pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Too much chatting I forgot to kick the new C3 guy back to c5.

These guys lived a good life in another bracket. Being so bricked but still higher point than me.

[keen vapor]

interesting reasoning

[vapid lake]

We actually did the math

[keen vapor]

Knowing that I don't have Ein invested I'll probably be stuck when still lower than 500 synch

Maybe even 521

Where's #1229775845334319185

Yup, reachable big spike on Jan

[swift mango]

then invest in ein.

[keen vapor]

14 rocks left

[vapid lake]

go do ur own math for ur own situation

Retro has 3000 hours of boxes so if he hoards until jan he gains 7 more levels

Supposedly

[keen vapor]

I have same amount

Ok, 2978 cases but still

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel if you hoard till next batch of chapters in November you will get extra core dust

How's your pvp investment 🫵

[vapid lake]

I opened everything after i hit 90/hr, if i hoard until jan i will gain 9 sync level. If i open all my boxes to pass mc in october (lv 481) i will gain 6 sync level but enjoy 3 months of 102 cd to gap all the other guys in my bracket who are still stuck in ch29 hard

Easier for me to calculate because i have no hoard

I dont have to factor in hoard

[lunar pawn]

they started coordinating, and they're not even in the same union

[keen vapor]

Did he count 2h cases though? @fathom rock did you?

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Im assuming he added up all boxes of all different values, surely retro cant be that dumb to not do that

[covert lintel]

take back

[keen vapor]

I have 3500 core dust then

[lunar pawn]

@frank flare @kindred flare

[keen vapor]

You found them

[lunar pawn]

Idk did I

[keen vapor]

Same server as you?

[covert lintel]

You sure they are not impostor?

[lunar pawn]

one's global so a little sus

[keen vapor]

Then no

[vapid lake]

randomly pinging ppl

[keen vapor]

He learned from me

@pierot

[lunar pawn]

poor f2p can't earn the biweekly gems in peace

[keen vapor]

My current roll targets are Mihara and Asuka due to my expectation of never be able to invest absolute

[vapid lake]

wait i actually calculated wrong, i used 92cd/hr for table 1

[swift mango]

Finally beating MW 340 Tetra with this team, I am so resetting Alice on next skill reset.

[vapid lake]

now it's correct, 90 cd/hr vs 102 cd/hr

[swift mango]

112*

[vapid lake]

Ok echo it might be more beneficial for me to hoard until jan too

But i dont know the situation of the other ppl in my bracket if they hoard or not

[keen vapor]

if I read this correctly

Does it gets 11 levels more than not hoarding?

[vapid lake]

Because if they dont hoard then it is better for me to open boxes to pass mc in october/november

[clear vessel]

I dont wanna talk about it

[keen vapor]

my jackal has elemental black lines too

[swift mango]

Hoard and lose c3 down to c4 mean you lose 12 hours dust, credit, exp every 2 weeks.

[swift mango]

Give me that

[vapid lake]

The difference is 6 levels

[swift mango]

[vapid lake]

If open everything to hit 102 cd/hr by october new chapter

[clear vessel]

My Jackal has none, my Noah on the other hand...

[keen vapor]

Right right I'm getting blind

[vapid lake]

But tbh i didnt factor in the fact that leveling up goes up to 14k cd per level at 501 so its probably smaller

Im dividing core dust by 13k

[keen vapor]

MY JACKAL HAS MORE DPS POTENTIAL THAN ....... wait, she only has black ele, not attack

[keen vapor]

Black charge speed?

[keen vapor]

Narohodo

[vapid lake]

i'll decide what to do when october arrives,i need to try and figure out if my sp arena people are hoarding or are they opening everything as soon as they get it

[clear vessel]

Black ele > black atk

[vapid lake]

Need to watch their levels closely for a few weeks

[covert lintel]

Is there new chapter in 3rd anniv?

[keen vapor]

Hero currently 488, he's definitely opening but still F2P

[vapid lake]

Well for u it dont matter but for me it matters

[quartz rover]

How do you counter biscuit

[keen vapor]

What did he meant by that

[vapid lake]

if my opponents are not hoarding i have to open and pass MC in october so i can gap them bigger

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor I could hoard. I have to make the calc tho to see if worth. Don't want to miss my solo raid museum rewards.

[covert lintel]

For me this absolute story kinda boring

[keen vapor]

Museum, campaign, event so much to do and read

[swift mango]

CP huge.

[vapid lake]

Museum i could afk forever and the other people in my group wouldn't be able to catch up to me

[quartz rover]

Can I beat the cuit with the drunken scarlet

[vapid lake]

None of them play the game

[keen vapor]

But I felt totally immersed on Nikke universe

So much squads at the same time did make it feel more real

[quartz rover]

This dude is a sr15 crown haver. I despise him for being lucky

[keen vapor]

That's not luck, that's commitment

[quartz rover]

I wish my crown had a doll

Would help drastically for campaign

This team looks pretty slow but I have no idea how to deal with defender p1 defender p5 biscuit teams

[covert lintel]

I really don't know why they make stories like that
Iirc ark's nikke can't make decisions without commander
And yet absolute squad playing around without commander

[vapid lake]

Doesnt have noah so just wipe them with a nuke

[quartz rover]

Feel like it's easier to beat than this

[north brook]

Usually thats aoe wipe dps w/o noah, if its noah biscuit then u need to outstall with ur own often

[quartz rover]

Also peep this nerd with a sr15 jackal

[keen vapor]

You need a B2 that gives survivability taunt won't do it

[quartz rover]

Oh dw I didn't intend to use this team just wasnt sure about how to counter biscuit

[vapid lake]

Use a dps that skips p1 defender

[quartz rover]

How do you skip

[vapid lake]

Screenwipe nuke, or aoe autoattack

[keen vapor]

Read campaign again, their first appearance was exactly about them not needing commander

[quartz rover]

I have a Cindy and ein but Cindy isnt too built

Ein has 4 ol, sbs has 3 ol that are pretty good

[north brook]

Cindy doesnt need much

And ur only 200?

[quartz rover]

Yeah

[north brook]

She will delete

[keen vapor]

I'd trust Ein with Indom

[quartz rover]

Can't indom my ein

[keen vapor]

Then Cindy

[north brook]

Sync lower than 200 ppl used to use like

[keen vapor]

Like enfin said

[vapid lake]

Echo is nikke lore master ?

[north brook]

Harran/maiden

[crystal flicker]

So, to catch up for CD loses I need 2778 * 1H CD Box

[north brook]

Pitiful aoes

[keen vapor]

How I'm supposed to appreciate my chime then

[quartz rover]

How do I buff my cindy

[covert lintel]

Npc chime

[keen vapor]

I need to know lore to know every aspect of my Kisama

[keen vapor]

Shut

[keen vapor]

With Noise

[north brook]

Tbh she doesnt need any, just skill up if u somehow havent

[crystal flicker]

Noise and ELE lines

[keen vapor]

But if he has noise that's better burst gen than RH

[crystal flicker]

or Crit if you brave

[north brook]

Ya noise trina norm what ppl go now

[vapid lake]

No, u are the kisama

[covert lintel]

Miranda+

[crystal flicker]

So I was wondering for a bit

[quartz rover]

Something like this?

