pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

if scar dies to ros then l wins

goodnight

[nimble swan]

crazy you will lose r4 bc he runs bisc and rumani in p5 in his scar team.
However in r5 you will likely kill Laplace, isn't she supposed to have the higher atk?
Then RH buffed RH might be a threat, depending on how strong is her

[shell hazel]

LapT is 88K cp I doubt she's a huge threat there

[fathom rock]

That bsoda gonna die in record times lmao

[nimble swan]

omg i didn't check, I assumed if somone builds lapTr she's OLd etc

[tropic summit]

slow cindy 4/0 this CA so far

(she's T5)

[shell hazel]

yeah, also jackal link prob, so won't die, so will be the b3

[nimble swan]

yeah right, then easy win

[shell hazel]

yeah I think I win 1/3/5 for those reasons

[nimble swan]

I believe r2 too, but we'll see tomorrow

[shell hazel]

2/4 I could clutch but they shouldn't matter

[fathom rock]

We all do but him

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock if you've a sub DPS in scar-jack they might still win even if scarlet dies

since scarlet eats up most of the SGs HP

it doesn't look like in your case although, which is why i'm thinking i'd rather bet on rosanna

as once that team loses scarlet, they've very little dmg output

[fathom rock]

Hmm but that doesnt help t1 outcome

[tropic summit]

what i'm saying is, in that case, i'd be voting for left over right

once scarlet is dead, right has no dmg output

[fathom rock]

3 sg die, soda stun them for extra time and Rosa exhausted from scar counter earlier, it's not impossible for 3 units to clear that 1 sbs is it

[tropic summit]

i don't think all SG will die, viper is guaranteed although

and viper will be enough to trigger rosa

then if rosa kills scarlet and 2 or 1 sg is left alive, they definitely have enough DPS to out-trade

[fathom rock]

Both viper and boda are goners here for sure

That soda has 0 invest

[tropic summit]

ye a safe assumption

[shell hazel]

I'd vote left on that one as well

[fathom rock]

I see

Thanks

[clear vessel]

I'll try. Wouldn't it be better for you to take C4 tho?

[keen vapor]

I'll do my own attempts to attack Check but long term (3-6 months) this will be the way

[tropic summit]

oooh it's finally happening, the matchup i wanted to test the most

double buff slow cindy nuke against nero moran with blanc debuff on 🍿

shame that my RH is gonna get nuked although, don't think she'll live even with temperance

[shell hazel]

is an interesting comp

[tropic summit]

cindy and blanc gonna have to deal with it alone

[shell hazel]

Believe in them

[tropic summit]

will be interesting regardless, blanc is directly countering moran at least

[fathom rock]

Rh over mihara be interesting
This is popcorn material I better get a ping please

[shell hazel]

alice looking a bit different today

[clear vessel]

Done

[keen vapor]

[clear vessel]

BTW, My T3 also dies. Unexpected tbh

[keen vapor]

he really did a monster of a comp

[tropic summit]

you gonna need to remove SG feed and make it into 2.5RL

else scarlet eats that for breakfast

there's also rosanna and siren

[tropic summit]

what's this monster comp like? bet it's just CP padded

[glad meteor]

🍿

Hope Cindy doesn’t die too fast. Happens in mihara comp. But that one is slower

[tropic summit]

rumani is on 20%CS

it's more of a 3.5-4RL

[glad meteor]

[fathom rock]

tf am i looking at

[tropic summit]

biscuit and her defender friends [c] tentative

[fathom rock]

This just looks nuke able af

[lofty shale]

Humbly requesting team building assistance, my pvp teams are about a year old and out of date (I have more units than what is in the screenshots, but they are all unsynced. I own most of the nikkepedia.)

My current teams

[nimble swan]

why is my RH having less HP than my SBS?
They both lb1 bond 20, having the same level of gear, and I have absolutely no idea when it flipped.
But I was successfully running SBS indom with jackal in the past and only noticed accidentally not long ago when I was unexpectedly losing in rookie. (was doing quick battle)

guess time to invest in RH's gear...

[glad meteor]

Remove cube and check hp. Or check nikkepedia to see if they have stat diff

[keen vapor]

It's not padded @tropic summit

[umbral belfry]

T1 ngl I'm not sure bc this can go many ways. if counter rng is good and rosa survives, left. if the opposite than right
T2 left
T3 right
T4 Leaning Right due to jackal bug but I'm also not sure bc idk who's linked on right outside of rei?
T5 right

why do you always get weird matches retro

actually I'd lean left a bit t4 bc I don't think right has enough feed

why didn't they just put jackal p1

[nimble swan]

Damn I messed up cubes after last CA settings

[silent grotto]

my teams arent strong enough anymore to beat this guy, what can i change and improve on

[umbral crown]

I will get mine to 13 next reset

[swift mango]

Retro wins surely.

I was right.

[glad meteor]

t3 win and t1/2 lose?

Looks like noise bay 2rl’d with feed and blocked cindy nuke

[silent grotto]

yes

[swift mango]

I got my endurance, Vigor to lv8, Endurance to lv7 instead. Much cheaper.

For 14 tanky slots.

A pleb's spending.

[glad meteor]

Hmm. 40 sync diff. Don’t know if emi will work against t1

[silent grotto]

yea we have been going back and forth for about a month now, and he as been constantly changing teams. But as of maybe last week he pumped some lvls, think there was a 15 lvl diff before

and after that i started to struggle but could still beat him until now

[swift mango]

My p5 Moran really counters SG lol...

[swift mango]

Doll and cube

[nimble swan]

Yeah I forgot that they both had identical SR15 dolls.
Idk why I didn't think first the problem must be me

[swift mango]

You didn't show pic so no one know but you. If not doll then it's obviously cube.

---

Can anyone spot 2 wrong things about this pic?

[placid bloom]

if Moran is stunned Rapu can revive Bay

I mean they have to kill Bay and then stun Moran after

[swift mango]

Yes I realized that. But he is max core every one. So Bay probably only killed if against SG.

@hollow lagoon This is the real whale.

[placid bloom]

what's the probability of Moran solo

[gritty ridge]

Chat i might be cooked

I can beat the number 1 rn but I cant beat 2nd, 3rd, or 4th

[swift mango]

@fathom rock Could you check if you got Nilhister frame before storm bringer? If not, how could this guy have it in this order?

[umbral crown]

12 at lv15

Or you mean the cubes you upgraded

[swift mango]

Yeah, lv8 has 5, lv7 has 4. 5*2+4=14

[umbral crown]

Nice

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry your profile caption

[gritty ridge]

Im thinking i helm nuke t3 and kill siren t2

[umbral crown]

Bigboi with vocaloid in profile

[gritty ridge]

Ive always been a fan of the miku

And the teto, also the yellow one

[covert lintel]

That's noob rosanna

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/akita-neru-yellow-one-wednesday-the-yellow-one-from-mesmerizer-whatever-vocaloid-gif-2813789103481908278

[covert lintel]

I bet she isn't equipped tempura

[umbral crown]

Is not the yellow rin and the another one luka?

[umbral crown]

How was your T1 fight with koy

Share the video if you can

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

How can your Rossanna not die to counter before your Noir got killed by Normal attack? (Not hitting Scarlet so no counter)

[gritty ridge]

Its miku, neru, and teto

[umbral crown]

[small hatch]

@worthy knoll

[swift mango]

But yeah, his Rossanna is bad. Blue doll.

