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Just pull dupe and run healerless on a real cube tbh 
@wind kelp
Viola quit the game too?
idk but that combat power looks like 32-32 to me
That looks like 34-37 to me 
34 have a 37?
Ch34 boss is 34-38
I am indeed stuck there

first of all i run low ammo scarlet
Guess PC diff 
and second of all i have only 2 attack lines
Doesn't help
if u have mroe attack lines you might not break
Yeah, your scar worse than mine.
How the heck more ATK line means worse.
i'm trolling you obviously

Yeah, PC diff. I did this team and it doesn't do anything.
hard to aim core on mobile
i do what i do to get by i went what if i try electric team, turns out scarlet breaks core, i'm like ok send
i tried cinderella and raven, turns out raven cant break shit
That's why I'm
main. I can probably 11b+ with my investment if on PC.
But still nowhere 3% in SEA anyways
Every raid I look at people 3-4b Rapipi and look at mine 2b Rapipi and sad. 
my rapi is 2 atk 3 ele and the rolls are white
Mine 1 AtK 2 ele 0lb.
Siren 0atk 2ele.
tbh i dont have much of blue and black lines so always assume regular ass lines
Idk how can you even get black line on Carrier. Sound impossible. 
my siren 
which is one of my best rollec characters

since she has no empty lines
Less hit rate, CS and DEF than mine. Good enough. 
i dont mind hit rate
she's inaccurate af
my rapi
which also has no empty lines
hopefully one day i can roll that crit dmg into a atk or crit rate
zanta how we feeling about the power of friendship today?



5/12 being useless
i kinda wish su would work charge speed to work with mg rampup
cp pad confirmed 
apple iPad?
nah
one of the reasons i didnt take off that last def roll is cuz indivilia some times leaves rapi with like literal sliver of hp
the def cope is real
it is what it is
its line3 and i dont wanna go through it
as long as i maintain 3% i'm kinda of
just indifferent ish?
18.69% def Rapipi.
good for pvp
How was SW? Can she become top dps this time?
prob need miranda somewhat for her
i should have invested eve/sw
No but ofc got a slot in meta line up. 
But you should ask this in Team building.
I need more resources 
instead i invested raven who edges mihara by insignificant amount
granted raven can go higher but i wont beable to get ther before raid end
Not like i have any intention to seriously participate in SR ranking
Well, you should be 3% easily at your level
@shell hazel will prob coipum use rosana b1
i kinda wanna test absolute trio
If it's a SR museum then i can
My Soda carried my ass this SR. 
i looked at some of the teams in pins but i don't really know what to use, any ideas?
The highest CP you could make
I wonder if i could do it with this team too
then i swap out jackal for eve? but i thought eve wasn't that good for pvp
13.7b could hope for 3% 
Jackal+Main B3+Blanc+flex+flex
so jackal, sbs, blanc, siren, then i can't think of who to go in the last slot
Helm
Quickly build her first
She is the most meta of all nikke, can pvp and pve
don't have the dupes to get helm treasure yet 
is there someone i can use instead of thelm in the mean time?
Anis SR
Good morning everyone. Who do you think will win this matchup? I’m thinking Tex because puppet has non buffed scarlet and tez is on defense.
@shell hazel it works
I lack 1/2 from that list :S
that team looks weird
But it worked. 
surely u can run dis list #pvp-arena message
some if it but no milk 😛
soda just offburst? 😄
scar/trina/cindy etc probably my move to make, need an iron dps or works without any?
absolute is oddly a good setO.oo.o.o>O>O>o
actually scarlet trina level with laplace
why anchor burst first tho
I can swap em was just on auto burst
You want iron for QTE unless you want to lose dps from sitting there on 3 elec shields
If no BMilk you have to Liter
i slotted b milk for that team
yeah I don't have her
was literal cruise tier with the amount of distributed dmg procs between sbs dorothy and bmilk
liter it is
no way PvP player can Crown MMast team lol, your other 3 team other than SG gonna be ass
No Iron and you suffer from no able to break circle . But it's not a wipe
PvP player never gonna be able to build SW or SRos team and elec team is not real
Liter 
I'll mock battle a bit and see what works best
Raven definitely bait 
that team not possible to play without high invest
can't kill core, can't kill mobs
I’m weirded out now, maybe I should invest more into absolute
Damage is similar to scarlet Trina anis electric team
hmm can't kill core with scar team :9
I do have damage loss replacing Laplace with Alice on redhood team
what did you run zant?
Scar Trina should be able to kill core
it's not working atm need to adjust something
it will take 2 burst though
Cindy literally scarlet Trina anis
Nah I get it down in 1
cindy burst first?
well you also have Liter + Anis
Ye
U kinda need liter in there
nah I didn't run Scar Trina with elec, I used them on team 5
And anis is necessary for low ammo scarlet
Apparently. If you want to take their palce, teams are up there 😄
I feel like I have excess of 7/7/7 teams now I need to upgrade skil levels
Raven shows me randomly derping out a ele compatible didn’t help
#pvp-arena message and #pvp-arena message for the teams, first for 1(scar team), second againt team 3.
oh lmao forgot to do xmaiden burst but yeah not amazing damage all the same
my s.anis not at all built though I could throw her in, iron QTE sucks though
Won't matter if they don't log in.
But I have neither your CP nor Emilia.
alright we're going blood ver
You need to wait for LapT to get 5 stack before first burst. Aim with soda
True that, there's probably other scar teams too, these folks here know how to crack eggs 😄
my LapT might be atk bricked though 🙁
My lapT is 51010
Liter b1 sanis replace maiden
liter is on the sbs team remember 😄
mine has good enough skills but yeah her ol not great, can't quite get core even with 5 stacks
pull BAde 
just use RH lol
no point malding elec team, it's not even good on this SR
Use shelm/eve for off burst over maiden
let's be real here for a sec though even if I pull milk or bade I don't have any resources to give them anything
Maiden just buff attack of electric units/ Shelm/Eve gib damage taken, same difference but u get to pop electric qte
Maiden’s elements damage boost is irrelevant
Me on the other hand can't get over even 50% core dmg on phone. 
Run absolute support +laplace then rouge Cinderella then 
Might need to turn off aim assist
I could break it in 2 cycles but the circle shot at middle of the fight also a problem for me.
Yeah on mobile u have to sniper
On pc u can basically use anything
Dear god, I am somehow triggered by all teams except t1
Hey if you 3% it a 3%
Actually on mobile you can crosshair sync or use pause

