pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

what sync is your whale?

[mystic rain]

its like we're destined to be together 😭

[mystic rain]

441

[shell hazel]

i'm 382 now, my whale is 410 but he gains levels at the same speed or quicker than I do

[mystic rain]

i literally just broke 321 today cuz i was trynna see stat breakpoints for kraken and see how much more dmg i get from cp alone

[glad glade]

460-something iirc. He might have whaled a harder now though since 4th place is harassing him

[shell hazel]

he's def a whale as they have like core max everything and +30 sync despite being behind me in campaign

[mystic rain]

max core and all skins

[shell hazel]

but could have whaled harder for more sync

yes same haha

my SPA5 guy dropped out, he's quit it seems

SPA4 is below me, probably can't beat me

SPA3 is chilling there

[mystic rain]

i autoed my teams for this for highest cp teams and its not even close

[shell hazel]

so I've assured SPA1 or SPA2 atm

[mystic rain]

and that ss was a few days ago as well

[glad glade]

I’m SPA3 atm, just chilling. SPA2 is waiting for sync 441 before striking SPA1. SPA4 is harassing SPA1 rn

[shell hazel]

yeah can't touch that, I can't touch that either

[mystic rain]

its fine tho ill beat his ass in champs since he did make it thru

gotta teach these whales a lesson ya feel

[shell hazel]

sometimes chill at SPA2 or SPA3 is easier 😄
SPA1 puts a target on you

[glad glade]

Ikr. Its the golden spot

[mystic rain]

its top3 thats chill for the most part cuz eveyrone waants to be top 2 XDDD

[glad glade]

Why make your life harder when 3k gems are ripe for the picking?

[shell hazel]

just gotta keep pushing better than the ones further down

[shell hazel]

that is true for sure I'm mainly just wanting to make life hard for my whale haha

whilst I can knock them down I shall. force them to spend more

if I start at SPA1 and take it back twice in the day they have to gem at least once to get it

by the end of the season I'll get 3K gems and they'd get 2.5K ish if I do that enough, despite being SPA1

[mystic rain]

i dont gem i only hit last minute before reset

[glad glade]

Beautiful. I’m honestly tempted to strike my SPA1 just to piss him off even further. It’ll be really really funny

[mystic rain]

heheheheheh

[shell hazel]

if they're within range and you can do it, depends if you need to keep your tries to def your spot as well

no one else really attacks me, the only other guy that tried was the one in SPA5 and he's gone, and he failed all his attacks anyway

so I'm free to go whale hunting when I feel like it 😄

[mystic rain]

biscuit coutners sg rosanna team no?

[shell hazel]

haha you'll die from 1hko 😄

[glad glade]

Same, nobody really attacks me either anymore. SPA4 can beat me but he’s too focused on SPA1. SPA5 can beat me too but he’s given up after months of a psychological battle royale between me, him, and SPA4

[shell hazel]

biscuit can't save you from insta-death

[mystic rain]

well it wasnt 1shot tho

[shell hazel]

ah 1 dmg 😄

[glad glade]

Stall team? Whats that?

[mystic rain]

holy damaj

[grand plaza]

What was the minimum Siren can stun? 3RL? or 2.5RL?

[glad glade]

As in when she stuns or how long she stuns?

[shell hazel]

siren stun won't stun b1 at 2RL

[glad glade]

She stuns at 2.5 RL always

[swift mango]

Nah, your synch level got countered by his synch level.

[shell hazel]

if the opponent has enough CS then b2 at p1 also safe at 2RL

noah p1 can be a trap

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[grand plaza]

Yep thats what I was asking 👍

So basically if I can create a 2RL team its ok to put b1 on first spot

[shell hazel]

yes, and with enough CS even noah at p1 works

[swift mango]

I'm debating whether or not to build Ein. Idk how many level would that save me.

[mystic rain]

no but i mean on paper with no deficit assuming both teams are equal cp biscuit and defender p5 should counter sg rosanna team right?

[shell hazel]

for MC?

[grand plaza]

Hmm? I thought it was blocked below 2RL even if you make all 5 clip RL

[mystic rain]

11% iirc

at least my noah at 2RL dodges siren stun timing

[glad glade]

Really? Only 11% thats actually pretty cheap

[mystic rain]

thats 3 lines minimum tier11

[shell hazel]

yeah you can put the stats into the work site to check it

[mystic rain]

thats not that cheap

[shell hazel]

as siren doesn't get impacted by CS her stun is a static point in time

so having enough CS is fine no matter what CS the opponent team has

[mystic rain]

my noah got lucky and rolled 3 cs first roll so 🤷

[glad glade]

I’m more used gambling for the standard 4x ele + 4x atk for raids, so its not that bad for me

[mystic rain]

lol tru

[shell hazel]

all your clip RL need the CS though

having 2 with it and 1 without is not enough

[mystic rain]

ah what abt nonclip RL

like biscuit noise etc do they also need cs?

[glad glade]

True. 15% CS is pretty expensive

[shell hazel]

best to mock the team in nikke.work

see what CS works

you can check if your b2 comes in before siren

[mystic rain]

ah tbf noah dodging siren stun only works on 2RL

[shell hazel]

yes it's 2RL noah p1

[mystic rain]

if its 3RL even with cs im p sure noah will still get stunned

[shell hazel]

she will yes

[swift mango]

Ofc

[glad glade]

Not to mention that you gotta have Noise CS invested if you don’t wanna brick the priority taunt

[mystic rain]

isnt cs priority on noah >> noise so noise can have taunt prio?

[shell hazel]

I think 401 gets me to chapter 31 hard mode end boss, then I need 421 for getting to MC? then I think I need 461 minimum to beat that (likely 481)

[mystic rain]

like as long as noah is higher cs tier than noise taunt prio would then be on noise

[shell hazel]

if noah has about 5% more CS than noise then she gets taunt priority, but you have to pay attention to the postion of siren

as noise can only taunt those she hits

[mystic rain]

ahhh then im safe

😌

[shell hazel]

and at 2.5RL you would want a backup b1 as noise is getting stunned

[mystic rain]

tru

[grand plaza]

Does this team make sense

[glad glade]

Yeah. Unless you’re a crazy malder 421 is the standard

Maybe even lower than average actually

[shell hazel]

I've seen this fail with weird anti-taunts though haha

[mystic rain]

unprotected p1, unprotected blanc

[shell hazel]

dunno what alice doing here either 😄

[mystic rain]

alice buff sbs

[shell hazel]

she's not bursting, and her burst gen is pretty awful

[swift mango]

Without Maxed out Ein you would need at least 501.

[mystic rain]

maybe jackal instead of rapu

[shell hazel]

you'd be better off with a RH

b1 buff for SBS

plus backup all bursts

[grand plaza]

CP boost, had to save RH for another team

[mystic rain]

someone already did cindy hypercarry i think

[shell hazel]

damn all using rouge as well, someone I barely built

[mystic rain]

crown cindy liter helm mmast

[glad glade]

Ein isn’t really all that needed. As long as you roll enough Atk on your OLs, you basically get true damage since it nullifies the defense buff

[mystic rain]

or was it siren?

