pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

@fathom rock I get another level today I'm going to try and smash CC again at chap 28

[fathom rock]

Rng time

[shell hazel]

hah 😄

I need more ammo on cindy and rapi tbh for the ammo thing, eventually I'll get it

a lot going on so I don't really find I have the time/attention to focus on all at once

@umbral belfry good luck on your brackets 🙂

[strong oyster]

what do you think about Bay tr and Poli tr?

[hollow lagoon]

Nah u wanna down rocks on ur PvP units u know Tis your tru calling

That’s worse than my lack of doro

But once I got my first Dorothy she came super often

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

U know

I don’t find 2 ammo and 3 ammo rapi toooo different In Terms of output

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you-might-be-right-arnold-lang-sacrifice-s1e10-i-think-you-might-be-correct-gif-26714253

she reloads fairly quick with my gurl crown

[swift mango]

Better than me, 1.5 years and still missing Rapu, Modernia, Doro.

[shell hazel]

cindy sometimes catches me short for the qte 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I need to improve my 2atk 2 ele rapi tho

[hollow lagoon]

Nah u never use her for qte

[shell hazel]

I mean it needs lightning dps

she is my only one so I have to 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Oh crystal container

[shell hazel]

yeah

the main one no Rapi blows that up

[hollow lagoon]

U need to do a odd reload then

[shell hazel]

I posted my video and retro said I was playing perfectly and couldn't do better

-# I'd never lie

[hollow lagoon]

Change cube so ur reload time is shuffled differently?

[hollow lagoon]

I mean crystal container there’s only 1 way to do it

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DVJFABmHqw here if you want to confirm how perfectly I was playing

-# totally perfectly not any problems

[hollow lagoon]

I don mald crazy like u

[hollow lagoon]

A lot of artificial switching when u can just siren

[shell hazel]

yeah so the reason for that is because I prefer to manual on rapi 🙂

and sometimes I want to focus so I use siren

and sometimes I just want to use crown only to kill the icicles so I manual her

and sometimes on qte I want to use cindy to ensure she doesn't randomly miss

[hollow lagoon]

The crown switch is fine but the rapi manual I won’t comprehend

[shell hazel]

so I default back to rapi when I can basically 😛

for here it's probably fine but siren stops shooting if you're not on a target

[hollow lagoon]

Siren stops shooting if not on target wot?

[placid bloom]

Siren stops but your MGs won't

[hollow lagoon]

Oh u mean

[placid bloom]

so it's fine

[hollow lagoon]

Like between point A and point B

[placid bloom]

that's just how it is, only MGs can empty their clip into the air

[hollow lagoon]

Cinderella also does no?

Unless I’m finally delusional

I could be

[shell hazel]

yeah so I prefer to manual rapi so I don't get breaks in shooting essentially

because my aim is far from perfect

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a auto-aim user

[shell hazel]

the switching generally goes fine anyway

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

I aim correct when I know I need to correct

Auto dosnt mean u can’t control

[shell hazel]

correct

I do sometimes as well btw

it depends basically, on what I'm fighting

[hollow lagoon]

When stage is too busy with shit I just resign to fate

[shell hazel]

I will auto for kraken and manual the tentacles dead, but let the auto take over

[hollow lagoon]

I let auto take over after I realign back to kraken core

Or atleast close to it

I’d only the auto aim/burst controls on mobile aren’t so puny I’d have greater finess

[shell hazel]

yeah they are small. I think tablets are better for it?

I don't play much on mobile but when I do I usually auto there as much as possible lol

[hollow lagoon]

Man I really could use a def roll on crown, either that or 1 more core

Oh wait maybe I can get away with slightly better cube

[shell hazel]

I don't think def rolls add much tbh

I just resi all my main team lol

all 5 run resi as crown helps reload anyway and it's my highest cube

[hollow lagoon]

Well ur not tinkering with indivilia

[shell hazel]

no that is true

[hollow lagoon]

My current indivilia Strat only works if I’m on pc

On mobile it fails m 20% of the time because I’m slightly slower and crown won’t full heal

A def roll will fix that

And it’s not like crown needs much of anything besides ammo

And maybe atk and ele which I happen to already have

[shell hazel]

give her the def cube 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Nah

[shell hazel]

not sure if that helps

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

It basically guarantees my run

But u know switching cube is annoying and I already do it a lot for the raid stuff

[shell hazel]

yes true

[hollow lagoon]

My crown have some empty slots and chargespeed:dmg lines if I can slap a def in there I’m golden

[shell hazel]

true they are pointless on her

[hollow lagoon]

Ugh my crown has 3 atk and 2 ele she’s better rolled than my rapi

[shell hazel]

def/atk/ele/ammo are king

[hollow lagoon]

And 3 ammo

[shell hazel]

I dunno why this guy thinks that re-arranging his scar team somehow will help it not lose

[hollow lagoon]

My rapi has more crit lines

I mean

Wouldent know, that team folds to 2rl Noah it is what it is

I have a friend who have issue with this team

I was under the impression 2 rl scarlet would yeet it but according to him the Noah comes in time so I’m guessing noise is jackal linked and gets feed to 2rl from a 2.5rl?

[shell hazel]

jackal is bugged atm extra gen

if noise bursts in time then it can make the team tanky also

and rapu has extra heals too

[hollow lagoon]

I had him roll double boosted scarlet shouldent matter tank wise but I guess rosana is needed

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hologra-hololive-anime-tokino-sora-swordsman-gif-21117604

Tokino Soda will stun Noise Noah

[shell hazel]

I mean this probably feeds to 2RL or close to it

might be why 2RL scar doesn't work

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel so I guess 2rl Noah redhood burst?

[shell hazel]

surely you just catch the nuke with your own Noah and then blast away after

scarlet is bursting,

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not the one having issue

[shell hazel]

it's rookie right?

[hollow lagoon]

Yep

[shell hazel]

just run similar speed rapi with noah

[hollow lagoon]

Rapi better than redhood?

[shell hazel]

rapi aoes yeah I think so

if it's too fast swap out helmT for someone a bit slower

[hollow lagoon]

Nah if running your own 2rl it’s better force him into 2rl

I’m just thinking redhood cuz I get large damage boost as b1

[shell hazel]

change as you see fit but ultimately on similar burst time with noah rapi should trade better once they wear off

scarlet is kind of meh after her burst

[hollow lagoon]

Why the noise b1

[shell hazel]

hp buff and such

[hollow lagoon]

u rather use that than biscuit Noah?

[shell hazel]

you won't really need biscuit

can just try that or various other options

[hollow lagoon]

I guess depends on his noise investment

[shell hazel]

if not noise then can do another b1 but don't want RH to b3 here I think necessarily

she'll get hung up on single targets

layout depends on what you run and who links with jackal

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent matter since noise will vanish to his very strong rh but I guess the a0e would work better with the jackal linked

[shell hazel]

noise won't die that fast, or shouldn't do unless super uninvested

it's 2RL she's usually somewhat tanky

sure p1 noise at 3RL may die but I feel she can usually live to 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

She would I’m just assuming b1 +b3 hood would free up a slot for biscuit for a 10 sec Noah stall and scarlet is single target

Tho noise is prob linked with jackal and scarlet might have issue

[placid bloom]

this clears, no chance of random death by getting RNG high rolled by Scar counter either.