[gritty ridge]

Fake miku fan smh

[umbral crown]

Feels good having some action again

[gritty ridge]

Doesnt even know triple baka

[umbral crown]

No u

[worthy knoll]

Post the record, but yeah I had a feeling bug SBS could win at 400 sync

[clear folio]

kuwon u hydra?

[swift mango]

Well, the future is bleak, but at least you got the CA champ once.

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

https://streamable.com/82wlr1
I can't send directly to discord

[umbral crown]

Will try to get it next seaskn

[glad meteor]

SBS x2 dmg in pvp now ?

[covert lintel]

Even blue doll

[placid bloom]

yeah

[swift mango]

I mean, you already max doll and skill everyone there is no improvement to CP after that but level. And you refuse to invest in Campaign team.

[umbral crown]

@lone sequoia

[umbral crown]

But still there are like 3 units to max doll before going to pve route

[worthy knoll]

Yeah even proc 1 is double, just not noticeable

[swift mango]

Well, at least you got Champ once. Should be another year or maybe even two before you no longer able to get to CA. Plenty of time I guess.

[glad meteor]

Has su even acknowledged the bug

[covert lintel]

when mine

[umbral crown]

We just need to.hope they keep the pve route, most of them not really invest in pvp, they have more levels but their cp not like its raising much

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

When that time comes, will ask.you for a talk with wallet kun

[covert lintel]

Tomorrow i'll lose to pogapple
But idk why many ppl cheer for me

[swift mango]

Well, she may deal more DMG sometime but against Nero, biscuit or Wipe it's still 0*2=0.

[small hatch]

I cannot post a screen recording or video for you, I'm sorry. Screencaps only. The fight wasn't close at all, I should've sticked with my gut feeling of SBS superiority. F*** this game.

[worthy knoll]

That still has some effect on the Biscuit part, Nero it could have some effect if its Blanc SBS, like Nero win Blanc SBS before but now coz of x2, they lose more now or something

On the Biscuit part, if it exactly hit the moment Noah is out of immune and before 2nd Biscuit S2, it might cost some upsets

[swift mango]

Doubt for Nero. As for the Biscuit probably nothing has changed.

2 hit to immune and 1 hit to immune isn't very different.

[fathom rock]

Did he not claim them in order

[swift mango]

Also, do you know if she bugged every single fight or just some?

[fathom rock]

But nah that's normal lmao

[swift mango]

So you could save the mail for a month and claim the later first?

[fathom rock]

Chicken profile

[worthy knoll]

It still could have some effect like, allies are at 40% hp, then Noah out of Biscuit S2 then SBS proc 3 exactly during that, since out of immunity Noah it deals damage to others, before they could still survive, but maybe coz of the x2, this time the allies could not, then it remained to Noah with 2nd Biscuit S2 without the other allies

[worthy knoll]

Every single fight, in pvp only.. she even has more gen now.. at least 1.25% more in her 2 and 2.5 RL value

[umbral crown]

All 2.5m are over 444 sync , nit a big deal, C3 463 but he just attacks me once a day in rookie. He knows gems are ready if anything

[swift mango]

He started like same time as Rail. This is nothing chicken. Probably deal more dmg on raid than your oldest account.

[fathom rock]

Chicken ain't a tryhard

[worthy knoll]

Tbf, SBS 2.5 RL value is actually her 2 RL value.. if using Nikke deck as basis, we just found out earlier, she hits 4 ammo as almost same time as a slow 2 RL. So her 2 RL value using 3 ammo is actually wrong

Then add +1.25% to it coz of the double proc, making her 2 RL value at 12.5%. More if with quantums, prolly 13%

[fathom rock]

I mean look he is literally at 93 cd/h
Instead of 102 cd/h

[fathom rock]

Anyway nice whel

[swift mango]

Look at his campaign. Hard enough for me.

[fathom rock]

Whel™ with 105cd/h

[swift mango]

1.25% more burst gen. Darn, quantum cube 4% OP now.

[swift mango]

Yeah, they don't have Arena investment. But at 40-60 level difference they could just auto 2 team to normal attack you.

[swift mango]

Thanks for the info about her dmg. Though.

[worthy knoll]

Making this team actually 2 RL instead of 2.5 or 3 as shown here, coz the 2 RL value is 99.11% + 1.25%

[swift mango]

Why 99.11 not 96.61? Anyway, good if someone actually use it.

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

Already mentioned it there

[swift mango]

I can guess she hits at 2.2rl or something so you could actually count it as 2rl. Also, if she had CS.

Still, that means no way for Noah to avoid Siren stun even with 25% CS on everyone.

[worthy knoll]

No, it hits exactly as a slow 2 RL, 2 RL realease quicker than SBS but on hitting P1, they are actually quicker than them

[swift mango]

[worthy knoll]

SBS release her 4th shot while 2 RL shot is travelling, and reaches P1 slightly quicker than them

So this is wrong

2 RL should be the 2.5 RL value

And +1.25% more coz of the extra proc of 3rd ammo shot S1

[swift mango]

Vid?

And your SBS CS?

[worthy knoll]

5% minimum pve req of SBS

[swift mango]

All I see is that Noise and Noah hit 2nd before SBS even fire her 4th

[pure moss]

top left atk right?

[worthy knoll]

Don't check the ammo, check when it hits P1

Coz SBS travel is instant

[swift mango]

I checked SBS ammo when Noise bullet hit.

[worthy knoll]

Well almost instant

Not Noise, check Noah Biscuit

Actually Biscuit, the slowest one

[umbral belfry]

it's not what you think ash

[worthy knoll]

Well if you don't believe not gonna push it, its up to you, I'm just sharing, if you don't want to accept then its fine

[swift mango]

Are you sure? Your Biscuit is 20% last time you flexed your Nero then Cindy team to me.

Was you lying then or now?

[worthy knoll]

I don't remember saying my Biscuit was 20

Only clips are mostly 20 and XAnne/Rapu/Quiry

Well Rumani and Anis is not

In the clips, but I seldom use them

Rumani is even for the slow Cindy one

[swift mango]

Okay, my bad then.

[pure moss]

@umbral belfry it looks like I'm winning?

but I have to cheer the other side for the frame

[swift mango]

Okay, your Biscuit has no CS and SBS can't be much faster, so no way Noah avoids Siren anyway.

[fathom rock]

I see a w/w/l/w/l if you the top guy

[worthy knoll]

Yeah exactly 2 RL will never be able to avoid Siren stun on their B2, so that team is really Siren prone

[pure moss]

I might take 3 and 5 as well depending on investment

might lose 4 tho

[fathom rock]

I see 4 shotguns hitting their centi and anis

Their burst speed slow down enough for rossana to catch up with 1 death I think

[worthy knoll]

Here is a much clearer pic, SBS ammo at 5, the red flash effect and SBS 4th shot damage cover about to appear depicted by green lines, while Biscuit RL smoke trail depicted by the red arrow

So you can actually just say that SBS 4th shot = 2nd RL shot

[fathom rock]

5 you only take if their invest sucks
I don't see a universe when you win 3 unless you somehow make them xmaid indom which would be hilarious

[pure moss]

we'll see. I'm gonna have power boost next CA too

[fathom rock]

Better ol?

[placid bloom]

team 2 is maybe losable if Ros one-shots SBS and BSoda burst is enough to kill Biscuit + XMaid but Idk how likely that is

[swift mango]

2 win

3 lose

The rest defending on investment.

