pvp-arena

[odd lantern]

who needs help?

[fast jetty]

that huge quantum cubes... maybe that is true, maybe that is why they now can beat me vs days ago they couldn't cause they upgrade their cube and make it 2RL.

[fast jetty]

heard about this story in genshin... but powercrept just doom to happen anyways like always. inflation

[shell hazel]

some form of indom might be best against that 2RL bay/helm

vesti or rrh or similar

[fast jetty]

what's RRH? Rapi Redhood can do PVP?

[shell hazel]

yes

[fast jetty]

haven't pulled the new vesti yet

[swift mango]

The Yeshiro.

[shell hazel]

she feeds if they have jackal but no jackal = no problem

jackal | rrh | blanc | centi | flex clip SG/RL

[fast jetty]

looks like a 3RL right

i can try that tmr

[shell hazel]

you can get it to 2.5RL with some CS or HelmT is 2RL

2.5RL + feed

2RL (this can be too fast sometimes)

Xmaiden / DrakeT etc also work as Helm spot

[jagged mesa]

Has vesti burst generation info been confirmed yet or is it still pending review from s2 bug

[shell hazel]

we don't think there is an S2 bug

it looks like it's a bit below xmaiden and has a longer wind up time

[jagged mesa]

Is there a % CS threshold for 2rl or other xrl

[odd lantern]

i dont think they will nerf her now even if its a bug - it would make her pve performance worse

[jagged mesa]

Oh she's in nikke deck already

[shell hazel]

but not sure about work site yet, that is better for seeing exact timings and CS impact

her pve kind of sucks as it is tbh lol

[odd lantern]

she's like fire rosanna

[shell hazel]

they could do with buffing her pve perf without touching her pvp really she seems strong enough there

so make eunwha/emma buff vesti output more is the answer for me

as you'd not run those 3 in pvp anyway

[odd lantern]

i dont think they will buff her haha

i think vesti herself is like Ein's level - she's okay-ish, not really bad per se

[shell hazel]

no, so I will save my tickets for next banners, went all in for vesti

[odd lantern]

i was forced to pull her too lol - will still use her in raids

[shell hazel]

I think with the right lines she is better

watch keripo showcase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dURibo94u0g

[odd lantern]

yeah - but its expensive - as in not sure it's worth it to do such a nice OL for her

keripo just did 4x atk in that showcase

if you want to use her raids, and end up whaling for ele/cs/ammo on top of atk - it's pretty expensive for a Ein level character

[jagged mesa]

Her usage at deficit is pretty great afaik

[odd lantern]

campaign?

[jagged mesa]

Yeah

[odd lantern]

she good vs mobs?

good to know

[jagged mesa]

It's like playing with one unit at Blue cp lolol

I haven't pulled her yet myself (ffs) but I thought that would be the case and retro showcased it at high deficit

[shell hazel]

eh I'm already at like 40% deficit not sure she'll make that fly better 😄

[jagged mesa]

It's just straight up blue cp damage for her

[odd lantern]

yeah it makes sense coz all my units deal 1 damage at deficit, if you ignore enemy defence you deal normal damage

i wouldnt say blue cp though, her ATK is still dropped by deficit haha

[shell hazel]

oh I never knew you could move SPA teams around by dragging them 😄

shows how much I play SPA

[jagged mesa]

#questions message

[quick lake]

oh, deck has vesti alr

[odd lantern]

probably shows that you've noone to attack 🐳

[jagged mesa]

Ok fair hahaha

[shell hazel]

at least until this reshuffle nope

my +30 sync whale opponent really wants 1st

I'm enjoying denying them 😄

[odd lantern]

you're making him whale more - for the good of the game ofc

[shell hazel]

yep

[jagged mesa]

Also this
#questions message

[shell hazel]

i'll make them work for it

that is pretty good, aight is an option when I have my vesti properly built she's quite a bit lower on CP and needs all 4 OL atm

[odd lantern]

do you know how whaled is that vesti? i.e. OL lines

[shell hazel]

retro one? he showed the OL lines yesterday, they were good initial lines he had

[jagged mesa]

Yeah he answered what lines she has, but it's a bit hard to find on mobile right now

[shell hazel]

also MLB but retro is f2p (actual not our joke version of it)

[odd lantern]

like 4x atk ele? or not optimal (not fully built)?

[jagged mesa]

I do remember the skill build being 4/10/10 though

[odd lantern]

yeah no choice with skills, she needs every point of that haha

[shell hazel]

just search discord from: retro has: image

where retro is the auto selected one

4/10/10 is budget end-goal, 7/10/10, or 10/10/10 eventually for cp pad more

7/10/10 I suppose would be my main goal

[jagged mesa]

Oh nvm it was right below the previous link, Sr12, 47 ele 12 atk 10cs 69 ammo

Nothing crazy

[shell hazel]

am surprised that keripo only rolled atk

[odd lantern]

cool - i'm using her for chap32 then

[shell hazel]

@spiral onyx no ammo/cs on your vesti?

[jagged mesa]

I gotta keep pulling for her 😩 I think I'm in the neighbourhood of 0/165 on absolute now

[shell hazel]

just mileage bro seriously 😄

[jagged mesa]

Did get a random mihara OS yesterday though

[shell hazel]

get a copy and move on just draining all your tickets/gems

[jagged mesa]

I mean I'm going to drain the rest on sanis anyways

[shell hazel]

she should be fine on 1 dupe

[odd lantern]

atk is the minimum viable version - i'm sure he will get more later

[jagged mesa]

Only 9k left, doesn't matter which banner I pull on

[shell hazel]

yeah just wondering how much of a monster she'd be with some CS and ammo rolls with those atk ones

[jagged mesa]

Drain now ticket sanis, ticket now drain sanis, same same

And lose big time on bunnies RE and anniv

[shell hazel]

I have 50k ish gems left all I got

[jagged mesa]

I'm already cooked at this point

;/

[odd lantern]

i was really trying not to pull vesti

but i had to, i guess

[jagged mesa]

0/165 is insane on a 2% banner

[swift mango]

Kinda don't like the fact that she power creep my reiT.

[odd lantern]

yeah it is

usuaully if I get nothing after like 40 pulls, I'll log out and log in again

[shell hazel]

mihara OS is a good consolation prize though

[odd lantern]

reset my luck hahaha

at least makes it less annoying than missing the unit in 140 pulls or something (like I did with fire asuka)

[shell hazel]

I've had a streak of like 100 pulls with no SSR before

maybe more actually haha

[odd lantern]

yeah - statistics suck

only thing we can manage is our mood when the going gets tough

[shell hazel]

I'm just going to initial OL vesti and see what the rolls are like before I roll anything more

also lets me see what the mood is like for what rolls are good

[swift mango]

I'm trying hard to coping a use for my reiT right now.

[odd lantern]

fire rei?

[shell hazel]

new one

[odd lantern]

oh wind rei

[shell hazel]

yeah

also want the timings added to nikke work site for vesti so I can get the impact of what CS does for her

[swift mango]

A little faster to get the 2nd shot off ofc.