[shell hazel]

m.mast cindy hyper carry more doable

[glad glade]

Plus Liter+MMast

[shell hazel]

we onto something

[swift mango]

Yeah, that's where lv501 come from.

[mystic rain]

tbf even just liter is more than enough to break slippers even with no mmast

cuz atk buff>>>

[glad glade]

Nah even at pre 501 sync. I’ve seen it happen before

Just get lucky bro

[shell hazel]

I'm quite far off I think by the time I'm 421 I can consider what I need to build to get MC

[mystic rain]

https://youtu.be/Q9GJ_PlAiyM?si=l1YVkhbc9iUGwePp

[shell hazel]

that point is the long gring/wait of the game

[mystic rain]

yea it was liter

[shell hazel]

nice, 469 even 🙂

[glad glade]

Nice

[mystic rain]

nice

[glad glade]

I used this comp to beat MC anomaly, except with Siren instead of Liter. God I love MMast

God I love my wife Cindy

[shell hazel]

my m.mast still being built some I had to stop and invest more in pvp as my whale got shuffled in

[mystic rain]

mmast tech singlehandedly saving all anomaly

godbless the alcoholic redhead

[glad glade]

God bless Houshou Marine

[swift mango]

Just get everyone near max core and optimal rolls. Easy.

[shell hazel]

ayy lmao

well without the cores and such, 481 should bring the cp

with a well rounded team of the same units

[glad glade]

The more important part is the atk roll, especially on Helm since she’s the one sniping the slippers

Sky explained it on his stream a few days ago

[shell hazel]

some people been avoiding atk rolls on Helm due to the pvp side 😮

[mystic rain]

cores r just extra stats anyway so if u can find some other source of cp like higher tier lines and ofc atk and ele that should be doable still

ofc rng is rng so 🤷

[swift mango]

You could try.

[shell hazel]

sounds better than building Ein and Rouge anyway

[glad glade]

Rouge isn’t even that good in deficit MC. She only buffs Cindy, but doesn’t deal with the problem that is the defrnse buff

[hollow lagoon]

Rin has a lot of self buff atk and why are u not building rouge

[mystic rain]

can skip rouge for campaign MC

[shell hazel]

I don't want to build Ein if I can avoid it, I feel like we'll get a power creep unit to her soon

[swift mango]

You certainly don't need rouge.

[mystic rain]

ein is good tho but idk how ur gonna fit ein into ur team maybe kick helm or mmast

[glad glade]

With TU absolute, yeah. I sense a meta true damage unit coming

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t have to build rouge but there are reasons ur stuck 5%solo raid

[shell hazel]

we got at least 2 new good pilgrims coming for anni + ny

along with the matis squad

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

hey 5% is good (for now!) 😄

[mystic rain]

or just use sanis yea

ur pvp player anyway u should have sanis buiult

[shell hazel]

I don't want to max out s.anis, I'll probably get a copy but feels bad trying to build her for pvp, not even sure where I'd use her

[mystic rain]

electric is like the most invested element for pvp players

[hollow lagoon]

We new accounts we don’t have sanis

[mystic rain]

u guys dont>??????

[glad glade]

That’ll change real quickly in 4 days

[hollow lagoon]

Tetra tower

[shell hazel]

we get s.anis for the first time this month

[swift mango]

My screenshot is lowest all time in SEA. Every mfk use Ein+Cindy+Crown. S.Anis and Rouge are optional.

[hollow lagoon]

They also use liter

[mystic rain]

toom will clear MC faster than u

[shell hazel]

zanta and I started after cindy so no s.anis yet

[mystic rain]

ohhh

[swift mango]

No problem. I will clear MC at 501 anyway.

[hollow lagoon]

Man I gonna have to put pink gear on liter for dis is just bleh

[shell hazel]

you planning to invest in s.anis much zanta?

[mystic rain]

well sanis is coming next update anyway so ig its free clears for everyone

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t see why I shouldent Lel

[shell hazel]

pvp s.anis wants no max ammo, pve might differ

I feel like her pve usage is more where she's good now

[swift mango]

Just use maid mast.

[glad glade]

Nope no ammo on pve either

[hollow lagoon]

Pve sanis also want no Mac ammo

[shell hazel]

I see - well I won't mlb too much units coming

I'll just get a copy, I don't think I have room for her in my CA or SPA though

[hollow lagoon]

Bunnies are usually not limited

[glad glade]

I gotta get SHelm. I really screwed up when I skipped her in favor of MLBing Sanis for the 160 wall 💀

[shell hazel]

vesti kind of took her potential spot vs SBS/S.Anis

[hollow lagoon]

MLB sanis and pull bunnies mlb with blue

[swift mango]

Who? ASS? She is basically Cindy Slave at this point for PvE.

[shell hazel]

yeah her

[hollow lagoon]

Only milk I think

[mystic rain]

i need to dump xlud man

[hollow lagoon]

Xlude fine I think, mine’s just bad

[mystic rain]

and no way in hell im building bready crust for tetra

[glad glade]

Yes. I need to dump my load in her too if you know what I mean 😉

[hollow lagoon]

Bready and crust is rough, crust is manual play

[shell hazel]

i'm running pvp units in my towers still whilst my cp catches up 😄

[mystic rain]

nahh she doesnt have aoe its hard

[shell hazel]

blue cp what I can they kill stuff

[mystic rain]

doesnt even have burst gen since shes MG

[hollow lagoon]

She does dps well tho

[swift mango]

Not with 4 Ele 4atk.

[shell hazel]

will just fail at high deficit

[hollow lagoon]

I manual click Alice to gen

[swift mango]

My S.Anis is 2 Ele 0 ATK.

[hollow lagoon]

Tho I’m in blue cp for tower it hardly matters

[mystic rain]

yea but are u killing every mob in the screen in a single alice burst

im calling hacks if u are LMAO

[swift mango]

Just install aim bot and macro. Easy.

If you play on PC, ESC button is the aim bot.

[hollow lagoon]

No but I leave it playing while I farm on Path of Exile and click the next stage button after a map

[mystic rain]

i thought abt using sanis exiaT and bsoda actually but cant think of a b2

or maybe sanis exiaT alice rouge blanc

but that means building exia treasyure

[glad glade]

Why BSoda? With Exia?

[hollow lagoon]

Tetra tower ur hard locked into rouge Blanc unless u built crust and Bready

[shell hazel]

on my list to consider building to usable state then:
soda - rng stun for CA/SPA with scar 2RL
bayT - her treasure not amazing but she's got a great lobby screen and she is usable in certain places
s.anis - fallen out of meta mostly but can be used in pve / pvp situationally
poliT - mainly defensive p5 unit for SG team in CA

[hollow lagoon]

Actually no u can use SRosana for b2 now

[shell hazel]

and xanne - probably the better b2 for SG comp

[hollow lagoon]

Not hard locked into rouge no more, but its not like you’ll volume

[mystic rain]

bsoda if not using rouge but then the issue is ur not using blanc if no rouge and theres no better alternative so maybe bsoda is bad actually xd

[mystic rain]

oh

[glad glade]

Wait no blanc? Thats grim.

