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pistol don't have as much ammo or shoot as fast as SMG 
they can just turn it into a full auto pistol
altho I suppose misato never held a single shot pistol to begin with
early designs already had smg
well the character in trailer is using a pistol, so it's either full auto pistol (smg/ar) or.... something else idk
they can always just make it smg but have a skill to reduce fire rate significantly
Mg but never wind up 
only person with pistol in Nikke is commander, and he doesn't use it on rapture 
... hit rate?

It's too bad, try something better, like 4 def 4 hit rate


2 ammo 2 cs 4 ele 4 atk is the usual
well, she gets hits a lot so i use tempering cube then
never ever hit rate for pvp 
sigh... time to save more stones
what is cs?
Customer service

they should have a nikke with like 50% evasion chance, but each % of hit rate the attacker has, reduces it by the same %
charge speed

she kills cindy too
yeah but she died before she could proc anything. 160k team was too much for my sh.tty 110k
idk what team you're running for vesti 
basically it
and this


ah ah ah
everything just dies
i believe it bc of your team 
highly doubt noah is one of the links
easiest way to beat that scar is 2rl noah vesti or even 2rl indom vesti
this might be completely crazy... but.... maybe the 50% stat nerf is the issue 
oh that too 
@dense kindle 
can't wait to fight cc 3 more times
You passed me again 
also we lost to the champ 
L for us but also W 
Not feeling lazy by any chance are you?
So I can catch up again 

im sorry little one
I taunted too much, before this they were slacking at 27-15 

🐟
🐙
I wonder if the buff effect that reduces damage taken also reduces actual damage?
such as moran's skills
Damage reduction buffs do reduce damage taken by the enemy
There’s team like nero moran where damage reduction is heavily utilised through;
SR dolls
Temper cube
Nero S1
Moran burst
My burst is too fast and I died?
Yes. Tail end of cindy burst ripped through your team and enemy cindy had full decoy
So I should slow down my team change helm to rumani or noise?
Enemy team is really slow. Would need slow down to like 4rl ish to secure win. Whilst also beimg careful about lap+ pressure 
Hey all, haven't played in maybe 2ish months. Any of the recent chars or fav items good for pvp? I'm seeing vesti tac and bay fav are good?
I did try to warn ya. best to ever do it 
yeah i saw
Vesti, yes
Bay fell out, cuz moran+nero comb
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Change cindy to vesti
You'll fix that
For Champions arena you can use bay for a different team
My vesti is so good
But falls short for meta teams
Moran +Nero? What's that? Also any old chars suddenly better or more used?
If it helps. Here's the meta I played a lot in . Has much changed?
I think tove treasure makes her better but not sure about pvp bettet
Tove good for pve
Tove in sg team for pvp, still kinda slow me thinks. Rosa burst gen on sacc is good 
There is no meta without biscuit. 
Not much had changed except there are more options now, so such straight forward teams won't hold.
CP is still king.
congrats on the red 
just noticed 
badge of being a helpful person 
professional yapper badge 
another way to put it lol
Just certified yapper. 
Two noticable things happened today for me. I got red in Nikke. 
And the only good machine translation site on the internet for Manga, Manhua and Manhwa shut down. 
Gotcha ok. Aside from the ones in the picture and biscuit, what other chars should I make sure to have built?
Midhara, Vesti , Siren, Trina.
There are more if you could get to CA. 
Also, Noah more CS than Noise. Or everyone 11% CS above. 
4 pics at a time
Based on this and the attachments, what order should I prioritize?
Trina to 4107-10 > Vesti 7107-10 > Midhara 10104
Purple doll for Biscuit
444 is fine, burst skill the more the better
So 447 is good enough
I need to treasure drake, get atk lines on rosa, and build anne
B.soda is already purple doll
Trina currently 6/6/6, vesti 8/8/8, midhara is 7/7/7. I'll get upgrading. I assume purple gear for all is a priority too
Dont hmmz me, my account has been pretty efficient so far other than the dolla incident
Trina s2, Vesti s2, Midhara s1 to 10 first. Those are most important for them.
Don't worry my account could be even worse. 
Mihara still midhara? 
Why not? She is midhara after all. 

