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can and adjust with cubes ig.
Low sync pvp is like pain 
also doves be more mindful about who gets what doll. why does sr mihara have a doll sir 
crown doll-less 
That's what I said, some idiot keeps attacking you. The time will come when no one dares to attack you anymore except whale 20+ level above you. 
when I started the game she was my only attacker

I got rrh and rh shortly after
I got the doll in the first place cause sr was broken and they mailed rewards for everyone
need 181k 
it's over 
Can try swap SBS and RH. If its still doesnt work⦠
I can power gap team 3
The reply was also partially to dee, im a whale but im the right sync for where im at, f2p players can compete with me cuz I dont buy respurces
You need t.helm
that would be nice
Just her being on a team almost guarantees 4rl
Can try swap Biscuit for highest CP clipRL and tryβ¦
apparently jackal is bugged and just one jackal by theirselves is 3.5rl
Mlb moran is nice tho, will be very tanky once invested
who are the clip rl
nah, 20k low if vs team 2
Bug abuse
Tbh, just cook any decent 3RL team and u can win T2 imo
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it sucks not having invested pvp characters when clearly they do
I said what I said, I have a dolphin who doesn't buy resource too. And also no one attacked him but me. He had to attack and even spend gem for C1. 
Gemming feels so yucky but some days I have to

When the whale attacks me 3 times I gotta gem
I just don't see the point
Most days I dont have to
just spend the gems on dispatch reroll or something better
even gemming wipeout better than gemming for attacks
gemming wipeout will add up over time
gemming for attack just to get knocked out in group stage is no good
gem wars not worth it 
Did the discord soft banned me?
Most days I dont even have to use my 2 daily
hear me out
hey so i need some help can someone explain something real quick? Same team comp for both me and my opponent : Noise, Siren, Noah Cindirella and treasure Helm, my Siren stuns his Noise while his Siren stuns my Noah, why doesn't his Siren stun my Noise as well?
you're prob putting noah in front of noise so she has taunt priority
post screenshot
Nope it's noise first slot then cindy then Noah
sounds like a difference in charge speed between you both
so how would charge speed change things?
if noise has less cs, she's stunned. if Noah has less cs, she's stunned
due to taunt priority
Easiest way is to check your blabla
ok that actually makes sense
thank you
how's this?
team 3 puts them into deficit
unless a scarlet team doesnt care about that
Can try ig. Record vid plz
how should I postion 3
I just put them in in order of power
also who does rosanna attack btw
idk how she works at all
Shouldnt matter too much
Rapi Alice Siren SBS Naga
Hey guys is there any taunter to pair up with noise?
20% chance to work 
trina gets indom but you cant win em all

noah
Need 13000 at 451 now. 
It's 1000 more every 50 level alright. 
1k additional cd every 50 syncs 
Is there luterally no one else? Cause im using noah for a team with piper, cinderella, drake, and anis
Bursting aqap
other taunters off the top of my head are rumani and moran, but they're both b1. moran needs to burst basically and i think rumani needs to as well?
noise taunts and cant be helped 
so they're not ideal taunters when paired with noise like noah is
So that's the power of a whale 
no other taunter comes to mind
Thar kinda hurts ngl
Bro had a deficit and oneshot my team 3 anyway
bullied
Part of the reason why we want noise in fast 2-2.5RL teams. And making her tanky
@digital hornet if it means anything, you'd want to be using noise with cindy anyway

and HelmT
With biscuit as b2?
I won't be getting any helmT, used all my tickets on a bond 28 drake
traditional cindy team always has noise noah. there are many variations depending on thr speed
Could be months til I get the helm dupe though
biscuit kinda dead in spa nowadays 
but noise and cindy are basically glued together due to noise buffing cindy
Cant be found in shop anymore? Sadge 
if you're asking for a 3rl team, a common one is noise noah cindy bisc centi/rumani
bit again there's other variations
Ive invested too muxh in her
Left the day I got helm 
my biscuit is not in my SPA 
Yeah,
Noah Noise Cindy Biscuit Rumani
making sure Noah is taunting

OG Cindy comp before HelmT


why blanc in p1 for t2 tho
Thought she could handle the heat
In hindsight, putting my only b2 in p1 was not a good idea
she did in fact NOT handle the heat
(Rh does b2 but lol)
you're gonna want to add bisc with blanc if you're gonna have her p1
Doesn't that make team even slower
it does but your blanc isn't invested enough to survive to 3rl
and you need blanc alive to indom
granted in this scenario you lose regardless
I'm talking about in the future
Max core noise 