Will noise burst before the stun

[north brook]

Use more burst gen instead of rh siren prob

[quartz rover]

I can't

Its power padding

[vapid lake]

Then put siren p1 and let her eat the stun because ur opponent is like 5rl

They will burst next year

[north brook]

True

[vapid lake]

Actually u are too

[quartz rover]

Aren't I 4rl

[crystal flicker]

Cindy 100 ELE 0 ATK No Crit v Cindy 0 ELE 0 ATK 78% CritD

[north brook]

Thinking like its making a team for my sp with both being real comps xd

[vapid lake]

Idk but trina aloen isn't enough to carry the team's burst speed

[north brook]

Yeah if u have 2 clip rl should be around 3 at least

[quartz rover]

I can use jackal but rh would be burst 2

I plan on beating dudes other team with deficit

[north brook]

U want to drop rh siren and just quickly burst them down before they even can start

[quartz rover]

I cant drop them, I need 166k

For example

[north brook]

Ya hence want, may still function but u obv need some more invest to cindy team

[quartz rover]

Ill just use ein nuke

[crystal flicker]

Cindy 50 ATK 0 ELE No Crit

So ELE > Crit > ATK

[quartz rover]

Whoops, gotta move blanc

And jackal gets indom not ein

#no doll on jackal

Looking good?

[crystal flicker]

No Jackal Doll?

[quartz rover]

I have no rl dolls

[crystal flicker]

You need to compare Jackal and Ein HP

[quartz rover]

Jackal has like 20k more

My bad, 20k less not more

I like this spA more than my last

Way less people can contest the top few

Thanks for the training, I'm slowly understanding the pvp now

But its probably simple now, nobody is using Noah rn

[thin perch]

Are any of the new units PvP meta?

[vapid lake]

Vesti has huge potential but we wont know until shes actually released

All depends on how big her aoe autoattacks are (i.e if she can hit like 4 or even 5 units at once or only 2/3)

[thin perch]

Of course they added another whale to my pvp bracket why not

Thanks shift up

One wasn’t enough. They had to add ANOTHER whale to my bracket

Whales don’t deserve rights

[hushed lava]

I don't know what happened last flush, but now it's full of chinese with 40sync more than our previous top

our top 10 fell to 20 in a blink

[umbral belfry]

[thin perch]

Here’s hoping this guy isn’t actually good at PvP like the last one

But he’s got max core of all his display units which is scaring tf outta me

Right now he’s only 5 sychro above me so I’m not gonna just lose. Assuming he doesn’t invest everything into PvP units like I do I might have the advantage. I’m in 1st he’s in second

I’m also experiencing the rare instance of having more coredust than battle data right now at level 496

[misty finch]

Does this win? not sure if I win the scarlet mirror

[grim grove]

I literally don’t understand PVP at all. I’m literally 25+ levels ahead of this person. I used the same exact attack team as his defense. All of my characters have overload gear and most are at least 7/7/7 and I have more cores than every one of his character characters except 1, and I still lose

[thin perch]

If it’s a mirror match it usually comes down to rng unless you severely outlevel them. Especially if both teams are nuking at the same time.

[grim grove]

Can you explain the mirror matching? Does that mean when I’m making defense teams I need to assume my burst is coming from the opposite direction.

[thin perch]

No “mirror match” just means you have the exact same team comp

[misty finch]

nvm I just CP supressed them

[grim grove]

Oh yeah, it just blows my mind. I can’t get past this team unless he’s super invested in his overload gear. I still thought I would have the advantage with 25+ levels 2 level 15 cubes and more cores I even have like 100 thousand more CP and they still beat me

[misty finch]

Might be down to team postitioning, there's stuff like your opponents potentially getting more burst gen if you've put a taunt unit in the middle

[grim grove]

Yeah, maybe that’s the one problem with mirroring the team you’re fighting they could have a set up for defense, depending on where the taunt character is. I just thought I would overpower them lol because I don’t know how to make teams for PVP. Even though I’ve been playing for a a year and a half

[misty finch]

Yeah there's some articles you can read on prydwen that teach you how PvP works but it is kinda a lot

[clear vessel]

@keen vapor Just did my calcs. Won't hoard. I gain 2 levels on best scenario if I start hoarding today, but I miss on hitting 521 early and pushing further to 35. Your situation is likely different, since I have exactly zero dust boxes.

It did motivate me to go buy the upper 30 day supply tho.

[keen vapor]

Makes sense, you're already above Mirror Container by 2 chapters already

Enjoy those 102 core dust per hour early

[covert lintel]

Why hoarding

[keen vapor]

For extra levels

Did you see that @coarse lake ? I finally did it

Hoarding being optimal

[haughty mortar]

Can someone please assist me with PVP Rookie? #team-building message I posted it in team build by mistake. Don't wanna repost it. Unless it'd be better.

[covert lintel]

Rush level until you clear 40-35 hard, then you can efficiently hoard

[coarse lake]

that's only bc of the 10 cd jump ok

[keen vapor]

[haughty mortar]

When can I successfully start using the PVP nikke over PVE ones? I really wanna use Scarlet x Trina

[covert lintel]

Which pve?
I used scar trina in UR

[keen vapor]

When you base overload corresponding PVP units

Overload is main fire power source

[haughty mortar]

.............I am still busy OLing PVE units doe ><

[covert lintel]

And sometime in tower ig

[keen vapor]

Base overload why people level up gear after overload

[haughty mortar]

Because upgrading gives stats

[raven plover]

same I used moran and rosanna for tetra whale 580 blue cp

[gritty ridge]

Poor guy

[keen vapor]

Few stats

[haughty mortar]

Stats are stats brother

Still so what is being recommended?

[haughty mortar]

I am using Drake and SBS

[north brook]

Rookie will always be jackal helmt noah

Then u choose last 2

[haughty mortar]

I don't have Noah

[keen vapor]

Rip

[haughty mortar]

So you're saying my current team is as good as I can have it?

[north brook]

Prob need to go blanc then

[keen vapor]

You don't have ice maiden either

[final wedge]

guys? we are keeping the bug hidden right?

[keen vapor]

I found out so I consider it as a no

[final wedge]

aw cmon 😦

[keen vapor]

Neither do I talk about it everyday

[keen vapor]

Valco, which version sounds better either or neither version

My final spin on my communication Valco, take it or leave it

[final wedge]

ok ill not gonna bring it here then.....its better if it stay a "secret"

as a person who "kinda" like a breather in PVP this is good

[covert lintel]

What bug

[keen vapor]

We don't talk about it Rakuen

That's the first rule about the PVP club

💪

[coarse lake]

it's prob best if they fix bug asap

[covert lintel]

Are you even doing pvp right now?

[keen vapor]

If they fix bug asap they'll break something else

[coarse lake]

otherwise you'll see pve-built players suddenly demolishing your defenses due to their poorly built vesti killing more than half of your units before they can burst

[keen vapor]

I have to cook CA again

[coarse lake]

there is a very very good chance the bug applies to vesti

[final wedge]

those interns are really2 good doing the coding job

[keen vapor]

Shift Up, no

[quick lake]

Im in a new bracket

[umbral crown]

you would be 421 if you were still hoarding

[rose oracle]

I got two new whales, one of which is a multiple time ca winner

[quick lake]

[rose oracle]

like wtf su

I'm only sync 313 I can't fight this

[acoustic light]

@clear folio ur famous

[umbral crown]

just trust the process

[vapid lake]

Echo why tf did u ping that malogro guy to tell him to hoard when he's already 102 cd

Rude

[rose oracle]

the 2 new whale pushed retro down to 7th

[clear vessel]

In Echo's defense I'm not 102....yet

[rose oracle]

whales should be put with whales and f2p with f2p su plz make sp arena fair

[vapid lake]

Get it asap especially if the other guys in the bracket are not there yet

10 core dust difference per hour is very big

[umbral crown]

need to mald again

@polar echo you C8

Starf and Sogoo doing some move

[keen vapor]

No, he's not 102 yet, he's not on ch 36 hard

[keen vapor]

I wish I was getting 102 wipeouts

[covert lintel]

Are you in sea or global?

