pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

right in the middle

[quartz rover]

Can you use xanne for spa? Seems kinda pointless

[shell hazel]

not really no

[quartz rover]

Putting lots of recourses into a healer

[shell hazel]

she's healer + res + atk buff

so if someone dies and ros fires + she b2 someone comes back to life

that is one of the main strengths of her

[quartz rover]

Ill do a 10 pull on her banner, if I dont get her then oh well

She probably has higher burst gen than other revivers

It's a oh well angle

[shell hazel]

yeah you'll be fine without her appearing

she's not a critical piece to play

[quartz rover]

I did another 10 pull and got her

[shell hazel]

[quartz rover]

I got pretty lucky from the rerun banner

Got sanis in 10 pull, shelm in 20 and Anne in 20

[shell hazel]

4/4/7
R-15 (SR-5 later if possible)
basic OL

I only did the 4/4/7 so far lol

yeah I got sanis nice and early, shelm and xanne took me about 100 pulls in total to get all 3

[quartz rover]

Oof

[shell hazel]

100 is OK for 3 new units

[quartz rover]

The free 10 pull I got gave me sanis

[shell hazel]

yes same here

[quartz rover]

Which is what I was worried about the most since she's the best of the batch

[shell hazel]

I can live with that as it's possible to do 100 and get 0 units

[quartz rover]

I want winter maiden

Thats my luck with standard banner rn

Every 10 pull I've done on it recently has been purples or blues

[shell hazel]

only issue with xmaiden is her gen is decent clip SG level and she's low feed but if we get more units like jackal or centi etc she could get squeezed out somewhat

[quartz rover]

I've gotten to the point of not even caring about having 10 before pulling

[shell hazel]

same for LapT, situational unit

[quartz rover]

I dont have lap

[shell hazel]

I run them both as you could see but I could see a future where I didn't

or didn't run both at least

[quartz rover]

It would be nice to get Noah, id prefer her over scarlet

Although both would be fine to me

[shell hazel]

s.anis has no real place here even if built, which is why I think her SS rank in pvp is too high on prydwen

[quartz rover]

Isn't sanis good for a lot of difficult comps though

[quick lake]

Prydwen’s pvp rating is for atk pvp primarily

Not defending

[quartz rover]

Like she can burst down Noah and stuff

[shell hazel]

I was looking to build mine sometime but it was more for pve than pvp

costly unit though

[quartz rover]

Doesn't this look like sanis kit

[placid bloom]

no

[quartz rover]

Her burst skill name is stupid LOL

I'm excited for ada wong

Shame they wouldn't do a chris redfield or leon

Considering nikke doesn't like to add dudes

[pastel owl]

pascal

[gritty ridge]

We could've had a yuni alt where they give her mr x hat and coat

This could of been our first new yuni

[swift mango]

It's more Alice kits if anything. She doesn't even buff anyone but her, so more like B.Milk

[swift mango]

It's basically her fan nickname.

[quartz rover]

I don't really know the lore of jill

I think she was in the pd

Raccoon city

[swift mango]

Yeah, a member of a special police force and fight zombie. Became a half zombie herself in the end.

But this is her early version.

[quartz rover]

Wasn't Raccoon city like ground 0 for the outbreak too

[swift mango]

Yes.

[gritty ridge]

We should've gotten dumpster smh

[quartz rover]

I'm just glad Ethan winters isnt in here

[gritty ridge]

Why you hating on mushroom man

[upper harbor]

Regarding sniping, does SU take the game offline at the exact time or can it vary?

[gritty ridge]

Same time I believe

I hope I didnt get sniped

I dont wanna have to climb back up from like 6th

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-saving-private-ryan-private-jackson-wwii-snipe-gif-21409137

[gritty ridge]

Hippo you better not be secretly in my bracket

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-i-am-james-luke-macfarlane-single-all-the-way-i-might-be-gif-24241767

[gritty ridge]

Ah you must be the leviathan

[wind kelp]

When the last match in SPA records shows "4 days ago"

[gritty ridge]

Thats 70 levels above me

[shell hazel]

that'd be me

your whale

[swift mango]

And you got sniped 45 seconds before reset.

[shell hazel]

well sniping now ensures your position at the start of the new season I think, well not right now, I think the maint is in 1 hour 18 ish

[wind kelp]

Totally possible 😄 They do have to navigate through 5th->3rd, or oine of the whales comes back from holiday

[swift mango]

Sleep one hour before reset just to wake up D30.

[wind kelp]

And the ones who do fight for 5th aren't "awake" as it were, one comes online in about 2h, the other in 4h.

hides excel sheet What do you mean i'm stalking my opponents?=

[gritty ridge]

I cant play, im in my worst nightmare

Jury duty

[swift mango]

It's less than average so it's fine.

[shell hazel]

yes as I said I was happy with that

[upper harbor]

I still gotta get rupee and neon would just be to get a copy though. Any speculatory consensus on the RE characters for PvP?

I probably should save for all the upcoming events

[shell hazel]

rupee and neon are skips basically

the RE colabs would be more useful

[placid bloom]

Ada is maybe usable for PvP

[raven plover]

Ada looks good, waiting burst gen

[keen vapor]

Jill is very basic single target attacking
Ada might.... Uh be a buffer for Vesti

[placid bloom]

Jill is like the 20th best Blanc target

only usable if you are new player and have nothing better

[stuck pike]

Ada likely to show up if burst gen is good enough. I doubt Jill does

[upper harbor]

I havent been attacked with your lineup yet @keen vapor but currently at dia2, I know I can snipe 7th. Might use more gems to try 4th or 3rd.

[keen vapor]

[upper harbor]

There's no way to check the lineups if you cant see them right?

[keen vapor]

No

[placid bloom]

don't use gems to swing if you can't hold the spot

you are better off using the gems for permanent gains, like doing extra wipeout or pulls

[upper harbor]

Well season ends on reset so its free gems.

[placid bloom]

permanent gains are for working towards holding the spot

swinging is just a temp gain and usually it's even a loss

your reward bracket won't change from sniping

[upper harbor]

Ill need to swipe to gain some CP ground on my ladder

[keen vapor]

Uuuhhhh
Your ranking is determined by the red tokens you have collected, not final landing spot

[placid bloom]

you need to hold the spot for x hours to gain points

[stuck pike]

Rookie is final placement. Special is average placement

[upper harbor]

Oh, didnt realise that. Thought it was position. Well that changes my thoughts on it XD

[shell hazel]

time in position > all

[upper harbor]

Gotcha, probably should've read the rules 😄

[stuck pike]

You could be #2 for 2 weeks and drop to #10 at the end but still average #2

[gritty ridge]

I should do that one season

Be 3rd for all but the last day and then swap all my units to lvl 1 units

[stuck pike]

I dropped to 5 but I'm not gonna waste gems to reclaim 2 on the last day. Im still getting my 3k and ca spot

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-face-mask-ryan-reynolds-why-why-though-gif-16044247

[gritty ridge]

I wanna experience the horde again

[swift mango]

You are overestimated the number of Blanc targets in this game.

