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so they're probably siren stunning my ein team (ein is p1) and taking out the 4rl padded team
I can beat him, it's not an issue
I could also make two super strong teams and leave a weak one
like how I attack
is there a way to make this siren immune
it's 3.5 rl
jackal has a quantum cube but it's not very leveled
I had an example team which clearly differed before - will see if I can find it
would this work?? maybe jackal first cause she's linked
it was this one
we're not 2RL on nikke.work
not vesti specific but I think vesti/emi have similar burst gen issues on deck vs work
I haven't searched out similar issues for vesti gen but I guess some may exist
I made each team 3rl and made two siren immune
how should I order this if theres a siren?
trust in the power of friendship @nimble swan @hollow lagoon @umbral belfry @cunning crown
my helm is fully treasured if that helps
maybe sack a burst 3 and have crown in position 2?
also could I technically remove tove and add biscuit
since rrh can be b1
the question is would a helm or drake be a better b3
crown is slow af for pvp
the team is 3rl
low level group CA that I bet on
its mostly padded tbh
I'll run this
crown has a lvl 3 temper cube if that will even help any LOL
so who is your b1?
rrh
she's in a different team
or RH
they're running siren so I wanna make sure nobody gets stunned and stops the burst
it's for defense
oh cool
@proud pendant
Not 2rl but close enough to catch 2rl without much CS with b2
just an example of a discrepancy, may be more out there
also in your opinon would a sr15 sbs or a sr10 cindy be a better b3
I don't think they're buffed
And I mean 11-15% is good break point for her. 11% make her 3rd his same time as 25% Emi 3rd. 15% make her 2nd hit same time as 11% RL 2nd hit.
Those are good to use when needed. 11% is still my copium value.
I think more than 13% makes her shot hit within scar’s invuln
@shell hazel winning run>?
Very nice win actually!
You meeting Tenshi in the finals? 

Ill let you guys know if my updated defense works vs this guy
I wish defense got to see what the person attacked them with
That way if you care enough you can adjust to it so its not completely attacker sided
I will die to tenshi 🙁
thanks! if my vesti was better investid I'd probably have won the stall vs vesti as well
Congrats, told you you would win
actually you did lol
How did vesti lose to nero tho
15% voted for me, 85% lost the vote 
Where is your invests
my vesti not fully rolled yet I ran out of rocks
you need to give me that personal loan we mentioned
I'll get some rocks with it then default
I mean definitely pay you back
That 40 rocks for 100$ was nice tho
not worth
Bit over $2 per rock
I can burn 40 rocks for no good rolls lol
I burned 40 rocks to massively increase my rapi stats
Btw, line 1 fish on boots or reroll gloves
charge damage sucks
It does
you need good line 3
I just need ammo line and my scar is great
An ammo and a crit rate line and shes amazing
It is, but Im scared to roll away my 4 atk lines
Yeah i saw the double vesti vs nero, I couldn’t actually tell who could possibly win
Btw no way that guy wins 2x in a row
not impossible... 😄
It’s not just investment or good teams, it’s luck either
Yeah I see
I got rather lucky with rolls but i would need to increse ammo
What’s the win ratio of your slow cindy?
I saw it won again
actually my lowest win ratio of all lol let me check
my scar 2RL only lost once and it was to another scar 2RL with jackal lol
which is what the next match is 🙁
lost top 8 cuz of mirror matches smh
Scar does well as t1
I need to check the remaining matches
am just uploading them to youtube
I was a bit surprised though a seemingly uninvested anne won against that sg team
I'm less there, I think it's because my ros was lethal and theres was not
all the matches here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZIQimHwLs0
yea my sbs died before indom could burst on her so
fire>wind after all
i mean ideally blanc should be with vesti
and cindy in noah team
unfortunately im cindyless
limits my usable b3 dps for those 2 teams
I like my chances on next set I think. I'm def/top
t1 - I think I lose this due to scar + jackal, didn't go in my favour last time
t2 - should win their SG's meet biscuit locked defenders
t3 - sg's on def may chew the stall comp from the outside in, need ros to tap out HelmT asap
t4 - stall vs cindy, can be a bit RNG on if cindy wipes out key players
t5 - I think vesti should overwhelm their defences here
round 5 would have been winnable as well but my scar got hp checked
she died to enemy scar s2 before she could burst while enemy scar lived cuz of moran b1
overall I think L | W | W? | W? | W - match 3/4 could go against me but I should only need to secure one of them
think u win 2 3 and 5
round 3 u kill rapu before burst and u nuke helm with rosanna
mana teams r too slow
Gotta believe in invest 
ros kills mihara
might die to rosanna
it's her primary target here
ah if thats teh case then u still win
I think so. I'll worry about tenshi later if they win, no point concerning myself with them until I'm actually facing them
loser frame lets go
AND THE CN MORAN ENJOYER FALLS
yesss! 😄
they're +40 commander levels and some servers earlier than me as well, so I could be better invested than I am with more time
i'm hoping to do a bunch of ord pulls near anni where I'd like to dupe out moran/nero a bit more for my stall team as well
nero at 0LB as main tank is 
god I know this feel, same story with my moran, she just won't come home again
also heh, heh heh, your anne SGs prevailed over optimally treasured snake b2
I think MLB is generally good enough