[mystic rain]

i meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaann

srosanna exists

[hollow lagoon]

But Blanc is still superior b2 because shield and healing and damage taken in 1 unit

[glad glade]

Also, i just realized you’re talking about tetra tower. God that tower is a mess

[mystic rain]

yea i forgor abt her

[mystic rain]

BUNNIES WILL SAVE US

ADE AND MILK PLS I BEG U

[glad glade]

But yeah, BSoda sucks outside of the SG team

[mystic rain]

ANIS OVERSPEC IS TAKING TOO LONG

PLS POWERCREEP ALICE FROM TETRA TOWER ALREADY

[shell hazel]

I could see them doing anis or neon overspec at major points, at least 6 months apart so anni or ny

[glad glade]

Even in the SG team itself, she’s starting to fade off. There’s a reason why the nuSG team from Kraken replaced her with DKW

[shell hazel]

oh we got some patch notes nice

[mystic rain]

yea uits mostly for cdr purposes

[glad glade]

I’m sorry bro… they’re looking like a skip…

[mystic rain]

MILK LPS BE USEFUL FOR ONCE

[hollow lagoon]

I actually hope anis over spec is b2 lol, it’s been so crown dominant for the past eternity

[shell hazel]

wait two iron units

[mystic rain]

owo

[shell hazel]

guess we know next solo raid element then

[hollow lagoon]

My Eve and Raven have no investment

[glad glade]

I don’t wanna invest in Maxwell or SW 🥀

[shell hazel]

raven 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Me neither kek

[mystic rain]

julia treasure will RISE UP

eve haters shall rejooice

[hollow lagoon]

But I got 2.9% on providence raid without sw/maxwell so we’lll see

[shell hazel]

I'm sticking to my plan even if my SR suffers - pvp investment priority until the end of this year

[glad glade]

I’ve actually seen someone use their JulieT to beat AI Ultra

[mystic rain]

is she top 3 iron dps now or smt

[glad glade]

It was actually pretty cool ngl

[shell hazel]

then afterwards I can actually build my pve stuff probably and my pvp should be relatively set except new meta units, not that common

[glad glade]

Nah lmao. Think of her as a watered down version of Eve

[mystic rain]

cuz shes competing vs rapi, rh, raven, snow white

[glad glade]

The guy used a SW comp

[hollow lagoon]

Juliet is like sidegrade Eve level of power I think?

[mystic rain]

oh tf

[shell hazel]

my Eve and Raven both MLB but neither built :S

[mystic rain]

yea but also i havent seen anyone with a properly built eve either

[shell hazel]

I just liked the Stellar Blade game so I MLB both haha

[grand plaza]

Is it possible to create a siren-proof SBS team without Jackal

[mystic rain]

cuz i heard eve wants like x4 crit

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t even use Eve and Raven for providence raid

[shell hazel]

yeah mine weren't ready at all :S

[hollow lagoon]

3rl u can use xmica for b1

[mystic rain]

and she could potentially be top 2 iron dps behind rapi if properly built

[hollow lagoon]

Eve?

[mystic rain]

yea eve

[hollow lagoon]

I do like her cuz stellar blade

[glad glade]

Iirc she’s on the same tier as RH without parts but lower than her with parts

[mystic rain]

even with crit??

[grand plaza]

Can she even dispel herself while stunned?

[shell hazel]

no

no one can burst whilst stunned

[hollow lagoon]

If ur putting b1 on p1 your a lost cause anyway

[glad glade]

Especially with crit. Might be wrong thou

Its been a while since that Sky stream

[hollow lagoon]

Might need to give some investment into Raven but non abnormal nikkes take priority

2.01 Lel

[grand plaza]

I am trying to create a pvp team with SBS-Blanc for defense but without Jackal I can't see how I can do that

[glad glade]

True, with the exception of Mari since electric team is universal

[mystic rain]

biscuit?

ah but biscuit means p1 blanc and she might get stunned so

[grand plaza]

Yeah.. I can only create 2 decent teams for defense and if siren basically negates one I am ded

[glad glade]

Most other useful abnormals are ele centric like Asukek, both Reis, or Eve

[hollow lagoon]

I just run sbs Blanc RH, if they stun/kill sbs then rh gets b3 instead

[hollow lagoon]

Didn’t build Mari

My resources are thin as is

[glad glade]

I know that feeling all too well

[hollow lagoon]

With my bloody scarlet refusing to roll attack lines

[mystic rain]

OH WAIT I JUS REMEMBERD

[hollow lagoon]

Just use Emma taunt

[mystic rain]

i ran a similar anti siren blanc team as well for deficit rookie

[hollow lagoon]

If u wanna taunt

[glad glade]

Bro thats me but with RH. She’s eaten like 60 rocks from double locks alone on a single gear piece, and she still refuses to have ele on the first line

[mystic rain]

scarlet p1 noise blanc helmt jackal

can remove noise if ur scar is below 33 ammo so she can dodge stun and still get indom

[glad glade]

I’m also out of locks now too lmfaoo

[hollow lagoon]

man, I give up on the 3rd line rolling

[mystic rain]

actually maybe u can still run scarlet blanc even without jackal if u go scarlet blacn trina instead

as long as its 2RL blanc

[shell hazel]

I need to do some 3rd line fishing for vesti at some point

[hollow lagoon]

U crazy

[mystic rain]

probably impossibel to run non jackal non biscuit blanc teams aside from scarlet

[shell hazel]

I know but it's worth it 😄

[grand plaza]

Would she be enough without blanc tho :/

[hollow lagoon]

If sbs dies indom goes to next not-Blanc unit with lowest hp

[hollow lagoon]

It’s not, how can you go out wearing tier 2 raid frames, how unsightly

[mystic rain]

frame shaming????

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

minimalist lifestyle 😛

[hollow lagoon]

Gotta replace the fake mother whale one

[shell hazel]

less is more right?

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/never-alfred-batman-gif-26337878

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

[hollow lagoon]

All ur PvP investment goes to waste when a leviathan enters ur bracket anyway

[shell hazel]

indeed it does 🙂

but my pvp units will be with me a while, 3 more months of focus on them then I can shift away

[hollow lagoon]

Tis ok, the ziz frame will free me from that misery

[orchid gate]

Is Anne a must pull for pvp?

[shell hazel]

she is not

mainly CA unit, and you have other options for her spot

[mystic rain]

skipping xanne 😔

[glad glade]

Speaking of frames, I gotta get that Champion frame. Looks pretty, but I’m at a loooooong way from reaching that point

Rumani doesn’t even have full T9M gear yet 😭🥀🥀

[mystic rain]

same

[hollow lagoon]

Best looking is the 2 win frame u get the shiny star at top

[mystic rain]

even my blanc as well still missing 1 piece

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1410648793552130129/RDT_20250615_0909457470601301747473233.gif

[glad glade]

Tru. It completes it

That empty space is ugly

[hollow lagoon]

The frames after feels copium except the 3 star one which makes u morgorth cosplayer but that’s long and far away

[glad glade]

You might as well go to the scratch tickets for that one. Casino Arena is really living up to its name

[hollow lagoon]

It’s just team positioning rng at dis point

The meta only losses up a bit when new units gets added like vesti

[glad glade]

And investments. Can’t get anywhere without very strict investments

[mystic rain]

luck is a skill after all

[glad glade]

Like 15% CS on all RLs 😭

[hollow lagoon]

Too bad I’m copium P-23 so I like the silver frames

[glad glade]

What about the silver cheer frame?

