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Not like pvp 
I think you can do it yep
Ch22 is also doable 
23+ gonna get messy
if you can do 22 my experience is you can do until like 24 ish
at the least, some annoying stages there
You know that I only beaten nihil because I was like "maybe I should use treasure viper" and she added enough dammage ๐
Btw are eunwha/emma any good for pvp?
Meh eunhwa nope, Emma I haven't seen anyone use her
@gritty ridge Better than expected
I died
ripidi
perfectly countered
I real need to give CS to cinderella / noah team

we go again next CA 
my scarlet needs some rolls as feel like I lost a couple of matches with her where if she had some atk rolls I could have won them
but otherwise not really a ton of improvements I can make necessarily beyond trying to roll all my batteries to 18% CS or w/e
which isn't easy
what's the skill recommandation for poli's treasure ?
guessing alice got indom
Yeah
Basically any team can win against this team. 
anyone ?
bruh
Glad I have never lose this bad. 
maybe it's today. Maybe. 
@raven plover got champ with old Emma. He lost the most with it though.
We get alice dupes from standard recruits mileage. Imagine having higher sbs hp 
man second time in a row people voted majority against me and i won lol
tbf they voted for a CA winner and sin whale
I remember first time I got champ, all 6 matches were majority against me. 
It's always the underdogs that end up winning it seems like
nothing really wrong with my teams I think it was just counters in the right places
and my opponent had reasonably invested teams
time to see if i died
i\ll look for u
It's really today. 
At least I verified that Emi Jackal indom bad. 
i lived
yeah I saw 3-2, champ run?
5-0 bro ๐
eah my blanc didnt burst in time
Luck isn't on my side this time. 
my SBS indom lost to 2RL scarlet as I expected
my 2RL scarlet couldn't chomp through the stall comp pretty much expected (weirdly the 3rd time I had that same match in this CA)
my Cindy jackal/noah couldn't beat SBS indom on the same sort of speed again sort of expected
my SG couldn't eat through the biscuit locked cindy
my stall died to SG comp who just pummelled nero I guess to death pretty quick even with tempura and SR-15 ๐
basically I knew I'd lost 2 matches and I wasn't that confident on any of the other 3 when looking at this yesterday

you and @swift mango must hate tuesdays
insane luck that season, using emma and no biscuit
Classic case of slower indom win. 
that biscuit...
that was my own match assessment yesterday haha
just had to turn the ? into L ๐
my cinderella team killed a stall
yeah it can happen if you got lots of cores and decent invest
some rng on cindy killing enough
I'd give my cindy a higher chance to take stall out than say my 2RL scar atm :p
Moran just ain't it bro. 
The rest is just nothing new to talk about. 
Noise+Helm is just worse than Moran+Helm
And biscuit win against SG.
nah their rapunzel and mana was weak
in any case just time to rebuild and send the next rng arena teams for next CA ๐
I can sleep now 
At least my joke teams made it to top 32. 
bro's ca team has higher cp than mine
cp doesn't mean loads though
I'm working rn
my opponent was sufficiently invested to be a threat
but I am
bc bad matchups
in the places where it mattered the most
lock in hippo
My opponent basically all max core whale with current top meta teams but use Bay instead of Nero. 
@shell hazel ur whale died before you did tho
well the 2 others in my bracket expired before i did
its fine given one time i didnt even make it out of 64 i think
curious to see the layout of the top 8 
i just want the 2 win frame
the day that happens is the day my CA only teams gets no more investment
my regular spa teams will will get love tho
I just wanted to win twice so I could bet against myself and get the loser frame ๐
yeah I'm at the point of mostly doing those anyway so I can keep on hitting whale boy for a while
I'm lazy to build new nikkes teams next season.
Would just copy pasta some of my old teams and done. 
they'll need to escape my CP to like 441 or something to get away
I like following the CA stuff but ultimately doesn't mean much if I win or lose
still I want my teams to do well if possible
seems like everyone use similar stuff now days anyway
sg/indom/2rlscarlet/cinderella noah/stall of sorts
Basically
Rosa SG
Nero Moran Helm Rapu
Noise+Noah+Cindy+Jackal
Scar+Trina
Blanc+Emi+Biscuit+Midhara+Rumani
The current CA meta line up. 
does anyone know how red chip spa get generated? like per 10 sec or what?
SAnis only works in stall team but she is worse than Helm now
Per minute I guess
At least not per 6 seconds.

well it should calc the exact amount of time you hold but I don't think it pays out instantly
so literal best way to get highest points is to claim before reset??
no it auto collects everything you didn't claim
No. 