[placid bloom]

I just made up a number

[swift mango]

Praying she hit 4 with her normal attack then.

[swift mango]

Ada gonna be BFF with Miranda. No longer miss the target for her 100% Crit skill.

@quick lake what is it?

Ein(covered)+Ada+Miranda maybe valid for next solo raid. Who knows.

[quick lake]

Liberalio leeks

I cant rmb who was the one that was waiting on liberalio

wanted to ping him

[swift mango]

@eager mountain

[placid bloom]

[quick lake]

SHE'S HEREEEE

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

you know, Liberalio's chest is a lot smaller than Hansel/Gretel's

those 2 are like cows

Liberalio is like Blanc

[hybrid fox]

should I prepare a new team ahead

feels like my teams are thinning out

[shell hazel]

Liberalio inc? 😮

[hybrid fox]

god dam it I crashed

[hybrid fox]

I lost

[placid bloom]

I forgot if Nayuta opens her eyes in the story

maybe she does, I can't remember

[hybrid fox]

umm here I lost 2nd team too

[swift mango]

#game-news message

[hybrid fox]

it used to win but now it lost

[swift mango]

Now this is what I call high quality 20$ skin. And basically no chance for a second Collab.

[shell hazel]

i'll likely wind up getting both the skins but it's because I want the tickets as well lmao

without the tickets I doubt I'd bother with most of them

[hybrid fox]

(I won before but I just loss now & shift up didnt told me how

[gritty ridge]

Which teams did what

[hybrid fox]

the first 2 prob lost

[swift mango]

T1: Vs 2rl Cindy, Maybe Noah steal taunt before and Siren stunned her, not anymore.

T2: SG vs Moran, their Moran could be tankier now and tanked all your SG. Even if you burst and killed Emi, it's still a clutch match if Moran survived.

[rich ledge]

Lol he tried to use the 2 free retries to attack me before maintenance but wasted one, I'll get the spot if he doesn't gem

[hybrid fox]

oh right I think b.soda dies now so

[swift mango]

Jill skill is basically a new character altogether... If she got new burst scene too it's would be 60$ skin selling for 20$.

[hybrid fox]

last moment she had more hp till blanc burst and then she dies kek

[swift mango]

Yeah, that explains

[hybrid fox]

😢

[rich ledge]

Yay maintenance time

Free arena stability for next 7 hrs

[wild patio]

SNIPED

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-laugh-gif-23588521

[shell hazel]

snipe successful

[shell hazel]

• tomorrow

SPA ends today so not back until following day

[wild patio]

he noticed me sniping on 1 min before maint, little did he know I spend extra 100 gem to snipe in last 10 sec till main screen

[rich ledge]

Start out with a defender advantage is important

They are always behind if trade blows

I was refreshing until last min to check I wasnt attacked

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel the most intense pvp ever

[shell hazel]

I wound up 530K good enough for me was 3rd haha

am too old to keep up with the younguns zooming along 😄

[rich ledge]

I could only do 100k once for the reward

[hollow lagoon]

i'm 34yrs tho

[shell hazel]

with android enhancements

[rich ledge]

I'm 34 too haha

[covert lintel]

7hours???
Isn't it the end of this season?

[rich ledge]

yea so at least for for 6 hrs then

from maintenance start to arena end is 6hrs right?

oh 5

[covert lintel]

Not 6hours
30hours

[rich ledge]

haha i dont think we need to count in the rest period theres no points to be gained

[covert lintel]

[rich ledge]

at least this timing is much better than the reset time for me

i can sleep peacefully

[heavy hearth]

I think I finally made it into champions arena. I don’t expect to make it far at all but what are my best bets for teams?

[covert lintel]

Oh right
I forgot to use up my attempts

Busy with other game

[rich ledge]

the default is 1 scarlet, 1 cindy, 1 shotgun, 1 moran nero and 1 vesti, how many of these can you form?

[cunning crown]

Same. Forgot to countersnipe spa rival and I just know he remembered

[rich ledge]

you try to form those 5 teams I mentioned then can we see how to tweak it

[shell hazel]

[rich ledge]

Some sample CA

This was before vesti so you can have a vesti team as well

Everyone is roughly using the same 5 CA teams

[hybrid fox]

how to change my uhh teams

idk if any variant of scar can slash their team2

& blanc Emi team 1?

[lunar pawn]

Forgot to snipe before maint

I'm cooked

[umbral crown]

[heavy hearth]

Missing the majority of these, my built Nikkes end on the second picture with anis

[umbral belfry]

jumpscares u

[rich ledge]

Just focus on those few characters then, CA doesn't have CP deficit so you can just build them Abit and try your luck, in the long term you will need them if you wanna do CA

[hybrid fox]

[hybrid fox]

my winning teams lost

[umbral crown]

Blame

[hybrid fox]

I need

[umbral crown]

Do you

[hybrid fox]

yes

new teams

[umbral crown]

Vesti emi

Meta

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor daring today are we

still not having claimed before maint, ultra b4lls deep

[placid bloom]

5 rookie attempt

[umbral belfry]

he's doomed

[placid bloom]

10 advise

[umbral belfry]

maint isn't over for a long time

[tropic summit]

rest in pepperoni

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

maybe missed sim too?

[tropic summit]

🍿

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

unless he don't do OC on reset

and only do normal sim

[umbral belfry]

to be fair there's an OC update coming no?

bc I didn't grind OC buffs either

[placid bloom]

well I just auto OC25, too lazy to 50

[umbral belfry]

just did my daily and dipped

[placid bloom]

don't need buff

[umbral belfry]

you mean i spent hrs grinding for buffs

just to find out I didn't need them

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

I been auto OC25 since like sync 240 or something

[umbral belfry]

I THOUGHT WE NEEDES THEM

[placid bloom]

you out here grinding buffs

[umbral belfry]

this is echo's fault

[placid bloom]

you need buff if you doing 50 or infinite

but who does that in PvP main

[tropic summit]

someone got misinformed

[shell hazel]

Echo!

I just auto OC25 for a while as well. No need for any buffs. Don't really care for the higher levels atm 😄

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

Hime, check your dm

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry you betrayed Arcana

[thin plank]

So, I do pretty well in my PVP but not great. I want to build out a team just for PVP but I'm only 3 months in and don't have all the characters. I was thinking of Jackal, Mana, Crown, Modernia, Summer Anis. Does this work?

