pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

only quantum on jackal and trina

[gritty ridge]

2.5rl

[tropic summit]

hmmmm

purple doll siren tho that's a pain

best would be to just outdps

[shell hazel]

let me give ros a cube at least

wait ros is missing lol

my scar will dodge siren stun

[tropic summit]

that's lethal probably on helmt, but i don't think it's gonna be lethal on vesti

[shell hazel]

one way to see

full send?

[tropic summit]

sec

try this

[shell hazel]

remember it's not trying to win necessarily it's sending for science

[swift mango]

Congrats more to come in this reshuffle then

[shell hazel]

still want me to send?

[tropic summit]

CA overrated so don't worry

[shell hazel]

what is red hood doing here? 😛

[oblique gyro]

hahaha

[shell hazel]

ros will b1

[tropic summit]

second rotation

assuming you live through it

[shell hazel]

you think we live to 2nd rotation?

[tropic summit]

dunno guess we'll find out

i don't have vesti full picture

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/science-knowledge-wow-gif-24458214

not deficit ✅

not win ✅

didn't get to 2nd rotation 😄

[gritty ridge]

Hippo would you mind running a 2rl sora blanc/noah bisc?

[shell hazel]

I don't have sora :p

[tropic summit]

vid?

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxo1ucsZyjY

[gritty ridge]

No sora, no mica, smh

[tropic summit]

cuz i wanted to see interaction with noah p4 from vesti

[shell hazel]

it's there 🙂

[tropic summit]

oh noice 🍿

yeah burst dmg is essentially like dealing with emilia

the interesting thing would be to try a 4RL noah biscuit

you still got attempts?

[shell hazel]

yeah slow cindy maybe also interesting

[gritty ridge]

Which do yall think will perform better in CA?

[shell hazel]

I have 1 left

4 losses 😄

[limber mulch]

hello :3 could anyone help me to beat this defense? i have -30 levels :c i tried whats in the picture and lost. also that same team is what i use to attack and in defense, is it okay?
theres a pic of my strongest nikkes~

[gritty ridge]

Big deficit

[tropic summit]

for science, you'll get stunned but it doesn't matter, 4RL

you can run vesti instead of SBS

can bypass them at least

[shell hazel]

yeah ok

[tropic summit]

let's see if the timing is the same for catching the nuke

[shell hazel]

alright I'll run in a mo

[tropic summit]

thanks hippo

[quartz rover]

ca

[gritty ridge]

Check in shooting range if scar is linked

[shell hazel]

this would probably win I think - siren stun noah and my own noah blocks vesti should be gg

[tropic summit]

yes and no, let's see the timing

[shell hazel]

this one I mean - if I ran it, which I'm not, I'm running your one :p

[tropic summit]

i think you need to be 1RL slower

ah you mean to disable their noah yeah

that's likely a win

[shell hazel]

ye

[swift mango]

Indom from slow charge really ass against Siren. My Indom Emi couldn't even fire her big charge at all when attacking siren

[tropic summit]

oke let's see the timing

[shell hazel]

haha doomed

[gritty ridge]

Same thing with bready, if siren stuns with biscuit burst i dont have enough time to get the 3 shots off to kill

[swift mango]

It's better to just p1 Emi against Siren tbh... So similar to Vesti. Better just put her p1.

[tropic summit]

vid for le timings 🍿

[shell hazel]

sending now

stuff died noah stunned RH B1 crown B2 lol

[gritty ridge]

Id like to test against vesti but nobody in my bracket runs her

[glad meteor]

Noise jackal cindy noah siren is what I think i would use

[tropic summit]

should be a matter of time

[dim escarp]

same

[gritty ridge]

Im still in baby bracket where 9/10 players dont know hwat they're doing tho

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrbuXjJqPIw

incredibly dead but here's the science

[gritty ridge]

Specifically i wanna test my bready indom against vesti

[quartz rover]

cooking up something while I wait for people to copy my defense in rookie

[shell hazel]

5RL cindy mihara sac might win

[tropic summit]

ah interesting, the first part of the nuke is already lethal

this is ironically better than emilia

[vapid lake]

ysteri getting fed well today

[shell hazel]

yes 😄

enjoy your food @oblique gyro

[tropic summit]

the best part is that it's nearly unbuffed

since it's a siren B1

lots of potential on def to be annoying, tasty

[vapid lake]

this is exactly the reason why i removed my vesti def after one day, i don't want to let people experiment

[shell hazel]

yeah I imagine keripo emi rh ver is incredibly lethal

[vapid lake]

and learn

[glad meteor]

Vesti with atk buff is monster

[tropic summit]

3 videos and i already learned a ton

good stuff hippo, thank you

[shell hazel]

np, and thanks to @oblique gyro and @dim escarp for not minding me spamming random attacks (to my loss lol)

[tropic summit]

2RL buffed venti for skip
2.5RL buffless venti to make opponent waste 2RL noah
2RL indom single buff venti for forcing opponent to actually deal with it

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/venti-genshin-impact-venti-smug-gif-26323074

[shell hazel]

it's a good def I think can see why it would beat many

[tropic summit]

it's a bit expensive to deal against

[shell hazel]

sora b1 could make it more annoying for the anti-noah stun

[tropic summit]

as it's essentially a mix of emilia and scarlet threat

being multihit probably eats through bay

[vapid lake]

u'd never see this in sp or ca so it's kinda ok to leave it like that i guess

[shell hazel]

yes

[vapid lake]

i was running the exact same team in both sp and rookie so i had to remove after a day, there were still some annoying people in the same bracket that didnt get removed by the shuffle

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't recommend it

same team in both

[gritty ridge]

Ima try this out, maybe beeady stun early will let me win

[limber mulch]

linked to what? im sorry im pretty new tbh ;w;

[shell hazel]

all 5 videos in one post (i'll remove the embeds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZ0mld9kHU (moran, noah, helmt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRq5TkVeb0 (vesti indom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwTxKL8QgqY (rapi indom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxo1ucsZyjY (rosanna helmt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrbuXjJqPIw (4rl vesti)

[gritty ridge]

Put that team in union shooting range, then pause and screenshot the pause screen

[glad meteor]

Only 1 b3 so won’t mis burst

[limber mulch]

here :3

[glad meteor]

Send vid though. Want to see bready

[gritty ridge]

This team

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna, one sec

[wind kelp]

Welp, got 4th still, so i guess if you need next round, you do what you gotta do :p

[gritty ridge]

Not what I expected to happen

[wind kelp]

I only got to Sparena this time cause i was 5th all season :p

[glad meteor]

Scalter bug knocked her down enough

[gritty ridge]

The nefarious trina indom

[limber mulch]

hereeee c:

[gritty ridge]

Yup youre good, put your highest level cubes on that team and run it

[gritty ridge]

I abused the jackal bug a bit but just to get to 3rl

[glad meteor]

Bready indom is real

[gritty ridge]

Yeah it works pretty good

She hits alot harder than you'd expect

[glad meteor]

Yeah

Is bready dist damage doubled

[gritty ridge]

I do not believe so

[shell hazel]

bready indom let's go

[gritty ridge]

The only skill shed have that would double is her self dmg buff on hit

And I dont think it can actually double

[limber mulch]

omggggg, they exploded, thank you very much!!!! you're a hero fr
should i use this team too as my defense now? im sorry to bother :c

[glad meteor]

Was because i saw this but prob no

[gritty ridge]

You can, its risky

Shes also water dps so that means with enough ele she'll probably 1 shot vesti

Assuming no noah/indom

[shell hazel]

anti vesti!

