pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

ez, french baguette too stronk

[magic viper]

Could I get some help making two teams against this guy? Ill send my roster over

[fathom rock]

Crazy winning def like that

[fathom rock]

What's the 3rd one

[tropic summit]

those look pretty easy and very slow

only thing concerning is using jackal and biscuit properly to deal with their SG pressure

[swift mango]

Crazy how you could lose to that.

[fathom rock]

Cp deficit on t3

[tropic summit]

he can run partial campaign team on that one

[swift mango]

Because he use level 1 soda.b

[fathom rock]

Cp gap rapu team use biscuit and p5 defender that's not lv1, drake will solo

[ivory mango]

I hate my life

[fathom rock]

I hope he don't spend more

[ivory mango]

ever since omni is no more I wonder if nemo joined sin cartel

[swift mango]

I think I would save to 200 rock before trying for 21+ % Emi, Helm 25% and 11%+ Vesti. That would be when I could start winning CA again.

Probably need 500 rocks for me

Or even 1000 though

[fathom rock]

You see you'll probably have 200 rocks by early-mid November and they aren't enough if you still need to get the initial lines

And nov has anni aswell

[tropic summit]

sure post your first 3-4 lines

[swift mango]

Nah with my luck I would need 1000

[placid bloom]

I need 5000 rock

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

round it up to 10k rocks to be safe

[fathom rock]

That's only 1 year!

[swift mango]

Still faster than me getting a Rapu.

[tropic summit]

on the bright side i recently got blue line ammo and black line ele on RRH on 1 piece

[placid bloom]

even if I can drop 10 rock a day from Kraken, that is only 3650 rock a year

[tropic summit]

only 3 more to go to be competitive with 1 nikke

[swift mango]

Guess I have to start buying research level now even though I'm bricking many units.

[tropic summit]

how you gonna buy it

[swift mango]

From shop.

[tropic summit]

but you're f2p

[placid bloom]

6k body label from c7 dupe

[tropic summit]

what shop are you gonna do if you're broke

[swift mango]

F2P still pulls you know.

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

last i heard you had less than 20k gems

what pulls...

[swift mango]

We are talking about body label.

[tropic summit]

and those come from...?

[placid bloom]

that reminds me, I helped my friend pull for rerun banner + bunnies. Got all 6 rerun chars + dupes on 3 of them in like 25k gems, and then got both bunnies in 10 pull each

ofc it could never be my account that has this luck

[swift mango]

No longer buying this.

[tropic summit]

dafuq u were buying that?

[fathom rock]

Imagine not saving for new mold

[tropic summit]

you were buying belorta over and over?

the madness

[swift mango]

Nah I won't buy new molds as well.

[rocky orchid]

You're not supposed to buy those?...

[fathom rock]

F2p buying Console

[swift mango]

I got gapped by 100 research level each now.

[tropic summit]

look at all these beautiful belorta-to-be

i can count 15 belorta in there

when selector comes i'll have a belorta party

[fathom rock]

Why....

What you hoarding these for

[tropic summit]

one of those is mmast, the other is rouge, the other is bmilk, surely

4D chess

[placid bloom]

well if there is nobody you want from current pool might as well not pull

[swift mango]

I mean you should.

But wait for new mold to come first.

[placid bloom]

at least when they add new char you have chance to get new char instead

[tropic summit]

that is indeed the reasoning

although it's also a way to maximize selector, e.g. you find that unit from molds instead, you use selector for something else in priority

[rocky orchid]

[fathom rock]

I can't remember the last time I got ssr from these, but I'm opening anything missilis, elysion or gold or purple rn for trina or mmast to have higher odds

[tropic summit]

this is also reasonable, imagine having scarlet without trina for example, i pity such a person /s

[placid bloom]

I got a lot from these. Except pilgrim mold ofc

the one that actually matters

[swift mango]

I got SBS the other day.

Not like 1 dupe for SBS would do anything to me.

[wind kelp]

Ah shucks, oh well, i think the matchups were a bit meh, but also i didn't even think 64 was doable. 1 more step up in progress! (and shiny frame XD )

[fathom rock]

I'd sell you my C5 nero for that 1 dupe

[tropic summit]

you tried, CA is for the most part luck with matchups, you'll get em next time

[wind kelp]

With better units too! 😄

[swift mango]

Give me 1 Rapu exchange for 2 RH and it's a deal.b

[magic viper]

I can throw anyone into the synchro that yall think I should

[magic viper]

The third one is a team with over 250k cp

[fathom rock]

.... Nvm

[placid bloom]

add Trina to sync

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left, arrange them and post them here so we doublecheck CP then you good to go

[placid bloom]

might as well add SR Anis too

[hybrid escarp]

Interesting rebuttal

[tropic summit]

i've got better

[magic viper]

fk my game lost sync and I cant find the dude anymore. Hold up I need to find him first

[fathom rock]

Vs t2
Crown naga drakeT sdoro alice
Vs t3
Noah biscuit cindy helmT jackal

[tropic summit]

look at how her cute wings bounce

[placid bloom]

I can't see them if my face is planted in that ass

[hybrid escarp]

All rebuttals are welcome

[tropic summit]

relatable

[wind kelp]

The wing bounce also means that she's taking a lot of the recoil with the hips, very secure.

[fathom rock]

Blood this wouldn't be your first time

[umbral crown]

You could win 1,4 and 5

[tropic summit]

1? how.

s.anis gonna hit walls

[fathom rock]

Rail vs rosy?

[tropic summit]

ye but he has already won

[tropic summit]

no way in hell i can beat rosy on invest

that would be just downright disrespectful, he deserve to win

[fathom rock]

Street fighter Vs Mike Tyson

[tropic summit]

oke CP looks more than fine, you can run those

[magic viper]

Thank you

[umbral crown]

Sanis in my experiences tends to beat cindy teams since sanus can do more damage

[magic viper]

Do I have a shot against this guy if I change my atk teams or nah

[tropic summit]

i've had mixed results myself, she seems to be more on a 50/50

[umbral crown]

Thats why i did not use cindy for a long time

[tropic summit]

ye you do, but we need all 3 teams

[wind kelp]

Oh and i did want to say thanks to this channel once again(This time Railtracer more), because a 2 years in game f2p would not make it that far with gumption alone 😄 Ofcourse every day pushing gets you far, but at some point the best upgrade for a nikke is to check pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

yes those are bad teams you can do it, but we need to change the teams

[swift mango]

If both with Noah and be same speed yes.