[pure moss]

yes, investment

[fathom rock]

You Wanna assume boda lives and somehow oneshots xmaid?
Biscuit getting indom bruh

[umbral belfry]

t1 w
t2 w
t3 l
t4 likely w
t5 w

so yes

[swift mango]

Yeah, very similar timing. But consider 0 CS biscuit and 5% CS SBS. It still means your Noah is losing to Siren always.

[pure moss]

ty

[lone sequoia]

first time i see moran sniped in mirror at the same speed

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, that was the counter I recommended to Toiky, but it seems coz of that misinfo found on deck and the addition proc +1.25% gen above, many thought that 2 RL Scar was enough against it, like Noah won't be able to burst before Scar B3.. you can search the message trail above

[umbral belfry]

wait t5 might be a l, but wouldn't matter

[swift mango]

Idk YOUR investment but looking like rip mah boy.

[fathom rock]

I stand by my predictions

[pure moss]

I need to cheer the loser for the frame

I appreciate the opinions yall

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

You have a good chance to win you just betting on yourself winning.

[umbral crown]

Yeah, was not.expecting that

[placid bloom]

actually I've seen Blanc kill herself to double Scar counter so there is a chance he doesn't even indom

[umbral belfry]

kilia going for double champ

[pure moss]

doubt

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[pure moss]

next CA Imma put Poli p5

[umbral belfry]

just like me

[swift mango]

Could just @bleak shale

The betting god that got both frames since CA season 2.

[swift mango]

Thanks for the info, maybe I could use it somehow, or not.

[warm monolith]

Wholl win?

[swift mango]

You will win.

[warm monolith]

I didnt even get recruited 😦

All of the teams of the first guy is over 1 mil cp,my highest is 770k

[radiant coral]

Is Nero, Moran and helm combo an anti nuke team or something?

I know it’s a stall team but how effective is it in surviving

[hollow lagoon]

insane

[tropic summit]

why is that team giving you trouble, run indom equal speed s.anis or stall DPS on same speed (noah bis rh helmt jackal)

[lone sequoia]

@covert lintel does your moran have more atk than nero?

[fathom rock]

Invest check team, basically just stacking damage reduction to survive you can counter with damage taken debuff or just wiping it before burst

Or outstalling them

[lone sequoia]

from double taunt to DR team if you add helmT or a 2nd healer (+rapu) it can tank nukes that don't use blanc b2 or really high atk stats, the the critical point for that team is to reach 2.5RL speed to be able to burst with moran before the nuke of a b3 2RL team hit your units

[radiant coral]

What about a Trina boosted scarlet?

Can that be tanked?

[placid bloom]

Trina Scar cannot kill through Moran B1 if they are max invest

[radiant coral]

I also saw an example above saying that this team can tank cindy

[placid bloom]

Nero will have 100% damage reduction when Moran casts B1 and the rest of the team will be around 74%

[lone sequoia]

depends in cp (penalty) dupes (stats) and buff, scarlet+trina only and you can't wipe a good DR team unless you play CA (whales can get more stats from research lab)

[radiant coral]

So I’m guessing it’s hella good in CA

[radiant coral]

ah ok

Do I need to fully invest in both Nero and Moran or just Moran only

[glad meteor]

Need crit on rapu to win I think

[placid bloom]

everyone on that team needs to be SR15 and 10/10/10, it is one of the most expensive teams to build

[radiant coral]

Gotcha

[glad meteor]

I need to reset my nero

[placid bloom]

you also need high level tempering cube

[lone sequoia]

for a good DR team? nero S1 lv10+SR15, moran burst lv10 and the synergy change is when you have helm and rapu with more than 15cs to reach 2.5

[glad meteor]

I’m not pvp goon

[radiant coral]

So it’s not worth using at all if it’s not built

[placid bloom]

it is ass with low invest

[radiant coral]

Aight

[placid bloom]

low invest can even die to Scar bugged counter because Nero is SMG and Moran is AR

[lone sequoia]

stall teams need dupes

but they have a minimum invest to make them work

[radiant coral]

Hmm ok

[umbral belfry]

I'm still not done

[placid bloom]

slacker

[umbral belfry]

Basically almost5l though

[sinful berry]

Nope.
Nnnnnoooooope.
No thanks.

I see any of Biscuit, Jackal, Noah, Cindy on the team, im out

[glad meteor]

Bro is helm bursting

[sinful berry]

N O P E .

https://tenor.com/view/run-nope-anime-jump-off-tonari-no-kaibutsu-kun-gif-16948136

[shell hazel]

the next one has RH doing all 3 bursts 😄

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel Check hit back

[jagged mesa]

[umbral belfry]

[clear vessel]

Will hit just before reset.

[keen vapor]

XP better improves his defense or something

[umbral crown]

Mologro gonna hit you

[keen vapor]

He can't, he's above me

[steep oak]

Is Railtracer currently present by chance?

[clear vessel]

I don't wanna hit Echo, I just wanna tap him I would never

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[umbral crown]

Do it, i will allow it

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-i-summon-you-to-fulfill-your-oath-gif-15974785

[umbral crown]

Not yet we are dinning

[keen vapor]

Railtracer is no more only Redtracer remains

[shell hazel]

what do you need redtracer for?

[keen vapor]

[steep oak]

I visit typically every 6 months or so to get some updated advice on teams. He's been my go-to and has made me competitive in PvP. Many whales in my bracket. 😭

[keen vapor]

You wouldn't remember Redtracer after 6 months would you

[restive willow]

Jackal being doubled doesn't seem to be exclusive to pvp. You can test this by bringing Jackal alone in shooting range and counting how many hits received fill burst. Without quantum cube 150 hits and with quantum cube 140 hits.

[shell hazel]

spaghetti code confirmed

[keen vapor]

Quantum stocks sky rocketing

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor not gonna lie, that was a little too close for comfort. I almost missed reset

[keen vapor]

I think 1 hour before reset is safe against him tbh nice practice tho

[clear vessel]

Yeah that was too much.

[warm monolith]

Guys,wholl win?

Pls

[steep oak]

Is Yonexxi and Railtracer the same person? I am seeing Yonexxi assisted me with a team July of last year, lol.

[tropic summit]

what's up

no it's two different people, he's cooler

[steep oak]

Sir, if I may seek your guidance once.

[tropic summit]

sure post your box and ur current 3 teams

[steep oak]

I am still using your teams from a while ago, and many new characters have dropped.

Alright, one moment.

[umbral crown]

📦

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/boxes-stealing-getting-the-box-box-going-down-the-stares-gif-17296095

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

top wins

[steep oak]

Roster. Pretty much have everyone.

[lunar pawn]

if they're defending

[warm monolith]

Ok thanks

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/childe-tartag-zhongli-disappear-genshin-gif-23325506

[umbral crown]

Hope you are still in CA

[tropic summit]

for now ye

can't say for next season, the teaming chinnits are doing all the dirty plays in the book

[steep oak]

Current rookie team.

Current 3 team.

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

hmm yeah there's room for upgrades

[steep oak]

Excellent, thank you, sir.

[fathom rock]

@clear folio my attack time is from 11pm - 6am then 3pm - 11pm
He seem to be offline those times for me

[tropic summit]

you gonna need to raise CP on these first although, priority especially to trina, emilia and noise

jackal centi and scarlet right after

ping me again once those units are above or around s.anis level of invest

for skill lvls you can refer to prydwen, for dolls ensure at least SR5

for OL you should've 3 lines on each piece, lvl 0 OL is fine

aim for CS% on trina, emilia, jackal

emilia ideally some ammo and atk% for cherry on top

[fathom rock]

That's a step I couldve used a bit ago

[steep oak]

Understood, thank you.

