#pvp-arena

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shell hazel
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if opponents have sg units you don't want to put a weak p5 yep

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especially if they have multiple of them

magic viper
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Like the one I sent earlier with S doro and S anis

shell hazel
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1 sg unit probably not going to be fatal, but several with good rolls will eat you in reverse lol

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you can take advantage of that though if you know it's coming

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biscuit locked defenders in p1/p5

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or jackal links in p1/p2/p5

magic viper
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Ngl Idk what that means

shell hazel
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let me do a couple of quick examples

magic viper
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Yes please

shell hazel
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jackal links with two highest attackers on the team

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as in highest atk stat value

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this is a fairly traditional 2RL jackal link scar comp

magic viper
shell hazel
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jackal would likely link with scarlet + rh + herself

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the link is damage share, so anyone who is hit on the link just shares the damage out

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opponent sg hitting jackal at p5? no problem, her health is pooled with scarlet + rh

magic viper
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So instead of having to kill just Jackal, sg would have to kill jackal, rh, and scarlet I see

shell hazel
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normal SG comp will likely lose to this team unless it's super well built

magic viper
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So it doesnt have to be just jackal in p5, it just has to be her or one of the two with the highest atk

shell hazel
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scarlet counter attacks anyone who attacks her - on jackal link this includes anyone who hits the linked units

magic viper
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Also why you can space them out like that to take advantage of the fact that p1 is targeted a lot as well as p5

shell hazel
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auto burst as we mentioned before

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if you put RH at p2 then she'll b2 instead of trina

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if you put jackal at p1 then RH does not get to p1 (no atk buff)

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in this team the burst order is RH B1 > Trina B2 > Scarlet B3

magic viper
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Ah I see. I was thinking why not put rh there since if splash dmg can affect p2, you can soak up some more with link

shell hazel
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also this is somewhat glass cannon tbh, you live or die by scarlet nuke working

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trina can die once she's burst

magic viper
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is that also why you would want her to be on jackal link? Scarlet I mean

shell hazel
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yes it's pretty crucial

magic viper
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Man I dont have scarlet or red hood

shell hazel
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trina also makes scarlet immune for a bit - 0 damage taken = 0 damage to share

magic viper
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Wow jesus I got a lot to learn

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This is also only one team comp youre talking about

shell hazel
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example of biscuit locked p1/p5

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crown and rumani are defenders

magic viper
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Right you havent gone over that yet

shell hazel
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biscuit stops defenders dying for a few seconds when they lose hp

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so whether opponent hits crown or rumani, no one will die on the flanks

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don't usually rec running crown though tbh, she's slow

fast nest
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Do you have TU absolute trio?

shell hazel
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just an example anyway

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but you can build a team that is tanky with just a biscuit and some defenders, or a defender at p1 to tank for you as a pseudo-tank

magic viper
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I guess going back to this one. Lemme make a team and could you give me pointers? Ill send my roster over too

shell hazel
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I only pulled Vesti as I simply needed to save for upcoming banners ๐Ÿ˜›

shell hazel
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rest will wishlist for later

fast nest
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Right now this is round of 32 match of mine. what would be score?
Left is attack.
I predict right left left right.
Would it be correct?

shell hazel
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man baby cp units ๐Ÿ˜„

fast nest
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yeah baby arena hmmz

shell hazel
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right should win top but my only concern is scarlet having no jackal means she can get insta-killed by SG's when her immunity runs out

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but all the SG's are low cp

magic viper
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I know my cp is abysmal but I wanted feedback moreso on the team comping aspect

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This is my roster btw

shell hazel
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2nd one I think they may only win as stall comp is baby invested

magic viper
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Wait I think I made a mistake not putting SBS as p1. make that mental switch

shell hazel
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but 3rd one has super weak double buffed scar

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hard to call the baby bracket matches as a lot of uninvested units just relying on comp

fast nest
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so 2:2 right?

shell hazel
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I favour left

fast nest
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hmm. why don't you put blanc?

magic viper
shell hazel
# magic viper

2RL is good but B3 at p1 would get stunned by opponent siren, meaning helm will burst

fast nest
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yes. because your cp is far behind. that's why.

magic viper
shell hazel
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other issue I see here is who links? you have too many potential links I reckon

shell hazel
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sbs/helm/siren 2 of them will link

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you sure? you may surprise yourself at times

magic viper
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My siren is stronger than helm but lemme check their stats

shell hazel
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the atk stat on screen isn't accurate for it

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OL lines are not shown

fast nest
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jackal SBS blanc trina helmT.

magic viper
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Ah I see

shell hazel
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best method is going into a mock battle and checking who gets jackal link buff

fast nest
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Ah CP issue.

magic viper
shell hazel
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normal AI mock battle

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not pvp one

fast nest
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is there?

magic viper
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Ah i see

shell hazel
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like kraken mock battle

deep summit
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Ok, I'll try it thanks for the help

fast nest
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ah. like union shooting range

shell hazel
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or that

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you can pause and inspect the buffs

shell hazel
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but your Ein looks strong enough to present a threat and doesn't lose to biscuit like SBS does

magic viper
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Is this any better?