[magic viper]

Sorry I thought I sent all 3 screenshots

[tropic summit]

you welcome, shame we couldn't get you further but we'll get em

[umbral crown]

And T4 depends if siren lives to burst which might be the case , she seems to be linked

[tropic summit]

oke lemme c

[tropic summit]

yep she is, she's on SR15 and temperance

[umbral crown]

He has helm and laplace, i have x maiden and centi

[magic viper]

I feel like the first team is just gonna be a loss

[tropic summit]

ye we skipping first team, too expensive CP wise

[umbral crown]

Your scar then gonna do the thing

[tropic summit]

post this matchup, we double check CP like earlier and good to go

[tropic summit]

isn't your scar siren immune tho?

i feel like it's just gonna be coin flip

[raven plover]

same I want to thank railtracer for lending me his lambo last night

[tropic summit]

i don't remember owning one but you welcome

[raven plover]

thank you boss

[tropic summit]

ye good to go, go get em

[umbral crown]

Mine has 45 ammo

Im not gonna brick my scar with 33

[tropic summit]

wut you never fixed her?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i figured you would if using her in p1

ok maybe there's a remote chance afterall

[magic viper]

Thanks! I really need to learn how to pvp

[umbral crown]

Nah, i always go with auto and hope.for the best

[umbral crown]

You have most votes now, its a sigm

[tropic summit]

these 2 matches, if you noticed:

-we used biscuit with defenders to prevent damage in p1 (all other weps) and p5 (enemy shotguns)
-we used jackal and linked units (the 2 units with highest atk%) to share and spread damage from p1 and p5

another important details, teams were at least 3RL, vs enemy team that were VERY slower, so you always burst first

[tropic summit]

nah check again in 12-20 hours, ppl will have voted then

[umbral crown]

Owo

[tropic summit]

i just hope i lose with at least 2 rounds won, at least it's not shameful

[umbral crown]

Your noise and noah with tempering?

[tropic summit]

noise vigor, noah temperance

[umbral crown]

Then kinda your win, i will have to go 1 by 1 to kill your team since yours is 2 RL and mine 2.5

[tropic summit]

uh but isn't your xmaiden well built?

then again you've a lot of ele code, lappy gonna have a party

[umbral crown]

She has 17 cs some atk , nothing out the world

[umbral crown]

I voted for myself hoping i keep my way for loser frame

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957

damn the power of friendship arc going hard this season

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[tropic summit]

you let them win one out of pity?

need to see your box and their teams to say

lvl difference may not be enough to gap you if their invest is crap

[raven plover]

wait thats actually epic

[shell hazel]

slow cindy again lol

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

no b3, it's why if I send this again I'll probably do cindy p1

that has misfired on me a few times this CA

[shell hazel]

Hime you in top 32 as well?

[swift mango]

Losing CA today gave me luck to finally fix my RH OL line. I guess it was worth it.

[umbral belfry]

yes, and I'm fighting the exact same person as last time

what are the odds

[shell hazel]

grats Hime let's see how we get on in the next round

damn @cunning crown @nimble swan and @hollow lagoon all out this really is the power of friendship arc

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/friendship-workaholics-power-friendship-power-blake-anderson-gif-7642697

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[shell hazel]

my matches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcsvH9WubU

[cunning crown]

actual pic of us cheering you on

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[swift mango]

Who should I cheer for guys.

[fast nest]

I won!

[fast nest]

Next prediction.

[shell hazel]

giving my opponent a helping hand

[tropic summit]

it means you run scarlet trina rh centi jackal against that team, in that order

[fast nest]

When 'Gen in each tier' become over 100, it means Burst gauge filled up and start.
RL is the timing of when RL nikke shot.
At the right side of 2.RL, 2.5 RL, and so on is the timing when your burst is filled up and start.

[tropic summit]

team on left is you, on 2RL, enemy team is on right, on 3RL (or possibly 2.5RL via CS%, as we don't know their OLs)

[shell hazel]

I should beat 32 opponent as well, from 16 onwards will def get more challenging. I'm attack (bottom)

[tropic summit]

that's quite different then

what's your quantum lvl

it would help if you shared your box, so i don't have to go blindly

for box i mean something like this:
#pvp-arena message

oh 7 is more than enough

is your helm treasured, on at least phase 2 and has skill 1 lvl 10?

if so, you can run this

laplaceT can be swapped in for xmaiden or emilia

ye looks good

post the matchup above, we can doublecheck CP then you're good to go

[fast nest]

Bottom B, Top T
In my opinion, BTTBB?

[swift mango]

I'm back to Soda next season. RH suck.

[shell hazel]

2nd may depend on a few factors, could clutch it, depends if cindy bursts on my side
3rd I suspect will hinge on ros nuking vesti/lapT

[swift mango]

My max doll Trina can't survive p2 in this economy.

[worthy knoll]

More like Trina didn't burst, Anis bursted

[tropic summit]

position looks good but we don't see CP here, you can arrange the team in the fight screen before submitting, it shows both teams CP

[swift mango]

That's why RH suck. My max doll MLB Trina can't survive p2 with this research gap economy.

[tropic summit]

you got account creation date diffed

[worthy knoll]

But yeah RH B1 B2 B3 is tricky to position

[swift mango]

You are Lamer?

[tropic summit]

it's combat power, a value we need to see on both teams to determine if you're hit from penality or not

[worthy knoll]

Seems normal in terms of his sync level 🤔

[glad glade]

@umbral belfry congrats on making it! Looks like you’re facing off against phoenix again lmao

[swift mango]

Yeah normal. He is a month 2 player after all. Just started 1 year 2 months before me.

[worthy knoll]

Don't know what month I was, I kinda remember starting just a few days before Lap+ event 🤔

[tropic summit]

you could wait for reset then

[swift mango]

A bit higher than you actually. So maybe he bought some.

[worthy knoll]

He is higher sync, and I stopped buying half a month ago

[swift mango]

He started after you. Or else he would be in your day one bracket. Not this middle pack 3rd bracket.

[worthy knoll]

Still haven't bought this events too

[swift mango]

You are a bit level bricked too. Actually.

[worthy knoll]

I'm not day one

[swift mango]

Or month one.

[worthy knoll]

Ahh coz I'm waiting

For next normal chapter

[umbral belfry]

what are the odds LMAOOO he's gonna hate me

but also grats to you!

[swift mango]

Not as bricked a hoboman. Though.

[worthy knoll]

But I can go up by 20 sync or so

I'm also a returnee

[swift mango]

Guess some early brackets have it easy. LD bracket full of level 600+ from C1 to c7.

[glad glade]

It happens. The game really likes to pair up people like cupid. Anyways thank you, but this is where my journey ends

[umbral belfry]

you said that last time

[worthy knoll]

I'm in LD bracket, I think, I saw him on my CA before 🤔

[umbral belfry]

actually lemme take a look

[swift mango]

I mean SpA bracket. But yeah, you guys same CA.

