pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

oh ele weakness

can move siren away from p2 tbh

jackal scarlet blanc siren laplace

[glad meteor]

Siren is deadge

[tropic summit]

still serves the purpose to deny indom buff

[shell hazel]

think we should just skip the vesti team and consider vesti the cindy team

[lone sequoia]

can't you just use noah/biscuit siren/rh/rosanna against vesti team?

or another b3

[tropic summit]

well var2 should win both sides either way

T3 is on 2RL vs 2.5RL, you're already at B3 when they're starting ros nuke, scarlet is dead to xmaiden burst

[shell hazel]

yeah scar is generally the team I can reliably beat

[glad meteor]

His rh burst failed him last time, but dk how much bigger helmt will be

[tropic summit]

T2 is double rotation, your RH will hit them when they're off from noise and noah DR

[glad meteor]

Oh

[tropic summit]

the vid above was single rotation

[shell hazel]

scar team dies as long as I have anti-scar nuke and I burst with any decent enough b3

[glad meteor]

cindy decoy is beeg though

[tropic summit]

ye

if anything T3 is the one you can commit less resources

T2 is definitely vulnerable to double rotation RH, as we already got a big hint from previous round

T1 you still should challenge it although

the trick is in denying indom and getting vesti out of the picture early

since they're on non natural 2RL, a rosanna would deny their speed too, while also pressuring vesti

a splasher + rosanna can kill vesti pre 3RL

e.g. laplace + rosanna

[glad meteor]

We just gotta wait till anniversary for vesti counter.

When entering battle reduce fire element damage by 90%

[tropic summit]

just deny her indom and she's glass

[glad meteor]

If you have 2rl b1 buffer she still cooks

[tropic summit]

oh var3 actually

enemy T1 is no longer 2RL, vesti is sniped, noah protects against xmaiden, seems good

feels like the safest approach of the previous ones

[shell hazel]

I got 1 shot on this basically 😄

if it fails it doesn't matter much

but I won't burn gems before the next reset

[tropic summit]

realistically, you're hitting vesti with both helmT and rosanna, on faster speed and with their link broken

if she's not ded with that, it's interesting on its own

[shell hazel]

want me to send?

[tropic summit]

if you wanna sure

🍿

[shell hazel]

well I'm in science mode so it's fine if it loses doesn't matter 🙂

just don't want to send stuff I'm super unsure on

[tropic summit]

meh previous team was expecting a lot out of single rotation RH afterall

i'm unfortunately biased because my RH is stacked af

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel got 2nd atk roll on scarlet

and 2nd ele roll on sbs

but lost charge speed and charge dmg so my dps didnt change much

[shell hazel]

charge speed/charge dmg doesn't do much on scar I think

[hollow lagoon]

speed helps a bit

dmg is very little ye

[tropic summit]

i guess i can see only thing going wrong tho

oh nvm

they ded to 2RL even if 2.5RL

their B1 is jackal, no protection

would need team on 19%CS to get to B2 before you're on B3

[shell hazel]

dicey cp but it's not out of range

it's my Bay it's like half the cp of everyone else 😄

[tropic summit]

yeh she's the root cause

[shell hazel]

it basically is out of range but also it's not

[tropic summit]

15,4%

[shell hazel]

that wouldn't hold up for long if they get a single level that is dead

[tropic summit]

that's risky

any doll materials left for bay?

[shell hazel]

no

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmmm

swapping trina with centi any gain on CP?

15,3% would be far safer

[shell hazel]

a little yes

[tropic summit]

oh that's neat

13,9%, sounds good

[shell hazel]

using jackal adds a lot more as well

[tropic summit]

oh right we had jackal open

[shell hazel]

any reason we're avoiding jackal?

[tropic summit]

i just forgot because i was still thinking of T2

turn it to this

record and leggo

[shell hazel]

bit ropey again lmao

[tropic summit]

can do

[shell hazel]

still in range mind

[tropic summit]

jackal xmaiden bay trina laplace

should return your CP

assuming rumani is lower than trina

[hollow lagoon]

man why do i keep rolling atk onto line 2 on sbs

[shell hazel]

yes it does

[tropic summit]

aight

[shell hazel]

she is yes

[tropic summit]

wew of quite a bit too

give your gym girl sum love when you can

[shell hazel]

she's not badly built it would mainly be OL lines

she's 4/4 OL etc

[tropic summit]

final draft

so what we expecting:

[shell hazel]

OK so both are 2RL and both look OK cp wise

[tropic summit]

T1

link breaks at 1RL for enemy
burst on 2RL, ros nukes vesti and blanc
helmt nukes vesti
you outdps after biscuit rans out and shield goes off

T2

skipperoni

T3

anti nuke + snipe scarlet

[shell hazel]

yeah OK we can send it

happy for me to rec and go?

[tropic summit]

🍰

[tropic summit]

sounds good, yolo

[lone sequoia]

is that blanc team 3RL?

[tropic summit]

2.5RL

they'll have jackal B1 likely

[lone sequoia]

no emi?

[shell hazel]

my bracket doesn't have emi

[tropic summit]

nah he's on non emi server creation date

[fast jetty]

any suggestion on beating the top?

[shell hazel]

we just got merged in CA with people with s.anis (we don't have her either!) 😄

[lone sequoia]

can't you make a 3RL blanc team with b1/b5 p4-5, mihara p2

[gritty ridge]

Im so glad I made the cutoff for baby bracket

[shell hazel]

cut off can change, as you may find out

[gritty ridge]

Please no

Ive only been playing like 4.5 months

[shell hazel]

just got to wait your turn

[glad meteor]

Hime bracket is whale bracket

You have cup aceross and hime

[tropic summit]

how's your bay?

[glad meteor]

That jwoz aria is big too

[shell hazel]

what did you have in mind? essentially I need to send something and rail had an idea, I have 1 try left today but I would get more tomorrow, and I can keep on hammering it until I beat it

[lone sequoia]

just a 3RL DoT team

[fast jetty]

totally not built, maybe i can build her

i am thinking since my noah sbs team can beat team1/2 but i dont have a 2nd noah.. maybe building bay will make sense

[gritty ridge]

I dont, hime does

I am gonna be the new bully of my bracket soon

[tropic summit]

well bay makes scarlet glass cannon trivial, also is not punished by siren in p1 or p2

[glad meteor]

You got moved to another bracket?

[gritty ridge]

Oh yeah rail; of drake, bay, and poli who should I treasure

[tropic summit]

this would make it pretty easy, assuming you're not CP gapped

[fast jetty]

if bay counter scarlet glass cannon team i'd build her
what's a example team with it? like their team 3?

[gritty ridge]

I am baby bracket, hime got yanked

[tropic summit]

you can leave bay on blue doll, 2OL, 4/4/4 tbh, if you do not need the CP

[tropic summit]

drake bay poli, in that order

[glad meteor]

No more bully

[tropic summit]

although you can skip poli

bay treasure helps for CP gapping, drakeT is useful on pve aswell

[lone sequoia]

tove for pve

[gritty ridge]

Thx, and I assume laplace>bay if I pull her?

