pvp-arena

[lone sequoia]

wait, no

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

🍿

[near plank]

Bruh hobo man is a troll

[umbral belfry]

oh brother

[lone sequoia]

bro, we are all in the same group

[near plank]

Check everytime I mention him

[twilit bay]

discord pvp

[tropic summit]

a filthy casual no, a liar probably though

[near plank]

See his reply

[eager mountain]

I haven’t touch spa for a bit I’m a certificated filthy casual

[tropic summit]

hopefully you're playing actually decent games instead

[near plank]

This

[atomic wolf]

I can vouch for that, he scammed me like 7$ when he borrowed it and pfomise to repay double

[vapid lake]

[near plank]

Peace for literal months, then when I comeback to ask the people I trust aren't here anymore

[swift mango]

Anyway, you said win lose doesn't matter. But you certainly make a huge push out of it.

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel literal gotten nothing from kraken other than the basic crate reward for the past 2 days

[near plank]

I can't get the good advice that was here before, not with the new people here at least

[eager mountain]

decent enough for a ho*ny mf

oh ye time to readjust dye color for the 213th time for this set

made up number but actually close, 200 times ish

[umbral belfry]

tibi playing a dress up game

[atomic wolf]

ACTION IS COMING

[eager mountain]

better then nik even tho they are both nik

[vapid lake]

hoboman a troll tho i agree

[atomic wolf]

@raven plover do you sleep while thinking about the french revolution

[near plank]

[atomic wolf]

btw noah sr15 should survive anything but shotgun team right

[near plank]

I don't know if blood asking me to ask hobo is a troll move or not

[eager mountain]

a man of culture always gets it

[tropic summit]

2RL probably, 3RL it depends on enemy invest, for example against keripo you'd be dead

[near plank]

[atomic wolf]

Noshit against him i'd die

But yeah its 2rl as shown

[tropic summit]

then you should be fine unless against ele weak SGs

[lone sequoia]

nop... dupes... enemy ele dmg... many things can go wrong

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

for real tho everytime i talk to hoboman in any channel he sound like a troll idk if i should take anything he says seriously

[atomic wolf]

Did some test (~15% deficit) and she still alive with like 50% HP so good enough

Btw @umbral belfry i think I know why noah is being stunned

For the record she is 15% cs

[eager mountain]

def 2rl noah can still die if they want her die so

[atomic wolf]

So is everyone else

So the problem literally lies with having THE FUCCKING MAX AMMO LINE ON HER

[near plank]

It feels like 50/50 sometimes he actually has good insight

[atomic wolf]

Doubt it ever happens in my SP arena

[eager mountain]

so is everyone else, thus unprotected p1 is still never truly safe lol

[near plank]

I wanna say I lost more than won though

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

@swift mango there's been changes in my bracket, the ch3 was lower level than me 9 months ago, he's now outlevelling the entire bracket, even the 2 top whales

the german dude is on a roll, god knows how much money he's throwing at the game

[atomic wolf]

522 sync top 3

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/spanky-throwing-money-cash-money-our-gang-little-rascals-gif-7602783295867595867

[atomic wolf]

Bro is doing blitzkrieg 💀💀💀

[tropic summit]

german tactics stronk

[near plank]

Welp im guaranteed max rewards like I said before, it's just funny and annoying people say pvp is solved then still lose

[atomic wolf]

I mean he has money

I pray he becomes homeless one day

[tropic summit]

if he overthrow ch1 i'm happy, that throne has been taken for since i ever had that guy in my brackets

[eager mountain]

occassionally snipe p1 unprotected 2rl noah if they dont have a back up b2 or another taunt
works

[near plank]

Check the links vid I posted in my messages as literal proof

[shell hazel]

-# blitzkrieg enters the chat

[atomic wolf]

i'm curious as to how rumani noah interacts tbh

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/no-anime-in-the-fatherland-anine-meme-german-gif-26081536

[atomic wolf]

because rumani burst is a taunt

[near plank]

Meanwhile

[atomic wolf]

noah already has a taunt on full charge built in

and both stacks so neither overwrites each others

which is absolutely annoying against a siren

[near plank]

There are some people who can give 3/3 win advice

[whole pawn]

i m curious

[atomic wolf]

Hello my son have you obtained crown yet

Shit that reminds me her gacha costume will never rerun

[lone sequoia]

time priority, rumani will get the aggro during full burst, then back to noah

[placid bloom]

taunt on hit takes priority over attract on burst, whoever's rocket lands last gets taunt priority if both are on-hit taunt. Assuming both are shooting at enemy p1, p5 rocket lands faster than p1 if both are same cs

[lone sequoia]

for the units they attack of course

[fathom rock]

I can't give advice in pvp why I don't answer most pvp questions

[atomic wolf]

Oh shit thats why

Because Im certain Rumani has less cs than Noah

Now thats EPIC™™™

[placid bloom]

I can give advice I just like watching from the sidelines as people struggle

[vapid lake]

loading time longer than that rumani vs biscuit wet noodle fight

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

people want teams, not advise

[eager mountain]

i swear supporter rl hits much harder then anything thats not a hard carry

[fathom rock]

That's still advice isn't it

[eager mountain]

way too often i see rapun bis etc doing almost hard carry lv of dmg

[shell hazel]

I like to learn what teams to run but I also want to know why they work and what I can cook myself

[near plank]

whats the perfect answer to this the moran team above then

[shell hazel]

I think that just being given teams with zero understanding is an issue

[atomic wolf]

Rumani has 16.6%
Noah has 18.22% cs

I think I want to cripple myself

[lone sequoia]

a specific one, but you don't count others

[near plank]

Mr pvp is solved and it's just rock paper scissors

[atomic wolf]

There is no way I am rerolling this shit bro

[swift mango]

Rock rock rock

[fathom rock]

Hmm where I'd like to give it a shot cant guarantee an answer tho

[eager mountain]

dont add em, sum identical rolls, round each then add

[atomic wolf]

No i sucka t math

[near plank]

I'm 0-5 here and it doesn't really matter cause I get max rewards

[eager mountain]

1.5 rounds to 2 and 1.4 rounds to 1, now u know it

[placid bloom]

perfect answer is have double their CP, I don't even need to look at their team comp

[atomic wolf]

Huh so its 17% and 18%

[keen vapor]

I only got 1 rock

[eager mountain]

nope

[near plank]

But im annoyed/amused no one here gave me a team that works

[atomic wolf]

IT DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING but honestly the charge speed cube might be useful now

[keen vapor]

I told you to use Noah Helm 2RL

But you didn't listened

[lone sequoia]

if you have a sr or a unit that last hit in a cs range, that can help

[hollow gulch]

hello guys, i need help forming squads for pvp (both SP and rookie arena) - as you can see i don't have jackal and bisquit, any workarounds?, yesterday i got Vesti tactical upgrade, i also got helm but without treasure i guess she's useless.

just point me who to invest and squads formations

many thanks in advance

[near plank]

Give exact team I try again

[fathom rock]

But where is it

[vapid lake]

if u mean that clip above where u lost to that helm+moran team, maybe u just need rh b1 + blanc to do enough damage to kill

[near plank]

And I'll double post and see if people say the annoying line again

[glad meteor]

Need enough gen to not get helm nukes as well if running jackal

[near plank]

"it was never gonna work, do x instead, you didn't listen"

[swift mango]

Send either of this and you win. Helm hit scarlet. Vesti hit Moran.