[worthy knoll]

Oh I thought CA

[umbral belfry]

@glad glade i sense a potential misindom for t1

[glad glade]

Noir huh

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

lap likely. doesn't look like she's 4/4 OL

[worthy knoll]

I kinda remember I stopped playing during that Alice mass false ban, ugh when was that again

[umbral belfry]

so I assume she's not linked

[glad glade]

Lmao nah. I was scraping at the barrel real hard

[umbral belfry]

I will keep looking at teams

[swift mango]

Anyway, even in CA I have to face huge research diff just like Solo raid now. Facing 5 teams SG and I probably ded.

[worthy knoll]

But it was the time my first Union died coz a lot was banned for 2 weeks or 10 days? then everyone just lost motivation to play anymore

[umbral belfry]

wait these are just piggy's teams LMAO

[glad glade]

Wait they are??

[swift mango]

The Alice macro incident?

[tropic summit]

you know who you've to thank for?

1st) yourself in picking SEA instead of global so i could kick your ass
2nd) SU, because god forbid making QoL to this damned game

[umbral belfry]

@glad glade it is indeed where your story ends

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, it was that one I guess, I kinda remember Alice was the main center

[umbral belfry]

yeah he copied piggy word for word bar for bar LMAO

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-worry-youll-get-them-next-time-dale-barry-corbin-gif-15127981

[glad glade]

It is what it is. I’m not ready for CA yet but at least I can get the gold frame. I accept my fate

[worthy knoll]

Either that or was it that GraveDigger abuse

[swift mango]

I made global account x 5 first actually, to reroll for Elegg but failed. Then, I make 1 SEA account in the same google mail that already had a global and boom! Elegg in 4 pulls.

[glad glade]

Look at that stall team

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

so that's where it began

[umbral belfry]

I'm looking at that 75k rosa

[tropic summit]

the fault lied to your chubby preference

you went thicc

[swift mango]

[glad glade]

Its 62k on my end

[umbral belfry]

'ah yes, if it worked for the champ it'll work for me too!!'

[glad glade]

Truly a keripo moment

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

that's why in this bracket i see so many keripo teams fail due to them lacking investment

[glad glade]

Yep glad we’re on the same page on that one XD

[digital rivet]

any tips on how to beat this guy? if i can beat him I take #3 spot and can sneak in fringe CA next time

[tropic summit]

looks like i dodged a bullet, i play a ton of alice

[umbral belfry]

Phoenix is running keripo teams too

but ah ah ah

[shell hazel]

2rl scar is weak to 2rl bay

hit the cindy/noah comp with vesti/noah

[glad glade]

At least he has them decently invested, especially that stall team

[umbral belfry]

it is, but not invested enough

he lacks the 18 cs for t1 for example, that's what makes keripo's so strong to beat scar

[tropic summit]

can you post your box so we know what you can run?

[glad glade]

He has his blabla open too?

[umbral belfry]

yes

[glad glade]

Damn you’re hitting all the jackpot for blablas.

[umbral belfry]

that's how i know he doesn't have the cs to fully mirror keripo

[tropic summit]

blanc and jackal on blue doll

[digital rivet]

I can give them purple

[tropic summit]

jackal could use SR5-SR15

[shell hazel]

don't go SR-0 purple

[digital rivet]

yeah they would be SR-5 at minimum

[shell hazel]

I see many RL dolls on blue R-15 awaiting purple upgrades

[tropic summit]

just to ensure you've your indom working

take this chance to go R15 on jackal into SR5

[digital rivet]

but I can push higher for them

[glad glade]

My SPA rival/friend is like that too. He copies keripo and calls it a day. He still uses the Sora+blanc Scar comp in CA even when I give him shit for it. At least he’s finally gonna change it next round

[umbral belfry]

sora

[shell hazel]

Hime we need wut da hell now

[umbral belfry]

[digital rivet]

I had 2.5k blue books a couple days ago 🙁

[tropic summit]

post matchup with these two, you're on the left, let's confirm CP

[shell hazel]

[digital rivet]

lemme boost my jackal and blanc a bit real quick

[shell hazel]

jackal 100% worth pushing to SR-15

use her in all your pvp teams

[tropic summit]

blanc SR15 ensures she can be used against 2RL scarlet, so that's also a good plus

[glad glade]

She really captured his heart. Squeezed him dry

[umbral belfry]

[worthy sorrel]

@short moon sorry man, can't catch a break. dealing with me in SP and also hitting radeki early in CA. it's like the whales are hunting you down

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[glad glade]

I am immortalized now

[digital rivet]

my noise isn't invested so probably not ideal

[tropic summit]

oh ye looks good, no penalty

[tropic summit]

oh oke let's see if you've any other flex B1

aaaaaand you don't

[digital rivet]

I couldddd invest her

puts me out of gear fodder juice but it's doable

[tropic summit]

4OL, SR5, 4/4/4 leggo

[digital rivet]

🫡

[tropic summit]

well you'll use her plenty so it's an investiment worth the trouble

[gritty ridge]

Chat what are the chances i roll 2 crit lines and 1 ammo line on scar today

[tropic summit]

none

[gritty ridge]

Rail you hate me

[tropic summit]

i speak the truth, this game hates ALL of us

[gritty ridge]

Thats all I need for scar to be finished

I need it

[digital rivet]

first OL on noise lol

[shell hazel]

damn, no CS but solid cp pad 😄

[placid bloom]

Jackal linked Noise time

[digital rivet]

4th OL on her

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

But Noise needs to be slower than Noah

[tropic summit]

bro going for linked noise build without even intending to

[digital rivet]

she want vigor?

[tropic summit]

ye

[digital rivet]

would SR15 brick her in any way?

