pvp-arena

[dim escarp]

100 level, godlike

[shell hazel]

maybe but if someone spends on daily cd I'm getting left behind

[hollow lagoon]

but now i'm hard stuck before hard mirrior container this brick wall is bricky indeed, myu ein does 1 damage to glass slippers

[dim escarp]

they will invest pvp but you'll invest CS

[shell hazel]

only counts for so much, I'll do what I can with my limits

[tropic summit]

don't fall for the trap hippo

[dim escarp]

you two I did beat mirror with my 500+ account I m around chap 36

[tropic summit]

do not commit that badly to the game

[shell hazel]

I won't spend more than I am already dw

[tropic summit]

the only one who wins at that point is the company

[tropic summit]

ye you've a good head on your shoulders

[dim escarp]

listen to rail I guess

[shell hazel]

most of my spend is on the pulls/skins

I don't care to speed run the syncs that much tbh (personal pref)

[hollow lagoon]

my bank roll looking pertty bad so i'mma chill after sanis

[dim escarp]

rail the more I see you talking the more your opinion seem negative about the game

[hollow lagoon]

the ssakura 200pull and all i got was a frima set me back so hard

[tropic summit]

because it is, i'm very dissapointed in SU

and the community as a whole should start expressing it better

[shell hazel]

they could do better in general

[dim escarp]

because of 7 pilgrim in one year ?

[tropic summit]

as they are milking that pretty well lately

[tropic summit]

not just that, they've clearly gotten lazy/comfortable

[shell hazel]

29 free nier pulls

30 doko?

[dim escarp]

tencent cough

sorry

[dim escarp]

wow it's not a ban word

[wise horizon]

What are the views on the new treasure nikkes? Some of them are usable in PvP?

[shell hazel]

treasure helm is the best one by far

tbh most of the rest you wouldn't really run unless you're high in SPA/running CA

[wise horizon]

What about bay and poli?

[shell hazel]

Bay is cope Noah

Poli is SG/feed and has no place outside of SG comp in CA

[wise horizon]

So bay is worthwhile

[shell hazel]

Bay has perhaps a more general usage

[hollow lagoon]

pvp wise helm/laplace?

bay to a lesser extend

[shell hazel]

LapT is better than DrakeT yes

Bay if you're copin a bit lol

[hollow lagoon]

drake T was basically free tho

[shell hazel]

sure, I did both as you know

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse

ur evil

[shell hazel]

I don't feel Poli is necessary

[wise horizon]

What’s a good team for BayT?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/that-escalated-quickly-gif-13528303

[hollow lagoon]

i say only bat T if u wanna do champ arena or u waifu

[shell hazel]

I'm not evil I just like evil things

[hollow lagoon]

i think the point of bay T is the screen anyway

[dim escarp]

worth

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[hollow lagoon]

close enough

[dim escarp]

the view, the view is worth, I mean the yeah, it is like, yeah

[hollow lagoon]

hard to explain primate brain chemical thing logic

worked for me, it might work for u

oh

absolute is a long event without event map like rapi's

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/coquelicot-sakura-taisen-sakura-wars-ice-cream-licking-gif-7567482085748946591

[hollow lagoon]

thank the lord, 2 week for 3 units to pull would suck

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain it's so hot today need an icecream

[eager mountain]

well, her t indded looks better

[hollow lagoon]

i dont think bay looked bad tbh

[eager mountain]

its extremely unhealthy, its like saying i need a pack of smoke cuz im feeling like it

[tropic summit]

hell nah a bit of sugar won't have the same effect as smoke (addiction + health issues)

plus there's actually somewat ok icecreams depending where you buy them

[hollow lagoon]

what i need is B Soda skin, B Soda is so far from Soda

[shell hazel]

plus ice cream is delicious

[eager mountain]

a lot of sugar + the fact that its iced, and many variation of ice cream also comes of lots of sat fat
iced food is worse then what most ppl imagined

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

i recentally developed a addiction to smoked canned sardines

[eager mountain]

when ask gpt why ppl got sick more often in winter to non insect related diseases

[hollow lagoon]

its the guy that spamms "fish" in chat all day, i blame him

[tropic summit]

chatgpt vs tibi pvp fight

[ionic rose]

u know these 'active skills' with cooldowns, for example 30 seconds, do they activate when combat starts or 30 seconds into combat?

