#pvp-arena
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To be frank it's very hard right now because the try and true top meta team for 4+ season already needs Emi. 
If only you did better during early seasons.
Can I get a suggestion on a good DEF team for rookie? I kinda need to retire an old one that I had for over a year now.
Here’s the roster:
too bad our bracket doesn't have her
vesti pvp meta mayhaps
really? idk anything about her kit
that is the rumour but we'll have to see 
Doubt
would be nice to have something new, would be easier to build a 5th team
Would be nice if they asked us to build a 6th team. 
Or even 7, 9 teams
or 10 teams
my synch device would grow endless
I think it needs 3,5,7,9,11 to avoid draw
7 teams would be great. We have enough Nikke for thay
This is why I want seasonal favour. One season it require 7 teams. One season it buff something, nerf another. .etc
Buff doesn't sound bad tbh
Easily to make it fun. But SU just lazy.
they are, with Nikke definitely
yeah I wanted some seasonaal buffs or changes could be more interesting
i thought if you could change teams after group stage for example
that would give some variety
Nah, it would sweep out lazy peeps that don't bother to change their team order.
Would sweep out Splirnok

The rest would stay the same.
buff / nerf system, which you can maybe even choose for yourself would be fun though
at least i think
did you get her dakimakura yet? can you sleep without emilia? can you go to the toilet without emi? 
try this one, it also happens to be fairly high with your CP distribution
added value if your siren is linked, you can test that via shooting range or any campaign run, then see if she gets jackal's buff
she'll need more atk% OL than laplace
@tropic summit hey you’re back! Will do when it open again. How about SPA? I used your previous suggestion but I also took time to raise up Trina Rumani and Noah
@coarse solstice are you winning 
are you 
No 
i'll take a look 
So far so good 
Bless. Your previous suggestion did wonders. It got 2 people that kept hunting me last season off my back a bit. Now it’s time to make it stronger
jackal siren scarlet trina laplace
centi ein anchorIM rh noir
noise rumani cindy helmt noah
notes:
badly need to raise biscuit CP so she's usable, can improve T2 by far
extra CP on noah, rumani, s.anis, noise, blanc would be a very welcome addition
aim for CS% on noah, rumani, trina, centi, jackal (11% is a good start), can then make T3 siren resistant
T2 gonna need to be changed asap once you've fixed biscuit
atm will do to at least force a scarlet or an indom
No way
I just discovered I'd been shuffled to a different SP arena group, the usual suspects are gone.
And a new whale tried to attack me a few days ago. Boo, I liked my old pond and was comfy there
@tropic summit Ahhhhh OK. Well extra CP on Buscuit isn’t the hard part. She is not invested as she is 1/1/1, no OLs or dolls. That I can fix up as soon as I get some credits and EXP fodder to raise.
The bigger issue is raising the CP of the ones you listed. I mostly tried to have 2+ OL lines when raising Trina, Rumani and Noah. No real luck so at the moment this is all I got. I COULD work on raising the Quantum cube to give them a little boost but that won’t make too much difference
welcome to Nikke, where your happiness is absolutely not of their concern
they gonna need SR5-SR15, 3 lines, can be left at lvl 0 OL
ok 3rd team is just pad crap
ye should i just throw high cp at it and go boom
Oh I gave them an SR5 doll. Each. I had some spares lying around
cause i get insane deficit if i try to use an actual team
your teams are on the left, ensure you're not on 15,4% deficit
no trina 🥀
show box then
its above
oh oke this
@tropic summit And just to make sure. The Anchor you are talking about is her maid one yes? I forgot her full name but I am pretty sure you aren’t referring to her SR original
anchor:IM, the swimsuit one
Best catchphrase
Got. Well her I AM raising anyway for Elysion tower so that’s not a biggie. Thank you so much for the record. Like I said before, I am awful at PvP but I do not appreciate being “farmed” and being expected to take it
You helped me a metric ton so thank you. I’ll set up the teams you mentioned and proceed to try fixing the things you mentioned.
can you tell me how much CP this team reaches?
just assemble it and post a SS 
well nikke isn't well optimized to begin with so it def. does not help 
ill just throw a random cp+++ team at that with whatever i have left
ye we can focus on the other 2
on one side we definitely want to disable noah
on the other stall it out
yes thankfully they dont have secondary taunt
the bad news is that you're kinda lacking on the stalling front, especially with rapunzel unseen, noise very low and utilities leaning low aswell
as you also lack bay that's one less card to use
just no resources esp gear fodder
i have all of those units but no resources to build
how much atk% does moran have?
do you not have credit card? 😮
(in terms of OL lines)
By the way is it really true that Treasure Poli helps the OPPOSITION team to burst quicker?
endless resources 😄
yes 
11.81x2
yes her shield acts as another hitbox
uh she might get jackal buff against other defenders, we could use that
wonder if that's intended
yes * if she's in p1 and p2 due to RLs hitting shield. anywhere else is fine
easy fix is put her p3 (maybe not if you're in a emi bracket) - p5
Sooo Treasure Poli, a PvP intended unit, is bad at PvP?
but bc she's a tank, she should be in p1 and p2 so it's 
wouldn't say she'd bad. Just mid
there are better b2 choices
So Bay was the PvP treasure winner between the two?
once they fixed her skills I guess
but I will say treasure bay has more team flexibility vs poliT
Man Shift Up be dropping the balls then. Because Poli, Tove and Bay were the ones I was most excited for…but back then I also did not have Noah sooooooo
but do I think you should treasure either one of them? (as a poliT haver), honestly no. Bay treasure doesn't change her enough to make her better in my opinion
the only reason why I treasured poli was bc I was originally using naga for my b2
then who do I treasure
helm
done
for pvp? you could just wait assuming you didn't treasure helm drake or lap
yourself? 
forreal
but yes I'm not saying either bayT or poliT are bad. they're just painfully mid
lap? I don't know who that is
laplace
tbh between the two bay/poliT it does seem like Bay wins
drake's arch nemesis? dont got her
yeah I'd give the lean to bay for more versatility
who do I use the standard ticket redeems on anyway
but I got no room for bay so 
I'd also lean on Bay 🙂
for reference, how unbuilt is your bay?
tomorrow 
helm, laplace, drake-tove (pve), mirandaT-bay, poli, tove(pvp),
catch up hippo. mine@ al-
whale for me? 😄
some materials pls credit card
🐟
my crown demands sacrifice
I SR-15 5 main campaign also yes good idea
even Crown
did it a while back no regrets
I'd skip R but I get a doll today and sr is in 2? days
don't skip R
pray they give you a MG doll for crown
it's bad news
don't let rail see you say that
only do it if you reach end of SR without any single MG R doll
random non max treasure helm spook
who bursts with helm anyway, we dont need to heal in these parts