[fathom rock]

How do I get myself into these ffs

[shell hazel]

wait.... 3pm - 11pm, and 11pm - 6am? so 3pm - 6am? 😄

you end and start again on the times at 11pm twice

[tropic summit]

2 or 3 whales per bracket is generally common

down the line especially with isekai starting to happen

and with ppl quitting

[umbral crown]

Waos, that does not sound good

[fathom rock]

Basically for me it's like sleep and awake time how I seperate it
For the most part if I oversleep he gonna hit me early

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit we cooking now

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

wow 12 - 13 is 2 more slots?

[umbral crown]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

And next 2 slots are at lv15

[shell hazel]

do you want to trade for my level 8 tempura?

[umbral crown]

2 more months to lv15 tempura

[shell hazel]

slow going here but I'll get there 🙂

[placid bloom]

12 and 14 are dead levels though, feels bad to spend 100 batteries just to get like a few hundred in base stats

[umbral crown]

We just looking dor extra slots

And some more ele

Now stall team has full tempura

[woven moat]

who will win between these 2 im trying for the win streak profile boarder

[fathom rock]

Share teams the redtraicer and yonexxi 2 very chill dudes will help you

[shell hazel]

I dunno how you think anyone can guess that without seeing the teams 😄

[tropic summit]

it's pretty clear that a team will win

[shell hazel]

a team must win

two teams enter, one team leaves

[placid bloom]

just guess, that's what the game tells you to do

[woven moat]

how do i fuse pictures so i dont go over the 4 limit?

[placid bloom]

paint

[tropic summit]

paint, gimp, ps

you can also use canva online if you want to

[shell hazel]

or just paste 4 pics then another post with 4 more, but I tend to use paint

[placid bloom]

when we getting AI optical scanner to scan in the teams

[fathom rock]

I use my built in phone editor any software should get the job done
Or post 10 imgs in dms and forward the msg here

yes this works

[shell hazel]

trina 7/10/10 now

[fathom rock]

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

ammo bricked scarlet 🧱

[fathom rock]

Rhb1p1 strat
This isn't mine btw

[placid bloom]

it's fine, RH eating stun

new tech

[lone sequoia]

that only work for people with bad units

[placid bloom]

until opponent not on Mermaid

[lone sequoia]

imagine b1~b3 rh p1

[fathom rock]

Why you only do this while attacking lmao

[glad meteor]

I tried that once but with scalter instead. My rh b2 instead

[placid bloom]

guess you too fast for Mermaid

[lone sequoia]

liter is easiest answer

[fathom rock]

If liter, centi links.

[placid bloom]

Liter linkers

[glacial kite]

Need a good lineup for special arena as I'm still getting used to it.

[woven moat]

ok yeah i gave up on paint so i'll send pictures in 4's these are Cookie's team:

[placid bloom]

reverse order

[fathom rock]

Send all 10 in dms and forward msg here

[vapid lake]

Shiftup update CA ui so we can see all 10 teams when?

[woven moat]

and this is tsk's teams:

[fathom rock]

Ok guys do I make those into 1 img or no need?

[lone sequoia]

retro asked for d|ck picks

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

I could do it

[placid bloom]

is that what you're into

[shell hazel]

damn these images kind of blurry haha

[lone sequoia]

too expensive for a "beta" they can fix it in 2 years more

[woven moat]

i think it was cause of the speed at which i took the images rather than letting it reset 1 sec after each pic x.x

[drowsy bridge]

Having trouble picking a side for this match up. I’m leaning into Auusie winning

[shell hazel]

let me merge em quick

[vapid lake]

Nah mate i'd reckon the aussie loses

[fathom rock]

I messed up

[tropic summit]

who else do you've out of synchro?

[vapid lake]

My new bracket has a lot of movement but i'm being ignored, everyone else around me is moving

[glacial kite]

That's all I have for SSR I'll post the rest

[vapid lake]

Now i just pray nobody notices me for the next 3 months

[lone sequoia]

hard to tell, xmaiden bugged for double s1 proc and moran will skip biscuit S2, a early proc and you moran will only have like7sec of biscuit S2 against10 indo sbs; sbs s1 1st proc can kill biscuit before the 2nd s2 proc because she is also* bugged

[drowsy bridge]

Because of SBS and blanc slow burst gen or biscuit and Moran keeping the other team alive?

[shell hazel]

imperfect but tsk on left and other guy on right

[lone sequoia]

the normal result should be a win for sanis team, but who knows...

[vapid lake]

90% of the time sbs into defender+biscuit is an auto lose

But i hadn't considered the fact that pvp is a buggy mess rn too so some things are not working properly

[tropic summit]

naga anchorim cindy rouge centi
bsoda drake doros dolla pepper
auto

put rumani in synchro, later on when you done with campaign and kraken team you can use her for a 3rd team
wishlist biscuit, jackal, noah, scarlet, sbs, trina
get helm treasured asap

[quiet merlin]

sbs-blanc-rosanna-helmT-jackal
how do i beat tis?

[glacial kite]

Will do and thank you

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet if that's a 3RL, if it's a 2.5RL the story changes tho

[lone sequoia]

jackal

[glacial kite]

No jackal? I have her

[lone sequoia]

just noah+biscuit and defender/supporter b3 or 1 attacker as bait

[drowsy bridge]

I appreciate the info! Thank you

[tropic summit]

you can run this, ur team on the left, give helmt temperance as extra assurance, but noise should be enough to prevent 1hitko

[drowsy bridge]

What’s the opinion on this lineup? Haven’t trouble figuring out if Noah or Biscuit may save the team before scarlet nukes

[tropic summit]

you can put jackal instead of pepper

[thin abyss]

I was checking nikke deck, does this value take into account Emilia's skill 1? Or do I need 4 black lines of charge speed

[glacial kite]

Okay cool

[shell hazel]

it's with her skill but also the deck just seems wrong for emi

[lone sequoia]

attacker=top/left? scarlet team should win if sanis hit p1

[shell hazel]

@woven moat I can't say for sure, I think it's L/L/R/R/? but can depend on how Soda stun goes, some rng there

[tropic summit]

double buff scarlet 2RL against 3RL (or at best 2.5RL) should be lethal regardless, it's likely right team win

[drowsy bridge]

That’s what I thought also. Thanks all

[woven moat]

so its still 50/50 last time i scanned over teams like this i thought the side with purple anis lost but they won

[shell hazel]

the stall on team 3 isn't that invested

look at the cp and dolls for nero and moran

[quiet merlin]

ty, worked beautifully

[shell hazel]

soda rng can mess things up though, and that kind of cuts both ways

[lone sequoia]

scarlet will nuke before moran burst, no cp=no 2.5RL

[placid bloom]

well Soda only 40% success rate to hit Blanc

[lone sequoia]

but good value on rapu...

[tropic summit]

probably a right win

[lone sequoia]

emi team should win; double proc xmaiden, rh/emi and probably a hit with rh b1

[thin abyss]

Are the calculators in Excel more reliable?

