pvp-arena

[placid bloom]

you don't grow special plants in your backyard?

if you grow special plants you need a gun to defend your special plants

[swift mango]

I don't think they grow special plant but just make special flour.

[placid bloom]

you also need a gun to defend that

[swift mango]

Echo should belong to the 50% citizen who doesn't touch the flour making business.

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

I just did a quick google and Jill gun has a magazine of 15 in RE. So 9 is indeed odd choice. If I had to guess, they were just mirroring the SR ammo into her weapon, particularly Alice, because her play style is basically straight hardhitter like Alice.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah shift up does make decisions sometimes

[crystal flicker]

They just RNG-ing the ammo

[rich ledge]

She shoots similar to shotgun shotgun has 9 ammo

[gray grotto]

that's her handgun (Beretta 92F Custom 'Samurai Edge') but supposedly she is using the desert eagle since the weapon is called Lightning Eagle. but in RE series, the magnum is usually called Lightning Hawk

[rich ledge]

It would be good is she has clip SG burst gen but doesn't feed cos no pellets

[swift mango]

Well, Desert Eagle could have 9 Bullets I guess. But I searched Lighting Hawk and it has max 8 bullets.

[unique mountain]

One in the chamber

[mystic rain]

reminds me of sanis weapon

considered an SG but irl its an RL

[gritty ridge]

Im trying to test if a defense is effective in rookie and nobody is attacking me

[neon kelp]

help need a new team. im getting gemmed in rookie

current def is noah vestiTU emilia red hood centi, can I switch helmt for centi or is it bad? any suggestions?

[shell hazel]

i'll attack you

[tropic summit]

same, just did my 5 attempts all on you

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

[shell hazel]

my whale is so weird, gems to take spa1, then goes offline for more than half a day so I hold it 50% of the time anyway after reset

[tropic summit]

arena de-sensibilized you, normal ppl don't log on a gacha game generally more than once or twice a day

[shell hazel]

but why gem to take it if you aren't going for it? 😄

it would make sense if they weren't spending any gems to do so

[tropic summit]

it's a pride matter

he wanted to show he can beat you

[shell hazel]

ofc he can it's no contest

[tropic summit]

and he's "allowing" you to keep it

that's the average mindset of a chinnit

[shell hazel]

he can probably cp gap my teams if he wants to on attack, can't def it

wasn't really my goal, my goal is just to hold SPA1 without gemming

[tropic summit]

my chinnit has a similar pattern, used to try and face me on SParena, but he'd lose all defense attempts while still failing some attack, so what he figured is to just run 5 attempts on rookie where he can win easily

now he does that everyday, ever since more than 2 months

but at least he leaves me alone on SParena

[shell hazel]

I don't have the same whale in rookie

well we're coming up to 3rd season now since the SPA reshuffle and I've managed spa1 3 times in a row without much effort, and no gem

[tropic summit]

the way i see it just treat them like man child

give them their candies and they'll leave you alone

he wants to show he can beat you? let him

then he pisses off doing somethin' else anyway

[shell hazel]

kind of know they can anyway, it would be a more interesting contest if we had the same sync and such

they've invested all the core CA units + stuff like BayT and ViperT

so I can't bamboozle them with weird defences

[tropic summit]

wouldn't be much interesting, you'll run out of defense patterns and you'll both learn each others that you won't win a single def anymore

i've already went through that myself, it's meaningless

[shell hazel]

they could still try to out-cp me as is but I'm not miles off getting 401

[tropic summit]

that's equivalent to saying to not play pvp altogether anymore

[shell hazel]

once I do they'd need like 441 to out-cp me (421 atm)

[tropic summit]

which again makes the most sense

pvp is just a nuisance to get rid of and ensure you still get gems

(especially so in whales mind)

they want to log in, be done with it, see you in 24h

[shell hazel]

if they zoom up the levels to 441 whilst I'm barely above 401 it's over 😄

[upper grove]

I have someone who hits me for no reason than pettiness

[shell hazel]

yeah for me I'm just causing them some annoyance by poking them as long as I can haha

[upper grove]

Once he got back in my bracket

Even the sync whales don't hit me because we get same amount of gems anyway

And they are 50-60 lvls ahead

[tropic summit]

all allowed and motivated by SU

if there are no rules, you can be 100% sure that there will be toxicity

[upper grove]

Yup. He even changed defs like 3x a week until he gave up after I broke them each time. I haven't changed mine since the last time you cooked for me

[tropic summit]

changing def is actually fine, allows people to play PvP

attacking the same lad, everyday, for months? that's where maybe we've a problemo

[upper grove]

It was nice to test some things

This is basically my last 6 months

[tropic summit]

ah you swapping ch1 and ch3

[upper grove]

And I have to hit back because rank 5 tries to hit me

[tropic summit]

ye pettiness at its finest

[upper grove]

While rank 5 never hits him

[tropic summit]

this is reasonable, he's slowly breaking your defense so he wants to keep doing it on the same target

unfortunately, again, a mechanic motivated by SU poor QoL

[upper grove]

Rank 4 is 60 lvls ahead and just chilling. Rank 2 is 40 lvls ahead

[tropic summit]

brute force

[upper grove]

Yeah it gets tiring

[tropic summit]

the worst part is that defenses are limited in patterns, so he'll inevitably break it someday

and will learn from it

then he'll have easier time breaking them at first or second tries, which will motivate them to gem

and there you go, loop back and forth

[upper grove]

Just to entice them to spend

[shell hazel]

yeah I feel like I'll be stuck in the same loop myself haha

but my main goal is just to offer them the chance to gem as much as possible so they waste them, even if they don't care I call that a win 😄

[upper grove]

I'm the only one in top 4 who doesn't have all core max units

Collab and 1% core maxed displays on all of them

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll not core max the rare ones easily but I think eventually I'll get better core counts on the normal units, meanwhile my whale already has them core max mostly

like the odd extra core for centi or rumani or w/e

[upper grove]

They can't gain much while we do I guess

[shell hazel]

yes

[tropic summit]

they'll gain level advantage

[shell hazel]

the new molds will benefit us more

[tropic summit]

until very late game where cores will matter less

but they'll still hold progression advantage

it's like a race where you're falling behind everyday

[shell hazel]

actually my whale is slacking on progression

[tropic summit]

you'll fall behind a bit less in late game, but that's it

[upper grove]

The 2 synchro whales will get to 102 cd/h once they get past MC

[shell hazel]

I'm 31-20 and they're end of 28 hard mode

[upper grove]

Which is why I have to mald asap

[tropic summit]

that's common, most whales will not play on hard deficit

they don't need to...