Max core Alice 

hime guess what
?
you know how my doll luck is terrible
today i got tove r0 -> treasure, drake sr5 -> treasure, mmast manchor both sr5 -> sr15 with 860 blue, 270 purple, 120 gold
4 SR15 YIPPEE
YIPPPIEEEEE
also i beat the chinese guy in spa again, came down to my 10%hp cindy vs his 30% cindy and my cindy won
his killing blow was 3 nanometers away from blasting me to challenger 4
watch us all get reshuffled
dont say that im currently still able to make CA
next time i might get shuffled into perma c9
LOCK IN!!
I wanna be the whale shuffled into some poor 220 sync average bracket
bully
Im 40+ sync lower than 4 of the people in my spa
but the good thing is now that some core pve units are done, i can maybe finally start getting some pvp units up to SR5 at least
speaking of, he's in my rookie
neither of us have folian still?
wuwa took folian by the ankles
nowhere to be seen
oh side question, does anybody know when pvp shop code manuals reduce in price? my gf is still stuck paying 4200 or something for 25 books
wtf @wet crystal hello where are you
they reduce in price? 
very early on they reduce in price and increase in quantity
he's waifu collecting in wuwa 
i dont remember when it reduces though

can moran+bay tank emilia's nuke buffed by rh?
hard to say, Emi basically has to be the only one still alive to hit Bay cover
if the rest of their team is alive the cover should be popped by normals
cuz full burst multipliers
i heard that bay can't stop emi but don't quote me
I am everywhere, still nikke-ing ofc~ bay and tove treasured, sdorothy invested harvester stage 8 secure, the rest stage 6 and stage 7, got through hard mode ch 27 boss.... yeaaaa and wuwa is pretty fr fr
I might record a fight for science
welcome back
now hurry up and congratulate me on my 4x SR15 doll today
no noah though
nani, GRATZ
1 buff emi... depends in stats, 2 buffs (blanc/rh) no, but depends in which bay interaction you get against emi
luck is turning around ash
tank, only bay die, all the team die
what's the 27 boss anyway?
RNG one-shotter
that crystal walking thing with one shot killing laser snipers
oh nah i'm good on that 
I feel like I will lose that whether CP diff or not.
im only eyeballing it rn but it looks winnable
you guys are paying 4000 for 25x code manuals and 5000 for 25x code selection box in pvp shop right?
uhhh lemme check
yes
yup
academy maxed?

i asked in questions and some vets are posting screenshots of 4200 for code manuals

The thing is even if Blanc indom works and SBS wipe everyone, enemy QeQ will have indom as well and I think she will kill me in the end
cuz i was asking at what point cost reduces from 4200 to 4000, and they dont even know what im talking about
I thought it's always been 4000s and 5000s
at the start the quantity goes up, until x25 then price reduces to 4000
i've observed that in all 3 of my accounts, and im wondering what point it does that for my gf's new account
Hime lock in!
top team is 3rl?
hmm actually it's not academy level
bc if so yes with the feed they give you it's possible for you too lose. i wouldn't advise fighting indom w/ indom
sometimes it doesnt snipe one shot, that's the run you want
then it has to be some campaign checkpoint
I did 27 hard mode 
because some people just don't push campaign
I'm at boss of 28 hard mode 
one, i gotta stop being lazy and reach the boss. and two, rng boss 
I'm slacking it seems
Yep, my highest chance is if Tia doesn't die I guess
Hime. lock. tf. in.
but i like sleep. frima is my spirit animal 
fr fr
Does b.soda or t.drake have stronger normal attack
imo that's too risky for me. enough for me to choose a different team to fight with it
this is what happens when you fall into the wuwa hole
not me i'm f2p
(f2p btw)
there's also the hsr and zzz that occupies time
poor nikke 
bout to lock in and over take my guild leader
I should push tower too
phase 20 aint happening tho

what is even thaaaat
you'll get there trust
i was gonna say we, but we both know that's too much pve for me 
these vets in the other chat have surely probably already finished hard mode campaign
u got this 
you just need around 6.5b damage per team 

yeah I kind of have the same issue π
wait i got like 8 mins to do elysion tower bye 
phase 10 is as far as I can go
it should be doable at around sync 450 for Blacksmith and Ultra I think
MW needs a bit more
I keep on top of HSR as it's nice and quick. I dropped WuWa too much daily grind for me
no auto battle
I've become a phrolova simp (visually) I didn't reach her lore yet
pulled for her and 2 copies and weapon already...
dailies in hsr, zzz, and wuwa are like 5 minutes each if I just strictly do the daily reqs tho, which is nice
already pre-farmed for cerydra
can't auto em though or sweep it's very annoying lol