[tropic summit]

well my laplaceT is allowing me to hit on a 64+ level dif whel, to give you an idea of how useful she is

[shell hazel]

I guess I'll send rail suggestion for now and if it fails happy to test yours tomorrow 🙂

[tropic summit]

it has high chances, we're running it with a lot of info

and it's tailored hard now

[gritty ridge]

Laplace and pepper are my only missing missilis units

[shell hazel]

if it fails it fails, not going to lose sleep over it anyway

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[tropic summit]

well you're essentially being the pilot to set the first proper counter to vesti indom aside from indom mirror

none of my bracket is using her properly so i can't run it myself

[shell hazel]

fails lol

[lone sequoia]

ff

[shell hazel]

team 1 was looking promising until it wasn't haha, vesti did die

[lone sequoia]

my turn next time

[tropic summit]

you lost to the trade post burst? dafuq.

[shell hazel]

xmaiden killed me I think

[tropic summit]

oh out dpsed

[shell hazel]

scarlet easy enough

[tropic summit]

figured you'd outsustain, interesting

[lone sequoia]

first xmaiden snipe in 8 months

[tropic summit]

meh show vid makes for good material

[shell hazel]

yeah np uploading

[glad meteor]

I think biscuit died

[tropic summit]

i really don't wanna resort to slow indom cuz that's downright boring

[shell hazel]

yeah she did

[glad meteor]

Early

[shell hazel]

fairly so not immediately

[tropic summit]

oh if you didn't get 2nd stack of biscuit that's the problem

gonna need to run trina in p2 and move centi away

would ensure noah gets x2 stacks

[shell hazel]

xmaiden is bugged ofc atm because bug arena

[tropic summit]

yeah that doesn't help

double the proccs...

[shell hazel]

yeah, it's processing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAndhAOf8WA

[tropic summit]

wow.

you kidding me, 1hitko each charge shoot

how stacked is that xmaiden

you see this sh*t @glad meteor

the problem wasn't vesti, it was xmaiden all along

but ye biscuit died pre 2nd stack, not gud either

[quartz rover]

Isn't xmaiden double proccing

[tropic summit]

i personally never seen an enemy xmaiden dealing that much dmg

[quartz rover]

Dunno if they fixed that bug yet

[tropic summit]

truly amazing what they did to arena bugs

xmaiden seasonal buff stronk

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain @fathom rock @swift mango @hollow lagoon build your xmaiden

[shell hazel]

yeah it really doesn't help 😄

[tropic summit]

well sorry hippo, now that's BS i didn't get to see yet

[shell hazel]

np I appreciate the effort even if we didn't win 🙂

[tropic summit]

fix CP and try this instead, swap centi and trina

[shell hazel]

also .. science, right?

[tropic summit]

or just go with T2 instead, at least no buggy BS

(tomorrow or later on anyway)

[placid bloom]

Idk, that damage seems pretty unreal even if it wasn't double proc

[tropic summit]

yeah i've never seen that b4

downright utter BS

[shell hazel]

is that 7M? 😮

[placid bloom]

yes

[shell hazel]

lol

so we don't want to kill vesti, check

[tropic summit]

if anything, you wanna kill vesti and deny xmaiden

[shell hazel]

not like I'm fighting at deficit 😛

[tropic summit]

helmT would slowly clear her out since she shoots from p5 onward

but your noah needs that second stack

[shell hazel]

for me? they don't have siren ? 😛

[tropic summit]

no i mean if you can run trina in p2 you can spare biscuit stack for noah alone, if centi in p2 she eats it

but to run trina you'd tank CP on T3, as earlier

so once CP is fixed, you can run that and fix biscuit stack usage

[shell hazel]

not sure how easily I can fix CP on anyone here, don't have much materials

[tropic summit]

that'd give you 5s extra to tank xmaiden and let helm clear her

[shell hazel]

maybe we're better off just smashing our own vesti/xmaiden into cindy comp?

[tropic summit]

oh i guess you can abuse the bug on your own side

but is that really what you want? bug abuse is ehhhhh

[shell hazel]

no ofc not but this is all screwed until they fix it 😄

[tropic summit]

bug abuse comp

xmaiden team goes vs their cindy, siren stuns noah

give it a try tomrrow i guess

[shell hazel]

yeah I will try it thanks 😄

[tropic summit]

nah thanks to you, got to see how BS arena seasonal buff are

[hollow lagoon]

Me is excluded again of course

[shell hazel]

it is kind of crazy they haven't acknowledged or mentioned the double procs yet - bay has really screwed arena mechanics for like the last month

[tropic summit]

wdym you're there

don't mind the tiny (edited) there

[hollow lagoon]

Arena is so buggy rn

[tropic summit]

i just hope my chinnits don't notice it

that's not the kind of DPS i want them to use

[hollow lagoon]

Man I didn’t include Xmaiden dis round I think

[shell hazel]

i'm marking my vids as private as I go btw but if you want anything unprivated just shout me

in case my whale is watching here

[hollow lagoon]

Nvm I did, on indom team…??.?.?

[tropic summit]

ya go ahead is fine for me

[hollow lagoon]

Oh Xmaiden has slightly higher burst gen then Laplace

[tropic summit]

higher actually due to double procc

[shell hazel]

yeah arena seasonal buffs 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent Laplace also double proc?

[shell hazel]

it doesn't impact everyone, I don't think lapt is included

[hollow lagoon]

The mechanic is the same

Mmm

[tropic summit]

i didn't notice lappy particular differences

at least on burst gen proccs

[hollow lagoon]

Oh well I’m feeling I’ll get divine punishment for not using queen of my harem Cinderella again

Might not even get out of advance

It happened last time I didn’t use her

[tropic summit]

slow cindy actually is my highest and most consistent winning team

noah 2RL follows and then scarlet and SGs

[hollow lagoon]

My scarlet wins the most

3rl Cindy second

Then the stall?

Then sg

[tropic summit]

vesti gonna stonk hard in CA if ppl using her on single buff

even more so if indommed

punishes both fast and slow teams

[hollow lagoon]

I replaced Cinderella with vesti on my Noah team

[tropic summit]

my siren p2 about to go obsolete if matched against

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna be a weird one

[tropic summit]

wows

[shell hazel]

one thing to note Rail I have not invested my xmaiden that much, she's SR-15 and good skill levels but her rolls aren't fantastic

[tropic summit]

daring to go 3RL-2.5RL noah

[hollow lagoon]

2.5 ye

[tropic summit]

hmm knowing opponent stats on their xmaiden would be lovely

looked pretty darn stacked

[hollow lagoon]

How tf did u know my rl speed by just looking

[tropic summit]

fairly standard chinnit archetype

noah flex flex biscuit rumani, generally 3RL or 2.5RL via CS%

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean some atk and ele rolls and you're kind of laughing. my whale seems to be following general roll and investment pvp advice even if they're also whaling for cores

makes them an annoying opponent to deal with

[hollow lagoon]

Might be slightly faster I have some cs% on rumani and Noah and biscuit but not sure if the 12% overall helps

[tropic summit]

well tbh in this case it's just pure BS bug

[hollow lagoon]

Tho mica could very well just die

[tropic summit]

in my whole experience in pvp, i've never seen that kind of BS from xmaiden

definitely not 1hitko per charge shoot on full HP on non deficit and with noah DR on

[hollow lagoon]

Must be massively stacked to 1h ko helm from full

[tropic summit]

well helmt is actually ele weak would make the most sense

[hollow lagoon]

Quad ele Lel?

