pvp-arena

[quick lake]

indom vesti giga meta i foresee

[acoustic light]

ur tempting me

[umbral belfry]

rip sbs indom

[jagged mesa]

Should I send another 10x? I only have 25k gems

[gritty ridge]

I won't indom vesti

[placid bloom]

we just waiting for bilibili video of strongest Vesti killing enemy p1~3 before burst

[tropic summit]

is it multi hit or 1 hit tankable by bay btw?

[umbral belfry]

it's time

[quartz rover]

guys wheres my vesti

[jagged mesa]

At 381 remaining

[dense kindle]

In the next pull for sure

[quartz rover]

nvm found her

[quick lake]

oh good question. I think the initial small nuke can be tanked by bay. But her follow ups hit extremely hard

[tropic summit]

well this is a problem

[lone sequoia]

emi/rh, i need to fix emi OL first

[vapid lake]

ping me when u guys found out how much cs vesti needs

[tropic summit]

means defense is getting even further f*ked over

[lone sequoia]

30%

[tropic summit]

but i appreciate if it's true damage bypassing deficit def, can hit whels

[quartz rover]

imma do it just to be funny

[placid bloom]

well you don't need to fit all 4 shot by 2RL

even fitting 3rd shot is not bad

[quartz rover]

where is she

[lone sequoia]

we only need 2 before 2RL

[jagged mesa]

This is the one

[quartz rover]

I got a mlb vesti from one pull

can you believe it

[placid bloom]

yes

[quartz rover]

oh well

[tropic summit]

then you wake up

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit have a def change for my na or no

[quartz rover]

if someone takes my spot in spa with a vest imma be mad

[tropic summit]

you mean with vesti included?

[fathom rock]

Ye

[tropic summit]

change your indom team from s.anis/sbs to vesti

opponent will 100% skip it although

[shell hazel]

would you think even if bugged still good? seems like she'd work well as SBS replacement even if her burst gen is higher than it should be?

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1401131097135513610/image.png?ex=68a6e385&is=68a59205&hm=c18371ddeb15f689ee0fdaee9182c734b3338734a40092745c4bec7276ba662f&

[placid bloom]

what if you are 8 ammo Vesti and they don't know, you can bluff

[shell hazel]

I can grab a copy regardless if good

[fathom rock]

I meant this

[tropic summit]

oh the long term def

[umbral belfry]

oh

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

she's c1 on accident LOL

[tropic summit]

that one probably stays unchanged, although you could run her instead of cindy for natural 2RL

[tropic summit]

you weren't gonna stop anyway

[fathom rock]

#gacha-rolls

[jagged mesa]

LOL WHAT

[placid bloom]

imagine she can kill Noah before B2 with double proc bug but not afterward

[acoustic light]

no vesti but wtf

[glacial lion]

16 ammo enough for 1 fb cycle ig

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

shh

[fathom rock]

Can't cs let her do 20

[gritty ridge]

Shes 2% not 1% right?

[jagged mesa]

Alright fine I'm sending another multi SCREW IT

[gritty ridge]

Then why did it take me 90 damn pulls to get her

[jagged mesa]

I'm 0/102 on absolute I quit

[worthy sorrel]

i mean. she was 0.8% for me after 490 pulls
so ymmv

[placid bloom]

hmm if there is no Noise B1 I think the p3 Scarlet dies here

but not 100% sure

it looks close

[tropic summit]

so that vesti was around 28%+, seems consistent with what we said earlier

[umbral belfry]

not bad

[vapid lake]

how much cs ur vesti have ?

[glacial lion]

f, i think bastion messed up her unique atk

[placid bloom]

oh she can kill p3 Scar before burst, at least with double proc bug

Idk about after

[fathom rock]

Also since true damage I can try some deficit gaming with this

[quartz rover]

I think you should keep pulling til you get her or you have no gems

[tropic summit]

the seasonal buff is adding so many questions

[umbral belfry]

SU don't fix

[tropic summit]

yearly buff?

[vapid lake]

if SU dont fix your defense is even more useless than it already is

[tropic summit]

more tools for the attacker, surely can't be unhealthy

[worthy sorrel]

they're going to end up in a cindy situation if everyone is pulling based on the bug and spending money. at some point they'd need to buff to match

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

well Cindy was different because she's pilgrim

this one might actually get nerfed

[fathom rock]

I think pvp is forgotten gamemode so no

[worthy sorrel]

depends on if enough people spending money cause enough bad press

[umbral belfry]

your time has come

[worthy sorrel]

nerfing unit after real money spent is a bad look

[tropic summit]

intern-kun: sir we about to do another emilia
SU: what you mean?
intern-kun: you forgot we've pvp?
SU: who?

[fathom rock]

opens #1047834285287166013 rn

[vapid lake]

how to defend against this

[worthy sorrel]

oh hey am brozne now

[vapid lake]

[umbral belfry]

cup leveled up

[placid bloom]

Rosanna triple sac with revive

[tropic summit]

hi bronze how are you

[vapid lake]

we can't put our b1, biscuit or dps in pos 2-3 anymore

[worthy sorrel]

very fine thank you

[placid bloom]

p5 Rosanna p4 XAnne 2 battery + dps 1~3

[tropic summit]

i've got the solution actually

hold on about to unleash it

[placid bloom]

maybe just put revive on every team

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

[tropic summit]

you ready?

[placid bloom]

Rapu too fast I guess

[dim escarp]

13 multi for mlb

[tropic summit]

here's the counter

[quick lake]

very nice

[eager mountain]

I like to think it’s intentional, cuz the more u think the more it seems to be

[tropic summit]

100% guarantees you win, because you go and do something productive

spaghetti code goes to the trashcan and we all happier

[fathom rock]

If bug vesti p3 pressure high, rapunzel in p3 for stun

[tropic summit]

yes good luck doing that on defense

[fathom rock]

Defense always lose tho

[tropic summit]

i dunno, they've to be taking the wrong kind of mushrooms

they hired some intern-kun that adds pills to their meals regularly

you've to be giving 0 f*ks at all

embrance pve main, the true path to enlightment

[vapid lake]

already playing more single player games than nikke

[scarlet adder]

not much up votes for it #1405545677244858582 message

[eager mountain]

Well potato codes can coexist with specific stat design like this lmfao

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[tropic summit]

the game is no longer broken if everything is broken [c] intern-kun

[placid bloom]

next Nikke they release will have reflect damage to counter Vesti

[vapid lake]

no more MMOs, toxic pvp moba/fps and gacha games not wanting me to play them gives me more time to play stuff in my backlog like this goofy ahhh anti-smoking game

[grand plaza]

I kinda don't want to because it benefits me right now

[fathom rock]

Then there is mobile me with most good titles being gacha

[shell hazel]

waiting to pull still Rail?

[grand plaza]

Very right call, I am gonna replay Bioshock after years when I have the time

[umbral belfry]

done

[shell hazel]

😮

[umbral belfry]

it's testing time soon

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

Wtf how many resources are you sitting on

[eager mountain]

The interns or whoever tf knows enough that those who came so far into nerding pvp won’t easily actually quit the game

[fathom rock]

Hime is whale.

