pvp-arena

[daring gust]

Nah i bet my enemy win this next match already

Shyt luck my one strong team go against his weakest team. What a waste

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit he changed teams

help me pls

[polar bolt]

How would someone go about beating this team?
I tried Vesti/Blanc/Helm/Centi/Jackal, but my Vesti died before indom

Same team but Jackal/Vesti/Blanc/Helm/Centi?

Ran outta attempts, otherwise I'd try right away

[shell hazel]

you can try this

biscuit makes jackal and blanc immune to death before 2RL basically

expected link is 1/3/5 with helm having more hp than vesti (and your jackal actually built enough to have more hp/tankiness than both)

add vigor cube to helmT if she is less hp than vesti. add quantum to jackal because may as well

[worthy sorrel]

[polar bolt]

Cool, I'll give it a shot at reset and report findings 🫡

[worthy sorrel]

fwiw radeki did say his vesti/blanc team is misdoming. didn't realize in time that laplace is actually getting indom.

it's just his vesti is so strong it hasn't mattered yet. even with misdom that team has 100% win rate

[tropic summit]

check CP, you're on left, if not in deficit go

[shell hazel]

ah yes the 4RL defence teams

[ivory mango]

team 2 got one shot

team 3 got shot too noah got stunned

[tropic summit]

i said check CP

for a reason...

[ivory mango]

all red

[tropic summit]

no i mean you should've posted the matchup

[ivory mango]

[tropic summit]

i can then add CP as needed

[ivory mango]

20% def for both team

[tropic summit]

then why did you run them

i know nikke players can't read but dayum

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

I dont think you want me as your financial adviser

[gritty ridge]

Whats reading

[shell hazel]

Bigboi: you should invest in ShiftUp
Me: Buying shares right?
Bigboi: ... No.. buying gems

[ivory mango]

rng

[gritty ridge]

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit

[shell hazel]

just 27% deficit I see no problem here

[tropic summit]

you're nowhere near close

[gritty ridge]

[ivory mango]

i forgor it's not like pve where you can strike at 35%

[shell hazel]

more than 15% starts to become fatal

enemy cp * 0.846 is your minimum to avoid deficit, then you start to cliff edge after that

[placid bloom]

25% is roughly the range where you start hitting 1s on your enemy or so for PvP

[tropic summit]

post this matchup instead

[ivory mango]

no cube yet

[odd lantern]

Hi everyone, what does the lightning symbol (on the bottom left of each nikke) in the nikke deck app mean?

[tropic summit]

T2 needs 1458k
T3 needs 1558k

you're still off

time to invest in your pvp @ivory mango

[placid bloom]

15%+ cs, every 3% extra gives you 1 extra frame worth of speed

[ivory mango]

t2 is set
t3 not yet

it's more sync at this point tbh

[tropic summit]

i guess

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit t3 passed

[tropic summit]

oh?

[tropic summit]

how wasn't your RRH lethal on an RH 4RL in p2

[vapid lake]

is siren stun still accelerated by the higher fps in rookie arena

[ivory mango]

his blanc clutched

my pvp teams have been breached too

[vapid lake]

If yes then ig i cant use rookie to test stuff

[gritty ridge]

What do ya wanna test siren?

[tropic summit]

blanc was meant to stay alive, she's on biscuit stack, the problem is your team with splash and AoE not killing after bursting on 2RL while opponent is on 4RL

on a unit in p2 which is vulnerable to splash

a video would be nice

[ivory mango]

should I retry and record ?

[tropic summit]

wait

i know why

[ivory mango]

sync issue ?

[tropic summit]

MF noise in p5

change order to this

noise was redirecting your RRH to p5

record this one instead

[shell hazel]

but check cp 😄

[tropic summit]

T2 i think he showed he wasn't in deficit with cubes

[shell hazel]

oh is same order

or same team

guess noise hitting rapi at p2 taunts

[tropic summit]

same team but shifted blanc in p2

ye she was redirecting part of RRH dmg so probably no longer lethal on RH pre blanc B2 on 4RL

[ivory mango]

wtf all 3 teams ded

[tropic summit]

well T3 should've been dead already b4, i'm more suprised you still ded on T2

[tropic summit]

nope, not enough splash

can't punish them with scarlet as she'd tank your CP, i guess that's it

[ivory mango]

ggwp

ty tho

[tropic summit]

no problemo, if you ever invest in pvp we can try again

[shell hazel]

your noah failed to b2 on t3

[tropic summit]

it doesn't matter

team only need to enable 2RL cindy to nuke, but it's on deficit

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

noah may aswell be flex defender for burst gen purpose in that team

other defenders in p1 would tank speed or CP

essentially playing blindfold, with your legs and arms tied, against a wall

[shell hazel]

might be time to admit defeat until pvp more invested anyway you can't hold it at those deficit numbers

futile effort

[vapid lake]

if i put my noah p2 siren shouldnt be able to stun her right even if she taunts the siren after 1rl shot, it shouldnt be enough bullets

[shell hazel]

she can get taunted still afaik

and stunned

[tropic summit]

siren stuns work the same way as long as she's taunted pre stun

bullet count is carried over to the unit she's hitting

[shell hazel]

noise with taunt prio seems best solution to it

[vapid lake]

naruhodo

[tropic summit]

that's why siren p1 or p2 can still counter noah taunt priority (on a non 11%CS 2RL team) in any position

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nyaruhodo-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-anime-gif-11663505576349852877

[vapid lake]

It's ok i got another solution

[placid bloom]

Mermaid bullet count is not tied to the target, it's based on Mermaid's own consumption. That's why it can be wasted on cover

[vapid lake]

I know how to beat his team i was trying to figure out how siren stun works

[shell hazel]

what is the team?

[tropic summit]

the man is on a mission

[vapid lake]

Nobody put siren in rookie

Until now

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ningguang-genshin-impact-gif-19302549

[tropic summit]

meanwhile my rookie has learned to pvp

whole ladder is a jungle

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

everyone wins attack and noone wins defense

[vapid lake]

it's my resident whale who started trading blows with me in rookie for no reason

I think he wants me to join in all the people beating him up in spA

[shell hazel]

so what's the plan?

[vapid lake]

? I just continue trading blows, its just rookie

[shell hazel]

I mean what team you sending to beat it :p

[vapid lake]

The 4rl cindy

[shell hazel]

secret tech

[vapid lake]

That team beats pretty much everything in rookie

Havent lost to anything with it yet

[shell hazel]

what layout do you prefer? I've seen a few versions

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

not so secret

[vapid lake]

I just sac mihara

I use that version

[shell hazel]

seen cindy p1 ver or alt with blanc p1

sure there are others too

[vapid lake]

Cindy p1 ver i believe is just to force a slower enemy team to burst faster

To make sure their noah doesn't block any of ur cindy hits

[shell hazel]

also forces cindy to actually b3, I had a few accidents in CA where that didn't happen lmao

[vapid lake]

my mihara always dies in time, cant see that happening

[shell hazel]

some of my slow cindy matches here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRTt-0WPxw

maybe 1 went as planned and 3 did not

[vapid lake]

Just put mihara p1 guaranteed die

[shell hazel]

maybe die too quick though, she wants a bit of time to hit stuff right?

[vapid lake]

does she?