[hollow lagoon]

How does elemental damage work on units in case of damage share?

[shell hazel]

there are probably a lot of teams that beat this though

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah

[placid bloom]

and no chance of mis-indom

[hollow lagoon]

But u know, it’s not like I get to test anything now days

[placid bloom]

because Jackal will be stuck at 50% HP but Helm and SBS can drop under

Blanc also can't kill herself to Scar counter

[shell hazel]

no I just mean that it didn't look super hard main thing is accounting for their noah and catching their scar nuke with your own

or in this case indom instead of noah

[hollow lagoon]

U think indom sbs can go though rapunzel+noise heals and a Noah?

[placid bloom]

yes, 7s is a long time

I Blanc through every Noah that isn't paired with Biscuit

[shell hazel]

I mean it's rookie they can just try both (or even your 3rd option)

as long as they're not cp gapped anyway

[hollow lagoon]

I mean yes I know this, but bro is a lost cause since he asks me what’s a RL

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

tbh that Scar's damage is also pretty low with 0 buffers

probably doesn't even one-shot Biscuit

Helm might die because ele advantage

[hollow lagoon]

1RL is the unit of measure ment of the time it takes for your rocket launch units to land their shot and resolve the burst gen blablabla

[placid bloom]

but that's it

[shell hazel]

yeah the frame thing is better on nikke.work tbh but that's even more complicated to explain I think 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

me going into ca with same team

my only unit with no ol gear is my bay

also managed to max doll jackal, this will be a fun one

[whole pawn]

so diamond 2 is enough for noahless

[floral kiln]

How often does the pvp doc get updated?

[shell hazel]

I think I basically wound up running the same teams as well lol

my jackal SR-15 as well

[swift mango]

Made my hard choice.

[shell hazel]

Blood what are you doing

[swift mango]

No 3 lines but a natural 5% CS is good.

[swift mango]

Just what I should.

Not like I have anything to invest in rn.

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-let-this-man-cook-cook-deadpool-and-wolverine-cooking-gif-15846581740880760712

[swift mango]

Probably Invest in Ludmilla next season.

[covert lintel]

[pale knoll]

CA teams with no noah?

Need to set them up

[quartz canopy]

hello, how can I improve my defending team in pvp? my third team feels pretty mediocre

[swift mango]

No one ever won CA without Noah.

I'm done with my stupid teams.

[misty finch]

Any recs for how to beat?

Thinking fast scar for T1 but IDK how to consitently counter for other two

[swift mango]

Now pray if I could get over the league round with it.

[primal charm]

th is this

[shell hazel]

oh god @nimble swan

[nimble swan]

I wanted to joke about what if we get into the same group

Anyway

I'm going with a meme cook

and as I see we have Corleone too in our group, so it will be fun lol

[tulip quest]

Da hell?

[shell hazel]

damn my 2RL scar runs straight into your 2RL bay again

[misty finch]

Would these work? Not expecting T2 to win

[shell hazel]

what are the odds?! 😮

2nd time we fight and same 2RL bay block

[swift mango]

Pray be the day I get my Rapu. Now I'm just chilling to see if my anchor team win.

[shell hazel]

I don't love it, first 2 matches I think you win already just on counters

my SBS indom into your biscuit

my 2RL scar into your 2RL bay

[tulip quest]

Why are you using Anchor btw blood?

[nimble swan]

I might win first 2 and 4

man.. I wouldn't have thought we meet again

[swift mango]

Maybe because nothing better to use.

[tulip quest]

This Anchor I mean

[shell hazel]

yep I'm probably dead to counter positions again 😄

[tulip quest]

I never got out of Advance

[shell hazel]

ah well if I go out now at least I can sleep

[tulip quest]

I think Im the unluckiest guy in C.A

[nimble swan]

well what about the others?

[swift mango]

Maybe actually invest more to Arena units.

[shell hazel]

I didn't check the others tbh let's see

[tulip quest]

IM TOP 1 in my current SPA with whales over 60-100 levels

I'm a pvp nut bro

[shell hazel]

rhyno guy mostly running some nonsense, corleone has good teams usually I think

[tulip quest]

Tho im 100% sure I will drop to top 3 at least

[primal charm]

wth my cp drop under 3m this ca

[tulip quest]

Can't beat whales eventually

[nimble swan]

dang, i think lose against corleone

[swift mango]

Max doll and skill Nero, Moran, Noise, Emi, ReiT, Noah, Rossanna, Rapu?

[tulip quest]

Rapu only

[shell hazel]

his t1 is similar so SBS mirror with me and into your biscuit

[tulip quest]

dude thats crazy I only SR15 characters like HelmT and Emilia

[shell hazel]

in fact let me map this out quick

[swift mango]

You stole my Rapu

[tulip quest]

Carries only

[tulip quest]

Still no Rapu?

I got no Ein after 2 years of playing and im stuck in HC 37-30 Because of that

[swift mango]

Try investing more width wise so you have 5 strong teams.

[primal charm]

hey i need rapu too

[shell hazel]

arguably my stall is facing your most cope team again as well 😄

this is just a repeat of our last match haha

[tulip quest]

Bro I would if I could I'm really unlucky with the Maintenance Kits

[shell hazel]

obv we don't know the attackers/defenders so hard to use that to judge things

I have mirror matches with Corleone on 1 and 3

your cindy probably takes match 1 off both of us depends how slow it is vs our speed a bit

and how well biscuit + defender tanks the SBS indom if it fires

[swift mango]

Well, you could reroll dispatch more and like I said, build a CA team in your mind or with Nikke deck first.

Then upgrade the units needed for it to happen. Don't max invest just carriers only.

[tulip quest]

I do Reroll

[swift mango]

And pray to RNG gods.

[primal charm]

🙏🏻

[pale knoll]

To make history, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work out in the end

[shell hazel]

I won't think about it too hard I think - I win or I lose at this point haha

[nimble swan]

is your sg strong enough to kill his stall? guess no?

[shell hazel]

I think you beat me 3-2 either way my matches with Corleone are more up in their based on whether SG's are on def or no

they can eat it from the back if on def

[swift mango]

I have 17 max doll units but I give sr0 to non treasure, non SPA and non campaign units. And I reroll dispatch lots.

[shell hazel]

it's much harder to eat stall from the front

[nimble swan]

yeah

[shell hazel]

but also he's full SR-15

[nimble swan]

i wonder how my rh buffed scarlet would do against his stall

[shell hazel]

so it depends, some people have weak units in rear guard on stall and they die easy, rest can collapse then

[tulip quest]

Yea hopefully Shift up gives better rewards for people who invest more in PVP cause they give no justice to the rewards

[shell hazel]

ros kills helmT etc

[nimble swan]

but since they are linked scarlet can't die so RH would kill them

[shell hazel]

but if rapu takes too long to die then gg

[tulip quest]

I can't fully go on C.A I focused on SPA only and I do Solo raids for Extra gems for Pulls

[nimble swan]

yea

[swift mango]

Just relax and have fun bro, I'm casual now.