I need 52 so that's unfortunate
honestly you're very lacking on the tools available, i advise to invest in the following:
noise, noah, rapunzel, bay, centi (raise their CP)
followed by emilia, get her ideally 40% atk and some ammo, CS% is valuable on her aswell
you can still remotively try these i'm posting, but T2 is gonna struggle, run quantum on jackal and rumani, run temperance on helmt and laplace
Ensure you're not on deficit and you could have a shot
Edit: rumani in the team on top is actually centi, you can edit it out
you're red
enrichment
would I be correct in assuming right side would overall win this?
sbs indom vs nero Moran this season should be ez win
There’s core diff though 
Between emi and sbs but they made it this far so shud sbs indom
imagine making a hard hitting DPS hit twice 
spaghetti code seasonal buffs are something else
@tropic summit Before and after. Definitely an improvement
Now I’ll need to look into fixing OLs and raising up Biscuit. Out of curiosity, she would go in T2 but replacing who?
sorry got a bit busy but the investment non existent basically
ok thank you boss
unfortunately wont be able to invest in pvp for a bit just cause joined a new union and they want me to do more in pve but ill keep in mind for the future
post matchup to doublecheck CP, you're on the left
no problem, record the match if you get the chance, maybe we can min max further, don't run those if you're on deficit ofc
t1 I'm not too sure of
t2 left could win if rosa lives long enough to snipe scar
t3 right
t4 left
t5 right
also how the matches go for yesterday?
my rumani isnt that built what should the minimum be?
915 vs T1
972 vs T2
you're cut off from both
bsoda and noir will fire at rumani but biscuit stops you dying
this was the result from yesterday
still not worth fighting at deficit
i fight everybody at a deficit haha
@silk iris you can have a chance but you'll need to invest in your utilities
bring jackal, biscuit and noah at least to SR15
rumani can be brought to SR5
if you didn't 3 lines yet, go get them on those above
(any line is fine, ideally above lvl 10)
for batteries extra value if you get charge speed
the single x on helm LMAO looks like we were pretty spot on though. the scar has over 32 ammo?
never doubted nero team winning over cindy siren team 
@keen vapor 
so OL level 1 is fine?
yeah, helm was the only one that died on the final team lol. the rest got healed up an insane amount and finished off the other team
expected that outcome but also rip helm 
i have deficit on t2, prob can remedy if i swap out mari for someone else
overloaded lvl 0 is fine, the lines give a lot more CP instead
3 lines on lvl 10 or higher
you can check levels here:
3 for 3 so far on predictions...so trying to guess right this time around as well lol. tired of this dang frame eluding me xD
it needs to be a non feeding B2, so either a SR or a RL
ok thanks!
sorry I don't have a clue for your current t1. I'm in a bracket where no one had emi, so I never bothered checking how she is vs a slower noah team. maybe someone else can answer
so realistically only rh but then no buffs
1RL slower and you can catch her nuke
that's actually fine, you only need to prevent feeding and don't necessarely need a B2 buff 
if your helmT has a bit of atk% and burst above lvl 7, she's lethal on scarlet
(even unbuffed and if not on deficit)
is she blocked then
I wonder if that cindy team is 2.5
check their speed 
idk their speed this isn't my cheer 
you're just lazy 
in the deck it seems they are both 3rl? with no cubes factored in at least

