pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

this sounds like you're chickening out

[quartz rover]

too much power, has a 2rl scarlet team too

[shell hazel]

we don't raise cowards around here right @tropic summit ?

[quiet merlin]

how do i beat this?
scarlet-trina-rosanna-helmT-jackal

[twilit bay]

noah, biscuit, cinderella, helmt, jackal

[quiet merlin]

ty ez

i struggle against rosanna comps, always 🙁

[earnest vector]

rookie / sp arena is uncapped level

Think blue cp in story

And your team is raptures

In those stages 💀

[shell hazel]

damn I never knew that rosanna was a rapture

she hides it well

[earnest vector]

such is the rookie arena life

[twilit bay]

What should I use against this?
I was thinking
B-Soda/Drake-T/Rosanna/Centi/Viper-T
Scarlet/Trina/RH/Noir/Jackal
Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/Helm/Rumani

[twilit bay]

Is it just me, or does this seem a bit too fast?

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor the brick approaches

also

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[tropic summit]

jackal burst gen is currently doubled based on what we saw from Merry

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[tropic summit]

arena is broken atm, cowards or not, it's hardly remarkable playing it atm

spaghetti code full time

[gritty ridge]

Is that why I lost to what should've been 3rl when I was 2rl?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Terrible

Rail go get a job at shift up

[keen vapor]

An update is against me i can finally see event though

[keen vapor]

Hell nah wth

[tropic summit]

just look at Merry's video

solo jackal currently bursts at around 3-4RL, when she should be around 6-7RL

[keen vapor]

RAPU LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

Maiden as well

[tropic summit]

merry also posted SBS currently doubled procc

[keen vapor]

They fixed SBS to break her again

[tropic summit]

maybe they're secretly trying to spice up CA... not with seasonal buffs/perks, but seasonals bugs

[shell hazel]

truly the bay update has broken all of pvp

[keen vapor]

It'll be good if official

[tropic summit]

how is it good, it makes offense even more powerful

it's already cancerous as is

[keen vapor]

If it was official it wouldn't be at this scale

[kind tusk]

dumb question, between these 2 teams, which would win

[worthy knoll]

Feed burst gen, not actual attack burst gen.. coz her S1 is proccing twice per 10 hits

[gritty ridge]

Soon

[worthy knoll]

Updated one

[gritty ridge]

Id say top team, unless you somehow get rapu stun before indom

[kind tusk]

fair enough, i dont invest much in rap

[gritty ridge]

You have an odd scar team tho

Why noise?

[kind tusk]

because i dont have trina : D

[gritty ridge]

Redhood?

[kind tusk]

i do, that team is what i have been using since forever
recently i started noticing changes in pvp so im thinking of changing to the team above, which i just lost to
i have all just dont raise emilia since i dont like rezero

[gritty ridge]

This is usable tho its a bit jank

Not ideal against natural 2rl

[kind tusk]

also dont have rumani
that's the problem for me currently, i dont have all meta pvp nikke
trina for scar, rumani, xanne, etc

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Lemme see ur roster, I can cook something if you want

[kind tusk]

these i dont have

[gritty ridge]

I mean, I can cook with that but id have no idea who's high cp

[kind tusk]

i still have last year selector to select rumani though, iirc

[gritty ridge]

Trina, bay, and rumani are your only big losses here

[kind tusk]

okay i just checked, 2025 selector lemme choose rumanni, bay, flora and zwei

no trina

[gritty ridge]

Rumani is biggest boon there

[kind tusk]

that would be a lot to show

[umbral belfry]

can you get like 4 gems really quick pls and ty

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

just 4

[gritty ridge]

Ok I cooked bad

I burnt it, gimme a sec to try and unburn

[gritty ridge]

Hime how do I fix? This is assuming they used selector for rumani

[umbral belfry]

what in god's name is that t1

[gritty ridge]

Indom

[umbral belfry]

scar's dmg will be pitiful

sbs has no purpose there

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i realized that

[umbral belfry]

the only reason sbs would be there would be for added cp, nothing more

[gritty ridge]

Now im worse off

[umbral belfry]

if you're gonna run blanc you also need rh and a burst gen unit

rapu also does nothing for t3 bc the battle won't last that long

[gritty ridge]

They said they wont build emi which would be the easiest fix here

[umbral belfry]

won't build emi?

[gritty ridge]

Hence why no emi indom

[umbral belfry]

one of the highest nukes and one of the best burst gens in pvp?

looking at this picture alone and nothing else like their box, I'd add a burst gen (e.g centi) to t1 and remove rapu off t3

[kind tusk]

i can build, just saying i dont build her because of rezero
she's pretty at lv1 with zero investment currently

[gritty ridge]

You should definitely build emi

[umbral belfry]

t3 a b1 with better burst gen (e.g pepper) works

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im hesitant to use shotguns for gen, I should probably stop

[umbral belfry]

not sure how you feel about rezero (which is your opinion), but if we're talking about pvp in general, you having emi but refusing to build her is 🧱

she is one of pvp's meta units in both burst gen or burst dmg

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit sanis fine tho?

[umbral belfry]

again you don't have to build her if you dislike the series, won't fault you there. but just know by not doing so you'll suffer in pvp when you don't have to

[umbral belfry]

yes moran bisc sanis is sanis's staple team

[kind tusk]

dont hate her or rem, love both, just not the franchise XD
how much should i invest though, 7 7 7?

[umbral belfry]

endgame emi is 7/10/10 iirc

[gritty ridge]

No trina is surprisingly hard to work around

[umbral belfry]

before trina scar's primary team was scar blanc rh

once they get trina they can use her as solo buff scar if they choose to. and once their emi is invested enough they can consider emi blanc rh

or just use emi for burst gen on a team

or just give her to me, i'll use her

[gritty ridge]

Im stuck on t3 for gen

And i wish I could get t1 to at least 2.5rl

[kind tusk]

what about emi

[gritty ridge]

Shes completely uninvested, I could use her as a battery but thats abt it

[umbral belfry]

ideally you would want a defender in p5 on t3

[kind tusk]

better than nothing im not sure if i can get all absolute anyway, heck if they are good enough to invest in

[gritty ridge]

Vesti and eunwha are both maybes

Vesti for pvp eunwha for pve

[gritty ridge]

Anis would work but using her is guaranteeing low cp

[umbral belfry]

I guess your past t3 would be doable for now in that case

[umbral crown]

Waos

[gritty ridge]

That takes centi from t1

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Tho could use emi as battery

[kind tusk]

so emi in last slot?

[umbral belfry]

that'd be the endgoal currently. but if emi is going in t1 they must check scar's, rh's, and emi's atk to see who's linked

[gritty ridge]

It should be redhood and scar atm, unless they roll insane atk off the bat

[umbral belfry]

always check regardless just in case. to thr shooting range they go

[gritty ridge]

Hime has my cooking improved since I started?