[gritty ridge]

Like i said, I wanna be able to test against vesti

[shell hazel]

someone will probably run her soon

your problem is surviving, because vesti arrives a bit after 2RL lol

[gritty ridge]

Is she slow enough for 2.5rl indom to activate?

[shell hazel]

yeah seems so, mine worked but you have to be careful

[umbral belfry]

bigboi did u make ca

[shell hazel]

watch my 2 indom vids in the 5 above

[umbral belfry]

i have failed u im sorry

[shell hazel]

was close

[gritty ridge]

youre all good hime

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

You showed me how to beat kalin

[shell hazel]

Hime watch my vesti science #pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

in return if i see any one of them in pools / starting top 64 i'll bite their ankles for u

[gritty ridge]

This is so dubious tho

[oblique gyro]

i was joking about not hit me

[umbral belfry]

4rl vesti

[gritty ridge]

Thank you hime

[oblique gyro]

do as you please

[quartz rover]

[shell hazel]

nah all good, I was just shedding points for science anyway 😄

[gritty ridge]

Congrats

[shell hazel]

and you got some good videos to see hopefully

[umbral belfry]

i don't remember if i skipped that or not. i don't think i did

[oblique gyro]

i love vesti, i'll invest some teams around her

[umbral belfry]

but you might be too cp-gapped now

[quartz rover]

the shuffle was beneficial, only two people could beat me

[gritty ridge]

No it won

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Thats the one you hit

[shell hazel]

yeah she's my kind of unit, all firepower - my vesti needs a lot of work

[umbral belfry]

nice

[gritty ridge]

Other one is somewhat a competent team

[umbral belfry]

link up with me in ca, just wanna say hi

[quartz rover]

make sure to toss onlu srs

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

what even is this lol

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

hit rate

[glad meteor]

I’m in ca

[shell hazel]

yeah... I will see what to roll when my last piece is OL

line 1 def gotta go

3rd line CS is good I can work with that

[umbral belfry]

k's back

[glad meteor]

One time cook with mid invest pvp units

And no scar

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[shell hazel]

lock in

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-typing-typing-cat-homework-time-gif-14855369

@proven mauve

[vapid lake]

Still scarless? 🤝

[umbral belfry]

wrong hippo

[gritty ridge]

Just run bready smh

[shell hazel]

might be wrong hippo 😄

[gritty ridge]

i wonder if I pump enough cs% onto bready if I can run her with noah

She takes 2-3 shots to wipe a team

[glad meteor]

Bready is continual dps. Works with noah or blanc, bay is cope

[gritty ridge]

Nero moran bready

[jagged sedge]

thats a lot of gems

[gritty ridge]

This would just mean dead noah me thinks

[jagged sedge]

How is the new Vesti? People are saying shes op

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

ty, but will be hard to get top4 in deficit, heavy stats penalty against some whales in my bracket, at least i can try once

[lone sequoia]

bready p1

[gritty ridge]

But then wouldnt that feed when noah taunts,m

[lone sequoia]

it was a joke

if you have the cs, probably rumani version is better, i don't know the dmg in your bracket and is hard for noah to tank p1

[gritty ridge]

I was just looking into options tbh, im probably gonna stick with bready indom

Who should get my purple doll

[lone sequoia]

RLs? depends on the units you use

something like... vesti* (dps) noise(support) bay(treasure), rapu (DR team), noah (more time with biscuit s2)

trina, jackal, rumani are more about the cp deficit for your teams or the positions, rumani for DoT teams need SR15

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i have alot of good options

[tropic summit]

emilia kind of threat, but better arguably

works for both def and atk, decent until nerfed

[tropic summit]

your sacrifice was worth it

[tropic summit]

SBS hits lowest def with her skill pre burst, it can fk up indoms, in your case it hits trina

and since you keep not investing in your utilities, it is even easier to happen

[gritty ridge]

Wdym "keep"

Im actively putting resources towards them rn

[tropic summit]

and yet that team is running under invested trina

[gritty ridge]

I just have no rocks for her

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Im stuck on the last wall in campaign rn

After this its smooth sailing til ch 40

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[gritty ridge]

Im in clear range I just gotta mald

Im trying to put myself in a spot where I passively level faster than my bracket

[tropic summit]

i'll teach you the secret to nikke

spend more, so that you can play the game less and everything is granted

win/win

-you waste less time on the game
-everything is faster, so you have time to play better games

[raven plover]

[gritty ridge]

[fast jetty]

🫡 rip

[tropic summit]

ironically the ultimate troll move of SU

-a game mode that does not punish based on CP
-accessible only by those that meet, for the most part, the CP requirement

[umbral crown]

[fast jetty]

out of the top 4, 2 of them are braindead CP team 💀

i think it is more of my defense notdoing good enough,m losing to some rank 6-8 and lost my points

[swift mango]

Put endurance cube on her next time.

[grand plaza]

Oh no not in this sync

[terse abyss]

my league has a guy who spent like 500 gems at least to take my #1 spot

same guy who hit me like 20 times in a day in rookie arena too smh

at one point i thought it was the free tickets they gave out months ago but he basically just keeps doing it

[grand plaza]

[swift mango]

Probably just use you as target practice for ca

[pure moss]

I'm thinking blanc biscuit vesti (instead of bscar) rumani maiden 3 RL. What do you think?

[mystic rain]

mihara blanc biscuit scarlet rumani

wait is that 4RL

oh it is 4RL

[quartz rover]

I hope you guys get me in CA cause I'm just putting random teams

[pure moss]

which bracket are you in?

[quartz rover]

idk yet

[pure moss]

Frontier or Mid tier or Regular tier?

[quartz rover]

HUH?

[pure moss]

Frontier is like Keripo's bracket

Mid tier is 3.2m to 4.1m bp

[quartz rover]

the lukewarm milk one

[pure moss]

the rest is regular tier

[quartz rover]

Probably just regular

[pure moss]

sadge, I'm in >3.2m

[quartz rover]

Are the people you're able to cheer for your ca bracket?

[pure moss]

if you're in that bracket yes

[quartz rover]

Idk if im in that bracket

[pure moss]

I mean if you participate in a bracket, you can cheer for that bracket

I can't cheer for people in Keripo's bracket

[umbral belfry]

we're in the 2nd lowest bracket trash

[pure moss]

I wouldn't say trash

[umbral belfry]

no i meant trash bc his name is trash doves LOL 😭

[pure moss]

[tulip quest]

I Found a weird bug where Noah JUST HITS Red hood whatever pos I put her

Pos 3 Noah hits her, Post 4 Noah hits her, does she hates RH That much?