[tropic summit]

noise vigor
rumani quantum (3 or 7)
sbs w/e
noah temperance
trina quantum (3 or 7)

[placid bloom]

no

[tropic summit]

no if anything it adds damage reduction

[shell hazel]

my noise is SR-15 but it depends what else you have to build also

[placid bloom]

there is 0 char that can brick from SR15

except Crow

[tropic summit]

there is one you silly

[shell hazel]

was going to say crow

[tropic summit]

and it's not crow

one who badly wants to die.

and is currently making hippo lose matches in CA cuz she just won't die

[placid bloom]

well Mihara can be killed in other ways

like making your enemy 1RL

[tropic summit]

but you got her right

[placid bloom]

I think SG sac p1 is harder than letting Mihara die

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

well there is always P23 I guess

but you lose so much dps

[digital rivet]

this is CP on team 1 now

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

[digital rivet]

is his t3 vesti team going to be nukable?

or are we saccing that team

[tropic summit]

their T3 needs a rosanna well invested to deny vesti early

[digital rivet]

ahh so not very doable for me

[tropic summit]

if you had SGs would be

SG + rosanna would kill p1 and p2, with p5 as helm is ele weak to rosanna

hence why we picked t1 and t2 anyway

@swift mango give me a crow that looks like this and i'll re-think about it

[digital rivet]

his t2 outstalled

moran lived with very little hp to outlast vesti

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

looks like that is consistent then @swift mango, vesti gets c0ckblocked by moran

@digital rivet what's your CS% overload on vestiTU? could give her double buff

[digital rivet]

she at 19% currently. pretty quick

[tropic summit]

oh should be fine

let's murder that thing

[grand plaza]

Wasn't Vesti supposed to be her counter

[tropic summit]

run this in union range just to see if you can afford running helmT or we can just run centi

you want to check if vestiTU gets jumping jackal buff

[digital rivet]

my vesti lacks any atk% lines though which kinda sucks a lot

[tropic summit]

blanc in particular, vesti is just high nuking power

[sharp silo]

Anyone down to help me with my PVP teams? I got these characters + Soda Twinkling and Folkwang

[tropic summit]

sure post your box

[grand plaza]

[sharp silo]

Wrong pic

[sharp silo]

What’s my box? Sorry I’m new to this game

[digital rivet]

i'm not blessed to have red hood 🙁

[tropic summit]

oof

[swift mango]

Crow alter, trust.

[tropic summit]

oh but we can force a rumani burst over moran

[tropic summit]

try this against that team instead

[daring gust]

Guys how to mihara pvp? Any guide?

[tropic summit]

you need her to die, either sacc or slow

[daring gust]

Then what happen

[digital rivet]

moran has been slain!

[sharp silo]

I have these and Soda Twinkling Bunny + Folkwang

[tropic summit]

run these 2 teams

3rd just auto with w/e is left on high CP

wishlist scarlet, cinderella, scarlet:BS, rumani, trina, rapunzel, centi, jackal, biscuit, noah

[sharp silo]

Thanks 🙏

[tropic summit]

if CP is low on the second team, run quantum lvl 1 on anis and replace ein with alice

[digital rivet]

is this just an insurmountable CP gap between me and #2 now?

[tropic summit]

oh previous team worked?

[digital rivet]

yep

[tropic summit]

guess denying moran B1 did it

her damage reduction is something else

[tropic summit]

uh let's see

[digital rivet]

it came down to like the last one or two hits

[tropic summit]

510k CP for T1
550K CP for T2
561K CP for T3

(to not be hit by penalty)

the team themselves although aren't particularly scary

[digital rivet]

cp gap is big though

[tropic summit]

we need to push your CP

let's see if you could potentially do it

[digital rivet]

i've only got two levels of cd boxes currently so not much to do there

he took it right back xD

[shell hazel]

if you can find a way to beat 1 or 2 then you can double hop

[tropic summit]

gonna need to update your defense i guess

[tropic summit]

arrange these 2 teams just for reference so we know if you can at least meet CP

[digital rivet]

not quite there

think I might be dolphin gapped rn

[shell hazel]

nah they invested more

look all dolls SR-15 or w/e, yours are not

20 level gap shouldn't be enough to cp deficit unless they gap with investment as well

dolls + ol lines + ol in general all bring you the CP

[tropic summit]

yeah those were your best CP teams, could commit to 1 but then the other 2 are gonna be very tricky, you know your limits, let's work on your defnese

[digital rivet]

that's my defense currently

noise is freshly invested and vesti has gotten a lot better since I last changed defense

[shell hazel]

you'd tend to want vesti as main nuker not off-burst for scar

[tropic summit]

yep we can upgrade those, run these on def

[shell hazel]

2rl scar + 2rl cindy + 2.5 or 3rl indom vesti prob what you want

[tropic summit]

to give you a full picture, this one accounts for your current CS% on vesti

opponent should struggle with t1 and t2, while t3 is just bait

[digital rivet]

I took 3rd back we shall see how he responds

[tropic summit]

changed def teams right?

[digital rivet]

yep

[tropic summit]

oki

[shell hazel]

should hit back just before reset as well if it's this close

[tropic summit]

it's fine, he's still pure

let's not taint him

||yet||

[shell hazel]

damn chal 1 and chal 2 really bringing the cp lol

[digital rivet]

yeah I either take 3rd or 4th I think in my server

[tropic summit]

that renamii guy was in Azu's bracket

wonder how he's doing

[digital rivet]

he seems to have a nice lead in this server xD

[tropic summit]

@orchid birch you alive? that renamii guy still 1st go beat him

[oblique gyro]

@shell hazel thx to tempering lvl 7, i can hit CP void rookie again

[orchid birch]

wat

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[orchid birch]

bros 100 lvls up on me

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message this the same guy you had in your bracket right?

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ

[orchid birch]

yeah I gave up

[shell hazel]

feel free to hit me if you can also but just try to keep it to once if it works 😄

[orchid birch]

uma gamer now

[tropic summit]

good stuff, i burned out on that, hope you don't

was a fun journey though

[shell hazel]

uma seems so time intensive

looks like the biggest issue

[tropic summit]

it's a good game, but to min/max it is intensive

as it leads you down inevitably to burn out

[shell hazel]

it's 2025 and they expect you to spend a lot of time daily on it to keep on top of things

[orchid birch]

it is very time intensive

I'm at about 220 hrs

[shell hazel]

I couldn't do it, I don't mind spending a bit of time but it's limited how much I'd want for one game

[orchid birch]

I mean I've spent a little chunk on it so I'm goin for it

[shell hazel]

I have my eye on two upcoming gacha: Chaos Zero Nightmare and Kaleido Rider

@oblique gyro

[tropic summit]

what about neverness to everness

[shell hazel]

open world gacha probably too manual for me to stay on top of

though I may give it a try - the dailies/repetition gets to me, at least in Nikke/HSR I can auto stuff if I feel lazy

[tropic summit]

chaos zero has chibis

[shell hazel]

it's card battler like slay the spire

I'll try it out and treat as f2p prob

[tropic summit]

oh i see

[shell hazel]

same for Kaleido rider one, which seems turn based but with girls on motorcycles

[tropic summit]

meanwhile that kaleido looks like HSR on bikes?

[shell hazel]

yeah so ..

[tropic summit]

i mean they don't feel particularly special, was curious

[shell hazel]

apologies I was put in the naughty corner

[tropic summit]

discord too sensible to allow such content

god forbid...