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Again ignore cp gap

shell hazel
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no your rumani is getting stunned

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swap rumani/crown position

covert lintel
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That's amogussusge
711 should be in my group

shell hazel
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you can only b1 at p1 if you're fast enough to avoid it, or you lack better options

magic viper
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Man I wish I had more mats to invest in pvp units. I can barely afford to keep my campaign units built

shell hazel
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opponent cp * 0.846 = your min recommended cp

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below this point you eat stat deficits

magic viper
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I see I see

magic viper
shell hazel
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run jackal instead of rumani

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you could then drop biscuit and just have linked units p1/p5

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biscuit will tank your CP too much here without being built

magic viper
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Should I just throw in my highest cp unit?

shell hazel
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helm is high cp + burst gen

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so keep her in the team

vapid lake
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pepehmmm Hippo farming exp to turn red

deep summit
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My Absolute squad is nowhere near being fully built

deep summit
magic viper
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How is this?

shell hazel
deep summit
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Iโ€™ll work on OLing Scarlet and getting that last piece on Vesti along with getting those other RLs OLโ€™d namely noise

shell hazel
magic viper
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If I switch cindy for sbs, i have better RL

shell hazel
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vesti would be a great general addition, I'd argue a higher priority than scarlet

deep summit
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Alright I'll make that priority 1 then

magic viper
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And if I swap cindy for sbs I also get about 12k more cp

shell hazel
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vesti also gives you good attack options

shell hazel
magic viper
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lemme test jackal link rq

shell hazel
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you suffer 0% penalty below the min rec

vapid lake
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Over my cold dead hands TimiSerious

magic viper
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Jackal link is Siren and Helm

shell hazel
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so yeah siren at p1, also crown is a bit safer at p2

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never run cindy at p1 or p2 unless you know what you're doing

magic viper
crystal flicker
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You know what you're doing

shell hazel
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commit and send it

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their team is like 8RL, your 3RL cindy should wipe the floor with them

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don't quick battle watch it play out

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record to send here if you want ๐Ÿ™‚

magic viper
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Oh my god I creamed them

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,.. I didnt think to record. Lemme find him again and cream him again

crystal flicker
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Who the hell upload video as attachments

magic viper
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Brooo chill. Lemme try again

shell hazel
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it's fine haha I saw it

covert lintel
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My bay too weaksadge

shell hazel
magic viper
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I gotta start doing lost sector and get more cubes

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I didnt put any cubes on anyone

shell hazel
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jackal a bit low but it worked out, can hopefully see how you invest jackal a bit more to make her tankier

magic viper
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Yea I was a little worried the first time watching her hp

shell hazel
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if she died then siren would still burst

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the link is severed when jackal dies

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redunancy is nice to do when you can, more than 1 option to b1 etc

gritty ridge
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Yknow I asked for spa cooks a few days ago and still no dicehmmz

covert lintel
magic viper
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Im so tempted to see if I can cook this guy, but I take way too long to make one team lmao. minimum cp is about 225k cp which i think I can hit, but idk. It would suck to spend a bunch of time making a team only to find out I dont have enough cp

raven plover
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I thought by "not strong enough" she blocks somethin but dies after

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she didnt even block kekleo

crystal flicker
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Bay was never built to fight Cindy

covert lintel
shell hazel
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you can still win at a bit of a deficit though I'd swap jackal/siren position because jackal is dying

magic viper
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Damn youre right. I tried switching crown for anyone else and its really Jackal keeping me from breaking 220k cp

shell hazel
magic viper
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Lmao im gonna send it

shell hazel
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you could send this order I just put

magic viper
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Oh okay lemme do that

raven plover
magic viper
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Ill record this one too

covert lintel
raven plover
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ya ser your chance to win higher instead of taking hit first, shared by jack too BurninKek

shell hazel
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deficit do start to hurt though ๐Ÿ˜„

magic viper
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Yea I just barely eked it out

shell hazel
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no one solution for all problems btw but best approach is to analyse opponent team, and see if you have the right speed/cp/comp to beat it

magic viper
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Im competing against these guys. Joey and Shepard got no right to be here

shell hazel
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having jackal somewhat built helps a lot as she's useful as b1 battery for any team

magic viper
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Should I give her Quantam cube?

shell hazel
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quantum for jackal yeah

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she's best user of it in general

leaden canyon
shell hazel
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no not really, I do anyway for CP

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she works just fine at 4/4/4 - mine is 7/7/7 for cp pad

keen vapor
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@violet spoke I advise to not hit C5 until Check does it. XP seems to have given up on my def, which unfortunately is using both Rosanna and Mihara anchorded

shell hazel
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alright off to sleep, hopefully you had some fun @magic viper and can cook some of your own team ideas as well ๐Ÿ™‚

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it's good xp to try stuff and see what can work, especially in rookie

magic viper
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After using my last attempt, I just know Im gonna wake up and one of these guys is gonna stomp me out to top 10 or something

shell hazel
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prio campaign units but build jackal/biscuit/noah to give you defensive options

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if opponent is 2RL scar/cindy comp you'd want 2RL noah

magic viper
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Thanks for your help! I learned a lot

swift mango
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The rest aren't that high.

short moon
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Do i have any chance of even beating 1 of radekis teams or is this meme dreams

umbral crown
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** SP Defense**
Scarlet/LaplaceT/Siren/Trina/Jackal
Blanc/VestiT/HelmT/Biscuit/Rumani
Rapipi/Noah/Cinderella/SBS/Mana

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@deep summitdid you get help with sp defense?

deep summit
umbral crown
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nice, glad to know

tropic summit
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told ya, games hates everyone equally hmmz

umbral crown
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Imagine the feeling MilkHuh

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2 for lv14

vapid lake
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Tomorrow solo raid just rng it

umbral crown
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We gonna trust the process

vapid lake
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Surely there no way one can go the entire week of solo raid and not get a single battery they need

umbral crown
keen vapor
tropic summit
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they're already on B3 (and cindy nuke is delayed) while you're not even done stunning

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doesn't really help the fact you're linked with a water code tho, you get ele damage aswell distributed

umbral crown
gritty ridge
gritty ridge
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I dosusge

keen vapor
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Wait, that certain someone was me TimiCringe

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I must write something

gritty ridge
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I was gonna say, im not MA yet so I cant

keen vapor
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But the YouTube videos sadge

swift mango
swift mango
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Basically never.