Only she behaves abnormally vs RH other Nikke RL just hits P1

[undone stratus]

How can I beat this team? The power difference is 200k.

[tulip quest]

Noah Biscuit comp

[chilly furnace]

Use ur scar team

[tulip quest]

Is this SPA or Rookie?

[undone stratus]

rookie

[tulip quest]

you can try this

[gritty ridge]

Chat if im in keripo's CA grouping but im only sync 141 can I win

[tulip quest]

nope

[gritty ridge]

Why biscuit with jackal

[tulip quest]

the rock investments and CORE7 Max

[tulip quest]

Rookie can use all in 1 team

in SPA can't

[gritty ridge]

I mean yeah, but 1 theres no jackal feed on that team happening, and 2 biscuit loses both her invuls very fast with jackal

The team you suggested i think loses anyway, noah stunned and sbs doesnt nuke

<@&946725432554836008>

[gritty ridge]

You'll wipe before they burst

[tulip quest]

oh it lose

[undone stratus]

scar brust No one died.

[tulip quest]

... my bad man

[undone stratus]

scar 0 ⭐

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, one sec

[tulip quest]

so scar 1 works?

[gritty ridge]

Whats your scar overloads

[gritty ridge]

If it wasnt deficit, that would've cleared. It gets promoted to 1rl from feed

[tulip quest]

Yea but I didn't suggested scar cause he was Deficited

and Noise + Deficit = no wipe

[gritty ridge]

Depending on his overloads her can run double buff

[gritty ridge]

Nvrmind

Too much ammo

[tulip quest]

Thats good actually

the attack %

[gritty ridge]

Atk% is good, but the ammo is too high to run p1 against siren

[umbral belfry]

he'd want jack p1 bc noah is stunned by siren

[gritty ridge]

How much health did they have after scar burst

Hi hime

[umbral belfry]

but 200k difference sounds like potential cp deficit either way

[gritty ridge]

Hime with p2 cindy and double jackal feed how fast do you think this is

Needs 1rl to burst before stun

[tulip quest]

Wait Siren stuns 2RL?

[umbral belfry]

depends on the rest of the team. not 100% if you'd reach 1rl if p2 cindy though

[umbral belfry]

stuns b2 2rl yes. not b1

[tulip quest]

WAS Gonna suggest this time

[tulip quest]

Alright

[umbral belfry]

b2 2rl can only dodge stun pre-burst if all of the rls have 11 cs+

[tulip quest]

Noted

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Ideally youd want clip rl as gen here rather than helm

You get 25% more gen from cindy in p2

[umbral belfry]

most likely jack sbs blanc lap helm would win

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i was thinking abt indom

[umbral belfry]

this team is also fine but if their scar has more than 32 ammo she's stunned

[gritty ridge]

She does, 130% ammo

[tulip quest]

im confused with the ammo thingy

[gritty ridge]

Scar with 32 ammo or less will reload when siren would stun her

[umbral belfry]

<@&946725432554836008>

[gritty ridge]

Back to back

[tulip quest]

oh okay

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-lay-his-soul-to-rest-mods-lowtiergod-low-tier-god-lay-his-soul-to-rest-gif-7538084563916736570

[undone stratus]

Thank you. I'll try it tomorrow.

[gritty ridge]

Thats why im enjoying my 0 ammo scar rn

[umbral belfry]

gl

[gritty ridge]

Shes so safe in p1

[umbral belfry]

same

[gritty ridge]

Only soda or Rosanna may disturb her

[tulip quest]

Yea shotgun wrecks her in some match ups

[gritty ridge]

Rosanna is just scary when youre running attackers as dps

Cindy and sanis safe

[acoustic light]

r they gonna fix the double proc bugs by CA or are they now a feature

[ivory violet]

yea that shxt is mad annoying

[gritty ridge]

Wym, seasonal buff

[peak jungle]

I have a question need to understand

how actually does Bay work?
I just know she can block nuke, but dunno how it work
and I usually use her with Moran, idk is Moran blocking the nuke or Bay

[gritty ridge]

When bay bursts she shares her cover with the whole team acting as a shield

It works against big single hit nukes like scarlet and helm but falls short with multihit bursts like sbs

If you time her right she can catch cindy but its a bit finnicky

[peak jungle]

Does the damage that team takes, goes into her cover first?

or it’s like goes into cover+hole team hp?

[coarse lake]

it's.... complicated

seems like kuwon is explaining it

[placid bloom]

the team shares the damage to Bay and Bay shares that damage with her cover. It's calculated at the same time so any overkill damage only hits the cover.

[glad glade]

Fixing pvp? Lol. Lmao even

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-legs-macho-li'l-gif-8098075115180883333

[glad glade]

I haven’t seen that cat in a long, long time

[gritty ridge]

Lil macho legs goes hard

[glad glade]

Ikr. Especially against starred aliens

[gritty ridge]

Yippee barrier breaker

[glad glade]

Lil DK is better thou

That miniwave goes HARD

[peak jungle]

Oh noice, thx

[gritty ridge]

Lil king dragon is great yeah

I used lil eraser for quite a while until my normal eraser caught up

[glad glade]

Ooof, that must be rough. Its so slow and getting the dupes is so s l o w

Where are you at in your progress?

[gritty ridge]

Start of zero legends

[glad glade]

That poor thing is not going to survive 3 Star UL

[gritty ridge]

But 4* on the other hand

[glad glade]

At that level? Might as well be a wet paper

Unless if the new brutal units make up for its fragility. Idk I’ve been at an “indefinite hiatus” for more than a year

[gritty ridge]

Believe in the bahablast carry

[glad glade]

Christ I can’t believe they threw that in the game

Its like having a Treasure where RH could B1 multiple times

[gritty ridge]

They revived a powercrept unit a little too well

[glad glade]

Tell me about it

Speaking of powercreep, how is the state of Ubers there? Any utterly broken ones like Yukimura or Dasli?

[gritty ridge]

Phono twins

Are ridiculous

[glad glade]

Oh right I was still there when they were released. Still a staple in my team

Its like they gave Aphro crack. What were they thinking?

[gritty ridge]

D.phono is basically surge immune mitama

[glad glade]

I stopped around the time when they released that buddhist Uberfest

[glad glade]

True true true. With the range of Cyberpunk

[sinful sapphire]

SodaBunny,Drake,AnneFairy,Rosanna,Noir or Noise,Noah,Cinderella,Helm,Rumani or Scarlet,Trina,Siren,Centi,Laplace

[gritty ridge]

Did you get to experience ultra cosmo?

[glad glade]

Have the silly little goober right here. I imagine he’s still top 5 amongst the uber population

Show me your cat officer’s card bro

[gritty ridge]

I have taken quite a few breaks, but ive been playing for like 12 years

[glad glade]

Beautiful. You’re almost day 1 too. I’m a 6 year veteran, but I used to pour my life and soul into that

[gritty ridge]

The game feels alot more forgiving now than it used to, I remember having to reroll my account for hours to get 1 uber

[glad glade]

Thats grim. I seed tracked all my ubers

[gritty ridge]

I come from before that was even an option

[valid inlet]

Would love to hear what do you guys think about this comps. Given that the stall team is becoming less relevant, I was thinking about an alternative comps and then saw this. I tested it with a well built Jackal Cindy meta and found it interesting.

