pvp-arena

[leaden canyon]

yeah you can but more cs is funny

more shots

[shell hazel]

but here on this I can't really fit all stats in anyway

I think I need to still reset more for better atk line

this little adventure cost me 21 rocks so far lol

it's a bit better than it was but sacrified some cs

[dreamy parrot]

Hey, I've been fumbling around with pvp and wanted some input on my defence teams.

[shell hazel]

feel free to post them here along with your nikkes sorted by power descending (in horizontal view preferably)

[dreamy parrot]

what's up with that shifty ping

did I forget to read the rules or smth?

[shell hazel]

it might well be 😄

[covert lintel]

@tropic summit will help you if you give him your nikke box

[shell hazel]

|| quick run away ||

[dreamy parrot]

nvm it's the emote for cd keys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020367847265927239/1414719559939653793/image.png?ex=68c097c3&is=68bf4643&hm=65eb91ff6b6aff9d23a08658379326b763dff75bb9cd1e452ab57a34f95a1c91&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020367847265927239/1414719560229195876/image.png?ex=68c097c3&is=68bf4643&hm=fdf4d5aa5603693a35708f773e2e405c08b9d7c4aac5c88e2ed6d67da601818d&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020367847265927239/1414719560648495235/image.png?ex=68c097c3&is=68bf4643&hm=acb2c538e63a1b659f3f6664e9926e971fe6a11072447c65d8277faec8a31276&

but how do I post my nikkes?

I'm on pc, I don't know how to show all of them

actually I could take a minute to get them all holon

[shell hazel]

change to horizontal mode in settings

then you can get list sorted by power

I tanked my scarlet cp by like 5K but I got crit rate and atk so I'm at 40% atk now, I'll need to refine the helm later

shame I didn't luck into crit damage on line 2 for that

[gritty ridge]

OK hippo, we're running helm indom, noah quiry, rumani bisc soda

[coarse lake]

@lusty gull do you know what's causing the burst speed order to be flipped?

I've had it happen several times from time to time, usually have to press some buttons and stuff to eventually fix it

[shell hazel]

man I dunno about how this sounds lol

I was really hoping we could run crow indom

[gritty ridge]

Crow indom is too good

[shell hazel]

too strong?

[gritty ridge]

Unfair for competition

[shell hazel]

what browser are you in? someone mentioned that burst gen wasn't right in firefox earlier but I don't use it so can't say for sure

[coarse lake]

I'm on chrome

[lusty gull]

weird, app is updated ?

[shell hazel]

yeah same here, I didn't get this yet

[coarse lake]

the pic is from someone else, but I've had it happen to myself several times in the past

[gritty ridge]

But yeah hippo ill see what I can cook when I get home

[lusty gull]

i made a mistake during an update but i fixed it quicky

some days ago

[gritty ridge]

Also, thank you @lusty gull for adding bready cs

[lusty gull]

[shell hazel]

yeah no rush tbh, can't even say if I'd run whatever we come up with haha

I'm mainly curious what you'd cook

pretend I am gordon ramsay and you're chef

[coarse lake]

yeah I can't reproduce issue with a few attempts at button pushing

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna be berated

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-cooking-gif-20155450

bigboi can I have some more rocks please so I can finish my scar rolls?

[gritty ridge]

No I need them for ele rolls on bready

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Im on snake

[shell hazel]

🐍

[coarse lake]

apparently the pic isn't too recent

guy's on firefox, chrome and brave are fine for them

[shell hazel]

@lusty gull I dunno what was going on earlier but some dude had this in firefox

[coarse lake]

maybe it was fixed recently

[shell hazel]

meanwhile chrome

I don't have firefox can't test it

[lusty gull]

so maybe the app is not updated, update is downloaded in the background while using the app, so the solution is maybe to wait a little and then reload

[gritty ridge]

Why cant I put chargespeed on liter

[shell hazel]

you can

just overload her with cs %

[coarse lake]

works fine for me on firefox

maybe adblock issues

[shell hazel]

can you try the exact same team I put down?

should be 100.4% 2RL if it's same as chrome ver I tried

[obtuse dagger]

does 150% ammo on vesti enough?

[coarse lake]

uh

bug happened lol

[lusty gull]

surely the same thing, app is not updated

[coarse lake]

I cleared party, typed in liter, clicked her, did the same to scar and trina, went to do centi, and order flipped (on firefox)

[shell hazel]

2 ammo rolls should be enough for the most part, 100% extra ammo

[coarse lake]

name is fine

it's stuck on reverse order even if I reload

[dreamy parrot]

@shell hazel Kaboom

[lusty gull]

ok this can help, i know sometimes the sort function is different depending on the browser

[coarse lake]

it's stuck reversed even if I close browser

same on private (incog)

[lusty gull]

maybe, i will look at it this week

[dreamy parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020367847265927239/1414719559939653793/image.png?ex=68c097c3&is=68bf4643&hm=65eb91ff6b6aff9d23a08658379326b763dff75bb9cd1e452ab57a34f95a1c91&
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020367847265927239/1414719560648495235/image.png?ex=68c097c3&is=68bf4643&hm=acb2c538e63a1b659f3f6664e9926e971fe6a11072447c65d8277faec8a31276&

again, with the team I've put together

[coarse lake]

hmm idk how to clear cache on firefox

ig my firefox is just borked

cleared cookies for deck, still borked

might need a pc restart or somethin

[pastel owl]

still rookie
but i think its just attacker resolve first

[shell hazel]

yeah that makes the most sense but is also kind of dumb haha

[shell hazel]

not bad, finish helm treasure when you can, I 10/10/10 mine lol. have you go trina and rumani in wishlist?

I don't see Noah :9

nor drunk scarlet

if you lack Noah then Bay treasure is a typical option but I see you may lack Bay as well

[shell hazel]

ctrl-f5 if you didn't yet

[coarse lake]

doesn't work

firefox deck still borked, I prob gotta restart

welp, not like I use firefox for deck anyway

[shell hazel]

cindy p1 bad in team 1

liter is your only b1 in t3 and is in p1 also

these are your current teams

[gritty ridge]

Is it just me or is this slower than it should be

[shell hazel]

blanc is slow

[gritty ridge]

She is, but this looks slower than it should be

[shell hazel]

best I've got, t3 is mainly just cp pad because you lack burst gen units, we actually ran out of those 2 teams ago lol

[gritty ridge]

Like, shouldn't this be 2rl?

