#pvp-arena

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hollow lagoon
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my level 8 destruction cube do be goat

fathom rock
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Just pull dupe and run healerless on a real cube tbh clueless

wicked horizon
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@wind kelp
Viola quit the game too?

hollow lagoon
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idk but that combat power looks like 32-32 to me

shell hazel
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some people slack tbh

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I'm further along with 700K than they are 🙂

fathom rock
hollow lagoon
fathom rock
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Ch34 boss is 34-38

hollow lagoon
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oh shit im on 34-37

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KEKW for gets my own stage

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32-32 stuck trauma

fathom rock
swift mango
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My 101010 Trina and 101010 scarlet can't break. hmmz

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How did you?hmmz

hollow lagoon
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first of all i run low ammo scarlet

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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and second of all i have only 2 attack lines

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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if u have mroe attack lines you might not break

swift mango
swift mango
hollow lagoon
swift mango
fathom rock
swift mango
hollow lagoon
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hard to aim core on mobile

hollow lagoon
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i tried cinderella and raven, turns out raven cant break shit

swift mango
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That's why I'm goldenbrick main. I can probably 11b+ with my investment if on PC.ZizBorgar

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But still nowhere 3% in SEA anyways

hollow lagoon
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@fathom rock

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does my distributed dmg team trigger u

swift mango
swift mango
hollow lagoon
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tbh i dont have much of blue and black lines so always assume regular ass lines

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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which is one of my best rollec characters

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since she has no empty lines

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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i dont mind hit rate

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she's inaccurate af

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my rapi

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which also has no empty lines

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hopefully one day i can roll that crit dmg into a atk or crit rate

shell hazel
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zanta how we feeling about the power of friendship today?

hollow lagoon
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couldent vote for u cuz game wont let me

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but ill send

shell hazel
swift mango
shell hazel
swift mango
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5/12 being uselesshmmz

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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cp pad confirmed thumbsup

hollow lagoon
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i pad

shell hazel
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apple iPad?

hollow lagoon
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nah

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one of the reasons i didnt take off that last def roll is cuz indivilia some times leaves rapi with like literal sliver of hp

shell hazel
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the def cope is real

hollow lagoon
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it is what it is

hollow lagoon
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its line3 and i dont wanna go through it

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as long as i maintain 3% i'm kinda of

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just indifferent ish?

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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good for pvp

hollow lagoon
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wish i can slap def rolls on crown

covert lintel
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How was SW? Can she become top dps this time?pepehmmm

shell hazel
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prob need miranda somewhat for her

hollow lagoon
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i should have invested eve/sw

swift mango
shell hazel
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I need more resources pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
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instead i invested raven who edges mihara by insignificant amount

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granted raven can go higher but i wont beable to get ther before raid end

covert lintel
swift mango
hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel will prob coipum use rosana b1

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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i kinda wanna test absolute trio

covert lintel
swift mango
random field
swift mango
covert lintel
random field
swift mango
random field
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so jackal, sbs, blanc, siren, then i can't think of who to go in the last slot

covert lintel
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Quickly build her first
She is the most meta of all nikke, can pvp and pve

random field
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don't have the dupes to get helm treasure yet painSnap

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is there someone i can use instead of thelm in the mean time?

covert lintel
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Anis SR

drowsy bridge
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Good morning everyone. Who do you think will win this matchup? I’m thinking Tex because puppet has non buffed scarlet and tez is on defense.

hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel it works

shell hazel
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I lack 1/2 from that list :S

hollow lagoon
swift mango
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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some if it but no milk 😛

shell hazel
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scar/trina/cindy etc probably my move to make, need an iron dps or works without any?

hollow lagoon
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absolute is oddly a good setO.oo.o.o>O>O>o

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actually scarlet trina level with laplace

shell hazel
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this the best idea or should I mix up this one?

hollow lagoon
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why anchor burst first tho

shell hazel
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I can swap em was just on auto burst

hollow lagoon
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liter buff gets mega diluted by sbs's own buff

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idk why u wont just slot dorothy

shell hazel
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I can

hollow lagoon
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dorothy's part damage up actually lets sbs clear parts

placid bloom
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You want iron for QTE unless you want to lose dps from sitting there on 3 elec shields

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If no BMilk you have to Liter

hollow lagoon
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i slotted b milk for that team

shell hazel
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yeah I don't have her

hollow lagoon
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was literal cruise tier with the amount of distributed dmg procs between sbs dorothy and bmilk

shell hazel
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liter it is

hollow lagoon
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then u do actually need to run liter

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but why tho

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aren u crown mast tech?

placid bloom
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no way PvP player can Crown MMast team lol, your other 3 team other than SG gonna be ass

swift mango
placid bloom
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PvP player never gonna be able to build SW or SRos team and elec team is not real

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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Don’t bother invest Raven if you haven’t

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Absolute trio works surprisingly well

placid bloom
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Raven definitely bait TimiProud

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that team not possible to play without high invest