[eager mountain]

[umbral belfry]

yes.

[placid bloom]

just buy the new bundles

ez

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-obvious-thank-you-superhero-super-hero-gif-9900289

[jagged mesa]

I know hime was my oppressor for the past 6 months in rookie and spa

[quick lake]

Used a lot of gold, but got besti to sr15

[umbral belfry]

I said sorry

[tropic summit]

quitting is for losers, suffering for a life time? true chads

[jagged mesa]

Ur my favourite oppressor

Folian left us for wuwa he's out of the running

[tropic summit]

don't worry, he enjoys it

[fathom rock]

Wuwa finished installing I can enjoy

[tropic summit]

till you burn out again

[umbral belfry]

can't believe folian left for wuwa waifus

[jagged mesa]

Some things you don't need to point out okay

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-yinlin-anime-mommy-red-hair-sitting-gif-15799971686483475771

can you blame him?

[umbral belfry]

✂️

[jagged mesa]

Brb installing wuwa

[tropic summit]

✂️

10/10 would ||scissor ||too

[glad meteor]

Goons

[umbral belfry]

you don't got one of those to do that buddy

[dense kindle]

[tropic summit]

it's 2025, surely there are options

[jagged mesa]

How do you know

[umbral belfry]

also are we assuming outside of ele and atk we want cs and ammo?

[jagged mesa]

Be you my friend

[glad meteor]

Time to get creative

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

probably hold off rocks for now imo

[eager mountain]

gl farming echos in wuwa

[tropic summit]

time to ask the genie for the thing you didn't get as a boy

[umbral belfry]

that's fair

[jagged mesa]

Nothing a bit of scotch tape and patience can't fix

[umbral belfry]

well I'm gonna initial OL obvs and see but

[shell hazel]

spend a rock for an OL yeah 🙂

[glad meteor]

I got def max ammo and cs. All 1 liners

[placid bloom]

[quick lake]

If battery, then need cs% on her. If off-burst atker, maybe just do 4atk 2 ammo 6crit but need high ele to kill noah too

[umbral belfry]

I feel like this just cursed me

[glad meteor]

[placid bloom]

4 Atk 4 ele 200% ammo

[glad meteor]

Maybe you cursed me, and therefore cursed youself

[eager mountain]

???

[quick lake]

dont need that much ammo i think. 100% enough i think

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

✂️

[shell hazel]

40 pulls for me to get a copy it's aight, missed 3 random ones but no one great except a Bready 😛

[umbral belfry]

I'm about to do kraken for rocks I better not see a 1 line on vesti ol

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

i'll need the solo raid for SR-5 doll

[fathom rock]

70 for mlb I still dunno if I should be happy

[quartz rover]

I got no t9m or rocks today

[shell hazel]

that's an amazing number for mlb

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[shell hazel]

I got 1 in 40, you got 4 in 70 lol

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[jagged mesa]

I'm 0/102 on absolute I hate you

[umbral belfry]

why didn't you say anything about main dps vesti

[shell hazel]

if i could mlb any 2% in exactly 70 pulls I'd be happy

[eager mountain]

rail is a gurl

[thin perch]

How’s Vesti looking?

[fathom rock]

Anyway I have exactly 13 t9 gear for fodder

[thin perch]

Is she the new Emilia?

[fathom rock]

With bug she looking very very good

[umbral belfry]

pull

[worthy sorrel]

took me 490 to mlb so doin p good at 70

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hkjl-gif-4795217538088161330

[quartz rover]

she's 2??? thought she was 4

[quick lake]

should i mlb. but collab

[tropic summit]

hot cougar in your area @eager mountain

[dim sapphire]

just get good in standard

[quartz rover]

or is it 4% for sr and 2% for vesti

[thin perch]

Collab is an easy skip for me imma mlb Vesti

[jagged mesa]

Wtf

[signal hull]

Any info on Vesti's burst gen?

[umbral belfry]

resident evil

[jagged mesa]

There are too many maniacs in this discord I cant

[tropic summit]

with bugged procc, around clip RL

[thin perch]

Easiest collab skip of my life

[tropic summit]

after bug fixeroni? who knows

[signal hull]

so it will be fixed? better to wait then...

[eager mountain]

certainly a relatable ad

[umbral belfry]

but what if we're forced to roll if they're meta units

[fathom rock]

4 shots with bug is 42.1 and takes around 2.5rl to shoot without cs
I'm expecting 31.6 for non bug burst gen in same condition

[tropic summit]

one of the finest

[placid bloom]

I mean she is decent for PvE too

[jagged mesa]

490 pulls, collab skip, MLB in 70, ✂️ , what else

[thin perch]

Oh god your right

[tropic summit]

also after 4 hours i finally installed win11

[placid bloom]

especially with Indivilia dogshit Def buff

[tropic summit]

at first it said i didn't have the right hardware, turns out it needs EUFI boot

[eager mountain]

my old laptop automatically forced win11 and now it’s doomed should i sue MS

[jagged mesa]

True damage massive aoe, not bad for deficit at all

[tropic summit]

after installing it, it didn't show my nvme anymore, panic

[thin perch]

Please god don’t make the resident evil units meta

[fathom rock]

They certainly will to bait you before anni

[tropic summit]

then i had to uninstall its own stupid controllers it carried over with win11 and they magically re appeared with all of my pg13 friendly content intact

at least happy ending

[thin perch]

So how is Vesti bugged?

[glad meteor]

[thin perch]

and how much is her burst gen exactly?

[fathom rock]

Double proc bug
2x proc on her s2 damage

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

because of this

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1405545677244858582

[eager mountain]

old pc huh

[tropic summit]

no it's actually decent and fairly new, just that win11 is tarded

[fathom rock]

And vesti also gets boosted burst gen if cindy p3

[thin perch]

Do we know for sure it wasn’t intentional?

[tropic summit]

as intentional as emilia release

[fathom rock]

Could be on purpose to promote vesti then fix after banner-

[eager mountain]

rather new pc using uefi huh

[thin perch]

That would be evil

[tropic summit]

win10 didn't have that stupid requirement

[vapid lake]

mine have 60.71% + 68.92%, that's 19 shots
for pvp i'd say two ammo lines adding up to 20 shots

[fathom rock]

Say hi to 90% of corporations

[thin perch]

Assuming the bug was fixed. Is she at least a battery?

[tropic summit]

SU is evil, gacha is evil, even @fathom rock can be evil, imagine all of his pent up anger with his cursed bracket

[tropic summit]

assuming her current burst gen is clip RL due to double proc, she'd fall into xmaiden/laplace burst gen

when fixed*

[umbral belfry]

Scam Up

[fathom rock]

Should be near clip sg still every 4 shots she land
But only time will tell

[shell hazel]

still decent I think, depends how good she is at generally wiping as well as main burst

[tropic summit]

her true lasting potential will be delayed nuke anyway

[shell hazel]

think worth an mlb even if bug corrected?

