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shell hazel
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but she needs indom to work

nimble swan
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Itโ€™s surely not a general truth, depends on teams / speeds

shell hazel
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vesti will keep doing damage to everyone once noah ends

signal hull
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So she's like a mix of Cindy and SBS or what? One nuke and then aoe damage?

nimble swan
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She can kill p1/p2 if invested enough

shell hazel
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<@&946725432554836008>

nimble swan
shell hazel
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I lost this one, but I think it's because she was too fast again maybe but also sat reloading in the middle ๐Ÿ˜„

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she got some damage off post noah and it wasn't bad but not enough to finish em off, but my vesti is super low invest

fathom rock
nimble swan
quick lake
shell hazel
nimble swan
signal hull
shell hazel
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personally I think s.anis may just be useful on attacks in some cases

quick lake
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sanis has been meh in pvp for a long while

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ya maybe in certain attacks

shell hazel
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but if you look at like keripo pvp leagues they don't run s.anis

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so I think at best it's 1 copy for some PVE bits and the odd pvp attack

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she should get filtered out even more as we get more pvp units in the future as well

quick lake
nimble swan
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Iโ€™m planning 1 copy of SAnis and idk if I should MLB Vesti right away

shell hazel
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with more ammo she probably wouldn't stop to reload? I'm not sure

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I'd love to see the same comp with an invested one

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or just having semi-decent overload lines

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think also against cindy/noah you can afford to run a bit slower, otherwise you just slam into noah too soon

fathom rock
quick lake
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Decent vesti should easy win noise noah cindy. Quite a few vids of that

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Can search Himeโ€™s and Retroโ€™s vids in this chat

umbral belfry
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that's me poggies

shell hazel
glad meteor
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I run 1 68% max ammo and bastion reload 3 rounds and I get like 12 hits in pepehmmm

shell hazel
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ammo and CS probably makes the most difference to vesti speed post noah immunity ending

glad meteor
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Definitely need ammo

shell hazel
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yeah, I'll do more science runs when I've added some overloads, should add 1st one today

quick lake
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cs not that impt possibly

nimble swan
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How long is Noah invul? 5s?

glad meteor
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My 4/7/7 barely lost against similar team but without jackal and rumani instead

quick lake
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0 or 2 lines.. maybe. Iโ€™ll wait till gatrix tests CrownHUH

glad meteor
nimble swan
glad meteor
umbral belfry
nimble swan
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In the video it felt like 5s, but probably vesti run out right when invul ended

glad meteor
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She was reloading mostly

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Sheโ€™s like ein but you need ammo

nimble swan
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How many copies u have K?

glad meteor
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1

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Bunnies coming

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And i donโ€™t have any resources

nimble swan
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Hmm, if iโ€™m not super lucky i donโ€™t think i go for mlb

glad meteor
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Boo vesti

glad meteor
shell hazel
# fathom rock Hmmm

t1 - I think right is quick enough to indom before scar kills them? my CA doesn't have emi so I'm not 100% on this, have you seen other similar matches where the emi comp usually wins?
t2 - SG's firing into Nero at p1 - if Nero can withstand for long enough the stall comp should win.
t3 - I think left is too slow, also soda will screw with burst order. I give R the win here.
t4 - with the addition of jackal I usually won similar mirror matches. LapT adds good damage once both Noahs end.
t5 - sg's hitting jackal link at p5 but no biscuit, if they kill jackal they may have a chance to snow ball or throw the indom off, but I think I prefer L here.

my general thinking then is R | R | R | R | L

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grab some other opinions though, some of these comps I am not 100% on as we don't have s.anis or emi

quick lake
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tactical elysion has not been kind sadge

shell hazel
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376 if I can get some battle data ๐Ÿ˜„

quick lake
shell hazel
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I'd go with Rheax opinion over mine ๐Ÿ˜„

quartz rover
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I have like 490 gold ticks, should I claim vesti? Surely ill have 2 claims by time anni and new years come

shell hazel
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new years is miles away

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you'll want at least 200 gold mileage for anni, if not 400, but that is november so some time

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I expect a good pilgrim and a weaker one for anni

cursive pike
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should i build quiry for stall team or go vesti? what kind of resources are needed on both? (i have emil)

quartz rover
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Maybe I should wait a little before claiming vesti

shell hazel
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quiry is kind of niche, more so than even most of the rest of the stall team

quartz rover
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Ill try pulling for sanis and seeing if vesti is actually bugged

quick lake
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Yeah. save mileage for anniv sadge

cursive pike
shell hazel
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I'd potentially say mana instead for usefulness outside of CA

quartz rover
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I know if I had vesti to wishlist I wont get her

shell hazel
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vesti is the one to actually invest for now I reckon

quartz rover
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I've not gotten standard ticket ssrs in a while

quick lake
quartz rover
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If I have ewha can I use vesti in pve?

cursive pike
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i have mana built! CA has been brutal on my resources. so far built viper, poli and pepper - and i think all are now benched

shell hazel
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her pve perf isn't amazing but she'd work if you lacked other good dps/fire raid

quick lake
cursive pike
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i do have nero and moran well built too!

shell hazel
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then imo vesti next, it's what I'm doing

quick lake
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I still think quiry is better than mana CrownHUH

shell hazel
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but mana has use in other areas of the game ๐Ÿ™‚

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quiry is basically only good in the one team in the one mode

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I'd throw mana into a team if I wanted a healer for a raid thing

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or in the towers

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they might just kill themselves on a max core jackal link tbh with the double proc especially

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lock in Zanta! champ run poggies

worthy sorrel
shell hazel
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only thing that can ruin your day on that one is if you kill one of their units and rosa snipes your scar

worthy sorrel
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looks real good

shell hazel
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yeah I ran my own product 23 in CA once out of respect prayge

quartz rover
umbral belfry
shell hazel
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he would be

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I can work out if I can possibly lose spa 1 right based on time remaining and my current points?

quartz rover
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Why the F did my siren do so much damage

shell hazel
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there are 5 days left and I have 114699 points, assuming I stay 1 for another 20 mins that is 200 more points. so 114900 basically with 5 days remaining

fluid dagger
quartz rover
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I don't remember what myb1 rock per t9m siren had

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Think its just ammo and an atk

shell hazel
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she's hitting p1 jackal who is iron code

quartz rover
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Since jackal is kinda bugged rn I need jackal to outspeed a jackal?