[final wedge]

somehow im still chilin in my bracket

[vapid lake]

well i do have a somewhat new bracket but there's been no movement yet, its kinda scary how quiet it is

[final wedge]

purposely 3rd....but my 1st and 2nd still under fire......those mf below me doesnt even care to hit me

[vapid lake]

No attack no nothing

If this turns out to be a bracket where all the ppl are waiting to attack 1 minute before reset i'm just gonna

[worn ivy]

lietrally got shuffled into whales with ove 100kCP over me, thanks game

[quick lake]

Global. First time big SP change

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

All my bracket sweaty hitters got split

[eager mountain]

we likely should have a feedback saying that spa regroup is too toxic

always gets more and more whale

ye they dont want it to lose compeitiveness overtime due to player dropping the game, but this is just bs, every top10 will be eventually all mega whales

[umbral crown]

be the whale

[covert lintel]

that means global has so many players unlike sea
My bracket only adds 1 whale into the top 3

[quick lake]

u da whale

🐳

[atomic wolf]

We've got a city to burn @smoky snow

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/f2p-btw-gif-22074314

[scarlet adder]

i woke up and created this abomination

[keen vapor]

That Rapi will die

[scarlet adder]

nahhh she stronk 😄 but yeah probably

[vapid mica]

what is soda pvp investment?

[wise horizon]

how can i improve on T2? thought i had it there

[keen vapor]

1/1/1

So 4/4/4 to pad firepower

[vapid mica]

what about doll and overload line

sr5?

[keen vapor]

If you can spare resources

[vapid mica]

do u think this is enough bc im gonna have to build sanis when she rerun and rosanna too

[keen vapor]

Overload is mostly whatever you get first try if at least 2 lines

Except for the fact that Soda will want more attack than Trina to get linked with jackal (if you do that variant) and have better survivability than if lower attack than Trina

But this isn't really a must do

People already done Scarlet Soda Trina without jackal even (on CA)

[keen vapor]

Using only blue ideally shouldn't get you below 200 blue kits left

If you start on R doll ofc

[vapid mica]

erm i dont ahve trina yet

[keen vapor]

Should you use Soda then is the question

[vapid mica]

[keen vapor]

If Cinderella didn't had terrible burst gen it'll be an option

[vapid mica]

aight

is soda only work good with trina scarlet?

[keen vapor]

I think you shouldn't yet

[keen vapor]

Is the only team that's fast enough, won't require B1 buffing and benefits from stunning whoever is taunting

[spare nimbus]

I have such a cursed pvp bracket bro 💀💀 literally kept all the top players from last season and brought in some more crazy players from another

[keen vapor]

I don't know how well this can go however

[spare nimbus]

I think its time i give up on pvp this rotation

[keen vapor]

If Centi dies is very likely to not burst in time

[vapid mica]

what about rosanna tho should i build her first and soda later on?

[keen vapor]

The magic of reshuffle

[keen vapor]

Rosanna can work on PVP-SG team or DPS Blanc team

HOWEVER

Rosanna and Soda are like day and night in investment

Soda is essentially the cheapest unit to build while Rosanna is one of the most expensive ones

[vapid mica]

does pvp bracket ever change the players in it?

[keen vapor]

It just did today

It changes every 3 months

[vapid mica]

oh so that's why there's suddenly a lvl 350 guy in my bracket and the top 3 guy is nowhere to be seen 💀

[keen vapor]

Won't necessarily change everyone

Sometimes you can ever only notice 1 change

[keen vapor]

Yeh, I got big whale as well

He's 70 levels over me

Oh wait, won't use core dust cases

90 levels over me then

[vapid mica]

he's 20 lvl over me but i wonder why he's not attacking yet

[keen vapor]

That's low diff defeatable easily

[vapid mica]

i mean he probably hasnt used core dust cases i did

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Have hope

Also be sure to buy event's stamina with gems once hard mode is released in 7 days along with Vesti @vapid mica

[vapid mica]

yeah i always do

[keen vapor]

Good

[swift mango]

There is also 2rl cindy.

[keen vapor]

I did show up that comp

But I don't trust centi surviving

Only Scarlet

[swift mango]

you want cp patching regardless for spa, and my rosa cp much higher.

[dense moss]

Hey, what are the absolute best 3 meta teams at the moment?

[keen vapor]

List of top teams are pinned

You can't really do top 3 with rock paper scissors

[onyx scaffold]

disgusting

[shell hazel]

the mihara bug 😄

[keen vapor]

There may be different kind of rocks, but all are beaten by some kind of paper

Only big rock (whaling) can stay unbeatable

[dense moss]

Oh, okay, thanks, my bad

[keen vapor]

Nandayo :noahoro:

[swift mango]

gemming stay up 24/7

[shell hazel]

top 4 should still be OK until they shuffle more whales into my bracket

[keen vapor]

Lie

Gemming requires self to do attack back

People do need to sleep

Is not 24/7

[shell hazel]

2 and 3 are whales lots of cores/outfits/more sync than me

[swift mango]

sleep is for the weak! (I'm weak)

[keen vapor]

Good night

[shell hazel]

those won't save me 😄

i'm actually out of battle data more than anything atm, and when I get enough of that I have to open credit cases

guy in 2nd is sync 396, guy in 3rd is 382, I'm 367 :9

one of them has 133 nikke in synchro (yes they bought all the slots lol)

[onyx scaffold]

red is me

[swift mango]

one whale who quitted and one 601 guy that's barely beat able.

[shell hazel]

what is the number on the right?

[keen vapor]

Not all

There's more than 140 nikkes

[keen vapor]

Challenger #

[onyx scaffold]

stable rank

[shell hazel]

they have 133 in sync and 143 in total so yeah missing a few

i'll keep trying to stay near the top despite presumably spending less, I invested a lot of resources so I think I can stay competitive a while

[onyx scaffold]

my tracking sheet is like this
top 3 guys got removed and they added one guy to it.

this means i dont have reason to open cd cases

[shell hazel]

damn 690 sync vanished 😄

or 727

I'm still opening mine for now as I want 381/401 for other reasons

[onyx scaffold]

727 yeah

[shell hazel]

pushing hard mode more, keeping up with the SPA as much as I can

[onyx scaffold]

that is for you

for my bracket...

everyone can clear latest hard chapter

so it is about swiping cd daily

[shell hazel]

yeah no reason then

[onyx scaffold]

[shell hazel]

I'll hoard a bit nearer the next chapters again

[onyx scaffold]

hmm

u know next chapter in 11 weeks

can you survive without opening cases?

[shell hazel]

I want to push hard mode a bit further, I think I can stop at 381

then hoard and aim for 401 with cases

I have enough cd to hit 370, just lack the others

[onyx scaffold]

it is funny that the whales in my former bracket started buying cd cases before we got reshuffle

[shell hazel]

I try not to do that I just get routine packs and deals

usually skin passes, the event packs ($20 one) and if there is a step up I do like step 1 / step 2 (not inc free ones)

ah yeah so the guy at 2 woke up lol, as you can see max core everything

i'm still in range at 580K+ basically but at 401 they get another boost

[swift mango]

If he starts gemming and online most of the day you won't stand a chance.