but agreed let's blame @severe nimbus 
you need to check their previous matches
feed is too little, although it could be a 2.5RL
even with jackal bug? 
o wait i just realized i had the wrong matchups, the t1 is the one on deficit actually so i have to swap out centi 
ah I was under the impression it was more burst gen

ok any unit that keeps that team on same speed is fine, for that one you don't have requirement on feeding so it can be anything (but ensure same speed)
I figured that was why I was always 1rl for my noise noah jack team
or i can swap everyone over to resil and ill no longer have deficit
oh that works too
ok
that team doesn't have cube requirements sounds good
lemme run it then
record it and yolo
if you wanna post the matchup first we can do a last take
(checking CP and unit order)
sorry for the dumb question. how do i check in a replay to see if that cindy team is 3rl or faster?
look at their RL units (any), see if they burst after 3 full rockets or in the middle of the 3rd rocket flying
yup my t1 got cooked
oh T3 worked tho?
so if their whole team is rockets...do I just watch whoever? xD
did you record?
the timing on burst gives us a huge info
ye lemme trim it down 20s loading lol
awesome
Ok, now show me how you think you could beat him
using previous teams provided by rail
wait is it cause their maiden wasnt linked 💀
oh, you can win it afterall
the problem is that xmaiden nuked link
swap rumani in p1 and jackal in p2 and you'll be fine
although rumani gonna need SR doll and temperance
okay, looking at a previous replay, I looked at the rumani in the cindy team and she got 4 rockets off before full burst triggered roughly halfway towards a 5th?
so that team is around 3RL
meaning that emilia will hit past noah
so xmaiden wasnt expected to be linked?
yes that's normal for the enemy team, xmaiden is a backup B3 in that team
gotcha, so emi team will win in that matchup?
i was hoping she wasn't enough to nuke your link on helmt on max health, but she still does, probably a well invested xmaiden
ok will challenge again on another day
Is Noise Jackal Noah Cindy Laplace worth putting rocks into Noise to try to get attack on her lol. I need more attack so that she gets linked otherwise I can't really run it
need sr15 on rumani im assuming
essentially that team could use an anti nuke
not just sr5
that or remove water link
but you need a rumani or noise invested for that
you're looking at a team like this
this one loses water link weakness
xmaiden will kill noise only, while you finish them off
ic
get your batteries invested essentially and you can well beat the guy
If I hit mcducks padaxin will hit me, if I hit relics it kinda wasted try
Guess I ain't hitting?
ok
hit em when they log off and get some points imo
better than nothing
I wanna sleep and 7h in ch7 is brutal
that's a decent team but mostly for rookie or specific attack
then not worth, get ur beauty sleep
I just saw people running it in CA and people mentioning it and wasn't sure if I should try to invest for it or not
so given that the cindy team is 3RL, does this win prediction seem correct? @tropic summit
L
L
R
L
R
Even if bro offline for 1h after I hit they magically hit back then sleep for 20h 
well it's overcommited, you generally want to keep jackal and noah splitted
because if both are together, there's definitely one team way weaker
although CA has a few approaches:
-high risk high reward, 3 strong overall teams resistant to multiple archetypes, 1 weaker, 1 fodder
-spread risk, 4 weaker teams 1 filler, adds % of getting 3 wins if bad matchups
-very spread, 5 weaker teams, adds% of getting less counters, but also less effective
ask @umbral belfry
she now has the answer to the previous question of 3RL
Yeah I'm just seeing a ton of people run this jack cindy noah comp now it seems pretty popular
it's the first approach, high risk high reward, they probably running a far weaker 5th team
Only t1 and t3 look certain to me 
as someone who ran that twice in ca, yes. you def don't want cindy in p1 and p2 
what am I answering
i dunno i'm pve main

6/8 people in my top 8 have that comp right now
A cheer

I really like the team so I can see why LOL
oh lol that was just me listing names that isn't the actual order
are cindy and lap linked for you?
3 defenders, 1 supporter, 1 attacker, high chances noise is linked
if they did their homework, that's a noise taunt priority too
yeah I have cindy linked atm and was debating if I roll attack on noise to run this as well
my cindy has 40% atk OL and noise has none
noise linked there drastically increases that team perfomance
L if we're basing it of what rail said
likely R but it is possible for l to win if rosa snipes scar
R
L
R
you're kinda oof bc you don't want cindy p1 or p2
and you can't p5 cindy bc then lap will burst
lap in p5 is fine tho
thanks a bunch! 
Yeah I was running this atm
yeah that's what I run
linked noise jack noah cindy linked lap
I swear I hate these 50/50's on which team could win lol
I can't run a B3 unless I roll attack on noise
that team is
+resistant to nuke
+resistant to sg
+resistant to siren
+can contest indom (SBS will need to dig through a lot)
-may lose to stall
-may lose to scar-soda
I don't recommend rumani. I lost to a 3rl cindy team with centi LOL
It's coinflip after coinflip after coinflip
you ideally want an attacker
Yeah so I have to roll attack on noise then basically
it is although maybe weak to soda, as single B2
Is it worth it though
but this specific team sounds hard for you due to how your rolls are
for you tbh I'd say no
it works for me bc my noise is max core
the power of f2p 
and cindy p1 p2 means you're just giving opponent more burst gen. it's hard to justify using this team then
Lines? 
think I can improve these for defense?
granted you could just jack noise noah cindy lap. but you're losing out on burst gen you could have due to no linked unit in p2
atk%, def%, w/e