[umbral belfry]

as rail's disciple i am proud of u bigboi

[kind tusk]

thats impossible honestly, all my luck went to gacha nikke, not their gears

[gritty ridge]

Like i said, I dont like indom without 2.5rl tho

[umbral belfry]

they likely don't have cs rolls so it's inevitable

it's temporary until trina blesses their acc

[gritty ridge]

Tho rn they might have 2.5 because of bug

[kind tusk]

soon. this 3rd anni

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Bro share

[umbral belfry]

imagine using them up now, wishlisting trina, and she doesn't come home 😭

[gritty ridge]

Me with scar

[umbral belfry]

[kind tusk]

doubt, but honestly i still dont have snow white and that scare me

[umbral belfry]

back to ch40 story reading i go

[gritty ridge]

I dont have enough fodder today for another overload

Maybe ill get fodder from cleanup and I can ol bready hands

[kind tusk]

thank guys, let see how far i can advance
though i was actually asking for rookie

[gritty ridge]

My bad

[gritty ridge]

Check in shooting range who's linked

[kind tusk]

better than my current lineups for sp
2 teams with cp padding team

kinda horrendous

[gritty ridge]

<@&946725432554836008>

[kind tusk]

currently not in game so i checked on bla
helmt 173171 rh 166409 scar 169694

[gritty ridge]

As long as scar is linked we're good

That team should work pretty good until you pull trina

[umbral belfry]

did you check their cp or their atk?

[gritty ridge]

Oh thats a good question

This is why hime is team cook

[umbral belfry]

I am no cook rn, i am a reader (ch40) until further notice

[kind tusk]

atk

well i am noob but i still know no skills involved cp

[umbral belfry]

do you know what we mean when we say 'linked?'

bc if so you've passed the noob test

[shell hazel]

and if not then much to learn there is

[kind tusk]

i remember she has a skill affect 2 teammates with highest atk
dont remember what it does though

[umbral belfry]

thanks yoda

[shell hazel]

welcome you are

[kind tusk]

oh and cubes are like this? just checked what i equiped on blabla

[umbral belfry]

@gritty ridge alright bigboi time to teach

[shell hazel]

bigboi use the force you must

[gritty ridge]

What if I also dont know what link does

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit

get him

[kind tusk]

link summoning in ocg, discard abc to summon xyz

[gritty ridge]

Nah im kidding, jackal links with the 2 highest attack nikke(excluding herself) and shares their health as well as increasing defense. When a linked unit is hit, it also generates extra burst gen

[shell hazel]

wise you are

[gritty ridge]

Link is a double edged sword tho, as if a linked unit gets hit by a sufficiently strong attack(like helm burst), all three units could die at once

[shell hazel]

in the business we call that a multikill

[gritty ridge]

Its what I use to kill scar jack most occasions

Redhood b1 + helm b3 = dead everyone

[fast jetty]

💀 pos 1 noah- > mermaid -> lost
have cindy -> use noah -> no clue
what do i do

maybe this guy is just more hardcore

[gritty ridge]

Noah can avoid stun if has cs

[fast jetty]

have he do have and i do have

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[fast jetty]

18% cs?

maybe he do have that 18% cs. and i also have that 18% cs

[gritty ridge]

15% or more on Noah i believe

[fast jetty]

so i can safely put noah at pos1?

[gritty ridge]

I believe so

Biscuit locked ofc

[fast jetty]

biscuited locked means this kind of noah has to paired with biscuit and not noise, right?

running this team maybe?
Noah Teams
Noah SBS/SAnis Helm.T Biscuit Rumani (2RL)

[gritty ridge]

You can use both

[fast jetty]

then what was biscuit locked

[gritty ridge]

Im saying you can use biscuit noise Noah on same team, its just a little slower

[fast jetty]

yeah

[fast jetty]

then what was it about locked biscuit? is it locking the team or something else?

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit locked means defender becomes immune

[fast jetty]

they are actually 3RL so maybe 3RL noah is fine
but then i got stunned so not fine

[gritty ridge]

Idk whats happening then tbh

[twilit bay]

put jackal in p1 instead of Scarlet?

[gritty ridge]

2 rl scar should clear

But it didnt

[twilit bay]

Your scarlet probably has more than 33 ammo

[fast jetty]

if scarlet is not in p1 do we still run scar?

[gritty ridge]

You want trina if youre running scar p1

[fast jetty]

yeah i think this is 33 amo, exactly (or 34)

[fast jetty]

that was lost ofc

[twilit bay]

oh wait, is noah the one getting stunned?

[gritty ridge]

Could try this

Redhood is there to look cool

I looked at dmg again, I think your scar just didnt do enough dmg

No buff scar

[fast jetty]

yeah i will try that Noah SBS

scar got stuned thats why no dmg ig

[dim escarp]

nice

[raven plover]

let them stun helm then

helm, scar, trina, redhood, jack

[covert lintel]

How can he fail once when i don't even change my def

He's the same level as me so no advantage

[steady sierra]

Scarlet + Noah 2RL beats Scaret + Trina 2RL right?

[twilit bay]

Depends on the teams

[steady sierra]

Trina team 0 defensive just full 1 shot, Noah version basically same but with Noah b2

[twilit bay]

What if the Trina team is running Siren?

[umbral crown]

Skill issues

[steady sierra]

is the stun target rng? Does it usually come in time before burst?

[umbral crown]

[twilit bay]

Stuns p1, but can be taunted. Usually comes before B2 for 2RL teams (Depends on how fast your team is)

[umbral crown]

[steady sierra]

It always stuns p1 regardless of siren position?

[twilit bay]

Siren can be taunted, but yes

[steady sierra]

also you said depending on how fast your team is, isn't her stun on a set timer because it's normal attacks?

[twilit bay]

I think that you can block it if you have enough cs, because you'd burst before 2RL.
Also, It can't stun Scarlet P1 if she has less than 33 ammo

[steady sierra]

You mean less than 33% ammo line?

[raven plover]

33 bullets

[steady sierra]

how the hell does that work

[raven plover]

its siren stun timing, if scar reloading there she avoid that, stun lands on cover

[steady sierra]

ah

[crystal flicker]

32 or 60%

Or you could also get 0 ammo lines and avoid 2RL lmao

[quartz rover]

Why you blurring me out

[covert lintel]

Oh that's you?

[quartz rover]

No

[covert lintel]

[umbral belfry]

it's me

[atomic wolf]

you dont have to blur me out bro

play better

[umbral crown]

no its me

a true villian

[quartz rover]

somehow juvia is 1 rank below me

who should go in p1? or do I just keep it since im speed

[misty finch]

Any recs for how to beat? Opp's noah team is 2.5rl and my noah is 17% CS

[quartz rover]

I ended up swapping jackal to p1 and rh to p5

[covert lintel]

[quartz rover]

by the way, snipers attack p5 when attacking, but what if redhood burst 3s

does she just do big damage from p5 to p4 all the way to p1?

got noise from a high quality mold

time to commit crimes

what should I put her skills to, 4/4/4?