large ros
need to get her one more atk roll at some point
she's pretty well rolled though compared with some of my others
I mean nowhere near perfect but not unhappy didn't cost me much in the way of rocks yet
Gve it a go, first team cleared 5-0, no issues at all. The other team, Siren died before burst, so can't really say. That or replace Blanc with Noah or something. It's most likely a CP thing now 😄
If theres no attackers does rosanna just not do anything?
Also gosh darnit hek, won my bet on league on 8th, i was on a losing streak 🙁
she has priority on hitting attackers but she can still hit other chars if there's none
or if she gets taunted
I see
energy sent, victory assured
decent chance tenshi gets rng arena'd in his next one too 
How's Ein for PvP? I need to start looking at building her for HM Mirror Container. Otherwise I invest more in Maiden Ice Rose, Sanis and Cindy in hopes to copy a low clear with Maiden instead of Ein. Thoughts? She is 0 investment atm.
I imagine he'll just win as usual lol
thanks I appreciate the power of friendship 🙂

I got rock paper scissors'd :( Both Helm+ teams beat Scarlet teams and my VestiT team beat his VestiT team but when it's SGs vs Cindy teams, 4SGs can kill a P1 Noise but can't kill a P5 Cindy. This season's teams overall though feel solid so will probably keep running it til the next PvP meta unit.
If you want to keep up with the latest PvP met...
@umbral crown unfortunately i bring bad news this time
MF chinnit win ratio teams, makes the already boring af CA into even more boring 
close one tho
lack of the draw although, he got lucky with counters on 3 teams
3 on 5 counters should be criminal 
linked blanc stonks 
ein on double buff is generally lethal, with some exceptions
indom ein on double buff is decent, although weaker than vestiTU and a tad less effective than scarlet indom
ein without buffs is lacking
i invested ein for anomonaly interception, now i dont need her
Thanks Rail. Really appreciate the info. I'm not sure how much harder Mirror Container will be without Ein. So in the short term now I can either double down on Ice Maiden or pivot to Ein. Do you think Ice Maiden has more value in PVP?
what's ur sync
441
they serve different purposes, make the choice based on what you need
-do you lack nuke oriented AoE B3s?
-do you lack single target nuke (jackal link breaker) B3s?
-do you lack clip SG tier burst gen units?
the advantage of xmaiden is adding a feedless clip SG tier burst gen unit that also doubles down as defender (can combo with biscuit) and a decent single target nuke B3
while ein can provide aoe nuke if you're short of those (cindy, scarlet, vestiTU, emilia)
plus xmaiden is 
ein nuke dont feel strong enough for pvp, but good to have for tower

man my maiden rolls are so terrible
yeah.. mine too lmao
I just needed that cindy team against my nero or his nero team but blanc linked is really something
@hollow lagoon yeah I figured she'd be a bit to build. There is a 1.07mill~ clear with maiden without ein so wondering if I can try that
it's all legitimately needed
you got RNG'ed, 3 counters is too much
literally just luck there
i have no ele, 1 ammo and 1 atk lel
yeah mine is pretty bad 😄
Practically needed a way to hit P3 so indom could have gone to x maiden but it is what it is
@tropic summit thanks for that summary. For me pvp wise Ice Maiden is the go.
RIP to the fallen @umbral crown join my power of friendship arc 
u need some very stacked electric dps, i can break the hardest slipper at 464 but i still dont have the damage to kill the boss, 3atk 3ele cindy's not good nuff

if ur 4 atk 4 ele cindy with maxed liter and very stacked sanis/maiden you have a chance to push past mirrior container at 441
Just re cook next season
Some people moved SGs to Team 5 instead of the usual Team 2
we're building to fight tenshi in the final 
@upper harbor problem is, pushing past mirrior container wont net u 91 coredust, u need to go past chapter 33 to get to 91
and that boss is another can of worms
2 new chapters later this year though 🙂
normal ones
@hollow lagoon yeah I'm expecting clear around 460-470 hopefully so that's why I gotta figure out where to allocate the resources. If it also benefits PvP that's a plus xD
i had ein for mirrior container when i was doing anomonaly interception, i just improved her to 3 atk 1 ele for hardmode. mc
the hard part is how to deal enough dmg
I can't do chapter 30 yet 
because u can use destruction cube to get a leg up to kill slippers, but when the final phase happens that wont save u
soon tm
@hollow lagoon thanks for that info i probably won't be able to go for a low clear with my resources at the moment. Unless rng blesses some early black lines
But early for me is that 460-470 I'm just prepping
black lines, i have like 5 blacklines in my entire account and non of my meta pilgrim/overspec have anything over a blue
siren have 2 blue crit rate and cinderella have a blue ammo line
man why are my rolls so mid
I'm like 710K with mast 😄
for a moment i'd almost believe you were f2p
idk why u use mast, crown's shield is more important
I think my siren has 3 black lines and couple blue maybe 20 rocks
My luckiest rolls i think
you run both, I don't have 800K CP even with cp pad team
that's not a good pve team