I have nothing more to say.

[lone sequoia]

victim mentality (?)

[vapid lake]

im just spitballing off the top of my head i didnt put the teams into any calculator

[near plank]

Round 6

[vapid lake]

But generally i dont hit moran teams without double buff

[keen vapor]

Noah Biscuit Helm Laplace Noise

[near plank]

Yay or nay

Oh wait rh b1

[tropic summit]

you're bursting B2 and B3 with RH there

[atomic wolf]

You say this as your ass isnt suck at pve as well

[keen vapor]

Huh? What happened to his Rosanna team

[tropic summit]

now you're bursting B1 B2 and B3 with RH

blanc cheering?

[near plank]

Lol

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[fathom rock]

Atleast I know what I'm doing there

[vapid lake]

centi or emilia out, put vesti in, buff vesti with rh and blanc

[atomic wolf]

Damn

[hollow gulch]

thanks a lot

[tropic summit]

another liar

[near plank]

Vesti didn't do much last time

[fathom rock]

You think too highly of me

[near plank]

Rh b1 enough?

[vapid lake]

U need double buff to kill invested stall

Single buff no enough

[near plank]

Ye this is what happened

[fathom rock]

I still dunno what teams we facing

[copper creek]

Lalala

[twilit bay]

Can someone help make some teams for sp?
I've been changing my teams everyday, but every defense I make works at most once

[near plank]

I'll repost

[lone sequoia]

he can, scarlet/trina, noah/noise/bay/vesti and cp team with hyper carries

[atomic wolf]

How is he 570 sync

[placid bloom]

Moran Bay is not a stall team what

[atomic wolf]

ok he has sr15 on marian

[lone sequoia]

2RL? no, just full burst, bay for shared dmg team need better units and dupes

[atomic wolf]

Think ill puke

[twilit bay]

should I be higher?

[near plank]

I kinda said I wouldn't take advice again here but some people wanna try so fork it

[hollow gulch]

so scarlet (no black shadow) trina noah noise and vesti - in that particular order in squad?

[vapid lake]

those scarlet counter procs are diabolical

[swift mango]

@tropic summit

All this talk made me hit my 60 level diff whale just to confirm Noah+Noise+HelmT works. Unless the difference between him and his opponents bigger than me against 60 level diff whale.

[near plank]

It can't get any worse right

[atomic wolf]

What do you mean shoukd you be higher anything above 500 sync is gigawhale

[twilit bay]

I've only spent money on skins.

[swift mango]

I send you sure win teams yet you keep bching that you can't win. Then stop complain.

[lone sequoia]

different setups, rail will probably give you better ideas, i don't like to build teams here

[near plank]

Third times the charm

Do we rh b1 b3 or something else

[vapid lake]

Vesti blanc rh centi/emilia jackal

[near plank]

Oh wrong one

[covert lintel]

This cindy is not fat like my whaler

[near plank]

atm

Wait wrong again

[tropic summit]

naga centi cindy noir rapunzel
moran blanc s.anis draket trina
auto

notes:

-quantum on trina to hit 3RL threshold
-get SR5 (ideally SR15) on the following:

noise rumani centi noah trina

-these are important units for either utility or battery purposes, get helm treasured phase 2 s1 lvl 10 asap too

can drastically upgrade your teams then, once those are ready just ping again

[shell hazel]

your vesti only has 8 ammo? 😮

[near plank]

You said helm swap then that means Cindy is kinda useless there

[shell hazel]

default ammo vesti isn't going to work here

she spends way too long reloading during burst you need atk lines and ammo lines

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina on blue doll, he also is jackal-less

that team probably falls to a sneeze of a campaign team

[shell hazel]

16-20 ammo vesti, with 10-19% CS and ideally 3-4 atk lines

[near plank]

That's why someone said rh blanc will have enough damage

[shell hazel]

you still need ammo, is your vesti overloaded?

[hollow gulch]

so i joined the game watched the announce of red ash, and helm dropped a week ago, will really take time before i mlb her

[vapid lake]

uhh vesti need at least 16 ammo for pvp

[near plank]

Yeah I'm never gonna get that anytime soon

[tropic summit]

helmT battery potential is unmatched atm, you really want that unit to hit phase 2 and s1 lvl 10

[shell hazel]

right now your vesti is far from usable imo - ammo is critical

[vapid lake]

Anything less kinda bad

[shell hazel]

what are your vesti overloads?

[hollow gulch]

i know that - but gacha had other opinion to not give me her for so long

[shell hazel]

the true gacha experience

[near plank]

Id skip the vesti suggestions

Cause 16 rn is too much

Can't afford the rocks

[shell hazel]

you have 0 ammo lines right?

[vapid lake]

Yea if ur vesti have to reload its rough usually the killing volley is 3rd or 4th volley which require 12-16 ammo

[shell hazel]

like none, it's not even a case of can't afford rocks, you haven't done anything with her ammo lines

if I can afford to spend some on her, you should be able to, I'm not even sync 400 yet

[hollow gulch]

just let me clarify

for rookie arena i can pick any of your suggestions

for sp arena it's
1st - naga centi cindy noir rapunzel
2nd - moran blanc anisss, drake trina

and a third one?

[near plank]

Bruh did priorities

I'm Pve mostly

[twilit bay]

Third one is forming a team by pressing "auto"

[hollow gulch]

ah now i get it - thanks

[shell hazel]

you still need a min commit to pvp if you want to win fights, sync only gets you so far

you'd be better off sending a non-bricked dps than 0 ammo vesti

[near plank]

Like I said I won't use vesti

[hollow gulch]

so there is no helm in mileage shop?

[shell hazel]

not anymore no

[near plank]

Atm only 1 guy said rh blanc can work

[twilit bay]

Not the same, but similar. T1

[near plank]

Let me scroll up

[twilit bay]

Oh wait, wrong video

[vapid lake]

yea that works too, it double buff

[near plank]

Bay blocked mine

We go back to square 1

That's literally what I posted

Lol

[twilit bay]

Meant to send this one

t2

[covert lintel]

That's why you're trying hard

[shell hazel]

blue doll emilia 😭

[lone sequoia]

ssrapi snipe?

does he have the ele for that?

[vapid lake]

Which pve player dont have 90 ele 40 atk on his rapi?

[twilit bay]

SBS needs to have less atk than Rapi. Other than that, everything should be okay

[glad meteor]

time to see rapi get sniped instead of sbs

[covert lintel]

Pve players have nothing to do with that
Only luck matter

[twilit bay]

K showed me that video.

[vapid lake]

I was expecting sbs indom wiping out that team, i did not expect rapi one shotting them

[swift mango]

It's still 60 level diff.

My Gemmer C2 has max core but he doesn't buy level.

[near plank]

If rapi can work I have 101/44 rapi

[twilit bay]

I've tried it may times. Has never failed me against bay moran helm

[glad meteor]

I saw it first on retro vid. But merry showed that specific comp

[lone sequoia]

that thing is 1 hit combo, if he fail, need dupes for the post burst dmg

[tropic summit]

third one is auto, you don't have proper units to build a 3rd team yet, go for anything that gives you high CP as that can also work as a defense

[vapid lake]

he can sacrifice mihara instead of sbs

[placid bloom]

yes Rapi works because Bay adds damage share to the entire team. The explosion procs first and pops cover, then Rapi's burst hits Moran.