[shell hazel]

it basically is but it's costly lol

[gritty ridge]

Im working on your teams rn

This what im thinking

And then maybe slow nero moran for t5

[shell hazel]

I would run xanne for sg team certainly I think, res + atk buff

[gritty ridge]

She wasnt in the list so I didnt use

But yeah x.anne over manchor would be better

How is your quiry btw

[shell hazel]

yeah I mentioned after she is there, not fully fully built but should be fine 😛

4/4/7 and no OL or doll levels but she's relatively safe I think in the middle

[shell hazel]

not built at all I don't really plan to build her either

[gritty ridge]

Rip

I was gonna say nero moran quiry rapu t.lap

@shell hazel behold my dish

Even if mana is uninvested she still revives

[keen vapor]

Next CA will determine whether I reset Rosanna or no

[shell hazel]

thanks bigboi, I'm off to bed in a mo will check in more detail in the am

btw you can tick the CS icon for LapT, Noah, Centi

they got 15% CS 🙂

[gritty ridge]

Oh thats genuinly nothing but benefits

If you had cs on rumani team 2 would be bricked

[shell hazel]

she has 5% CS not enough to tick la box

I think most people would still put CS on batteries like rumani long term

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but for now the slow cindy team is nice

[shell hazel]

same for biscuit prob

my biscuit has 0% lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah the cs doesnt change anything

You'd need cs on rapu and a faster b3 than mana for 3.5 t3

[shell hazel]

rapu like 8%, it does vary the numbers a bit I think but deck can't reflect it

[coarse lake]

anyone happen to have vids of these sg rosa variants against each other (xanne, manchor, bayt, noah)

[terse abyss]

is Anne: miracle fairy worth it to get? I see it does revive like rapunzel but I havent seen anybody in pvp use it yet

[signal hull]

I see no use for her tbh. Maybe in CA, but who even cares about CA.

[crystal flicker]

CA is the true PvP

RNG fest

[covert lintel]

Us, not you

[gritty ridge]

So the siren stun to protect noah is consistent, but now I have to figure out why my t1 loses now

Literally nothing changed and I lose now

[placid bloom]

you're too slow. You didn't even burst Blanc before enemy Scar bursted.

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon this exact team won earlier today

You made this team

Im gonna add a lvl 3 quantum to jackal and helm and see if I win

[covert lintel]

Don't challenge jackal with MG

[gritty ridge]

The team works, I have proof

[covert lintel]

You won probably because of your luck in s2 scar

[gritty ridge]

You think I just got unlucky with counters?

[placid bloom]

bug fix my guy

[gritty ridge]

A bug fix that happened in the last 12 hours?

[placid bloom]

you need to swap Helm out for Biscuit or another RL now to win

if you won earlier they low rolled Scarlet

like really low rolled

average roll you should always be losing with RH p4

it's not consistently fast enough

the issue is your Biscuit drops your CP too much

otherwise Biscuit is always better in that slot

[gritty ridge]

Does manchor work?

[placid bloom]

she can

[gritty ridge]

Shes my highest cp rl

Tho my biscuit is quite a bit stronger than when you last saw her

[placid bloom]

the issue is

your Helm is p3 because you're relying on Blanc taking Noah taunt to not die to counters

look at consistency diff double feed on p1 + p2 vs single feed p1

[gritty ridge]

Helm wasnt linked in the first place

[placid bloom]

with single feed you only Blanc in time if they low roll

yes if you remove RH then Helm links

that's the point

[gritty ridge]

Manchor might link

[placid bloom]

but your Blanc still has to survive the counters

which is why Biscuit is always the better p4 slot

Biscuit guarantees Blanc can never die to counter and raises your consistency

[gritty ridge]

If I drop bisc I think I lose t2 tho

[placid bloom]

you can get away with MAnchor team 1 but it just means you always have the risk of losing if Scar counter high rolls with crits

[gritty ridge]

Ill rework t2, it should work

[placid bloom]

if your Blanc dies you always lose

[gritty ridge]

Cp is fine

[placid bloom]

I don't remember what your team 2 was

but they're also committing Noah Jackal HelmT to team 1

[gritty ridge]

Noah mmast siren bisc scar

[placid bloom]

so their team 2 must surely be shit too

that's a lot of their resources gone

[gritty ridge]

Yeah like I said i just need to rework t2 a bit

Maybe ill run scar trina

[quartz rover]

this nerd

I should swap my defense up but not sure how to while also padding

[placid bloom]

is that the only guy you lose to?

[quartz rover]

yeah

[placid bloom]

if it is I wouldn't bother tbh

[quartz rover]

only recently too, he cant really beat me in rookie either

[tawdry shuttle]

what's a good team comp for S.Anis?

[quartz rover]

I

[placid bloom]

your Def already holding everyone else and worst thing you can do is end up randomly losing to someone else after changing your Def

[quartz rover]

i'm #1 in rookie without even attacking

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon you lied to me

[placid bloom]

damn your damage is so ass

[gritty ridge]

I am over 50 sync gapped

[placid bloom]

well it's time to stop fighting him I guess

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

This is my spot

[quartz rover]

stand your grounf

do you guys think the bunny milk will be a pvp nikke

[placid bloom]

could change your dps, Rapi really suffers from half frame rate in SPA. If you had SBS I wouldn't have suggested Rapi

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon check my bready team with helm pls

Bready helm linked

Theres a chance

[quartz rover]

probably wont be a pvp tbh, snipers are kinda bad right

[placid bloom]

Milk depends, she has extra dist dmg on burst on top of her shots but it's not instant. You need 10s to fully dish out her damage

[gritty ridge]

This might work pls

[placid bloom]

don't think she's a better use of Blanc than Vesti anyway

MMast is eating 2x elec counter

[covert lintel]

Fortunately he didn't attack before reset
If he is, then you need at least 100gem every 2 day

[gritty ridge]

She has lvl 6 temper cube, surely she lives

[keen vapor]

Guys, Blanc bursted on this

[placid bloom]

I think you really need double buff to make up for the sync diff + 3s of dps lost from waiting out Noah invin, and SBS is the only that is fast enough to let you RH B1

[placid bloom]

guess their team cs is nice

[gritty ridge]

If only my rosa was built

[quartz rover]

decided to yolo on vesti banner with the 10 tickets I got in mail

got her and another dupe for mmast

[covert lintel]

Blanc linked?

[placid bloom]

if you have 18% cs on Anis and 15% cs on Jackal, you can Blanc B2 before stun even if 0 cs on Vesti and Helm and Blanc not linked

cs is king

[keen vapor]

Best enemy has is 9% CS on Helm!.... Oh right, tbf non-present RL has 15% CS either on my side

[keen vapor]

That should be impossible

[placid bloom]

well only their cs matter for dodging stun

[quartz rover]

is vesti good without ol

[placid bloom]

your cs don't matter other than bursting faster

[placid bloom]

[quartz rover]

[placid bloom]

if your opponent doodoo maybe

[keen vapor]

No, Shift Up moved a thing in arena

[placid bloom]

battery can get away with no OL up to a certain point, dps cannot

[quartz rover]

ah

[keen vapor]

It's on patch notes

[placid bloom]

unless your opponent so weak they can die to OL-less dps

[covert lintel]

Even with x4 atk OL?

[quartz rover]

guess ill ol vesti and level my rapis ol gear

[keen vapor]

He doesn't

[ionic surge]

Someone slide op sp team

[covert lintel]

so that team would be below 2rl?