what was even chapter 29 boss anyway
hippo is just coping crown mast tech which is raid strat but not really for pushing
he forsaken his alice
crown shield needs to go up asap if not wanna be dead
this is the price to pay
and crown mast tech needs mast to burst
which has stack up time, problem is stages are 1:30 not 3:00
what was my clear again?
Sorry it was modernia with 3 black lines siren only has 2
I mean you showed 795K 😄
I can't whale tech this
that's chapter 30 boss not 29
I'm on 30 boss
b1 rapi?
same cp as siren
I hate crystal chamber. I can't tell you how many times it spawns the crystal on the wrong side killing the run.
no one is clearing this below 750K without some random built unit
it's often mast, sometimes s.anis
so may as well be mast
I can use her for raids and elysion
nah it's not bro, that cp is lower than any clear in last 1 month if I suceeded 😛
cinderella part damage is abyssmal
gotta build mast some
should b3 rapi for actual part damage dealing ness
either way I need more power

ayways with behemoth and mirrior container, u aint gonna find me playing the 30% deficit game no more
behemoth yeet rock, barely break it before i get hit with it in full buffs and full burst
su need to rework cinderella so she deals part damage
she's already broken as is
bruh every boss where parts is important i have to work a team to break parts so she can function
think of it as her own weakness, she outdamages in a lot of other situations
adding that perk to her kit would make other nikke fall off hard
that's fine, cindy can take her L and piss off, redhead superiority 
i like cinderella a lot, i have her max core, but her flaws makes me sad
Is there a way in game to see your old clear records? Or does someone have to be at an earlier stage to check for you
Gotcha so you need some just behind you to check the stage
Feels like there should be a website for that lol
there is an option to show old clear records on blablalink on the new survey, you can fill that out 
maybe they will implement it but who knows
Hopefully! They have all the data just gotta make some menu system to make it viewable.
Useful QoL in my budget indie-studio-made game? Naaaaaaaah 
Can I put on the survey that we need 500 rocks in our mailbox?
Im gonna need you to call in your buddy who's an expert
Well, you could show screenshot of the CP. Or you could math yourself whether that would be deficit or not.
Your/Their need to be >= 0.846 to not be deficit. If it was, I could remake the teams for you.
If Siren died before burst she probably have higher ATK than HelmT. I already said in the comment. Use someone who have higher ATK than Siren to bait them. Could be Emi.
You are making it harder than it should be by not math it yourself following the advise. And not even show the match up to know if it's deficit.
It's not CP things if your Siren in P4 die to to their HelmT burst, it's called not following instructions.
Noah+Cindy+Biscuit+Siren+Mana
Blanc+Cindy+biscuit+Siren+Emi
Which ever have Siren not getting nuked.
I could math it for you if I have your Blablalink and look at your nikkes stats, but yeah I don't.
Angry blood
he's always angry
maybe 
I'll be red soon
Yeah you don't, and i'm not that stressed about it. I just wanted to give a bit of a "hey thanks for the teams, it's almost there" note, but, go off.
Cmon buddy, try attacking, I dare you (I switched up teams, made them faster, and siren immune)
@umbral crown First time Besti made it this far after season 1. Will he make his 2nd champ?. 
Yeah, I vote for him but not just on bias, he should win today. 
Is this low enough hp for both of her skills to proc?
I said, just math it yourselves. 
And i said, not bothered that much. Who stole your doro plushie?
I just serious about my advise when I give it and want to see the result. If you aren't able to that then fine. I already gave the advise to the end.
I gave you the result. And i also said "for fun if folks want to throw suggestions for teams", so it's all you bub :p
It's not result if you didn't even follow instructions or record the fight. More like Oopsie nvm u suck. 
Didn't ask for a recording either, and i followed your instructions.
And nobody said you suck, i said thank you for the teams, it was ONE try for the hell of it to use up the attempts so they don't get waisted, so chill the milk out 
"Team 1 won, team 2 died, ok let's try the other way around, coolbeans." It's that simple :p
We good? We good. Good 
Like we used t say "Issues fight, not people" 😄 Feetburgers for all.
My instructions was "Siren needs to have less ATK than HelmT". So if you could, should me their stats now so we know the problem.
Or wait to whenever you log in next. 
For sure, i didn't check that much as i was on limited time, so that CAN be the issue(although doubt it, my Siren is pretty high up there compared), buuut, when i have proper time, i can run a recording on it too, or rather check stats and do some unit info before a run. All depends if i get bothered on 4th with my 2 freebie attempts 😄
Also hardmode opens today, so that'll boost a bit as well with the bazillion credit cases. So yeah, gonna be tomorrow earliest XD
Server rerssets at 11pm here, so kinda iffy during week 😄
credit cases? no lol
do bd or cd, credits are 1:1 when the usual ratio should be 3:1
Oh oops, yeah, meant core 😄
it's kind of dumb the credits aren't 3:1 like they are in other areas
Do you remember your Mana s1 level?
It was stolen
Mana and Siren i think are both 9/9/9 or so.
by whom 
Hime robbed me to buy credit packs
I think most my pvp units are 8+ on all skills 😄
There are quite a few options if I assume Siren having higher attack (counting OL ATK) than helm.
The first line is their team and the 4 other lines are teams that could counter it if nothing wrong happened. The upper ones are the least to go wrong. But I don't if there would be CP deficit it not.
Your CP > Theirs x 0.846 and no deficit.
Anyway, good day and later.
@mystic rain Aha made it. 
You union mate Besti may make it @fathom rock
Sorry retro wrong @, @worthy knoll It's your union mate 2nd champ run. I can feel it.
damn let them win at least one Blood! 
Would I win 
I'd run vesti comp with noah into the sbs bay team
skip the cindy/noah comp
does your stall comp beat their stall comp?
if that wins just vesti the sbs team, with biscuit etc
I beat em in rookie with xmaid and vestiTU but lose with lapT
not surprising
I need a b1 and she is better than liter also if t1 drags out I get an s2 proc 