[odd lantern]

i think it wouldnt affect pvp much - she already kills everything hahaha.
but might be big impact for pve - cs + ammo

[shell hazel]

well depending who you run with it can sometimes speed you up a bit, but not always

sometimes more CS does nothing in certain teams

[swift mango]

I think my ReiT would still win against Vesti in an indom duel.

[odd lantern]

20% CS vesti - I bet will do quite a bit more in pve

probably also help in vesti mirror matches? where you kill the opponent a few frames earlier? haha

[swift mango]

Good copium at least.

[odd lantern]

sorry, I even forgot that wind rei exists

[shell hazel]

have to be careful with indom mirror as you can just lose by being a bit quicker 😄

[swift mango]

Even a bit quicker reiT would still win because no reload AR vs RL.

[shell hazel]

yeah vesti indom if at very similar speeds seems bad to me

[odd lantern]

imagine if SU releases a unit that clears buffs on atk - indom might be unplayable some day

[swift mango]

Idk if a linked ReiT could survive normal attack from Vesti though.

Depends on how invested that Vesti is ofc.

[shell hazel]

she'd survive my current one at least lol

I'll get 1/4 basic OL added today before reset as it's close. by the next CA I think I can maybe be 3/4 done

or 4/4 if we get double weekend again maybe as it's extra fodder

[odd lantern]

yes its a double weekend

you could also buy equipment xp if you wanted

[shell hazel]

I'll see, I really hurt for gear fodder all the time

which ones? I already wipe out a few extra times haha

[odd lantern]

the coop bones

[shell hazel]

oh I spent those already

[odd lantern]

good teamwork boxes - gives 1 day of mats

next CA should be after the next shop reset

[shell hazel]

I have 0

I get 10% usually so I get the 19000 or w/e you get

I spend exactly half each week

right now it's doll mat box + gear selector box then some leftover for gear xp

my thinking being I can keep farming kraken more if I have gear selectors

if I don't really need gear selctors anymore I'd pivot more into the gear xp but I think eventually that may be OK as well

[odd lantern]

you'll always need gear selectors imo - SU is just going to up the release rate from now on

two years from now there are probably 3 pilgrims for anni etc

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

She should survive unless they buffed Vesti with RH but that would require HelmT in the team for 2rl.

[shell hazel]

yeah that is the version that keripo ran in this tests but I don't think he'd run that in CA

[odd lantern]

he mentioned something about not enough rocks atm

[shell hazel]

I meant for the helmT 2RL RH version

helmT is needed elsewhere in CA I think

[odd lantern]

i dont think wind units can survive a 4x atk ele unbuffed vesti though

[near plank]

did anyone test besti cs line cutoff?

[crystal flicker]

I'll just slap her on Blanc SG comp

[crystal flicker]

Gatrix said 15, someone else said 20

[near plank]

@full dew

[full dew]

cutoff in where

[near plank]

cs goal for vesti

[full dew]

26% 4x black lines. There're no other goal

[near plank]

[odd lantern]

go big or go home

[shell hazel]

easy just 4 rocks

[full dew]

btw yours is around 5 SG (4 Vesti = 5 SG)

[near plank]

[shell hazel]

gatrix do you maintain the burst gen sheet?

[full dew]

at 2 RL you can say, she provides 5.85 x 3 = 17.55% burst gen

sometimes, like today (I update some new Nikkes )

[shell hazel]

I don't know where bastial gets their numbers from though at 2RL they think 11.7% with some CS

[full dew]

it's around 2.1 2.2 but well, you can say 2 RL for your sake

[crystal flicker]

What's the animation delay value?

[lusty gull]

yeah, same thing as emilia 25%, i will probably change this today

[shell hazel]

thanks 🙂

[near plank]

this is normal cs value?

[full dew]

this is 0% CS. 2nd shot happens 0.1s later than normal RL

[shell hazel]

it's quite impressive we get 4 shots off in 12 AR

[crystal flicker]

I don't understand, so she doesn't go into cover during 234?

I haven't pulled her lol

[full dew]

she has 2 animation delay.

• One is normal cover/uncover. Same as all weapons. 0.367s something
• One is between 2nd, 3rd, 4th shots. Total 3 shots = 1.08s instead of expected 1s

yes, she never covers once she starts shooting. Like Cinderella

[swift mango]

No

[shell hazel]

is this with a good CS value?

or just 0%?

[odd lantern]

He said 0%

[shell hazel]

wondering how far down we bring that with 15-20% CS

[swift mango]

He already said 0%. Just watch Hime video by checking her post history. The same 0%

[shell hazel]

is why I wanted the nikke.work version up so I can check it 🙂

[odd lantern]

you trying to get it to shoot 4 shots before b1 burst?

[crystal flicker]

Just do the frame/fps * 2s

[shell hazel]

just seeing what sort of CS I want to get to haha

[swift mango]

Even 3rd already almost not possible in 2rl. 4th is just nope.

[shell hazel]

example? I work with figures a bit but no expert 🙂

[crystal flicker]

I'm actually not sure as well about VesTac lol

[shell hazel]

guessing frame reduction works similarly to other RL?

[swift mango]

She surely power creep ReiT

[crystal flicker]

Since her 234 is 100% CS, that means she only doing the animation delay and shoot
And with this, CS stat only change her first shots

[shell hazel]

that makes sense

[swift mango]

CS stat is twice as effective on her 1st shot because 2seconds charge

[shell hazel]

but has no effect on 2-3-4

too much CS may not be entirely crucial on her but I am not sure how the CS works on subsequent shots

as she has to charge again right?

[full dew]

CS is good but if you really want to do sneaky stuff, go for ATK

[swift mango]

8-11% should be fine. Just enough for her to have more burst gen than reiT in 2rl as she powercrept her.

[jagged mesa]

@placid bloom officially 0/200 on absolute it's over

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[full dew]

15-20% on Vesti + Emila: Attacker in P1-2-3 will die
30-40% ATK on V+E: Supporters will die too

40%: Everything die

[shell hazel]

my bracket is too new for emi can't run the combo 🙁

[full dew]

oh, may be with Tempura + SR 15 doll Defender may survive

[spiral onyx]

I need to spend about 200 rocks to get the charge speed on Emilia required to even be able to use Vesti first lol

[spiral onyx]

Otherwise I can't use her for CA, not enough burst gen

[crystal flicker]

Let's do the myth
2sec * 18% CS = 1.6s
1.6s = 1.2RL

2nd salvo = 1.08 = 0.85RL + 1.2RL = 2.05RL
3rd salvo = 2.05RL + 0.85RL = 2.9RL

Is this wrong?

[full dew]

this timing is around 2.5 RL, may or may not enough for B2 depend on your CS on Emilia. 0% CS Vesti always delivers 4 shots before B2 anyway

[swift mango]

Because enemy doesn't have CS, not at all.