[tropic summit]

emilia at home

[shell hazel]

I mean I MLB xmaiden and don't really regret use a lot 🙂

[tropic summit]

do i look like a p2p to you

[fathom rock]

You spend go mlb after a few tests confirm stuff

[dim escarp]

I did

[tropic summit]

for the greater good

[shell hazel]

I can't fully build yet

[umbral belfry]

yes

[shell hazel]

need gear fodder and sr doll

[vapid lake]

sorry, even if good, can't mlb, need to save gems for double bunny banner coming up and then collab then anni then christmas then new year

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/baka-anime-gif-7463468575115072695

[fathom rock]

I have neither also 0 rocks
I also have 0 element manuals

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

hmm I'm got baited, 110 pulls for 1 Scar dupe and no Vesti

[umbral belfry]

I'm smelling emi indom 2.0

[placid bloom]

no Vesti for me

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-amime-anime-gif-16791089924035989226

[tropic summit]

i take a shower everyday

[jagged mesa]

That's what I promised myself and then I pulled 22 times anyways

These guys are a bad influence

[fathom rock]

I'll stop doing lv10 skills after nero for a good while to recover

[lone sequoia]

@tropic summit info on cs for her 1st shot charge?

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I did have a lot of pulls saved so it's not too bad but still no good

[fathom rock]

Hime will ol test for us

[umbral belfry]

oh right lemme do kraken brb

[tropic summit]

no clue, only calculated the overall % in 2RL, which is slightly above clip RL, between centi and helmT

30-32%

(this is temporary due to procc bug)

[jagged mesa]

How many? I'm down to 21k gems no tickets

[placid bloom]

I have 120k gems left

[lone sequoia]

i finally got a hit wtih RL shots, but low quality

[placid bloom]

what you spend on to have so little

[tropic summit]

don't ask him

[jagged mesa]

0/102 absolute, 0/100 sdoro

[placid bloom]

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/please-give-more-context-gif-22337965

[shell hazel]

vesti. talk to me

[tropic summit]

fix spaghetti code

difficulty: impossible

[placid bloom]

I was never touching Emma or Eunhwa with 1 mile pole

Doro I just ticket

[jagged mesa]

I wanted dupes for sdoro cuz limited pilgrim

[fathom rock]

Vesti testing

[jagged mesa]

Ok technically 90 because 10 ticket refund

[placid bloom]

nah that is rich people tactic

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/vesti-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-6999906611543065394

[placid bloom]

1 copy and dip

[shell hazel]

[jagged mesa]

At this rate I will have to, even for sanis

[tropic summit]

can relate

[jagged mesa]

I need to single copy from now on for a very long time

[shell hazel]

damn p2p like Rail 😄

[tropic summit]

praying to play yeah

[spiral onyx]

I'll Vesti || deez nuts in yo mouth||

[jagged mesa]

I also pulled a lot because I'm praying for Noah every day

[tropic summit]

that's ||nuts||

[shell hazel]

please

[spiral onyx]

I'll try her out later, too busy starving at work atm cause haven't even eaten lunch yet

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/pulando-da-janela-rádio-mix-fm-porto-alegre-saraiva-gif-10238832603786623873

[placid bloom]

well it's okay if I don't get Noah, I am PvE main now

[lone sequoia]

30%cs, yep

[jagged mesa]

And also I got my gf into nikke so we got caught up in the pulls

[placid bloom]

I just wanted Vesti for SR

[tropic summit]

eat a coworker

possibly an intern

[shell hazel]

solves two problems

hunger and the coworker never has to deal with any customers

[tropic summit]

and you don't have to deal with a coworker

especially those that at 8:30AM somehow are fully awake and coherent

while you're still trying to understand why you woke up to suffer

[raven plover]

guys how to deal with indom vesti

[shell hazel]

3 problems

[tropic summit]

lemme scroll up

[shell hazel]

indom vesti solves that

[raven plover]

[tropic summit]

oh found it, here's the counter

4 max at a time sir

[lone sequoia]

how you get a indom vesti in a good speed?

[raven plover]

by praying

[lone sequoia]

your emi was 38%, right?

[raven plover]

36 without cube yea

[lone sequoia]

can you test vesti/rh/emi need another video for that combo, noah/biscuit...

[fathom rock]

Prevent her from indom

[tropic summit]

[raven plover]

later after I get her

[tired root]

hello, which cube is best for rumani in pvp?

[tropic summit]

it's situational, temperance if tanking, adjutant if you need to hit CS% threshold, quantum if you need to hit RL threshold

[fathom rock]

Quantum if you need burst gen, tempering if you need tanking, Anjuntant if the extra cs makes you hit a breakpoint, otherwise cp padding if none of the above

[tired root]

ah, mine is already 17% CS so quantum or temperance it is, tq

[vital turtle]

thanks for letting me know 🙂

currently running the following sp arena teams and im not able to hold 4-6th anymore. any recommended changes?

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/xMaid/Rumani,
Jackal/Scarlet/BSoda/Trina/Centi,
BScar/sAnis/Blanc/Helm/RH

[tropic summit]

synchro 476 def is long due to be essentially near meaningless so it's normal you losing your rank

the next upgrade would be to have CS% units and linked siren in scar-jack team

[tropic summit]

you can aim for either of these 2 variants, they add a layer of difficulty to the attacker at least

#pvp-arena message

you'll need CS% investiment ofc

[crystal flicker]

Quick, take a guess whether Resident Evil Collab has PvP Nikke or no

[fathom rock]

1 yes

[vital turtle]

ok, thank you for the resources

[shell hazel]

did they say when it's coming?

[tropic summit]

where's my Clair rear

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[fathom rock]

Can the whale in ch7 attack someone other than me, so I can finally reclaim something in this dumb bracket

[tropic summit]

<@&946725432554836008>

[shell hazel]

<@&946725432554836008>

[jagged mesa]

Okay I'll send them a letter

[fathom rock]

My Thanks to mods

[crystal flicker]

Not everyone following RE and SU choose this for Collab smh

[umbral belfry]

@glad meteor

[signal hull]

Technically RE is much more popular than, say, ugh... ALL of the previous collabs. Together.

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-gif-10054675685696503316

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

I did play RE... In PS2 like years ago

[glad meteor]

Hit rate more useless than defence lol

[shell hazel]

just add an s in front of it

[tropic summit]

the real RE

[lone sequoia]

@tropic summit it looks like she really need 4 high tier cs lines to land her 3rd shot around 2RL range

[umbral belfry]

not bad

[glad meteor]

Noice

[tropic summit]

easy quadruple blue line CS%

[shell hazel]

just 1 rock all you need for the CS

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

it's back 😄

[umbral belfry]

eventually I'll roll hit rate off but now I wait

[vapid lake]

for real

[tropic summit]

it keeps coming back

[vapid lake]

the remakes committed character assassination to almost all the characters involved i actually hated them outside of gameplay

[tropic summit]

next roll hitrate on line 3

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[vapid lake]

it's so sad that too many people never played the originals

[rose oracle]

hobo what do you think of Lebron James?