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can't kill core, can't kill mobs

hollow lagoon
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I’m weirded out now, maybe I should invest more into absolute

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Damage is similar to scarlet Trina anis electric teamKEKW

shell hazel
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hmm can't kill core with scar team :9

hollow lagoon
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I do have damage loss replacing Laplace with Alice on redhood team

shell hazel
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what did you run zant?

placid bloom
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Scar Trina should be able to kill core

shell hazel
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it's not working atm need to adjust something

placid bloom
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it will take 2 burst though

hollow lagoon
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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cindy burst first?

placid bloom
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well you also have Liter + Anis

hollow lagoon
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Ye

placid bloom
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mine scuffed

hollow lagoon
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U kinda need liter in there

placid bloom
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nah I didn't run Scar Trina with elec, I used them on team 5

hollow lagoon
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And anis is necessary for low ammo scarlet

placid bloom
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cuz my team 5 can't survive without healer

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and Trina was my 5th healer wahahaha

wind kelp
hollow lagoon
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I feel like I have excess of 7/7/7 teams now I need to upgrade skil levels

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Raven shows me randomly derping out a ele compatible didn’t help

wind kelp
shell hazel
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oh lmao forgot to do xmaiden burst but yeah not amazing damage all the same

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my s.anis not at all built though I could throw her in, iron QTE sucks though

wicked horizon
shell hazel
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alright we're going blood ver

swift mango
wind kelp
shell hazel
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my LapT might be atk bricked though 🙁

swift mango
placid bloom
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I just used RH Grave with Cinderella

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too lazy

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this SR already need enough mald

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
placid bloom
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pull BAde clueless

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just use RH lol

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no point malding elec team, it's not even good on this SR

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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let's be real here for a sec though even if I pull milk or bade I don't have any resources to give them anything

hollow lagoon
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Maiden just buff attack of electric units/ Shelm/Eve gib damage taken, same difference but u get to pop electric qte

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Maiden’s elements damage boost is irrelevant

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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I see scarlet butt tho

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Which is a win

hollow lagoon
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Might need to turn off aim assist

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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On pc u can basically use anything

fathom rock
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Hey if you 3% it a 3%

fathom rock
hollow lagoon
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The teams are mechanically sound idk what ur talking about

hollow lagoon
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Felt easier than the other raids to reach this number

placid bloom
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yeah but people getting fisted by the mechanics

hollow lagoon
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Idk this raid seems easier than ziz

placid bloom
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I did better than on Ziz too

hollow lagoon
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I struggled to get 11 b on ziz

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This raid I just did a bit of home brew and out comes 11.4, on retry 11.6

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Might hit 12b if I didn’t spend all that resource on Raven

placid bloom
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but people either struggling or they waiting to copy teams or something

swift mango
placid bloom
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cuz my rank dropping way slower than on Ziz

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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Or maybe people don’t have level 7 destruction cube KEKW

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When will they see the light

placid bloom
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nah even for Ziz day 1 I was already knocked out of top 200 around this time of day on day 1 of challenge

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this time I'm still 13x

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so they not running or I surpassed them clueless

hollow lagoon
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Im just suprised at the team options I have at my disposal now

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Tried a good number of different comps and my damage is more less similar

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Which tells me I should raise skill levels

placid bloom
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you could also just pick an element to master pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
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I’m not racist

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I think my iron is strongest

tropic summit
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slightly above 7mil but 2 teams need optimizing, i can probably push a tad higher

full dew
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be a elementalist then

tropic summit
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raven't

quick lake
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Rare gatrix appearance Doro

tropic summit
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sometimes he comes down to meet the mortals

full dew
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I just heard my boy Alice stepped down echvotri

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oh no free money

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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bunny milk is adorable

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
tropic summit
swift mango
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I got top 155 @fathom rock poggies

swift mango
keen vapor
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No way, fire team

swift mango
keen vapor
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Too much fire

tropic summit
swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
swift mango
keen vapor
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Partially Andy with some spins of myself :frog sip:

placid bloom
placid bloom
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always cook yourself

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because only you know your own invest level

strong hull
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Tbh im just doing some comp testing tho

swift mango
placid bloom
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other people cook they assume you have actual invested units

strong hull
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Havent release a book yet

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But you can try if you want

placid bloom
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then you run and you realize their comp unplayable with your invest

strong hull
placid bloom
shell hazel
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@brazen ledge please enjoy your credits 😄

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the thing I was scared of, the tenshi showdown

shell hazel
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@hollow lagoon @nimble swan @cunning crown @umbral belfry the power of friendship arc continues

keen vapor
keen vapor
umbral belfry
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if you win does this also make me a 2 time champ too hippo

placid bloom
umbral belfry
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that's what i got hippo for cellSmart

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I'll get it in spirit

shell hazel
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I really hope so lol

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but let me put their teams in deck a min

short moon
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@worthy sorrel noooooo cupppppp

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😭

umbral belfry
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rip piesSadge

placid bloom
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wym, phoric is also pie susge

nimble swan
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Now all you have to do is just beating Tenshi LiterSmug

