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Itโs surely not a general truth, depends on teams / speeds
vesti will keep doing damage to everyone once noah ends
So she's like a mix of Cindy and SBS or what? One nuke and then aoe damage?
She can kill p1/p2 if invested enough
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But i donโt think this works for 2RL Noah, I think she can burst in time but havenโt tried
I lost this one, but I think it's because she was too fast again maybe but also sat reloading in the middle ๐
she got some damage off post noah and it wasn't bad but not enough to finish em off, but my vesti is super low invest
Hmmm
Yeah i see sheโs not ideal for indom duel
sheโs a superior sbs functionally
this is that match against a speedy ish cindy team, check when she reloads ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swj5UaQzHkg
Answered to wrong message but anyway 
Aha. And what about S.Anis? Big decision soon -- get MLB S.Anis, or stick to Vesti now?
personally I think s.anis may just be useful on attacks in some cases
but if you look at like keripo pvp leagues they don't run s.anis
so I think at best it's 1 copy for some PVE bits and the odd pvp attack
she should get filtered out even more as we get more pvp units in the future as well
Will probably win with invested skills 
Iโm planning 1 copy of SAnis and idk if I should MLB Vesti right away
with more ammo she probably wouldn't stop to reload? I'm not sure
I'd love to see the same comp with an invested one
or just having semi-decent overload lines
think also against cindy/noah you can afford to run a bit slower, otherwise you just slam into noah too soon
What we think
Decent vesti should easy win noise noah cindy. Quite a few vids of that
Can search Himeโs and Retroโs vids in this chat
that's me 
Ammo diff
I kind of prefer right here
I run 1 68% max ammo and bastion reload 3 rounds and I get like 12 hits in 
ammo and CS probably makes the most difference to vesti speed post noah immunity ending
Definitely need ammo
yeah, I'll do more science runs when I've added some overloads, should add 1st one today
cs not that impt possibly
How long is Noah invul? 5s?
can you get 1% more pls
My 4/7/7 barely lost against similar team but without jackal and rumani instead
0 or 2 lines.. maybe. Iโll wait till gatrix tests 
3
I remembered it was 3s
No goon 

In the video it felt like 5s, but probably vesti run out right when invul ended
How many copies u have K?
Hmm, if iโm not super lucky i donโt think i go for mlb
Boo vesti
mlb for whels like hime 
t1 - I think right is quick enough to indom before scar kills them? my CA doesn't have emi so I'm not 100% on this, have you seen other similar matches where the emi comp usually wins?
t2 - SG's firing into Nero at p1 - if Nero can withstand for long enough the stall comp should win.
t3 - I think left is too slow, also soda will screw with burst order. I give R the win here.
t4 - with the addition of jackal I usually won similar mirror matches. LapT adds good damage once both Noahs end.
t5 - sg's hitting jackal link at p5 but no biscuit, if they kill jackal they may have a chance to snow ball or throw the indom off, but I think I prefer L here.
my general thinking then is R | R | R | R | L
grab some other opinions though, some of these comps I am not 100% on as we don't have s.anis or emi
tactical elysion has not been kind 
376 if I can get some battle data ๐
RLRLL imo 
I'd go with Rheax opinion over mine ๐
I have like 490 gold ticks, should I claim vesti? Surely ill have 2 claims by time anni and new years come
new years is miles away
you'll want at least 200 gold mileage for anni, if not 400, but that is november so some time
I expect a good pilgrim and a weaker one for anni
should i build quiry for stall team or go vesti? what kind of resources are needed on both? (i have emil)
Maybe I should wait a little before claiming vesti
quiry is kind of niche, more so than even most of the rest of the stall team
Ill try pulling for sanis and seeing if vesti is actually bugged
Yeah. save mileage for anniv 
after the amount of pilgrims and collabs - iโm kinda expecting them to do 3 pilgrims for 3rd anni
I'd potentially say mana instead for usefulness outside of CA
I know if I had vesti to wishlist I wont get her
vesti is the one to actually invest for now I reckon
I've not gotten standard ticket ssrs in a while
Well, we have mass mold coming in sept. So thereโs that
If I have ewha can I use vesti in pve?
i have mana built! CA has been brutal on my resources. so far built viper, poli and pepper - and i think all are now benched
her pve perf isn't amazing but she'd work if you lacked other good dps/fire raid
Vesti prolly higher priority now. Stall needs invested Nero and Moran as well
i do have nero and moran well built too!
then imo vesti next, it's what I'm doing
I still think quiry is better than mana 
but mana has use in other areas of the game ๐
quiry is basically only good in the one team in the one mode
I'd throw mana into a team if I wanted a healer for a raid thing
or in the towers
they might just kill themselves on a max core jackal link tbh with the double proc especially
lock in Zanta! champ run 
zant profile avatar is ๐ฅ
only thing that can ruin your day on that one is if you kill one of their units and rosa snipes your scar
looks real good
yeah I ran my own product 23 in CA once out of respect 