[coarse solstice]

Idk evangelion has a pretty huge fan base

[signal hull]

I grew up on them. Was teenager even back then (I'm old af).
Absolutely loved original RE games.
And then RE4 came and screwed everything up for... what... 14 years, until RE2Remake.

[jagged mesa]

Eva? Nier?

[signal hull]

Is this why it failed badly?

[coarse solstice]

? What do you mean failed

[signal hull]

I mean not my words, I keep reading Eva collabs failed big time.

[jagged mesa]

Huh in what capacity was Eva a failure

U sure that's not re:zero

[signal hull]

Nope, I just started playing like 2 months before first Eva and I remember seeing these gacha profit reports and Nikke was lower than usual during Eva.

I know they're far from 100% correct, but still.

And I'm pretty sure nearly everyone hated second Eva and were asking SU to just stop.

[coarse solstice]

Gotta remember this is a global game RE is more for the western audience. Nier, Eva, Re:Zero all have huge fan bases

I love RE4 I think it's pretty close to perfect. Remake was fun too. Just don't think RE is more popular then the rest combined

[signal hull]

Well obviously they want to get a bigger audience. I think RE is a smart move, it's a very popular series, constantly, for 30 years by now. I'm actually kinda surprised that they've managed to get the rights for RE. They probably paid so much - explains all the recent milking they're doing with rerolls, costumes and 2-3units per event.

[dim escarp]

[crystal flicker]

Not everyone following RE, I don't even watch Vtuber streaming RE

[jagged mesa]

Is RE still super big

[onyx scaffold]

still

[jagged mesa]

I personally feel like it's fallen off somewhat

[onyx scaffold]

Ofc

[crystal flicker]

Nikke marketing team should do a Collab where they got free advertisement
They miss a golden chance of rerunning Re:0 Collab during anime season and choose Eva instead

[signal hull]

Every time new one comes out it's a hit. Despite being pretty bad (imo - I hated RE7 and 8)

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

Whatever. I will 1 copy then dip cuz limited
Gotta save for better collab

[vapid lake]

Mainstream audience will eat any shit up even if the RE game doesn't feel like an RE game i got so much flak for saying RE7 is trash because it's trying too hard to be silent hill

And that RE8 is just re4 but done worse

[nimble swan]

Someone that sees things the same way

[vapid lake]

And also for saying i hate re2make and re3make for how much they butchered the characters when they updated them for a mOdErN aUdIeNcE

[jagged mesa]

Re4 is my goat though I respect the tank-control fans

[tired root]

oh another question, is 4/4/4 enough for Rumani or is going higher required?

[lone sequoia]

111-444 for cp

[signal hull]

Well... I loved Re2R. Re3 ofc was a disappointment.
But I still prefer it any day over anything RE4+.

[lone sequoia]

you can just use her as a burst gen unit, there are team that need higher lvl skills, but i don't know if you use them

[jagged mesa]

I never understood the love for re7 tbh

[signal hull]

Same. It's a bad game.

[vapid lake]

Don't get me wrong i enjoyed playing re2r it was a good game gameplay wise, but i hated everything else

[tired root]

tq, she's just there for pvp and burst gen for me

[vapid lake]

It committed character assassination on basically everyone
Nobody felt like they acted like the characters from the OG, much less subtlety and cringy acting from the remake cast

[jagged mesa]

On a side note I always feel bad for going off topic in pvp chat cuz I do literally every single time

Sorry guys

[signal hull]

First person kills everything. I cringed at these monsters getting in my face "look we're sooooo realistic and spOoOooOoOOky!"
And second part of the game is just bad.

[jagged mesa]

I come here to gossip with hime and folian 90% of the time

[crystal flicker]

Does RE gonna release a new game soon?

[shell hazel]

eh if no one is asking for pvp help then

[signal hull]

Yes. Re9.

[crystal flicker]

When

[nimble swan]

Vesti pull or no? What is her burstgen like?

[signal hull]

Hmm Idk when, but soon... -ish? Maybe next spring?

[vapid lake]

Pvp is dead chat anyway

[shell hazel]

we all have the same question haha

[gritty ridge]

Guys will vesti be a better battery than helm?

[nimble swan]

Haha

[shell hazel]

let me in!

[vapid lake]

Vesti is god in pvp if u can hold top 6 at all u should pull

[crystal flicker]

I just want to know if Nikke get free ads or not lol

[signal hull]

I caved in and pulled Vesti. I hope I didn't make a mistake....

[shell hazel]

god in pvp? 😮

[nimble swan]

Yeah then I pull

[vapid lake]

AOE dps with delayed burst and continuous aoe auto attacks that skip biscuit protection

[shell hazel]

I got a copy for now her banner runs for 20 more days

[crystal flicker]

I still wait Vesti testing

[shell hazel]

so I figure even if they fix the double bug she may still be good

[gritty ridge]

I pulled her cuz shes a battery so she'll be used in ca regardless

[nimble swan]

How can she skip biscuit protection?

No one can skip that

[signal hull]

Fingers crossed they won't overfix it... Then again, usually they don't nerf bugged characters too much.

[nimble swan]

Only aoe crit that kills everyone

[vapid lake]

She kills everyone else and probably kills the biscuit too if the biscuit is in p2/p3

What's the defender in p1 gonna do alone

[nimble swan]

In one shot?

[placid bloom]

if she bursts she kills the other 4

because with burst her splash hits all 5

[crystal flicker]

Cindy bug vs Cindy now is like bs

[vapid lake]

No she's like sanis, she kills everyone else with aoe

[nimble swan]

Oh so she’s kinda like Emi?

[shell hazel]

thing is the bugs are not unit specific

they are across a bunch of units lol

[vapid lake]

Yea better comparison

[nimble swan]

Yeah ok then i pull

Thx

[shell hazel]

I wish we didn't have the bugs though it makes it hard to tell where she should actually be for burst gen

[gritty ridge]

Does she even have a skill that affects gen?

[nimble swan]

I wish SU would actually patch the bugs

[placid bloom]

she has proc on every hit

so like every other char that has a skill 1/2 that hits enemy, it is hitting twice

[gritty ridge]

Even scar?

[placid bloom]

yes, Scar counter is double hitting

[gritty ridge]

[placid bloom]

it makes chars that normally don't die like Blanc now unsafe to run

[gritty ridge]

Scar indom ⏫

[placid bloom]

because she can die before B2

without Biscuit

[lone sequoia]

i'm not a theorycrafter but i say that vesti is not good as battery in 2RL teams, should be good for slower teams, now... wait for the real testers

[signal hull]

I guess SpA defence is now officially thrown out of the window for good, if all this is true...

[umbral belfry]

4/7/7, 0 ele and atk rolls. x2 ammo rolls. no cs rolls

[gritty ridge]

Which means she may be my new battery for my bready indom

[lone sequoia]

sp died with cindy

[lone sequoia]

we aim to kill during her 4shots combo, that should be before 2RL b3

if no cs

[gritty ridge]

Sir I just need a new battery for my cursed indom, bready isnt being replaced in ca ever

[glad meteor]

Siren dead in 2.5rl

[lone sequoia]

A2?, pascal, xmica, anis?

