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Like the one I sent earlier with S doro and S anis
1 sg unit probably not going to be fatal, but several with good rolls will eat you in reverse lol
you can take advantage of that though if you know it's coming
biscuit locked defenders in p1/p5
or jackal links in p1/p2/p5
Ngl Idk what that means
let me do a couple of quick examples
Yes please
jackal links with two highest attackers on the team
as in highest atk stat value
this is a fairly traditional 2RL jackal link scar comp

jackal would likely link with scarlet + rh + herself
the link is damage share, so anyone who is hit on the link just shares the damage out
opponent sg hitting jackal at p5? no problem, her health is pooled with scarlet + rh
So instead of having to kill just Jackal, sg would have to kill jackal, rh, and scarlet I see
normal SG comp will likely lose to this team unless it's super well built
So it doesnt have to be just jackal in p5, it just has to be her or one of the two with the highest atk
scarlet counter attacks anyone who attacks her - on jackal link this includes anyone who hits the linked units
Also why you can space them out like that to take advantage of the fact that p1 is targeted a lot as well as p5
auto burst as we mentioned before
if you put RH at p2 then she'll b2 instead of trina
if you put jackal at p1 then RH does not get to p1 (no atk buff)
in this team the burst order is RH B1 > Trina B2 > Scarlet B3
Ah I see. I was thinking why not put rh there since if splash dmg can affect p2, you can soak up some more with link
also this is somewhat glass cannon tbh, you live or die by scarlet nuke working
trina can die once she's burst
is that also why you would want her to be on jackal link? Scarlet I mean
yes it's pretty crucial
Man I dont have scarlet or red hood
trina also makes scarlet immune for a bit - 0 damage taken = 0 damage to share
Right you havent gone over that yet
biscuit stops defenders dying for a few seconds when they lose hp
so whether opponent hits crown or rumani, no one will die on the flanks
don't usually rec running crown though tbh, she's slow
Do you have TU absolute trio?
just an example anyway
but you can build a team that is tanky with just a biscuit and some defenders, or a defender at p1 to tank for you as a pseudo-tank
I guess going back to this one. Lemme make a team and could you give me pointers? Ill send my roster over too
not a question for me right? I know they can work pretty well if built
I only pulled Vesti as I simply needed to save for upcoming banners ๐
Of course, not to you
rest will wishlist for later
Right now this is round of 32 match of mine. what would be score?
Left is attack.
I predict right left left right.
Would it be correct?
man baby cp units ๐
yeah baby arena 
right should win top but my only concern is scarlet having no jackal means she can get insta-killed by SG's when her immunity runs out
but all the SG's are low cp
I know my cp is abysmal but I wanted feedback moreso on the team comping aspect
This is my roster btw
I'd go R L L L (last one is SBS indom into biscuit)
2nd one I think they may only win as stall comp is baby invested
Wait I think I made a mistake not putting SBS as p1. make that mental switch
but 3rd one has super weak double buffed scar
hard to call the baby bracket matches as a lot of uninvested units just relying on comp
so 2:2 right?
I favour left
hmm. why don't you put blanc?
Me?
2RL is good but B3 at p1 would get stunned by opponent siren, meaning helm will burst
yes. because your cp is far behind. that's why.
Ah when I tried Blanc, I got a lower RL%
other issue I see here is who links? you have too many potential links I reckon
It would be SBS and Siren
My siren is stronger than helm but lemme check their stats
jackal SBS blanc trina helmT.
Ah I see
best method is going into a mock battle and checking who gets jackal link buff
Ah CP issue.
Wait you can do mock battles?
is there?
Ah i see
like kraken mock battle
Ok, I'll try it thanks for the help
ah. like union shooting range
np, built vesti up if you can, she'd replace ein here for main nuker
but your Ein looks strong enough to present a threat and doesn't lose to biscuit like SBS does
That's amogus
711 should be in my group
you can only b1 at p1 if you're fast enough to avoid it, or you lack better options
Man I wish I had more mats to invest in pvp units. I can barely afford to keep my campaign units built
opponent cp * 0.846 = your min recommended cp
below this point you eat stat deficits
I see I see
@shell hazel From my roster, who would you build against that comp?
run jackal instead of rumani
you could then drop biscuit and just have linked units p1/p5
biscuit will tank your CP too much here without being built
Should I just throw in my highest cp unit?
Hippo farming exp to turn red
My Absolute squad is nowhere near being fully built
I am back in diamond 3 now at least for the time being so I appreciate all the help
How is this?
np, attack teams you may need to change what you send to where
Iโll work on OLing Scarlet and getting that last piece on Vesti along with getting those other RLs OLโd namely noise
that should win, just swap siren to p1 (jackal links her right?)
If I switch cindy for sbs, i have better RL
I need to test
sounds good, noise would be a better swap in for rouge on that cindy team
vesti would be a great general addition, I'd argue a higher priority than scarlet
Alright I'll make that priority 1 then
And if I swap cindy for sbs I also get about 12k more cp
vesti also gives you good attack options
cindy is a better general nuker than SBS imo, you're above cp min anyway
lemme test jackal link rq
you suffer 0% penalty below the min rec
hand it over
Over my cold dead hands 
Jackal link is Siren and Helm