[shell hazel]

I consider it a win if I can make them gem

I can just hit before the reset and they have to gem to get 1 back then

[swift mango]

Some people doesn't care about a few gem like my Gemmer

[shell hazel]

sure but gotta let them know I am there 😄

their teams, I'm in cp range of them all

I think t2 loses to 2RL noah/cindy

t1 2RL scar

yeah it does, I'll probably just have to hit em twice a day assuming no one else is trying to hit me :p

[onyx scaffold]

i thought u were kidding but i realize this just now

time to wait out

it take 4.6 days to gather enough data per level...

[shell hazel]

I need about what you have there per level at 367

55 million odd

[crystal flicker]

What your other comp tho

My CA comp consist of 2RL Scarlet, 2RL SG Sacc, 2.5RL Cindy, 2.5RL Stall, and 2.5RL Blanc

[shell hazel]

I was trying to run similar think I was struggling to get the blanc to 2.5RL 😛

even with ole jackal

[scarlet adder]

do i win this?

[shell hazel]

think I wound up somewhere between 2.5 and 3RL

[shell hazel]

2RL scar with siren would work I think unless noise taunts the stun

noah stunned means no protection for Helm so they'd be unable to burst if you one tap her

[scarlet adder]

i dont have it 😄 i need to know if this specific thing will win

rapi will have indo and i wonder if she will kill everything while indo

[shell hazel]

you burst in time according to that

maybe so

[scarlet adder]

ok i will try by the end of day to not risk for nothing

[shell hazel]

you could run jackal as well bit might speed you up too much

crown is high feed

[scarlet adder]

this trashes him i think

even cp is bad for him

[crystal flicker]

I hate those graphics

Naga feed

[scarlet adder]

yeah i know that's why alice p5

seems easy that previous one will be interesting

ok now i am worried that my blanc i useless with how buffy my rapi is, does it work if my rapi is on 80% hp but that is bigger than 100% of biscuit lets say then biscuit gets indom?

[shell hazel]

it's remaining hp. with jackal link you can usually dictate it by adding vigor cubes where needed

check who links and check how much hp they start with, jackal is generally high hp so sometimes you need to add vigor to the 3rd unit in the link

[scarlet adder]

ok this might do it, now i need to change team against scar

even if helm burst it will hit helm and noah not bursting because of stun

[grand plaza]

Do I have a chance against this guy by adjusting the teams? 3rd team basically dud btw

[scarlet adder]

hmmm

i feel like his team so slow that there is no point in bay

never mind SR are attacking p5 hmmm

[hollow lagoon]

Another CA

Yay…….

@shell hazel end me already

[scarlet adder]

i will go with this

[shell hazel]

tell me what teams you putting down and in which order I will end you 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Same as last round?

[scarlet adder]

here end me 😄 i woke up and made it in 5 minutes 😄

[shell hazel]

haha I jest, I don't want to win because I know what you're sending tbh, more fun if I wind up winning with pure RNG

inject the RNG straight into my veins

[hollow lagoon]

Bruh u know what I woke up to

[shell hazel]

I am not sure but I woke up to being 2nd in SPA for the first time in like 4 months

as predicted

def skill issue 😄

cindy p2

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna remove img

[shell hazel]

cindy p2 not the worst but damn

it's not ideal either especially in rookie when you can send anything

[shell hazel]

do you lack all the meta units?

you can do OK as no cp gap, just with the right comps at least

[hollow lagoon]

The problem is the Cindy p2 prob let opponent reach his RL

and block Cindy burst

[shell hazel]

cindy running into noah is never usually recommended

it begins Zant

[hollow lagoon]

I gave bro the generic scarlet 2rl and he send it and it won

[hollow lagoon]

The Chinese guy’s name is a word play on President Xi of China by the way

[scarlet adder]

hmm? what all i have like biscuit,cindy,trina,centi,rumani i would not be so harsh 😄

[shell hazel]

I think my SPA is 7 CN/JP bros in my top 10 lol

[shell hazel]

I mean are you missing any key units?

like which pvp meta units do you lack?

there's not normally a good reason to send maxwell etc

[scarlet adder]

scar, noah the most

[shell hazel]

no noah = 2RL bay cope

no scar = gg

[hollow lagoon]

Bro prob just yolo CA, @scarlet adder prob got 5 wins under his belt and is bored af

[scarlet adder]

my first CA but seeing teams i was betting on i don't feel like i can compete 😄

[iron jungle]

Hi guys, sorry to interrupt. Could I please get some help?

Who should be in my synchro device for PVP?

[shell hazel]

lack of scarlet will hurt a bit

[iron jungle]

I know it's a big question sorry guys.

[hollow lagoon]

When I see no Trina I flip out and scream

[iron jungle]

Sorry.

[scarlet adder]

my box

[hollow lagoon]

Actually

@iron jungle has a pertty good box for his sync

[shell hazel]

I can maybe check it later on will be some hours away, but you don't need to set teams yet

can set at reset or after it

[scarlet adder]

sure

[shell hazel]

remind me in about 6 hours from now if I forget

I'm at work atm can't just casually make teams 🙂

gotta earn my $'s to pay shiftup with

[scarlet adder]

me too 😄 my sprint just started so i can still chill 😄

[shell hazel]

look at the booba guy @hollow lagoon looks pretty damn whaley to me (check my cores compared to theirs!)#pvp-arena message

[scarlet adder]

i feel like in a month i will have quite a lot of those, maybe scar or noah will drop if i am lucky

[hollow lagoon]

Bobby guy is XI

@iron jungle

[shell hazel]

might be with their spending power 😄

[crystal flicker]

Ever since I put this on my bio, ppl've started DM'ing me for PvP advice, yet they won't give me those stuffs smh

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait u have jackal?

[shell hazel]

I wish you were in my CA not this other whale, we'd chill and co-ordinate

[crystal flicker]

Whale can suck my ass in CA

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/plum-eating-plums-figs-eating-figs-bj-gif-9666415404338369693

[iron jungle]

Ty... 🙏

I appreciate it bro 😁

[hollow lagoon]

4rl is a bit on the rough side

But I don’t got much to work with

[onyx scaffold]

plz send me SpA teams that can defend against people with 20-30 levels higher. thank you

note: they also invest in pvp units

[crystal flicker]

20-30 is easy tho

[runic coral]

what would you guys change here

[onyx scaffold]

i dont think it is easy but ik some of you can make it possible

[crystal flicker]

Plz send comp 2 win against this mf

[shell hazel]

you will actually need 2 comps to combine into one team of 10 to win

with that cp

[crystal flicker]

It's returnee acc

[hollow lagoon]

Other than the sanis being in Cinderella team and that your scarlet have a chance of being dead before bursting seems fine?

Is sanis output as off burst valid? I don’t have her I Wouldent know

[runic coral]

I can put anything there really, sanis just has good cp

[hollow lagoon]

Bro u got gapped harder than me gaping my bracket wtf….

And here I was this morning turning some PvP unit gear pink thinking how rough my bracket have it but damn

[runic coral]

today I was pleasently surprised that the 2 leviathans that have been dominating my bracket for half a year disappeared

[hollow lagoon]

Might still come back on next reshuffle

[runic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

[hollow lagoon]

U global?