I have so many stockpiled resources so I just got them all to your recommended. Working on purple doll for biscuit
Should be careful putting sr0
OL wise, only Vesti need minmaxing. 4 AtK 1-2ammo 2 charge speed.
And max doll if you could
Sr0-sr5 harder than r0-r15-sr5 usually
So purple biscuit -> purple vesti -> max vest doll. Doll levels matter on anyone else? Already have purple most pvp chars
Kek
Just want to make sure I'm spending these best
253 
12k skill book 1 
tbh might run out of element manual first, a lot of PvP units are elec
I only use them for pvp chars unless I really need boss help
and you only have 2k elec manual
free OL for some units, then cp boost for pve units, pvp* need especifict effects depending in the uses you give to the units, so... just focus in base OL for new units
no if you 3 rocks reroll
my helm ate more than than and only have 2 cs lines
@keen vapor How to beat this? Bro finally fixed his def after all this time
Why does s.anis not see much use in CA? Once you get past top 64 and enter top 16, there's practically zero teams that include s.anis. Has she fallen off? Is there any point in investing and pulling more copies of her?
fell off for pvp, still great for pve
units distribution, good unit but expensive and need high stats to make for the synergies she lose without other good units
Vesti Blanc
in order to use her best teams, it's expensive 
Why does he put scalet, jackal and helm at the back? Interesting. Bring your scalet squad and squeeze them.
No besti
I lose
So switch to scar team (Scar/Trina/Siren/Anis/Centi in that order)?
Mermaid cannot stun Noah because Moran taunts on burst
I have question. Any reason you put SBS at position 5?
Even this deck doesnt let jackal help you fill bust gauge.
Ok. So I'm a washed up pvp scrub. Was bouncing around c3-8 before I stopped playing. I now need to grind back up. What are some generic teams I can make to slog through bronze to diamond?
Hmm, I’ll switch to scar team on reset and see how it goes
Moran attract won’t work, but siren still won’t work there since they can just cs
you'll lose if you use scar that team is 2rl 