[shell hazel]

no I mean neither seem like they'll blow me away but can try them out, and I won't go spending on multi gacha anyway

see how the gameplay is

[tropic summit]

sounds reasonable, worth a shot for sure

won't judge a book by its cover, although i'm expecting something fresh in this saturated market of gacha

[shell hazel]

I like my turn based/strategy games

[tropic summit]

the new arknight and everness make me hopeful

[shell hazel]

usually

but I'm a little tired of the open world side

[tropic summit]

4 at a time sir

[devout grotto]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

too many games coming trying to be genshin or wuwa

[tropic summit]

oh very true, if it's the same recipe i'll bench it very quickly

[devout grotto]

Can I get suggestions for rookie mode and the three team mode

[shell hazel]

open world + sweepable farming with quick dailies I could get on board

[umbral belfry]

✂️

[shell hazel]

but if it wants me to manual some easy af content for daily grinds I check out quick

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/scissoring-scissor-fight-scissors-gif-3378634157756152151

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/scissors-lella-ammore-amore-visone-gif-19739187

[shell hazel]

we all need some scissoring in our lives

[tropic summit]

is helm treasured and s1 lvl 10, phase 2 minimun?

[umbral belfry]

oh I see him in CA nowadays

[tropic summit]

ultra whel, go get him

leviathan tier

[umbral belfry]

I can't bc he keeps losing early

[tropic summit]

indeed, i very much understand Hime, i'd do the same if i was a grill

[umbral belfry]

i only remember his name

[tropic summit]

oof

[shell hazel]

Hime is my inspiration

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

when we grow up, we gonna try to be Hime

[umbral belfry]

did you change your teams hippo? I forget

[shell hazel]

that time I got reincarnated as some scissors

[tropic summit]

new animu for next season let's go

[shell hazel]

we had the reincarnated as a sword one

and the reincarnated as a vending machine one

[tropic summit]

ye surely we can afford a scissor for next one

[shell hazel]

and the reincarnated as a skeleton one

[tropic summit]

the assassin one too

[shell hazel]

now we need scissors

it is time

[shell hazel]

must not forget

[gritty ridge]

Chat peep the matchup

[tropic summit]

the shield hero rises, did you increase your CP drastically or is it just me

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

I told you ive been investing pvp

[tropic summit]

this is not ch1 tho is it

[shell hazel]

oh yeah of course liter into biscuit b2 into alice

[gritty ridge]

Nah c1 is chilling, ive been tossing teams to test against vesti on occasion

[tropic summit]

oof you gave me fake hope then

[gritty ridge]

C2 is not happening

Absolute leviathan

[shell hazel]

you're just out of cp deficit in t2

anchor is slow though

[gritty ridge]

Yeah trina is holding back cp alot, shes next to be overloaded after blanc

[shell hazel]

you're not true 2RL, no more b1 or b2 batteries?

[tropic summit]

T1 is on deficit, T2 is ensured

i'd question your only B1 in p2, but team is probably fast enough to get to B1 while she dies to deficit splash, seems good

[shell hazel]

I'd trina first, unless you're running blanc in attack more

[gritty ridge]

I run indom alot in attack

All of top 5 is at least 30 sync higher than me

[tropic summit]

you finally benched bread and using vesti indom|| ...right?||

[devout grotto]

Helm is with only 1 dupe

[gritty ridge]

Vesti isnt built yet

[tropic summit]

oh lordie oke, let's see what can be assembled

[gritty ridge]

Give her some time

I use rrh indom more often than not

[oblique gyro]

hit him helped to get rank 2 yeah, i am back

[shell hazel]

bigboi I'd prob noah | biscuit and move siren to safer spot

[gritty ridge]

I can, it doesnt really matter tho

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Ive been bullying this whale for a while

[shell hazel]

oishi desu

[shell hazel]

feel free to try my team when you get a chance

as before just hit me once if you can, I'll do the same only if you're in top 6 - I get like no points for it 😛

if you fail you can try more times np

[devout grotto]

There are these 2 as well, not sure why they didn't send

[shell hazel]

if void winds up being able to beat me I'd move to another def prob

[gritty ridge]

Bro the sync dif

Absolute leviathan in c2

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Theres only 4 ish people who can beat me in my bracket tho

[shell hazel]

yeah you doing good, and if you can get into CA just keep investing to protect 3/4 position

[gritty ridge]

I just fight to keep c3

C1 is a homie now

Hes trying to join pie

[tropic summit]

arrange these 3 and show CP, then we can confirm or nitpick

[devout grotto]

I don't have Jackal

[gritty ridge]

Sent wrong pic

Do i have a chance at either of these 2

I can beat t1

[tropic summit]

oh alright here you go

wishlist jackal, noah, trina, finish helmT, get your teams reviewed then

[tropic summit]

you're gapped too hard here

anything past 24% is realistically ded

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i made my strongest jackal team and all 3 links died to the first volley

T1 is pretty easy to beat tho

3rl siren team can win with bay/noah/blanc on t1

[short moon]

What if I write shiftup support an email, asking them to not let me get bullied? 😭

[worthy sorrel]

Winning strat

[tropic summit]

they'll tell you the way to prevent it, as in:

-become a paying customer
-earn enough resources to gap them, no more problems

[devout grotto]

Quite a few of my characters among this are not maxed in terms of skill and equipment, should I get to building them? I have also kept Jackal, Noah and Helm in my wishlist for a long time with little luck

[gritty ridge]

Like 4 more days til blanc done

[umbral crown]

Rail is doing the thing

[shell hazel]

damn core 4 blanc

[tropic summit]

well i can't tell invest from your screenshot of earlier, if you can post like this i can use your better invested units

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

🐳

[gritty ridge]

I whale for pulls yeah

I only have 3 core max units tho

[tropic summit]

those people are gonna be very sad when they find out it's the opposite odds

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[shell hazel]

3 to my 0 😄

Rail i found the true whale among us

[tropic summit]

you?

