pvp-arena

[whole garden]

Hi all. Could I get your thoughts on SP def teams? I posted my box and current teams but I have no problem switching up investment to whomever.

[gritty ridge]

Nah they definitely lessened the limit

[lunar pawn]

impressive

[swift mango]

I must admit that SU is making some QoL effort lately, even this discord got QoL upgrade.

[dim escarp]

[gritty ridge]

Team 3 is not good

And im assuming alice is in t1 for cp pad?

[swift mango]

Team 2 is okay but not really strong.

Team 1 eh... Alice CP pad why not put RH here?

T3, just some random nonsense I guess.

Could build Trina or Rossana so we have more options.

[whole garden]

Agreed. I just threw in some random garbage. Yeah, Alice was for CP padding. Thinking I will swap with redhood based on Blood.

[whole garden]

Sounds good. I will go ahead and invest in Rosana and Trina. If you have thoughts on other units to swap into team 2 to improve let me know. I figure it would be good to have a list of units to invest into next for PVP

[vapid lake]

@tropic summit nero frame

[mystic rain]

build me spa def teams onegai :3

[umbral crown]

Imagine having SR frame, could not be me

[gritty ridge]

Do you not compete in sr?

[umbral crown]

Nope

[gritty ridge]

Why?

Free gems

[umbral crown]

0 pve investment

[umbral crown]

I got 700 gems, thats a win

[gritty ridge]

Like, not even 5 campaign units?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Not even 1

@swift mango can confirm

[lunar pawn]

do you not play the game?

[umbral crown]

Part of it, pvp only

[warped scaffold]

any way to deal w little mermaid stun in pvp

[gritty ridge]

Burst faster than she stuns

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-talk-giorno-giobanna-this-taste-is-the-taste-of-liar-gif-16954046

[gritty ridge]

If shes in p1 stun her first

[umbral crown]

@lunar pawn

[crystal flicker]

I skipped MW SR

[umbral crown]

4/4/1

[umbral crown]

Im not alone

[lunar pawn]

so you only do pvp, but you're pvp bricked...do you cp gap your bracket with 💳 ?

[umbral crown]

Nope, thata the work of C1 who got 541 boost im just 434

[quick lake]

I was tempted to

[umbral crown]

But i gap the rest with investment

[gritty ridge]

Yknow what helps you have less of a sync gap?

[gritty ridge]

Finishing campaign

[umbral crown]

The rest of the boi are already 441, 465 or 484

[umbral crown]

I did some push and im at 26-25 or so

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

PelG is 465

[crystal flicker]

Less PvE malding = More QoL

[gritty ridge]

Go to mc

[umbral crown]

In 2 years

Trust the process

[gritty ridge]

Enjoy having 100+ cd an hour

[umbral crown]

I will get there with new chaps, maybe around chap 50

[lunar pawn]

pve bricked means you become pvp bricked by default

unless of course 💳

[gritty ridge]

My rank 1 in spa is pve bricked and im catching up in sync

Im helping him become unbricked tho

[raven plover]

thats me

[crystal flicker]

Won multiple CAs
PvP bricked
yeah

[raven plover]

Im pve bricked

[rich ledge]

So ur rank 1 doesn't spend?

[gritty ridge]

No he definitely does

[mystic rain]

im rank 2 in my spa and im like way higher in campaign progress than anyone else

except for rank 1 whos a leviathan

but im also pvp main

[umbral crown]

Not really

[lunar pawn]

if guy says he has 0 investment in pve units, but wins CA, then he's either lying or I'm really curious to see his 5 teams

[umbral crown]

From last CA?

[lunar pawn]

show spa and ca teams

[umbral crown]

Normal teams , like any people would use

[lunar pawn]

0 investment in pve units, trust
sanis, xmaiden, blanc, thelm, ein (and probably more)

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-liar-you-sit-on-a-throne-of-lies-gif-17734593

[umbral crown]

You think i use them in pve

[lunar pawn]

there's no such thing as 0 investment in pve

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

using them or not isn't important, they're meta in pve, whether it's campaign or raids

[umbral crown]

They can be meta but if i do not use them then is equal to 0

[lunar pawn]

anyway, I knew you were just babbling

[umbral crown]

Was i

Which other units you think could be there

[lunar pawn]

drake, bsoda

[umbral crown]

Tought you would mention any of these

[lunar pawn]

cindy/noir

[umbral crown]

They are cuz SG rosanna

[lunar pawn]

sbs?

[umbral crown]

Cindy is a but but noir

[lunar pawn]

even your siren was at sr15 despite the lack of OL

[umbral crown]

In the list to reset her next anni

[umbral crown]

Did her SR15 cuz had too many kits laying around

But have never used her yet in any content

[lunar pawn]

1st world problems

[umbral crown]

And still have more kits but now thinking in which unit to max her doll

All possible pvp units are done , crown been with basic OL and 7/7/7 since her release. Everything went to pvp units

[languid mason]

i need help building a sp arena team

[umbral crown]

Last anni i resetted rapipi from 4/10/10 to 1/1/1

[umbral crown]

What s your current defense

[umbral crown]

Now its SBS turn to get a reset

[umbral crown]

Will be working in your teams

[gritty ridge]

Ive come to the conclusion I dont like whatever genre berserk and ragna crimson are

[lunar pawn]

never read the 1st and Idk what the 2nd one is

but good to know

[swift mango]

Dark fantasy action I guess.

[gritty ridge]

I just dont like when the main character cant save anybody

[mystic rain]

berserk is slice of life bro

[gritty ridge]

Im too hope pilled i suppose

[swift mango]

Ragna save tons of people what are you talking about?

[gritty ridge]

His old best friend. The sword saintess

Literally any of the sword saintess's followers

[swift mango]

Who the heck is sword saintess?

[gritty ridge]

Idr her proper name, she has no arms

[swift mango]

Silverware princess, he saved her.

[gritty ridge]

I-

Did you not get to the lightning guy fight?

[swift mango]

She survived.

[gritty ridge]

She made the last sword for him to fight with and died didnt she?

[swift mango]

She alive.
And in a sense, her subordinates who died were saved by him mentally from the sense of being useless. Because he brought them back to the battlefield they wished to be. Just read the manga closely.

[gritty ridge]

The last chapter I read was where his old friend who he abandoned was dead while training with the claw bloodline lady

[swift mango]

Did you read the translators note? No important character died in that manga because they head got chopped of anyway.

Not Ragna, not crimson, no thundercok Kamui, not silverware princess and ofc not the silversword genius girl.

[gritty ridge]

Well I mean ragna cant really die if the manga is named after him, and crimson is immortal for the most part

I could've swore the silverware girl died to poison

[swift mango]

Even the barrier boy you know.

Important character needed their whole body vaporized to die.

[hollow lagoon]

I engaged PvP in my union

[swift mango]

The poison dragon released his poison from her when he died as a gift to her retainer who found valiantly against a dragon like him, which he couldn't do when he was a retainer himself and lost his princess.