yes this is standard team to beat Noah but no Biscuit, but Helm in p2 and Blanc p3 is usually how I do it 
doesn't really matter too much for this set up anyway
Depends on link I guess my i prefer my helm p4 to secure indom since shes unlinked
Generally speaking
I have more red doll mats than you at least. 
Hmm his deck still activate bust very fast.
guess I'm getting credits today 
I think blanc jackal SBS/vesti would work. The rest is ur choice.
The best would be vesti with 4 element code inc. She can oneshot noah.
or 2shot
@acoustic light
gonna get CP gapped again when he hits 361 soon though 
but it's the first time he couldn't swing over me in months 
Kuwon in CA again 
Just gotta SR15 every unit yup
I mean he is 358 atm I think? So he's not that far from 361 
nah I am not SR15 on my PvP units, I've been working on PvE
Idk how he even lost tbh, I didn't change my team 
Thanks for all your help. If you're willing, could you look through my pvp Nikes and let me know what you'd change/fix? If a char is missing let know I'll add it to the album https://photos.app.goo.gl/ofFutnKb8ePZyjjA9
Cp pad with ur pve units 🤔
Does anyone know how much CS Vesti needs? Is 15% enough?
I couldn't pull her 
I'm skill issue
I will just get her off wishlist or mold or something
my gacha pulls since raven have been
too
the new molds are soon
youve pushed tower further than I have
depends on how many guarantee molds they give anyhow
I don't think tribe is giving more reward either, they only mentioned manu guaranteed mold I think
well I will pray for ur vesti 
noah biscuit rh helmt jackal (outdps post noah shield)
or
noah biscuit emilia rh helmt (the nuke goes right after noah shield expires)
or
scar soda trina helmt jackal (you stun noah here, guaranteed via taunt)
or
jackal vesti helmt blanc centi (vesti will outdps during indom, hitting whole team, requires vesti to be invested)
pick your poison
@keen vapor FYI Check attacked just after reset today. I had to spend my two hits because his Vesti team is nasty this time around. He also corrected his T3 issue.
I’ll try the first one
take a vid if you can, helps narrowing the counter if needed
Yeah, he's fast enough now
3 RL
bullies 
Oki
these are my teams from back when treasure helm arrived, any new possibilities with new roster? (next post)
taking a look
almost everything minus scarlet 💀
for starters, throw rumani and trina in synchro
those will drastically improve your burst gen in your teams, they need to be built although before being usable
4/7/7 trina, SR5-SR15, 4OL
4/4/4 rumani, SR5-SR15, 4OL
they are 1/1/1 0 invest
that's fine, ensure you start building them up
currently there's not much to upgrade without involving them
once those 2 units are ready, you can upgrade at least 2 teams
you can run 2 teams on 2RL and 1 on 3RL
ping again this chat once those are done 
highly suggest to raise CP on biscuit, blanc, centi, noise, jackal and noah
Those are gonna be vital utilities we want to have built
you can also consider building vesti with recommended OLs, as she can outperform even scarlet and since you're scarletless it's even more useful
(both on def and atk)
biscouit, blanc, noise, jackal and noah are all 4OLs, only centi left then
i can OL one nikke now, so vesti or rumani or trina?
raise CP means:
-they've 3 OL lines on each piece, ideally on batteries add CS%
-they've SR5-SR15 dolls
fix rumani and trina first, vesti needs a lot of good lines
vesti will take you some rocks and time
ah, i dont think i can keep up 3OL bis lines every pvp nikke and for solo raid too, im struggling with 2ol lines for sr now, what can i do with just what i have?
well if you're pve focused, you can keep pvp on the sideline
take the easy way and just minimal invest rumani and trina
they're both rather easy on the budget
with what you just have get trina and rumani up to speed then we can tweak your current 3 teams
in specific, your cindy and indom teams will be upgraded to this
once vesti is ready, she'll replace SBS in the team above
your last team can become this for the time being
what cubes for them?
rest on 5lvl
quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, noise, rapunzel, biscuit
temperance on noah and rumani
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've no ammo OL, burst lvl 9 minimun
rest can run w/e (bastion/resil)
sanis is 10/10/9 ye
one thing, u put thelm in both teams
in sbs and cindy
it's hypothetical team for when you've rumani and trina built
don't run those teams until they are ready
i did skills, synchro and sr5
Is it safe to assume I'll steamroll on cp alone, or should I make teams? If so what teams
bro you're 72 levels ahead, you don't need help for this 
better safe than sorry xD
you sneeze those teams fall
Diesfrom auto
Finally lol
so what until then? stick with old teams?
upgrade to either of the teams i provided
they work for both attack and defense
so 1st team and 3rd? or im confussed with these 2xthelm 
any new possibilities for SP Arena. can sync nikkes if needed
oh oke it looks like you don't know what you doing
here's a prepared solution for you, balanced CP and burst gen
need to see your current 3 teams to say
Could I get a few general team comps for defense in Rookie and SP?
I have a few resources I can put towards some units if needed. Some Cube suggestions would be helpful too!
- Blanc/RH/SBS/HelmT/Biscuit
- Noise/Rumani/Cinderella/Emilia/Noah
- Siren/Scarlet/Trina/Centi/Jackal
hmm ok you can run a similar but potentially higher threat
Finally got around to logging in and checking CA results. Swept hard
taking a look 
Thank you!
this looks like an invest diffed, noway in finals you get a 5 team swipe 
good job regardless, your effort has been rewarded
Oops, I gave my atk teams on accident. Here are the DEF teams currently
thanks!
Rookie
jackal scarlet blanc centi helmt
SP arena
jackal scarlet blanc anchorIM drakeT
naga centi cindy noir noise
rumani rapunzel vestiTU helmT noah
Did not expect such a sweep. Looks like my min maxing with Nikke Work paid off. First 4-time champion NA, finally at the top of the rankings board.
If you want to keep up with the latest PvP meta, make sure to check out my PvP tier list at https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
To help build teams, try out Nikke Deck at https://nikke-deck.web.a...
Just curious, but what about Biscuit?
you could turn T3 into
rumani noah biscuit vestiTU helmT
the downside of the above:
-noah taunts in p2, you give extra burst gen to opponent, not particularly relevant although as you're 2RL
-you trade invulnerable p1 and p2 for sustain during burst
both ultimately serve the same purpose, for the most part
someone should call the police, there has been a murder!
keripo pretty much plays a different game than all of us
his invest is raidboss level
Hmmmm alright, I always thought she was best in SAnis teams anyway. Fair enough, thank you for the explanation!
vesti is sort of s.anis powercreeper
she does her job (hits whole team not just 2 attackers) and even better due to her bursty damage over DPS
applies early pressure to wind units as added bonus (noah in particular)
Alright cool, that makes sense then. Especially when against Noah
Do you have any general suggestions for atk teams?
there's a few no brainer
i generally recommend these 2
you can use the scarlet team to punish any non 2RL teams
you can use the noah team to punish any scarlet team, even indommed
probably around 95% of the matchups you'll win them with just the above
as defense requirements to deal with those are pretty high
this one is also a no brainer, only needs to concern itself with indom mirrors against units with higher fire rate
How do I beat this with what I have?
how do i deal with this comp? 3rd image was weeks ago and 1 and 2 is today
vesti-blanc-helm-centi-jackal
rookie
I think I tried siren-scar-jackal (siren likned comp) too and didn't work really
then try to out survive the vesti comp with biscuit but didn't work out
is this in rookie?
rookie yes
i'm curious if this works
if you don't mind recording/spending a try on it, we're a bit slower and rapi indom instead of vesti, everyone should die on both teams except rapi/vesti but their indom ends earlier
quantum on jackal only
yeah my rookie is rank 11 idc try it out lol
but i am out of try
jackal/blanc should go immune from biscuit, rapi shouldn't take much heat before you burst
Depends if rapi has enough damage to kill centi 
mine may not 
my rapi is highest CP out of all my nikke so 
K video showing the post-bug version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8VCqsfroig
This is the first time I've full swept in a finals though. And we're on Season 11 now, most players have had enough time to catch up on investments
god scar but upgraded to god besti
it's less ropey after the bug fixes, because xmaiden/ros were somehow more lethal before
but the rapu comp works good still as you can see, only noah dies