zant 2 time? 
he would be
I can work out if I can possibly lose spa 1 right based on time remaining and my current points?
Why the F did my siren do so much damage
there are 5 days left and I have 114699 points, assuming I stay 1 for another 20 mins that is 200 more points. so 114900 basically with 5 days remaining
Probably has lots of elemental dmg lines against their iron code Nikkes
she's hitting p1 jackal who is iron code
Since jackal is kinda bugged rn I need jackal to outspeed a jackal?
Also sr15 jackal nice
bro is goated
does charge speed lines affect pvp?
I got this as well ๐
How to beat this comp please and thank you. trying to beat before reset 
noise noah cindy helmt rumani should win that
hmmm. the same result with them losing but it might differ if they were sr15. idk tho it looked 
ty regardless!
their scarlet nuke gets tanked by noah and then you just cindy them to death
When youre at that high of syncs can you still just snipe their only b1 in p5 (even if defender)
thanks
Hm, wouldn't that just keep Nero and Mana Alive for a bit longer here?
Similar levels
So funny thing, I ran what I had shown after because I was feeling rushed and it ended up beating them
. Thank you for the help, ill keep that noted if this one fails me at some point 
So I know I missed the Vesti convo but I heard she is good in pvp?
it's fast enough I think still basically, noise just ensures you have a bit of a boost to your damage and such
also biscuit not really needed here as noah does the blocking for you for damage
It was kinda an old comp I used as my Noah for a while. I had the issue back then there my Noah kept dying to someone.
SR-15 and tempura cube
SR5 
she should be pretty tanky, and rumani acts as backup b1 if she does happen to die
oh, yeah for noah just gotta be careful of sirens, noah should also be SR-15 with tempura cube if you can ๐
but I mean it's 2RL not like she needs to live for long
Nah I'll gather more
Noah is 11% CS no ammo so luckily Siren isnt an issue anymore
if the opponent has a similar comp with siren re-arrange a bit if you want:
noise rumani cindy helmt noah
that prevents your noah from easily taunting their siren
I've seen opponent noise/noah taunt your noah which in turn taunts their siren ๐
But thats what the no ammo 11% CS is for tho ๐ค
Where is rail 
I think Rail was the one that told me that one 
11cs on team to avoid b2 being stun by siren in 2rl?
Thank you for the help @shell hazel
it's not you taunting them it's them taunting you in a weird chain
I just find lobbing noah on the end can prevent weird things ๐
mm what could I have done better here? also, how did that blanc indom trigger? I'd like to believe I didn't feed that much so he could jump to 2rl from 3rl
yeah team wide that works
@placid bloom proudly sending you my first friendship point
im assuming characters that sub and tank should be on tempering then?
might have to move my cubes around a bit then
jackal double feed bug atm
you sent me hearts
wut
it would but we also don't know if that moran was burst 10 alongside nero 10s. still from 2 clips vs nero stall it looks like vesti wins
we are now lovers 
it's hard to 2RL scar indom to death with jackal now as they feed so much
Thats fair. Ill keep that in mind 
Proboably 10. That team survives Scarlet/Trina/RH/Centi/Jackal (unless crit on Mana)
Run vesti Indom with jackal vs t3 
sure just don't do that in biscuit ver ofc
then rip them vs both blanc and noah vesti 
ty for testing!
just this then?
you want them to run indom vesti into indom vesti? ๐
t3 isn't indom vesti
meta
No indom vesti on that unprotect noah
oh I thought it was the recorded one above
iirc she only loses to scar rosa and slower indom
it is
Hmm I think not burst fast enough
whoa what does her burst do that makes her that crazy? better than cindy and emilia?
Is there a better Def for rookie btw or does it not really matter anymore. like im using this for example
Give her quantum too and ball
wdym
beats noah teams, beats scar no rosa, beats nero moran
I forgot p3 cindy lol, you should be fine
absolutely better than cindy lol. apparently better than Emi in dmg but not burst gen
thats interesting i'll build her
she just hits like a truck and can kill off p1-p3 wind / sometimes neutral
like trina p2
pre burst mind you
he'll probably get his spot back immediately though, feels pointless to attack now
Doesn't really matter to me. 
i'll start building her then
rookie doesn't really matter anyone who has built sensible units usually can counter you, unless you built a variety of units that you can run
Almost all defs in rookie are beatable just by vetsi alone 
so jackal gives double burst gen from feeds now?
Yes
Yeahhhh, sadly thats why I asked cause I haven't changed Def in several months or so
doable?
whats vesti skill investment? 10 on burst?
the ranks don't give you much and winning or losing it doesn't really matter, treat it like a training ground for testing out teams
got it
In CA, is treasure poli > viper on SG comp? Given that poli isnโt on P1 for opponentโs burst gen
not doable 
kinda debatable. less dmg (viper attacker poli defender) but tankier depending where poli is
is rumani good for pvp
one of the must have for burst gen so yes
In head2head which ones comes on top? Poli, viper, fairy
xanne
no purple RL dolls on the gamba ๐
I'd say xanne > viper or poli depending
xanne is not a SG unit though, so if you want an extra SG focus then it's poli or viper again haha
I'll get Vesti SR-5 on tomorrow SR ๐
I feel that xanne revival and big atk buff makes a difference though
yeah only issue with xanne is potential new b2 in the future that does better
and you probably want some dupes