The teams are mechanically sound idk what ur talking about
You think 11.6 is 3%?
Felt easier than the other raids to reach this number
yeah but people getting fisted by the mechanics
Idk this raid seems easier than ziz
I did better than on Ziz too
I struggled to get 11 b on ziz
This raid I just did a bit of home brew and out comes 11.4, on retry 11.6
Might hit 12b if I didn’t spend all that resource on Raven
but people either struggling or they waiting to copy teams or something
Yeah, I need sniper or MG to not hit White circle on Mobile. It was poor enrant. 
Wasted 15 minutes of my life.
cuz my rank dropping way slower than on Ziz
Today is day 1
nah even for Ziz day 1 I was already knocked out of top 200 around this time of day on day 1 of challenge
this time I'm still 13x

so they not running or I surpassed them 
Im just suprised at the team options I have at my disposal now
Tried a good number of different comps and my damage is more less similar
Which tells me I should raise skill levels

you could also just pick an element to master 
slightly above 7mil but 2 teams need optimizing, i can probably push a tad higher
raven't
Rare gatrix appearance 
sometimes he comes down to meet the mortals

but bunny ade is hot
bunny milk is adorable
concerning ade


My SW looks a bit weird. 
Rapipi is iron. 
Too much fire
what's your score 
@keen vapor 
I got the teams yesterday's night, haven't tried them yet 
Who cooked for you? @strong hull ? @fathom rock ? 
He cooked himself

He said he got the team and haven't tried. So I assumed it meant he got it from someone.
Partially Andy with some spins of myself :frog sip:


Tbh im just doing some comp testing tho
Only me know my roster best. If I asked for cook I doubt anyone would come up with Eve solo. And I won't have 5 teams. 
other people cook they assume you have actual invested units
then you run and you realize their comp unplayable with your invest


@brazen ledge please enjoy your credits 😄
the thing I was scared of, the tenshi showdown
gg
@hollow lagoon @nimble swan @cunning crown @umbral belfry the power of friendship arc continues
That's why I spin it 
I tried sending blabla to let know my investments better 
winning run
Good luck on 2nd champ 
U CAN DO ITTT 
The time has come

if you win does this also make me a 2 time champ too hippo
where your blinking star 
rip pies
wym, phoric is also pie 
I predicted similar results, nice
Now all you have to do is just beating Tenshi 
phoric is out