[placid bloom]

which then gets passed to the rest of the team

[hollow gulch]

so the proper units including jackal and bisquit?

[twilit bay]

Your sbs/whoever you put at p2 has to have more attack than Rapi

[tropic summit]

ye those would offer way better defense options

but also your noah, rumani, trina and centi are currently low on CP and we could put them to better use if you raise them

[shell hazel]

Bay is just sharing with her team mates 😄

[high stream]

Best possible Vesti pvp team?

[swift mango]

Use her with siren and Bastion if you have no ammo.

[near plank]

Sbs

[placid bloom]

Bay turns Rapi burst into Scar burst

[near plank]

Sbs should have more cause c7

[tropic summit]

indom vesti on double buff kinda works like emilia, although she needs OLs to work well

[near plank]

Exact same atk line%

[hollow gulch]

CP? and wdym raise - more levels or higher skill lvl or dolls?

[shell hazel]

Rapi dps is legit if you're not giga feeding jackal too much

[near plank]

But in the vid sbs died

[tropic summit]

combat power, a stat that you need to prevent a team from being hit with penality (either on your side or against you)

the threshold is at 15,4%

[high stream]

So this?

[tropic summit]

as for raise, dolls, OLs, overload gear, affection

[covert lintel]

Is 100% ammo enough?

[twilit bay]

Sbs is there so that that Rapi doesn't get hit by Helm's burst

[near plank]

Oooh

[placid bloom]

SBS gets one-shot by Helm because they are 2RL and your team is slower

[tropic summit]

that's single buff 2RL vesti, which is decent but may not be lethal against ultra stall
a good team regardless

[hollow gulch]

i understand, okay so trina, rumani and noah - i will focus on them

[tropic summit]

ask the vesti experts @placid bloom @swift mango

[near plank]

Let me copy

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

Like you only follow my advise one. Which you made me think you Cindy won't be blocked by Bay. Now you ignore my sure win team that I test in SpA and rookie for you again. Okay enough. We need not chat with each other again.

[high stream]

What would u change?
I assume Indom, Vesti, HelmT .. who are the last 2?

[shell hazel]

100% ammo should be 16, I think it's a good starting point yes

[placid bloom]

I don't own Vesti to experiment with, it would all be theorycraft

[shell hazel]

you actually don't want like 17-18 ammo shit goes weird if it's not a multiple of 4

what she does is charges up => fires 4 shots, repeats

[placid bloom]

technically 18 ammo with Bastion gets you 24 shots before reloading

[lone sequoia]

1 extra ammo brick

[shell hazel]

the problem with an odd ammo count is that she stops to reload

[placid bloom]

it's just not good for PvE

[tropic summit]

for attack you can push vesti into double buff and rely on either feed or tailoring based on what you facing

this one punishes slower teams or heavy feed teams

[swift mango]

100% ammo is enough

[high stream]

Interesting

[swift mango]

I'm no expert.

I just own her for 3 days.

[shell hazel]

so with like 18 ammo it goes:
charge up
fire 4 shots (4 ammo used)
charge up
fire 4 shots (8 ammo used)
charge up
fire 4 shots (12 ammo used)
charge up
fire 4 shots (16 ammo used)
charge up
fire 2 shots (18 ammo used)
reload
charge up ...

[tropic summit]

for defense you want to consider both shotguns and siren although, so you'll want to downgrade her to single buff, although keep her on 2RL and make sure linked units are covering p1 and p5

additionally, jackal p1 serves to counter siren stun

[covert lintel]

Hope i can get along with the crit rate

[near plank]

What about the scar team then

[shell hazel]

crit is just a nice stat to have, I think 10% CS and 16 ammo baseline is a reasonable place to be. especially if you get 3-4 atk lines

[placid bloom]

that's why you bastion. You get 1 proc at 8 ammo to bring you back to 11 and then another proc at 1 ammo to bring you back to 4

so you have 6 volleys

[shell hazel]

with bastion you need to be careful but yes, you can get it to work in your favour

and siren can screw with your ammo count as well

[tropic summit]

3 days = expert

4 days = veteran

5 days = may aswell retire

[shell hazel]

5 days = forgotten it all

4/10/8 for my vesti now

[swift mango]

6 days = back to a baby. 🫃

[shell hazel]

7 days = ???

[tropic summit]

jesus resurrects

[shell hazel]

we start again on day 1 🙂

[tropic summit]

back to the suffering

[near plank]

?

[shell hazel]

scarlet waiting room for overload rerolls

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[lone sequoia]

good time to get charge dmg

[shell hazel]

I know but you know what? last 2 days in kraken s7 I got 1 rocks 😄

[tropic summit]

best we can do is hit rate

[glad meteor]

Defence

[shell hazel]

honestly my scar is so bricked lol

[lone sequoia]

i like DEF

[tropic summit]

at least that one serves a remote purpose

[shell hazel]

I'm just hoping I can get 1-2 atk rolls with that without tanking my cp to crap

[swift mango]

She is a bit stronger than Emi I guess....

[glad meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1285446023065505900/1366608732628324352/shake.gif

[urban mulch]

how much delay does cindy burst have?

[glad meteor]

I keep getting it

[tropic summit]

for you to speak against your precious emilia... you really must be sick

[covert lintel]

The last one is rapun

[lone sequoia]

k doesn't use scarlet stall teams

[glad meteor]

i would never

[swift mango]

The damn Jackal bug for a month now was the reason my CA team suck for the last 3 season. I should take it into account when building team now.

[near plank]

Send?

[covert lintel]

She is stronger than emi, but not when she is facing emi

[shell hazel]

you want rapun to be main b1 on 2nd team here?

[lone sequoia]

not against a faster vesti

[heavy hearth]

Anything I can do for a bit of a better SP arena? Rail cooked hard with this last time I asked

[tropic summit]

the irony

[tropic summit]

yes very demotivating playing arena with all these spaghetti code bugs atm

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiergod-gif-1458424963897909473

[tropic summit]

[heavy hearth]

Besti is at 19 ammo

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-in-the-hall-dave-foley-smoking-smoke-french-gif-12594369867670974500

[glad meteor]

I thought they were seasonal buffs

[near plank]

To redeem yourself @raven plover answer this

[lone sequoia]

the fun part will be during next CA when everyone want indom vesti mirror just for one team to lose pre-burst

[covert lintel]

Noise p1 noah p2
Make sure noise taking dmg/taunt (slower cs speed than noah)

[tropic summit]

obviously intended feature

[raven plover]

I just woke up, and Im about to sleep again

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

Woke up to check spa

[lone sequoia]

how to forget about noah double cast on burst

[vapid lake]

hoboman no need to work

[near plank]

Noah and noise same cs

Standard 4.92 initial roll

[fathom rock]

This the noah team you mean?

[shell hazel]

have you re-rolled any of the pvp units? 😄

[near plank]

Yes

[fathom rock]

No one managed to come up with something yet? this seemed to have been going on for a while, hmm I think

[near plank]

Reread the past 5 hours in this chat

Or watch the my backlog vids posted recently

Taking biscuit from helm team might kill us

Or helm heal strong enough

[hollow gulch]

one last thing - s.anis is sparkling or sr anis?