but maybe you get away with 1 copy for CA
I think so
she's relatively safe at p3 or w/e


mm vesti can't handle cindy
dunno what tests you're running but mine wins 
think there's other vids outside of mine showing that too
some with noise others without
did multiple tests
she wins in both of these, including a healing cindy
but here, a slightly higher cp, basically eats all of vesti's rockets unflinching
I know but what sucks is that theres one guy who waits 2 minutes before reset to use all of his daily attempts on me, even if after 2 or 3 im no longer the highest. This happens nearly every day and has been for several months
if you've built a variety of units just change your team every day or so, to random shit ๐
my current def
4 defenders and a helm
I've got all but Moran built 
does maid mast and maid anchor make a pvp duo
I've cycled a lot of defences but generally you want jackal somewhere
helm somewhere for burst gen
noah is good in general for defence
you can sort of play with stuff a bit outside of that
according to grok I need to hold C1 for about 24 hours in the next 5 day period to ensure I get SPA 1 at the end vs the guy who keeps stealing it off me
assuming only swapping back and forth between 1-2 which is accurate so far
Neither are particularly used in pvp at all
rookie will always be jackal helm noah, really just depends what u flex since thats the strongest defensive+gen core team
I ran this for a bit, can throw some people off lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLgh4sqMJKc
I build stuff for CA so I can have some fun running units most people in my rookie don't bother with
Your goal is to make them burst faster?
like, the stun was going to noah, how did it land on jackal
Ohhh
Target skip cindy and Rosa 
why cindy though
defender p1
but how does cindy get skipped
I thought rosa only concealed herself?
cindy in p1 should give double burst gen, she isn't skipped
she is skipped by rl
She gives 1.5x burst gen because rocket launcher hits p2 instead 
so how are RLs generating double gen on her if she can't be targeted?
they don't

she can't be targeted but she can be splashed
Yeah i want to cycle but with them being beat all the time just doesn't really give me a good idea of what works
interesting comp
so interesting I won't use it because my opps will also find it interesting how they can cp gap me more easily 
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I wouldn't worry about it honestly that much - let them hit you 5 times or w/e
play around with your defences if you want, it will give them some headaches, I had a guy doing that to me and I vanquished them by making them make errors
it's better if you can throw in random stuff like rosanna or moran though
does the enemy not generate burst gen on decoys?
doable then?
ah, rip my own burst gen then
you can drop to 1.454M without being in deficit even if biscuit loses some cp
jackal gens a lot for you here
it's 2RL 2SR so you don't get that much
you might die before burst
even with bugged gen I don't think that cooks
fair enough, yolo
ofc
I didn't see anyone else run it yet, it's a dumb comp but it just kind of worked for me lol
p.s. vesti failed here
i hate my new bracket keep getting mogged ๐ฅ
failed
how to win 2RL(close to 2RL) bestie+blanc?
probably, just testing stuff rn
was worth the ๐ฟ thanks for sending ๐
gotta improve vesti's lines
yeah, she lost to the vampiric heal
curious how she didn't in the other fight
slower indom most likely
what is indom?
I would say rosa but don't think she'd nuke tempering vesti
Moran 
what lines/gear do I reroll first for tvesti?
does anyone know what's vestie's burst gen now?
RH B1 buff on the one that wins
her heal is based on damage so she heals more/quicker
makes sense, guess I just need a chonkier vesti
I'd do chest or boots for rerolling cdmg
should I lock anything 
rerolling that middle line crit dmg is going to suck though
you want both ammo and cs so I'd lock those unless you feel lucky today 
chest would be easiest
chest seems the more obvious one but it's 3 rocks a go 

for atk % / ele %
atk % probably better
could also gun for a good line 3 on the gloves to start with though the two lines you got are decent
but then usual line 3 => temp lock => line 1 + 2 gamba