OK next matches, I haven't accounted for much in the way of CS on their side so they could have more speed than I show.
I'm attacking here (boo lol)
t1 - I should win this, just need my scarlet to knock em dead
t2 - I win this I think as well they're hitting biscuit wall with sg's
t3 - I doubt I can prevent cindy bursting so it's a loss
t4 - stall vs sbs indom trades fairly well I think? could win this
t5 - I win this one surely
I think 2/5 are wins for sure, 1 or 4 should also be a win on one of them
t1 depends on how invested their vesti is to not kill before scar bursts
that is true
yeah many things can go wrong
but I think 2 and 5 are wins, if I lose 1 I should still win 4?
stall should be favored into SBS Blanc
their Biscuit proc split between Rumani and Blanc too
I think hippo wins 
What happened to his rei ayanami meme team 
2 4 5
I need to survive the SBS basically
hippo if you somehow lose stall v sbs 
blanc does counter moran somewhat though right
I do think 2.5RL Helm into 3RL Blanc is kinda close sniping wise, Helm burst has delay
she does but helm will outdeal sbs dmg
cuz I've tried it a few times in SPA and I can't snipe in time sometimes
yeah my helm still not quite got the cs rolls I want either
yeah stall wins that
Easy, you win 2, 4, 5
t3 you can actually just kill Noah + Centi before they can B2
Noah dies in 3 volleys max, Centi dies to 2 volleys + Ros burst
they did beat a stall ver in the previous one though
they will be slowed down from 2RL because they lost Noah so Moran won't taunt Ros
manchor on stall 
but it's anchor lol
doesn't look like 2.5
that is 2.5 as long as Helm has cs
either mmanchor or rapu needs to have 15 cs alongside helm
Guys, Nero Moran team got defeated by Noah Vesti Emilia 

It was Eon 
one mo
did he win overall
Neither

SNINY STAR FRAME?
stall investments also pays a part here
not full dmg reduc
you'll be fine 
this is the match
they didn't sweep them within burst so as long as I outpace it should be fine
yeah I figured you didn't mean mine 🙂
I'm pretty sure you win team 3 though, Noah is not that tanky and they will be pushed to 3RL if she dies
that is more than enough time to kill Centi
it's a maybe lots of cores
doesn't matter
max noah 
gotta kill within 2 shots 
3 volley is enough, without 2nd Noah shot they cannot 2RL
and Centi + Helm will die to Ros B1
my sg comp isn't bad but it's not the best either
they cannot B2
surely enough 
even 4 volley is passable
my matches in full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C33jD_PT4Wg
but even then I don't think he needs t3 to win
their burst gen is exact 100% at 2RL
every shot counts
they will always be delayed if someone dies
Noah has to survive 4 volleys for them to win
you can sort of see the power of my SG comp there I guess
3 volley to kill Rapu is normal I guess, 2 volley Mana depends on their Mana invest
yeah they're ok just not that rolled in terms of overloads yet :9
Yes
we could both be double winners if I'm lucky tomorrow

Tenshi destroying lately though, I think I have a very good shot at this one
but he's a new wildcard we didn't have before
slacker 
i'm grinding for dis frame now
Sorry 
@fathom rock there he is 
3 Rouge skin buyer in a row 
I thrive off changing my defense after taking my position back and walling
Wtf is crosshair synch.?. 
Maybe you could pause if you played on a big screen tablet.
once again the underdog but there is a very real chance I can clutch this
Sync tap to cursor or something
so naturally I vote for the opponent. need my loser frame
Wth is that? 
Talk about a win win situation
yeah it's a win win but actually I kind of want to be done with the loser frame 😄
A setting that makes the crosshair move based on the location of your finger
it eats my credits each season when I get it wrong
won't it have to move pass the white and hit it though?
tap sync should be same as mouse sync
it instantly moves to that spot, no travel time
Not if you remove finger then tap at the next circle no
Huh, I would try it next SR then. 
mobile players too used to dragging finger
I spent 3hours of my life trying to snipe 3 ports with sw
they not used to tapping 
I didn't even know it was possible, not like I didn't try. 
Tomorrow is crucial
L
RNG
hahaha gl not dying before you burst
roll a dice but I believe Xmaiden is stronger in mirror
R