[spare nimbus]

Will this win? I have no idea about team 1

[gritty ridge]

17/24/1

[gritty ridge]

Sac mihara in the wild

[spare nimbus]

She doesn’t really do anything there I’ve used that Cindy team to beat it

Idk about the others tho

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[gritty ridge]

Yeah she dies too fast and its a bad team for her

[crystal flicker]

T1 seems ok ish

T3 is rubbish tho

[spare nimbus]

What would be better? I think his t1 might burst too fast and get indom

[gritty ridge]

Rosanna should sever link, right?

[spare nimbus]

I think I tried that once and lost

[crystal flicker]

Siren

[gritty ridge]

Should rosana assassinate emi and rh?

Maybe laplace might get targeted instead

[crystal flicker]

Pretty sure Emi dies

Esp if Scarlet has ELE and ATK

[spare nimbus]

My Scarlet only has 1 ele 4 attack

[gritty ridge]

The problem is you two are very close in speed

[crystal flicker]

Rosa destroy links for sure

They won't catch up unless that Emi has 25% CS OL

[spare nimbus]

Bro i didn’t win before tho idk why

[spare nimbus]

Probably

[gritty ridge]

Maybe could helm assassinate?

Only would work if rh is linked tho

[umbral belfry]

t1 will very likely lose bc rosa will nuke emi and rh but then indom bursting lap will finish you off

assuming your rosa nukes emi or rh to begin with, but you're feeding them so much that they're likely 2rl

[gritty ridge]

Might work?

[crystal flicker]

It's not that big of a feeds tho, since link is gone at 10 ammo

He could use RH instead of Rosa if he wants to avoid feeds

[umbral belfry]

I'd be surprised if emi, lapT, and jack isn't 2rl

natural or not

[spare nimbus]

What about using siren?

[gritty ridge]

If its 2rl cant emi snipe

[crystal flicker]

That Emi isn't even SR15, left alone 25% CS

[gritty ridge]

Yeah could use siren with biscuit lock

[umbral belfry]

how exactly are you losing t1 seb? what happens

rosa kills emi + rh(?)?

[spare nimbus]

I don’t burst quick enough and one of his units gets indom and kills me

[umbral belfry]

sounds about right yeah

[spare nimbus]

Usually rh or laplace

Emi dies

[umbral belfry]

so they're at 2rl

[spare nimbus]

Sometimes rh survives

[umbral belfry]

bc your team is 2rl iirc

[crystal flicker]

What about mirror with Scarlet Blanc

[umbral belfry]

option 1 for t1 is a slower indomi guess

[crystal flicker]

Though I prefer Blanc vs T3

[umbral belfry]

oh wait

t1 skip
t2 keep
t3 2rl sbs indom?

[gritty ridge]

Could also just stun emi and force rh

[umbral belfry]

or any 2rl indom i suppose

[crystal flicker]

T3 prefer Emi + Blanc + RH

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's fair

I don't have experience with emi bc never gonna rerun

[gritty ridge]

New season rezero, she might

[umbral belfry]

don't see why she wouldn't work though, I just know her timing with noah can be wonky?

[umbral belfry]

[spare nimbus]

Maybe I can do scar Rosanna on t3? Kill Noah?

[umbral belfry]

unlikely and moran will taunt rosa

[crystal flicker]

You wont, they're 2RL

[spare nimbus]

Dang

[gritty ridge]

Also i dont think they can be 2rl if you sever link

[umbral belfry]

same t2 and t3 emi blanc rh seems doable

if not emi then i still suggest 2rl indom sbs. they don't have a bisc to save them

[spare nimbus]

Something like this maybe?

[umbral belfry]

your previous t2 was fine as it was before

as for 2rl indom

[simple beacon]

Any recommendations to build team? I don’t know whos good and whos not

[spare nimbus]

U don’t think the cp gap in t2 is enough?

[quartz rover]

for spA or beginner arena?

[umbral belfry]

an example

[quartz rover]

I don't have my degree in cooking so I can't help

[umbral belfry]

your t2 should win due to cp gap alone, but personally if something works i don't change it

but that's just me

but if you want to try that sure

[acoustic light]

do not use this team its not good 🥺

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

it's not even for me

[acoustic light]

nvm carry on

[quartz rover]

sbs is bugged rn, may as well use her double proc

[umbral belfry]

😭

sbs is bugged again?

[acoustic light]

sbs bug round 2

[umbral belfry]

oh brother

[acoustic light]

LMAO

[acoustic light]

[umbral belfry]

can't wait for them to fix it mid ca and break replays

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[spare nimbus]

Oh wow I won 3/3

[umbral belfry]

w

[keen vapor]

Rei what

And yes, I just noticed Summer Anis one

[umbral belfry]

see you didn't need our help seb, you just had to lock in

[spare nimbus]

Bro his t2 didn’t even stand a chance

[umbral belfry]

bullied

[spare nimbus]

And emi died so fast from scarlet and I stunned blanc

[acoustic light]

I see alice in team

[umbral belfry]

[spare nimbus]

Is it just me or is Alice the highest cp unit in 99% of accounts

[simple beacon]

For indivilia, I forgot to specify

[quartz rover]

finally. I'm in the 1%

[umbral belfry]

she's my 5th strongest so yes LOL

[keen vapor]

@redtracer I'm going to get shuffled

My C3 spot is in danger

[umbral belfry]

and my first max

[acoustic light]

probably not the newer ones but yea she's my second strongest

[umbral belfry]

phoric one upping me

[spare nimbus]

She’s a good 20k cp after the next unit

[acoustic light]

my second strongest = ur tenth strongest

[quartz rover]

so how does noise taunt work anyway

[umbral belfry]

the emi wasn't even linked?

[spare nimbus]

At least no emi link means that she dies quick so I can stun blanc lol

No indom for you

[covert lintel]

Go c1

[acoustic light]

oh phew for a second I was worried emi wasn't the goat

[keen vapor]

531 synch whale doesn't allows it to me

[umbral belfry]

when she hits enemies with full charge she taunts (basically if she's in p1 p1-p2 will be taunted)

[spare nimbus]

Bro the whale that was sitting at the top of arena decided to let one of his union members take his place by removing his defense, does that mean the whale won’t get shuffled out? Since he lost this season

[umbral belfry]

when I was thinking of a team for your t1 I was under the impression she was linked

[quartz rover]

arent they hitting p1 anyway?