I swear zoomer generation can't get the story they read if it was a little deep.

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, its been a few months so I guess im remembering only parts

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I can read just fine, I cant remember all the details of a story that I last read like 5 months ago

[swift mango]

I recommend you to reread the official version on weebcentral.com this time.

[gritty ridge]

Nah i still dont like the genre, not a fan of despair

[swift mango]

Ragna Crinsom theme was actually hope in darkness. Opposite of Berserk. The only thing they shared was Dark fantasy action.

[gritty ridge]

Oh I cant even read it on mangadex anymore it looks like

I was on ch 83

[swift mango]

Mangadex suck, it couldn't steal official version. Read on the website I told you.
ComicK is down it's the next best place to find official translation to read.

[umbral crown]

SP Defense

Noise/Siren/Cinderella/HelmT/Noah

Scarlet/X.Maiden/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal

Blanc/S.Anis/Rapipi/Biscuit/SBS

[gritty ridge]

Mangadex lost most of their titles anyway

They got hit with some legal thing and lost almost every big name they had on the site

[fiery parcel]

https://x.com/ibukiyoru/status/1970674342498574785?t=IxnvIHP6Pclh0kLu_i34GA&s=33

いぶき (@ibukiyoru)

エイダｗｗｗ

X · Sep 24, 2025, 2:19 AM

[swift mango]

The fate of fan community site that are scanlator friendly.

Onemanga > Batoto > Mangadex. Nothing gonna survive.

[fiery parcel]

Is ada pvp meta?

[gritty ridge]

No

[fiery parcel]

This is funny tho

[gritty ridge]

Manwha sites are even harder to find good ones, reaper went down recently which sucks

Asura is actually terrible now

[swift mango]

Manhwa site
They are just scanlator site.

[gritty ridge]

I know, but I like my translations not machine

[umbral crown]

Still need more test to say it

[gritty ridge]

Asura used to be good but now they're behind most other scan sites, reaper and night used to be my go to

[swift mango]

Snow MTL was actually as good as site like Reaper scan. Trained A.I these dyy are better than actual lazy human.

Just they also shut down.

[gritty ridge]

I was enjoying goblin night but now ive gotta find a new scan site

[swift mango]

New scan group will pour out to replace old one, don't worry. It has been always the case since mangastream, eatmanga, Frankyhouse a decade ago.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats true

[swift mango]

With improvement from trained A.I you won't even need translator anymore in the future

[gritty ridge]

Theres also the balance of ads to comic for reading tho. If I have to fight 9 billion popups every second and the next button sends me to an ad over and over I probably wont keep using that scanlator

Im specifically talking about manhuas.com rn

[swift mango]

Read on the site I told you, zero pop up ads at all. Only a small ad window on the bottom right that you could close.

Wait it doesn't have that anymore.

But that site doesn't have much manhwa or manhua. Mainly manga

[gritty ridge]

Ill check it out, I may find some more series I like on there

Ive been into murim recently tho

Like nanomachine was enjoyable

Dont hmmz me we all have our tastes in reading

[swift mango]

Understandable, have a nice day.

[gritty ridge]

It is murim despite the name

Im still waiting for 2 specific manwha to get their next season

[crystal flicker]

They all will be closed if they didn't hide their info

Even Comick's admin data got leaked by Cloudflare

[gritty ridge]

Yay cloudflare

Asura is wild tho, they charge you money to read their illegally scanned manwha

[languid mason]

do u know what cube i should use

[crystal flicker]

If they don't have ads prob

[gritty ridge]

Yeah its like 10$ for a year

If you pay 20$ you can read them 3 hours earlier

[crystal flicker]

That pricing is too expensive per user

[gritty ridge]

You should put temper cube on noise

[crystal flicker]

100 reader and they got 1K usd

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, and on top of that they're behind on upload speed compared to most other scans

[crystal flicker]

10000 and they got 100K usd

[gritty ridge]

Their quality is undoubtedly the best tho

Now that reaper scans is gone

[crystal flicker]

That's like senior IT job salary

[gritty ridge]

Big time job money to steal and translate manwha

It probably split by alot of people tho

Theyre translating 100+ at a time

Most on a weekly update

[crystal flicker]

Still quite a lot

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i dont agree with it but I respect the grind

[crystal flicker]

Still I'm waiting for the next great pirate

[candid pivot]

any testing been done on ada yet?

curious to see if she's good in arena

[swift mango]

5+1 rock today roll 2 time for Emi line 2, got nothing. It had been 21 (3*7) rocks without any line 2 dropped

This game hate me

[gritty ridge]

I have seen her described as a bad xmaiden on indom

She should be a good offburst buffer if your team can afford to fit her instead of a battery

[candid pivot]

what's her burst gen like?

[gritty ridge]

Normal rl

[candid pivot]

might slot her in with vesti

my vesti is pretty well invested now

[gritty ridge]

This would probably work

[swift mango]

50 rain bow no SSR.

[junior mesa]

Can someone send me a ss of their defense spa team?

[swift mango]

70 pulls for RH dupe and Ada. Finally some luck.

[gritty ridge]

Chat we've found the person sniping you when you go to sleep

What you need for tho?

If you need teams its better to have personalized teams

[wheat heart]

i mean right now just using red hood kills every team. i guess it'd burst a little faster but you can already get vesti team to 2RL with cubes

[gritty ridge]

The team i posted above if you replace anchor with Ada would work

[junior mesa]

So i can have defense team. Lol

I just set up and forget it every once in a while and its been a while since I updated my sp arena defense team

[wheat heart]

there is a pinned thread with all the teams

[wheat heart]

oh yeah not saying she couldn't work. just saying not sure if worth investing since most already have a maxed red hood

[gritty ridge]

You could use ada to free up redhood for say scar

[wheat heart]

true. might as well get a copy since limited and could see usage

[gritty ridge]

You cant use ada on scar anyway so it kinda works out

[swift mango]

she is new meta in pve. You don't just "could see", you will see.

[umbral crown]

noise helm noah scarlet - Tempering if you have enough slots give one to blanc or just give her endurance
Cinderella Vigor
Trina and jackal Quatum
S.Anis Resilence
Siren- no idea tbh

[gritty ridge]

If I had, say, a lvl 15 temper cube... would I just put that on all my spa units?

[wheat heart]

i will see

[umbral crown]

Lv15 is 12 slots

[gritty ridge]

I only have 12 units silly

[umbral crown]

Sp is 15

[gritty ridge]

Maybe yours is

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

What

[gritty ridge]

I use anchor as a placeholder for ada

[umbral crown]

You.in CA?

[indigo path]

any quick SPA teams?
i need help

i heard ada big bang boom

[radiant coral]

What are some good CA teams without nero + Moran combo?

[mystic rain]

moran bay

[keen vapor]

Yes, almost out

[radiant coral]

How built does bay need to be?