[umbral belfry]

with very bad OLs rolls too outside of ammo. this is no cp gap

[dim escarp]

W E L P

[glad meteor]

Someone tested mirror sanis
noah noise bisc dps rapu

[umbral belfry]

just imagine with ele and atk

[glad meteor]

[signal hull]

I wonder what SpA pvp will be like when we finally get 3x 2RL teams... Just a matter of CP/investments?

[dim escarp]

yup I do welp

[gritty ridge]

It needs a very good battery

If vesti can get me 2.5 then shes besti

[glad meteor]

Better off bursting vesti if using her in that team

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Bready indom will win ca one day

[nimble swan]

That’s insane

I need to read her kit

[signal hull]

Ugh. This is too hard. I'll just do as usual: come back in few days and ask for TLDR 😄

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Bready is my 2b

[signal hull]

2Bready

[gritty ridge]

Rn I havent found any counters to bready indom that dont normally counter sbs indom

[umbral belfry]

@valid inlet

[gritty ridge]

Scar p1 is a bit of an issue with mast but thats abt it

[shell hazel]

2Bready

[shell hazel]

god damnit

you beat me to it I didn't see yours 😄

[gritty ridge]

The cool thing abt mast is that she all but guarantees i win against any other jackal indom

[rose oracle]

@raven plover new meta pvp unit?

[quick lake]

what is this AI

[lone sequoia]

stinks

[coarse lake]

Got my hopes up for a sec

[umbral belfry]

can't do any more tests with diff teams. I cp gap

[rose oracle]

I thought it was real

[gritty ridge]

Hime test my team, surely you dont cp gap

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-gif-6038627175974006375

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[tropic summit]

that generally happens when you're f2p

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

For your besto friendo

I just need to know if its 3rl

[vapid lake]

can't test in rookie because its still all bots and nobody woke up to attack and populate the bracket yet

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i was gonna test my scar team

Its just a bunch of bots rn

[bleak shale]

did i forget to add dorothy to my calc?

[dim escarp]

so what's vesti's burst gen approximatively?

[bleak shale]

already posted on sheet

[dim escarp]

where please

[rose oracle]

[tropic summit]

we going home soon

[gritty ridge]

What does that mean

[dim escarp]

tyty

[tropic summit]

it means to get her indommed it's quite expensive

[gritty ridge]

Im only looking for gen

Which number is that, the 23?

[placid bloom]

it's 2/2.5/3/3.5/4

like every other burst gen chart

which means she only lands 1 rocket at 2RL timing, 3 at 2.5

[bleak shale]

between sora and absolutes who am i missing, sdoro and elegg?

[placid bloom]

should be yeah

all the other banners are rerun

[coarse lake]

How much cs for 2.5rl

[rose oracle]

I feel so stupid

[lone sequoia]

it means that she is not good as battery unless you have full cs and ammo

[bleak shale]

[lone sequoia]

and blanc/vesti is still in range to die* before burst

[coarse lake]

Anyone have vids of fully built unbuffed vesti

[bleak shale]

that should be 0 cs numbers

[coarse lake]

Indom is nice and all, until they hit you with the siren

[placid bloom]

3 shot still kills wind B2 before they can burst probably

if your ele is good enough

[vapid lake]

i hope 10% cs is enough because i don't wanna reroll for more

[placid bloom]

need the exact frame to know if 4th shot lands before they can cast B2

[lone sequoia]

i have bad news for you...

[vapid lake]

my vesti's initial rolls are depressing

[fathom rock]

15cs helm, 0 cs biscuit

[lone sequoia]

but doesn't change much for team building if you have her with cs, just get a fast team

[gritty ridge]

So are you telling me indom only has a 1/5 chance to win in CA now

[placid bloom]

[ionic rose]

So Vesti fires the first 3 shots at 100% charge speed right?

[umbral belfry]

time to begun the hunt for more cs for vesti

[vapid lake]

this unit needs 4 ele, 4 atk, 2 ammo at least

so last 2 is cs

[coarse lake]

What cs vesti

[fathom rock]

0

[placid bloom]

seems 8 ammo enough if enemy is not on Blanc

or Noah Biscuit

[ionic rose]

So the first shot still needs charge time but the next 3 shots are 100% charge speed

And then she does True Damage burst

[lone sequoia]

10~15%cs to shot 2 times at normal RL speed

[fathom rock]

I am highly considering building for def a 2rl vesti Indom setup with p1 jackal instead of scarlet

[umbral belfry]

do it

[vapid lake]

guess im finally kick ein out of my def teams

[umbral belfry]

indom sbs you will be missed

[vapid lake]

my girl can retire from all forms of fighting and go study in school

[fathom rock]

Jackal siren blanc centi vesti

Siren and vesti link

[ionic rose]

Basically a SBS team replacing sbs with vesti

[vapid lake]

vesti >>>>>> sbs

[lone sequoia]

join the emi/rh team

[pale knoll]

She is ass for bossing it looks like, so you can go cheaper on her

[ionic rose]

Should i C7

[umbral belfry]

follow the 2rl vesti indom way

[fathom rock]

Sir this for na, which in fact has no emi

[placid bloom]

I like how Vesti reloads by clenching

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

laplace then

[eternal finch]

So Vesti PVP?

[worthy sorrel]

this is 2.5rl? or she has enough gen for 2rl in this comp?

[placid bloom]

won't be 2RL without feed

[eternal finch]

any DEF team comps with vesti currently?

[placid bloom]

even with feed it's gonna be hard to 2RL

[umbral belfry]

even with feed idk

[worthy sorrel]

maiden or laplace instead of siren then right?

[coarse lake]

3rl indom probably still beats it

[umbral belfry]

follow my way cup

[placid bloom]

slower indom can win if you don't die to 4 shot before burst

[fathom rock]

Hmmmmmm
Nero moran helmT rapu lapT 2.5rl
Scar trina rh rumani anis 2rl
Jackal siren blanc centi vestiTU 2rl

[placid bloom]

it's pretty bad in indom mirror in theory because long charge time

[umbral belfry]

oh wait

I can test the siren ver to see if it's 2rl hang on

[ionic rose]

Or u can put a clig sg like pepper with 2.5rl and feed u can reach 2rl

[umbral belfry]

I'm putting vesti p2 tho

[lone sequoia]

just think about vesti as a different cindy

[placid bloom]

she does a lot more than Cindy

[lone sequoia]

but her burst gen change nothing (in most of the teams) a easier* way to think how to build

[vapid lake]

still feel like the emilia or sanis comparison is better, because cindy aoe is concentrated on burst 10 hits then after that she gets stuck on p1 if it isn't dead

[placid bloom]

I mean 2.25RL is still faster than 2.5RL

there is some room to speed diff with Vesti

[rose oracle]

why is nero good for pvp?