[gritty ridge]

Quantum on jackal/helm fixed it

@placid bloom

[placid bloom]

uh it's very close, just a few frames diff and you still lose so you can still get high rolled by Scarlet

[gritty ridge]

But its more consistent at least

This will work until rosa is built

[covert lintel]

I never get to experience that issue cause my nikkes are speed type

[gritty ridge]

What does that even mean

[covert lintel]

It means most of my nikkes have CS
Even SG

Atk stat is rare

[gritty ridge]

I was almost to the point of upgrading jackal doll for more cp

But I think most supports can be sr5

Im debating grabbing rosa an sr doll or vesti

[covert lintel]

Rosanna first

[gritty ridge]

Do mgs get atk from doll?

[covert lintel]

Any doll sr15 is an upgrade to base atk, def and hp

[keen vapor]

Anyone gets attack from doll

[placid bloom]

extra ammo from doll passive

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, been a while since I actually looked at what dolls did

I just remembered mg doll past sr5 isnt that important in pve

[placid bloom]

I just know MG is extra ammo and SR is charge dmg multiplier

the rest I don't remember

cuz they all suck

[gritty ridge]

Think resident evil is gonna give us a pvp unit?

[covert lintel]

Not normal atk?

[keen vapor]

Nah

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

I'm betting on electric units

[placid bloom]

seem some are shared

[gritty ridge]

So sg doll is nice

Sr15 all clip sg

[covert lintel]

That's my plan after vesti

[gritty ridge]

Im just gonna do soda and drake for now

I wont need sanis for a few months

[covert lintel]

Hope they don't release pvp nikke anytime soon

[keen vapor]

Nah, I'm resetting Noir

[gritty ridge]

Why? You not use on sg team?

[keen vapor]

No

[gritty ridge]

What you run?

[keen vapor]

Either Grave or Mari

[covert lintel]

Cause you can't ca?

[gritty ridge]

Grave??

[keen vapor]

I can

[gritty ridge]

Why

[keen vapor]

Buffer is buffer

[gritty ridge]

Noir is a buffer

[keen vapor]

10% attack

[gritty ridge]

Thats alot

[keen vapor]

No

[gritty ridge]

Do you use viper b2 then?

Or are you feeding sg team quantums

[keen vapor]

Normal DPS*

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

I invested Doro, Drake and Soda and they aren't getting benched

[placid bloom]

so we running slow SG

[gritty ridge]

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

2 clips + Grave burst gen buff ain't slow

[placid bloom]

Grave burst gen only kick in after you end burst no? Cuz she has to be in exhaust state

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

Before burst shes just meh

Non clip sg tier iirc

[placid bloom]

[umbral crown]

grave or mari

[keen vapor]

So, when needed?

[gritty ridge]

Hwat

[placid bloom]

we doing 2 rotation SG in CA?

[keen vapor]

Oh I get it, she finishes reload before the 15 seconds

[gritty ridge]

Are you saying youre bursting twice with sg comp

[placid bloom]

this some new tech

[gritty ridge]

Speaking of sg, does someone wanna cook me my CA teams

My units/invests have greatly changed since my last CA

[keen vapor]

Mmmm

@clear vessel how are your CA teams

Can you feel it? The champion power

[gritty ridge]

I cooked for hippo already so im so eepy sleepy

[umbral belfry]

you about to be feeling something else

[keen vapor]

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[fast jetty]

why is my 2RL noise noah not good against scalet (game 3)? is it that my noise has blue doll and died too fast?

wrong replay format*

[fast jetty]

oh well.. noah failed to burst
ig my 2RL isn't 2RL enough

[fast jetty]

💀 cause it is not 2RL ok..

should i use this team in the pinned instead?

[clear vessel]

They feel like I havent invested in PvP

[hollow hamlet]

What's a good resource for learning about optimizing PvP lineups? I'd like to learn more about the mechanics and why some of my good units (in PVE) get wrecked

[keen vapor]

Getting Cindy to 2RL speed is very hard tbh

[keen vapor]

Not even Centi? Does she gets you less power than Tia?

[clear vessel]

Not even Centi...

[gritty ridge]

Using 4 clip rl on cindy feels terrible

[placid bloom]

I don't even use Cinderella anymore and I don't even have Vesti

[clear vessel]

My Tia kinda OP tbh. Its because she was main team for a long time with Naga

[keen vapor]

Have you saw #1153017654332883055 ? Is what we have for now (bc I get too busy to write due to getting sniped on Arena)

[fast jetty]

same
also no time to fight the jobless guys in sp arena who will attack me back in 1 hour

[hollow hamlet]

thanks, now I just have to figure out how to minmax for fun and sniping

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

Vesti the GOAT OF MOB CLEARING WOOOOOOO Lets gooooo

[fast jetty]

i just need to borrow helm from vesti team and try it out since 2RL noah is supposed to be good against scarlet. or i can do 2RL noah SBS

hard 40-35 wow nice

[tulip quest]

Like vesti is supposedly pvp character, except that She outdps most characters in their own Element

True damage shines in decifit

Anniv character maybe true damage? Dunno

would be interesting tho

[keen vapor]

But Laplace

[tulip quest]

Her mob clearing is kinda bad

True damage only in burst

afterwards no true damage

[umbral crown]

In Pins should be enoug info about it

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

hi

[heavy copper]

hi guys, can someone help me 3team for attack in sp arena pls, the nikke with level 1 is ok i will bring them to the syc

[hollow hamlet]

If I post an attempt at a lineup do you guys promise to laugh and mock me?

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You awake cook

[umbral crown]

im eating dinner

[keen vapor]

villains only encourage you

[keen vapor]

At almost 1 am?

[umbral crown]

yeah, sometimes i do it

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-serious-glasses-cute-gif-12534957

[keen vapor]

Cat

[clever dock]

is it possible to build three teams that counter nukes, especially 2rl nukes, with these (and sbs)? everyone and their mother is running nukes in both arenas, i managed to put together 3rl and 4rl nukes, and i'm sick of jackal/centi/thelm/biscuit/mbc/etc. havers destroying them with facts and logic

[umbral crown]

with your current units we could suggest more optimal teams, wait a bit

[keen vapor]

I'm not gonna lie, I liked last one just swap Summer anis with Anis and Naga with Centi

[hollow hamlet]

got it, I can post all the units I have too.

[hollow hamlet]

doesn't that leave me with 1 B3 in third team?

[keen vapor]

I don't think it's possible without Emilia and tactical Vesti

But I think too straight forward so maybe that Mihara Cindy comp....

[keen vapor]

Sir, PVP doesn't needs second B3

We finish in one burst, cut and simple

Also Moran is 40s, so is the same as 1 B3 on campaign

[clever dock]

that's sr mihara 💀

[hollow hamlet]

Could put in Pepper instead of Moran?

[keen vapor]

SSR one, sorry :deadge:

[hollow hamlet]

ofc I still die to nukes but doesn't sound like I can do much about that.