[mystic rain]

i actually dk lol

some would say go treasure some say treasure is useless

[umbral crown]

Oh, guess you need to be more active

[keen vapor]

That reminds Eon must coach me

[radiant coral]

Yeah that’s what I’m bummed about. I’m not sure who to pair with them either. Is Moran bay meant to be a sustain/stall team?

[gritty ridge]

Ideally treasured, can be used regardless

[gritty ridge]

Its a lesser stall team, counters every scar variant tho

[swift mango]

P4-5 doesn't need treasure. 1-2-3 need treasure s3.

Need 2rl speed

[gritty ridge]

I guess scar soda might win through rng but should be fine

[radiant coral]

So I can place bay in the back. Do I also include helm as burst three and a Rapunzel?

Don’t have her treasured

[gritty ridge]

You dont need rapu, typically team is moran, rumani, helm, bay, t.lap

[swift mango]

Rapunzel and not 2rl anymore.

Bay team is more expensive than Nero. Main reason Nero more popular.

[radiant coral]

Hmm

[mystic rain]

i mean dont u sr15 both anyway

[swift mango]

Expensive nin the sense that need more burst gen

[mystic rain]

ah wtf

[gritty ridge]

Nero moran doesnt need 2rl. Bay does

[radiant coral]

Is this because Moran dies easily?

[gritty ridge]

Moran does not die easily

[radiant coral]

Well I just tested against a high CP nvm

[gritty ridge]

Bay need 2rl so she can catch opposing b3

[mystic rain]

no cuz u can stall with nero s1 dmg reduction and moran b1

[radiant coral]

Oh ok

[mystic rain]

stall already works as long as nero is getting healed and moran bursts b1

[gritty ridge]

Why did you reply to me

[mystic rain]

mb

[radiant coral]

Is bay team still usable without treasure or am I better off with something else?

[gritty ridge]

The bay team isnt really good in spa

Its more of a CA team

[mystic rain]

oh SPA

[radiant coral]

Nah I was asking CA

[gritty ridge]

Oh ok

[mystic rain]

oh lol

[radiant coral]

I don’t use bay in SP

[gritty ridge]

I didnt see that part

[mystic rain]

ok back on topic then

[gritty ridge]

The bay team is pretty good in CA, you counter a few popular b3

[mystic rain]

well theres not really any other moran team out there

unless its just a casual moran b1 in some random ass team

[swift mango]

Usable but worse. And she already getting less and less champ than Nero.

[gritty ridge]

This is moran bay not nero moran

[radiant coral]

So far I have scarlet + Soda, Moran Biscuit SAnis, Noise Noah Cindy, Rosanna shotgun, and Blanc Vesti

[gritty ridge]

I would run noise noah vesti and slow cindy instead

[mystic rain]

yea thats what i mean theres not a lot of moran variations for champs unless its just a casual moran b1

[radiant coral]

Slow Cindy?

[gritty ridge]

Blanc, mihara, rumani, biscuit, cindy

[radiant coral]

I don’t got a mihara 💀

[gritty ridge]

Oh nvrmind then

[mystic rain]

i even lost to a scar trina moran 2RL in champs last season lol

[swift mango]

Moran ASS
Moran Bay
Moran Nero
Moran Midhara Biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Moran ASS goes hard

[mystic rain]

moran mihara is wild

[gritty ridge]

Its just a sac mihara comp, nothing crazy

[mystic rain]

oh i actually saw one team running that yea i remember

[gritty ridge]

Mihara doesnt need overloads for CA, does she?

[umbral crown]

[mystic rain]

iirc OL lines dont affect mihara chain DoT

[gritty ridge]

I wanna know if i can run slow cindy yet

[mystic rain]

base stats do

[umbral crown]

Just try it out, nothing to lose

[gritty ridge]

True

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Im running all the meta teams this CA then

[umbral crown]

Good

[gritty ridge]

Idc if im not invested enough yet

[mystic rain]

u running scar trina mast and abso trio one shot?

[radiant coral]

Any suggestions and improvements?

[mystic rain]

das insane

[gritty ridge]

Scar trina mast??

[umbral crown]

Do not think bigboi has mast skill invested

[gritty ridge]

Never heard of that one

[mystic rain]

nvm...

[umbral crown]

Its a secret team

[gritty ridge]

Like, base mast?

[mystic rain]

perfect timing actually i just got mast from the new molds

[gritty ridge]

Im confused, I thought base mast was useless

[umbral crown]

Hmmm jackal P5 and put laplace p2 and blanc P4, if you fight a well invested vesti your blanc might die before bursting

[umbral crown]

Of course

You need S1 and S2 lv10

[mystic rain]

x4 atk crit chance dmg scar

[gritty ridge]

I already have that one

Well not the dmg

[mystic rain]

time to build mast then

[umbral crown]

Go check og mast S1 and S2

[gritty ridge]

But 4 atk 4 crit chance

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I would rather use miranda

[umbral crown]

In nikkepedia lv10

[umbral crown]

Miranda not gonna work unless is emilia bursting

And you arr emiless

[gritty ridge]

Miranda is still a 56% crit dmg boost for scar

She just doesnt benefit from skill 2

Wait, we can already build our CA teams? I thought there was another day

[umbral crown]

Miranda S1 is to boost SGs, S2 is where the crit dmg is

[gritty ridge]

Her burst is a 56% crit dmg boost and a 40% atk boost

Her skill 2 is mainly crit rate

Only 35% crit dmg iirc

[umbral crown]

The difference is mast does not need to burst to give the buff while miranda does and if facing scar, miranda has a high chance to die while if mast does, is still a win sice her S2 will proc

[gritty ridge]

Im just advocating for my wife

[umbral crown]

Then use her

[gritty ridge]

I think if miranda had cdr shed be a top tier b1

[umbral crown]

Never seen you using her yet

[gritty ridge]

Ive used her literally every CA

[umbral crown]

Have you?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

If you loved your Miranda pull and build Ada.

[gritty ridge]

Ive already pulled her, but ada burst isnt very good

If she had a range expansion she would be a good b3 tho

Emi pt 2

Or pt3 if you consider vesti pt 2

[swift mango]

Build Ada and use her with Miranda in SR. Now Miranda could burst different nuker per rotation thanks to Ada s1

[gritty ridge]

Oh yeah ada replaced maxwell on sw team and goes on mihara team

Btw should I go double buff scar or siren scar

[radiant coral]

Sounds good

[umbral crown]

But now im a believer that jackal should be with scarlet all the time

[gritty ridge]

How's it lookin

Rumani is gonna die

[umbral crown]

Looks fine, a 2nd sg team

[peak lagoon]

chat is this team viable for 3v3

[radiant coral]

I was considering that but I really want my vesti to live

[gritty ridge]

Uhhh... no

Too slow

[umbral crown]

Then go for it

[umbral crown]

Nope

[gritty ridge]

Its my best option for t5 atm

[peak lagoon]

should i replace cindy w thelm and siren w xmaiden?