so it doesn't matter if you never collect after your first collect
so game auto claims lets say for example 3 hours if u didnt claim 3 hour before reset?
yes, down to the exact second
oh nice
so you can keep your score hidden if people are not tracking you 
not that it should matter if you are holding rank 1 perma 
a korean is closing in in terms of sync but it will still be a while
Red one doesn't have a limit and automatically claims all at the end of the season.
The other chip has a limit and need to be claimed every 22 hours or so if you were high rank

what if u hold a rank for 22 seconds?
You could test it by open the app, claim and wait 22 seconds.
if you get deranked after 22 seconds it will calc your salary at previous rank for 22 seconds + separately calc your salary for your current rank when you actually get paid

@tropic summit I have raised Trina, Noah and Rumani as suggested. Is there anything I should be changing for the SPA DEF now that I have done so? At present, with the set ups I had before the CP is near 2.8million
@tropic summit for the record, I am using this suggested set up on SPA
Just saw a comp in ca noah whiffed lol
I thought whiff is not a thing anymore
Maybe i saw it wrong
The projectile is green
t1 win
t2 loss, your Pepper will die to bugged Scar counter and you have no B1
t3 depends on who has better Rosanna
t4 win
t5 win
you should win, their Noir will die before your BSoda does so even if he has max s2 he should not one-shot both BSoda + Drake but you will one-shot theirs
maybe your BSoda dies but that's all
weird that chall 3 gives 10 points per min
actually t5 kinda weird cuz you have Noise taunt prio 
Her CS is lower than noahs

calculate by seconds
you gained extra .17 coins from rounding 
it should work the same way like outpost
Idk if outpost has exact timer the way PvP does
and then this
hmm right
i think it is calculated the moment hh:mm:00
then the game check your rank and give you point
if u have like 10.5 chip. it will give you 10 and add the rest to next time
5 coin diff is a lot though 
no
Idk why the gap is that big
u calculate it wrong
i got 49 coins because it is reward for 5 minutes, not 5.5 min

5*9.83 = 49.15
so the game gives me 49
@coarse solstice sending you pie buffs ๐ฅง
could anyone predict this? my brain hurts.
investment plays big roles here i think
I'm in top 8! Woo!
...But judging by the votes that's where it stops -.-
L W W L W
no way left win right game 5

Scar Mermaid into 2x Jackal bug feeds them to 1RL I think

they might die to Rei nuke before Scar can even burst
this wouldn't work agains't 2rl scarlet right? biscuit cannot invul all 3, only 2, so he cannot even ensure right nikke survives
not to mention speed
i mean it is non-jackal vs jackal
team 1 to 4 are tricky ones
the moment noah burst. even rei doesn't nuke. manual hit during 3 sec enough to kill
t1 SG probably suicide into 2x Scar counter bug
He already knows the result
stop bruh. im serious
t2 SG kills Rapu, Ros disables Mana revive and one-shots Helm
also biscuit
t3 depends on invest, probably check both their prev match history and see if they had that match before and who won

I feel like stall should win in theory
cuz LapT should be able to kill Noise pretty well
actually LapT gonna get taunted by Noah burst, so she will hit Noah and splash Biscuit + Noise
double elec getting hit by iron
t3 i think noah will burst and helm will not nuke because of shield thencindy kill helm and laplace.
those 101010 nero and moran are another story
might be able to 2v5
Helm should be 74% dmg reduc if it's 10/10/10 Nero Moran and SR15 and lv7+ tempering, it's possible to survive Cinderella nuke if not crit
if crit then 
i dont believe in crit but i believe in 90%+ ele cindy
I don't think LapT can die though
my screenshot are different from posted above, it's commander level 200 CA
scar vs cindy, but i'm unsure on biscuit interaction with so many defenders vs 2rl scar
check the speed? https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
it's 2rl vs 4rl, already checked
they are dead before Cinderella can burst
Biscuit cannot save from 100 to 0
Crown will trigger one Biscuit proc cuz Scar 2x counter, the second one probably won't trigger ever
then scar win
because team insta dies
ah, i see 
well Crown will live for like 2 extra seconds 
Prolly will trigger onto Cindy getting hit by RH, Helm and Scar S2.. but ehh doesn't matter as long Noise and Rumani is dead, no B1. With those no core and no doll, impossible for them to survive 
man. that Rei team is 2RL
i think that sugar guy is the only one with 25% cs emi in my bracket
@umbral crown f**k i won 
my credit boxes 
bay tanked the whole cindy nuke
their SG team somehow failed killing noise
what happened here is beyond me
it was single B1 noise in p1 against SGs on attacking side 
this one is also priceless
and slow cindy on 5/0 streak
another nero moran bites the dust
cindy p1 lel
there's noway i win next one either way, if i do this game really broke with latest bugs
indeed 
I am surprised how fast the pies got knocked out this time 
I didn't even realize ace lost
this Seung guy with his faker teams 
we got eaten
but to be fair my loss didn't surprise me at all
I had really bad matchups
at least now I can sleep 
guys i will be requesting help with CA predictions
at some point
im tired of losing one bet every single time
there's no way you still don't have both frames 
im going to bash my head in if i miss it again
i lost my last like 3 CA by one bet each
my lunch just ended sorry ash
to be fair though i havent had the time to sit down and examine, and also im a noob because im almost full pve invest
I am also almost caught up to Hime in campaign, why you slack 
you already left me in game twice, i expected nothing more from you 
just for that when I'm home im.gonna push
okay bye bye