[shell hazel]

dunno feels like she does less dot damage if she dies instantly

my midhara still kind of mid built tbh

[keen vapor]

No

[vapid lake]

It shouldnt make that much of a difference because when she dies all enemy stack count goes to max

[shell hazel]

mine never seems to do much damage anyway, not sure what effects her dot dmg

[vapid lake]

Ig i'm dropping some rocks on noise for cs, today i exposed a hole in my own def

It's a good thing nobody is testing my def because they're too busy defing their own spots

[vapid lake]

Ur mihara have 40% atk or not? she scales very well with atk

[shell hazel]

mine is way too mid lol

she has maybe 0% atk, might be why

[vapid lake]

Afaik she doesn't need to do anything besides having those 10 stacks at the start apply evenly to all enemies and then when she dies, anyone who has 1 stack will instantly become 20 stacks

So just put p1 for her to die faster

[vapid lake]

We found the problem

[shell hazel]

it's just odd that I don't see the people in CA do that, seems more she's p2 or p4

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[vapid lake]

There must be a reason why they r doing it, so ask them

[shell hazel]

maybe it's to trigger the biscuit immunity sooner if facing scar 2rl

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit why are you running cindy at p1 and if you had midhara built would you put her at p1?

[vapid lake]

But yea u need many atk line on ur mihara

Each 1 is a pretty noticeable jump in dmg because she doesn't give any atk to herself

[shell hazel]

oh hold up I do have some atk

[tropic summit]

1st: she skips to blanc, unless enemy runs heavy splash, she won't get her decoy broken and won't eat a biscuit stack
2nd: she forces opponent to be always faster than you, this is important for indom
3rd: RH or midhara in p3 to bait helmT snipe or just to create a hole between blanc and biscuit = biscuit stack should pop on blanc or rumani

[vapid lake]

im surprised u didnt build her even when u pvp

[shell hazel]

lack of resources 🙁

[vapid lake]

why the hell does siren stun work like that in pvp, afaik it doesn't work like that against raptures

[tropic summit]

the real intention of that team is to counter several archetypes:

-single buff scarlet = non lethal
-nero/moran = outstalled, you kill when their DR runs out
-SG team = defender team + biscuit locked
-generic 2RL with noah = shield is down
-indoms on 2RL or 3RL

what i've seen it lose to:

-heavy splash teams, lappy + emi for example, they pop the decoy and get rid of the plan
-moran-bay-helmt, as bay treasure no longer suffers from losing her cover, they'll have it up at least to eat the snapshot from cindy, denying her

reference nero/moran:

#pvp-arena message

in terms of win ratio, i think it's currently around 10 wins on 12 rounds

counting qualifiers, add a 3/0 + 3/0 + 2/1

[vapid lake]

i think someone reading this chat and saw what i said just now

[gritty ridge]

Like what?

[vapid lake]

i got attacked after saying i found a hole in my own def

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

It was me

[tropic summit]

they're reading everything you type, they know

[shell hazel]

[cunning crown]

devilish anne attacker

[gritty ridge]

Ohhh, idk man

[vapid lake]

My 33 days of peace come to an end, there will be blood soon

[shell hazel]

@swift mango

[vapid lake]

Yep i said this 16 mins ago, and i got attacked 16 mins ago, coincidence? think not #pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

I don't think ATK line affect her death DoTs though. So it shouldn't matter.

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[swift mango]

Blood for the blood god!

[tropic summit]

dafuq you still playing this

[vapid lake]

[shell hazel]

he's still playing LADS as well

[tropic summit]

also, busted Nep simp

[vapid lake]

There nothing to do in nikke afterall

[shell hazel]

you can gem to hit your opponents

[vapid lake]

Kuso game

[swift mango]

I'm typing in a 7 years old phone and those pic randomly boot up.

[shell hazel]

Blood where is my red name?

[tropic summit]

you should change megami this instant, convert to twin tails goddesses

[swift mango]

nothing wrong with that.

[vapid lake]

gotta mlb ada wong

[tropic summit]

nep is inferior, noire is eternal, 1v1 me

[shell hazel]

I got into beta for chaos zero nightmare btw Rail

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

does that game have twin tails? if not it's garbo

[shell hazel]

it probably does somewhere

[tropic summit]

it's twin tail time

[shell hazel]

and maybe we get drill hair somewhere

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-beatrice-betty-beako-anime-gif-2659405408562894519

[tropic summit]

gotta have at least an ojousama

[shell hazel]

it's a must

[vapid lake]

this game look sus, it looks like hoyo clone slop

[shell hazel]

it's the chibi one 😛

the other one is the hoyo clone

[dusty estuary]

How built do scarlet and trina have to be in order for this team to be viable:
Scarlet, Siren, Trina, Anis, Jackal

[tropic summit]

it's ok hippo is already sacrificing himself by being a beta tester

[swift mango]

A new challenge awaits you. Time to gem.

[tropic summit]

scarlet 10/x/10, 40%atk, SR15
trina 4/7/7 minimun

[vital sun]

who should noah be paired up with on a team?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hunger-games-sacrifice-salute-tribute-katniss-everdeen-gif-12955794807195555846

[shell hazel]

how built is your anis as well?

[vapid lake]

Oh its a turn based game, i

[tropic summit]

with noise, with noah on slower CS% to ensure she's siren resistant, can be run with biscuit to get invulnerable twice, example vid attached

[dusty estuary]

So kind! Thank you very much

[dusty estuary]

4/4/4 .... that's not gonna cut is it

[shell hazel]

skills are OK low but it's everything else that will let you down

[shell hazel]

overload and doll

[tropic summit]

that's what happens when you worship an inferior goddess, change your faith to noire and you'll find happiness

[shell hazel]

if it's just for rookie you're better off building centi or trina as your batteries

[swift mango]

I would rather change to Vert.

For 2 big reason.

[shell hazel]

OK take my upvote

[vital sun]

daiwa, noire, serika... privaty

[dusty estuary]

it's for special arena. Not many of them are going to be getting OL for awhile. Could I get away with swapping Anis for ice maiden or something?

[shell hazel]

not sure if xmaiden quick enough

[tropic summit]

that's understandable, but i won't waver

[dusty estuary]

I need Centi and Rumani on other teams.
Noah, Centi, Cindy, Helm, Noise
Blanc, SBS, Biscuit, Drake, Rumani

[tropic summit]

2.5RL on 91% still serves the same purpose, may aswell run that to avoid needlessly tanking CP

[shell hazel]

a bit closer with some quantums

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine

average monkey will assume it's 2RL anyway

[shell hazel]

should feed to 2RL against all but the lowest feed team

[dusty estuary]

Cool thank you both kindly. Doesn't Rumani need something specific as well? Like OL chest or something?

[tropic summit]

CS% 11-15-18% range
atk%, ele atk%, 1 or 2 ammo OL

CS is more mandatory, the rest is added value

[shell hazel]

rumani is OK on 4/4/4 as well mostly

[dusty estuary]

Awesome thank you. Anything else I'm missing there that's crippling? I've gone through all the resources available in the pinned messages, I'm not sure I was able to find specific OL needs listed anywhere

[tropic summit]

what's your current 3 teams?