[shell hazel]

in any case I need a lot of luck 😄

[nimble swan]

so Corleone has the best odds to advance?

[shell hazel]

yeah or you

[tulip quest]

I'm casual also I don't think im gonna spend anymore in this game

[shell hazel]

I don't think I will

[nimble swan]

man..

[shell hazel]

shift up added two more whales to my SPA recently so tbh I'm less inclined to go full pvp mode to stay in front

[tulip quest]

I'm actually quite Lucky with my shuffle except 2 whales I can 100% hold top 3 at least

[nimble swan]

sorry we always meet at the wrong time, would rather be it in top 8 or something

[shell hazel]

I'll get my teams where I want them to be then I'll just focus more on raid stuff

[swift mango]

Rosy got champ without biscuit last season

[shell hazel]

ah dw about it not your fault, I was moaning about the whales last few days 😄

[tulip quest]

Keripo also didn't used Biscuit actually he used Sora last team

[nimble swan]

oh yeah like the latest winner guy?

[shell hazel]

this is my SPA now

[nimble swan]

oh this you mean

[shell hazel]

yep

[pale knoll]

I'm talking about noah, without biscuit it will be easy anwyas

[nimble swan]

bracket brought some whales?

[swift mango]

I got champ 3 times without Rapu.

[shell hazel]

i'm ahead of booba but he has max cores everything + 30 sync on me

[tulip quest]

GG

[shell hazel]

campaign wise

I'm further along, he's got some real skill issues

[nimble swan]

lol..

[shell hazel]

I can still beat em for now

[tulip quest]

If no Rapu,Pascal will take her place

[shell hazel]

so I will

[dim sapphire]

hey i have a question how do i know if i defend or attack. Is it random

[primal charm]

anyone win without emilia yet?

[nimble swan]

don't worry he knows how to compensate for those when it counts lol

[dim sapphire]

so i can predict

[swift mango]

Noah is not impossible to replace though. I think Jackal and HelmT are the hardest to replace now.

Then come Noah 3rd.

[tulip quest]

You can't beat wallet tho

[shell hazel]

in quals no one knows

[tulip quest]

If ever they whale like my SPA

[shell hazel]

wallet-kun always wins

[keen vapor]

: novel noted:

[shell hazel]

hey I'm fine with it if I force them to give more money to shift up to win then so be it

just get on with it already so I can go back to sleep

[tulip quest]

Yea I don't mind either their life, their money and hardwork not mine

[keen vapor]

Free multi each 2 weeks not enough for someone

[gritty ridge]

Guys!

Im no longer bricked!

[tulip quest]

also Live service game requires money to operate Helps others also if they whale, free game for a long time

[shell hazel]

I spend a bit but it's not insane whale money and it's not spending to give me levels

so I won't say they can't either lol

[tulip quest]

That's SPA tho, I mean C.A 5 TEAMS, 5

[swift mango]

25 minutes late but better than never.

[gritty ridge]

Not a chance she'd be invested enough pre ca lmao

[shell hazel]

but there are definitely differences between what I spend and what the skill issue CN guys spend to stay ahead 😄

[keen vapor]

Right right, fair

Maybe when out of beta

[placid bloom]

@acoustic light damn you have bloodbath group and your first match in top 64 is gonna be @umbral belfry if you make it out

[gritty ridge]

Does scar benefit from dupes?

[tulip quest]

SEASON 10 Beta How long I wonder also, (maybe forever Beta)

[swift mango]

Ofc yes.

[keen vapor]

Season 20 beta, trust

[gritty ridge]

Im out of new pilgrims to select so im trying to figure out who benefits the most from dupes

[swift mango]

You mean 200

[keen vapor]

She has very cool wallpaper burst

[shell hazel]

wonder if void gave up yet 😄

[keen vapor]

I mean 40 pls no 200

[placid bloom]

Scar damage kinda on the low side tbh, a lot of her kills are barely kills and the enemy could live if they had a little more HP

so dupes help

[tulip quest]

They shud like Make the rewards FOR UNION So it encourages Unions to ALSO Recruit PVP Addicts, at this point in time Union focuses to PVE players only, Rarely pvp and it's quite understandable

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro @dim escarp
#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

wtf is this group 1 😭

[swift mango]

Nah bro, they should make union vs union Arena. Instead of just raid.

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal why do you keep matching with phoric 😭

[tulip quest]

If they don't give gems after beta is fine also, even just materials and all of your union benefits from it, Will encourage Union to recruit us pvp nuts also XD, tho im quite chill already in my union I'm talking bout in general

[gritty ridge]

I might win

[placid bloom]

I'm dead to ace in top 32 so

[dim escarp]

[tulip quest]

Dude thats too Chaotic

[swift mango]

Nah Union vs Union PvP is the only way PvPer matters.

[tulip quest]

2x 400 and your 273

balance

[gritty ridge]

Shiftup loves me

[swift mango]

It's not. Many games have it.

[shell hazel]

comp does matter though

[placid bloom]

but yeah your promo group 1 is kinda screwed, you're gonna meet cup in top 16

[shell hazel]

you can def with with less commander level sync just by having teams that actually burst 😄

[umbral belfry]

yeah I fear this is the end for me LMAO

[tulip quest]

Would be funny if they can implement that honestly

[shell hazel]

right there with you I think I'm deadge in my group also

[umbral belfry]

assuming cup loses to xx

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I looked at the teams, it looks winning for cup

[umbral belfry]

okie back to work I go

[placid bloom]

but I didn't do actual matchup analysis

[gritty ridge]

I also pulled sora, does she have any use?

[placid bloom]

it's just eyeballing

[tulip quest]

B1 Heal + more heals 20%

[placid bloom]

she can stop Mermaid stun, that's it

[gritty ridge]

Thats all I needed to know

[tulip quest]

Lesser version of Noise basically

[shell hazel]

I give em a new defence each day to crack D:

[tulip quest]

Aight I sleep now Mah boisss GL to your C.A runs, I'm always advance anyways even when I'm 3-0 so whatever, hope RNG loves me this time

[shell hazel]

how is your group looking Jaw?

[swift mango]

Anyway, you are just profit driven player to me. Invest in Arena because you want gem. Then compromise to raid investment because you wanted more raid reward. Ignore CA investment because CA has no reward and complain about it.

Be honest with yourselves.

[wet crystal]

Shift up put a tag on my account, it says "fodder"

[tulip quest]

Yea bro No gems Can't pull = less Units for both pvp and PVE

[shell hazel]

sounds about right lol

[dim escarp]

haven't look I'll see tmrw :D surprise

[tulip quest]

Logical approach in my opinion, tho I wouldn't be top 1 in my current SPA if I didn't love pvp and studied it

[shell hazel]

good luck 🙂

I see it as moving a slider a bit

we invest in pvp but suffer in raids some

CA is an extra level of investment required and the rewards aren't really there for it

though it does let you run some stupid comps that people who SPA only wont' have

[twilit bay]

How do I counter Noah, Biscuit, Sanis, Helm, Jackal?

[placid bloom]

Scar Mermaid should do the trick

[clear folio]

LOCK IN!