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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I didn't check rankings

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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OK next matches, I haven't accounted for much in the way of CS on their side so they could have more speed than I show.
I'm attacking here (boo lol)
t1 - I should win this, just need my scarlet to knock em dead
t2 - I win this I think as well they're hitting biscuit wall with sg's
t3 - I doubt I can prevent cindy bursting so it's a loss
t4 - stall vs sbs indom trades fairly well I think? could win this
t5 - I win this one surely

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I think 2/5 are wins for sure, 1 or 4 should also be a win on one of them

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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Trina can die too

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it's 2 iron + Vesti

shell hazel
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that is true

umbral belfry
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yeah many things can go wrong

shell hazel
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but I think 2 and 5 are wins, if I lose 1 I should still win 4?

umbral belfry
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rh b2 poggies

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t5 is instant w yes

placid bloom
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stall should be favored into SBS Blanc

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their Biscuit proc split between Rumani and Blanc too

umbral belfry
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I think hippo wins poggies

cunning crown
umbral belfry
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2 4 5

shell hazel
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I need to survive the SBS basically

umbral belfry
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hippo if you somehow lose stall v sbs Sus

shell hazel
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blanc does counter moran somewhat though right

placid bloom
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I do think 2.5RL Helm into 3RL Blanc is kinda close sniping wise, Helm burst has delay

umbral belfry
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she does but helm will outdeal sbs dmg

placid bloom
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cuz I've tried it a few times in SPA and I can't snipe in time sometimes

shell hazel
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yeah my helm still not quite got the cs rolls I want either

umbral belfry
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at best, from experience, only nero and lap dies

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but if pepper was rh instead hmmz

placid bloom
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it's single buff

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not really gonna happen

umbral belfry
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yeah stall wins that

placid bloom
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t3 you can actually just kill Noah + Centi before they can B2

umbral belfry
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believe hippo cocoathumb

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this was a 187k cp sbs

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but yes overall i say hippo wins

placid bloom
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Noah dies in 3 volleys max, Centi dies to 2 volleys + Ros burst

shell hazel
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they did beat a stall ver in the previous one though

placid bloom
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they will be slowed down from 2RL because they lost Noah so Moran won't taunt Ros

umbral belfry
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manchor on stall poggies

shell hazel
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but it's anchor lol

umbral belfry
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doesn't look like 2.5

placid bloom
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that is 2.5 as long as Helm has cs

umbral belfry
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either mmanchor or rapu needs to have 15 cs alongside helm

keen vapor
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Guys, Nero Moran team got defeated by Noah Vesti Emilia sadge

umbral belfry
keen vapor
shell hazel
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one mo

umbral belfry
keen vapor
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Neither

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
shell hazel
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i'm uploading that match I showed the stats for above

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the stall that lost

placid bloom
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not full dmg reduc

umbral belfry
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weak hmmz

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not yours weak, theirs

shell hazel
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I have temp on all except helm (adjutant)

umbral belfry
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you'll be fine cocoathumb

shell hazel
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this is the match

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they didn't sweep them within burst so as long as I outpace it should be fine

shell hazel
placid bloom
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I'm pretty sure you win team 3 though, Noah is not that tanky and they will be pushed to 3RL if she dies

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that is more than enough time to kill Centi

shell hazel
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it's a maybe lots of cores

placid bloom
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doesn't matter

umbral belfry
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max noah poggies

placid bloom
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unless your Drake is potato

umbral belfry
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gotta kill within 2 shots Sus

placid bloom
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3 volley is enough, without 2nd Noah shot they cannot 2RL

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and Centi + Helm will die to Ros B1

shell hazel
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my sg comp isn't bad but it's not the best either

placid bloom
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they cannot B2

umbral belfry
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surely enough Prayge

placid bloom
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even 4 volley is passable

umbral belfry
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but even then I don't think he needs t3 to win

placid bloom
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their burst gen is exact 100% at 2RL

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every shot counts

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they will always be delayed if someone dies

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Noah has to survive 4 volleys for them to win

shell hazel
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you can sort of see the power of my SG comp there I guess

placid bloom
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3 volley to kill Rapu is normal I guess, 2 volley Mana depends on their Mana invest

shell hazel
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yeah they're ok just not that rolled in terms of overloads yet :9

fathom rock
shell hazel
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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Tenshi destroying lately though, I think I have a very good shot at this one

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but he's a new wildcard we didn't have before

hollow lagoon
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i'm grinding for dis frame now

keen vapor
tropic summit
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@fathom rock there he is poggies

placid bloom
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3 Rouge skin buyer in a row pepehmmm

unique mountain
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Sissel clutched up

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@quasi sluice gimme back my 6 cred boxes NeonPoint

quartz rover
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I thrive off changing my defense after taking my position back and walling

swift mango
shell hazel
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once again the underdog but there is a very real chance I can clutch this

fathom rock
shell hazel
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so naturally I vote for the opponent. need my loser frame

swift mango
fathom rock
shell hazel
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yeah it's a win win but actually I kind of want to be done with the loser frame 😄

fathom rock
shell hazel
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it eats my credits each season when I get it wrong

swift mango
placid bloom
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tap sync should be same as mouse sync