[dusty estuary]

They will become this:
Scarlet, Siren, Trina (Quantum), XMaiden, Jackal (Quantum)
Noah, Centi, Cindy, Helm, Noise
Blanc, SBS, Biscuit, Drake, Rumani

[shell hazel]

dislike noah p1 it can be target for siren on t2

noise noah cindy helm centi assuming your noise is relatively built it should be safe enough to do

if you have enough CS on your batteries you can avoid it but you're earlier in the game than me so I'd say prob not

[dusty estuary]

Much appreciated thank you

[wind kelp]

Okiepokie, here we are: The opponent teams, my "whatever stuck" teams(i know they suck :p), and my slightly updated "main box". I won the third, so i prefer to keep it intact. I have the two freebie attempts, and can pretty much wait for morning (it's 11pm :p )

[swift mango]

If siren is linked. 92.6% above would always be 2rl.

[shell hazel]

usually you'd run rumani instead of centi as p5 as backup to noise

but that gives you a problem on the sbs team as no b1 then :p

[vapid lake]

Solo raid day

[dusty estuary]

lol yes

[shell hazel]

I opened 36 ssr doll crates and got 2 ssr kits :9

[vocal kelp]

this one was directed to me?

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

uh this is already won

you only need to fix T1 and you're good

[tropic summit]

on the assumption your current as-is T3 wins, you can consolidate on T1 and make it glass cannon immune

post the matchups so we double check CP then you gud to go

[wind kelp]

Just a moment por favor 😄

[vocal kelp]

jesus understand how arena work and make teams for it its harder than calculus (at least for me)

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sistine-gif-8862065168685297656

[vocal kelp]

and Im a freaking engineer

[tropic summit]

it's simple enough once you grasp the basics, the calculator does it all for you when it comes to burst gen

[vocal kelp]

I mean, the faster your team the better right?

[tropic summit]

in general cases yes, you want a 2RL scarlet against a 3RL noah, as most simple example

[vocal kelp]

some people send me a website to make teams but I dont understand anything lol

[tropic summit]

hmm i think you can learn a lot even just from these 4 archetypes

1. stall/sustain + anti link
2. indom (vestiTU currently is the best at it)
3. standard scar-jack
4. siren to counter noah

pvp revolves around, for the most part, on the above

[wind kelp]

Here you go, although i did not check cubes, but they should be "approprate" 😄 Also i took it as a compliment that i almost had it right XD

[tropic summit]

ye T3 is on point, T1 was almost there, just short on burst gen

let's see now for the CP

[wind kelp]

(and yeah, team 2 is just whatever XD)

[tropic summit]

both are gud to go, this should be a win

[wind kelp]

Roger that, Encounter.

[shell hazel]

2RL noah or bay should just beat up the 2RL scar

[vocal kelp]

someone already send me that, I know the (kinda) rock paper scissors of the arena teams, what confuses me is those categories of 2RL 3RL 4RL etc

[shell hazel]

your previous team was like 90% 2RL which can leave you a little exposed

[vocal kelp]

I know that "RL are the fastest teams, Its just to complicated for my pea brain how those categories work lol

[tropic summit]

that's where you gotta get familiar with batteries then and burst gen

These will help you:

-calculator:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

-basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

common batteries (in the sheets or you can just see my attachment)

[vocal kelp]

actually fun fact, it was actually you who send me those lol

thanks for be a really helpful person

[tropic summit]

no problemo

any other questions just shoot them in this chat, some lads will help you

i highly advise attempting making ur own teams then asking for confirmation or suggestion before submitting

nothing beats learning by actually trying on your own

[wind kelp]

Ladies and gentlemen, and cooks; we got 'em

[vocal kelp]

I know my 1 and 2 teams, are okayish, I just want to had an at least decent third team with what I had at disposition

[shell hazel]

ah the quitter has been relegated so won't even hit back

a job well done

[tropic summit]

now he only needs to be careful for those below though

they'll see a juicy ch4 for themselves open

[vapid lake]

? that guy quit the game?

How do u know that

[wind kelp]

There's one there who is a bit of a contender, but hopefully out mutual discord alliance holds :p Otherwise the rest tnd to poke at a wall when they try.

[small saddle]

Is there google table for burst generation rate?

[wind kelp]

42 days offline, might not have quit, but atleast a break.

[vapid lake]

bro already lost like 15 sync levels by not logging in for 42 days, hes bricked

[wind kelp]

Then again might as well ask if folks have ideas for defense teams, i've just been using the best ones from League 😄

[shell hazel]

last online date in game profile

[small saddle]

Any tip how to improve arena squad?

[shell hazel]

someone offline that long usually quit, a long break at ch-4 is doom for your rank

[vapid lake]

ye i know, a whale in my old bracket quit and the game shuffled him out

I still have him on my block list

Granted he was a costume enjoyer not core dust enjoyer but still, a whale

[small saddle]

Yeah, I was ch6 too in the past. Now down to diamond 4

[tropic summit]

post your box so we've the full picture of what you can run, units ordered by strength

[tropic summit]

yes you can check pins under burst generator/calculator

[vapid lake]

Nikke is one of the few games i know that punishes u so heavily for taking a break, god forbid u focus on ur real life for a while

[tropic summit]

[small saddle]

I have almost all unit and I think I got enough resorses to upgrade them
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNzExMzEzNjg2OTI4OTM2MjIxNw%3D%3D&type=normal&openid=MjkwODAtNzExMzEzNjg2OTI4OTM2MjIxNw%3D%3D

[wind kelp]

Well, on that note it's good to go to sleep for the day

[small saddle]

wait, link doesn't show my nikkes...

[tropic summit]

just take a SS ingame, first 4 or 5 lines is enough

[tropic summit]

sleep well, hopefully you won't wake up with the rank already snatched

[small saddle]

not owned would be much shorter

[vocal kelp]

@tropic summit sensei

I love bay so much

what could be a good team for her?

[tropic summit]

you didn't roll vestiTU?

[vocal kelp]

yes

oh its wasnt for me

im sorry

[small saddle]

nope, she wasn't limited, so... well yes

[tropic summit]

that's a darn shame

could've fix your T3 into something stronger

[tropic summit]

i'd run this for now, consider raising CP on these units, especially T3 can be upgraded once RH emi and laplace have better CP

[tropic summit]

bay is peculiar and has a niche spot on SParena

she can fit in damage reduction oriented teams or stall teams

[vocal kelp]

man.. I wish she was better

I bought her bunny skin but I can see it in all its glory

[tropic summit]

assuming you can spare centi and rumani, this one is decent as it has anti nuke and your own nuke + stall

there's more variations with moran involved and helmT

e.g.:

or the 2RL version

[vocal kelp]

im lacking some of those sadly, this is my roster

and those are my current teams

in the third one I just put chars that were okay in arena according to the tier list lol

I think I had the items to get laplace treasure

[tropic summit]

oof these are a mess

[vocal kelp]

im sorry ;-;

[vapid lake]

So blunt

[small saddle]

Thanks, I'll try

[tropic summit]

what's your quantum cube lvl?

there's an interesting one you could run with bay

[vocal kelp]

Lvl 5

[tropic summit]

oh oke unfortunately won't be enough

gonna need lvl 7 to match

well it's down the line in the near future so don't worry for now

can make somethin' else

[vocal kelp]

I apreciate the brutal honesty lol, still hurts tho XD

[tropic summit]

assemble these and post em here, let's double check CP and then we can finalize them

if one of the 3 is low on CP we'll run a CP pad until you've invested in vestiTU and some other utilities

for reference the bay team down the line:

s.anis can be then replaced by vestiTU, which drammatically improves that team effectiveness