[shell hazel]

I can't do it ace 😄

I'm facing @nimble swan again and he counters me with the same teams we had last time 😄

I even moved my teams...

[twilit bay]

That's what I was thinking too, I just hope that they don't have 8cs

[shell hazel]

should have left them where they were, then they would have worked better as other people move instead of me

[placid bloom]

well you can Scar Soda if you want to be really sure but Idk if you invested Soda

[shell hazel]

100% sensible logic

[nimble swan]

to be fair biscuit now moved to cindy, and jackal moved to scarlet

[tulip quest]

I think I'm pretty Honest tho, IMO C.A gives no justice to pvp nuts which I consider also myself, the rewards is just urghh, I complain to the reward tho, NOT THE GAME ITSELF, cause I quite like the Simulation of 5 teams

[shell hazel]

that's even worse 🙁

[nimble swan]

yeah, bay got treasure and moran has trina :S

[shell hazel]

buy bay still p2

[nimble swan]

yeah, it only works with rumani

[gritty ridge]

I found the new whale that shuffled into my spa

[nimble swan]

so i was thinking what to do

[twilit bay]

She's linked, but I don't have a R doll to give her 😔 . Thank you though

[gritty ridge]

I got kicked out of top 3

[shell hazel]

blood is also right though, that you won't really ever win CA if you just invested SPA stuff, though SPA is clearly where the actual rewards are really

[nimble swan]

and since i never got defeated running this team, only by nero stall, i thought it will be ok if I leave bay in p2

[shell hazel]

is what it is

[placid bloom]

it wouldn't make sense for CA to have good rewards though, why would they let the stronger get stronger

even if they expanded the pool to all of challenger, that's still just 10 players per group getting all the benefits

[tulip quest]

Yea that's the conundrum of my point basically it gives NO Justice to pvp focused guys who INVESTED Big in C.A

[shell hazel]

but that's kind of also fine

[tulip quest]

While the opposite PPL who invested in Solo Raid can get up to 6K gems

[shell hazel]

there is no real large payoff for winning CA certainly

[swift mango]

Then invest the time to learn and make a better 5 teams.

[tulip quest]

I'am dude always

[placid bloom]

I don't think anyone is realistically getting 6k gem in SR, that's only for rank 1

[shell hazel]

hard to beat the top whales at solo raid though

[tulip quest]

I may not be chatting always but I always read here in pvp arena

[placid bloom]

you are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to get rank 1

and you get 6k gems back

[shell hazel]

what is a realistic goal for good investment in SR? I don't think it's 6k

ironically you can get 6K per month in SPA lol

[placid bloom]

3% only gets you 1.4k gems

[swift mango]

Oh well good luck.

[tulip quest]

Yea but can top 100 as casual

[placid bloom]

you don't get 3k gems until top 100

[shell hazel]

think top 100 is a bit more than a casual tbh

[placid bloom]

which is well out of reach for new players

[umbral belfry]

lock in folian

[nimble swan]

investing a few hundred to a thousand bucks for 6k gems is questionable at least

[shell hazel]

it's because we don't have the brackets

[placid bloom]

top 0.7-1% in comparison only gets 1.8k gems

[shell hazel]

so we face off day 1 players with all things invested

[placid bloom]

which is most likely as far as you're pushing if you're hardcore

[shell hazel]

yeah that tracks better I think

[swift mango]

I'm no longer care about units for Pvp or PvE. I only save for my waifu and build whatever I want to build that I happen to have. That's how I get out of all compromises in this game.

[shell hazel]

top 1% seems feasible if you invest/team build right

[tulip quest]

Yea guys I did say UP TO doesn't mean every 1 gets 6k that is just the maximum

[shell hazel]

yeah it's why I though to ask what a feasible goal was haha

because I know that 6k didn't seem like it would be, not for a while (maybe not ever)

[placid bloom]

well there is 1 bright side to being rank 1 SR, you get to set the bar for making everyone else's life miserable in SR museum

that's the real reward

[shell hazel]

yep sounds about right

[placid bloom]

good luck to anyone trying to unlock unlimited mode for the 30b+ dmg SRs

[shell hazel]

I think they'll stagger these quite a bit but yeah...

[tulip quest]

I don't think Museum is worth it tho

that thing is Pain

[shell hazel]

unlock unlimited if you can seemed worth to me

lots of doll mats

[placid bloom]

you're getting a decent amount of materials

[shell hazel]

that would fix your doll mat issue a bit if you skipped it...

[placid bloom]

a lot of it is not as useful, like the season 1 treasure maint items

[tulip quest]

Not ever is more likely XD unless ur a gigaton whale

[shell hazel]

I think with time and solid investment though you can do OK especially if you can keep up with pulling the meta units

a lot to build though, arguably more so than CA

[tulip quest]

The unlimited mode is Easiest right now, before they reset the rankings

[ionic rose]

Wait so outinvesting my competition in CA is meaningless?

[shell hazel]

was talking about solo raid

[ionic rose]

Oh ok

[tulip quest]

TO clear top 1 and get the maintenance mats is currently easy, but wait until they reset rankings cause It will be HELL no joke

[shell hazel]

I don't think they will right?

[tulip quest]

just not that LEVEL 0/100 stuff

[shell hazel]

I assumed it's a static point in time target

[tulip quest]

that thing is INSANE

[placid bloom]

museum is always going to be same score as the real clear

[shell hazel]

it's beating the rank 1 from when the SR was up

they won't reset that

[placid bloom]

so the old ones are always gonna be easy

[shell hazel]

well easier anyway, 3rd one wanted 12B 😄

[placid bloom]

ice dragon is the first SR where the high score is above 15b

[tulip quest]

That's good actually the higher your level, the more invested characters the easier to clear it

[placid bloom]

which was only a few months ago

[shell hazel]

oh right, OK cool so doable then to keep up for a while

[placid bloom]

and you can easily get close to that with current units

[shell hazel]

it's 400 locked

the unlocked one is based on unlimited mode

the beat previous 1 thing is 400 locked

[tulip quest]

ya ya I replied wrong post my bad

your other post XD

[shell hazel]

np just confirming haha

[swift mango]

Anyway, you will always have enough pull if you focus on Arena meta. The only thing you lack is resources. You only lack pull if you are focusIng on something else as well.

In that case, just swipe your card if you want both.

In my opinion, the only ones who could be considered PvP nuts in this chat are Keripo and Rosy.

[shell hazel]

I can't really compete in the unlimited one at my sync

[tulip quest]

Bro enuf pulls is Okay but did you NEVER DREAM OF CORE7 Emilia? or Core7 Scarlet maybe

[placid bloom]

I tried unlim, at best I can get step 3 on my strongest team

my weaker teams still step 2/1

[wet crystal]

Below 400s, yall hit phase/step 20 in the museum?

[placid bloom]

doubt

[tulip quest]

I tot u consider urself a NUT also?