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Also sr15 jackal nice

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bro is goated

floral kiln
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does charge speed lines affect pvp?

shell hazel
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for RL units and SR units basically yes

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for everyone else no

shell hazel
gaunt viper
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How to beat this comp please and thank you. trying to beat before reset prayge

twilit bay
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Their Mana and Nero don't have SR 15 dolls

shell hazel
umbral belfry
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ty regardless!

shell hazel
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their scarlet nuke gets tanked by noah and then you just cindy them to death

quartz rover
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When youre at that high of syncs can you still just snipe their only b1 in p5 (even if defender)

floral kiln
twilit bay
gaunt viper
floral kiln
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So I know I missed the Vesti convo but I heard she is good in pvp?

shell hazel
shell hazel
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also biscuit not really needed here as noah does the blocking for you for damage

gaunt viper
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It was kinda an old comp I used as my Noah for a while. I had the issue back then there my Noah kept dying to someone.

shell hazel
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SR-15 and tempura cube

gaunt viper
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SR5 pain

shell hazel
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she should be pretty tanky, and rumani acts as backup b1 if she does happen to die

gaunt viper
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I realized i had a typo

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like a bad one

shell hazel
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oh, yeah for noah just gotta be careful of sirens, noah should also be SR-15 with tempura cube if you can ๐Ÿ˜„

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but I mean it's 2RL not like she needs to live for long

fathom rock
gaunt viper
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Noah is 11% CS no ammo so luckily Siren isnt an issue anymore

shell hazel
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if the opponent has a similar comp with siren re-arrange a bit if you want:
noise rumani cindy helmt noah

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that prevents your noah from easily taunting their siren

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I've seen opponent noise/noah taunt your noah which in turn taunts their siren ๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt viper
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But thats what the no ammo 11% CS is for tho ๐Ÿค”

fathom rock
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Where is rail pepehmmm

gaunt viper
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I think Rail was the one that told me that one KEKW

fathom rock
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11cs on team to avoid b2 being stun by siren in 2rl?

gaunt viper
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Thank you for the help @shell hazel

shell hazel
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I just find lobbing noah on the end can prevent weird things ๐Ÿ˜„

lunar pawn
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mm what could I have done better here? also, how did that blanc indom trigger? I'd like to believe I didn't feed that much so he could jump to 2rl from 3rl

shell hazel
jagged mesa
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@placid bloom proudly sending you my first friendship point

floral kiln
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im assuming characters that sub and tank should be on tempering then?

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might have to move my cubes around a bit then

placid bloom
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poggies you sent me hearts

lunar pawn
umbral belfry
placid bloom
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we are now lovers CrownHUH

shell hazel
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it's hard to 2RL scar indom to death with jackal now as they feed so much

gaunt viper
twilit bay
fathom rock
shell hazel
umbral belfry
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ty for testing!

shell hazel
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you want them to run indom vesti into indom vesti? ๐Ÿ˜„

lunar pawn
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t3 isn't indom vesti

fathom rock
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No indom vesti on that unprotect noah

shell hazel
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oh I thought it was the recorded one above

umbral belfry
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iirc she only loses to scar rosa and slower indom

lunar pawn
umbral belfry
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*as of confirmed clips

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but I prolly missed some

fathom rock
floral kiln
# umbral belfry meta

whoa what does her burst do that makes her that crazy? better than cindy and emilia?

gaunt viper
fathom rock
lunar pawn
umbral belfry
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beats noah teams, beats scar no rosa, beats nero moran

shell hazel
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ah I watched in full now I see ๐Ÿ™‚

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yeah indom vesti t3 gg

fathom rock
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I forgot p3 cindy lol, you should be fine

umbral belfry
floral kiln
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thats interesting i'll build her

umbral belfry
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she just hits like a truck and can kill off p1-p3 wind / sometimes neutral

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like trina p2

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pre burst mind you

lunar pawn
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he'll probably get his spot back immediately though, feels pointless to attack now

swift mango
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Doesn't really matter to me. ShiftyDerp

floral kiln
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i'll start building her then

shell hazel
fathom rock
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Almost all defs in rookie are beatable just by vetsi alone KEKW

lunar pawn
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so jackal gives double burst gen from feeds now?

gaunt viper
lunar pawn
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doable?

floral kiln
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whats vesti skill investment? 10 on burst?

shell hazel
umbral belfry
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s1 you can 4-7

floral kiln
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got it

harsh lake
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In CA, is treasure poli > viper on SG comp? Given that poli isnโ€™t on P1 for opponentโ€™s burst gen

lunar pawn
umbral belfry
river moat
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is rumani good for pvp

umbral belfry
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one of the must have for burst gen so yes

harsh lake
shell hazel
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no purple RL dolls on the gamba ๐Ÿ™

umbral belfry
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I'd say xanne > viper or poli depending

shell hazel
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xanne is not a SG unit though, so if you want an extra SG focus then it's poli or viper again haha