here's my nikke
so if it were up to me, I wouldn't run it unless you give noise more atk than cindy or you don't have a linked unit in p2 which seems bad imo
wondering if I can make a stronger team since I have more invested nikke
Ez af to fix 
Full roll 3/4 of these
yeah alright ty, guess I'll debate if I waste rocks or not
gl 
Why you runnin
what speeds do I want my defense teams to be again? 3/3/2?
But sbs is bugged. She has x2 damage against nero Moran 
hime bully time i see 
I can't confirm as I didn't fight any sbs with stall this rd but I doubt bugged sbs would win against an invested nero stall even now
her bug is just her s2 proc no?
if so then I still doubt she'd win, she should be walled either way bug or no bug
now if it's a bugged sbs with rh?
I'd lean your way
but no sbs I still doubt sbs wins
2x0 is 0 
🍿
no bully
will let ya know the result tomorrow!
There’s blanc and jackal s1 
loading 

Imagine emi gets indom
imagine having emi
ewww
but wait, there's worse
mods ban this guy

that's a horrible photoshop btw LMAO

Teams are quite low in combat power no?
....... OH
NOISE WITHOUT A DOLL
haha yeah it sure is
this one i've complicated feelings instead
thanks, I hate it
Trina and Rumani as well 
wait that's not real?
@ moderator
Reminds me of kimbap scene in that k pop movie
what's the weirdest thing you ate?
Its really unfortunate you lost to that too
chocolate ants
octopus when I was a kid
takoyaki is yummy tho 
but ye it's kinda daring at first
no rail. not takoyaki. full on octopus legs 😭
I don't have max cores
jesus le christ 
how did that even taste like?
it was somewhere in Mexico when I was a kid. idk why I w was there but just know I didn't like it 
did you slurp it like a noodle? 
fair
I forgot. it got stuck to my mouth and then I said nope and spat it out LMAO. this was like 15+ yrs ago I was a a kid
sounds like excuses 
oh gotcha, must've tasted weird
never again 🐙
i wouldn't be able to eat it either probably, unless they somehow make it NOT look like that
no more tako
curious if its a taste thing or a texture thing that is the nope for people.
I have a sensitive stomach for me I think it's both
what about wh at it is thing
i think taste one can probably deal with, but the texture/look can be particularly offputting
Guy with me just sr15ing pvp units while casually behind 7 chapters in campaign 
ScarBS hard countered alone already settle the fight, but yeah that 2B damage is pretty big
the man is on a mission
me soon 
he's yolking his nero and moran in private
I'm slacking off so hard in ch27. I should at least be ch28 now but I'm so lazy 
I wonder how long till I gap bro by like 40 sync 
i would use my usual meme but it wouldn't work on you 
It would work on me tho somehow
no i wouldn't
you wouldn't do that
i mean you can't even afford a new PC
oh I see

also that incident that scarred me as a kid is likely why I don't like takoyaki now 
a damn shame, they're so tasty but fears as a kid are hard to heal
Its even worse lol
Ok, let's do this
Swap Trina for Centi and move her to last placement
What's your combat power with that setup
who are you fighting btw echo? some other whel in bracket or a normie?
oh but nvm looks easy enough
Fresh sea uni
Is Check guy, he's 49X synch
Account got here in August, so maybe F2P
now those are particular 

cat 
in some places that's als- nvm
862->950
is that sea urchin?
looks like a cat deterrent
it is in fact not deterring the cat
You are the cat

I would love to know what was going through the mind of the person who first discovered sea urchin and thought "I want to eat that"
"ah yes, black spikey ball at the bottom of the sea. lets eat it!" like...why!? lol
retro rizz 
Also this in Australia. Crocodile and emu meat in the middle, left was just salmon and right I forgot what
Curiosity will kill the cat 
rip crocs 