hime just beats me up for months and then leaves me in the dust
tbh I can't even clear 27-1, I time out on the target because too much deficit 
i beat 23-21 and then got stuck on 23-23 like a silly goose
but to be fair, even though my cp isnt as low as the lowest clears, my synchro is lowest by at least 10 so my cp padded OLs dont help at all
well there is always Retro, lowest sync and lowest CP in ch26 
just have 50 Atk 100 ele Rapi

best i can do is black line DEF cindy
worthless against Vesti
vestiz nuts
How do some of you put ca teams vs another on a image
you as well? ๐
congrats but also wtf ๐
But rail, always believe in yourself
bay pulling out a full block and my noise noah surviving SG pressure was not within my expectations 
from expected 2-3 to 4-1 is something else
Right team is on the bottom, that means defense right
gonna watch em now i'm still unbelieving, but split tanking making wonders
next matchup has 3 counters again tho against me 
yeah ok split tank saved noise's ass
Ane noise noah make a good interaction together
Now make your noah max skill
let's see bay full block
untreasured 
oh wow kinda clutch this one, didn't even get moran B1
is your bay treasured Rail?
no
my whale appears to have given up for the day
I wonder if treasure might actually make her worse here?
theoretically no, treasure should be an upgrade stat wise and a tad extra healing
also ensures she has full cover up
she tanked the full snapshot part
then distributed the afterhits
if moran bursted it would've been less painful
is BayT the next thing to build then? ๐
it means splitting out nero/moran ofc, a lot of investment
the mere fact you can save a noah by just using bay instead to deal with scarlet can change a lot of things
she is definitely better on Atk than Def
yeah, I'm going to wait for Vesti testing still I guess
in CA it's more about the luck of ordering teams
Bay won't self taunt a siren onto her 
but on Atk doesn't really need invest unless you need CP
top 8 rail is this the furthest yet?
she's a good investiment imo, situational and probably not as core as others, but as long as she has usage, it's good
i think i always stopped at top16 before
plus the lobby screen in my PG-13 game

awesome work sir rail champ run lets go!
what do you make of next match?
winning CA without emilia would finally shove it up Blood's rear, so that'd be nice
haha
i should theoretically lose
but T3 and T5 have been outperforming
but we saw how that theory went last time 
Bro plays ca just cuz he wanna-
is next set also against nero/moran?
it's weird how often your slow cindy has encountered that (my nero/moran also t5!)
wow
5/0?
pulled off the cindy indom 
I had no major plan
Have one next time 
๐ฟ
I will plan my rng deployments ๐
If I load this will my data vanish
simply put:

That rumani gonna be my gym motivation today
We know. 
which then became this
i was talking to Retro go back to your cave with your emilia 
here, get your pillow
cinderella indom is bold lol
that's fundamentally a meme team
RH should've been midhara but i don't have her built 
@fathom rock OUR Emilia. ๐จ๐ณ
bro my cinderella has literal the highest hp of anything in my box 
Does anyone have guesses? Idk a lot of these nikke
why the chinese fl- oh. 
I'm assuming the sg team can burst down noah
So does @cedar orbit
give me a Cinderella dakimakura
Does your Cindy have more hp than everything combined in your box
ill take one but with Mermaid on the flip side 
defenders don't have that much hp
my box is big, I own more than 2 Nikkes
Most of my box isnt in sync so it'll probably be more than mine
i mean my cinderella is 5mil and my noah is 4.8
you're out too? 
So basically the stats stay for CA, but you get no deficit?
sync 400
So theoretically better invested nikke still have an advantage?
yeah, pvp sweats who put 4 ele 4 atk lines on their Jackal have an advantage
Guess my vote doesn't matter. 
very out - 5-0 out lol
every team countered
Unsure who to vote for here fam
my noah is max core my cinderella is core6 
I thought I'd lose so not a big surprise ๐
it would matter if you had 20 accounts
and you can be sure at least 1 chinese does
Any insight? 
that's just CA, i've lost count of 3 counters matches
i used to distribute power in 4 teams with a filler, 3 main teams and 2 fillers seems to be working better
when everyone runs similar teams and has similar investments yep
should definitely prioritize archetypes that have less counters overall
just placement/attack/def spins
nero moran have few
SG teams are balanced
scar-siren or scar-soda can be wild cards
biscuit locked fast teams are sort of safe
w/e leftover with indom/antinuke
Is it worthwhile building bay if I get her? I got helm tove and drake treasured now
no siren and no soda right?
siren is in my indom team
oh oke
which actually won 5 and then lost 1 so I'm kind of OK with that
glass cannon scarlet is kinda meh, although it would work on nero moran
and on slow teams ofc
mine didn't but I think bricked scar
it lost to nero/moran/bay style comps like 3 times ๐
double buff and still no wiperoni? dayum
yeah, she is busted
but you need treasure as always
booba guy quit for today
but I doubt I'll be this successful again given they have a power spike
Yeah that's the idea, figured when I get bay ill claim dupes for her since idk what else to use the standard tickets on
2.14M to my 1.93M
Ffs
wow he's still losing on attack
and even gemmed
btw I didn't use any gems today ๐
I'm losing on attacks, because you guys don't give good advice, smh
you better not to, it's not worth it
I haven't used any yet
plus those ppl get off from gemming so you just playing their game
I have 1 chip left
I had 2
this was from the 4 freebies a while back
yeah you can see I wait a bit, I don't usually hit back right away, keep em guessing ๐
depends who you're asking
what do I use vs 2 RL Moran, Bay, Helm team that kills my Blanc in 2RL?
show all 3 teams
blanc is like natural counter to moran
then don't ask for help 
your Blanc unprotected p1?
how is she dying at 2RL 
bro probably has 45% attack on all his units
Give blanc all the resources
When you wanted to have your scarlet avoid stun but their Siren just ded to counter. 
uh yeah Mermaid/Soda with no link against 2x Scar counter is just death 
it will work again after they remove seasonal buffs 
Did Trina nuke siren
Soda is burst 1 she usually lives to burst and die.
Siren on the other hand. 
core 7 temperance 11 should solve that
Just need another whale's Soda. 
Just turn her into pop
it's this team, kills Blanc P1 before she can burst, other time kills Trina in P2 before she can burst, both 2 RL teams
why are you running unprotected blanc in p1 anyway 
well you are unprotected Blanc p1 against Emi Laplace, that was missing info 
Why does bay have "beer" on her shirt
bro is trying to drive a lamborghini on the sea
because she is not supposed to die
What if you just put blanc in a different position
They can't stun mine siren scarlet either. 
all crappy teams in that bracket of yours
Blood is playing vs me
wtf is that team 
probably using one of their attack teams on defense
Does defense team even matter in rookie
Seems like anyone with an understanding can just build a team to beat it if they care enough
it's not 2RL that's all I know 
do I just have to become a coward like everyone else and run a stall team into a Cindy team and Noah Biscuit the Scarlet team?
He is 10 levels above me and his siren core +1 and max doll. 
Oh since I have helmt can I make easier 2rl teams
yes you bamboozle the higher level whale guy into losing

you know better than me that it does not matter in the slightest 
How'd you bamboozle him
It matters that his siren ded to counter or not. 
That's one tanky team
10 levels or not won't matter, go with 61+ levels
Crit rate + ATK just do wonder. 
it's probably easy beaten but I was just changing my defence every day ๐
It's 1 level tier above, my siren survive counter from bad scar easily. 
I probably can't even kill one of your defenders if they were solo
I have invested a lot of random units for CA so my team possibilities are large
"bad scar", thank you 
How is your scar? Maybe it's also' bad. 
who is gonna top 0,3% solo raid now?
any team can be countered tbh, I dare say there is a team that beats this
Definitely not me. 
yes very bad, so bad it can win 20% deficit 
But can you counter kill siren? 
ouch 
see how futile my teams were 
the only one I probably should have won is the scar one but she didn't wipe em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWl9wCzwaqc
I'll watch them after work
what's ur scar atk%?
didn't even kill mana 
I mean, even Rakuen zero ATK, 10% Crit rate scarlet could win 20% deficit. 
0%
yes yes you're the best 
@shell hazel I'm proud of this tho 
I have no atk rolls
oh ok that kinda answers it
yes
but I mean, that wouldn't have won the other matches. I know I need to fix scar ๐
One buffer scalter wiped your Cindy team. The sbs bug working overtime
this is basically how mine went lol
it is, the proccs are broken
my SBS is also getting better perfomance than it should
yeah OK so that also feeds into it as well
I probably should have won that one in normal circumstances