[shell hazel]

I'm not sure how the CS even works on Emi but not sure if we'll ever get a re-run on her

[spiral onyx]

I also don't usually min max my units in terms of DPS - that's way too many rocks to use when they are better used for making new RL units viable with charge speed or making sure new units are bare minimum PvE usable

There's not a single unit on my account with "ideal" rolls lol

[shell hazel]

you have high sync means you can cp pad well in SPA without the need to get fantastic rolls

like a basic CS roll is probably fine

[spiral onyx]

Instead, you will find a large roster of "usable" units, both PvP and PvE

[shell hazel]

it's a nice situation to be in I think - means you can just aim for good enough and prioritise the useful stats

[fathom rock]

Must be nice not having to cp pad

[swift mango]

You don't need ideals roll, max core already like 25% AtK more than 0lb after you including OL.

[spiral onyx]

That's also why you'll never see me at the top of co-op or SR leaderboards

[shell hazel]

I have to cp pad some of my stats a bit just to stay competitive in SPA

Drake is my 2nd highest CP unit but man her OL's suck a bit 😄

[spiral onyx]

I remember someone asking me why my Cindy lines weren't all black lines or something

[shell hazel]

I don't really think you need black lines all over to be competitive, counters are counters

[swift mango]

Well, SR need Ele and Ele is not as useful in Arena. Most the time, you only need 1-2 Ele in Arena.

To be SR top you need 100%+ on all dps.

[spiral onyx]

The answer is effectively:
Black lines don't matter when my Cindy team bursts an entire half RL before yours because all my units have 19%+ CS

[shell hazel]

if you had ideal lines and MLB I think even phase 10 or so is fine

black lines are just a small edge

my DrakeT overloads, you'll laugh

all initial OL only 😄

2nd highest CP unit in my roster even though I've not touched her rolls and someone like Helm chomps rocks for a living

I can probably get away with having two OK stat pad lines on most of the batteries as long as one of them is CS %, perfecting everyone is very hard indeed

[swift mango]

I'm so sad my Scarlet only got Ele dmg when I 3 rock her for either Ele or Crit dmg.

I would probably get Crit dmg when I 3 rock her for Crit dmg or ATK.

[shell hazel]

my scarlet needs so much help lmao

what would you roll? I badly need at least 2 atk lines

better image with the values at the top

[swift mango]

All of them need 1 rock roll.

Only the line 3 Ele could kinda be locked.

[shell hazel]

I guess i'm kind of balancing cp as well as stats here, so maybe full roll the chest to get something decent on line 3?

the helm is cp padding a fair bit

and on boots lock ele and gun for atk on line 1/2?

I don't necessarily need full 12/12 great lines but I use scar a lot and she'll probably be used for a while yet, even if she falls off on def she'll still probably be good on atk

[swift mango]

My pieces are

Ele ATK Crit (x2)
Ammo ATK Crit
🧱 Crit Ele.

So I either get Crit dmg or ATK her for the 🧱 slot. Plus 3 Ele that I'm not even roll for and only need 1.

[shell hazel]

is charge dmg completely useless on her?

[swift mango]

CS, charge dmg useless.
Hit rate useless arena.
Ele doesn't really matter much pass the first lien in arena.
Ammo more than 1 line = kinda bricked
DEF = copium that it helps her tank 1 more hit.

Crit dmg = useless without 4 Crit rate first.

Crit rate = rng

[shell hazel]

so what would an ideal scar look like roll wise?

I guess 4 x atk, 4 x crit, 1 x ammo, 1 x ele, 2 x flex?

[swift mango]

1 Ammo 1 Ele 2 Crit dmg 4 Crit 4atk

Ammo between 50 and 60%.

[shell hazel]

so any of the above on line 3 are at least sort of rollable into other things

with atk or crit being the best line 3's to have

I have 32 rocks I'll do a rolling session before next CA starts

[swift mango]

Good luck .

[shell hazel]

I want as much tries as possible

yeah I'll need it usually my rocks vanish into dust 😄

if I can improve and get atk on 2 pieces i'll settle there for a time, see how lethal my double buffed scar gets

I need last Cs roll on Helm to improve my stall a bit

but my scar is a liability on the last CA so many opponents I think beefed up to SR-15 and such

[spiral onyx]

[shell hazel]

hacks!

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-someone-to-ban-waiting-to-ban-banned-gif-25000313

is that on emi?

[shell hazel]

what happened to this 200 rocks prediction? 😄

[spiral onyx]

5.51 + 5.8 + 5.21 + 5.8 = 22.32

[shell hazel]

duplicates are summed first

so you have 12 + 6 + 5

[spiral onyx]

+2.12 = 24.44

[shell hazel]

summed and rounded

(5.8 + 5.8) = 11.6 = 12 rounded

[spiral onyx]

So I reach 25% with charge speed cube then?

[shell hazel]

5.51 = 6

5.21 = 5

I'd say yes that is 23%

[spiral onyx]

So just barely

[shell hazel]

nikke.work can help to check the CS values as it does all the rounding and things

[spiral onyx]

Nikke.works is ready for public use now?

[shell hazel]

adjutant will always round to 2%

https://nikke.work/ yeah I'd say so

can add jackal links as well, have to select that yourself

it's not perfect perfect but think it's good for fine tuning

currently nikke deck and nikke work sites disagree a bit on emi gen but I think work is probably the accurate one there and bas7ial said earlier they'd look at changing it

how many rocks was emi in the end feels like it was a lot less than 200 😄

[lusty gull]

i say i will update tvesti burst gen because it's the same idea as emilia 25%, not real 2rl but close enough

[shell hazel]

I prefer deck for quick team addition stuff

and work for checking timings, think both are useful

if I want to see if I dodge siren stun at b1/b2 etc deck can't do it but I don't think it needs to

bas7ial if I may, I don't know if you can re-think the doll tier stuff, usually I just click that button to quick add quantum in, now I keep accidentally adding the doll instead 😄

[spiral onyx]

Oh I apparently had blue lines already from before

So it was about 100 for the last 2 lines

[shell hazel]

well sounds like your vesti would be ready for use now maybe?

[spiral onyx]

This website is not mobile friendly at all lol

[shell hazel]

no it really isn't

[spiral onyx]

But looks like the bottleneck is Emilia

[shell hazel]

they didn't add the new vesti last I checked yet

unless they have now

[spiral onyx]

I don't think Vesti will change things

So there's no real value to adding charge speed to Vesti

[shell hazel]

I'm kind of on the same idea, that more CS on vesti doesn't necessarily help her that much

[lusty gull]

it happens to me too, maybe i will improve this

[crimson escarp]

best 3 teams for pvp rn I have all nikkes

[shell hazel]

quantum at the top followed by dolls followed by the rest would work as a temp measure

ok my first OL has not gone well lmao

@fathom rock gimme some of that luck sir please

[fathom rock]

ol the vest and behold

[shell hazel]

need about 2 days to do it

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

that one will def need some rocks then

can only get better from there

maybe my luck will come in the form of SR-5 to SR-15 upgrade later on?

[fathom rock]

Maybe

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

using my sr selector on rl doll later I may have enough materials to have a try at SR-15 but not 100%

[high stream]

Vesti PVP investiment and build?