Theoretically all teams can beat stall. My absolute team is still inferior at the moment so the record of the team is less indicative. It’s aimed to be a RL version of SG team, would be unstable for sure

[glad glade]

Good times. Its a shame the energy system is utter garbage. Otherwise I might have kept up with it more

[gritty ridge]

Team 5 is a bit too slow, throw some quantums on there

Team 4 is risky, lots of counters to helm nuke floating around

[glad glade]

I personally think poli should be placed at the back since her shield will serve as RL feed

[gritty ridge]

4.5rl sac mihara is risky as well

[valid inlet]

Yeah the the dmg will come from RH second burst

[gritty ridge]

T1 Emma is gonna feed your opponents by alot

Perma taunt so youre giving enemy rl 3 targets

[valid inlet]

Kinda agree I’m still thinking where to put Poli that’s best

[glad glade]

P5 easily. If you face defending SG, they’re screwed big time

[valid inlet]

For this team, the defender will definitely get indom and let the dead mihara perform tho

[glad glade]

I’m curious about this too. Siren or a Cindy team could counter this correct? Or does indom need to be involved?

It looks to be a pretty damn powerful team

[gritty ridge]

If it encounters scar, especially right now, mihara can die too fast and not apply her DoT

Its one of the most gamba teams

[glad glade]

Oh right, the double bug kek

[umbral belfry]

wrong

siren will stun blanc, yes. but that team is so slow that siren's stun is basically null. blanc will still get indom off

it being so slow is basically a benefit.

and nothing survives blanc + cindy

at most nero on a stall team, but she'll basically die at the end

[glad glade]

Thought so. Plus biscuit should allow at least blanc and one other RL to survive

Or at least it should.

[umbral belfry]

the only way that team fails is if rumani dies early to not allow blanc to burst

[glad glade]

Right. Only way that happens is if you wipe biscuit out first before she casts that invulnerability

So how does that team avoid that possibility?

[umbral belfry]

it's near impossible to make bisc not get her immune off on blanc + rumani/cindy

at most it's scar but rumani has a possibility to live and then immune. if that happens it's gg

[glad glade]

Not to mention that mihara is basically poison to a scar comp

So in other words, under normal circumstances, this team is top tier. However….

[umbral belfry]

a lot of people underestimate that team when it's argubably one of the strongest in ca assuming everything goes right

[glad glade]

Tell me about it. I’ve seen Merry’s video on the thing from weeks ago. Its pretty nasty

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

oh no ppl are finding out

[glad glade]

Too bad the double bug is a thing now

[umbral belfry]

t1: i wouldn't for ca but i see what you're going for
t2:
t3:
t4: a good team but wouldn't run for ca
t5: you best get poli out of p1

[glad glade]

My SPA/Rookie rival uses the Mihara comp. If you’re seeing this, hi BB

[coarse lake]

maybe I should run the vesti variant that beats that cindy comp, if it's getting this popular

[umbral belfry]

doesn't it beat vesti indom though

[worthy sorrel]

switching to counter meta before the meta even gets to be meta

[valid inlet]

Why you think t4 isn't good for CA?

[coarse lake]

indom vesti overrated lah

[glad glade]

I totally can’t wait to see this comp become cookie cutter in CA. Predictions are just going to be brutal. Or easier?

I still gotta get the gold frame

[valid inlet]

Yeah I think that vesti team do have potential to improve, or maybe with other units coming in the near future

[coarse lake]

current meta, predictions will be harder

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna get backsh*tted (don't mute me pls bot) if you fight a def sg mainly. and while it's tanky you're still weak to p1/p2 soda (mostly noah is assuming your moran can't tank scar)

[coarse lake]

crit rng, dot rn, invest diff

[umbral belfry]

can't deny that they're gonna be everywhere for the most part though

i'd rather do nero stall vs that moran noah comp but that's just me

[glad glade]

Anyways, whats a good counter to the Mihara comp other than Besti?

Still gotta kick my rival’s ass

[umbral belfry]

lots of heals

[glad glade]

So stall team? No, wait it would be too fast?

[coarse lake]

just don't kill mihara

[valid inlet]

Agree, it would be vulnerable to defense SG or sure

[umbral belfry]

basically heals to overlap the DoT but you also gotta find a way to kill off cindy before she you

[coarse lake]

literally that simple

[umbral belfry]

protect noise nana

[valid inlet]

I think the point of the team is that the RH will burst again soon and the stall won't be able to tank it

[umbral belfry]

iirc stall team loses to it but it heavily depends on rumani and cindy positions

[placid bloom]

it should just fold to 2RL RH Trina Scar no? Unless you are taking too long to proc Biscuit on Blanc and you actually burn to the DoT before invin wears off

[umbral belfry]

yeah i see what you're going for. i just think it's still a risky move in terms of ca. great for sp/rookie

[glad glade]

Only thing I can come up with single target bursters like Laplop or RH. But i can easily imagine a scenario where they would be walking into her. Not to mention biscuit is still around

[umbral belfry]

bc you can't control who you fight with that specific team

[coarse lake]

just... run a 5rl team of your own that has p1 defender with biscuit

minimal splash

[umbral belfry]

not always as seen on video but has the most chances

[glad glade]

Right but that’s too much of a problem in an area like CA

Oh right, i should have specified CA lol

[placid bloom]

well the entire point of CA is that you can get away with stuff that you can't get away with in SPA

[coarse lake]

then... there really isn't much of a problem except a specific vesti comp, or bad mihara rng, or enemy cindy crit

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

I wanna see mirror of that, gonna be hilarious

[placid bloom]

like there is 0 chance you can ever hold Def with SG team in SPA

[coarse lake]

indom mihara vs indom mihara

[umbral belfry]

imagine mihara's DoT doesn't pop on the other team and it does yours

[valid inlet]

the one without cs rolls win lol

[coarse lake]

that's the one issue with that specific variant, you rely on fighting aggressive comps

[umbral belfry]

pray cindy crits rumani so no indom

[coarse lake]

but the other variants have major issues against common aggressive ca comps

[glad glade]

Idk SG only sucks in SPA because it requires specialized units to counter it. Once you leave that up to fate, it becomes a monster. You don’t need much specialization or anything at all for a 5RL team

[valid inlet]

But think about it current stall team can't take defense sg neither, unless you put nero at p5. My stall was destroyed by a defense SG team too last season

[umbral belfry]

backsh*tted

[placid bloom]

technically now that we have BayT you can kick Rapu and put Moran p5

[umbral belfry]

BayT can survive sgs?