[mystic rain]

the top 8 frame also nice

[hollow lagoon]

I think getting that frame is bad karma

Who tf wants “unlucky frame” in a gatcha account, bad feng shui

[glad glade]

Lmao. I got it because it looks beautiful on my wife. Anything for my wife

Its as if its perfectly tailor made for her

[hollow lagoon]

U have a point I love the Cindy wife but my avatar is about me

[glad glade]

9 seasons of malding on cheer analysis thou

[hollow lagoon]

Tbh I could gotten it if I just vote my opponent last season

[glad glade]

Voting for only yourself? Based

[hollow lagoon]

I have to die out of the gate to get silver frame

The problem is if I die I just vote @shell hazel

And he’s won the arena too so it is what it is

[glad glade]

Gotta catch up to you guys. I’m falling behind

Especially now that @umbral belfry is in my bracket

[hollow lagoon]

Oh ur doomed

@umbral belfry ‘s been stealing my meth rocks, I couldn’t roll units for days

[glad glade]

I’m already screwed. Radeki, Aceross, and Cup are in my bracket as well. But one can believe in the heart of the cards

[hollow lagoon]

Man feels like time to go back to gear farming

More tetra supporters coming and I lack that

[glad glade]

Good luck bro. May the bosses be kind to you

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I can just strip S rosana and B Alice

And I have a full set of tetra attacker on hand

My lack of pilgrim attacker is more worrying atm but I have time to sort that out I suppose

[quartz rover]

This dude is jacking my style

<@&946725432554836008> the mr beast posts are here

[shell hazel]

yup same here haha. My next game is not anyone I know though

though one of them has s.anis

[quartz rover]

I think its time I start building nikke these people wouldn't dare to

Moran, out from the bleachers

[shell hazel]

I love my moran so useful 😄

https://tenor.com/view/moran-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-15958302663300684403

[quartz rover]

Im just missing a ton of gear exp 😦

[shell hazel]

so you can use her where you need to stall a team with trina

without needing a biscuit to do it

surprisingly good

[quartz rover]

Oh right Trina gives her 3s of no damage

[shell hazel]

yeah

I'll send you a video later on to show it

[quartz rover]

What skill levels for her does she get useful? Don't wanna put too much into skills if I dont need it

I think she's 4/4/4 rn or something

[shell hazel]

heavy skills

nah it's veering on 7-10's certainly

also kind of not that useful until you built the main batteries anyway

[quartz rover]

I figured

She cant tank without having some sorta healings

[shell hazel]

trina/moran good but you then lack a trina for scar, so depends what you're fighting

[quartz rover]

I dont have scarlet anyway

[shell hazel]

think shes more useful on attack if you consider her more of a temp wall to tank with

[mystic rain]

7-7-10 on moran iirc

[quartz rover]

This is the closest I'll get to scarlet

[mystic rain]

cuz its her burst thats gives dmg reduction

[shell hazel]

I'm going for 10/10/10 for mine haha

while yet though

[mystic rain]

opposite of nero who wnants 10-10-7 cuz its her skills that give dmg reduction

[shell hazel]

think I had mine on 10/7/10 for now

[quartz rover]

I may try pushing story some more

Im on mirror container 2 and got it to like 50 bars left or something

[mystic rain]

and ofc sr15 dolls on moran nero

and tempe lvl7

[quartz rover]

I dont have temp lvl 1

[mystic rain]

8 if u want the entire team to be dmg reduction

ah

well dw moran nero is lategame pvp anyway

its not something u can build right out the gate

[quartz rover]

Yeah I just wanted to build a moran to screw with these people

I dont have any other taunters anyway

[fathom rock]

Real pvp master right here

[shell hazel]

the crow strat

[quartz rover]

I've got moran, nero, crown, I THINK noise taunts?

Thats about it

[mystic rain]

crown isnt taunt

takes like 30 sec for her to taunt

[fathom rock]

Crown taunt proccing in pvp talk about a miracle what fight gonna last 20s with her

[shell hazel]

crown isn't much good in pvp you mainly run her if you want to go slower and you use biscuit to have her tank

[mystic rain]

or as cp padding

[shell hazel]

as she's usually well built/good cp

[quartz rover]

My crown finally has a doll

[mystic rain]

noise noah r the main taunters

[quartz rover]

And its maxxed, thats pretty cool

[shell hazel]

rumani can as well think it's after burst though

don't quite recall

and ofc moran can taunt

[mystic rain]

rumani needs 5 shots to taunt

[quartz rover]

I dont have rumani Noah scarlet or the seasonal/collab pvp nikke

[shell hazel]

damn big hitters missing

[mystic rain]

bricked

[shell hazel]

for wishlist

I had 0 rumani for about 6 months now I have MLB and I didn't exactly go pulling like crazy either...

[quartz rover]

Ill be sure to pray to wishlist when I get one ticket from my sector when I blue power a 2 nikke enemy

[shell hazel]

just rng on luck

[mystic rain]

ig tia can taunt as well

also 5 shots and dont need to burst

[quartz rover]

Should I build noise? I do have a cindy

I've been working on jackal rn tho

[mystic rain]

if ur gonna be pvp main yes

noise give maxhp to team she buffs cindy

[quartz rover]

Maybe jackal and biscuit so they dont eat blanc indom

[mystic rain]

and noise b1 is like pseudo noah in that u can tank nukes eith her b1

[shell hazel]

no one runs tia seriously

she's not clip RL and if she's in burst chain she slows you down due to re-enter

[mystic rain]

p5 biscuit team

[shell hazel]

only people I see running Tia are those in CA with no options, but in my brackets she's basically vanished by now

[mystic rain]

tho it is slow yea

[shell hazel]

better to run anchor

[quartz rover]

The shuffle has blessed me but now people are trying to take my #3 spot so I'm acting now

[shell hazel]

or even arcana lol

[quartz rover]

Got to ca the first week without anyone attacking me

Well, beating

[swift mango]

Nero mirror.

[swift mango]

get the 5 wins.

[gritty ridge]

good morning

[quartz rover]

Should I swap these up or any way to improve them?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-good-evening-cat-good-evening-cat-gif-13390434541964706223

[quartz rover]

I noticed some people are running siren in their defense so maybe theyre stunning ein for team 1 (lowest power of 3)

[keen vapor]

CP padding I see

[quartz rover]

I know jackal to p1 would stop the ein stun and ill burst with rh but jackal will burst on every other fight

[gritty ridge]

Stunning the b3 on an indom team doesnt matter if you just only have 1 b3

[keen vapor]

That's not the point, Indom is directed, even with multiple B3 you can still brick

[gritty ridge]

Just dont misindom smh

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[mystic rain]

do u guys think that 2RL scar nuke is abt to be powercrept soon

[gritty ridge]

If jackal p5 and links p1/2 with your lowest defense units being linked, how would you misindom?