[tropic summit]

the others don't though

especially the defenders/supporters

[hollow lagoon]

Centi def don’t

Iron code of all things

[shell hazel]

if you want to watch the video again at all I can mark as unlisted again

[radiant coral]

in Champion, how can you tell if you're doing defending or attacking

[hollow lagoon]

Click cheer and left is attack

[tropic summit]

top/left is attacker, bottom/right is defender

[shell hazel]

you can't tell during qualifier league

[glad meteor]

Yeah If first round of ca. no trend has been found

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe highest cp is defend

[radiant coral]

what about in prelims?

[hollow lagoon]

No clue

[radiant coral]

o

[tropic summit]

RNG iirc

[radiant coral]

thanks

[tropic summit]

i'm still recovering from seeing that BS, might need a pukebag

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe you get hand picked and that’s why it takes 22 hours of batteling

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

damn shame i don't have xmaiden built properly, would probably be still crap even if on seasonal buff

[hollow lagoon]

Mine’s on basic unrolled pink with no ele rolls

[keen vapor]

Hi Rail I got sniped

Mb, is Red

[tropic summit]

it was me

[keen vapor]

No, it was me :deadge:

I watched it happening before reset, was attacking back but got system error

Defeated by lag

[shell hazel]

but yeah my chinnit whale knows how to abuse the latest pvp bugs themselves I think 😄

[radiant coral]

can Siren (p3) die easily if she's targetting a linked scarlet-jackal?

[thin abyss]

Yeah, she usually dies before she can stun Scarlet

[radiant coral]

dang

[tropic summit]

blame SU for even allowing that BS

a simple QoL could fix it

attacks go up to 3-4 hours before reset, can attack back during that time frame if attacked before (only once and against previous attacker)

you'll notice snipers will think twice before doing that then

[fathom rock]

Oh god a 2nd one

[glad meteor]

Besti food

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

Damn look at all those sr15s and skill book investments, to get invalidated by a single vesti

[gritty ridge]

Alright I need doro

So i can use snow white

[hollow lagoon]

Wot?

[gritty ridge]

I wanna run snow white pvp

[vapid lake]

And what exactly is snow white gonna do in pvp

[tropic summit]

snipe teams on 8RL

[tropic summit]

on single buff?

[vapid lake]

I'd sic rh+blanc on it just to be safe

[tropic summit]

reasonable

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

2.5RL indom vesti is nasty

[keen vapor]

I was the first one to use it

But PVP needs more updates indeed

[tropic summit]

1. prevent attacking more than twice the same opponent in the same day, if attack results in a loss, you can no longer attack the same opponent
2. attacks can no longer be carried out 4 hours before reset, although players who got attacked can attack back once during that time frame
3. rookie no longer allows attacking the same opponent more than twice a day
4. cp deficit is now nerfed from 15.4% to 20%
5. players with 61 levels above expected synchro rate are now rotated to different matching bracket for their synchro

[grand plaza]

Do you think Srosanna has a use on current SPA or there are simply better teams, synergies etc?

[tropic summit]

she's a copium pick, poor burst gen and not remarkable buff just don't give her any spot

can work on attack, will be detrimental on def

[keen vapor]

Not at all

[grand plaza]

Hmm yeah, more like CA only at this point, thanks

[glad meteor]

Damage taken debuff good in pvp. But her buff is smaller and just poopy blanc

[keen vapor]

I'm running out of gold mats send help

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-you-i-am-here-for-you-i-will-support-got-you-covered-freedom-gif-14719789

[keen vapor]

Ah right, Redtracer, what's your raid score

[tropic summit]

what is a raid

[keen vapor]

how many billions

[grand plaza]

Wait.. I just realized I wrote Srosanna 🤦‍♂️

I was asking for Rosanna

[tropic summit]

oh right i've to play it again

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

well that's a whole different story

rosanna has spot in both CA and SP, def and atk teams

very recommended building her as she can trivialize jackal teams and attackers in general

7/10/10 40atk%+, ele atk, crit rate, SR15

[grand plaza]

Hmm alright, I haven't seen her in my bracket like never and instead seeing full of Jackal-Scarlet or Noise-Noah etc. teams so I thought maybe she kinda went down on meta to CA, but guess not

[grand plaza]

I don't think even my Pve nikkes have %40 atk yet

[tropic summit]

watch last match for a show case

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Sir, is not that easy

[tropic summit]

who said it was easy, it's recommended

[umbral belfry]

you wanna know what is easy echo?

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[grand plaza]

I am kinda confused, how Rosanna killed both without touching Jackal

[vapid lake]

🤝 never thought i'd live to see the day

[tropic summit]

rosanna target priority is on attackers

hits the first 2 attackers from left to right

[vapid lake]

Im leveling too many units' bursts to 10 it seems

[tropic summit]

if 1 or less attackers, defaults to p1

additionally, jackal link is broken by rosanna debuff at 1RL

denying damage share, making attackers vulnerable

[grand plaza]

Holy f I didn't know this at all, I just thought ppl using her against jackal because of big damage burst

[keen vapor]

Asuka, Drake, Mihara and we have 4 important units next + anni

We need a new 5x5

[vapid lake]

We need road to superhero

[keen vapor]

Road to Science

[grand plaza]

I refuse to level up Drake's further considering how annoying to use

[vapid lake]

Let autoburst target it for u whenever it's drake's turn

[keen vapor]

Annoying? Is just extra tap normal Dorothy is the annoying one

[vapid lake]

I hate this forced 6 month break on MC wall

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[grand plaza]

Not if enemy is moving a bit

Honestly both annoying but at least Dorothy's was 2D, Drake is 3D targeting for some reason

[keen vapor]

I'll cope with story mode giving extra outpost levels till it's here

[vapid lake]

No way shiftup will never give players so much free shit, that is easily 300 outpost levels or so

[tulip quest]

4 less whales less money for Shift up XD

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bark-gif-20068634

[grand plaza]

I am coping for a SSS tier true damage until I came there

[keen vapor]

Never said a lot story mode only needs the story stages, not the filler in-between

[tulip quest]

I used alice for MC wall need 1 hit wonder character

[vapid lake]

If i use alice i will have to wait until lv 501 or even 521

no thanks

[tulip quest]

No need to Mald if cannot just wait

Or Mald until u get to Hospital

[vapid lake]

No i need to gap my opponents with the 102 cd breakpoint

To widen the sync level gap even more

Especially if they don't hoard or do math ahead of time

[grand plaza]

It was after Snek boss?