[umbral belfry]

she does, I'm just half asleep having a a brain fart

[acoustic light]

r u even able to manipulate the shuffles

I dont wanna lose kuwon in spa too

[umbral belfry]

say goodbye to kuwon in sp

[quartz rover]

I welcome you all into my spA

[spare nimbus]

Bro 3 people in my sp are in the same union 😭 the whale was trying to help him out by letting him in p1, unfortunately I attacked the guy who took it so it was kinda pointless

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

Funny enough it was the same dude that I just beat

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna get jumped

[quartz rover]

us 160-243ers would love it

[spare nimbus]

Bro last season was so hectic 💀

Lucky I found the discord of the other guy in my sp and we teamed up against them

[keen vapor]

@lunar dirge is an expert on PVP with guys on the same union

[umbral belfry]

Hopefully you 2 still stay together in the reshuffle

[covert lintel]

You cheater

[quartz rover]

I'm glad my spa is full of newer players like me

[spare nimbus]

Hey man I’m fighting 3 union members who’s whale also lets them take p1

[umbral belfry]

imp grinding in pvp? was r1

[spare nimbus]

They gave up this season tho

[quartz rover]

only cause juvia took out c1

[spare nimbus]

I haven’t spent any gems which is nice, I guess we taught them a lesson lol

[umbral crown]

[quartz rover]

c1 has a nuts team in my ladder, surprised they were able to even beat c1

[umbral belfry]

the gap from c1 good lord

[spare nimbus]

Yeah lol it’s kinda crazy

[quartz rover]

I don't want anything to do with any of these

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[spare nimbus]

Funny enough he’s only 36 synchro levels above me

[quartz rover]

only 42 sync higher, easy

[umbral belfry]

how is his cp so high all max?

[acoustic light]

Im suprised they have proper pvp teams at 245

[quartz rover]

my centi isnt invested, same with anis and jackal

[spare nimbus]

Team 1 can win, team 3 dies too fast

[umbral belfry]

the math ain't mathing

granted I'm half asleep, either way oof

pray he gets shuffled out

[acoustic light]

i mean he has every unit sr15

[quartz rover]

I think he's just got the dupes and probably invests in pvp

[spare nimbus]

Im not sure he will, cause he let that eve guy take his place in p1 for a bit

[quartz rover]

I don't wanna say he's a whale but nobody else in my spa has 240 sync

[umbral belfry]

oh right the dolls

[spare nimbus]

(It was like 5 minutes cause I attacked right after 💀💀💀)

[umbral belfry]

yeah who whales in nikke

[placid bloom]

[quartz rover]

im ok with whales, keeps game alive

[umbral belfry]

thanks @acoustic light

[acoustic light]

Kuwon whale time

[quartz rover]

he's my might guy

[spare nimbus]

The whale was probably mad at the dude for wasting his time removing his defense to not even hold the spot for 5 min

[placid bloom]

it's too late for me to want to whale

[quartz rover]

beacon of hope in these trying times

[acoustic light]

no need to thank me thank @umbral belfry instead

[placid bloom]

already missed too much and my OCD won't let me look at an account that doesn't have 100% collection

so no point

[spare nimbus]

The guy was pissed and spent like 1300 gems attacking us

Me and the guy I was teaming with would both swap attacking him

[umbral belfry]

thank god I've never experienced gemming yet

[spare nimbus]

U are so lucky bro

[acoustic light]

lol i spent 250 pulls no ssakura out of spite may have to let it go

[quartz rover]

closest dude to my c1 has 237 sync

[spare nimbus]

I usually spend like 200 per season, but last season I spent like 800

[umbral belfry]

oof

[placid bloom]

rip

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

[umbral crown]

not trina

[placid bloom]

too many reruns in September too, guess you get her next year

[spare nimbus]

Cause I had to battle that eve guy, and the day before I was going back and forward with the Chinese red hood guy

[quartz rover]

just c7 them all

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[umbral crown]

no more rerun for Ssakura and S.Rosanna

[placid bloom]

they will do another big batch like this year

might not be next year I guess, maybe the year after

[umbral belfry]

sanis and xanne

[umbral crown]

anis is like 2 years ago

[acoustic light]

at least his trina has a doll where's my blue rl dolls 🥺

[spare nimbus]

Luckily I mlb’d s.Rosanna last summer

[umbral belfry]

not for us rosy

[acoustic light]

ez skip yup

[quartz rover]

what da noise doing

[umbral crown]

by that time all those units will be in the dust

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I mean by next year SRos and SSak will also be 2 years old

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

4/4/4 min pls good sir

[spare nimbus]

I love summer units

[placid bloom]

pulling is not always for meta, I didn't pull Nier for meta

[umbral crown]

but noboy will ask for them

[placid bloom]

Nier is ass only

[umbral belfry]

srosa

almost tempted to mlb but i gotta resist

[umbral crown]

mlb her with 100 pull last year

[spare nimbus]

Bro it is worth it

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

I gotta save for sanis and xanne

[keen vapor]

So much 60$ skin

[umbral crown]

400 tix and you done

[placid bloom]

cheaper to get skin than mlb usually

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

this

[umbral crown]

just 3

[quartz rover]

and the gacha skins can be used without owning the nikke

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

Bro i got so lucky with the gacha, i spent like $10 on eve, and $30 on rapi

[placid bloom]

reported

[umbral belfry]

wtf

[keen vapor]

Anne come home

[umbral crown]

we gonna do the thing with seb

[acoustic light]

I dont think we have to pull for meta bc they dont release pvp units

[umbral belfry]

@ moderator

[umbral crown]

you gonna pull 1 copy

[keen vapor]

[umbral belfry]

[spare nimbus]

Funny enough, the entire reason i got gacha was because i was out of pulls for a banner 💀💀💀 so i tried getting the tickets and didnt even get them i just got the skin instead 😭😭😭

[gritty ridge]

Dont you have to do like a minimum of 7 pulls to even have a chance at the skin?

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna wanna get sanis trust

[quartz rover]

im not stopping there

[keen vapor]

Yes

[quartz rover]

im getting them all

[acoustic light]

anis idol powercreep 🤔

[placid bloom]

tbh the more I look at SAnis Blanc matchup the more I think it's just as bad as SBS Blanc

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

ping me later, im reinstalling the game so the pics not loading for me right now if not ping Echo, he gonna help you

[umbral belfry]

3rd anni

[acoustic light]

so actually u shouldve kept spending to get those pulls at a good deal

[umbral crown]

[acoustic light]

I was thinking new year

[spare nimbus]

Bro im not paying any more 💀

[umbral belfry]

ironically I don't see myself using sanis in ca but at least I can use her in sp and pve

[placid bloom]

it depends when chapter 41-42 drops

[acoustic light]

dont listen to me Im jealous

[placid bloom]

if it gets delayed to December then we have to wait for NY

[umbral belfry]

sure can't wait for 3 pilgrims in anni and NY

[umbral crown]

thats me with siren but you know

[umbral belfry]

don't lie you don't even pve

[quartz rover]