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I'll get Vesti SR-5 on tomorrow SR ๐Ÿ™‚

umbral belfry
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I feel that xanne revival and big atk buff makes a difference though

shell hazel
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yeah only issue with xanne is potential new b2 in the future that does better

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and you probably want some dupes

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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but maybe you get away with 1 copy for CA

umbral belfry
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I think so

shell hazel
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she's relatively safe at p3 or w/e

umbral belfry
shell hazel
lunar pawn
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mm vesti can't handle cindy

umbral belfry
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dunno what tests you're running but mine wins CrownHUH

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think there's other vids outside of mine showing that too

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some with noise others without

lunar pawn
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did multiple tests

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but here, a slightly higher cp, basically eats all of vesti's rockets unflinching

gaunt viper
shell hazel
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if you've built a variety of units just change your team every day or so, to random shit ๐Ÿ˜„

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my current def

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4 defenders and a helm

gaunt viper
river moat
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does maid mast and maid anchor make a pvp duo

shell hazel
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I've cycled a lot of defences but generally you want jackal somewhere

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helm somewhere for burst gen

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noah is good in general for defence

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you can sort of play with stuff a bit outside of that

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according to grok I need to hold C1 for about 24 hours in the next 5 day period to ensure I get SPA 1 at the end vs the guy who keeps stealing it off me

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assuming only swapping back and forth between 1-2 which is accurate so far

fathom rock
north brook
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rookie will always be jackal helm noah, really just depends what u flex since thats the strongest defensive+gen core team

shell hazel
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I build stuff for CA so I can have some fun running units most people in my rookie don't bother with

twilit bay
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Your goal is to make them burst faster?

shell hazel
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no watch it carefully

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it's a meme comp of sorts

lunar pawn
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like, the stun was going to noah, how did it land on jackal

twilit bay
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Ohhh

fathom rock
lunar pawn
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why cindy though

shell hazel
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defender p1

fathom rock
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To make enemy hit p2

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Then rosa can't be hit so go to p3

shell hazel
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also enemy helm loses burst gen to cindy decoy

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as SR does not skip cindy

lunar pawn
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but how does cindy get skipped

shell hazel
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decoy

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rosa conceal = only valid target is jackal at p3

lunar pawn
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I thought rosa only concealed herself?

shell hazel
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cindy decoy = p1 skipped

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rosa conceal = p2 skipped

lunar pawn
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cindy in p1 should give double burst gen, she isn't skipped

shell hazel
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she is skipped by rl

fathom rock
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She gives 1.5x burst gen because rocket launcher hits p2 instead ShiftyDed

lunar pawn
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so how are RLs generating double gen on her if she can't be targeted?

shell hazel
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they don't

lunar pawn
placid bloom
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she can't be targeted but she can be splashed

shell hazel
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they hit p2/p3/p4 instead via jackal

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with main target at p3

gaunt viper
lunar pawn
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interesting comp

so interesting I won't use it because my opps will also find it interesting how they can cp gap me more easily KEKL

shell hazel
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๐Ÿ˜„

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I wouldn't worry about it honestly that much - let them hit you 5 times or w/e

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play around with your defences if you want, it will give them some headaches, I had a guy doing that to me and I vanquished them by making them make errors

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it's better if you can throw in random stuff like rosanna or moran though

lunar pawn
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does the enemy not generate burst gen on decoys?

shell hazel
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or soda ๐Ÿ˜„

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helm gens less on decoy than usual

lunar pawn
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doable then?

shell hazel
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you want biscuit here if you can

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she gives defenders immunity

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same layout i used

lunar pawn
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ah, rip my own burst gen then

shell hazel
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you can drop to 1.454M without being in deficit even if biscuit loses some cp

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jackal gens a lot for you here

placid bloom
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it's 2RL 2SR so you don't get that much

lunar pawn
placid bloom
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you might die before burst

lunar pawn
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even with bugged gen I don't think that cooks

shell hazel
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try it whats to lose ๐Ÿ™‚

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record if possible

lunar pawn
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fair enough, yolo

shell hazel
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it's rookie right?

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yolo indeed

lunar pawn
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ofc

shell hazel
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I didn't see anyone else run it yet, it's a dumb comp but it just kind of worked for me lol

urban mulch
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i hate my new bracket keep getting mogged ๐Ÿฅ€

lunar pawn
shell hazel
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not miles off haha

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if you wanted to beat that comp I presume you can?

charred vigil
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how to win 2RL(close to 2RL) bestie+blanc?

lunar pawn
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probably, just testing stuff rn

shell hazel
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was worth the ๐Ÿฟ thanks for sending ๐Ÿ™‚

lunar pawn
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gotta improve vesti's lines

shell hazel
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yeah, she lost to the vampiric heal

lunar pawn
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curious how she didn't in the other fight

umbral belfry
charred vigil
umbral belfry
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I would say rosa but don't think she'd nuke tempering vesti

umbral belfry
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so a 2.5 or 3rl version of that

fathom rock
lunar pawn
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what lines/gear do I reroll first for tvesti?

charred vigil
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does anyone know what's vestie's burst gen now?

shell hazel
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her heal is based on damage so she heals more/quicker

lunar pawn
umbral belfry
lunar pawn
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should I lock anything pepehmmm

shell hazel
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rerolling that middle line crit dmg is going to suck though

umbral belfry
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you want both ammo and cs so I'd lock those unless you feel lucky today CrownHUH

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chest would be easiest

shell hazel
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chest seems the more obvious one but it's 3 rocks a go pepehmmm

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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for atk % / ele %

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atk % probably better

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could also gun for a good line 3 on the gloves to start with though the two lines you got are decent

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but then usual line 3 => temp lock => line 1 + 2 gamba

lunar pawn
shell hazel
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oh you full re-rolling it, I figured you'd just roll the line 1

lunar pawn
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all rocks gone

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nothing good

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as usual

shell hazel
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yeah that is the way it usually goes for me too

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I hate the rock rng - it's rng to get rocks and then rng to spend them

umbral belfry
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2/3 ideal lines again but Sadge

lunar pawn
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only keeper lines for me is if I see atk+ele

shell hazel
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you do need some ammo though for sure

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think 2 decent ammo rolls is the min people seem to rec

lunar pawn
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also anyone got a better website than that nikke deck app? I hate how they slapped symbols instead of percentages

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spaghetti coded

twilit bay
swift mango
shell hazel
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work is good but I think it's more work to add teams to

twilit bay
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yeah, more customizable

shell hazel
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like I use work to check exact timings but the deck is so much quicker to do quick stuff on

grand plaza
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Can you help me improve this?