[keen vapor]

What no
I said I liked Moran comp

Didn't you listened when I said we only need one B3

[hollow hamlet]

Yes, I did. I understand. Just mentioning that I had another unit that was ranked highly in PVP, not suggesting that I was going to get in two bursts.

[keen vapor]

Mmmmmm

Not replacing Moran, but maybe taking Anis place

pepper shouldn't have higher ranking than A or B

[gilded vigil]

vesti is good for campaign??

[umbral crown]

Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Noir Or Centi/Jackal
Noise/Noise/Cinderella/Biscuit/Rumani
Moran/HelmT/Bay/LaplaceT/Rapunzel

the ones bellow are other options you could do based of what you are facing , also you need to know how the B2 for each team works and what they do like bay blocks nukes scarlet, cindy or helmt but against Ein, Vesti not gonna work cuz they have true damage. against sanis and sbs bay just buys some time

Ein/HelmT/Blanc/Red Hood/Jackal
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Jackal or Rapunzel

Ein/X.Maiden/M.Anchor/Red Hood/Jackal

[river nest]

Good night, what could be the best 3 teams with 2RL if you can use any unit? I just create this deck but I dont know is there a better comp.

[gilded vigil]

i thought vesti was just for pvp

[umbral crown]

in brackets with low pvp invest but when you face some invested units its always nice to have a b3 back up

[gilded vigil]

and raids

[umbral crown]

mostly pvp but can have some use in pve

[umbral crown]

before that emi 25 means 25% cs from OL and S1 lv10 which really few people have, you can change biscuit for Red Hood but these days with vesti unprotected wind units between p1-p3 are not safe but if we guess you have all units and invested could be 2RL cindy, 2 RL scar buffed, 2 RL vesti but lastly vesti is stealing jackal from scar

[river nest]

Thanks for the advice 🫡
My Emilia just reached 24.7% CS and I recently got VestiTU so thats why I was asking

[umbral crown]

in that case.... 2 RL vesti the indom version is strong: Jackal/VestiT/Emilia/LaplaceT/Blanc
2 RL scar with trina and you could get the rest to fill it, but if going the noah verson make sure you have biscuit with her cuz another enemy vesti could delete your noah before bursting

like this noah

[hollow hamlet]

I may try it. Thanks for the advice I will give this a try!

[raven plover]

how many pulls for mlb besti

[umbral crown]

i used tix for mlb

but got her lb1 with 20 pulls

[raven plover]

600?

ohh congrats

[umbral crown]

the rest with tix

[umbral crown]

used that to C3 tho

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

me 120 pulls just 1 besti

[umbral crown]

when CA is close i tend to do crazy things

[river nest]

I will try. Your help is apreciated. 🫡

[umbral crown]

if you using this team, you could use blanc P4 or P5

[umbral crown]

i had to make some ajustment to give link to laplace instead emi, emilia was stealing the indom

but laplace was similar hp before i c3 vesti so should be fine

[dreamy parrot]

Just woke up, thanks for putting all this together.
I still have a lot to learn and am not sure where to learn.

Even stuff like why everything is measured by 2RL 2.5RL 3RL

[covert lintel]

Wow even p4 get nuked

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

In mobs stage, especially fire weak.

She does about as good as Rapipi or a bit better

Basically a heavily buffed version of Emi.

[gilded vigil]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[solid gorge]

Good time to wake up

[covert lintel]

She's bad against ball rapture that spinning around

Whiffing hard

[swift mango]

Just hit other mobs for AoE to hit them. If I was able to use Emi to deal with those mobs in Normal stage then Vesti is fine to deal with them in hard stage.

[shell hazel]

it just is I suppose, RL is the time it takes for batteries like centi/trina to fire 1 rocket

so 3RL is 3 rocket time, or about 3 seconds

if you have the resources to get new Vesti then she'd be worth building to replace SBS in your team 2

otherwise note what I said you're missing some core units that could let you build out more team options, no trina, noah, rumani, scarlet, all should be in your wishlist

[dreamy parrot]

Ofcourse

I'm getting the summer units right now, so no vesti for me

[shell hazel]

you don't really need them tbh, outside of s.anis

so depends if you're a collector

[dreamy parrot]

blows my mind on how hard it is attacking aswell

so many counters

[swift mango]

If he wanted to do his best in Solo raid, S.Helm is also very needed

[atomic wolf]

bro is losing to 3rl Noah

[shell hazel]

they have s.helm already 🙂

got more of the summer units than I do haha, I stopped at s.anis, s.helm, and xanne. xanne is mostly for CA though

[swift mango]

You have your 300k gems, pulls some more.

[dreamy parrot]

I religiously go for MLB, I'll just wait to get Vesti by chance

[shell hazel]

is not worth in this economy

[dreamy parrot]

I know she's meta but I'm conflicted.

[shell hazel]

1 copy of vesti is all you need

• resources to build her ofc

[dreamy parrot]

yeah I really ought to think about it

50 pulls

[shell hazel]

makes attacking easier

looks like you had most of the summer units who are you missing from them?

[dreamy parrot]

oh I'm really just getting MLBs

but yeah I'll go for Vesti

since it seems like we might get a banner like this again next yera anyway

[shell hazel]

of the summer units only really s.anis is potentially worth additional copies

if you can get 1 vesti then you can switch back to whatever, though we do have the resi evil colab coming at some point

[dreamy parrot]

yeah that's brutal lmao

I wasn't playing around the time or the re:zero one, and it sucks to think my max core is gimped now

the FOMO is real

[shell hazel]

which max core?

[dreamy parrot]

I meant syncro max

[shell hazel]

you mean the level cap?

[dreamy parrot]

Yep

[shell hazel]

I'm 385/646 got a while to go yet lol

[dreamy parrot]

yeah nah there's a high chance I never hit it

but we level up faster then they release characters

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't think you will so MLB shouldn't be a chief concern

levels slow down a lot as you go though, more and more resources needed especially after 400

[dreamy parrot]

it's like 15000 core at that point right?

[shell hazel]

12000 from 400 onwards I think it's 11k for me now

[dreamy parrot]

oh damn I thought it's 15k

I'm at 11k rn

[shell hazel]

you can naturally mlb a lot of the old units with social recruits and ordinary tickets and things over time

[dreamy parrot]

Yeah I've always just kind of hand waved any kind of logic intentionally

but I'll probably only limit that thinking to collab units

since really I didn't expect a banner like this one we have for summer and winter

[shell hazel]

shift up getting greedy

[dreamy parrot]

I guess it could be seen as greed

since they don't make it official

if we knew this exact banner happens at this exact time next year we'd probably spend less

[shell hazel]

lots of banners in general in the last year, and lots of re-runs

they could do something similar for pilgrims as well, multi-pilgrim selector for older ones

then we get fomo of people trying to MLB RH or Crown or w/e

[dreamy parrot]

or just a free selector, so I could nab Scarlet or Noah

that'd be convenient

[shell hazel]

shift up could never

[swift mango]

It's additional 1000 every 50 level starting 351

[shell hazel]

my biggest barrier isn't usually core dust anymore it's more credits or battle data 😛

[dreamy parrot]

where does it cap?