noise noah biscuit vesti rumani works fine here
same but vesti instead of cindy should just win it
Noise on this acc is beyond cooked
vesti is much better at prolonged burst damage than cindy is
so if you fail to kill noise it's gg
will have b1 b2 b3 immune via bisc
there's a good chance that cindy instant gets immune from vesti burst
biscuit can't protec everyone
only avoidable if you kill bisc
as long as you also have similar noise/noah/biscuit cindy gets stuck on single target bs
where vesti smash
bisc instant gives one immune to noah. it'll depend if vesti gives immune to cindy or rumani when she bursts
unless you wanna roll the dice and pray it's rumani 
both cindy/vesti get caught by noahs
retro has no noah
but cindy is meh after noah and vesti has a good range of damage here
@fathom rock !
or unless using elsewhere?

just use blanc for t1 for protection 
Disconnected from server the moment arena finished loading. I don't even know how I lost. Two times in a row.
Blanc bricked?
Thanks 
Send the matches 
so you have blanc. 
the top 2 of my SP bracket fighting damn
3-3 victory
also confirmed Retro has Noah
moran more atk than nero? ah ah ah
but also we did it chat 
FATslob gonna win. are all fat gonner slob here so he must win it for us. 
okay dailies time
Noah was used in t3 matchup attack 
Who spread the info that I'm noahless
Hime did!
Nero need to have more?

Only a disconnected from server message. No matches are displayed
yes, she'll eat helm's nuke unless your nero is 
I meant the teams you used Vs their teams
Uhhhh my nero is invested just that a certain unit has alot more dupe 
it doesn't matter who eat helm Nuke though, Mana <<< xMaiden.
Also moran got this

Nero 4 atk line gonna beat it, Trust. 
@shell hazel COME ON MA BOI
I will finally build nero next season eventhough I don't have Rapu wish me luck. 
YOU GOT THIS
I think I might do 😄
what 2nd b1 you using
next one after though tenshi is scary :9

No 2nd b1. I'm just gonna win it in one burst. 
explains you asking for luck
You don't need 2nd burst 1 unless it's mirror. But just eat the lose for it without Rapu anyway. 
I analysed my next matches and think I have a better than even chance of winning it
#pvp-arena message
Don't jinx it, you said you would lose the last 2 time.
i don't care abt pvp though
you will care if you want the credits :p
it wasn't me that thought I'd lose it was @gritty ridge !