I was oling sbs and I think I got lucky, these are just the 1 rock to ol the gear

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

If it makes u feel better, all the other gacha pulls I paid full price for

[placid bloom]

I can't wait to use SAnis as battery for Cinderella team because I don't have XMaid

[quartz rover]

Why not get both in September

[umbral belfry]

gn

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

XMaid not until December

[quartz rover]

I thought they were doing maid in the thing

[spare nimbus]

I still need to pull s.mary, I wasn’t able to get her last summer

[placid bloom]

she is too new to be lumped with the old batch rerun

[acoustic light]

xmaid should come dec again

ah wait u just nvm

[placid bloom]

well she will come again but I still need to be lucky

[umbral crown]

x maiden was last winter so her rerun in december

the units that will get a rerun in september are older units from 2 years ago

[acoustic light]

1 pull is all it takes

[placid bloom]

last year I spent 170 pulls on her, got 1 SSR the entire time and it wasn't her

[umbral crown]

to get a R unit

[acoustic light]

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

I think I actually spent more gems on the s.mary banner than the Rosanna banner, didn’t even get Mary while I mlb’d Rosanna

[umbral crown]

you had to pull 30 more to tix her

im saving gold tix to mlb her in december

[simple beacon]

@umbral crown

[spare nimbus]

How much gold do u guys have saved up?

I’m saving mine for 3rd anniversary to mlb

[umbral crown]

i usually skip anni units

[quartz rover]

darn

[spare nimbus]

Hopefully anni unit is godly in pvp

[placid bloom]

all I know is that if Vesti is meta I still won't have pulls to spare for her

I will just pull her someday off wishlist

[umbral crown]

use gold tix

[placid bloom]

nah not worth, I will just hope nobody else pulls her

[keen vapor]

Five hundred

[umbral crown]

like people who skipped emi

[keen vapor]

4 units to collect

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

well I wouldn't skip a collab char

that is bricking in real time

[umbral crown]

¨should have skipped rem

[spare nimbus]

team 1 and 2 win right?

[keen vapor]

That whale you hate will

[spare nimbus]

or should i swap siren for red hood

[placid bloom]

permanent pool char is whatever, I will get them one day

well if it's whale then it doesn't matter, having Vesti or not is the least of my worries

I'm already CP gapped on defense

[umbral crown]

been months since i do not get a helm copy, you trust is impressive

[acoustic light]

but kuwon u need to win CA at least once u get Noah

[placid bloom]

that is something to worry about in a few years

[acoustic light]

or whenever ace retires

[spare nimbus]

or would this guy be better?

does blanc feed like moran?

[acoustic light]

they're both ar I think

[umbral crown]

both AR

[spare nimbus]

Do all ar feed the same speed?

[placid bloom]

yes

[umbral crown]

si

[placid bloom]

just eyeballing you should kill them before they ever burst Blanc

but you should check calc to make sure

[acoustic light]

u can use the nikke.work calculator itll show u burst timings including feed

[spare nimbus]

nice

[placid bloom]

cuz it's 1 clip + Biscuit

[umbral crown]

zixk

[spare nimbus]

Cindy and blanc got indom, too bad they couldn’t burst

[placid bloom]

kind of interesting that guy is bursting Centi instead of Trina

maybe he doesn't know

[spare nimbus]

I just realized 💀

[placid bloom]

not that it would've matterd but it's still funny

[umbral crown]

the name of a legend you have there

[spare nimbus]

Zixk?

[umbral crown]

yeah

[spare nimbus]

He stopped playing

[umbral crown]

besto pvp MA

[spare nimbus]

So mine now

His emi is so cracked

[umbral crown]

really?

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

[umbral crown]

waos

[spare nimbus]

it is so crazy bro

bad part is, everyone in challenger is now like 100 sync levels above

so im stuck in diamond

[umbral crown]

use the wallet

[spare nimbus]

I am NOT spending on another account bro 😭😭😭

[umbral crown]

its nothing, just do it

[spare nimbus]

Uh all of a sudden I am very poor

I can’t afford anything

[umbral crown]

i would have been buying skins already

[spare nimbus]

Bro I don’t think he even has a single paid skin

[umbral crown]

nope but its time to get them all

[spare nimbus]

[umbral crown]

thats how things work

[spare nimbus]

I don’t know what to even build

[umbral crown]

he alwasy had gems ready for pvp

[spare nimbus]

Cause I can’t even enter challenger anymore

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

But it is such a godly PvP account

Maybe I should just build the best siren in the game

Save like 1000 rocks

[umbral crown]

its time to get 100 levels to be competitive again

[spare nimbus]

Oh

His Alice has 25 bullets 💀💀💀

[umbral crown]

whar were you expecting

[spare nimbus]

Bro I have like 9 😭

[umbral crown]

[spare nimbus]

How many rocks do u think it will take to get all black lines for siren

[umbral crown]

if lucky just 1

[gritty ridge]

4*

[umbral crown]

1x4

[keen vapor]

10k

[gritty ridge]

Do i get anything from daily rookie attacks?

Im perma rank 1 so I havent bothered

[quick lake]

You get some grey tickets i think? pretty useless in general

[crystal flicker]

Jokes on you, I always ran out of code lmao

It'll be more useful if they add skill mats tho

[quick lake]

With CA now, I can keep up buying code mats without running out

otherwise i'll be broke too

[crystal flicker]

It'll be better if the other in my union also pass for CA

[tropic summit]

he's hopeless

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24482465

I still have lots

[steady sierra]

what beats sbs biscuit + defenders?

[spare nimbus]

Bro am I the only one who gets annoyed by all these annoying numbers covering the actual values I need to look at 💀 I can’t even see the hp or burst gauge

I hope they add an update to fix this

[quick lake]

welcome to pvp

[coarse lake]

At least you can see the numbers

In ca it's RNG if the numbers you wanna see are even on screen

[spare nimbus]

Jackal was sr0 here, I just upgraded her to sr15, my units should be taking much less damage than before right? I feel like there’s a risk I can die if I use this comp again

Scarlet and siren are also sr15

[quick lake]

Incoming dmg is reduced when enemy attacks sr15 jackal. Usually the main nikke being dmg (be it SR0 or SR15), is the one that "shares" the dmg. So u want the nikke being attacked to have sr15 so that all linked units have dmg reduction

Typically P1 Scar and sometimes P5 Jackal

[spare nimbus]

I see

[swift mango]

How are you gettinh rank 1 without attacking? Some idiot keeps slamming onto you?

[onyx scaffold]

he is a whale

[onyx scaffold]

u got scarlet yet?

[swift mango]

And what does that do with anything? If you don't attack and no one attack you in Rookie you will be rank 50+ when the season ends.

[neon kelp]

how to defeat this?