[shell hazel]

it says sparking in the linked thing

[hollow gulch]

oh i noticed now, i got very bad eyesight

[near plank]

I think we don't need biscuit in the rapi comp

[covert lintel]

I don't think sbs and rapipi will win but i might be wrong
It is still better cindy team previously, just change cindy to sanis

[near plank]

There's no Cindy here

[vapid lake]

Its to make sure blanc doesnt die u sure u wanna take that risk

[near plank]

Yeah but how to beat zombie scarlet

Is helm heal enough

[twilit bay]

I've beaten a similar team using
noise,noah,helm,cinderella,clip rl
They weren't using rh though

[near plank]

There's a vid showing scarlet survives it

That scar team is 2 rl

Poeple never recommend a team to beat this

[vapid lake]

don't wanna think how to beat vesti just skip

[gritty ridge]

Mihara sac vesti

[near plank]

Bruh is this guy untouchable

People keep roach ing out

[gritty ridge]

Try skipping mihara do make them doodoo burst

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

Vesti?

[swift mango]

Yes

[fathom rock]

Not very sure about it but here my thought

Rth/blanc/rh/centi/jackal with lv7 quantum on jackal and centi will hit 2rl with feed thanks to jackal bug, rapi should be able to deal with them with rh having higher hp so that she don't indom but I am not sure whether blanc lasts till her burst or not

For scar team noah/biscuit/helmt/noise/rumani should do, helm heal, noise burst and biscuit should help tank a bit more but scar counter is broken

[covert lintel]

Noah destroyer

[swift mango]

Should I take it?

[near plank]

What's the first team?

[swift mango]

Okay I take it then.

[fathom rock]

Rrh/blanc/rh/centi quantum/jackal quantum against their moran

[covert lintel]

Not the exact team but here your team gimmick if you press that start battle

[fathom rock]

Quantum lv7 to be specific, I'd like some Insight on whether blanc lives till burst to begin with

[near plank]

Wouldn't helm burst kill me?

Or do we get blanc first and rrh solos

[fathom rock]

You'll indom before helm burst if blanc lives
They 2rl, that team I gave you gets fed to 2rl with lv7 quantums

[covert lintel]

Just need max ammo now, ez

[fathom rock]

All thanks to the bug, jackal procs 8 times instead of 4 here

[swift mango]

The problem is charge speed.

[umbral belfry]

but also line 1

[covert lintel]

Oh right, my cs all high

[fathom rock]

What am I looking at exactly

[covert lintel]

Even helmT is 22%

[swift mango]

Liar. While you have some high some doesn't have CS at all.

[gritty ridge]

Imagine if you will, an unprotected p5 on defense

[near plank]

Blanc should live

[covert lintel]

Who? Rapun and lapT has cs

[near plank]

We aren't in a cp deficit

[swift mango]

[near plank]

Looks promising

[fathom rock]

Make sure quantums are in place otherwise you get wiped

[near plank]

Ye

[gritty ridge]

[fathom rock]

Need to be more specific please

[gritty ridge]

An unprotected single burst

[covert lintel]

Just pray his helmT doesn't have a lot of ED that 2 shot is enough to kill rapipi

[gritty ridge]

Like solo b1/2/3 in p5

[fathom rock]

I take full blame for my pvp incompetence

[near plank]

With link no way

[shell hazel]

RH needs more hp than Rapi

if not then RH gets the indom probably

[fathom rock]

That would be nuts

[fathom rock]

Vigor on rh or no need?

[gritty ridge]

Oh, nihilister with cs is clip rl tier

[near plank]

I'll ad vigor my rapi is stacked

[gritty ridge]

Neat

[swift mango]

My Vesti gonna have 4 Ele soon.

And zero cs

[shell hazel]

check in a mock battle as vigor only applies on battle start

[covert lintel]

4ED 4crit?

[umbral belfry]

[near plank]

Didn't know I had level 9vigor

[umbral belfry]

not

[near plank]

Just passive leveling for 2years

[shell hazel]

the hp won't apply until you kick into a match

so if they have similar hp beforehand the vigor should increase RH

[near plank]

I'm on phone atm but c5 vs c1 with cube

C1 with cube wins

[covert lintel]

Just start it already and tweak when it somehow lose

[near plank]

Bruh already lost 3x on this new Def iteration

Praying for my downfall

[swift mango]

He will just ignore you if he lose.

[near plank]

This is retros attempt

[near plank]

I gave you like 2 chances

I'll give the others some first

Like all the previous times it look like it can work

I wanna see how it fails again

[covert lintel]

Only 3times
I tried for 1 whole weeks(2 attempt/day)

[twilit bay]

Are they using a really good team, or cp gap?

[swift mango]

It's basically what I suggest but replace Vesti with a weaker Rapipi.

But at this point I wanted to see RH indom against that team.

[near plank]

Cube check and cp check

Literal hours of asking for advice here

[covert lintel]

Rh vs moran?

[swift mango]

Moran would die but other units though.

[near plank]

I'll just send it in guaranteed rewards anyway

One last recording to upload

[fathom rock]

[near plank]

[shell hazel]

you can't be out of cp range it's like 15%, none of those are anywhere near that, so that is fine

[covert lintel]

If it's the same speed, wouldn't moran heal too?

[near plank]

Bro you cooked

[shell hazel]

we won?

[near plank]

I can finally rest

[fathom rock]

Glad it worked

[shell hazel]

match 3 ended immediately on burst 😄

[fathom rock]

Bay factor

[shell hazel]

match 2 their indom misfired

[swift mango]

Moran heal yes but she heal little.

[shell hazel]

you just deleted scarlet before she could indom it seems

[swift mango]

Hit rate upon hit rate.

[near plank]

Scarlet died before blanc can burst

From what it looked like

Cause scarlet had Lower hp

[shell hazel]

yeah with trina there is a small gap where scarlet is vulnerable

[near plank]

Now way Trina gets itlol

[covert lintel]

It's the same gimmick as my vid#pvp-arena message
Trina will always get indom

[near plank]

I didn't expect rapi to explode moran team like that though

[shell hazel]

what am I seeing here? what is the gimmick?

[fathom rock]

You need to roll hitrate on yourself first to have more accuracy hitting the stats you want/j

[covert lintel]

[shell hazel]

is it helm snipe?

[shell hazel]

her dmg/aoe is seriously good just not often run on def because she feeds like crazy

[fathom rock]

Bay shares damage taken for the team, moran tanks rapi initial burst hit, moran takes mroe dmg from rapi cuz ele weak and blanc rh giga buff her

[covert lintel]

Idk the right word for it

[shell hazel]

rapi aoe also hits all 5 opponents

[fathom rock]

Didn't even need rrh aoe there lmao

[shell hazel]

what is the concept?

[near plank]

Welp time for official thanks

@fathom rock and honorable mention @swift mango

[fathom rock]

[near plank]

[shell hazel]

looks like helm nuke the link?