[shell hazel]

[fathom rock]

Same as pve but your burst mats low

[high stream]

[fathom rock]

4-7/10/10
Sr5-15
4 attack
Some amme
Cs and elem

[high stream]

I hate this. I have 6k and 7K blue books, 5K and 4K purple. 1.2K yellow .. 20 burst books

This isnt right.

[fathom rock]

Use your boxes on yellow

[onyx scaffold]

Burst is lv8 min to hit all 5 pos iirc

[high stream]

Doable, I guess

[high stream]

Only yellow boxes i have is for S1, S2 books

[strange linden]

the hell was that man 💀

[shell hazel]

better than my DEF roll but on 3 bits? ;D

[strange linden]

same shit, both of them you'll have to reroll nonetheless

[shell hazel]

yup

[hollow lagoon]

Bro going for max doll?

Bro not saving for anni and new years os/pilgrim?

[shell hazel]

no I can get more by then it's fine 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not so confident

[shell hazel]

new units always take a while to build

will take a lot to power creep siren/crown/rapi out of my core team

I think I'm still largely going to be gated by cp/deficit on my hard mode pushing anyway

fingers crossed for you on the final in a bit btw 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

What final bit

[shell hazel]

final of CA

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

[shell hazel]

smash em

[hollow lagoon]

I wanna win but my chances are meh

[shell hazel]

you think?

[hollow lagoon]

2b1 on their team could be bad if they get 2nd burst cycle

And that’s the deciding team

[shell hazel]

t1 - you could win, kill rumani quick and then ros kills scar = gg

[hollow lagoon]

Unless my sbs ends their stall some how

[hollow lagoon]

possible but hard to say

[shell hazel]

t2 - you could win here I think, RH buffed SBS with the bug, it's a lot of dps output

[hollow lagoon]

We’lll see

[shell hazel]

t3 - not sure similar speed stall vs their indom, you could take this I think you got a reasonable chance to

[hollow lagoon]

I do wanna kill darknet tho it’s like killing sixo

[shell hazel]

t4 - I prefer yours here, xmaiden is decent damage amp and has good personal damage once noahs both end

[hollow lagoon]

That’s what I think

[shell hazel]

t5 - I like your odds here as well jackal linked Scar means you should burst without issue doubt they can kill you

[hollow lagoon]

But I have lost to weird 2b1 comps against a biscuit stall

[shell hazel]

they probably just kill themselves on scar counters

[hollow lagoon]

Problem with jackal linked scar is rosana

[shell hazel]

yeah the link does get removed but it's not instant

[hollow lagoon]

That’s what I’m praying on

[shell hazel]

trina leaves immune scar still

don't think that gets taken away

[hollow lagoon]

First wave of sg hits will still feed

[shell hazel]

your siren runs a bit of interference with stun

the issue might be that you actually kill someone on their team and trigger ros to kill your scar

but bsoda is SR-15

[hollow lagoon]

That is very possible

But my scar is also 1 atk roll only

[shell hazel]

this opponent is weird btw they are low commander level but lots of max dolls

[hollow lagoon]

Hax

[shell hazel]

doesn't seem like whale but also maybe buying doll mats?

as you can do that

[onyx scaffold]

Low level just means they dont push campaign and claim outpost often

[hollow lagoon]

I buy them I don’t have that many max dolls

[onyx scaffold]

CA bracket groups close servers

[shell hazel]

it's much later start than us

I'm 23450 ish they're like 25000 ish

[hollow lagoon]

They missed Cinderella banner

[shell hazel]

it's rare to see sub 400 commander levels make it to top 8 simply based on doll invest and such

[lone rapids]

do u guys have any def recommendations to counter the new vesti

[shell hazel]

slower indom should win, blanc ideally at p4

otherwise ros could win it

if it's rookie and you got invested ros you could try that for science

[lone rapids]

for sp

if blanc at p4 no need biscuit?

[tropic summit]

yeah that was funny, rather scary they reached 2RL B2 even with sacc on my side, was a few milliseconds after i killed scarlet and emi via rosanna B1

[shell hazel]

you could skip it and attack the other teams

depends what they have

you'd have to check the speeds, you just want to be a little slower than they are, vesti is not good in an indom war

[shell hazel]

the jackal bug is throwing out the indom jackal fights a fair bit I think

[lone rapids]

what if the comp they use is
jackal,vesti,blanc,rh,rumani

[shell hazel]

though unless you disrupt the health of the other units, jackal link should assure the right things get indom

[spiral onyx]

Ok, so looks like my new CA team with Vesti will work just fine

[lone rapids]

i have rossana invested but it will instead kill rh ig

[tropic summit]

no healing effects (self heal, specific target heal), no link breakers (rosanna) generally should ensure indom target

[hollow lagoon]

Rosana target 2 attacker

[shell hazel]

this

[tropic summit]

either that or fighting 61+ opponent and having to sacrifice your link to even reach B3

[lone rapids]

ah

[shell hazel]

scar trina ros centi/xmaiden jackal

should be quick enough and lethal enough

if not then plan an indom around the speed of the one you sent, or send what the other teams are as they could be easier

you don't have to win all 3 after all 😛

[tropic summit]

lvl 941 lmao

[shell hazel]

whats the max actual f2p level? 600 ish?

[hollow lagoon]

941 wut

[onyx scaffold]

But u will meet SG

[shell hazel]

you can cap out depending on dupes

[onyx scaffold]

621+

[tropic summit]

do you even need vesti, look at opponent HP even before you B1

[shell hazel]

it's why 💳 wins

[lone rapids]

other teams are
noah noise cindy helm bisc
scar trina centi anis siren

[tropic summit]

p3 near dead even before you B1

[shell hazel]

we're lighting candles for them

[hollow lagoon]

Scar Trina just do a 2rl Noah on it

[shell hazel]

yeah fair, 2RL Noah/Cindy the scar then

[hollow lagoon]

If ur team and enough cs u can avoid siren stun

[shell hazel]

p1 noise is safe from siren stun as is your b2 if you have enough CS (11% on all batteries)

[hollow lagoon]

Or just bait it out with another p1

[lone rapids]

my vesti isn't very invested yet so i want some def comp that would make it harder for vesti users alr

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait Noah taunt

[lone rapids]

i also use siren for def comp with scar nuke

and sanis with noah+moran to counter cindy comps

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel my 0star Mari/Rei might bite me later

[onyx scaffold]

Defending?

