low on CP, build them up asap
- get your teams reviewed once the above are better built (dolls, skill as recommended, OL, aim 3 OL lines per piece)
Jackal blanc biscuit vesti helmT is a version of it
Biscuit version protects it from rapi indom
ada tanks your speed so it's hard to fit her in proper teams, she can work in rookie where you can overcomit to a team
Jackal VestiTU Blanc Centi Emilia is another version of it, if you are attacking I believe you can do lapT instead of emilia and use some Quantum cubes and jackal feed should give you the rest of the burstgen for 2 RL
also you kinda want some CS on vesti for better burstgen
Any version that has HelmT should be able to get it to 2RL with another good burstgen unit on the team
if you dont have the vesti CS that is
60% atk and 60% true dmg are much more than 40% dmg taken.
unless vs moran
Is this comp for atk or def?
Idk, feel like we are missing something. 
Sth in that 111% bother me. 
Both, the biscuit version is safer.
Also any suggestion comp for atk side for sp arena
How goes the testing lol
Somethings not right
Ada's supposed to increase VestiT's dmg
I think my numbers are just way too whack that it's hard for me to test
She doesn't increase Vesti burst dmg. Only the AtK after
On paper at least Ada should be a really good passive support for VestiT
Ah, RIP
Well, still good
But not worth trading off Centi for
@swift mango what is missing?
Especially if Centi synch her shot with Vesti and Ada doesn't
as a side note you don't need helmT in the indomless variation
assuming someone badly wants to run ada anyway
You could use LapT (newly better burst gen) or Emi to synch their shot with Vesti. Better than bringing HelmT a SR.
I'm trying to cook a "budget" CA team for guildies using Ada and I'm just not seeing an viable angle
ah yes, the synch shot easy-to-achieve solution 
Like she's not bad, but she's not game changing
this is reasonable, teams are still thirsty for burst gen
Versus using a burst gen battery
we need more units like helmT to afford using weaker burst gen buffers
If this was like half a year ago she would be strong. A passive buffer that is regular RL
But now we have enough burst gen batteries that it's hard to justify going half an RL slower for that buff
Even without Emi, synched shot with LapT still stronk
what CS% are you running on laplaceT and vestiTU atm?
Secret 
so 11 or 15
I ran into a jackal noah biscuit ein ada team and it actually gave me trouble, I think he had enough CS for it to be 2.5 because my scar didn't nuke the team, my rosanna failed to one shot.
Ein and ada both SR 15 though
is there really no way for me to go further ?
you're CP gapped
that's an hard stop in most cases
thank you so much
i will take note on what to build 
Speaking of that, I figured out how to win my attacks CP gaped, but idk if I can defend against him
You got any ideas for defense against cp gap to try?
defense against opponent with CP advantage generally should not work 
they just need to commit to 2 teams with CP pad
The power of triple synched shots. 
isn't this just bug abuse?
May as well make it feature.
pvp arena is already sh*t as is, not sure we wanna promote bug abuse
a totally working as intended feature
Well, it would be fun if they called this feature. Like the ranger finish move when they shot the enemy together. 
New things to teach the newbies about.
Honestly what isn't a feature in pvp
With on hit effects hitting twice

Do they ever bug fix pvp
It applicable in PvE as well. So could make synched shot technique an official feature of the game. It has been around like forever we just discovered it now because Vesti.
the QoL would've a stroke if it knew the state of pvp in this game
to put it mildly...
spaghetti code: official feature 
synced shots is like what 11% cs
Vesti could synch at all charge speed it's the other units CS needed to be adjusted when her CS went up
Other RL units could deal more DMg with synched attack too ofc but only Emi, LapT and Vesti had enough normal attack dmg before burst for it to be noticeable.
Use Nikke.deck and rookie to adjust your testing.
check how it rounds up exactly from here, more reliable https://nikke.work/
Idk what I'm looking at 
click on laplace and vestiTU, add them to your lineup, click on them individually and add your CS% per piece, see what's the total CS% then returned
oh yeah I did that
I wouldn't try to build around it, it's a bug so it's likely getting patched at some point
if both align, you've achieved what blood mentioned
Like the CS needs to be the same?
it took SU months to fix noise initially, this is gonna stick around for a while for sure
idk what you mean by align
My team is still 2rl indom if it doesn't kill. 
Could I get some help with building champion arena?
here's where I'm at so far...
Too bad each of my units lacking 2% CS so I had to use Adjustant instead of tempering or Quantum.
My last 21+ Rock were all for nothing locking line 1+3 for a line 2 that never dropped.
Not even hit rate.
Yup, looks like it can 2.5RL-ish and Noah burst before Scarlet with enough investment, but its really tight
zero buffer Ein aside from Ada though is pretty bold
we tested this already, ada buffs ein's nuke
yeah, but its still a single buffer
I guess Ada buffs both atk and true dmg, so its like a double buffer
No way Noah burst before Scar in 2.5rl team that doesn't even have LapT, HelmT, Emi or Vesti. 
They could be 2rl with Feed though
ye it's a pretty good buff
Scarlet trina hood centi anis
B.soda drake naga noir rosanna
noah noise biscuit cindy xmaiden
blanc helm rapunzel viper jackal
5th team idk what you can do honestly.
for nuke and post damage
Just 17% charge speed and quantum cube on everyone 
I barley killed it with indom vesti lol
That's only enough for B1 before Scarlet.
It was the wild west with vesti and noah
your opponent dabbles pretty well in le kitchen
ah he doesn't know what hes doing, he cp pads and throw random stuff together on third team because he doesn't know wtf to throw in it lmao
ok maybe he doesn't afterall 
oh but yeah Im looking at a mirror team, not against a 2RL Scarlet team
he has kept the third team in the jackal biscuit version
part of why I arent convinced Ada has a place in CA until we get more units like Helm who negate the need for burst gen batteries
He has tried blanc, noah, bay
by far the most annoying was the noah version
because it surprised me with the 2.5
and rosanna didn't one shot