oh you full re-rolling it, I figured you'd just roll the line 1
yeah that is the way it usually goes for me too
I hate the rock rng - it's rng to get rocks and then rng to spend them
2/3 ideal lines again but 
only keeper lines for me is if I see atk+ele
you do need some ammo though for sure
think 2 decent ammo rolls is the min people seem to rec
also anyone got a better website than that nikke deck app? I hate how they slapped symbols instead of percentages
spaghetti coded
I just used 6 rock to improve my scar ATK line from 5% to 6%. 
work is good but I think it's more work to add teams to
yeah, more customizable
like I use work to check exact timings but the deck is so much quicker to do quick stuff on
Can you help me improve this?
Maybe I should try to make 2 good teams but honestly I am not sure how 
Dps : 20 rocks no atk or ele
Moran : 2 rocks gets blue ele atk and def
At least you got good line on Moran. 
Now go max her out and Moran solo. 
can I request SR challenge to be released a day early 
You can but will devs care 
as much as they care about CA
Is this 2.5rl with 15cs helm
just about
but more CS on helm speeds it up a bit
cs on rapu/xmaiden doesn't change your speed on this team
it's all in on Helm CS
I just wanna try new def instead of the p1 cind I was running, seems it stopped working
Nero and rapu still lacking ols but funny enough only the bracket whale can cp gap it
if you run Mana instead of XMaiden then that team needs CS on HelmT and Rapu
I don't have mana 
I don't mean to do it as such just to say that you need to set the CS by the units in the team
on the comp you show only HelmT cs changes it
but it can vary depending who you run
retro its over, char went 411-421-431 in 6 days ๐จ
You can hold 2nd 
You 1st tho still
whats his def look like ๐ค
Easy work
crown/rapi ok

p1 bisc
Heโs always been stat padder 
And he gems
centi burst with blanc 
But whale vs whale is different for him prob
Fancy win 
these teams are just like his CA perfomances
which between the two is better?
Picked wrong laplace 
you're 439 though. just go 441 
Fighting for 1st over 2nd is wild concept I will never understand
probably matters more if 2nd is dealing with getting hit. feels like 2nd can get sniped a lot. idt anyone is hitting ace though
if only he was a folian we could test teams ๐
make friends 
hime bullied, he shy 
@violet spoke wake up, you got attacked 
Did you vote tabi or jwoz 
lol think jwoz wins, didnt deck tho
Same
Retro S8 is clearable at 321 right? 
I did s8 at 301 I have no say in this

Why you same pfp as yousri
Atleast he used up both
Actually I might do s9 if alice enough buff 
ez
woogie you know what to do
what is Alice doing? 
Buffing sbs
even if they surpass your sync you can hit back for quite a while (to send a message lol)
also they can copy your teams but they can't copy your CS lines ๐
wut? 
Alice s1 buffs sbs
oh heโll pass me alright lmao
One day I send Ace a "message" 
you can probably still beat them even if they're +40 sync
-# you have successfully defended against Retro ๐
Go beat my rookie def pls 
idk p1 bisc tech might be a problem 
what da hell is that team 
ill be happy at 2/3 as long as ur 1st! 
@swift mango do you pay for cd, start 1st of Feb 2024 right?
@glad meteor 
Retro number one!
A team 
k PLEASE
Thereโs 100 dr. Sbs has no chance without blanc
why is your moron core 3? 

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that's her name right? 
Idk its how my acc got distributed
I'm 23 levels below you 
these all sound like excuses to me
not even maxcore vesti smh
we're just baby minnows f2p
No credit card 
credit card(s)?
I still have this
multiple!?
I didnt do it
it's time to swipe
Swipe for me 
Get me 40 rocks
I can't you're the mega whale here 
I didnt spend a cent 
Bro im normal sync for non brick in the bracket 

Ok maybe I push campaign too hard but that's beside the point

this box contains a purple RL doll for Vesti
just gotta manifest it
spoiler || it did not ||
lies 
Bro i push better than local whale 
that's because they don't need to
what sync is jwoz?
367
Ace is still on cc smh
dont look at mine i do campaign with pvp 
Ace!
I'll beat you at 341 if you stay there
reminds me of someone
lmao
that's not mine lol

mine is
You and me 
my 404 whale is stuck at 27
no i meant Rosy tbh
Error 404 skill not found
he's nero moran in HM
yeah ๐