[round torrent]

What are the best 3 burst 3 nikkes for pvp?( I dont have scarlet)

[vapid lake]

u auto? I skip battle with blue cp

[hollow lagoon]

helm vesti xmaiden

[round torrent]

A wow

I though cindy and sbs gonna be there

Damn ok thanks

[hollow lagoon]

absolutely need helmt for burst gen

vesti is strong af dps

[round torrent]

Oh I mean to burst with

[hollow lagoon]

xmaiden is good burst gen that does things

i gotten top 16 without cindy in my comp

idk if best

[round torrent]

It doesn't 😭

[hollow lagoon]

sbs got replaced ish by vesti

[round torrent]

I dont have vesti either

So I stick with sbs?

[hollow lagoon]

ye

[round torrent]

Shes 98% ele 40% atk

[hollow lagoon]

also Sanis

[round torrent]

Oh sanis is goo?

[hollow lagoon]

that's a stacked sbs good for u

sanis always been pertty good

[round torrent]

Oh ok, help this guy bro u seem to know allot

I never was too much into pvp

[thin plank]

Yeah I'm trying to not use my normal teams. I heard Jackal is good, but I don't have SBS or RRH, or RH even. LOL

It would probably help if I posted my roster but can't access cause of maintenance

[umbral belfry]

I did what i had to do

[hollow lagoon]

[covert lintel]

Oh many ppl forgot to use free attempts

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-take-our-secrets-chozen-toguchi-cobra-kai-industry-secret-family-secret-gif-19868230

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/idont-remember-asking-confused-funny-gif-14841122

[covert lintel]

Secret for teaming up in spa?

[tropic summit]

they share the same scarlet

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-rezero-rambling-silly-gif-12258895905377246546

[shell hazel]

our scarlet?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

[shell hazel]

Hime is NA I'm global

[tropic summit]

Hippo gonna be in my bracket in a few months

[shell hazel]

yes comrade

[shell hazel]

I really shouldn't ever be lol. when did you start exactly?

though my CA bracket includes people who started 2-3 months before me atm

we even had someone running around with s.anis before any of us could get her 😄

[tropic summit]

moran banner

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/when-did-this-happen-bobby-canavale-colin-belfast-homecoming-curious-gif-16450973

before cindy and last anni I was but a baby

👶

now look at me all shiny and chrome

with Nikke offline I may try out the Sky 1st chapter demo this evening instead

[covert lintel]

Me
I cleared infinity until now

[shell hazel]

fake pvper 😄

[tropic summit]

filthy pve main

[shell hazel]

Rail have you played the Trails in the sky games?

also the video for this genuinely looked pretty good I thought

no character gacha so going the way of duet night abyss maybe

[coarse lake]

imo that's a bad sign

[covert lintel]

They're trying new system

[coarse lake]

they're gonna make money some other way, and it's not gonna be pretty

and it can't match the quality of similar games it's copying either

[late tiger]

NEWWWWW????

[shell hazel]

stealing children and selling them on the black market? 😮

[late tiger]

That is guild wars 2 system

[tropic summit]

i've played the cold steel series

i'm waiting for the remaster to play the original

[coarse lake]

guild wars 2 is mmo, that's fundamentally different

[shell hazel]

there is a remake out for sky first chapter that I was going to try (generous 6-7 hour demo)

[coarse lake]

what's there to keep ppl interested in the game? no way it has the depth of gta

[shell hazel]

have you seen the latest 7 min video? looks pretty interesting at least

[coarse lake]

prob some grindy progression system that makes you wanna open wallet

[tropic summit]

that would be an easy speedrun any% to EoS

[coarse lake]

most of the gameplay reminds me of spider man

[shell hazel]

ofc trailer can be hand crafted but I kind of like how it looks so far

[covert lintel]

I've seen it 3hours ago

[shell hazel]

they did rip off spiderman a lot here haha 😄

[coarse lake]

they make money with upfront cost, how's ananta making money long term

[shell hazel]

but I feel they're essentially ripping off a lot of games

[late tiger]

Same business plan, just slapped onto an animated gacha

[coarse lake]

cosmetic only monetization won't work

[shell hazel]

people do go a bit crazy for cosmetics sometimes, whether it works as a business model is hard to say

[coarse lake]

monetization is one issue, endgame is another, what's their progression gonna be

[shell hazel]

duet night abyss is essentially trying a similar thing, warframe model

[coarse lake]

bc spiderman games don't have longetivity that I know of

warframe model has grind and stuff, so there's endgame there at least

[shell hazel]

but people still play gta 5 online or w/e

or at least did, it was pretty popular

[coarse lake]

gta has way more depth and multiplayer replayability

[covert lintel]

I think that's a good sign
Cause gacha market is diluted already

[shell hazel]

video for anyone who wants to see/hadn't seen yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzzXYQ8zoQ

[coarse lake]

why would ppl play ananta when gta 6 is coming soon

[shell hazel]

i'm going to bravely run away and eat my dinner before it gets cold, brb 😄

[late tiger]

Cuz gta6 will be paid by playing per minute, at least the CEO wants to implement this system

[covert lintel]

Some ppl are even burned out to the gacha game

[coarse lake]

I just don't see how they can have longevity, the content pacing they need to keep player hooked if it's really like spiderman/gta would be insane

there's gotta be some grindy progression that's pretty important for endgame that they're gonna try to make money with

nte and ananta seem to be trying to sell the experience instead of character/story/gameplay, and honestly... I have low expectations

[swift mango]

When does maintenance end?

[coarse lake]

if I want experience I play a standard AAA/AA game with a price tag, there are much much much better games like that out there, like exp 33 or even the games ananta is taking ideas from

[tropic summit]

when you stop simping for crow

in around 4 hours and 14 minutes either way

[covert lintel]

4hours left

[coarse lake]

but I got azur prom and endfield for that og gacha itch anyway ig the other 2 doing something diff could be interesting

honestly I'm not overly looking forward to any of the upcoming gachas/ex-gachas, they all got some issues that will prob be deal breakers for me

[swift mango]

Okay, if I log in on time I won overfill my resource

[coarse lake]

for og gachas it's either unappealing characters or 50/50 system

[swift mango]

Could have log in but I went for a snap

[tropic summit]

just be like echo (although he said he already claimed)

[coarse lake]

I still find it a huge shame azur prom is catering towards BA audience

like where did the azur lane appeal go

[mystic rain]

IS PATCH OYUT YET

[tropic summit]

gacha needs to go, bring back games that reward people for their interest in playing them instead of not playing them

[swift mango]

BA and AL aren't same thing?

[coarse lake]

gacha is an easy way to have long-term playability, by artificially limiting it

the other way to do it is mmo style

[tropic summit]

that's the problem, it's all artificial, people that have control over their enjoyment can see way past that

[coarse lake]

as someone who wants longterm progression in games, I gotta pick between the outdated old mmos, the new trash mmos, or gachas

and currently gachas are the most promising tbh

[tropic summit]

this is true, those are our options and i hate it

[swift mango]

What's new trash MMo?