usually she does
Jackal-Noah-Biscuit-Ein-Ada is definitely strong... but its a 3RL team without crazy charge speed and Quantum cubes
in a world where you can build 3x 2RL teams in SP Arena
I guess they are preparing for Earth getting destroyed by a nuke clear war.
yes this is just a situational team

The end is near guy, try to get CA champ once before Nikke server and your life server closed down.
there's probably better things to do if the end is near rather than CA 
A tenth section involves experiments prepared by students from various schools of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
Thats actually pretty neat
I think you guys might find the last team funny, I was testing something
This is against the cp gap guy
Usually lap gets sacked in time but I was testing anchor which actually saved her from being sacked
I was hoping lap would get sacked and then anchor would go off
Need help here
Is this what is called a sync shot?
4/5 is still more solid since only need 3 W's are needed to advance
any recommendations on who i should build/secure to help get that 5th team?
t1 scarlet trina siren centi jackal
t2 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
t3 skip
also, this happened when I was changing the teams for champions...
(yes, it's the same person in SP arena who wants my champion arena spot for next time)
i won't support bug abuse, use it at your risk
your opponent:
what is this 
if he beats me (again), i may request assistance in Special Arena as well...
this #pvp-arena message
My cs is like that already
reported 
Look
Even my emi and lap+ are like this
clear bug abuse, already banned, it was nice knowing you 
it's bayover 