[mystic rain]

or rather its too ez to counter for defense

[gritty ridge]

Its still probably the strongest attacking team, defense its easy on most teams but then again every defense but money is easy

[shell hazel]

it's not a great def team but what else can you run? it's still one of the better options

[mystic rain]

yea im thinking of dropping scar nuke

[shell hazel]

you only have so many units that can work on def

[mystic rain]

from my defense

[shell hazel]

also opponent only needs to beat 2 teams

so you'll always have a weak spot

[mystic rain]

do u guys prefer blanc jackal or blanc biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Blanc jackal

[mystic rain]

im thinking biscuit is much more safe than jackal

[gritty ridge]

Depends on the team comp tho

Blanc bisc is siren susceptible

[swift mango]

What are you gonna powercreep instant death with? Deader than dead?

[mystic rain]

instant death + death after death

double dead

[placid bloom]

unkillable + instant death

[swift mango]

You need to power creep the game stat first so Scarlet wipe isn't a win anymore.

[placid bloom]

that's the power creep

[gritty ridge]

Scarlet wipe already isnt lethal sometimes

[mystic rain]

^^

[placid bloom]

could also mass dispel to remove invin/indom/damage share

[gritty ridge]

But that depends on your invests

[mystic rain]

hell even noise b1 can tank my double buff scarlet

its sad

[gritty ridge]

Sounds like bad scar

[mystic rain]

and no its not weak scar either its 50% atk

[gritty ridge]

What are the skills on her, trina, and rh

[mystic rain]

max

trina is 4-10-7 tho

[swift mango]

where is the ammo

[mystic rain]

its below 33 ammo dont worry XD

[quartz rover]

How does noise p1 work vs a siren

[gritty ridge]

Good

[quartz rover]

Do you just need to be faster than 2.5

[mystic rain]

2RL noise b1 will burst b1 before siren stun

[swift mango]

it need 30 ammo, or your scar is bricked 23% atk

[quartz rover]

Ah

[mystic rain]

wym

[gritty ridge]

<@&946725432554836008>

[mystic rain]

do i need 30 ammo base + ammo buff from trina?

bruhpls dont do this 😭

[gritty ridge]

Thank you mods

[mystic rain]

woudlnt trina ammo buff ruin that

[placid bloom]

no

Scarlet reloads before Trina can buff

[swift mango]

you need 30 ammo or bricked one stack scar skill 1. trina ammo doesn't do anything wIth that.

[fathom rock]

Trina buffs max ammo cap but not refill it so only effective if have ammo refill in team after trina burst or well after reloading

[placid bloom]

[mystic rain]

OH GOD

[placid bloom]

Mermaid stun applies before B2 casts anyway even if it did refill

[mystic rain]

whats the exact ammo line i need

do i need 2 lines or just 1 high roll

god i hate u pvp nerds

[placid bloom]

in theory 1 60% ammo line because it gives you 32 exact

[mystic rain]

😭

[fathom rock]

One of these

[placid bloom]

but in rookie 32 ammo is still brick

so safer to go 31 ammo

[swift mango]

you need 50-60% optimally

[mystic rain]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[fathom rock]

Screw rookie

[mystic rain]

I HAETE THIS

[placid bloom]

32 ammo works for CA and SPA though, as long as no Mermaid B1 ammo refund

[fathom rock]

Pvp is the only mode where I had to get rid of black ammo line on a dps with low base ammo

[mystic rain]

so tier 9 ammo?

[fathom rock]

This wack

[placid bloom]

tbh you can just feed Soda until she's fat enough to be p1

[fathom rock]

Anything 6-9 is fine

[swift mango]

I got rid of 3 blue ammo line on her total.

[atomic wolf]

i'm over here stroking o

[fathom rock]

Oh yea how much ele ons car

[mystic rain]

my scar is 28 ammo

[swift mango]

my scar got 3 ele line and around 50-60, but I would refer 1-2 ele line and 1-2 crit dmg... so I have to waste rock for a crit dmg line eventually....

[mystic rain]

maybe if i put wingman it fixes her

temporarily

😭 😭 😭

is 32 ok

[swift mango]

ok

[mystic rain]

ok

[fathom rock]

Hmm easy fix then

[swift mango]

it's not easy to min max this piece, but okay.

[fathom rock]

Helmet and boot lock line 3 for a good 2nd line, glove double lock for atk (ptsd from mihara) and full roll vest

[eternal finch]

Any reca vs this team?

[gritty ridge]

2rl pseudo stall yippee

[fathom rock]

I feel like I seen that exact def formation before

[gritty ridge]

Does moran taunt before siren stun?

Actually nvrmind

Probably has cs

[fathom rock]

Blanc rrh biscuit centi rapunzel vs t1
Noise noah cindy helmT rumani vs t2

If have Rosanna you can cook something for t3 with this formation if you looking for 3x win

[gritty ridge]

Retro building

[fathom rock]

But I don't wanna approach that t3 without blanc

Blood lecture me instead of watching from sidelines

[swift mango]

The easy way would be just an indom team on Scar and Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+Helm the helm team.

[fathom rock]

Bay for T2?

[swift mango]

it's fine too if you wanted that.

[atomic wolf]

@eternal finchBETRAYED US

https://tenor.com/view/russian-ghost-yuri-gif-26199006

[swift mango]

Are you not he/him?

[swift mango]

He probably could 3/3 using bay I guess.

[atomic wolf]

what does that mean

[quartz rover]

hey blood you wanna give me one of your bay dupes so I can make her

[atomic wolf]

or like what do you mean even

[swift mango]

Maybe you are he/her?

[swift mango]

I have 1lb bay and had to spend 200 silver on her.

[atomic wolf]

i'm fine with whatever

[quartz rover]

i'll have to spend 400 on her

[atomic wolf]

i'm a straight guy who is also a subhuman that likes yuri

[swift mango]

If just to nuke scarlet, you probably fine without treasure her.

[quartz rover]

I mean who else am I gonna treasure

amirite

[swift mango]

sr15 your Jack, Biscuit and Noah

[quartz rover]

I already have helm, tove and drake

i'll have my moran at bond 30 so when they give her a treasure she becomes god

also what noah

[eternal finch]

T1 RH died before bursting

[swift mango]

Rapu should revive her.

But did it win?

I doubt it have enough dmg but who know.

[fathom rock]

Thats intentional helmt nuke her then rapunzel revive her

[swift mango]

[atomic wolf]

WTF

[bleak shale]

I was asleep but generally this is correct

[quick lake]

Emi-less

[bleak shale]

There some intrecacies to this as well because she can partial charge before going into burst iirc so it should actually be from the time her last RL hit to this tome

[swift mango]

How do you do 1 - 21% math?