[fathom rock]

Scar/trina/rh/clip rl/jackal should do if scar ammo low enough to avoid siren stun

If it's not below 31 however hmm

[neon kelp]

yea I think I have more than 31

[fathom rock]

You got emi Invested?

[neon kelp]

emilia? yes

[crystal flicker]

Siren will do imo

[fathom rock]

Scratch that, does siren link with jack here

[neon kelp]

should be

[neon kelp]

thanks!

[fathom rock]

[quick lake]

pvp MA lets gooooo

You are now stationed here

[fathom rock]

Nonsense

[shell hazel]

welcome new pvp MA Retro

[misty finch]

Any recs for how to beat? Opp's noah team is 2.5rl and my noah is 17% CS

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Trina RH Rumani Jackal
T2: Skip
T3: Noise Noah Cindy THelm Centi

[misty finch]

T1 Scar died before she could burst 😔

Also here's my box didn't send properly last time

[quick lake]

Scar not linked with Jackal? cp deficit checked?

[raven plover]

damn xmaid double proc on action?

[misty finch]

She's linked it looked like helm burst before

[quick lake]

[misty finch]

Scar and RH died at the same time so it was probs helm burst

Any other teams that could work? 🥺

[quick lake]

oh my bad, opponent team is 2rl

[quick lake]

Skip T1
T2: Siren Scarlet Trina Rumani Jackal
Hopefully enough nuke

[gaunt pulsar]

what does ⚡ icon in nikke-deck mean? it's abbreviated as CS but i'm not sure what that is

[signal hull]

Charge speed.

[gaunt pulsar]

oh

makes sense, ty

[misty finch]

Won’t Noah protect from the nuke? That team is 2.5rl

Found out the hard way 😭

[quick lake]

2.5 RL Noah shouldnt block 2RL Nuke

[misty finch]

Really huh

[quick lake]

2.5rl should only allow them to B1 before u B3 scar nuke

But if ur nuke cant OHKO, then opponent biscuit procs invuln on Defenders and then u lose

[misty finch]

Welp my nuke wasn’t strong enough 😔

Siren stunned Noah properly but there just wasn’t enough damage

I think I also did too much damage and procced biscuit invuln on noah before scar nuke

@quick lake

Any recs for teams I could try after reset?

[covert lintel]

Can't do anything
That's investment problem

[signal hull]

Wow yeah, Scar WITH Trina not oneshotting enemy team is a major investment problem.

[dire root]

Yeah I was wondering how I was going to get around Cindy then I realized I could just make my numbers bigger then theres.

[steady epoch]

Hi, does anyone know what the top 3 teams for SP arena are?

[onyx scaffold]

no i don't

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
or check pins

[keen vapor]

After reset there's shuffle

You won't even see same targets

[quartz rover]

Top 3 teams are just xmaiden solo

[keen vapor]

PVP is broken

[misty finch]

Oh I meant daily reset

SP Challenger bracket also stays about the same between resets for me

[keen vapor]

Yes

Shuffle takes an entire day

[misty finch]

Do I need more skill levels on Trina then? She’s 5/5/5 and scar is 7/7/9

[keen vapor]

Why 5

[keen vapor]

Max skill 2

[steady epoch]

Can the team be upgraded with other units?

[signal hull]

Yes, Trina requires good investment. 4/10/10 or so. I think mine is actually like 5/9/9 or so and I do just fine. My Scar herself is quite decent though.
Also OL, at least something basic. She's mostly a buffer for Scar, but CP is CP.

[gritty ridge]

No I just keep winning defense, rn nobody is more than 10 sync above me

[signal hull]

I wish my opponents were same dumb... I change defence, they lose, they instantly figuring out how to beat me again... Not a struggle but I'd have preferred to just sit at my 3d spot without having to check it every 3hrs.

[steady epoch]

What is the best team for rookie arena?

[gritty ridge]

Its not like im cp gapping or anything

[keen vapor]

There will never be

[steady epoch]

Any you recommend?

[signal hull]

Well, technically, Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/Jackal/RH are probably the most annoying team to meet in rookie. At least from my experience.
Still very much beatable ofc...
And that one I'm using, but I ain't tellin' what it is.

[summer copper]

The best team is the friends made on the way

[shell hazel]

or the enemies

[steady epoch]

😔

[keen vapor]

Bro, if you wanted to be unbeatable and succeed, what will prevent that whale on your bracket be more unbeatable than you?

[steady epoch]

I'll settle for top 20 haha

I don't have much experience in PVP and I'm looking for equipment.

[signal hull]

Yeah. I didn't have a whale in my bracket (last one was kicked thankfully), until this one guy (who's total shit btw) decided "This is it! 💳 !"
Now he's already near-unbeatable in rookie (I still manage thanks to my secret ingredient, but not 100% and not for long, I'm afraid) and might as well become unbeatable in SpA if he continues buying core dust.

[quick lake]

T1 can try:
Blanc RH Rumani Trina Jackal

Battle definitely winnable

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/amc-gorillaz-homer-credit-card-simpsons-gif-875131904422118566

[coarse solstice]

Does 2B skill 2 trigger twice? (From new bug)

SU please..... Let it happen

[keen vapor]

A new patch to not let happen anything tomorrow

[coarse solstice]

That just means they'll break something else... 🤣

[candid pivot]

what would be a good counter to that top one?

[keen vapor]

I'm scared of optimization next month ngl apologems where

[keen vapor]

No Trina? Also Red Hood

[candid pivot]

I have trina she's not invested yet though

[keen vapor]

But can you invest?

[candid pivot]

hmm red hood might work because she fires behind that longer so her burst might work

[keen vapor]

I asked something

[candid pivot]

nah I can't invest because I dumped all my resources in the recent solo raid lol

[keen vapor]

[candid pivot]

I will get her up eventually though

[keen vapor]

Not even level 7 skill 2 is hard to believe

[umbral belfry]

no doll noise in p1

[candid pivot]

I have noise in another team but I could slide her over

[umbral belfry]

if your trina isn't invested then your next best bet should be traditional scar blanc rh x jack team

[candid pivot]

think I could get away with pulling her from other team

[keen vapor]

SKILL 2 LEVEL 7

[umbral belfry]

you're very likely doing poor nuke dmg with the team you had currently due to no buffers

[umbral belfry]

the man said he threw all his resources on SR

[keen vapor]

WE HAD FULL BURST WEEKEND AND OVERCLOCK RESET

[umbral belfry]

scar blanc rh is very outdated for scar imo but it should do

[umbral belfry]

don't raise your voice with me

[keen vapor]

:Blanc cry:

[candid pivot]

I'm going to roll for fairy girl

[umbral belfry]

who's the fairy girl

[keen vapor]

Just invest Trina

[candid pivot]

anne the revive limited unit

[umbral belfry]

bc if it's xanne trina is still the better choice for scar

[candid pivot]

or w/e her name is

[umbral belfry]

if your intention is to make scar stronger, you should be investing in trina. xanne isn't bad for scar either but def not better than trina and arguably not better than blanc

[candid pivot]

I think it's just have more versatility plus you never know who they release later

[umbral belfry]

but if you just like xanne overall then go for it

[candid pivot]

she does revive which is nice and the only B2 that does that?

