pvp-arena

[swift mango]

I said what I said.

[radiant storm]

Not gonna touch that, gonna do it after Sync 641 HAHAHAHA

[coarse lake]

imagine doing tower before auto tower, can't be me

[swift mango]

The only thing you had over me is play time. Nothing to be proud of.

[swift mango]

I can't auto Whale.

[spare nimbus]

Will this team 3/3?

[radiant storm]

Hard to do, you'll run out of patience doing that stage. Imagine multiple Volleyball destroying your Nikke from the start

[quick lake]

Possible. Team 2 could lose if indom doesnt apply in time

[keen vapor]

So, maiden P3 better?

[quick lake]

Idk tbh. Im not that familiar with mihara sac teams. I just run P1 Cindy/Rei with Mihara sac usually

[swift mango]

I think team 2 would still lose even if indom applied.

[swift mango]

Actually rather than 3/3 you might lose 1/3

[spare nimbus]

Went pretty well

Swapped mihara for naga tho and cindy/xmaiden

[quick lake]

U lucky u won T1 due to cs% okay opponent was slow nvm

[swift mango]

Team 1 you won thanks to their speed wasn't 2.5rl

Team 2 you won because Rumani face tanked Vesti burst.

Both could lose if it they have enough investment.

[spare nimbus]

I mean my jackal centi and trina all have 15% cs so im winning that 100%

[covert lintel]

But we can't auto if we have red cp

[swift mango]

Okay, team 2 it was unbuffed Vesti so whatever investment they had it won't be enough.

[raven plover]

ser if you dont do tower for a long time before auto progress qol implemented, youre super blue surely

[keen vapor]

You can

[swift mango]

Well, not if they they had 18-21% on Rumani and Centi I guess.

[quick lake]

That’s the dream. Auto tower

[swift mango]

I'm autoing my tower.

[covert lintel]

That just tower before 700

[swift mango]

Just don't do above 700

[covert lintel]

That's one of credit source

I do this every time I'm in need of credit to level up

[swift mango]

Guess your champ bet 100% correct then.

[covert lintel]

Nah, i get betrayed by fahren team in the last season

[swift mango]

I voted for the other guy in Section channel because I think they had more chance.

[covert lintel]

Yeah, i just tried a full blind vote without seeing a full team each match

So i didn't know the match between rosanna def vs scar

[swift mango]

My own obviously not-bias vote for Besti failed epicly though.

[swift mango]

The guy would have match 1-2 normally. The whale had match 5. I wasn't sure about 3-4 but 2 vs 1 enough reason.

Whale could just be whale and face tanking more than his team comp ofc...

[iron jungle]

Hi guys, could I please get some help on some PVP teams with the units I have?

As you can see, I'm a big fan of soldier FA & that is why she makes a guest appearance in the last picture...

[swift mango]

This is all SSR nikke you have? And synch 200 with Eve?

[spare nimbus]

His cindy was also feeding me

Iirc p2 cindy feeds right?

[swift mango]

Doesn't really matter ofc

[iron jungle]

I did leave out a few, but they were very unimportant.

Sakura, Brid, A2, Mary & Aquamarine Helm.

[raven plover]

I auto till 725

[swift mango]

Start with wishlist Rumani, Centi, Trina, Jackal, Noah, Helm, Rapu, Biscuit.

[iron jungle]

They've been on the wish list since I started playing... 😑

Is there anything I can do right now instead of waiting to pull these units?

[covert lintel]

Fahren obviously won 3 and 5
In 3, there's no soda that could facetank vesti preburst

[leaden canyon]

this win?

[covert lintel]

So in my eyes 2vs2, the key to win is in 4

emi stole the burst

Usually she died

[swift mango]

SPA.

SBS+Blanc+Liter+Anis+BestiT

Doro+B.Soda+Naga+Drake+Rossanna(487 at least)

Auto team.

Rookie:

VestiT+Blanc+Mana+Rosa+Anis

[swift mango]

Soda could just burst before Vesti even fire 1 shot though.

[iron jungle]

Can I ask why you didn't use Biscuit & Moran Even though "cheesy" A tier's?

[swift mango]

You didn't list Biscuit and Moran in your pics.

[spare nimbus]

Why is ur emi linked instead of scarlet

[covert lintel]

Oh right i forgot

She have 40% atk

[spare nimbus]

[iron jungle]

Sorry, I forgot you could only add four pictures & didn't add that one...

[swift mango]

Nah bro you literally trolling here and just added Biscuit after the fact. @keen vapor I pass this case to you. Time to work.

[iron jungle]

[leaden canyon]

this good or nah

[swift mango]

I would say nah. But you could try

[leaden canyon]

I'll try something else then

[iron jungle]

Hey, guys sorry about earlier. Here's a better picture of all the units I have.

I'd appreciate any team building help as I'm struggling to obtain the top tier's for PvP.

[swift mango]

Can probably win. Though. I'm not sure.

[swift mango]

Anyway, I would go

Noah+Crown+Biscuit+Emi+RH

Instead of HelmT.

But it should be fine I guess

[leaden canyon]

Guess I can try this

[slender radish]

Anyone know a good resource for building champion arena teams? I have pretty much all nikkes

[leaden canyon]

can check the pins in here

lots of resources there

[thin abyss]

That's really a tough situation, you don't have any of the key units
You could try these
-S Doro, Drake, Rosana, Guilty/Naga and soda
-Moran, Biscuit, S Anis Vesti TU and Anis SR
-Mihara, Noise, Mana, Marciana/Poli, S Sakura

I hope you put Helm on your wishlist, T Helm is a game changer

[iron jungle]

Cool, thank you so much I appreciate the help! 😭

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit Ada looks good dosnt she

[rich ledge]

Is this ok?

Swapped positions for last team

[wild hemlock]

Hope they fix the emilia/vesti bug. Enemy in SP arena has the bug while I don't

[swift mango]

Look better to me. Tell me the result if you sent.

[tropic summit]

looks ok, prefer her 3D model although

[swift mango]

Oh wait, team 3 needs 159 to not be CP gapped... Maybe fine maybe not. Oh well. Not much I guess.

[swift mango]

Finally, Crow looks ok to Rail.

[quick lake]

Truly looks like Crow. A hot Crow

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

this kind of hairstyle and look is fine

[swift mango]

@shell hazel There you go half a month.

[rich ledge]

Can someone help me check my teams?

[quick lake]

Yes should work

[tropic summit]

T1 probably fine
T2 needs ammo requirement on scarlet to avoid getting stunned if siren survives to 2RL, else it's fine
T3 too slow, although assuming you stun scarlet without your siren dying to s2 within 2RL you'll force an alice B3, which may not wipe your team before you enter noah's shield

i'd rather just commit to T2 and T3 or T1 and T3 instead of spreading like you're atm

[shell hazel]

it's because I'm better than blood

[tropic summit]

T2 scar trina rh centi jackal (assumes ammo requirement on scarlet)
T3 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

[shell hazel]

what is the next colour?