so yeah siren at p1, also crown is a bit safer at p2
never run cindy at p1 or p2 unless you know what you're doing
If Crown is gonna be P2, would it better to swap her with someone else since you said shes pretty slow?
You know what you're doing
commit and send it
their team is like 8RL, your 3RL cindy should wipe the floor with them
don't quick battle watch it play out
record to send here if you want ๐
Oh my god I creamed them
,.. I didnt think to record. Lemme find him again and cream him again
Who the hell upload video as attachments
Brooo chill. Lemme try again
it's fine haha I saw it
My bay too weak
jackal a bit low but it worked out, can hopefully see how you invest jackal a bit more to make her tankier
Yea I was a little worried the first time watching her hp
if she died then siren would still burst
the link is severed when jackal dies
redunancy is nice to do when you can, more than 1 option to b1 etc
Yknow I asked for spa cooks a few days ago and still no dice
https://streamable.com/7ltm8c 
777 bay can't defend against cindy burst @tropic summit
Im so tempted to see if I can cook this guy, but I take way too long to make one team lmao. minimum cp is about 225k cp which i think I can hit, but idk. It would suck to spend a bunch of time making a team only to find out I dont have enough cp

I thought by "not strong enough" she blocks somethin but dies after
she didnt even block 
Bay was never built to fight Cindy
Her cover gets reduced though
this is using like 4 of your top 6 CP units, jackal will be dragging you down a bit
you can still win at a bit of a deficit though I'd swap jackal/siren position because jackal is dying
Damn youre right. I tried switching crown for anyone else and its really Jackal keeping me from breaking 220k cp
Lmao im gonna send it
you could send this order I just put
Oh okay lemme do that
ye but the team just burst late, not her being "not strong" 
Ill record this one too
Does she need to enter FB first?
ya ser your chance to win higher instead of taking hit first, shared by jack too 
deficit do start to hurt though ๐
Yea I just barely eked it out
no one solution for all problems btw but best approach is to analyse opponent team, and see if you have the right speed/cp/comp to beat it
Im competing against these guys. Joey and Shepard got no right to be here
having jackal somewhat built helps a lot as she's useful as b1 battery for any team
Should I give her Quantam cube?
speaking of built jackal, does anything need to be beyond level 4 for skills?
no not really, I do anyway for CP
she works just fine at 4/4/4 - mine is 7/7/7 for cp pad
@violet spoke I advise to not hit C5 until Check does it. XP seems to have given up on my def, which unfortunately is using both Rosanna and Mihara 
alright off to sleep, hopefully you had some fun @magic viper and can cook some of your own team ideas as well ๐
it's good xp to try stuff and see what can work, especially in rookie
After using my last attempt, I just know Im gonna wake up and one of these guys is gonna stomp me out to top 10 or something
prio campaign units but build jackal/biscuit/noah to give you defensive options
if opponent is 2RL scar/cindy comp you'd want 2RL noah
Thanks for your help! I learned a lot
Well, there should be like 10 of this guy around in my bracket. No worry.
The rest aren't that high.
Do i have any chance of even beating 1 of radekis teams or is this meme dreams
** SP Defense**
Scarlet/LaplaceT/Siren/Trina/Jackal
Blanc/VestiT/HelmT/Biscuit/Rumani
Rapipi/Noah/Cinderella/SBS/Mana
@deep summitdid you get help with sp defense?
Yeah I got help, have some units to work on before I can make something more solid but have something for now
nice, glad to know
told ya, games hates everyone equally 
We gonna trust the process
Surely there no way one can go the entire week of solo raid and not get a single battery they need

Ina tomorrow 
you bursted too late, you need to be bursting when cindy snapshot lands
they're already on B3 (and cindy nuke is delayed) while you're not even done stunning
doesn't really help the fact you're linked with a water code tho, you get ele damage aswell distributed
I know the friendo @vapid barn who watched Love Live Sunshine will understand the reference with 98
I remember a certain someone saying they'd cook me teams
Do you
I do
I remember certain someone who was going to write a guide
I hope he's progressing
Wait, that certain someone was me 
I must write something
But the YouTube videos 
I did. 
Cindy burst before your Bay burst. 
I will write a guide when I win CA 4th time. 
Basically never.
Maybe it hates me a bit more than others. 
Maybe next month
just help the locals a bit more
Help me brother. 
I just dont know where to apply if im being honest
You didn't 
Is #modmail
Extra extra. MA Echo refuses to help the locals.