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

oh that's what you meant

no rapu though

[valid inlet]

hmmmm interesting

[placid bloom]

you can't do 2nd rotation

because 40s B1 only

but it's still 4 healer + Nero

so everyone has the same dmg reduc as before

[umbral belfry]

doesn't that just lose to traditional nero stall then

p sure i saw this fight in ca or another bracket ca

although idk how that fares vs nana's moran noah though

i assume moran noah would win vs that due to rh

[placid bloom]

I mean you can only either beat SG or beat the mirror, not both

[umbral belfry]

backshts, or no backshts

[placid bloom]

also the mirror you aren't even guaranteed to win normally, it's invest dependent

so if you lose the mirror to higher invest anyway might as well beat SG

[umbral belfry]

p sure nero stall will always win over nero bay but at least you're more likely to win vs sgs

[placid bloom]

I mean if you run standard and the other guy runs standard

[valid inlet]

Nero treasure when

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

and you just have less cores

you lose anyway

[umbral belfry]

outwhaled

[placid bloom]

so might as well pray you dodge the mirror and beat SG instead

[umbral belfry]

[valid inlet]

Would love to test it when I get BayT, but maybe 2 seasons after lol

[umbral crown]

It loses to normal nero team, also not having a 2nd rotation makes this comp more sus than it is

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's what i thought

[umbral crown]

Rapu is the core of nero team, as long as nero and rapu survives you have high chance to win

[umbral belfry]

[glad glade]

Watch as they try to make her PvE oriented

[placid bloom]

you're only really going 2 rotations in the mirror though, I guess it kinda matters if people are still doing Noah Biscuit

[umbral crown]

I have done 3

[valid inlet]

nooooooo

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[glad glade]

Worse than milk

[valid inlet]

Nero deserves a treasure and get back her pvp queen status

[umbral belfry]

wait

@placid bloom did you make ca?

[placid bloom]

ofc not

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

the guy in 4th checks game every hour and gems

[umbral belfry]

smelly gemmer

[glad glade]

Only way she’ll get queen status is if they give her jack link to everyone who heals her

[placid bloom]

maybe I will be back in 3 months, or maybe I will just stay PvE main forever

seems PvE main is easier

[umbral belfry]

phoric will avenge u

[glad glade]

The better choice. Considering the double bug and SU’s lack of response to it, it’s pretty tempting to abandon pvp altogether

[placid bloom]

where you at Hime

I only see one representative

[umbral belfry]

cup

i am no SR goon lemme sleep

[placid bloom]

you calling cup SR goon, that means you gonna meet in CA

[umbral belfry]

could've been this ca but

[glad glade]

There’s always a next time bro

[umbral belfry]

im just fishing for my shiny star for my frame don't mind me

[glad glade]

Me but for that pretty ziz frame

[placid bloom]

why you sus

[umbral belfry]

[glad glade]

Kinda based ngl

[hollow lagoon]

Bro that’s the good stuff man

The no star frame is good but at same time not as good

The single star frame just make it so much better and it’s a whileeeee before the next prettier frame

[placid bloom]

wait baby bracket already has 2 time winner

maybe this will be the first 30 time winner

farming weaklings

[umbral belfry]

to be fair that bracket is mostly bots but

[placid bloom]

you should make smurf and farm them

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

[hollow lagoon]

Hime u gotta believe

If I can do it so can u

[coarse lake]

make a few dozen accounts, do minimal progress on all, (unlocking ca), put 1 unit each team

although you still gotta be top in several different small servers, so gonna be hard

[vapid lake]

SEA is so fk~ed up that the baby bracket has people with emilia all the way till people who don't have sanis i know because i'm in it

[placid bloom]

just make another 10k alts and spawn new baby bracket

[vapid lake]

And im pretty sure it's not even full yet because there's still bots in group stages

[umbral belfry]

I will

[odd lantern]

the champ from two seasons ago in my bracket didn't make it out of group stage last season lol

CA is so chance-based anything can happen

[glad glade]

Champion Arena? More like the Casino Arena

[umbral crown]

She still has not, just rng when you face good sg comp, or blanc red hoos +a good dps team

But against anything else nero team wins

[swift mango]

Centi+Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+Noise

HelmT(or Emi or LapT that linked with Jackal)+Trina+scarlet+RH+Jackal

---

Cindy+Blanc+Midhara/RRH+Biscuit+Rumani

Whichever not deficit you.

[thin abyss]

I hope they add some features similar to the sim room overclock to make compositions matter more

[gritty ridge]

CA being gambling arena is the only reason I have a chance to win while using bready indom

[swift mango]

No you don't

[gritty ridge]

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

Its a good team

[glad glade]

Meanwhile here I am where I can’t dream of winning

[gritty ridge]

Have you tried dreaming harder

[glad glade]

Only when the day comes where I MLB Nero and Moran

[gritty ridge]

C7 you mean

[glad glade]

That’ll be the day when I reach top 50 in SR lmao

[gritty ridge]

I believe in you

I should be in baby bracket tho, my account is pretty new

[glad glade]

Which bracket are you in? Hime’s is the baby bracket iirc

[gritty ridge]

Hime's

[glad glade]

Oh really? Yeah that is the baby bracket, considering how many bots there are

[gritty ridge]

I get to pump all my resources into pvp now, yayy

15% cs on all my batteries

[glad glade]

Watch as a leviathan gets shuffled into your bracket and kicks you out of CA

It has happened before in my shard

[gritty ridge]

Im in a bracket with at least 5 heavy spenders

[glad glade]

Jesus christ

[gritty ridge]

Im just better at pvp

[glad glade]

Based

[gritty ridge]

And progression in general

[glad glade]

A fellow deficit malder?

[gritty ridge]

Theres only 1 person in my bracket past me on progression

[glad glade]

[gritty ridge]

And he's like 50 sync above me

[glad glade]

Ah Campaign progress right?

Thats grim

[gritty ridge]

Im a little short of the dps to clear, getting some ele lines on bready should push me over

[glad glade]

Jesus christ 32% deficit. I’m proud of you for even trying that

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry !
-# lewd!

[glad glade]

Black snake is a PoS. Its my most hated boss simply because of how horribly it is designed

[gritty ridge]

Im also one of the lowest clears on mc

[swift mango]

"Heavy spender" would just 60 level gap you. You don't just "better" than them.

[gritty ridge]

When they dump all their cp onto one team and leave 2 teams within hit range for me

[glad glade]

Absolutely beautiful. I’m slowly inching towards HM MC so I’m hoping for a 30%+ deficit

Unlikely but it would be funny

All on mobile btw

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

Some of the antics I do

[shell hazel]

bready or not 😄

[gritty ridge]

Me too

Im mobile only

[swift mango]

This is not 60 level gap.

[gritty ridge]

This one isnt, this is one of the lower spenders

But the 100k deficit is fun

[coarse lake]

at least you're dealing with ppl running pve teams

[glad glade]

A b s o l u t e l y beautiful. Fellow 40%+ mobile psych patient

[gritty ridge]

There does exist a nero moran in my top 3

[coarse lake]

dude isn't even that good of a pve cook now that I think about it

grave for alice sbs? maids for doro rapi? tf?

[gritty ridge]

At least i can understand why grave with alice

This is my newest whale, they got added with shuffle

[glad glade]

One CP team I understand. But two?