[umbral belfry]

oh no yeah you should def pull xanne if you don't have her yet

I'm only saying xanne is not the better b2 vs trina

[keen vapor]

Revive means Scarlet lose her skill 1 stacks

[umbral belfry]

but you should def pull for her overall yes

[candid pivot]

yeah I'm going invest in trina anyway for solo raid

[umbral belfry]

now you can calm down echo

[placid bloom]

XAnne bait

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

unless you doing some attacker specific comp in SPA

like B2 reviving Ros nuke

[keen vapor]

There's no way they release meta bunnies again

[placid bloom]

cuz Rapu can't really do it

and Mana can't either

[candid pivot]

probably getting a bunny event next month

[umbral belfry]

pvp meta bunny

[candid pivot]

exia pretty much confirms it since she has a bunny skin

[placid bloom]

I mean we have 5 Pioneer squad now, it's about time for 4th 777 member to show up

[keen vapor]

the secret one

[candid pivot]

can you view previous battle videos in sp arena? they need to add that.

so you can see who's performing and how to change your comps

other than obviously not select quick battle. they should save the video for you or something.

[placid bloom]

they will not dedicate server space for us have to record with personal storage

[keen vapor]

Doesn't any phone that runs Nikke can screen record?

[candid pivot]

well yeah but you have to do it yourself lol
what about defensive videos, etc.
other gachas do it they let you see recordings

[placid bloom]

nope

poor indie company with rental servers

[keen vapor]

I don't think it's wrong to have to do it yourself if you can

Ofc, you can't do it with defense and yes it'll be a nice qol

But look at what happens for fixing EN VA now PVP is broken

[crystal flicker]

First 2 team is kinda best template with little replacement, 3rd comp you can also use stall comp or 2.5RL Blanc instead of 2RL Blanc

[dim sapphire]

Wheres the new emma video test in pvp?

[candid pivot]

looks like I did have some resources to invest in trina

not going to be able to get her good OL rolls though

I'd imagine she needs charge speed yeah?

her description says buffs the left most AR electric if you put scarlet in slot 2 does she still buff her if slot 1 has a non-electric?

I hate this game's descriptions some of the skills are kinda poorly worded

[gritty ridge]

I agree

[fast jetty]

Why is defense comp so good i cannot defeat

Maybe i should get a RH , this comp is actually not the good comp💀 My saved comp maybe is just bad

[glad meteor]

Liter scar trina centi jackal?

Liter linked

Oh. P1 noah

Noise noah cindy siren jackal

Noah more cs than noise

[umbral belfry]

running sbs into noah bisc is a big nono

[fast jetty]

So use the same team as them? Cindy vs noah is good?

[umbral belfry]

you were asking to lose

[glad meteor]

Their siren stuns noise. Your siren stuns noah

If noah cs more than noise

[fast jetty]

Still able to burst

[glad meteor]

Their noah won’t block you nuke

If noise taunts siren

[fast jetty]

They prob have 18% cs

[fast jetty]

Their siren didnt stop my noah burst

[glad meteor]

You lost even though you blocked their nuke?

[fast jetty]

Ok i learned, what else do i have?

• cindy
• scar
• noah sbs
• noah helm

So noah counter cindy scar and biscuit counter sbs

I am out of brain

[umbral belfry]

I'm considering a helm nuke to kill jack siren bisc link but not 100% sure

[fast jetty]

Yeah as seen in replay
After burst, survive a few sec and dead

This guy is good at cookig, always make me lose, previously was some helm blanc cindy thing

[umbral belfry]

did you try 2rl siren scar jack yet?

or does their Noah burst before stun

[glad meteor]

Are you refrerring to sbs comp.

Or did you test noise noah siren cindy jackal vs that team.

• Noah more CS than noise

[fast jetty]

That may be the first thing i try, I think at 18% cs their noah is able to dodge my stun to burst
I dint have replay so i can run again

[umbral belfry]

all of their RLs minus cindy needs at least 11 cs to dodge siren stun on noah. not just noah

which could be a possibility sure

[glad meteor]

Their team isn’t 2rl

[umbral belfry]

ah true

[placid bloom]

[fast jetty]

Also if i put scar in pos1 that will be stunned by their siren?

[umbral belfry]

that's why you put linked siren in p1

[fast jetty]

Yeah it is 3rl odd team

[glad meteor]

Same as my rookie comp

[umbral belfry]

linked siren p1 scar trina centi/any other burst gen jackal

that way scar won't get stunned

[fast jetty]

Ah…

[umbral belfry]

or if your scar has low enough ammo (32-) that's fine too

[glad meteor]

Liter is stronger buffer than siren, but need link

[umbral belfry]

another option is 2rl moran rumani helm bay lapT, as bay will eat cindy nuke.

[fast jetty]

My scar has 34 amo so rip

[umbral belfry]

then you best hope siren is linked

or just put jackal in p1

[placid bloom]

this is rookie?

[fast jetty]

Hime sensei always cooks
Replay just scar 1shot their siren/cindy/biscuit

[placid bloom]

or SPA

[umbral belfry]

we did it chat

[fast jetty]

Rookie

[placid bloom]

easy

[fast jetty]

I dont have full Treasure Bay yet, or a built moran… maybe i will have

Ok i learned:

• put siren linked pos1 for opponents siren
• to make siren linked(and scar), dont run helm since helm will have higher attack
  -then 2RL scar>3RL cindy (i dont think noah burst matters here since their cindy did not burst)

[umbral belfry]

you don't need treasure bay for that 2rl team so that's fine. moran somewhat invested will be good though

The Great Learner™

[candid pivot]

alright I got trina invested
what's a good setup to counter that team?
not sure even with all the premium burst they can burst faster
but I've never used trina

that team bursts pretty much as fast as me

or right behind it

[placid bloom]

I don't remember if 2.5RL Noah catches 2RL Scar

[umbral belfry]

2rl scar trina rh x jackal for a sure kill.

or 2rl scar trina x x jackal - p2 soda would be ideal here to stun both noise and noah

[umbral belfry]

she shouldn't

[placid bloom]

your damage is kinda awful with Noah though, that might be why you can't shot over 2.5RL Noise

basically no B1 no B2

[umbral belfry]

yeah we were talking about that earlier and echo bullied

[candid pivot]

I need to invest in soda lol

[umbral belfry]

soda doesn't need investment really, but would be nice

[candid pivot]

I have the bunny soda invested

[umbral belfry]

but not exactly needed

[umbral belfry]

actually yeah I would try 2rl scar trina rh variation just in case their noise burst is invested enough

[placid bloom]

how come Mustang gets to enjoy being there

[umbral belfry]

[candid pivot]

their noise is pretty well invested based on what I've seen

the 1 time I tried

[placid bloom]

you might need double buff to kill over Noise tbh

[candid pivot]

probably 10/10/10 and good OL

[umbral belfry]

you could keep helm on the team if you want but if you choose to make sure scar is still linked

[placid bloom]

Trina alone might not be enough

[umbral belfry]

just like me.

