#pvp-arena

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shell hazel
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no emi no life

swift mango
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To be frank it's very hard right now because the try and true top meta team for 4+ season already needs Emi. ShiftyDerp

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If only you did better during early seasons.

viscid urchin
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Can I get a suggestion on a good DEF team for rookie? I kinda need to retire an old one that I had for over a year now.

Here’s the roster:

nimble swan
shell hazel
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vesti pvp meta mayhaps

nimble swan
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really? idk anything about her kit

shell hazel
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that is the rumour but we'll have to see pepehmmm

swift mango
nimble swan
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would be nice to have something new, would be easier to build a 5th team

swift mango
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Or even 7, 9 teams

shell hazel
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or 10 teams

nimble swan
swift mango
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7 teams would be great. We have enough Nikke for thay

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This is why I want seasonal favour. One season it require 7 teams. One season it buff something, nerf another. .etc

nimble swan
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Buff doesn't sound bad tbh

swift mango
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Easily to make it fun. But SU just lazy.

nimble swan
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they are, with Nikke definitely

shell hazel
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yeah I wanted some seasonaal buffs or changes could be more interesting

nimble swan
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i thought if you could change teams after group stage for example

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that would give some variety

swift mango
nimble swan
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Would sweep out Splirnok CrownHUH Doro

swift mango
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The rest would stay the same.

nimble swan
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buff / nerf system, which you can maybe even choose for yourself would be fun though

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at least i think

tropic summit
tropic summit
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added value if your siren is linked, you can test that via shooting range or any campaign run, then see if she gets jackal's buff

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she'll need more atk% OL than laplace

viscid urchin
fathom rock
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@coarse solstice are you winning pepehmmm

fathom rock
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No pepehmmm

viscid urchin
tropic summit
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T2 gonna need to be changed asap once you've fixed biscuit

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atm will do to at least force a scarlet or an indom

urban mulch
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do i have a chance?

tropic summit
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another scarlet mirror hero KEKW

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post all 3 enemy lineups and your box

urban mulch
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idk i was thinking helm boom kill link type shi

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hol up the app just killed itself

oblique ridge
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No way KEKWut I just discovered I'd been shuffled to a different SP arena group, the usual suspects are gone.

And a new whale tried to attack me a few days ago. Boo, I liked my old pond and was comfy there

viscid urchin
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@tropic summit Ahhhhh OK. Well extra CP on Buscuit isn’t the hard part. She is not invested as she is 1/1/1, no OLs or dolls. That I can fix up as soon as I get some credits and EXP fodder to raise.

The bigger issue is raising the CP of the ones you listed. I mostly tried to have 2+ OL lines when raising Trina, Rumani and Noah. No real luck so at the moment this is all I got. I COULD work on raising the Quantum cube to give them a little boost but that won’t make too much difference

tropic summit
urban mulch
tropic summit
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ok 3rd team is just pad crap

urban mulch
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ye should i just throw high cp at it and go boom

viscid urchin
urban mulch
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cause i get insane deficit if i try to use an actual team

tropic summit
# urban mulch

your teams are on the left, ensure you're not on 15,4% deficit

urban mulch
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no trina 🥀

tropic summit
urban mulch
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its above

tropic summit
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oh oke this

viscid urchin
urban mulch
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centi isnt usable, not even OL'd yet 🥀

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noise is like 3 OL r10

viscid urchin
# tropic summit anchor:IM, the swimsuit one

Got. Well her I AM raising anyway for Elysion tower so that’s not a biggie. Thank you so much for the record. Like I said before, I am awful at PvP but I do not appreciate being “farmed” and being expected to take it

You helped me a metric ton so thank you. I’ll set up the teams you mentioned and proceed to try fixing the things you mentioned.

tropic summit
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just assemble it and post a SS thumbsup

urban mulch
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ok one sec app died again

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i need more ram lmaooo

tropic summit
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well nikke isn't well optimized to begin with so it def. does not help AndersonLaugh

urban mulch
tropic summit
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alright T2 is out of the equation

urban mulch
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ill just throw a random cp+++ team at that with whatever i have left

tropic summit
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ye we can focus on the other 2

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on one side we definitely want to disable noah

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on the other stall it out

urban mulch
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yes thankfully they dont have secondary taunt

tropic summit
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the bad news is that you're kinda lacking on the stalling front, especially with rapunzel unseen, noise very low and utilities leaning low aswell

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as you also lack bay that's one less card to use

urban mulch
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just no resources esp gear fodder

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i have all of those units but no resources to build

tropic summit
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how much atk% does moran have?

shell hazel
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do you not have credit card? 😮

tropic summit
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(in terms of OL lines)

viscid urchin
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By the way is it really true that Treasure Poli helps the OPPOSITION team to burst quicker?

shell hazel
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endless resources 😄

urban mulch
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11.81x2

tropic summit
tropic summit
quartz rover
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wonder if that's intended

umbral belfry
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yes * if she's in p1 and p2 due to RLs hitting shield. anywhere else is fine

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easy fix is put her p3 (maybe not if you're in a emi bracket) - p5

viscid urchin
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Sooo Treasure Poli, a PvP intended unit, is bad at PvP?

umbral belfry
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but bc she's a tank, she should be in p1 and p2 so it's harold

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wouldn't say she'd bad. Just mid