[lone rapids]

ye

[hollow lagoon]

If rest of my server pulled them to mlb that is

[shell hazel]

defence is basically impossible if they have similar invest and they know what they're doing

[onyx scaffold]

I would use cindy to nuke your scar and use scar to handle your moran sanis

[shell hazel]

doubt

[lone rapids]

ye right

[shell hazel]

more units will come along in time, rei/mari etc won't stay relevant forever

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but my level cap

[onyx scaffold]

No unit stays forever

[hollow lagoon]

My current cap is 822 so it seems

[spiral onyx]

Why do you think their HP is like that lol

[shell hazel]

not 100% but this may beat their vesti indom, jackal link on your side should be jackal/rapi/drakeT

your goal here is just be a bit slower than they are, rapi giga feeds them

[spiral onyx]

Hint: See Vesti's S1 and S2

[shell hazel]

so you feed them to be quicker than you are, whilst you should still be quick enough to indom behind them on rapi

[lone rapids]

ok appreciate it tnx

[shell hazel]

if you send please record 🙂

or wait for a better idea from someone else haha

[hollow lagoon]

If ur rapi ammo is bad and u choke on a reload it could be bad

[spiral onyx]

Also, I just had to make this edit lol

[shell hazel]

it would have to be 0 ammo OL rolls to be that bad

[lone rapids]

can't test it no one use vesti on my rookie yet

[shell hazel]

in SPA rapi fires at 30 rounds per second, at 300 that is 10 seconds of firing excl wind up time

[hollow lagoon]

Oh boi

[shell hazel]

so if you got 600 ammo you can shoot for 20 seconds straight, enough to burst/indom/not reload

my rapi not perfect ammo rolls has almost 900 ammo still

[hollow lagoon]

My rapi is 2ele 2 atk

[lone rapids]

my rapi also 900 ammo

[shell hazel]

kuwon is the indom master 🙂

what would you send against this sir?

[placid bloom]

If you’re hitting into Vesti your Jackal links need to be p1-3 or you can have incorrect indom since Blanc casts after Vesti 3rd shot

P3 Blanc can die before casting

[shell hazel]

I suggested this so blanc p4 but welcome any suggestions you have

maybe swap draket/xmaiden

assuming then link is 1-2-3

[spiral onyx]

I've actually lost every single Blanc vs Blanc fight in CA

[shell hazel]

you might be too quick with CS on indom 😄

[spiral onyx]

My teams are too fast, my Blanc invuln always wears off first

[placid bloom]

I mean you are taking full damage basically on p1-3 so you can die anyway if they hit hard enough

[shell hazel]

if you got alt suggestions I'm interested as well!

[placid bloom]

Probably need good tempering

[shell hazel]

yeah slower indom normally wins in the indom war

[placid bloom]

I still think non-wind should survive Vesti 4 shot

[hollow lagoon]

Sigh only 1 charge speed roll on vesti

[shell hazel]

I don't think you need much CS tbh

[placid bloom]

But it will be invest dependent whether it’s winnable

[shell hazel]

my impression is more damage > CS

CS only matters on initial charge, the additional shots don't use it

[hollow lagoon]

I got a lot of charge damage rolls

[shell hazel]

charge damage + atk seems potentially the way to go

[hollow lagoon]

But only 1 atk

[shell hazel]

with some ammo

think atk is her core stat though

[nimble swan]

May I ask what else they run as 2 other teams if they run jackal with blanc? Just the archetypes are enough

[shell hazel]

they did post em hold on

[hollow lagoon]

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

black line 1!

brb gotta go eat some lunch 🙂

[nimble swan]

thanx!

oh jackel-less scar, i see

i don't really like that tbh

[quick lake]

Yeah, likely only needs 1-2cs lines

[hollow lagoon]

Black line 1 is rough

I know I prob should roll over it but like

[quick lake]

yeah, charge dmg is useless

[nimble swan]

this is exactly what i had on my scar, but now when i'm thinking how to roll other atk lines it's just all a huge headache

is this vesti though?

[hollow lagoon]

Tis vesti

I think she procs damage on hit so charge dmg is less important?

Yep roll over it is

Need atk

And I have no atk

[nimble swan]

just let it go

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t no rocks

Stuck with it

Man charge damage is such a meme stat when most charge units proc damage now days

Like only redhood and Alice can use it proper

On one hand it prevents people from rapid firing snipers and rls for damage, on the other it’s makes the stat useless

[frank zephyr]

How does my friend stop getting farmed by this dude in Rookie? They trade back and forth every day but he's wondering if there is a counter other than just bumping up to sync 201 (which he's holding until he's hard walled in campaign).

[nimble swan]

yeah the preventing rapid firing part is particularly irritating

[nimble swan]

you can't know what the guy uses when attacks, but based on the synchro it might be the same thing

[frank zephyr]

Forgot to mention he started to lose after the guy bumped his SBS to 160 . Pretty sure his team is just too slow and he's not countering Jackal here

So he just needs a better offense team so they can continue to farm each other

[nimble swan]

ok then it's understandable

[rain meteor]

What would be a good team against Scarlet, Tina, Lil Mermaid, T. Helm, and Jackal? I tried a Noah team, but she always gets stunned

[nimble swan]

would this team have the cp?

you could put biscuit in p2

[fickle swift]

Hello can you guys help me build a good defend teams I've been losing too many time lately

[frank zephyr]

That's basically what he's using, but Cinderella left. I'll just tell him to push campaign and then snort some core dust up to 201 or deal with being rank 2

[placid bloom]

you need to learn self control and not get baited by permanent pool pullers

I only pulled because I have enough gems stocked to afford the loss

and stopped when it didn't feel worth

[nimble swan]

It's more than likely a penalty issue then. If the CP difference is more 15.4% you get penalized and the penalty increases quite steeply.
That guy has 2x SR15 units in his team so your friend would need to catch up, maybe SR15 Cindy next.
But I see Cindy doesn't have a doll

[frank zephyr]

My friend is the one with 20 levels over the other guy so there is no CP penalty to his disadvantage here. I'll get him to level SR dolls though if he got anything useful

[nimble swan]

And that Cindy team is losing to that defense team you showed?

[frank zephyr]

Yeah, because he's not countering the shotgun targeting P5 and he loses a unit and therefore burst gen. Actually, now that I think of it, he should be putting one of his Jackal links on P5 and that should solve the issue since Biscuit is covering the P1 defender

[shell hazel]

cindy shouldn't be left btw

p1 cindy = bad pretty much all the time

you only do that if you're running her there on purpose and you know why

[nimble swan]

In the order I posted there's no way that team would lose

[shell hazel]

p2 cindy also bad

cindy p3/p4/p5 is better

[quick lake]

Recently a lot more interesting P1 Cindy tech. Quite reliable as well

[shell hazel]

but you have to know what you're doing to use it

if you just throw cindy at p1 you're just speeding up your opponent without a plan

[crystal flicker]

P1 Cindy aint doin anything against Scarlet

[quick lake]

Same team, kills standard 2rl Scar and 2rl Cindy

[frank zephyr]

Yeah I already made him swap before I even posted here

[quick lake]

Cindy Rumani Mihara Blanc Biscuit
more mihara killinh thou

Anyways, for peeps thinking of investing Vesti, 1-2 cs lines are enough imo. CN doesnt recommend any cs lines

[shell hazel]

yeah truly I think she won't need anything crazy, and may not be insanely expensive to build as you can just go atk/bit of ele/bit of ammo

so could maybe even get away with just 2 good lines per piece

I think it's because she lands her initial volley in by just after 2RL anyway even without CS

[nimble swan]

SBS indom will become Vesti indom in CA?