I can't help 3 times champion, what will I provide 
Idk surprise me. 
Build me CA team without Rapu. 
Nero Bay Treasure Helm Mana Moran 
Echo what if you built me 2 good spa teams that are over 300k cp
300k 
Im a baby dont booly
Echo, give me a nikke with over 300k cp pls. 
I don't even have one myself 
trying it out now. the battle rages on. he choked with one of his attacks earlier. not sure what he did
Well, if you're looking for a team, try this out
Blanc takes the brunt of the damage then gets invincibility from Biscuit
Vesti-TU absorbs any splash damage making her HP the lowest
During burst, Vesti-TU gets immortality and a massive increase in explosion range, letting her take out everyone
However, because she has the highest Atk, she's vulnerable to Rosanna
Who is that for?
i've tried that exact comp already and it was beaten on defense. if that was for me
That team can immediately be improved by using the jackal indom variant
Faster and isnt siren susceptible
Will bay 20%cs help?
So that's why some of her dmg breached it
Probably skipping one of the teams
what's the reasoning for rapi? curious what she provides for pvp
Ele advantage over eletric and wind units and works as B1 buffer
how did I do in making special arena teams?
Scarlet, Rosanna, Red Hood, Noir, Drake
Rumani, Centi, Cinderella, Rapunzel, Biscuit
Pepper, Maid Anchor, Anis, S Anis, SBS
These teams aren't the greatest if im being honest, at your sync its usually better to make 2 good teams and 1 cp team
CP would be like ...
Rapipi, Liter, Crown, SBS, RH?
Cp team would be your 5 highest power nikke left over after your other 2 teams
The biggest issue im seeing right now is you have no good pvp b2
Youre missing blanc, bay, noah, and trina
Yup. oh no wait, I do have bay on this account
no treasure helm yet, but it's getting there (unrelated)
Oh I see, bay is hiding in the bottom
Do we not run Rosanna teams anymore? is that a 2024 team
am i doing this right
Rosanna requires heavy investment
Like Alice level of heavy
On my second account I played during the second anniversary, and then took a break
Quency ain't limited Bigboi 
aww nuts
Takes a long time to get, and they're only 160. They also have limited rapu
Ah, that 
Rapu was last available at either new years or 2nd anni iirc
Yes 
Well, Noah might die there on second picture, not sure
Can we do like ... Scarlet, Maid Anchor, Centi, S Anis, Noir?
Second anni, almost a full year ago
That is a very large break, would take leviathan activities to catch up
Scarlet in p1 needs trina or jackal
For CP team? Yes
Actual team.... Missing B1
Also what echo said
damn it
For every team, start with the bursts you wanna use then fill in
And said bursts must bring survivability, and hopefully damage buffing
Your biggest issue is b2 like I said earlier
You only have 1 and its bay
Manchor can work in cope teams or sg team, but ideally you wouldnt use her
A cope team defeated me today in CA 
Rumani, Centi, Noir, S Anis, Scarlet?
Swap positions and drop scarlet for biscuit
Rumani, sanis, biscuit, noir, centi
Bigboi you forgot Noir bricks Summer Anis :doro wut da hel:
Ah ur right
Drake?
With treasure is also ๐งฑ
Their drake is untreasured
No treasure
safe
Echo do you see moran in their roster?
no she's not there
No 

Rapunzel, Anis, Cinderella, Red Hood, Scarlet?
Why do you keep adding offburst scarlet
Rapunzel, Anis, Cinderella, Scarlet, Red Hood?
well, that indeed will be in burst on PvE

Its a weird roster im working with dont booly
Noir buffs scarlet by ammo count, grave is decent gen with decent buffs
Can use crown but its slower
Ammo what ?
I said wrong name
so that does leave us with the cp team
Rapipi, Liter, Crown, SBS, RH
I think it won't matter to use Crown here 
With the grave team theres a chance of bump to 2.5 with counter rng+feed
Crown is a higher base buff than grave, ive also seen her shield somewhat work
Scarlet's skill 2 don't really provide that much gen 
9% feed not viable?
Well it was a very weird roster, with very weird options, so appreciate both of you looking at it and working with it. thank you very much
Go with the crown version if you wanna use those 2
Not without jackal
I see, thx brochacho
Btw, do you have any suggestions other than those 2 teams?
@dusty estuary alternative version
Damn that's fast. thank you very much!

do i swap noise and position?
Whoever has taunt priority goes in p1
Well, depends really
Either Noah or Noise have charge speed lines?