like why do I have to put in the effort to fight these boring trash mobs just lemme sweep :S
we not going cerydra here, we going march alter
good thing I'm new to it and yet to be burnt out... the so called echo hell might get me tho
yeah that is the issue
march is far away no?
I sleep next patch
or is she right after
I'm getting Augusta and quitting. Can't stand it anymore.
in HSR I can go gear grind it's 40 stam per go and I can just auto it
only qol they could add is sweep or multi-go select
that's what I like about hsr, and friend mydei
mydei mentioned 
its also not rank because my 3rd pvp-bricked account hovers gold-plat in SPA and rank 50+ in rookie
I was off and clunky in zzz and wuwa, then dopamine rush from comboes got me
SNIPE ALARM
Put me in sp with anyone but hime pls
is that this reset or next one? the reshuffle
no rookie, because then you can attack. spa you just 
retro we can't match π
put me in SPA with Hime pls
This one

When you start
bye ash, hime 
bye ill tag you when i get noah next year from pilgrim selector
We probably won't match but it aint impossible

Here's the test case
moran/rumani/helmT/bay(min invest)/rapunzel (3RL)
vs
noah/biscuit/cindy/lapT/noise (3RL)
No CP penalty (85.3% - moran team has less CP)
@placid bloom @gritty ridge
This okay?
sniping 
that is called sniping fail sir
Moment of truth 
hard to say when there's Moran on one side and LapT on the other but you can try 
see you in ca retro 
Thank god I don't get to ca

dangit 
It's a SR15 4/7/10 Moran on the bay side
But the cindy team is pretty run of the mill
what hell will I turn up in tomorrow π
am I in ca
you are not
no 
You just want me to lose in league 64? 
rank 4? still ca or no?
4 or better, next time though
Ca
it's mainly because LapT has ele advantage against Moran, and with FB multiplier there is a real chance to one-tap the cover through damage share
I hope he gets matched with lv700 above 
need sync 200
there will be no next time after the reorganize
yay 3000 gems nom nom
Just as had been planned all along.
Now to lose 6th time in a row in CA cuz a ducking shotguns teams goes vs my Scarlet team.
Shouldn't you be beating sgs with scar
Try harder to beat hime's ass. 
Whale vs f2p
Not gonna care 
yeah i can't believe you're the whale retro
I don't even have 1 competent comp
I am no whale 
I forgot to use my 5 beginner attempts 2 days in a row
which account of mine is more pvp bricked, the one without cindy or the one without noah
Who tf is cooking these
LapT is gonna obliterate bay cover
btw can I make a better team?
What does ein even do here
surely I can make something worthy of pad and good
siren can stun in pvp
i'm running something like this lol
jackal mega burst gen and damage share with 2 other teammates, siren can stun p1 unless taunted to another target
Dis 2rl?
cindy mega nuke
you'd have to check, would be close
that should be 2RL
2 clip + Helm + Mana
yeah tis indeed
i was replying to you btw
now what
Your color
color?
cant see your exact cp per character nor your bracket's cp so its kinda hard to say
gotta avoid cp deficit and still put up the best actual pvp team you can
You can blanc b2 and run rhb1 and a b3
i uhh, cant tell their cp at all from that
my def for the day Retro
That's cool and all but my moran nero invest is π₯
well you either run meta or CP, you don't have both at your sync
I'm setting funky defences to screw with Void π
well i still run jackal at R0 right now, they can probably just get by with minimal jackal invest and put some higher cp units in the rest of hte slots
guy +20 sync on me. I hit him one time and he started just using all his tries on me haha
like remove blanc for something
How does one even beat a 2rl stall 
Soda rng?
so I'm baiting him with new stuff all the time
siren is meta anyways, so invest in her is a-okay
seems abusable by biscuit
Rh b1b2b3 lesgoooo
obviously will swap the order around
π
it looks beatable with 2RL SBS Blanc actually
when you invest in cindy you can throw her in to nuke some foos
gimme a sec to check the timings
Stick to ein sbs for the cp 
every def can be beaten
she is invested
just depends how annoying it is
Yes but not every def can be beaten with what someone has
right, it's if you have the power/investment to do it mostly
cindy just wants some dolls, but I cant rn because SU loves to give useless dolls
Some guy on my global went full ham on teams that rely on units i don't have to beat
I am now perma stuck diamond
is he rank 10?
Rank 8
9 and 10 are whales
it probably has to be something like this tbh, otherwise you won't have enough damage after losing 3s of your dps to Noah
My bracket is so cursed
What about the moran jack helmT rapu nero...
is naga b2 even good?
linked Moran?
probably better than rh b2
reckon my jackal would wind up linking RH and HelmT π
you can say goodbye 
alright hows this cook
people put defender in p1 usually so rh burst should just wipe from the back
wait wtf do snipers do in defense
you could honestly just remove naga and let rh b2 and another character b3 in case red hood gets deleted during her taunt
p1
and slot in a high cp character or burst gen character instead
sg hits p5 on def
Thats strange, ive definitely seen bay block cindy
bay needs like 2RL to work
And the diff between rh and sbs is so smol