15k? or does it just keep going

[swift mango]

It keep going

[shell hazel]

but a lot of people report that credits is the biggest issue down the line, I can believe it

[dreamy parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/forget-everything-you-know-forgot-forgor-gif-25501304

[swift mango]

Especially with current economy of long event. That extra time of farming 4 core dust box.

They don't do 2 week event anymore. SU sneakily reduce overall reward.

After adding just 36 max per ca.

[shell hazel]

yeah and even then I don't like to sit there and work out the winner, as you can't easily compare the teams 😄

so I just get lazy and pick the one with the highest % even if it's the loser

[swift mango]

I just quickly check when I have time and not the one in the bet now.

It's more about mood as it only take a glance.

[shell hazel]

yeah just can't see both sets of 5 teams on screen at once ;S

[north brook]

You do need to spend some event attempts on credits above 500~550ish

Or spend money

[swift mango]

Zero rock today.

[shell hazel]

yup am out basically as well gotta save up more rocks again

[swift mango]

Funny how I got Ele easily when hunting for CS

[north brook]

Me with jackal getting blue elem and black atk lines, trying to get one more cs

[shell hazel]

and when you're on an mg unit you get black line CS 😄

[north brook]

Black line hit rate very epic

[swift mango]

I still remember wasting 100 rock trying to get rid of CS on Crown and fail.

The trauma.

[shell hazel]

I gather my rocks to spend them but I'm always scared to do it as they disappear so fast

scarlet needs more rocks still, but I can see the end in sight for her at least

vesti needs a lot more rocks

[crystal flicker]

I'm so close to reach 21% CS comp

I also need to start upgrading RL to SR15

[lusty gull]

sort is fixed @coarse lake

[mystic rain]

i didnt even get any rocks today 😭

and i didnt get any t9m that i was farming for either bro nmy progression has been bricked for the past month

[nimble swan]

If you have seen my Scarlet you would cry

I have only one ATK line (at least it’s black), 50+ ELE, idk how much crit, a black CS line that keeps my CP high so it’s not easy to get rid of it, especially in my bracket. Basically I can’t roll another ATK line without locking 2 lines or complete rerolling

[raven plover]

I do wish I have 300k like @keen vapor too

[swift mango]

he had 400

[jolly maple]

fake hobo status smh

[raven plover]

I only have 3k

[jolly maple]

hobo status partially restored

[swift mango]

My Gemmer woke up and chose violence.

[swift mango]

Last you showed you had over 100k.

[raven plover]

all gone trying to mlb ade and besti, its over for me

[shell hazel]

at some point you gotta bite the bullet and full roll I think

just need enough rocks to have a shot at fixing it

I lowered scar cp but she should be more effective now. I will need further rocks though

[nimble swan]

yeah i have a few units waiting 50% + reroll

[shell hazel]

can see myself using rock for the next month or two just fixing up vesti and scar lol, let alone rolling CS for my batteries

[nimble swan]

now i'm praying for kraken to give me rocks until friday so i can up my 3rd CS line value on Vesti before CA

is 15% enough?

it should be okayish I think

[swift mango]

Only lock line 3. Line 2 if it's a vital line that you want 4 like ATK.

Line 1 only if it's black line of something you need.

[swift mango]

Take 3-5 minutes to make them into this

[nimble swan]

Yeah there's some legacy stuff on units from before..
That black CS line is from months before when I was in dire need of CP, every fight I shot up the calculator because i was always sync and cp gapped

[shell hazel]

it does but I'm not 3-5 mins is worth potential 6 credit cases tbh 😄

I tend to only bother analysing my own games a bit

[swift mango]

Well, depending on how efficient your and the tool you have it could take only 10-30 second

[nimble swan]

I should have asked for this feature in the survey!

[shell hazel]

this is what the game should just do tbh, then I'd actually bother looking at them

[nimble swan]

they want us to vote but can't compare teams

[heavy hearth]

What’s a good counter for these teams?

[swift mango]

Well, if it was a team you Invested enough in, you would naturally remember your 5 teams and their position. The rest is just to look at the enemies team. Ofc I'm lazy in the recent season.

[shell hazel]

yeah that is my problem too and I do sometimes swap the order about as I feel like it

[swift mango]

Prepare to sell your kidney to pull RE Collab next month then.

[raven plover]

just need the adv ticket from event shop trust

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[swift mango]

4 SSR banners would be fire.

[raven plover]

4 ssr banners?!

[swift mango]

If SU really wanted the money.

[raven plover]

I dont play RE tho, whos 4 girls from the franchise

[swift mango]

https://www.evilcontrollers.com/blog/post/five-iconic-female-characters-in-resident-evil-franchise?srsltid=AfmBOopwXkdR35-Y_LQBTJJesaEMpjvQRa9P47LQRAjp5cvrKKZsRGXm

I mean they have enough cakes in the franchise and SR could be little girl Sherry.

[glad meteor]

Jill
Ada
Claire
Maybe sheva

[signal hull]

Oh gods, not Sheva please... Don't want this in Nikke...

[glad meteor]

Yes sheva

[nimble swan]

Point on. But credit card is already crying in the corner

Well, first 3 is undisputed, for 4th I could agree with Rebecca for example

[glad meteor]

Forgot who that is

[nimble swan]

Rebecca Chambers, she was a medic/scientist in the first game, had her own game as MC in RE:0

[glad meteor]

I got re games on PlayStation. But console went to poop

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

That lady dimitrescu one doesn’t look accurate

[nimble swan]

I had to buy another PS1 few years ago for same reason

[runic coral]

do re-entry units like tia still need another b1 to complete burst in pvp?

[raven plover]

[nimble swan]

Claire one is quite good. Except she should look a bit younger to be lore accurate

[raven plover]

yes

[raven plover]

[glad meteor]

The faces are off

[swift mango]

I picked out the pics that I think to be sexier ones of them.

And I think it was the model from a remake.

[raven plover]

I only know Ada and Leon

[swift mango]

Okay it was a cosplay

[swift mango]

@raven plover

Here's the real Claire.

[nimble swan]

I thought it's also AI

[swift mango]

Hard to find Claire with a sexy pose.

[nimble swan]

Ada was always the main goon one

[raven plover]

not big enough, ok skip

[swift mango]

This 2.9 meters tall mommy should be big enough for you.

[shell hazel]

bring me the banners

[raven plover]

too tall for me, Im 1 meter guy

[shell hazel]

smaller boxes for hobo life

[swift mango]

Darn, so you are into grade schooler.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-angry-gif-23908392

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-kana-gif-7441334008951759059

[swift mango]

I mean, there is no reason to go above 3 banners if they didn't include Lady D. She is a fan favorite and has limited availability to be played. So that would awake lots of collector bloods

[nimble swan]

bruh I lold on this one the previous 2 i've already seen

[nimble swan]

Yeah true, but SU has already been broken the barrier with Eva2 (arguably with reruns)

[shell hazel]

so ... many... banners

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[nimble swan]

I wonder if anni 3 = banner x3?

hopefully not

[signal hull]

Haven't been home for a week and look what they turned pvp channel into 😠

Nah, I'm just kidding, idc, do whatever...