[shell hazel]

true... || 💳 ||

[upper grove]

My whales are both at MC hard

The petty guy is still at ch 25 though

[shell hazel]

could auto it at that sync surely

[upper grove]

Oh for sure

421+ compared to us back then sub 341

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-red-easy-button-red-button-gif-4642542

[shell hazel]

even for a mobile malder

[tropic summit]

the other easy strat for whale is to just copy the exact same enemy teams but with gap advantage

mirror teams on CP gap advantage will generally always out trade

for example 2RL nukers may no longer be lethal, so even with CS% advantage, they'll still get past it

indoms will struggle, links will be easily broken, biscuit may stall only to get deleted once s2 runs out... and so on

makes the whole thing literally meaningless

[upper grove]

https://tenor.com/view/power-of-money-power-money-salute-gif-17440338

[tropic summit]

power of money, i can hear the battle theme starting

[upper grove]

His ability was so good

Cheap units

[tropic summit]

he's generally banned on https://awbw.amarriner.com/

kanbei and colin are god tier

[upper grove]

AW online

[shell hazel]

campaign malder like me, they're 401/end of 31 hard

[tropic summit]

i was honestly surprised at the activity there, there's a ton of ppl

[upper grove]

I love how the gif shows Colin vs Kanbei

[tropic summit]

and now i've collin theme stuck in my head

24 minutes extended version let's go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P9RrlVE0lA&list=RD-P9RrlVE0lA&start_radio=1

https://tenor.com/view/dance-anime-cool-gif-22556570

[upper grove]

Music: fun, upbeat
Reality: kills you by throwing stacks of money

[tropic summit]

yes, murdered by money

and more neotanks being produced this very moment

https://tenor.com/view/noobs-in-combat-roblox-meme-roblox-roblox-memes-game-gif-4254547499455443560

[upper grove]

As a kid I thought they'd design tanks like them irl

[wind kelp]

And that's the "last" doll done, moran got to sr15. NAmely that's all current pvp units dolled up :p

Now if i only could get her helmet from that damn bug before the LEague starts, that would be nice

[shell hazel]

I still need to SR-15 blanc and rumani but I'm awaiting details on how the new RE units are

otherwise I have some random CA stuff to do like bsoda and noir

and xanne needs SR-5 (currently R-0 lol)

confident I can get most of what I want done by the end of the year, although I'll likely need to save resources for the new pilgrim who will be pve meta in a month or so

[wind kelp]

Yeah i'm probably going into saving mode soon, take a moment to evalumatate and all that, also need to round up the ranks a bit. Ofcourse pumping levels into OL gear isn't a waste on unit i use in pve and pvp :p

[shell hazel]

I'm aiming for +3 on all my core pvp units eventually as well

and +5 on my dps

long long term I'll +5 everyone I use often

but I'll need to add some basic OL to pve units sooner or later as many are missing them and it makes the raids harder to compete in

[swift mango]

Darn, just get that Trina buff Jill.

Scarlet powercrept

[upper grove]

Idk if jill actually wants trina

[swift mango]

In solo raid probably.

[upper grove]

Increased ammo mag + huge atk dmg dilution

[tropic summit]

good thing you only spent 300 rocks on scarlet

[swift mango]

The guy in another thread already said, manual reload every 9 shoots.

[swift mango]

400

[upper grove]

Or just don't use trina with jill

[swift mango]

115% dmg buff.

[upper grove]

115% of what dmg

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

Trina s2 is 94% atk dmg, jill buffs her own reload

Jill is another 75% atk dmg

We don't even know if jill is better with true dmg comp either

Let's just wait math and tests

[swift mango]

S2+3 you don't activate s2 without s3. Both together is 115%

[upper grove]

Sure, her burst but it's still big buff dilution unlike with scar who has no atk dmg in her kit

[swift mango]

115% is huge, diluted or not. Like 60% AtK buff from Liter would never lose to 15% dmg buff from DKW.

[upper grove]

Opportunity costs exist for SR though

[swift mango]

What opportunity cost exactly? What better B2 for her? Summer Rossanna?

[upper grove]

True dmg comp, crown

Who knows

[swift mango]

You only have 1 crown. And crown isn't really better than Trina for Jill.

[shell hazel]

do we think Jill or Ada look the better pve pick? I'm guessing neither is good for pvp

[upper grove]

I won't discuss hypotheticals without math or units release

[shell hazel]

which I'm actually kind of thankful for as I'm not done building my existing pvp

[upper grove]

Not worth the time

[swift mango]

Remember that 20% buff from s3 of Trina buff all nikke. And the only good Generic True dmg buffer right now is Ada, a B3.

[upper grove]

Trina 20% buff is shit sorry

Bade is 55%

Mari is higher as well

[swift mango]

You only have 1 Ade and Trina buff Jill by 115%

[upper grove]

Ade grave mari crown 4 b2 higher atk dmg than trina while buffing all not only hyper buffing jill

Idk why we are arguing in the first place

Main point is just: is trina worth using with jill and is scarlet even being used this SRn if she is she desperately needs trina more than jill does

[swift mango]

(21+115)=68% on average. That's if your Jill isn't the hyper carrier in the team. Like Ada is a main dealer not a buffer bot for Jill at all.

Also, HP buff works on Cindy

[upper grove]

Anyway this shouldn't be discussed here

Okay blood let's not cope with hp buff trina on cindy, I had to use cindy rouge xmaiden scarlet trina for the longest time because no sanis, it sucked

[swift mango]

Well, against Ele weak boss, XMaiden with Ele buff is king.

But against neutral I just kick XMaiden out and use Cindy+Rouge+Scar+Trina+S.Anis

[solid gorge]

Im annoyed that majority of Abnormal Nikkes are Atkers. Whats the point of supporter and defender gear when they have 2 SSR each (and supporter also have lots of SR) and you cant get them anymore

[swift mango]

At least Ada is a supporter, B3 supporter is much rarer and better than another B2.

But yeah, they could have made a B1 SSR already. Missed opportunity to make Claire a SSR B1 Cdr.

Even if it means 3 SSR banner.

[solid gorge]

Ada is Atker....

[swift mango]

Her selling point is her s1, a strong universal support skill.

[solid gorge]

[solid gorge]

Still atk armor

I just understand that i can feed abn defender and supporter armor to OL gear for my next possible pvp units

[swift mango]

I know, I'm severally lacking Abnormal Attacker gear too. Especially after I accidentally deleted over half of my manu gears half a year ago.

[solid gorge]

Oh I KNOW THAT FEELING. I accidentaly forgot to lock the gear and fed it to my Jackal

[swift mango]

Especially when you lack rock and must do Kraken

[shell hazel]

maybe I can finally dupe out my RH a bit

[swift mango]

Yeah, and I'm continuing to be Rapu bricked.

[swift mango]

@umbral crown hope you still have your golden tickets for RH dupes instead of using it to buy Helm.

[swift mango]

I guess the game turnover rate final cause up to SU. They can't expect to make money solely from whale fishing Pilgrim on standard banner anymore.

New players coming to Nikke mostly got turned of by 160 Wall or no way to get old pilgrim and just quit. That's why most of Nikke active player came from year one.

I mean, in SEA server for example 2/4 CA bracket are month one bracket.

[leaden canyon]

funny enough I think I'm skipping the rerun pulling lol

I have core 3 hood

and I got no pulls anyway

need to save my gold mileage

[swift mango]

Same.

[leaden canyon]

also might have to use gold mileage in RE if I get unlucky

Ada looking like a must pull, if jill is meh I'm skipping

[swift mango]

With how her skill looking you expect her to be meta dps.

[leaden canyon]

Jill? idk her kit is weird, need to see numbers

Ada skill 1 buff is pretty universal and easier to include in teams

[wind kelp]

Ah, they graciously waited for me to pull RH to bring her in re-cruit 😄

[leaden canyon]

Yeah I read the kit, just need to see how she performs

[swift mango]

Her normal attack dmg is 71% much higher than common AR. That's already a hidden 300% buff.

[shell hazel]

for meta I'm typically fine with MLB anyway, but my RH is LB0 😄

I wouldn't worry about core 7 or w/e but LB0 is a little rough for a heavily used unit like RH

[leaden canyon]

You might also just get her from pilgrim molds on the mold update lmfao

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll do those first ofc

I'm planning to do social pulls / ord pulls / molds around anni before I pull for anything new

I've been saving

[leaden canyon]

depends on how much they give us

[shell hazel]

should get something for the cleared floors

[leaden canyon]

Like surley its at least 20 molds per tower for us vets with how high we are in tower

if its a 1 to 1 of the current mold amount we get its for sure at least that

[shell hazel]

i'm around floor 330-340 for manufacturers less on pilgrim

[swift mango]

20 each of Crow, Signal, Clay, Harran for sure.