9.936M

[near plank]

I will continue to bombard this sub with questions

Cause annoyingly enough merry sleeps

[fathom rock]

Glad to know some pvpers still sleep, the guy trying to overtake me isn't sleeping

[near plank]

Can't beat people who spam gems and people who don't sleep

[fathom rock]

[covert lintel]

Yes, usually helmT burst before blanc in 2.5rl team above, so blanc will mark whatever nikke remain

[shell hazel]

yeah it's a between B1 and B2 snipe basically

smart I like it 🙂

[near plank]

Why did 2 rl maiden fail

That's the first attempt

Same speedt

[shell hazel]

it can't be the same speed I think - we use RL for speed for ease of talking about it but it's actually in frames

and you can have variance of speeds even at similar RL values

[glad meteor]

Helm nuke is instant, xmaid has some delay if I’m not mistaken

[shell hazel]

also some stuff has travel time (think like cindy burst isn't instant) where Scarlet burst is

[fathom rock]

Doesn't helm nuke have some delay

[shell hazel]

think her initial shot feels pretty instant

[glad meteor]

Yeah

But i too lazy to download vid and check in photos

[near plank]

[shell hazel]

seems good against the scar comp anyway

just hope they don't run ros and nuke helm 😄

[glad meteor]

Good ole ros

[shell hazel]

no blanc though on that one 😛

rouge in the team is an interesting one

[glad meteor]

Cp pad

This guy is whale

My rouge is sr15 and mlb

[fathom rock]

That rouge was not necessary unless this deficit

[glad meteor]

That’s why she was necessary

[fathom rock]

It was deficit

[glad meteor]

Avoided it because rouge high cp

[fathom rock]

[glad meteor]

Dw to use liter since smg

Rh could possible get ros nuked pre burst

Noise rapu low power

[swift mango]

I watched it. It was thanks to bay's cover destroyed before Rapipi burst hit.

His Rapipi is just that strong.

This is 17% deficit.

[raven plover]

nah nothing to check, I havent hit nepnep yet

[glad meteor]

Moran weapon switch and target skip hit rh then helm

I guess it’s mechanic

[swift mango]

Somehow Vesti always got skipped, not just Moran but Nero also skip vesti...

[glad meteor]

Nero skip vesti would be interesting

[swift mango]

My bad it wasn't Vesti I was using against Nero...

But Emi...

[glad meteor]

have vid?

[swift mango]

My bad, Nero killed my other units by counter, no target skip.

[swift mango]

Moran also doesn't skip Emi in this video though.

Maybe it's only a thing that Moran skill Vesti....

[glad meteor]

She hits drake

The purple aura

I once heard it switches to highest atk. Forgot though

Usually just a niche interaction

[swift mango]

"Affects 1 enemy unit(s) with the highest remaining HP."

It's her burst that hit drake, as she had the most HP.

I put Vigor on her.

[lone sequoia]

weapon change target highest atk most of the time (if no taunt)

[swift mango]

Ah, you mean Moran hit drake? Not Nero? I see

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[glad meteor]

Nero hit blanc.

[swift mango]

It's just the meow so attracting.

[swift mango]

Yeah

[swift mango]

Yeah, the main reason I lost the match. Forgot that Drake would eat the Miranda Crit buff.

[swift mango]

My second biscuit ever. And SR15 Moran.

[fathom rock]

Kr guy keeps logging in every 30m like he is waiting for me to log out to hit me

[umbral belfry]

gonna need you to get 1 more purple

just 1 more

[minor egret]

I've been here before lol ended up faking to log out and it worked

[fathom rock]

I faked logout twice and it didn't work

[minor egret]

yeah there's a chance they're not even checking it and it's just you being paranoid

[atomic wolf]

raids shadow league

[silent terrace]

the new vesti is sss tier? owo

and how they have their team around her uvu

[summer copper]

isn't she expensive?

[raven plover]

4 atk, max s2, and a prayer

[twilit bay]

Is this good enough for Vesti?
I want to start saving rocks for the anniversary
+3 level on every piece

[raven plover]

[eager mountain]

3 lv shoes != 3 lv helmet

[twilit bay]

So I should have levelled up the helmet more and kept the legs at 0?

[eager mountain]

pve wise legs can be kept at 0 except for campaign units following a 3210 pattern, pvp wise its less straight forward
but a dps like her wants atk

[twilit bay]

I see makes sense. That's what I used to do level, everything but boots too 5

[heavy hearth]

Hello all, just looking for help to update my SP Arena teams. Vesti has 19 ammo

[eager mountain]

i dont advise to over invest on ol level except for campaign units and specific units
over sync 400 u will be able to tell cd is just credit

[haughty mortar]

Please improve my Defense team for Rookie.

My current defense team

[minor egret]

This is what I got for Vesti without rerolling her lines. Run out of books to level up her skill 2 because of solo raid, stuck at 8

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[minor egret]

Thanks!

I wish I was this lucky to get elemental lines in pve

[spare nimbus]

Will team 3 win?

[signal hull]

I got 3x CS lines, up to 13%CS, Idk if it's good or not for Vesti 😒

[haughty mortar]

Need hard assist for Rookie defense team. Is my current the best I can do? I have been upgrading my pvp nikke as of late.

I even added Rumani in my Synch 🙁

[rose oracle]

where is retro, he lied to me

[twilit bay]

Jackal, SBS, Helm, Blanc, Centi/Rumani
Will probably work at least some what better
Make sure that SBS has less hp than Jackal and Helm

[spare nimbus]

Or would this work better?

[haughty mortar]

Centi is slighly weaker than Moran. Does it matter?

[twilit bay]

what would the team's cp be?

[spare nimbus]

Help plz

[haughty mortar]

NM I forgot to swap Biscuit for Jackal. Jack has less HP than SBS. SBS has less HP than Helm.

I think I should swap SBS to P1

[twilit bay]

That team probably wont work then. Jackal would get blanc's indom

[haughty mortar]

Isn't that a good thing, considering Jack HP shares?

[twilit bay]

you want sbs to be invincible though, right? Not jackal

[haughty mortar]

Yeah

So what's the go to plan?

[twilit bay]

If you put sbs or blanc in p1 you'll get stunned by opponents using Siren

how much lower is jackal's hp, a lot?

Can also try this
Scar, Siren, Trina, Helm, Jackal
cp will probably be a lot lower though

[haughty mortar]

140K

Actually CP is higher than your suggested.

Coz HelmT is high CP and so is Siren.

So should I be investing in Jackal?

[twilit bay]

Yeah, that would be a good idea

[gritty ridge]

Its so nice

[crystal flicker]

VesTac

[graceful grotto]

damn those are some nice CS

[crystal flicker]

still need 1 more % tho

[keen vapor]

Where's attack

[final wedge]

whats CS for on Vesti?????

isnt she attacking like Cindy???

[keen vapor]

Her charge time is 2s

Definitely not burst gen

Waow someone slower than Alice

[crystal flicker]

You don't need attack if your enemies dies first

[keen vapor]

I don't get it

[gritty ridge]

Somebody should tell the mobile builder creator to let me put chargespeed on bready

[keen vapor]

She doesn't has a ⚡?

[gritty ridge]

Nope

Her chargespeed debuff doesnt happen until burst so she should gen like a normal sniper

[keen vapor]

Makes sense to me

[keen vapor]

@lusty gull what happened there?

[gritty ridge]

She has the same gen as ein so I can at least see her speed

Oh, that means this team is viable as an indom team

Just more investment heavy

[crystal flicker]

The faster I shoot, the faster they're die

[keen vapor]

But that's what attack is for as well

[gritty ridge]

How does 2.5rl noah work against 2rl nukes

[crystal flicker]

Are you saying I should get 4/4 ATK CS

[gritty ridge]

If I just had emi

[keen vapor]

Yes, just like Emilia

[gritty ridge]

Emi would fix my terrible cindy team

[keen vapor]

In my experience, too risky, don't

[gritty ridge]

Im mainly asking for CA viability

[crystal flicker]

Too high investment

[gritty ridge]

Yeah the cindy team there is kinda ridiculous

[crystal flicker]

2RL instant nuke, Noah lose
2RL timing nuke (Cindy) Noah win

[gritty ridge]

If mica reruns i wanna try this

[forest zodiac]

will this work?