That's not pushing campaign that's pushing the upload button for a meme, repesct
the biggest joke of all is despite all of the back and forth, I only need to hold chal 1 for about a day of the 5 left and it's basically assured I wind up as spot 1
can i replace centi with helmt?
Why they still idle 
how much effort the whale puts into trying to take it, is all for nothing in the end ๐
dude my noise tanks 1st crystal chamber 
HelmT give higher regen at high s1 level if phase 2 treasure
e-peen
These spenders smh 
did you see the replays earlier Rail? SG team did not win ๐
no i haven't watched
it wasn't great, I kind of expected it
you tried the other aswell?
I won with kuwon help
HelmT will do more gen than centi unless cindy p1
indom comp
it's defense and I doubt these guys are using cindy p1
both sets if you want to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssUMwdfwalg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fou0OufN6Ns
now I can fit centi somewhere
Pve gamer with pvp disguise 
ah the indom mirror, that's boring
match 1 is the only one to see
Itโs the new way now
Retro for the top 11 top people in our bracket 3 of them are stuck at mother whale
+ how do I crown
try beat it without mirroring, you won't learn much with that
sure but I just needed to win before the reset and I sent the SG team first to see how it did ๐
With vesti release 
my issue is my sg comp ol's are just cp padding mostly
if they were actually a threat it would have won I think
it's initial OL and nothing more
like replacing moran right here? 
but siren took too long to die on the link basically
ye i saw
unlike chinnits SGs yours didn't deal much dmg, invest makes a huge difference with SGs i guess
Turn on combat effect to balanced and have her hit 20th stack before elite attack 
your rosanna dmg on the other hand was on point
there's also the fact jackal feed is broken atm anyway
arena as a whole atm is kind of demotivating because everything is just banged up
spaghetti code and SU refusal of fixing it so far
yeah I need some good atk/ele lines mostly on SG's
I have bigger fish to fry though, namely my Scar rolls
they may turn around and fix it in a future update but it's likely not until the current banner trio ends
no official note in hands either
su donโt give a damn lol
Only care about sr
i dunno if i'd go as far as saying they care for SR
when it got cancalled 3 times in a row last time
only care about their wallets? ๐
because it was working as intended
Though most people donโt care about pvp. If not top 10 it not even worth checking sp 
Any way I could deal with this guy without risk?
I have all characters (except Emilia and Mana.) and I "kind of" can beat him, but it's more of a 50/50 and yesterday he got ahead by that "20 levels" CP boost, so I've lost a couple times and when I lose I get mad and gem up, so I'd rather avoid it ๐
tbh nikke atm for me is at its lowest low
they better not screw up exploration mode
Was looking forward to RE collab till i saw jill design. They made her into anime girl
triple parallel banners, lack of QoLs, pvp got that AFK arena mode, bugs and spaghetti code
not looking hot
that sounds like a damn waste
@shell hazel @glad meteor @umbral crown 61 level difference, still finding ways to get this guy 
RedHood in stall team... Not a bad idea!
I also realized that I've lost every Blanc vs Blanc matchup so far cause my Blanc team is too fast ๐คฃ
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Mine is like lv5, maybe you.missing coree, better lines, doll or skill investment
Waos, rail strong
I liked the QoL that makes the game heating up my phone for no reason when I do absolutely nothing in lobby
Really haven't got that problem again
working as intended, allows you to use your phone as a stove
sad that feature was removed 
@shell hazel @swift mango @umbral belfry @fathom rock @pale knoll @keen vapor
popcorn worthy
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Finally landed the Michelin recipe


@nimble swan not champ yet, only if I win it 
unlink scar indom is crazy
how did the first team win 
The whale: soo thats how i lost, let me change comp to counter your counter
3 โโโ
Bro, you joking?
but yeah, I still need to get my credits first 
Me def still yet to win once against the 3 peeps attacking me 
I haven't done any PvP unit reviews in a while (busy with RL and Etheria Restart) but yeah, Vesti: Tactical Upgrade is kinda broken. She hits hard. Very hard. Actually lore-accurate now.
Regular rockets hit 3 targets in PvP and fires 4 rockets in quick succession so pretty massive AoE damage from the very start. On burst, she does a mini AoE nu...
vesti actually just wiping opp team with rh b1 at 1.6rl 
thats a lil nutty