[placid bloom]

I think you can hit step 20 at like maybe 441+?

on Blacksmith and Ultra

[wet crystal]

Oh... dang

[placid bloom]

MW is a different story

[tulip quest]

Try Unlimited Whale you will Mald bro but still not get to step 20

[swift mango]

Core +7 scarlet is within reach. I'm not dream for +7 Emi. Maybe @tropic summit @shell hazel @umbral belfry @quick lake dreamed to have one copy.

[tulip quest]

that thing is INSANE

[shell hazel]

I have no emi in my life 🙁

[placid bloom]

MW probably needs closer to 501

[tulip quest]

lol

[placid bloom]

cuz after all the parts are down it's just a coreless punching bag

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/emi-emilia-re-zerp-emilia-best-girl-gif-19428473

[tulip quest]

Man im having too much fun chatting here XD

[placid bloom]

then again, we could get really broken 3rd anni chars that up the damage levels again

[shell hazel]

I'll never have c7 emi anyway - it's a whale dream

[placid bloom]

and it'll get significantly easier

[shell hazel]

I think that is the goal

more power creep = easier to keep up

[placid bloom]

Anis for sure should be a massive damage increase

only question is her element

[tulip quest]

That time u wanted a character but never pulled her even after 100+ pulls of being poor Yea I get that feeling

[placid bloom]

I wonder if they will keep her elec again

[tulip quest]

Just that I was lucky with Emilia

[swift mango]

No I'm not. I invested 150 pulls, 800 gold ticket on Elegg. And would max doll her. Anyone who doing what I do isn't PvP nut.

[placid bloom]

since we are kinda due for new elec SR

[tulip quest]

I wonder if Anniv char this time is pvp usable

[shell hazel]

if I really like a unit I'll try and MLB but I can't usually go further and it's hard out there with so many banners

I certainly 1 copy a lot if I want to, just where I put my resources ultimately

[swift mango]

I spent that much to MLB her.

[tulip quest]

Not impossible if not pilgrim, I did pull RH 4X in 100 pulls as a newer player 1 time

[tulip quest]

I consider some1 very knowleadgeable in pvp a PVP NUT I think you count in my book

[shell hazel]

yeah can get lucky but it's not usually my thing haha. I have to brute force luck a lot or burn mileage

[swift mango]

@keen vapor is saving 300k+ gem for his eventually max core dream collab unit.

[tulip quest]

Yea mileage hard to get as casual sadge

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

Ikaros

[shell hazel]

I generally prefer to mileage on 1% as well

[swift mango]

And That's why you bricked.

[keen vapor]

But surely I can MLB Emi

[placid bloom]

worse case scenario you can save 660k to guarantee 2200 gold mileage

[keen vapor]

: Novel noted:

[tulip quest]

Can you even saved up to that? I think that is whale territory

[placid bloom]

it's doable

but it's gonna take like close to 3 years

[swift mango]

You have MLB Emi? Lemme check.

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

I will

[tulip quest]

Can you Hold those hands to NOT CLICK ANYTHING For 3 years?

[shell hazel]

I skipped Nier despite wanting the waifu

[placid bloom]

I mean if we are counting tickets and not just gems

it is significantly faster

[shell hazel]

I skipped s.sakura despite wanting waifu 😄

[tulip quest]

I got A2 from free Nier pulls no 2B tho sadly

[shell hazel]

I got a copy of siren with the free ones

so kind of a win and a lose lol

[swift mango]

Anyway I'm more bricked than you now.

[shell hazel]

like it's objectively a win

[keen vapor]

17 maxed dolls is not brick

[swift mango]

No gem is bricked

[tulip quest]

As long as you saved Mileage not brick (As long AS)

[keen vapor]

Also, the next 3 months I'll be challenged by @sinful nimbus and maybe XP or Hero

[tulip quest]

My mileage is now 77 only

Not even half needed for 200

[keen vapor]

Hoard like me get free of temptations

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[shell hazel]

I'm waiting to see what all 3 units of absolute look like because if nothing really matters much I'll just wishlist and get off-banner or via that

[keen vapor]

Almost half is good enough with the +100 free pulls from anni

[swift mango]

I am. hoarding forever until Makima. But not enough time maybe.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/makima-chainsaw-man-csm-csm-anime-chainsaw-man-anime-gif-26957161

[swift mango]

Anni will be triple pilgrim.

[tulip quest]

I suggest u skip unless ur a Solo raid addict, I solo raid also except, I think this 3ple banner not worth it, Collab next month most likely

[shell hazel]

what I might do is grab the strongest one of the 3 at least. we'll see...

[covert lintel]

The more you hoard the more your luck goes away

[shell hazel]

I have 250 pulls~ so not nothing but 6 re-runs next month lol

[keen vapor]

but can wishlist later

Just pull 1, mileage another and wishlist the last

[swift mango]

It's the other way around for me usually in all gacha.

[placid bloom]

we are not really lacking in B1/2 at this point, at most just pull Vesti if she's really good

[swift mango]

I will wishlist all of them.

[shell hazel]

Vesti could be pvp meta then I need her anyway

[keen vapor]

Oh, time to collect

[shell hazel]

if kisenix cope is to be believed lol

[shell hazel]

you can't have my gems shift up-san 😄

[quick lake]

One

[tulip quest]

If for pve, shes bad No CDR if pvp urghhh questionable

[swift mango]

She would have her use if she could hit p3 with normal attack like Emi. Everything else doesn't matter.

[covert lintel]

It's fine, you can get vesti with blue tix

[placid bloom]

I think she is good in theory, whether you can get a team fast enough to use her is another story

[keen vapor]

I'm liking Neon character more and more though

[tulip quest]

Yea

[quick lake]

Vesti will be good, trust

[placid bloom]

cuz if she ends up being 3RL material then no point

[tulip quest]

Neon is pretty well written in my opinion

[shell hazel]

well the current cope is basically cindy replacement lol

[keen vapor]

So ez skip

[tulip quest]

Hmm both pvp and pve Cindy is a beast because of her 2X Burst BUFF when whole community cried LOL

[swift mango]

Yeah, we have no one in Elysion wishlist for Arena except Helm anyway

[shell hazel]

depends on how her explosions work

[covert lintel]

neon could transform into big B later

[tulip quest]

bug happened, so instead of fixing her they just buff her Burst 2x original damage, well im not complaining for sure

[shell hazel]

yep and basically maid duo for pve as well, will be good to get some new stuff worth to add

[tulip quest]

oh nice point actually

[shell hazel]

even for pve

[keen vapor]

I never thought about it before

Which Pilgrims I would try to MLB

Chime ofc

But what about Levi or Pinocho

[swift mango]

My DKW one copy away for max core.

[tulip quest]

Rapi RH

[placid bloom]

wym, I put Arcana on wishlist and got her so I can be Isabel griefer now

[shell hazel]

overspec

[covert lintel]

There is
Quiry

[shell hazel]

not elysion 😛

[tulip quest]

can use in elysion tower

[shell hazel]

I mean from wishlist

[tulip quest]

oh

[shell hazel]

elysion selection is kind of meh

[tulip quest]

my bad

[swift mango]

Core +1 but idk how to use her for now.