[tulip quest]

PVE is also PVP u need to Invest big in ur top 5 main Nikke campaign units

or you'll fall off in Hard campaign

[keen vapor]

PVP is PVE²

[vapid lake]

Why do u think i'm forced to take a 6 month break

[tulip quest]

Yea wait bruh don't mald that LOL

That's high deficit

Heck close to 50% which is limit

[keen vapor]

Are there any high deficit clears with Euhnwa?

[vapid lake]

No, and who the fk build eunhwa

[tulip quest]

ahhhhh Eunwha wut?

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Even if eunhwa could breka the slipper easily im pretty sure u lose too much dmg from not having sanis/mmast so u just time out and lose anyway

In the end it's still wait for lv 481 angle

[tulip quest]

Yea ur main Issue is the hardest 4x Buff wall that requires u to 1 hit slippers

[keen vapor]

Wtf you're 430 and I'm 465

[tulip quest]

1st hit is crucial

[tulip quest]

Yea exactly that's why I suggest to not mald that XD

[vapid lake]

Hoarding box until jan 2026 new chapters is the correct move, the math checks out

That 10 cd jump too huge

[keen vapor]

I will have 9k hours by then

[vapid lake]

for u tho u'll be 481 by the time nov's new chapters are out, u better be pass MC by then

[keen vapor]

2 months is 9 more levels only, with Challenge stage resource maybe 10

I'll need 4 wipeouts to be even close

[vapid lake]

Open some box for 6 levels, there u go

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Small sacrifice

[tulip quest]

Now Sacrifice for the GREATER GOOD Go make ur Campaign Characters BLUE LINES OR BLACK LINES

[jagged mesa]

So what I'm gathering from this is that for the next 160 synchro levels I'm only going to have 5 chapters of content

[eager mountain]

shes half built... functional back up single target b3, was meant for anti rosa as well as non attacker b3, with good gen
i never slept on her just that shes not strong enough for tons of rocks lol

[keen vapor]

That's 8k core dust loss I rather gem 250 more everyday!

[keen vapor]

My maiden lacking attack but not skill levels

[tulip quest]

250 GEMS every day kinda insane

[eager mountain]

well my xmaiden built is still more like for ai mc

[keen vapor]

I hoarded a lot and no sign of Sora No Otoshimono collab, ofc I'm going insane

my savings will be used for reruns

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/icarus-sora-no-otoshimono-đập-slap-clap-gif-19900401

[keen vapor]

Chop, chop CHOP

[rain totem]

Does anyone have a team suggestions the first team can beat the first and third but can not get 2 wins

[keen vapor]

You mean your Scarlet can- oh they have Blanc as well

[eager mountain]

if u can get the cd jump with those boxes rn its beyond worth

[tulip quest]

Who is stronger off burst LaplaceT or Vesti T?

[keen vapor]

Trina? With Siren against that Noah seems easy win

[vapid lake]

The 50 level gap says otherwise

[keen vapor]

I'm going to be honest with you, I don't think I can defeat MC at 481 I'm skill issued

[keen vapor]

Penguin, what's your raid score

[tulip quest]

Rock it for more CP

[vapid lake]

13b

[eager mountain]

just get 4 elem 4 atk 3 charge dmg 1 ammo all blk line c7 ein

[keen vapor]

I've been defeated once again

[tulip quest]

Yea True that also

on my case It's Cindy attack Ele all 4 set

[keen vapor]

My Cindy lacks 4th atk line

[tulip quest]

ROCK Her

U will USE Her also on Behemoth

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Cindy bad dont use her

[tulip quest]

I don't have Ein so...

[gritty ridge]

Use isabel

I hate cindy

[keen vapor]

That'll require me to get off her only ammo line

[keen vapor]

Absolute?

[vapid lake]

No who tf got resources to build them

[keen vapor]

I just don't seem to get 4b on Crown team

My Mihara 3 attack no ele

[tulip quest]

Yea don't I guess

[keen vapor]

1 ammo line

[tulip quest]

Mihara Attack is greater value than Ele

[gritty ridge]

She has no self buff

So she needs as many atk buffs as possible

[eager mountain]

in context of tmiranda?

[tulip quest]

yap

[eager mountain]

ye lol... tricky to team her, my thelm has way too high atk that, 4 atk line wont do it for mihara

c7 vs lb1 lmao

[tulip quest]

Ya I just did Rei Grave on Raid

my HelmT too buffed

[eager mountain]

thelm atk lines are all 2nd or 3rd line as well, really expensive to drop them, herself also scales with atk as a water carry
and ofc atk also highly relevant for helm pvp

[keen vapor]

I never put atk on my Helm to begin with

She's the ultimate buffer/battery

She must never have too much attack

[eager mountain]

ye imma mono fire as well

[eager mountain]

and thus benching both pvp b3 helm and pve b3 helm
i mean wont often put her with jackel anyways

[crystal flicker]

Instead of ATK, get more CS

[eager mountain]

as if shes not 4cs already

[crystal flicker]

She's not 25%

[eager mountain]

... well... that will take way too many rocks

and not verified, no one tested my numbers

[crystal flicker]

It's said if Helm has 25% CS, she'll move in the speed of light

[tulip quest]

How many charge speed u need on Vesti anyone knows?

[eager mountain]

its for 3rl helm team to cast b1 right before siren stun

[tulip quest]

you just need to buff ur mihara more instead of Nerfing HelmT

SHE'S too valuable in pvp and pve as well

[eager mountain]

and thus the point of where 3rl helm speed is actually compeitive cuz many others would wanna outspeed siren as well

[eager mountain]

i need 4 blk atk lines to beat helms atk
not doing that

[tulip quest]

don't you also need attack for her?

CS, Atk,Ele and 2x ammo to be precise

tho thaT CS is insane

[eager mountain]

4atk mandatory, she sux in sr so 4ele isnt that needed imo

and ofc plus cs and ammo

tho, next pilgrim could be true dmg

69% chance

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/eren-yeager-gif-24439040

[eager mountain]

tho still not pulling emma and eunhwa, gonna cope with wishlist

[tulip quest]

What's Vesti's break point for Charge speed

[tulip quest]

Emma Eunwha is COPIUM

[brazen grail]

Any tips for champion arena?

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[tulip quest]

Build your best teams and RNG

[eager mountain]

thats what they said about rouge... and then we get rouge and xmaiden....