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there are better b2 choices

viscid urchin
umbral belfry
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ngl, treasure bay highkey mid too

quartz rover
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once they fixed her skills I guess

umbral belfry
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but I will say treasure bay has more team flexibility vs poliT

viscid urchin
umbral belfry
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but do I think you should treasure either one of them? (as a poliT haver), honestly no. Bay treasure doesn't change her enough to make her better in my opinion

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the only reason why I treasured poli was bc I was originally using naga for my b2

quartz rover
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then who do I treasure

shell hazel
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helm

quartz rover
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done

umbral belfry
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for pvp? you could just wait assuming you didn't treasure helm drake or lap

shell hazel
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yourself? CrownHUH

quartz rover
shell hazel
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you could treasure Hime...

umbral belfry
quartz rover
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lap? I don't know who that is

umbral belfry
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laplace

shell hazel
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tbh between the two bay/poliT it does seem like Bay wins

quartz rover
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drake's arch nemesis? dont got her

umbral belfry
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yeah I'd give the lean to bay for more versatility

quartz rover
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who do I use the standard ticket redeems on anyway

umbral belfry
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but I got no room for bay so poggies

shell hazel
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I'd also lean on Bay 🙂

tropic summit
shell hazel
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kind of my issue too

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so I wait to see how Vesti is

umbral belfry
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tomorrow poggies

lone sequoia
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helm, laplace, drake-tove (pve), mirandaT-bay, poli, tove(pvp),

shell hazel
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and if mid I SR-15 XMaiden

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yes Hime, I will do it

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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whale for me? 😄

umbral belfry
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oh hmmz

shell hazel
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some materials pls credit card

umbral belfry
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🐟

quartz rover
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my crown demands sacrifice

shell hazel
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I SR-15 5 main campaign also yes good idea

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even Crown

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did it a while back no regrets

quartz rover
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I'd skip R but I get a doll today and sr is in 2? days

shell hazel
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don't skip R

umbral belfry
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pray they give you a MG doll for crown

shell hazel
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it's bad news

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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only do it if you reach end of SR without any single MG R doll

quartz rover
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like last sr?

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I only got sgs

lunar pawn
quartz rover
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who bursts with helm anyway, we dont need to heal in these parts

lunar pawn
quartz rover
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I need 52 so that's unfortunate

tropic summit
# urban mulch just no resources esp gear fodder

honestly you're very lacking on the tools available, i advise to invest in the following:

noise, noah, rapunzel, bay, centi (raise their CP)
followed by emilia, get her ideally 40% atk and some ammo, CS% is valuable on her aswell

you can still remotively try these i'm posting, but T2 is gonna struggle, run quantum on jackal and rumani, run temperance on helmt and laplace

Ensure you're not on deficit and you could have a shot

Edit: rumani in the team on top is actually centi, you can edit it out

severe nimbus
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would I be correct in assuming right side would overall win this?

glad meteor
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sbs indom vs nero Moran this season should be ez win

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There’s core diff though pepehmmm

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Between emi and sbs but they made it this far so shud sbs indom

tropic summit
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imagine making a hard hitting DPS hit twice KEKL

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spaghetti code seasonal buffs are something else

silk iris
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need some help with teams please!

viscid urchin
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@tropic summit Before and after. Definitely an improvement

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Now I’ll need to look into fixing OLs and raising up Biscuit. Out of curiosity, she would go in T2 but replacing who?

urban mulch
urban mulch
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unfortunately wont be able to invest in pvp for a bit just cause joined a new union and they want me to do more in pve but ill keep in mind for the future

tropic summit
tropic summit
umbral belfry
silk iris
tropic summit
shell hazel
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bsoda and noir will fire at rumani but biscuit stops you dying

severe nimbus
shell hazel
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still not worth fighting at deficit

silk iris
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i fight everybody at a deficit haha

tropic summit
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@silk iris you can have a chance but you'll need to invest in your utilities

bring jackal, biscuit and noah at least to SR15

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rumani can be brought to SR5

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if you didn't 3 lines yet, go get them on those above

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(any line is fine, ideally above lvl 10)

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for batteries extra value if you get charge speed

umbral belfry
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never doubted nero team winning over cindy siren team poggies

violet spoke
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@keen vapor anchorded

silk iris
severe nimbus
umbral belfry
urban mulch
tropic summit
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3 lines on lvl 10 or higher

severe nimbus
tropic summit
umbral belfry
urban mulch
tropic summit
tropic summit
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if your helmT has a bit of atk% and burst above lvl 7, she's lethal on scarlet

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(even unbuffed and if not on deficit)

umbral belfry
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I wonder if that cindy team is 2.5

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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idk their speed this isn't my cheer Sus

tropic summit
severe nimbus
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in the deck it seems they are both 3rl? with no cubes factored in at least

umbral belfry
tropic summit
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but agreed let's blame @severe nimbus susge

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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could that emi be 2rl?