Maybe I should try to make 2 good teams but honestly I am not sure how sadcatC

fathom rock
swift mango
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Now go max her out and Moran solo. ShiftyDerp

fathom rock
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101010 sr15 rn gear wip

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Is c3 hopefully more dupe come

lunar pawn
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can I request SR challenge to be released a day early prayge

fathom rock
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You can but will devs care pepehmmm

lunar pawn
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as much as they care about CA

fathom rock
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Is this 2.5rl with 15cs helm

shell hazel
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just about

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but more CS on helm speeds it up a bit

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cs on rapu/xmaiden doesn't change your speed on this team

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it's all in on Helm CS

fathom rock
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I just wanna try new def instead of the p1 cind I was running, seems it stopped working

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Nero and rapu still lacking ols but funny enough only the bracket whale can cp gap it

shell hazel
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if you run Mana instead of XMaiden then that team needs CS on HelmT and Rapu

fathom rock
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I don't have mana pain

shell hazel
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I don't mean to do it as such just to say that you need to set the CS by the units in the team

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on the comp you show only HelmT cs changes it

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but it can vary depending who you run

clear folio
fathom rock
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You 1st tho still

clear folio
fathom rock
clear folio
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crown/rapi ok hmmz CrownHUH

placid bloom
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Biscuit p1 technology

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This looks like auto build team pepehmmm

clear folio
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p1 bisc

fathom rock
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And no defender

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Looks awfully fimiliar...

glad meteor
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And he gems

clear folio
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centi burst with blanc hmmz

glad meteor
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But whale vs whale is different for him prob

fathom rock
umbral belfry
spare nimbus
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which between the two is better?

glad meteor
spare nimbus
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there we go

glad meteor
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Prob left pepehmmm

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But xmaiden is bugged

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Her p1 damage is x2

spare nimbus
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oh that's cool

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i thiink with laplace it might survive rosanna burst

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bruh

rose oracle
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<@&946725432554836008>

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ty AliceLove

worthy sorrel
fathom rock
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Fighting for 1st over 2nd is wild concept I will never understand

worthy sorrel
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probably matters more if 2nd is dealing with getting hit. feels like 2nd can get sniped a lot. idt anyone is hitting ace though

clear folio
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if only he was a folian we could test teams ๐Ÿ˜”

worthy sorrel
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make friends Blancyay

clear folio
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hime bullied, he shy CrownHUH

keen vapor
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@violet spoke wake up, you got attacked NeonPoint

fathom rock
clear folio
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lol think jwoz wins, didnt deck tho

fathom rock
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Same

rose oracle
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Retro S8 is clearable at 321 right? pepehmmm

fathom rock
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I did s8 at 301 I have no say in this

rose oracle
fathom rock
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Why you same pfp as yousri

fathom rock
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Actually I might do s9 if alice enough buff pepehmmm

keen vapor
shell hazel
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woogie you know what to do

rose oracle
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what is Alice doing? wahahaha

fathom rock
shell hazel
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also they can copy your teams but they can't copy your CS lines ๐Ÿ˜„

rose oracle
fathom rock
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Alice s1 buffs sbs

clear folio
fathom rock
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One day I send Ace a "message" clueless

shell hazel
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you can probably still beat them even if they're +40 sync

shell hazel
fathom rock
clear folio
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idk p1 bisc tech might be a problem hmmz

rose oracle
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what da hell is that team wahahaha

clear folio
fathom rock
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@swift mango do you pay for cd, start 1st of Feb 2024 right?

shell hazel
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Retro number one!

umbral belfry
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k PLEASE

glad meteor
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Thereโ€™s 100 dr. Sbs has no chance without blanc

rose oracle
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why is your moron core 3? CrownHUH

fathom rock
shell hazel
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๐Ÿณ

rose oracle
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that's her name right? ShiftyDerp

shell hazel
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i'm f2p btw (as is Hime)

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-# and Aceross

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Retro is the evil whale CrownHUH

fathom rock
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Idk its how my acc got distributed

rose oracle
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I'm 23 levels below you susge

shell hazel
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see. whaling for dust

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and he has MLB vesti

fathom rock
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I had spare pulls hehhh

shell hazel
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these all sound like excuses to me

clear folio
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not even maxcore vesti smh

shell hazel
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we're just baby minnows f2p

fathom rock
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No credit card ChimeKisama

shell hazel
fathom rock
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I still have this

shell hazel
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multiple!?

fathom rock
shell hazel
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it's time to swipe

fathom rock
shell hazel
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I can't you're the mega whale here sadcatC

fathom rock
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I didnt spend a cent anchorded

shell hazel
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multiple dollars instead!?