[crystal flicker]

He's MA, he knows everything

[bleak shale]

Like you can charge 200% then burst then charge time goes up but you keep that initial 200%

[bleak shale]

There's a cs formula

With rounding bounds for each

[swift mango]

But tell me how you do that math?

[bleak shale]

U put it in Excel

[glad meteor]

Yeah, that’s how my 2rl emi hits 3rl noah. She gets a hit off and her charge time resets

[brazen salmon]

how to setup overspec mihara sucide with rosanna in pvp if mihara already sr15 doll, fully invested with OL?

[bleak shale]

ya so like if ur emi shoots at 2 for example then u burst at 2.5 due to sg theres a difference there and its not x time from 2.5 but really shorter than that since emi has partially charged

[crystal flicker]

Just put Mihara P1 and she's gonna die

[brazen salmon]

thanks

[swift mango]

Well, if SpA, I could just Helmt+RH to avoid hitting her.

[quick lake]

I havent seen that much Mihara + Rosanna. Usually, its a slow Mihara team

[crystal flicker]

Mihara goes well with Blanc instead yeah

[bleak shale]

if i remember right it should be unique cs rolls are rounded seperately, same cs rolls are added before rounding and rounded to the nearest 100th of a second after converting %cs to time

[crystal flicker]

Idk what the hell is that

[bleak shale]

so like 3.6% is actually 3.6*1 = 0.04s reduction not 0.0357

but the real answer is u just put it into an excel formula and calculate off that unless u want to sit there doing math for each roll then rounding and adding

[quick lake]

just wait for CN math

[bleak shale]

also if u have 2 rolls of 3.6 then its 3.6+3.6 = 7.2 -> 7.2 * 1 =.07s reduced instead of .08 if rounded seperately

[bleak shale]

did cn ever finish the formula i thought they just brute forced a table

[quick lake]

funky nikke code

[crystal flicker]

THey use AI, just like how the generate SB code

[quick lake]

Round to nearest frame

i cant rmb the exact math

[bleak shale]

ah yes its rounded to nearest frame at the end

[quick lake]

yee

[bleak shale]

well rounded to the next frame*

because they cant generate a bullet inbetween frames

so if ur like 30.1 frame ur actually 31 frame

[quick lake]

might be rounded down i think. Have to ask crimson

[bleak shale]

b26 is fps

[quick lake]

hmmm

[bleak shale]

it should be a pve and pvp thing because nikke cant calculate bullets inbetween frames and the delays are considered "unable to shoot until"

[quick lake]

yeah seems like it

[bleak shale]

so it checks on say 26th frame and responds "cannot shoot" it doesnt check until 27th frame

[quick lake]

i stopped spread sheeting my pvp

[bleak shale]

so itd be impossible for it to know 26.1 is shootable so we can shoot at 26 rounding down

without mfra atleast idk how mfra works i just know the fire rate changes

[shell hazel]

that's right but you can also just put your CS into the nikke.work character slots and it will work out the rounding/sums for you

[bleak shale]

ya like i said u just put it in excel

easist way 😄

[shell hazel]

dunno if easier tbh, this is pretty easy

[bleak shale]

thats basically an excel

[shell hazel]

without the need to know how to excel it 😄

[swift mango]

Why sheet it when you can't change the result anyway,

[bleak shale]

some1 else just exceled it for u

[shell hazel]

works for me haha

[quick lake]

ca results

[crystal flicker]

ALways has been

[swift mango]

I didn't even look at my today match up. Lemme check how it goes.

[crystal flicker]

You know my account is 366, and this mf is 517

That's > 100 gap with multi cores

[bleak shale]

but yea its basically an exercise of knowhing how the math works and using a calculator sometimes knowing the theroy is good since u can extrapolate it to new situations

[swift mango]

BTW are you able to get to CA now?

[bleak shale]

no i forced in like 2 last shuffle but then im back in my crap group again

[swift mango]

Got to top 8 at least?

[umbral belfry]

@glad glade baby bracket champ on top

[bleak shale]

ya top 5

[bleak shale]

oh u mean in ca, nah

[dim escarp]

Rin against the whale episode 513

[swift mango]

what is top 5?

[bleak shale]

i think it was 16 or 32 then i got rng countered every team

classic CA experience

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, but my 1.6RL still unbeatable

[bleak shale]

just make them place team order worse

[swift mango]

cook for them and purposely place their team order to lose to u.

[shell hazel]

that's why soda is the best arena unit

she is the rng we wished for

[bleak shale]

MOAR

[bleak shale]

they should ruin the targeting so it skips half the time and add rl whiffing back in for extra fun

[swift mango]

Btw I used 150 gems today to dispatch reroll but got back 210 from dispatch.

[quartz rover]

don't give them any ideas

[bleak shale]

its already dices adding more rng just means its more averaged to 50/50

roll 3 dice vs roll 10 dice

[crystal flicker]

I'm done making next season comp

[shell hazel]

everyone has 50% chance to hit 😄

[crystal flicker]

Unless those Bunnies is PvP

[swift mango]

It's too peaceful

[shell hazel]

or it's a roguelike where every round the game gives you a random card that impacts your teams positively or negatively

[bleak shale]

did they release their weapons yet

[keen vapor]

Not for me

[keen vapor]

Sniper

[swift mango]

Yay!

[shell hazel]

lucky, going to see if my whale wants to spend 100 gems to take back 1st

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[dense kindle]

Hello

[keen vapor]

Ade buffs weapon ideal range buff

[sinful sapphire]

ouch i lose. scarlet got stunned by siren and got nuked instead

[keen vapor]

Apparently

[shell hazel]

Hime you made it?

[crystal flicker]

Hime always cooks

[swift mango]

My bracket is lazy now after first season.... even the C4 war settled down. Some guys contended with Diamond 1 now.

[dense kindle]

Lmaoo no way 😭

[shell hazel]

my whale just wants 1st that badly 😄

[swift mango]

better luck next time

[crystal flicker]

Anw time to back afk

[swift mango]

maybe he would be bored after another year, like mine.

[umbral belfry]

jsasor we gotta both make it so we can fight

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

Piggy beat Radeki there’s no way I’m winning again

[fleet skiff]

This is a good PVP defense team if I really want to have Noir and Blanc on my team right?

[umbral belfry]

believe

[hollow lagoon]

Seems like I get to top 16

[swift mango]

My Anne bricked lost.

My Emi deal more dmg than Vesti.

[hollow lagoon]

Time to stalk my boi @shell hazel

Wait bro u died?

[shell hazel]

i'm dead from top 64 sir

@cunning crown and @nimble swan died this round as well

https://tenor.com/view/pay-respects-press-f-call-of-duty-respect-press-x-gif-22309724

[hollow lagoon]

My next match up is??? I don’t wanna think

[shell hazel]

you're the last of us left, you must carry our hopes and dreams

[mystic rain]

@glacial hound @umbral belfry @swift mango holy moly

[shell hazel]

champ run number 3?