(as you can see for s.anis it requires quantum lvl 7, with vestiTU it won't, but your vesti is not viable atm)

[vocal kelp]

I had resources to get vesti OL

[tropic summit]

this is gonna be a likely decent bay team you could run once vesti is ready

DR, nuke, anti nuke, stall, minor sustain, heavy DPS...

the perks of the above is that it leaves open still a noah and a jackal team

which you can then use for scarlet and for s.anis or cindy

[vocal kelp]

the sad part of this is most of the units you are showing there are not geared up lol

I first equipped several PVE units thinking that the solo raid would give me more gems than PVP, I only just realized that I was wrong and I'm starting to look into improving my PVP

[tropic summit]

well yeah that's why it's scrapped for now

just post the previous one and let's see how you do CP wise
#pvp-arena message

[vocal kelp]

ok, give a couple a min, I had to do something

[tropic summit]

pve SRs are merciless, you're competing with ppl who've had years before you to prepare

at least pvp is shared on account creation date

[vocal kelp]

Oh that's actually better, PvE should be like that too

[tropic summit]

if only, SU doesn't like obvious QoL appearently

[shell hazel]

but then who would encourage whaling?

[tropic summit]

can still encourange whale in-bracket

[shell hazel]

whaletracer 😮

[tropic summit]

or add multiple competition rankings, global wide and bracket wide

with global being pure flex

give them some frames and shiet, ppl love frames

[vapid lake]

tbh raid is responsible for creating some of the biggest whales, those guys in top 50 probably spend more than 99% of the server

[shell hazel]

it does feel like it's basically impossible to beat the top people in SR atm haha

[tropic summit]

marketing team best SU team seriously

they sell this crap like noone else and ppl still bite

unbelivable and amazing at the same time

[vapid lake]

Thats why su dont care about pvp as much and leave it in the state that it is

[tropic summit]

we can't have gud things, ever

[gritty ridge]

I traded a 9% line 1 atk for a 5% line 3 atk

[scarlet adder]

can i win this? it feels like i should if noah would be stunned

[gritty ridge]

I believe you feed too much to stun noah

[scarlet adder]

hmm why?

you mean he will burst before the stun? i doubt it

it is b2 not b1

[vocal kelp]

done, what do you think

pretty low on CP right?

like I said, I think I had resources to gear 1 or 2 characters

[vocal kelp]

I think people are going to whale regardless of anything lol

[gritty ridge]

If im reading right they burst before stun

[scarlet adder]

b2 is exactly after stun so bay would burst

unless some invisble variable like cubes or ol gear

[shell hazel]

bay catches cindy all the same

just noah their cindy and work from there if you can

[scarlet adder]

but bay stops cindy?

[gritty ridge]

Hippo the new site confuses me

I was gonna ping you to help me read it actually

[shell hazel]

I am yours to command (if you give me a loan so I can buy the 4 colab units)

[gritty ridge]

[scarlet adder]

i would think bay stops single nuke not multiple like cindy

[gritty ridge]

Bay stops cindy

[scarlet adder]

but how :D? like cover eats whole cindy burst?

[gritty ridge]

If you can I would indom this team

[shell hazel]

ah it's not cindy nuke it's helm

[gritty ridge]

Yes, the dmg is applied in quick enough succession that her burst can catch

[scarlet adder]

but i would think 1 out of 10 would kill the cover

or maybe 2 out of 10

[shell hazel]

it's not cindy nuking anyway - look at helm

[gritty ridge]

Attacking cindy hippo

[shell hazel]

don't attack cindy 🙁

[gritty ridge]

I wanna attack cindy

She makes me mad

[scarlet adder]

i will try and see, don't belive bay is that good 😄 but later near the end of day

[gritty ridge]

You have 2 people saying bay eats cindy nuke, to each their own tho

[scarlet adder]

this is rookie i can try things

and this is bay probably not build

[shell hazel]

cindy into bay or noah is kind of meh

[gritty ridge]

Bay skill levels dont really affect her nuke

[shell hazel]

you'd be better off with vesti or rapi

[scarlet adder]

rapi feeds

and would die to helm i think

[gritty ridge]

I would personally reccomend indom, it usually counters Noah

[shell hazel]

wait what about slow cindy? 😮

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit noah would also counter here

[scarlet adder]

dont have noah people

[gritty ridge]

Rumani?

[scarlet adder]

i have rumani but she just taunts

[gritty ridge]

Yes

Use rumani in p1 and biscuit on the team

[shell hazel]

send that

[scarlet adder]

dont have RH :d

[shell hazel]

get RH then send that

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

if you got mihara overspec she also works here

[scarlet adder]

but what rumani helps here? helm burst can be taunted?

[shell hazel]

defender immune and b1

backup for rh

if you have her also works

[gritty ridge]

Pick your favorite b2

[scarlet adder]

in this setup it feels like biscuit would die to helm

[gritty ridge]

Helm nuke means bisc food

[shell hazel]

helm should target attackers

[scarlet adder]

there is just mihara

[gritty ridge]

Unless you have a beefy bisc helm would hit mihara

And die, doing her job

[scarlet adder]

helm hits 2 guys

[gritty ridge]

No

[scarlet adder]

she hits one guy?

[gritty ridge]

I believe you are thinking of rosana

[shell hazel]

ros does hit 2 yes

[scarlet adder]

ahhh maybe

[shell hazel]

we're baiting helm or ros with an attacker anyway

if you got midhara and her cp is OK try the one I sent as a trial

we want her to die for the dot

[scarlet adder]

i feel like any setup with biscuit wins this if helm hits one guy

[shell hazel]

yeah just mihara has the benefit of dying and still doing damage 😄

[scarlet adder]

they don't even have SR so i just care for p1

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit and a taunt defender wins

[scarlet adder]

SG*

[shell hazel]

don't even need taunt

helm will get stuck shooting cindy decoy

[scarlet adder]

just p1 defender and biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Helm targets highest attack, wdym dont need taunt

[shell hazel]

we want mihara to die

once she does helm will revert to p1

[scarlet adder]

i dont have mihara

but yeah attacker will die

[gritty ridge]

Run this if its decent cp

[shell hazel]

ok so I suppose then any attacker

rumani only taunts after burst

[gritty ridge]

2rl v 2rl should work

[shell hazel]

we are too quick

we want to be slow af

[scarlet adder]

yeah this probably wins

aa wait

[shell hazel]

no we need to be slow to avoid noah

[scarlet adder]

yeah we want to be slow yes

[gritty ridge]

I forgot noah

[shell hazel]

that is the point of slow cindy

[scarlet adder]

so feeding time and crown 😄

[shell hazel]

just run an attacker that is good cp and slow like mihara

emphasis on attacker

[scarlet adder]

i will feed him to oblivion 😄

[shell hazel]

no crown she's a defender

though you could try all defenders, I think helm will default to something then

running an attacker means you force the helm burst to hit a particular target

[scarlet adder]

hmmm ?

i stun noah

but still go slow

[shell hazel]

then bay eats the nuke

[scarlet adder]

and biscuit do her thing

[shell hazel]

cindy is not much use here

you'd be better off bursting with helm

[lunar pawn]

I need advice on how best to reroll vesti

[shell hazel]

not much to change imo

4th atk is nice but you have near 40% anyway

could mainly do with improving the ammo rolls a bit to get 100%

[tropic summit]

placement is ok can't see the CP though

[shell hazel]

and bumping that CS a little for the lower roll

[lunar pawn]

cindy survives though when facing people like 20 levels higher than me (but no cp penalty) when they run rh + noah + helm