Idk I think it can go either way
......
It can't burst 
shoulda put that through nikke deck first
whats the ol line to look for vesti pvp
Is always attack ele max ammo 
idk if keripo had enough rocks but he just went full damage
Keripo had a 40 rock package at hand 
but doesnt vesti's 3 shot reset on reload? or every time she charge 2 seconds she gets it?
I dont think i can ever top this blunder
wait doesnt max ammo hinder your reload? you want less ammo to reload more right
well, at least it was rook- hey, red arena is SP 
What's your definition of reset on reload for you 
i thought reload happens when u run out of ammo, like Sanis
Yes
so after Vesti fires those 3 shots doesnt her shots have a 2 second charge speed until she reloads?
No, is 100% CS(instantaneous) after doing a full charge attack, so any attack on auto
Then she loses CS if she doesn't do a full charge attack (impossible with 100%) or runs out of ammo. In a sense, resetting her
Maybe you were looking for the refreshing word
do we must get vesti ammo to be dividable by 4?
Max ammo increases the amount of time she has before reloading, having her Max ammo be divisible by 4 makes sure each full charge is her full damage
This minmaxing omg 
ok so she does a 2 second charge then fires 3 fast shots then she does another 2 second charge then does another 3 fast shots
That it is
It refreshes every shot
She will never do a long charge until reloading
if you are PvE you will want x4 divisible ammo yes
"any attack" period
overload requirements get weirder every single time
so after the first 2 second charge she just instantaneously fires every shot afterwards until she runs out of ammo?
she does blocks of 4 shots
Incorrect she will full charge every 4th shot
If her ammo isn't divisible by 4, yes it seems 
Full charge once fire 4 shots, then repeat
what I want for ammo specifics again
just look at her weapon, this is why she can fire 4 shot at a time 
just think of her long charge speed as reloading, except she has to do an extra reload when she actually runs out of ammo
oh does her rocket launcher fires 4 ammo per shot?
i see
I only tested on infinite ammo environment
Higher max ammo the better, ammo being divisible by 4 just makes sure the last full charge before a reload makes full use of skill 1
You were right
I mean you can play around having awkward ammo by manually reloading
but if you have awkward ammo it's gonna feel bad to auto
especially if you have 1 ammo remaining, you charge 2s fire 1 rocket and then reload for 2s followed by another 2s charge 
literally spending 6s+ to fire 1 shot
I admit I wasn't voting RE for this reason 
But like, we already accepted the Stellar Blade 2D adaptation 
so what cube
It seems like not Bastion
for PvP you can bastion since you don't want the fight to actually last until you have to reload
for PvE probably resilience cuz Bastion will screw your ammo if you have perfect ammo 
@covert lintel 
beat him again and change your set up so he will have to go through that process all over again
do not let him enjoy the fruits of his labor
yes 
what magical teams are you using?
Oh, makes sense
welp i could only core 5 Besti not lucky enough
so her official name is Besti now, right
bruh he did not need to spend that much gems theres 6 days until the next CA why not just do 2 tests per day
send him a mystery monthly pass to show appreciation of effort
which might actually scare the shit out of em btw cos 330 gems come outta nowhere he prolly gonna think he got hacked
As I checked more thoroughly yeah.. crazy the guy is less commander level than me by a few levels, but has better invested units than you. (At least in dolls, idk about OL lines) Lots of SR15s..so you might lose r4 for example.
I cheered on you anyway, we will see soon 
T4 is my Cinderella I think?
yep
Nah
guy has SR15 Noise, Noah, Cindy - I don't remember the rest
Is noise is thicker tho
But my Cinderella is more invested
Could go either way
Tho this shit could go so long that burst cycle 2 happens
In which case I could lose
your SBS or RH has higher ATK? or is that team 3RL by any chance?
My indom is dead
ok i thought that's the case
his indom has some buff by mAnchor, and now SBS bugged
idk if it's enough to kill you
Anchor is not much of a buff
yea
So that scarlet will kill me

Cuz defending sg hits p5
I donโt think my bay make it in time
Entire match is hinged on t4 basically
i was coping, i saw 2.5RL bay winning
Nah unlikely
They need to kill one of my unit for Rosa to accelerate
And Iโm not shooting at scarlet
ok so it will all depend on r4
Ye
guy doesn't have much more overall CP than me though, I had the same basically, his sg is more invested, but i have other units more invested..
yeah i saw, mine is kinda invested
Max core noise is excessive
sr15 etc
I donโt even use her for spa
lol I do
And sheโs useless for pve
My bracket is competitive but itโs not my business
and i'm like lowest synchro in top10
The Korean guyโs sync is getting awfully close to being below 100 sync gap tho
yeah, that's good, i missed it
bully
started end of flora banner, but started really playing on xmas event
Missing Cinderella is not as bad as missing siren