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I'm not even rich enough to click this button

fathom rock
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Bro im normal sync for non brick in the bracket sadcatC

shell hazel
fathom rock
#

Ok maybe I push campaign too hard but that's beside the point

rose oracle
shell hazel
#

this box contains a purple RL doll for Vesti

#

just gotta manifest it

#

spoiler || it did not ||

fathom rock
tropic summit
fathom rock
#

Same progress but huge stat difd

#

Othe local whale thi

tropic summit
#

just swipe the card and get advantage, ez

#

f2p style

shell hazel
#

what sync is jwoz?

fathom rock
#

367

shell hazel
#

could push more tbh but not insanely far off

#

my 404 guy is challenged

fathom rock
#

Ace is still on cc smh

clear folio
#

dont look at mine i do campaign with pvp CrownHUH

shell hazel
#

Ace!

fathom rock
tropic summit
clear folio
#

lmao

shell hazel
rose oracle
shell hazel
#

mine is

fathom rock
shell hazel
#

my 404 whale is stuck at 27

tropic summit
fathom rock
tropic summit
#

he's nero moran in HM

shell hazel
#

yeah ๐Ÿ˜„

fathom rock
#

That's not pushing campaign that's pushing the upload button for a meme, repesct

shell hazel
#

the biggest joke of all is despite all of the back and forth, I only need to hold chal 1 for about a day of the 5 left and it's basically assured I wind up as spot 1

quartz rover
#

can i replace centi with helmt?

fathom rock
#

Why they still idle n102scared

shell hazel
#

how much effort the whale puts into trying to take it, is all for nothing in the end ๐Ÿ˜›

clear folio
fathom rock
quartz rover
fathom rock
shell hazel
#

did you see the replays earlier Rail? SG team did not win ๐Ÿ™

tropic summit
#

no i haven't watched

shell hazel
#

it wasn't great, I kind of expected it

tropic summit
#

you tried the other aswell?

shell hazel
#

I won with kuwon help

fathom rock
shell hazel
#

indom comp

quartz rover
#

it's defense and I doubt these guys are using cindy p1

quartz rover
#

now I can fit centi somewhere

fathom rock
#

Pve gamer with pvp disguise sadge

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

match 1 is the only one to see

glad meteor
rose oracle
#

Retro for the top 11 top people in our bracket 3 of them are stuck at mother whale NoahCat + how do I crown

tropic summit
#

try beat it without mirroring, you won't learn much with that

shell hazel
#

sure but I just needed to win before the reset and I sent the SG team first to see how it did ๐Ÿ˜„

glad meteor
#

With vesti release madge

shell hazel
#

my issue is my sg comp ol's are just cp padding mostly

#

if they were actually a threat it would have won I think

#

it's initial OL and nothing more

quartz rover
#

like replacing moran right here? poggies

shell hazel
#

but siren took too long to die on the link basically

tropic summit
#

ye i saw

#

unlike chinnits SGs yours didn't deal much dmg, invest makes a huge difference with SGs i guess

fathom rock
tropic summit
#

your rosanna dmg on the other hand was on point

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there's also the fact jackal feed is broken atm anyway

#

arena as a whole atm is kind of demotivating because everything is just banged up

#

spaghetti code and SU refusal of fixing it so far

shell hazel
#

yeah I need some good atk/ele lines mostly on SG's

#

I have bigger fish to fry though, namely my Scar rolls

#

they may turn around and fix it in a future update but it's likely not until the current banner trio ends

glad meteor
#

su donโ€™t give a damn lol

#

Only care about sr

tropic summit
#

i dunno if i'd go as far as saying they care for SR

#

when it got cancalled 3 times in a row last time

shell hazel
#

only care about their wallets? ๐Ÿ˜„

tropic summit
#

because it was working as intended

glad meteor
#

Though most people donโ€™t care about pvp. If not top 10 it not even worth checking sp hmmz

signal hull
#

Any way I could deal with this guy without risk?
I have all characters (except Emilia and Mana.) and I "kind of" can beat him, but it's more of a 50/50 and yesterday he got ahead by that "20 levels" CP boost, so I've lost a couple times and when I lose I get mad and gem up, so I'd rather avoid it ๐Ÿ˜„

tropic summit
#

tbh nikke atm for me is at its lowest low

#

they better not screw up exploration mode

glad meteor
#

Was looking forward to RE collab till i saw jill design. They made her into anime girl

tropic summit
#

triple parallel banners, lack of QoLs, pvp got that AFK arena mode, bugs and spaghetti code

not looking hot

quartz rover
#

jk it's a sr

tropic summit
tropic summit
#

@shell hazel @glad meteor @umbral crown 61 level difference, still finding ways to get this guy KEKW

spiral onyx
umbral crown
#

Mine is like lv5, maybe you.missing coree, better lines, doll or skill investment

keen vapor
#

Really haven't got that problem again

tropic summit
#

sad that feature was removed hmmz

#

@shell hazel @swift mango @umbral belfry @fathom rock @pale knoll @keen vapor

popcorn worthy pepehmmm ๐Ÿฟ

pale knoll
#

Gg

tropic summit
torn pumice
#

Finally landed the Michelin recipe

umbral belfry
hollow lagoon
#

@nimble swan not champ yet, only if I win it KEKW

rose oracle
#

how did the first team win ShiftyDerp

umbral crown
umbral crown
nimble swan
fathom rock
#

Me def still yet to win once against the 3 peeps attacking me sadge

spiral onyx
north brook
#

vesti actually just wiping opp team with rh b1 at 1.6rl KEKW

floral kiln
#

thats a lil nutty

violet spoke
hollow lagoon
#

Idk I think it can go either way

keen vapor
ionic rose
#

shoulda put that through nikke deck first

unreal latch
#

whats the ol line to look for vesti pvp

keen vapor
#

Is always attack ele max ammo clueless

ionic rose
#

idk if keripo had enough rocks but he just went full damage

keen vapor
ionic rose
#

but doesnt vesti's 3 shot reset on reload? or every time she charge 2 seconds she gets it?