I found a new level of sussyness 
"How sussy you are?"
"This guy SUSS
level"
I wonder that about a lot of mushrooms lol
"This one looks interesting, I wonder how---- NO BOB DON'T JUST THROW IT IN THE POT"
Staring at your power level.... 
My first squad is weak on purpose 
oh god mushrooms...even more so when poisonous ones can look almost identical to edible ones and the only way to tell is the slightly different underside...which can be hard to tell still LOL
@fathom rock if you ever get fed up with arena btw
Does this work without pc
I'll just stick to Minecraft or actually see wuwa done downloading
good ol minecraft
last change
Swap SBS Blanc to first round and Cindy team against Noah
Since Noah is placement 1 is safe to swap Siren with Noise placement, it'll stun her still and hopefully do a 3 win
Random video of cat I have on my phone
More games I can't play
ye that's on PC
I aspire to be like this guy one day
boy what a curriculum 

Check's Blanc team has no source of speed whatsoever (outside of Centi), it will never burst so as long as you have enough CP you should win with an actual PVP team @violet spoke
after 30+ years spent in IT, you kinda wanna go farmin', relatable
@tropic summit the og top 3 holders of my bracket are now diamond too
how can that bracket get even more cursed everyday
Bro had the money to retire and do whatever he wanted.
So he became a goose farmer.
what kind of pandora box did you open to obtain that
oh their T2 is execution squad breakfast
And a sync 361 just beat me up 
well maybe it's time to fix your anti monkey defense
and promote it to anti ape
Give me something 
I cant build half the teams in pins
Also I realized top 6 all of them keep trading blows
and that's where you strike
Gems 
and that's where you wait for tomorrow
Only guy holding is position is named "troll" ain't helping

Theyre below by 20k and I think it's cuz uncubed or bad lines
Wanna see rumani lines?
you've quantum on lvl 7 rite?
Regardless with cube they 20k - 30k below my pve
Sadly my first pvp investment
jackal s.anis helmt blanc trina
noise rumani sbs emi noah
cindy centi biscuit rh drakeT
test your monkeys with these
I'm the monkey 
Ill try, thank you 
T1 and T2 are your bread winners
T3 is just bait
if it fails, we change the bait into 4RL midhara bait
the idea here is to just abuse the double procs from s.anis and sbs
might get some lads unprepared to deal with it
ensure s.anis HP is lower than helmt, should already be, can give vigor to helm in case
awesome
Also emi 8+13cs
the idea here is that they should skip T1 and deal with T2 and T3
omg 
good, keep this option as 3rd change if both fail

should be creative enough to hit a few def wins
Thank you 
This bracket is grade A torture and so is looking at my pvp overloads
Bruh 920k power sync 411

eh that's fairly high
@keen vapor Took some time because i was upgrading characters but here are the results with the layout i think you were suggesting

How is the Raid Museum going
Not very well, but I have barely played it since release
I still havent beaten ultra challenge 
I used healer for SG team there
i was 800m off of beating it
Ultra is so Tia Naga focused
can someone tell this guy to touch some grass? istg he looks like hes always refresh SA everytime I attacked him 
I'll send him a dm
@vincejr stop
thank you 

whats the best way to counter Scarlet/Blanc/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal? I always get Scarlet last one standing and it just wipes my team in the end
There's too many Vince on the server
im dead serious, after I attacked, theres only less than 1 hr gap before he took back his rank
like is there any pvp rank indicator that I miss?
from blabla app
Something something
Noah biscuit Cinderella helm Rumani is how I approach it
You better have good firepower
ok. thanks.
Not yet, although it have appeared on surveys
you are hitting him during his active time, you need to wait for him to sleep 
I don't think they should
Noah/Rumani/Cinderella/HelmT/Biscuit or Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Biscuit/Rumani
is what i was thinking
ofc some people live around the game so they will check every hour 
nothing you can do about that
what is this behavior
whyd I laugh at this gif of lex luthor alone 😭
that's just how some people are 
not up to you to worry about why they are like that
First should keep Helm alive
Second will be buffed so better in level deficit
you could hit 3rd instead? you bounce back and forth from 5th to 2nd quickly
I need 2 Noah for my defence
noah and bay 
Build Bay 
Solo raid pls come quickly I want her SR doll 
Bay hot though 
Bay will never taunt a Siren 
ong
Am i doing something wrong if iam sitting on many SR dolls
no
Not really
something about these tanned women that turns me on 
tbh I wish there was way to convert SR doll to maint kit 
Shift Up one step ahead and only allowed in doll selector
You used both attacks within an hour?
Now pay
I tried 
You end up being at the bottom after your second attempt?
Like you lose second placement?
🥀
Damn
But there is a trick that lets you maximize your higher placement
Depending if he gems or not
Ima assume you’re at the bottom each time after two attempts cuz he reclaims it
But what you can do is save your second attack on right before reset

So then that way after the reset, you’ll end up at the top, and now he’s at the bottom
If you two trade attacks, you’ll still end up at the top cuz he’s gonna run out of attempts unless he gems
The reset is 4 hrs before I sleep and I got to go to work on next day 
Before you sleep usually means you're still awake 
4 hours before you sleep? how is that an issue?
He would attack right after I atk and logout

point is you lock in your attack just before the reset
then it doesn't matter as they have to gem to bring you down
seems he picked wrong server if his time zone sucks 
actually I guess reset is the same regardless of server
We have been in the same pools since I start this game
he knows every moment when I atk, as if like lex luthor learning about superman