swift mango
keen vapor
gritty ridge
swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Echo what if you built me 2 good spa teams that are over 300k cpDoro

keen vapor
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300k trolldespair

gritty ridge
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Im a baby dont booly

swift mango
gritty ridge
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I may be ourple but I am just a wee babby

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My strongest team is like 369k

keen vapor
digital rivet
hollow mason
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Well, if you're looking for a team, try this out

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Blanc takes the brunt of the damage then gets invincibility from Biscuit
Vesti-TU absorbs any splash damage making her HP the lowest
During burst, Vesti-TU gets immortality and a massive increase in explosion range, letting her take out everyone
However, because she has the highest Atk, she's vulnerable to Rosanna

gritty ridge
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Who is that for?

digital rivet
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i've tried that exact comp already and it was beaten on defense. if that was for me

gritty ridge
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That team can immediately be improved by using the jackal indom variant

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Faster and isnt siren susceptible

covert lintel
umbral crown
digital rivet
umbral crown
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Ele advantage over eletric and wind units and works as B1 buffer

dusty estuary
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how did I do in making special arena teams?

Scarlet, Rosanna, Red Hood, Noir, Drake

Rumani, Centi, Cinderella, Rapunzel, Biscuit

Pepper, Maid Anchor, Anis, S Anis, SBS

gritty ridge
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Off the bat, never use rh b2

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It is bad

dusty estuary
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oh lordy I didn't even see that

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swap red hood and maid anchor

gritty ridge
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These teams aren't the greatest if im being honest, at your sync its usually better to make 2 good teams and 1 cp team

dusty estuary
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CP would be like ...
Rapipi, Liter, Crown, SBS, RH?

gritty ridge
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Cp team would be your 5 highest power nikke left over after your other 2 teams

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The biggest issue im seeing right now is you have no good pvp b2

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Youre missing blanc, bay, noah, and trina

dusty estuary
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Yup. oh no wait, I do have bay on this account

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no treasure helm yet, but it's getting there (unrelated)

gritty ridge
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Oh I see, bay is hiding in the bottom

dusty estuary
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Do we not run Rosanna teams anymore? is that a 2024 team

gritty ridge
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Rosanna is good

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Btw are you a returner? I noticed you have quency

real abyss
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am i doing this right

keen vapor
dusty estuary
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On my second account I played during the second anniversary, and then took a break

keen vapor
gritty ridge
keen vapor
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Ah, that TimiLook

gritty ridge
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Rapu was last available at either new years or 2nd anni iirc

keen vapor
dusty estuary
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Can we do like ... Scarlet, Maid Anchor, Centi, S Anis, Noir?

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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That is a very large break, would take leviathan activities to catch up

gritty ridge
keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Also what echo said

dusty estuary
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damn it

gritty ridge
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For every team, start with the bursts you wanna use then fill in

keen vapor
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And said bursts must bring survivability, and hopefully damage buffing

gritty ridge
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Your biggest issue is b2 like I said earlier

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You only have 1 and its bay

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Manchor can work in cope teams or sg team, but ideally you wouldnt use her

keen vapor
dusty estuary
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Rumani, Centi, Noir, S Anis, Scarlet?

gritty ridge
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Rumani, sanis, biscuit, noir, centi

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Ah ur right

dusty estuary
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Drake?

gritty ridge
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I dont use noir so I forgot she buffs ammo

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Drake would work yes

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Their drake is untreasured

gritty ridge
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Echo do you see moran in their roster?

dusty estuary
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no she's not there

keen vapor
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No sadge

gritty ridge
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Rip

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Actually a pretty fast team

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Natural 2.5 is weird to see tho

keen vapor
dusty estuary
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Rapunzel, Anis, Cinderella, Red Hood, Scarlet?

gritty ridge
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Why do you keep adding offburst scarletNovelHmm

dusty estuary
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Rapunzel, Anis, Cinderella, Scarlet, Red Hood?

keen vapor
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TimiLook well, that indeed will be in burst on PvE

gritty ridge
keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Its a weird roster im working with dont boolysusge

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Noir buffs scarlet by ammo count, grave is decent gen with decent buffs

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Can use crown but its slower

keen vapor
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Ammo what ?

gritty ridge
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I said wrong name

dusty estuary
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so that does leave us with the cp team
Rapipi, Liter, Crown, SBS, RH

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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With the grave team theres a chance of bump to 2.5 with counter rng+feed

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Crown is a higher base buff than grave, ive also seen her shield somewhat work

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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9% feed not viable?

dusty estuary
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Well it was a very weird roster, with very weird options, so appreciate both of you looking at it and working with it. thank you very much

gritty ridge
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Go with the crown version if you wanna use those 2

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Btw, do you have any suggestions other than those 2 teams?

keen vapor
dusty estuary
raven plover
real abyss
gritty ridge
keen vapor
umbral crown
gritty ridge
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You can do this if noah has taunt priority btw

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Or this if its higher cp

restive willow
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Can Treasure Poli survive shotgun defense team at P5 slot until 5SG timing?