Can Treasure Poli survive shotgun defense team at P5 slot until 5SG timing?
Uuuuuhhh I doubt she will keep Indom if facing 3-4 SGs
Shes close
Is it worth upgrading pvp units with blue R dolls?
i only level up purples
This account is going to be at the level 160 wall for awhile. And it isnt exactly raining SR dolls, so its either blue doll or nothing. But like, stats wise, is it worth it
might as well be walled for a while
Like a level 15 R doll gives pretty comparable stats to a level 5 SR doll
thats basically what your purple doll starts at when you replace your blue doll
Put on blue doll > use blues to r5>r10>r15 > exchange r15 for sr5
I sr5 my pvp units personally 
Some niche units want sr15 depending on comp
At low sync dolls are strong stats, the higher the sync, the less doll stats matter 
Yea that's why i used to sr5 comparison. Ok that makes sense thank you kindly
Should I tell him 
wtf 3S
what's a good Nero Moran team(s)?
Would this 3/3?
For team 1 ur gonna get outsped
Their scarlet burst will go off before yours
For team 2 you are also gonna get outsped
But maybe Blanc will save it for you
Team 3 you would beat them
Any Arena experts who can advise me? I'm still very new to this mode. I think my teams 1 and 2 are "okay," but I'm not sure about the third. I only put characters I had on my roster that, according to the tier list, are good in Arena.
2nd team is fine, probably swap humanity from 3rd team to team 1 and swap with sbs
Move humanity to outside
Humanity = rumani
Sp team please
Neon have max level sr doll, i think she can tank a bit longer
Oh yeah, i also just got bade and bmilk after take this screenshot
okay, so change exchange teams rumani from SCS is that correct?
like this?
Yeah but that Blanc team is kinda iffy
Idk who else you hvae
lmao I just notice that I dont had burst I there lol
Probably better off taking sanis out of the Blanc team and putting in more burst gen chara
Bay could get pulled too
And naga
Anis would be good for burst gen but idk the cp gap on her
Oh you have vesti
That would be better than sbs
VesTac RH Blanc
Give MAnchor doll, and T3 is cp pad
Thanks
is it possible to make a full 2 rl sp team?
Yes 


Hi.
Hope all are well.
Kindly any assistance for pvp( special and normal arena)
This is my roster and current setup( attack and defence is the same).
Tried looking up some pvp guides but lack some of the mentioned core units.
So was wondering if there are any better setups.
Thanks alot.
Any input is highly appreciated.
I feel like 256K power at sync 330 is very low. what do you get if you "auto" a team cp wise?
this was my team at 330 lol
i am pvp main invest as well my team doesnt even come close to 500k
256k power with pvp units though is suicide at these levels
better off cp pad pve team if it's like half the power otherwise
oh that guy yea thats seriously low
it's why I want to know what auto spits out
probably naked noise rapu noah jackal
not even sr5 dolls yet on his pvp units i doubt he has them full OL
yes looks like, without invest need to wait and power up or at most use them sparingly because cp gap is a worse pain
sort of hah, my helm has very high CP, highest on my account. makes up a lot of diff
500k thats all 5 units at 100k cp each
thats a lot
my pvp units are only averaging at 70-80k cp
+10k cp if sr15
Can I take him down ?
@tropic summit
(I can change my teams)
for referencce my moran whos sr15 7-7-10 7/12 lines first roll barely breaks 90k
makes sense, maybe the dupes add up a bit as well. though I don't have any at max and my highest is helm at c6
probably adds up as well if u do that on all 5 units in a team
+3 for dps
+2/3 eventually for everyone
I mean in the end I'll +5 the main ones just a while off that yet
i cant upgrade my gear on my pvp units just yet im still finishing OL on a lot of units
gear xp sucks
yeah I've already done a lot so I can afford to upgrade the rest now, I need to OL m.mast next ;S
Like all
mast is really strong like i did test on kraken before she was sr15 and after she was sr15 and just the highger base atk for her caster buff gave my kraken team 300m more dmg
absolutely cracked
will have to see if I can do more than bay on this solo raid
mast is SR-5 at least so last couple of jumps to make
im looking to sr15/treasure laplace just so i can have more battery units i can use
that or vesti
ideally both
Mmast or mast?

yeah I did vesti already too much to build lol
mmast
Hmm, lucky i sr15 her already, i randomly put the doll to her XD
if mmast was just regular 20 sec cd instead of 40 i think she would be stronger than crown
in terms of raw dmg buffing
But on my team, her dmg not really big :0
most supports have trash personal dps
except for support units pseudo dps like siren
yeah you take her for the buff to the other units
She sometimes got hangover at worst timing 
shouldn't do if anchor is in the team 
i'm OL soda atm for random CA option for scar team, really should just have done mmast instead haha
after soda I think it's mainly xanne I need to do some OL for, but she done OK so far in CA with no doll levels and no OL
have u heard of scar trina mast tech
xanne barely used nowadays
she's flex b2 for my sg comp
no 
mast actually quite good. But surprisingly not used in EN at all
Seems like a CN(?) preference
i have her on wishlist now just so i can try her out in champs
mast? wait old mast or new one?
old mast
I wouldn't really want to build old mast I think
I'd just run soda instead more fun watching the rng stun