[runic coral]

yea

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait ur account is wait older than mine so you can’t have lost me

[runic coral]

I started post 1.5 ani

[hollow lagoon]

Def way older

I’m started half way thru 2.0

[runic coral]

I remember fighting one single whale when I was new

he stopped playing and got replaced by leviathans :(

[hollow lagoon]

Rough

[runic coral]

at least I can finally enjoy 1 season of 2nd place

before they come back

[shell hazel]

yeah I suppose if the shuffles are better we may actually get moved about a bit, otherwise you get stuck behind the same people forever

mine is 4 of us all probably capable of being 1st spot 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Just seems I’m being merged with older people

[shell hazel]

at least I can maintain CA easily enough for now I think unless someone gets an amex black card out who is lower down

1-4 will be contested but I'm confident I can stay top 3

[strange rain]

Can someone help me build teams for ca please

[hollow lagoon]

Man the weekend after dis is Missiles tower whale

[shell hazel]

I will re-consider how much I want to invest in the pvp CA specific units though as I mainly do that because I get to use them in CA

my SPA teams I'm cool with bumping up power on

if 2 more whales enter next shuffle I could be yeeted down to 5-6

[hollow lagoon]

Lel my bay ain’t even in pink gear

[shell hazel]

I don't really have anywhere to run Bay

it's more for stuff like SG comp

[hollow lagoon]

Only CA really unless i wanna get rid of cat for bay

But I like cat

[shell hazel]

nah cat is the better stall version imo

bay is the not got cat to invest in version or don't want to spend the high skill costs

[hollow lagoon]

But bay is hot

[shell hazel]

that is accurate

you got a point

[hollow lagoon]

Not saying cat is not hot

Cat reload is one of them better reloads

[shell hazel]

anyway we're drowning out poor Jay's request sorry @strange rain

maybe someone can answer you

I got some stuff to get on with so back in a bit

[hollow lagoon]

No Noah?

[strange rain]

nope

[hollow lagoon]

Treasure helm is impressive tho

I’m guessing Moran investment is low?

[strange rain]

0 lol

[hollow lagoon]

I ain’t the best but it’s what I got u wanna make sure mana and helm have higher ho than redhood tho, prob vigor cube

[fiery parcel]

Are my teams correct?

[digital fractal]

any tips on beating this?

[hollow lagoon]

Are u confident ur indom can down a biscuit Noah team?I wide upgrade your scarlet team to 2 rl to kill their team 1, then use Cindy Noah biscuit to kill their team 2, team 3 ignore

Ur Cinderella team is not fast enough for their scarlet team u will die

[fiery parcel]

Definitely not. But usually i play noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani against scar trina

But there's rosanna, so im not sure this time

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like a easy win for 2rl scarlet to me, or 2rl-3rl Cindy nuke, given their base is 3rl, maybe u can siren the scarlet

[digital fractal]

siren the scarlet?

[hollow lagoon]

I say u 2rl murder their Cindy with a boosted scarlet, 3rl Cindy nuke their indom, 3rd team u can forget about it cuz u prob already won

[digital fractal]

do you have some sample units for those comps?

[digital fractal]

and if I dont have scar built?

[hollow lagoon]

Then build

Ur sync 500

Couple days of resource

[digital fractal]

no dupes of scar shouldnt matter right?

[hollow lagoon]

Have u tried 2rl Cindy Noah it?

[digital fractal]

cindy biscuit noah

or is that considered 3rl

[onyx scaffold]

u need helm treasure

[digital fractal]

cindy biscuit helm noah

[hollow lagoon]

Might as well force enemy to 2.5/2rl to get caught by Noah

[digital fractal]

this team didnt burst fast enough

[hollow lagoon]

Is this one time Cindy p2 is a positive?

[hollow lagoon]

Ur saying their 3 rl burst faster than your 2rl?

[digital fractal]

correct...

[hollow lagoon]

Can u screen what u used?

[digital fractal]

I can on my phone

[hollow lagoon]

Is your helm treasured?

[digital fractal]

nono it was the other team that got cooked

the scar team

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet team died then mermaid over feeeeed

Well then use Cindy

[onyx scaffold]

jackal blanc centi trina scarlet

[onyx scaffold]

i suggest focusing on beating 2 teams

[digital fractal]

team worked lmao thanks

[covert lintel]

poli entered the battle
How would i win this

[worthy knoll]

Why you recommend mermaid when Jack feed gen is bugged

[hollow lagoon]

Was feeling mermaid could stun, and their team is 3rl at base

[onyx scaffold]

round 2 looks slow.
if blanc buffs sbs then u might lose
round 3 is also slow but u might win tho

i would play it safe by putting centi in round 2. helm in round 3

[worthy knoll]

Whats the point of stunning if he has no Scar after Rosanna burst

[hollow lagoon]

Figure 2rl with feed would burst faster than 3rl with feed

I don’t know everything

[onyx scaffold]

what bug?

[hollow lagoon]

I’m curious about the bug too

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

Oh fun

Well I wasn’t pinged so how would I know

But his jackal should also get feed by enemy rosana, some how the 2rl can’t out burst the 3rl

[worthy knoll]

No more link after Rosanna 10 bullet

[hollow lagoon]

Mg ramp up time is scary I guess

[fiery parcel]

Like this?

[hollow lagoon]

Right I forgot my bad

[fiery parcel]

Im just scared of the rosanna in t3

[hollow lagoon]

No

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet on team 1

Cindy on team 2

[covert lintel]

No poli

[fiery parcel]

Scarlet can win against noah biscuit cindy?

[digital fractal]

ty for the advice @hollow lagoon

[fiery parcel]

Ive always lose last time

But yes can try

Lemme swap again

[covert lintel]

Who's the creator of this nikkework @tropic summit

[robust lodge]

I swear every month or so I get pitted with 10 new players in my arena server who are like 50 levels up on me even though I've played near daily since I joined. Is there a strat to change my arena server to compete with levels closer to my player level or below lol?

[onyx scaffold]

yes

[covert lintel]

I hope he adds poli

[fiery parcel]

Im confused lol. @onyx scaffold and @hollow lagoon giving very different setups

[hollow lagoon]

Your team could be valid? If your Noah is 2rl

[onyx scaffold]

because a team can be beaten in many ways (idk his setups tho)

[fiery parcel]

This is @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

I’m just surprised ur double boosted scarlet lose to Cindy comp

[onyx scaffold]

yes i think this should also work in round 1 and 2

[onyx scaffold]

if enemies have charge speed investment, u will lose tho

[fiery parcel]

Not sure, but yes. Ive lost scar trina jackal to noah biscuit cindy many times

[scarlet adder]

what aoe attacked just before scar nuke? in 3rd fight

[hollow lagoon]

Ur old comp was 3 rl tho

[fiery parcel]

My team setup ia usually like as u see, but i swap them ard depending on who.

[onyx scaffold]

when noah and rumani have charge speed, noise will burst before ur nuke drops so u will lose

[fiery parcel]

Yeah because im not sure how to fight rosanna

The last few times i fought ros, ive always died

So this time im a bit more careful

[hollow lagoon]

Well u can send and find out if they have enough chargespeed

Or u can do ur origional team like @onyx scaffold suggested, im not really the best person on the planet

Always take other’s advise before me

[fiery parcel]

Ok. But thanks for th advise to both of you

How does ros kill btw?

[hollow lagoon]

Question, what if say, my own scarlet’s team also have chargespeed

[hollow lagoon]

High damage nuke targeting 2 highest attack unit

[fiery parcel]

Does it bypass indom?