[tropic summit]

next color is EoS

[shell hazel]

[rich ledge]

Yes my scarlet is fine for ammo req ok I guess the vesti is the 1 to throw away

I wasn't sure which one to bet on

[tropic summit]

if you've rosanna run SG team or any SG team at all

against T1

[rich ledge]

Ok lemme see

[tropic summit]

draket bsoda naga flex b1 noir
or
draket bsoda naga ros noir
or
draket bsoda viper(phase2) rapunzel noir

[swift mango]

Idk why you put unlinked Rumani p5 though, but at least put Blanc in the middle to be safe. Since you aren't getting 1589k.

You should be able to easily beat team 3 with anything Jackal so long as you pad it to 1589k+ and have 2 linked unit p1-5

[tropic summit]

looks good, go get em

[hollow lagoon]

I mean the kit

[tropic summit]

oh i never roll on the first days, i'll just wait for someone smart, unlike me, to test her out and have numbers

[swift mango]

I think she would be used in Noise+Noah team if she doesn't have the burst gen.

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

round 1 and 2 won, round 3 lost. Round 1 almost lost, was just emilia and hood alive against moran and moah, emilia died and hood almost died. round 2 rosanna ended up getting the blanc buff and killed everybody besides noir who killed rosanna.

[rich ledge]

I was using this defense previously but it was just broken before this attack

I'm updating to this is it ok?

Made vesti Abit slower and Cindy faster

[quick lake]

Looks better

non-2RL teams are slow these days

[shell hazel]

hopefully no one kills your unprotected noise p1 😛

[swift mango]

Yeah about right, team 3 would have higher chance to win if you fixed the CP and the link. Or at least used the old scarlet team.

[blissful stone]

my pvp teams are... a bit outdated. what's more meta right now?

[rich ledge]

True noise is a bit risky hmm but if I put Noah in front it's also risky

[tropic summit]

you can check pins
#pvp-arena message

I suggest

2RL scar-siren
2RL indom vestiTU
2.5RL nuke resistant

[leaden canyon]

Blanc burst went off but like a second before it fully went off vesti and helm died

jackal ended up getting the indom

Still cant deal with this

Need so many rocks to up cp

been super unlocky on rock drops

[swift mango]

Probably because unlinked Rumani got killed off early and your team went down to 3rl in speed.

[blissful stone]

i ahve copied the list , now i'll need to understand what is 2.5 RL. who is half a RL?

[shell hazel]

RL refers to burst speed

[swift mango]

But with linked p1-5 you don't need a natural 2rl team. Just remove Rumani for a CP pad and burst with Helm instead.

[blissful stone]

i'll need to put a few ones in the sync but it's not a big deal

[real abyss]

it took me a while to understand that smaller rl number better

[shell hazel]

you'll also need CP on them

no good adding pvp units with low CP you'll just get trashed by pve units

[blissful stone]

yes , because sometimes i encounter people with almost twice my CP

[swift mango]

You should be able to pad to 1589k easily if you removed Rumani. And replace with a high CP B3.

[shell hazel]

this is a 2.5RL stall comp

where the line is is burst ready speed

note it's inbetween 2RL and 3RL markers

then 1/2/3 burst markers as these are delayed

the deck builder shows you this more readily

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

you just need to know that 2RL is very fast and higher values are slower, consider the RL value a measure of speed which is linear

2RL is twice as quick to burst as 4RL

[swift mango]

How was the result of these 2 team? Both lost? Or 1 win?

[leaden canyon]

have yet to attempt them tbh

[swift mango]

[leaden canyon]

At this point I'm just throwing stuff at the wall

[leaden canyon]

also I have to find a third high cp b3 that doesn't have more attack than vesti

[blissful stone]

I only have 1 of each, it's annoying as all these teams overlap

well , not 1 of each, ome i don't have like Rumani or the new Vesti

[quick lake]

2/2.5/3RL are measure’s of time. 1 RL is ~1.23s. So a 3RL team means that u enter Full Burst (burst bar being full) in 1.23s x 3 ≈ 3.7s.

Generally in pvp, we want to burst first and thus nuke first, so opponent dies ASAP

[shell hazel]

yeah RL measure here doesn't stand for RL unit, it took me a while to work that out 😄

[quick lake]

So for pvp, we generally try to build fast teams (with units like Centi/Noah/Trina etc), with a strong nuker

Like Scarlet-Trina, Noise Cindy, which are the “key” units in the overall team

[leaden canyon]

2RL and it looks like vesti and helm will be linked

vesti has like a little more attack from overloads

[swift mango]

You don't need to burst or indom with Vesti ofc... Helm burst is fine too... Scar also a okay... Ever doro indom is Gucci.

[leaden canyon]

that is true

[swift mango]

Free dispeller for everyone in guess.

[jolly maple]

new meta for burst regen?

[crystal flicker]

Still not touching unless she's Clip

He needs to stop cooking cp apd

[celest girder]

any suggestions for a good rookie arena defense? been using noise-jackal-rapunzel-scarlet-noah team for like 2 years
been getting clapped recently

[placid bloom]

2s reload time is never clip, Noah is exception because her debuff on hit gives burst gen for some reason

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi

jackal siren scarlet trina helmt

noise jackal cinderella helmt noah

try rotating between the above, stick with w/e works

[glad meteor]

Free sora

[swift mango]

At least they still trying. My bracket lower guys already gave up because they needed to keep their C4 too.

Hitting me just to lose gem to take back the rank from lower guys is not Gucci.

[swift mango]

Yeah she is.

[tropic summit]

christ SU is getting so creative with those kits that it's essentially the same as another nikke now

[swift mango]

"people complaining that Sora has SR kits sir "

"Okay let's give her kit to the next SR nikke! "

[tropic summit]

anything goes it seems

[swift mango]

If only they be generous and make her defender.

[swift mango]

I wished.

[swift mango]

Vesti+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal

Just for the new.

[celest girder]

is that the old vesti or the new? i dont have the new vesti.

[swift mango]

New ofc. New is good.

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

Glad I skipped sora

Now I get free sora

[keen vapor]

Claire? With SR stats?