[radiant coral]

Any other improvements that I need?

[gritty ridge]

Im tempted to run scar siren instead of scar rh

[umbral crown]

any is valid, just watch your replay and improve for next season

[gritty ridge]

Scar siren would speed me up a bit, but since im 2rl noah doesnt really matter

Im mostly worried abt rumani dying on slow cindy cuz she has blue doll

[umbral crown]

maybe the way you set your cubes

[umbral crown]

you do the r15 to sr5?

[gritty ridge]

I do, im just waiting for sr dolls

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I only got sg dolls this sr

And the one before it

[umbral crown]

combine the leftover SRs and make a selection box

ez

[gritty ridge]

I did and thats why trina has a purple

[radiant coral]

I guess at this point I’m convinced I have terrible match ups or my units are just not built well to keep up

[umbral crown]

you will get better, trial and error and always watch you replays to know which teams your teams lose and next season you will make it better. its what we all do

our teams are pretty differents from S1-S4 and we are now in S13. we all have learnt a bit how to build

[gritty ridge]

Hey quick question, whats your sync?

[radiant coral]

407

[swift mango]

Mostly not very good but could work sometime if opponent doesn't know better

[gritty ridge]

Ok cool, I dont think youre in my bracket

[radiant coral]

My alt is 223

[gritty ridge]

Im 261

[radiant coral]

Prob in the same one then

[swift mango]

Come to my bracket bro, it's fun

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, stay away

[umbral crown]

bigboi with the cool kids

[gritty ridge]

Im in the baby bracket, let me stay there

[umbral crown]

also, i always save the team last day in case i got lucky with lines or upgrade skills, so i do not have to set the cubes again

or if you get a copy of your units there

[radiant coral]

my alt boutta get diffed since it started recently and I don’t have all of the units

[radiant coral]

Oh does it not automatically update?

[swift mango]

I haven't been able to get a single line 2 for Emi locking 1+3 after 21 rocks. I'm not rolling OL until I saved up 30.

[umbral crown]

happened to me but with vesti

[swift mango]

I mean not even hit rate

[lunar pawn]

winnable

[umbral crown]

nope, usually the cubes you set in CA are different from sp at least in my case so after i set cubes for CA i set them back as how they were for sp so it changes

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

press auto and hope for the best

[lunar pawn]

when someone asks if cp is important in arena

[umbral crown]

Would?

[gritty ridge]

Just win smh

[umbral crown]

trina and centi blue doll and scarlet and jackal not sr15

[lunar pawn]

I'm a casual

[umbral crown]

we are

[lunar pawn]

either way, new dolls/upgrades on those would make no difference except cp jumps

[umbral crown]

More cp is a good thing

[lunar pawn]

eh, rather save the mats for dps

[umbral crown]

But scar is dps

[lunar pawn]

not pvp exclusive dps

[umbral crown]

[fast nest]

how much is Ada's burst gen? whose burst gen is similar to Ada's one?

[gritty ridge]

Shes a normal rl, so units like manchor, normal laplace, quiry, etc

[fast nest]

tyty!

[dense roost]

Got ass blasted on 1 def attack, made a small change

Noah Noise VestiTU HelmT Emi
Blanc Mihara Bisc Rumani Cindy

That seems to work for this rotation, they probably gonna counter next time but safe for now

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-pink-cat-gif-16452028911798223308

[swift mango]

At least your noah tanked 5 seconds

[frigid jungle]

anyone got a good rookie defense? wanted to update my team

was running this team

[wicked burrow]

why am I started losing against everyone suddenly? even guys kinda weaker than me
any suggestions to these teams?

[thin perch]

Is Ada worth rolling a copy for?

[north brook]

Why did u put centi before noah

[rich ledge]

Did anyone analyse what is the best order for CA teams to be put?

[shell hazel]

rng arena going to rng arena

also how did I defend? no idea

I'd love to see what they sent which lost

[wicked burrow]

oh LOL

fair enough

I coped some team from here

and didnt even notice

[hollow obsidian]

what is Maiden: Ice Rose OL rec?

[quick lake]

for pvp? 4x cs 4x atk some ammo would be nice

[glad meteor]

Imagine being pvpg—n so you dont have ele on xmaid

[hollow obsidian]

my xmaiden has 1 atk 1 ele 1 ammo 1 cs

[radiant coral]

You gave two screenshots of the first one. What’s your second team

[wicked burrow]

bruh... just a moment

gonna retake the pics

[radiant coral]

I think you just have placement issues

Yeah you fixed the first one which is good

The second team seems to be lacking burst gen, so they’re pretty vulnerable from fast nuke teams

And you should burst 1 with red hood instead of siren since she gives more damage buff

[wicked burrow]

so trina 2nd and rh 3rd?

[radiant coral]

So it would be scarlet, Trina, RH, siren, jackal

Yeah

[wicked burrow]

got it thanks

as for the second teem yeah

its 3rl blanc template

but I doubt I can make it 2.5 at least

[radiant coral]

Yeah I guess so

[wicked burrow]

I kinda can leave blanc and put x maiden for burst gen but then the teams probably not gonna work well

[radiant coral]

I mean there are ways to counter that team so you can’t do much anyways, but the main issues are in the first and third team

[wicked burrow]

and i still dount it will be 2.5

[wicked burrow]

got it, thanks, will see how it goes now

[tough elm]

Good morning. Can maybe someone help me building teams for the champion arena?

[radiant coral]

I’d suggest maybe a faster RL team?

I use SAnis a lot before, but now VestiT

I think I use Noah Jackal Biscuit Vesti and Helm

But in your case I guess you want to use SAnis

[pallid gate]

how was ada for ...pvp?

niche or great?

[tropic summit]

run these, quantum is mandatory on T1, T3 optional on jackal and centi although equip them if available, especially jackal

[tropic summit]

bad burst gen, buff only applies to the B3 that casts, she has potential in rookie team, more niche in SParena and CA, but needs further testing

the lifesteal on B3s could turn some teams unkillable if conditions are met

ergo: situational

[tough elm]

Thank you

[pallid gate]

well, not gonna get dupes for it then

no expanding hit like emilia does

[swift mango]

Maybe they purposely lose like Keripo

[shell hazel]

maybe but I dunno new season, doubt it tbh

they clearly wanted spa 1 as they keep trying for it and I haven't changed my teams in a while

[swift mango]

Her attacker buffer may make you want to pull for dupe but yeah, could ignore.

The problem with Ada is mainly her low gen like all other buffers have.

This could work but Eon claim Vesti+Emi could beat stall without buffer r

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

@coarse lake How many CS does your Vesti, Emi and Centi have? Not counting skill ofc. Could add Noise, Noah too for science.