[umbral belfry]

vid is siren ver (p5 linked)

[placid bloom]

only build limitation is that she can't get burst AoE before 4th shot, so you always need some sort of defensive B2 to ensure she survives to be able to do 8th shot

[umbral belfry]

looks like 2rl unless I'm mistaken

my centi is 15 cs if that means anything

[vapid lake]

has jackal feed

[umbral belfry]

well yes thats intended

[placid bloom]

it's Mermaid into Jackal bug

that might not hold after seasonal buff fix

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's why I'm

[umbral belfry]

exactly

[vapid lake]

assuming shiftup even fix it

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

well you can run it and it's still probably gonna be 2.5RL, which is better than what you'd get with SBS tbh

[fathom rock]

Cs for 4 shot vesti

[ionic rose]

Ok C3 for now ill wait for @unique wagon 's verdit for C7

[vapid lake]

how did this double proccing shit even happen, i don't get it

[placid bloom]

magic

[umbral belfry]

as rail would say, spaghetti code

[vapid lake]

it's like them fixing sbs/raven animation cancelling and then somehow true damage breaks in the process

[placid bloom]

why write code from scratch when you can copy pasta

if the console doesn't throw error at you for grammar it's probably working right

[coarse lake]

Vesti is double proccing?

[ionic rose]

Also im broke in equipment so dont judge

[placid bloom]

yes

[coarse lake]

Bruh

Is her true dmg not proccing properly

Why is her preburst so bad

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

is this confirmed

[placid bloom]

I am just looking at the numbers popping up on the screen

but maybe my eyes incorrect

[coarse lake]

Are they same number

[umbral belfry]

[eager mountain]

any testing with vesti cs num yet

[main trail]

that aint c3 bruh that's just mlb

[ionic rose]

Oh ur right mb lol

[umbral belfry]

silent pvp lurkers in here watching chat like

[ionic rose]

Keripo needs to give us his opinion

[fathom rock]

[placid bloom]

nvm seem like my prev screenshot just pause at wrong moment

no double proc Vesti

[umbral belfry]

[ionic rose]

I thought this was a video u trolled me

[placid bloom]

my eyes bad

[fathom rock]

Sorry 😭

[placid bloom]

also my work computer bad

[vapid lake]

So this her normal performance ?

[ionic rose]

Did the team work?

[placid bloom]

so she is 4 tapping chars without double proc

but Idk invest on the testers and the targets

[vapid lake]

[fathom rock]

I should test her with only p1 hitters for clear numbers

[glad meteor]

Vesti + laplace should be good combo

[placid bloom]

her 4 shot damage on non-wind seem kinda mid

[umbral belfry]

I like this combo

but if jackal gets to 2rl without proc bug with siren that's another option

[eager mountain]

just vesti emi noir

[umbral belfry]

we got no emi in baby bracket na

[lone sequoia]

not fun

[ionic rose]

Emi as in Emilia right?

[eager mountain]

[umbral belfry]

although, siren var gives you an edge over 3rl indom where it could've been a loss otherwise

so I guess there's that

dang i wish I knew if siren var. was confirmed 2rl without jack bug

[eager mountain]

its offical now p3 might not be safe at all anymore, lol
for emi arenas

[ionic rose]

Im coping with pepper instead of emi for now

[umbral belfry]

yeah go ahead and put an important unit in p3

[vapid lake]

damn vesti autoattack aoe while bursting is big enough to hit all 5 enemy isnt it

[placid bloom]

only wind should be unsafe

the other elements are probably okay

[fathom rock]

Someone check this for double procs

[fathom rock]

Actually perfect fight for that

[umbral belfry]

are we counting this as double proc

[eager mountain]

or fire

[fathom rock]

Jack link with p4 and p5, jackal in p3 being hit just wanna know if it's double hit or no

[placid bloom]

Jackal linking p3 4 5

[fathom rock]

This should make it as clear as day if double proc exist

[placid bloom]

just single proc

[vapid lake]

her aoe size kinda crazy

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

don't look at Jackal, it's too messy

look Mihara

[vapid lake]

Wtf

[umbral belfry]

we're in the meta now

[fathom rock]

So basically vesti is besti and is kinda cracked

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit rate this

Vesti not double proccing waos

[vapid lake]

4 shot to kill the entire enemy team is kinda absurd dont u all think

[glad glade]

So I’m hearing Vesti is basically a second emilia. Is that correct?

[fathom rock]

Stats?
Also wanna try no buff at all

[brazen ledge]

Vesti SSS in pvp ???

[vapid lake]

22% atk only

[fathom rock]

Skills and doll?

[vapid lake]

This is the only guy in rookie who is same sync level range as me

[fathom rock]

Probably ss

[vapid lake]

SR5 doll and 7/7/7

Means it can be higher

[fathom rock]

That's insane wtf

[brazen ledge]

Yay

[glad glade]

What the hell

[brazen ledge]

Imma pull then

[vapid lake]

Bow down to ur new pvp god-emperor

[fathom rock]

You can always wait maybe there underlying bug

[glad glade]

Sounds like she’s even better than emilia. How is her burst gen?

[fathom rock]

[brazen ledge]

Ill wait 10 minutes

[vapid lake]

So whale lah me poor cant mlb

[fathom rock]

Seems to be clip rl level after 4 shots landed need to check this more

[glad glade]

Jesus Christ she’s cracked

[vapid lake]

But she won't land all 4 shots in 2rl time frame

[fathom rock]

But cs

[vapid lake]

Need cs question is how much

[fathom rock]

Question is how much cs to land all in 2rl indeed

[placid bloom]

I don't think you are ever landing 4 shot at 2RL timing

her shooting speed isn't that fast

[umbral belfry]

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom even with whatever cs u need to hit 2rl breakpoint her gen is realistically 18? so xmaid

[vapid lake]

like he said even landing just 2 out of the 4 shots is pretty good

[fathom rock]

If I assume vesti 42.1 and HelmTr land 3 shot in 2.5rl , both of them alone should get me to burst at 2.5rl
Time to test it

[lone sequoia]

need a better team if you want 2RL, 20% is not enough to count as clip RL but is too much and you lose 1 buffed hit against trina buff (scarlet)

[umbral belfry]

I'm out of rookie tries I'll just wait for more tests

[vapid lake]

I think i'll stick with 10%

Im gonna need to roll at least a hundred more rocks for more ele and atk

[fathom rock]

What are the worst 3 units burst gen wise
Mihara, swid and cindy?

[lone sequoia]

just get a better team, build her as a cindy team, her burst gen is not good to change the team speed

[vapid lake]

This is fked, 4 initial roll + only 4 rocks left afterward

[spare nimbus]

This should win right?

[umbral belfry]

although now I want to see what beats a vesti team

[lone sequoia]

yep

[brazen ledge]

100% cs fr

[vapid lake]

Slower indom but higher rate of fire i guess

[coarse solstice]

Is this real or cope? If this is the Halloween unit sign me up

[placid bloom]

yeah you are more likely using her for damage than burst gen, but she is at least not super slow if you want to run 2.5RL

[umbral belfry]

I would say slower indom yes but this can potentially be negated if you add siren (assuming you really can get 2rl without jack double proc)

but until it's fixed we can't 100% confirm

[rose oracle]

AI I think, I thought it was real tho

[ionic rose]

Btw, zero rock day!