I got all necessary units, only missing snow white now but surely i wouldn't build her
At my current cp gap I can fight rest of the entire bracket at the same time and it wonโt do much
my only regret is not mlb-ing siren with tickets
I have more investment in small white than Snow White
Small white is very useful for mother whale
i had 0 mihara, needed to tix her, and i got 1 siren
yeah i bought another copy, so lb1 now
pilgrim molds 0/6 so far and sitting on 2
i'm not opening until i hoard like 4
My pilgrim molds have been 50/50
that's how it should go normally
but got MLB SDoro in 120 pulls so that was lucky
I need to invest more in my sg, and start to build CS on units
I'm starting to build her soon, my bay needs a few more mats to be finished
but one issue is I don't have LaplaceTr, lb1 and i can't get another one
but maybe i do what i did with viper, i got home drunk af, spent all my standard vouchers and woke up and saw i have viper now 
I like my Laplace T
Decent PvP and decent PvE
Rolls ainโt great but works enough
yeah, my 2RL bay would go well with her
My bay is phase 2
idk i'm running 2RL bay, my moran is sr15 and nero is sr10, but no CS so it's slow
But my bay has only pink chest
Phase 3 is a bit excessive but waifu is lifu
cover repair is not that bad though
idk if i should switch to nero moran without enough CS
nah i'm not even sure if i will treasure her
she gives extra burst gen to the opponent, xAnne is better imo
if there will be rerun
So vesti is good?
yea
Thx, what cube should i use
she needs ammo so i would use bastion
Thanks
I just need raid to gib me 2 batteries of either resilience or bastion so I can 8 them both
so guess you invested in quantum and tempering
i have lv10 resi and lv9 bastion and now starting to invest in quantum and tempering
Nope
Level 7 resilience, level 7 bastion, level 7 quantum, level 7 destruction
My tempering is bad
mine just got lv4 now 
Tempering?
yeah
Mineโs 4 yeah
Whats your sync? That cp is crazy
456
Nice, i just hit 421 today
Nice
damn, i'm 311 
U can try to defeat me
he's in another bracket 
Yeah
you have emi and sanis both, right?
I need 481 so I can get thru mirror container
In top 6 im the only 421 besides the whale 518 the rest are 444+
Zan probably has sanis but no emi
No sanis yet
Oh
i meant you
Then emiless as well
He started getting more cp when i was able to break his defenss with 60-70.levels gap
First time was when i 287 beat 350 or something
Last time inwas 341 and he was 410
I had to deal with a whale before, then I became the whale
Waos
I fought that whale in a death match in rookie
Once I found counter team of his defense I kept attacking him Till he quit
To be in range with my whale i need at least 481 boost today

Then I became the first treasure helm owner of the entire bracket and I was annihilating my bracket for a week
Yeah we had a same kind of guy

I saved the random treasure material boxes and when helmโs treasure was released I opened them and had a head start
When i defeated the whale first time i had nero team and helmT ready, he stayed C2 for a week and came back with helm max core treasured along with laplace
The rookie bracket went from they can fight back after Iโm done attacking to utterly oppressed
But now it wonโt matter since I gap them by 100 sync thx to them being stuck to mother whale
Only the Korean broke thru it
The hard mother whale that is
Wait wtf co-op
I had to wait till close to 381 since i have no pve investment
Coop today 
Time to get bones

How is their summer anis healing back to full health instantly even after tanking Cinderella burst down to 1 hp? I donโt think anis has any self healing in her own kit and the burst drops everyone except jackal Noah and anis

hoboman time to scold ur union member for bullying
Yo old-timers, what's the deal with Tvesti?
Is it a bug, a feature?
And who would you pair/team her up with?
global pepega 
he is sending you a message
bro just hating
its your time to sending him the message back, go 10x
(I may or may not have attacked him like 15x on the last day)
ok hoboman get the rest of ur union to bully the bully
Hitting the same person over and over is good fun

both ch1 and ch2 regularly change after regardless 
not sure about the vesti one, record and show

vesti one lost cause stunned scar, rh burst almost killed but they died to vesti
siren gonna stun scar, RH gonna do B3 and then besto vesti gonna delete your team
need a specific team to counter it
against besto vesti she does not really have a counter yet