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jackal is bugged rn so hmm

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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even with jackal bug? Sus

urban mulch
tropic summit
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jackal bug is just double proc

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a 3% feed becomes 6%

umbral belfry
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ah I was under the impression it was more burst gen

placid bloom
tropic summit
umbral belfry
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I figured that was why I was always 1rl for my noise noah jack team

urban mulch
tropic summit
urban mulch
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ok

tropic summit
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that team doesn't have cube requirements sounds good

urban mulch
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lemme run it then

tropic summit
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record it and yolo

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if you wanna post the matchup first we can do a last take

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(checking CP and unit order)

urban mulch
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time for the app to die again wahahaha

tropic summit
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let's see

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T3 14,8%
T1 12%

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looks good, yolo prayge

severe nimbus
tropic summit
urban mulch
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yup my t1 got cooked

tropic summit
severe nimbus
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so if their whole team is rockets...do I just watch whoever? xD

urban mulch
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or well i think the order has been a bit confusing

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the jackal team got cooked

tropic summit
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the timing on burst gives us a huge info

urban mulch
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ye lemme trim it down 20s loading lol

tropic summit
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awesome

urban mulch
keen vapor
urban mulch
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wait is it cause their maiden wasnt linked 💀

tropic summit
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the problem is that xmaiden nuked link

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swap rumani in p1 and jackal in p2 and you'll be fine

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although rumani gonna need SR doll and temperance

severe nimbus
tropic summit
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meaning that emilia will hit past noah

urban mulch
tropic summit
severe nimbus
tropic summit
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i was hoping she wasn't enough to nuke your link on helmt on max health, but she still does, probably a well invested xmaiden

urban mulch
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ok will challenge again on another day

wild hemlock
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Is Noise Jackal Noah Cindy Laplace worth putting rocks into Noise to try to get attack on her lol. I need more attack so that she gets linked otherwise I can't really run it

urban mulch
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need sr15 on rumani im assuming

tropic summit
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essentially that team could use an anti nuke

urban mulch
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not just sr5

tropic summit
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that or remove water link

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but you need a rumani or noise invested for that

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you're looking at a team like this

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this one loses water link weakness

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xmaiden will kill noise only, while you finish them off

urban mulch
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ic

tropic summit
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get your batteries invested essentially and you can well beat the guy

fathom rock
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If I hit mcducks padaxin will hit me, if I hit relics it kinda wasted try
Guess I ain't hitting?

urban mulch
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ok

tropic summit
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better than nothing

fathom rock
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I wanna sleep and 7h in ch7 is brutal

tropic summit
tropic summit
wild hemlock
severe nimbus
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so given that the cindy team is 3RL, does this win prediction seem correct? @tropic summit
L
L
R
L
R

fathom rock
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Even if bro offline for 1h after I hit they magically hit back then sleep for 20h ShiftyDerp

tropic summit
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because if both are together, there's definitely one team way weaker

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although CA has a few approaches:

-high risk high reward, 3 strong overall teams resistant to multiple archetypes, 1 weaker, 1 fodder
-spread risk, 4 weaker teams 1 filler, adds % of getting 3 wins if bad matchups
-very spread, 5 weaker teams, adds% of getting less counters, but also less effective

tropic summit
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she now has the answer to the previous question of 3RL

wild hemlock
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Yeah I'm just seeing a ton of people run this jack cindy noah comp now it seems pretty popular

tropic summit
fathom rock
umbral belfry
umbral belfry
tropic summit
umbral belfry
wild hemlock
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6/8 people in my top 8 have that comp right now

fathom rock
tropic summit
umbral belfry
wild hemlock
umbral belfry
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are cindy and lap linked for you?

wild hemlock
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Seeing this on almost every single ca team

tropic summit
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3 defenders, 1 supporter, 1 attacker, high chances noise is linked

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if they did their homework, that's a noise taunt priority too

wild hemlock
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my cindy has 40% atk OL and noise has none

tropic summit
umbral belfry
umbral belfry
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and you can't p5 cindy bc then lap will burst

tropic summit
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lap in p5 is fine tho

wild hemlock
umbral belfry
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yeah that's what I run

linked noise jack noah cindy linked lap

severe nimbus
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I swear I hate these 50/50's on which team could win lol

wild hemlock
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I can't run a B3 unless I roll attack on noise

tropic summit
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that team is

+resistant to nuke
+resistant to sg
+resistant to siren
+can contest indom (SBS will need to dig through a lot)
-may lose to stall
-may lose to scar-soda

umbral belfry
fathom rock
umbral belfry
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you ideally want an attacker

wild hemlock
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Yeah so I have to roll attack on noise then basically

tropic summit
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it is although maybe weak to soda, as single B2

wild hemlock
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Is it worth it though

umbral belfry
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but this specific team sounds hard for you due to how your rolls are

umbral belfry
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it works for me bc my noise is max core

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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and cindy p1 p2 means you're just giving opponent more burst gen. it's hard to justify using this team then

fathom rock
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Lines? pepehmmm

quartz rover
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think I can improve these for defense?

umbral belfry
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granted you could just jack noise noah cindy lap. but you're losing out on burst gen you could have due to no linked unit in p2

tropic summit
fathom rock
quartz rover
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here's my nikke

umbral belfry
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so if it were up to me, I wouldn't run it unless you give noise more atk than cindy or you don't have a linked unit in p2 which seems bad imo

quartz rover
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wondering if I can make a stronger team since I have more invested nikke

fathom rock
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Ez af to fix clueless
Full roll 3/4 of these

wild hemlock
fathom rock
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Why you runnin

quartz rover
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what speeds do I want my defense teams to be again? 3/3/2?

glad meteor
umbral belfry
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I can't confirm as I didn't fight any sbs with stall this rd but I doubt bugged sbs would win against an invested nero stall even now

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her bug is just her s2 proc no?

glad meteor
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she x2 s1

umbral belfry
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if so then I still doubt she'd win, she should be walled either way bug or no bug

umbral belfry
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now if it's a bugged sbs with rh? Sus I'd lean your way