[shell hazel]

bigboi with his core maxes

[tropic summit]

we already knew bigboi was wheling

[short moon]

:< im already paying them for outfits but I guess its not enough be to fashionable

[gritty ridge]

This is my highest cores lol

[tropic summit]

all the money he makes from being a personal trainer goes to the game

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-22511058

[gritty ridge]

Dont mind the mlb kilo

[fast nest]

wow plenty of Max already

[tropic summit]

thank you for providing for these

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

My scar soda team is gonna be so strong

[tropic summit]

||tomorrow||

[gritty ridge]

C2 soda gonna carry dmg

[short moon]

:x to be fair I didn't get that one cuz face looked off

[gritty ridge]

C7 miranda was a necessity tbf

[shell hazel]

true husband would c7

[gritty ridge]

My shiny miranda pfp is so nice

[tropic summit]

and yet you don't use her in your teams

fake husbando

shame on you

[gritty ridge]

I use her on ultra

[tropic summit]

that's something i guess

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna build snow white just for her

[umbral belfry]

@short moon write a strongly worded letter to support to ask to be put back in baby bracket (take me with u)

[short moon]

Ill try to get it written before radeki hands out the dirt nap. But also hime strong enough to bully other ppl 🤔. If you go back to baby bracket ill just get bullied by you and not radeki 🐴

[gritty ridge]

Does soda need any invests outside of 4 4 4 base ol?

[placid bloom]

need Atk OL if you want her to link

[gritty ridge]

What if shes core 2 tho

[placid bloom]

just needs more Atk than Trina really

cuz the other chars on the team probably defender

[gritty ridge]

If I put soda in sync she would probably link already

[placid bloom]

with no doll?

4.5k Atk kinda a lot

[gritty ridge]

Its 5 dupes vs 0 dupes on trina

[placid bloom]

flat stat is kinda big

[gritty ridge]

Soda will have a doll if I get any mg dolls this raid

Shes far down the list of invests tho

Cuz I can just run double buff

[umbral crown]

guess i will have to wait another season to fight fatima

[tropic summit]

que? you fighting him this season

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/very-sure-certain-convinced-confident-of-course-gif-23343585

[glad meteor]

Gons

[glad meteor]

I’m pretty sure I’m losing lol

[tropic summit]

easy win

believe in your scartless teams

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Actually, does anyone have the win stats of scar soda vs scar rh

[umbral belfry]

at least i am but a 🐟 compared

[umbral belfry]

gonna need your cheer to get .25 more pls

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-ahhhhh-muppets-the-excitement-gif-4745836165336469544

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

also wtf finish ur dailies

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[tropic summit]

you're missing 10 points it seems

[keen vapor]

Wth, my gems

[tropic summit]

check ur dailies

[fast nest]

I think unless soda stun enemy scarlet, scarlet RH may win because ppl usually invest RH and RH could survive from scarlet burst.

[umbral crown]

Kara and rail winning

[fast nest]

No soda comp but scarlet mirror match became like this.

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I meant in comparison, not team vs team. Should've worded it better

[fast nest]

Ah you mean overall win rate.

[gritty ridge]

Also redhood surviving scarlet burst is cursed

[fast nest]

What do you mean? I meant Scarlet both used their burst at the same time but RH didn't die.

It could be enemy trina's skill lvl is low.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats what im assuming

[eternal finch]

Hey! That worked! T2 did lose

[fast nest]

Whatever, RH's 1st burst inc all team def. So, if Centi is invested quite many, then there is possibility she could be alive.

[glad meteor]

Just noticed qualifiers replays didn’t go away.

[umbral crown]

Lets see how this cp pad defense works in rookie

[tropic summit]

nice good job, @fathom rock 's cook

[umbral crown]

From league you mean?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[umbral crown]

Waos

[tropic summit]

what CP pad, that's a near proper 2RL indom vesti you cheater

[umbral crown]

But but

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

noah on steroids

[umbral crown]

I had emilia but then when i was taking a shower thought: but noah has more cp, more hp and the team is 2 RL still, went and changed emi for noah and nkw team looking decent in cp

Can not gap me

If i were 481 probably i would be 1.1 or a bit more

[keen vapor]

Blabla was bugged, I did claim my gems

[umbral crown]

Did you?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

are you sure? i'd check again

[keen vapor]

I said it's bugged

[tropic summit]

can't know for sure, definitely worth checking again ||||

[umbral crown]

Also check sp since you are at it

Let me guess.... echo is C10

[tropic summit]

he has used both attempts, i'd say c7

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit , what would you suggest for a t5?

[keen vapor]

I changed my def

[tropic summit]

c4?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[glad meteor]

Moran bay or not enough gen?

[gritty ridge]

It would be slow moran bay

Missing both rumani and helm

[tropic summit]

solo noise B1 in p1 is very ballsy, either way vestiTU does not need helmT, that's overcommited

[glad meteor]

rip

[tropic summit]

remove helmT and open up your 5th team with her

[gritty ridge]

Rail xmaiden is a no go

[tropic summit]

dude how long you been doing this

you know very well xmaiden is a flex unit there

[gritty ridge]

These are all units I have

Xmaiden I do not and can not have

[tropic summit]

it's a flex

[gritty ridge]

But shes faster than clip sg

[tropic summit]

gotta teach em everything

this opens your helmT to T5, now get cookin'

2.5RL vestiTU with noise B1 is nuke resistant so it will have to do if you're not 15%CS on vesti yet

what do you've left for T5 assuming helmT is open?

a moran bay would be nice

get your pseudo stall

[gritty ridge]

Also you stole rumani from cindy

[tropic summit]

it's with both versions look above

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok,

[gritty ridge]

I cant read rail

[tropic summit]

you can't read*

[gritty ridge]

You keep stealing batteries from one of the other teams

[tropic summit]

pascal doko?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah pascal is getting used

Love that guy

[tropic summit]

kind of a bandaid for when you're short for burst gen

[gritty ridge]

So i get to use this, yippee

[tropic summit]

get CS% on helmT and it becomes 2.5RL, 8% is sufficient

[gritty ridge]

Can also get cs on bay

[tropic summit]

ehh less recommended, helmT has more priority

[wicked horizon]

Does Vesti kill Nero-Moran?

[tropic summit]

we've had cases today where she didn't, even blood's vestiTU didn't

[gritty ridge]

If I get 3 cs lines when overloading bay im not gonna complain

[tropic summit]

you really like miracles

[wicked horizon]

I'm thinking bot has enough damage for this though?

[spiral onyx]

Bay+ and Moran P5 fixed Helm team's weakness against SGs

Also 4 SG too stronk

[gritty ridge]

P1 noise should be fine as l9ng as it doesnt encounter attacking sg team

[keen vapor]

Now we're meant to build Bay treasure....

[tropic summit]

or laplaceT on high ele + other pressure units

[tropic summit]

don't worry, if he uses nero moran and bay in the same team it means other teams are wea- nvm it's keripo, doesn't count

[spiral onyx]

On an unrelated note, I think BAde is gonna be my home screen for the next while...