[swift mango]

Not by much tbh.

[glad meteor]

Is it cosplay?

[glad meteor]

Ah

I thought it was 3d at first

[shell hazel]

then 4th anni can be 4 x banners

[nimble swan]

pls no?

[swift mango]

the pic above your comment is from official game.

[glad meteor]

I was refereing to other pic of course

And no more ping

pvp channel dead. Besti killed everyone

[keen vapor]

You said no more ping

[glad meteor]

MA booli

[swift mango]

I'm pinging you.

[swift mango]

Everyone gets a ping.

[keen vapor]

What but our official booli is Hime

[swift mango]

Think bigger

1st anni 1 banner
2nd anni 1x2=2 banners.
3rd anni 1x2x3=6 banners.
4th anni 1x2x3x4=24 banners.
5th anni last the whole year. Then EoS.

[keen vapor]

4 beast + Nayuta & Pinocho :0

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[unique mountain]

Uoh

[tropic summit]

the prophet has spoken

[tropic summit]

these are very bad teams, your teams are on the left

for T3, vestiTU can be any burst B3 like Ein or ReiT or even BSoda considering you only need to wipe enemy p2 to prevent burst chain

[heavy hearth]

Sadly I don’t have noise also missing Emilia

[tropic summit]

that's fine just need to match burst speed and avoid using B2 or B3 in p1 or p2

here you go, option 2 can let centi die for all it matters

[heavy hearth]

Thanks you are the best. What site are you using?

[tropic summit]

sheets in the pins, else you can also use this, mobile friendly https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[gritty ridge]

Hey rail👉👈

You wanna cook me CA teams pretty pls👉👈

[tropic summit]

you can cook them yourself don't you

[gritty ridge]

Your cook got me out of groups

Im also in a weird middle ground where I can make meta teams but also cant at the same time

[tropic summit]

post your box then

i won't spend too much time nitpicking it, i'll leave it to you

[gritty ridge]

Hippo asked me for a cook last night and the more I look at it the worse I think I did lol

[swift mango]

Bready Bready Bready Bready Bready
X5

There, your 5 team.

[gritty ridge]

Oh thank you

[shell hazel]

haha I was waiting for you to come online, I don't think it was bad

but I had some teams I think I kind of needed to build, and then it fell down to what was left

like I need to run nero/moran stall as I invested it

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, I was gonna but vesti needed helm lol

[shell hazel]

can 2rl scar without jackal, then jackal vesti

your teams were largely similar to what I had last time I think with some modifications in what was where

[nimble swan]

ah I see people cooking for CA when I actually wanted to look at what i can cook

@shell hazel still 0lb Nero you have?

[shell hazel]

yeah :9

I need to whale more apparently lol

[nimble swan]

lol, it is what it is

I got the last Laplace copy I need, and i'm now thinking if I should start to build her, or try to SR15 Vesti, from SR10

for me SR15 can be troublesome and take too many resources, so my reserves might not be enough for both

[shell hazel]

hmmm decisions decisions

I suppose LapT only works with SR-15 where vesti is sort of fine as SR-5 or onwards

but I have both done so not really a decision I had to make

[nimble swan]

actually i haven't tested much my Vesti, only fought a few one

so I guess then I will prioritize Lap+

i will test what she can do with SR 10 and 4/9/9

[shell hazel]

don't think you'd see a huge gap in CA between SR-10 and SR-15

[nimble swan]

yeah, it's more like survivability, but it shouldn't be an issue as she'll be in a fast indom comp likely

[gritty ridge]

Thank you rail

[gritty ridge]

No rosa?

[tropic summit]

your rosa looks weak af

[shell hazel]

where's bready?

[tropic summit]

his bready can't use mmast

[shell hazel]

no bready 🙁

[gritty ridge]

Rosa is weak but shes still fast. Ill use these tho

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-thumbsup-ok-smile-gif-11279369403948550569

Insane cooks

[tulip quest]

Rosa needs attack, Ele, crit if possible

[tulip quest]

His Vesti not built?

[gritty ridge]

She is not

[tulip quest]

Aight

[gritty ridge]

Im still relatively low sync, its taking a while to build up all my units

2-3 days per overload piece

[tulip quest]

That's normal rate tho for normal players

even me It takes about same time for 1 OL

dun worry

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit, jack, and noah are abt my only invested pvp utilities atp

Theyre 3 good ones at least

Rosa, trina, rumani, and noise all need work

[tulip quest]

Tho she is GOATED in MOB Clearing Meta SSS I would say because of true damage, Ignoring Armor really good in deficit.

If you have extra build her she is META Also in pvp

[keen vapor]

Is this doable?

Who I'm trying to fool XP figured my def already

[tulip quest]

That level difference is brutal

[keen vapor]

But I trust Vesti

[tulip quest]

I havent tested that maybe their emila kills ur Vesti before noah burst?

risky

[keen vapor]

I shouldn't have rejected that elemental line on Emilia

[tulip quest]

Worth a try tho I mean that emilia is Blue doll

Silver lining

tho a question if she has ele or not

is still a ?

[gentle harness]

Both t1's work, but not sure I really like either...

[gritty ridge]

Whats wrong with the second one?

[desert knoll]

PVP KINGS, I BESEECH YOU, ASSEMBLE MY ROOKIE AND SP ARENA TEAM

AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[tropic summit]

it's the weaker version of blood's rookie team

rosanna and force them to B3 with RH on your invulnerable noah

else just bypass with s.anis on 1RL higher

[tropic summit]

look at his box and u can tell

[gritty ridge]

Why they keep attacking me

[tropic summit]

because that's how rookie is meant to be, test your teams

[gritty ridge]

I wish I could test my teams

Im hoping my rank 1 in spa will shuffle into my rookie

I can talk to him to test teams for eachother

Thank you again tho rail

[gritty ridge]

Did you take a break from the game?

You have low sync compared to the units you have

[shell hazel]

you're too strong that's the issue

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[desert knoll]

sorta, i quit playing a few days during launch, and played the game again during the D.ark hero event

[crystal flicker]

F

[fleet acorn]

how much CS i want on vesti to make her viable? 15% or 18%?