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but no sbs I still doubt sbs wins

keen vapor
glad meteor
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🍿pepehmmm

umbral belfry
severe nimbus
glad meteor
keen vapor
umbral belfry
tropic summit
glad meteor
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Imagine emi gets indom

umbral belfry
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imagine having emi

tropic summit
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imagine spaghetti on pizza

umbral belfry
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ewww

tropic summit
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but wait, there's worse

umbral belfry
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mods ban this guy

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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that's a horrible photoshop btw LMAO

glad meteor
keen vapor
# violet spoke

Teams are quite low in combat power no? susge ....... OH CrownEmbarassed NOISE WITHOUT A DOLL

tropic summit
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this one i've complicated feelings instead

severe nimbus
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thanks, I hate it

keen vapor
quartz rover
umbral belfry
glad meteor
tropic summit
violet spoke
quartz rover
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chocolate ants

umbral belfry
tropic summit
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but ye it's kinda daring at first

umbral belfry
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no rail. not takoyaki. full on octopus legs 😭

keen vapor
tropic summit
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how did that even taste like?

umbral belfry
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it was somewhere in Mexico when I was a kid. idk why I w was there but just know I didn't like it SmhDuck

severe nimbus
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did you slurp it like a noodle? KEKW

umbral belfry
tropic summit
tropic summit
umbral belfry
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never again 🐙

tropic summit
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i wouldn't be able to eat it either probably, unless they somehow make it NOT look like that

tropic summit
severe nimbus
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curious if its a taste thing or a texture thing that is the nope for people.

umbral belfry
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I have a sensitive stomach for me I think it's both

quartz rover
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what about wh at it is thing

tropic summit
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i think taste one can probably deal with, but the texture/look can be particularly offputting

fathom rock
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Guy with me just sr15ing pvp units while casually behind 7 chapters in campaign clueless

crystal flicker
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ScarBS hard countered alone already settle the fight, but yeah that 2B damage is pretty big

quartz rover
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he's yolking his nero and moran in private

umbral belfry
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I'm slacking off so hard in ch27. I should at least be ch28 now but I'm so lazy FrimaWorm

fathom rock
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I wonder how long till I gap bro by like 40 sync ShiftyDed

tropic summit
fathom rock
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It would work on me tho somehow

tropic summit
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you wouldn't do that

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i mean you can't even afford a new PC

fathom rock
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AnisStare oh I see

tropic summit
umbral belfry
tropic summit
violet spoke
keen vapor
# violet spoke

Ok, let's do this

Swap Trina for Centi and move her to last placement

What's your combat power with that setup

tropic summit
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who are you fighting btw echo? some other whel in bracket or a normie?

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oh but nvm looks easy enough

spiral onyx
keen vapor
spiral onyx
tropic summit
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now those are particular KEKW

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
tropic summit
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in some places that's als- nvm

umbral belfry
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is that sea urchin?

quartz rover
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looks like a cat deterrent

umbral belfry
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it is in fact not deterring the cat

fathom rock
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You are the cat

umbral belfry
severe nimbus
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I would love to know what was going through the mind of the person who first discovered sea urchin and thought "I want to eat that"

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"ah yes, black spikey ball at the bottom of the sea. lets eat it!" like...why!? lol

umbral belfry
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altho I am curious how it tastes SnowWhiteDrooling

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would I like it? fk no. but I am curious

tropic summit
spiral onyx
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Also this in Australia. Crocodile and emu meat in the middle, left was just salmon and right I forgot what

fathom rock
umbral belfry
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rip crocs Sadge

fathom rock
tardy canopy
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I found a new level of sussyness Susge
"How sussy you are?"
"This guy SUSS sus level"

spiral onyx
fathom rock
tardy canopy
severe nimbus
tropic summit
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@fathom rock if you ever get fed up with arena btw

fathom rock
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I'll just stick to Minecraft or actually see wuwa done downloading

tropic summit
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good ol minecraft

keen vapor
# violet spoke

pepehmmm last change
Swap SBS Blanc to first round and Cindy team against Noah

Since Noah is placement 1 is safe to swap Siren with Noise placement, it'll stun her still and hopefully do a 3 win

spiral onyx
tropic summit
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wait a minute, sunrider series made ANOTHER game?!

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pepehmmm 🍿

fathom rock
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More games I can't play

tropic summit
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ye that's on PC

spiral onyx
tropic summit
fathom rock
keen vapor
tropic summit
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after 30+ years spent in IT, you kinda wanna go farmin', relatable

fathom rock
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@tropic summit the og top 3 holders of my bracket are now diamond too

tropic summit
spiral onyx
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Bro had the money to retire and do whatever he wanted.
So he became a goose farmer.

tropic summit
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what kind of pandora box did you open to obtain that

tropic summit
fathom rock
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And a sync 361 just beat me up ShiftyDed

tropic summit
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and promote it to anti ape

fathom rock
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Give me something ShiftyDed
I cant build half the teams in pins

tropic summit
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where le box

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let's get in the kitchen

fathom rock
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Also I realized top 6 all of them keep trading blows

tropic summit
fathom rock
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Gems pain

tropic summit
fathom rock
tropic summit
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le box poggies

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let's see this untapped potential

fathom rock
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Only guy holding is position is named "troll" ain't helping
ShiftyCook

tropic summit
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why these ladies so down below susge

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almost looks like a pve main account susge

fathom rock
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Theyre below by 20k and I think it's cuz uncubed or bad lines