so with fixed scar atk rolls I'd beat that stall comp
and with non bugged SBS I'd not die to the SBS that killed me
that would leave me 3-2 still but I guess the others don't have the same issues
I use DKW and his Siren still ded. 
lucksack
20% Crit rate so it's 35% Crit per counter. Crit work better with counter than with the wipe. 
@swift mango why tho... why arenโt you here, my friend 
he was too busy building scarlet
My team this time was full of joke. 
And got hard counter by full core+7 whale. 
let me see
excuses 
Just look at my Anchor lying on the floor. 
lol did u forget swap helmt and sanis ?
Rail do you think that vesti will wind up being meta?
wow centi clutch tho
that's some fine RNG 
Doesn't really matter in this case. 
inb4 it was her shield procc
my rumani almost clutched a game ๐
no clue i'm waiting for others to test her
1 more day then we see 
almost max core
I kind of hope she doesn't wind up being one tbh I have enough shit to build atm
Which unit of his that's not max core? 
I see none.
trina just 3 core
you can take ur time she won't run away
you're holding top ch rank and you get access to CA every season, you don't have pressure
means I also need to pull though
Is Treasure Bay worth it for Special arena or is she more for CA?
she's worth if you don't have noah and don't have indom
yeah true, though I think eventually I'll partially yield fighting for ch.1 will just hit the booba guy when I can ๐
you should, that's the only way to deal with those
don't gem, don't waste time
well it seems I can always attack them before the reset
and don't give info
I'm not even changing my teams atm, just running same ones
I don't even know how they lost today, I didn't do anything new
Thank you. Will save my mats for now. Just missing Noise
they reverse engineering to find out your attack teams
but if I run the same teams each time what can they learn?
go ask them
ryokai!
from what you showed me, they sound like a special snowflake already anyway

like most chinnits
it's funny, I find it amusing
you won't find it funny once it starts being 3 of them
for me all I want is ch. 1 this SPA to make them regret all their time wasted on it ๐
that is signifying each season shuffle ๐
depends on who quit of your brackets
if it's whales quitting, you might get normal lads
if it's the opposite...
tbh my last one looked pretty active anyway
1-10 was all active folks
so they just shuffled in a bunch in anyway looked like a full on 50/50 merge
I give up. The 2 guys in my bracket with siren. Both died to counter every time. 
not much I can do if they keep shuffling whales in ofc, hopefully the situation won't get worse
don't worry, it will always get gradually worse [c] my first boss
๐
just hold your spot while transitioning to PvE main 
the real late game, right here
I will do tbh, one day, not in the distant future
pvp is more of a temp honeymoon
I have certain things I want to hit level/ol wise
once you realize how stupid and meaningless it is, you'll want PvE more than PvP
once my units are all where I want them I can pve main
You mean just losing your spot overtime as you transition into PvE main? 
ah I mean I do like the pve it's why i'm chapter 30 hard
yes 
rephrase it correctly: "i like to suffer through pve"
true it's suffering ๐

it's also why I pulled for doros and midhara and things I want to build my raid units out some
3% SR on global is not sweaty anyway 
once I'm satisifed with where my pvp comps are I'll definitely flip mostly to pve build. I'm not far off my skill targets
Midhara is Arena meta. 
maybe when you are trying to push 1%
I'd want to push for 1% or beyond eventually
Yeah, just around equal to 5% in SEA.
but I don't care for like top 10 or anything
it's too far out there to worry about
just set my sights on 1-3% and go from there, last couple I was closer to 5%
imagine surface exploration is sweaty content 

Imagine SU creating a none sweaty content. 
it looks more chill to me
surface exploration with no sync cap so you get pummeled by lv2000 enemies 
just give me a non-rip off, non filler, non repetitive, non budget extra game mode that actually is fun and can be enjoyed
In before you get to build base, soldiers and it could be attacked by other players. 

you already escaped that hell, you sure you wanna return to it 
Maybe SU would make us return to it. 
noway, best they can do is just another budget filler mode 
mfs got very comfy on their money schemes 
Double game earning would make them bank. 
that's why they have double effect bug in arena
the community surely wouldn't get bait- omg 
to go with double game earning 
Lure in by ass and spend more money on City sim.
Beat money making City sim war game ever. 

i forgot blood was a time traveller
my union member said it looks like abyssal expedition from AFK Arena, if it is that means they copied 2 modes from that game 
he did accidentaly mention it the other day 
they both basically coping civ games
4K nikke 
hexagon movement
I'm sure it's just some guy hacking me, not me from the future. 
My na has no emilia and the others can't properly pvp 
Darn you have 2 Emilia. The winner in this chat. 
I do wonder if we are gonna play with other people though, cuz it seem like for AFK arena more than 1 person is hitting the bosses 
So SU gonna double dip into City sim war game now. Prepare your political class so you could aid your union. 
Afk arena the game that's not ca mentioned? 