[placid bloom]

their Noise doesn't even have doll

[umbral belfry]

but tbh helm on the team isn't needed for 2rl

[umbral belfry]

oh I just saw

[candid pivot]

I've beat that guy's composition before I just don't remember what I used

[umbral belfry]

try scar trina rh centi (helm if you want but make sure scar is still linked) jack

but like i said, helm isn't needed here

check cp before trying too

[fast jetty]

Wait, can you see that?

Oh…

Do 2rl helm counter Scarlet or it is more a 2rl noah+helm counter Scarlet

[umbral belfry]

2rl helm countering scar is possible but depends if scar is in a link (helm burst kills off all members of link) or if scar is highest atk with no link. but if the other team has another b3 (e.g rh), your team can possibly still lose

[placid bloom]

it doesn't really counter Scar

you are countering Scar with a defensive B2

[umbral belfry]

if there's no link personally I wouldn't use helm for bursting but that's just me

[fast jetty]

I see.. So like scar-trina-RH (linked?)-helm(linked)-jackal can still possibly win?

[umbral belfry]

almost always do I just helm just for burst gen in sp/rookie

[placid bloom]

and at that point any B3 can kill

[umbral belfry]

if we're still talking about scar i don't recommend fighting 2rl scar with your own 2rl scar

too much rng

[fast jetty]

Yeah i think in sp my noah sbs team can beat scar team..

So we have to have noah (maybe bay?) to beat scar basically

[umbral belfry]

the easiest way to counter a traditional scar trina rh team is 2rl noah

[placid bloom]

Noah, Bay, Blanc all work

[umbral belfry]

there are other counters to 2rl scar though if you wanted to think more

[placid bloom]

for rookie at least

[umbral belfry]

2rl sbs indom, 2rl moran bay are other examples

[placid bloom]

it's hard to dedicate enough speed for Blanc in SPA though

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

or if you are insanely geared

2.5RL Nero Moran also clears

since you will have 74% dmg reduc on your entire team before Scar can cast B3

[fast jetty]

I see, so in sp, possibly use bay moran/blanc to counter scarlet and use noah for cindy

[placid bloom]

and Nero will be at 100% dmg reduc

[umbral belfry]

if you wanna use bay and noah on 2 teams

• 2rl moran bay helm vs 2rl scar
• 2rl noah vs 2rl cindy

using 2rl noah vs 3rl cindy is risky

[placid bloom]

your other option if you are really geared is 2RL Ros nuke

no B3 if Scar is dead

[fast jetty]

Ros, what a unfamiliar name that i def dont have OL resource for

[fast jetty]

that means i burst too fast and not be able to survive later?
I feel in my local SP many are running 3RL cindy

[umbral belfry]

cindy's burst is delayed. so if you're 2rl noah your shield will go down too early which will likely mean 3rl cindy will kill off most if not all of your team with stray hits. the easiest way is to match your noah speed to cindy's

[candid pivot]

that's funny I didn't even realize they lacked a doll on noise lol

seems weird because I don't think that noise is low invested

maybe they forgot to put one on. I know I've done that several times thinking one had it and they don't.

[glad meteor]

Some people don’t invest much in pvp

[candid pivot]

like me

still waiting for the SSS unit to drop that's SSS in everything including pvp makes the investment choice easy

wouldn't be an issue if this game didn't make it so hard to get OL rolls and skill books.

I could be a whale and still be broke on skill book/rock resources.

you could spend like thousands and barely get skill books/rocks off real money

[quartz rover]

if someone wants to help me beat c1 i'm willing to try, but I think they have too much power

[fast jetty]

in my local SP, rank2 has very high CP but rank 1 beat him, and i beat rank 1 just a matter of login time

[quartz rover]

my c1 is a heavy spender

[fast jetty]

0lb siren doesnt seem heavy to me

i know a guy in genshin that would c6 everyone (inckluding star rail)

[quartz rover]

128 nikke with 245 sync

[fast jetty]

i see, so you are like 215 sync

thats fair

[quartz rover]

203 sync

[fast jetty]

i should just attack sooner tbh wtf

i was like 'save attack to one before sleep'
then forgot

[quartz rover]

My spa most people attack just before reset or an hour or two after

Also can I THEORETICALLY just nuke team 2

Like surely I can kill helm and Alice with ein, right?

[signal hull]

It all depends on bust speed.

[dense kindle]

What speed

[signal hull]

heh. BuRst speed.

[quartz rover]

something like this for team 2?

its rl 4

but what do I do vs team 3

would a cindy noise comp work for team 3?

[quick lake]

Deficit for T1. Very tough

[signal hull]

So you're lvl203, vs his lvl245... Already gotta be a huge CP gap... Not insurmountable with GOOD pvp units. But huge.

[quartz rover]

I thought maybe I could cp gap team 3 but leftovers of high power doesnt do it

[quick lake]

T1 can try running 5x Highest CP SG and pray

T3 wants Noah

[quartz rover]

I don't have noah 🙁

[quick lake]

Bay?

[quartz rover]

no

[quick lake]

Then u deadge.
Can try:
Blanc RH Centi ClipRL Jackal

Just run 5xSG and hopefully deficit not too big

[quartz rover]

don't I need blanc and rh to buff/debuff for nuke on team 2?

[quick lake]

T1: 5x SG
T2: Skip
T3: Jackal Blanc RH Centi ClipRL

[quick lake]

Trina. And put in the order I gave

SBS higher CP?

Jackal Blanc SBS/RH Trina Centi

whichever CP higher

[quartz rover]

rh is my highest power

[quick lake]

RH then

[quick lake]

[quick lake]

This is for their T3 fyi

[quartz rover]

team 1 needs 193k power for no deficit

my 5 highest leftover nikke goes to this

I think i'm cooked

[quick lake]

Yeah u are

[umbral belfry]

getting ToveT before HelmT is

[quartz rover]

no helm dupe 🙁

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

Oh actually… can try
Moran biscuit. then auto the rest

T1: Skip
T2: Moran Siren Rapi Biscuit Sbs
T3: Jackal Blanc RH Centi Trina

best setup i can think of

[umbral belfry]

I sense a misindom in t3

[quartz rover]

jackal loves indom

[quick lake]

Possibly yeah

[umbral belfry]

imo you either need more levels and/or more meta units before trying