no
well, what are you waiting for? 
Rocks
nice vestiTU, surely those lines are on vestiTU
..... Moran
impossibru
Vesti doesn't need def
wdym
seems legit
don't let anyone make you think that it's edited
nah I'm a pro artist I can tell it's not edited
right right 50/50 right right
indom vesti has had a good win ratio against nero moran so far, mostly thanks to blanc removing DR stacks and vestiTU high damage
it's safe to assume that a properly invested one should delete nero moran
Broli is kinda the definition of all ATK and no DEF lol. 
Me have rock
you know better than me, that rock will give you an empty line or hit rate
Guess what
black line hit rate?
Remove the black and multiply by 4
4 hit rate lines, you won lottery in reverse 
I said youd win, I wouldve been right on all 4 if your vesti was good
Oh yea time for whale
is it already time
Yea challenge mode is here
wrist warriors gonna have fun this one
Thrice because of what blood keeps sending 


da hell am i even gonna run
one is RH team
one is alice team
one is RRH team
then the cope begins
good game for you. I don't know if I even use Alice.
what a filthy pvp main
Snow team
Dot team
Sg team
Mg team
Lotta stuff you can run that isn't cope
There is also julia team if you are one of these
SG team? don't have
MG team? qué?
snow team? do i look like i've snow white built
dot team? midhara? lvl 1 let's go
just elec and random bs with your built b3s for last team
hell yeah laplaceT let's go
I could send 777 snow white and MirandaT.
mirandaT pve carry time 
Honestly if you have rh milk alice sbs rrh and like 1 more built iron dps and cindy you might be 3% capable
Blanc done, trina time
this man is saying i've a chance 
Where your purple doll at
I am making the assumption you invested in pve supports mb
oi.
No summer helm though 
lvl 1 summer helm ez
Grave mari bade maid that stuff
Actually functional
Sr locks level at 400 and shelm works straight out of the box

Can my Sugar break core? 

she better do, or whel will break your rear
for the love of god you still doing this 
You hate on success
Rail pick a team you would use sbs against and ill run it against that
give me an example
Like something youd run sbs indom against
2.5 with decent feed
sbs indom 2RL doesn't need feed
that's already kind of a problem
regardless, look for any 2RL non biscuit team
ideally with at least noise or moran
Tbf I have 2 choices next CA. Either SR15 Soda or Nero. Maybe I could use SR15 Soda instead.
you gonna start believing in RNG?
well not that nero is any consistant anymore, loses to 4RL cindy, 2RL indom vestiTU, potentially 3RL double buff scarlet promoted to 2RL via feed
soda arguably could just get you a free win on lucky stunning %
I often use her in exchange with RH anyway, one season Soda, next season RH. 
That's why I called Delusion sensei. 
delusion sensei? a friend of yours? 
@kind palm The pioneer to Soda in Arena?
ohhh him my bad
indeed i first heard soda from him but iirc it came from chinnit meta no?

what a chad
To be frank he used Soda before anyone else I could think off. 
And Soda usage popularized from SEA rather than NA or Global in season 1
well not to discredit him, but the internet is a big place, coulda been anyone
Good chance that it's the China that copy him
heheheheh

that'd be hilarious
In 1st and 2nd season of CA, Global and NA didn't even have Soda champs or much of Soda match showed. SEA has tons and 2 winners with Soda in 2nd season out of 4 winners.
Delusion used Soda since the week Trina was released.
In Rookie and SpA. Because of his obsession with Maids.
a man of culture
@tropic summit this work?
oh that's interesting, they've some decent DR
although you're gonna get your link nuked
I just made that, they have like every pvp unit invested
Thats why I said pick a team
ah you asking your ch1 bud
the team is gud but you might want to turn it 2.5RL or 3RL
or at least don't burst with helmt
I can do cindy instead of bay probably
cindy p3 can work
if they've CS% just turn it into 2.5RL noise noah cindy xmaiden rumani
He betrayed Maidos for Doro and Besti in his profile though. 
It used to be full of maids and Soda profile.
@kind palm let us down
What abt this
ye is gud
although drakeT feeds you a lot
can you put a laplaceT instead
Lemme ask if they have
if they've 8%CS helmT that's enough for 2.5RL
@swift mango this correct right? ^
Depending on their cp i may run helm over trina
Shouldn't affect anything cuz no siren
Yeah. 
Enough for Noise to burst before B3 2rl
I wanna test against vesti noah tbh but no chance blanc doesnt die
@fathom rock laplaceT less dmg than siren on ele weak boss with actual some ele atk% lines, damn sad
did less than Crown too
let's give her another treasure? 