[tropic summit]

i'd remove line 1 ele and line 1 crit to get 2 more lines of CS%

vesti on 15%CS enables teams from 2.5RL to 2RL

[shell hazel]

I don't think the CS numbers in nikke deck are accurate

if you're removing line 1 ele for anything I'd get the 4th atk line on the chest

[lunar pawn]

I'm less worried about her CS atm, and more about her firepower

[tropic summit]

you've plenty of atk%

[shell hazel]

I also think that is true

[tropic summit]

30-40% is pretty high

[lunar pawn]

this bothers me though

also since I don't do CA, I don't really find myself in a situation where I'm running vesti in a 2.5RL

[urban mulch]

rapun stun only activates if she bursts right?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[shell hazel]

stun + she has less than 30% hp

[tropic summit]

oh ye i see what you mean

what should be a natural 2RL is in fact not 2RL but 2.5RL

[shell hazel]

it's like 2.3RL or something

[tropic summit]

it's definitely not 2RL if anything

[shell hazel]

I flagged it before with bas7ial but don't think he wants to fix it

[urban mulch]

weirdge, got stunned even tho my siren stunned her

[shell hazel]

also was same for emi burst gen showing 2RL but it wasn't in reality

[tropic summit]

@lusty gull any chance this gets fixed down the line?

[tropic summit]

so the 25% myth

[lunar pawn]

burst went off right before siren stun / simultaneously?

[fathom rock]

@umbral belfry whyyyyy

[shell hazel]

nikke.work does show the impact

you can see it on a normal 2RL emi team, and it's why keripo noah at p1 isn't immune to being siren stunned

[urban mulch]

possibly? the stun is only like 5-10 frames off from when shes supposed to burst ig

[shell hazel]

even though deck says it's 2RL and his cs should avoid it, it won't

[urban mulch]

or opponent has ridiculous cs on their emilia

[vocal kelp]

is not the number on the right side, below the range?

[lunar pawn]

did you record it?

[tropic summit]

ye this is reasonable

[umbral belfry]

bc the game decided to make mihara DoT miss RH

[urban mulch]

unfortunately no

[tropic summit]

open edit T1 and check what that number say, same for T2 and T3

[urban mulch]

ill try again tmr

[umbral belfry]

otherwise I would've won

[vocal kelp]

ok

[fathom rock]

Don't hate the player hate the game ig

[tropic summit]

welcome to seasonal feature version 4, spaghetti code with fresh new sauce

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

rapunzel stun isn't really reliable anyway, it's a weird strat to fall back on

[shell hazel]

if the opponent is 2RL then rapu b1 before your siren gets a stun in regardless

[tropic summit]

time to go watch animu and sleep, pvp in this game gets better everday|| in reverse||

[urban mulch]

they're running rapun biscuit sanis emi centi

it's just weird cause I'm fairly certain I've ran siren against them before and it worked

[lunar pawn]

if it's rookie just hit them with tvesti

[urban mulch]

nah it's spa, and I used vesti on t1

[keen vapor]

Is not spaghetti code

It's never been guaranteed to land on all five targets to begin with

[lunar pawn]

2RL nuke then?

e.g. cindy nuke

less likely you'll trigger rapu's stun too

[shell hazel]

if they have enough CS on emi they can avoid siren stun on b1

it's heavy cs investment though

22%

[lunar pawn]

they'd be better off running 2RL at that point

also Idk what he attacked them with

[shell hazel]

it basically is

siren stun should be a constant though on attack

maybe they're doing the rapu p1 thing for a trap of sorts

[tropic summit]

🍝

[urban mulch]

ye that's what I gathered

[keen vapor]

Not

[urban mulch]

I guess bro finally got his blue/black cs rolls

[shell hazel]

thing is rapu is the only b1

so if you kill her they don't even burst

if your sg/ros is built you could run those into it

[urban mulch]

they aren't

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

execution squad at the end #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

hmm T1 is gud, T3 is gud... T2 is too low on CP, let's turn it into partial CP pad

[vocal kelp]

I can get some of team equipped if necesary

[tropic summit]

nah is fine we had naga and cindy still open, can pad it out with helm

[tropic summit]

change T2 into this

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

once rumani has better CP turn to the team to the right

until then run team on left

[glad meteor]

Max core sanis

[tropic summit]

the MC and CC slayer

[glad meteor]

I slayed ultra ai

4/5 now

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-waiting-daunting-no-spongebob-squarepants-gif-5281390

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

these pve main are something else

[glad meteor]

I can’t even 1% in sr

Boo healerless

Tried malding sw that one time

[lunar pawn]

let me guess
indiv left

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[lunar pawn]

I don't wanna overinvest in midhara so same lol

[vocal kelp]

ill assume of defense the teams stay the same

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/8WYsZ5rBz5w?si=Frl4dTfzEUBxtLhG

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[digital rivet]

top team would beat bottom team because it's 2RL right?

[gritty ridge]

Are you 2.5rl?

Moran may feed enough to let blanc burst

Put jackal in p3 tho or you may lose blanc

[digital rivet]

3RL according to this

[gritty ridge]

One sec, im gonna try and use the new calculator

[crystal flicker]

That's 2rl with feed?

Or so close

[gritty ridge]

Help me read this thing please

[digital rivet]

I don't have rosa to instakill vesti so I think I have to sac against that team

[leaden canyon]

if vesti has the cs its 95%

I forget how much jackal feed gives

[gritty ridge]

I have the order of how things would go, I just dont know how to read it

[digital rivet]

I also plugged it in here, but idk wth i'm lookin at xD

too new at this stuff

[placid bloom]

why are you running Mermaid, CP pad?

she does nothing

[digital rivet]

he originally had a different comp

was stunning to get around it

now that he brought vesti into this team though i'm not sure I can beat it. so my thought process is to just not fight that team

[vocal kelp]

is that a website or something?

[gritty ridge]

If you put jackal and her 2 links in p1/2/3 youre fone

[digital rivet]

it's a google sheet in the pins on this channel

[placid bloom]

don't need Jackal p3, Mermaid can just B1 for the better buff and die tbh. You might actually die with all 3 links in 1-3 since you'll be taking full damage from the Vesti shots.

tbh I don't even like the Vesti p1, you're getting shot by Helm

you might just die before burst

this would be more guaranteed but Idk if you can spare Biscuit for the team

[digital rivet]

is this team easier to beat?

[placid bloom]

can move Biscuit p4 too if you're scared of mis-indom from 4 shot

that one you can just 1RL Scar Trina

it's not a real team

[tropic summit]

yep much better, keep this one for now

[placid bloom]

even 2RL Scar Trina works, they are naturally 4RL

[gritty ridge]

You can stun blanc with siren and wipe

[vocal kelp]

awesome, thak you so much!! you had no idea how much I apreciate that you help my noob ass in this

[dusty estuary]

Other than being horrifically slow, is this team kind of sort of viable as a cp padding team for special arena?

[crystal flicker]

Too many feeds, and Grave isn't the best for P1

1.6RL lose, I did burst first but that Moran really protect HelmT

[dusty estuary]

What about swapping Grave for MAnchor?

[crystal flicker]

You're so close to 3RL, better get someone with good gen around them

[dusty estuary]

Noah?