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Shes closeDoro

real abyss
dusty estuary
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Is it worth upgrading pvp units with blue R dolls?

real abyss
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i only level up purples

dusty estuary
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This account is going to be at the level 160 wall for awhile. And it isnt exactly raining SR dolls, so its either blue doll or nothing. But like, stats wise, is it worth it

real abyss
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might as well be walled for a while

dusty estuary
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Like a level 15 R doll gives pretty comparable stats to a level 5 SR doll

real abyss
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thats basically what your purple doll starts at when you replace your blue doll

glad meteor
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I sr5 my pvp units personally pepehmmm

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Some niche units want sr15 depending on comp

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At low sync dolls are strong stats, the higher the sync, the less doll stats matter pepehmmm

dusty estuary
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Yea that's why i used to sr5 comparison. Ok that makes sense thank you kindly

keen vapor
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Should I tell him pepehmmm

digital whale
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wtf 3S

short plaza
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what's a good Nero Moran team(s)?

spare nimbus
short moon
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For team 1 ur gonna get outsped

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Their scarlet burst will go off before yours

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For team 2 you are also gonna get outsped

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But maybe Blanc will save it for you

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Team 3 you would beat them

vocal kelp
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Any Arena experts who can advise me? I'm still very new to this mode. I think my teams 1 and 2 are "okay," but I'm not sure about the third. I only put characters I had on my roster that, according to the tier list, are good in Arena.

short moon
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2nd team is fine, probably swap humanity from 3rd team to team 1 and swap with sbs

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Move humanity to outside

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Humanity = rumani

empty rose
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Sp team please

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Neon have max level sr doll, i think she can tank a bit longer

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Oh yeah, i also just got bade and bmilk after take this screenshot

vocal kelp
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okay, so change exchange teams rumani from SCS is that correct?

short moon
vocal kelp
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what can I change to make it better?

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I open to suggestins

short moon
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Idk who else you hvae

vocal kelp
vocal kelp
short moon
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Probably better off taking sanis out of the Blanc team and putting in more burst gen chara

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Bay could get pulled too

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And naga

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Anis would be good for burst gen but idk the cp gap on her

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Oh you have vesti

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That would be better than sbs

crystal flicker
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VesTac RH Blanc

crystal flicker
empty rose
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Thanks

real abyss
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is it possible to make a full 2 rl sp team?

glad meteor
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Yes pepehmmm

shell hazel
glad meteor
flat rock
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Hi.
Hope all are well.
Kindly any assistance for pvp( special and normal arena)
This is my roster and current setup( attack and defence is the same).
Tried looking up some pvp guides but lack some of the mentioned core units.
So was wondering if there are any better setups.
Thanks alot.
Any input is highly appreciated.

shell hazel
# flat rock

I feel like 256K power at sync 330 is very low. what do you get if you "auto" a team cp wise?

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this was my team at 330 lol

mystic rain
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i dont think 520k at 330 is normal either

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thats hyper invest into pvp units

shell hazel
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well my pve team was similar/more

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point is 256K at this sync seems incredibly low

mystic rain
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i am pvp main invest as well my team doesnt even come close to 500k

shell hazel
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256k power with pvp units though is suicide at these levels

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better off cp pad pve team if it's like half the power otherwise

mystic rain
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oh that guy yea thats seriously low

shell hazel
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it's why I want to know what auto spits out

mystic rain
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probably naked noise rapu noah jackal

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not even sr5 dolls yet on his pvp units i doubt he has them full OL

shell hazel
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yes looks like, without invest need to wait and power up or at most use them sparingly because cp gap is a worse pain

shell hazel
mystic rain
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500k thats all 5 units at 100k cp each

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thats a lot

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my pvp units are only averaging at 70-80k cp

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+10k cp if sr15

ivory mango
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Can I take him down ?
@tropic summit
(I can change my teams)

mystic rain
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for referencce my moran whos sr15 7-7-10 7/12 lines first roll barely breaks 90k

shell hazel
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makes sense, maybe the dupes add up a bit as well. though I don't have any at max and my highest is helm at c6

mystic rain
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do u have any gear upgraded on ur pvp units?

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jackal noah etc

shell hazel
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I always +1 minimum

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it's cheap enough to do once I'm done with basic OL

mystic rain
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probably adds up as well if u do that on all 5 units in a team

shell hazel
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+3 for dps

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+2/3 eventually for everyone

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I mean in the end I'll +5 the main ones just a while off that yet

mystic rain
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i cant upgrade my gear on my pvp units just yet im still finishing OL on a lot of units

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gear xp sucks

shell hazel
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yeah I've already done a lot so I can afford to upgrade the rest now, I need to OL m.mast next ;S

mystic rain
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ur mast not yet sr15 5OL?

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bricked KEKW

shell hazel
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nope

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bay is my next SR-15 target pepehmmm

mystic rain
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mast is really strong like i did test on kraken before she was sr15 and after she was sr15 and just the highger base atk for her caster buff gave my kraken team 300m more dmg

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absolutely cracked

shell hazel
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will have to see if I can do more than bay on this solo raid

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mast is SR-5 at least so last couple of jumps to make

mystic rain
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im looking to sr15/treasure laplace just so i can have more battery units i can use

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that or vesti

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ideally both

empty rose
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Mmast or mast?

mystic rain
shell hazel
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yeah I did vesti already too much to build lol

shell hazel
empty rose
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Hmm, lucky i sr15 her already, i randomly put the doll to her XD

mystic rain
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if mmast was just regular 20 sec cd instead of 40 i think she would be stronger than crown

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in terms of raw dmg buffing

empty rose
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But on my team, her dmg not really big :0

mystic rain
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most supports have trash personal dps

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except for support units pseudo dps like siren

shell hazel
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yeah you take her for the buff to the other units

empty rose
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She sometimes got hangover at worst timing CrownHUH

shell hazel
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shouldn't do if anchor is in the team CrownHUH

shell hazel
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after soda I think it's mainly xanne I need to do some OL for, but she done OK so far in CA with no doll levels and no OL

mystic rain
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have u heard of scar trina mast tech

quick lake
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xanne barely used nowadays

shell hazel
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she's flex b2 for my sg comp

shell hazel
quick lake
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mast actually quite good. But surprisingly not used in EN at all

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Seems like a CN(?) preference

mystic rain
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i have her on wishlist now just so i can try her out in champs

shell hazel
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mast? wait old mast or new one?

quick lake
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old mast

shell hazel
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I wouldn't really want to build old mast I think

quick lake
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Scar Trina Mast flex Jackal