[desert knoll]

can you help me with the team king

[tropic summit]

Rookie

jackal siren scarlet trina helmt

SP arena

jackal scarlet trina drakeT SBS
naga rouge cindy centi helmt
blanc rh biscuit noir rumani

notes:

raise CP asap on the following:

-blanc, biscuit, jackal, rumani, centi
-wishlist noah
-consider building bayT as you lack noah

get your teams reviewed once the above is available

[tropic summit]

enough to hit 2RL, you can mess around with it here https://nikke.work/

ensure she's behind noah or indommed

[fleet acorn]

on my server (JP) people are using jackal/blanc/vesti/X/X

[crystal flicker]

Rail the PeakVP MA

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

18 brings you to pretty deadly with decent investment

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-14651222

[fleet acorn]

assuming ill get 4 CS lines, how should i distribute her atk/ele/ammo?

[tropic summit]

x2 ammo is essential, atk/ele/crit is good to have

[swift mango]

If the CS and ammo all needed, you may gamble line 3 I guess. If you were fine with any of the 4 line Crit, Crit dmg, Ele, ATK .

Still pretty expensive.

[crystal flicker]

I can beat 2RL Cindy with 2.5 VesTac

[fleet acorn]

thx

[crystal flicker]

With 0 ATK ELE

Iirc tho

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Feel like we have exchanged places from a few months ago.

We have started to feed the effect powercreep and level gap.

[tropic summit]

tell him to join a union already

[fleet acorn]

also can i be a bit greedy and aks for sp defense suggestion? i started to get more people atking me, they follow jp metas (since jp server), img is sorted by cp

[swift mango]

He hasn't even open his box for 2 months or clear newest chapter.

Bro maybe just quit or sell his account soon

[tropic summit]

what are OLs on emilia and vestiTU

[tropic summit]

i hope everyday my top 3 finally decide to stop contributing to a piss poor game, and yet the money flows ♿

[fleet acorn]

a bit bad, i was using emilia as a battery, vsti i just pulled and OL her since i saw her everywhere in jp, so need to reroll

[tropic summit]

hmm ok

[umbral crown]

Waos

[fleet acorn]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?lang=en&gameid=29080&openid=MjkwODAtNTAxNDEyMjk3MDEwMjYxODE2 this is my blabla if it helps to check OLs

[shell hazel]

haha way too late, I got line 3 ele in the end I think

[swift mango]

Well, now reroll back that CS and ammo.

[shell hazel]

I'm OK with it I think 😛

[swift mango]

My teams were simple,

Noah+biscuit+Cindy+Noise 2.5rl.

2RL Moran+Bay

2RL pure glass cannon Scar+Trina+RH

So just 2 tanky team, 1 high dmg team, high CP and 20 level gap do the business.

[shell hazel]

what I left it at

I'll probably aim for 12/12 lines and:
4 x atk
2 x ammo
2 x CS
rest can be ele / crit rate

[tropic summit]

🐳

[shell hazel]

far from perfect tbh but gotta start somewhere

[tropic summit]

i can beat those, tell the opponent to join discord and ask help

also where's your vesti

in the moran team?

[swift mango]

It's easy, my Gemmer didn't even need 1 fail to beat. But to guys getting CP gap, those tanky and high dmg team are just hell.

I have the experience from helping bricked people fighting power gap so I know what works when you have the investment and Lv over them.

[swift mango]

She is lower CP and not enough CS. Drake is better to pressure p5. With CP gapping team.

[umbral crown]

Waoa, strong

[fleet acorn]

forgot to mention my cubes, lvl 15 resi, lvl 10 bastion, quantum, tempering, lvl 9 adjutant, lvl 8 vigor, lvl 6 endurance and healing, thanks in advance

[umbral crown]

Mine is just a bit more elaborated,
nero team quiry version 3 RL,
2 RL vesti jackal laplace emi blanc,
Noah x maiden biscuit sanis noise

[covert lintel]

Below 1minute response

[swift mango]

My lv gapping mate.

[swift mango]

Ah, unlucky

[swift mango]

But yeah, I intended to swap Vesti in to replace Drake when she had enough charge speed.

[covert lintel]

But that's not 47lv gap
He's gemmer

[swift mango]

I mean you also gapping most of the F2P in your bracket because gem claim and high level.

[umbral crown]

He was waiting for you

[tropic summit]

was fairly conflicted because your invest is half and half, run these 2 for 24hrs and see whichever perfoms better
upgrade your emilia and vestiTU and you can then make much better threat teams

notes:

v1 T1: sacc's emilia
v1 T2: assumes SBS and drakeT are linked
v1 T3: preferable team is 2RL on 11%CS average, makes it siren resistant

v2 T1: nothing particular, extra value if siren is linked
v2 T2: prefers 2.5RL via CS%
v2 T3: as for v1

[umbral crown]

Gogo tried to do the thing but failed

[swift mango]

Unrequited love.

[covert lintel]

Nah, below 20lv difference is not much any different

[umbral crown]

I cna confirm that

Pelg is close to 461 and im 428 , still doing fine against him

[covert lintel]

Yeah, 2 people below me always like that

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I have seen guy getting gapped by 20% vs enemy of same synch. Nothing is impossible.

[covert lintel]

Even though emoclew defense is easier than mine, no one hit him

[tulip quest]

Yea he just told me couple minutes ago

[covert lintel]

All 12lines and max cores?

[swift mango]

Probably

[fleet acorn]

thx Orz, can i have your expected investment for emilia and vesti as reference?

and yeah i been doing some half nad half for CA, like i did doll15 moran nero etc with max skills etc

[tulip quest]

They got nothing to lose man in rookie

[tropic summit]

vesti x2 ammo, x4 cs%, added value for any atk/crit/ele line (expect at least 2 atk% lines)
emilia atk% x4, 1-2 ammo, cs% x4

[swift mango]

You sure?

[tropic summit]

why does this guy run x14 rookie attempts

mental hospital soon

[swift mango]

He is rich and love to gem.

[covert lintel]

To learn without googling

[tropic summit]

sounds more like ♿

[tropic summit]

bruteforce ftw

[fleet acorn]

thx, sp arenas closes at reset, so will take a bit for me to get back at you, i still really appreciate your time and hope you can help me on the future after i gather some feedbck

[swift mango]

It's 12, you counted right the first time.

[tropic summit]

oh ok

[tropic summit]

ye sure, once vestiTU and emilia are ready, can work on the as-is

hit the chat once those are done

[fleet acorn]

i was working rosanna 4atk 4 ele, but will give prio to vesti and emilia

first vesti right?

[tropic summit]

i guess, both are very useful units

that's why i've both

[fleet acorn]

also, will trina be fine at p5 vs shotgun?

[tropic summit]

on attack, you'll tailor the teams as needed (enemy shotguns shoot p5 only when you attack)
on defense, opponent can work around that regardless

[fleet acorn]

i see thx

[tropic summit]

arguably although if laplace is linked she's best in p5 so you can turn that around

emilia scarlet trina ros laplaceT/drakeT

that way you'll receive at least feed from enemy SRs

although it won't play much of an impact

[fleet acorn]

tbh wont be link since jackal is on team 2

[tropic summit]

ye then it won't matter much aside reducing SRs dmg on p5 unit

can still rotate it to peel better on the unit with highest DR (treasured)

[fleet acorn]

yeah i was thinking on put laplace p5, in case enemy red hood

[tropic summit]

sure sounds good then

it's a good min/maxing idea

[fleet acorn]

thx, gonna be working around this 2 version this week and give a feedback later, thx again

[tulip quest]

Mental Illness XD

[tropic summit]

happy huntin'

[keen vapor]

That never works
Even less on 80 level deficit

[solid flare]

what is the default rookie defense when you are below CP comparatively?