Treasure Crown
I looked at their shiftypad, laplace not treasured
well any unit then that doesn't feed you and keeps team on 2.5RL would be nice
SR/RL


My Sugar can't break core rail. 
where's your laplaceT
at least she can break core 
Is 9% helm cs enough for 2.5 here?
yes 8%helmt is enough for 2.5RL
leggo, looks ok-ish
Ill record once they get online
They also have 14% cs on noah btw
damn 30 odd rocks on vesti and all I got was loss of atk roll and I need to roll atk back on line 1 :S
and i'm out of temp locks and rocks haha
I got line 3 cs and line 2 crit rate but think I rolled crit damage line 1 like 5 times :9
think my vesti going to remain mid until I can fix to at least 30% atk
upcoming CA will be pain I may just not reset my teams, think she'll at least keep the extra atk then 😄


🧱
temp locks such a dumb resource, the rocks should be enough of a cost if locking two lines
I'm tired. I will retire for this month. Screw CA. Screw SR. My last 7 rock I saved in 3 days were for nothing too.
there is too much rng in the rolls really
they need to add a way to get the stat line you want a bit more easily
or at least every couple of weeks you could apply the line you want to something
And the 10+ rock before that as well.
you guys just figured this game lacks QoL? keep spendin' supporting it 
I temp locked 3/2 and rolled line 1 about 7 times and I got crit damage 5 times, hit rate once, and ele once. I started with crit damage so I don't really want to keep seeing it 😛
Oh actually, why does arcana have better gen than most rl?
nah I know it sucks
define "better"
I wish adding the lines you want was a bit easier even if getting the phases was perhaps a bit harder
it would be detrimental for SU, everyone on maxed gear way too early and will burn out faster
more RNG, more stalling, more ppl stuck playing the game to min/max
just another gacha practice

Yeah but why
dafuq do i know
You and eon are my 2 go to pvp question people
I dont ask blood cuz I feel like blood will be mean
Oh yeah ive gotta do my runs on raid dont i
at least i'm around half of these, minus 1st dude
i could roll bmilk and improve drastically a team but i'm union shooting range main anyway 
oh i forgot Raven exists 
It worked well and against Blanc/VestiTU/Emilia comp seemed to work at first but lost twice in a row now
I think I might just screw RE collab and pull Wet Helm. 
did you record?
Nothing gonna save my day anymore.
you pulling her just for SR? aren't you broke already?
yeah, not even having 200 pulls now. 
i'd say not worth it, s.helm will rerun, don't brick yourself
I only recorded the win and not the lost unfortunately but everytime scarlet dies, RH and HelmT are alive. The win had RH take them out whereas the lost, AoE killed RH and HelmT
I'm bricked anyway. 
would be nice to see what happens in your loss to correct it, if you ever try it
could be link, could be RNG on s2, there's some factors
@shell hazel 
11 rainbows after 15 blue and 20 pinks. 
My day is partially saved. 

I still have 122.6 pulls and a dream. 
@tropic summit bruh I lost cuz i ran out of ammo
If I had like 2 more ammo on her i wouldve won
Doubt but okay. 
Wdym, I was 1 shot away from clearing team
I just need enough ammo to not have to reload
It was 2-3 shots at least.
And you would need 4-5 more ammo to not reload
I swear most of the time I bet on keripo he loses 
I see you @keen vapor pushing me higher in rookie arena so I can perform to my full potential 
My dmg would have a big jump from noah dying, it should be fine
Maybe 1-2 more hit I guess. Still need 3-4 more ammo.
Yeah, not doing that tho
I just wanna show it works
Rocks go towards scar rn then vesti
Then rosa
I was trying to test Vesti current lines
And forgot about Vesti being weak to Emilia and Helm shots
🪦
It's super effective!
My pokemon 
rumani, trina, emilia, or centi for my next SR 15
I'm leaning towards emilia but idk
She has good splash 
I think either rumani or emi
Waos
Besti cooked

@worthy sorrel please win against halley 🙏

gamba frame? 👀
i'm hoping to pull of the win so can be me vs radeki in the final. pizzapie showdown.
DPX and Halley also in the same union so literall pizzapie vs their chinese union right now
Yes I just need 2 more Ws
feel like it's kinda iffy though.
t1 can probably W
t2 might come down to siren stun?
t3 idk how strong their vesti is. hopefully W?
t4 is scary. it's winnable but sgs are always scary
t5 is L
lot of iffy stuff. hard for gamba
Ya but you have max core
helps for sure but doesn't help as much as i wish it did 
I could've sworn my 1st team would outspeed radeki
And my scar died before burst went off just to autoatks
radeki is very fast. he's been whaling at my level but for much longer. his account much more complete. i still have a lot of skills/rolls to do compared to where he's at
all of this burst gen units are 15+% cs. sometimes more than that
he's about as fast as you can get
Well i will still 🙏 for you

i'm 🤞
i've been hitting a wall at top8/top4 for a while lol. been getting there pretty often but haven't broken through for a long time 
hmm I can make this team
Moran Biscuit SAnis ClipSG ClipRL (3RL)
but would Ein or Sanis work better on defense?
feels like Ein would do well vs general team because you would need a taunt if you cant outspeed this team
SW can do double than that :pepeh:
Quick question, since my 2RL cindy comp seems to be losing to this. I image I'm getting stunned?
Rumani Noah Cindy Bisc Helm is what I was using
Totally
Which would make sense
t2 is covered by siren nuke, just having trouble with that and this. Any advice?
Anything can do better if you have the investment. My units don't even have more than 2 Ele. The only ones with 3-4 Ele are scarlet, Helm, Cindy, SBS. 