[gritty ridge]

Oh there's a 3rd

Miranda solos

[glad glade]

What is this team?

Bro burnt the kitchen

[gritty ridge]

Hes the newest in my bracket, ill show some of my other competition after it opens

[hexed cypress]

Guys how do i increase cp for my arena team? Like aside from max doll, and full ol

What ol lines should i get to increase cp the most

[gritty ridge]

Ele increases the most

But you should mainly be going for atk and then chargespeed on your rl/sr

[glad glade]

Ele raises OL lines the most. But rhe more optimal way is to fill as much lines as possible with as high of values as possible

[hexed cypress]

Thanks

[gritty ridge]

Cp pad lines only get you so far

[hexed cypress]

Like blue or black lines?

[glad glade]

Exactly. Blue lines means its near the highest. Black lines mean its the highest

Though its probably not the most optimal way to spend rocks, considering you want to roll that only when you have CS/atk/ele

[hexed cypress]

Hmm for other type char, which line should i aim for? Ele, atk, and crit damage maybe?

[hexed cypress]

Oke so atk cs and ele for sr/ rl char

[gritty ridge]

Atk is the best stat by far, because youll usually be neutral ele

[hexed cypress]

Thanks but how about other type char?

[glad glade]

Atk/Ele/Crit or ammo

[gritty ridge]

Then it would usually be ele, ammo, or crit rate

[shell hazel]

best to check something like prydwen for each unit

[glad glade]

Ammo depends on the unit though. Some units get bricked by ammo like sanis

[gritty ridge]

For pvp specifically scarlet wants low ammo

But for pve she wants as much as possible

[hexed cypress]

I dont think im using her for pvp much i wont get ammo i think

Hmm

Crit rate vs crit dame

Doesnt matter much right

[glad glade]

Crit sucks in this game so its a free for all

[hexed cypress]

Aight thanks yall 🙏

[gritty ridge]

Crit rate id say is a bit better, because crit dmg scales horribly

[glad glade]

I don’t think its worth sinking rocks to swap it out though. Cause that would take a ton of rocks to swap out

[gritty ridge]

Its not, but just in case someone has 1000 rocks to spend

[glad glade]

My RH’s double locked helmet needs ele on line 1, and 40+ rocks later it still hasn’t appeared

4 times hit rate instead 💀

[gritty ridge]

Ive dumped 60+ rocks into cindy

Guess her lines

[hexed cypress]

Lol 💀

[hexed cypress]

Oke

[glad glade]

2x ele, 1x atk, 3x ammo, and 3x CS because FU

[hexed cypress]

Oke

[glad glade]

Jesus christ thats grim

[hexed cypress]

Im just down too much cp compare to others player so even though i have most pvp char still lose to them lol

[glad glade]

At least you’re set on destroying MC anomaly once you reach sync 381

[gritty ridge]

It worked good enough for 15th lowest mc clear at least

Im probably the only low clear to kill it before phase 2

[glad glade]

Wait deadass?

So that means that an even higher deficit is possible

[shell hazel]

ooff that is a rough cindy lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, I killed it in 1:27

[shell hazel]

good ele but no atk

[gritty ridge]

Because I couldnt break 2nd slipper

[glad glade]

I can feel the crack addict in me itching to take a spin

[shell hazel]

probably one of my best rolled units

[gritty ridge]

Sanis rerun soon if you wanna make a new account

[gritty ridge]

You wanna trade?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[gritty ridge]

Ill let you borrow my rapi

[glad glade]

Nah one account is good enough. Unless if I wanna go for a PvP focused account

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-deal-nope-no-thanks-shark-tank-kevin-o-leary-gif-16636741

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

just stay 1 account I think is best or you burn out on dailies 😄

at the very least 2nd account way later when main one is just aura farming

[gritty ridge]

This is the only account I play on, and ive already decided im gonna invest pvp rather than raids

[glad glade]

Not bad at all

[shell hazel]

I'll flip some point

[glad glade]

Here’s mine. My wife is the fairest of them all

[shell hazel]

I think I can pvp invest for the rest of 2025 and be in a good spot to then focus more on raids

[gritty ridge]

I may switch to raids after I win CA

[shell hazel]

strong Cindy 🙂

[gritty ridge]

What if thats smol white

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cinderella-nikke-pat-pat-gif-16117920623303817600

[glad glade]

She is my wife after all. Gotta give her special treatment

[gritty ridge]

Could also be crown

[shell hazel]

but yeah few more months of finishing my pvp teams as best I can then I'll look at fully swapping focus, because I don't think I have that much more to do here

[glad glade]

Sorry bro, but my Cindy is just that beautiful. Its a shame she’s not C7. I regret not spending all those gold tickets for her dupes

[shell hazel]

a few more SR-15 boosts, building of some random units like soda maybe to chuck into comps a bit, bunch of rock rerolls to do on gear which is probably the hardest thing to do

[gritty ridge]

My wife has terrible lines, but shes a support unit thankfully

[glad glade]

CS right? Yeah thats pretty brutal. Especially for 15%

[glad glade]

max cored
Soulful

I hope you bought her Phantom thief costume

[gritty ridge]

Ive only been playing since a bit before 2.5

[shell hazel]

yeah CS rolls and some core dps rolls as well

[gritty ridge]

Her costume wasnt an option for me

[shell hazel]

long road there potentially to deal with

[glad glade]

Oh right. I’m kinda dumb

[shell hazel]

i'll gun for 15% CS on all my batteries except helm I want a bit more on

[gritty ridge]

1 rock per piece for black cs lines

[glad glade]

And it never ends. Raid is even worse for that

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[glad glade]

Anomaly clears is even more brutal than that

[gritty ridge]

Raid invests are scary

[shell hazel]

well I figure that even a mid way raid invest that actually works is better than the 0 invest I got now 😄

[gritty ridge]

Im only at the 10% range for raids atm

[glad glade]

True. You could get 10% frame

[shell hazel]

I usually get about 5% atm

give or take, so pushing it higher just needs some key investments

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I was gonna say you should be 5-3% range

[glad glade]

Its ok, at your level you’re actually above average. It takes about a year for the average low spender to get their first 3% frame

Like me….

[gritty ridge]

Just from passive invests alone

[shell hazel]

yeah my core campaing stuff gets some invest so not totally 0 pve invest

[glad glade]

Yeah you’re on your way well to 3%. Getting key units to S10 is also important

[gritty ridge]

Oh btw, if Im 3 shotting comps with bready at 30% atk... would i 2 shot them at 60%?