[mystic rain]

my moran nero won vs blanc 😭

[umbral belfry]

we told you

[nimble swan]

yeah we dead

[shell hazel]

RIP, 3-2 though at least wasn't 5-0 😄

[nimble swan]

but what this guy is doing in top16?

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I considered such before btw - just focus 4 good teams

[mystic rain]

i thought i was gonna lose 2 and 4 cuz i realized round 5 was like slow cindy noah

[shell hazel]

and have a total throwaway team

[mystic rain]

didnt expect to win 4-1

[shell hazel]

but it means immediately conceding a match

[umbral belfry]

it also looks like soda did in fact NOT have sand in her eyes

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t think so? My teams are weird ish

[shell hazel]

got you this far, gotta have faith 🙂

[umbral belfry]

we still alive hippo

our (my) team stands strong

[swift mango]

My Scarlet is so weak

[hollow lagoon]

Happened to me too Lel

[shell hazel]

we (us) love that for us 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Lost a match up cuz couldn’t kill cinder and defenders

[shell hazel]

yeah same happened to me, noise got her burst off before my scar nuke

and then scar could not kill cindy

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

I just did a 2 hour long gardening session and I’m exhaust

Yes I Infact touch a lot of grass

[mystic rain]

my blanc got stunned XDDDDDDDD

sasuga soda

[shell hazel]

sasuga soda

[swift mango]

At least I got these wins. My ReiT and slow Cindy still got it.

[quartz rover]

soda the protag

[shell hazel]

hime what teams did you win/lose with on last round?

[mystic rain]

and my blanc team too slow anyway vs scar 2RL

[umbral belfry]

the game said no indom for me

[umbral belfry]

only lost slow cindy and sgs into jack vesti

[shell hazel]

not been that impressed with slow cindy may not run it next time

[mystic rain]

slow cindy lost to my sg team as well

[umbral belfry]

[mystic rain]

too slow and no protection

[umbral belfry]

no bisc?

expected then

[quartz rover]

whats the point of making cindy slow

[swift mango]

Probably a very bad slow cindy.

[nimble swan]

my noah bisc lost to vesti indom but it was close, vesti had like 1s of indom left

[mystic rain]

yea round 5 noise noah cindy no biscuit and 3RL

[fleet skiff]

Help?

[mystic rain]

noise siren noah died before they even burst xdd

[shell hazel]

weird your blanc did burst, unless her target of the indom died in the same frame essentially

[umbral belfry]

doable. not great but doable noir isn't needed but I know you love her too much to remove her

[mystic rain]

@swift mango mr whale lost XDDD

[umbral belfry]

it was likely bisc and she got sniped

[shell hazel]

I think she tried to indom biscuit

[umbral belfry]

cindy said

[swift mango]

This isn't slow cindy. Just the common 3rl Siren+Cindy. The comp I used since Siren first released.

[leaden sapphire]

?

??????????

[mystic rain]

could have worked vs other team with trash offburst dps or another stall team

[cunning crown]

Really need you to watch my round 5 loss to rei ayanami because my honest reaction to that fight is just

[leaden sapphire]

idk what dis server is dawg

[swift mango]

That team often lose to SG. Shotting from Noise position.

[leaden sapphire]

can I watch stream pls

[umbral belfry]

[mystic rain]

does noise even survive 3RL

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/waterfall-stream-water-nature-gif-16275203

[fleet skiff]

okay thanks any of them that can be replaced with Summer Anis?

[umbral belfry]

for that specific defender team? no

[leaden sapphire]

????

[swift mango]

Oftenly, Rosa would one shot Siren and you won't be able to burst. That's why you want siren p4 in that team or use Rumani as well

[shell hazel]

yeah that was unfortunate, how much cs does your helm have?

[nimble swan]

I just watched it.. it hurt to watch lol

[leaden sapphire]

what is this SERVER????????????

[mystic rain]

noise siren rumani in one team

feels like a waste for a single team esp for champs

[shell hazel]

it's 2RL rh buffed Rei I guess strong enough to nuke enough of your stall before you can b1?

[dense kindle]

It’s Nikke server

[swift mango]

That's why you put Siren p4

[leaden sapphire]

oh

is dis like a pvp server

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal you had a good run my friend

[dense kindle]

You are in pvp channel yea

[fleet skiff]

okay thanks

Is summer Anis attack or defend?

[wet crystal]

currently malding in ratio 50 hestia

[umbral belfry]

pve goon

[shell hazel]

pve! peasant!

[umbral belfry]

I think she's mostly for attack but I guess you could use her for def

[shell hazel]

-# I pve as well

[swift mango]

Do we know when xAnne back?

[umbral belfry]

in like 3 days

[nimble swan]

SR15s survived, Rapu died cause she's not. Also Laplace died because RH and Helm was shooting at p5

[shell hazel]

yeah if you can get away with it I do like putting xmaiden here instead

depends if you need defender/off-dps elsewhere, feel like she's a safer anti-nuke option than LapT

[leaden sapphire]

my heart is beating so fast rn idk what to say in vc

[nimble swan]

I kinda prefer the mAnchor option, I once survived a Cindy nuke

[shell hazel]

nero b2 though

[leaden sapphire]

idk what to do rn

[nimble swan]

yeah there was a second burst

and revive

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

Do nothing?

[nimble swan]

btw I've seen a RapiRH version as I skimmed through some people

[shell hazel]

I'm concerned about this account, doesn't know where they are or what they're doing

[leaden sapphire]

its a chrome book

I'm using chrome book

[nimble swan]

idk I see new faces recently

[mystic rain]

#pvp-arena btw

[umbral belfry]

I think they're young

how'd they find this server

[shell hazel]

perfect fodder for our pg-13 game

[dense kindle]

12+ age rating

[umbral belfry]

no hippo

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-doro-nikke-gif-1552655716944116119

[umbral belfry]

[fleet skiff]

Cause I really love Summer Anis, maybe I should try to get more of her

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mast-nikke-maid-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-3168612838799079619

[umbral belfry]

you def wanna pull her regardless for pve or pvp

don't look kid

[mystic rain]

wheres the transparent bg one

[dense kindle]

Time to grow up

[umbral belfry]

[glacial hound]

https://tenor.com/view/赤鬼-piper-wheel-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-spin-gif-2445387535133485691

[glacial hound]

Oh they can't censor gifs

[umbral belfry]

[glacial hound]

[shell hazel]

hey no miss ✂️ 😄

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[late tiger]

Does bay block/take-on Rosanna's burst?

[lone sequoia]

if bay still have cover

[late tiger]

Ok, good enough

Thanks

[shell hazel]

how much CS your helm got? could make or break that team to some degree

[fleet skiff]

I have S anis, but only as a solo Nikke, no MLB or cores her boobas are amazing so def want more of her

[shell hazel]

if you lack CS you could b1 too late, not sure if your moran fired before they b3?

not found a great way to see... 😛

[umbral belfry]

@valid inlet I can finally test out my p5 poli vs defending sgs

[shell hazel]

this assumes 15% CS on their batteries and 15% on your HelmT

[fleet skiff]

Is this good or bad? (skills for PVP defense rookie)

[umbral belfry]

finally

[shell hazel]

the time is upon us!