[tropic summit]

yeah i see two big reasons

[gritty ridge]

Basically, more gamba for gamba arena

[rich ledge]

Lol you can look at the timing below with the clock on top status bar

[tropic summit]

haha 16s is something else

almost like a bot/macro

you could try reporting and getting SU to doublecheck for third party tools on this guy ass

[rich ledge]

Anyway he burnt his 2 free tries today I succeeded

[placid bloom]

I've gotten a sub 10s counter snipe before reset once he hit too early

[rich ledge]

Nah I think he is legit he just keep refreshing around this time

At least I can sleep tomorrow and not set alarm, he didn't think to save 1 try to snipe me just before reset

[tropic summit]

[rich ledge]

If he wanna use gems to hit me then I have also won haha

Baited

[tropic summit]

that only works on f2p...

if he's not, it's meaningless to them, just an extra swipe

[rich ledge]

He is whale though, he rather set alarm to compete at this time than to use gems

[tropic summit]

then it's meaningless unfortunately

[rain thicket]

how to counter pick this ?

[tropic summit]

noise rumani helmt flex noah

flex any unit you want to have on offburst DPS (laplaceT, emilia, xmaiden), avoid any unit that is not RL or SR

if rookie rumani can be jackal

[rain thicket]

no Rumani so Jackal it'll be

[tropic summit]

if for w/e reason their scarlet is very well invested for indom, this one denies her DPS during it via biscuit procs on noah

although give it a shot with the previous team, might suffice without needing to nitpick it

[ivory mango]

Bro is dueling in pvp on real time

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/w4OuU9KCHuw?si=Lea2IenC9as1ZG5W

[digital rivet]

I think i'm doomed to trade blows with this guy now

[tropic summit]

oh no it begins

[digital rivet]

so the strat is to save your last free battle for just before reset?

[tropic summit]

well ideally it would be to make a defense that can at least make him waste 1 attempt

then you can retain your position because you're 2-1 unless he gems

the previous defense we made didn't get him to fail once?

[digital rivet]

he blasted right through it

[tropic summit]

oof

[digital rivet]

I think i'm out of units to flex too

[tropic summit]

let's call in the chivalry

[digital rivet]

i'm working on gear for moran now but with the 10 nikke i've heavily invested in the past two days it's rough out here

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown @keen vapor make a new def for @digital rivet when you got time

box:
#pvp-arena message

for reference this was broken:
#pvp-arena message

[digital rivet]

setting up my wishlist for pvp dupes. wish me good fortune in the wars to come

[tropic summit]

aye, let's see if Rosy or Echo got somethin' else on their mind, it's worth at least keeping changing def to throw them off

chances are they'll fail a few times at least down the line

[digital rivet]

i'm always down for more advice

[vapid lake]

mental illness battle in pvp the classic

[quartz rover]

rl doll jackal or vesti

its just a blue

I did jackal

[shell hazel]

solo raid starting soon so more dolls to come

[fathom rock]

Whale raid

Mother Whale vs biggest whale

[remote gulch]

Hey guys, been having a few issues in SP def since I think my investment not enough and I get got by a couple of players. Currently running double 2RL and sacrifice 2nd team and wanted to learn a bit what I was doing wrong. Any help? All units are there, with varying levels of invest

t1 is scar team, t2 is vesti t3 is 2rl cindy

[heavy hearth]

Any counters for this team? It’s my team but he mirrored matched me and his synchro is higher

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-dirty-brandon-gonez-canada's-ultimate-challenge-that's-grimy-304-gif-17077754068233789759

[shell hazel]

you can siren stun the noah, just don't put your own noah in a position to get stunned

guess this is rookie?

[deep summit]

Need some help cooking a stronger defence and maybe some general offence, need to get back into Diamond 3

[heavy hearth]

Yeah it’s rookie so it doesn’t really matter too much, it’s fun bullying him though

[shell hazel]

is your noise built and with less CS than noah?

[deep summit]

This was the enemy team I probably have the biggest power gap against? But I can maybe look for more

[shell hazel]

if you run noah into that team then your noah hits p1/p2 and siren gets taunted which means siren stuns your noah

[heavy hearth]

No luck pulling noise so far

[shell hazel]

[heavy hearth]

My exact reaction

[shell hazel]

otherwise could try indom

or rosa snipe vesti/siren

[digital rivet]

how do I fit nero/rosa into this. tetra is hogging all the pvp units

I don't have nero or rosa yet

[shell hazel]

you don't really need more blanc after mlb

noise prob fine on 1LB as well for now

[digital rivet]

okie, changed for now

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit you were right, 1 rock day

[heavy hearth]

What would those teams look like?

[shell hazel]

can you send/record this?

hopefully your siren/jackal can survive, I assume your jackal links with helmT and Vesti

[gritty ridge]

Why are you going for dupes if youre missing units

[shell hazel]

you may want to check who jackal links with in a mock battle

[gritty ridge]

Hippo hear me out

[shell hazel]

their siren giga feeds your jackal, I doubt they link with noah

so your siren won't feed

[shell hazel]

Bready? 😄

[digital rivet]

you right

[gritty ridge]

How did you know

I need my c1 to get shuffled into my rookie so I can test bready indom against real teams

When is next rookie shuffle?

[shell hazel]

it wasn't that long since the last one, so a while yet

[shell hazel]

what even are these teams :S

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

bigboi, time to cook

[gritty ridge]

Please, my rookie is so bad that I dont even do my dailies

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-nijika-ijichi-fried-rice-gif-3216218472186211617

[gritty ridge]

I can cook in like 1.5 hours

Im working

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

I told yall my weekends are busy

[shell hazel]

your siren gets the indom

if your vesti got the indom it's gg

pro tip btw

if you ever quick battle and want to watch it after you can do that

[deep summit]

What I had gotten suggested awhile back

I just want help

I don't really know PvP stuff

[shell hazel]

yours and the opponents teams 😄

[shell hazel]

try re-arrange a bit but it's a little riskier for blanc

[deep summit]

How does that help

[shell hazel]

@heavy hearth send this if you can

blanc and jackal protected by biscuit here, indom should fall to lowest hp on link

give helm vigor if hp is close with besti

I don't think their noah will be able to b2 before you kill them, we miss the siren stun but should win unless their noah is quick enough

[heavy hearth]

That worked. Thanks boss

[gritty ridge]

Ill see if I can cook for you later homeslice

[shell hazel]

I see why I think you're pve main so all your pvp units are like row 3/4

means you can't run effective teams without tanking cp

[shell hazel]

yup not even close run thing, it's over once you burst and biscuit makes your p1/p2 safe

helm and biscuit job is done once you b3 so them dying is expected

[gritty ridge]

Imagine not having most of your pvp units row 2

Smh

[shell hazel]

nah it means you can't run them, they're way down the list

you have to raise cp on them or you die by cp gap instead

pvp units only really work if you can balance cp with utility

@deep summit how much cp do these have vs units in your top 2 rows?