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it instantly moves to that spot, no travel time

fathom rock
swift mango
placid bloom
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mobile players too used to dragging finger

fathom rock
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I spent 3hours of my life trying to snipe 3 ports with sw

placid bloom
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they not used to tapping TimiProud

terse dragon
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Tomorrow is crucialdoroPray

swift mango
terse dragon
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Then the worst thing could be L R L L R NovelThink

swift mango
placid bloom
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opponent don't have Soda pepehmmm

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that's RH Trina Scar

swift mango
placid bloom
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no he is on left

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he has 8 CA win or something, look at star on his frame

terse dragon
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Maybe, it's just that my Emilla and Vesti equipment are not bad

placid bloom
terse dragon
swift mango
placid bloom
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tbh the invest is some next level, first time I see 210k Scar and 217k Emi pepehmmm

terse dragon
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doroThumb Lucky

placid bloom
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I don't even think Keripo have that level

swift mango
jolly maple
swift mango
placid bloom
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less cores on opponent's Nero Moran too, can get run down on 2nd rotation

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cuz no more Moran dmg reduc

jolly maple
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there goes my potential frame sadge

terse dragon
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I've been using this lineup since beta3, got some advantages, and stole some champions.

umbral belfry
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xmaid beats lap stall LaplaceBurst2

placid bloom
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not bursting Vesti anyway TimiProud

terse dragon
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Refers to the five-team structure

placid bloom
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who need Vesti burst with 217k Emi clueless

umbral belfry
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tell soda to stun blanc CrownHUH

swift mango
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me too

placid bloom
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tbh with 210k Scar

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there is chance Blanc can die to Scar counter

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someone people are just too strong

jolly maple
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I initially cheer lam dude with my coinflip method trolldespair

umbral belfry
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the power of a multi-time champ NovelNoted

placid bloom
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especially if that comp is 1.6RL

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you will get Trina B2 Atk dmg buff before Blanc can B2

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so she can kill herself on counter

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just invest diff clueless

swift mango
umbral belfry
placid bloom
umbral belfry
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gimme like 5 years trust

swift mango
placid bloom
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hmm what if that Emi is 4 Atk 4 ele and 1 tap Soda pepehmmm do you believe

swift mango
swift mango
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Good luck on your 9th champ

terse dragon
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Originally, the position of Vesti belonged to Mihala.

terse dragon
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doroPray Thank you and hope to win the 10th championship tomorrow

swift mango
terse dragon
unique mountain
terse dragon
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I've been strengthening Vesti's equipment recently, trying different choices from others.

shell hazel
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you've won too much pepehmmm

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you getting rid of all ele?

placid bloom
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impressti investi clueless

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who need ele or cs or ammo, only Atk and crit

shell hazel
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completely skipping all CS I see

terse dragon
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If my math is correct, the higher the crit rate and crit damage, the better. This will be an interesting choice after 12 blue affixes.

placid bloom
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that team don't need Vesti to gen burst anyway, and 0cs Vesti can still 4 shot before 0cs 2RL B2

shell hazel
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yes, for that team it's good

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my vesti rolls are meh and I wasted too many rocks for the meh rolls I do have lol

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nowhere near enough atk in particular

swift mango
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@mystic rain Sorry but I have to bet on Aha being 3 time runner up. CrownHUH

shell hazel
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vote on besti pepehmmm

terse dragon
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Yes, let Emilia cooperate with Vesti to kill anyone in P1P2P3 position

swift mango
swift mango
shell hazel
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besti champ

terse dragon
swift mango
terse dragon
lusty gull
umbral crown
brazen ledge
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Now I don’t like her anymore

swift mango
lusty gull
# shell hazel which one?

hit with emilia at same frame as tvesti, emilia damage s2 will add tvesti true damage to her damage

shell hazel
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spaghetti code strikes again

lusty gull
lusty gull
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look at 724637

terse dragon
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Vesti reduced the cost of Blanc's victory against Neko. These two betas also affected me.

lusty gull
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it's emilia s2 + tvesti s2 damage

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you can try it at shooting range

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it also works

terse dragon
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Originally, Blanc needed better equipment to defeat Neko, but now the threshold has been lowered.

swift mango
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This game Arena doesn't have transparent seasonal buff but many hidden ones. pain

lusty gull
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i couldn't win the match because of that Doro

swift mango
lusty gull
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i would prefer they fix it

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
umbral crown
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I know but im interested in the development of vesti with pure atk and crit

mystic rain
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crit would only work if we had crit buffers for pvp

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like mast CrownHUH

umbral crown
mystic rain
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miranda vesti 3RL?

placid bloom
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30% crit rate high enough, that's 1-2 crit in 4 shot on average clueless

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with 50cdmg that's basically 5-6 shot worth of damage

terse dragon
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I think not only 12 affixes are needed, but also an average value of tier13 or above.