[tropic summit]

the only reason those thrive is because the community somehow settled and are fine with that

[coarse lake]

throne and liberty being one

[tropic summit]

they literally eat poison and buy poison and actually happy about it, somehow

[coarse lake]

I haven't tried any other new ones, others so bad I didn't even hear of them lol

[tropic summit]

keripo plays that one iirc

[covert lintel]

It's an error from blablalink
I remember claimed 5hours ago but it display 90%

[tropic summit]

or maybe you didn't claim...

[swift mango]

I mean, Idk what criteria for a MMO to be new trash.

[coarse lake]

released in last few years, that's the only requirement

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

bc there isn't a good mmo released in last few years, so by default they're all varying degress of trash

[tropic summit]

MMO is good until you realise it isn't

some sort of temporary journey

enjoy it until it burns you out

[covert lintel]

Nah, i always claimed outpost at 30%-40%

[coarse lake]

oh yeah there's blue protocol star resonance coming I think next month

[swift mango]

Is MMO from 2012 recent year?

[coarse lake]

low expectations as well

[tropic summit]

the last "good" MMO i played was PSO2

[swift mango]

How about 2010?

[tropic summit]

it actually rewarded people for skill instead of time spent

[coarse lake]

I played pso2 ngs for a bit

kinda got boring and dropped it

[tropic summit]

sad

[swift mango]

It's actually near last for me, I played Kritika online (PC version) afterwards.

[covert lintel]

Nah, i never hate any mmo
Every MMOs are good to me

[tropic summit]

oh wow that's also fairly old

[swift mango]

I remember horror story about people including me waiting for Kingdom underfire and other MMO for years just so they never came out ....

Oh wait, my last MMO was actually, Toram Online on Mobile.

[coarse lake]

I'm well past my mmo era now, gave up on almost all of them, tried ff14 (bad content schedule), black desert (gave me long term wrist issues), throne and liberty (pvp trash, deleted my progress bug), gw2 (bad content schedule), lost ark (p2w, alt-heavy), pso2 ngs (bad content schedule)

[tropic summit]

dayum you played quite a few MMOs

[coarse lake]

those are the main ones that I played more than a few days I think, reasons for quitting are my best guess, too many different ones to keep track of

[swift mango]

Still exists

[tropic summit]

i've heard pretty bad things about black desert in terms of p2p, as for ff14 many praise it as the god MMO but i never played it myself.

throe and liberty was supposed to bring very good pvp and guildvguild content... gw2 had good pvp ideas, while also somewat ok story progression, but felt boring after a while

[coarse lake]

most of the old mmos have content issues imo

[tropic summit]

lost ark felt like just grind hell on the other hand

[coarse lake]

oh ig black desert also had content issues, endgame was to grind mobs endlessly

[tropic summit]

i've a feeling people who played older MMOs would just never be able to get into it anymore

[coarse lake]

that's how I got wrist issues

[tropic summit]

we've had our good times and we're drained from that kind of gameplay

now we're oversaturing with open world instead

and gacha obviously

[coarse lake]

genshin took me from mmo hellhole and into gacha hellhole

[tropic summit]

until someone brings something fresh to the market, feels like it's gonna be just stale times

[tropic summit]

i had hopes for genshin, so much potential... only to see it go down the usual gacha path

[coarse lake]

but gachas being much easier to make than mmos mean newer games faster, and more experimentation (mostly by copying, but still), so I still got some hopes

[covert lintel]

The longest I played mmo is neverwinter

[tropic summit]

i dunno... feels like we going the path of quantity over quality, although hoyoverse and wuwa have shown very high artistic quality

[coarse lake]

oh yeah I tried neverwinter out a bit, prob didn't last more than 1 week, forgot why

[swift mango]

I didn't ever play black desert it was too late for me when it came to English.... During it's generation I played Archage and had fun stealing thunderstruck trees, cart, from people. Illegally cutting tree in non safe zone and getting kill. Growing shit under rock .etc

[tropic summit]

arknight is getting there too potentially

[gritty ridge]

Yall talking bout nerd games?

[dim sapphire]

This looks fun different game mixed into one

[tropic summit]

thug life blood

[tropic summit]

MMO were the nerdiest probably

the amount of time invested there

[covert lintel]

But the game itself is long lived

[gritty ridge]

Ive played 2 total mmos

[coarse lake]

I envy ppl who are happy with AAA/AA games that you play through once and just finish it, no need for long term progression

I never liked those, very rare exceptions

[gritty ridge]

Ive played trove and ive played wizard101

[tropic summit]

i think those can leave more lasting good memories than games you play over months

[coarse lake]

the game I played longest is prob forge of empires, browser rts game

[tropic summit]

a good story, a good wrap up gives you a better sense of achievement

especially so in good JRPGs at least

[gritty ridge]

Im more a fan of standard rpg's tho, like monster hunter

[coarse lake]

only reasons I quit was bc I progressed so fast and efficiently that i met my goals way too fast, and the game was taking way too much of my time

[tropic summit]

feels like what warframe did to me

[coarse lake]

but aside from that, 0 interest in rts

warframe I also quit bc I kinda reached my goals

I've quit warframe twice now

[tropic summit]

yep same

[gritty ridge]

Wait is destiny an mmo? Cuz i played a game similar to it

[tropic summit]

you get to a point where you essentially have near anything, then ofc content keeps coming, but you kinda done with it

[swift mango]

That game is all about abusing other people to get rich fast or pay up.

[coarse lake]

sorta, I consider warframe style games a bit different

[tropic summit]

you'd be a great DayZ player imo

[coarse lake]

destiny 2 had the best gunplay of any game I've played.... that's where the good part ends

[gritty ridge]

I played defiance 2050 if yall know what that is

I miss defiance, I heard someone's working on a reboot

[coarse lake]

that's what happened to me when the archimedes stuff came out, didn't wanna bother, so just quit

[tropic summit]

yep very relatable

and i feel like a lot of ppl burned out in similar fashion

ironically too much content is actually bad

quality over quantity imo

[gritty ridge]

Chat could I consider God of war ragnarok a visual novel

[tropic summit]

where's the datable 3d waifu

[coarse lake]

sure

I heard good things, I think watched a playthrough, not my style since no longterm stuff, but good

[gritty ridge]

Thats only visual novel dating sims, some dont have dating only eldritch horror

[tropic summit]

good ol higurashi

[swift mango]

My proudest memory was jumping down from flying ship into the war zone with supply cart up stream then swim down stream and get a shortcut to trade in for 50 times more profit on war zone.... But only worked once and getting camped killing by other player on the river afterwards.

[coarse lake]

that's the other problem I have with big games that have no long-term stuff... I can just watch a playthrough lol

[tropic summit]

PK in those games was wild

[coarse lake]

kinda what I did with elden ring, many playthroughs, actually playing it? ehhh pass

[swift mango]

Only in War zone or unsafe zone. I killed a guy in safe zone once and got imprisoned for a full day after getting killed myself

[covert lintel]

More like too much grind content is what makes people get bored.
If the dev releases something other than grind content, it won't get bored

[coarse lake]

problem is, if the content isn't grind, then content gets finished too quick

that's the problem with content in general, esp in those types of games

[gritty ridge]

Are there any visual novel dating Sims that dont involve weird psychological horror aspects?