i have all the nikke there but i cannot cook comp like that 🔥
what is vesti, high burst and high sustain, dont get countered by noah?
it's tailor made to beat those teams
noah burst ends and vesti just trades better
my vesti can certainly be more lethal as well, I have rocks just pending start of new CA to gather what I can
Distributed damage with sbs hitting all 5 even when invul was there testing grounds for vesti release 
just spent my rock on union raid, and vesti still 0OL 
my vesti only has 1 x atk roll, need 4 of em lol
Perfect, this is a great explanation of what each team should do. Thank you for this! I'll finish up building the characters and try it out 🙂
2RL Noah beats 2RL Scarlet basically always
did your mihara get indom? @lusty gull
2RL scar can run siren so need to position noah in a good place
no replay but most likely not lol
check the beginning of the vid as well, a lot of core maxes and +30 levels on me as well haha
that cindy team is 4/5 core maxes
guy must be going crazy not being able to win despite spending so much 😄
Not sure what to put for arena/ PVP
Owo, you won?
I did not no sadly lol

yeah out at 64 even haha
Next season, trust the process
we rebuild and go again 
damnit emi!

Can anyone cook me a team with my lineup above?
Okay so I finally got down to Rapunzel and realized that I don't actually have her base form. Is that Rapunzel: Pure Grace?
Hmm, I suppose I need to find an alternative for Rapunzel then
yeah, bear in mind you want to b2 with noah and b3 with vesti
so anything you put in should not interfere with the burst order
Would Biscuit or Scarlet BS work in her place?
what if there's a hot waifu
I don't like to MLB units 
? why would you do that
just look at them in nikke screen
eh
I won't MLB Maiden alt 
@fathom rock 
I won't roll her gears even
Any thoughts? My vesti is 20k lower CP btw
I couldn't even get rerun units 
-# but Anne
Stupid neon 
Collect, failed collect

Wow vesti even though 20k lower CP than Cindy can win when it's 830k vs 660k
why does it work vs cindy not work?
Cause vesti is meta and cindy old meta
What else

to YOUR invest is a whole different kind of invest ... 
use any B1 flex that gives you the same burst gen tier for that team, use this to sort it out on your own https://nikke-deck.web.app/
:blancry: that's no longer the case
because vesti is a silly accident just like emilia
and i'm honestly surprised they still didn't nerf her
they don't give a f*k seems pretty clear 
Emilia is obsolete now 
Kisama 
Emi still the best with miranda
Well they balanced her by making her bad at solo raid
Their team was doomed with having their only defense in P1 and being so much slower lol
Normally they try to make their either good at pvp or PvE only
Still crazy vesti doing that much more damage though 🫨

Hime 

Get more CS for VesTac
I might try to gamble her 2RL double buff
Without sacrificing my 1.6RL Scarlet
For the jackal vesti rumani blanc lapT team, vesti needs to have cs and quantum cubes on the team to be 2RL with jackal feed right?
what you should be more amazed at is the fact that it is a barely buffed vesti (only siren) on 21% deficit
just skip her again
like he did last time
Yeah it’s like you were fighting a campaign level needing screen clear lol
If I'm reading this site right, then Tia would be my only option I believe
would be nice having a backup B1 although, tia is a re enter B1
if your p1 dies, your burst chain is denied
Rumani is the P1, B1 unit on that specific team, so Tia being B1 should give her a backup right?
Oh, guess I'm not familiar with what that means
there's several burst types
B1
B2
B3
there's also re-enter B1 which essentially can be cast on B1 but it won't move you to B2, it needs a proper B1
anyway your solution is dkw or rouge
use either of the above and problem is solved
Yeah I was just looking into D:KW since you mentioned Tia was a no go. I may go Rouge though since I want to build her anyway for an electro team
rumani on 2RL with purple doll in general never dies pre burst, but she can die to shotgun teams that can burst down p1
hence why it's a very good idea to have a backup B1
at least when your only b1 is p1, the most vulnerable spot of the team
if your noah can survive, might as well capitalize on rouge's burst for more damage too, by switching spots with rumani :p