SU don't need to make their own game mode if other people made it already 
just change the char out for Nikke
They can use Ai worst case scenario
i swear they've gotten so good at ripping off things
most minigames were rip offs of something
they're also masters of resource reusage, look at all the recoloured bosses
Last minigame absolutely sucked tho
suika game but nikke brand on it 
that mini-game was just luck
This is already half AI creation game. So they could make it full AI creation game in the future. 
or the Stellar Blade minigame with real time turn based controls
imagine losing with your first shake skill 3 times at +130k

also
Box too full so can't shake anymore. 
look at this run
Yeah, what I said. 
no, they always stacked to 1 side and the icons stayed more than 5 sec above the line
I mean you got too many little heads in the middle that blocked the big heads from combine. I got something like that once and my 4 shakes were all useless.
Yeah very rage inducing too
Made me more mad than campaign stage design

I mean it was planned all along.
We would get our unique nikkes as hero units.
And mass produced Nikke without a brain as soldiers like Nier Collab they just reran.
They would build bunkers, outposts and make a town. Then fighting each other for territory. 
..eventually to reclaim the surface they would march their army to fight heretic bosses together. 
matching 
did we get bad mobs this last story update(?)
No new mobs afaik but the stage formations absolutely
Suck
at least no new flag or time gated stages
4x glass 2x barbell stage
3x wheel stages
Volleyball peekaboo bulwark spam stages
And it's water weak 
And the amount of repeat stages is diabolical
Imagine the amount of speed up and resources SU could sell. 
stop slacking and get to outpost lvl 500
I am not slacking am trying
Rrh lacking dmg so I'm alicing till game doesn't stutter too much
i can't relate, i'm actually f2p unlike some others f2p in this chat
You mean, shake the box and you loss? I just realized what you mean. It's suck alright. 
F2p vs F2PBTW
the stutter i can understand 
some stages have massive FPS drops for no reasons
@shell hazel
Damn wtf was that SG attack win against your stall.
I remembered you usually win these, but your nero and helm died pretty fast, that rosa should have had quite some ELE?
4 farter crawler spam stage 32-17 
By best bet is to mimick what I did in ch31 and rng that 2 untis die at start of boss wave for fps
well theoretically helm shouldn't survive rosanna 
for me Helm always survives with like 1% hp

that's because enemy rosanna are probably low on ele atk%
I mean, bring the outpost building to surface contents so we start to build a surface outpost there. Every building would cost hours to months to years to build and upgrade. So they would sell 24h speed up for 2 dollars or something like that. 
Can someone please assist me with this?
how did i clear that again 
my box
i mean if i'm attacking with SG but you right she's low on ELE
your teams are on the left
you are the best
doublecheck CP before running, ensure you're not in deficit especially on scar team

don't. give. them. ideas.
also stay away from that raiding horrible game with microtransactions 
60fps + power above 850k?
hmm probably
i was around 30-35% deficit
and i definitely ran RH and alice B3
Well I'm doing 43% 
rh crown rrh alice helmt
you didn't box yet?
You outlvl me btw
I won't box till 102/h comes to me and that's final
oh wow madlad
no wonder you suffering
i suppose if you do get to outpost lvl 500 and THEN box you'd get pretty good min/maxing
Losing 1000 gem to get back 60 hours core dust or something like that.
so you saying what @fathom rock is doing not worth it? 
Other than x.anne and sanis coming up, any pvp reruns?
I mean it's the same in the end, no? 
Sir what 1k gem loss
i dunno i'm not familiar with the min/maxing wipeout/hoarding
From being bricked in arena. 
Getting 461 rn would still keep me same rank 
puts you in MC range though, so can start pushing campaign again 
But you would lose rank by being still 461 in 6 months. 
2k->1.6k Is a loss I'm willing to take for 7 extra levels by ch44
Ill need 481 for mc 
could be reasonable
maybe 
hard boss. but possible 
Are you sure it's just that.? 
what would be lineups for 461 attempt?
i guess it involves ein
Are you implying the 361s below will destroy me
i did cindy/liter/helm/crown/mmast actually
I have 4 ele 4 atk ein that I'll use
oh the mmast
Cindy crown ein liter mmast
I guess when you are arena bricked already, it doesn't matter. 
3000 to 1600 is big. But 2000 to 1600 is small
what are the rotations there?
not familiar with mmast tbh
Ein first burst and mmast every 3rd burst
I didn't pilot my mc kill though. Mooey did because that was a new team to try another of our guild mates came up with and i had a strong helm. mooey was able to top 5 low clear, then the other guild mate all time low cleared with that team
I was close on my own, but i probably would have been 470ish before clear without mooey pilot
mmast - crown - crown - mmast?
mooey recorded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9GJ_PlAiyM
Low clear with no ein, no seasonal units.
5th lowest clear NA as of 5/21/25
Crown crown mmast
oh alrighty
I'll end up running mmast or sanis
My helmT is trash cp and I have 0 reason to fix her
||arena||
Jokes on you
You know damn well the issue with that
yeah not sure what I could have set diff here, nero is SR-15 and tempura level 8 ๐
the perfectly balanced and lovely bracket you're in 
@fathom rock I told you 
there's some weird bugs going on atm not impossible for some crazy results