[hollow lagoon]

No

[onyx scaffold]

i use one team as example here.

if your trina has CS, the speed is still 2RL
if all 3 RL have good CS and RH has decent CS (sniper has no delay when releasing shot so u don't need as much CS as RL)
then you can nuke before enemy 2RL by a few frames

[hollow lagoon]

Ur problem is catching the Rosa burst before your indom happen

[quick lake]

a 0.5RL difference just means that B1 happen before opponent B3. more cs% difference just means that B1 might not be in time

[fiery parcel]

Rosa is a b2?

[shell hazel]

rosa is b1

[hollow lagoon]

Cool

[hollow lagoon]

That means 3rl-2.5 Noah couldn’t drop invuln in time to intercept 2rl scarlet regardless?

[onyx scaffold]

2.5RL noah only means that the b1 will burst before 2RL scarlet nuke

[scarlet adder]

do i win?

[onyx scaffold]

noah might or might burst on time depending on CS

[hollow lagoon]

its unlikely to assume 1 team has fully invested cs and the other team have no cs at all tho

[scarlet adder]

so no?

[onyx scaffold]

i won't answer. feel free to ping mod

[scarlet adder]

i am not that pity :p but if you laugh i tough i lose

[hollow lagoon]

wot's the context?

[scarlet adder]

he laughed at my question

[hollow lagoon]

wot wus the question?

[scarlet adder]

@hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

which one is you team?

[scarlet adder]

the faster one

attacking one

scarletless one

[hollow lagoon]

ur alice is hitting p5 so idk how ur gonna win?

[quick lake]

Yep exactly. No amt of cs% can make 3RL Noah catch 2RL scar nuke

[hollow lagoon]

thanks

[onyx scaffold]

how about 2.5RL noah?

[scarlet adder]

by surviving and killing everything?

[scarlet adder]

i can try ein also

[hollow lagoon]

bro send it and let us know

single boosted scarlet may not get through a good bay + biscuit yes

i just have trauma regarding eating scarlet bursts, it usually dont go well

but u have biscuit and bay

[scarlet adder]

yeahhh i tried before and randomly my bay in p2 got hit by some aoe (hittin all team) jsut before scar nuke and it decimated her cover dont know what happened

i was thinking Rl will not destroy it for sure but something else did and i don't know what

[hollow lagoon]

bay has damage share, and she takes more damage than rest of her teammates

its not a even damage split

its like rest of team take 15% and bay take 40% i recall?

[scarlet adder]

ahh ok i hope putting her further away helps

and i will try ein next time

maybe scar will just die

hmm but rapunzel ehhh

[hollow lagoon]

source from prydwen

[vestal wigeon]

how good is cindy for pvp? I've noticed a few teams use her as a screen wipe, so I was curious if I should include her in my teams considering she's one of my most invested units (for solo raids)

[hollow lagoon]

using cindy is better than not using cindy

for pvp, if that's what you mean

[crystal flicker]

She's good for PvP Nuke, esp if you can run her with 2RL comp

Her weakness is Noah or Stall comp

[vestal wigeon]

are stall comps like moran/biscuit who tank through immunity?

[crystal flicker]

Moran Nero + Healer & DPS

Moran alone won't tank a good investment Cindy

[vestal wigeon]

this is basically going on a tangent now lol, but my current team with moran is
moran - biscuit - sanis - pepper - centi

[quick lake]

Generally 2.5RL Noah cant catch 2RL Scarlet. The only exception is 25% cs Helm which is vvv rare either way. If ur 2RL Scar has some cs%, 25% cs helm is not enough as well. Best to think that 2.5RL Noah cant catch 2RL Scar nuke

[crystal flicker]

My stall only lose against Crit, Blanc RH, and Fully invested Cindy comp (100ELE 50ATK OL lv5+)

[quick lake]

Stall comps have been used more "loosely" recently, but i would think they refer specifically to Nero + Moran + Rapun teams

[crystal flicker]

It's rare to see stall lose against max core Cindy

[onyx scaffold]

how do i fix my helm

[vestal wigeon]

so would including nero and rapu be better for my current team with moran? // also back to my original question with cindy, I have Thelm and jackal for 2RL scarlet, are there any other comps I can use for cindy to reach 2RL (unfortunately I don't have emilia) or would I have to sacrifice the scarlet team for cindy

[crystal flicker]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani is 2RL

Scarlet doesn't need HelmT to reach 2RL if you use Jackal

[scarlet adder]

hmm i have different idea, he has low cp on this team so i will just build big cp jackal team and it should win maybe?

[hollow lagoon]

depends on how big

[vestal wigeon]

so now with that team, my scarlet team is
scar - trina - [helm was here] - rosanna - jackal
who would be a good replacement here?

[quick lake]

Its good enough alr tbh. 15% cs helm is fine, has good ele & atk

[quick lake]

Can always refer to pins for teams

[crystal flicker]

Depend on who you have ^

Also Anis is good battery

[scarlet adder]

if jackal gets invi from biscuit does it still atctivates its s1 while being hit?

[quick lake]

yep, still does

[crystal flicker]

I heard they fix that one

[scarlet adder]

so it is a bug? it should not work ?:D

[crystal flicker]

Idk how it works now tbh

But prev Jackal could get invuln and allies take the dmg from links

[hollow lagoon]

u did manage to cp gap them good job

[scarlet adder]

yeahh i hope this time it will work

[hollow lagoon]

make sure ur cubes are right for more gapping

[dense roost]

nero a little uninvested here, any replacements worth the salt or just vibe with it?

[crystal flicker]

What her skill level tho

If that's a new bracket, it probably fine

[dense roost]

all 4s

[crystal flicker]

Get Her S1 and Moran Burst to lv10

Tempering

[dense roost]

Will try it out, running a little bit of a different setup so unsure if it'll pay off

particularly the blanc/emilia/bisc/mihara/rumani setup

[crystal flicker]

Nero s1 lv 10 will gave her ~42% DMG Red
s1 lv 4 will only gave her ~31% DMG Red

That's big difference, not to mention Moran's burst

[glad meteor]

Moran bay?

[covert lintel]

Don't forget her s2
That's the most important for her to survive

[crystal flicker]

100% Nero DMG red consist of 42% S1, 17% SR15, 35% Moran Burst, 7.27% Tempering lv4
That's ~101.27%

S2 kinda RNG tho, but might help when you facing AR/SMG/MG

[glad meteor]

S2 help to tank sg, max hp buff

But if sg invested, nero can’t survive

[fathom rock]

@umbral belfry login and bio 2 different tales

[covert lintel]

camelott peeps

Oh wrong person

same vibe

[shell hazel]

621 with max cores

imagine all that time/money spent and you quitting 😄

I know it happens but damn

good news so far Zant my whale is only online sometimes

[hollow lagoon]

How does he know I’m reading

[fathom rock]

My moran is already working at 747 sr15 no ol

C4 soon

I'll hit 341 then push ch28h hmm

[hollow lagoon]

Man that solo raid info, I’m ever glad I raised my destruction cube to 7

[fathom rock]

What good is destruction cube if you do 1 dmg

[covert lintel]

Is it time already?

[haughty mortar]

Yo my doods

[hollow lagoon]

Breaking the part prevent xix’s def buff

[haughty mortar]

So until I start OLing my pvp units I am fkd?