Dont need Soda anymore. Running Mast means u need stacked Scar
o yea soda is the flex slot
soda has low gen
the idea is to kill enemy team with scar s2 before burst with crits
blanc with no biscuit team would probably just die to this
i think rosanna also kills herself to this team before b1 lmao
ros breaks link, she might die but not if not then your scar is dead
3rl is probably too slow, you'll lose to 2RL scar
plus soda giga feeding
yea that why i said soda is flex slot
too slow for flex spot
chop an anis in and you're back to 2RL
to me mast feels like the flex spot here really
scar trina flex clipRL jackal
i mean if u jus wanna 2RL nuke then just run trina rh scar
I got my team comp, but.. how to read this, what is rl and the persentage, also why mana have book

what does mast do that makes this version better than the normal 2RL?
higher kill potential vs tank teams
its also risky-er cuz ur relying more on scar s2
and crits
does mast boost scar s2 somehow? otherwise it feels like same as normal scar will s2 either way
tho this still wouldnt work vs uhhh noah and biscuit teams in general
havent seen how this team runs vs noise b1 but vs nero teams, nero dies before burst
but how is mast making that possible? I know nothing about basic mast kit
so she boosts crit whilst being off-burst?
yep
if mast is linked then she can proc her s1 reliably
which means more crit
s2 buff acticvates at start so ๐คท
I haven't seen anyone running this comp yet in our CA brackets
Mana s10, and 1rl 2rl etc is how fast your comp
yea its mostly CN
it's new/differrent I guess but may have some downsides also
i think NA is running it as well like a few
I think I saw a vid where it loses to
noise noah rumani biscuit cindy
simply because scar counter took down cindy HP to half and proc biscuit

yea noah teams usually would just counter scar teams anyway
if same speed
if its 2RL scar vs noise 3RL i think its still close
if noise can b1 before scar b3 scar would still lose
so its like ๐คท
can u 2RL on all 3 teams
ohhhh idk how scar trina mast would do vs scar trina 2RL tho
If you fighting P1 or P2 Scar, Noah will debuff her atk
ur fighting vs noah teams with lvl10 s2?
or rather u have noah with s2 max?
1 stack completely negates noah s2 btw
and u can stack 3 if u have 30 ammo
by 2RL
Are you sure debuff will just reduce atk buff
Coz theres a time where my Scarlet Trina failed to nuke Cindy Noah from that debuff
unless im missing something
or u think 8% dmg taken reduction is enough to mitigate scar trina
but that also begs the question: who even maxes out noah s1 and s2
what kinda leviathans are u fighting
Consistent
If we're talking about Leviathan, he's 56 sync above me
then thats probably just deficit
Where the quatums and cs
feom my experience, the only bursts that can tank scar b3 even with trina is noise, noah, moran
as long as u can match noise noah or moran burst BEFORE scar b3 i think ur safe
Bay
it's one reason I'm building my Bay, been a useful attacking tool for scar 2RL
frees up Noah for another team
same speed should be good
2RL to 2RL and you're quick enough, only hyper-invested scar comps with CS when you have none should beat you then
you only need to beat 2 if talking about attacking
oh i was talking abt defending XDD
I don't care to necessarily try to 3/3 against my +30 sync whale with max cores
yeah bay isn't great on def anyway in my view
Most likely low due to long periods of inactivity like more then a year or so
Yup pve team is at 550k
So.....
you should run pve cp pad teams for now, your pvp units would need more cp to be usable
build jackal first
SR-5
4/4/4 skills
4 OL (+0 is fine) with rock added for cp/stats
once jackal is ready and close to CP of your other units you can sub her in for someone
I see thanks alot let try doing that
one jackal is ready build Noah if you have her
then Biscuit
same thing, SR-5, basic skill levels, basic overloads
sub each in as they are ready, Noah should be primary b2 on her team
then look at blanc / rumani / centi / trina for general purpose units if you can spare the resources
should max out your Helm treasure as well she's very good for both pve and pvp
I can build have lots of mats.
Just gears might be an issues ...
Yeah currently maxing her out as much as possible.
overload is a requirement more or less on all 4 pieces, just to the basic level
but it takes a while, a week or so per unit I find
you're 3RL with just jackal and helmT let alone whatever other b2 or other units you run lol
Let me cook something then
Yeah just want to finish building thelm and anchor maid for the last boss for normal campaign.
As my current team can't clear that boss( crown, liter, rh, rrh, naga...550k) or skill issue.
who is winning this?
Hello guys! How to beat this team?
2rl indom team would work
this team was my counter against 2RL indo
Really?
jackal siren noah besti helm
yeap, helmT burst + noise heal + noah
Vesti should be able to break through
Damn i dont invest in Besti yet :\
but if indo with vestiTU maybe can work
Siren isnt helping here
you could try Soda + scar 2RL
could replace with biscuit or something then
i just have siren there so that they can't keep healing and get stunned
it's still 2rl
Siren is big feed assuming noise is linked tho
Blanc mihara rumani biscuit cindy
what in the devil
lmao