[umbral crown]

What matters is dispell

Some people use anis for burst gen only

[tulip quest]

Sora has 20% more heal but this 1 has -debuff

Would be interesting if she was used in C.A

[covert lintel]

So many nikke have dispel but does anyone use it in pvp? Big no

[tulip quest]

Maybe future shotgun team gets replaced by RL Meta

[glad meteor]

It’s a on burst dispel so only good against siren

[coarse lake]

Sora has the same

I'd argue she's slightly better than sora due to not weak to vesti, unless you needed the extra heal

[tulip quest]

oh it was potency granted 20.8% my bad

[tulip quest]

Yea I read Sora's kit she also has -debuff

asdasdasdasdasd

[coarse lake]

Best free unit

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-gonzo-lynn-redgrave-rack-gif-27482735

PPL who pulled Sora

[coarse lake]

Although rei could compete

[tropic summit]

dev: "ok would be nice giving her something that fits with RE2 mechanics"
collab manager: "oh oke how 'bout herbs?"
dev: "wha- eh maybe something coo-"
collab manager: "nah let's make her a healer"
dev: "ok... just copy sora"
collab manager: "cool"

[tulip quest]

Also she is better in PVP Because of 10% shield

[coarse lake]

I don't think shield matters

Afaik it only blocks direct dmg

Less heals, better element

[umbral crown]

Keripo uses sora but people aee using standard teams

[tulip quest]

Keripo just likes experimenting stuff

Dude's a mad Scientist he likes cooking stuff, tho I do understand cause it's fun

[gritty ridge]

Ive tried cooking sora, I wish she had a stored dispell

It would make her do something at 2rl

[elfin mesa]

someone help me make an attacker team

@gritty ridgealso i pushed up a little bit more thanks to you giving me a decent defense team template

i think i'll stagnate on #12 for a while, since the competition is only tougher from here look at them and its easy to tell they've spent a good amount of money

[gritty ridge]

Hey congrats man, youre close to breaking into the top 10

[gritty ridge]

Who are you attacking?

Need to see what to counter

[elfin mesa]

well not really who I'm gonna attack but like, what kind of counterplay should i have when i see a certain team

just for future reference, right now I'm just gonna try and not lose d1

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, so some basic ones are: if you see noah, blanc is usually the answer. If you see blanc, a little slower blanc usually works. If you see bay, just dont use scar or cindy as your b3. If you see jackal, noah with helm b3 will usually counter

Knowing your and your opponents speed are most important tho

There are some exceptions as there are to every rule, but.for the most part these should work

[elfin mesa]

i saw someone say rosanna is very good on pvp because her b1 burst can one shot on high investment

[gritty ridge]

Rosanna is indeed very good, but shes invest heavy like you said

[elfin mesa]

i think i'll start to invest in noise(mlb) once im done with bay and jackal

[gray lintel]

Can some one suggest a good attack and defence team for normal PVP, I don't have many units started 3 to 4 months back

[gray lintel]

This is my current team

[limber rampart]

oh they want me to uninstall this game :))) its about 1,5 years I have no noah to continue in pvp and this is the 4th times i had lost in this fckin mold

[keen vapor]

Built Bay treasure yet?

[limber rampart]

no bay too

[keen vapor]

Swap Crown for Blanc and Rapi for Vesti, skill her up a little

[keen vapor]

[limber rampart]

+1 reason to quit this fckin game

[gritty ridge]

Blanc?

[keen vapor]

That's one team

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[fathom rock]

Ada can be used as vestiTU offburst buffer Ono...

[glad meteor]

I guess being scarletless isnt that bad after all

[fathom rock]

[gritty ridge]

Yeah sacrelet big hat lady isnt that important

[charred wedge]

That dude who kept attacking me every time aftter i slept landed himself in 30th place from 5th how tf

I definitely stayed within top 10th now

[shell hazel]

30th can attack up to 10th I think

so if they swap with 10th and 30th jump them, they're now 30th lol

[north brook]

if claire is clip rl wouldnt she just be better sora

actually nvm she has standard reload time

[gritty ridge]

Hippo what if theres secretly a leviathan lrking in the lower ranks of my bracket

[keen vapor]

I have one as well

He's resting there, menacingly

[gritty ridge]

Im scared to wake up one day and be like 22nd from 3rd

[keen vapor]

Retro's constant nightmare:

[gritty ridge]

Oh yeah, retro is in a whale bracket isnt he

[keen vapor]

Don't know the details

[gritty ridge]

Im pretty safe in 3rd i hope

I get left alone for the most part

So its an easy 3k gems

[north brook]

tbh high in top 10 u can only be hit 3 spots below, as long as u hold off ppl 6 spots below u easily u can maintain spot

[gritty ridge]

Theres only 2 people in the top 10 who ever hit me

[umbral crown]

Echo and i

[gritty ridge]

Yonexxi im gonna leviathan to sync 800 and join your bracket

[keen vapor]

And I got hit by Yonexxi and Rail

[umbral crown]

I would

[rain thicket]

is there any way for Blanc to not give indomitable to anyone ?

when it says it "Affects 1 ally unit(s) with the lowest HP (except caster)" i understand that the lowest HP, Blanc herself excluded.
but is it instead that she is included and if she the lower HP no one gets it ?

[glad meteor]

If the unit dies just as she bursts

[rain thicket]

aaaaah, i see that must have been what happened

[glad meteor]

The dead nikke will have the max hp buff bar but dead

[spare nimbus]

Can this 3/3?

[shell hazel]

you just need to become the leviathan

my whale woke up and decided to gem once to take spa 1 for some reason, even though they can't even get top 1 this season anymore 😄

[gritty ridge]

Can vesti kill cindy pre b3?

Im having trouble with vest murdering my p1-3 rn

[spare nimbus]

This was my previous attempt, team 2 was lucky

Skip to 40 seconds lol

[glad meteor]

Not with biscuit

[shell hazel]

cindy should be a better nuker than xmaiden is there

[gritty ridge]

I forgot cindy was defender

Im just trying to figure out how to kill a vesti team if it mercs even through jackal link

[glad meteor]

Main worry is t2 not being 2rl because xmaid kill emi and whiff, then scar crit the team so noise not enough

[shell hazel]

mihara sac at p1-3 is valid, kind of works in your favour lol. My mihara cp too low though to use on my whale really

[gritty ridge]

Ill try bisc team with cindy p5 to eat the 2 sg they have

So basically im gonna run slow cindy

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Red hippos. How long?

[shell hazel]

I do need to invest my mihara some more at some point for my pve

yes I am enredched

[gritty ridge]

I cant run slow cindy until my rumani is invested

[keen vapor]

Why

[gritty ridge]

Cuz she tanks cp hard

[shell hazel]

hmmm a few days? a week maybe

[keen vapor]

Can't tank harder than anis

[gritty ridge]

Im in heavy deficit if I run slow cindy with my current invests

[glad meteor]

No ol prob

Big boi is pve gon

[gritty ridge]

Nah, I just built pve to the point i can clear story

No raid invests

[glad meteor]

Hard campaign is rough. Need anchor ein

Some niche stupid fights

[gritty ridge]

I have manchor invested for snake

Manchor and bready are both supreme

[glad meteor]

I have anchor but 0lb

0lb units combat power is just poop

[gritty ridge]

Mlb manchor

Nah i just got lucky on friendship pulls

[keen vapor]

Now anchor Ada

[shell hazel]

going to try and avoid building too much niche stuff, but needs must I guess

[gritty ridge]

Mihara isnt overloaded either

She is 7 7 7 tho

[shell hazel]

am close to doing this one

about 100 bars

[glad meteor]

CC

[shell hazel]

yeah

so about 5% hp left I think, it's 2.2K bars

[glad meteor]

Damn. Hippos is whale too

All them cores

I’m envious

[shell hazel]

I actually only pulled 1 mast

[glad meteor]