[tropic summit]

any works fine, use w/e you comfy with

[placid bloom]

maybe his Scarlet strong enough to solo Blanc with double counter too, that is unknown factor

[woven moat]

my brain hurts here too many stuff to keep track of x.x

[fathom rock]

Guys I have the img yall probably alre8gave him answer

[lone sequoia]

probably, but i don't know if rumani have ele to make it easier

[tropic summit]

yes i did

[placid bloom]

Blanc just feels so unsafe now, it's RNG whether she will live to burst if no Biscuit

[fathom rock]

Just need a pvp without bugs

[lone sequoia]

makima is just better

[tropic summit]

SR15 temperance blanc seems to be fine on 2RL, not sure on 3RL though

[vapid lake]

Where ur tempura lv 10 ?

[woven moat]

just to be sure the red x's means wins not losses right? cause then i'll just vote tsk then since they are the one on the left

[steep oak]

Done. Skills leveled, CP padded. Dolls to 5 minimum. All very close to S.Anis level.

[tropic summit]

those with a mark are the teams that lose

[fathom rock]

My helm got 1 tapped by scarlet counter without deficit

[woven moat]

OH OK so cookie wins alright ty

[tropic summit]

ok post your updated box then

[shell hazel]

what I mean is that it says a team is 2RL that nikke.work disagrees with

[fathom rock]

Was during fb tho

[lone sequoia]

CA?

[placid bloom]

time to build 50 Atk/100 ele Scarlet

[fathom rock]

Spa

[umbral belfry]

I was wondering why you had t3 stall losing but then I looked at the nero and moran cp

[shell hazel]

let me find the team one mo

[umbral belfry]

rapu but baby nero and moran

[tropic summit]

blue doll copium galore

lots of hope and prayers in that one

[umbral belfry]

shoulda fed what he's been feeding his rapu to those two

[fathom rock]

My global proudly held for 2h with stalking for attack timings
Ch10 that is

[placid bloom]

Rapu was fulfilling his fantasies so he had to invest her

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Rapu is a his

Hmm

[shell hazel]

point here is that this team can't hit 2RL according to nikke.work but nikke deck says it's absolutely 2RL so one of them is wrong

[lone sequoia]

26% cs emi and 0cs RLs?

[shell hazel]

it doesn't matter look at when the shots come in

only emi is later than 2RL

[lone sequoia]

just enough burst gen with laplace/centi

[shell hazel]

LapT, Centi, and Rapu fire 2RL before 2RL

[steep oak]

Jackal and Emilia are CP padded, skills the right levels, rolled on lines, etc. Not sure how else I can raise them.

[shell hazel]

Emi is later than 2RL but nikke.deck says it's 100% 2RL, they can't both be right

[lone sequoia]

i only use kosmiu/gatrix doc

[tropic summit]

what's your quantum cube lvl btw?

[steep oak]

Low I suppose

7

[tropic summit]

that's good enough

probably last question, do you've rumani down there?

[steep oak]

I have her, but not built at all. Used most resources to build Trina so running a bit low

[tropic summit]

ok build her once you can as she can improve another team

we can use what you've atm for an upgrade anyway

[steep oak]

Will do.

[umbral belfry]

checking in here and the first thing I read is "when the shots come in"

[shell hazel]

emi alone, it's clear something isn't right

[placid bloom]

Someone give her a kiss to cleanse her mind

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

deck says high CS emi can do 37.8% burst in 2RL, nikke.work says the 3rd hit doesn't land until 170F when 2RL is 152F

[lone sequoia]

frames(?)

the 28%cs emi for slower teams?

[shell hazel]

deck doesn't usually say you can do 2RL unless you can

[tropic summit]

jackal siren scarlet trina laplaceT
noise pepper s.anis helmt noah
blanc emi rh biscuit centi

quantum on jackal, laplacet, trina
vigor on noise, biscuit, blanc, emilia
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst at least lvl 9, no ammo OL
rest run w/e high lvl cube available

replace pepper with rumani once she's ready
rest just try to get 4OL pieces with 3 lines, SR15
you can aim for CS% on helmt, jackal, trina, centi, emilia

[shell hazel]

I gave emi 20% CS and 2 % adjutant

[lone sequoia]

S1 diff?

[shell hazel]

so 22%, a relatively unreliastic figure for most to have unless they playing a while

apparently S1 is accounted for in work site

but I can't see that confirmed as such

you can't configure it

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cute-lewd-gif-13929312

[shell hazel]

either way there is a discrepancy, luckily I don't have Emi so not a big deal, just an issue for those trusting the deck or work sites to be accurate 😛

[lone sequoia]

a bad copy/paste from the nikke deck guy

[steep oak]

Thank you so much. I genuionely appreciate your time. Lastly, can I bug you for advice on my rookie team?

[tropic summit]

bah this is probably evil enough

keep in mind if you use it on rookie, they'll use it against you

[shell hazel]

I mentioned it but they didn't seem to care 😄

[steep oak]

I appreciate your assistance. I'll get to work on Rumani next. Thank you, and take care!

[worthy knoll]

Ahh that is normal, not bugged coz gen from boss is innately x2

[vapid lake]

Ok i go try this

[restive willow]

Nah, test it in the 3 min shooting range, not boss

And iirc, burst gen to boss is doubled, but a boss hit still counts as 1 hit

[lone sequoia]

core hit?

[restive willow]

Core hit doesn't give extra burst gen

[worthy knoll]

Yeah but 10 procs still getting that double gen, I was already corrected by that before, we did that testing, I was told it was just the double gen bonus of boss so it was normal

[restive willow]

Jackal s1 targeting boss into double burst gen?

Or I guess elite

[worthy knoll]

Most likely both

[restive willow]

I stand corrected. Sounds about right

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-dark-side-palpatine-sith-gif-14304484953492859842

[worthy knoll]

The double proc bugs only weirdly affect pvp

[vapid lake]

dw if my opponent use this against me i know how to beat it. (I think)

It's only rookie

[tropic summit]

mirror but with DPS B3 and possibly s.anis or RH

[wise horizon]

can i get some help on this? I couldnt beat this guy

[tropic summit]

that's 2.5RL on cindy team

it denies scarlet 1hitko and still allows them to burst

you'll need to change approach

do you've any unit with CS%?

[lone sequoia]

emi bracket, there is your trigger

[worthy knoll]

I was backtracking posts then I found this, I guess Drake Treasure didn't make it good for SAnis team in the end

[wise horizon]

not really. most like emilia have around 4%

[tropic summit]

do you've rosanna built?

[wise horizon]

its on my list to do but not at the momen

[restive willow]

Looking forward to Vesti to see if she can murder 2RL scarlet

[tropic summit]

what's your quantum cube lvl

[wise horizon]

lvl 7

[lone sequoia]

vesti/emi combo

[wind kelp]

I actually remembered! Here ya go. They're 10000% not perfect, or even good in a sense, but they work for my bracket and the opponents who keep poking me it seems :p 10/10 would not recommend

[fathom rock]

I can deal with the high cps
Ill attempt a wierd def setup

[tropic summit]

run these 3 teams next time

you're on the left

T2 is throw away, T1 and T3 are looking to win

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit I'm balling

They suck but if they work we don't care

[tropic summit]

good luck good sir

it should confuse a few monkeys at least

[shell hazel]

oh god

[fathom rock]

So basically most of the bracket

[shell hazel]

what have you done retro 😄

[fathom rock]

I have hmmed the biggest hmmm

I think those teams are the ultimate counter to the pepega whales in ch10-7 range

Maybe i should sdoro p1?

Nah she die too fast

This is confusing even for me

[lone sequoia]

xmaiden for more bugged units(?