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Wanna see rumani lines?

tropic summit
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naruhodo susge

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no i'm scared susge

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hmm

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there's one thing you can try

fathom rock
tropic summit
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you've quantum on lvl 7 rite?

fathom rock
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Regardless with cube they 20k - 30k below my pve

fathom rock
tropic summit
fathom rock
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I'm the monkey sadge
Ill try, thank you AliceLove

tropic summit
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T1 and T2 are your bread winners

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T3 is just bait

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if it fails, we change the bait into 4RL midhara bait

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the idea here is to just abuse the double procs from s.anis and sbs

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might get some lads unprepared to deal with it

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ensure s.anis HP is lower than helmt, should already be, can give vigor to helm in case

fathom rock
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I do give vigor to helmt

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Sanis sr15

tropic summit
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awesome

fathom rock
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Also emi 8+13cs

tropic summit
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the idea here is that they should skip T1 and deal with T2 and T3

umbral belfry
tropic summit
fathom rock
tropic summit
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should be creative enough to hit a few def wins

fathom rock
#

Thank you AliceLove

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This bracket is grade A torture and so is looking at my pvp overloads

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Bruh 920k power sync 411

tropic summit
#

eh that's fairly high

violet spoke
#

@keen vapor Took some time because i was upgrading characters but here are the results with the layout i think you were suggesting

keen vapor
violet spoke
#

Not very well, but I have barely played it since release

#

I still havent beaten ultra challenge RapiDed

keen vapor
violet spoke
#

i was 800m off of beating it

keen vapor
#

Ultra is so Tia Naga focused

wild patio
#

can someone tell this guy to touch some grass? istg he looks like hes always refresh SA everytime I attacked him KEKWut

shell hazel
#

I'll send him a dm

wild patio
#

thank you AliceLove

shell hazel
wise horizon
#

whats the best way to counter Scarlet/Blanc/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal? I always get Scarlet last one standing and it just wipes my team in the end

keen vapor
#

There's too many Vince on the server

wild patio
#

like is there any pvp rank indicator that I miss?

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from blabla app

keen vapor
keen vapor
placid bloom
shell hazel
#

I don't think they should

wise horizon
placid bloom
#

ofc some people live around the game so they will check every hour hmmz

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nothing you can do about that

wild patio
#

what is this behavior

umbral belfry
placid bloom
#

that's just how some people are clueless

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not up to you to worry about why they are like that

keen vapor
shell hazel
#

you could hit 3rd instead? you bounce back and forth from 5th to 2nd quickly

placid bloom
#

the only way you can beat them is by having fatter wallet

wild patio
#

I need 2 Noah for my defencehmmz

umbral belfry
#

noah and bay hmmz

placid bloom
#

Bay is a lot worse hmmz

#

you put Bay on Def that team is probably getting cracked

wild patio
#

Solo raid pls come quickly I want her SR doll Doropression

placid bloom
#

Bay hot though pepehmmm

keen vapor
violet spoke
#

Am i doing something wrong if iam sitting on many SR dolls

placid bloom
#

no

wild patio
#

something about these tanned women that turns me on hmmz

placid bloom
#

tbh I wish there was way to convert SR doll to maint kit hmmz

keen vapor
radiant coral
keen vapor
#

Now pay

wild patio
radiant coral
#

Like you lose second placement?

wild patio
#

🥀

radiant coral
#

Damn

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But there is a trick that lets you maximize your higher placement

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Depending if he gems or not

wild patio
#

No way I can beat someone that do like this

radiant coral
#

Ima assume you’re at the bottom each time after two attempts cuz he reclaims it

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But what you can do is save your second attack on right before reset

radiant coral
#

So then that way after the reset, you’ll end up at the top, and now he’s at the bottom

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If you two trade attacks, you’ll still end up at the top cuz he’s gonna run out of attempts unless he gems

wild patio
#

The reset is 4 hrs before I sleep and I got to go to work on next day sadcatC

radiant coral
#

I mean sleep can’t be all that important right

keen vapor
shell hazel
#

4 hours before you sleep? how is that an issue?

wild patio
placid bloom
shell hazel
#

point is you lock in your attack just before the reset

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then it doesn't matter as they have to gem to bring you down

placid bloom
#

he can't attack before reset

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unless he wants to stay awake all night

radiant coral
#

Do it like one minute before

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You need to turn the table around basically

placid bloom
#

seems he picked wrong server if his time zone sucks hmmz

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actually I guess reset is the same regardless of server

wild patio
#

We have been in the same pools since I start this game KEKWut he knows every moment when I atk, as if like lex luthor learning about superman

placid bloom
keen vapor
placid bloom
worthy sorrel
placid bloom
#

well he is just unlucky then

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no sniping tactics for you TimiProud

wild patio
#

I need power boost from lvl 501 if I need to take over 3-4

placid bloom
#

unless you wanna change your sleep schedule

wild patio
placid bloom
#

but not worth pepehmmm

radiant coral
#

I mean sleep can’t be allat important right

placid bloom
#

don't live around arena pepehmmm

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be the change that brings fresh air to your arena group