keen vapor
#

On reload

#

That's why max ammo

violet spoke
ionic rose
keen vapor
keen vapor
ionic rose
keen vapor
#

Yes

ionic rose
#

so after Vesti fires those 3 shots doesnt her shots have a 2 second charge speed until she reloads?

keen vapor
#

Maybe you were looking for the refreshing word

unreal latch
fast harness
#

Max ammo increases the amount of time she has before reloading, having her Max ammo be divisible by 4 makes sure each full charge is her full damage

keen vapor
#

This minmaxing omg susge

ionic rose
fast harness
keen vapor
#

She will never do a long charge until reloading

placid bloom
#

if you are PvE you will want x4 divisible ammo yes

placid bloom
#

but she is ass in PvE anyway clueless

#

feels like a lot of rock for little payoff

keen vapor
ionic rose
placid bloom
#

she does blocks of 4 shots

fast harness
#

Incorrect she will full charge every 4th shot

keen vapor
fast harness
#

Full charge once fire 4 shots, then repeat

keen vapor
placid bloom
#

just look at her weapon, this is why she can fire 4 shot at a time hmmz

#

just think of her long charge speed as reloading, except she has to do an extra reload when she actually runs out of ammo

ionic rose
keen vapor
fast harness
placid bloom
#

I mean you can play around having awkward ammo by manually reloading

#

but if you have awkward ammo it's gonna feel bad to auto

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especially if you have 1 ammo remaining, you charge 2s fire 1 rocket and then reload for 2s followed by another 2s charge hmmz

#

literally spending 6s+ to fire 1 shot

keen vapor
#

But like, we already accepted the Stellar Blade 2D adaptation shrug

keen vapor
#

It seems like not Bastion

placid bloom
#

for PvP you can bastion since you don't want the fight to actually last until you have to reload

#

for PvE probably resilience cuz Bastion will screw your ammo if you have perfect ammo pepehmmm

raven plover
radiant coral
#

do not let him enjoy the fruits of his labor

raven plover
#

yes TimiProud

twilit bay
#

what magical teams are you using?SurprisedAnneFace

raven plover
#

he prolly testing besti def, its not even decent teams clueless

twilit bay
#

Oh, makes sense

ionic rose
#

welp i could only core 5 Besti not lucky enough

#

so her official name is Besti now, right

ionic rose
ionic rose
#

send him a mystery monthly pass to show appreciation of effort

#

which might actually scare the shit out of em btw cos 330 gems come outta nowhere he prolly gonna think he got hacked

nimble swan
# hollow lagoon Idk I think it can go either way

As I checked more thoroughly yeah.. crazy the guy is less commander level than me by a few levels, but has better invested units than you. (At least in dolls, idk about OL lines) Lots of SR15s..so you might lose r4 for example.
I cheered on you anyway, we will see soon cocoathumb

hollow lagoon
nimble swan
#

yep

hollow lagoon
#

Nah

nimble swan
#

guy has SR15 Noise, Noah, Cindy - I don't remember the rest

hollow lagoon
#

Sure his Noah have black doll

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But mine is core 7

nimble swan
#

i checked without glasses so barely saw the cores lol

hollow lagoon
#

Is noise is thicker tho

#

But my Cinderella is more invested

#

Could go either way

#

Tho this shit could go so long that burst cycle 2 happens

#

In which case I could lose

nimble swan
#

your SBS or RH has higher ATK? or is that team 3RL by any chance?

hollow lagoon
#

My indom is dead

nimble swan
#

ok i thought that's the case

hollow lagoon
#

I donโ€™t think it can go through that stall

#

But similarly his indom is also dead

nimble swan
#

his indom has some buff by mAnchor, and now SBS bugged

#

idk if it's enough to kill you

hollow lagoon
#

Anchor is not much of a buff

nimble swan
#

you win r5 for sure

#

r1 probably?

hollow lagoon
#

I hope I win r5 lol

#

R1 Iโ€™m def I think?

nimble swan
#

yea

hollow lagoon
#

So that scarlet will kill me

#

Cuz defending sg hits p5

#

I donโ€™t think my bay make it in time

#

Entire match is hinged on t4 basically

nimble swan
#

i was coping, i saw 2.5RL bay winning

hollow lagoon
#

Nah unlikely

#

They need to kill one of my unit for Rosa to accelerate

#

And Iโ€™m not shooting at scarlet

nimble swan
#

ok so it will all depend on r4

hollow lagoon
#

Ye

nimble swan
#

guy doesn't have much more overall CP than me though, I had the same basically, his sg is more invested, but i have other units more invested..

hollow lagoon
#

Wouldent matter much

#

Entire thing is dependent on t4

#

My noise sux tho

nimble swan
#

yeah i saw, mine is kinda invested

hollow lagoon
#

Max core noise is excessive

nimble swan
#

sr15 etc

hollow lagoon
#

I donโ€™t even use her for spa

nimble swan
#

lol I do

hollow lagoon
#

And sheโ€™s useless for pve

nimble swan
#

Idk about your bracket but mine is super competitive

#

full of sweats

hollow lagoon
#

My bracket is competitive but itโ€™s not my business

nimble swan
#

and i'm like lowest synchro in top10

hollow lagoon
nimble swan
#

alright I see they can't really beat you

#

which banner did you start the game?