yeah I have same issue I think, it's post OL though
Biscuit block helm stall.
Noise noah bisc superior to moran bay helm
how much CP you lose if you swap to weaker cube
though even then cube Atk diff kinda small
this is still in time tbh
Btw which is a better defense
That's with no cube vs highest lvl on sbs
I took them out - lost like 14-15k CP
from 3 nikkes
you won't need Helm with enemy feed
if anything being a bit slower might be good to wait out noah invuln better
it should be strong enough even through enemy Helm heal
you have noah, biscuit and helm with no cube
Hmm I can unlink helm
if you can run Helm then Helm is better than Centi ofc for the extra Atk dmg
woopsie, this is better probably
Hmm
Ca again
would 1sg on defense make or break, or extra 7k power
rec and send? I'd like to πΏ
looking forward to CA10 bigboi cook
I think the attacker will lose, but curious
good job
easy 
hmm might work haha
is there a downside to using jackal
the linked Moran one is a lot harder
dunno... π
especially with the extra 14% dmg reduc from Nero
nero adds a lot of DR as well
I was thinking rrh to obliterate the link 
it's hard to get Rapi to 2RL though
Replace Mana with biscuit and retry. 
I am not my opponent
retro attacking himself :I
Go hack his account. You can do it!
That moran is soft though lol
I love it when sbs doesn't go through my invul

how should I order this team for defense
I figured a shotgun would help vs people running biscuit
and a tank in p1
the opposite if it's a p1/p5 defender
at best bisc will split the procs but that's about it
Now who wanna assist 
should I do no sg then?
jwoz 
well this is def so who knows what your attacker will use
We're gonna be allies soon, dont booly
tbh your def will almost certainly not last though
was it fixed?
it's kinda unfortunate MG is locked to 30shot/s in arena otherwise maybe Blanc AsukaW could be viable counter to Nero Moran
it's 64.16% damage taken debuff to counter 74% dmg reduc
would rh or rrh be a better burst 3
well, maybe it'll last vs someone who doesn't know what they're doing in pvp
I bought this yesterday just to lower lv diff
rh i think, granted i don't see rrh b3 often
@umbral belfry would mihara just shred me
I'll do this I suppose
<@&946725432554836008>
i woulkdn't even use this team vs that team tbh
It's better than gemming attempt 
can you get in range of that cp?
and you're risking getting bughara'd if you use scar jack
My campaign comp is like 609k
you want rh to be the one b1 bc of her much greater atk buff
solved
you are still 30 sync gapped
I have an idea
and he has 361 stat spike
you'll lose
This seems easy - like
noah biscuit helm rh lm
should do the trick
now I will stun nerds and do beeg damage at 4rl
how you beating Biscuit 
rumani + bisc = DoT + you die from cindy
Siren stun rumani befire burst 
80 ele doro vs mihara
the problem isn't they're speed, they're slow at it is
but how do you beat Biscuit 
I..... Dont
the problem is once mihara dies, she will begin her DoT. even if you stun rumani w/ siren, she will still be immune due to bisc


can't you just 2RL double buff scar?
in order to remedy the DoT you need a stall/noise
I haven't checked how fast they are
that would be easiest but imagine bughara 
it's not bugged in rookie afaik

only seen it bug out in ca
if scar fires whole enemy team should be dead
also mihara high feed
Nah, siren will stun noah if she placed in p2
depends on how much CP it ends up being tbh
because 30 sync gap at deficit is not lethal
oh right
siren would need to be placed in p2 to stun noah or rumani depending on who taunts
Rail cooked my teams for this ca, otherwise id probably just run the same ones as last time
surely retro puts siren in p2 
yes cp dependant
bigboi CA11 cook inc!?