[crystal flicker]

Noah will do

[dusty estuary]

The CP difference isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Thank you kindly

[quartz rover]

what are the really good lines for vest?

I dont wanna get perfect lines, gotta use those shards on pve

[crystal flicker]

It really depend on what you use with her

I only have CS and nothing else

[digital rivet]

CS/atk% likely get the most value on her

[quick lake]

2 ammo 4 atk 2ele 2cs

[gritty ridge]

Chat can somebody cast a spell to make me get 4 blue rl dolls

[valid inlet]

I lost in group stage this season the game decided to put me into a group with a previous champion again and my long time competitor in SPA

The later guy deployed Mihara Cindy team and copied my Moran Noah Helm RH Noise team, and I got countered a lot

[umbral belfry]

oh no next CA will be yours

and pls stop going into different champs in pools LMAO

[valid inlet]

I've met champs in group stage like 4 times I think 💀

[umbral belfry]

[valid inlet]

I still like that Moran Noah Helm RH Noise team a lot

[umbral belfry]

looks like other people like it too

[valid inlet]

Few fights of the team in group stage

It also won an incomplete Mihara Cindy

[umbral belfry]

helm burst going to cindy and not mihara

and low ammo vesti indom. two 🧱 at the same time

[valid inlet]

And he put Mihara at p3 was a mistake too

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[valid inlet]

Yeah the CP indicates that Vesti wasn't fully built yet

[umbral belfry]

baby vesti 🐣

shouldn't have ran then

[valid inlet]

But if that Vesti is built, she will get sniped by Helm too I guess

[keen vapor]

Guys, my Vesti has 3 high ele, 17 ammo + bastion

Should I keep rolling her? I don't think my ammo rolls will keep coming

[umbral crown]

Where cs and atk

[keen vapor]

2 CS

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

And, yes no attack

[valid inlet]

With a few more atk she will be besti

Maybe try get atk for her vest and boots

[keen vapor]

I'm not strong enough to gamble

[raven plover]

Im done gambling besti for now

[umbral crown]

[valid inlet]

Isn’t RNG arena itself the worst gambling itself

[keen vapor]

I must fix Woogie RNG as well

[raven plover]

echo strong enough to gamble that one

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1156312129301917726.webp?size=256&animated=true

[short moon]

That guy rly wants r3

[covert lintel]

Never separated from your soulmate

[short moon]

But they have crow as pfp, so you cant let them win

[muted stag]

is there a defense team where i can use

helm drake and laplace treasures?

for cp buff

[graceful grotto]

I mean, at least your fire raid is secured I guess

[keen vapor]

When you waste 3k gems to win 3k gems

[covert lintel]

Like this?

[keen vapor]

Strong

[muted stag]

i mean i could split it up too

i dont have that cube tho

like high leveled

[covert lintel]

Ask him

[keen vapor]

Team doesn't really needs quantum : frog sip:

[muted stag]

as in the blue one

tempuring

[keen vapor]

Neither

[solid gorge]

Am I a Bad person to wake up and check that someone dropped me few min ago (and wasted 2 turns) when i have 2 spare ones

My Eu time kinda works good against Asian time zone, When I wake up - they drop me like 1h ago, then i kick them back, sit 8+h till someone kicks me before their sleep time (again for <1h)

[muted stag]

imma stick to this for now ig

[covert lintel]

Why did you make trina p1

And cindy p1🤔

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-mad-whatever-done-steve-carell-gif-7281251

[muted stag]

mb

shifted it thx

[short moon]

I was gonna say this other guy in my cheer bracket is running Trina p1 as well

Is there some meta strat now, Trina p1 and scar not getting buffs?🤔

[glad glade]

They could have lubed us up if they were going to screw us. But nooo, they didn’t even give MW a goddamn reskin

I’m really pissed that they didn’t remix the Interceptor. One of the best in Nikke’s soundtracks

[swift mango]

if everyone is screwed then no one is.

[glad glade]

We’ll all be goatse’d

Our holes will be stretched to next week

[shell hazel]

alright when are we going down due to bugs?

[tulip quest]

Insane

[wind kelp]

Yay, still alive, still 4th. And Moran got 2ol gear with def, still need to farm her tetra defender gear, so just upgrading 2b gear and using it as backup :p

[lusty gull]

i don't see any issue there

[glad meteor]

Thats 2 different vestis

[shell hazel]

got a point

[meager linden]

Im back wit this fkg team. How to beat this one? I dont get it. Im try a bunch, all lose

Mirror = loose.

[crystal flicker]

Soda

[meager linden]

jackal siren noah vesti helm = lose.

jackal rosanna noah noise thelm = lose

[meager linden]

What a full team?

[crystal flicker]

Soda Jackal Trina Centi Scarlet
Nero Moran HelmT Rapunzel La+ (2.5)

Oh

Cindy Soda

[meager linden]

Soda its Bunny Soda?

[crystal flicker]

Regular Soda

[meager linden]

Ah ok, thx. Than nvm 🙂 I dont have resourses for her

[glad meteor]

Did you try the team i sent yesterday ?

[wind kelp]

BTW big tip i learned along the way; not all units have to be built. Basic units with 0 investment can do wonders if it has "one job".

[obtuse dagger]

mirror her and try s.anis as burst 3 replace T.Helm

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit https://x.com/NIKKE_en/status/1967888260795076979

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en)

【Solo Raid – Known Issue Notice】

Commanders,

We have confirmed an issue where Mother Whale's combat patterns in Solo Raid battles operated differently than intended under certain circumstances.

We will provide more information once the cause of the issue is verified.

We

X · Sep 16, 2025, 9:48 AM

[obtuse dagger]

if this not work try place this placement noah, biscuit, s.anis, noise, jackal

[eager mountain]

[wind kelp]

I always like it when solo raid has issues, free stuff! 😄

[vapid lake]

Shiftup quality

[wind kelp]

Atleast they're a fair company with the compensations, some other companies...ahem...give a note of "Oopsie, it's fixed" with not even credits 😄

[glad meteor]

Maybe i can sr15 my milk

[swift mango]

• How to count your CS when looking at your CS line? Different numbers round before sum up, same numbers sum up before rounding.
  Examples:

• 4.63 + 5.21 = 5 + 5 = 10% (8% tier)

• 4.63 + 4.63 = 9.26 = 9%

• 5.21 + 5.21 + 5.21 = 15.63 = 16%.

• 5.8 + 5.8 + 5.8 = 17.4 = 17% (15% tier)

• 5.8 + 5.8 + 5.51 = 11.6 +5.51 = 12 + 6 = 18%. (18% tier)

• Charge speed Tier (anything in between is having the effect of the nearest lower number) 0% - 2% - 5% - 8% - 11% - 15% - 18% - 21% - 25%. (Note this might be only for common RL. Vesti and Libby could be special case)

• CS tier for general RL
  #pvp-arena message

Below are CS tier chart that I don't know the accuracy so I'm not responsible for if it works.

• CS tier for Vesti (credit for the guy who made this comment, but ignore the 4.5% rounding since it's abnormal and I don't know the math, nor he told me how, pin me if you know how it work.)
  #pvp-arena message
  Another similar one (still don't know the math for rounding to 0.5)
  #pvp-arena message

• CS tier for Libby, Credit to the guy who made the comment
  #pvp-arena message

A charge speed explanation if anyone asks.