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Says @umbral crown who instantly sr15 her KEKW

shell hazel
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I'd just run soda instead more fun watching the rng stun

mystic rain
shell hazel
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your flex likely needs to be another clip RL

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3RL scar is doomed ๐Ÿ˜„

quick lake
mystic rain
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o yea soda is the flex slot

shell hazel
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soda has low gen

mystic rain
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the idea is to kill enemy team with scar s2 before burst with crits

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blanc with no biscuit team would probably just die to this

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i think rosanna also kills herself to this team before b1 lmao

shell hazel
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ros breaks link, she might die but not if not then your scar is dead

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3rl is probably too slow, you'll lose to 2RL scar

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plus soda giga feeding

mystic rain
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yea that why i said soda is flex slot

shell hazel
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too slow for flex spot

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chop an anis in and you're back to 2RL

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to me mast feels like the flex spot here really

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scar trina flex clipRL jackal

mystic rain
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i mean if u jus wanna 2RL nuke then just run trina rh scar

empty rose
shell hazel
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what does mast do that makes this version better than the normal 2RL?

mystic rain
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higher kill potential vs tank teams

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its also risky-er cuz ur relying more on scar s2

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and crits

shell hazel
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does mast boost scar s2 somehow? otherwise it feels like same as normal scar will s2 either way

mystic rain
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havent seen how this team runs vs noise b1 but vs nero teams, nero dies before burst

shell hazel
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but how is mast making that possible? I know nothing about basic mast kit

mystic rain
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s1 and s2

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essentially ur just looking for more crits

shell hazel
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so she boosts crit whilst being off-burst?

mystic rain
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yep

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if mast is linked then she can proc her s1 reliably

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which means more crit

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s2 buff acticvates at start so ๐Ÿคท

shell hazel
#

I haven't seen anyone running this comp yet in our CA brackets

crystal flicker
mystic rain
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yea its mostly CN

shell hazel
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it's new/differrent I guess but may have some downsides also

mystic rain
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i think NA is running it as well like a few

raven plover
#

I think I saw a vid where it loses to

noise noah rumani biscuit cindy

simply because scar counter took down cindy HP to half and proc biscuit

mystic rain
#

yea noah teams usually would just counter scar teams anyway

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if same speed

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if its 2RL scar vs noise 3RL i think its still close

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if noise can b1 before scar b3 scar would still lose

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so its like ๐Ÿคท

crystal flicker
#

That's not very good to depend on

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Some people might run fast ass comp like me

mystic rain
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can u 2RL on all 3 teams

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ohhhh idk how scar trina mast would do vs scar trina 2RL tho

crystal flicker
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If you fighting P1 or P2 Scar, Noah will debuff her atk

mystic rain
#

ur fighting vs noah teams with lvl10 s2?

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or rather u have noah with s2 max?

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1 stack completely negates noah s2 btw

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and u can stack 3 if u have 30 ammo

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by 2RL

crystal flicker
#

Are you sure debuff will just reduce atk buff

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Coz theres a time where my Scarlet Trina failed to nuke Cindy Noah from that debuff

mystic rain
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unless im missing something

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or u think 8% dmg taken reduction is enough to mitigate scar trina

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but that also begs the question: who even maxes out noah s1 and s2

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what kinda leviathans are u fighting

crystal flicker
#

Consistent

crystal flicker
mystic rain
umbral crown
mystic rain
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feom my experience, the only bursts that can tank scar b3 even with trina is noise, noah, moran

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as long as u can match noise noah or moran burst BEFORE scar b3 i think ur safe

shell hazel
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Bay

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it's one reason I'm building my Bay, been a useful attacking tool for scar 2RL

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frees up Noah for another team

mystic rain
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that too

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but that still leaves the issue of matching their burst before scarlet

shell hazel
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same speed should be good

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2RL to 2RL and you're quick enough, only hyper-invested scar comps with CS when you have none should beat you then

mystic rain
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yes but can u 2RL on all 3 teams?

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emilia players probably can

shell hazel
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you only need to beat 2 if talking about attacking

mystic rain
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oh i was talking abt defending XDD

shell hazel
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I don't care to necessarily try to 3/3 against my +30 sync whale with max cores

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yeah bay isn't great on def anyway in my view

mystic rain
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shes great in bed tho

shell hazel
#

<@&946725432554836008>

flat rock
flat rock
shell hazel
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you should run pve cp pad teams for now, your pvp units would need more cp to be usable

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build jackal first
SR-5
4/4/4 skills
4 OL (+0 is fine) with rock added for cp/stats

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once jackal is ready and close to CP of your other units you can sub her in for someone

flat rock
shell hazel
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one jackal is ready build Noah if you have her

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then Biscuit

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same thing, SR-5, basic skill levels, basic overloads

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sub each in as they are ready, Noah should be primary b2 on her team

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then look at blanc / rumani / centi / trina for general purpose units if you can spare the resources

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should max out your Helm treasure as well she's very good for both pve and pvp

flat rock
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I can build have lots of mats.
Just gears might be an issues ...

flat rock
shell hazel
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overload is a requirement more or less on all 4 pieces, just to the basic level

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but it takes a while, a week or so per unit I find

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you're 3RL with just jackal and helmT let alone whatever other b2 or other units you run lol

flat rock
mystic rain
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u can tank the laser aoe at 500k

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or r u still dying to it

spare nimbus
#

who is winning this?

meager linden
#

Hello guys! How to beat this team?

gritty ridge
graceful grotto
gritty ridge
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Really?

spare nimbus
graceful grotto
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yeap, helmT burst + noise heal + noah

gritty ridge
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Vesti should be able to break through

meager linden
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Damn i dont invest in Besti yet :\

graceful grotto
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but if indo with vestiTU maybe can work

gritty ridge
graceful grotto
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you could try Soda + scar 2RL

gritty ridge
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2rl rosa would work Doro