Ahh alright sounds good! And for this attacker team, can I do the same thing to find a replacement for Trina and Red Hood? If so, I'll start looking into their replacements 😄
Nandeeeeeeeeee 
this team is designed to deal with opponents that are running defensive or high up units, by giving scarlet double buff and making her essentially lethal against anything that does not receive invulnerability (via biscuit)
depending on what you face, you can run the alternative
jackal scarlet trina flex flex, this one prevents p1 from being exposed to stun like siren
Is xanne still worth pulling?
CA only, not much usage in SParena and even less in pve
No 

did you watch or play idolmaster?
no but I heard of it
owo
Hime is an idol @umbral crown

is she
you can be her producer


waos
Producer san
LMAO
even with sound, that's how bad it is 
emoji screaming then fading away
waos
Alrighty, I have Trina on my wishlist so I'll keep an eye out for her!
I appreciate all your help today, it has been very helpful!
you welcome, no problemo
assuming i have all nikkes (except for the new absolute ones), are the best attack comps the same as the SP defense teams in the pins?
i haven't updated my teams since near launch 

How?
He easily breached my def earlier 
*I didn't change my def at all
gemming from 3rd to 2nd and equal rewards 
He's gemmer
But scared when faced with c1
bro my local SP arena is wild
do 2 attack within 1 minute? duh i need to look at my notes wtf
noise in pos1 didn't work for me
rip my SP attempt
is there a way to make pos1 noise work?
Why did you change your position
cause was planning to attack scarlet siren comp with my 2RL (eh 2.5) noah
"2RL noah auto counter 2RL scar" has rarely happened in my life yet sad
but can noise pos1 work at all?
yeah
running biscuit also means that i cannot run blanc-biscuit or moran-biscuit comp
works fine in SP, i should just quick making 3 teams maybe
Change your sbs to vesti
She fix your dilemma
imagine roll a atk or ele in first row
rip stones
o7
will vesti replace scarlet to be the rookie arena staple?
prob yes since my scarlet defense always lose
That's super good for vesti
charge dmg is not passable tho
then i have this piece of good and bad stuff
good is charge speed 4.92% bad is no 2nd 3rd line
btw does ele dmg work in arena? or only iron works? or works to counter attribute (fire -> wind)?
Nah, as long as you have cs and max ammo, anything in 3rd stat is passable
Even i have 3 charge dmg line
yeah maybe i can test out this vesti team in my rookie first before dumping it to the dangerous sp
cp gapped
Pvp is not like pve that really needs atk or ed
in genshin i have this calculator
i will run that team
the screenshot that has CP does not have vesti in it tho xD
so now the partner of noah is Vesti > SBS > Cindy?
@crystal flicker often calculate dmg
Ask him
Idk the best team but ppl just use the absolute gang for the team
Something like this
abosolute 💀
dont have emi or that 2 new t hing
reminds me i should put them on wishlist
this tbh
hmm so tldr charge is ok? i guess if oppo is noah, the burst dmg (which is ATK% but not charge dmg%) is 0, all dmg is attack/charge so that's good
I forgot what I used to beat this
I think I did a noah biscuit thing also
Since we're talking about VesTac, #pvp-arena message
I rather run these and keep Noah for Cindy in CA
It's against 2RL Noah too so yeah she's cooking
nice, id try that
My VesTac just all CS lol
no atk% or things?
I mean you get RH Blanc to buff her enough to obliterate everything
thats fiar
so noah biscuit can still beat them
I think I did like noah noise cindy rumani biscuit
idk if he had noah though
I know I did run into an absolute though
yeah prob
That teams pre burst kill potential is disgusting though
I was like holy hell
I swear eunhwa one shot a unit
shot. i didn't pull eunhwa
What's a good pvp team for me to have?
btw do we wanna pull xannie on the special banner? sounds like a CA-only for me
CA yeah but treasure poli can be a replacement
you can check this out #pvp-arena message
can get away with no xanne in CA sg team if you have poliT
Thx
dw i cannot even get into CA now 😭 cauise the top3 and top5 pleb just attack me instant
like this
Cindy is bad, Vesti-jackal-blanc may work, same with Anis-Noah-Biscuit
Trust
||@swift mango pls stop me next time I want to pull nonsense||
for PVP will there be any instance where Endurance Cube will be better than Tempering?
Nope, Tempering is always better
if endurance has any niche, is not the "helping to live more" one
It'll be the one about controlling which unit gets affected as "lowest def" against Scarlet Alter matchups
okay thanks for the advice. I should get my tempering to lv 8 right to unlock the 5th slot for stall comp? or do i start investing in other cubes?
I'm personally saving chips for whatever cube drops at anni
okay, i'll do the same haha
I can't believe it took them months to fix combat power given by last 3 cubes
a year I think