[hollow lagoon]

Bracket dependent I say

[fathom rock]

But the parts naturally have high def

In hard campaign at 15% deficit still can't kill all 4 with rrh and destruction
Its vesti bait

I am afraid how this sr turns out

[haughty mortar]

Please assist: #team-building message

[hollow lagoon]

deficit

[covert lintel]

Of course it will buff absolute squad

[hollow lagoon]

Idk 40% stat nerf is not nothing just saying

[fathom rock]

Offense just adjust that def very low power
Even tho it's rookie means you'll lose in most cases anyway I'm thinking scar/trina/rh/helmT (or clip rl if that leads to scar not jack linking/jackal

[onyx scaffold]

login shows your timezone. bio says his timezone

[fathom rock]

I'm gonna check back tommorow

[onyx scaffold]

Is he still in union? U can check last login

[fathom rock]

He is in union

[haughty mortar]

Adjust how? Please help me noah!

[onyx scaffold]

Click to his union

[fathom rock]

It's just rock paper scissors against what you face
Scar nuke? Noah block
Stall? give up scar double buff
Noah + nuke? Time noah to block nuke and use units with consistent dps or delay a nuke
There is a lot of variations you can just show the team here

You can also use blanc indom to avoid nukes or counter stall

[fathom rock]

15h ago

[hollow lagoon]

@haughty mortar don’t mind my cubes, and u can replace rumani with Centi

[fathom rock]

550 daily pts

[hollow lagoon]

Looks easy af to beat?

Scarlet nuke them all

[fathom rock]

P1 cindy counter is use rl and don't be in a deficit
If have to deal with a deficit try keep under 20% and noah biscu stall them
All of these can be scar nuked if 15% or less diff lmao

[haughty mortar]

Don't have noah

I have biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t need Noah

[fathom rock]

Just scar if no deficit

Against siren check she have below 32 ammo

To avoid stun in 2rl

[haughty mortar]

With that team above I have over 50% deficit

[hollow lagoon]

Nah that team feed so hard scarlet prob burst first

[fathom rock]

Your scar team at 250k?

[hollow lagoon]

Bruh

[fathom rock]

No shot they all not ol

[haughty mortar]

Like from my P1 to my P3 I have an additional deficit of 150K

[hollow lagoon]

Bruh u get out padded this hard

Do u not put gear on things?

[digital whale]

How to team atk me lost

[fathom rock]

That's something to invest in
You can still counter all of these with biscuit jackal and 3 padders
The feed is so much

And can fight in a bit of a deficit

[hollow lagoon]

That’s not “a bit” of deficit tho

[vestal wigeon]

what's siren good for in pvp? I don't see any mention of her in the pins but I assume she's a good pick, what for exactly? she's highly invested so would be nice if I could use her in a good comp

[fathom rock]

Jack biscuit and 3 padders better not be in 50% lmao

[hollow lagoon]

Stun and side dps

[vestal wigeon]

is it a fast stun for like anti nuke/noah?

[hollow lagoon]

Your Trina prob died, bad positioning

[digital whale]

💀

[fathom rock]

You can run
Against t1 : noah/biscuit/helm/emi/rumani
Against T3 : scar/trina/rh/centi/jackal
In same order given

[hollow lagoon]

Usually can stun anything she shoot at if they are not 2rl speed?

[fathom rock]

Very easy wins aslong as you not above 15.6% cp diff

[haughty mortar]

I DO!

[fathom rock]

Her stun is around 3rl she stuns what she hits

[haughty mortar]

But some do not have gear. Still farming AI

[digital whale]

thank you

[hollow lagoon]

Ya out sync them and have half the cp, kinda rough, my man does not use redhood?

[fathom rock]

I'd assume she in 95k range

But rest in around 40k

[haughty mortar]

GIVE ME TIPS! So how can I update my team with what I have? Other than the 3 I highlighted, I crush them all

[hollow lagoon]

Change Centi for helm

To pad

[haughty mortar]

in my Team 1?

[hollow lagoon]

But scarlet gets unlinked and can die

[dense roost]

Probably will be running

Drake/bSoda/Viper/Rosanna/Noir
Noise/Noah/Centi/Siren/Cindy
Blanc/Emilia/Biscuit/RH/Jackal
Scarlet/Rumani/Trina/Anis/XMaiden
Nero/Moran/Helm/Rap/Lap+

for this CA

unsure on team 3/4 though

[hollow lagoon]

Wait u want 3 teams?

[haughty mortar]

Any way to replace Drake in my team?

No

[vestal wigeon]

so would siren work well if I did
scar - trina - rosanna - siren - jackal ?
sorry if I'm asking too much, I suck at brainstorming teams

[haughty mortar]

1 Attacker 1 Defender

[hollow lagoon]

No team too slow

[fathom rock]

I feel like sbs blanc helmT biscuit jackal absolutely demolish them if in cp range
But are they also check sbs less hp than helm

[hollow lagoon]

His helm is highest cp on his box prob fine

[white zephyr]

What's the pvp special arena meta? Peeps

[haughty mortar]

Yes HelmT has more HP

[fathom rock]

The meta is the one your bracket doesn't know to counter

[vapid lake]

Credit card

[fathom rock]

But the real meta is 💳

[haughty mortar]

Helm has 10K CP higher than next Nikke

[hollow lagoon]

No real meta, 2rl Rosa Scarlet, 2Rl Noah Cindy is what I would use, abondon team 3 for cp padding or something

[fathom rock]

Mfs cp padding enough to run scar ross double sac with mana lmao send help

[haughty mortar]

So replace Drake for RH?

[hollow lagoon]

I ain’t helping nobody I’m the evil it self

[swift mango]

Secret tech to make enemy bullet whisked

[quick lake]

[hollow lagoon]

[vestal wigeon]

then I suppose I wouldn't be able to include siren in my teams? currently it's
Noise - Noah - Cindy - HelmT - Rumani
Scar - Trina - Rosanna - Anis - Jackal
Blanc - SBS - Biscuit - Pepper - Centi

[fathom rock]

Someone how to counter scar mast ros mana jack without deficit

[onyx scaffold]

sac mast?

[fathom rock]

Ye lv1

[quick lake]

pure cp gap

lv1 low cp team

[glacial lion]

how to calc feed scar jackal ?

can 2rl scar reach 1.5rl with 1 sg feed*

[shell hazel]

I saw you replying to something lol

[quick lake]

sum of opp bullet / 10 * 3.55

[glacial lion]

lmao...

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/new-girl-witchcraft-winston-sorcery-gif-22394282

[glacial lion]

why sanis die???

[vapid lake]

Helm nuke jackal link, dmg share to 3 units

[hybrid fox]

@swift mango he hit another 20 milestone (581) at even level, the b.soda still works

[fathom rock]

Every 10 hit is 3.55 energy from Jack, scar feed is 30%xnumber of hitsx0.4 on avg

[haughty mortar]

Big boobs, nothing else

[hollow lagoon]

U can replace Rosa if ur on the cp padding mood if ur siren is invested

[glacial lion]

no, i saw her heal pop up

then she die...

[vapid lake]

Dying to jackal link is the only explanation there cant see anything else

[glacial lion]

i dont think helm nuke can triple kill without buffer

[quick lake]

Always could, helm OP

[vestal wigeon]

unfortunately they have the same cp since siren is 0 copies and rosa is c3

[fathom rock]

I did it before on siren as only buff

[glacial lion]

i dont wanna raise dmg reduce cube... sigh

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t raise tempura cube

[haughty mortar]

OK so I need to start investing in OL for PVP..........

[hollow lagoon]

I will after like destruction/resilliance/bastion are 7 and adjutant is like 7 then I’ll touch tempura cube

[haughty mortar]

But why am I struggling against this Recluse dood?