We have same core on crown

[shell hazel]

from the banner, rest just sort of showed up lol

rapi and cindy I pulled/mileaged

[glad meteor]

Like hime. She has core 7 mmast

[shell hazel]

I got 1 rapi in like 250 pulls had to mileage to mlb

cindy can't recall how many it took tbh

[glad meteor]

I got lucky in rapi banner. Pulled 2, mileaged 2

[shell hazel]

yeah, I will never pull too much on the pilgrim banners again tbh

will max 100 if they repeat the reward thing

[glad meteor]

Yeah. Hope anni is just one pilgrim tbh

But watch it be 2/3

[shell hazel]

10 pulls back + some doll mats and chance of lucking a copy

I'm saving mileage for mlb if meta again

[glad meteor]

We’ve still got a long time till treasures come

[glad meteor]

Over 100 days

[keen vapor]

So gem

[shell hazel]

whale burning gems to take it back 😛

I've spent 0 gems so far, was spa last 2 seasons since the shuffle and should also get this one

[glad meteor]

Yeah. I still have my 4 sp tokens

[gritty ridge]

The core dif between us is insane

[shell hazel]

haha I used all my tokens a while back tbh but yeah no gems 🙂

[spare nimbus]

This mine

[shell hazel]

I was playing longer I guess?

[gritty ridge]

Nah i dont think so

[shell hazel]

inc social pulls

[lone sequoia]

cores are just luck or money

[gritty ridge]

I think ive been playing longer than hippo

[lone sequoia]

day 1 f2p

[shell hazel]

damn day1?

[lone sequoia]

like 650 sync cap

[shell hazel]

I go all out for some units a bit, MLB on the ones I want to try and do

I skip a lot lately

[lone sequoia]

i only pull for limited/pilgrim and some meta

[lone sequoia]

but 1 copy is like 200 pulls here

[spare nimbus]

Dang hella tickets

[shell hazel]

yeah but it can go to nothing quick

if you get no SSR in 100 pulls or w/e lol, I've had that

[shell hazel]

lot of mileage

[gritty ridge]

I feel broke

[spare nimbus]

Last time I used was mihara banner

[shell hazel]

250 ord tickets as well saving until anni so I can wishlist prior units

[spare nimbus]

Couldn’t get her lol

[lone sequoia]

around 547 no ssr streak with standard banner 2 years ago

[lone sequoia]

not all the pulls on the same day

[glad meteor]

All this mileage

[gritty ridge]

I havent used gold mileage since s.doro

[lone sequoia]

mlb? good unit

[gritty ridge]

Nah not mlb

Just 1 copy

[spare nimbus]

Only SU would drop a 1% summer banner on a unit that will never be in standard lol

Bruh

[lone sequoia]

i thought it was blood

[haughty mortar]

Can I beat this guy?

[gritty ridge]

The infamous 1rl scar in p1

[tropic summit]

skip T1
jackal scarlet trina centi flex
noah biscuit helmt flex noise

[gritty ridge]

Why skip t1

T1 and t3 look the easiest

[tropic summit]

they're all 3 easy

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but t1 is free with the cindy in p1, and t3 is never gonna burst ever

[tropic summit]

i've seen bricked scarlets dying to invulnerable noah and rumani

i wish i was joking

[gritty ridge]

Thats true, is your scar bricked @haughty mortar

[tropic summit]

t2 and t3 have less variables

[gritty ridge]

Im so many rocks on scarlet atp trying to reroll her hands

[gritty ridge]

The hands are being very difficult

Ill reroll % once I get the lines I want

[tropic summit]

the important lines are almost done tho, get 1 more atk%

ideally get at least 1 ele line to punish ele weak

[swift mango]

Meaning never to me

[shell hazel]

0 rocks today, 1 rock yesterday, 1 rock day before lol

Rail been stealing my rocks again!

[gritty ridge]

Idk what you mean

I have 4 atk lines

Im fishing for an ammo line rn

[tropic summit]

oof i though it was 3 lines on 10%+, you've 2 lines on 5% and 6%

[gritty ridge]

Yeah its rough

I was at 40% atk but I dropped some when i rerolled boots

[haughty mortar]

Define bricked?

[gritty ridge]

How much atk she got

[swift mango]

Me

[gritty ridge]

And whats her skill levels

[tropic summit]

based on your attacks the last 2-3 days, i don't think yours is bricked

it's just on the general sense, you generally want to take the least risky matchup

[gritty ridge]

I like faster matchups

[tropic summit]

if your scarlet is 30-40atk%, SR15, 10/x/10, she's gonna be fine

cherry on top if ammo OL less than 50% and she has extra crit rate and ele atk

[haughty mortar]

I mean it it don't work out so be it, but I do wanna give it a try

Give me a sec. Imma check her attack. She doesn't really have too may OL either

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

My Scarlet no ammo

[tropic summit]

looks like it is doable, just get good RNG now

[shell hazel]

yeah, that horn dead is done 🙂

[gritty ridge]

I thought it was 60% for ammo

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-紅蓮-홍련-gif-5040680170440666403

[gritty ridge]

[keen vapor]

It is, Redtracer never bothers to remember it

[tropic summit]

50 or 60, you make it sound like it's gonna be a huge difference

but you're not wrong

[gritty ridge]

They may think their scar may be bricked cuz they have 55% but in reality they're fine

[tropic summit]

less than 60% means 50% is also fine

[gritty ridge]

You said less than 50

[tropic summit]

ye 49 is gonna be a huge difference

thank god you specified it

[gritty ridge]

Listen man

[gritty ridge]

Im just a babby boy and you booly me

Nvrmind, is bricked

[tropic summit]

it's like arguing having 3% salt or 2% salt in a recipe

does it matter? no

some like their pasta more salty some less salty

not even 4 pieces OL'ed seems like it was a good call afterall

[spare nimbus]

Why can my team beat guys who are a bit above me in sync but some other dude way below me can beat me 😭

[tropic summit]

the difference between monkeys and someone who knows how to use the internet

[spare nimbus]

[gritty ridge]

If somebody knows what they're doing, no defense but cp works

[tropic summit]

to git gud in this game pvp arena gameplay you don't need months of practice or skill of some type, you just need 1 hour of reading archetypes and burst gen

alternatively, there's always the easy mode via 💳

[tropic summit]

now go clear chapter 31

[gritty ridge]

Congrats hippo

[shell hazel]

lmao 2 secs left 😄

[gritty ridge]

Now do it again

[spare nimbus]

Unfortunately 💳 method won’t work for me since I have 2 other whales in my group

[shell hazel]

thanks 🙂

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[tropic summit]

amen

[spare nimbus]

I mean at least I’m caught up to them, or at least relative to them regarding core dust per hour

[umbral crown]

Thate called: skill issues

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

And the others know how to cook

[spare nimbus]

I passed 36-25A a bit ago so I jumped from 93 core dust per hour to 102

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

The whales are at like 104

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

realistically, don't get too attached to arena or your rank though, the moment one of those below you learns to use the internet they'll be able to beat any defense just like you do

this gameplay is meaningless for the most part

[spare nimbus]

I’m a bit confused cause those two used to be able to beat me

[haughty mortar]

So what are your suggestions?