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Just remove helm

spare nimbus
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i just have siren there so that they can't keep healing and get stunned

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it's still 2rl

gritty ridge
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Siren is big feed assuming noise is linked tho

glad meteor
graceful grotto
mystic rain
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lmao

graceful grotto
gritty ridge
#

Why are you suggesting slow cindysusge

glad meteor
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Itโ€™s popular ca team shrug

keen vapor
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Man, I almost miss the cheer SirenHuh

graceful grotto
#

who used that team in CA?

glad meteor
graceful grotto
glad meteor
keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

I still like rosa

glad meteor
graceful grotto
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i mean against a 2RL nuke with no protection, sure

glad meteor
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Also beats noah cindy

graceful grotto
#

but against a Noah (protection) + Noise and HelmT (heal)

glad meteor
graceful grotto
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i think can be tricky

glad meteor
mystic rain
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mihara would apply dot to counteract heal but slow cindy should nuke fast noah

gritty ridge
#

This team is specifically made to counter 2rl noah

mystic rain
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thats generally how u fight fast noah teams, u either stall with indom to outlast noah invul or wait out noah invul to nuke them afterwards

gritty ridge
#

It would probably work assuming they have mihara invested

mystic rain
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mihara is just a bonus

glad meteor
mystic rain
gritty ridge
#

You could also nero moranpepehmmm

glad meteor
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And mihara guaranteed to be killed by helm

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Only attacker in team

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Unless people building atk ol biscuit hmmz

gritty ridge
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Thats why I said invested mihara tho, cuz what if cindy is highest attack

glad meteor
#

But that would be interesting

gritty ridge
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4 atk ol cindy isnt uncommon tbf

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I actually didn't know if cindy decoy could eat helm nuke, cuz scar goes through decoy

graceful grotto
#

still

glad meteor
#

Scar is aoe

graceful grotto
#

it's hard for cindy to out-attack miharara tho

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my miharara is like 50% more dmg than cindy when cindy has 4 OL stats with atk and miharara only has 1/2

shell hazel
shell hazel
flat rock
mystic rain
#

holy cdr team

flat rock
graceful grotto
mystic rain
graceful grotto
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i see SR15 biscuit but not SR15 miharara

mystic rain
#

ur fighting ziz no?

graceful grotto
#

the pvp dedication is real

shell hazel
#

I think cindy p1 version may be better tbh, I've burst with mihara like 3 times now in 4 matches lol

mystic rain
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or did u mean snake

shell hazel
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also need to finish Bay (R-5 lol)

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I will use mihara in raids and such too

flat rock
shell hazel
#

what chapter are you on?

mystic rain
#

u said last boss for normal campaign

shell hazel
#

normal ends at chapter 40 now

flat rock
mystic rain
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ziz is the last boss rn

graceful grotto
shell hazel
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ziz is chapter 40

flat rock
#

Shit its ziz

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My bad

shell hazel
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and that is before the treasure, I mainly need to cp pad as they're core max and + 31 sync now (was 30)

mystic rain
#

are u also using bay in champs

shell hazel
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I am not and prob won't

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but if I have her built I have the option to

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my nero/moran is well built so don't need bay for that

mystic rain
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bay in sg rosanna team hmmz

shell hazel
#

I've seen people do that

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but I run xanne there

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it's a flex spot anyway

mystic rain
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one day i will run tviper tpoli in sg rosanna team

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one day

shell hazel
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not sure I'll bother to build tpoli now I have xanne

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but maybe if I'm bored at some point haha

shell hazel
#

it's weird that viper is the one I'm furthest from of all

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since I don't even have her let alone 2LB ๐Ÿ˜„

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I think I have enough dupes to treasure all other possible treasure units if not already done, even if some are only just about 2LB

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I'll stop getting rapu probably at MLB, maybe same for Scar

crystal flicker
#

Whel

mystic rain
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im same with viper acctually

shell hazel
#

whel whel whel pepehmmm

mystic rain
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i dont have her yet but i do have 400 mileage

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wait is she even in the mileage shop

shell hazel
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ummm don't think so? ๐Ÿ˜„

mystic rain
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oh no

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welp

shell hazel
#

doesn't seem that she is in the list lol

mystic rain
#

im going to k word myself

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

sponsor an enemy today

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for just $5 per month

tropic summit
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or rather think about it this way: "k-wording yourself would be helping them"

turbid oyster
#

what OL effect should scarlet have for arena ?

tropic summit
shell hazel
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drunk scar? one ammo roll with 60% or less is also decent

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more ammo rolls can brick you in arena

crystal flicker
shell hazel
#

it's weird lol

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I dunno if I can montage it

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i'll try and just upload my slow cindy matches but most didn't go as planned lol

turbid oyster
shell hazel
#

94 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

turbid oyster
shell hazel
turbid oyster
#

so the attack is mandetory ?

shell hazel
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my scar rolls, basically there but I need to add a good line 2/1 combo to the helm

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I think you need atk on all 4 pieces yes

turbid oyster
#

oh ok

shell hazel
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you can roll the ammo to atk or you can lock the 3rd line crit

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you shouldn't need/want too much ele

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mine still needs work and some roll improvements

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atk + crit rate + flex on each piece is ideal. with flex being ele / ammo (1 roll only across all pieces) or crit dmg

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she's an expensive girl

shell hazel
#

4 prior slow cindy matches in full

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@hollow lagoon @nimble swan @cunning crown the power of friendship continues

keen vapor
dim escarp
#

damn won against Sora

keen vapor
#

Why I'd want to RNG my wins

shell hazel
umbral belfry
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@glad glade mihara DoT didn't go off on rh LMAOOO

tropic summit
#

@umbral crown easy money

mystic rain
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i gotta keep going to make them suffer

shell hazel
#

we need to have the records of the matches Rail pepehmmm

tropic summit
#

eh not really it was a stomp as i expected

#

invest diffed on 4 teams out of 5

keen vapor
tropic summit
#

which is fine, it would be strange if it didn't pain

keen vapor
tropic summit
#

i'm building pve as my pvp is essentially done minus vesti

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slow cindy retained perfect win ratio at least