[fathom rock]

Xmaid puts me in cp gap range, no can do

[lone sequoia]

ff

[fathom rock]

They all pushing like 950k avg cp

[tropic summit]

xmaiden s.anis jackal procs are bugged

merry posted the whole list before

[fathom rock]

I can try sanis indom actually
But I'm testing this first

[tropic summit]

it hits like a truck now, but opponent can do the same

[wise horizon]

my quantum cubes are currently on rumani, jackal, laplaceT, centi. needs to change?

[tropic summit]

no quantum are needed for the teams above, although you can keep them on the batteries in scarlet team

[fathom rock]

But I can indom

[vapid lake]

Trina s2 ? So she give scar 180% atk?

[fathom rock]

Anyway I'm accepting pvp bricks till 2026 so I'll go ham

[tropic summit]

btw record ur match again if possible, gives good info if something still won't work

[umbral belfry]

SU seeing the pvp bugs but doing nothing like

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

SU: wait, we've a pvp mode? oh right we do

[fathom rock]

It makes me actually get 2.4k against my monkey bracket

[umbral belfry]

I fear many people will be screwed this ca

[fathom rock]

In global

[fathom rock]

It's in beta so they have an excuse

[lone sequoia]

CA "beta", sp "beta", nikke "beta"

[umbral belfry]

beta until eos

[lone sequoia]

they will fix them when the beta ends (?)

[fathom rock]

Okay my watch tells me gog and gta6 Will be out before that

[lone sequoia]

beta for a reason, like early access for 10 years

[fathom rock]

@clear folio imma crash out

[vapid lake]

never fails to put a smile on my face watching ein defeat scarlet

[shell hazel]

mirror indom matches but also I think defender side is a bit slower? xmaiden vs centi burst gen

in indom, the slightly slower one usually wins

wait a second

[wind kelp]

looks at own teams
looks at @fathom rock cooking

I like this commander

[fathom rock]

Trust me I'm only doing that cuz I already tried every sane team variations I've got and they failed

Ask railtracer
He knows about it too well

I had him help me for like 1-2 months in understanding this bracket

[umbral belfry]

just like my cursor

[fathom rock]

Now he advice me to quit pvp on that acc

[tropic summit]

well that's sad

[wind kelp]

Like you said and i like to say "If it gets the job done, it's gold!" 😄 Have to shake up the samesies so folks don't copy paste counters.

[shell hazel]

surely the greatest shuffle of all times

[tropic summit]

the solution to all problems

[vapid lake]

Hoard boxes until jan and hope for the best maybe jan reshuffle gets rid of all the whales

[fathom rock]

I feel like campaign progress affects the reshuffle but it's a theory

[rose oracle]

Retro, please tell me that once someone is added to a pvp bracket, that they can be taken out after reshuffle

[tropic summit]

yes, utter cancerous bracket, one of the worsts i've seen

[vapid lake]

When u gain a massive amount of levels from 92 -> 102 jump

[fathom rock]

They can doesnt mean they will

[shell hazel]

it was me and topyro just chilling at 1 and 2 for ages in my SPA then new whales come in and now topyro is 4 🙁

[umbral belfry]

||me if i'm not c1 for 5 seconds|| this is a joke pls don't take this seriously

[vapid lake]

I have a feeling they deliberately shifted the people who qualify for CA around on the last shuffle to force them to fight each other in the brackets so new people can show up in CA

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-changing-the-clock-changing-the-time-kitty-cat-cute-gif-17202806

[lone sequoia]

sub-server range, bracket A-B-C, if someone quit you or someone near you will get in a older bracket

[fathom rock]

I'm getting sync 501s joining me (I'm 437)

[shell hazel]

wouldn't surprise me at all if they used CA to decide what to shuffle a bit

[wind kelp]

I've spent the last days trying all 4 people above me, without asking here for counter teams that is ofc, and they just nuke me before i can burst with 20 rocket launchers. Is what is though, i'm just happy to be in top 10.

[lone sequoia]

check your sub-server number and their

[fathom rock]

How to check theirs

[lone sequoia]

profile

for older accounts the range is like 10~20, for new accounts should be higher

[wise horizon]

heres the result

[fathom rock]

Will do when I'm on

[shell hazel]

are you at cp deficit?

[wise horizon]

no CP deficit

[rose oracle]

I don't want these apes in my pvp bracket , I'm going to crash out if they aren't gone by next reshuffle

[fathom rock]

Thank god 4th place took my pos otherwise I would be considered an ape

[vapid lake]

Ape

[fathom rock]

no bulli

[rose oracle]

your the only non ape in the top 10

[fathom rock]

Mr mcducks is a real one too

[rose oracle]

who?

[fathom rock]

The guy in mc duck union
He 7th?

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio ape

[rose oracle]

I see, so he's a pvp main

[fathom rock]

No bulli

[clear folio]

who u calling ape peasant??

[umbral belfry]

good thing my bracket is nice and cozy

ace

[tropic summit]

so emi lacked damage, helmt still 1hitko with noise and temperance? as for the first team, opponent makes it in time with blanc because she won't die to s2 within 2RL

gotta change approach again i guess

[rose oracle]

I don't want a whale in my arena, not to be mean about it

[lone sequoia]

server 10509

[fathom rock]

I'm 10507 that's na

[clear folio]

sounds like a YOU problem

[umbral belfry]

maybe rng will bless you and you'll be isekai'd into an easier sp next shuffle

[warm monolith]

@fathom rock its 1 a.m. ,go to sleep you need to get your rest

[lone sequoia]

he is in your range

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[rose oracle]

I'm f2p

[shell hazel]

me too

[umbral belfry]

same

[wise horizon]

noise has vigor cube. emilia burst can be risen to 10. just realised her burst is at 7

[dense kindle]

Hi Hime

How’s campaign going

[tropic summit]

did helm run temperance?

[placid bloom]

you wouldn't know by looking at my account but actually I am one of the top spenders in the world

[clear folio]

jk have fun!

[fathom rock]

My global is matched with peeps 15 subservers apart

[wise horizon]

vigor cube

[umbral belfry]

I hit 381 last night before bed i'm gonna try to push again tonight or next week

[shell hazel]

the f2p life 🙂

[umbral belfry]

[rose oracle]

Retro , how do I pvp? I want more gems

[shell hazel]

Hime I'm at 30-6 come catch me up, lock in etc

[fathom rock]

Start over you're sync bricc

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

yeah, higher range for new accounts, many people with rerolls or alt that quit, more movements

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-yes-gif-21160558

[dense kindle]

Did you need the levels for PvP or was it just to push. I’m trying to hold out as long as I can

[fathom rock]

Okay but why the 60 sync diff-

[lone sequoia]

whales

[umbral belfry]

don't really need it for pvp, it was mostly for pushing

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit trina centi rh
skip
noise jackal sbs helmt bay

cubes:

helmt and SBS temperance
biscuit and noise vigor
rh resil/bastion
jackal, noah, trina, centi quantum lvl 7 to hit 2RL threshold

[umbral belfry]

i mean the levels are nice in pvp obvs but

[fathom rock]

More importantly why are the 501s in ch10-6 and from 5-2 are peeps with less cp than me and level, and 1st is biggest ehel

Tf is wrong here

[dense kindle]

No competition huh?

[rose oracle]

man I can't I win against these people with lower syncs

[fathom rock]

This guy is 2nd
He didn't even beat normal camp

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

is he in your bracket?