Do I only need 1 copy of Anne miracle Fairy?
Why does anis make so much burst i dont get it
Is it just part of her kit? I dont see it in her skills or anything. But shes meta???
Like nothing in her kit even needs any plus ups except for overload gear plus speed charge? I dont get it
I assume you mean Anis SR, It's simply because she's a clip RL just like Rumani and Centi
Yes
Congrats on winning, could you screenshot me your teams? @mystic rain you promised to help me screenshot the winner.
You have 400k gem. What nonsense did you pull? 
His gem is 332k now. He is 90k less fat. Hope he got Anne.
I see you are 90k less fat now, which units did you get?
@crystal flicker what dark matter are you cooking?
he rolled a bunch for sneon

I know he rolled summer neon but Idk how many and if he also got Anne. 

The Blood is red.
giv me a min im not home yet
It's weekend and y'all are still working 
Yes it is. 
I started to doubt whether to keep pulling XAnne or not, coz basically my 5 CA is filled already
If you had PoliT you may skip her I guess. 
blood is now finally worthy of his name
blood = red
I've been wanting her for so long tho 
Then get her 
@swift mango
what is a good attack comp for rookie right now?
Woa thanks bro, way way more detailed than I hope for. 
morning 
Are the positions good?
if you're looking for advanced teams, you can check these 2 out:
else, on a general idea, run 2 teams on 2RL and 1 team on 2.5RL (via CS%), for those you can indeed refer to pins.
Prefer scar and vesti for the 2RL teams, one of the two ideally indommed
2.5RL can be any stall or antinuke option
for cindy team:
siren jackal cindy helmt noah, to prevent enemy from having boosted burst gen from hitting noah in p2 (she taunts p1 and p2)
on the other hand, if you're attacking and there's shotguns on enemy team, you want one of your linked units to be p5 to take that feed
hey guys it's one copy of Anne:M F enough for pvp or should i get 3 more copies
ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS
1 is enough for champs
0 is enough for sp
"simp" wouldn't ask to begin with
Why not? No harm to know their waifu power level.
Would be different question 
Damage distance now exists in PvP
just 1
for real?
||Always has been, the more distanced you are from the game the less time you'll hold top 3||
Yeah, you should build 4 hit rate on your vesti.
did they fix jackal feed?
Her s1 feed trigger doesn’t double trigger anymore
So yes
👍
my def 100% win rate now after they fixed pvp
and i havent even touched my def since 2 weeks ago