it's honk shoo mimimii time for me
if one was to ask me "please tell us about the worst kind of bracket you've seen", i'd have the perfect answer
Retro probably has some pented up luck waiting to be released to even it out
The 441s there can reach 1m
Did you hit 1m rail 
with campaign team?

Half campaign half pvp
uhmmmmm
475, my proper pvp team canโt reach 1m
Bro has 200k cp noah 
oh i actually do
and it's not even accounting for scarlet
I'm just bricc like that then

Good lines, bad cp on almost all my units
well my alice lappy and rh are pretty stocked
helmt is sort of there, SBS is decently stocked
Guy might have been critting, but anyway, shit happens. Meanwhhile he's now facing Splirnok guy and i'm baffled he's even in top8. Splirnok goes with the same teams for like 7 seasons now, and 1 is trash, 1 is slow. I have to bet on him all the time and always facing easy opponents.
And my best is top16 still.. and always facing past top 4 
yeah I notice he always does well but didn't think much of their teams either ๐
some are born lucky probably ๐
wish it showed the burst stuff from the defender side as well as I'm not sure my moran even burst on my stall comp
my Helm CS needs a bit of work but it's 16% I think with adjutant on
hmm yeah, nero seemed to die too early
yeah it's more than rosa's total dmg
I lost 3 at least due to SBS bug we worked out
she's doing more damage than she should so single buff sbs mauled my cindy
2 was my scarlet lack of atk lines, should be lethal against nero/moran with double buff
i know about it but i don't know how/why it happens, what's the trigger
bunch of units got double effects going on atm
like jackal link gen is doubled
with SBS it means she puts out a lot more damage than she should do, normally I think against my team she'd run out of power by the time her burst ended on indom
let me watch that match
yeah, btw you think your sbs did more dmg than it should against my noah bisc?
very possible also ๐
don't think there's a reason for it other than potato code, just a bunch of units that have skill 1/2 effects that hit the opponent are hitting twice
it's every single match too, it's not random
so Scarlet is doing double counter, Jackal is getting double proc
imagine next CA with Vesti double hitting true damage 
depends on how many people report it, i think
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every team that doesn't have Vesti dead by 2RL
bro wtf
usual scam shit
they changed it to 3 images instead of 4 
posting pics shouldn't be allowed for beginner "class", but idk how easy it is to level up
i'm also still beginner too lol
good luck in top 8 @cunning crown and @hollow lagoon btw ๐
maybe I should add a Z to my name..
and you could rename to just zilardfx
ZenrichedHippos
I hope so damn chinnit whales ๐
u gonna be Zippos?
Zippos works too
or Ztav
sounds rad lol
Zav
Zaft
lord zaft
it's clear the Z in the name is manifesting victory
right I'm past Tachy now Zanta
fun fight on hard
if that means i could get in top8 instead of Splirnok I'm renaming myself 
Zork
what do you mean by wasteland, you playing something?
yeah i have it on ps5 ๐
did you complete it?
gotta develop those assets
no, actually i started playing, but I thought I would buy an OLED tv cuz that's what this game deserves
that is true
in any case this game is hard as nails on hard mode start lol
it's not really designed for it, so the start is a bit rough
once you get a few bosses down it levels out a bit as you unlock stuff
yeah was pretty hard, i was also out of shape playing action games
and I never played soulslikes for example
hard mode start def puts it up there ๐
I rec just playing on normal if you're rusty
or not that souls vet type
it's super punishing on hard ๐
i can never understand those guys that beat bosses with lv1 character wearing only underwear ๐
these games are too hard
look how much damage I do to this boss on hard mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSMYdqJalC0
i started sb on full tank, now i run overdrive betachain into burst gen then burst spamm
Is that raven?
it's the midsummer alice skin on eve
Oh
the boss from the stellar blade event ๐
truly we have ascended
yeah I figure it was safish to post as it's literally the first boss you face
but look how little damage you do on hard ๐
Very certain Mari isn't the right pick now for SG team, I overestimated the impact of her AoE (which also is delayed in landing)
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yeah, btw it's the only boss i beat and i stopped the game exactly after this boss