[dim escarp]

me wondering, @tropic summit can you show me your actual sp team ? (in dm or so)

[hollow lagoon]

some people have sensitive bits in their organs, cold food shuts them down

[dim escarp]

undersdstand if it's a no

[tropic summit]

which SP team sir

[dim escarp]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[dim escarp]

the huh the

[tropic summit]

[dim escarp]

the yeah

let say july!

[eager mountain]

ye im not continue on that gpt do gpt u do u
its more like because of the disinfection temp bias that stop the medical field from questioning temp
and the question itself becames a conspiracy to them...

[dim escarp]

ngl that's scary

[tropic summit]

ok which of july

[dim escarp]

I have a whoooole discord for pvp team but you beat me on this

[tropic summit]

although realistically the best SP arena teams i can run are 2.5RL scar-siren, 2RL noah cindy, 3RL (+sacc)

[dim escarp]

[dim escarp]

the huh the... the best you got in this month

[tropic summit]

oh that's easier to answer

[dim escarp]

ngl I saw too much good variation I have no idea which one is the best

on your screen

how's your sp arena whale ?

[gritty ridge]

Why is tibi fighting chatgpt

[tropic summit]

whale? you mean whales, they're far gone, all 60 levels ahead and full invested pvp teams

[dim escarp]

wow

[dim escarp]

we are obviously speaking of defteam right ?

[tropic summit]

nope actual pvp teams

[dim escarp]

no I mean def

[tropic summit]

scarlet, siren, cindy, noah, helmt and the likes

[eager mountain]

average scientific comfort zone due to the risk of infection

[dim escarp]

sorry

[tropic summit]

oh ye ofc

those are all def teams i provided earlier

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[dim escarp]

around which event did you start ?

[tropic summit]

moran banner

[upper grove]

I want to try out a new defense right now, any ideas? I could OL Bay after SR and get her to SR15

no cs on any batteries

[dim escarp]

me will never forget this post, it's because of you I keep pushing in pvp ngl

[tropic summit]

back when it was possible to still do something against them

[dim escarp]

I have the same probleme against my n'1 whale, now he have more than 800k ahead

[eager mountain]

rephrasing it, those who question one specific part of science, that has the possibly of going wrong due to some ineviable bias, would be considered a conspiracist, at least according to gpt

[hollow lagoon]

For me it’s @shell hazel making me insecure

[dim escarp]

huuuuuuuuuuuh, he is in your sp?

[shell hazel]

not at all lol

[hollow lagoon]

No my bracket is too new

He is in my CA however

[shell hazel]

I mean we could be in the same bracket on a shuffle as we basically started on the same day

[dim escarp]

CA fella

[shell hazel]

but needs a shuffle to do it

[upper grove]

only a few days left to find out

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't call it a problem, in my book having that huge advantage makes the game pointless

[shell hazel]

yeah, hopefully the damage is light

[tropic summit]

they can't and won't engage in pvp

noone will even have a chance to do anything to them

it's equivalent to essentially kill your own experience for the sake of enlarging your e peen

or playing elden ring on easy mode

[hollow lagoon]

Nah, almost 9 months and not a sign of you, unlikely

[shell hazel]

rail did say 9 month shuffle is the worst

[tropic summit]

i got screwed over after 9 months

thats when i got 3 whels instead of 2

[shell hazel]

Rail does Trina screw with Blanc indom on the same team if Blanc is bursting?

[tropic summit]

it depends

she CAN mess with it due to increasing scarlet max HP

[dim escarp]

I m in Rin CA hehe (I have forgot his/her discord name)

[shell hazel]

by making Scar immune I wondered if it means someone else can yoink it

[tropic summit]

ye that can happen

although if you link with a treasure unit it's generally fine

or give em vigor

[hollow lagoon]

keep up the good work

[dim escarp]

you still won CA right ?