Rumani taunt is after FB, so siren won't target her

how did I lose this 

my poor trina
Why is trina p1
who should be p1 without rh hogging all bursts
Also rh needs indom, biscuit lock, or Noah to work as b3
She is too slow at clearing
I need my power
I also wanted to test my defense team out on dude whose farming me
there
rrh dies probably and sbs will just do sbs stuff
red hood is so annoying to use in pvp
stop putting siren ahead of rh for the b1 buff 
Is there a stat deficit?
Why wouldn't helm work?
helm as main b3?
no matter what I do something is vulernable as heck
yes
noah biscuit helm rh lm for example
Noah blocks cindy
you outstall him with RH boosted heals
if siren gets sniped then oh well
they are not even bursting Cinderella if Mihara doesn't die 
don't think that's how rh and heals work
this won't work. noah will burst too fast for their slow cindy. yes, helm Will outheal the DoT. but you have no protection after slow cindy
there's no way Mermaid Noah Biscuit kills Mihara 
yeah no chance
their Mihara needs to be naked

have u seen mihara's lobby screen 
yes

she's still wearing corset, not quite naked 
corset add a lot of Def stat 
whale
I wouldnt mind that

the new treasure bay and poli any good for pvp?
both are highkey mid
nuh uh arena gems
Poli good p5 sg, bay solid antinuke
usable, yes. but nothing that's meta
feels like most nukers cut through her to me
bay is antinuke with or without treasure
I had a cool team comp that made use of bay treasure
but that requires bay treasure

I have cool team comp that makes use of Noah
but 
They had one job! To make Bay OP! And they bricked it! T_T
Bunny Bay when?
Maid Bay?
Bikini Bay?
Yeah but now shes antinuke regardless of her positioning
Btw nobody answered my question earlier
my cindy beat a p1 bayT so idk about that 
and again with a 2.5 moran bayT helm
so idk about that one
and the 2nd time bay was in p4
Your Cindy is probably MaxCore with 900% ele + 600%ATK
the rebuild cover is only when entering B2 so it can still be popped after FB before nuke lands
she's mlb π if anything they were the whale LOL
it was a max bay
Which is better defense
basically, i don't really think bay is a huge improvment over non-treasured. but that's just me
Cinderella nuke too slow, you can land rockets with FB multiplier before it hits
ngl it's mostly the same either way. still a sg. i guess pick your more invested
So b.soda and t.drake same dmg normal attacks?
investment will come into play
B.Soda because longer burst?
for example your bsoda might have more atk rolls vs your sr15 drake
why do u want to build bay over nero?
Also iron unit > fire unit.
Because most OP pvp units are electro.
it's not that much cheaper tbh, all you saving is some cs on Helm 
Have you seen my roll luck?
everyone's roll luck sucks 
it's true 
well hime's trying to 3 rock roll 3rd line

My cindy is still 4 ele nothing else after 25 rocks
4 ele p good at least
Cindy nuke doesn't need good ol tbh 
I don't understand this - if Mihara doesn't die, but gets stunned. Cindy still bursts.
It becomes a question of which biscuit skill runs out first.
I thought you are trying to stun Noah by putting Mermaid p2 no?
then what's the point of Mermaid 
if mihara doesnt die, and cindy bursts, there's very little lethal damage on the other side too
you might as well let Mihara burst, hers does nothing too
it's gonna be 2 stack
bring another healer or something
Her bubbles can help with the RL chip damage on noah (it hits biscuit/rumani too, and later boosted by RH)
if you bring let's say lapT, it changes things
mihara can die etc and there's no good healer (off healer) you could rely on in that situation
also LMs stun helps force a target change - Noah will get stunned at the end of invuln
I think it really dpends on whether he can outstall the other side. in that scenario
like how big a gap the stats cause
your Biscuit is always triggering first though because p1 Noah is getting hit with fire advantage from Mihara until 3RL B2, their tanks are not getting hit by anything really
Me and my 200 rocks for nothing. Never again
@umbral belfry don't do it!
reroll is a bait, stick with free OL
you basically have 5 seconds after invuln end to kill biscuit with splash damage or forced target change
Also guys is there any use for ssakura in pvp these days
look at my +75 rocks bsoda vest, only 1 time ele and was 1st line 9%
if you are 2x your target's CP she is usable 
I think that's about it
try me dumping 200 rocks on 1 character and not even getting 3 line optimals for all slots min/maxed