[shell hazel]

I've not skipped many days on tower tries unless I needed more power

[leaden canyon]

wdym, 20 blues of course

[swift mango]

It guaranteed SSR.

[shell hazel]

I keep getting yuni dupes lately :d

[leaden canyon]

oh right

[swift mango]

Crow is better I guess.

[leaden canyon]

Crow treasure will surely stop the memes right?

[swift mango]

Ada is Crow treasure.

[wind kelp]

I'd say if Crow comes back, it'll be an event, but i doubt they'll overspec her just yet. Need other overspecs for other manus first 😄 That oooor....she'll go into the rehab segment with the other "reformed" criminals. Would be time to bring that one back 😄

A prison riot/breakout event to re-intro Crow would be quite something.

[swift mango]

In Soviet Missiles, you don't rehab Crow. Crow rehabs YOU!

[tropic summit]

don't give this man @swift mango funny ideas

[covert lintel]

Next update is new mold right?

[lunar pawn]

slower fire rate though, slower than scarlet's

so it makes sense

gotta see her actual performance vs electric weak bosses

[swift mango]

Well, normal AR is like 13% ATK for normal attack, so 71% is like 5 times. Her fire rate need to be 4-5 times slower than normal ar to even out.

[lunar pawn]

9 ammo too

so more frequent reloading

[swift mango]

she has 100% Reload buff on burst.

[lunar pawn]

her reload buff is only triggered on her own burst

[keen vapor]

Resilience gaming?

[lunar pawn]

always

[swift mango]

yeah, she deal most of her dmg on her burst anyway

Resilence+S.Anis/Trina.

[lunar pawn]

you won't pair her with sanis

[swift mango]

maybe in union raid.

[lunar pawn]

you can't break the holy matrimony of cindy and sanis

[swift mango]

depend on the new units dmg I guess,

[placid bloom]

Trina bricks her

[lunar pawn]

that too

[swift mango]

You actually only need to manual reload.

[placid bloom]

cuz she loses the skill 1 buff if she keeps shooting past 9 shots

[lunar pawn]

manual reload is so pepega

[placid bloom]

okay but that requires work

unless you use uh... special tools

[lunar pawn]

it's like saying "sanis is fine with ammo lines, just manual reload after every 1 shot"

well, that won't trigger last shot mechanic so maybe not

but you get the point

[swift mango]

@raven plover So your union name means Manual Reload.

[placid bloom]

[lunar pawn]

that's 99% of the malding playerbase

[swift mango]

S.Anis is last bullet though, I get your point but it's not work that way.

[lunar pawn]

manual reload is only feasible without losing actual dps if you use special tools, as mentioned above

[swift mango]

Macro intensify.

[lunar pawn]

jill's sustained dmg feels like a random addition

only srosanna buffs sustained dmg

[placid bloom]

it's just to pad her numbers for free

no other purpose

[swift mango]

because we don't have meta b2 that buff True dmg.

[placid bloom]

I would like my dps of choice to randomly have a permanent DoT too

[lunar pawn]

ssakura (if you break parts)

[placid bloom]

you mean EmmaT EunhwaT not meta

[lunar pawn]

didn't even roll for them

[placid bloom]

I swear if they give 5 perfect frag for every 20/30 manu floors cleared and you end up getting 1 manu mold every 200/300 floors people will rage

[lunar pawn]

people will rage regardless when they get 10 isabels

[swift mango]

1 frag every 5 floors.

[swift mango]

That's actually better than 10 harran

[lunar pawn]

not for me, mine's c7

[placid bloom]

well they already confirmed it's 30 floor for pilgrim and 20 floor for the others, they just didn't say how many frags

could be 5, could be 10, could be 1

[swift mango]

The pilgrim disrespect

[solid flare]

is this to slow or do i need to run something different?

[shell hazel]

probably true 😄

[placid bloom]

imagine all the other manu is 10 frag per 20 floor but pilgrim is 5 frag per 30

[shell hazel]

if you're not 2RL your b1 gets stunned by siren gg

[swift mango]

1 frag per 30. Take it or leave it.

[swift mango]

Replace Cindy with SBS or Xmaiden. In SBS case, quantum on rumani, Noah, Centi.
Also, move Noah to p2.

[solid flare]

pocari 4.04 4.63 4.92 4.92
biscuit 3.75 4.63 4.92 5.80
noah 4.63 4.92 4.92 4.92
cindy 6.09
centi 4.04 4.33 4.33 4.33

[swift mango]

You mean CS? It doesn't make 3rl into 2rl bro.

[solid flare]

i still cant do thr math if those change anything.

how much CS does SBS need again?

[swift mango]

zero

She does need 5% for dps reason.

but not for Arena.

[solid flare]

ok i have that much.

[solid flare]

noise seems better for this?

[swift mango]

same thing.

[solid flare]

as a stun target

[shell hazel]

switch centi p5

they have drakeT who is a SG unit will shoot at your p5

[solid flare]

yes they have a sg

[swift mango]

2rl b1 can't be stunned.

[swift mango]

yeah

[shell hazel]

yes 2RL b1 at p1 will always fire before siren stuns

[swift mango]

Noah actually doesn't need quantum

[lunar pawn]

who's faster, noise or noah

[gritty ridge]

Chat does 8% cs on helm put me at 2.5 pre feed?

[shell hazel]

nikke.work site sir

put team into that and then set jackal links and helm CS

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

do it

[gritty ridge]

Its too small to read on phone

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Ive tried using nikke.work

[shell hazel]

problem with helm here btw is likely she may steal link

you also have to check who jackal links with

for me helm often does steal it in a jackal team

[gritty ridge]

Jackal links rh and scar dont worry

If helm linked id probably put her at p2

Thats the team im trying to test lol

[shell hazel]

because I'm feeling nice 😛

it's about 2.5RL it's 194F where siren stun is 196F

this is no feed version

[gritty ridge]

Thx hippo

[shell hazel]

standard 2RL scar ver feeds you to 2RL

if opponent team is say scar trina rh anis(sr) jackal

[gritty ridge]

I cant really test this in rookie anyway tbh cuz scar just instakills literally every team now that I think abt it

Im suffering from success

[shell hazel]

I did it on mobile to see how bad it was lol

it's kind of annoying but you add the team in portrait mode and then go horizontal to read the chart lol

[gritty ridge]

Its very compacted compared to what yall post

[shell hazel]

I think the other deck site is easier to use on mobile

but yeah normally I'm a PC bro so it's all clear there

[gritty ridge]

Yeah the deck builder is my favorite

[rich ledge]

deck is for quick and dirty work is for hardcore

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[hybrid fox]

might be time to prepare a new team

[shell hazel]

why? you're winning 2/3. the scarlets are losing essentially mirror matches

scarlet losing to cindy, and then cindy losing to scarlet, that result shouldn't be that surprising if it loses on attack and it's what you're running against their scarlet to beat it

[glad meteor]

Soda is better than siren

[umbral belfry]

no meta collab pvp units god bless

[glad meteor]

Trust in ada cope

I wonder how she’d be in nero moran as xmaiden/lap+ replacement

[shell hazel]

without clip RL burst you won't really be quick enough to b1 moran before scar 2RL gets you I think?