[gritty ridge]

Are you wanting to progress your pvp capabilities?

[haughty mortar]

Yessir

[gritty ridge]

Prioritize scarlet overloads and then vesti

Assuming you have vesti

Scarlet wants 4 atk 1 ammo as a baseline

The ammo line just has to be under 60%

[haughty mortar]

I am still focusing on PVE lines. I was working on Biscuit OL. Should I swap to Scar instead?

[gritty ridge]

If youre focusing on pve lines then pvp will be slow to develop at this stage

[haughty mortar]

I was going to work on Centi after and then Scar

[gritty ridge]

How close is biscuit to full ol?

[haughty mortar]

2 gears, but need fodder

[gritty ridge]

Finishing bisc will be fine, but do scarlet after her.

[haughty mortar]

OK

[gritty ridge]

Do you have all the clip rl?

[haughty mortar]

But RN for my 2 attack attempts?

[haughty mortar]

Whot?

[gritty ridge]

Centi, trina, jackal, rumani, anis

[haughty mortar]

Anis is used in PVP?!

But yes I have them all

[shell hazel]

anis can work but chances are your anis is low power

[haughty mortar]

ABSOLUTELY 💩

[gritty ridge]

Anis should be very end of the line invest

Shes mainly a CA unit

[haughty mortar]

So how should I approach this? Any team amendments needed?

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lubF2x31QvI I posted my boss run but there is pause tech here also, sorry Rail 😛

[gritty ridge]

Swap scar team to team 2 and your team 2 to team 3

Should win no problem

[haughty mortar]

T2 and 3 won!

[gritty ridge]

Congrats

[haughty mortar]

I am in top 4!!

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

now just to blend in

[haughty mortar]

Who would you say I have a chance against? I think #3?

[wise horizon]

need help here

[gritty ridge]

I have no clue what their teams are homeslice

[gritty ridge]

T1 you cannot have noah in p2 if she has taunt prio

You feed them extra

[gritty ridge]

Maybe, t1 and t2 look super easy

You would need bisc for t1 tho

[haughty mortar]

I can swap and change? What you suggest, homeboi?

[gritty ridge]

Do you have bay or noah

[haughty mortar]

Yeah Noah is in T2

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

I mean you

[lunar pawn]

What are those matchups

[haughty mortar]

Oh shit mb, I thought I was using noah. Yes I do have noah

[gritty ridge]

Ok one sec

[haughty mortar]

Someone I wanna beat from 3rd place

[lunar pawn]

Scar trina jackal t1
Skip t2
Cindy noah nuke t3

[haughty mortar]

No Cindy

[quartz rover]

My spa isnt ready for the heat

[lunar pawn]

Did you post your roster anywhere

[gritty ridge]

Is your drake or b.soda or noir strong?

[haughty mortar]

I cannot wait to get my 20 free slots!

[gritty ridge]

Check cp

T1 and t2

[quartz rover]

So which skill do I want til bay T is good for pvp

[gritty ridge]

4 4 4

[quartz rover]

I mean treasure

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

Bay skill levels dont matter, 4 4 4 is cheap

[quartz rover]

Which treasure skill matters the most

[gritty ridge]

Ohhh

P3 lets her work in p1/p2

[haughty mortar]

Tia?! In Slot 5?! She ain't popping off.

[lunar pawn]

Can run thelm burst + flex b3 then, like sbs or something

[gritty ridge]

Shes a defender, shes there to eat sg shots

[restive oak]

Any recommendations for like rookie or even special and champion?

[gritty ridge]

Btw @haughty mortar post the matchup before you send it

[gritty ridge]

Ah ur good

[lunar pawn]

Jackal, scarlet, trina, noise, work on them and get them dolls

[gritty ridge]

Put a temper cube on noah

[lunar pawn]

Sbs too

[haughty mortar]

Already carrying 🙂 So I can try?

[gritty ridge]

Yup

[lunar pawn]

Record it

[gritty ridge]

We need 🍿

[haughty mortar]

Me or Spark? And how?

[lunar pawn]

Indeed

[gritty ridge]

You on mobile or pc

[haughty mortar]

PC

[gritty ridge]

Either way just screen record

[lunar pawn]

OBS, or windows key + G

[haughty mortar]

Shit I added a new scene to obs to display game capture but I only see black screen

NM got it

[shell hazel]

my nvidia thing has a built in recording function

[haughty mortar]

I lost but T1 won

[gritty ridge]

T2 lost?

Ohhh I forgot abt siren

Wait, no siren wouldnt have been taunted

How did you lose

[haughty mortar]

You made me into a broke boi

[gritty ridge]

Where is our video

[haughty mortar]

OBS refused to cooperate

any suggestions to team amendment?

[lunar pawn]

Use mine

[gritty ridge]

I dont know what went wrong so I cant make any, go with doppel's I suppose

[swift mango]

My CP reduced by nearly 10k but at least my Emi got her 3rd CS line.

Idk how to feel about the black line Crit rate though.... Should I keep it or should I not?....

[gritty ridge]

You know you want that crit rate for miranda

[lunar pawn]

Why did you lock it, is the real question

[swift mango]

Line 2.

If I don't want to keep it I could just remove the lock

[lunar pawn]

Yes but resources have already been wasted

[swift mango]

It's okay to waste some lock.
I use blue lock often for line I don't want to go so, anyway.

[gritty ridge]

Does emi have any wants other than attack and cs?

[swift mango]

1-2 ammo

[gritty ridge]

I dont think ele would be particularly important on her

[swift mango]

Ele is good enough against Vesti

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but if vesti is surviving a burst shot in the first place I think theres an issue

[lunar pawn]

I've yet to see a faceoff between emi and vesti

Feels like it'd be an indom race, and at that point the first shot to land after indom wins

[swift mango]

Nah, I meant to kill her before she burst.

[gritty ridge]

[lunar pawn]

Rosanna+Emilia

[swift mango]

Ofc you would need like 100% Ele for that.

[lunar pawn]

How built does rosanna need to be to 1 shot vesti?