umbral crown
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I see

mystic rain
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x4 atk crit chance and dmg

terse dragon
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It may take 12 affixes with blue letters to see the effect clearly.

umbral crown
swift mango
terse dragon
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The opponent is +6 Helen

umbral crown
mystic rain
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rip aha

umbral crown
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Waos, strong

swift mango
umbral crown
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Helen could not survive with all that damage

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I already have some critm damage black and blue lines, mostly missing the atk and crit rate

swift mango
umbral crown
terse dragon
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I will change the critical rate to ele in the future

umbral crown
terse dragon
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In fact, the original crit rate was ele, I didn't expect a character like Vesti to appear

umbral belfry
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looks like it depends on t2

terse dragon
umbral belfry
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aaaaand it's a mirror CrownHUH

swift mango
mystic rain
# swift mango <a:Dorocopter:1353730980967485460>

wait LMAO
i think round 1 bay can tank scar nuke taht scar jacka is like 3RL
round 2 is 50/50
round 3 besti should win
round 4 aha wins
round 5 sg attacker vs moran nero and no water on sg? moran nero should live thru that

umbral belfry
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besti 1 3 aha 4 5 likely

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ngl I'm not sure CrownHUH

mystic rain
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aha might win actually

umbral belfry
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that's a fair assumption

mystic rain
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lmao i got bamboozled by those weird ass comps

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R?LRR

umbral belfry
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if besti t1 fails to nuke sgs fast enough and/or if bay isn't stunned I can see aha winning

umbral crown
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And also cs is a thing

mystic rain
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its def sg vs 3RL scar jackal

umbral crown
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Never assume a scar team is 3 RL, usually they always 2.5

umbral belfry
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well with feed it should be 2rl before rosa dispel

swift mango
mystic rain
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theyll hit jackal and dispel and scar would be too slow to even burst

umbral belfry
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but that rosa is gonna pop off

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so it will depend on xmaid likely

umbral crown
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Did you assume cs in trina, jackal and x maiden?

mystic rain
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well idk their cs

umbral crown
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Just assume 17

swift mango
umbral crown
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At this point everyone in top CA has cs in their RL

umbral belfry
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it's not out of the realms of possibility

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granted it was manchor vs bay

placid bloom
#

fat Anchor heal

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

that's not me NoahCry

umbral belfry
#

but the team that lost is much more invested vs who won if it means anything

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investment + research level wise

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granted I do think besti wins t1 but I can also see why it would fail

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

but I will say if besti does in fact lose t1 it's likely gg CrownHUH

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but I hope he wins doropray

umbral crown
#

I trust besti investment, team gonna reach 2 rl before rosanna dispell

umbral belfry
#

believe

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okie i go get ready for work chiikawarun

umbral crown
#

Cuz im sure my friendo uas cs in jackal, trina and x maiden

swift mango
mystic rain
umbral crown
swift mango
# umbral belfry but I hope he wins <:doropray:1291980012106416212>

And Aha has a bricked Scarlet with only 27 ammo, even if he isn't stunned, high chance he wouldn't kill anything.

He lost Champ against me the first time because his Scarlet couldn't kill my LapT. 2nd time because his Scarlet couldn't kill my HelmT.

Both times his Soda stunned my Noah/Bay and supposed to win.pain

mystic rain
#

did he not put wingman on his scar KEKW

umbral crown
#

Wingman wot

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These days scar on CA is with tempura

mystic rain
#

i dont have enough slots for tempe

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🤷

umbral crown
#

Too bad uwu

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Focus on it and make it lv15

mystic rain
#

ok even if besti wins t1 its still 2 wins

umbral belfry
mystic rain
#

besti would also need to win t2 which is mirror

umbral belfry
#

okay poof for realsies

swift mango
umbral crown
#

Besti wins 1, 3 and 4 . Leaving T2 and T5 to RNGsus

umbral crown
mystic rain
umbral crown
#

Like how those C7 unìts dying that fast

umbral crown
umbral belfry
mystic rain
#

soda will stun noise and siren

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trust

umbral belfry
#

oh there's no trust

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it's 100% gonna happen LOL for noise and noah

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soda is in p2

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I don't see how aha loses t4 unless his scar really is that bad

shell hazel
#

Hime am I locked in yet? NoahCat

swift mango
keen vapor
coarse lake
swift mango
mystic rain
#

bet on mirror match

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gl

swift mango
# mystic rain bet on mirror match

Mirror ofc the one with more investment band research level win, I mean, Besti. hmmz

Maybe Besti SG could kill Nero before Moran even burst. CrownHUH

wind kelp
#

5.6bil on the whale(under 1% for now), hmm, good enough, 2 teams need more oompf. Putting what i learned here to good use 😄

mystic rain
#

no water sg unit vs def nero ?