[gritty ridge]

Ada can be no feed big buff

[umbral belfry]

stop

[umbral belfry]

stop

[gritty ridge]

Think of the doro b1 capabilities

Put ada there and now you have team nuke

Nah im just playing, probably won't see ada as a b3, just as a buffer

Quad buff scar

[lone sequoia]

is ada a RL buffer, no?

[solid flare]

i did not know how slow their team 3 was.

i have no idea how to manage the damage of my team 1

my team 2 is slower than i thought it would be because of siren.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[lone sequoia]

probably a filler for trio team in CA

or AoE team+noah

[lone sequoia]

rapu+sanis for cp?

or are you trying to stun with her burst?

[coarse lake]

nah

she buffs too late for trio

2rl vesti maybe, but being a mag rl makes fitting her in more awkward, need lapt/xmaiden tier gen

[gritty ridge]

Does she buff fast enough for scar?

Id assume not

[solid flare]

i was just screwing around team 1, i wanted to know how much damage i was going to take.

[coarse lake]

no

[tropic summit]

you act like you can't afford rolling 1 more unit

open thee

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

I used them for vesti

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel forgot it's that time of the year already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqXCK9tD7o&list=RDGvqXCK9tD7o&start_radio=1

https://tenor.com/view/september-september21-do-you-remember-dancing-in-september-macross-september-gif-18535865

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/freyja-wion-happy-anime-anime-happy-macross-delta-gif-17573677

[rich ledge]

Too thick can't kill 🙁

1 win 2 lose

The vesti is just a throwaway team

Maybe I could make a vesti team instead of using the scarlet Trina team with the Cindy team that already works

[shell hazel]

you need 2RL noah or bay for the scar team

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

you probably don't need noah for the blanc/sbs team considering they did like no damage

so you could free up noah to catch scar nuke then

[swift mango]

Hope she is your waifu enough to justify the cost. Like I used 800 gold tickets to MLB Elegg.

[shell hazel]

your vesti team may also out-trade on the cindy one if you tried it on it, you'd have to keep blanc off p1 to avoid dying though to siren stun

[swift mango]

You sure about this one? Was your Scarlet stun and Drake burst killing Siren instead?

[quartz rover]

Go away

Take the L

Moment he breaks through, my vesti and bay will be done

[gritty ridge]

Ill trade you

My rookie doesnt attack me

[covert lintel]

Now he put helmT on cindy siren noise team @swift mango

[swift mango]

So it became 3-3.5rl team.

[covert lintel]

Yeah, it's slightly slower than mine but he still won

[swift mango]

Just scarlet slash it if you could.

[fleet peak]

Any ideas on cracking this? I’ve been getting attacked 5 times a day 5 minutes before reset every day for awhile and I’m getting tired

I have most units except Emilia on hand, but not enough CP to mirror and overpower it

[keen vapor]

We never mirror

[keen vapor]

Tried Vesti Indom yet?

[fleet peak]

Right, forgot Vesti. Missed her banner unfortunately.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Tried Scarlet Siren Trina yet?

[fleet peak]

Tried and failed. It's a tossup if Siren stuns Moran or Noah. Wins if it hits noah, but usually doesn't.

[keen vapor]

Wym she should always hit Noah the fastest enemy team can go is 2.5

[fleet peak]

Moran S2 taunts

[keen vapor]

MORAN NO AMMO?

[fleet peak]

That's my best guess, because she keeps getting stunned instead of Noah

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis won't work, early nuke neither

Hmmmm tried Blanc Mihara Rumani Biscuit Cinderella yet?

[fleet peak]

I think I got it. Tried Scarlet/Trina again, but swapped cubes so that Helm + Scarlet + Trina had the highest ATK. Siren hit Noah 3/3 times.

Fingers crossed this holds - Still won't stop them from focusing me down with all 5 attacks, but at least I can return the favor 🫠

[keen vapor]

narohodo

[tropic summit]

double rotation should get rid of it

noah biscuit jackal helmt rh

it's a team that wants you to waste ur kit early on and then outstall you

so what you want in those cases is a team that can stall longer or can abuse slower nukes, e.g 4RL cindy would also work

double cycle against that team will also counter their kit, once moran and noah burst is off, they'll just auto while you're on RH B1 B2 and B3

(2nd burst cycle)

[fleet peak]

Good observations. If they keep the same defense team, I'll give it a shot too.

[keen vapor]

RH full burst

Need to improve myself with those shenanigans

[tropic summit]

that def team is actually one of the few resistant to the no brainers

although it might still struggle against vestiTU properly invested

as it's not stacking full DR

(unlike nero moran)

[late tiger]

Any 2rl rosanna or scarlet + jackal team that burst faster

[keen vapor]

But Vesti uses Blanc

[swift mango]

Still need 5-6RL to use 60 bullets

[swift mango]

Doesn't look like 2rl. Should be able to just Rossana HelmT before Moran even burst.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Should be able to Siren Noah too because their team isn't 2rl. Unless their Helm had 25% CS somehow.

They also don't have the dmg to sustain after the stall. Any stall team that could do proper 2 burst would beat them

[tropic summit]

@swift mango you skipping this collab then afterall or you gonna go ham and yolo no regrets 3rd anniversary units?

[swift mango]

No reason to not get 2 Collab units at least one each. I would rather skip anni.

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna tell you a secret...|| rapunzel is hiding in that anniversary rolls||

[swift mango]

Nah my Rapu hides in your Collab banner pull more like.

[icy pike]

what team can i make for pvp out of what i have right now

[tropic summit]

sp arena or rookie

[icy pike]

rookie

[swift mango]

Rosy is bricking himself on Vesti just to make me feel better about me bricking myself on Elegg.

[glad meteor]

We all bricked

[swift mango]

Vesti+Drake+Noah+RH+Jackal

Whoever linked between Vesti and Drake is put to p1. If both linked Vesti. P1.

[tropic summit]

either

(1)
vestiTU noah drakeT RH jackal (assumes vestiTU is linked, you can check that in shooting range and see if she gets "jumping jackal" buff),
pro: high CP
cons: a tad slower than other version, has SG feed

(2)
vestiTU noah trina rh jackal
pro: faster speed, can be promoted to 2RL with little enemy feed, does not feed
cons: lower CP, lower early pressure (no SG)

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

we all f2p*

nothing a 💳 wouldn't fix in a few months

[glad meteor]

Bricked up

[swift mango]

But you aren't bricked.

[glad meteor]

I haven’t spent on nikke in a while

[swift mango]

Not him

[tropic summit]

i'm f2p, that's worse than bricked

[swift mango]

Nah so long as ur not bricked.

[tropic summit]

well not my fault you like crow

it's karma at that point

[keen vapor]

Check and me are F2P but he gaps me by 40 levels

[swift mango]

But Crow blessed you with Ada.

[swift mango]

You are level bricked as different kind of bricked to us here.

[icy pike]

yeah vesti gets the jackal buff

if thats the one im looking for

[tropic summit]

all gud can run her p1

[icy pike]

oki

[wooden hedge]

not sure if prydwen is accurate but who are the best pvp nikkes?; main dps

[hollow lagoon]

Prob jackal

[keen vapor]

XP also learned how to defeat my defense

[tropic summit]

would be more surprising if they didn't

vestiTU addition alone is another brainless easy team to run

[tropic summit]

DPS?

vestiTU indom
scarlet indom
SBS indom
RRH indom
s.anis indom/indomless
emilia indom/indomless
RH indom/indomless

[keen vapor]

THEY DIDN'T FOR DAYS

[keen vapor]

The ones that are present on pinned teams

[wooden hedge]

question whats indom?