Everyone has the same reset :pepeh: don't misinfo

do you need to trade with #2? 3 or 4 might be more chill? 🤔
I need power boost from lvl 501 if I need to take over 3-4
unless you wanna change your sleep schedule

but not worth 
I mean sleep can’t be allat important right
don't live around arena 
be the change that brings fresh air to your arena group
by converting to PvE main 
don't do it it's a trap
then you're just competing with solo raid whales though. it's all pvp. always has been
🌍 🧑🚀 🔫 🧑🚀
@umbral belfrytold me she's all in for top 3% this time 
I might need to use Soda on my elec team to break fire QTE because I have no better fires 
vesti will save us. pvp/sr crossover unit. surely 
you about to see some chef special 

this how you know my PvE invest is no good 

change it into
cindy scarlet trina soda rosanna and it might make sense
scarlet sacc, benefit from scarlet s2, benefit from soda stun, benefit from 33%+ burst gen from rosanna, benefit from cindy nuke buffed by trina
it's not for arena, it's my arena units attempting to cosplay Ziz SR team 
mhm
we can make it 2.5RL sac with cs and quant 
But my reset too convinient, 4 pm

me and rosy in the same timezone now 

Hime in the present
is sbs a clip rl?
no
okie
@raven plover

Whaler in my bracket usually login nikke once a day
After i atked him, he would login every 2hours
How can you tell
if only this was real
@final wedge yo valco
do you have recording of your nero moran fight vs deckhard's p2 mihara
Of course from the login log
Where do you see that
You can see from friendlist, block list or union list
errr idk how to record on phone
....but i lost cuz of her blanc debuff and her Mihara ded....then her Cindy burst killing every1 in my pt
Install an app if your phone doesn't has the function built in
so curious how is treasure bay and poli doing for arena
i ask because I have no other place I can really ask nor know any place that discusses it but here
also the google doc havent been updated in 5 months
no one survived the cindy burst?
Treasure gives them subtle changes, nothing game breaking or anything
Sir, we had a #1395218208553701506 FAQ 
no1...
Sir those are pvp treasures so I thought to ask in the pvp channel ALSO I had no idea that channel existed

Me neither a month ago 
Ofc asking in PVP channel is right
I really deserved this one 
in fact who would know that treasure discussion would be in faq and not in its own channel so its easier to spot
instead of a thread in faq
That's how threads are sent
you see the bubble speech icon?
Is different from actual channel thing
yeah but my point is pvp arena is obvious and easier to find
Yes yes 
if i want to find treasure discussion I have to dig around for it and I rather just ask in a proper channel or questions
not to take it out on you you did nothing wrong
Scarlet - Trina - Little Mermaid - THelm (stage 3) - Jackal
I'm not clear what Helm S1 level I need to make this 2RL
Tbf #questions will send you here
They almost never want to answer PVP
Can't blame them, getting top 30 rewards can be so free at times
Skill maxed
Take it or leave it

yeah I'd assume though, from what I've been told most the community do not want to engage with pvp
it's at lv5 rn, is that not enough?
We 10/10/10 Helm here 💪 
helm is def an auto 10/10/10
I feel you
A level 4 one should be on calc as well .....
See below centi
it's on calc but ig I thought this was not stage 2..?
since the wording is different
helm burst gen is part of why she is so good in campaign too, so very easy max
Correct
It's not great diff from phase 1 to 2 tbh (but it is still)
shes easily that good
I should.....
funny enough I just finished 10/10/10 mast yesterday
maybe I do the whole crew
She really is the best treasure of them all
why you haven't yet
Right 


arguably the best unit in the game if in terms of being soft or hard meta in all contents
Well, this month is ez skip so you can farm without a worry for now 

S anis banner feels so far away
this team kinda needs me to get SAnis next (?) month
because uh
I kinda have nothing after team #1, at least not on the level of scarlet-jackal
No, not this team
Ah, team 2 you mean
Is an option
I'm working toward
- Scarlet Trina Siren THelm Jackal
- Blanc SAnis Biscuit TLaplace Rumani
- high CP filler (cindy burst prolly)
no SBS and idk how I am supposed to do Cindy without Noah
Sounds good
Red tracer often does Centi Cindy
but I don't um...care (?) about PVP per se? I just wanna get a cohesive SP arena lineup so I can set it and forget it