[crystal flicker]

I've tested in rookie against rubbish, she kills

[tulip quest]

No rouge is good stand alone

she is CDR

[brazen grail]

Thing is
My sp arena squads power is 12k

[tulip quest]

N Semi Healer

[eager mountain]

i always thought rouge is better then wifeD lmao way before cindy release... they wont believe... pierce buff simply sux in no core sr trend

[tulip quest]

if ur less than level 400 aaaa nothing can do bout that

tho u still put on level 400 like others the cp and Rock advantage aaa

[eager mountain]

well the point is mf back then be like she is more like volume

[brazen grail]

My rookie arena squad is around 4.8k

[gritty ridge]

Please tell me you meant million

[crystal flicker]

Hes newbie

[tulip quest]

yea that's just life

[crystal flicker]

PvP is basically a race to pass 160 asap, till then CP pad will be majority

[eager mountain]

dont think theres a strict break point, she lose to same cs if she wanna get her 2nd shot for gen anyways
if for punishing p1-p3 siren, 1 decent cs would do, thats minimum
if theres 1 tier of cs advantage, she can land extra hit before b1 cast, still wont get it if enemy has same cs

[tulip quest]

oh 1 charge speed only?

4% I assume?

[eager mountain]

higher the merrier as always

but 1 line absolute minimum

[tulip quest]

I want her Elemented also cause it pressures biscuit less Noah and Blanc + sbs

[tulip quest]

1 Line Improves the 2RL on Nikke Deck right?

[eager mountain]

if u run her with emi u can punish p1-p3 wind even harder without 4 elem

[tulip quest]

yEA I run her also with Emi

both splash

[eager mountain]

rounded 5 minimum
id say cs is still better then too much elem if they know to respect vesti

[crystal flicker]

These are what I running this CA
Though I change the order last minute, but the idea still the same lol

2.5
2.5
1.6
2.5
2

[tulip quest]

I'll try to get CS if I can

[crystal flicker]

I really need more adjutant next UR

[tulip quest]

That's a Risky comp

but tanky 1 Usually there is at least 2x 2rl in C.A

[crystal flicker]

SG is 2RL

[tulip quest]

I will InVesti for sure thats my current goal

[tulip quest]

yea I guess

[crystal flicker]

That Cindy comp actually should be 2.4 or 2.3

[eager mountain]

and to punish 5sg speed team, 8cs minimum. not a common speed tho
so ye id say at least 2

[tulip quest]

Aight thanks that info Valuable

at least 8% then with 2X Ammo Prio then Attack Ele

[eager mountain]

tho p3-5 5cs vesti can still punish 5sg ig, just one frame advantage

[tulip quest]

I wanna see those numbers

I was really surprised they made a pvp unit this time, cause pve is usually the Meta of character creation for Nikke rarely pvp

[eager mountain]

they do occassionally release pvp meta, and vestis frames and gen are def designed

[tulip quest]

ya

I loved Emilia first time she came the concept of splash Hitter RL

[eager mountain]

rl is the only weapon that they can play around with lol

anything that doesnt function like trad guns can be classified as rl

tho... scar is a ar, not like her atk animation makes much sense

[crystal flicker]

IMagine a new weapon type

[tulip quest]

XD could be Nice also tho

[crystal flicker]

So yeah that Cindy comp is 2.4RL

[tulip quest]

I mean even grand order has so many Rock paper scissors

not just 3

[crystal flicker]

You need seasonal buff to change the rock paper scissor

or should I say, seasonal BUG

[tulip quest]

Well Nikke still in it's 3rd year many things could still change

[eager mountain]

could indeed use a new weapon type even tho there wont be

liberalio's tentacle

[crystal flicker]

3rd year, but SU already became so lazy with Nikke update

They don't even hire a game optimizer till the global riot lol

[eager mountain]

they should have some, just that used for console game dev, cuz nik is free cash and console games are demanding as hell to make

[eager mountain]

sec will have 0.10 increment there but not rl lol

[crystal flicker]

[gritty ridge]

[eager mountain]

8cs 4th shot pressure outspeeds 11cs 2rl b2...
so 11 against 15

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit you wanna help with these?

[tropic summit]

they look easy

T1 indom
T2 scarlet
T3 skip

you should be able to beat these on your own

[gritty ridge]

Ill see what I can cook up

How come skip t3?

[tropic summit]

you can commit to it if you want

[gritty ridge]

I was thinking stun noah then wipe with scar or cindy

[tropic summit]

there's a backup bay for a reason

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit p2

[tropic summit]

oh nvm that's dumb

that biscuit is pointless, go get em

[gritty ridge]

That bay is doing nothing lmao

[eager mountain]

"I TREASURED MY BAY I GOTTA USE HER SOMEWHERE"

[gritty ridge]

Very slow team too, looks 3rl

[tropic summit]

cheerleading bay being played for her true purpose i guess

[tulip quest]

Your Cindy lose to vesti

Nvermind it's not 2 RL

[eager mountain]

all the cores at sync 275, and the dolls
what a whale

sr15ing all those pvp units, might as well spent his rocks for cs, and yet that t3 lol

[gritty ridge]

I was not expecting noise to tank rh like that

[eager mountain]

4x sustain noise vs 1 buff rh....

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-gamer-speedrun-whipping-whisk-sweaty-gamer-gif-24775759

[gritty ridge]

Technically redhood double buffs herself

[eager mountain]

we count her b3 buff as b3 itself

else we can say cindy by alone has 1 buffer, no

[gritty ridge]

Fair

My problem is none of my batteries are higher enough cp rn

It appears im invest diffed for the moment

[eager mountain]

u should be able to beat him as for now but the gap is gonna keep increasing as he whales lol

[eager mountain]

and well for whoever tf that gets 25cs helm... vesti would want 11 cs
and well might as well get 25cs emi there, just thousands rocks lmfao

[gritty ridge]

All of my batteries tank cp too much to kill t2 pre burst and t1 is like 1.5rl minimum

Also the gap has been closing between us because im farther in progression

And I have yall to make me good teams

[eager mountain]

well then just find a way to beat him
cindy feeds ur rl if thats not enough hint

[gritty ridge]

Im aware, but I think youre unaware how low cp my utilities are rn

[eager mountain]

should be the easiest it can get, jesus christ... well can replace 4.92 with 4.63

[eager mountain]

gonna have to ol batteries anyways if u want a easier time to beat his a*s

[gritty ridge]

Trust me im working on it

Should I pull for vesti dupes?

[eager mountain]

i never advise any dups pull unless u want burst background so bad or u simp her so bad or u got the cash power to do so

well or.... rapi level of hard meta but 2% and not obtainable from wishlist like collab, plus scales off dups, doubt su is this stupid tho

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see

So if we happen to get bunny miranda or bready

[rich ledge]

@tropic summit he changed teams 🙁

[tropic summit]

they really like running rapunzel in p1 eh

[tropic summit]

what's your scarlet ammo count total? or how many ammo OLs does she have

[rich ledge]

1 ammo it's 30 ammo

What time zone are you in though? Haha not sure what time you are available for help

[tropic summit]

i'm only available when i feel like it so don't worry about it

[eager mountain]

i like chaotic defense

[tropic summit]

you can rotate your current helmT team against enemy scarlet team and stick with scarlet team against their noise/noah team

[tropic summit]

remind me, is his 30 ammo scarlet immune to siren stun due to reload window timing?