[keen vapor]

Indomitability buff or the buff that makes a Nikke immortal

Given by Blanc to lowest HP ally popularly

[tropic summit]

here's two example, one via standard blanc one via linked units (jackal)

the indom buff is given by blanc on the lowest hp on cast of B2

[noble python]

I need help team building for PvP I have an idea on what units are good but idk what’s good on a team together and how much I should raise said PvP units skills and etc.

[tropic summit]

post your box and we can make you the teams

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

@gritty ridge You should work on your pvp investment sheet regardless would make it easier for you to become MA

[tropic summit]

4 at a time

[keen vapor]

four max

[uncut crown]

I know she is not the best but how can Mihara Bonding Chain be used in arena?

[upper harbor]

ah whoops

[tropic summit]

she's actually part of one of the highest win ratio teams in CA

[keen vapor]

ANOTHER ONE

[keen vapor]

Not in SP, don't be misleading

[noble python]

Mb

[tropic summit]

although she'll do worse in SParena

[tropic summit]

i wanted to give the man some hope...

[uncut crown]

Really?! Could you show me what that team looks like?

[noble python]

Ok there we go 👍

[upper harbor]

Would it be possible to get some feedback on my def teams? Currently on this iteration. But maybe some of my other nikkes might add more value that I dont know yet. Been rolling vesti and maiden atm.

[tropic summit]

sure here you go

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor you work on this i build marin's teams

[wind kelp]

Yay! Manifest destiny and all that, got Morans helm 😄 Now just need enough "stuff" to OL it before League for that extra oomp.

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple bc you copied me XP had more practice than usual against my def
He attacked both of us, attack him or you'll learn a lesson 🫵

[uncut crown]

Thank you!

[noble python]

Ty Rail

[keen vapor]

Summer Rosanna way too high power🤨

[upper harbor]

Got her before blanc lol so had to pad her for tetra tower XD

[keen vapor]

Waos

[keen vapor]

Are Helm skills maxed?

[upper harbor]

yea

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

jackal siren scarlet trina noir
noise naga cindy helmt RH
noah biscuit liter sbs drakeT

quantum (even just lvl1) on drakeT to hit 3RL threshold

wishlist rumani, add centi and rapunzel to synchro and invest in them to 4/4/4 R15 2-4OL to be usable

raise CP on units in second screeshot marked to further improve your team

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[tropic summit]

you also welcome

[noble python]

Understood I won’t let you down and Ty again 07

[noble python]

My Quantum cube is level 4 lmao

[tropic summit]

that's even better, works just fine

[noble python]

I assume the 4/4/4 and 2-4OL also applies to Rumani?

And what do you recommend for Drake investment?

[tropic summit]

yeah most utilities will do fine on 4/4/4, ideally 4OL and SR5 is a good threshold to aim to, as they'll give you generally enough CP to allow being used without tanking your overall team score

[tropic summit]

you can refer to prydwen for each unit recommended skill and OLs, it's generally onpoint

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/drake-treasure

[noble python]

Aight

[noble python]

What’s SR5?

Oh wait don’t tell me it’s the doll right?

[upper harbor]

Yeah its the doll

[sharp sphinx]

Just hit my highest PVP rank ever.

[tropic summit]

yep it is

R15 into SR5 is the most economical friendly

although R15 can do fine for a while if you're short on mats

[limber patrol]

if it's to defend, do I place Cinderella on P2 or P4?

I can't remember exactly what I read where it does reverse the order

[tropic summit]

if enemy has vestiTU or emilia, cindy in p4, else in p2 or p3 you'll give extra burst gen

[limber patrol]

for example this as defensive team, is Noah on p1 or p5 for the enemy?

[tropic summit]

if that's enemy lineup, noah is in p1

[upper harbor]

Where do you read up on these position mechanics from?

[high stream]

Why does my TVesti have 26 ammo .. when the combined Max Ammo I have on her is 206,79% .. 8 increased by 206,79% should be 24,52 .. so even if the game rounds up, it should be 25, not 26. What is going on there??

No Bastion cube either.

[keen vapor]

Round per gear line

[tropic summit]

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[high stream]

Round it to what?

[tropic summit]

you can give it a 5 min read, it gives you a good overall of the mechanics

[limber patrol]

so I can just make a team like normal?

[keen vapor]

Round up to next entire number if above .50%

[tropic summit]

yes, from left to right is burst order and also unit order (p1, p2, p3... etc)

[high stream]

24,72

[keen vapor]

Follow the pinned example for CS

Did he?

[high stream]

Yeah, I figured it out now

And I'm incredibly mad about it. Holy brain damage.

Just do math as math is supposed to do

[keen vapor]

We can't give you .3 of a bullet sir

[high stream]

No, but if 8 x 206% is 24.52, u could just round up to 25

Or not round at all.

There are like .. at least 4 easier solutions to this

[jolly maple]

i still don't get why rounding up 24.5x something will give 26 ammo

[high stream]

Cause it's adding up in tiers.
It counts up the individual shots contributed per piece, adds them up and then rounds up

It's actually so incredibly brain broken

[keen vapor]

Don't worry, you won't use Vesti in raids again

[high stream]

It's an insult to every person ever contributing to the discovery and invention of math

I'm building her for PvP and high deficit

Not raids, lol.

But apparently with 26, she is now bricked for both of those

[keen vapor]

PVP won't last long to use those 26

And campaign you'll recharge between waves often enough to not matter

[high stream]

Does that mean for campaign i have to manual reload though?

[keen vapor]

Again, between waves you'll start a reload anyway, if anything you'll need to turn off auto aim and watch battle from her pov

[high stream]

hmmm ..

[keen vapor]

Not manual enough, there's also the "cover everyone" and everyone recharges

[high stream]

I suppose

But at the deficits I play at, all that seems far from ideal

I guess I'll have to drop a bunch of stones to try and unbrick that eventually

[keen vapor]

mission failed, he still wants to roll

[high stream]

At 35-40% deficits, spending even a second in cover can mean death

[keen vapor]

I mean, ideal lines are still 2 ammo, not more

[high stream]

Like .. I'm trying to use her right now

And it's not working better than RRH

[keen vapor]

Well, campaign at deficit still lowers your attack stat

[high stream]

Hm.

She should do better than RH though

[keen vapor]

RH has self attack buff

Vesti only a 20% one with her squad

She has the true damage advantage yes, but 40% deficit sounds like the limit for Vesti

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro flying through the levels 381
I'm trying to hit 401 soon almost got enough to do it, then I'll save for new chapters and such

[tropic summit]

dafuq you're only 50 levels behind us... @swift mango he's gonna outlevel us in a few months

these filthy whels

gonna watch some shoujo ai to sleep

[swift mango]

Idk, Hippo level up isn't that whaling fast. He doesn't spend much for core dust like he said.

[upper harbor]

@keen vapor Were you still cooking? no stress either way. I'll just be out for a while before I can get back and enact the changes. Appreciate the time regardless!

[shell hazel]

nah it's some gain from the daily resource pack and such

[tropic summit]

dayum that's concerning in a different way then

[shell hazel]

it's more than f2p but I don't sit there buying core dust packs

[tropic summit]

~~at this point he probably forgot, gold fish memory @keen vapor ~~

[keen vapor]

Is not that I forgot, I'm at the street

[upper harbor]

No stress, take your time.

[tropic summit]

you what? touching grass?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

b-but... that's for normies

[swift mango]

He is finding a wifi to update his game.