.
Below are link to comments I deemed to be useful knowledge. Just ignore if not interested.
#pvp-arena message

[glad meteor]

blood ma portfolio

[keen vapor]

<@&946725432554836008> pls pin

[fathom rock]

Pin not ping bro

[keen vapor]

Sorry it's 4am

[fathom rock]

You just woke up I see

[keen vapor]

Mosquitoes

[fathom rock]

you didn't sleep did you

[keen vapor]

For a couple of hours

[glad meteor]

I got my ultra s9

[fathom rock]

Milk?

[glad meteor]

Rh rapi mmast

[fathom rock]

i cant get the last 100m, good for you

Legend says 5 fps is what I'm missing for the kill

[glad meteor]

Your rapi and rh was more cp than mine. I think you could do it. I did it on mobile

[fathom rock]

Yeah but what mobile

[glad meteor]

I got 13 pro max

[fathom rock]

My rh 94/34
My rrh 80/40
My fps 15-20

[fathom rock]

And I have better stats

[keen vapor]

iPhone

[covert lintel]

Change your phone now

[keen vapor]

insane

[tropic summit]

tell that to the ppl dropping money upon money on this budget indie game, it's insane yet it's still one of the top

[glad meteor]

As long as we have hime. We good

[tropic summit]

nah if this one has bugs it would be seriously concerning, it's essentially unchanged

[tropic summit]

aaaaaaand it's broken

[tropic summit]

major stakeholder @umbral belfry 💳

[tropic summit]

oh ye you right it seems i used wrong vesti, it was late night

[tropic summit]

@swift mango MA

[swift mango]

You first.

[tropic summit]

I'm a shooting range main

[swift mango]

Love and deep space is still the highest gacha earner on the market.

On another note, Uma is making lots of money like damn. Would it keep the same value or just the first year honeymoon?

[tropic summit]

personally, it's a game you should burn out within months

good luck keeping up grinding everytime new meta support cards come out and you gotta redo all of your trainees

unlike games where at worse you gotta change weapon or upgrade sets, this one you actually have to redo the whole RNG thing

(carry over stats and passives from parents, good run RNG etc)

safe to say mostly honeymoon, but who knows maybe the playerbase is super loyal?

[shell hazel]

yep in some ways the bugs are welcome more materials 😄

[swift mango]

Arknight earning is getting better over the year though, last month there wasn't any big even yet they still made 20m.

For a non competitive game its co.op event that currently happening is much better than Nikke co.op.

Okay last month AK didn't have big banners but it got "Emergency Contract" a major game event that lots of players wanted to play.

[covert lintel]

Idk why ppl spent on that game

[swift mango]

Which game?

[shell hazel]

FGO is apparently pretty f2p unfriendly with their rates and such yet also still surprises me it does so well

[swift mango]

It's like the mentor of all recent collector gacha in the world. The start of the monetization modern. Ofc it would do well.

[shell hazel]

it's a decade old though

[wind kelp]

I can actually give a peek behind the scenes on "why are people spending": It's whales, majority of the millibillions come from folks to who droping 1k on a game is like accidentally hoovering up 10 cents. Then people like different things, get hooked on different things, and just grab the biggest bundles and fun stuff they see, without even thinking on the money aspect. Ofcourse some of the income comes from rapi bikini outfit...err...i mean..."regular folks", but mostly it's just a sideproduct.

[swift mango]

There is nothing to power creep it's simple turn based combat with.

World of Warcraft is still doing well after 2 decades.

[covert lintel]

They're making much money and they are still not making another anime

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

the way i see it gacha are sleeping very hard on coop in general, people like to flex, even more so in a game that allows you to show off your super built characters or even shows contribution, e.g. in a boss battle or a dungeon of sort.

[tropic summit]

"se🥚 sells", for the main part, but the rest is just playing on FOMO and limited units

[tropic summit]

the beginning of cancer

[copper creek]

ultimately nobody knows why those megawhales spend money on gacha games like this

mostly because there isnt much to know, if theyre happy they'll just throw money, which is understandable when 1k to them is like $1 to you

[tropic summit]

the other simple answer is @shell hazel 's "i've got money to allow myself spending", kind of a budget-like thing

[shell hazel]

I kind of dislike this sometimes, look at public co-op with nikke

you just get slackers and people who afk and want to be carried

[tropic summit]

ye very sad... although the thing with bones is a welcome addition

[shell hazel]

I have to make a team to do good in that

[tropic summit]

motivates ppl into making actual lobbies

the only good thing i've seen in a while

[shell hazel]

I have some people that like to group up so we just gun for 10%

[swift mango]

@umbral belfry Woa, I spotted a different 🍪 on this channel.

[shell hazel]

maybe if they're millionaires it's a relative thing

[copper creek]

yea, basically what i said

$1000 to them is like $1 to someone else

so they not gonna care to think about why they throw $1000 lol

[shell hazel]

people with lots of cash to burn won't care, whilst I could personally spend more in Nikke I won't as I don't see the value and I do actually want to do other stuff with my cash sometimes than gifting it to SU 😄

but likewise $1000 to me is like $10000 to some others, at least in terms of their local currency

I've seen people in here say like a months earnings are a few hundred $ equivalent

for them $60 gacha skin could be a weeks wages

or more even... for me it's not pocket change exactly but I'd put my gacha spending at like 2-3% of my income atm

this is for nikke, hsr, and bd2 as I spend at least a bit on them all, but hsr/bd2 is just daily gems or w/e the best value passes are

[swift mango]

Se🥚 😭

[wind kelp]

I wish! I only seem to get saboteurs 😄

[shell hazel]

even worse

[wind kelp]

Like, If you don't want to co-op, go make yourself a coffee and let me handle this 😄

I've always put it down in the feedback thingies, which get read for realsies, that some form of participation/personal rewards could make co-op better. Possibly with "if YOU shoot the QTE thing, YOU get eliminated."

[shell hazel]

whole fail qte thing should just not be in co-op full stop dumb mechanic

[wind kelp]

Or atleast not a end run type of thing.

[late tiger]

Uma hype was/is horse racing propaganda
Basically real life gacha, successful one at that
And ofc the furries joined in
Got so many hooked on a declining industry that it will survive for another decade

[swift mango]

So you mean revenue will hold and even improve after the first year?

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

yes, about time to replace that with a just "quick run" with auto clear, no need to even signup for a thing

but people keeps dropping money in this game that refuses basic QoL, so why should they bother

says a lot that it took over 2 years to get a quick run for SR and interception anyway

[swift mango]

There is no QTE rings in Casual mode now so if you wanted quick run, just queue up there. The white ring was argued to help end the run before for those who didn't want to waste time.

Now it just exists as frustration for random or to serve trolls.

[tropic summit]

ah yes, let's motivate trolling, what a great decision

[late tiger]

I know a bit about horses, since i am from that scene
Their revenue, the sale and breeding of horses is detached from inflation and the economy
Price tag is subjective, achievements, parents (mostly fathers bloodline),...

So the revenue will increase and stay steady for another decade at least
Uma just brought in a lot of young blood
Wouldn't be surprised, if the devs have deals with them

[hollow lagoon]

Oh yay raid time…. Oh wee it’s the whale……..

[tropic summit]

hopefully your alice, RH, milkeroni are all ready

[umbral belfry]

this is the first thing i see when i woke up

[hollow lagoon]

My alice?