[shell hazel]

I'd say yes

which is good for me because my SBS isn't that built 😄

[nimble swan]

i was trying hard for ELE bc of kraken but ended up with 4x atk and 2x ELE

[shell hazel]

can kraken S9 without her at all though

[nimble swan]

i'm not sure

[shell hazel]

def can

also s9 is whatever to me, a title or something

[nimble swan]

with 900 synchro just slam in RRH

[shell hazel]

once my asuka W built a bit I can prob s9

[nimble swan]

for me Wasuka is the one that's mvp in kraken team

[shell hazel]

my best is just into s8

[nimble swan]

what's your synchro though?

[shell hazel]

but I think not really a reason to change vesti rolls anyway

374 atm

people can s9 before me my team is not optimal

crown siren rrh sbs helmt

[nimble swan]

it does the job at least

i can only s7 but i'm just 311

[shell hazel]

yes s7 is easy now really, 8 still a bit hit and miss but rewards stop at 7 anyway

[nimble swan]

one day would perfect SBS

and then a new wind meta unit will arive, i wouldn't be surprised based on my luck lol

[shell hazel]

honestly by 400 or w/e I think I can s9 with Asuka W built instead of SBS in the same team

Rapi still pumps out a lot of dps

[nimble swan]

yeah i saw you have a lot of ammo

[shell hazel]

it can get higher surely

[hollow lagoon]

My 2 atk and 1 ele sbs gets kraken 8 just fine

[mystic rain]

can s9 kraken as early as 321

[crystal flicker]

Guess no VesTac for me lol

[shell hazel]

yeah possible but needs right comp

[nimble swan]

sure , you are like 470 synchro or what it was?

[mystic rain]

maybe even lower if ur siren sbs asukaW are just godrolled

[shell hazel]

they cap at 400 right?

[hollow lagoon]

Capped to 400

[nimble swan]

i forgot sorry

[crystal flicker]

Should I

[shell hazel]

it's all your mileage

[hollow lagoon]

My asuka w is untouched, im expecting more wind release before wind raid

[shell hazel]

do you need s.anis or xanne?

[mystic rain]

dont think wind is gonna get another powercreep unit to replace asukaW anytime soon

[nimble swan]

i'm also thining there will be a new wind meta fr

[mystic rain]

esp since asukaW is basically equal to sbs in the same team with similar investments

[hollow lagoon]

Not everyone have asuka w

[jagged mesa]

😔

[nimble swan]

powercreep not but about similar strength is possible imo

[mystic rain]

i mean sbs hypercarry is also a thing now

[hollow lagoon]

Similar strength is all I need

[mystic rain]

with mana/helmt/mmast

can get similar dmg numbers to asukaW team

[hollow lagoon]

Tbh if I just roll my sbs better

[shell hazel]

but the rocks!

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah

That’s the thing if I’m already s8 why bother

[shell hazel]

I don't care if I get kraken s9 all that much tbh

[mystic rain]

can def s9 even without asukaW with the current meta

[hollow lagoon]

Only title I want is mirror container but my Ein is trash tier

And so is my Xmaiden

[placid bloom]

Kraken s9 is not heavy damage req

doable at 361 even with mid OL

[hollow lagoon]

Let me see if I can rapi it lol

[placid bloom]

you only need strong OL if you trying to do it at 341

[onyx scaffold]

no if u want to make pvp harder

[crystal flicker]

What harder

[quick lake]

Pray to get vesti from sept molds

[onyx scaffold]

worst: new year selector

[mystic rain]

im only sync 311 and i need 1b more to clear s9 with crown sbs siren thelm mmast

[nimble swan]

i'm exactly 311 too

[mystic rain]

and now im trynna see if mana can bump that to replace thelm

gonna be fun

[nimble swan]

i didn't bother building mana that much

or using her

but if you make it like that, that's fun for sure

[mystic rain]

im building mana for pvp so it works out for me

[nimble swan]

win - win

[hollow lagoon]

Nope but could be done just need slightly better sbs only 1 ele is too rough

[mystic rain]

like i already know if i build asukaW i can clear s9 soon

[shell hazel]

what is s9 needed?

[mystic rain]

but i havent exactly seen mana for early s9 clear so thats my goal rn

[hollow lagoon]

I’m like 2/5 they way through s9

[shell hazel]

[mystic rain]

5.3b something

[shell hazel]

ash take notes and mileage

[hollow lagoon]

Oh boi

[quick lake]

commitment

[placid bloom]

mileage perm pool units

[onyx scaffold]

wtf u bought DUPE?

[crystal flicker]

I did the same for HelmT and other PvP Nikke(s) tho

[shell hazel]

oh it was a dupe?

you don't need to dupe her I think, not if you're low on resources especially

[crystal flicker]

Got this from her banner

[shell hazel]

oh kinda worth tbh

[onyx scaffold]

dupe is for SpA cp

in CA, she can kill anything without dupe lel

[jagged mesa]

think i gotta ticket vesti

at this point

[placid bloom]

good luck getting RE chars

[jagged mesa]

im already screwed, but i think id take my chances rolling on the upcoming banners

[mystic rain]

RE will be csm level units

[jagged mesa]

across 3 accounts im 0 / 300-350 on absolute

[mystic rain]

trust

[onyx scaffold]

1 copy then dip

[jagged mesa]

literally not a single absolute in 300-350 pulls

[placid bloom]

I can count the number of people in my SPA that have Vesti with my fingers so even if I wait until NY selector to get her it's not an issue

[clear wave]

Gimme some

[placid bloom]

cuz nobody else is pulling her

[nimble swan]

you tried all 3 banners?

[placid bloom]

I didn't pull Trina on release and it honestly wasn't a big deal

just get eventually

rush is the path to failure as f2p

[mystic rain]

i remember i skipped on maids banner cuz i was saving for eva 2.0

months later i still dont have anchor so my maids duo is still bricked

[placid bloom]

[mystic rain]

black snake clear was a pain

and now im stuck on ziz as well

[keen vapor]

Why you wasting 90k on standard banner units

[mystic rain]

vesti should solve ziz but i still cant use maids duo for raid

[placid bloom]

it just means you didn't want them enough

[nimble swan]

I have anchor and ziz kills her at 2nd ulti, cause she's only R15

[placid bloom]

I couldn't pull Vesti cuz I think she's not sexy

and the game knows so they didn't give me her

punished for pulling unsexy char

[mystic rain]

i did get K and arcana from molds and from advanced recruit so thats something

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

I pulled for vesti didn’t get a lot of copies

We we all know what I got in between lol

[mystic rain]

belorta

[keen vapor]

Why are you guys pulling

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t vesti but honestly not bad

[crystal flicker]

I finally got 100% Pilgrims lol

[placid bloom]

I wish I had 100% pilgrim

game too hard

[hollow lagoon]

How do u 100% pilgrim

[keen vapor]

Wish||list||

[crystal flicker]

Just pull

[hollow lagoon]

I wish list but my highest pilgrim that’s not Noah is still core 6

[placid bloom]

pull Harran from pilgrim mold, that's how you get the bad pilgrim

[hollow lagoon]

Got that yep

[keen vapor]

And you think that's low?