[glad glade]

Like Grave or Tove

[gritty ridge]

Why grave

Shes just burst gen and atk buff

[glad glade]

Grave is still one of the best B2s imo. Its just that Crown overshadows everyone else

[gritty ridge]

Oh I agree

Her and the maid duo are still amazing

Grave also gives you the most burst gen in the game depending on team comp

[glad glade]

Very true. She and Asuka work surprisingly well together

Just not in this raid

[gritty ridge]

Grave, siren, and 3 mg is instant burst

0 burst downtime

[glad glade]

Idk I feel like THelm+Siren+3MGs give out more burst gen

Especially if you manual THelm

[gritty ridge]

Its specifically cuz of this

This specific buff makes mg's have the most burst gen

[glad glade]

Ooh. I didn’t even realize that existed

I thought Grave’s pierce just made the burst gen better for some reason

[gritty ridge]

I mean it kinda does

Imagine if they made grave gen buff work before first burst

She could be used in pvp

[glad glade]

It would make OC easier

[gritty ridge]

Im hoping we get water weak overclock next

So i can bully it with bready

[glad glade]

Still gets screwed by Jackal

Dear God no. My only properly built water unit is Doropity. God forbid if they ban her

[swift mango]

C1-2 didn't hit me for one full day. And I stay C1.

Bros, hit me down so I could use you guys to test teams.

[stuck hearth]

Earning 3rd for staying in 4th for 2 weeks straight.

[swift mango]

Hope I could effort 1 Collab MLB but I doubt.

Nothing gonna eat into my emergency Makima fund. That I saved and yet to farm.

I'm not really RE fan so just 1 copy and dip. Probably gonna be bad if they did triple banner with the little girl as SR though.

[high stream]

Is giving the best in slot cube better than giving a much higher cube for pvp?
For example .. I have lvl. 7 Bastion and Resilience cube .. but my quantum and vigor are only lvl.3 so far

Like .. do I give Jackal a Resilience cube for extra stats, or a lvl3 quantum?

[swift mango]

CP matters in SpA so yes there.

Quantum and Vigor are depending on the team.

[high stream]

Oh it also depends on the team? Sigh.

[swift mango]

Generally, you put quantum on Jackal, always. Because she benefits from it the most in the game.

[high stream]

That's what I was wondering about

[upper harbor]

Currently building Trina for my Scarlet team, but would appreciate any other good counter teams to beat this team. Thanks for any advice!

[glad meteor]

What does your noise noah charge speed ols look like

If your noah has higher charge speed, noise can take taunt prio so.

Can

Noise siren cindy jackal noah

[upper harbor]

Will give that a go, my noise is 6.31 and noah's at 7.2, def need more rocks to roll. thanks mate

[glad meteor]

Put adjutant cube on Noah

Charge speed

[upper harbor]

Thanks mate

[raven plover]

RE fan ?

[pastel narwhal]

[livid marsh]

Ada wong fan

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

I did it!!! 3% again.

Overall more dmg even though my Electric teams did worse.

[swift mango]

NOT

[raven plover]

yea I had doubt cus you start with "effort to mlb" then just 1 copy and dip

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I'm wondering if we can abuse the lethality of vesti for p1-p3 for slow cindy mihara sac

will trigger biscuit immunity and kill off midhara basically 100%

[hollow lagoon]

Idk if my best unit is my 3 ele Cinderella or my very crittey siren

My Cinderella didn’t got rolled much tho

But my best unit rolled wise in prob the 4 charge speed helm

Not much ele or atk but that’s just rock sink at this point

[high stream]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtOTEyNjUwNzE3OTQxMTQwMzUwNw%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtOTEyNjUwNzE3OTQxMTQwMzUwNw%3D%3D

Would u guys mind giving me something new to build towards for PvP? Image 1 is my current main team. Image 2 is my max CP team.
Ideally .. if y'all don't mind, give me the best thing I can play right now .. and on top of that the best long term goal to work towards.

I have all cubes at this point too.
All cubes are level 3 .. Bastion and Resilience are Level 7

Only cube I dont have is whatever the last cube is

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet siren Trina Centi/anis jackal

[high stream]

Oh, sorry. Thanks for Rookie Arena, ty .. I'll note that down
But I meant for SP arena, its just cloesd right now, so i cant screenshot it properly

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

And ur other team replace jackal with like rumani

Or noise

[high stream]

Noise I don't have still, hence the blabla link. Unless u prefer 5 screenshots of all my nikke

I also have Vesti, etc.

TVesti

[hollow lagoon]

Rumani is better u get 2 rl

[high stream]

So .. For SP Arena, right now my best playable would be ..
Noah, Biscuit, Cindi, HelmT, Jackal(?)
Scarlet, Siren, Trina, Centi/Anis(Summer Anis?), Jackal(?)
Max CP team

Do I understandthat correctly?

In the Cindi team I switch Jackal for Rumani?

This is my current Centi, 444
Rumani, 444

[hollow lagoon]

Why are you using jackal for Cindy team tho?

[high stream]

Mainly cause Jackal is good and it's a lot .. LOT more CP than rumani
And right now, what I have is enough to hold Top 10 in my bracket

But I can't defend against enough people .. From what I can tell .. about 15-17 people can beat my defense.

So I have to constantly push to maintain Rank 8-10

Rank 7 and up is to powerful for me to compete

[hollow lagoon]

Then u set up a indom team with vesti and ur done something like that

[high stream]

But I wont have enough resources right now to OL a whole indom team.

So the CP of that team would be a lot lower. If u give me an example team, I could check

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t really gib u example really, depends on what u have left

[high stream]

There is .. the blabla link

There you go, lol. I thought blabla was easier

[hollow lagoon]

Vesti or sbs up to u

[high stream]

One second,let me check

What is the nikke on the right??

[hollow lagoon]

Drake

[high stream]

Oh

[hollow lagoon]

The one where u got a lot of free copies of and is a great unit for shotgun team

So the chance of you not having is zero

[high stream]

Sigh.

Very low CP team. Basically Vesti, Blanc, Anis and Drake all need OL

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a you issue, should have seen me when I made the grim realization that I needed 5 full teams with ol gear when I got into champ arena

[high stream]

And Drake needs 10 10 10 apparently .. lol. Blanc needs 4 4 10, Vesti needs 7 10 10
I could easily do Skill 1 and 2 on all of them .. But my lack of burst books is disgusting.

[hollow lagoon]

Why 10/10/10

[high stream]

Cause the pvp sheet says so

[hollow lagoon]

I mean yeah it’s great but working with 7/7/7 is fine

[high stream]

Hmm, I suppose

I think with that kind of CP .. for now I'm better of using a Max CP team and getting 1 other team as strong as possible.

Can you tell me the single best team I can build with what I have right now?

Then I'll use that beside my max cp

[hollow lagoon]

Drake’s a raid unit if u allocate your resource into her while ur main campaign team /interception is not maxed you will suffer

[high stream]

And then slowly build towards indom team

Campaign team is maxed.

OLs arent perfect

But otherwise maxed

[hollow lagoon]

Single best team? The most solid thing is Noah team on 2 rl with your choice of b3

My ols are pertty bad sigh…..

[high stream]

Well .. you say 2 RL, but surely not just any 2 RL .. and my choice of B3?
I suppose right now the strongest B3 i have for pvp would be Vesti .. but since she isnt build, the next strongest thing I have is Cindi

[hollow lagoon]

I need more rocks but game ain’t giving me any

[high stream]

You and me both.