So brick
🧱
Not as bricked as you can't even get 3% in Global with more PvE investment. 
Then, my RH 3 atk, 3 ele, Laplace 2 atk 2 ele
I'm NA
like Eon
He's winning championship
I'm betting all on him
My Laplace 1 atk less and RH 1 Ele less. 
use his Scarlet team against this
Uh... Probably don't use Helm, need to be sure Siren is linked
Im covering his blanc vesti with my own scarlet/siren/trina
Dam
Question? Do you have Noise? Your Noah has more charge speed than her?
Yes, and yes
Replace Biscuit with Noise
Noise first, Noah last in the team
And hope for the best against Scarlet again
surprisingly better than i expected although, get her ammo and you could wipe
while still copium, it does at least serve its purpose 
he changed his comp out of siren and slapped him dead
Sad, wanted to know if the change was enough
lmao still pretty decent i must say
Thats exactly what I was thinking lol, Id need abt 80% ammo on her and I most likely win that matchup

The day we discover what we're attacked with will have the funniest jokes ever
Like, really, other games let's you see what you were attacked with
if anyone has opinion on this 👆
Dangerous, powerful clip SG also have max ammo buff
And max ammo buff bricks Summer Anis
These are the clip sg you can use with anis
damn, I should be careful with that
but what about Ein vs Sanis? Sanis probably has more sustain & not susceptible to taunting, but Ein kills faster ig.
I have 5 teams that could break core without needing SW or Maxwell built. And 9b dmg.... Mainly held back by my Rapipi only 2 Ele line. 
Could break 10b with Rapipi 4 Ele line. Don't think it's enough for 3% in SEA though. Not in this economy. But should be plenty enough for 10%.
The whole point of the bisc moran sanis team is to buff supporter dps. Ein is an attacker
oh I see.. do moran & biscuit even do that much dps tho?
and what does Ein being an attacker has anything to do with that, since sanis just buff electric code in general?
Moran protects the team
Biscuit buffs and gives lifesteal to supporter DPS
Only supporter DPS in the game is Summer Anis
Summer Anis + Ein is bad idea due to making the team slow
I see that I didnt fully grasp biscuit kit
And I was thinking Ein instead of Anis but alright got the idea
Echocho san 
The amount of times I've SGd people is hilarious

Like for example?
I wish we get to see/save replay
I think rn we can only watch the replay at most once?
@swift mango @tropic summit
try my new rookie soda def
need enough min cs for noah to avoid siren stun and soda unlinked so give her high doll levels 
should need 1 quantum I think
@tropic summit ez
I don't even need to see their team

But still any team will feed 0.33^
10 hits mean rely on enemy team 2nd rl shot so noah might not be in time before siren
besti cs is probably better than equipping quantum
in case enemy don’t run any pewpew gun
cuz p2 soda and noah didn’t linked 

Whats the minimum for helm and noah cs
My besto vesti is 17 and jackal as well, helm like 9% and noah 5
helm not much like 5% less than usual clipRL?
if noah jackal around 9%+ should b2 before siren? 
put in nikke.work to get few frames faster than siren stun 

Will try in a few
Jackal and soda missing for tempura but cp already looking fine
51 gems 
this win?
Did it on phone but i bettt do it in pc
Why do you always focus on that
I tried gacha ade and milk but no luck

its rare to see it above 3 digit 
Guardian Tales 
-# It has an ongoing collab atm
I haven't seen you at #team-building Thien 
You were supposed to be the one to cook my raid teams
Chat flopped and im super chill rn since none asking for 5 SR tbf
@leaden marten check SPA