[glad glade]

Jackal has a bug?

[lone sequoia]

ammo is important

[vapid lake]

What team can survive 12-16 shots from vesti during the entire 10 seconds of full burst ???????

[glad glade]

You too? This is the second day in a row for me

[umbral belfry]

her alongside other units are proccing specific skills twice in pvp

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

and wait for real testers, i only test dmg most of the time

[vapid lake]

Vesti can shoot at least 12 times during a fb

[glad glade]

PvP is truly the mode of all time

[lone sequoia]

i'm pretty sure she can shot at least 1 time during full burst

pvp is the only mode that still have team building

[spare nimbus]

I think i will wait to attack cause i have no where near enough cp to attack the other dude unless there is another team that can win in a 25% deficit against this dude

[vapid lake]

Yea vesti can shoot 12 times during a fb, what team can survive that

[lone sequoia]

solo raid took that out when they allowed to see teams from the rank

[vapid lake]

[fathom rock]

Did I burst before helmT 3rd shot?

[spare nimbus]

Better to let that guy take p1

[lone sequoia]

can vesti survie to reach full burst(?)

[vapid lake]

Why not ?

[wise horizon]

arent you in a CP deficit?

[lone sequoia]

looks like helm last hit

[glad meteor]

Noise noah helm siren cindy maybe

[spare nimbus]

Yup

[fathom rock]

I need change team then

[umbral belfry]

nero moran vesti stall

[glad glade]

I can see it working, especially if Vesti gets stunned

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit indom

[umbral belfry]

isn't noah in danger of getting nuked by vesti tho assuming high ele (pre burst)

[brazen ledge]

With true dmg does she bypass the stat penalty ?

[umbral belfry]

there's no protection from bisc

[glad meteor]

trust in noise

[vapid lake]

Yea i rewatched my clip, vesti's shots 4-8 gets blocked by noah, then she can shoot at least 12 more times after that before fb run out

[umbral belfry]

I do like noise

[lone sequoia]

no, only def stats

[vapid lake]

Assuming have enough ammo lines

[brazen ledge]

yeah so she bypasses some.

[umbral crown]

Lets trust then

[glad meteor]

Unless we cope p2 helm p3 cindy p4 siren p5 noah

[placid bloom]

[oblique ridge]

Depends on the team Vesti’s with. If she’s the only dpser, Noah might survive

[vapid lake]

how? Noah is ele weak to vesti

[lone sequoia]

siren p4 as always

[vapid lake]

If anything noah gets deleted faster

[umbral belfry]

I honestly can't think of a team that wins besides potentially slower indom

there has to be something

[brazen ledge]

0.5rl ros comp

[umbral belfry]

nero stall?

[lone sequoia]

a team that can kill them fast

[glad glade]

Rapu probably gets flattened?

[umbral belfry]

I can see that possibility

[oblique ridge]

If it gets very concerning, people will just pair Noah with Biscuit, or put Noah out of harm’s way

[brazen ledge]

you go double sac rosanna comp and hope for the best

[umbral belfry]

unlikely. nero helps rapu and vice versa

[oblique ridge]

But, I was thinking that if Vesti is the only dps, Noah can live being tickled by others + being hit hard by Vesti. Just because Vesti seems to be AoE centric than single target lethal damage

[umbral belfry]

but it's still too early to see anyways. time to wait

[fathom rock]

Her attack still lower however true dmg not affected by def

[vapid lake]

ok, then how you survive after that, vesti aoe autoattack hits all 5 people and kills everyone including the biscuit

[oblique ridge]

This is before Vesti burst

[umbral belfry]

time for noah p4-p5 if no bisc

[fathom rock]

Vesti cooking

[oblique ridge]

Surviving the full burst wars isn’t what I’m focusing on, that’s a separate but significant problem

[vapid lake]

opponent put vesti in p1, noah taunts the vesti and gets shot anyway

[oblique ridge]

I can’t think of a way to stop Vesti from Wrecki once she gets started unless it’s to kill her before she finishes killing everybody

[umbral belfry]

I'm thinking nero stall can beat it (or I hope)

[fathom rock]

Siren vesti blanc centi jackal is an evil def comp

[umbral belfry]

did you see my vid retro?

[glad glade]

I’m stealing this

[fathom rock]

Where

[brazen ledge]

I think I should maybe ask for better def teams now…

[umbral belfry]

my rolls rn are very very bad

[ionic rose]

U need the fastest 1.5RL scarlet comp to beat vesti

[vapid lake]

time to watch the guy who attacks me everyday get killed

[brazen ledge]

Rosanna sac ????

[fathom rock]

Siren p1 next upgrade
Buff on burst and now tauntable

[brazen ledge]

Hello ???

[ionic rose]

As in Scarlet has to burst before Siren stun

[oblique ridge]

Who won?

[fathom rock]

Siren p1, vesti p2

[fathom rock]

What else gonna 1.5rl if not rosa

[brazen ledge]

Nothing lol

[oblique ridge]

Nvm, only 5s into Blanc indom

[brazen ledge]

So Rosanna meta again, time to invest !

[umbral belfry]

vesti

[oblique ridge]

Vesti won

[vapid lake]

to beat the above comp you can run the same thing but slower indom and with scarlet instead

[umbral belfry]

tbh siren burst is pretty negligible but you can yes

[dim sapphire]

Nice bug 2rl

[brazen ledge]

Mine has 2 black lines on 1 piece so she will have good cp (trust the process)

[vapid lake]

at this point we're just testing if our opponent have enough knowledge to finetune a slower indom

[umbral belfry]

but yes I'm still on the fence of after the double proc bug is fixed will siren var still reach 2rl

bc if not from testing I like lap var as well

[brazen ledge]

Rétro didn’t lie she’s really bugged atm ?

[umbral belfry]

but if after bug siren var can reach 2rl then

[placid bloom]

Vesti not bugged

[umbral belfry]

apparently vesti doesn't have the double proc bug

[placid bloom]

just Jackal

[brazen ledge]

She bugged or not ?

[vapid lake]

have fun with defense boys, vesti is like a free win vs 1 of your teams
hope u're 60 sync levels above the rest

[glad glade]

Really lives up to her Monster name. Vesti is besti

[umbral belfry]

no

[brazen ledge]

Where’s the bug then ?

[dim sapphire]

Jackal bug proc

[umbral belfry]

there are still double proc bugs but vesti isn't one of them

[brazen ledge]

Hmm

[unreal latch]

vest pvp great?

[brazen ledge]

Not good enough in pvp to know what y’all are talking abt

[umbral belfry]

get her now

[vapid lake]

great ❌ God emperor 2nd coming of jesus ✅

[fathom rock]

Jackal have a bug where she procs twice what she is supposed to

[uneven raptor]

Hello, taking advantage of Vesti's release, can someone help me build the teams for pvp?