Why are you suggesting slow cindy
Itโs popular ca team 
Man, I almost miss the cheer 
who used that team in CA?
Itโs 2rl noah and single target p1

I know a couple people personally 
Agent Eon
-# idek what team we talking about
i mean against a 2RL nuke with no protection, sure
Also beats noah cindy
but against a Noah (protection) + Noise and HelmT (heal)

Noah is too fast 
mihara would apply dot to counteract heal but slow cindy should nuke fast noah
Helm would kill mihara, then after Noah protection is out cindy bursts
This team is specifically made to counter 2rl noah
thats generally how u fight fast noah teams, u either stall with indom to outlast noah invul or wait out noah invul to nuke them afterwards
It would probably work assuming they have mihara invested
mihara is just a bonus
Yep
its how u fight fast cindy teams as well cuz usually slower cindy would win a mirror matchup
You could also nero moran
And mihara guaranteed to be killed by helm
Only attacker in team
Unless people building atk ol biscuit 
Thats why I said invested mihara tho, cuz what if cindy is highest attack
Hits cindy decoy 
But that would be interesting
4 atk ol cindy isnt uncommon tbf
I actually didn't know if cindy decoy could eat helm nuke, cuz scar goes through decoy
still
Scar is aoe
it's hard for cindy to out-attack miharara tho
my miharara is like 50% more dmg than cindy when cindy has 4 OL stats with atk and miharara only has 1/2
if your helmT is built you can swap in for Naga and then occasionally her burst does life leech to massively heal you up through things
I am 
Yeah that's the plan then... really have to catch up to these new features after the long break
holy cdr team
Poison is the issue mostly

poison???
i see SR15 biscuit but not SR15 miharara
ur fighting ziz no?
the pvp dedication is real
I think cindy p1 version may be better tbh, I've burst with mihara like 3 times now in 4 matches lol
or did u mean snake
out of doll mats atm, I plan to do them all to SR-15 when I can
also need to finish Bay (R-5 lol)
I will use mihara in raids and such too
Black snake???
what chapter are you on?
u said last boss for normal campaign
normal ends at chapter 40 now
Last
ziz is the last boss rn
hmmm Bay SR15 is tempting for her treasure but outside of CP padding and some heals, it's not really worth it i guess
ziz is chapter 40
I've been finding her useful against my whale in attacks
and that is before the treasure, I mainly need to cp pad as they're core max and + 31 sync now (was 30)
are u also using bay in champs
I am not and prob won't
but if I have her built I have the option to
my nero/moran is well built so don't need bay for that
bay in sg rosanna team 
not sure I'll bother to build tpoli now I have xanne
but maybe if I'm bored at some point haha
it's weird that viper is the one I'm furthest from of all
since I don't even have her let alone 2LB ๐
I think I have enough dupes to treasure all other possible treasure units if not already done, even if some are only just about 2LB
I'll stop getting rapu probably at MLB, maybe same for Scar
Whel
im same with viper acctually
whel whel whel 
ummm don't think so? ๐
doesn't seem that she is in the list lol
im going to k word myself
don't do it, someone will benefit from that, think of your enemies
or rather think about it this way: "k-wording yourself would be helping them"
what OL effect should scarlet have for arena ?
atk%, ele atk%, crit rate
drunk scar? one ammo roll with 60% or less is also decent
more ammo rolls can brick you in arena
Please donate your body for science, thank you.
Wut are they running lol

it's weird lol
I dunno if I can montage it
i'll try and just upload my slow cindy matches but most didn't go as planned lol
i guess this is ok ?
94 ๐ฎ
had like 170 just now
so the attack is mandetory ?
my scar rolls, basically there but I need to add a good line 2/1 combo to the helm
I think you need atk on all 4 pieces yes
oh ok
you can roll the ammo to atk or you can lock the 3rd line crit
you shouldn't need/want too much ele
mine still needs work and some roll improvements
atk + crit rate + flex on each piece is ideal. with flex being ele / ammo (1 roll only across all pieces) or crit dmg
she's an expensive girl
4 prior slow cindy matches in full
@hollow lagoon @nimble swan @cunning crown the power of friendship continues
Crit rate 
damn won against Sora
Why I'd want to RNG my wins