[umbral crown]

Nah, i just go with the meta. 1000 golds to C3

[keen vapor]

How did you

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/got-him-we-got-him-gif-9688653711459820082

[shell hazel]

it's more touching concrete

[tropic summit]

finding a wifi to steal*

[swift mango]

It's not that needed for core +3 her..
Just synch your Vesti+Emi and she would do more dmg.

[tropic summit]

that bug surely will go away

right...?

inb4 all new CA champions gonna have that team in their lineup

[swift mango]

To be fair, it's not as extreme as the one I showed. You need both units to crit at exactly that one synched shot for it to became 2m+ instant kill shot...

I just resynch my Emi+Vesti and that shot just deal double the other shot dmg.

I think criting with both of them at same time affect the fomular somehow.

My Vesti is now with 1 less Crit dmg and 1 less Ele also weaker I guess.

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit finally actual bayonara time, I didn't quite have enough for p3 until today

[gritty ridge]

I am, dont worry homeslice

Btw should I include manchor as a pvp unit?

Shes only really in 1 team

[keen vapor]

She's a PvE unit that can be used in PVP

[gritty ridge]

[swift mango]

444

[shell hazel]

best skill level

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

look she works OK at 4/4/4 and I was building mast

https://tenor.com/view/mast-nikke-gif-17185893502705482284

9/10/9 lol

[rich ledge]

Nah you can see the video scarlet not stunned

[haughty mortar]

OK my doods today I won't let you down! I upgraded Biscuit OL. Now she has 1 gear left! I also upgraded my synch to 324! I want to beat this dood. I will remember to record!

Last time I lost and ran outta attempts.

[rich ledge]

Scar team has Rosanna can't be blocked by Noah or bay

[keen vapor]

I did two versions but I'm yet not quite satisfied reduced feed on your Scarlet team, made either quick Noah or stall Noah and dangerous Indom

Version 2 requiring high CS on Vesti ig

[haughty mortar]

Dayumm my recording is 250MB!

[keen vapor]

Wait, I repeated biscuit

[haughty mortar]

I am using AMD recording software. Does OBS record smaller?

I crush his T1. T2 starts out good but loses. T3 gets crushed.

[keen vapor]

Guess it can use Centi on round 2 to fill biscuit spot but

@hoary maple ...... Pls, I don't want to stay on C8

[swift mango]

Good to hear. But the video only showed as 2 seconds black screen for me.

[swift mango]

You could stay in D15 instead.

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

It is indeed, im not going for lb0 with a meta unit

[swift mango]

Hope you still have pulls for Ada

[umbral crown]

I got some, just need to get lucky

[swift mango]

I personally can't imagine spending ticket to core+ standard unit. And miss out on limited one.

[umbral crown]

Im an expert of skippin collab unit

Like i did skip wasuka

[swift mango]

What if anniversary give out DPS Pilgrim that powercreep Vesti? Then you realized you could have MLB the pilgrim instead...

[umbral crown]

Just copium in wishlist , like i skipped grave and somehow she is mlb already

[swift mango]

Are you sure you wanna skip Ada? She hyper buff Vesti.

Oh well, I guess you could be fine. I don't know your Blabla now that I think about it

[rich ledge]

Oh no only you can't see it?

[keen vapor]

I can see it

[rich ledge]

I didn't expect double buff scarlet unable to kill 🙁

[swift mango]

Now that I looked again, you were 21% deficit at same synch range.

Okay it was actually 40 level below. Nvm

But yeah, they used tanky team and you were at deficit.

[keen vapor]

Just like me fr

[swift mango]

Maybe he was fighting a whale and you are just : 🧱

[keen vapor]

Ik Check is F2P

[rich ledge]

Yea top 4 are actually whale but the 4th is uninvested pvp whale this guy I'm fighting is top 2-3 nornally

[swift mango]

Idk without contest maybe you could be bricked too.

[rich ledge]

The number 4 I can beat him easy but he is attacking at 4am again so I'm trying to go to 2 before I go to bed so he can't attack me at 4am hopefully

You can see the bricked whale's team aren't pvp geared

[swift mango]

which event did you start?

[rich ledge]

Summer sakura

[umbral crown]

I might try to pull her

[rich ledge]

This whale is 50 levels higher, and CP padding using non arena meta but the other is 40 levels higher but pvp meta

[swift mango]

I guess you are unlucky enough to be in 4 whale bracket then.

[limber patrol]

tia naga lmao

[rich ledge]

The 4th whale came recently after the reshuffle originally there's only 3

[rich ledge]

The lowest level whale is just 30 levels above me but is hardcore pvp I saw him at pvp finals so I don't wanna engage with that haha

He always attacks before reset only as well

[swift mango]

Maybe he was just very efficient with malding campaign.

[wise horizon]

need help. @tropic summit

[rich ledge]

Definitely not has 31 costumes means he buys every mission pass at least

And there's a gacha costume in the profile haha

[swift mango]

Having costumes doesn't mean he spent for core dust. But yeah, some advantage from mission pass.

[rich ledge]

These are all the whales, if ranked by level it's 1,4,3,2

[swift mango]

Hey, I know the 2nd guy.

[rich ledge]

Yeaaa haha he is a whale right?

[swift mango]

Dolphin at best

[rich ledge]

Haha I guess to f2p everyone is whale 😂

Well he is the lowest level among them so yea not as much spending as the others

[swift mango]

Well, doesn't take much to have kinda whale level in this game. Just need to buy monthly pack.

[umbral crown]

Be the new whale we all wish to be

[vapid lake]

[umbral crown]

Purple

[swift mango]

You should start buying this if you refuse to make campaign team and mald campaign tbh... Or wish for them to change the CA qualifying range.

[umbral crown]

But i have never bought those yet

[swift mango]

Soon

[umbral crown]

New cmapaign team

[swift mango]

Maybe about time you upgrade Siren

[umbral crown]

I did max doll on her tho

[swift mango]

How about her skill?

[umbral crown]

4/4/1

[rich ledge]

I guess its not as fun to spend on the game you just win everyone else too easily? Haha

[umbral crown]

Kinda

[rich ledge]

If I wanted to whale I'll start a new acc and whale from the start and beat the shit out of all of them

[umbral crown]

[rich ledge]

I spend on other games and it just became spend money and collect the new thing haha so I'm trying to limit to f2p for this so it's more engaging

[swift mango]

Where are you in campaign now btw?

[gritty ridge]

Chat is this guy a whale? He has 125 nikke and 27 skins

[swift mango]

Hope you wouldn't be falling out in the end.

[rich ledge]

I have 153 nikkes and im f2p

[umbral crown]

26-15 1B

[gritty ridge]

Hes sync 261

[umbral crown]

The team above is pure auto

As it should be

[umbral crown]

Im kinda the lowest in campaign if comparing with whole bracket, most of them are over 29

[rich ledge]

There's a 102 core/hr breakpoint later it's important to get there ASAP

[swift mango]

I would max out Siren+Crown skill and OL Siren if I were you. Skill books are tons nowadays and 4 rock for Siren is cheap.

Replace Rapu with Siren in your auto team

And you could clear more stages

[umbral crown]

[rich ledge]

Oh maintenance is in 15 hrs right?

The person won't be able to hit me at 4am my time today then

I wonder if he is going to wake up and realize it's in maintenance mode

[covert lintel]

I gave up all the blue line just to get 15+cs
Now my cp is so much lower than before

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Bruh kinda feel like a dumbass for wasting 5 rocks today for nothing. Could have just save.