[rich ledge]

Yes scarlet 30 ammo dodges siren imo

[eager mountain]

not his trina if cs is low

[tropic summit]

wut what does trina CS% have to do with scarlet reload window

[eager mountain]

nothing

[tropic summit]

then you should be able to run those matchups, CP is barely below 15,4% so you're still fine

noah biscuit helmt alice rumani vs enemy scarlet
scarlet trina rh draket jackal vs their enemy cindy

[eager mountain]

well... wont nuke without trina b2 unless crit ig

[tropic summit]

he's on trina b2 and rh b1

he cleared that team previously

unless it's a 2.5RL then he might no longer be lethal

only one way to find out...

[rich ledge]

Just got Noah to SR15 to be safer as well

[eager mountain]

well gonna see how it goes lol

[eager mountain]

whats ur trina and jackel cs%

[rich ledge]

Jackal just has 4.92

[eager mountain]

[rich ledge]

Nothing on Trina haha

[eager mountain]

yolo

[eager mountain]

well 25cs helms best b1 would be... rosa
wont work against 15+cs tho

[rich ledge]

Team 2 is a loss, I didn't manage to take picture, when I tried to take the result it closed

The helm vs scarlet team lost

[eager mountain]

well... u can just clip it in result screen

[rich ledge]

Yea I was trying to open my video recorded and it swiped close 🙁

[eager mountain]

scar team won right

[rich ledge]

My scar vs Cindy won

So we just gotta work on helm vs scarlet

[eager mountain]

well u likely got stunned by rapun, i ran rapun defense as well
but lol... ur noah/bis/rumani was able to trigger sr15 rapun stun wtf
tho im just curious of t3 clip

[rich ledge]

I can just try again to get the video though I'll throw away the try today

[eager mountain]

well, just modify t2 for a bit
can win with deficit as long as no stun

[rich ledge]

How to avoid though? They will hit Rapunzel

[eager mountain]

simply kill her with noir

[rich ledge]

My noir only has 1 OL very low CP haha

[eager mountain]

i feel old when sync 402 doenst have ol'd noir

[rich ledge]

Yea noir isn't that good when I started already haha theres rouge and Blanc and school girls

Would soda do? They'll feed jackal?

[eager mountain]

well any high elem hard hitting outside of burst wind dps would do if ur team got her low enough to stun u

[eager mountain]

theres no fu*king way that rapun is linked while still stunning u....

[rich ledge]

Hmm so I can only replace Alice with soda right?

[eager mountain]

whats ur cp with noir

[eager mountain]

well... u can simply go with deficit with another sr, or just a strong wind dps in place

[rich ledge]

What another sr?

Deficit so I don't trigger Rapunzel?

[eager mountain]

just put sbs and rapun should be dead, ur sbs should be invested

[rich ledge]

Like this

[eager mountain]

uninvested sbs wtf

[rich ledge]

Well she is slightly invested, I just don't have enough rocks to totally go in

[eager mountain]

tell me u dont have a mana thats better invested

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @wet crystal did we just get merged up a CA bracket

[rich ledge]

Nah my mana not touched

Siren is more invested than SBS

[placid bloom]

yes the cutoff date has changed

[umbral belfry]

yes

[wet crystal]

higher chance for preliminary wipeouts yay

[umbral belfry]

at least we all went together (to get bullied)

[placid bloom]

our bracket is now summer 2024~end of winter 2025

so around July 2024~Feb 2025

[rich ledge]

Lol so what's my best option now?

[jagged mesa]

ok well then now i dont feel so bad about not having time to set my CA teams (not that it makes a diff)

[eager mountain]

there are many options i just want the safer ones

[gritty ridge]

Yall wanna play spot the whale?

[jagged mesa]

i think its the one with the miranda pfp

[gritty ridge]

How did you know

[eager mountain]

siren should do it ig
soda should also work
just surprised of low investment sbs

[wet crystal]

I wonder if there's a bigger pool combine after the re-release of the seasonal units

September right

[rich ledge]

So siren or soda is better?

[gritty ridge]

What manwha is ur pfp from

[wet crystal]

I couldn't recall, but I've had this snip saved in my files for a long time

[rich ledge]

With siren the RL will be slower though I guess

Oo with siren is still 2RL

[eager mountain]

nope its 2rl with anyone there

ig boda still hits harder then elem siren

or any decent sg

[rich ledge]

Ok then soda it is

[eager mountain]

clip both

dont think t3 is 100% win, want to confirm some stuff myself

[gritty ridge]

So chat, what are vesti counters

[placid bloom]

Rosanna

[gritty ridge]

Just rosa?

[placid bloom]

anything else is RNG

[gritty ridge]

2rl noah no go?

[placid bloom]

depending on what their defensive lineup is

[gritty ridge]

2 main vesti teams are noah and blanc right?

[wet crystal]

First bunny coming was Ade after all

[placid bloom]

yes

[gritty ridge]

True dmg makes issues for slower teams against noah

[rich ledge]

It's a win

[placid bloom]

still have to see whether these Prydwen preachers of 3x Abs + LapT + Emi team is real or not

but atm it doesn't seem like no-burst 4 shot is the way

[gritty ridge]

I wanna test bready indom vs vesti indom ele advantage may do something

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

indom war doesn't care about ele advantage, both of you will be 1 HP

only thing that matters is when indom times out and who lands the shot first

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but should be lower risk of losing pre burst

Which is what ive seen people talk abt in here

[eager mountain]

interesting, scar completely whiffed siren
so 22-23 ammo scar have another small con

[rich ledge]

Oh is it? A 30 ammo scarlet is better than 20+ I thought as long as below 32

[eager mountain]

22-23 ammo scar can cause rl in ranges of cs% to whiff, its broken

but thats exclusive to lv1 bastion or lv1 wingman

[placid bloom]

I rarely see Vesti kill with 4th shot pre-burst tbh

it only happens if you stick unprotected wind p1-3

[gritty ridge]

I happen to have a core max vesti team in my spa

So I get to throw teams at it

[rich ledge]

30 ammo gives 3 stacks of scarlet skill 1 so that's optimal

[eager mountain]

rocket whiff sabotages enemy team gen completely lol

[gritty ridge]

I need them to make a better team tho

[rich ledge]

I'm sure tomorrow the guy will have a new defense cook that I need to break sigh

[rich ledge]

They need to have bay burst instead of biscuit just wrong positioning

[gritty ridge]

Cindy would still counter here

So would 2rl scar

[eager mountain]

lol rapun didnt event went under 30%, and yet that team lose with alice... wtf

[rich ledge]

Yea i don't get it is it some slight burst gen thing? I did switch my helm resilience to adjutant for the recent battle

My helm has 15.57 CS

[eager mountain]

helm cs wont change a thing

[rich ledge]

then its just helm didnt hit enough?

you can see scarlet didnt immediately die after getting hit by helm

[eager mountain]

so siren didnt target switch until she hits 50th shot... she didnt target switch even tho scar started reload few bullets time before 50th shot... the whiff window is insanely high

[eager mountain]

it doesnt matter, the only way alice lose should be rapun stun

[rich ledge]

but next time i fight i should stick with soda though right? its not safe to change to alice again haha

[eager mountain]

i donno how alice lose there, and ur boda team isnt safe either

[tardy bone]

What is the best team for vestí in pvp?