@glad glade mihara DoT didn't go off on rh LMAOOO
aye, combos well with s2
@umbral crown easy money
u right.
i gotta keep going to make them suffer
we need to have the records of the matches Rail 

which is fine, it would be strange if it didn't 
Fake PVPer 
i don't invest in CA, it's worthless to me 
i'm building pve as my pvp is essentially done minus vesti
slow cindy retained perfect win ratio at least
the only win 
@umbral crown you against this guy next, he swiped 
Cindy Red Hood
flex attacker and B1, it's just to bait helmT sinpe
that spot should be midhara but again, i don't invest in CA
What you did to your Mihara
she's lvl 1 
interesting team
Mihara is raid unit 
it's cope, the only good aspect is that it deals with a lot of archetypes due to indom and biscuit
i use mihara in indivilia
my fire is... alice and RRH 
Rng f*cked me like never before 
i got killed before top 64 

do i look like a pve main to you
we must go rebuild 
Hime join the power of friendship to help carry me to top 8 
my alice is bad
i will use the power of friendship and homework and tell u to LOCK!!! IN!!
what do you mean, you going champion this run

it's always chinnits 
and their very copy pasted lineups
you were close tho
Welp. I got some wins with my scarless mediocre pvp invest

Vesti bay failed me

I'm too busy
at mihara rn
she deals with animals and this chat is full of those
LOL
How's this for pvp?
For now.
1: Nero,Moran,Helm,Rapunzel,Laplace
2: Scarlet,Blanc,RH,Trina,Jackal
3:Noah,Noise,Biscuit,AnisSummer,Anis
if your pvp invest was like you showed earlier than I fail to see how you run nero and moran etc ๐
cp pad with pve and build the core units out like I suggested - you'll just get gapped
I see due to investment etc....
your 330 sync pvp team was half the sync of your pve team - your pve team would win
so your pvp version offers no opposition
That makes alot of sense. That's the plan then
Thanks
build jackal/helmt then you can run at least one somewhat sensible RL speed team
my next matches 
I'm def/top
For future references, where do you get your data/guides from.
I only know from prywden, dotgg.
t1 - think I lose this, noise likely quick enough to b1 unless my scar gets mega lucky with crits
t2 - they're 2RL but helmT main burst will get stuck on p5 rumani. I could take this just by being slower and still bursting in time. Mihara very dead to ros/helmT.
t3 - I should win by chomping the stall comp from reverse their rapu/quiry no real invest
t4 - stall comp I think has a favourable chance against slow mihara blanc?
t5 - don't see how I lose this one noise is linked to jackal
L | ? | W | W? | W
railtracer
my matches if anyone wants to see. My stall comp t3 lost to scar 2RL which was surprising, but I guess the scar crit and that was that :9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYs4elm_M9g
I won't check my result only for losing 
I can check it tomorrow when my Suisei's merch arrived so if I lost it doesn't matter
coping for my moran b1 to tank scar b3 but its close
Should be able
mine failed as you could see on my recordings :9
Stall only lose to Crit or Blanc RH
I mean it was quick enough but she died lol
urs was pretty slow
hmm?
yeah
the way the matches are presented makes it hard to tell, all zooming about with close ups lol
my match 4 sorry was stall loss to scar
mine will lose then
shouldn't be but lack some dupes of nero just never really appeared for me lol
all SR-15 and nero is 10/10/7, Moran is 10/10/10 as is HelmT
looking at their HP they almost all died, except Centi 
maybe his scar had x4 ele
if not then ur core 6 helm would have survived
and she burst and u win

Need Ele for La+
I'll probably switch LapT and xMaiden position next time
xmaiden as a defender may actually survive the scar nuke and b3
or if your ele dmg was fatter you can just kill links through ele advantage Scar 
they are only 13% HP left
my lapT rolls aren't great
she has decent enough CS but rest is lacking
work in progress as is a lot of my OL rolls tbh
I think they got a bit lucky to win that, oh well, I still won the overall one ๐
I think I have a reasonable shot at top 8 given the next matches, but I expect some tough competition in top 8
although match 3 will be a little tougher I overlooked the fact that the rapu has SR-15 at p5
this was mine
i made mistake on my scar blanc team theyre 3.5RL apparently 
and my sg rosanna team not beating full sr15 scar jackal lmao
nah it doesn't really matter if Rapu has SR15, they always drop speed after she dies and there's no Mana revive with Ros
yeah ros removes the buff as I recall
so if I can kill rapu (should be able to) then the rest can snowball a bit
rapu dies, mana doesn't res, ros kills mana (I think as highest atk left?) and quiry is real low invest
Mana should get one-shot and then they're down to 1 healer
that definitely doesn't work
that moran team kinda slow
Moran into XAnne also not fanastic either because of the high Atk buff to get over her Def
unless your XAnne burst low level
are u atk sg or def sg
shes min invest 4/4/7 atm
but you're also getting fat Atk buff from Drake
def
so it's fine
u win
I think so also 
SHIT I WON. MY CHEER STREAK ๐
enemy isnt even bursting moran till u kill rapu u have more than enough time to kill even sr15 rapu
yea
Quiry should die in 1 volley
rapu p5 is grief imo
so 2 dead pre-2RL
@umbral belfry also, NOOOOOOOOO. You didnโt make it 
i'll make sure to upload the matches tomorrow, but yeah top 8 looking quite stacked haha, like hitting the boss stages ๐
did you see my t4 ๐ญ
and grats on making it!
I'm winning 
@swift mango isnt the umbra guy here lmao
Bro heโs got the luck of God
Thats actually kind of impressive ๐
I've never been so screwed by rng in my life LOOOOOOL