[hollow lagoon]

Well I’m out of the perma 2 ele roll hlell now

Some of my main units have 3 now

[high stream]

Doesnt this mean .. my best possible team right now is .. just this?

I cant make this stronger?

[hollow lagoon]

Rookie?

[high stream]

No for SP arena

[hollow lagoon]

Sp arena wise just stick into 2 teams

Ur 3rd is whatever

[high stream]

Yeah, i figured .. with my third team right now being at 210k cp

My max cp team right now is 390K .. that holds one defense spot

So i need a 2nd team that is as good as it gets

CP wise, positioning wise and unit wise

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet siren Trina, classic

If u wanna be fancier u can use rosana over siren but the chance of your rosana being invested is non existent

[high stream]

I have a feeling cp will be lower as well, but lets see

[hollow lagoon]

I mean

If ur in 10th place your cp is prob low anyway

[high stream]

I wouldnt say .. mine is low, especially for where I'm at
I would say the CP of others is high.

[hollow lagoon]

So it’s up to u if u think u can gap people beneath you or u can run mechanically challenging stuff

[high stream]

There are a hand full of absurd whales in my bracket

Like .. most people are 900-950K
And then there is like .. 5 people that are 1.2M - 1.5M

The difference is absurd.

[hollow lagoon]

Global?

[high stream]

Yeah

[hollow lagoon]

Would be funny if I’m in your bracket

Chance is non zero

[high stream]

I'm playing since 4 months

[hollow lagoon]

The very unlikely

4month ur account is pertty stacked

You also spent

[high stream]

In terms of progress .. I'm also the best in my bracket, despite the CP difference
The strongest whale in my bracket beats me in all investment rankings .. but I beat him in all tower placements and in HM campaign he is only 1 chapter ahead of me .. which is pretty much only because this guys synchro is 60 levels higher than mine, rofl.

I'm stuck at HM 17 boss right now, doing 1 damage.

So I'm .. level gated there.

[high stream]

I'm fully F2P

[shell hazel]

17 one was a bit annoying I think

[hollow lagoon]

I’m gated hm 32 boss for the foreseeable eternity

[shell hazel]

I'm 2 levels away from 381 zant then I can get through most of chapter 30 I think, probably not the boss

[high stream]

Seems very annoying. I can only do dmg in burst .. not sure if I can beat it. There are some clears present with my CP .. but my guess is that they're either assisted or malded for hours and hours

[shell hazel]

is it the flying bird one?

[high stream]

Yeah, with the crystal shields, his rockets take me out in 2 hits

Even in cover. Its a bit absurd.

[shell hazel]

yeah have to break the rockets asap

[high stream]

The amount of i-framing required is insane

[shell hazel]

I wonder if I recorded that one I may have done, would have been a while ago

[high stream]

Like .. u cant cover.
So I assume that the people that malded this boss at my CP started over and over until they i-framed enough to reach phase 2

[hollow lagoon]

This guy says that but he’s prob at hard black snake on sync 160 with some black magic

[high stream]

Like .. the lowest clear for that CH17 hm boss is 5k cp less than mine

So I'm pretty much at the edge already of whats possible

[hollow lagoon]

I always clear much higher than lowest cuz my ol rolls r bad

And I don’t pause to mald

[high stream]

I'm also stuck here.
Lowest clears with this team on record start at 366k cp
There are 3 lower clears .. with the lowest at 355k .. but it uses SDoro

And I'm not sure i want to build SDoro just to get one of the top 5 lowest clears

I would if i had the resources

[shell hazel]

snake? I used SBS

[high stream]

I am, yes.
But like i said .. the lowest clears on record using the SBS team are 366k .. so still 6k higher than mine.

If I cleared snake with my current team .. I'd have the lowest SBS clear on record

I tried like 10+ times already, it doesnt seem possible

even if i play the mechs perfectly, i dont do enough dmg

[hollow lagoon]

Well u atleast have crown

The #3 of my server have no crown

[shell hazel]

I got here near this power

[high stream]

You beat 17 HM boss with less than 360K CP?

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait I think the number 3 got crown

[shell hazel]

seems so

[high stream]

No way, this would mean ur clear is in the top 5, hold on

[shell hazel]

if you're global sort by lowest clears all time and I'm TAV if you can see it

[high stream]

Oh wait, nvm

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/black-magic-darkness-dave-chappelle-gif-11431445

[high stream]

Im not stuck in ch17 .. im stuck in ch18

I did beat ch17 boss

[shell hazel]

ah one was super bugged lol

[hollow lagoon]

What was 18? 19 was stormlord I recall

Or I’m I tripping? It was a long ago

Anyway gonna try to sleep again

[high stream]

This Aimin guy be whaling.
But also skill issue'ing

[shell hazel]

haf and half 😄

I have all of mine, my server had no whales in luckily

I missed some early ones as I was new to the game

[high stream]

He the whale
I'm the mechanical prodigy

[shell hazel]

but I'm like 100 floors ahead in tetra and missilis atm 😄

[swift mango]

Well, you don't need crown

In Arena

[swift mango]

StormBringer is certainly hard. Especially if you red and can't iframe.... Which was me, until I just use Moran to tank.

At high enough cp

[high stream]

I can i-frame .. i-framing this much is a whole new level of malding

[swift mango]

Just build Ein and liter if you want lowest clear I guess.

[high stream]

They're both somewhat built.
But I lack maintenance kits for SR15 doll to maintain CP
And also lack OL on both of them

Like .. my campaign team nikke right now are 30-40K CP ahead of all my other nikke

So switching out for anything that isn't built makes the stage unbeatable immediately

[shell hazel]

I may have needed to use liter

can't remember

cover repair then

[high stream]

The currently 2nd lowest clear uses my team

But I tried it with this team .. I have no idea how that's supposed to be possible

[shell hazel]

you can just get more sync and smash past it eventually

[swift mango]

Which required lots of micro management I guess. Everyone cover up. Should with RH>crown>RH at right timing. Heal with Helm at right timing. Shot with Rapi... Etc

[high stream]

Yeah, it's a lot of malding

[shell hazel]

I use pause mald a lot these days

35-40% deficit on my hard modes 😄

game throws stupid stages at me requires pause tech

[swift mango]

On top of probably tons of Ele and ATK line. And only those lines alone to lower the CP....

I have seen a lowest clear malder equipment. Basically all 2 line ATK and Ele, black blue. Liter could even be zero OL.

[high stream]

Well, im malding some more right now, just got to 200 bars, so maybe possible

[swift mango]

Your synch are in range I guess. 20 level higher than the lowest

[high stream]

Yeah

[swift mango]

Most lowest clear guys are kinda bricked in level anyway so nothing to be envy off

Making lowest at the cost of bricking their CA.

[shell hazel]

my clear I think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLqstyxKntk

is this the same one?

[high stream]

Yes, same boss

[shell hazel]

liter skills/cp wasn't that important, looks like I just blew them up with rapi and RH lol

[high stream]

I think liter is really a god-sent there

What was ur cp?

[shell hazel]

have a watch and see what I did, it's been a while

I show it at the end