[dense kindle]

Must be nice, can I join your bracket

[umbral belfry]

my main competition last sp was @wet crystal but i'm more pvp based than he is and folian eats core dust like candy now i am bc i got booted out of the bracket

[umbral belfry]

yeah cmere jsasor

[shell hazel]

Hime can I join your bracket?

[umbral belfry]

i'll bodyguard you for easy entrance into ca

[fathom rock]

Yes I am 18670 and this is 1 of the only fair competition I get there

[dense kindle]

No bully I just hide c4 or c3

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

How is he 2nd tho i need to know

He is union brick
Campaign brick

[lone sequoia]

for reshuffle or cp?

many whales just buy lvls, they will push campaign at some point

[hollow lagoon]

Wat about me

[fathom rock]

This guy been with me over a year now he actually union brick

[dense kindle]

I wouldn’t mind getting into Retros bracket either

[vapid lake]

maybe he is like me nobody notice him, stand perfectly still in #2 and nobody see him
the rest fight for #1 and #3 spot

[wet crystal]

[lone sequoia]

the rank for reshuffle depends in your last rank prior the bracket change (current rank, not the rewards rank)

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Honestly you're easier than the shit I deal with

[umbral belfry]

folian stop using the rare candy cheat

[lone sequoia]

i also got target by some guys

[vapid lake]

Heard that? U're weak

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna be with ace

[fathom rock]

When ca first came out he drop 3k gem on me overnight

[placid bloom]

[vapid lake]

Maybe that's why nobody want to hit him he's the lunatic that spend 9k gems to secure 3k gems

[lone sequoia]

the reminds me...

[vapid lake]

Whatever makes him happy

[fathom rock]

What's that supposed to mean 😭

[vapid lake]

U said he's easy

[dense kindle]

Oh wait isn’t he a 3 time winner .

[vapid lake]

[fathom rock]

He is easier than a 60 sync gapping c7 owning behemoth of a player

[umbral belfry]

yes hf in that sp bracket jsasor

[lone sequoia]

@leaden canyon what is your server and union?

[umbral belfry]

i'd be happy just having a shiny little star on my frame ace doesn't wanna share

[fathom rock]

Jsasor was just commenting on how I had to face moran nero like a normal daily task in rookie earlier

I'd be stoked to have him with me

[dense kindle]

Shiny star on the way

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Actually what your subserver number J

[dense kindle]

Uh lemme check

[fathom rock]

We shouldn't be within range, you start before me surely

[umbral belfry]

jsasor has sanis if i remember right

we can never match with him

[fathom rock]

He what

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

i think more people got emi diff than sanis

[fathom rock]

If you are emi diffed it's entirely your fault

[umbral belfry]

anyone got a spare emi they don't need

[fathom rock]

I do

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

My global acc is record breaking brick

[dense kindle]

Wait where do I find this number again

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit

[lone sequoia]

profile

[fathom rock]

Profile or ark rankings

[dense kindle]

The one on the right?

[umbral belfry]

yes 😭

[lone sequoia]

10253

[fathom rock]

Yea I see we aren't even close

[umbral belfry]

we will never see jsasor in pvp

[fathom rock]

I'm 10507 on na

[umbral belfry]

only in campaign lists

[dense kindle]

Maybe if I self brick enough

[lone sequoia]

probably in +2 years... or if people quit faster

[fathom rock]

Nooo

[umbral belfry]

quick everyone quit

[fathom rock]

Butfood for thought

How tf are we both same camp prog-

Well you higher by 1 dust

[dense kindle]

Idk what you’re talking about

[vapid lake]

You not normal

[umbral belfry]

we can't compare to your 100% pve malding retro

[fathom rock]

He can he is a malder aswell

[umbral belfry]

and on mobile? no sir

[fathom rock]

He is visible on lowest clear leaderboard he has 60fps too

[dense kindle]

I only started malding cause you were catching up to me

[umbral belfry]

i do see jsasor often in the leaderboards

[fathom rock]

Lies you were there all the way back in ch23h

[umbral belfry]

i'm slacking off it's time i evolve into a true pvp goon

[fathom rock]

I wonder who in ch26h on n'a will get to see me be the absolute lowest for a few stages straight

[umbral belfry]

and now that folian poofed from my sp i have no incentive to go hard

folian come back

[dense kindle]

Hime is your friends list full so I can stalk your campaign progress like I do retro

[umbral belfry]

it is but i can delete someone

[fathom rock]

Hey what tower me at am i lacking

[dense kindle]

350

[fathom rock]

:caught:

[wise horizon]

T1 lost but T3 won.

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindlefeel free to send friend request. i deleted someone

[tropic summit]

last SBS aoe wiped you

[umbral belfry]

just don't look at my profile msg

[tropic summit]

just get rosanna built i'd say, this is an headache as we're playing with our hands tied

7/10/10 SR5 20-40atk%

[dense kindle]

A little too late for that one

[umbral belfry]

😭

[dense kindle]

Poor Arcana

[umbral belfry]

ahead of me in tower too now i gotta lock in

[lone sequoia]

no blanc biscuit?

[wild drum]

Yup

[lone sequoia]

probably ammo problem with blanc...

[wild drum]

Where leme seee

[dense kindle]

Okay now for actual pvp talk what’s going on with this bug with SAnis?

I’m out of the loop

[tropic summit]

dunno if you've other ideas go ahead, he has no CS% and no rosanna, opponent T2 is 2.5RL, probably could try with s.anis approach but getting rosanna built would solve both his immediate issue and his medium/long term options

[glad meteor]

Can maybe try slower 3-4rl noah biscuit with cindy and rapu and tankier team

[tropic summit]

on T1?

[fathom rock]

Now i have to lock in too to beat ya both

[fathom rock]

Double proc

[clear folio]

Feast your eyessss

[umbral belfry]

aint no way

[dense kindle]

I see I see so double the rockets

[coarse solstice]

Photo shopped

[tropic summit]

you thinking of this?

[glad meteor]

Yeah, 2rl noah biscuit loses invincibility faster

[umbral belfry]

yeah tell em ura

[glad meteor]

Cindy has decoy

[tropic summit]

well yeah he only needs to block the very last SBS aoe

what team would that be?

[umbral belfry]

jsasor gonna bug abuse to victory

[glad meteor]

Noah naga biscuit rapunzel cindy maybe but idk if should go 3rl instead

Or moran instead of rapu?

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry oi , ||understandable although||

[glad meteor]

But rapu heal bug is good

But moran counters damage reduction

[scarlet adder]

p1 p2 will die before burst?

and is rosanna doing anything here except for taking jackal dmg share that i should worry about? ( i know different order because of SG i know)

[coarse solstice]

When did this happen? Grats dude.

[wise horizon]

i think i have enough materials to go for Rosanna 7/10/10 SR5 20-40atk%. if i do, i assume it makes it a lot easier to beat this team and can change defense too

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom What'd I do 😭

[umbral belfry]

dude's getting jumped 😭

[covert lintel]

I think nero was higher @lone sequoia

[placid bloom]

Idk

[lone sequoia]

weird that a double moran snipe happened in the mirror

wait

xmaiden buff for electric units

i know that the moran in the bay team have more atk than nero and got sniped, for xmaiden team was her buff

[acoustic light]

I havent even attacked either of them

Im friendly

[umbral belfry]

you must protect your spot

[glad meteor]

605 sync

[covert lintel]

Oh right maybe this

[raven plover]

I told you you gonna win

[lone sequoia]

you will need more DEF on those units, and proably a bit more atk in nero to avoid a moran snipe

also crit/ele is good for moran*

[worthy sorrel]

@short moon I got sniped before we got to match up! you gotta make our SP proud

gl on the next matches

[placid bloom]

@acoustic light hmm I did manage to get Caius before reset and I thought he would stop after his two daily hits but it seems like he's willing to gem to hold his spot

time to hibernate

[arctic prawn]

are there any good PVP channels or guides that I can use to create my own PVP team?