[swift mango]

She can't if equally invested, tempering and no Crit, I guess. But Vesti would eat normal dmg before Rossanna shot at her so it's fine usually

[gritty ridge]

Before rosana what

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

you need someone to help drop her HP to ensure she's dead pre burst, stuff like splashers or vestiTU herself, assuming she's in p1 or p2 or p3

p1 and p2 can be hit by regular splashers
p3 only by emi and vestiTU

if for w/e reason enemy vestiTU is in p5, then SRs can also

[gritty ridge]

Hey rail, papa, could you help me learn

[tropic summit]

what troubles you son

[gritty ridge]

How did my team cooks fail papa, I dont know what went wrong

[tropic summit]

context

[gritty ridge]

Bottom is my cook

Noah should've stunned and sbs should've eaten the enemy team but I was told they lost

Oh wait

Im silly I realized the issue

Biscuit locked p1 means neutered sbs

Rapi instead of sbs would probably fix the issue

[tropic summit]

yeh

distributed dmg on invulnerable target is negated

you countered yourself

[gritty ridge]

Yup

[tropic summit]

use backstab or standard nuke with stun is fine

[gritty ridge]

Sniper indom would face the same issue

Cindy p5

Unless cindy has a unique interaction

[tropic summit]

there's more backstab than SRs

s.anis exists

she'll eat helmt first, then siren then cindy

[gritty ridge]

Ah thats true

[tropic summit]

the idea to stun noah is still valid although, vestiTU would make short work of helmt and biscuit while behind your own noah shield

you can then slowly out trade

[gritty ridge]

#pvp-arena message box has an issue with the standard options

[tropic summit]

i'd go for:

noah bis vestiTU helmt siren
or
noah bis s.anis helmt siren

[digital rivet]

vestiTU comes to standard banner with the RE update right?

[gritty ridge]

I believe so

[tropic summit]

2nd option looks available
#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Oh I missed sanis

[tropic summit]

although if you going 3RL you'll need to cover for the stun

so match the team based on the speed

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I had noah in p5

[tropic summit]

e.g.

gave you some hints now find the solution

[crystal flicker]

Rail on the night duty

[gritty ridge]

Oh yeah, its around 10 for you isnt it rail

UK based and all

[tropic summit]

11:41pm, watching animu

grand blue s2 and My Dress-Up Darling s2

[gritty ridge]

I read all of dress up darling, its pretty good

[lunar pawn]

wait my dress up darling has a s2?

oh the manga is finished?

[tropic summit]

ye all eps are out since this week

[crystal flicker]

I read the one where she plays with grandpa

[gritty ridge]

There are 2 anime im waiting for the new season on, and I dont think they're coming

DxD and NGNL are pretty much a lost cause

[lunar pawn]

@leaden marten check SPA

[digital rivet]

I disliked the animation change for DxD

[gritty ridge]

I think quite a few did, I didnt mind it

[crystal flicker]

I like fantasy, but most of today's Fantasy/Isekai just boring in general

[gritty ridge]

Isekai has been drowned out as a genre

Very few are any good

[lunar pawn]

what happened to gate

[crystal flicker]

Another timeline no?

[lunar pawn]

I remember the manga was way more brutal than the anime, and I never read the LN

[crystal flicker]

I hate where they just time skip everything

[gritty ridge]

I didnt like gate if im being honest, I don't like the mix of modern military with high fantasy

[lunar pawn]

it was refreshing instead of the usual isekai slop

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I like just standard high fantasy

Theres like 1 isekai off the top of my head that I think was good

Other than no game

Jobless reincarnation was pretty well done imo

[glad meteor]

Gon

[rustic sandal]

Currently my team for rookie arena is:

SBS, Blanc, T Helm, Centi, jackal

Special arena team is:

Drunk Scarlet, Siren, Trina, Centi, Jackal

Blanc, SBS, Biscuit, T Helm, Liter

Last team was just auto highest cp

Since I've been using these teams Ive gotten alot of new characters, and I have also started to plateau in climbing rank. If anybody could help me with setting up a new team, that I can focus on upgrading from here on out, it would be much appreciated.

Also for dolls whats the reccommend for pvp. Going 15 blue or 5 purple?

[gritty ridge]

Huh, your spa teams are pretty good actually

Oh did you skip vesti...

[gritty ridge]

Sr 5 should be what you want for all your units eventually, and then sr15 on your dmg dealers/tankers

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit #pvp-arena message do you think there is a way to beat this at deficit?

[haughty mortar]

OK I am back!

I went out cycling 🙂

[covert lintel]

That's so much ez compared to mine

[haughty mortar]

But it seems I blew my attempts

[covert lintel]

And yours is only 20 level

[leaden marten]

@lunar pawn done, ty

[rustic sandal]

Yea I know she is cracked for pvp but I felt like I should just wait to ticket her, since at the time I was power leveling my main squad. You have any rec for changing the teams around at all or for rookie arena? or like if I should try and buiild an actual 3rd team instead of just highest cp

[lunar pawn]

[gritty ridge]

Youre kind of missing protection for t3

Your rookie would probably benefit from indom scar tho

This with either siren or redhood would be a pretty solid team

Assuming scar links

[rustic sandal]

I have noah wishlisted rn so i feel like I might be able to make a decen third once I get her. whats the assuming scar links? pvp memory is always hazy since I ignore it outside of building new teams

[gritty ridge]

Jackal will form a link with the 2 highest final attack nikke

[rustic sandal]

ahh ok don't know why I had that confused with siren

what would I slot in for the open slot, just another b2 like centi?

[gritty ridge]

The open slot there is for either siren or redhood

Its up to personal preference

[rustic sandal]

yo my fault gang im a lil faded and completly spaced on u already answering that

[gritty ridge]

Ur all good homeslice

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/zuko-thats-rough-avatar-soka-funny-gif-9847954

i seen worse but that's pertty bad

[glad meteor]

My c1 is untouchable. 487 vs 589

And he invested pvp units for ca

[shell hazel]

[lunar pawn]

thankfully I didn't invest in CA units

I never make the cut

[swift mango]

It doesn't matter at that level tbh.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, he could just put anything and it’s over

[tropic summit]

you need 1.8kk in both of the two enemy padded teams

assuming you can push to 1.700.000 that'd be 21% deficit, which is doable with biscuit locked team + cindy

since T1 is very slow, you can afford padding it to 4RL, while enemy T2 won't even burst as they lack B1, T3 is doable with regular team as you're not in deficit

make a plan around that and you can win it

[covert lintel]

Even if he's joking to match his def with average cp in his bracket, he would still win

[swift mango]

Team 2 doesn't burst so he could win at 25% deficit with biscut

[tropic summit]

ye it's reasonable

[swift mango]

Nah, if he lowered his CP to not gap anymore he became beatable.

[covert lintel]

Oh really? 100lv diff?

[swift mango]

Yeah, I have seen 200 level diff beaten even.

Just don't gap and bad enough teams

[lunar pawn]

wut, how

[swift mango]

Lv1 nikkes

[lunar pawn]

naked teams? 0 gear 0 dolls 111

ah

[leaden canyon]

I replaced blanc with centi on round 3 and put blanc on round 2

Forgot to cube alice

so more cp

@tropic summit

I lost all three rounds

round 1 was closer than I thought

[swift mango]

Use biscuit to beat their team 2 and we could beat team 3 with indom. Scarlet or something. Just check in rookie if your scarlet still have ammo at the end of indom.

[leaden canyon]

I think she should still have ammo at the end, espcially if I put like bastion on her

[swift mango]

Wait, team 3, you could go with RH buffed indom Vesti.

[leaden canyon]

so like jackal vesti blanc hood battery?

well with jackal at the end

[swift mango]

Is your Vesti higher attack than RH?