[covert lintel]

They can make content that forces players to interact with each other such as a tournament or something like that

[shell hazel]

yeah I think so too and if no gacha then should be no pressure to grind daily etc

[coarse lake]

then they gotta make proper pvp, which is like a unicorn lol

[shell hazel]

the black desert single player spin off thing looks quite fun/chaotic

[coarse lake]

good and fair enough that ppl play it, but not required for those who are pure anti-pvp

idk if there's any pvp mode in a pve game that's done perfectly

[swift mango]

Arknight has became pretty fun pastime when I had the time to play it... Just have to grind for a year before actually having fun... Are you playing Arknight?

[coarse lake]

although I do think introducing a good multiplayer aspect is great for longevity, but I don't think pvp is the way

I think warframe's trading is something similar

[shell hazel]

I stopped playing pure MMO after getting burnt out on WoW

[swift mango]

Are adding PK to MMO considered PvP?

[coarse lake]

yes

involuntary PK especially is very hated

[swift mango]

I think PK is fun though especially open world PK. Could stress out at times but fun.

[coarse lake]

most ppl that are pure anti-pvp likely feel that way bc mmos haven't done pvp properly, so bad experiences

getting PK'ed when you just wanna gather herbs would be a bad experience

[shell hazel]

if I'm just grinding mobs I don't really want pvp that much usually 😛

[coarse lake]

that's the problem, too many casual pve focused mmo players for pve mmos with pvp to work well

[swift mango]

Eh it's not even PvP in my book, just killing.

PvP game mode when people equip to kill each other on a map exists. But randomly getting killed or kill is where the fun is at.

[worthy knoll]

PK in ragnarok, when MVP Boss is about to die pk the player, last hit the boss, then it suddenly drops a card

[coarse lake]

but if you make it voluntary, then pvp becomes a side mode that most don't interact with

honestly I think throne and liberty pvp is pretty good in general, I just dislike how necessary it is for progression

the pvp systems that I've tried were pretty good

[swift mango]

Well, just don't play in dangerous zone. I personally don't play game without safe zone.

[coarse lake]

yeah that's how it is in throne

honestly I'm fine with that system, was fun purposefully trying to go into pvp zone bc of boss in there

throne just messed up imo bc of how important it is that your guild doing well in pvp is for your progression (iirc)

[swift mango]

Or if selling goods there yell 50 times the original price... Ofc those got exploited by big guild with escorts... Lone players would just get killed 9 out of 10.

[coarse lake]

I do like proper trading system in mmo yeah, but I think most of them can get exploited too easily

black desert trading I think I liked, although didn't interact too much with it

my problem with mmos, is that out of all the mmos I've played, if you combine all of their individual good parts, then it's prob the perfect mmo for me

but it might not be perfect mmo for large audience, or simply too difficult to make

gachas are just much simpler in general, simpler systems, easier to churn out

[swift mango]

I think Archage has the most good part out of all the MMO I have played, mainly the economy and player interaction system.

I remember people stealing cart car and destroyed it down a cliff but not out of bound so the other players couldn't recall it for days.

The most evil thing someone could do in an MMO considering each person could only own 1 cart car slot.m in that game.

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

I still remember posts like, "it has been 3 weeks/months and my cart is still not coming back (+- even with guild mates help finding), so I had to start a new account/Want to quit.etc"

[shell hazel]

that just seems like dumb game design to me

[swift mango]

They just need to find where the thief park their cart in so they could recall it.

The map is small enough but somehow people keep finding weird spots that couldn't be found

Put the cart into war zone or out of bound and it could be recalled asap.

[coarse lake]

when does maint end

[swift mango]

It's when the maintenance begins.

[placid bloom]

3 hours if no extension

[violet spoke]

After it begins

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

if we have sudden nuclear winter we have no maint end

[swift mango]

If they nuke Iran would Korean lose internet?

[shell hazel]

it's not 0% chance of happening

[violet spoke]

What are the odds shiftup goes bankrupt before maintenance ends

[shell hazel]

more than 0% also!

[placid bloom]

100%, so you should quit right now and pick up a new game

[shell hazel]

and can I have all your stuff?

[swift mango]

Well, there would be a messenger about it.

[shell hazel]

carrier pigeon

[swift mango]

Mouse mailer.

[swift mango]

On the topic any good city builder game that make you feel like you are actually building a kingdom?

[placid bloom]

Idk, kingdom simulators not really my thing

I don't even play the housing sims that most games have as side game

base building or w/e

[swift mango]

Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim

Was the best I ever played but it's just old eagle view strategy game like red alert. No actually a city builder.

[placid bloom]

RTS not the same as builders

[swift mango]

But that RTS in particular makes you build a whole kingdom.

Ah Black and White too. Playing god.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/frostpunk-cold-weather-gif-27003437

my fav city builder game

Frostpunk 1

[swift mango]

Need actual game play instead of cut scene....

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpaFE6_nDJw

just hear the damn music - it's epic

[violet spoke]

2 was also good but not a fan of some of the mechanic changes

[shell hazel]

nah 1 was way better

[swift mango]

The original idea of city build game came from Stronghold: Crusader. A RTS with lots of fun interaction with building and NPC. You should check it out. It was like the father of City building genre today....

[shell hazel]

it's basically victorian steampunk tech, you gotta keep the generator going and send out your limited workforce to gather resources

people die

you have to add sawdust to the food to stretch it out

or send the kids into the mines (worth)

temps go to like -100C 🥶

played all the missions on the hardest difficulty was a fun game, it's kind of like a min/maxers dream lol

[violet spoke]

Wasnt a fan that i couldnt see my child labour in action in the second game

[shell hazel]

every assignment matters

people hate you for making them work 24 hours emergency shifts but the necessity is sometimes there

[swift mango]

I mean, is there lots of interactions with NPC citizens? The most important matter to me.

Ah the best City building game I played was actually Romance of three kingdoms....

[shell hazel]

every citizen has a name I'd say you're a level above that

though you can zoom in and click people

the base game is an absolute steam at £2.49 UK money at this time https://store.steampowered.com/app/323190/?snr=1_5_9__205

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I did like the DLC, the game of the year stuff, there is like 5 main campaigns to do and they all play differently

[swift mango]

Thank you I would check this out. Lost touch with PC games after 2013.

[shell hazel]

I did them all on survival mode where everyone gets sick easier and it's generally harder

but each of the main campaigns plays quite differently

so what works on campaign 1 does not work on the next

[shell hazel]

np I liked it a lot, was a very memorable game to me, one of my favs in recent years

tons of atmosphere 🙂

[swift mango]

I check some video and it only showed eagle view gameplay, not a single NPC interaction.