[brazen ledge]

Does that affect the effectiveness of vesti in pvp ?

[placid bloom]

yes because Vesti is naturally slow team

[uneven raptor]

this is what I was running before

[fathom rock]

That affects everyone effectiveness in pvp

[umbral belfry]

so far the only 2 teams I've seen with vesti is noah bisc or blanc

[unreal latch]

any vid showcasing this

[placid bloom]

so you have to commit more resources to make Vesti fast team if Jackal bug is fixed

[umbral belfry]

I'm still not sure how her burst gen is. I've heard xmaid/lap (which is good), but also higher or lower

[vapid lake]

slowly scroll up chat

Should see a few

[brazen ledge]

What I meant is that : does this make vesti currently broken and when this is patched will she become useless basically ?

[brazen ledge]

I head that she’s a black home of charge speed lines

[umbral belfry]

I think even if the double proc bug gets fixed she'll be fine

but I'd imagine you'd want a way to get her to 2rl rather than 3rl

[umbral belfry]

apparently you need a good amount yes

[ivory violet]

She's hard to defend against

[vapid lake]

easy, give her helm and jackal

[ivory violet]

but she'll use a bunch of valuable units to burst right

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

She'll be 2 rl no problem

[placid bloom]

she's not useless, you just can't make her fast as easily

just shift around some chars

[umbral belfry]

Quick add her to def everyone until we find her weakness

[lone sequoia]

we can kill her with emi

[vapid lake]

Pretty sure nobody runs jackal with scar anymore so just give jackal to vesti

[lone sequoia]

or just use a noah/biscuit as always

[ivory violet]

doesn't she still eat thru noah biscuit

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-we-lostwave-solve-found-gif-8802904183172556766

what if we don't have emi in our bracket LOL

[uneven raptor]

yeah but that would mean switching my teams still, no? since the last reset I've been struggling a lot more to win 😥

[umbral belfry]

from my testing yes

bisc gets nuked and then it's gg

[placid bloom]

still need frame data, maybe Soda stun her before 3rd shot

[umbral belfry]

soda stocks

[spare nimbus]

What lines does vesti need?

[umbral belfry]

wonder how a 2rl noah bisc would work though. I'm unable to test that and haven't seen any clips of that

[brazen ledge]

Lots of charge speed.

[umbral belfry]

bc 3rl noah bisc loses

• assuming 2rl indom

[spare nimbus]

Is she like emilia except nuking as soon as she bursts?

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1337958277287247904/Red_Hood_Hopping.gif

[placid bloom]

she is timing based, a little faster than Emilia nuke so her 5-8th shot gonna get caught by Noah invin

need to last until 3rd volley to kill

[spare nimbus]

I see

So i should save up 200 rocks to get 4x attack 4x charge speed 4x something else and another 800 to get black lines

[lone sequoia]

thanks, i need to check a video where siren stunned my scarlet mid animation

[umbral belfry]

yes, but imo I'd wait. it's the first day of testing with vesti. and while testing shows she's really good rn, it's also still very early

[vapid lake]

She needs ammo too

[umbral belfry]

but eventually I do recommend putting either indom or noah vesti, whichever you prefer

[vapid lake]

Enough to add up to 20 shots, with bastion for pvp

[placid bloom]

I think we all agree she is better than SBS

[uneven raptor]

thank you!

[placid bloom]

but that's about it

[umbral belfry]

but it looks like (at least in here) indom vesti is favored more than noah vesti

[placid bloom]

whether she is better than Cinderella is another story

[oblique ridge]

Idk how this is possible cuz the point of Biscuit is to make Noah proc invincible and survive, right?

So if Vesti is nuking both, obviously unless they simultaneously die, Noah is likely going to take more dmg than Biscuit. She’ll proc invincible before Biscuit can manage to die, right?

[acoustic light]

does she fit 20 shots in full burst?

[placid bloom]

should be able to

4 shot will be before, 16 shot during

[vapid lake]

Shot 1-4 before fb
Shot 5-8 right as fb start, gets blocked by noah
Shot 9-20 during the rest of fb

[spare nimbus]

Is vesti worth using mileage for? I have 600 gems

[oblique ridge]

I’m assuming the rational is that Noah gets deleted thus fails to invincible team. So Biscuit’s goal is to let Noah avoid being deleted. If goal is achieved, Biscuit can die happy

[lone sequoia]

probably not

[acoustic light]

sounds like the cs copypasta

[umbral belfry]

bad rolls vesti. these are examples from personal testing. 3rl bisc won't help. 2rl bisc is unknown

[lone sequoia]

you can wait more days to ticket her or pull

[placid bloom]

I'm pretty sure you always lose to indom Vesti as Biscuit Noah, 3s invin doesn't deal with the 3rd volley

[spare nimbus]

Oh my god that burst looks insane

[unique wagon]

Shes more of a pvp char

[placid bloom]

it's not like SBS where you can blank the dist dmg

[umbral belfry]

it seems so ,already better than sbs indom

[placid bloom]

with taunt + invin

[oblique ridge]

Blank dist dmg was nerfed, unless they fixed it. Now can’t blank it even if you had the means They fixed it

[ionic rose]

Still SSS?!

[umbral belfry]

it's been fixed for a bit

[placid bloom]

it's fixed now

[oblique ridge]

Oh, nice

[placid bloom]

the main unknown matchup is Nero Moran I think

[umbral belfry]

yeah I really wanna see that

[placid bloom]

is 30% dmg reduc enough to survive Vesti

[unique wagon]

Dunno

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal lemme back in your sp for like 1 sec I need to test

[oblique ridge]

And what happens when Bay is involved?

[placid bloom]

Bay won't matter

[umbral belfry]

something tells me bay can't stop vesti fully. the burst maybe? but afterwards i assume oof

[placid bloom]

once the cover runs out the entire team wipes to damage share

cuz Bay shares entire team

[umbral belfry]

yeah it's adios

[acoustic light]

35% dr left after blanc + heals sounds hard to kill thru

[umbral belfry]

nero stall save us

[oblique ridge]

What’s the interaction with Bay and invincible from Biscuit when cover is gone?

[ionic rose]

How many days to find out

[umbral belfry]

if anyone has a vid of me I'd appreciate a ping pls and ty

[oblique ridge]

Team still wipes to dmg share?

[unique wagon]

I think SSS

[placid bloom]

Bay lives, rest of team dies

[umbral belfry]

it's so over LMAO

[oblique ridge]

RIP

[glad meteor]

[unique wagon]

I alr said like last week she is SSS in PvP cus shes Laplace + Scar/Rei TN/Rei Ayanami + Biscuit-uncountered SBS in one package.

[umbral belfry]

you got a vid k?

[glad meteor]

I don’t have a vid of you

[unique wagon]

And this Blood guy keeps saying trying to make her sound bad because he's not pulling her.

[umbral belfry]

I remember hearing that from you yeah

[placid bloom]

I mean Rosanna can one-tap her before indom

maybe we see rise in Rosanna p5

[umbral belfry]