Then the worst thing could be L R L L R 
their Soda could stun your Vesti and Blanc too. 
he is on the right, see how he hid his name? 
Maybe, it's just that my Emilla and Vesti equipment are not bad


bro is rng blessed. 
tbh the invest is some next level, first time I see 210k Scar and 217k Emi 
Lucky
I don't even think Keripo have that level
Well, his opponent could win against him with right order ofc.

you got higher chance to win there I guess. unless LapT beat xmaid somehow. 
less cores on opponent's Nero Moran too, can get run down on 2nd rotation
cuz no more Moran dmg reduc
there goes my potential frame 
I've been using this lineup since beta3, got some advantages, and stole some champions.
Beta3 doesn't have Vesti.
xmaid beats lap stall 
not bursting Vesti anyway 
Refers to the five-team structure
who need Vesti burst with 217k Emi 
tell soda to stun blanc 
many peeps lost to Lamious today I see. 
me too
tbh with 210k Scar
there is chance Blanc can die to Scar counter

someone people are just too strong
I initially cheer lam dude with my coinflip method 
the power of a multi-time champ 
especially if that comp is 1.6RL
you will get Trina B2 Atk dmg buff before Blanc can B2
so she can kill herself on counter
just invest diff 
and Vesti too for good measures.

when you gonna have 210k Scar 
gimme like 5 years trust
a large portion of it come from research level ...and blue black lime ofc.
hmm what if that Emi is 4 Atk 4 ele and 1 tap Soda
do you believe
I don't, need at least 2-3 taps. 
Maybe lucky and crit so 2 taps.
I remember you made your Emi team with Snake. 
Good luck on your 9th champ
Originally, the position of Vesti belonged to Mihala.
Thank you and hope to win the 10th championship tomorrow
Okay, I count it wrong. It's your 10th huh? Sorry. 


I've been strengthening Vesti's equipment recently, trying different choices from others.
completely skipping all CS I see
If my math is correct, the higher the crit rate and crit damage, the better. This will be an interesting choice after 12 blue affixes.
that team don't need Vesti to gen burst anyway, and 0cs Vesti can still 4 shot before 0cs 2RL B2
yes, for that team it's good
my vesti rolls are meh and I wasted too many rocks for the meh rolls I do have lol
nowhere near enough atk in particular
@mystic rain Sorry but I have to bet on Aha being 3 time runner up. 
vote on besti 
Yes, let Emilia cooperate with Vesti to kill anyone in P1P2P3 position
Poor Aha, gonna be 3 times runner up, never champ. 
besti champ
So cool
Vesti the Kaiju. 

i couldn't win a 100% win because of emilia tvesti on top 4
i look at replay and find an exploit
Friendo 5-0
which one?
Besti was champ before she actually got meta
Now I don’t like her anymore
Yesterday 
hit with emilia at same frame as tvesti, emilia damage s2 will add tvesti true damage to her damage

look at 724637
Vesti reduced the cost of Blanc's victory against Neko. These two betas also affected me.
Originally, Blanc needed better equipment to defeat Neko, but now the threshold has been lowered.
Seasonal buff.
This game Arena doesn't have transparent seasonal buff but many hidden ones. 
i couldn't win the match because of that 
At least now we know . 
i would prefer they fix it
And add new seasonal buff ofc. 
Hows this build working for you
He is 9 times champ.
AHA > besti bro trust
I know but im interested in the development of vesti with pure atk and crit
Mast and miranda 
miranda vesti 3RL?
30% crit rate high enough, that's 1-2 crit in 4 shot on average 
with 50cdmg that's basically 5-6 shot worth of damage
I think not only 12 affixes are needed, but also an average value of tier13 or above.
I see
x4 atk crit chance and dmg
It may take 12 affixes with blue letters to see the effect clearly.
Makes sense, gonna try to recreate that build with mine
Aha has a good chance but I am obligatory betting on Besti. 
ah shit besti wins

rip aha
Waos, strong

Helen could not survive with all that damage
I already have some critm damage black and blue lines, mostly missing the atk and crit rate
3 times "grand master". 
Your emilia also with charge speed, atk and crit ?
I see, i like your emilia