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the only win KEKW

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@umbral crown you against this guy next, he swiped RapunzelCursed

keen vapor
#

NoahCat Cindy Red Hood

tropic summit
#

that spot should be midhara but again, i don't invest in CA

keen vapor
#

What you did to your Mihara

tropic summit
#

she's lvl 1 PrettySmile

umbral belfry
keen vapor
tropic summit
hollow lagoon
#

i use mihara in indivilia

umbral belfry
#

@hollow lagoon i have failed u

tropic summit
umbral belfry
#

Rng f*cked me like never before VoltKek

hollow lagoon
umbral belfry
tropic summit
umbral belfry
#

we must go rebuild AliceLove

shell hazel
#

Hime join the power of friendship to help carry me to top 8 prayge

glad meteor
hollow lagoon
umbral belfry
tropic summit
glad meteor
tropic summit
#

and their very copy pasted lineups

umbral belfry
#

at least we lost together

tropic summit
#

you were close tho

glad meteor
#

Welp. I got some wins with my scarless mediocre pvp invest

umbral belfry
glad meteor
glad meteor
tropic summit
#

get hime to nurse you back to health

umbral belfry
#

I'm too busy arthurfist at mihara rn

tropic summit
#

she deals with animals and this chat is full of those

umbral belfry
#

LOL

tropic summit
#

-insert ๐Ÿ’ sounds-

flat rock
#

How's this for pvp?
For now.
1: Nero,Moran,Helm,Rapunzel,Laplace
2: Scarlet,Blanc,RH,Trina,Jackal
3:Noah,Noise,Biscuit,AnisSummer,Anis

shell hazel
#

if your pvp invest was like you showed earlier than I fail to see how you run nero and moran etc ๐Ÿ˜„

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cp pad with pve and build the core units out like I suggested - you'll just get gapped

shell hazel
#

your 330 sync pvp team was half the sync of your pve team - your pve team would win

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so your pvp version offers no opposition

flat rock
#

Thanks

shell hazel
#

build jackal/helmt then you can run at least one somewhat sensible RL speed team

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my next matches pepehmmm
I'm def/top

flat rock
#

For future references, where do you get your data/guides from.
I only know from prywden, dotgg.

shell hazel
#

t1 - think I lose this, noise likely quick enough to b1 unless my scar gets mega lucky with crits
t2 - they're 2RL but helmT main burst will get stuck on p5 rumani. I could take this just by being slower and still bursting in time. Mihara very dead to ros/helmT.
t3 - I should win by chomping the stall comp from reverse their rapu/quiry no real invest
t4 - stall comp I think has a favourable chance against slow mihara blanc?
t5 - don't see how I lose this one noise is linked to jackal
L | ? | W | W? | W

shell hazel
crystal flicker
#

I won't check my result only for losing pepehmmm

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I can check it tomorrow when my Suisei's merch arrived so if I lost it doesn't matter

mystic rain
#

coping for my moran b1 to tank scar b3 but its close

crystal flicker
#

Should be able

shell hazel
#

mine failed as you could see on my recordings :9

crystal flicker
#

Stall only lose to Crit or Blanc RH

shell hazel
#

I mean it was quick enough but she died lol

mystic rain
#

urs was pretty slow

shell hazel
#

hmm?

mystic rain
#

the first match

#

oh wait that was enemy

shell hazel
#

yeah

#

the way the matches are presented makes it hard to tell, all zooming about with close ups lol

#

my match 4 sorry was stall loss to scar

crystal flicker
#

Your stall just weak

#

I have that matchup yesterday and won

mystic rain
#

mine will lose then

shell hazel
#

all SR-15 and nero is 10/10/7, Moran is 10/10/10 as is HelmT

placid bloom
#

looking at their HP they almost all died, except Centi clueless

mystic rain
#

maybe his scar had x4 ele

#

if not then ur core 6 helm would have survived

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and she burst and u win

shell hazel
#

I'm missing one CS roll for HelmT to speed up my b2 a bit

#

it's like 15% CS here

mystic rain
crystal flicker
#

Need Ele for La+

shell hazel
#

I'll probably switch LapT and xMaiden position next time

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xmaiden as a defender may actually survive the scar nuke and b3

placid bloom
#

or if your ele dmg was fatter you can just kill links through ele advantage Scar clueless

#

they are only 13% HP left

shell hazel
#

my lapT rolls aren't great

#

she has decent enough CS but rest is lacking

#

work in progress as is a lot of my OL rolls tbh

placid bloom
#

you can even tap Trina, 7% HP left

#

then they would burst Centi

shell hazel
#

I think they got a bit lucky to win that, oh well, I still won the overall one ๐Ÿ˜›

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I think I have a reasonable shot at top 8 given the next matches, but I expect some tough competition in top 8

#

although match 3 will be a little tougher I overlooked the fact that the rapu has SR-15 at p5

mystic rain
#

this was mine

#

i made mistake on my scar blanc team theyre 3.5RL apparently KEKW

#

and my sg rosanna team not beating full sr15 scar jackal lmao

placid bloom
#

nah it doesn't really matter if Rapu has SR15, they always drop speed after she dies and there's no Mana revive with Ros

shell hazel
#

yeah ros removes the buff as I recall

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so if I can kill rapu (should be able to) then the rest can snowball a bit