[shell hazel]

you rarely do so, it's a level above it in terms of management

I mentioned that above

you can however send a kid to die if you're about to blow up the generator and you need someone to plug the hole 😄

[swift mango]

Then it's ain't it chief... I rather reinstall black and white to grab my citizen and give it to my pet to eat.

[shell hazel]

fair enough

I actually don't want that level of micromanagement usually

the population of your city is typically quite low though, 100-200 max

[violet spoke]

Is that still a city builder then or a colony sim?

[shell hazel]

it's a city builder certainly

[swift mango]

Are there new kids born with new names that you could send to die?

[shell hazel]

I think as you're like a mayor role but you're even kind of above that in terms of action

actually don't think kids get born the game span is quite short, days not months

[swift mango]

How about being a god? That people workship and you could ask them for sacrifice?

[shell hazel]

you take on the role of the mayor so no, not a god 😛

[swift mango]

So it's not "above that" to me.

[shell hazel]

though you can go down the religious path and have kids somehow magically healing people by wishing for them to get better

well it's above that in the sense you don't know who anyone is lmao

[swift mango]

Can you ask the kid to go kill his neighbor though?!

[violet spoke]

Reminds me of Rimworld

[shell hazel]

what real life mayor knows no one in their small city?

hence you're a level above it, sat above the city but acting kind of as the mayor

if you want to get kids to go kill their neighbours it's not the right game chief

[swift mango]

Black and White is pretty legendary I would say. Way before its time.

[shell hazel]

play crusader kings

all manner of character interactions in that

[tropic summit]

pretty sure that's how serial killers are born

[shell hazel]

I found black and white a bit too shallow in the end tbh, it's all surface deep

peter molyneux has a lot to answer for

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[swift mango]

You serve as a god to beat up other gods with some side mission interactive with environment and npc along the way. And it was 2001 games. There was B&W2 too.

It was pretty straightforward if you think about it.

[shell hazel]

which also meant it wasn't actually that much fun

I find sandbox games get boring for me pretty quick

[swift mango]

Being a good God is harder than being an evil one.

[swift mango]

I did that too in another game.

[shell hazel]

there is a reason he is called blood, Rail!

[swift mango]

Hey, throwing some mother and a child into the sacrifice table just to cast a spell isn't getting old that fast.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[swift mango]

I remember I was able to throw a quest NPC into sacrifice table after finishing his quest just for the lol.

Just grab him quickly before he ran away.

Being a good God would be impossible without the trick to sacrifice magic balls to duplicate them. When human sacrifice gave the most Mana aside from magic balls.

[glad meteor]

A game called Just cause allows some people to get creative

[swift mango]

Look fun but not city sim

[glad meteor]

What’s a city sim

[swift mango]

so what I could make a kid do? Healing people? Using himself to patch a hole and dies? Anything else?

[glad meteor]

i don’t think I’ve played that genre

[swift mango]

I asked a game where you few like you are building a country for real.

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Okay I got generally how that game would be. Survival a few days with a group of people. Could be fun to check.

[shell hazel]

I like it not sure there is anything out there which fits your requirements otherwise 😄

[swift mango]

Guess games in those manga doesn't exist.

[swift mango]

Black and White is the closest to what I said to be honest.

Or Romance of three kingdoms...

Or Majesty

But they all old

RoTK has a new version every few years though.

Dungeon Keeper too if I have to stretch it.

[swift mango]

But only Poli, Viper, Anne, Blanc are real options. Maybe Bay, maybe.

Naga suck, so does Anchor

[mystic rain]

whos the best one

[swift mango]

Rookie: Scar+Blanc+Helm+RH+Jackal.

To be frank you are level bricked so investment doesn't matter. Check pin for Arena teams. Try to do at least 2 x 2RL teams.

[mystic rain]

how u have emilia but only sync 283 😭

[swift mango]

Blanc is the best in mirror. Follow by Poli.

XAnne is the best against Scarlet team.

[mystic rain]

blanc in sg team with no jackal/biscuit???

ah best vs sg team

....eh?

[swift mango]

There is also Makima

Viper only mentioned because higher burst gen

4 SG is good to kill p1/5 fast when you need it too

[mystic rain]

i thought viper is best in general cuz of water code vs nero

poli doesnt have the dmg in comparison

[swift mango]

You could actually use them both.

[mystic rain]

oh god

[swift mango]

Viper has good enough burst gen to take a clip SG slot.

[mystic rain]

im even seeing sugar as well

just for the ele

[swift mango]

Viper ded very quickly to Scarlet counter so the worst lone B2 option against scarlet team.

[mystic rain]

tru...

[umbral belfry]

@mystic rainCA champ run when

[swift mango]

when you get you 3rd champ.

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

wake up gentlemen and ladies, it's up

[placid bloom]

f still patching on PC cuz I just got home

[ivory violet]

Ada is a clip rocket launcher

We have a new meta unit

[placid bloom]

2s reload clip that's crazy

[umbral belfry]

NOOOO!!!!!

[thin perch]

NOOOOOO

[shell hazel]

nooooooooo

[keen vapor]

WHAT

[mystic rain]

when i pull cindy

and 2 more laplace dupes

[cunning crown]

nice, knew waifuing her in 2005 would pay off someday

[lunar pawn]

I wanna know if that's cope

[mystic rain]

and IF I EVER GET 2 AMMO LINES ON MY VESTI

[keen vapor]

C'MON I ONLY WANTED 1 COPY AND THAT'S IT, NOT A MUST MLB

[mystic rain]

PLS VESTI PLS

[ivory violet]

wait nvm ada is not a clip RL

[thin perch]

Wait

[ivory violet]

xd

[thin perch]

Are we sure?

[cursive pike]

are the hq molds bugged?

[thin perch]

Please god don’t make her meta

[glad glade]

@umbral belfry Nero MLB’ed. One step closer to stall team

[north brook]

Clip rl always have abnormal reload timers, 2s is not that

[umbral belfry]

YEAHHHHH!!!!!

[keen vapor]

You scared me

[umbral belfry]

jump that guy

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

[mystic rain]

or if they have on hit effects that also count as extra burst gen

like xmaiden

[keen vapor]

Yeah let's jump him for misinfo

[umbral belfry]

@ivory violet may your anni rolls be cursed

[lunar pawn]

You should join the MA team

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-23036054

[ivory violet]

😿

[cunning crown]

tricked again

[umbral belfry]

jump that guy

[shell hazel]

ah cool they added this, it is a 1:1 trade?

[lunar pawn]

she's safe now

[keen vapor]

No
We payed 1200 for 5 of those

Is like, .8:1 trade

[shell hazel]

still you can get back 100% SSR pity thing I suppose

[keen vapor]

Don't use molds yet

[covert lintel]

[keen vapor]

#1420169131931467846

Guys, don't use molds

[covert lintel]

What bug?