ada being powerful in arena is really surprising
How can you call that bug abuse when i already have that since long ago
i mean there was people getting banned for running defense teams that were abusing "bugs" they didn't know about anyway 
but don't worry it was mostly abused by large unions to vote the same lad
@tropic summit I changed my CA teams slightly: 2x 2RL teams (scar jack, noah vesti). 1x 2.5RL SG team no rosanna though. 1x cope 3RL team with xmaid nuke and last one is slow cindy. Did I burn the kitchen? 
NA union?
t1 would love to be at least 2.5RL to ensure a minimun of nuke resistance
t2 a bit weird but has pressure
t3 position needs to be fixed:
jackal siren trina anis scarlet, why? you want to avoid siren in p1 as iron element is generally less exposed to ele weak units, jackal also has better defensive stats and can let you more easily survive, siren in p2 still serves same purpose of being tauntable and stunning taunters, scarlet in p5, as linked unit, can get you feed from SGs
t4 this team loses important early pressure and snowball to become a generic fast p1 or p5 hitting team (due to being rosannaless)
t5 this one wins several archetypes for little cost, will do fine
can anyone help me with sp team building? got some new nikke
Who was that? 
Something something Nikke.work isn't the exact result. You need to test in Rookie to see if it actually applied. Like my Vesti synched in Nikke.work without Adjustant but I needed that 2% for that to actually work.
Nah, I'm not an expert to do that
I just get a lot of cs then become capybara
was back when reporting was implemented on arena
some dude got reported by multiple unions because one guy didn't like him but he had connections
turned out he got banned for a few days
Now time to report back for that one guy to get banned. 
Thanks a lot for the feedback
I'll get to fix then. I won't build rosanna before NY because too many pilgrims and limiteds release. I want to keep sub 0.5-1% in SR 
pettiness and toxicity at its finest 
CA is just a flex mode, keep it as a side job 
Btw does Sora dispel work vs the first bubble application from Siren?
Mass report automatically banned ppl?
Is this Instagram or what
I've been malding SR and UR 
Gotta get those batteries
appearently there was although a basis on the report, a "bug" abuse in arena
but credibility in those things is hard to verify
might aswell been just an excuse
the real funny thing of all of that is that he actually got banned
goes to show how power in numbers can be effective
Btw rail would it be worth it to swap my grave in T1 with manchor? Less nuke more heals but still 3RL, cant get down to 2.5 without charge speed 
jackal siren trina scarlet drakeT
noise noah s.anis helmt rapu
blanc emilia rh biscuit centi
- wishlist rumani, can get your teams upgraded then
- build vestiTU or laplaceT if units are available
ye sure sounds fine
ok thanks, ya trying to get laplace dups, rumani & Vesti T
My manchor is so stacked with SR15 and dupes, she's top 8 CP of all of my units 
Isn't M.anchor not very useful recently? Idk if I wanted to pull for her in new year selector.
She has been phased out of SR because mmast crown hyper carry works better
But I'm not high invested enough and my c7 sbs alice is still carrying neutral, so I use both maids there. And I cope that manchor will still be relevant once I'm at black snake and ziz hard 
Btw blood or rail, should I swap out xmaiden with my built sbs instead in team 1? Would still be 3RL with 1 quantum 
C7 SBS 
ye won't matter, just flex unit
I'm a scarlet fan and had to max her during her rerun last year 
If you needed the CP sure. 
Killed kraken at 341 
Now go Mex drunk scarlet
7 more dupes to go 
Btw blood what site do you recommend now that comick is dead and mangadex got so many series nuked 
hows ada burst gen?
Regular RL afaik
so not emilia burst gen like?
regular RL unit
which excel is that
same speed as anchor, biscuit, tia... etc
sheets in pins
which pin
I have been using Mangapark for a decade now. 
Not the best but it works. And the owner was smart enough that no one knows who he was in real life to sue him
which link
yes
ok not the link i expected then
Oh that one still exists
onemanga, batoto, mangastream all dead 
When operating illegal site, it's the most important that no one know who you are. 
ComicK owner was ousted because cloudflare report his address which he never bother to hide. Then he got DCMA.
@swift mango are you a student or corpo slave btw?
Ratted by cloudflare damn 
True privacy/anonymity is a rare commodity in 2025.
Unfortunately
oke i'll just assume you're a basement dweller then 
Remember when older generations warned us from telling random ppl online our identity etc? Look at how the tables turned 
Yeah, my house is next to hoboman
You have a house 
a few cardboard boxes or under a bridge don't count as a house 
It's small but warm enough for us. 
@swift mango 's profile
age: not on the clock
occupation: MA in disguise, basement dweller
residence: below earth
house: N/A
genderino: pvper
likes: elegg
and crow 🫃
dislikes: people who don't have emilia
looks about right 
Gotta send this to SU to look for a job. 
instantly hired
then sent to the spaghetti code caves



well pulling rumani and T.Vesti would help, building wise you want to build up rosanna with enough attack to one shot units and Poli treasure would help out your sg team
Oh and pulling laplace and getting her treasure helps too
Rumani, T.Vest, T.Poli, T.Laplace
got it!
how about Viper/T.Viper, Bay/T.Bay and Nero?
what team/teams can i build for rookie/special arena
@tropic summit you cooking this season?
A tact vesti team, a sanis team, redhood team
U have some shot guns with good gen like viper/drake/pepper
Mix in with bits of tanky units like,diesel,Nero and poli
Finish up with gen/support like jackal biscuit and anis
treasure bay is very niche, nero is only ever really used on the nero moran helm rapunzel laplace team. Viper doesn't really need her treasure.
A 424 in hard chapter 27 is kinda pathetic tbh
haha they hit end of 28 but yeah skill issued certainly
I'm at CC 31
Looks like the ran some Lel
nah it's just trying to cp pad me out but it's not working
and I invest a lot into my units so they need 441 to do it
if they're 441 and I'm 401 they probably can. time to get out the old 💳
Only 20 ish sync difference out padding you is not easy
they have a team with 900k lmao
all max cores, but it's not total junk either
siren cindy noise noah etc
Ye this guy has max core Dorothy
oh the new one max core also?
Sdoro max core
haha
Idk ther others
I don’t got a lot of max cores
I'm saving most of my pulls until anni
I should be able to pick up some more cores then for my units
molds not opened lately
Cinderella Rouge Ein Helm Noah Phantom Mmast Manchor
Oh I use friendship pulls on 100 points
yes I usually do but i'm coping for a random unit I'm missing if they get updated
Im waiting for like Bmilk to get into the list before I use my blues
I feel we get a event after re
Like end of RE is early-mid oct
So they gonna drop some 2 week one then we get anni drop by nov
no it's pretty confirmed RE event runs for a month
O?
yeah think so
Holy crap 25d left
they're just going to take a chill break I guess and run right into anni
That’s good then
they could do a new normal unit from npc jail
Yean any event where you can walk around in is always 3 weeks isn't it
Yeah but dis one is 1 month
yeah usually at least, but 25 days left and 2-3 in so it's a month
Good I needed dis break
yeah I think its 25 more days
yeah it is zant checked
I actually don’t mind dis event
I cant remember any other event that was a whole month, anni maybe?