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i doubt sg team would kill

swift mango
wind kelp
swift mango
mystic rain
#

if besti had tviper instead then yea maybe

#

oh well!

swift mango
keen vapor
coarse lake
keen vapor
shell hazel
tropic summit
#

it's a good day for vestiTU enjoyers, a bad day for nero/moran invest0rs

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although rejoice, vestiTU powercreeps a lot of archetypes altogether anyway CrownHUH

worthy sorrel
#

no regrets. forward 💪 🫡

gritty ridge
#

Rail is 2rl double buff scar an effective defense team in rookie

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I think its too easy cuz it gets beat by anything

mystic rain
#

yea im thiking of dropping 2RL scar trina as well

#

maybe try scar blanc trina instead

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but trina's buff actually messes up with scar hp and doesnt indom her from my testing

gritty ridge
#

Dont use blanc and trina together

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Id rather use scar soda for defense

mystic rain
#

i would too if i had the resources to build soda so she can catch up in cp

wet torrent
#

What do you think the best rookie arena team I can make with this roster is? Was just using my campain team, but its time to make an actual arena team lol.

tropic summit
#

we'll pick the one that has better CP

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(should be the 2nd)

worthy knoll
# lusty gull

I don't think there was a bug, I think that 724k is just unmitigated damage, its actually the full damage of Besti while Scarlet and Soda one 470kish is 2/3 mitigated coz of Jackal 🤔

tropic summit
#

rookie fundamentally is meaningless, just run anything you want

if for w/e reason you want a chance to get a def win, run gimmick teams
(sacc, stun, indom, stall)

lusty gull
#

look at the numbers

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you can also try it in the shooting range

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shared damage is 462518 @worthy knoll

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so *3

compact ore
#

<@&946725432554836008>

worthy knoll
lusty gull
worthy knoll
#

If only Scar is linked then yeah x3

gritty ridge
lusty gull
knotty fern
#

no left wing

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100% left win

worthy knoll
# lusty gull 7 + 7 = 14 14 / 3 = 4.66

Whatever that 462,618 to Soda and Scarlet which is 2/3 of the full damage they received coz Jackal is not hit, is the same source of 724,637 full damage to Trina. What I don't know is that 482,436 part received from Trina, but with how laggy the vid is I can't see the exact numbers in between, but I think there is some 200 somethingkish damage there behind

lusty gull
#

it's from tvesti

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you can see it when the camera view changes at the end

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482 = tvesti hit
724 = emilia hit + tvesti

worthy knoll
#

So you mean that 462618 damage to Scar and Soda are also an anomaly?

lusty gull
#

yes

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it's the emilia damage

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same as trina

#

scarlet and soda are also hit and they are linked

worthy knoll
# lusty gull scarlet and soda are also hit and they are linked

Oh I guess we were mentioning diff things..

Yeah what I was saying that 462618 of Scar Soda is that 724k of Trina, the damage is just low and not same from the 2 coz they are linked, hence Trina will receive more or less 462618*3/2 damage hence why it is 724k.. but if Soda Scar damage is an anomaly too then Trina damage numbers is also an anomaly. I thought your message above just says it only on Trina that is weird

lusty gull
#

it's the same hit, so same issue

swift mango
swift mango
shell hazel
#

game is probably doing something where the damage received in the same frame is grouped, and then the modifiers are somehow stacking?

wet torrent
# tropic summit assemble these 2 and show total CP

Thank you for the reply!

I actually just lucksacced my 5th mlb nikke, so im about to do some major roster adjusting. Not really worried about current CP, as none of my arena guys are properly built. Just want to know what the best possible team would be so that I can start building them

lusty gull
worthy knoll
lusty gull
#

no emilia is becoming 724

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482 is tvesti damage

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emilia shooting range 2 hit

swift mango
worthy knoll
#

Oh so that 462kish on Scar Soda is also from Emi?

lusty gull
#

it's even more weird

worthy knoll
#

Thats a huge jump then, yikes

lusty gull
swift mango
tropic summit
#

wishlist scarlet, rumani, jackal, biscuit, noise, rapunzel cinderella, sbs, rrh

shell hazel
#

so it's more obvious where the issue lies

shell hazel
#

what does vesti hit for if she's alone?

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in the same shot count

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vesti alone + emilia alone + both together

tropic summit
swift mango
shell hazel
#

does anyone else buff true damage?

lusty gull
shell hazel
#

yeah I just mean for the screenshots, we'd have all 3 versions

swift mango
swift mango
tropic summit
swift mango
#

The bug doesn't trigger although this was taken the same day.