[late tiger]

Raid already has problems, prepare your inbox

[hollow lagoon]

My Alice is one of the worst Alice known to man

[tulip quest]

Whale raid these 2 both might be used

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

I was talking about the revenue of Uma game itself though.

But nice inside information.

[hollow lagoon]

Sw yes Modernia…. We will see

[tulip quest]

She is already power crept tho dun worry much about building her

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

I slotted my much worse milk vs Alice in ele neutral, my milk does more damage

But Alice could be buffing milk so I just derp out and don’t care

[tulip quest]

Alice needs certain charge speed Numbers to work

[umbral belfry]

there can only be one cookie blood

[tulip quest]

Milk doesn't

[hollow lagoon]

Oh don’t worry I have 99.9% on Alice

[tulip quest]

Whale is Fish for her maybe?

[tulip quest]

I guess Milk power crept Alice also, she does out dps Red Hood by like 15% more damage

[hollow lagoon]

Im just not Alsace enough to click Alice

[hollow lagoon]

My milk’s half of redhood that but it’s 7/7/7 milk sr5 doll on level 2 gear vs 10/10/10 redhood sr15 doll on level 4/5 gear

[late tiger]

Uma revenue will increase significantly - anime is always a loss, but due to the meme popularity, merchandise sales will increase
And as i said, horse scene grew, especially in japan, following all the backstories of the horses they are based on, so it will increase

[scarlet adder]

is it vesti hitting my whole team? i tought she needs to burst for that

[dire marlin]

yo guys its me im going for rank 1 world asap, what team do i use with beach anis/vesti:tu/jackal

[hollow lagoon]

The hell is rank 1 world

[swift mango]

Any chance it would surpass 'Love and Deep Space' overall revenue?

[hollow lagoon]

If you are ultra day 1 player then u should know and have every combination possible

[umbral belfry]

rank 1 world

[dire marlin]

dats me, how do i build a team with these units

[swift mango]

First world Nikke.

[hollow lagoon]

Well first of all if ur going rank 1 world

Ur team is irrelevant

[tulip quest]

Shinonon's Mlik Outdps her RedHood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1zZv1jtDk

[hollow lagoon]

Ur sync would just be so high u break rest of the world into fine mist

[dire marlin]

thats a good point, but how do i build a team with beach anis/vesti:tu/jackal

[hollow lagoon]

I can’t click like that I snipers on auto

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit >do nothing

wins
how did he do it?

[hollow lagoon]

If ur rank 1 world put highest combat power in the team and just win lol

It’s not hard

[tulip quest]

Milk requires Mechanics on Manual Basically Manual Full charge then normal attack.

[dire marlin]

well yes that is true, but that aside, how do i build a team with those units

[tulip quest]

She loses damage otherwise She is Maldier than Alice

[hollow lagoon]

U can’t convince me to do anymore than doing her embressment charge up

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/punches-ground-rotoscope-gif-25496761

[tulip quest]

I'm not really trying to convince u to do that

[hollow lagoon]

Just laying the line in the sand

[fathom rock]

This channel was about pvp at some point

[hollow lagoon]

Retro prob loves them mad maldy units tho

[fathom rock]

I already got 4 ele but that's beside the point

[hollow lagoon]

how tf

[fathom rock]

Well #pvp-arena the new general chat

[tulip quest]

oh I didn't even knew we have general chat

[hollow lagoon]

What kind of money to u lay in to roll 4 ele on things

Not a single one of my units have 4 ele

[tulip quest]

Extreme Luck bro, or SACRIFICE EVERYTHING TO GET LINE 1 ELE

[fathom rock]

I don't I just overly manage my poor investments I sunk like 50 into her

[lusty gull]

[hollow lagoon]

oh 50 is substantial

I sunk like 10 in at 3 ammo and 3 ele

[tulip quest]

50 is META Level investments actually

[fathom rock]

10 for 3 and 3 is actually insane wtf

[tulip quest]

Milk is Cute so why not? She slaps u if u use for pvp tho

[hollow lagoon]

Oh no I lied 3 ammo 2 ele 2 atk, I rolled a ele off I forgot

[swift mango]

It is gonner channel now

[tulip quest]

It means pvp is peaceful.......Until some1 gems u for like 11 or more attack asdasdasd

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-umbrella-keanu-reeves-that-quiet-reflection-before-the-storm-gif-16457425

[hollow lagoon]

I never had 50 in my account at once

[fathom rock]

adadsdad my favorite sportswear company

[tulip quest]

Same

[swift mango]

It's still peaceful when my Gemmer gem me though.

[fathom rock]

Rn I have 0 I'm rolling ele on raven and boda, just finished snow 4 ele 3 atk

[swift mango]

C1-2-3 are same thing, let them gem.

[tulip quest]

He didn't Gemmed u enuf then

[swift mango]

Read the comment above you.

[shell hazel]

that's just because they're skill issued 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I rolled a ele off because it was first line and low roll, it become atk and I asked my self I’m I a racist person or not, and I decided I’m not as racist and took the 10% atk of er13% ele

[tulip quest]

Provoke him, change introductions to HahahaGemStilLose?

[glad meteor]

My milk got it in less than 20 rocks , rng was nice to me when it comes to milk

[fathom rock]

What if you go from chall 3 to dia 1 in 2 hours what now

[fathom rock]

[swift mango]

I haven't had a hay experience since 3 months into game.

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841

[fathom rock]

Type*

[hollow lagoon]

My snow had no gear cuz I lack pilgrim stuff atm

[fathom rock]

Actually can I use snow to clear ultra

[hollow lagoon]

I asked my self if I were to invest another iron code, do I use core 1 Raven or 2lb Snow White

I begrudgingly invested into Raven

[fathom rock]

Raven more general use snow more powerful in her niche

[tulip quest]

Is what the 2nd placer did in my bracket did after I waste 4 attacks or something, Then I take his spot N he wasted 6 Attacks against me, truly IRONIC.

[hollow lagoon]

My account is full of abysmal rolled units, I’m carried by dupes so I’ll go that path

[tulip quest]

Raven hits all parts this Raid so +core Main body +7 parts Burst

not counting Mobs

[swift mango]

Gonner

[fathom rock]

Yeah that's nice but mobs don't count to final damage

[umbral belfry]

[tulip quest]

Yea but u need Mob wiper, or Mob wipes u

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

Idk what Raven does but I don’t like investing into abnormal units

[umbral belfry]

need more gonnette players

[fathom rock]

Only elec will have issues there

[hollow lagoon]

Speaking of ultra, I got phase 20 on the weekend at sync 481

[fathom rock]

That means I can do 30 at 441 thanks for motivating me

[hollow lagoon]

No ur retro u make new account and do 100

[fathom rock]

Literally impossible

[tulip quest]

I just get the best rewards the ranking rewards so maldy but so little

[fathom rock]

Need like 800+ sync for 100

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a wall you can over come believe in your malding powers, if u can click Alice infinitely fast then u deal infinite damage

[fathom rock]

Then I can get banned lmao

[hollow lagoon]

Hence the make new account and get phase 100

[tulip quest]

Or you summon the Wallet in you

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I’m highest sync in earth-24171 so I’m doing it so I can lock rest of them out of 1st

[fathom rock]

Getting a pc is the most damage per money spent I can get rn

[hollow lagoon]

U mald on mobile?

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[fathom rock]

I only got my phone

[swift mango]

@tropic summit where is your Alice gif when when we need it?