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by converting to PvE main clueless

umbral belfry
#

don't do it it's a trap

worthy sorrel
placid bloom
#

tbh 3% NA so sweaty FrimaSleep

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maybe it is time to convert to full casual

worthy sorrel
placid bloom
#

I might need to use Soda on my elec team to break fire QTE because I have no better fires CrownHUH

worthy sorrel
#

vesti will save us. pvp/sr crossover unit. surely prayge

placid bloom
#

you about to see some chef special hmmz

placid bloom
#

this how you know my PvE invest is no good wahahaha

tropic summit
#

change it into

cindy scarlet trina soda rosanna and it might make sense

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scarlet sacc, benefit from scarlet s2, benefit from soda stun, benefit from 33%+ burst gen from rosanna, benefit from cindy nuke buffed by trina

placid bloom
#

it's not for arena, it's my arena units attempting to cosplay Ziz SR team clueless

tropic summit
#

no but ironically team above could make sense

placid bloom
#

maybe pepehmmm

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still feels too slow

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well at least it's 3RL sac, could be worse pepehmmm

tropic summit
#

mhm

placid bloom
#

we can make it 2.5RL sac with cs and quant poggies

umbral crown
umbral belfry
#

me and rosy in the same timezone now Woah

umbral crown
#

Hime in the present

arctic prawn
#

is sbs a clip rl?

raven plover
#

no

arctic prawn
covert lintel
#

Whaler in my bracket usually login nikke once a day
After i atked him, he would login every 2hoursKEKW

quartz rover
#

How can you tell

umbral belfry
coarse lake
#

@final wedge yo valco

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do you have recording of your nero moran fight vs deckhard's p2 mihara

covert lintel
quartz rover
#

Where do you see that

covert lintel
#

You can see from friendlist, block list or union list

final wedge
keen vapor
floral kiln
#

so curious how is treasure bay and poli doing for arena

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i ask because I have no other place I can really ask nor know any place that discusses it but here

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also the google doc havent been updated in 5 months

coarse lake
keen vapor
umbral belfry
#

break outta this echo

final wedge
floral kiln
coarse lake
keen vapor
#

Ofc asking in PVP channel is right

keen vapor
floral kiln
#

in fact who would know that treasure discussion would be in faq and not in its own channel so its easier to spot

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instead of a thread in faq

keen vapor
#

Is different from actual channel thing

floral kiln
#

yeah but my point is pvp arena is obvious and easier to find

keen vapor
#

Yes yes pepehmmm

floral kiln
#

if i want to find treasure discussion I have to dig around for it and I rather just ask in a proper channel or questions

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not to take it out on you you did nothing wrong

delicate matrix
#

Scarlet - Trina - Little Mermaid - THelm (stage 3) - Jackal

I'm not clear what Helm S1 level I need to make this 2RL

keen vapor
#

Tbf #questions will send you here

They almost never want to answer PVP

Can't blame them, getting top 30 rewards can be so free at times

delicate matrix
floral kiln
#

yeah I'd assume though, from what I've been told most the community do not want to engage with pvp

delicate matrix
#

it's at lv5 rn, is that not enough?

keen vapor
floral kiln
#

helm is def an auto 10/10/10

delicate matrix
#

T_T

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my books... T_T

floral kiln
#

I feel you

keen vapor
#

See below centi

delicate matrix
#

since the wording is different

north brook
#

helm burst gen is part of why she is so good in campaign too, so very easy max

keen vapor
eager mountain
delicate matrix
#

I should.....

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funny enough I just finished 10/10/10 mast yesterday

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maybe I do the whole crew

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

because I'm a nikke baby

#

april 2025 install

keen vapor
#

Right pepehmmm

rose oracle
delicate matrix
eager mountain
#

arguably the best unit in the game if in terms of being soft or hard meta in all contents

keen vapor
delicate matrix
rose oracle
#

whyyy S anis banner feels so far away

delicate matrix
#

this team kinda needs me to get SAnis next (?) month
because uh
I kinda have nothing after team #1, at least not on the level of scarlet-jackal

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

I'm working toward

  • Scarlet Trina Siren THelm Jackal
  • Blanc SAnis Biscuit TLaplace Rumani
  • high CP filler (cindy burst prolly)
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no SBS and idk how I am supposed to do Cindy without Noah

keen vapor
#

Sounds good

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

but I don't um...care (?) about PVP per se? I just wanna get a cohesive SP arena lineup so I can set it and forget it

delicate matrix
keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

why is centi special?

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

none rn because I just got scarlet xD

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

which is why I'm here hehe

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but I like scarlet for non-gameplay reasons anyway so I wanna build her

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also for a forbidden reason shush

keen vapor
#

Cuz Rurounis are cool clueless

delicate matrix
#

ignore order but this is sorta what I would do for filler? because other than centi they're all high investment

#

would noise be good here

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centi and noise aren't invested at all

#

it looks like I can replace either shotgun with noise and just barely get 3 RL with quantums?

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but way lower CP

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

ohhh

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

w<

#

wait you can do noise without another B1?

keen vapor
delicate matrix
#

she doesn't die?

keen vapor
#

Maybe

Is fine as long as the team bursts

delicate matrix
#

if she dies I'm bringing you to court

keen vapor
delicate matrix
delicate matrix
#

sexist...

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or sexy, depending on what she's wearing, I s'pose

keen vapor
umbral crown
#

you now, i like this context

delicate matrix
#

is anis just worse centi

umbral crown
#

better

#

more gen

delicate matrix
umbral crown
#

SR anis i mean

#

Summer Anis is different

delicate matrix
#

yeye

#

surely this is actually 3RL....

gritty ridge
swift mango
swift mango
raven plover
quick lake
#

old bug KEKL

atomic path
#

need help with main pvp team these are my only units so far

quick lake
torn pumice
#

can I please have some Michelin chefs cook something up for me for SP def?