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That's why I thought it was Jackal specific bug.

swift mango
# swift mango

Maybe I changed cube in this case and the CS changed or it's not 100% trigger chance, Idk. goldenbrick

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Guess I would need to fix my Charge speed for more test

shell hazel
#

can see on work if it aligns and maybe adjutant on emi or vesti to align/unalign it

shell hazel
tropic summit
#

that doesn't look intended if anything, i'll have some spaghetti code with bug salsa pepehmmm 🍝

shell hazel
#

seasonal bugs let's go

#

Rail is it the weekend yet MilkHuh

swift mango
#

Good excuse for me to roll CS on Emi. hmmz

shell hazel
#

we're rock killed

swift mango
#

Not hard at all

shell hazel
#

when do we get more locks? 🔒

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and more correctly, how many do we get? 🙁

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I can't roll my vesti line 1 without locks

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perm locking mid rolls feels bad

swift mango
tropic summit
#

lots of animu from summer season wrapped up so i can binge watch to hell

#

might start dandadan s2 tonight

shell hazel
lusty gull
#

so good point to try this

shell hazel
#

there is nothing in their kit that should buff the other right?

lusty gull
#

only things about true damage

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maybe tvesti was about crit

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hmm, no difference seems too low

shell hazel
#

but nothing in emi kit says it buffs true damage from vesti that I can see

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

and vesti deals true damage sure but for emi damage to basically 3-4x 😄

lusty gull
#

ho you know i can't explain it too
but i think it's about how s2 works

shell hazel
#

my bracket too new for emi I can't test anything

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someone else with both could do the same test

wicked horizon
#

What has he done...

shell hazel
#

he'll be the one laughing when nihilister gets a treasure

unique mountain
#

Uog

worthy knoll
#

@lusty gull I think its better if you can record and replicate it in rookie with just Vesti and Emilia and no other units, that way the numbers will be easier to see, just find someone not in CP gap, or maybe even with low penalty on your side, as your Vesti and Emi CP combined

shell hazel
#

should be easier in rookie atm thanks to new season

worthy knoll
lusty gull
#

i will try to replicate it but i don't know if they hit at the same time on pvp lol

shell hazel
#

position may matter

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seen in nikke.work that p3-p5 seems to have same speed to p1 opponent

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and p1/p2 are a couple of frames behind vs 3-5

worthy knoll
#

I already made Emilia at P5 with CS cube and P1 Vesti without, still not enough to match 2nd Emilia hit and Vesti first hit AnisDed

shell hazel
#

can put actual stats in here see if they align

worthy knoll
swift mango
worthy knoll
#

I mean even their SBS data is wrong iirc

shell hazel
quartz rover
#

i'm not mad, just disappointed

#

second time it's happened

sinful quarry
#

Hola guys!
Can someone help me and potentially tell me which side will lose? I'm so close to getting that silver border for losses. Doro

gritty ridge
#

I gotchu

#

Which side is defense

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Left side wins if right is defending pepehmmm

shell hazel
#

right is defending

gritty ridge
#

Right side loses

shell hazel
#

that's why I said I'm winning it

sinful quarry
#

Right side def

shell hazel
gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

only 15% of people believe in me but I think I got this

gritty ridge
#

Congrats on the win hippo

shell hazel
#

I vote for the opponent for loser frame pepehmmm

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I win 2/5 certainly. I should win 4. 1/3 could win if stars align right

sinful quarry
#

Did the same but wanted to be sure since it's my last fight to get the frame

shell hazel
#

yeah, did you have any votes in other matches I was in ? 😄

#

the moran one was the hardest one for me to guess but I just backed myself in the end lol

sinful quarry
#

Sadly no

shell hazel
#

this one had a lot against me

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as did last match but I'm making people cry haha

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

tenshi was a fairly safe bet in general but I think I got em

#

wonder if Rail agrees that I may win? pepehmmm

#

@tropic summit pls check I'm left someone else kindly put the teams in a thing#pvp-arena message

shell hazel
shell hazel
#

5-0 sweep of tenshi would be glorious, I'm not counting on that ofc

tropic summit
#

left
left
left
likely left
left

shell hazel
#

yeah that's my teams and tenshi ones

tropic summit
#

their shotties into your biscuit locked, their scarlet into your noah, their 2.5RL vestiTU into natural 2RL no feed and their cope SBS 3RL into 2.5RL nero moran... this guy won lottery in reverse

sinful quarry
shell hazel
#

i'm not changing my vote so yeah we live or die together 😄

shell hazel
#

i'm not 100% on team 1 as their vesti could kill my scar if they time/built well, but I'm confident enough in the others anyway

tropic summit
#

that's a possibility i guess

covert lintel
tropic summit
#

vestiTU is a very stupid unit for that kind of thing

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could turn it around pre burst alright

lusty gull
#

i can't reproduce @worthy knoll too much cs diff

covert lintel
#

I want to know which team he lost

shell hazel
#

expecting more of a 4-1 or 3-2 maybe

spiral onyx
#

Can't remember but wasn't this one of the old "God Comp" variants in the past?

tropic summit
#

more of an indom variant than god comp

spiral onyx
#

Ahh ok that was the missing piece

spiral onyx
#

I remember one of the treasures was similar to Noise right

#

Ok it was Frima and not really enough

tropic summit
#

literally "annoying" KEKW

dim sapphire
#

i miss the words god comp

spiral onyx
compact ore
worthy knoll
compact ore
#

Haven't had a problem with them in ages

coarse lake
#

My own comp did it, and had it happen to me, vesti still needs high invest

lusty gull
coarse lake
#

Any idea the cs on each needed for vesti emi bug

swift mango
coarse lake
#

Yes

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No buff, more than enough if high invest vesti

swift mango
# coarse lake Yes

The enemy needs to be around your research range and their Nero team actually having investment too.ZizBorgar

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HelmT is also a buff

lusty gull
swift mango
coarse lake
#

My Nero team is one of the highest in bracket and it wasn't even close Doro

#

Enemy vesti wasn't even that strong, my helm lived to burst

#

Hmm actually Nero has more of a chance maybe if Helmt dies, xmaiden might kill before she dies

swift mango
#

R
RNG
L
RNG
Wtf? L.