[hollow lagoon]

100% means max all no? In that context I’m not even full mlb

That core 6 Cinderella is artificial as hell because I never took her off wishlist

[keen vapor]

100 is every Pilgrim, not max core

[hollow lagoon]

[crystal flicker]

Keripo should have 100% core tho

[hollow lagoon]

Oh in that case with harran I’m indeed 100%

[placid bloom]

well Idk if he C7 SDoro

maybe someone can spy

[keen vapor]

[hollow lagoon]

Randomly got 3 harran in the span of 2 months

Mold, random pull, random pull

First one was mold I think

But now game’s shifting gear to Isabel

[mystic rain]

im cindyless after 8 months its joever

but hey my rapi is core 1 for a f2p

4 chances to get cindy

[hollow lagoon]

I like Cindy but she no good in high deficit unless electric weak

[mystic rain]

yea i need her for raid teams and pvp

[hollow lagoon]

My shining waifu that I started the game with, which ain’t even my first pilgrim

[mystic rain]

and also for campaign electric weak stages

and for MC as well

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz game gave me lewd rapunzel first

Like my literal first hand full of ssr was 2x rapunzel

I only stopped pulling rapunzel once pilgrim wishlist got implemented

She’s already core 2

[loud sonnet]

Should I take it?

For vesti TU

[hollow lagoon]

Line 3 ammo has more potential tbh

If u wanna invest more in the future

[real abyss]

you can just reset for higher stats if you switch

[shell hazel]

I ran her a lot of the time haha 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Me too

[shell hazel]

her or RH depending what I was doing. cindy does fine in anything

elec weak or not she still does good, just not good on the stages where you need to burst quick or need RH buff for the boss

my team is usually crown siren rrh cindy/rh helmt

[hollow lagoon]

Well I copium roll her into highest cp of my harem

So her problems become less of a problem

Literal 30k over redhood

[swift mango]

I randomly got 1 harran in the span of 18 months.

[hollow lagoon]

Im tempted to invest asuka w

[shell hazel]

yeah my red hood has fallen behind as I have c1 cindy and lb0 rh

[hollow lagoon]

But I also wanna roll my rapi better, choices choices

[shell hazel]

some cp diff now

rocks and gear fodder my two biggest issues, well besides battle data which is the only reason I can't gain 2 levels today 😛

[hollow lagoon]

219k Cindy ve 189k Redhood

I have a lot of empty lines on units

[shell hazel]

153k vs 129k for me in the same order

[hollow lagoon]

I should fix that

My hood has 3 ele tho

[shell hazel]

MLB RH is +5.6K cp

[hollow lagoon]

My highest ele characters are 3 rolls

[shell hazel]

I rolled this pretty early and it's not perfect by any means

[hollow lagoon]

Better than mine

By a mile

[shell hazel]

yeah I won't touch it again I think

RH was my first major rock investment unit

[hollow lagoon]

My major rock investment was crown I though atk rolls would increase her buff potency

oh how wrong I was

[shell hazel]

she still spits out decent damage

not amazing

but if you got some atk rolls she's alright 🙂

i cp pad my crown a bit

[swift mango]

I waste 100-200 rock on her just to cp pad and ended up giving up.

[hollow lagoon]

My second rock investments is rapi to get her into 2 ele 2 atk

[swift mango]

my rapipi was pretty cheap and high cp. only 2 ele though.

[hollow lagoon]

And my 3 rd is siren which ended up into a 4 crit rate siren, but only 1 atk, but I’ll take it

[shell hazel]

I can pad the chest a bit (lol)

right zant bring me those credit cases

[hollow lagoon]

2 ele is good enough for me

Holy crap

[shell hazel]

5-0 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Oh shit I won

[shell hazel]

not only won, you slaughtered em

[shell hazel]

thanks for the revenge sir

grats

[hollow lagoon]

I changed title to Rapunzel’s Believer

That’s how I won

[shell hazel]

I thought you'd have a good shot on it

when I was talking through the teams earlier

t1 prob went like I said, kill rumani and then ros kills scar gg

t2 rh buffed sbs bug won as I thought 😄

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

t3 they had no rh or I think you'd lose it, but as it happens all lived lol

with basically full hp

[hollow lagoon]

Yep t1 their rumani and anis unexisted

[shell hazel]

helm super heal

t4 like I thought your cindy comp just better after noah ends

[shell hazel]

t5 you clutched a bit I reckon they almost died on your scar counters then you finished em off

[terse dragon]

eighth

[shell hazel]

grats, is 8 wins the highest of all? 😮

[swift mango]

Congrats @worldly osprey for your 3rd win. My cheers were all correct this season..

[terse dragon]

yes

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel ye t3 my team’s invested, the mana saved Nero once my dolls are deceptive, they not full but they are sr-10 not sr 5

[shell hazel]

considering my CA11 teams

you can get them to sr-15 and they'll be even tougher to kill

[hollow lagoon]

I know but I didn’t have enough

[swift mango]

go pull vesti.

[shell hazel]

I have vesti

mlb even lol

[swift mango]

💳

[shell hazel]

didn't really even need that atm

I didn't need to go hundreds of pulls in

I just lack the resources atm to fully build her out

[hollow lagoon]

Ye team 4 their damage was lower, their Cindy was weak

[shell hazel]

yeah I lost that because I was sg into cindy and biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

T5 was clutch

[shell hazel]

yeah scarlet double counters are a thing atm

you may not normally have won that but if you got em low enough RL splash does the rest

[gaunt bane]

any chance I can win this lol

[shell hazel]

yeah they practically killed themselves on your scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

Welp bugged win is still win, worse case my t1 t2 t3 t5 is a trade and my t4 is the winning team was my prediction @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

well they used bugs to beat me as well haha, so we all got bugs 😛

and I used bugs to get to where I was presumably also

nah I was confident in your teams all the time tbh, at most I thought you'd lose maybe 1 or 2 max

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

think you suffer the same issue I do, lack of confidence in your own teams 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I know I lack cs rolls

But I have more cores than most people so I’m a tad beefier

[shell hazel]

see I was pretty confident in these 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I was not expecting sweep tho

But defending sg helped

[shell hazel]

3 and 5 I was a little less certain about

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[shell hazel]

yeah but don't feel bad my defending SG got completely screwed by rng against this guy

[swift mango]

you can, just swap Ein and RH position

[nimble swan]

Congrats @hollow lagoon , you sent back Darknet to the void

[shell hazel]

yeah I really appreciate that, and with the same 5-0 voodoo he used on me lol

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-warhammer-40k-for-the-emperor-handshake-bro-shake-gif-14167301251661325594

[gaunt bane]

yea I did, just realized that team is really slow

[nimble swan]

[shell hazel]

also I'd prefer one of us lot wins it than the random chinese/koreans/japanese people we always face 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Welp I got the frame I always wanted

[shell hazel]

back to pve?