[rich ledge]

I used 6 on vesti and got nothing

No third line cs ammo attack or elemental

[swift mango]

Are you locking line 1+2?

[rich ledge]

Nope

No locks yet just initial rolling for 3rd

Sorry this 1

Chest and legs has 3rd line Im now rolling helm

[hoary maple]

Don't let me hold you back. I barely know what I'm doing

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Lock boot's CS and roll

[umbral crown]

Echo losint first try

[covert lintel]

Team up with him and beat up xp

[keen vapor]

Not first

[umbral crown]

Very first

Win xp doing stonks

[rich ledge]

Yea I will get to that as well not sure if you all do all the 3rd lines first or do piece by piece

[livid marsh]

@dim escarp you buy the skin bro?

[swift mango]

I'm done with preparing Vesti team next CA.... Bad lines still... But could be fixed with Adjustant is good enough.

[umbral crown]

To 17?

[swift mango]

Vesti, Emi, LapT each lack 2% CS.... And 17% isn't break point anymore it's 15%.

Or 18%, 17% is basically 15%

[tame cedar]

Hello! Do you guys have any defense team recommendations for SP Arena with my current set of Nikkes?

I'm currently running

Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Helm-Jackal
Noah-Biscuit-Summer Anis-Rapunzel-Cinderella
Rumani-Alice-Siren-Centi-SBS

[umbral crown]

Then go for 18

[swift mango]

Nah, I'm good with 11% minimum.
Have plan for Vesti 11-15% and Emi 21% though.

[umbral crown]

Imagine not having emi 21

[swift mango]

You only have 12

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

16

[swift mango]

Just get 4 more?

[umbral crown]

ies

[swift mango]

Your Vesti 17 right? Could you tell me the lines? Do you sum them using the formula I wrote in the pin?

The lines of Emi and Vesti

[umbral crown]

My vesti 17, she has 80 ele, 17 cs, crit damage and crit rate but 0 atk

[swift mango]

I mean the specific Charge speed line you have.

[umbral crown]

On vesti? 16.72 or so but thats 17

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

So 16.72 could be very well 15% or 18% defending on the rounding

[umbral crown]

Rounding in nikke work was 17

[swift mango]

And Emi?

16% in Nikke work too?

That's without cube right?

[umbral crown]

Have to check but yes, emi without cube

[swift mango]

I'm trying to calculate if you could synch their attack

[umbral crown]

Emi is alwaysbon quatum or tempura

[swift mango]

If Emi 16% and Vesti 17% both without Adjustant you would synch their attack at the 4th shot of Vesti and 3rd shot of Emi.

That 4th shot could probably be blocked by enemy 2rl Noah though.

You could bring them to rookie to check it out.

[swift mango]

I would say your Vesti isn't very strong even with core+3 because zero ATK%.

But oh well, core+3 could be considered extra 14% ATK comparing to lb0. and more when buffed by someone like Liter, Miranda.

[swift mango]

To synch their 4th attack both Vesti and Emi should be P3-4-5.

If Vesti p1-2, consider giving her Adjustant.

[raven plover]

0 atk besti

noah blanc slayer with 80% ele?

[covert lintel]

Siren too

[noble python]

Does the team I use in Rookie Arena matter at all?

[gritty ridge]

If you care about the small gain in arena token

Otherwise rookie is just for testing teams

[raven plover]

not using siren on def

[raven plover]

I havent change my def since jackal banner

[swift mango]

I already one shot Noah with Emi seasonal buff. Doesn't need 80 Ele.

Actually I rolled off 2 Ele for Vesti

[upper harbor]

Thanks Echo, just got back to inplement these. I will give these both a try see which one works the best. Any future investment recommendations? Currently rolling Vesti, Cindy and Madien. But can aim for some CS breakpoints on the other units. Appreciate your time on this!

[swift mango]

It's rookie, just auto smh

But I called you uncooperative rookie partner. Don't even leave viable team for other to test.

[swift mango]

Use video panda to make it 1.2mb

[swift mango]

Well, you are gonna be stuck on hard 32-34 to 541-561 with your investment I guess. So maybe it doesn't really matter now.

[swift mango]

Purple fish brotha, late congrats 🎉 sorry.

[keen vapor]

Really only Vesti with high CS can get to be vital for second version

[upper harbor]

Will do boss. Thanks again

[covert lintel]

Let me copy

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Centi+Liter+Anis+Jackal.

[raven plover]

its the old "god" scar team

noise, scar, rap, jack, noah

people beat it everyday

[covert lintel]

Nepnep lost to this kind of team?

[covert lintel]

they'll bully me if i put something like this

[raven plover]

of course not its rookie

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Yeah, I would rather bully your comp.

[raven plover]

[vapid lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946720097031045161/1297132224541364246/kisama.mp4?ex=68d313c5&is=68d1c245&hm=a6c8581deba979a395b53b0f443729e5bdd30be998fefada6dba27309455ceb2&

[keen vapor]

Give me a Ki
Give me a Sa
Give me a MA

What is it?

[valid inlet]

I just ran a few PoliT position tests, I think both p1 & p5 have their pros and cons, and p3 the worst
@umbral belfry @coarse lake
Vs Indom Vesti Emi

Vs Scar Jack

[spiral onyx]

2 more slots just in case I need it

[covert lintel]

Tempering & quantum lv15 are a must have

[swift mango]

I still don't know what to upgrade after tempering 11.

[swift mango]

What about Resilence 15?

[covert lintel]

Making a detour to pve now?

[swift mango]

It's CP for campaign.

[covert lintel]

Campaign didn't matter
I used quantum all the time and have reached the latest hard campaign

[swift mango]

Maybe if you used Resilence you would have cleared it

It matters for guys who started late and not a whale like me ofc.

But maybe 15 tempering is fine too in a nutshell. Just 3 months delay before I come back for Resilience.

[spiral onyx]

I'll actually be pushing Adjutant next instead of Quantum 15

More slots, more flexibility

You have 25 units and 12 Tempering

[covert lintel]

Not assist cube?

[spiral onyx]

Cindy wants HP so that's 13 cubes accounted for

The remaining 12 are all either Quantum or Adjutant

So having 10 of each should give maximal flexibility

[covert lintel]

Last season i used assist cube on rapun, and she become a mini moran

[spiral onyx]

Max HP is generally better than low HP recover given the current AoE nuke meta

[spiral onyx]

Rapunzel's heals also scale off her max HP

But I believe healing cube is slightly better math wise unless you're tanking with Rapunzel

[hybrid fox]

I'm afraid that 2nd team will lose

[unique wagon]

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

? I was talking about running Ada in pvp not sure what you mean lol

[hybrid fox]

Oh

[shell hazel]

I do this all the time. how would ros stop you?

[royal ridge]

Is Winter Ann a must have for PvP nowadays? Or are there better replacements for SP arena?

[shell hazel]

you won't need her for pvp in SPA

she's more for CA teams, and there are alternatives for that

[royal ridge]

I'm wondering whether to spend 200 tickets on her lol.

[royal ridge]

Damn lmao. Thanks! 🫡

[shell hazel]

not worth if you're not in CA and not really worth mileage tbh

we got anni coming in a month save your mileage for the 1% pilgrim meta (and other pilgrim re-runs)

[royal ridge]

Alrighty. That's peak. 🔥

[royal ridge]

I think I'm ready for 3rd anni. 💀

Also, nice framing lmfao.

[shell hazel]

likely 2 new pilgrims and then re-runs for RH/Doro/Mod

[royal ridge]

Ayo really?

[shell hazel]

yeah

[royal ridge]

They're gonna start rerunning pilgrims now?