don't wanna jump you if I can help it 
Why are you slacking
I'm top 5% 
yeah, i lost u.u
both times? 
that is indeed good to know
done, ty hahahah
cheers
i thought u were talking about the champion arena xD
i got to top 8
nice
but lost against hiro
@umbral crown you might win champion arena again. nice
not this time, i lost already 
but there is hope for next season
No one breached my def lately but will bear in mind if I need to change it up 🙂
my soda not that well built but can probably just put her at p3 or re-arrange so she's less on the front lines a bit
thing is if your noah is faster than enemy noise noah in p1 p2 then p2 soda won't get taunted and work like p3 soda
and if your noah taunt RL damage dealer on pos 1 2 then soda p2 might be safer like enemy besti will hit your p5 noah to p4 and p3 instead 
problem is my soda has no doll levels yet 
I'm sorry soda-sensei I have failed you!
send your soda to the gym 
I'll do it!
is your soda SR-15?
I've got a few units that still need doll levels but I'm done with a lot of the ones I wanted to do so far
I need to get xanne to at least SR-5 as well 
soda is not priority I'm just making funny rookie def team 
except if you want to rng your enemy she really do well with 2RL comp
uninvested soda can only be in atk team where you know she won't die before she B1
she has basic OL only and basic skills so yeah doll levels next prob, but might be a bit later :S
not much gain you can keep her at sr5 until you think she die before burst
no doll mats at all at the moment I just got mast to SR-15
and bay recently also, all used 🙁
I haven't got mmast or manchor to sr15 yet 
mast is the better one to SR-15 I think
as she works with crown or anchor for pve
rumani and blanc need to be upgraded from SR-5 to SR-15 sometime.
bsoda and noir also from SR-5 to SR-15
xanne, sanis, soda need doll upgrade from R-0
those are the main ones on my list so I think it could take 2-3 months more to get those done unless we get more doll materials from events
when it's close to anniversary you keep some mats for new meta nikke
AR SMG SG benefit a lot from doll skill multiplier
Please don't hurt me :p
Also just a casual note, ladies, gentlemen, and chefs: We got 'em
( @swift mango )
(And they might be another afk/quit person, they've been de-guilded, and haven't picked up any tokens
)
you can see when they were last active from profile bit
Ah, i typically check via guild stuff, didn't know there was another place 😄
Ah well, more fun if they are online at times.
in their profile it says the last date they were active on
9th and 10th in my SPA seem to have both quit
The fun thing is, if that person quit, and the one i dropped to 6th quit, that means the only person who can drop me(currently) is at 5, and they've been friendly 'cause i let them sit there while i was 6th 😄
oh wow this looks good
true pve main

haven't gotten a single frame yet
I need to cheer the loser, help
Lamiousz win 4
yes. both of them quit so it's just the other Chinese guy and myself left. all these whales are moving on to new things. i don't blame them
You probably could to it too. Alice+SBS, Rapipi, Eve+Miranda, LapT+Grave, RH.
My Eve zero Ele. 
my eve 0 OL 😄
Oh right you're the other one, cool, won't be bothering you(aanytime soon, even if i wanted) 😄
My Eve is kinda invested because I like Crit. 
Why did you turn to pve
Eve can kinda PvP too you know.
My Eve only 0 Ele. 
If she had 4 Ele she would deal 2b. 
I'm
main anyway.
Eve + Miranda? i'm not you 
at best alice sbs, rrh, raven something, lapt something, RH
🧱 main sounds fun
Can raven break core? 
good point.
only one way to find out 
oh but it assumes i actually build/invest raven, yeah not gonna 
My Raven can't. 
I doubt this is enough for 3% on SEA. That's why I could never be PvE invested. 
That is definetly not enough of sea, sea is just hard mode for 3%
Really?
Not because of your fetishism?
Choosing wrong server is the real brick 
Iirc sea 3% is around 13-15b
That’s so sweaty 
I think most of Global are jusdt "Nah, don't want to" 'cause i got 0.5% with a 5bil score, one of the teams doing 40mil 😄 (not that it'll last at 0.5% but still)
Could be both. 
More players, more slackers.
That or they tend to do one run on last day, guilty of that myself. Thsi time decided to "try" atleast, and upped my soloraid PB to 5bil from 4 so, yay!
3% in global always around 5% in SEA
Didn’t like Raven, wasted invest
Should have piled resource on milk instead
Now I have a abnormal 7/7/7 NIKKE that I’ll basically ignore
Better than my Naga stupidly making her 877 and I haven't used her for months to a year. 
I have her 8/8/8
Naga I still use in tower
that also
I use Trina because cp

I don't think I had a 3rd built dps lmao
Problem is I oled Raven
raven still decent as auto dps right?
maybe not on this raid for the core
but in general iron raids should still be good
what core
the core on the whale
that thing's not present in the raid 95% of the time it shouldent matter
mmmmmmmmmmmm
I thought the numbers on raven were still good though?
like her dps was meant to be decent. not meta pilgrim but good
my 777 raven barely better than my 10109mihara, could have saved resource
777 is less than 10109 though :S
but the chances of me investing more into raven is lel tier
if she's similar then that doesn't seem bad to me
Shes good
mihara level dps. Better than her when theres parts
My Naga gonna be reset next anni. 
@swift mango trina was mvp for one of my team 8/8/9 trina and 8/7/9 scarlet break core before whale summon
She is top 3 iron dps but she also like to kamikaze
Just like helm over there
ur a mad lad that run no sustain, i cant play like that
i mean, i can but i have to do retries
and i dont like that
I'm considering raising vigor to lv7 just for this
i wonder if my raven can outperform ym laplaceT 
u use vigor for raid?
oh support
fair
This specific raid needs vigor/tempering to live healerless
I'll give tempering a shot
i rather just put dps cube and slot healer then