my alice is +200 rocks and her OL is just average
i hate bunnies in this game
I hate the OL system in this game
wouldn't be so bad if you had another way to farm rocks daily
RNG on kraken is dumb af. he should have 100% chance to drop 1 rock no matter what on top of the crate currency.
well it's not just the rock RNG, it's the soulbound gear
so you're never actually done even after you perfect a piece
they should introduce an item that is hard to grind but gurantees you an OL roll of your choice
because every char needs perfect pieces
they have time to update the pvp shop
we still need the dupe item and more locks
yep, or make it so you can get the right stats easier but rolling for higher percentages is a bit more difficult
so you don't get stuck without ele or atk but getting the higher values takes more time
defense rolls should be removed on OL rolls.
every 100 rocks let you select a effect
OL is a bait, stick with free gear. 
more reason for whales to buy rocks from the shop
We will get a bracket shift next reset right?
it is your time to use t7 makima next CA
do we even know when they do this?
I hope not.
I like my bracket.
If I had her!
i like DEF in 3rd line... but depends on the unit, most of the pvp units are fine with that
def should be changed to something like damage reduction %
I don't know actually
I think I saw some new names on the rookie so I thought it would be the same for SP
you will get her next rerun... if nikke don't go EoS
that is another reason why i don't use my rocks; waiting on SU fix for DEF stat
Yes SPA shuffle this week
nooo
but they said it like last year...
they going to stick me in whale bracket
they always stick me in whale brackets for some reason
it was a snipe day, reshuffle use your last rank to decide the new one if they add more people to your bracket
I hope for less whale this time..
I wish I was back to the first bracket
I had a guy sitting behind me in my bracket who had 4 million CP and had no care to move up 
with that kind of CP alongside the 5 million ones I see they can PvE team overwhelm PvP teams with enough CP deficit probably
4.5mil cp is the standard top 10 here
With no DEF being good 
that is another reason why CA is a bad mode that didn't make whales spend more, most of them already have the rank secured* with their high sync lvl and see no reason to invest in pvp teams because CA rewards are bad
why would anyone invest in a beta arena that can change drastically in the future.
If the word beta is to be taken seriously of course.
Ego.
i was actually trying to say that SU didn't make it worthwhile, not to throw shade on those who like it haha
Wdym?
most of ppl in my group have invested in pvp char
Especially fahren, all of them are max core and cp above 180k
it won't change, we will get EoS beta before normal CA
they just copy the cheap "meta teams" but not enough for pvp invest, they still win with cp gap
Normal max core build is around 150-160k cp
Calling 180k cheap is
good luck for sp arena reshuffles boys
Pray that glorious great leader shiftup remove whales from ur group instead of adding more
I want to be the new whale in someone elses group
It already removed so is going to add again 
3k gems was good while it lasted
my last reshuffle added 2 more whales
This time it better get rid of them
I got s.sakura from my arena gems
Tbh I feel sorry for which ever group that got the Korean dolphin from my bracket
I wonder what he will do with out me oppressing him
Is this better, worse, or same as with rapu
worse
rapu is rapu, you can swap quiry and keep bayT, i think that is better, but i don't have bayT to test
nero not having rapu is 
no 2nd b1
god i just noticed that π
oh you're def dying trust π
you need more rotations for a stall team, Dr can get multiple cycles, bay can't heal herself and the teams that can kill your units will do it regarless of rapu or bay
<@&946725432554836008>
no rapu b1 for 2nd cycle, no revive and you will lose your b3s
So then what abt swapping quiry for bay like you said
it should be fine against the same teams that normal DR can win
i think that is better against mirror, where helm on ATK is stronger, same against xmaidenDR
for mirror all depends on helm elemental dmg if you can kill nero before full burst in the 2nd cycle
this looks good?
since they have jackal maybe just 2RL noah helm burst?
tbh, i don't suggest you doing anything with nero, and much less quiry rn
unless you've suddenly super invested in them rn
which i don't think you did 
Im investing moran and bay atm
that's what i'm saying
if you don't have nero or quiry invested at least mininally, don't use either of them
forgot SP ends today but I got top 3!
Biscuit and rumani are just getting ol for now
moran burst lv10, nero S1 lv10 and SR15 that is the minimum
even minimally i wouldn't
and i don't think you have nero s1 max at mininium
quiry needs a lot of investment too iirc
I actually dont even have nero in sync atm
π
xd
Im just looking for end teams, ive gotta have something to build for yknow?
if it's end teams, nero moran helm rapu x (if you want to use quiry here, fine)
or if you want to use bayT fine, but imo weaker and loses to a more estbalished stall team
but the choice is yours
or this ..I dont have enough CP on this (need 684k)
what on earth is that top team 
i have no idea
or this but this is 3RL noah helm vs 2RL scar so..
their scar seems not buffed
2rl noah sbs is fine but i think 2rl sbs indom is safer
if you ask about 2RL team against that team, you will need to burst before their bay, because her cover will tank the nuke (if you try to use one) rh b1 can counter bay cover and a 2nd attacker as decoy is good for helm snipe, you can try a team at the same speed+ noah and continous dmg or a slower nuke with a 2nd attacker that will take helm snipe
a dps check bay'T team
the only if here is if sbs outdamage heals from helm and noise
how do i get to blanc sbs at 2RL? and my blanc cp is also low so prob doesnt work
scar blanc lapT centi jack is an example. you can try the 2rl noah var. though
lapT can be exchanged for helm too
actually, i think i'd do lap here due to her splash dmg
that team is 83.7% CP not at 85.7%, should i still try it?
i guess just wait my CP to grow..
show your cp and theirs
it is here
798k vs 668k
let me see.. try my blanc cp
if it doesn't then it's really risky
imo i wouldn't
even lower CP (798k vs 643k)