hollow lagoon
#

The Korean guyโ€™s sync is getting awfully close to being below 100 sync gap tho

nimble swan
#

yeah, that's good, i missed it

umbral belfry
nimble swan
#

started end of flora banner, but started really playing on xmas event

hollow lagoon
#

Missing Cinderella is not as bad as missing siren

hollow lagoon
umbral belfry
nimble swan
#

I got all necessary units, only missing snow white now but surely i wouldn't build her

hollow lagoon
#

At my current cp gap I can fight rest of the entire bracket at the same time and it wonโ€™t do muchKEKW

nimble swan
#

my only regret is not mlb-ing siren with tickets

hollow lagoon
nimble swan
#

lol

#

you know i did 500 pulls on siren and mihara banner together

hollow lagoon
#

Small white is very useful for mother whale

nimble swan
#

i had 0 mihara, needed to tix her, and i got 1 siren

hollow lagoon
#

lol I did 600 and mlbed both

#

I ticketed siren to get 2+core

nimble swan
#

yeah i bought another copy, so lb1 now

#

pilgrim molds 0/6 so far and sitting on 2

#

i'm not opening until i hoard like 4

hollow lagoon
#

My pilgrim molds have been 50/50

nimble swan
#

that's how it should go normally

#

but got MLB SDoro in 120 pulls so that was lucky

#

I need to invest more in my sg, and start to build CS on units

hollow lagoon
#

I just max treasured my Tove

#

As in phase 3

nimble swan
#

I'm starting to build her soon, my bay needs a few more mats to be finished

#

but one issue is I don't have LaplaceTr, lb1 and i can't get another one

#

but maybe i do what i did with viper, i got home drunk af, spent all my standard vouchers and woke up and saw i have viper now KEKW

hollow lagoon
#

I like my Laplace T

#

Decent PvP and decent PvE

#

Rolls ainโ€™t great but works enough

nimble swan
#

yeah, my 2RL bay would go well with her

hollow lagoon
#

My bay is phase 2

nimble swan
#

idk i'm running 2RL bay, my moran is sr15 and nero is sr10, but no CS so it's slow

hollow lagoon
#

But my bay has only pink chest

nimble swan
#

mine is fully invested

#

phase 3 in a few days

hollow lagoon
#

Phase 3 is a bit excessive but waifu is lifu

nimble swan
#

cover repair is not that bad though

#

idk if i should switch to nero moran without enough CS

hollow lagoon
#

Does look good

#

I guess Iโ€™ll work towards it

#

Since poli donโ€™t seem so hot

nimble swan
#

nah i'm not even sure if i will treasure her

#

she gives extra burst gen to the opponent, xAnne is better imo

#

if there will be rerun

frank spear
#

So vesti is good?

nimble swan
#

yea

frank spear
#

Thx, what cube should i use

nimble swan
#

she needs ammo so i would use bastion

frank spear
#

Thanks

hollow lagoon
#

I just need raid to gib me 2 batteries of either resilience or bastion so I can 8 them both

nimble swan
#

so guess you invested in quantum and tempering

#

i have lv10 resi and lv9 bastion and now starting to invest in quantum and tempering

hollow lagoon
#

Level 7 resilience, level 7 bastion, level 7 quantum, level 7 destruction

#

My tempering is bad

nimble swan
#

mine just got lv4 now CrustDerp

hollow lagoon
#

Tempering?

nimble swan
#

yeah

hollow lagoon
#

Mineโ€™s 4 yeah

umbral crown
hollow lagoon
umbral crown
#

Nice, i just hit 421 today

hollow lagoon
#

Nice

umbral crown
#

We similar cp

nimble swan
umbral crown
hollow lagoon
nimble swan
#

he's in another bracket AdmiOno

hollow lagoon
#

Yep

#

Much older

umbral crown
#

Yeah

nimble swan
#

you have emi and sanis both, right?

hollow lagoon
#

I need 481 so I can get thru mirror container

umbral crown
#

In top 6 im the only 421 besides the whale 518 the rest are 444+

umbral crown
hollow lagoon
umbral crown
#

Oh

nimble swan
umbral crown
#

Then emiless as well

umbral crown
nimble swan
#

we both don't have sanis nor emi CrustDerp

#

that whale though

#

has crazy cp

umbral crown
#

He started getting more cp when i was able to break his defenss with 60-70.levels gap

#

First time was when i 287 beat 350 or something

#

Last time inwas 341 and he was 410

hollow lagoon
#

I had to deal with a whale before, then I became the whale

umbral crown
#

Waos

hollow lagoon
#

I fought that whale in a death match in rookie

#

Once I found counter team of his defense I kept attacking him Till he quit

umbral crown
#

To be in range with my whale i need at least 481 boost today

hollow lagoon
umbral crown
#

I can do fine if i get at least 40-50 levels gap but not 97

hollow lagoon
#

Then I became the first treasure helm owner of the entire bracket and I was annihilating my bracket for a week

nimble swan
#

Yeah we had a same kind of guy

umbral crown
hollow lagoon
#

I saved the random treasure material boxes and when helmโ€™s treasure was released I opened them and had a head start

umbral crown
#

When i defeated the whale first time i had nero team and helmT ready, he stayed C2 for a week and came back with helm max core treasured along with laplace

hollow lagoon
#

The rookie bracket went from they can fight back after Iโ€™m done attacking to utterly oppressed

umbral crown
#

Even an invested rosanna

hollow lagoon
#

Iโ€™m the first person to invest rosana in my rookie bracket

umbral crown
#

You were practically teaching how things are done

hollow lagoon
#

I was

#

Yeah they literal copies whatever I was running

umbral crown
#

They were learning

#

Trusting the process

hollow lagoon
#

But now it wonโ€™t matter since I gap them by 100 sync thx to them being stuck to mother whale

#

Only the Korean broke thru it

#

The hard mother whale that is

#

Wait wtf co-op

umbral crown
#

I had to wait till close to 381 since i have no pve investment

#

Coop today poggies

#

Time to get bones

hollow lagoon
#

Channel ainโ€™t open

#

Eahhhhhhh

#

Iโ€™ll go sleep first

umbral crown
torn pumice
#

Lmaooo

#

Ok enough gloating but vesti is great.

sonic sonnet
#

How is their summer anis healing back to full health instantly even after tanking Cinderella burst down to 1 hp? I donโ€™t think anis has any self healing in her own kit and the burst drops everyone except jackal Noah and anis

vapid lake
#

U stun noah then biscuit burst and biscuit gives support units a lot of lifesteal

sonic sonnet
#

oh

#

Thanks AliceLove

umbral belfry
urban mulch
#

what a hater, im literally rank 24 and bro was still attacking me

vapid lake
#

TimiProud hoboman time to scold ur union member for bullying

iron jungle
#

Yo old-timers, what's the deal with Tvesti?