Ofc in last CA, not now

[covert lintel]

Wth anchor sr

[glad meteor]

Anchor is filler for ada

[swift mango]

I just confirmed that the synch shot tech doesn't even need Emi.

[covert lintel]

How to do it

[swift mango]

Use nikke work and synch your CS.

[covert lintel]

Same cs speed?

[swift mango]

Same frame

Here is the reason why you don't use indom Emi btw.

[keen vapor]

Can't use nikke work on mobile

[swift mango]

I use it just fine.
You are just bad at navigation.

[keen vapor]

Kisama

[swift mango]

These aren't synched shots btw.

[covert lintel]

Same frame?
For their shot?

[upper harbor]

Good cindy roll praise the rng gods.

[covert lintel]

Centi survive, then you can just make emi p4

[quick lake]

[covert lintel]

Why cs tho
Doesn't cindy need max ammo?

[upper harbor]

Actually building her for 32-33 HM Boss. So the Ele and attack is really all I wanted. Not actually sure how CS affects Cindy for PvP.

[shell hazel]

it doesn't really but cp pad at least

[upper harbor]

I do have 2 lines of ammo

[shell hazel]

in future you could roll that to ammo if you wanted to the other two rolls are good

I wouldn't mald it if you don't need to it's expensive rolling line 1

[upper harbor]

Do you just want enough ammo for the full burst duration?

[keen vapor]

Man I'm jealous

[upper harbor]

I've got 2 lines of charge damage (line 3) on 2 pieces of gear I gotta try and get elemental. That's gonna be super expensive. I have a feeling although my stats are good on the other pieces of gear Ill have to just reset them to get an ele roll. 3 rocks for a 30% chance is not gonna be good odds.

[keen vapor]

Better full reroll and start from 0

10% of 30% is deadly

[upper harbor]

My Scarlet BS lost that bet twice and won on the third time.

was rolling for ele

had to lock 2

rngjesus

Was to clear kraken

[keen vapor]

That's 10% of 50%

[upper harbor]

ye

first two* didnt get anything

Here's hoping everyone else get some good luck with their rolls. That one is just an unexpected super lucky one that stood out, I knew my odds weren't good from the start. We need another way to farm these rocks

[shell hazel]

I'd not be trying to roll for 3rd line tbh lightly if I have good lines 1 + 2 super costly

[keen vapor]

Full reroll

[shell hazel]

3rd line charge damage is OK for cp pad for now

[upper harbor]

Yeah, I initially had a stockpile of rocks like 200+ as I was just OLing gear. I burned through that pile real quick on Rapi and Siren. And now I know just how annoying they are to get when you want them.

[shell hazel]

probably some easier stuff to improve

[keen vapor]

Full reroll ☝️

[shell hazel]

the game needs to add gear score tbh, it's crazy how it doesn't have it

[keen vapor]

Gear what

[shell hazel]

every ol line has a phase/value score it just doesn't show it

we have 3 x OL lines possible.
phases of each are 1-15 if it even rolls anything

so if something is triple black line, the gear score is 45

if something is 3 x phase 1 rolls it's 3

[upper harbor]

Have yet to roll a 2 blackline, best roll is like a blackline and phase 14, for one roll

[shell hazel]

it's just an example, unlikely ofc

just saying the values are basically 0 (or 1 if it's OL at all) to possible 45 value

[upper harbor]

yeah would be handy to see rather than having the check through the menus all the time

[shell hazel]

yes, and when rolling you can see the score change as well

some stats are better real term value than others ofc - atk is better than hit rate, but the cp/phase score is identical

[keen vapor]

I compare with this

[shell hazel]

yes that is possible also but the game knows it just makes us work it out

[upper harbor]

Yeah having it on a side screen is easier than menuing. But I'm sure at some stage they'll add similar to Hippos suggestion.

They are pretty slow to add these QoL stuf

[shell hazel]

I was wondering if the api for blabla output the scores as well somehow

then I could calc it into excel that way, but was a bit of a backburner idea

[limpid trail]

is there a newer test matrix (or just good teams to use)

[keen vapor]

Good teams are pinned

[limpid trail]

are the archetypes themselves ordered from best to worst?

[keen vapor]

No

[upper harbor]

PvP wise with the Laplace buff, should I start looking at rolling some CS on her? She has 2 lines (8%) but has heaps of room to roll better stats.

[keen vapor]

There's no best and worst in rock paper scissors

[upper harbor]

I think all I have done with Laplace was OL her gear, no rolls yet

[shell hazel]

shotgun wins

[keen vapor]

I also ask myself that question

Since we will get new matis squad at some point next year

[upper harbor]

Thanks for the cook again Echo seems like it's holding its spot in SPA.

[shell hazel]

I've not bothered yet tbh

[upper harbor]

Yeah, its just a matter of when they'll get released. Feels like there are heaps of other characters hinted at before them storywise that should come out.

[shell hazel]

I think I only added some atk to her but rest was initial OL

[upper harbor]

When an SPA defence stops working, do you just try and make small iterations on the current teams made or does entirely changing things up work better?

[shell hazel]

on equal investment and with both players having a clue, you can't defend really anymore

[keen vapor]

Whatever you're in the mood for

[upper harbor]

lol

[keen vapor]

Both can work just as fine

[shell hazel]

so if I lose I just move my teams around to make my opponent have to do the same 😄

[keen vapor]

Yeah, swapping order is the most annoying and effective tactic

[upper harbor]

Yeah, Rotate->small iterations -> finally change it up entirely?

[shell hazel]

can just drag the icons to swap team positions also

[keen vapor]

Right @hoary maple ?

How are you on this day btw

[shell hazel]

didn't realise this until recently but handy all the same

[shell hazel]

the whale in my bracket I fight is +25-30 sync above me usually and multiple cores. I can't def but I can beat them, so I don't even bother changing my teams

just move the order

if I change my teams and it works they'd just copy me

[keen vapor]

It happened to me

[upper harbor]

My bracket its like 50-105 sync difference :l

1st is 107 sync ahead

I havent missed a day

[keen vapor]

Rip

[shell hazel]

vs you or vs everyone?

100 levels is too much to fight against for sure

[keen vapor]

Missed gemming events? I did

[shell hazel]

f2p can naturally fall behind a bit also

[upper harbor]

Its like a gradient, like my commander level is 557, top 3 is 618,601,615. they are all 70+ sync levels ahead

[shell hazel]

I do extra wipe outs and such

max diff there is about 60 sync?

[upper harbor]

This is JP server if it makes a difference.

[keen vapor]

I fall behind another F2P

[shell hazel]

more spenders usually

in JP side I think

[upper harbor]

lemme check. im challenger 9, if I list the sync levels ahead of me it goes 13, 37, 37, 62, 41 (4th), 91, 78 and 103 (1st).