Makes sense why you did go for anis Indom instead of the Moran Biscuit version
why is centi special?
Wait, what's your investment on Scarlet and Trina
none rn because I just got scarlet xD
Have you seen the burst gen page of the calc? Centi is among the top
which is why I'm here hehe
but I like scarlet for non-gameplay reasons anyway so I wanna build her
also for a forbidden reason 
Cuz Rurounis are cool 
ignore order but this is sorta what I would do for filler? because other than centi they're all high investment
would noise be good here
centi and noise aren't invested at all
it looks like I can replace either shotgun with noise and just barely get 3 RL with quantums?
but way lower CP
Replacing RH, yes
ohhh
Thought so 
On PVP we full burst once
she doesn't die?
Maybe
Is fine as long as the team bursts
You don't want to know what I send my Winter Guillotine to do 

the dishes

is anis just worse centi

Imagine having those and getting seen by others where I live . 
Or twice
ah yes good ol immortal noise 
old bug 
need help with main pvp team these are my only units so far
Better focus on Campaign for now:
Alice Blanc RH Tia Jackal
Auto team
Auto team
can I please have some Michelin chefs cook something up for me for SP def?
currently using this.
should I use the first team for rookie too
Yes. first team for rookie :
29.7 atk%, Rosa invest ^
Scar Siren/Rosanna Trina Centi Jackal
Noise Noah Cindy THelm Rumani
Blanc RH Biscuit laplace xMaiden
Really nice pvp account
Can check for more team ideas in pins. U have really good units invested
Thank you will try - missed out on sanis didnt play then
Should easily qualify for CA and rank high imo
SAnis dropped off alot imo
Damn. It happens 
I used to keep like 3 different setups and rotate
yea.. i will prob invest in soda and nero lmao but no mats to do so atm
tbh for CA i've had bad luck barely making it out of first round but also prob not making 4 good teams forget 5
Yeah, both are good
Thank you for your help appreciate it
what a strong counter to this team?
CP gap 
Alternatively,
Noise Noah Cindy 2RL
That looks like it tickles
Either a team with Noah and HelmT where the Helm burst-nukes, or a team that relies on Siren stunning their Blanc
Any team build to counter his team? Missing Noah
Like maybe this team, assuming you aren’t too behind on power
team work perfectly. thanks!
Who pinged
Idk, I feel overwhelmed here, but do you have Siren? If you do, you’ll want to consider using her. If vs the Blanc team, it’s possible to stun Blanc before she bursts. So it turns into a RH B1 -> Biscuit B2 -> RH B3 burst sequence. You can AoE wipe that, unless power is too low.
Or you can take Siren to vs enemy Scarlet, but that’s tough because Scarlet counterattacks Siren and might kill her. Nevertheless, if she survives she’ll stun Scarlet, causing enemy to do Rosanna B1 -> Trina B2 -> Noir B3. Which you might have an easier time surviving using stall / heal tactics like a Rapunzel B1 burst healing your team.
ye i have mostly everyone but that goblin noah
His Blanc team is very slow unless I put in wrong units
You can just easily AoE wipe that, like with 2RL Scarlet that isn’t too deficit vs his power score
is your ign still yurionly? 
I can confirm it is yes
Which team wins? I think the opponents team is going to win this fight 3w 2L... would I be right?
Team 1 = Opponent
Team 2 = Me
Team 3 = Opponent
Team 4 = Opponent
Team 5 = Me
o/
Why did you delete the pic
Any suggestions for a team 3? Preferably one that can survive against a full SG team(Naga, S Anis, Pepper, Anis, Drake)
Unfortunately idk your builds so I can’t be sure if this would work. It needs a lot of care (especially tempering cube and dolls) and Helm treasure 3. This should survive, stun Scarlet, Helm nuke 3 units, while also surviving enemy Rosanna nuke, and be heavily healed or full healed by Rapunzel.
Unless his Scarlet has too low ammo. Then she dodges the stun. RIP
2v1 is for my eyes only
@worthy knoll are you feeling like winning today?
You lost ca?
ofc, my worst build since CA1-2.
don't let him win 
yeah
btw
i'm not the person to chase for top rank
i am perfectly FINE at top 3/4 whatever
all I'm asking is that you attack him
I've made him spend 10k gems in the last 30 hrs
i know that he's the person that will always spend gems for attempt
can you show your defend attempt?
let me know so I can copy it, we need to waste as much of his gems as possible
i'll back you up too
you have to switch it
can't just keep 1 atk is too easy
the only reason he gets tripped up is switching def constantly
Ah
pls be pvp meta vesti plsplspls 
feel free
why not just put siren p1?
unless you're safe from another siren due to low scar ammo
my scar has too much ammo; not reason for positioning though
siren isn't linked
ah welp nevermind then 
im still working on rolls
a small tip for you is whenever siren does get linked, you can put siren p1. that way she protects scar from getting linked while still getting scar counters and burst gen
scar from getting stunned* I'm half asleep
yea i got what you meant thank you
bruh
per another friends advice, swapped jackal and scar to prevent Noah atk down from hitting scar also thought that was a good pt
that's also a good call 
@umbral belfry any ideas
I have sbs/ein
decently built ein?
okie 1 sec
is jackal currently being used elsewhere
if so it's not horrible but it puts you at risk of siren
Jackal is used in scarlet team
alright gimme a sec
But this does nothing because fhey have a rosanna
options
Hm
blanc can be in p1 for the 1st Pic but just know either way you're vulnerable to siren
Siren is so broken lol
you have a lot of options for 3rl sbs
this should take care of rosa
3rl is good
won't be an issue (for the 2rl version). you'll have sm feed already that blanc will indom
the xmaid ver will yes. but if you either had sbs solo b3 or 2 attackers it's very risky depending on rosa invest
having xmaid makes it much much safer
Hold on so I ahve to build xmaid?
but also the 3rl ver is still vulnerable to siren
well imo you'd want to have a decent xmaid regardless for pve and pvp so yes
Hm
at least decent
if you want ti exchange for lap you can but just know for the 3rl ver you're risking rosa sniping both if she's good
but if you're fighting a 2rl scar rosa do the 2rl ver. scar rosa can't stop a 2rl sbs (or likely 2rl ein)
either way both are weak to noah bisc so if you put this on def it's kinda oof
Anyway sleepy time for me, gn and gl to you both 
damn was about to ask more gn then
you can if its an easy question
Its a hard one
I just got work in the morning LOL
Just get sone rest then