[digital rivet]

all this pvp cooking has brought me to #1 in my rookie bracket and c3 in my sp bracket. ty for all your help ❤️

[shell hazel]

I was curious and yep Rail recommended bumping the cp on the core pvp units a while ago

[keen vapor]

My Rumani is weak

[shell hazel]

you can definitely run better teams but not if the cp on the core units is low, so if you fix that then new teams can probably be cooked up

[deep summit]

Thanks

[shell hazel]

don't have to have them all done but we're in september and that message from rail was in april, so plenty of time to move stuff

if you prefer to invest pve then the pvp will suffer for it

[deep summit]

Just a comparison from Naga to Trina and biscuit

[shell hazel]

yeah that is too much of a gap

let me spin the question around a bit, which of the pvp units are ready/done?

maybe you can at least cook in one better team for now whilst you work on the others

for me ready would be:
4/4 OL (+0 with initial rock for cp pad/stats)
4/4/4 skills
R-15 or SR-5 doll min (or SR-0 if you're a masochist for improving it later, don't recommend)

[deep summit]

Idk 100% what qualifies, I just got Trina and Noah OL'd. Guess I'll hold off on my RRH rolls

[gritty ridge]

Ok idk if I can cook when your pvp utilities aren't even half the cp of your normal units

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[shell hazel]

4/4 OL (+0 with initial rock for cp pad/stats)
4/4/4 skills
R-15 or SR-5 doll min (or SR-0 if you're a masochist for improving it later, don't recommend)

this is enough to be somewhat usable, most don't need 10/10/10 skills or +5 on OL or anything

your trina there has no OL showing

[deep summit]

I mean like PVP meta units

[deep summit]

I'm saying I JUST did

[shell hazel]

when is the screenshot from?

[shell hazel]

unless you just did it this second, if so re-send

that is better

[deep summit]

I don't have any more doll kits

[shell hazel]

jackal noah biscuit would be core units

[deep summit]

Jackal is full OL

[shell hazel]

trina centi rumani are fantastic supplementary batteries

if those 6 are min invested they are usable with more cp focus teams

jackal: high burst gen b1 with damage share between herself + top 2 atk units in the team
noah: high burst gen b2 with anti-nuke shield for the team
biscuit: mid burst gen b2 who makes defenders immune when they fall below a certain hp threshold

blanc is a decent additional option for indom variants as well

[gritty ridge]

Sr5 is enough for most pvp utility units

[shell hazel]

those 4 make up your main defensive options

[deep summit]

Biscuit is now mostly OL’d

[shell hazel]

one issue you may have is your scarlet - how built is she? you can run with the other scarlet but it's not quite the same

scarlet has quite high requirements to be usable

[gritty ridge]

If no scarlet it can still be alright

[shell hazel]

you can hybrid your main pve and pvp units somewhat

[deep summit]

Oh no, forgot Scarlet isn’t even OL’d gonna be a day or two, no more modules

[shell hazel]

it's a goal to reach to build her, she has higher requirements

you may find it easier to build vesti instead (new one)

lower ceiling on usable stats

[deep summit]

I do have new vesti

[shell hazel]

she's really good

and you could work in a vesti team with blanc/jackal

please can you re-send the units again sorted by power with the recent changes?

will help to see where we sit with who is usable

[shell hazel]

thanks

[deep summit]

Noah got some really good rolls like 10/12 I think?

[shell hazel]

noah wants CS % the most but anything is good, ammo, ele etc

[deep summit]

I’m probably not gonna be rerolling much in PVP especially given how hungry PVE units are, unless they are viable there too

Like Scarlet, Vesti TU

For Ele weak SR

[shell hazel]

what is the CP like for this?

noise will likely die if she's not invested we can re-consider her if it's bad

but rumani backup b1

[deep summit]

Pretty sure noise isn't OL'd

[shell hazel]

yeah we may need to reconsider then 😄

[shell hazel]

it may still work even if noise dies, it's 2RL she doesn't have to live for long

alt you can run like rouge instead but we need to burn some quantums

how much does rouge add vs noise here?

[magic viper]

Yall think I got a shot? Rookie Arena

[shell hazel]

no because your crown is getting stunned by siren

unless we have the weird attacker advantage where your siren stuns their siren

[magic viper]

Damn. Ill keep refreshing. Everyone is like at least 30k more cp than me

[shell hazel]

it might work but you should check the speeds with these types of comps

[deep summit]

Only about 30k

Pretty sure Rouge isn’t OL’d

[shell hazel]

must have something I note she is higher in the power order

[deep summit]

Probably doll diff maybe a piece or 2

[shell hazel]

is your quantum level 7?

[magic viper]

How am I supposed to read this?

[shell hazel]

you're 4RL

they're like 8RL

[deep summit]

Quantum is 7 yes

And I checked rouge is full OL

[shell hazel]

indom Ein we may be able to do, she is better than SBS less countered

we feed to 2.5RL or close to 2RL maybe depends opponent team

[magic viper]

Damn I really need to learn pvp and what everything means

[shell hazel]

burst speed, 1RL = time it takes for a RL unit like centi / trina etc to fire 1 rocket

so 4RL isn't that quick, but if 4RL is only 56% then you basically 8RL, so it's next year

[magic viper]

So I gen more burst than them? Since they have a higher RL?

[shell hazel]

right

2RL is about as quick as you can be

[magic viper]

So you want lower RL I see.

[shell hazel]

you then have to consider position for burst order

and also what type of units the opponent has, you may burst quicker but if they kill your backline with shotguns then gg

[magic viper]

Is it similar to how auto bursting in campaign works?

How does target priority work in pvp? Assuming no taunt units, are certain positions targeted more? Or is it a p1-p1, p2-p2 etc type of deal?

[shell hazel]

yes like auto in campaign

@deep summit I think this is about as good as you can get for now

give quantums to the 4 units with the quantum icon for arena cube

give drakeT vigor cube so that Ein gets the indom

for team 3 just run Crown p1 and biscuit P4, then cp pad the rest

run your highest cp team that can still burst

maybe this

run that as team 3 in the order previous ammo fired counts for siren burst gen in other rounds for some reason

[shell hazel]

some stuff in pins but most stuff just shoots p1

rocket launchers splash damage so if hitting p1, p2 also takes damage

sg units on def will hit your p5

[umbral crown]

Gonna do the thing in a bit

[shell hazel]

sniper rifles on attack will hit opponent p5

[magic viper]

Wow so if def is running sg, you want tankier units in p5 and overall tanky units in p1 as well