In fact, the original crit rate was ele, I didn't expect a character like Vesti to appear
looks like it depends on t2

aaaaand it's a mirror 

wait LMAO
i think round 1 bay can tank scar nuke taht scar jacka is like 3RL
round 2 is 50/50
round 3 besti should win
round 4 aha wins
round 5 sg attacker vs moran nero and no water on sg? moran nero should live thru that
aha might win actually
that's a fair assumption
if besti t1 fails to nuke sgs fast enough and/or if bay isn't stunned I can see aha winning
They really surprised us
Remember the feed sg gives before rosanna dispell the link
And also cs is a thing
its def sg vs 3RL scar jackal
Never assume a scar team is 3 RL, usually they always 2.5
well with feed it should be 2rl before rosa dispel
Bay aren't blocking anything ofc ... And all his SG would die to counter in 1rl because research diff. Scarlet got killed by Rossanna but XMaiden burst and clear house b
theyll hit jackal and dispel and scar would be too slow to even burst
Did you assume cs in trina, jackal and x maiden?
well idk their cs
Just assume 17
The first one is a normal 100% win match up because XMaiden. 
At this point everyone in top CA has cs in their RL

it's not out of the realms of possibility
granted it was manchor vs bay
fat Anchor heal
You probably had more investment. Here Besti has 60 research level overall to Aha. He isn't make it. 
that's not me 
but the team that lost is much more invested vs who won if it means anything
investment + research level wise
granted I do think besti wins t1 but I can also see why it would fail
That Drake p5 also clocked it in. If it was p1-2 like other people normally do it would lose
I trust besti investment, team gonna reach 2 rl before rosanna dispell
Cuz im sure my friendo uas cs in jackal, trina and x maiden
With 60 research level diff, his 3 SG could kill Nero before More burst even .
u think its gonna be fast enough even with cs?
Of course
And Aha has a bricked Scarlet with only 27 ammo, even if he isn't stunned, high chance he wouldn't kill anything.
He lost Champ against me the first time because his Scarlet couldn't kill my LapT. 2nd time because his Scarlet couldn't kill my HelmT.
Both times his Soda stunned my Noah/Bay and supposed to win.
did he not put wingman on his scar 
ok even if besti wins t1 its still 2 wins
scar not killing helm in what i assume is a stall team is wild ngl 
besti would also need to win t2 which is mirror
okay poof for realsies
He has more research level than me so it's investment issues. No excuse.b
Besti wins 1, 3 and 4 . Leaving T2 and T5 to RNGsus
Like how i won against a 535 whale with all units C7


if aha loses to t4 with soda stunning noise and noah, alongside with him not getting siren stunned
that's on him on that point
oh there's no trust
it's 100% gonna happen LOL for noise and noah
soda is in p2
I don't see how aha loses t4 unless his scar really is that bad
we don't talk about bar scars here 
Hime am I locked in yet? 
are you? 
Guess he could win. 
I mean, even if his Scarlet couldn't kill with normal dmg, he could Crit or counter.
But there are still other match for Besti to win.
Oh, so that's how @coarse lake lost
? that's unrelated
It was Noise+Miranda+Emi+Noah+HelmT. 
L?LRR
bet on mirror match
gl
Mirror ofc the one with more investment band research level win, I mean, Besti. 
Maybe Besti SG could kill Nero before Moran even burst. 
5.6bil on the whale(under 1% for now), hmm, good enough, 2 teams need more oompf. Putting what i learned here to good use 😄
5.6b should be enud for 10% on global I guess. 
Yeah, prettier frame atleast! See how much folks like to do this time around. The general feel is that folks no likey 😄
Would be easier if Besti was defender yeah. 
But your Nero Moran team lost 
a proper vesti in a stall comp beats nero moran every day



it's a good day for vestiTU enjoyers, a bad day for nero/moran invest0rs
although rejoice, vestiTU powercreeps a lot of archetypes altogether anyway 
sorry brotha 
live by the mihara, die by the mihara 
no regrets. forward 💪 🫡

Rail is 2rl double buff scar an effective defense team in rookie
I think its too easy cuz it gets beat by anything
yea im thiking of dropping 2RL scar trina as well
maybe try scar blanc trina instead
but trina's buff actually messes up with scar hp and doesnt indom her from my testing
i would too if i had the resources to build soda so she can catch up in cp
What do you think the best rookie arena team I can make with this roster is? Was just using my campain team, but its time to make an actual arena team lol.
assemble these 2 and show total CP
we'll pick the one that has better CP
(should be the 2nd)
I don't think there was a bug, I think that 724k is just unmitigated damage, its actually the full damage of Besti while Scarlet and Soda one 470kish is 2/3 mitigated coz of Jackal 🤔
it's a glass cannon, any non monkey with a noah should be able to deal with it
rookie fundamentally is meaningless, just run anything you want
if for w/e reason you want a chance to get a def win, run gimmick teams
(sacc, stun, indom, stall)
no
look at the numbers
you can also try it in the shooting range
shared damage is 462518 @worthy knoll
so *3
<@&946725432554836008>
Its x3 divided by 2, Scarlet and Soda is linked