you could try if your rosanna strong enough to kill her
That specific team has a counter though, right? Probably would have won if Scarlet had less ammo
rossana not invested, and definitely not gonna waste rocks to reroll scarlet
๐ฟ
and it's a member of counters! 
Actually started 29 Feb. Created account global 1 day before it but needed 1-2 days to reroll then somehow, comeback to the old account and got Elegg in 8 pulls so I keep it. Still have a bricked global in the same account. 
match 2 pretty close 
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GKPi4elB544
it's the indom jackal that is powerful ๐
Anyone know what the skill investment looks like for vesti TU
4/7/7 (cope budget) 4/10/10 (decent) 10/10/10 (cp pad op pvp unit)
Hi guys quick question, I'm a new player uuuhhh could I realistically beat this team?
This is my current team right now...
My mast 
Damn, sorry I forgot to change discord channels...
Their vanguard look smol. You could maybe kill them fast and win. 
It's like 5 year since I last PvP in Azur lane though
But I would surely pick this team to attack when there is a arena mission. 
You could still always get Enty skill to activate back to back and win with her being immortal anyway. 
yes you can just battle
is it that moran + helm just counter my scarlet or something?
maybe I can run some helm burst comp for their scarlet but my noah is busy in their cindy..
or maybe I can move scarlet + siren to their noah team and nuke out their cindy and do cindy vs their helm moran or noah + Helm vs their scar
ez farm lets win
mineโs like this and cube lv5 doll sr 10 skill 7-10-10 OL +3 head and body. how about yours?
dont worry about pvp and keep farming
There is a exercise guide in AL
their team is not that good so
hmm, i think i played against some bay before and my 2RL just went thru them
odd enough... I won against this moran-bay team from another guy...
Cool ty, why did you drop azure lane tho? ๐
Sorry for asking, it's just that I started playing it like less than 50 days ago.
I didn't drop it
run this
Oooooh, I thought you said you didn't play PVP lol ๐
Your team looks stacked.
I can't wait for the anniversary.
yeah the exercise reward is bad so dont worry about it
rather use your resource to build some team to farm stuff like this event (T4), get a Lv70 0LB ranger and Lv70 0LB some DD to farm
it is EN anni right now
I dont bother PVP that much but I had the highest PVP rank ๐ . i mean i do bother
just less involved than nikke's since nikke's more complicated and more units
gotta try that tmr
Nice! Is it really the EN anniversary right now? Where is the UR banner? ๐ญ
N i k k e is more complicated?
But merit Bulins... ๐ข
only the CN and JP anni has UR banner ๐ EN you just goon, that is it. goon > UR. plus you'd need 300k coin and 400 cube for 200 build for a UR pity so dont worry for now
Holy cow, where do I get 300K coins and 400 cubes...
you dont gain a lot of extra merit from winning, and you'd just have a lot of it at some point
It's just so hard starting honestly. I need more of those prototype Bulins ๐ญ
farming
1 oil ~=6 coin in lategame, and you get about 10k oil per week so that is 60k coin ish
you can ask in AL discord but AL early game is actually pretty involved, but once you set things up it is pretty easy
Cool ty ๐
I have 60000 and I haven't done arena since year one of the game. Aside from missions for skins. 
Just got to the highest rank once was enough for me.
I'm in that discord too lol xD
I guess new players need those. ๐ซ
Is that a pregnant male?
i also need for somet stupid SR ship
gonna DM you for some tips
Ty ๐
Just play long enough, I'm not even playing daily now. And still have 2800 cubes. 
thats a lot, i play daily since mid 2024 and only got 1124
but I have no problem getting UR ones (duh SR dont have pity) so thats good
they should really have a SR pity at some point
I disgress, time to turn off
Idk if any F2P in Global has more snacks than me. 
Brooo, how ...
peak lazy
damn blood loves snacks 
How long have you actually been playing?
Playing almost daily since year one without much grinding. 
Since the very first major event.
The first "visitor dyed in red" event. 
October 2018 according to wiki.
2018 for EN* that was when i still play wow and never touch gacha flops 
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Visitors_Dyed_in_Red
Wowww, That's actually very impressive bro.
That's for CN server
When were the Golden years for AL?
I think it is now
the meta is clear and easy pretty braindead (unless you want minmax)
some of the new ships are very powerful to carry your leveling ships
Thank goodness.... ๐ญ
I find the first Amagi event was the best but it's just my personal opinion.
I mean the first time they introduced JPN Amagi. The sick sister of Akagi.

there is also AL anime that i didn't finish watching
Was it good or okay?
This girl.
It is not as good as the top ones like furiren, and quite messy. only watch if you are into the games
https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/G9VHN9P49/azur-lane
i thin the uma anime is better tbh i am doing that now
I Heard the horse girl anime is actually peak...
I'm having a hard time believing it myself.
I can't see myself getting into the horse girl game tbh
Honestly bro, I might pick it up. People talk about it on this server & on the Nikke server and I might pick it up lol
My old phone home screen for a few years now...
the daily is too long. 3-6 train* = 60~90 minutes. Cannot AFK farm. tbh i dont know how long i can sustain it
60-90 minute dailies ๐
this is the nikke server; ๐
is it? ๐
Lol I forgot what server I was on for a second... ๐
Bro, I can't...
my PVP question will probably go unanswered in the morning 
no that is far too long for regular dailies
Aneth is here to help. It'll be fine
Anyone seeing bugs in noah's invuln?
For example
noah noise biscuit cindy lapT
vs
noah biscuit helm rh rumani
when cindy bursts, noah's invuln is active, however helm dies (no one else is hurt) - I reproduced this twice already.
left has no Helm will be too slow. Right has helm but maybe not the right quantums? wouldn't be 2RL then
I think the game started to become so easy that tier list doesn't matter anymore after this girl is released. 
The powercreep coming after her makes the events mode and story no longer a challenge.