#

currently using this.

atomic path
quick lake
torn pumice
#

29.7 atk%, Rosa invest ^

quick lake
#

Really nice pvp account

#

Can check for more team ideas in pins. U have really good units invested

torn pumice
#

Thank you will try - missed out on sanis didnt play then

quick lake
#

SAnis dropped off alot imo

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Damn. It happens pain

#

I used to keep like 3 different setups and rotate

torn pumice
#

yea.. i will prob invest in soda and nero lmao but no mats to do so atm

tbh for CA i've had bad luck barely making it out of first round but also prob not making 4 good teams forget 5

quick lake
#

Yeah, both are good

torn pumice
#

Thank you for your help appreciate it

chrome basin
#

what a strong counter to this team?

quick lake
#

CP gap CrownHUH
Alternatively,
Noise Noah Cindy 2RL

oblique ridge
oblique ridge
queen mango
#

Any team build to counter his team? Missing Noah

oblique ridge
chrome basin
atomic wolf
#

Who pinged

oblique ridge
# queen mango Any team build to counter his team? Missing Noah

Idk, I feel overwhelmed here, but do you have Siren? If you do, you’ll want to consider using her. If vs the Blanc team, it’s possible to stun Blanc before she bursts. So it turns into a RH B1 -> Biscuit B2 -> RH B3 burst sequence. You can AoE wipe that, unless power is too low.

Or you can take Siren to vs enemy Scarlet, but that’s tough because Scarlet counterattacks Siren and might kill her. Nevertheless, if she survives she’ll stun Scarlet, causing enemy to do Rosanna B1 -> Trina B2 -> Noir B3. Which you might have an easier time surviving using stall / heal tactics like a Rapunzel B1 burst healing your team.

queen mango
oblique ridge
#

You can just easily AoE wipe that, like with 2RL Scarlet that isn’t too deficit vs his power score

swift mango
umbral belfry
heady peak
#

Which team wins? I think the opponents team is going to win this fight 3w 2L... would I be right?

Team 1 = Opponent
Team 2 = Me
Team 3 = Opponent
Team 4 = Opponent
Team 5 = Me

swift mango
torn pumice
#

o/

covert lintel
thin abyss
#

Any suggestions for a team 3? Preferably one that can survive against a full SG team(Naga, S Anis, Pepper, Anis, Drake)

oblique ridge
# queen mango Any team build to counter his team? Missing Noah

Unfortunately idk your builds so I can’t be sure if this would work. It needs a lot of care (especially tempering cube and dolls) and Helm treasure 3. This should survive, stun Scarlet, Helm nuke 3 units, while also surviving enemy Rosanna nuke, and be heavily healed or full healed by Rapunzel.

Unless his Scarlet has too low ammo. Then she dodges the stun. RIP

torn pumice
swift mango
#

@worthy knoll are you feeling like winning today?CrownHUH

swift mango
torn pumice
#

don't let him win susge

atomic wolf
#

i'm not the person to chase for top rank

#

i am perfectly FINE at top 3/4 whatever

#

all I'm asking is that you attack him

torn pumice
#

I've made him spend 10k gems in the last 30 hrs

atomic wolf
#

i know that he's the person that will always spend gems for attempt

atomic wolf
#

let me know so I can copy it, we need to waste as much of his gems as possible

#

i'll back you up too

torn pumice
#

you have to switch it

#

can't just keep 1 atk is too easy

#

the only reason he gets tripped up is switching def constantly

atomic wolf
#

Ah

torn pumice
#

can't use the same thing

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will see how good vesti is soon enough

umbral belfry
#

pls be pvp meta vesti plsplspls Prayge

atomic wolf
#

hmm, i prob can copy those

torn pumice
#

feel free

umbral belfry
#

why not just put siren p1?

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unless you're safe from another siren due to low scar ammo

torn pumice
#

my scar has too much ammo; not reason for positioning though

umbral belfry
#

exactly what you want siren p1

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unless your siren isn't linked

torn pumice
#

siren isn't linked

umbral belfry
#

ah welp nevermind then CrownHUH

torn pumice
#

im still working on rolls

umbral belfry
#

a small tip for you is whenever siren does get linked, you can put siren p1. that way she protects scar from getting linked while still getting scar counters and burst gen

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scar from getting stunned* I'm half asleep

torn pumice
#

yea i got what you meant thank you

atomic wolf
torn pumice
atomic wolf
#

i hate myself so much

atomic wolf
#

@umbral belfry any ideas

umbral belfry
#

trying to make an indom team without sbs from the looks of it?