[royal ridge]

Wtf bro, where were the reruns a year ago. 😭

[shell hazel]

no gems no tickets but good mileage 😄

[royal ridge]

I was missing Red Hood for 1.5 years now, only got her this half anni. 😭

[royal ridge]

I see lol.

[shell hazel]

I mean yours haha

[royal ridge]

Well, it'll be good for me, to get more dupes.

[shell hazel]

I have gems/tickets but mileage not as good

[royal ridge]

I've legit never had to spend tickets until Grave came along. 💀

[shell hazel]

I mlb the meta pilgrims with mileage

[royal ridge]

And then Summer Doro too.

[royal ridge]

True, I should've done that.

[shell hazel]

rapi and siren and sdoro I used mileage to get mlb

[royal ridge]

I managed to get Mermaid Core 4 with like 140 pulls. 💀

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[royal ridge]

She legits does more damage than most of my DPS lmfao.

I'm gonna go all out for this anni, if it's busted OP like Rapi RH. 🙏

[shell hazel]

it probably is but it's hard for them to power creep too much I think

[royal ridge]

Considering how they botched Absolute... Let's hope not. 💀

[shell hazel]

should be strong though

I'll dupe RH a bit if I can as well stuck on LB-0 for a year

[royal ridge]

Haha, I wish you the highest luck for that. 🍀

[shell hazel]

would just mileage it I have enough left over

[royal ridge]

Meanwhile, I save too much. 💀

[shell hazel]

if they repeat the rebate thing I'll chuck 100 pulls at the new pilgrim banner but my luck here is mid usually

get 10 back and some doll mats, and the mileage

[royal ridge]

The Little Mermaid rebate rewards were good.

[shell hazel]

it was same for the mihara one as well I think

it gets less good after 100 though

[royal ridge]

The absolute one seemed kinda bad tho.

1% too.

[shell hazel]

there wasn't one for the absolute squad was there?

[royal ridge]

Oh, I might be misremembering then.

[shell hazel]

i'm hoping they repeat them for all the 1% banners anyway, at least it kind of makes it worth trying

but I won't go too far with them as they're bad odds

[royal ridge]

Haha, they might as well make them 2%, since they're rerunning them. 🙏

9 bill on this SR got me top 5%.

And that was only 'cause I was rushing at the last moment. 💀

[shell hazel]

no they won't be 2% will be 1%'s

[royal ridge]

I guess Mother Whale really was quite the killer lol.

[royal ridge]

That's a shame.

[shell hazel]

I got 10.5 so was 3.33%

but I'm pvp focus for builds mostly and campaign so a lot of my raid units suffer

[royal ridge]

Global server's so OP bro. 😭

SEA suffers the greatest since it's dead so low population, plus top 3% are all whales. 💀

[shell hazel]

I wound up using rapunzel in one of my teams 😄

[royal ridge]

Yeah, at least they removed the super raptures MW spawns lol.

[shell hazel]

I'll build up my core raid units sometime soon

[royal ridge]

Haha, I'll def do it too... Someday...

[quick pivot]

Remind me why SAnis stops at Burst Level 9 for PvP as opposed to 10

[hollow lagoon]

9is where she lowers her ammo to 1 during burst

[lunar pawn]

Can anyone suggest some high cp teams to win here?

Roster by cp, for reference

[shell hazel]

probably just give that up they have a big cp gap on you

opponent cp * 0.846 = your minimum

you can work that out per team

you can be a little bit under the minimum if you have say a biscuit protecting a defender but emphasis on a little bit

[rich ledge]

2RL vs 2RL Rosanna being b1 would burst first before b2 Noah shield?

[shell hazel]

sure but she won't kill noah, she has certain target rules

you'll need 2RL noah or bay comp but if you run the right units you can def counter scar effectively even if it's ros

biscuit + noah or biscuit + bay

I burn helm for my version but there are alt ones you can run, ros may kill helm but if you have a backup b3 like xmaiden then ros won't stop you

[swift mango]

The aren't whale, mostly just day one players with lots of Ele.

[royal ridge]

Haha, I've gotta get ele too it seems.

[swift mango]

Because it's cheaper than 10. And still same effect.

[covert lintel]

I'm day one player but not 3%

[swift mango]

You don't have the ele.

[covert lintel]

Our new leader is not even day one too

Similar sync to yours

[swift mango]

He and I are like 4 month apart.

I said "mostly just day one player" and "with lots of Ele"

Mostly means not everyone.

Lots of Ele is self explanatory.

Days one players has 2 advantage, research level and rocks. Research level is unmoving, but how you used your rock and your luck with rocks are your problem only.

There is also mobile and PC diff, the same teams could do 1b+ more on PC comparing to mobile. Ammo count option already fixed mobile a bit but they would still do worse whether you like it or not.

[umbral crown]

Atk will come eventually

[covert lintel]

I have a luck issue with stat

[tropic summit]

this sounds tedious to achieve and considering it might get fixed down the line hardly worth it i guess

[tropic summit]

T1 is too slow, you need to be 2RL

you can fix it with a better B3 in terms of burst gen than cindy, such as vestiTU (needs CS% on vesti) or SBS (can be run as is)

keep in mind it needs 3 utilities on quantum lvl 3 minimun

[shell hazel]

should I boost bayonara above 4/4/4 at some point?

[tropic summit]

arguably you want maybe burst skill lvl 10 due to maximing DR

s1 and s2 could be kept 7 or 4

8.87%DR + doll DR can be useful, especially if combined with moran or noise

[swift mango]

Skill 1 and 3 could be maxed, they are useful. Skill 2 not so much.

[tropic summit]

comes down to how many skill books you can afford using on a unit that may not be core in your pvp, but situational

e.g. if you plan to have a stable pvp team for SParena that always involves bay it may be worth it
if you only using bay situationally as counter, you don't need to invest fully

[swift mango]

My bay 10710 and I use her in SPA.

All my SpA units are CP pad to skill level 7 at least now.

[tropic summit]

oh? what's your 3 teams CP for reference?

[shell hazel]

yeah I could 7/7/7 at least I think

[swift mango]

3120k+ but if I switched everyone to fill resilience and Tempering could be 3170+k

[shell hazel]

not immediately but soon, I'm just going to complete the 10/10/10 mast

[sterile latch]

Can anyone provide me a good Rookie and SP arena team? I've been trying to rank in PvP lately (I am ready to invest HEAVILY on any character that needs upgrades). Also here's my NIKKEs

[quartz rover]

I may have lost gems and a frame for thinking challenge raid was a day longer

But I get 3k still

[shell hazel]

think there is maintenance in a couple of hours remember to get your snipes in

[quartz rover]

I don't snipe

I shoot in broad daylight

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

no point me shooting in broad daylight my whale can always win so I'll snipe em

[quartz rover]

Looks like Claire redfield is a Sr sora

And Jill valentine is a re collab version of sanis

Just to be clear I don't need miracle fairy Anne right

[shell hazel]

yeah only good for CA and you have options even with that in mind

[quartz rover]

My CA is newer players

[shell hazel]

b2 for sg comp could be any of PoliT, Viper, Manchor, Naga, even Bay

[quartz rover]

I no longer see hime or anyone else 😦

[shell hazel]

xanne fits in here well though, but if you lack resources you can just build or use a diff b2 to her

I got a copy and built her to basic level 😄

[quartz rover]

I recently treasured my bay

Btw why shotgun comp? Isn't xanne a rl

[shell hazel]

these were my CA teams last CA

check out my low CP xanne 😄