[tulip quest]

Yea I really agree with that sadly

[scarlet adder]

guy had fast team with scar, i beat him cause of low cp and he put scarlet in this team xD

[shell hazel]

pilgrim/overspec is highly contested

[tulip quest]

NOT TACTICAL Ingrid needs buff

[covert lintel]

Ask lord @worthy knoll

[swift mango]

I don't have Rapu.

[shell hazel]

I never get any pilgrim in ord tickets

just tetra and missilis a lot

[placid bloom]

dw surely they will do Goddess selector during NY, even if they can't give generic pilgrim selector surely there is no harm giving 3 year old pilgrim to players

then again the launch ones not Goddess anymore

[tulip quest]

Nice suggestion, tho unlikely they give every1 EXCEPT pilgrims past 2 years

[swift mango]

For a small price of 1000 gold tickets.

[tulip quest]

SCAM

Make it silver ticket at least

[scarlet adder]

rosana and mana and something weak to feed and you get rosana burst gen twice ? not good i think but kinda funny:D

[swift mango]

You don't even get that much silver in a year unless you do discount pulls.

And it's limited time selector.

[tulip quest]

yea true

[shell hazel]

I wish they buffed some older units without the treasure system as well btw

[shell hazel]

it feels like it's just made to make us waste doll mats 😄

have enough stuff to build for

[placid bloom]

nah they gotta make you use new units

[swift mango]

Like Trina.

[shell hazel]

imagine like harran becoming good with no strings attached

[placid bloom]

can't just let the people use what they built 3 years ago

[tulip quest]

I want another Monster transformation like HelmT - top tier in both pvp and pve

[shell hazel]

well trina is a treasure as a unit, at least she's good in pvp for burst gen

[tulip quest]

some ppl even built Normal Mihara, NORMAL

[shell hazel]

some guy running Brid I saw 😄

Brid maniac

[tulip quest]

Buff Soda for PVP

[placid bloom]

well if they built SR thinking it would age well then they clearly never played gacha before

[tulip quest]

I even saw Product 23 used in youtube

[shell hazel]

I ran product 23 in my CA at some point haha

was fun

[tulip quest]

she's good in early days as shotgun burst gen

[swift mango]

guess I am.

[covert lintel]

Wreaked by poli

[placid bloom]

well you are not building her for the sake of aging well into the future

you are building her because boredom

[tulip quest]

Blanc Indom wrong tho, could have won otherwise, maybe

[swift mango]

Watch I get champ with her one of those days.

[placid bloom]

tbh she is same speed as Biscuit, no difference between her and Biscuit if Biscuit passive doesn't come up

ez

[shell hazel]

I can actually see you pulling this off lol

[tulip quest]

If some1 used Delta, why not Anchor XD

[swift mango]

Or can't even pass league.

[shell hazel]

such is our fate

[scarlet adder]

even bots have scarlet 😮

[tulip quest]

lol

[placid bloom]

that Scarlet nuke gonna take 20% of your HP

[tulip quest]

Scarlet hard to get early because she is pilgrim

[covert lintel]

I doubt it
You don't know how tanky 45level diff + max core peeps

[scarlet adder]

so she is 1/1/1 xD?

[placid bloom]

I think they are like rentals, 10/10/10 but no doll and only T9M

[swift mango]

Try endurance cube to force SBS to hit one defender the whole game.

[placid bloom]

so no OL stats

wait no they aren't even mlb

[tulip quest]

I didn't knew he was 45 level diff, but about don't know level difference, my SPA is like 60,80 100 level difference of whales bruh, the 100 1, 1hits me

[scarlet adder]

eee so it is still stronger than me sync 200 player :/

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter if they deal zero dmg

[covert lintel]

The one damaging biscuit is poli tho

[tulip quest]

So for sure I know the feeling, except it's winnable until 80+ levels for me

[covert lintel]

P1 defender+immunity already

[swift mango]

Rearrange your team order then.

[swift mango]

Anyway, are you still holding C4 above this Season?

[covert lintel]

I'll try p5 emi tomorrow

I hope so

[tulip quest]

Hard to indom right unit without Jackal

[covert lintel]

Still holding 3 and poking 1&2

[scarlet adder]

scar is easier also becuase she hurts herself

[tulip quest]

Yea but she falls of if She can't 1hit enemy or has Noah

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

pure fodder to be killed

[swift mango]

Maybe Idk why you have to use Emi against this team but okay.

[tulip quest]

Maybe he is just testing the waters

[acoustic light]

its insane idk whos making it out but its not gonna be me

[covert lintel]

What did i do wrong

[tulip quest]

If he accidentally wins Rank 1 then he cannot test his comp in SPA

[shell hazel]

mentioned certain mango man

[swift mango]

2 Chinese and 1 Japanese

[umbral crown]

[acoustic light]

@wet crystal Groups again Gl!

[umbral crown]

Me vs asia?

[covert lintel]

Tell me what team you will use against that

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

it's okay I'm dead to ace in top 32 if I make it that far

[swift mango]

You can wipe them with your old Cindy.

Emi doesn't do that much DMG even with buffers.

[tulip quest]

Trum X p is banned word president name

[shell hazel]

mango man

[placid bloom]

but first group is really just so stacked, cup on bottom half of the bracket too

so have to go through Hime and cup to make top 8

[covert lintel]

Tell me the full team

[swift mango]

Yeah, you dare to speak about the forbidden T.

[swift mango]

B2 defender+ Biscuit+ flex flex + defender

[tulip quest]

I think shift up just doesn't wanna talk bout politics in this discord fair enuf

[covert lintel]

Even the meaning is actually different?
English is so inflexible

[swift mango]

Trumpcard

[tulip quest]

Triumph

[placid bloom]

trumpet

[tulip quest]

Trumpoline

XD

[swift mango]

Just don't type out the Forbidden T's name alone.

[shell hazel]

yeah we have a game called [see in image] that involves card battling with stats, can't say that here lol

[tulip quest]

TrumpXD

[placid bloom]

tramp

[swift mango]

Trumppoledance

[placid bloom]

[covert lintel]

*insert chime's kisama voice

[covert lintel]

So we let biscuit burst?

[swift mango]

Could put P1 Crown or Blanc

[acoustic light]

Or XX Akrij and folian in groups again like what is this group 1 balancing

They should do seeding based on previous CA

[covert lintel]

I mean p1 will definitely be stunned by siren right?

[swift mango]

You might not even need p5 defender if not deficit.

[swift mango]

hmm biscuit burst is fine too I guess. Or 2nd buffer if you wanted.

[swift mango]

You could wipe with no buff Cindy if you aren't deficit easily.

[swift mango]

Could do sth like

Rumani+flex to die+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindy
As well

Rumani with lowest DEF using Endurance manipulation to counter SBS.

[whole pawn]

ligma

[covert lintel]

My deficit

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

I bet he has many black stat

Or maybe all nikkes 101010

[shell hazel]

and a black amex card

[gritty ridge]

3 pvp pulls today, nice

Scar, sora, and viper

[swift mango]

Cindy team could win you at this deficit. But not more than this.

[swift mango]

Top_trumps

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-man-open-wallet-riches-money-money-flying-gif-4682342128965485892

Or wallet

[swift mango]

But Putin, Xi Jiping (CN president), Lee Jae Myung (their own country president) and Kim Jong Un (North Korean) are allowed.