My def lose before and after
no bugs no lose
Works like Crown/ReiT iirc think
Since it says "affects self" and then "protect all" I kinda confused
It’s so she doesn’t proc abilities like naga
wait so does she give everyone shield? or just her self
but tbh tho treasure poli sounds good for sg rosanna team
water SG vs nero
The shield is hers. But it protects eveyone
The shield will break easily though
Shield is only good in pve to protect being 1 tapped by rapture
SG deals more damage? Scarlet does?
Beautiful 
utsukushi
I have a long way for Scarlet PVP right
left before and right after reroll lines
Any cooks available?
#pvp-arena message ive now got anis:summer so could i make any ajustments for my current set up?
question why do I often see Soda mixed in with Scarlet Trina teams?
switch out SBS with s.anis if she's properly built, way more effective than SBS in that setup
stun threat, especially if used in p2, it directly counters taunters (in particular noah)
ok... i have a core7 soda but i haven't really put any effort to enhance her
you could consider her, works well in both atk and def teams
i will consider but am thinking if Nero or Her would be next. still investing on VestTactical
finish vesti first then
i just got her so i need to look up how to build s.anis properly but i shall take your advice
if you've rolled vestiTU she powercreeps s.anis although
if you going for pvp, use vesti instead
if you going for pve, s.anis has still plenty usage
don't remind me i havent rolled her yet 
go do it then 
if you're not convinced, watch this
(that's on 21% deficit penality)
but... s.anis was my last roll... no way im getting 2 sr's in a row
you don't wanna skip on her if you care about pvp though
i can use tickets. worth?
for pvp yes
so do you still recommend building s.anis even if i get vesti now?
situationally s.anis still has her usage
although for the best 3 defense teams in SParena, vesti outperforms s.anis
what's vestiTU team comp for SP Def?
It's pinned
either of these 2 are simple and effective
there are other variations on 2.5RL aswell
are you proud of me still working on my team? 
thank you
Six September, let's see 
hmmm, should i just use the ticket
for vestiTU? she's a unit you don't wanna miss if you're into pvp
trivializes a lot of defenses and is generally good even on defense setups
bonus addon that she has easier time even on deficit due to her kit
🙏 i don't keep 100% on it but i try. be kind 
ye 1 copy is enough
Noah..... Bastion cube? 
Noise..... Noise with speed?
also low burst level
SBS....... Uh,ig
Biscuit..... Uh, bastion again?
Rapunzel..... WHAT
Scarlet ok
Blanc .... What
Star Lord.jpg
RH....
Rumani
why skills seven.... AND SHE HAS THE TEMPERING CUBE
Jackal with invested skills omg 
oh...
i will do better
Noah should be the fastest of the two
What are their (Noah noise) charge speed overloads
noah 14.76 charge speed. i haven't been re-rolling on her speeds
Seems like both can use tempering then 
noise 9.55
i shall get on that. ive saved up 165 crystals
I said it works
no need to go harder
so now i have vesti.tu and s.anis, which should i swap out?
Add Vesti
she's the besti
i shall make changes and make you proud 
Need cooks. I am hungry lol
#team-building should have dishes ready for union raid 
Does Vesti need max doll to be useable?
Pvp sir
I'll say yes if you want to use her at high deficit battles so she has an easier time surviving incoming damage 
So like, if you face people who has 30 levels or more than you
My eyes 
Whot?!
Sorry
Yup
Should be easy, her competition is supporter
Is this the recommendation?
Yeah.
Imma try
My siren is higher atk than helm, so it’s scary lol
Some people ein maybe have low atk
How can I utilize Noah in my defense?
Put her in a team where she doesn't get siren baited, 2rl with 11cs across the board or noise with slower cs than noah, can also pair with biscuit but probably siren hijacked
Whale obliterated

This sounds like an offensive team. What about defense?
can someone help cook now that I have VestiTU?
Sir that is for defense
Sir!
Just wanna have her fast and actually burst
So what are we looking at? Can you visualize it for me?
Noise noah cindy helmT rumani common def team
You can also manage to run rumani at 2rl in p1 and have her slower than noah a bit but have some cs to taunt siren if she in p1 or p2 
Rumani noah biscuit sbs helmT 
Sure, please provide us your units in power descendant order 
Mock: 6.2b
Actual dmg: 5.6b, because I was sleepy and got a brainfart thinking my Mana burst skill being enemy's shield. So I shot the leg. 
here it is
Jackal VestiTUP Blanc Anis Emilia?
thank you 
Nero invested 
Wait, I realized we're same synch range, and yet you do more billions with a Mana team 
Mana is better than Alice to buff SBS this raid. 
SBS on this raid?
How
Yes. 
With maid duo. Or at least M.Mast. She still deal more dmg than half Invested Eva duo

Should I run x.maiden with hp boosters?
Doesn't mana target anchor for CS?
I don't have Anchor so I use Crown+Mana+Mast

If you burst with her, yes
Or invest jackal burst
wth
You don't even have Anchor cleanse
I was wondering abt x.maiden indom viability
Anchor has cleanse? 
CS reduction doesn't affect SBS much. And Mana already make up for that. Then Mast buff distribution dmg. And a build SBS naturally deal tons of dmg. 
Then we have siren 
Well, it lowers stack of debuff
not sure if it can help against boss debuff
Echocho-san
THIEN 


Well, your team explains why you did more than me
I used Crown with Doro team
When is next skill reset? I was stupid today and raised Naga to 874 without any use for her. I need to refund her back to 744. 
Interesting, can anyone confirm
Sad
Yeah, Manchor role is that she buff distribution dmg as well. 
And keep mast stack up
copium
Especially when we have Vesti today
haha just happened that way i kept getting copies so i just built her
Hope your Helm has high CS
I just wanted to know
Single target indom dps in indeed meh 
I run bready indom anyway
Needs 2 ammo I think
To not run out
Anyone know if next Solo raid has a core? 
Mother whale
flip a coin
So 50/50
more than 15% CS
who's this blood speaking like a pve main?
must be a faker 
I need copium my mistake of raising Naga to 874
you can do SR museum with her even if MW no core 
Also be aware that she won't splash 3 units
And that getting defender unit as Indom target is harder than your usual attacker
🍿 bait for dataminer
Yeah ik its harder, it was mainly a passing thought
I have already done beating highest score. I'm not doing the no limited for 15 gold box crumb reward. 
Ive also thought abt cindy indom but thats even harder
Ayo challenger blood
Congo
it's for arks ranking frame, who cares about the reward 
Thanks
What frame? I use CA frame. 
Yes, permanent core? Seem not possible
I swear after the next skill reset I would never raise anything raid only to above 7. 
Crafted this
How much ammo has Scarlet btw 
26
Low enough
perfect
okay question i'm checking in shooting range and it shows 26 then it becomes 46
im thinking cube?
Trina burst, don't pay attention to it
okay