[gritty ridge]

So chat how is ada's gen?

[shell hazel]

i'm expecting like arcana level etc maybe?

[umbral belfry]

open them echo nothing will happen trust

[lone sequoia]

awfull patch, less mats, the exchange is bad and more bugs

[shell hazel]

less mats?

[keen vapor]

no
I was going to open at anniversary anyways

[keen vapor]

The exchange is 20% worse than buying and 100% better than nothing

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-clenches-fist-of-rage-rat-clench-fist-rage-gif-20880451

[swift mango]

What are those purple pull?

[lone sequoia]

no more free adv tickets, just new collabs pulls that only last the same duration of the event

[shell hazel]

and 0 rocks from kraken again lol

[lone sequoia]

we got some of those during nier rerun

[lunar pawn]

so how's ada's burst gen?

[shell hazel]

what is this junk

[swift mango]

20 collabs pulls are pretty huge, There is also event shop. They didn't give as much ticker before anyway,

[shell hazel]

blood where are my rocks

[quartz rover]

Anybody cooking with ada?

Got two from my first 10pull on the banner and hoping she's good

[swift mango]

to elegg vacuum cleaner,

[covert lintel]

It's RE collab pull

[swift mango]

ready to get your 2 harran?

[lunar pawn]

new molds bugged, apologems incoming

[swift mango]

wut?

[covert lintel]

Who? Ada wong?

[swift mango]

where did that 195 red mold came from though?

[covert lintel]

Echo said bugged

[lunar pawn]

#1420169131931467846 message

[covert lintel]

Idk
I check the tower tribe, they are still giving out old mold

[tropic summit]

common sense dictates to not do a thing shortly after a patch is applied, especially with resources

[tropic summit]

more molds to make up for bugged molds surely

[lunar pawn]

also gems, ada ate like 15 multis until she showed up

[swift mango]

I think the "new" was actually fail pull that give you guaranteed mold fragments.

[tropic summit]

dafuq you guys already rolled

wait at least for ppl to show numbers

[lunar pawn]

some people pulled 5 characters but were sent 4 dupes instead (they owned all characters)

[swift mango]

Her skill 1 isn't hard to understand. Basically Miranda best friend, and Maxwell powercreep in supproter role.

[covert lintel]

How about open 1 by 1?

No one do that?

[lunar pawn]

check the thread to see if more people are posting their cases

[keen vapor]

But I need to pass mirror container

[swift mango]

I don't think Ada would help you with that but okay

[keen vapor]

Why

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

[raven plover]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[cunning crown]

[silent sonnet]

how's the new girl in pvp?

[lunar pawn]

people too busy freaking out with new molds

[tropic summit]

give em a few days

we gonna have our heroes calculating burst gen soon enough

[silent sonnet]

are they bugged or something? i was expecting way more molds than 1 of each

[tropic summit]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1420169131931467846

[wooden hedge]

is there a best team atm?

[tropic summit]

no undefeatable team, although there are teams with better win ratio than others

you can check pinned post for ideas

#pvp-arena message

[scarlet adder]

Ada good for pvp? or too soon to ask :D?

[covert lintel]

Btw no change for purple mold?

I was saving up for nothing if it is

[tropic summit]

her kit has potential, her burst gen doesn't seem to though

[silent sonnet]

not for nothing, wait till they also add milk and you can try finding them 😄

[keen vapor]

It's purple

[bleak shale]

ada is regular rl gen, sheet updated

back to mia from this chat

[covert lintel]

Nah, i want vesti instead

[round sphinx]

does rosanna counter scarlet/trina with scarlet in p1?

[swift mango]

Come home with milk dad!

[swift mango]

I didn't even save gold mold let alone purple.

[wooden hedge]

are bay and moran bad?

[covert lintel]

Every bunny liked me, so they will come even if i don't save for them

[gritty ridge]

I dont want this

[swift mango]

woa lucky.

[gritty ridge]

Its on scar

I need attack and ammo

[swift mango]

scar only need 1 amml though

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i dont have any

If it was ammo and crit rate line 2 and 3 i wouldve taken it tho

[tropic summit]

thank you for your service good sir

[swift mango]

Best roll Moran.

[tropic summit]

rosanna can punish scarlet for 2 reasons:

-she's generally ran with jackal, rosanna will break jackal link with scarlet, negating shared damage, while also nuking attackers, first come first serve basis (scarlet is generally in exposed positions)

-as scarlet won't be full HP, it's easier for rosanna to 1hitko (scarlet inflicts self damage)

[tropic summit]

no, they're quite good, situationally.

moran is core unit for nuke resistant teams or stall teams
bay is core unit for variation of nuke resistant or nuke immune teams

[covert lintel]

you should save it

[swift mango]

I'm bricked anyway

[covert lintel]

Wow i got ada

[wild patio]

suck it vincejr

[tropic summit]

same burst gen as noise

[lunar pawn]

is it up in nikke work?

[swift mango]

Much better than Maxwell already

[covert lintel]

It's mag rl after all

[swift mango]

That was close

[river moat]

how is ada wong looking for pvp

i bet im the first to ask this question arent i

[lunar pawn]

did anyone test how ada's buff works? does it only buff the previous b3 for that burst, or all b3 that burst at least once in the fight?

[covert lintel]

I thought there would be a quick battle for this

[wooden hedge]

are there any teams with I can run? the pinned guide only has moran but it says not to run it

[tropic summit]

would need to see your box to see what you can run with her

moran and bay need teams around them

[swift mango]

Guess I should have saved huh?

[wooden hedge]

I have everyone except bunny milk, summer neon, christmas rupee, emilia, csm collab, mari, and drunk scarlet

[tropic summit]

buff is applied to B3 even if B3 wasn't cast at least once already

[violet spoke]

I might have to quit after this

[tropic summit]

you can test this on your own in union shooting range

[swift mango]

You got half the mold back alright

[covert lintel]

#1420169131931467846 message

[violet spoke]

Its not about the bug

[round sphinx]

I see, thanks. does Rosanna also remove the invulernability and HP buff given to Scarlet by Trina though?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[violet spoke]

I also pulled her last week

[tropic summit]

jokes aside this is nothing, you'll see way worse with molds

[swift mango]

He mean if the Buff would apply to B3 that didn't cast buff that cycle if she already cast burst the cycle before.

[swift mango]

Woa lucky

[covert lintel]

@swift mango you jinxed me

[raven plover]

9k gems

huge

[tropic summit]

buff is NOT applied to the unit that did NOT cast B3, even if was previously cast

[raven plover]

ser its huge for him, he always 2 or 3 digits gems without K

[swift mango]

So we have the best support for Miranda right here.

[tropic summit]

in the example above:

• 1st B3 was SBS, she got ada's buff, helmt did not
• 2nd B3 was HelmT, she got ada's buff, SBS di not

essentially, ada will give the buff only to the B3 that has cast B3 that burst cycle

[raven plover]

how about gen ser? noise tier?