Biden too, still president when this game first released.

[umbral belfry]

little does phoric know he likely beats me this rd

[placid bloom]

if he makes it out

his group kinda rough

[umbral belfry]

granted cup is the bigger threat than me so

phoric vs folian for the 9999th time

just kiss at tbis point

[placid bloom]

that other guy is top 4er too

[umbral belfry]

lmd hasn't been top 4 since the literal first ca

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

hmm I didn't check his frames

[umbral belfry]

folian tho is good (when rng blesses him)

[placid bloom]

my group potato but it don't matter if I meet ace in top 32

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal this is your chance to get revenge either on phoric and/or me. lock in

[umbral belfry]

your luck is so bad

[placid bloom]

I even have chance to lose top 64 tbh

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

that Seung guy beat me a few CA back

[umbral belfry]

surely your group isn't as doomed as mine

[placid bloom]

maybe he will beat me again

[umbral belfry]

@short moon in this cursed bracket too?

[placid bloom]

I also saw Zyph and Bigdesti in same group

so one of those getting knocked out right away

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/viper-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-17053501002792169827

gimme

[umbral belfry]

not a good day for the pies

[shell hazel]

Hime I see you typing there

you probably hiding Viper from me like you did Rumani

[umbral belfry]

hi hippo

you don't have viper?

[shell hazel]

I do not

[umbral belfry]

if it makes you feel any better mine isn't lb2

[shell hazel]

if I wish hard enough she may appear 😄

[umbral belfry]

so I won't give u any

[shell hazel]

Hime!

[tropic summit]

it's not luck, single buff scarlet is non lethal, especially if non crit and especially against rumani that boosts her own hp

[placid bloom]

maybe you get one if you kiss

[tropic summit]

you're really attached to that uh, do you've an emilia sleeping pillow and an emilia shaped fork to eat with? do you also have an emilia shaped house and an emilia shaped toilet?

[shell hazel]

Hime only has room in her heart for doggos as she told me 🙁

speaking of..

Hime did you move to look after different doggos?

oh also

[umbral belfry]

I bathed 3 doggos today

one kept licking my ass during it

[shell hazel]

you moved states right?

[umbral belfry]

yes

[shell hazel]

hold on perfect time

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

did you give consent

[umbral belfry]

wtf

I meant my face why did it say ass LMAO

[shell hazel]

haha

[umbral belfry]

maybe if I channel my inner bisc i can squeak into top 8

[shell hazel]

oh I'm dying lmao

Hime save me

[placid bloom]

we must save your dark history

[shell hazel]

right click > save as > wtf is this.jpg

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I'll let you off Hime it's Friday and we've all had stupid work this week

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I've been busy bullying Void

and arguing with Booba

[swift mango]

Darn, I didn't know you wishing for all of them.

[shell hazel]

Void - lost his war

Booba rock paper scissors until he gets 401 at least (398)

at 401 it will be trickier as I'm quite far off the 381 jump

[swift mango]

It's rookie. The just need to hit you 5 time 10 minutes before reset and you could never beat them even with gem.

[shell hazel]

they're in asia I think

it's probably like 3AM there at reset 😄

if they want to stay up to stupid o'clock in the morning to try it I welcome depriving them of sleep for the sake of rookie arena

[umbral belfry]

let judas have a turn

[shell hazel]

judas sucks he keeps sucking

he has same cp as me but failed to beat me like 3 times now

at least booba always wins when he attacks lol

booba guy probably online more on the weekend will have to keep an eye on em

week days seems they're too busy to check constantly so I can steal possession of 1 for some hours

[onyx scaffold]

3am doesn't matter to asian but tbh i think the guy doesn't care about rank.
He just wants to win you

Being rank 1 but losing to you means no shit

[shell hazel]

I dunno, not like he'll struggle

he's +30 sync and core max everything

nothing I can set will win reliably, we're just trading 1/2 lol

+30 is still in my range and even the 401 jump should be doable, depends how fast they shoot up levels, eventually might get gapped

[swift mango]

It's a pretty pointless war that everyone have to experience at least once, 1 year into the game. Idk if you would still have the fire to keep up with this after another year.

[shell hazel]

it's not too hard as I'm not gemming anyway

if anything it makes my life a bit easier because I can only attack twice per day really, so I just have to decide when that is

[swift mango]

Looking at the report you should did

[shell hazel]

and I can hit near the reset, let the asian dude wake up at 3AM to fight back lol

[onyx scaffold]

U underestimate asian.
We can just stay awake until 3am

[swift mango]

I guess non of you are gemming, my bad then.

[gritty ridge]

Chat do i win

[short moon]

What bracket?

[shell hazel]

I won't get into it, if they take the spot I'll not hit back right away usually

[onyx scaffold]

But nowadays I prefer gemming back than staying awake

[shell hazel]

I'd rather wipe out more than spend gems to hit back

[swift mango]

Good luck

[shell hazel]

sure but he's offline for long periods of time I've seen

[gritty ridge]

Scar isnt linked

[shell hazel]

like 12+ hours so they're busy on something not this game

so at those kinds of breaks I have a fairly uninterrupted hold on 1 for a long time, I've still had it most of the time since reset

and I haven't needed to change my schedules or stay up until 3AM, even if they do get the better of me in spot 1 I'll still get 3k gems + CA thing at 2 anyway

but whole thing is pointless tbh I'd just alternate with them for spot 1 if they really wanted it, otherwise it's just a game of cause them some hassle 😛

like the void guy, I hit em once they hit me 5 times, so I've just been smashing them into submission ever since

[umbral belfry]

group 1 (starting top 64) it was me, cup, xx, phoric/folian and you

[short moon]

Oh ill probably get knocked out before then :<

[umbral belfry]

dw we'll both be bullied by senior pie cup

[shell hazel]

time to go to Altess Levoire

[scarlet adder]

gg one guy vs 3 bots 😄

[limber rampart]

what? Why is Scarlet not stunned?

[placid bloom]

because low ammo

she reloads, your 50th bullet hits cover

Mermaid doesn't save the stun for when she hits a real target, if your 50th bullet whiffs you get no stun

[worthy sorrel]

hope you saw something we didn't lol.

chatting about it in guild and it looks like it probably comes down to whether t5 sgs are on def or offense

xx's got my number. beats me every season

[placid bloom]

Idk I just eyeballed it

[shell hazel]

lock in cup

[placid bloom]

I didn't actually check speeds or anything

I could check

[worthy sorrel]

we're thinking
p1 L
p2 W
p3 L
p4 W
p5 depends on if sgs are atk or def

in p1, my indom team isn't max cs, so gets to 2.5rl with feed against most teams, but not this 1 because xx is running 5rl
p3, i don't have stun defense for scar. she'd need to kill siren with s2 but xx siren is sr15 so should be enough dmg reduction

[placid bloom]

3RL Blanc should catch 2RL Cinderella, the only way you lose is if Centi gets clipped too early and you have incorrect indom. If double Jackal proc bug is happening in CA too then you will be pushed to 2.5RL