#

Is it a bug, a feature?

#

And who would you pair/team her up with?

umbral crown
urban mulch
#

bro just hating

umbral crown
#

its your time to sending him the message back, go 10x

urban mulch
#

(I may or may not have attacked him like 15x on the last day)

vapid lake
#

madge ok hoboman get the rest of ur union to bully the bully

urban mulch
#

hey

#

he still ended rank 1

#

what he hating for

ivory violet
#

Hitting the same person over and over is good fun

glad meteor
near plank
#

does this win? 2 rl vs 3 rl

#

and this should win too right

tropic summit
umbral crown
near plank
umbral crown
#

siren gonna stun scar, RH gonna do B3 and then besto vesti gonna delete your team

near plank
#

need a specific team to counter it

umbral crown
#

against besto vesti she does not really have a counter yet

#

you could try if your rosanna strong enough to kill her

twilit bay
#

That specific team has a counter though, right? Probably would have won if Scarlet had less ammo

near plank
#

rossana not invested, and definitely not gonna waste rocks to reroll scarlet

twilit bay
#

Could 2RL zombie scarlet with jackal p1 work?

#

Or maybe 3RL zombie SBS

shell hazel
#

and it's a member of counters! poggies

swift mango
shell hazel
orchid prism
#

Anyone know what the skill investment looks like for vesti TU

north brook
#

4/7/7 (cope budget) 4/10/10 (decent) 10/10/10 (cp pad op pvp unit)

iron jungle
#

Hi guys quick question, I'm a new player uuuhhh could I realistically beat this team?

#

This is my current team right now...

swift mango
#

My mast CrownHUH

iron jungle
#

Damn, sorry I forgot to change discord channels...

swift mango
#

But I would surely pick this team to attack when there is a arena mission. pain

#

You could still always get Enty skill to activate back to back and win with her being immortal anyway. cocoathumb

fast jetty
#

is it that moran + helm just counter my scarlet or something?

maybe I can run some helm burst comp for their scarlet but my noah is busy in their cindy..

or maybe I can move scarlet + siren to their noah team and nuke out their cindy and do cindy vs their helm moran or noah + Helm vs their scar

fast jetty
shell hazel
#

2RL Bay counters your Scarlet

#

or thereabouts anyway

worldly osprey
fast jetty
fast jetty
iron jungle
#

Sorry for asking, it's just that I started playing it like less than 50 days ago.

fast jetty
#

I didn't drop it
run this

iron jungle
#

I can't wait for the anniversary.

fast jetty
fast jetty
#

just less involved than nikke's since nikke's more complicated and more units

iron jungle
iron jungle
iron jungle
fast jetty
iron jungle
fast jetty
iron jungle
fast jetty
swift mango
#

Just got to the highest rank once was enough for me.

iron jungle
#

I'm in that discord too lol xD

swift mango
iron jungle
fast jetty
#

i also need for somet stupid SR ship

fast jetty
iron jungle
swift mango
fast jetty
#

I disgress, time to turn off

swift mango
fast jetty
#

peak lazy

shell hazel
#

damn blood loves snacks CrownHUH

iron jungle
swift mango
swift mango
iron jungle
#

How long ago was year one?

#

When was the first major event?

swift mango
swift mango
fast jetty
swift mango
iron jungle
#

Wowww, That's actually very impressive bro.

iron jungle
#

When were the Golden years for AL?

swift mango
fast jetty
iron jungle
#

Thank goodness.... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

swift mango
iron jungle
#

Amagi Brilliant Park?

#

I didn't know they had a collab.

swift mango
fast jetty
#

there is also AL anime that i didn't finish watching

iron jungle
swift mango
#

This girl.

iron jungle
#

Nice

#

It's upside down by the way lol

swift mango
fast jetty
iron jungle
#

I Heard the horse girl anime is actually peak...

#

I'm having a hard time believing it myself.

shell hazel
#

I can't see myself getting into the horse girl game tbh

iron jungle
#

Honestly bro, I might pick it up. People talk about it on this server & on the Nikke server and I might pick it up lol

swift mango
#

My old phone home screen for a few years now...

fast jetty
#

the daily is too long. 3-6 train* = 60~90 minutes. Cannot AFK farm. tbh i dont know how long i can sustain it

shell hazel
#

60-90 minute dailies ๐Ÿ˜„

fast jetty
shell hazel
iron jungle
#

Lol I forgot what server I was on for a second... ๐Ÿ’€

iron jungle
fast jetty
#

my PVP question will probably go unanswered in the morning Doro

shell hazel
#

no that is far too long for regular dailies

iron jungle
odd lantern
#

Anyone seeing bugs in noah's invuln?

For example

noah noise biscuit cindy lapT
vs
noah biscuit helm rh rumani

when cindy bursts, noah's invuln is active, however helm dies (no one else is hurt) - I reproduced this twice already.

shell hazel
swift mango