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[nimble swan]

Would be nice not fighting each other in group phase lol

[shell hazel]

yeah for sure. I want to at least get out of group

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll still roll and invest here and there

[shell hazel]

we can't get it twice in a row right?

[cunning crown]

avenged by the chosen one

[maiden bay]

Howdy, could anyone help me arrange my sp arena teams?

[shell hazel]

finish your stall dolls for sure

[hollow lagoon]

I could but sanis and anni Lel

[nimble swan]

I’m not saying anything

[shell hazel]

yup we both got avenged

[shell hazel]

[terse dragon]

I haven't changed teams for 8 times. This team won seven championships. Mihara and Emilia are amazing.

[hollow lagoon]

The amount of max core does say ur chance of winning is high

[worldly osprey]

TYSM but being undefeated for the 3rd time without rapipi doesn’t mean much anymore

[shell hazel]

I don't even have viper yet

[swift mango]

21 pulls. Much better luck than summer. But not that I wanted her that much.

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

plenty to get some dolls higher, vesti first I reckon

you got more materials than me

[terse dragon]

Yes, but I also developed some teams that many people use, and used them early to gain an advantage.

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-devil-tempted-temptation-listening-gif-1317341827998070929

[terse dragon]

[swift mango]

It's mainly because their Nero suck.

[shell hazel]

get vesti SR-15 first then boost your others

[swift mango]

What to do with my Vesti though.

[hollow lagoon]

Took 120 purple and 20 gold kits very lucky

[shell hazel]

damn that isn't bad

actually very good, 60 purple is one level

you're really riding the champ run luck 😄

I'm going to try it later but I doubt I have enough for SR-15

[worldly osprey]

i mean when i use rapipi i only reach finals, but when i drop rapipi i win the whole thing

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

yeah that is more typical

[swift mango]

Reaching phase 8

[shell hazel]

I am fully expecting mine to go like that after solo raid later

I don't have enough to brute force it, I can add like 3 levels worth of XP + whatever I get later, so maybe I'll be stuck on 10 if I'm lucky

got some days of solo raid left I'll keep trying

[worldly osprey]

same here just yesterday. i used purple mats to upgrade. 55% missed twice, 65% missed twice, 75% missed twice, and 85% missed first try but landed the second

[swift mango]

Always has been.

[covert lintel]

ig he's learning

[raven plover]

[junior zephyr]

Got 2nd place

Next season CA gonna shuffle?

[raven plover]

someone hit him once today, hes gonna -100 today

[raven plover]

still beta, not gonna shuffle it stays the same so far

maybe after beta season 100 we finally get a CA shuffle

[covert lintel]

he's deficit already after hitting you like that

[junior zephyr]

oh no Mega whale on my CA gonna eat fat

[raven plover]

[covert lintel]

Btw why did you lose

[junior zephyr]

@shell hazel also appreciate it for the help

[shell hazel]

what did I do? 😄

[raven plover]

ye like I said he went plus ultra after losing on top 64 last season, cant beat that

[swift mango]

It's his duty to lose to FA.

[shell hazel]

I mean I could take credit but I don't want to if someone else helped you haha

[raven plover]

wait your gems back to 3 digits

[shell hazel]

did you mean Railtracer?

[junior zephyr]

Helped me build a lineup.

[swift mango]

Could tell him in Union chat that we could help.

Let's burn Hobo altogether

[shell hazel]

was it this one? #pvp-arena message

[junior zephyr]

Ye

[shell hazel]

oh haha awesome surprised it got so far and no noah 😄

then I graciously accept the praise

[covert lintel]

I gacha vesti 1time and purchase hard mode event as usual

[shell hazel]

[covert lintel]

[torn pumice]

Radeki needs to be studied

me in this forsaken bracket

[covert lintel]

Idk if he is in discord

[torn pumice]

[shell hazel]

maybe?

[raven plover]

did you get her

[shell hazel]

glad to have helped 🙂

I quite forgot I had haha

[junior zephyr]

Last season without Noah but this season just pulled

[shell hazel]

there's a few of us enriched folks so sometimes people get us confused

[hollow lagoon]

Should renam your self to enriching hippos

[shell hazel]

I am accepting the enrichment as opposed to the enriching one

[hollow lagoon]

I been enriched by your wisdom

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-master-nod-agree-beard-gif-17299924

[covert lintel]

@raven plover

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[hollow lagoon]

Holy crap the one @cunning crown took out was a urber whale commander 491 sync 508

[shell hazel]

sync 508

god that is leviathan

[covert lintel]

After i made a meme i really got her

[hollow lagoon]

Welp good thing ca is synced so miracles happen

[raven plover]

ok I will make meme next time I gacha

[shell hazel]

if someone is 20-40 sync ahead of me on same start they're a whale certainly, you're more ahead than than but you got nothing on that guy lol

[hollow lagoon]

I ain’t got nothing

[shell hazel]

no you look like a dolphin compared with them

and we're plankton

what is your sync now?

[hollow lagoon]

But he’s not in my server bracket so he’s not stopping me from collecting rank frames , but if he gets folded into spa I’ll have to eat 2nd or something

[hollow lagoon]

456

[gaunt bane]

oh yea why P5 RH btw

[shell hazel]

374 (but I have cd for 2 levels) so in theory 376 if I could use it

[gaunt bane]

I thought RH burst is stronger

[shell hazel]

so +80 on me 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

Credit and blue stuff hard to get

[shell hazel]

battle data is my main issue now

by the time I use up these 2 levels of cd I'll have another etc

I'm mainly wanting 381 soon so i'm getting there as fast as my f2p ass can go

[shell hazel]

am f2p like @umbral belfry

[hollow lagoon]

That credit requirement is very unfriendly

[shell hazel]

yeah I can see myself running out of credits entirely at some point

in the hard mode shop I'm just buying credits now not the 30 cd things

when I got everything else

[hollow lagoon]

Im feeling I need 481 to break container since my Ein rolls are so bad

2 atk 1 ele is ooooof

[shell hazel]

you'll get there in the end don't think it's necessarily worth trying to rush it

[maiden bay]

Bump

[swift mango]

In arena RH is weaker

[hollow lagoon]

Noah-biscuit-Cindy, Blanc- jackal indom(pull vesti). Pad ur 3rd or run sg

[shell hazel]

i'd cp pad 3rd on that tbh

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t see Trina or drunklet I think

[shell hazel]

uninvested sg comp won't do much except get cp gapped

clip sg like noir can fit in anywhere

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[shell hazel]

naga can work too in a pinch

[hollow lagoon]

My first ca win I had naga in my stall

Over rapunzel that is

No cycle 2 burst tho was rough

[shell hazel]

the teams have evolved a lot

since the earlier ones

[hollow lagoon]

I just wanted to use rapunzel else where

[fathom rock]

The goonies guy won ca @umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

rip jwoz champ

[pale knoll]

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