Why noah
There's 2 possibilities
#1: Siren P2, will be taunted to Noah and let Nero burst
#2: Siren P3-5, will stun Nero, but Noah will burst
Also high burst gen
i see
If only I was this clever with my own defense 
Is this just Museum SR?
thank you @keen vapor

have a nice day
My phone is crying because the lag it must face
Look at Echocho
When did he ever 3% .


Mother whale has a big core right? 

Is that the p3n1s in the middle of its body? 
Its pe*** is bigger than your house I think. 
You from Sea right?
I'm SEA server. 
@keen vapor

I can't get overclock infinity 
Both of you cooked fr fr


sexmy
I don't invest in Solo raid. And SEA is much harder to get 3% than global. I'm not have the time nor resource for that. 
i remember global was like 1 bil less dmg than me but also 1% higher than me
@keen vapor 
its insane
you can tell because he's a love and deepspace player
Hi hippo
Hi 
I let rail go for you
thanks arigatou danke 🙂
Btw hippo youre quite knowledgeable abt pvp right?
I don't know what pvp is
I'm skill issued 

Its like the easiest time to do it
I wanted to ask if youd do a project with me
I'm hoarding 
I don't even get higher than max reward phase 25. 

Hime taught me to say no 😄
It's not easy if it requires sack
Wdym sack?
Sacrificed team
You dont at the very least until 50
but in reality it sounds like it needs time investment haha, I don't really want to do anything that needs too much time 😄
4k I think
Not the most, and not at this moment

Im pre asking rn
you'd have to be more specific
@agent Eon, get here
Ill be applying for MA soon

yeah that is definitely a time thing then
Its a guide ive personally been wanting so ive gotta make it myself
MA?
I don't want to apply for MA I just kind of hang out here and help sometimes/ask for help myself if I need it :p
Military academy member
Oh you wouldnt need to lol, I just need the smarter brains of another pvp member to double check skill levels
prydwen has rough investments for pvp units
Misinformation academy. 
Blood and I are here 
Thats true but youre already MA so you might make it before I become one.
And then i wont get my good boy MA points
don't think there is a huge appetite for it among the MA
Pvp guides are basically nonexistent from what ive seen so ots probably not a big worry
keripo did some stuff bit he's not an MA
I think keripo gets special privileges 
Nah, I have my own PVP guide to do for newbies that somehow manages to not be redundant with #introduction to PVP
Ah I see, so would you mind helping me in the near future?
I kinda wanted to do a guide when I have time but ofc not because I want to be MA. 
It was guide to fundamentals... https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1153017654332883055
Sure :Liter sip:
Thx
The problem with PvP isn't that we don't have the info but the information is scattered. The pin should have all the info you needed if you looked hard enough. 
Maybe add Eon comment about Cindy quirk too.
Zixk had special links with resources. But that was back in our old days 
This pvp channel is new peepo now
Well i specifically wanna make a skill guide like pve has
Base invest, reccomended invest, max invest
A short, comprehensive, to the point list
Prydwen has those separated for PvE and PvP.
bigboi portfolio to be MA
Hmmm... I guess I will
to next skill reset now. 
I help people whenever I can so is should be able to become green name
the real pvp guides r in chinese
@keen vapor oi, he's showing weakness
quick, grab him while he's vulnerable 
Are you booly me
Soon the 4 horsemen of pvp 
I mean only Rosy is actually an arena player. 
The MA team should find a way to bait Merry into MA. 
I think i was getting merry and rosy mixed up
Retro is pvp g—ning
You didn't. 
No I meant whenever I saw merry I got confused why she wasnt MA
Merry is a he 
Damn glad I don't have Nero invested. So I'm no PvP goon. 
Like i said, I was confused
I got timed out for saying the g word 
Even rosy is a he 
Maybe @umbral belfry me as well.
Maybe i was also mixing hime up in there too
Hime is woman
Hime is a nice person who doesnt booly me
You’ve never been shaked 
Cuz i never earned being shaked

I got shaken once and slapped multiple times. 
Im also hime union mate now too