If only Scar is linked then yeah x3
P1 rapu, b2 blanc, b3 privaty
7 + 7 = 14
14 / 3 = 4.66
Whatever that 462,618 to Soda and Scarlet which is 2/3 of the full damage they received coz Jackal is not hit, is the same source of 724,637 full damage to Trina. What I don't know is that 482,436 part received from Trina, but with how laggy the vid is I can't see the exact numbers in between, but I think there is some 200 somethingkish damage there behind
it's from tvesti
you can see it when the camera view changes at the end
482 = tvesti hit
724 = emilia hit + tvesti
So you mean that 462618 damage to Scar and Soda are also an anomaly?
yes
it's the emilia damage
same as trina
scarlet and soda are also hit and they are linked
Oh I guess we were mentioning diff things..
Yeah what I was saying that 462618 of Scar Soda is that 724k of Trina, the damage is just low and not same from the 2 coz they are linked, hence Trina will receive more or less 462618*3/2 damage hence why it is 724k.. but if Soda Scar damage is an anomaly too then Trina damage numbers is also an anomaly. I thought your message above just says it only on Trina that is weird
it's the same hit, so same issue
Even zero buff? 
I have had Vesti+Emi one shot full HP HelmT before. I thought it was Jackal problem. But now I calculated my CS at that time it was in line with Ba7tial mentioned of the bug. I couldn't do that now with the same team because my Vesti got more CS.
game is probably doing something where the damage received in the same frame is grouped, and then the modifiers are somehow stacking?
Thank you for the reply!
I actually just lucksacced my 5th mlb nikke, so im about to do some major roster adjusting. Not really worried about current CP, as none of my arena guys are properly built. Just want to know what the best possible team would be so that I can start building them
something like that with emilia s2 yes but i only could reproduce it on shooting range with tvesti so i think it's about true damage
Is this the bugged part? Emilia hitting 215kish on her first projectile suddenly becomes 482kish without any kind of buff and debuff happening?
I don't think it had 100% chance of happening though. Only happened to me twice when my CS was at that range.
Oh so that 462kish on Scar Soda is also from Emi?
it's even more weird
yes
no way you can kill scarlet linked with only tvesti and emilia
Yeah I guess. My case it was Vesti+Emi one shot P3 helmT from full HP on Vesti first and Emi 2bd shots.
But if it happened 100% I wouldn't have lost the match against SG during CA.
Since I would have killed their p1-2-3 and won.
ye it's the 2nd team, run that for now
wishlist scarlet, rumani, jackal, biscuit, noise, rapunzel cinderella, sbs, rrh
might be worth adding more of this type of evidence to the issue you have open as well, less stuff going on
so it's more obvious where the issue lies
ok done
what does vesti hit for if she's alone?
in the same shot count
vesti alone + emilia alone + both together
This is my case from 2-3 weeks ago.
does anyone else buff true damage?
the issue is only if they hit at the same time
yeah I just mean for the screenshots, we'd have all 3 versions
Their CS was in range. And the guy was higher synch, higher core than me. No way I one shot HelmT normally. 
just be keripo invest

Maybe Keripo CS was also in synch because no way he could do that unless CP gap. No amount of research gap could do this

The bug doesn't trigger although this was taken the same day.
That's why I thought it was Jackal specific bug.
Bug trigger here and wipe them all. The other of the 2 times this bug happened when I tested the team.
Maybe I changed cube in this case and the CS changed or it's not 100% trigger chance, Idk. 
Guess I would need to fix my Charge speed for more test
can see on work if it aligns and maybe adjutant on emi or vesti to align/unalign it

that doesn't look intended if anything, i'll have some spaghetti code with bug salsa
🍝
Good excuse for me to roll CS on Emi. 
with what rocks!?
we're rock killed
when do we get more locks? 🔒
and more correctly, how many do we get? 🙁
I can't roll my vesti line 1 without locks
perm locking mid rolls feels bad
Perma lock if you don't want to reroll line 2+3 ever anymore