#

rapu dies, mana doesn't res, ros kills mana (I think as highest atk left?) and quiry is real low invest

placid bloom
#

Mana should get one-shot and then they're down to 1 healer

shell hazel
#

that's them, this one is me

placid bloom
#

that definitely doesn't work

mystic rain
#

that moran team kinda slow

placid bloom
#

Moran into XAnne also not fanastic either because of the high Atk buff to get over her Def

#

unless your XAnne burst low level

mystic rain
#

are u atk sg or def sg

shell hazel
#

shes min invest 4/4/7 atm

placid bloom
#

but you're also getting fat Atk buff from Drake

shell hazel
placid bloom
#

so it's fine

mystic rain
#

u win

shell hazel
#

I think so also prayge

glad glade
mystic rain
#

enemy isnt even bursting moran till u kill rapu u have more than enough time to kill even sr15 rapu

placid bloom
#

well Rapu should be dead by 1RL anyway

#

I don't think she survives 3 volleys

mystic rain
#

yea

placid bloom
#

Quiry should die in 1 volley

mystic rain
#

rapu p5 is grief imo

placid bloom
#

so 2 dead pre-2RL

glad glade
#

@umbral belfry also, NOOOOOOOOO. You didnโ€™t make it sadge

shell hazel
#

i'll make sure to upload the matches tomorrow, but yeah top 8 looking quite stacked haha, like hitting the boss stages ๐Ÿ˜›

umbral belfry
#

and grats on making it!

wicked horizon
#

I'm winning poggies

mystic rain
#

@swift mango isnt the umbra guy here lmao

glad glade
#

Thats actually kind of impressive ๐Ÿ’€

umbral belfry
#

I've never been so screwed by rng in my life LOOOOOOL

placid bloom
glad meteor
umbral belfry
glad meteor
#

Cindy anni was hell NoahCry

umbral belfry
#

okie i gotta go to work now. gl ket!

glad glade
glad glade
nimble swan
cunning crown
mystic rain
#

kinda close

gritty ridge
#

Chat how does nero moran do against sg

glad meteor
#

Invested sgs win. 3sg+ unless core diffed

#

Also depends in positioning

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
#

I'll record sec

shell hazel
#

so far...

glad meteor
#

My slow Cindy is undefeated if Iโ€™m not mistaken

shell hazel
#

that is my t2, where I posted the montage earlier

umbral belfry
#

@glad glade poggies

#

easiest cheer of my life

glad glade
#

Holy moly!

cunning crown
glad glade
#

Iโ€™ll probably lose, but Iโ€™ll do my best

shell hazel
#

yeah I need to invest her a bit more tbh but resources HappyAnne

#

I don't think she needs super heavy invest but if she's got OL and some doll levels she'll be a bit tankier and such

umbral belfry
shell hazel
#

my goal is basic OL + SR-5

swift mango
umbral belfry
pastel narwhal
umbral crown
#

I dis bet for you hoping i would lose, there went my loser frame to next season hmmz

umbral crown
swift mango
umbral crown
shell hazel
umbral crown
#

At much i could win 3-2

#

Or lose 2-3

#

Sadly my scar is not facing his nero team

#

Fatima has all CA units C7 but im not afraid of that

shell hazel
#

just a casual whale, teach them a lesson pepehmmm

umbral crown
#

My cindy team facing his nero team

#

But will try my best

violet spoke
#

Do you guys think this gambit of a scrap team could have won had i swapped laplace and noise (less health and def than laplace)

#

Noise dies about ~10 bullets b4 siren stun

swift mango
#

Idk wtf happened when I'm not looking hit it's okay I guess. Uoh

#

Idk if I should purposely lose next time I hit him so I have more chance to test team. NovelHmm
Guess we should all do it the Keripo way in the end.

shell hazel
#

skill issued attackers pepehmmm

swift mango
#

But his DEF team isn't that valuable to test...

gritty ridge
swift mango
gritty ridge
#

I like that siren can stun siren consistently

shell hazel
#

going for the loser frame so giving my opponent a boost

swift mango
#

@umbral crown Hey look it's you best friendo, Besti! I only do this chart because it was Besti. ZizBorgar

left charm
#

is sanis still good in current pvp meat?

placid bloom
#

if you're new she's okay, if you're old no

left charm
placid bloom
#

VestiTU

shell hazel
#

how is the carl neeko war of 2025 going? ๐Ÿ˜„

swift mango
#

I should have 200 pulls for the October Collab. Statistically speaking I should get all 4 banner limits but know my look I'm probably cooked. pain

shell hazel
#

there's 4 banner units? ShiftyDed

gritty ridge
#

Wait we're getting 4 more units?

shell hazel
#

bigboi I need a loan

#

from personal trainer to personal finance

#

how does that sound!? NoahCat

wind kelp
#

Ooh we have a new target, the 4th in our SPA has been away for 42 days, and today ran some random teams and won 1 of the 3. Which means it's doable ๐Ÿ˜„ Have to wait for reset and then pop the enemy info here.

shell hazel
#

they're 4th and offline for 42 days?

wind kelp
#

Yeah, just been chilling there untouched ๐Ÿ˜„

shell hazel
#

weird would assume someone would pounce on em

wind kelp
#

I've been trying hmmz

#

A lot of our current setup is "top 4 just sit there" and usually when someone tries to fight, me for example, they either win, or they stop trying. Most action i think happens between 5th and below 6th.

shell hazel
#

me meanwhile

keen vapor
wind kelp
keen vapor
#

Oh well, C9+10 also gets attacked by diamond daily

wind kelp
#

To be fair, this C6 aka me, has "some" backup from this channel cooks ๐Ÿ˜„

keen vapor
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Now, how to cook Woogie's defense pepehmmm

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Hello whats unit position for team mihara blanc biscuit rumani cindy?

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Team aren't very good now with Vesti around.

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Isn't midhara suppose to die? Why she in middle

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I looks like a brainless whale randomly throw high cp character in sp arena now

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