[glad glade]

Jackal/Vesti/Blanc/ClipRL/ClipRL. I think at least

[rich ledge]

im doing like jackal vesti blanc helm trina

[eager mountain]

wasting trina there

[gritty ridge]

How is vesti noah btw

I wanna replace cindy

[crystal flicker]

She wants buffer

The whole reason of why Blanc/RH is mandatory

[rich ledge]

he didnt ask pvp for rookie or SP

[rich ledge]

vesti kind of wants blanc because she has good dmg during burst. if you are sure the enemy only has damage on burst skill a noah is ok

[gritty ridge]

Well blanc is taken by bready for me so I wanted to look into other options

[crystal flicker]

What are you doing with Bready in PvP

[gritty ridge]

Pioneering

[rich ledge]

then replace bready team with vesti team and keep cindy instead of looking to replace cindy

[eager mountain]

rookie wise ye ig its solid enough
just in general its spa context for forming team, or even ca over rookie

[gritty ridge]

No I hate cindy

And bready stays

I hate cindy for personal reasons, not character design or anything lore related

She ate 60 rocks on one piece to still be bricked

[eager mountain]

[rich ledge]

haha if waifu over meta then just replace cindy with vesti then 💁‍♂️

[gritty ridge]

Bready works pretty good indom

[crystal flicker]

She's distributed

[gritty ridge]

Yes

And she hits very hard

[rich ledge]

she is a worse SBS haha

[gritty ridge]

Sbs is lame

Only distributed every 3 shots

[little oak]

does this team work, these are my other teams,

and my anis doesnt have ol does she need it or levelled gear

[thin abyss]

Guys, is that the normal interaction of Bay against Scarlet? I mean the cover taking all of Scarlett's burst damage
There is no one with the same composition that has my level, so I don't know if it's due to a deficit

[crystal flicker]

OL is mandatory for cp pad

[gritty ridge]

Yes

Bay could stop quadruple buff scarlet at 99% deficit

[thin abyss]

Cool, now I can free Noah from that team

[elfin mesa]

i need to evaluate my team options i just changed pvp groups and im surrouned by a ton of whales

[fast jetty]

hmm really thought my noah cindy would counter their blanc cindy..

maybe use noah sbs instead

also 3RL to match speed

[elfin mesa]

here is everything i have currently, now im starting to invest in biscuit and jackal but i fear its not enough

[thin abyss]

Biscuit and Jackal only need 4/4/4

[lavish shore]

na 101010

[thin abyss]

Why

[unique mountain]

Oui

[ivory violet]

No one beats me 15 times in a row and keeps 1st place.

Finally dethroned the whale in my SP Arena bracket

[near plank]

this should win right

[gritty ridge]

No and no

[coarse lake]

yes and yes, for defense

[crystal flicker]

And you still don't have Tokino Soda

[coarse lake]

[near plank]

then what teams

[crystal flicker]

Are you sure it's whales and not try hard player

Can easily get like 10-20 advantage if you're tryhard from the start

[dire root]

Hmmmmm, I guess I don't understand Cindy that well.

Ok. so first part of the skill does nothing here.

the 10 attacks are the 10 lasers right?

All of those happened during noah's immunity.

how ever as soon as the immunity ended my entire team died all at once, so did the 2nd part of the skill trigger? And kill everyone.

[covert lintel]

Now hoboman is not participating in the CA, there's no one stopping fahren

[carmine fable]

Who can I sub in for Emilia for this pvp team?

[grand plaza]

İt's hard to see what happened with just ss

[dire root]

Yeah I guess so, I don't understand how jackal and cindy wiped my team like that.

instantly

like less then a second.

Cindy's 10 burst lasers were blocked and almost their entire team was dead

Does Cindy just AOE everyone for her entire burst?

Even after the lasers

[grand plaza]

No, what you asked above is basically more damage per laser and it's not happening in pvp anyway. It needs to ramp up.

[ivory violet]

She's there for burst gen so like centi, anis, helm, jackal, rumani etc

even xmaiden or a pump shotgun would prob work

[dire root]

If I fight that team again I will record I guess

[grand plaza]

I would use GPU's background recorder, you just save when you need to

But prefer something that records to Ram instead of SSD

[crystal flicker]

Jackal linked

[shell hazel]

took vesti on her first campaign mission

[grand plaza]

Why are you making me suffer

[shell hazel]

[grand plaza]

I have neither B3 from that image

[shell hazel]

rapi is a human right unit at this point 😒

you can run without vesti certainly

but rapi seems too good

did you start after rapi banner?

[grand plaza]

Little before, but spending all my gems for her wasn't enough

Not enough mileage as well :/

[shell hazel]

she'll appear when you least expect it

[glad meteor]

Worst comes to worst

She’ll rerun on new years

But its going to be another new pilgrim banner coming too.

[hollow lagoon]

Lel tru dmg op in deficit

[grand plaza]

Well, I currently have about 600 mileage (gems/pulls included), if I can get 200 more I will cover all pilgrims until that.

Unless.. they make another Sdoro for Winter

[hollow lagoon]

Umm no

Prob 2 pilgrim on anni and 1 new one on new years

Thing is u gonna have limited sanis coming up

Man bunny ade tho

[grand plaza]

I can pull her no problem, but as I said I just can't be sure about another limited pilgrim for winter etc. Or idk maybe double new year etc...

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna be a rough one

Bunnys resident evil and sanis

But after sanis ill be not behind on them limited unit anymore

[umbral crown]

But emilia

[hollow lagoon]

Don need if I’ll never see one in arena

[umbral crown]

We gonna trust SU next year

I need her gacha skin

[hollow lagoon]

I hate pulling collab units

No real lore and I end up never using them

[obsidian tangle]

how to beat this?

[fathom rock]

2rl noah biscuit team with siren in it

Siren not in p1 or p2

[vapid lake]

can try to kill this with iron shotgun and laplaceT so noise dies before they can burst
or rosanna to kill helm and vesti

[fathom rock]

That noise is p5 btw

[obsidian tangle]

yes it's reverted

[vapid lake]

? oh it's in game

[fathom rock]

It is still sg bruteforce able but I don't like the odds

Something with sanis and drakeT that have ele probably win this too

[vapid lake]

this comp is so weird what, they want emi to die or get indom

[obsidian tangle]

yeah usually vesti gets the imortality from blanc

and blasts me

[fathom rock]

Route 1 : 5 shotgun, sanis and drake not in p1 or p2 goal kill blanc before burst
Route 2 : siren mess up their indom so you can use 2rl noah biscuit to tank then fight back
Route 3 : do a slightly slower or same speed indom with a more fire rate b3
Route 4 : rosa

[obsidian tangle]

won't Siren and shotguns just target noise?