I usually get 7th, need to try hitting 4th. But not sure about the others

[upper harbor]

Haven't missed an event. I started with the Re:Zero collab. Missed out on Emilia tho :l

I still have some boxes to open. But will probably only get like 5-7 more levels

[keen vapor]

Well, JP whales

[upper harbor]

I guess Ill need to do more wipeouts per day, I usually just do the 50 gem one

Wont do much to a whale if they are buying the big packs thou, but in the long run it'll help

[hoary maple]

Just another day in 8th place

[shell hazel]

50 / 70 wipeout not too bad. I do the 100 one as well usually but I kind of subsidise with my pvp gems

[upper harbor]

Yeah 30 hour day is gonna get you ahead quicker. I'll have to do that too, less pulls but more levels. If I want any chance of catching up.

[keen vapor]

You know, #pvp-arena is free reign, you can ask for guidance, wether it's attack or defense

I'd be happier if you choose to hit hero tho

[hoary maple]

Thx

How do I turn off the Internet of my opponents?

So they can't fight back

[shell hazel]

1 second left lol

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown knows

[hoary maple]

I make a little spreadsheet, sometimes it helps

[keen vapor]

Hero

[keen vapor]

Yup, mirror matches won't work
-# Referring to my Scarlet round

[covert lintel]

What is this

[hoary maple]

It's my secret list of rivals

[keen vapor]

Btw, are you aware of https://nikke-deck.web.app/ existence?
I get that you tried to outspeed me

[covert lintel]

Change anis to rosanna then you can bully echo

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[upper harbor]

Good luck with the crystal spawns for the boss

[keen vapor]

My weakness

[shell hazel]

i'm too low cp I sleep for now

401 sync not going to fly here

[upper harbor]

I wish I could check mine I think I did it at 430. Probably lower now with my cindy rolls 😛 Goodnight

[shell hazel]

this was the team I used for last one

but seems like I might need a new team

[upper harbor]

I think I B1 shuffled with Red hood

[shell hazel]

in any case, 421 sync and maybe built s.anis enough to win it

[upper harbor]

I tried a bunch of comps. I think it mightve been crown-siren-cindy-helm-RH, but it couldve also have been crown-siren-cindy-rapi-RH.

The main thing is that mechanic with the crystal spawn. I go left it went right. I go right it goes left

[swift mango]

I have yet to roll a useful black line that's not line 1.

[indigo path]

hi friends any viable pvp spa teams i can make out of this

heard rumani op pvp unit

[umbral crown]

Do i

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

haha I know the pain I hate this rng 😛

[rich ledge]

Is my scarlet's HP dangerously low? Should I use tempering on her and rh instead even tho it will drop CP a little?

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit, 18%

that's actually good considered deficit

[rich ledge]

Ya I know haha so I'm not sure if tempering will make it safer

[tropic summit]

it reduces a bit of dmg

[rich ledge]

I'm saving my boxes for when anni new story drops

[indigo path]

help me make a team

[shell hazel]

Rail-sama I did it #pvp-arena message

besti carry

[swift mango]

Jackal Ein Crown ada Rumani

Privaty+S.Anis+Anis+Mana+EnmaTU

Poli+Liter+Drake+Anchor+Neon

[tropic summit]

ein drake anchorIM liter jackal
crown poli s.anis anis rumani
auto

[indigo path]

i trust the lineup without the ""

[shell hazel]

they both have now

[swift mango]

Good luck.

[tropic summit]

Good luck.

[rich ledge]

Oo wow u reached here at 401 I'm stuck at 30's boss

[shell hazel]

yeah hyper malding it lmao

if your mast is built I have a video for 30 boss

[indigo path]

my opposition are these noobs

[tropic summit]

why are you not ch1

[rich ledge]

Mine is like this now

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lubF2x31QvI
391 mast was pretty high skills 8-10 on all 3

[swift mango]

The fast you mald the longer you hard stuck on 32-34.

[indigo path]

i just got a few of these units yesteday from the new 60% molds
i went 4/4 SSR

[shell hazel]

yeah am aware 😛

[tropic summit]

this is your smurf account right?

[rich ledge]

I'm not sure if I need to mald it now or wait for anni and mald together

[tropic summit]

or you really just started nikke?

[rich ledge]

Mald now I'll just get 1/hr gain at most

[swift mango]

Time to max core Jill+Ada so you clear MC easier.

[indigo path]

yes, sir

auto team looking kind of goated

[tropic summit]

wows

[indigo path]

straight to the dumpster

[shell hazel]

not going to happen 😛

[tropic summit]

so is hippo 461 yet

yesterday he was 401, so today he must be 461

[swift mango]

Do it

[indigo path]

[swift mango]

And tomorrow you would be 401.

[rich ledge]

So I'm 746k with the same team

[tropic summit]

oh so that's where the levels go

[indigo path]

[rich ledge]

7-10-7 mast

[tropic summit]

gem and get ch7, then gem again and get ch4, last gem to ch1

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[indigo path]

i can't they're too high cp
i'm stalking their teams

[tropic summit]

oh that sucks 🫃

[shell hazel]

on the way

[indigo path]

they're min 152/160, while i'm still 120

[tropic summit]

clearly you're slacking on progression

[indigo path]

core dust diff my brother
2 week acc

[swift mango]

Use the damn rent unit and run to the side of hard fight to pass them then leave them alone. You could clear to map 18 in 2 week with any account.

[indigo path]

oh i use rental units already
my progress is fine

[shell hazel]

run faster jump higher!

[wanton tartan]

I hold no responsibility over rp's gif usage

[indigo path]

yes coach

[shell hazel]

go kill whale 🐳

[indigo path]

no way

[cunning crown]

emma in SPA

[indigo path]

oh on the topic of pvp, what's the recommended goated rookie arena lineup

3RL it up?

[swift mango]

Auto team then add Jackal.

[tropic summit]

he has overall weak B3s although

[shell hazel]

s.anis on SR-15 and most people here won't know how to counter her

[tropic summit]

maybe ein on double buff could do

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter CP gap or lose.

[shell hazel]

just wouldn't put her on p1 😄

[swift mango]

Ada buff on Ein is actually double buff

[indigo path]

auto = campaign team

[tropic summit]

then again it's synchro 120

[shell hazel]

take priv out add jackal

[indigo path]

kk

do all of these units use resi as well?

[tropic summit]

isn't that buff applied after nuke is casted

[shell hazel]

highest level cube prob

[indigo path]

kk x3 resi x2 bastion

[swift mango]

Ein cast her nuke after getting into full burst.

[indigo path]

respectable

[shell hazel]

s.anis ein crown liter jackal prob, check that s.anis and ein link to jackal

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

if you have quantum give to jackal she makes best use of it

[indigo path]

ah placement here is different than campaign

[shell hazel]

it's jackal link related

[indigo path]

apologies

[swift mango]

Are you seriously didn't know? It's Arena 101

[shell hazel]

put the team into a mock fight with anomaly or similar and check who gets the jackal buff

should be two highest atk units, in reality it's going to be s.anis and ein here

[indigo path]

looking for this buff, right?