[oblique gyro]

i didn't changed def yet yeah i'll work on that soon

[placid bloom]

actually it's kinda high chance Centi gets clipped

[lone sequoia]

but that is full rng, not many people fix cs to hit before b1 or b2 with cindy nuke and her hits can oneshot the hyper carry or change the indom target, still is weird to see that the blanc can win against 2RL cindy even with those odds

[shell hazel]

I beat Void to death already :d

I can't even see them to attack them anymore (think it's 200 points diff)

[oblique gyro]

i see that XDDD i think you broke his mind

[shell hazel]

haha

poor guy D:

[umbral belfry]

bully

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

i'm dealing with whale there and new whale in my SPA as well

they're the real bullies Hime

I declare self-defence

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[placid bloom]

it's triple linked and Blanc won't die from 1 hit, so it has to be Centi getting hit. But I think she has to dodge like 3 shots or something, which is not favorable

[shell hazel]

lock in on self-defence. Daijobu :0

[placid bloom]

if 2 shots land on Jackal links maybe you get correct indom even if Centi gets hit

[shell hazel]

Hime I'm Alice

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I can tell you, you'd have to be brave to run around in the Alice outfit in real life 😄

[lone sequoia]

if linked, depends in the first hit to the unlinked unit+3RL cs, cindy should hit 2 times before b1 proc, but the cs is the important thing, so all in the cs difference or dmg

[spare nimbus]

Do i use rh instead of siren for team 3?

[lone sequoia]

yep

you should hit before noah burst proc, with cs you can hit before noise but at same cp range still a wipe

[spare nimbus]

Got it 👍

Thanks

[lone sequoia]

and trina p2

[spare nimbus]

No trina should be p5

[lone sequoia]

just to be sure, some people forget about b2 rh

[spare nimbus]

[cedar orbit]

his team 3 lost because of Biscuit tho

[wise horizon]

I fought this before and never had a problem but I lost the last time I fought. Any advise here?

[placid bloom]

which team lost

[random field]

is the cp gap too big?

[shell hazel]

opponent cp * 0.846 = your min recommended cp

open up the old ms calculator app and do that 😄

[random field]

damn i'm under

[shell hazel]

also Tia slows down your burst rotation

re-enter b1 but each burst step adds a mandatory delay

same thing with viper re-enter b2

no one really runs tia in arena these days and this is one of the reasons probably

[random field]

i have biscuit and blanc for other b2's methinks

[cedar orbit]

Anyone knows what's the team vs 2RL Scarlet, Trina, Rosanna

[placid bloom]

2RL Noah Biscuit Cindy

[cedar orbit]

so Helm has to be on the team too

[shell hazel]

for tia? she is a b1

well, re-enter b1 anyway

you have to watch positioning for your pvp teams as bursts are auto left => right

[random field]

oh yeah i forgot

[shell hazel]

gotta balance burst order with positioning, can be tricky

but if your opponents fail to understand that, easy win sometimes 🙂

[random field]

i guess i have noise rouge dalter and liter

[shell hazel]

liter can work as a decent enough b1 buffer but she feeds as smg

noise buffs hp and does some healing, no feed, but fairly slow compared to other RL

no one runs rouge

liter is mainly thrown in with scarlet if used at all

[gritty ridge]

Now that I have scar, is scar indom just abusing her counters?

[shell hazel]

basically but scar does decent damage in her own right

[gritty ridge]

I know I should build scar trina but that leaves me with a bad 3rd team still

And stall team is a daunting task

[placid bloom]

I still have bad 3rd team

that's just normal

[shell hazel]

you only just got scar today tbh

[placid bloom]

you literally need to have the full meta roster to have 3 good teams

[shell hazel]

takes a bit of time to build stuff

[placid bloom]

no missing clips

[gritty ridge]

I almost have the whole meta roster

[placid bloom]

if you miss even 1 clip

you cannot have 3 good teams

[gritty ridge]

Im not missing any clips, just some odd picks here and there

Rosanna, sbs, pepper

Thats it I think for non limited

[shell hazel]

nah stuff like pepper not really needed for meta teams

[placid bloom]

then what's the issue

none of those 3 are needed

[shell hazel]

and ros is situational but she isn't great on def

you will lack emi though like me

[gritty ridge]

I think i messed up the 3rd team

[placid bloom]

there, I fixed for you

[wise horizon]

Didn’t lose this time but came close. T2: their scarlet was last NIKKE standing and nearly wiped my full team. T1: scarlet died quick but it’s probably because she wasn’t linked and RH finished the opponents team

[placid bloom]

only thing you need is some cs to make team 2 2.5RL

[gritty ridge]

Scar is gonna die

[placid bloom]

no she isn't

[gritty ridge]

How

[placid bloom]

you have 2s of Trina invin, if you are dying then your opponent is way over sync to be able to kill you with normals

or they have built Ros, which they shouldn't at your sync

[gritty ridge]

Oh, trina invul

Nobody has built anything but me

Theyre all just whales

[placid bloom]

well if they are just beating your ass into the ground with raw stats you are losing anyway

[gritty ridge]

My top 3 rn i can only beat 1 team

The other 2 teams cp gap even my campaign team

[placid bloom]

then team comp won't matter. But the people at similar CP to you should not be able to crack these

until they actually invest PvP

then again Pascal kinda low CP

you can use DrakeT but she might screw your links

[gritty ridge]

Oh these teams aren't good cp at all

All around 220k

[placid bloom]

and DrakeT can mis-indom if she eats too much Scar counter

[gritty ridge]

Oh I forgot laplace was a pvp unit

I need her still

[placid bloom]

well the Pascal issue will eventually be solved if you pull XMaiden

[shell hazel]

pascal is an awful SPA main unit to run

[placid bloom]

so around 4 months

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ill get maiden on rerun

[shell hazel]

no real reason to invest in pascal

[placid bloom]

you wouldn't even need to use him if you had SBS

but Rapi too slow

[shell hazel]

I'd rather boost a clip SG

[gritty ridge]

If I had sbs I wouldnt have built bready

[shell hazel]

bready feels like a raid unit tbh

[gritty ridge]

Dont make me run bready indom in spa

[placid bloom]

I mean if you have linked Rapi + DrakeT with unlinked Helm p4

it solves the Pascal issue

[gritty ridge]

There is only 2 units that would link over helm

And one of them is on scar team

[placid bloom]

well it's time to start rolling Atk lines then

or you can wait until December for XMaid

[gritty ridge]

She is tbh, but I need her

[unique wagon]

Btw champions arena already has 10+ beta seasons

[gritty ridge]

Beta seasons?

[gritty ridge]

[placid bloom]

2.5RL indom is passable, problem is MMast will instantly mis-indom if they swing into you with Scarlet

so you get to FB but Bready dies

and now you have just MMast trying to solo full enemy team

[gritty ridge]

A pirate captain goes down with her ship

Yeah bready indom only works if mast is linked

Against scar at least

[placid bloom]

with 2 attackers that is not happening unless you gimp your PvE

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, and nobody is as good a battery as helm

Doomed team

30% atk bready would be good for it too

[placid bloom]

there is also this garbage

[gritty ridge]

[placid bloom]

which I don't recommend