[fathom rock]

Only if they p1 or p2

[obsidian tangle]

because of the taunt

[fathom rock]

If they p3+ and no target skip they won't be taunted

[obsidian tangle]

oh it's single target taunt ok

[vapid lake]

who can 2rl with noah biscuit and siren tho, only emilia

[obsidian tangle]

what about this? is there a sure way to counter this team?

[fathom rock]

Can replace vesti for clip that's an option

[fathom rock]

Route 1 : 2rl indom with jackal p1 so that siren don't ruin it, indom will go to lowest hp in the link
Route 2 : 2rl noah with 11cs across your team
Route 3 : Rosa kill scar before burst if 2rl
Route 4 : 2rl bay that is not in p1

[obsidian tangle]

won't sire just stun emilia tho?

[fathom rock]

If stun emilia :
Indom go to emi, vesti burst her burst blocked by noah so easy killing indom non burst emi

If stun blanc cuz emi dead :
Ggs you win

[obsidian tangle]

what happens is that emilia dies before burst

and vesti gets indom and i die

[fathom rock]

If emi die blanc eat stun and that's a free win cuz they can't burst

[obsidian tangle]

alright i'll try that 🙂

[fathom rock]

The odds of this failing is them having like 25cs emi and she fire 3 shot before death I think

[glad meteor]

As long as link doesn’t die to vesti

[obsidian tangle]

something like this?

[fathom rock]

Should do, emi b3 run a small risk of blanc and vesti surviving stun duration?

Noah biscuit helm all going for noise

[obsidian tangle]

regarding team 2 here, what do you mean by 11cs?

[fathom rock]

11 charge speed

What's their 3rd team curios

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[obsidian tangle]

also inverted (in-game)

this one I got with my indom team, maybe i'm wasting it here dunno

the other 2 I sent the exactly same scarlet siren agaisn't him mirror match with 60k more cp and lost 🫠

and the vesti team i sent noah biscuit 2rl

[fathom rock]

So you facing
Emi/blanc/vesti/helmt/noise
Scar/trina/siren/centi/jack
Cindy/noah/rapunzel/biscuit/rumani

[obsidian tangle]

yes

[fathom rock]

P1 cindy

[obsidian tangle]

I pretty much have every nikke except the new trio (pvp-wise)

so feel free to recommend anything

[raven plover]

scar trina redhood it?

oh spa

[fathom rock]

Against emi : noah/biscuit/vestiTU/helmt/siren
Against scar : jackal/sbs/blanc/xmaid/rumani make sure sbs lower hp than other 2 links
Against cindy : scar/trina/rh/centi/more buff or cp literally anything work here

P1 cindy makes trina centi scar alone like reach 2rl

Oh no vesti?

[obsidian tangle]

yeah no vesti 😐

[fathom rock]

Against emi go with
bunny soda/naga or sgb3 with invest /siren/drakeT/sanis or mpriv

You are obligated to record the fight

Deep fried blanc

[obsidian tangle]

will do it after reset

[tulip quest]

SPA or rookie?

[obsidian tangle]

spa

[tulip quest]

Not sure if it works

Man that Vesti I dunno if it has Element high % or attack%

Haven't tested vs Vesti comps my SPA is lazy

they can take rank 1 but they just don't attack me at all

[obsidian tangle]

xmaid is ice rose right?

[tulip quest]

Yes

[tulip quest]

K nevermind my cook I leave it to the boiss your opponent has some weird comps

would be fun to experiment vs it

[fathom rock]

Yes

[obsidian tangle]

the blanc sbs team is 3rl right? is that ok agaisn't scar team?

[fathom rock]

Siren + scar proc jackal enough to 2rl

[obsidian tangle]

i see

as for the SG team this is what I'm going with

it's my highest cp team lol

by a lot

[fathom rock]

Swap mpriv and sanis if gonna run both

Ofc make sure other 2 teams within 15% of enemy cp

[obsidian tangle]

it's 140k cp over his vesti team

[fathom rock]

Brother might put him in deficit

[obsidian tangle]

I'll try it later after reset and record it for you guys 😄

thanks for the help

[fathom rock]

[near plank]

how to beat these teams?

[keen vapor]

Well, someone wants to be the most annoying person on PVP

[near plank]

he changes teams every time i beat it

so im just recording all his team configs

[keen vapor]

Something something Moran Bay helm against Scarlet team

And 2 RL Noah Emilia team

[near plank]

i dont have moran

[keen vapor]

That guy is insane

[near plank]

literally look at my post history

what other team beats the scar team

without moran

[keen vapor]

Well, try with noise helm Bay Rumani Laplace then

Not Noah, she will taunt stun

[near plank]

laplace not treasure

bay no ol but should still be within cp

[keen vapor]

Ice Maiden

2 RL Noah Emilia against Helm team

[near plank]

what specific 2 rl emilia

[keen vapor]

can your Noah tank against him without Biscuit?

Nvm
Emilia/Noah/RH/Centi/Jackal

[near plank]

our cp simmilar units dont die before burst

someone told me just tank the helm burst then revive

[keen vapor]

If you don't trust your Emilia...

[near plank]

which one is more reliable

didnt really invest in emilia much

[keen vapor]

I wouldn't do that with Rapi when they can lifesteal back

Sounds reasonable with Summer Anis tho but is doubtful wether or not Helm will still target DPS or not

[keen vapor]

Only one attack line..... Right...

Same level range.... Yeah, try Rapi

I mostly fight underleveled you know

Happy CA results 🎉

[near plank]

do you have any def team suggestions?

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

It'll be interesting if you copy def and he can't beat it

[near plank]

he has investment in all pvp nikke

i dont

[swift mango]

How's yours?

[keen vapor]

I WON I'M OUT OF LEAGUE

Lmao, Emilia team keeps failing, every time

[swift mango]

Darn friendly fire. At least I know for sure who won my SpA C4 war.

[swift mango]

🎉

[near plank]

does rapunzel burst right after helm here?

[keen vapor]

Cook me another Noah Emilia team

[keen vapor]

Should be 3 RL..... Uuuuhhhhhh maybe

[swift mango]

Noah+Bay+Miranda+Emi+Helm.

Auto lose to Rossanna though

[keen vapor]

Looks more like same timing to me

[near plank]

[fathom rock]

Toiky back for round 2 I see where enemy teams

[near plank]

round 2 for you but its been multiple runs already

[keen vapor]

Helm's on Summer Anis team guess I must change that team as well

[near plank]

.

[fathom rock]

[near plank]

most annoying person in CA

[keen vapor]

How's your madman called?

[near plank]

i can only annoy him more by hitting him before reset