Thatโs my life 

Cindy anni was hell 
okie i gotta go to work now. gl ket!
Either that or Miharaโs DoT ends up sparing one unit. I remember that happening for a centi in a Scar team last season
Thanks bro. Iโm facing off against DPX. Iโve got the counters but IDK if I got the investment to beat him
Nice, we keep sending the enegy for the spirit bomb 

kinda close

I don't want to look 
Chat how does nero moran do against sg
yeah, it lost bc mihara closed her eyes and didn't DoT Rh 
lock in!!

I'll record sec
so far...
My slow Cindy is undefeated if Iโm not mistaken
that is my t2, where I posted the montage earlier
Holy moly!
anne gang holding it down
Yeah. 
Iโll probably lose, but Iโll do my best
yeah I need to invest her a bit more tbh but resources 
I don't think she needs super heavy invest but if she's got OL and some doll levels she'll be a bit tankier and such
@shell hazel 
my goal is basic OL + SR-5
Common Midhara RNG lose. 



I dis bet for you hoping i would lose, there went my loser frame to next season 
Hes been swipping everyone 5-0
time to stop them
At much i could win 3-2
Or lose 2-3
Sadly my scar is not facing his nero team

Fatima has all CA units C7 but im not afraid of that
just a casual whale, teach them a lesson 
Do you guys think this gambit of a scrap team could have won had i swapped laplace and noise (less health and def than laplace)
Noise dies about ~10 bullets b4 siren stun
Idk wtf happened when I'm not looking hit it's okay I guess. 
Idk if I should purposely lose next time I hit him so I have more chance to test team. 
Guess we should all do it the Keripo way in the end.
skill issued attackers 
But his DEF team isn't that valuable to test...
Im encroaching on the whales power
Not like this guy could do anything about it. 
I like that siren can stun siren consistently
maybe but the others probably in range
going for the loser frame so giving my opponent a boost
@umbral crown Hey look it's you best friendo, Besti! I only do this chart because it was Besti. 
is sanis still good in current pvp meat?
if you're new she's okay, if you're old no
what's the current top burst III nikke in pvp?
VestiTU
how is the carl neeko war of 2025 going? ๐
Waos
I should have 200 pulls for the October Collab. Statistically speaking I should get all 4 banner limits but know my look I'm probably cooked. 
there's 4 banner units? 
Wait we're getting 4 more units?
bigboi I need a loan
from personal trainer to personal finance
how does that sound!? 
Ooh we have a new target, the 4th in our SPA has been away for 42 days, and today ran some random teams and won 1 of the 3. Which means it's doable ๐ Have to wait for reset and then pop the enemy info here.
they're 4th and offline for 42 days?
Yeah, just been chilling there untouched ๐
weird would assume someone would pounce on em
I've been trying 
A lot of our current setup is "top 4 just sit there" and usually when someone tries to fight, me for example, they either win, or they stop trying. Most action i think happens between 5th and below 6th.
me meanwhile
In my bracket C3 to C8 changes constantly
Except for that guy at C6, nobody attacks him
we fear him
I'm "that guy" at C6 in ours XD
Oh well, C9+10 also gets attacked by diamond daily
To be fair, this C6 aka me, has "some" backup from this channel cooks ๐
Yeah, it's that period everyone has to experience once
Hello whats unit position for team mihara blanc biscuit rumani cindy?
There are a few different approaches. But for CA we need 2 defender on p1-5
For sp arena with mine cp gap enemy please
Just go with the either
Cindy+Blanc+mih+bis+Ru
Or
Rumani+Blanc+Mid+Bis+Cindy
Team aren't very good now with Vesti around.
She would die most of the time anyway. In the 2nd team you could go.
Rumani+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindu+Mihara for SpA
I looks like a brainless whale randomly throw high cp character in sp arena now

could move Trina to p4. In case she got killed by Vesti before she burst.
Congrats in advance in case you get to top 8. 