[shell hazel]

can't see liter or crown stealing it unless they have mad atk ol lines 😄

[swift mango]

Go with

Jackal+Ein+Crown+Ass+Privaty/Ada.

[indigo path]

i'll level her up to 4/4/4

[shell hazel]

yeah

[hollow lagoon]

Man ca again

[shell hazel]

i'm not changing my layout zant so if you want to win counter my position 😄

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel what’s the popular teams now days

Too lazy to think

[shell hazel]

what I ran last season I think is fairly meta ish

[hollow lagoon]

Gib

[shell hazel]

let me find sec

[tropic summit]

looks like you're right

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll run it on different position so we can work the power of friendship

[swift mango]

You did this test last eyar. Memory of goldfish.

[tropic summit]

i don't play ein though

you might be confusing it with someone else

[shell hazel]

I like it 🙂

my teams

jackal links to noise/vesti on t5

[tropic summit]

might've tested s.anis with xmaiden though

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna use my max treasure bay for sg team aaaaa wat’s with that Cindy team

[shell hazel]

it's slow cindy team

[swift mango]

Yes, you used it to check Full burst buff.

[shell hazel]

your mihara should smash mine for effectiveness here

[hollow lagoon]

Cindy actually gets the indom?

[swift mango]

As I suggested

[tropic summit]

are you sure it was me? maybe it was a fake Railtracer

[shell hazel]

it doesn't matter who gets the indom - is kind of the point

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

[shell hazel]

mihara sac and dot

[hollow lagoon]

My Mihara is tastier than yours yes

[swift mango]

Yes he wasn't Redtracer

[shell hazel]

yeah

I intend to invest mine more soon tbh

[hollow lagoon]

Why Laplace on stall?

[shell hazel]

lapT or xmaiden can work there with a swap

or do your own mana thing if you pref

[hollow lagoon]

Mana no good anymore?

My mana is kinda thicc

[shell hazel]

I never built mine, I don't see her used that often

[hollow lagoon]

I use mana every raid tho

[shell hazel]

return on invest for me would be to build mihara/sdoro next prob, or maybe some skills into my core supports like rouge/dkw

as my mast is 10/10/10

https://tenor.com/view/mast-nikke-gif-17185893502705482284

[swift mango]

Synch 453

[tropic summit]

just go the keripo way

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

Evil but I usually run rapunzel

That Cindy looks funny tho I’ll roll that

[shell hazel]

yeah it did fairly well

[indigo path]

now the hard part friends
my main's pvp team

[hollow lagoon]

That list looks like mine

[shell hazel]

scar loses to jackal scar though

[hollow lagoon]

That’s how it is

[swift mango]

What is your current SPA CP btw? Surely they aren't CP gapped by my 1050k def?

[tropic summit]

where trina and why is rumani out of synchro

[shell hazel]

I lost to vesti smash 2RL death as well lol

[hollow lagoon]

That’s the price of jackaless scarlet

[tropic summit]

i'm in range on my 2 attack teams if you're on 1050k

[shell hazel]

but I'm not even going to adjust the teams this time, not enough has changed, and I cba to move cubes about

[indigo path]

[covert lintel]

Can 2 buff scar slash a team with a 20.80 cp deficit? @swift mango @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

oh no.

[indigo path]

i will invest in them a bit

[tropic summit]

no longer lethal on some units, ele weak still lethal, treasure units on temperance no longer lethal

[swift mango]

Look like so close to tripping. Glad you still getting to CA.

[tropic summit]

?

[wicked horizon]

I understand Tempering is better, but does an Endurance cube have any merit?

[shell hazel]

is whel still MIA rail?

[swift mango]

You are letting yourselves level bricked is what I meant.

[tropic summit]

he already got ninjaed by other whel

[shell hazel]

damn they don't wait long, whel food

[indigo path]

wtf trina

[tropic summit]

but i can't take his spot because it will provoke the other 3 chinnits behind me

so it's meaningless regardless

[shell hazel]

one less whel in top spots surely a good thing

[tropic summit]

i'm on outpost 500, on par with progression i should be, not gapped by dolphins and only gapped by whels, not sure what you mean

unlike you i've 210k+ gems stocked up, you're broke

[swift mango]

Actually, 4104 before 41010

[covert lintel]

[rich ledge]

hmm is an uninvested xanne better than naga?

i havent overloaded her

[tropic summit]

hmm it's SGs, if on 20% deficit those are gonna hurt

[indigo path]

she gets this for now (:

okay trina and rumani synced and 4/4/4 + 4/7/4'd w/ (almost) full t9m gear

[swift mango]

It's because your global bracket isn't compete some you don't have 6+ guys hitting you everyday because your CP in their range.

[tropic summit]

no they just gave up

if they actually bothered, they could just gem their way out of it

i don't attack more than twice a day

they're free to take ch4 i'm fine with ch6, but they don't

[swift mango]

That's how. Your SPA is probably 2.7m for 3 teams, that's is free real estate for my bracket from C4 to d15 to hit. And many of them could his on reset. We started 1 month before you.

[shell hazel]

may depend on your brackets. tbh I ran no OL xanne no doll upgrade lol

4/4/7

[covert lintel]

Let's just try it

[tropic summit]

here's total CPs

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/junevi-gif-18033834710861070581

[umbral crown]

210k

[rich ledge]

Ok I'll use her then lemme invest abit

[tropic summit]

good RNG on banners is op

[shell hazel]

keep her safe in middle she should be OK

[umbral crown]

Waos, yellow is a whale

[swift mango]

Yeah, 100k off but still the point. Your bracket has the CP but just lazy

[umbral crown]

Give those credits

[tropic summit]

he was 20 levels below me when i was synchro 200-250

then he realized wallet-kun could help a bit

[umbral crown]

And now he should be like 521?

[tropic summit]

he's not saving boxes at all

[umbral crown]

Like me

[tropic summit]

safe to assume he's 539 with boxes spent

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I wonder what saving boxes is like

[umbral crown]

The whale in mine 541 with 3.9

[tropic summit]

just min/maxing for poor f2p

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-metromart-londa-gif-18088690

[swift mango]

I mean, I broke 160 wall before my whale.

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Id love to save my boxes, but im always in the range of bottom 3 clears so I cant

[tropic summit]

pro player

[umbral crown]

Rail is echo 2.0

Bricked

[tropic summit]

still higher progression than my 2 dolphins

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Then they are bricker than you

[gritty ridge]

Btw, if a whale has never bought core dust, are they still a whale?