time to not swipe
i would try something like noah/cindy/helmT/rh/biscuit, noah will taunt helm

lets see, i hae neough CP to try this 3RL

wait
oh nvm.i was thinking it might be too slwo but noah will be bisc immune from helm's burst
maybe it'll work
π 
maybe it was too much burst gen from cindy p2(?)
replay
looks like 3rl (seems 2.5) somehow can tank scar's 2RL burst?
that scar has no major buffs. makes sense
hmm, can only put biscuit b2 there if not cindy...
yeah no trina no redhood buff just chilling
the counters killed your helm
i see..
not to be confused by https://nikke.gg/squad/counters/
so I ended challenger 6, but got rewards for 11th instead??? I did my battles 7 mins before reset, anyone ever had this happen?
sp have 2 ranks, current rank and final rank, the final rank depends in the points you get during the season, at higher current rank you get more points, so that means you have to be in a higher rank more time than others to get more points... you didn't have the points for that rank/rewards; you can't snipe last day and claim better rewards
ah that makes sense, ty for the clarification. I could have sworn I was higher than 11th though, my server is bloody, i fluctuate from chall 6 > chal 9 > dia 1 every day
you shift a lot because in SParena attack is easy, defense is way harder, on same invest and if both players know what they doing, near impossible
try to improve your defense enough that it can retain you upper challanger ranks
Wrong, improve your level
Red tracer, I'm getting shuffled
Greatest pvp defense
Improve your wallet muscles
so how good is treasure bay for pvp?
c6 means you get more points than any rank c7 and higher, doesnt mean you'll be rank 6
does anyone happen to know why my jackal link is going to little mermaid and not my SBS even tho she has higher atk? The team comp was working just fine but idk if im just just missing something :D
longer you're higher rank the "higher" your score will be
for example I ended spA in c2 but I got rewards for c5 cause I was mainly top 10 not top 3 the whole time
check the atk lines on their OLs? 
o i see, must be the case bc i did get one more atk line on her. so OL lines pretty much dont reflect the stats shown there?
they dont yea 
good to know, thank you :D
Nope, even level gap you can still be competive
C1 511
C3 462
C4 444
C5 417
C6 444
Me C2 415
But still level helps a lot but i you do not have enough investment, you can not do much
did you guys know that purple rapi has a taunt?
taunts highest attack too, weirdly enough
I dont remember vanilla Rapis kit at all
probably the case for most here
purple nikkes rarely used 
wonder if i will be in the same bracket
hmmmm
If the scarlet team is the fastest 2rl for example scarlet,jackal,centi,trina,red hood, then the scarlet would cast before ur blanc in which case u lose, u just need ur blanc to cast before the nuke
I actually dont know how mihara works but i did see some fights where mihara just nukes scarlet
Mihara you want to die but not too fast
She drops 20 stacks of (i think) unclearable dot
So you need to run her with stall or indom
I see, but yeah usually u need at least a 2.5 RL with blanc cos most scarlet teams are 2 rl
Those might be some CA exclusive fkery
I cannot replicate the mihara sac that one shots the entire enemy team in a single tick even when running the exact same teams in rookie/sp
This might work, but its reliant on defending sg or scar counter
Idk man, Keripo encountered a mihara sac team and when mihara dies she just nuked his scarlet and was complaining that its bugged
Im aware, there is something not right about those fights #pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message
Lmao mihara can just absorb all that aoe damage
I just need to find someone with build nero moran that will test my silly comp
If its keripo complaining he probably faced it in CA too
That comp looks good, actually the core of that comp i see are always nero, moran, helm rapunzel plus some of the most random fifth nikke
Some people put drake in there, some put a Mana in there, keripo put a pepper and then a Quiry in there lmao
Like i said its dubious in ca tho cuz of matchup rng
Nobody in rookie or SP u can test on?
Welp, always lacking equipment exp
Fodder is too limited
Yeah dont spend on fodder, im spending $600 per month and i barely feel a difference, gonna stop immediately after i win CA
I feel like its only a bit more than double speed if u clear shop of equipment modules
Yeah skins and pulls are actually so cheap in comparison i cannot believe
This defense would be better than if I were to use SBS over Ein right?
i just do 3b for s7 everyday and let qte kill my team

@oblique gyro @dim escarp I made void put himself into range if you want to kill em some 
they were probably better off with the cap pad nonsense
Thats an interesting team they made
eh nothing special really π
Any 2rl nuke with bay/noah would kill it
exactly
for my pvp team, who do i use instead of alice? this is my full roster
Whats the cp on this team
uh one sec
146k
Thats not a big loss, that should work for now
cool
Get helm treasured asap tho
Whatβs a good counter to Scarlet/Blanc/Jackal/HelmT/Maid Anchor?
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Jackal work?