man it couldn't come any faster
lots of animu from summer season wrapped up so i can binge watch to hell
might start dandadan s2 tonight
I don't have more rocks 🙁
lol i add tvesti too because without emilia, she did less damage, crazy
so good point to try this
there is nothing in their kit that should buff the other right?
only things about true damage
maybe tvesti was about crit
hmm, no difference seems too low
but nothing in emi kit says it buffs true damage from vesti that I can see
A cat is fine too

ho you know i can't explain it too
but i think it's about how s2 works
my bracket too new for emi I can't test anything
someone else with both could do the same test
What has he done...
he'll be the one laughing when nihilister gets a treasure
Uog
@lusty gull I think its better if you can record and replicate it in rookie with just Vesti and Emilia and no other units, that way the numbers will be easier to see, just find someone not in CP gap, or maybe even with low penalty on your side, as your Vesti and Emi CP combined
should be easier in rookie atm thanks to new season
Something like this, though I can't replicate it coz my Vesti is so quick 
i will try to replicate it but i don't know if they hit at the same time on pvp lol
position may matter
seen in nikke.work that p3-p5 seems to have same speed to p1 opponent
and p1/p2 are a couple of frames behind vs 3-5
I already made Emilia at P5 with CS cube and P1 Vesti without, still not enough to match 2nd Emilia hit and Vesti first hit 
can put actual stats in here see if they align
Is Vesti data though really accurate to the T?
A man of pure grit and determination. 
I mean even their SBS data is wrong iirc
haven't counted the frames as such
Hola guys!
Can someone help me and potentially tell me which side will lose? I'm so close to getting that silver border for losses. 
i'm winning this 
You want pro expert cool awesome analysis?
I gotchu
Which side is defense
Left side wins if right is defending 
right is defending
Right side loses
that's why I said I'm winning it
Right side def

only 15% of people believe in me but I think I got this
Congrats on the win hippo
I vote for the opponent for loser frame 
I win 2/5 certainly. I should win 4. 1/3 could win if stars align right
Did the same but wanted to be sure since it's my last fight to get the frame
yeah, did you have any votes in other matches I was in ? 😄
the moran one was the hardest one for me to guess but I just backed myself in the end lol
he has obtained the ultimate 🧱
tenshi was a fairly safe bet in general but I think I got em
wonder if Rail agrees that I may win? 
@tropic summit pls check I'm left someone else kindly put the teams in a thing#pvp-arena message
I'm more certain I win than not, so if we lose we both lose this together lol 
4-1 or 5-0 for you
5-0 sweep of tenshi would be glorious, I'm not counting on that ofc
yeah that's my teams and tenshi ones
their shotties into your biscuit locked, their scarlet into your noah, their 2.5RL vestiTU into natural 2RL no feed and their cope SBS 3RL into 2.5RL nero moran... this guy won lottery in reverse
True, now losing feels less painful. If we're both gonna share the same fate
i'm not changing my vote so yeah we live or die together 😄
it's the old rng arena at play 
i'm not 100% on team 1 as their vesti could kill my scar if they time/built well, but I'm confident enough in the others anyway
that's a possibility i guess
Sorry about that
Can you give me ss about their match?
vestiTU is a very stupid unit for that kind of thing
could turn it around pre burst alright
i can't reproduce @worthy knoll too much cs diff
I want to know which team he lost
yeah, will see though, if my scar bursts she has 40% atk and some crit and stuff now so she's pretty deadly if she pops off
expecting more of a 4-1 or 3-2 maybe
Can't remember but wasn't this one of the old "God Comp" variants in the past?
it's missing noise in it though
more of an indom variant than god comp
Ahh ok that was the missing piece
It was an annoying one
I remember one of the treasures was similar to Noise right
Ok it was Frima and not really enough
literally "annoying" 
i miss the words god comp
I don't remember how strong it was but kinda thinking of running it for CA
I dont think its strong in today's pvp
Same here, if we could find someone who can do it, that would be better proof for the bug 
Haven't had a problem with them in ages
Yes
My own comp did it, and had it happen to me, vesti still needs high invest
ho i'm sure the exploit is real, it's enough for me
Any idea the cs on each needed for vesti emi bug
zero buff means no Euhwa, Emma. 
The enemy needs to be around your research range and their Nero team actually having investment too.
HelmT is also a buff
something like 11 vesti 16 emilia so a 5% diff maybe