[tropic summit]

they ultra brickeroni

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

imagine spending money and doing worse than your f2p competition

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[tropic summit]

then again maybe they just in for the fun and luls

i won't judge

[umbral crown]

They can buy skins and stuff

[tropic summit]

i find it more hilarious the whel quitting now after having spent so much on the game instead

[gritty ridge]

Theres so many yappers active today

[umbral crown]

Happens,

[shell hazel]

it's why I won't spend so much that I wind up simply regretting it

[umbral crown]

Happened to me with 2 games

[shell hazel]

because eventually we'll all quit/game EoS

[umbral crown]

But the fun

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, game never eos

[umbral crown]

And the friendos

[swift mango]

I was lucky enough and saved pull for MLB 3 banners.

My another CN player broke 160 wall before me though, but he is just casual now log in one a day and buy skin Chilling c4-10

[tropic summit]

filthy pro player

[umbral crown]

He took a vacation

[covert lintel]

it won

[tropic summit]

hope so

[umbral crown]

But most of the time some people quit and do not think about how much they spent

[tropic summit]

cuz his replacement is probably gonna be a worse whel

[indigo path]

?

[swift mango]

For now.

[covert lintel]

Oh but my scar lost
I didn't expect to win the team 3

[covert lintel]

I nearly win 3

If my scar can burst, i win

[swift mango]

Time for him to actually invest into arena.

[gritty ridge]

Is 1.5rl scar an acceptable answer to 2rl vesti?

[swift mango]

The whale named rail.

[keen vapor]

Red whale

[covert lintel]

Switching jackal p2 to trina p2 should fix it right?

[tropic summit]

red maybe, whale not gonna happen'

[tropic summit]

jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
noise rumani s.anis helmT bayT
noah biscuit sbs rrh emilia

quantum on rumani, helmt, bay
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL

[swift mango]

You wished

[indigo path]

i love u

[tropic summit]

you forgot the #nohomo

[covert lintel]

I just need to kill that filthy rapun

[tropic summit]

unless you're a hot asian grill, then it's fine

[rich ledge]

ill copy your team but change laplace to mana since i dont have laplace dupes

[indigo path]

i thought draket was poopoo in pvp

[tropic summit]

not when she's position 1 in your investiment

she has ok burst gen and SG pressure, just that she feeds like all other SGs

[indigo path]

that is true

[shell hazel]

you will need some cs on rapu if you run that

or you lose 2.5RL

[swift mango]

But rp is a girl.

[shell hazel]

there are no girls on the internet (except Hime)

[rich ledge]

my rapu has no OL haha

[swift mango]

(and hippo)

[shell hazel]

then your Rapu has 0 CS

[rich ledge]

only nero and helm has OL the rest no OL lol

[swift mango]

2%

[tropic summit]

you're also a girl

[shell hazel]

oh yes ofc

adjutant

[rich ledge]

then maybe I need to spend rocks to at least OL rapu tomorrow? lol

[shell hazel]

moran probably more important

she tanky girl

[rich ledge]

my helm has 15% cs

[shell hazel]

hard to say invest much here though if your campaign team is not fully done

[rich ledge]

is moran tanking or nero tanking more?

[shell hazel]

moran can taunt

[hollow lagoon]

nero also taunt

[swift mango]

And you a girl too everyone here are girls.

[hollow lagoon]

but the team works because of both units

[tropic summit]

nero reaches the highest dmg reduction in the game, moran can tank due to def% increase based on lower HP but will not reach the same damage reduction, which is the most op part of that team

[hollow lagoon]

no i'm a fish

[rich ledge]

i was just trying to reroll my vesti better but I could OL moran too first

[swift mango]

So a mermaid

[gritty ridge]

I thought lud had higher dmg reduction

[rich ledge]

but I look at the OL and non OL stats it doesnt add that much percentage wise right?

[tropic summit]

lud does not offer nero's DPS though

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-fish-launch-gif-14878073

[tropic summit]

it would be a team with very little to no damage

[gritty ridge]

Fair

[tropic summit]

in fact merry was running ludmilla for quite some time

then helmT happened

[hollow lagoon]

looks like 7 level worth

[gritty ridge]

Nah, thats 1 level

[swift mango]

The problem with Lud is that she gets her DR at full burst, by then she would already be dead.

[hollow lagoon]

[rich ledge]

OL or not is like 3mil hp vs 3m + hp only?

its not like difference of 3mil vs 4mil

at level 400 lock equipment OL stats doesnt add that much? OL is more for the CP and the rolls if needed, so I didnt OL moran as a priority since in CA CP is not needed and the HP gain is minimal?

[gritty ridge]

Chat imagine if lud was clip rl

[tropic summit]

unless biscuito

[swift mango]

Imagine if Moran was clip RL

[shell hazel]

imagine if Crow was clip RL

[hollow lagoon]

oh god

[gritty ridge]

I like lud more. bigger assets

[swift mango]

She herself survive doesn't do anything

[tropic summit]

hence why you don't see her played

[hollow lagoon]

imagine product 23 is clip rl

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

imagine this game gives you another 4 helmT burst gen tier nikke

[gritty ridge]

That would be nice

They should rerun emi so I can run miranda and it be good

[swift mango]

Imagine if RH was clip RL.

[gritty ridge]

I like rh cuz shes a gurren lagan enjoyer

[swift mango]

A drill can be RL too, u know?

[gritty ridge]

True

Just make rapis drills the only thing it shoots

And then you have new meta rl

[covert lintel]

Stop copium

[gritty ridge]

Copium is all that keeps pvp alive

[tropic summit]

pvp is already unlived

brute force all the defenses and just 💳 to victory

[gritty ridge]

And then you get to gamba yippee

[oak hatch]

What level does one need to be to join champion arena?

[tropic summit]

200

[swift mango]

It's hard to be creative when SU stop being creative and play safe after Jackal/Rossana generation.

[gritty ridge]

Ive been creative

[tropic summit]

damn right, this one hits the spot

[gritty ridge]

Ive never seen another bready indom team before

[tropic summit]

pvp never got its attention, will always remain spin off mode

[swift mango]

It's basically just devolved SBS.

[tropic summit]

it's because it's copium, but don't let it stop you

[rich ledge]

This team is so popular for defense

[gritty ridge]

Bready came after sbs, I am innovating

[swift mango]

The last time they tried to make a difference should be Quiry.

[tropic summit]

just 2 idiots copying each others

[rich ledge]

should be winnable with rosanna if I dont have 200k cp deficit

[swift mango]

Everything use a same mold now. High buffing skit, slow burst gen. High burst gen, no great buff. And Power creep, DMG + burst gen overtime.

They are playing it too safe without adding unique ability to boarden the playing field..

They made Mana and Eve but they got many restrictions and just got killed off by Rossana.

The only interesting thing recently are Cindy accidentally bring out the tricky mechanic since school rei but wasn't noticed because School rei was bad.

And the various untold seasonal buffs ofc.

[rich ledge]

id rather not keep introducing new meta... my resources cries

[swift mango]

More like new mechanic. Like how yugioh getting this large from just summon and attack.

[gritty ridge]

I do not like what yugioh has become

I miss 2012 yugioh