[tropic summit]

oh you're on deficit

then ripperoni

[solid flare]

mihara sac?

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing, you'll lose

unless opponent is a monkey

[swift mango]

The def is just don't bother

[solid flare]

right, but lets say i want to troll

[tropic summit]

mihara dot on deficit tickles while your team is dead within seconds

still wouldn't make it

the only option on deficit is biscuit locked teams and even then opponent just needs to use a unit that backstabs

[swift mango]

soda+Trina+Scarlet

[tropic summit]

not even, soda is dead, even if linked

[solid flare]

tell me about the biscut thing

[tropic summit]

this one is the closest you can get to deal something while on deficit, as true damage reduces the advantage from penalty

[solid flare]

i have this right now, and i want to see if, cindy siren, rapunzle noise mihara would offer any possible changes.

dont ask me why brid is up there.

[tropic summit]

that's weak to several things

[dire root]

That is crazy.

58k gap

[tropic summit]

campaign team on opponent side

[solid flare]

thats kinda why im asking for advice here.

[dire root]

Still a large gap.

considering my entire team is full invested besides SR 15 on blanc

[tropic summit]

you only need 387k

[dire root]

Never happening

[tropic summit]

consider yourself lucky it's only invest difference and not level difference

[dire root]

I couldn't reach 387k with my defict crush team

[tropic summit]

coulda been worse

[dire root]

They are just better I guess

[tropic summit]

what? you can beat that

[dire root]

Nah.

I don't have the units

[tropic summit]

you have them

it's a 4RL team with only p1 targetting

[dire root]

[solid flare]

there very little difference in the levels and the dupes, the main difference is in the OL lines and (if your gear is leveled/OL-ed)

[tropic summit]

try either of these 2

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit, you don't need noah, add a treasured unit instead

also why is jackal still on blue doll

and don't burst with helmT, burst with a nuker

[dire root]

I miss read

[dire root]

I think Helm is my only treasured unit.

[tropic summit]

can you show your box?

might be missing something silly

[solid flare]

OK thanks.

[tropic summit]

check CP with this

[twilit bay]

Will
Jackal, Vesti, Helm, Blanc, Centi
beat
Noah, Biscuit, Emilia, Helm, RH?

[tropic summit]

yes, you outtrade during indom, as long as vesti has optimal OLs

[twilit bay]

a slower Vesti would be better though, right?

[tropic summit]

team can be 2RL, as opponent is also 2RL

your second barrage will slaughter them onward

[twilit bay]

I see, thank you

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

aye looks good

[shell hazel]

wait

what speed are we? siren stuns

your only b1

[tropic summit]

2RL from 91%

[shell hazel]

does it check out in nikke.work?

[dire root]

2 MGs feeding jackal

[shell hazel]

true

[tropic summit]

just look at the feed

[shell hazel]

as long as jackal b1 we're good

[tropic summit]

if he really wanted to play it safe he can replace alice with RH

although i feel he could have better use with her in other 2 teams

[dire root]

[tropic summit]

what is that

[dire root]

Fine

[tropic summit]

it's a 2RL scarlet, you're ded

[tropic summit]

run this

[dire root]

When I have a 1% defict scarlet does nothing

[tropic summit]

oh you're gapping them oke

keep in mind scarlet can handle deficit up to 18-20%

and you're feeding them into 1.5-1.7RL

[dire root]

I wish I had trina

[tropic summit]

just run the above, you're safe

[dire root]

I did 100 pulls when her banner was up and nothing

[tropic summit]

ye RNG sucks

[shell hazel]

solution: || 💳 ||

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-credit-card-debit-card-debit-gif-27376677

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/totally-spies-clover-credit-cards-is-there-anything-they-cant-do-unlocking-door-gif-22681980

[dire root]

Safer?

Noah probably just dies

[shell hazel]

we need 2RL

we can lose rumani as RH is here

you need native 2RL

[dire root]

2 RL is hard without jackal and helm.

[shell hazel]

diff battery to sbs

[dire root]

diff battery?

[shell hazel]

?

got xmaiden

rumani can afford to die at p1 with RH on the team

[dire root]

I don't think I have been around for a xmaiden banner.

[shell hazel]

damn

?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

quant 7 on rumani and centi

wtf rail I didn't see your post I swear it 😄

we just had the same units / diff order

[dire root]

Btw should I hold my ordinary vouchers for vesti and ade into main pool?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-yes-yeah-yas-nods-gif-4361784

I am, you should

all the new units, I'm probably waiting for anni tbh, so like 6 weeks?

[dire root]

I just need one more copy of laplace for treasure.

[shell hazel]

the rumani comp above is good as biscuit ensures you can't die

my version or rail one it's same thing basically

extra quantum would assure the 2RL but think it's safu anyway

I must be learning something if I came up with the same team Rail did 😄

https://tenor.com/view/senpai-notice-bite-sip-clingy-gif-5740206

[gritty ridge]

Im finally at the point where the diamond players cant knock me out of challenger

[dire root]

That defict?

May need to give Centri and biscuit better dolls and gear

[gritty ridge]

I got knocked down to 7th and had like 9 blue defenses

[shell hazel]

opponent cp * 0.846 always

you can fight at a bit of a deficit with biscuit on your side though, it may genuinely still work

no doll on centi, give them better cubes maybe as well but you need at least 2-3 quantums on this team for the 2RL

[dire root]

Biscuit does funny things on high deficts.

tank everything

[shell hazel]

it's not that high of a deficit

it's livable I think

[dire root]

No I meant in general, biscuit high defict fights are funny

HP just insantly drops

to 50%

[shell hazel]

82.5% deficit where 84.6% is the recommended

give centi a doll in the first place if you can

give some units better cubes if possible, bastion or resi can stat pad, but you still need 2 or 3 quants

[swift mango]

30% deficit my Crown got one shot by Alice. Biscuit can't save her.

[tropic summit]

keep in mind you can still just fix the other team instead

jackal anchor scarlet sbs rh
then opens up
noah biscuit helmt cindy rumani

[shell hazel]

it's the bready power

[gritty ridge]

I think im running scar indom and 3rl cindy as my defense

[tropic summit]

check CP with these 2

[shell hazel]

no bready?

[gritty ridge]

Shes too expensive rn, soon

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

I just need to overload another battery

[dire root]

Neat

[desert knoll]

THANK YOU KING

[gritty ridge]

I can run bready indom, trina scar, and some weird noah bisc cindy

[dire root]

It's funny that every defense team up here has a Cindy, guess I'm the odd one out.