My Nero team is one of the highest in bracket and it wasn't even close 
Enemy vesti wasn't even that strong, my helm lived to burst
Hmm actually Nero has more of a chance maybe if Helmt dies, xmaiden might kill before she dies
R
RNG
L
RNG
Wtf? L.
I would vote left.
There is a Vesti Emi bug going on here. If it triggered, unless Soda stun Vesti and prevent it from trigger, having Jackal or not everything die.
Who wins this?
My Vesti has 8 CS and Emilia 13
But yeah, L should win. 
hmm, maybe you can try it on rookie or sp then
ay ay seasonal bug

crazy

Noah biscuit Rumani Vesti Emilia right? 
Seasonal buff*
anything you want, only need tvesti and emilia
avoid enemy biscuit if possible
What you think
hard to see but looks like you are close
can you equip cs cube to emilia ? i think she need little more cs
versus same opponent @keen vapor
Wake up status why that name sound fimiliar....
Same name as miranda buff? 
Retain the same cubes. Remove the other units, find someone same CP or close with your Emi and Vesti combined. Play around Vesti position, try P3 Vesti then P2 Vesti
come on now emilia is like 1 frame too fast
I think Emilia was one frame slow though 🤔
you can see fire and ice effect are not on the same frame
Then Emi on P1 then Vesti on P5
on first replay, looks like tvesti hit something like 1 frame faster second is emilia
it's hard to see 
Emilia Noah jackal Rapunzel Vesti? 
My Nero is 10/10/10 SR15 and she still dies so quickly, at least she survives long enough to trigger FB but still what do I lack?
I thought Vesti was quicker coz projectile was still travelling while Vesti showing hit animation already
well there goes the god comp 
I just said no other unit aside from those 2 
Just find someone on rookie that is near the CP of your Vesti and Emi combine
HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO MANIPULATE POSITIONS THEN 
You can
Game will automatically put them together
In battle
That's what it did last time we tried to not run a P2 unit

Is your moran also 101010 sr15 
she's 10/10/10
But sr5 
Also OL might sucks, I don't have a lot of DEF stats
how does it perform against Vesti btw?
Not looking good CP wise
the real first counter?
Bad
Vesti breaks 90% of def in the game good sir
There should be someone on rookie that matches your CP there
Refresh till you find one 
I mean even I found one after refreshing a bunch
Honestly I mainly built it for SP at first then champion as a bonus, guess I'm cooked 
Make it high quality please 
but that quality 
Maybe if I upload it to YouTube? 
thanks @keen vapor 
I don't understand wut happen
Please do, it will also be able to be played frame by frame
What's wrong with the quality that's my usual
Too much damage
How you peeps even find this 
bas7ial had a match they should have won but vesti + emi did a silly amount of damage
Call it coincidence 
New seasonal buff 
One extra rock today.
Do you still have tries
Blood what on earth does
mean to you

Ok hear me out
I have 9 tokens and 2 free ones
I made a vesti proof team
No
Can you try it again same one, but show damage log. Then another vid with against same opponent but P4 Vesti P5 Emi and show damage log again
Why and how is this vesti proof
See? This is what I was talking about, game doesn't let's you do this
It doesnt?
Vesti cant kill anyone before burst
Blanc vestiTU biscuit rapu centi counters this or cuz it 4 units just deficit it 
Nah, CA team
I fixed
@hollow lagoon is this what you are farming? 
Does not work on SP and CA, only on rookie atk. Does not also work for rookie def
That doesn't change my plan if I find that 
Vesti can only hit 2 units and they lock with biscuit
Try
If this level of power works against your bracket, run double sac rosa or something 
Will post video link at #1418279002812059831 when it's up 
I cant run that, team power would be like 200k
Maybe 250 if im lucky
Biscuit, noah, helm are invested, rumani isnt
Doesn't
But even then my Emilia needed Adjutant and special positioning
It really depends
No I have that I’m working on the next
@shell hazel cheered for you again, haven't checked the teams but gl vs Tenshi
thanks! 
My Vesti has 20% and Emilia is 15%, tried Aduj on Emilia and didn't seem to work either way for me. Vesti too fast probably
it's already over. my wife pepper infiltrated his indom sbs team and has agreed to throw the round
Siren gonna do the thing, trust