[lone sequoia]

check pins

[charred wedge]

idk how tf its been 2 days and nobody under me can take me down. Any weaknesses? i know my placements may be trash but how can i rework them.(This is the same group i have in defense😭 )

[covert lintel]

I thought his bay could survive and block my xmaid burst

[acoustic light]

oh really didn't seem like he would care too much about CA

[lone sequoia]

what is your helm OL?

[lone sequoia]

ty

[covert lintel]

1 step away to become 25% helm

[lone sequoia]

i will have to waste like 200 rocks to get cs on my helm

no luck rerolling first lines

[tropic summit]

ye she works for both attack and defense

makes also easy work of emilia or helmt, can work also on attackers especially if they're already lowered in HP via splash or directly

[tropic summit]

a few days ago not too long ago for sure, thanks

[short moon]

wdym i lost lol

mirror match

[radiant coral]

10 gorgillion rocks put into that

[radiant coral]

I’m guessing people below you don’t have their pvp units built or they have low combat power compared to yours

[charred wedge]

Most likely my friend

[radiant coral]

As for weaknesses, yeah I can see something, but not all defense teams are perfect so there’s really not much you can do about it, just keep building pvp characters

[wise horizon]

It’s done. 7 10 10 Rosanna SR5 doll and 22% attack

[charred wedge]

any others i should start building from whats seen there

[radiant coral]

I’d probably suggest getting units that can give you burst charge or units that gives your survivability

[charred wedge]

i think i may have nothing for 3rd team as it loses

[radiant coral]

Biscuit

She’s pretty good for PvP since she provides immunity for your defensive units

You would pair her with a defense unit placed in P1 for defense

Blanc is pretty popular too since she does damage boosts and immortality to your lowest HP unit, usually your DPS

[charred wedge]

what do your teams looks like that way i can get an idea.

noah and jackal are the most used

[radiant coral]

Let me log in rq

I’ve been switching up my teams a lot against whales in my SP arena so the combination isn’t perfect

Wait this is my attack team hold on

@charred wedge

Ok yeah here’s my defense team, I use Blanc and biscuit for survivability

[gentle mason]

Quick question, who should SBS replace on this list?

[crystal flicker]

Rapipi

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

Not passing CA has make me more chill with pvp ngl

[gentle mason]

Okay

[raven plover]

@covert lintel wtf fahrenheit investing on pvp now, maybe cus he lost on top 64 last season

[covert lintel]

his overall cp increased

200k scar wth

My team can counter fahren
But before that i'll lose against pogapple

[keen vapor]

You mean yours isn't?

[crystal flicker]

200K just over cp tho

[minor pier]

hello, i was wondering what are the 3 best defender teams & attacker teams i can build for SP arena pls?
i have everything except absolute:

2 giga teams to defend 1 for CP filler

[keen vapor]

Have you checked pins?

[crystal flicker]

1.5RL Scarlet, 1.5RL Cindy, 2RL Blanc Emi

[gritty ridge]

Isnt sync kinda low for having csm units?

[crystal flicker]

I was joking tho, those comp indeed best of the best, but you need 25% CS on ALL RLs

[keen vapor]

Indeed

I have 3 levels more (with +23 on stock) while starting a year after

[minor pier]

;~; whats the best without cs?

[keen vapor]

Wym, bug allows those speeds

[gritty ridge]

1 rl scar

[keen vapor]

Weak nuke

[gritty ridge]

Its just scar jack trina

[crystal flicker]

same comp, but 2RL

and stall

[minor pier]

like this?

[crystal flicker]

Where Emi

[minor pier]

oh ill add her

[gritty ridge]

Imagine how fast this is with jackal bug

[crystal flicker]

This my fav

No CS, but better with CS

[gritty ridge]

That scar team is kinda sus

[minor pier]

ok ill give helm to cindy, and emi to blanc

[crystal flicker]

He can move Jackal to P2

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, t1 and 3 are beat by sniper execution and siren respectively

[crystal flicker]

No, Noise taunt Siren

[gritty ridge]

I meant 3 my b

Unless emi is weird and has target skip

[crystal flicker]

Indom will make Emi survive long enough to burst

[gritty ridge]

2rl scar siren?

[crystal flicker]

Wdym sniper tho

Though I still prefer Soda to counter both Noise Noah

[gritty ridge]

Ah siren stun, no rh b1 but jackal p1

[covert lintel]

Gimme 7 scar's spare body

[gritty ridge]

Rhyme master

[minor pier]

are these 3 high quality defender enough?

[gritty ridge]

Dont hmmz me, I realized my mistake

[raven plover]

he sr15 makima even

[gritty ridge]

Did I counter

[raven plover]

insane suddenly almost all sr15

[rose oracle]

people use soda for pvp?

[gritty ridge]

Late game, but yes

[crystal flicker]

T1 against Scarlet Soda will RNG
T2 Should counter
T3 It's down to Emi CS

[gritty ridge]

You dont have soda in t1

You have siren

[crystal flicker]

Your CP kinda low

[gritty ridge]

If it was scar soda id use ros

[minor pier]

;~; low invested, had to focus on SR...

[crystal flicker]

Bay burst should counter Scarlet yes

[gritty ridge]

Yippee

[crystal flicker]

Maybe VestiTac will be able to fill SR and PvP tho

[covert lintel]

He bought perfectionist, therapist and custom package

[gritty ridge]

Ill wait for testing before drawing her, I only have like 80 pulls rn

[crystal flicker]

T3 is concerning tbh

650 is like 361 range

[umbral crown]

was hoarding mats just for this moment

[raven plover]

he lost on top 64 last season, maybe thats why

[umbral crown]

might be, i lost in league this season but if i had the mats like him would be doing the same

to come stronger for next one

like i will go next season with tempura lv7 but if i had enough rocks helm and emilia would get enough cs for breakpoints

[sinful sapphire]

guides tend to get stale over time so it would be best to observe champ arena. If in doubt copy your opponent's team and jumble and take notes which wins against which.

[minor pier]

idk how to read this, would my attacker scarlet be better using siren stun, or sticking with lap RL gen

[radiant coral]

ancient beings with emilia smh wish i have her

[radiant coral]

from the graph, it's saying you're gonna be stunning their scarlet before their burst, so they will be bursting with maiden instead

I think you're better off with siren cuz they will be nuking you first

but you just need to change your placements around since I think siren can die pretty easily from being in P1 and also being countered attacked by scarlet

[minor pier]

oh ok siren wins i guess..

[leaden canyon]

NA and the union is MBAD

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet P1 P2 isn't hte best option if you against Noah

[minor pier]

yeah if im attacking with a scar team, i wont throw her against a noah

[quartz canopy]

how do I beat this team?

[quartz canopy]

3RL

I was thinking of using something like this

[lunar pawn]

can anyone help me remake my SPA teams please? they can't defend against anyone ever anymore, here's my current setup + roster