[gritty ridge]

What is team 1

Did you just replace cindy with helm

[crystal flicker]

Choose 1, RH or Siren, and add more Clip RL to reach 2RL

[forest zodiac]

so I replace any of these two in t2 and add someone for burst gen?

[crystal flicker]

or just attack T3

Yeah using RH and Siren in same team is expensive for gen

[forest zodiac]

put t2 to t3 and attack?

what about t1?

[crystal flicker]

Make it 2RL tho for T2

[forest zodiac]

so don't put t2 to t3?

[crystal flicker]

T1 seems good coz HelmT should hit before Indom

Yeah 2RL Scarlet should set off before Noah (If theres no bug)

[forest zodiac]

@crystal flicker do I send it? (t2 just swapped siren for centi for 2rl)

[crystal flicker]

You should win if there's no bug

[swift mango]

But CA is basically synch 400.

[eager mountain]

well credit overflows and made ppl not hesitate to level up gear until actually hitting lv450ish lol

[crystal flicker]

How many ATK lines your Scarlet have

So close yet so far

[eager mountain]

tho, past sync400 the only real use of sync is spa and tower anyways
hard campaign at the end is just getting more cd for more level that contributes the two above

so sr malder might be better off to just level up all 3 atk gears at the cost of cd

[swift mango]

I'm 460, almost 461, what's next? Credit dried at 550?

[unique wagon]

Bro forgot UR

[eager mountain]

my brother in christ, i honestly couldnt bother cuz top3% is so ez but top100 requires average 601 sync in jp
that mode is hot garbage

[unique wagon]

Imgine playing in JP

[eager mountain]

sabotages comp experience for every mode unless mega whale lmfao

[crystal flicker]

He is JP

[unique wagon]

No hes not

[swift mango]

surely you would find a top 100 UR in JPN who would take on your low level.

[eager mountain]

im 621 already, just that im not leaving my curr union

[crystal flicker]

Are you sure

[unique wagon]

He told me hes not tho

[eager mountain]

i said im not japanese but im in jp server lmfao

[swift mango]

Nice decision, it's your choice.

[unique wagon]

See hes not Japanese

Or he lied

[eager mountain]

whether when it dries depends on how u level gear, how u use shops, and how u use govn't boxes, varies a lot

[swift mango]

Like I'm not CN, not even know CN language,but I used to play CN game with screen translation.

[crystal flicker]

He could be live in JP and not a Japanese

[unique wagon]

Hmm true

[swift mango]

everything for core dust thus far. I know credit with take a hit but not that much. I only level up key units gear.

[unique wagon]

He is probably then

[eager mountain]

well maybe ull end up learning and master chinese if u use no translate and just brutal guess like a baby does in learning a language

[unique wagon]

Tell that to Americans who cant speak English properly

[eager mountain]

if u trade all 30 event cds, use all excessive battle exp for cd, emptied all ur gear exp, use all govn't boxes for cd, then credit will go definity negative in a noticible rate until the it finally dries

[swift mango]

When I go under I will which to credit.

[eager mountain]

imagine speaking good english in us, instead of grammarly faulted english with endless modern bs slangs
that will make u sound like a granny lmfao

im certainly more of a fan of granny english tho

[swift mango]

why not granpa?

[swift mango]

so all good english speakers are gay?

[eager mountain]

granpa sounds weird cuz here hime is daddy and thus grapdpa implies rail

[swift mango]

Isn't he UK?

[eager mountain]

dont think so

[crystal flicker]

Hime is a dad

[swift mango]

I used them up though.

[swift mango]

🫃

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

[crystal flicker]

mpreg is disgusting

[swift mango]

I guess it's not working.

[strong hull]

Hows the team for Vestitu like?

[swift mango]

Vesti+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal

would be able to beat almost all Noah team.

[crystal flicker]

Welcome to 1.6RL cult

Can Vesti work alone without buff against other 2RL

I mean solo Kill

[swift mango]

no, not even core +7 50% atk Vesti could beat stall team without buff. At least a blanc buff is needed.

[strong hull]

[thin perch]

How’s Vesti looking now?

Did they fix her charge speed or not?

Is she the new Emilia?

[swift mango]

yeah, dmg wise.

[thin perch]

What OLs am I looking for?

Team comps?

[swift mango]

It's only because of current Jackal bug, team won't be 2rl without it.

[strong hull]

Oh?

Something happen with it?

I didnt know

[swift mango]

Jackal bugged for 1 month+ now. Her s1 trigger twice per time it trigger.

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Initially I did ignore it and lose some CA matches for that because I was Casual now, but incident 1 hour ago made me invested time into figure out the buggy thing.

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Darn them never fix Arena bug even after 1-2+months

[hollow lagoon]

I got curious nuff to find out what @swift mango ‘s profile pic was

[strong hull]

They currently fixing Solo Raid rn

[swift mango]

yeah, give away how little Arena mattered to them that the most important unit in arena, Jackal's bugged got ignored.

[hollow lagoon]

I love solo raid resets, more material always nice

Maybe I get to sr15 Nero Moran after all

[strong hull]

Just abuse it

[swift mango]

Everyone abuse it in their copy pasta Cindy team to 2rl these past 3 CA, only I ignored it and lose.

[strong hull]

[hollow lagoon]

Wow 150 blue 60 purple and 10 gold kit to sr10-15 Moran

But Nero took a single 10 purple

[swift mango]

my moran already sr15.

[hollow lagoon]

I joined the club

[strong hull]

I got viperT in 10 blue and 10 purple from 5 to 15

Gonna be Rosi for sure

[hollow lagoon]

Not as op as my vesti, 40 purple to sr5-15

I have only 10 purples left and 108 gold kits

[swift mango]

I guess they silently give us seasonal buff without telling us so. Currently seasonal buff, it SBS and Jackal double trigger on their s1. Just DOESNT tell us so because Arena player need to figure it out themself.

[strong hull]

[hollow lagoon]

[strong hull]

While us got reset SR score and have to make a 5h balding again

4 beast more like 4 bug

We have 2 now

[hybrid fox]

WHAT THE HELL

my nikkes failing me again @swift mango

[thin abyss]

Guys, is there a way to win mirror matches?
Like both using Scarlet-Blanc-Jackal team

[hybrid fox]

how do I get a winning team
first team noise AND NOAH both stunned somehow
2nd team b.soda died what a load of trash
3rd team lost

[swift mango]

Soda

[hybrid fox]

how both stunned i thought just one

[crystal flicker]

If you want you can try Siren Jackal Trina Scarlet Centi

[swift mango]

it's both ever since 3 months I ago I think

[hybrid fox]

😭 how do I get a winning team

[twilit bay]

You can try this maybe
2RL Scar Rosanna
Indom Rapi
3RL Cinderella

[hybrid fox]

indom rapi????

[swift mango]

scar+Trina+Rossana+Centi+Jackal team 1.

Noah+Biscuit/Vesti+Emi+RH+HelmT team 3.

[swift mango]

indom rapi to one shot link with a nuke doesn't work against, Biscuit

[twilit bay]

Oh, I was thinking of outlasting them with indom afterwards

Vesti would probably be a better idea, forgot about her

[swift mango]

That bet for investment fight. Idk if works but could try.