[tropic summit]

yes standard mag RL

noise exact same

[raven plover]

time to mlb

[swift mango]

Good luck with that

[tropic summit]

her buff essentially allows you to have life steal without having to run helmT as main B3

[raven plover]

no luck involved we gold tick

[tropic summit]

this could be useful if you plan your B3 to sustain herself without indom but with only lifesteal, a la s.anis + biscuit

invulnerable will still deny lifesteal although

[raven plover]

indom scarlet with ada lifesteal

[swift mango]

Good luck with that.

[tropic summit]

quite doable, a decent rookie team perhaps

[raven plover]

the edit

[tropic summit]

top tier paint skills

[raven plover]

you the goat

[swift mango]

Problem is that it get wipe before fullburst

[swift mango]

Is your shop for the 60$ costume selling any free pulls rail?

[tropic summit]

nope

only got 1 free attempt

which turned out to be x30 credit boxes, i'll take that

[swift mango]

Thanks

[swift mango]

I got 12 hour core dust so a bit better.

[umbral crown]

We pull then

[lunar pawn]

gg

[shell hazel]

yep same here

[coarse lake]

ada s2 is single target

she's just a worse xmaiden

[covert lintel]

ig there's really no magic to crossbow

[eager mountain]

eden spear side story does increase the cope but ye, didnt even run last sr

[swift mango]

Surely my Rapu must be in here.

[swift mango]

Does xmaiden buff Miranda target?

[swift mango]

Helm lifesteal is 5.5 times ada buff.

[coarse lake]

?

I'm talking about pvp

if you're worrying about atk prio for getting miranda buff in pvp, idk what comp you're even running

[swift mango]

Can Xmaiden buff Emi and make Miranda not target Mana?

[coarse lake]

why your mana that much atk

oh ig she has that s1

[swift mango]

Skill 1+2?

That's over 100% atk

My Mana has 0% ATk OL, 0LB but she would always eat Miranda buff no matter what

[coarse lake]

that's what you get for running such a niche comp

[rich ledge]

Oh yea I heard laplace treasure has higher burst gen after the patch issit true? I don't have her

[swift mango]

Here from where

[rich ledge]

CN forums they say that the laplace treasure now hits cover so theres more burst gen

[raven plover]

new seasonal buff, time to abuse

[eager mountain]

[rich ledge]

Look at this particularly

[swift mango]

Won't that give Vesti and Emi more burst gen too?

[rich ledge]

Yup go test it out haha

Not sure how much it gives or not give

[coarse lake]

lapt s2 now procs on cover yes

so higher gen, emi doesn't seem to do the same, still 1 cover proc

[covert lintel]

Can you join ca again?

[raven plover]

no ofkors

[swift mango]

Never

[dim sapphire]

did they fix the emi vesti bug

[covert lintel]

Now make me ca team

[swift mango]

First build your Nero team.

[raven plover]

do you have 21% cs redhood

[covert lintel]

Did that already
I just bench them in previous season

[raven plover]

is that rice on your pfp

fried rice

[swift mango]

Plain uncooked rice.

[raven plover]

oh yea I mean its multiple portions, he gonna cook it like michelin chefs

[covert lintel]

No i think
She has only 4x atk, 5% cs, and a lot of max ammo

[raven plover]

ok copy fahrenheit

someone did copy him and got top 8

[covert lintel]

I won't win champion like that

[raven plover]

yet*, we just need to believe boss

[swift mango]

You won't win champ with privaty.

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

[rich ledge]

Phew I haven't joined when re zero Collab was here

[covert lintel]

My biscuit speed now fixed

Only vesti and anis left for RL nikkes ig

[umbral crown]

you gold

[swift mango]

He joined this discord since 2022

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

@keen vapor I got past snek, you're falling behind

[keen vapor]

Blood and Rail don't believe on me to beat MC with Ada

Also, got 0 (+pity) rocks today, so not really feeling "lucky" to pull right now

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You got rocks?

[swift mango]

Max core her and you beat MC. Trust

[umbral crown]

im downloading the game, but yes. i got 4 rocks

[swift mango]

Had he ever not?

[keen vapor]

Kisama

[swift mango]

Got me 2+1 today. 4+1 yesterday but I used it for nothing.

[umbral crown]

yesterday got the rocks , echo. today maybe i get some

[dusky lichen]

hello everyone, ive been playing for around 3 weeks or less (f2p), and i guess i got lucky cause i managed to brute force my way into the game, problem is i'm very confused on how to make things properly now, can anyone help me with arena? ive been using the auto team feature but its probably not a good idea

[lunar pawn]

ada still bad after more testing?

[swift mango]

Bad?

[lunar pawn]

noise burst gen level

[swift mango]

Just use her with Vesti. She hyper buff her.

[keen vapor]

Well, nothing to do about that

[swift mango]

Red hood give out even less burst gen.

And less dmg buff to Vesti as well.

[keen vapor]

RH powercreep :blancry:

[swift mango]

Noise+Noah+Vesti+Ada+HelmT is a valid team

[lunar pawn]

but she'll slow down your team

[swift mango]

Faster than RH

[lunar pawn]

don't use rh anywhere

[coarse lake]

just build vesti properly, so you don't need to waste helmt

[lunar pawn]

tbf I don't run besti with thelm in SPA, I do in rookie

[keen vapor]

4 attack 4 CS?

[umbral crown]

quiry is noise burst level and we use her, vesti is not clip and we use her.

[coarse lake]

4 atk

[lunar pawn]

I don't use quiry, sue me

[swift mango]

You need Vesti with 21 CS on top of helmT to even be exactly 2rl.

[coarse lake]

noise noah vesti anis emilia

literally that easy

[keen vapor]

Despite not being clip she's the only one to speed up teams at every interval

[coarse lake]

if your unbuffed vesti can't kill teams like stall, your vesti is too weak

[keen vapor]

Without needing black CS

[swift mango]

If unbuffed Vesti could kill stall then that stall is too weak.

[coarse lake]

yeah max doll max skill cored stall is too weak

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

like sasuke

[swift mango]

Send full profile of the team you beat and what you used. From there team, their Research level to your team detail and your research level.

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

my blanc+thelm buffed besti can't kill rh+thelm buffed cindy

sr15 38% atk

[swift mango]

His Vesti is obviously just bugged or max core +100

Or buffed but said not

[coarse lake]

wasn't remotely close btw

[lunar pawn]

what?

[swift mango]

So where is the video?

You could just synch CS and normal attack kill Moran before she even burst.

[coarse lake]

1 atk vesti

my cs isn't sinced

actually built vesti

[swift mango]

Yeah my 4 ATK, 2 CS, 2 crit rate, 2 Ele is not built at all.

[coarse lake]

you tell me how synced 3 splash emilia can kill p4 p5 rapu xmaiden max doll