would i be wrong in thinking right wins 
Probably yes

assuming right is on def then I think they win 1/4 outright
operation eagle eye is on the go sir
1 because sg's will chomp rapunzel and then eat the stall team from the outside in, will probably snowball unless the rapunzel is super tanky
4 because opponent sgs will pointlessly be shooting at blanc who is biscuit immune
left wins 5 imo right team 5 is ???
so boils down to match 2/3 for the rest
probably
R
L
R
R
L
but yeah, right good chance to win. @tribal folio 
weird my whale was online a few hours ago but didn't attack me
i'll take it, more time to chill
They were waiting for you to go offline. 
I was already long asleep by then 😄
okay lazy head like me. 
they seem to have times when they're lazer focused on hitting back and others where they are offline for 12+ hours, so I figure maybe just busy touching grass
but it means they can never really hold 1 as long as I can take it back as I can just sneak in when they're away 😄
what other nikkes are you hiding?
are there more below those?
T2 R
Same 2rl right?
opposite really - too much ammo lol
Soda stun both Noise and Noah. 
Noah can't burst = lose
rumani so strong she's in 2 teams 😄
looks good always a bit hesistant to recommend anis just as she'll have low cp
as you probably won't build her unless you run CA
@umbral crown Are you still in?
mine is SR-5 but I use mine in CA 😄
not sure I'll ever jump her higher than SR-5 mind you
Rumani?
Is it bad to build her up more than normally?
anis
I kinda barebones her so far, OL+2 except boots are +4
8/4/8 because I didn’t know if s1 or burst would help her with withstanding attacks
Oh
I wanna build her to SR15

i'd build rumani over anis
Oh okay, I’m gonna do that
But first Centi
my rumani is SR-5 with 4 OL and aiming for 7/7/7 skills (cost isn't too bad and I don't mind the cp pad)
probably not given she is not usually main tank
often thrown on the end to split focus and taunt after burst
but yeah same with like centi I think, but I over-skill a bit due to mainly investing in pvp
think both work just fine at 4/4/4 on more of a budget build
but I'm building moran to 10/10/10 so maybe that gives you an idea how crazy I am 😄
1.5rl(?) burst...
jackal is bugged atm
lmao
siren is also bugged across SPA matches ammo count doesn't reset in SPA
so if this is SPA and you're on match 2 or 3 the burst gen from ammo fired thing she does keeps previous round counts
This is my Moran
All OL+5 gear
you
me
… same

I have to overinvest because in sp.a I am 20 levels behind most of the top 20 players

I just got xmaiden to SR-15 today as well, I have enough materials + solo raid coming to get Vesti to similar if she's good I think
my only SPA without SR-15 is now centi and trina who are SR-5 - I will eventually SR-15 them as well
I need more nero dupes I have her at LB-0 and I think it compromises the impact of the stall comp a bit when the main tank is low dupes
speaking of that @nimble swan it might be why my nero wasn't hyper tanky, low dupes means less stats 😛
🧱 
How does he only become online when I hit 
So anyone able to do siren full MG 2rl in SpA?
It's magic. 
bot wins?
#pvp-arena message:TimiProud:
But bro be offline for like 1h/4h/5h/7h/20h and when I hit he instant hit back 
You can try that and see if your login record is updated or not
last login time, doesnt account if player is always logged in
Hmm yeah it would help but I’m not sure how much tbh.
Dupes are between 1-2% (it was like 1.7% avg when I checked) main stats increase until MLB, cores give less, and it’s varying / nikke.
And you need to transfer that into skills.
But I got 2 dupes for Scarlet recently, and she got stronger apparently, so guess Nero scales decently with dupes too.
So, while i’m hunting for my last Laplace copy, you go for Nero 
What do you check to see when is he offline?
Or online