[umbral belfry]

go poli this is what we trained for

[shell hazel]

🚓

[umbral belfry]

please tell me you didn't burst with scar

[fleet skiff]

I auto

[umbral belfry]

so scar bursted?

[placid bloom]

that's not PvP, that's shooting range

[umbral belfry]

55k burst damage please say it isn't so

[shell hazel]

that's like 1 second in lol

[placid bloom]

that's 1 second into shooting range

[umbral belfry]

oh LMAO

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-freaky-mizuki-gif-13878801844491664765

[umbral belfry]

we don't know until you try it out cat

[placid bloom]

they were just checking Jackal links

Helm not linked

[umbral belfry]

noir needs to be p5 then

[shell hazel]

ye

[cunning crown]

Only 10%, still a wip

[placid bloom]

if you have 10% you can just give her adjutant and it's good enough

11% on Helm is the same as 15% on RL

[fleet skiff]

No idea, I just put on auto to see what skills activates on who

[fleet skiff]

Somebody asked me to check what lines links I think

[mystic rain]

ok place da bets bois

i should win this ez\

[fleet skiff]

what do you mean?

[fleet skiff]

yeah just had to see lines haha

[umbral belfry]

you said auto, so I assumed you full bursted. but it was just a second in

[sterile matrix]

Closer than we thought

[fleet skiff]

this is full first burst with scarlet 3 (paused the second burst animations were over)

[shell hazel]

yeah, adjutant on helm from 10% to 12% would mean you burst 6 frames quicker

[late tiger]

Does biscuit protect cover of bay?

[sterile matrix]

How u get this view from shiftpat searching for the players ?

[shell hazel]

may not sound like a lot but it's faster, and could be the diff between b1 or not b1

[umbral belfry]

you win

[umbral belfry]

[fleet skiff]

So uhm

[umbral belfry]

what are her skill levels

[fleet skiff]

I forgot to add a cube for Arena on Helm

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[fleet skiff]

Like this?

[mystic rain]

thers this uhh chinese program from github

[fleet skiff]

If my Nikke just have a battle cube on, does that carry over to PVP as well or how does it work?

[sterile matrix]

Wow so I just use my photo editing skills gemini chat gpt wasnt able to generate it

[mystic rain]

can we post links here

probably not

[shell hazel]

this was for @cunning crown

[sterile matrix]

Try

[shell hazel]

your own use of adjutant would differ as to whether you should use it or not

[mystic rain]

@glacial hound can u send that champs arena picture maker

[fleet skiff]

Helm regular battle cube rn is Healing one

[shell hazel]

normally I'd just run resi or bastion, adjutant is just if you want more CS to hit certain speeds, it doesn't always do anything

and in fact may do nothing it depends how much CS you have and what team you have her in

[mystic rain]

nvm found it

[fleet skiff]

Damn okay, do I just take it off helm again? I have not roles lines on her, just upgraded her gear

[mystic rain]

https://github.com/open-junk/nikke-cjjc-automator/releases

[umbral belfry]

[fleet skiff]

My Helm lines are pretty basic

[shell hazel]

you got 15% CS on the initial rolls lol

[placid bloom]

automated MS paint replacement

[mystic rain]

its hacks

dont report ty

))

[late tiger]

Does Biscuit protect cover of Bay and does Nero need defense lines?

[placid bloom]

no and not really but it's fine if you have them

[mystic rain]

atk crit stacking on nero tech

[placid bloom]

Nero really shouldn't be dying before burst and once you burst she shouldn't die

[mystic rain]

🤫

[late tiger]

Got it, thanks o7

[onyx scaffold]

what do u think

[fleet skiff]

Is that good?

Do I roll more % for CS lines?

[swift mango]

Idk chief, that Nero doesn't look like it could tank 4 SG.

And Idk if their Vesti have enough investment to just kill Scar before she bursts.

[late tiger]

Dont you mean rapunzel?

[mystic rain]

yea 15 is good could be higher

esp if its first rolls since thats free t11 lines

[swift mango]

If it's exactly like he showed then left is attacker.

[mystic rain]

now u could roll for more atk and ele for pvp and pve purposes and that would be maxxed out helm

[onyx scaffold]

man

[mystic rain]

x4 atk cs ele

[umbral belfry]

what are the odds right t1 is 2.5

[shell hazel]

helm is so expensive, depends what else you need to do

[fleet skiff]

But if I reroll too much, will Helm begin to link steal?

[onyx scaffold]

lemme check

[mystic rain]

well yea but that would also depend on ur other dps investments so ig u do have to be careful

[onyx scaffold]

yes it looks quite fast

[fleet skiff]

okay thanks for info

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

if you just need helm for burst gen 15% cs basic helm is good

[umbral belfry]

I've seen 2.5 noise tank double buff scar

[onyx scaffold]

oh i checked wrong team

yeah that noise cindy is 3RL

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

with CS it can be 2.5RL

[onyx scaffold]

i watch their previous fight. it is 3rl

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna assume they checked replays to make sure

[mystic rain]

isnt noise blanc kind of bad

[swift mango]

Well, the left guy is higher synch level.

[umbral belfry]

there's better options but not horrible

[onyx scaffold]

yeah but like blood says. team 3 and 4 are hard to guess because of invesment

[swift mango]

His scar also max core

[umbral belfry]

are you the type to vote solely on higher level blood

[swift mango]

I mean, 2 buff scar vs Noise Cindy. We count on Max core and synch level too.

[onyx scaffold]

higher level means higher research level

[umbral belfry]

if right t1 noise really is 3rl and not 2.5 then yes I'd say left win

[mystic rain]

how much cores does scar want to nuke thru noise b1

[shell hazel]

btw should I convert the spare things into research things?

[mystic rain]

max?

[fleet skiff]

I just use Helm cause somebody said I should add her for PVP she was not built until then, then somebody told me she is good for raids and Kraken as well

[umbral belfry]

I just know it is possible for noise at the right speed to tank a double buff scar but bc it's apparently 3rl it's unlikely now

[onyx scaffold]

look at this bullshet. i lost credit and win frame due to this

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

xmaiden is busted atm with the double skill

the seasonal buff

[mystic rain]

what even happened here 😭

[onyx scaffold]

btw why are people using poli treasure and put her p3 instead of anne

[swift mango]

I think if it's minmaxed double buffed scar with Max core scar and RH, plus higher synch it's higher chance Scar would pass through.

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315285264947613726/1412077928065400852/nikke.exe_2025.09.01_-_21.12.29.01.mp4?ex=68b6fb8d&is=68b5aa0d&hm=3bd0f8b42c2ce939979dc728d5629118205e6872c28804105c7397a6eb182b42&

[swift mango]

But yeah, anything could happen

[cedar orbit]

lowrolled into attacker

[umbral belfry]

backsh*ted

[shell hazel]

casual xmaiden hitting for 7M 😛

[onyx scaffold]

hime running keripo teams but his emt is not 25% cs -. -
let's see