[twilit bay]

Would 3RL Cinderella work against 2RL Cinderella?
Works for me, but I'm not sure if it works in general

[swift mango]

Work if they have no Noah. Otherwise it's depending on case by case

[hybrid fox]

for 2nd team do I put in noise? (I am just making random bullcrap that might work)

[swift mango]

you could try

Rumani+Midhara+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindy (no quantum on all) against Cindy team.

[whole pawn]

@swift mango btw blood, whyd didn't u suggest rapuznel or noise in my def teams, although they are oled and dolled

[swift mango]

mainly because low CP. But if you def works then it work. If not then ask rail to cook for you.

[whole pawn]

i agree about noise, but rapuznel was just out of sync mb xd

[hybrid fox]

that's the 3rd team
I am just wrapping some 2nd team to fight

[solid gorge]

THE DEDICATION

[swift mango]

You have S.Anis or Vesti?

[hybrid fox]

s anis

[hybrid fox]

my 2nd team rn lost btw

[swift mango]

how about Emi?

[solid gorge]

ooops

[hybrid fox]

also yes

[swift mango]

moran?

[swift mango]

do you have ein?

Could use

noah+Ein+Emi+RH+HelmT for team 2.

or

Noise+Noah+ASS+Rapu+Crown

[hybrid fox]

but noah used for team 3?

rn

[swift mango]

use slow cindy with biscuit and rumani is fine too. for team 3.

if you wanted to put up another team 2 for this pic then...

Blanc+S.Anis+Rapu+siren+Rumani

[gritty ridge]

Wtf anchor

[fiery parcel]

@graceful grotto says vesti isnt pvp meta anymore? What happened?

[gritty ridge]

I think he was talking abt anne

[fiery parcel]

Ah ok ok

Phewwwww

[swift mango]

Vesti is strong bit not as strong as Keripo video made her out to be

[hybrid fox]

team 2 go like this and team 3 stay for now (I hope I dont get attacked bloody hell)

[fiery parcel]

These are my usual 3 teams, how do i make the noise/blanc team stronger?

Team noah biscuit cindy and scar tina jackal are usually winning, but i do want to build a good team for vesti

[graceful grotto]

xanne not vesti lol

[graceful grotto]

noise don't really go well with blanc, she heals but blanc indo someone so that someone don't need to heal

and noise will also tank alot of the dmg, which might cause blanc to indo noise instead

it would be better if noise goes with noah and biscuit goes with blanc instead

also your noah team and noise team are very siren-able

[swift mango]

We could try, Rapu+Crown+Siren+S.Anis+Rumani if you are willing to be adventurous.

[hybrid fox]

please no adventurous

[swift mango]

oh wait, Crown+Rapu+Rumani+Siren+S.Anis, then

[hybrid fox]

???? what i thought we settled on this blanc one

[gritty ridge]

She is one of my highest cp units yet I cant even use her with jackal cuz she steals link

[swift mango]

okay

[graceful grotto]

bulky manchor lmao

[swift mango]

press auto team

[gritty ridge]

Shes clearly my main dps

[swift mango]

i mean, his 3rd team doesnt have anything left to work on. Unless he had Rossana built. And it is low cp, just press Auto team for a 800+ CP would be better than this 600k cp.

[swift mango]

if you had rossana built maybe we could try

Anis/Viper/Drake+Vesti+Blanc+Rossana+LapT/Xmaiden/Drake/Noir

[tardy bone]

What is the best team for vestí on PVP?

[fiery parcel]

You made me have a panic attack just now lol

[fiery parcel]

How would you swap them?

[fiery parcel]

Unfortunately no.

Lemme send my updated roster

[covert lintel]

How? @swift mango

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-po-kung-fu-panda-no-collusion-gif-13925230

[fiery parcel]

Everyone else has no OL, so i probably have them (except emilia), but no investment e.g. moran, nero, ros

[swift mango]

Jackal double trigger bug.

[covert lintel]

His team can match my mach 30 speed because of bug

[shell hazel]

yeah the bugs are very annoying and SU haven't commented on them

[covert lintel]

Wth

[swift mango]

Jackal+Trina+HelmT+Emi+LapT and hope you are faster then.

[covert lintel]

@raven plover this surely 1rl
But get beaten up by bug

[shell hazel]

thoughts on this set? I win match 1 easy enough and I expected to lose 2, but match 3 looks like they upgraded their vesti some.
couple that with the jackal bugs and xmaiden bugs + lapt splash it's enough to kill my rapi before I can indom now
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NR9oRgg-vTo

[fiery parcel]

For defense what's the recommendations?

[swift mango]

Move Rapi out of p2, put a unlinked dummy there like Noir

[covert lintel]

I'll just use rosanna again cause his team 1 became hilarious

[swift mango]

Then could use Rossanna without Scarlet.

[covert lintel]

Rosanna&xmaid?

[swift mango]

SBS+Blanc+Rossanna+Centi+Jackal.

Moran+Trina+Helm+Emi+Cindy.

[shell hazel]

so jackal noir blanc rapi drakeT? losing centi kills my burst gen

I think it might make me too slow

[swift mango]

Bug*

[shell hazel]

they're fairly low feed though only blanc on their side

[fiery parcel]

I was thinking for attack:
Scar, blanc, redhood, centi, jackal
Noise, noah, biscuit, cindy, rumani?

Moran, trina, vesti, helmT, laplaceT?

I dont know how to cook lol

Moran needs to be built tho

She's 4/4/4 no OL

[swift mango]

Nvm

[shell hazel]

also wondering if I just use a hybrid stall comp on t2, it's noise/noah/helmT bursting on their side

I can 2RL my noah against their scarlet without HelmT

[swift mango]

You need to either kill or not trigger Rapu too.

[shell hazel]

she's tanky a bit due to the cores and sync and such, if you saw my replay she wasn't near to 30% really when I burst

would helm nuke the link if I ran this for t2?

is jackal a liability on this one?

[crystal flicker]

Who even use that

[swift mango]

That's because you have zero dps on that team and HelmT hit p5. Idk if you add dps.

[shell hazel]

just hunting ideas to beat my whales teams per the replay here #pvp-arena message

[spiral onyx]

So just a disclaimer for those who watched my videos and think Vesti is broken. If I had to rank her, I'd actually probably put her above SAnis and Ein but below Cindy and Emilia.

Vesti is a hybrid between Ein and Emilia. She is both AoE nuke and continual damage and her AoEs hit multiple targets (3 pre-burst, 5 post burst). But solo she isn't going to carry you like Emilia or Cindy will. Her AoE damage multiplier is meh and while her AoE damage is high, I think it's actually weaker than Scalter. So why is she so strong in my video?

Timing and RH buff. Vesti shoots her first shot after 2s, then immediately follows up with 3 rockets back to back. If you run her in a 2RL comp with a RH B1, that means about 2 of those 3 shots will be RH attack buffed. Then immediately after these 4 shots land, she launches her AoE nuke followed by another set of 4 shots. So you're effectively looking at P1-3 getting hit by 8 rockets plus a mini AoE nuke, with most of them RH buffed and the last 4 rockets also Full Burst buffed. That's a huge amount of damage in a very short period of time. If you run Emilia in the same team, that's also another 4 more rockets to those same P1-3 units. If you tried running Vesti in a slower comp or with charge speed so the rocket timings don't line up or without RH buff or without Emilia, you're likely not going to have such good results. Team comp matters, timing matters. But give Vesti the proper setup and she's quite the monster.