#

got an ein built?

atomic wolf
#

I have sbs/ein

umbral belfry
#

decently built ein?

atomic wolf
#

The problem would be how to distribute

#

Decent yeah

umbral belfry
#

okie 1 sec

#

is jackal currently being used elsewhere

#

if so it's not horrible but it puts you at risk of siren

atomic wolf
#

Jackal is used in scarlet team

umbral belfry
#

alright gimme a sec

atomic wolf
#

But this does nothing because fhey have a rosanna

atomic wolf
#

Hm

umbral belfry
#

blanc can be in p1 for the 1st Pic but just know either way you're vulnerable to siren

torn pumice
#

Siren is so broken lol

umbral belfry
#

changed a lot

torn pumice
#

have to be smart about bursts

#

not as much freedom in comps

atomic wolf
#

The thing is

#

They have a rosanna which is the problem

umbral belfry
#

you have a lot of options for 3rl sbs

torn pumice
atomic wolf
#

3rl is good

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
#

having xmaid makes it much much safer

atomic wolf
#

Hold on so I ahve to build xmaid?

umbral belfry
#

but also the 3rl ver is still vulnerable to siren

torn pumice
#

xmaid is worth building

#

imo

umbral belfry
#

well imo you'd want to have a decent xmaid regardless for pve and pvp so yes

atomic wolf
#

Hm

umbral belfry
#

at least decent

#

if you want ti exchange for lap you can but just know for the 3rl ver you're risking rosa sniping both if she's good

#

but if you're fighting a 2rl scar rosa do the 2rl ver. scar rosa can't stop a 2rl sbs (or likely 2rl ein)

#

either way both are weak to noah bisc so if you put this on def it's kinda oof

#

Anyway sleepy time for me, gn and gl to you both FrimaSleep

atomic wolf
#

damn was about to ask more gn then

umbral belfry
#

you can if its an easy question

atomic wolf
#

Its a hard one

umbral belfry
#

I just got work in the morning LOL

atomic wolf
#

Just get sone rest then

umbral belfry
tribal folio
#

would i be wrong in thinking right wins trolldespair

shell hazel
#

assuming right is on def then I think they win 1/4 outright

atomic wolf
#

operation eagle eye is on the go sir

shell hazel
#

1 because sg's will chomp rapunzel and then eat the stall team from the outside in, will probably snowball unless the rapunzel is super tanky

#

4 because opponent sgs will pointlessly be shooting at blanc who is biscuit immune

#

left wins 5 imo right team 5 is ???

#

so boils down to match 2/3 for the rest

swift mango
shell hazel
#

weird my whale was online a few hours ago but didn't attack me

#

i'll take it, more time to chill

swift mango
shell hazel
#

I was already long asleep by then 😄

swift mango
shell hazel
#

they seem to have times when they're lazer focused on hitting back and others where they are offline for 12+ hours, so I figure maybe just busy touching grass

#

but it means they can never really hold 1 as long as I can take it back as I can just sneak in when they're away 😄

prisma basalt
#

guys, pls help me cook 3 team def pvp

shell hazel
#

what other nikkes are you hiding?

prisma basalt
#

nothing sir

#

in synchro, i only have best nikke for pvp

shell hazel
#

are there more below those?

prisma basalt
#

here sir

shell hazel
#

how much ammo rolls does your scarlet have?

#

normal one not the sbs one

prisma basalt
#

63 ammo sir

#

not enough?

shell hazel
#

opposite really - too much ammo lol

prisma basalt
#

.....

#

i'll do it later

swift mango
#

Noah can't burst = lose

shell hazel
#

rumani so strong she's in 2 teams 😄

#

looks good always a bit hesistant to recommend anis just as she'll have low cp

#

as you probably won't build her unless you run CA

swift mango
#

@umbral crown Are you still in?

shell hazel
#

mine is SR-5 but I use mine in CA 😄

#

not sure I'll ever jump her higher than SR-5 mind you

rich quail
#

Is it bad to build her up more than normally?

shell hazel
#

anis

rich quail
#

I kinda barebones her so far, OL+2 except boots are +4

8/4/8 because I didn’t know if s1 or burst would help her with withstanding attacks

rich quail
shell hazel
#

i'd build rumani over anis

rich quail
#

Oh okay, I’m gonna do that

But first Centi

shell hazel
#

my rumani is SR-5 with 4 OL and aiming for 7/7/7 skills (cost isn't too bad and I don't mind the cp pad)

rich quail
#

s2 to 7?

#

So you think going to 10 for s1/burst is not worth the squeeze?

shell hazel
#

probably not given she is not usually main tank

#

often thrown on the end to split focus and taunt after burst

#

but yeah same with like centi I think, but I over-skill a bit due to mainly investing in pvp

#

think both work just fine at 4/4/4 on more of a budget build

#

but I'm building moran to 10/10/10 so maybe that gives you an idea how crazy I am 😄

glacial lion
#

PepeTF 1.5rl(?) burst...

shell hazel
#

jackal is bugged atm

glacial lion
#

lmao

shell hazel
#

siren is also bugged across SPA matches ammo count doesn't reset in SPA

#

so if this is SPA and you're on match 2 or 3 the burst gen from ammo fired thing she does keeps previous round counts

rich quail
#

you

me

… same

#

I have to overinvest because in sp.a I am 20 levels behind most of the top 20 players

shell hazel
#

I just got xmaiden to SR-15 today as well, I have enough materials + solo raid coming to get Vesti to similar if she's good I think

#

my only SPA without SR-15 is now centi and trina who are SR-5 - I will eventually SR-15 them as well

#

I need more nero dupes I have her at LB-0 and I think it compromises the impact of the stall comp a bit when the main tank is low dupes

#

speaking of that @nimble swan it might be why my nero wasn't hyper tanky, low dupes means less stats 😛

fathom rock
#

How does he only become online when I hit ShiftyDed

swift mango
waxen tartan
#

bot wins?

fathom rock
covert lintel
#

You can try that and see if your login record is updated or not

quick lake
#

last login time, doesnt account if player is always logged in

nimble swan
#

So, while i’m hunting for my last Laplace copy, you go for Nero Doro

nimble swan
#

Or online