[covert lintel]

Rosanna doesn't have affinity with emi, so you shouldn't do that

[leaden canyon]

no

I'm gonna try something

[swift mango]

I think Rail cook is valid

Team 3 we could go with

Vesti+Emi+Rossanna+Blanc+Jackal. Provided Rossanna is linked

Team 2: You could beat it with

Defender+Biscuit+X+X+Defender

[covert lintel]

Wouldn't team 2 easily win with makima?

[swift mango]

Provided his Makima is invested. And he need tank p5 too.

[leaden canyon]

My something worked

[swift mango]

30% deficit and he would probably lose even with biscuit

[swift mango]

Barely worked with B2 almost ded. Your team 2 was what I said.

[leaden canyon]

yeah the team 2 was yours

[covert lintel]

Now fix team 1
Such a waste for blanc to lose there

[leaden canyon]

idk if team 1 can be fixed

[swift mango]

It's good that it worked.

Just replace units in team 3 as you deem fit if it's not working anymore, the basic is still Rossanna+Vesti/Emi to kill link.

[leaden canyon]

I guess I could try and remove sbs for noir which makes it 171 and its way more burst gen

would suck if moran gets the blanc indom though

[swift mango]

Well, if you can't hit 3rl and can't protect p5 you aren't bursting anyway.

[leaden canyon]

it almost burst

the gen increase from noir should make it burst

Hopefully

[swift mango]

Almost.

[leaden canyon]

it like like 60% when moran died

it is copium though

[covert lintel]

Oh rip, now is the last day of SR
I really don't want to touch that

[swift mango]

Blanc died even before Moran.

[leaden canyon]

I'll just move her p3

fingers crossed

like idk what else I could change becuase a lot of things makes it dip below 170

[swift mango]

You should be fine at around 168

[covert lintel]

Let rosanna fight high deficit and build new for team 3

[swift mango]

Rossanna isn't very good against high deficit.

[leaden canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1358023678817734716/axszQ2v-bxriXsT1kS8w-8w.gif

[swift mango]

Also today is SR last day?

No more free mats.

[leaden canyon]

what should I add to it then

can check cp after

[swift mango]

Maybe Emi or a clip RL for burst gen

[leaden canyon]

I can only add rapi, sbs, noise, scarlet, alice to keep it above 168 if the team is moran flex blanc noir drake

[swift mango]

You don't need noir or Drake if you added a clip RL

[leaden canyon]

the cp would tank

[swift mango]

Now you removed both Noir and drake.

Could add Nosie p5 from your list and burst with Drake.

[leaden canyon]

cant remove noir for clip RL because cp would ge way below 168

[swift mango]

My struggle with Soda doll is real.

SR0 to SR5 needed to get to SR3.

SR5 to 10 needed to get to 8.

At least this last one was a bit better.

[leaden canyon]

I still dont have soda built

[swift mango]

She basically only needs base OL and doll.

[covert lintel]

Cp too

[swift mango]

You don't even need OL just doll is fine for CA too.

[swift mango]

Base OL high CP. Only need to reroll if and one line.

[keen vapor]

Trina got an attack line

[covert lintel]

Now that vesti is meta, soda needs more hp to survive in p2&p3

[swift mango]

She doesn't need to if she just stun before she died.

[leaden canyon]

or just sr 5 and slap a tempering on her, maybe thats enough

[covert lintel]

That's why she needs hp to survive before she burst

[swift mango]

Well, sr15 is another tempering

[leaden canyon]

true

the mats though

[swift mango]

She is burst 1 in a 2rl team. Just add more CS to your team so she burst before Vesti even attack.

[covert lintel]

My soda is sr15 and equipped tempering already

[swift mango]

Just be lucky and Sr0 to sr15 with 30 blue.

[swift mango]

Also, no reason to Soda p3, just 2 or 4.

[keen vapor]

Well, it was good while it lasted

[swift mango]

Are you getting to CA this season?

[keen vapor]

Yes

Not 3k gems

[swift mango]

Also, why the 6 days without trying to hit c1-2?

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

They're both five hundred fifty - HIME NOOOOOOOO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[swift mango]

You should be 501++++

[umbral belfry]

that'll teach you to let your break echo

[swift mango]

Check

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

He opened a discord after months

[hoary maple]

I just joined this discord a few hours ago and I'm already in a screenshot

[umbral belfry]

now you gotta fight back echo

[hoary maple]

Echo beats me like 8 out of 10 times

[swift mango]

Remember to post his def next time and @tropic summit to break it for you.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Maybe @umbral belfry she will be ready.

[umbral belfry]

gotta grind my cook exp

[keen vapor]

My rival the true F2P

[gritty ridge]

Is that so

[umbral belfry]

omg bigboi LMFAO

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

You won't believe the troubles your teams caused me as well

[swift mango]

Be active here and echo wouldn't be able to beat you as much.

[keen vapor]

That Drake, that Blanc

Is he searching on my message log?

[umbral crown]

70

[gritty ridge]

Hes going to uncover all your secrets and beat you

[umbral crown]

you found anoter boi from your bracket?

[swift mango]

No one from my bracket is using discord I guess.

[gritty ridge]

Skill issue smh

[keen vapor]

He just joined the server today

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I talk to my rank 1 in spa, but he's not in maincord

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-nikke-goddess-of-victory-hammer-bonk-leviathan-gif-519596210219763242

[umbral crown]

c4 from my bracket is in this server but he hardly ever answer my messages

we could do funny things but he does not wanna uwu

[gritty ridge]

My rank 1 joined my union discord

Hes now in one of the sister unions

[umbral crown]

waos

[covert lintel]

Who

[gritty ridge]

It wasnt me that made him join, it was @daring remnant Im like 90% sure

[umbral crown]

c4

[hoary maple]

When my group got reshuffled a few weeks ago it looked like I could make top 4. But I keep getting bullied

Not really

[umbral crown]

RM

[covert lintel]

Yeah @keen vapor has always been a meanie

[covert lintel]

The name

[quiet merlin]

jackal-blanc-vesti-icemaiden-emilia
how do i beat this?

[umbral crown]

this

[swift mango]

Flip this same team.

[swift mango]

So you weren't able to make top 4 before?

[keen vapor]

That's funny, when reshuffle happened and Abathur was gone I thought I'll be finally be peaceful in my bracket

[hoary maple]

No, before just a few weeks ago I was always around 10-12

[swift mango]

I guess @keen vapor Echo bracket was the bricked bracket all along. He bricked like 40+ levels.

[umbral crown]

80

[covert lintel]

Spend 1k$ above your level, you'll get your peaceful

[swift mango]

Time to gem him down. Echo won't gem you back so don't worry.

He is certified hoarder. For nikke 2.0

[covert lintel]

[violet spoke]

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel we have the whole gang now

[hoary maple]

Oh you're all here, lol.