I would vote left.

dim sapphire
#

R.L.L.L.Rng

#

4th scarlet no scarlet jackal it will die

bitter trout
keen vapor
swift mango
lusty gull
keen vapor
swift mango
lusty gull
#

avoid enemy biscuit if possible

lusty gull
#

hard to see but looks like you are close
can you equip cs cube to emilia ? i think she need little more cs

#

versus same opponent @keen vapor

fathom rock
worthy knoll
# keen vapor What you think

Retain the same cubes. Remove the other units, find someone same CP or close with your Emi and Vesti combined. Play around Vesti position, try P3 Vesti then P2 Vesti

lusty gull
worthy knoll
#

I think Emilia was one frame slow though 🤔

lusty gull
#

you can see fire and ice effect are not on the same frame

worthy knoll
#

Then Emi on P1 then Vesti on P5

lusty gull
#

it's hard to see SirenHuh

keen vapor
strange linden
#

My Nero is 10/10/10 SR15 and she still dies so quickly, at least she survives long enough to trigger FB but still what do I lack?

worthy knoll
worthy knoll
#

Just find someone on rookie that is near the CP of your Vesti and Emi combine

keen vapor
#

HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO MANIPULATE POSITIONS THEN whyyy

worthy knoll
#

You can

keen vapor
#

Game will automatically put them together

#

In battle

#

That's what it did last time we tried to not run a P2 unit

worthy knoll
#

On rookie atk it does not hmmz

keen vapor
shell hazel
#

it doesn't

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have run split units in rookie np

strange linden
#

Also OL might sucks, I don't have a lot of DEF stats

#

how does it perform against Vesti btw?

strange linden
#

the real first counter?

keen vapor
fathom rock
#

Vesti breaks 90% of def in the game good sir

worthy knoll
#

Refresh till you find one KEKW

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I mean even I found one after refreshing a bunch

strange linden
#

Honestly I mainly built it for SP at first then champion as a bonus, guess I'm cooked sadge

keen vapor
#

This doesn't makes sense sadge

#

Nvm, I wasn't counting right

lusty gull
#

yes

#

it works

worthy knoll
#

Make it high quality please KEKW

lusty gull
#

but that quality MilkHuh

keen vapor
lusty gull
#

thanks @keen vapor cocoathumb

fathom rock
worthy knoll
fathom rock
#

What's wrong with the quality that's my usual

keen vapor
fathom rock
#

How you peeps even find this CrownHUH

shell hazel
#

bas7ial had a match they should have won but vesti + emi did a silly amount of damage

keen vapor
#

Call it coincidence CrownHUH

fathom rock
#

New seasonal buff cocoathumb

swift mango
#

One extra rock today.HertaKurukuru

swift mango
worthy knoll
fathom rock
#

Blood what on earth does hmmz mean to you

mystic rain
gritty ridge
#

Ok hear me out

keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

I made a vesti proof team

fathom rock
#

No

gritty ridge
worthy knoll
fathom rock
keen vapor
# gritty ridge

See? This is what I was talking about, game doesn't let's you do this

gritty ridge
fathom rock
# gritty ridge

Blanc vestiTU biscuit rapu centi counters this or cuz it 4 units just deficit it clueless

gritty ridge
#

Nah, CA teamclueless

keen vapor
#

Against anything

gritty ridge
#

I fixedclueless

swift mango
#

@hollow lagoon is this what you are farming? ZizBorgar

worthy knoll
fathom rock
gritty ridge
#

Vesti can only hit 2 units and they lock with biscuitclueless

keen vapor
#

Try

fathom rock
#

If this level of power works against your bracket, run double sac rosa or something wahahaha

keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

I cant run that, team power would be like 200kKEKW

#

Maybe 250 if im lucky

#

Biscuit, noah, helm are invested, rumani isnt

dim sapphire
#

5% difference for vesti and emilia buff include emilia's s1?

#

or just for ol

keen vapor
#

But even then my Emilia needed Adjutant and special positioning
It really depends

gritty ridge
#

Theres no vesti teams in my rookie

#

Its a usable team thoKEKW

hollow lagoon
upper grove
#

@shell hazel cheered for you again, haven't checked the teams but gl vs Tenshi

wild hemlock
#

My Vesti has 20% and Emilia is 15%, tried Aduj on Emilia and didn't seem to work either way for me. Vesti too fast probably

cunning crown
umbral crown