SP bracket reset? or just normal biweekly refresh?
The important is the stat when you re roll
You asking me? If youβre asking me Iβm talking about the mode with 1 team and 3 teams
we get SPA reshuffle on reset today
well that's a why to avoid playing pvp at all, i guess that's a method if anything 
let's hope so, maybe a bracket without π³
DPS stall
noah biscuit rh helmt jackal
Finally I'm out of top 3 
Now I shall see if this affects my CA
you took a break or more breaks did you?
your pvp and rankings are screwed
scarlet laplace grave rapu jackal
noise noah s.anis pepper sugar
auto
helmt in synchro, treasure and raise to prydwen recommended stat, stage 2, s1 lvl 10
centi in synchro, raise to prydwen recommended stat, 4OL, R15-SR5
biscuit in synchro, raise to prydwen recommended stat, 4OL, R15-SR5
cinderella in synchro, raise to prydwen recommended stat, max out asap
sbs in synchro, raise to prydwen recommended stat, max out asap
wishlist trina, rumani, build asap once found
get teams reviewed then
You're definitely a good cooker, but you're definitely not a good cutter
SP Reshuffle and there's 2 whale in this very server lurking around me 
Yes, but half a month of one rock everyday then changed to this is a miracle. 
Not a thing. 
If you wanted to stall burst with HelmT. 
RH does absolutely nothing to Indom scarlet but getting counter to death
can't wait to see 2 new kraken in my bracket π₯°
yeah I hope mine stays chill but we'll see
No 
is it time for me to invade
You're Leviathan tho
nope just a whale
I kinda afk as long as I'm stuck at top 3
After several reshuffle, I believe the top 3 won't be too much different lol
I always afk top 3 

Too bad I can't build CA for now

Build after now. 
Ok Mr planet 
What are you talking about, he's red twice
Pink
Maybe I would get 2 whales and one Gemmer next season. So I would only settle for c4 and waste some of my Gemmer gems. 
I said twice 
Whales: I hope for a challenge!! 
Will my bracket go from 7 whales to 10 
Whale 1: Touch Whale 2
Whale 2: Touch Whale 1
repeat
They wanted that 40-60 level lower guy to beat them so they could show off their skill in team building. 
Only when they get tired of it that they open boxes 20-40 levels more.

Credit card or make new account a rushing story

levels be rough
Says the guy 100lvl above me and started after me 
Leviathan 
retro built different
can go toe to toe with cosmetic whels
how to solve 60 synch level difference 
#pvp-arena message do it like this everyday
all 10
I want to get my Chime sir 
Chime will be npc forever cause she lost to chatterbox gang miserably
Rip hammering then
But you started before him and 100 level above him. 
Multi acc moment 
Where is that Kisama.mp4 ? 
WTF man
I'd rather see you in mine than some random whales π
how can I improve my current pvp team, and should I use Scar Blanc RH Emilia Jackal team?
current nikkes
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
Use this when creating teams
so at least you can know what RL your team is
2RL being the best team set up
3RL acceptable
other RL depends
Blanc teams like 2.5rl
Where uh... where ya getting emilia from bud
For your team 1 I suggest Blanc, Rapi RH, Biscuit, HelmT, Noise/Rumani
i dont get lap's ulti description. she will deal initial dmg as a nuke?
first tick does more damage
My cook you can adjust after getting other pvp related Nikke's 3RL but at least you have 3x 3rl
Yes but low damage in pvp
Her normal damage is very good tho if you have her treasured, Burst gen just okay
can i use it as a nuke
not really, it's single target
not suggested
Thank you very much
that dmg over time is per sec or what? 222% in 10s is too low man
Laplace also doesn't really have self steroid so it's not even that strong as single target nuke
22.2% per tick, 24 ticks per second because her weapon is SMG when she changes form
self steroid?
I think kuwon means self damage + buff
she doesn't have buffs when entering full burst like other B3
that are stronger than her
any buffs has to come from the team
that's why her damage is just not that good
use this Instead
I changed Liter to Red Hood so less feed
aight I sleep now bois
GL with your discussions
Thank you and gn
laplace doesn't fire enough shots to do true dmg in pvp