play on normal when you play you'll have more fun that way imo - if you finish it you can opt to new game hard and suffer, or new game + hard and you carry over stuff
I only rec hard mode to those who can beat sekiro ๐
you play on pc?
yeah
on PC there are some crazy mods.. ๐
I'll be honest, as good as it sounds
I'm kind of cool with the base game as intended, sometimes less is more
I think naked eve would get a bit boring (don't kill me) ๐
nah I think the same
I actually like changing my outfit a lot, sometimes I'm in the fanservice ones, sometimes it's the other ones
I personally think these nude mods are funny if you are 15 years old or so
but when you are an adult it gets boring
you can run around as 2B from Nier as well with the DLC (I got the game with the skin for Scarlet and the DLC)
yeah i have both DLCs
I like the many outfits too, but tbh I like the original design a lot
I just change mine a lot as I run about keeps it fresh ๐
well, you now made me want to play it, i planned to play the ps5 anyway
๐
also nier automata and 2b as a character are one of my favorites
it's great I think, they actually made a good game that is more than just eve fanservice
i read there will be a sequel, and they said they will improve the story, but idk i thought the story was good anyway
bit cliche but servicable, not a bad story some plot holes in it
they did a good job with the various locations and the spirit of exploration was usually rewarded as well
like when I'm playing god of war, run about and find random stuff is pretty fun ๐
highly recommend sekiro as well btw fantastic game if you like the combat in SB
yep ๐
my friend also recommends it, but he said it's not a typical "starter souls game"
as it's one of the more difficult ones
I prefer the style the combat is more fast paced and parry based
other souls games are more about dodge and roll ๐
this is more 1 vs 1 duels with your skills and awareness in focus
he said it's kind of a "rhythmic game"
good skill curve and challenge without being super unfair, if I die (and I did a lot) then it's a skill issue I know I can solve it with effort
sure, you get into the flow of the combat and have to time your parries to the incoming attacks
but it's good I do like it ๐
I doesn't own it but will add it to my list, probably that or elden ring will be my first souls ๐
i'm not a newbie though when it comes to gaming, so i will get accustomed to the difficulty
as a kid i retried crash bandicoot levels countless times.. lol 
lol. Yeah i did too
so you know the pain, good 
Whats crahs bandicoot 
I'd say sekiro - fast paced parry combat
elden ring - more traditional focus on dodge/roll mechanics but cool fantasy vibe
sekiro is fixed diff
elden ring you can go grind levels
Woah
tbh i prefer nowadays the ones where are less grinding and rpg elements, like too many development options etc
so i will prob choose Sekiro
sekiro then maybe - it's designed and coded around that fixed diff being challenging yet rewarding
and you don't need to go grind really (I did a little for the skill points haha)
I like rpgs, played a lot with BG3 for example, or JRPGs, but sometimes i just prefer more action and less grinding when it's an action game
BG3 is great
guess the Tav name comes from there ๐
it does ๐
I even played BG2
You've never lost in PVP while I lost a token yesterday 
same 
Anyway, i think I will play stellar blade and if I finish before getting an OLED tv i will just replay it on hard if I have one
also rail how does it look for you in top 8?
i should've been ded at top16, i will probably be ded at top8
whos fault was that (Railtracer)
so you're not dead in top8 got it 
it's time for the disciples (me and hippo) to watch the teacher 
Well, getting stuck where I was actually allowed me to get Check stuck on C7 for a whole 24 hours so 
Redtracer really did help me
And strong Malogro padding
the training arc paying off?
He failed an attack once on me
So, he wasted both attacks immediately
watching 
haha no, honestly next one has to be a loss and if it isn't then it's really broken spaghetti 
3 counters is asking for a lot
believe in the disciples that believe in you rail
me last rd 
believe in the champion run SU has paved for you 

yes it was all for your sake
||i totally didn't take a chance to test your teams||
not my fault 
someone posted your teams and i had to help 
Believe! That It's finally your run. 
Railtracer can't help but help ๐
no i don't have emilia it's lost [c] Blood
testing if this pc recording works
@worldly osprey has no Emi and was 2 times champ in my bracket. 
Be better than him. 
no it goes against your logic, no emi no party
utter bricked can't win