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

They use cp pad team try to use ur own pad

[quick lake]

pvp chat so chatty today

[fathom rock]

3sg hits is 30 hits and would be about 14.25 energy doubt that's enough considering you need 85.75 energy within 3sg time

[haughty mortar]

I AM!

Wait, you mean go full PVE ?

[hollow lagoon]

Raise ur sync level by 1 then full pve

[glacial lion]

cuz reshuffle? ppl in dead barrack out of meta for 3 months need help...

[quick lake]

Damn u’re right. Big SP change, wasnt just me indeed

[fathom rock]

Reshuffle completely brick me I don't have to think about that stuff

[haughty mortar]

Why can't my server just die out?

[hollow lagoon]

I want my server to die out too

[quick lake]

means ull be paired with bigger whales s

[fathom rock]

If it dies out, they will just reshuffle you with more whales

[glacial lion]

i need to put dmg reduce cube on 3 nikke or just main target helm burst hit?

is it diff?

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll spank him for you, I’ll do it gently

[rich ledge]

Any thoughts how to beat this? After the reshuffle this guy has taken my c4

[haughty mortar]

Naw naw just no one in pvp in my server. The dream! Or even the towers. So many try hards.

[hollow lagoon]

@haughty mortar WoT’s ur server number

[hybrid fox]

SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

[quick lake]

Dmg reduction cube not that effective. Helm will always snipe linked units. Just need to put on highest atk if u really want to

[fathom rock]

Wao T2 and t3 insane cp gap

[rich ledge]

Yea suddenly there's this new whale

[fathom rock]

Biscuit+defender is your only hope to survive this and I worry you have enough damage

[hollow lagoon]

U better be newer than 24200 or else u have a non zero chance of dealing with me

[haughty mortar]

ENG 10720

[hollow lagoon]

Oh not even global

[haughty mortar]

NA

[hollow lagoon]

Sry @fathom rock I can’t spank him

[quick lake]

T2 Noah bisc cindy possible

[haughty mortar]

[fathom rock]

You can swap jackal out in t1 to any other clip rl, and run against T2 : noah biscu sbs helm jackal, but you'd need to have a good amount of power, how much would it be?

[haughty mortar]

So for now what is my go to plan? Replace Drake with RH?

[fathom rock]

I feel we can be shuffled together

[haughty mortar]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fathom rock]

Where exactly I lost the plot

[hollow lagoon]

Get 1 more sync, go full pve and see if u can roll them

[haughty mortar]

Rookie PVP

[fathom rock]

What's the team

[hollow lagoon]

His opponents are full on pve teams, and his PvP team low cp, good news is he out syncs them

And his opponents use pve teams for PvP

[fathom rock]

I'm in 10507 hmm
Nah maybe you fine for a year

[swift mango]

Then just Crown+Biscuit+flexflexflex

[hollow lagoon]

His current sync is 300 so I suggest get 301 and steam roll then 286:

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[hollow lagoon]

Rapi crown+whatever’s yep

[swift mango]

I mean just beat PvE team with Crown+Biscuit+flex

[rich ledge]

It will be lower than current since no redhood

[hollow lagoon]

Nah that lower his cp, might be bad

Depending on his opponents

[fathom rock]

how much power Crown/biscuit/sbs/rh/helmt

[swift mango]

He has higher synch. So replace 1 biscuit wouldn't reduced his team by 16%

[vestal wigeon]

sorry to bring this back up, but if I replace rosanna with siren in this team, the deck builder says the team goes from 2.5RL to 2RL, is this reason enough to replace rosanna with siren? on top of my siren being more invested damage/skills/gear wise, she only loses to rosanna in cp because she's c3

[fathom rock]

yo I don't think you can beat the new whale

[placid bloom]

Scar Jackal doesn't need to be natural 2RL, it will reach 2RL with enemy feed

[hollow lagoon]

Nope, try quantum cube on Trina/centi/jackal to see if u go back to 2rl on Rosa

[quick lake]

Different functionality depending on ur needs. Siren stuns, Rosanna nukes. Can use whichever serves u better

[placid bloom]

speed will never be an issue for that team

[vestal wigeon]

so the builder doesn't take into account jackal and scar's skills? It's safe to assume they're basically always 2RL?

[placid bloom]

with triple clip yes

[rich ledge]

448,418,426,440 these are the 4 syncs of the whales the 1 I showed is 440

I'm f2p 394

[fathom rock]

@swift mango would crown biscu sbs helmT rh do enough dmg at 30% deficit to t3

[quick lake]

Yes, builder does not take into account Jackal skill. Generally if 92-93% burst gen at 2RL, can assume its 2RL

[dense roost]

Anyone got the builder link handy? Just want to check something on my phone

[vapid lake]

U lost the pvp reshuffle, no ca for u for 3 months

[fathom rock]

How much with jackal instead of rh?

[vapid lake]

shiftup wants u to start swiping and join them, will u do it??

[quick lake]

nikke-deck.web.app

[rich ledge]

613k

[fathom rock]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/ this?

[covert lintel]

You know the creator? @quick lake

[rich ledge]

Lowest sync whale has quite proper teams

[fathom rock]

your only hope is crown biscu sbs helmT rh against their 3rd team

And that is hyper copium

[quick lake]

Nope. Some CN/TW collaboration afaik

[vapid lake]

Cant wait for pvp chat to die again after a week once people accepted the reality of their new brackets

[quick lake]

The about page has a contact

[fathom rock]

You might actually have a winning chance

[quick lake]

Truth

[covert lintel]

It's in chinese so i skipped reading that

[rich ledge]

He looks quite well versed in pvp unlike the other guy probably will take back the spot fast

[swift mango]

No. 30% deficit and crown can be one shot throght biscuit. How is he higher synch with that bad CP on his PvE unit?

[rich ledge]

The other whale is just CP padding

[covert lintel]

he's on bilibili not discord

[quick lake]

Well, CN peep

[vestal wigeon]

ok so my current teams now are
Noise - Noah - Cindy - HelmT - Romani
Scar - Trina - Rosa - Anis - Jackal
Blanc - SBS - Biscuit - Pepper - Centi
I'm not very confident in the 3rd team because I don't have enough OL to reach 2.5RL, I'm thinking of just making it cp padding instead

[fathom rock]

Against t2
Noah biscu cindy helmT rumani
Against t1
Scar trina rh centi jackal
How much power?

If scar team above 614k should be a win

That cindy team can still work in light deficit

[swift mango]

Nothing changed in my bracket, at least for the top 3. New guys that got c2-4 in other bracket (saw them in CA) come and stayed C4+

[fathom rock]

Scar team against their sbs

Switch t1 and t3

[rich ledge]

Oo I can try that tmr I doubt I can hold the spot anyway tho

[fathom rock]

He will definitely beat you back

Question is when

[rich ledge]

Oh well then I can just sleep and invest in campaign and SR

[fathom rock]

[sleek root]

Thats not a whale

[fathom rock]

Just a light spender

[swift mango]

Not like you was main Arena in the past.

[shell hazel]

my resident whale trying a new def

[terse heron]

Is SU planning to fix all the double/triple effects?

[shell hazel]

I suppose he hasn't heard of biscuit

[rich ledge]

Haha could get into CA

[sleek root]

I dont know why people "He's higher syncro then me" = whale.

[fathom rock]

Whale gotta be like 60+ sync diff

Or you just bricc

Like me

[swift mango]

Yeah, like 3 guys coming to my bracket can no longer get to CA this season. One guy even made it to top 8 once.

[fathom rock]

Or people like these that are definitely whales lmao