Also reposting again just cause I think it's funny

[swift mango]

Try either of these then.

[shell hazel]

I think my rapi dies at p1-p3 before I can b2 😄

[worthy sorrel]

it is
I've linked your old post a few times already in other subs. already part of vesti 💩post lore as far as i'm concerned

[swift mango]

Jackal biscuited won't share dmg.

[shell hazel]

ok cool, so yeah blanc at p2 might be the move (safe from xmaiden splash and lapt splash as well)

[swift mango]

Use this one if in doubt. Maiden and LapT contribute to most of the dmg to your Rapipi, not Vesti.

[shell hazel]

yes I just noted that appeared the better option, should trigger blanc immunity before the nukes land as well

[crystal flicker]

You're PvP resident, how you still don't have 2.4RL stall tho

[shell hazel]

me?

[crystal flicker]

Invested stall can cook that T2

[shell hazel]

I do have one, it's not fully 2.5RL yet my HelmT needs another CS roll

problem is my opponent is stronger as well, it performs well enough I think on an even footing but I am not sure it will hold up with the sync diff

I have this or the xmaiden version but my CS is like 14% + 2% adjutant if I use that on HelmT

I need to add CS to the helm of Helm

[grand plaza]

From what I can see she isn't the best pvp unit alone but probably the best duo of Blanc right now

[glad meteor]

Rapi died in link

[shell hazel]

yeah, blood had a better suggestion on that one

Keripo what rolls are you planning to get to on your vesti?

running 2RL with RH is almost impossible without Emi I think

[crystal flicker]

or just roll the 4% cs till black/blue

[shell hazel]

I want like 20% ish in the end I think

[crystal flicker]

Rolling and locking 2 lines seems expensive af

[shell hazel]

so lock atk and try and improve the helm to add CS is my goal, but could be a few rocks

[glad meteor]

Time to cope with xmica buffer

[grand plaza]

Everything about rocks are annoying

[shell hazel]

re-rolling the 4% CS would be annoying due to black line and OK ele roll 😄

[spiral onyx]

This is my timeline and screenshot at the time of burst for example using regular Vesti as the placeholder. When RH bursts, Emilia still has 3 ammo and Vesti has 4. When Vesti bursts, Emilia has 1 ammo and Vesti still has 4. So Vesti's AoE nuke lands alongside 1 Emilia AoE and her 4 remaining shots, plus I guess extra from Noah and Centi. Is highly concentrated burst damage

[crystal flicker]

I'll do quick ca cook

[shell hazel]

I skipped her

[fiery parcel]

Anybody cooking for me?

[crystal flicker]

It's risky

[shell hazel]

no indom control

[crystal flicker]

Most of the times attacker p1 just dies before indom

but yeah

RH dragging the speed down

[fathom rock]

You got 23 mins to pvp snipe

[crystal flicker]

Whos sniping 50 sync gap

[fathom rock]

Not me

[shell hazel]

it's not full maint is it? thought it was just SR going down

i'll prob just hit the whale again nearer reset, I've already secured SPA 1 due to time spent in chal 1 anyway

[glad meteor]

right

Thought that discord channel would pop up with reminder

[fathom rock]

90m maint it seems

[shell hazel]

seems to suggest you'll be kicked out at some point and need to sign back in but doesn't say down fully to me

we should get the maint kits then though

[swift mango]

I just realized that with my 1b team I don't need to grind buff for overclock anymore....

[shell hazel]

1b?

[swift mango]

1m

[shell hazel]

1m?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

confused what that means but it's early lol

1m cp?

[swift mango]

Yes...

[shell hazel]

yeah alright, I haven't needed to for a while

not since like 500K ish

just power on through with the hard mode stages

[swift mango]

Overclock stage is 800k. Can't skip

[shell hazel]

no cp deficit in there though - I do a certain set of overclock settings that means nothing is too crazy

this is just for basic 25 though

[swift mango]

Well, I just skip to boss.

[shell hazel]

for normal to collect buffs yes, I don't even bother doing that though

this is my set of mods I run

if the personnel one is bad (this time it's 2MG which is fine) then I take that off and bump up the shield/hp on the top ones instead

my team is about 700k now but I've been able to power through them like this since somewhere after 500K

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

every stage hard mode is +5 but they're not that hard

[fathom rock]

I just max out the stats at top, never pick anything rightmost and take the sniper b1 restriction, 2nd ele restriction and 1st core restriction, that way I don't have to swap around

[shell hazel]

yeah I don't swap much, personnel one aside, but I think at a certain point all of them are doable to +25 without much thought 🙂

[fathom rock]

I just quick battle oc25

[shell hazel]

if you have more than rec cp you can quick battle it right?

I don't which explains why I can't yet 😄

[forest zodiac]

could someone assist with this please?
from images - t1 wins t2 loses

[fathom rock]

I'm about to give jackal feed like it's a charity

[fathom rock]

Rrh blanc rh centi jackal against t3, give centi and jackal quantum lv7

And give rh vigor

Maint in 2 mins

[forest zodiac]

thanks, I'll try that

[shell hazel]

it's not going down fully for maint retro 😄

I don't think so anyway

[fathom rock]

better ready Than sorry

[fathom rock]

You were right lol

[shell hazel]

😛

[swift mango]

I would like to see a case where Bay cover isn't broken by Rapipi before her nuke hit.

[fathom rock]

Anyway here something to chew some popcorn on

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305197645501042730/1406042399918129182/SVID_20250816_012939_1.mp4?ex=68ae3587&is=68ace407&hm=970c105315903b880dc48943bd1f80cb80c477c8168217cbe19a4ab2af7ae06d&

[glad meteor]

Maint now?

[swift mango]

it's not that case.

[fathom rock]

Nah

[swift mango]

But this is nice though.

[shell hazel]

3-0!

that stall match went on a while lol - xmaiden throwing out some decent bugged damage 😄

you don't have trina retro? feel like trina is the move on the 2RL scar for the damage buff

[fathom rock]

I really dont

Wanted to use blanc but then not fast enough

[shell hazel]

Blood I'll send this later against the whale based on the teams I showed before

2rl noah/xmaiden should beat the scar

[swift mango]

no wait, this is weird, did their bay burst or not?

Is Rapipi nuke AoE now otherwise?

[shell hazel]

stall comp I want to see how it does against their pseudo-stall on t2

and then the rapi indom vs the vesti comp, I expect that biscuit will prevent jackal/blanc from dying and then rapi will indom but I need to check jackal links

[lusty gull]

fixed

[glad meteor]

bay makes it an aoe since her burst distributes it. But bay had cover and burst, it should’ve gone to cover but didn’t

[shell hazel]

rapi just too strong

[fathom rock]

Bay bursted tho

[glad meteor]

Looks like burst just before dmg distribution happened

[glad meteor]

should’ve either killed moran, or went to bay burst I feel like.

[shell hazel]

instead cut to black and all dead

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

It's barely 2rl....

[swift mango]

Yeah

It's 2rl mb

[swift mango]

I guess Rapipi is AoE now.

[shell hazel]

bay seems more of a liability than a help when I see her in teams here

[swift mango]

It's just Rapipi somehow bypass bay cover

Real weird shit happened there