[swift mango]

Now everyone should target that C3 from @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

We still miss XP and Hero

Couldn't find them

Neither Dirk or the bigger whale that made Dirk whale even further

[violet spoke]

Iam pretty sure someone else in our bracket is in this server but i haven't checked if its them

[clear vessel]

ANOTHER FREN!

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

My dream where I can talk with my bracket finally comes true

[clear vessel]

Party in the house

[keen vapor]

This brings us new challenges though we will have to deal with the monster

HERO

[mild trail]

Hello guys, any advice how to beat this team ? thanks

[keen vapor]

Cindy and Emilia Indom

[keen vapor]

Have you tried Scar Trina against that Cindy team before?

[lunar pawn]

redpi/tvesti indom vs 1st team, 3RL noah nuke team vs the 2nd one probably

alternatively, moran+bay/nero against his 2nd team

[keen vapor]

This teams expect enemy teams to be 2.5 RL but if either remains on 3RL (low chance tbf) you can Scar Trina safely in theory

[keen vapor]

Oh, we thought alike

[keen vapor]

You use Rapi often huh?

[keen vapor]

What? No, Bay useless against Emilia

[lunar pawn]

not really, I only fight the same 1-2 guys in my bracket now, don't need to use her vs them

oh wait, blanc

[umbral crown]

bay does not work against emi

[lunar pawn]

meant it as a side option for nero

but blanc is there

unsure how effective DR strat would be there

[umbral crown]

DR team vs rh blanc is no bueno

its asking to be nuked

[lunar pawn]

yea, so just noah delay

and make sure to feed him into 2RL

[umbral crown]

moran noah biscuit sanis rapunzel coud be a good pick

but nero team against cindy team works fine

[keen vapor]

I thought on stunning Emilia so she doesn't gets BIG nuke and just stall till she dies

[lunar pawn]

we don't even know this guy's roster

and whether he's still around

he just dropped enemy teams and took a hike

[keen vapor]

We wait

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Now Check has uncovered my true identity
I'm the destroyer of PVP defenses for the official discord server

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

No?

[umbral crown]

i do not know

[rich ledge]

Vesti is 4 ele 4 att 2 ammo 2 cs for pvp and PvE use?

[swift mango]

I would say 1 or 3 CS if you wanted to be optimal but yeah.

[rich ledge]

Why is it 1 or 3? Previously I thought 5% cs is a breakpoint is there new info?

[swift mango]

1 line 5% is fine. 15% could help her having speed similar to Emi 25% third shot on her 3rd shoots.

[umbral crown]

yep

[rich ledge]

1 line 5% is too hard to now 2 lines 5% is more manageable haha

My ammo got bricked on the chest when I was rerolling, need to wait for more rocks

If 3 lines CS we will reduce ammo to 1 line?

[swift mango]

It's actually Ele we are reducing.

[keen vapor]

4 attack will compensate

If only my Vesti could get any

[swift mango]

Do one rock roll until ATK line 2 or 3 and then lock it.

If you had CS, Ammo, Crit or Ele line 3 you could lock to roll for ATK.

That's it. No other secret.

[swift mango]

Actually 11% Vesti is fine. No need 15%.

2 lines are enough for 11%.

[umbral crown]

but what if vesti 17

[swift mango]

17% is 15%. Or 18% with cube.

[swift mango]

How is your Emi?

[umbral crown]

emi 25

[swift mango]

If you wanted to match their attack for seasonal buff you would need your Emi to 21%

[umbral crown]

could be 29 anytime soon but do not wanna lose cp now

[swift mango]

Be real, tell me the trust.

[gritty ridge]

Chat if there is a c7 40% atk besti in my spa, do I have any ways to deal with it?

[umbral crown]

source: trust me bro

[gritty ridge]

It scares me

[swift mango]

Don't count her s1.

[umbral crown]

then 12

[umbral crown]

yeah, skip it

[gritty ridge]

I think im gonna have to slow cindy it

[gritty ridge]

I cant

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I think slow cindy might genuinely be my only option

[umbral crown]

then go for it

[swift mango]

Then you aren't matching their attack. Emi also has a break point at 21%. When the B1 of the 2.5rl team with her hitting last to make it 2.5rl won't be stunned by Siren.

For Vesti it's 8% for her 3rd attack to do similar thing.

[gritty ridge]

Do you think it'll work? It has to survive an awfully long time

Does anybody else benefit the team by dying?

Hold on, I have a clip of it eating my team

[swift mango]

If indom then use Rapipi indom.

If Noah then use Vesti Blanc

If Jackal+Biscuit could just Rossanna it.

[gritty ridge]

How am I supposed to indom if it kills my team pre 2rl

[swift mango]

They can't kill your team if you are on biscuit. You could also revive with Rapu, Mana.

[spare nimbus]

Team 1 won last time, but would putting siren instead of rh be less risky?

[keen vapor]

doubt in this case

Like, you need them to delete them to ashes, not cancel their indom

[mild trail]

yeah, i tried it but still lost

[keen vapor]

Then it's 2.5 speed

[mild trail]

Okay, gonna try latter

thanks guys, appreciate it

[glad meteor]

P3 linked siren against vesti, and 2sg hitting jackal. Your link is cooked

[rich ledge]

Jill pvp potential? Seems like she is not feeding like normal AR

[lunar pawn]

🚮

[swift mango]

Need to know her burst gen. But her kits alone is basically Alice, so not really for Arena.

If she somehow got HelmT or SR.Anis burst gen as an AR unit then she would be meta. Usable at least if Clip SG burst gen.

So I guess we have no Arena units this Collab folks. Ada probably just an off burst buffer for Vesti/Ein/Emi with Mag RL burst gen, that's it.

Ada is getting more use and longevity than Jill because she is a buffer.... Poor Jill.

[gritty ridge]

9 ammo ar

[swift mango]

It's like Scarlet 20 slash AR.

A different weapon style, just put into AR for convenience shake.

[gritty ridge]

I mean, 20 is still alot more than 9

[swift mango]

Pistol normally hold 9 ammo, It's just right.

[gritty ridge]

What pistols are you using

[swift mango]

See what she holds on her hand.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i see shes holding pistols, but 9 ammo is still low for anything thats not a revolver

[swift mango]

Revolver? Should have 6 ammo no?

[keen vapor]

Uh huh
I'm resetting Fire Asuka but not Rei

[gritty ridge]

Depends on the revolver

Regardless, 9 ammo is a strange number to choose

[swift mango]

Rei is a buffer. Asuka also buff but no fire boss with core recently.

[keen vapor]

Damn, the core hit buff

[keen vapor]

It's not

Is standard pistol

[swift mango]

https://springhilloutfitters.com/blog/how-many-bullets-9mm-magazine/#:~:text=For most compact and full,from 6 to 10 rounds.

[gritty ridge]

Ive never owned one that held less than 10

[keen vapor]

You own guns !

[gritty ridge]

Yeah?

Few rifles, a shotgun, and ive gone through a few pistols

[swift mango]

He gonna shoot you death echo.

How could you not own a gun being a Mexican?

[keen vapor]

I'm a legal person