[tropic summit]

i never won CA

[umbral belfry]

yet

[tropic summit]

i don't have SG or nero built

[hollow lagoon]

You won in my heart bro

[tropic summit]

just running yolo teams for the most part

[dim escarp]

for now it's 2 month pve invest, BUT AFTER THIS, I'll become keripo 2

[tropic summit]

that's a bold statement

keripo V2

[covert lintel]

I feel like my teams were against peekaboo rapture

[shell hazel]

thanks 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

That’s what other people feel agains me in general it do be like that

[dim escarp]

I swear when my water invest will be done (my last pve team) it will be pve all the way, so Rin beter be prepared

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fat-let-me-in-gif-4945255854808454297

[dim escarp]

everything is prepared

[hollow lagoon]

my Sdoro has 4 ammo 1 ele roll 1atk sigh...

i struggle to get mroe than 2 ele on things

my sbs still only has 1 ele roll

but my kraken is already 8 so i cant be bothered

[upper grove]

any ideas here btw #pvp-arena message

[dim escarp]

mine is a big whole shaft in therms of lines, that's why I did quit and say I'll come back one month later with hundred rocks

[hollow lagoon]

i should do the same

i just slapped a charge speed on my siren and it hurts my soul

[tropic summit]

scar-siren archetype (2RL via feed)
noise noah cindy archetype (2.5RL)
indom or stall (2.5RL)

^ needs CS%

[dim escarp]

my f2p account

start to be the one

[upper grove]

is indom at 3 RL even worth it? I don't think I get down to 2.5

[hollow lagoon]

i wish i have rolls as good as yours, i make do with crit rolls

and level 5 gear wow

[dim escarp]

it's rly rly rly hard focus

[hollow lagoon]

i think my spread is fine, i started getting 3% cut off for solo raid for providence

[dim escarp]

now altsuka the one more elem the I'm done with invest

with the 500+ it's ez too much carry invested

[hollow lagoon]

then again i guess my crit rolls does help me with ele neutural

[tropic summit]

i'd go with this for your teams based on invest and speed

[dim escarp]

for sure, on cind maybe for sure

[upper grove]

I'll try that, thanks so 3x 3RL with higher invested units is more worth than 2x 2RL and 1x 3RL at lower investment?

[hollow lagoon]

my cindy actually have 3 atk 3 ele, but has no crit, kinda hard to work on her with out like 100 rocks, she's got 2 empty lines and 2 charge speed i that should slap things on but they are in bad places, the issue is that the other lines are decent value so i cant just roll the whole gear

[tropic summit]

yeah if get cp diffed they lose meaning

speedwise:

oh but wait i forgot helmt

keep in mind CS% on noise and noah can get you a siren resistant 2RL noah cindy

where you no longer need noise taunt priority or using noah elsewhere than p1

[upper grove]

my Noah has 0 CS while Noise has 10%

[tropic summit]

i'd say try to get 16%CS on at least

noah noise helmt
bonus:
centi, rumani, jackal

[upper grove]

noah should get stunned then right?

[tropic summit]

ye noah has taunt priority

she needs to have around 4%CS more than noise to not get aggro

in your case you'd need noah on at least 14%CS

[upper grove]

damn, I can't spare the rocks right now

[tropic summit]

that's fine take ur time

[upper grove]

appreciate your efforts

[tropic summit]

you can always consolidate into 2 2RL teams and a generic 3RL team

may wield better results

[upper grove]

currently using
Noise Centi cindy helm xmaiden 2RL
siren scar trina rumani jackal 2RL
Noah Rapu SBS Biscuit lap 3RL

not working anymore after 2 months

[tropic summit]

hmm

the single B1 in T1 is a bit concerning

especially since she's in p1

what's your rosanna skill levels?

[upper grove]

4 4 4, no OL, unusable right now

[tropic summit]

oh oke

well for starters you could try a variation of that T1

e.g.:

would be important to fix your noah CS%

as siren can still stun her if used in p1 or p2 if she's taunt priority

[upper grove]

your team suggestions with my higher invested unit made my teams increase by a lot btw. went from 696k 698k 733k up to 754k 697k 748k

[tropic summit]

ye that was the objective in part

well it's worth a shot see how they fare

[upper grove]

I try the higher cp and see how long the def lasts

[upper grove]

if I upped my rosanna, in which team would I put her in?

[tropic summit]

she can work as sacc wild card in def

since a lot of players are not familiar with her kit

e.g. you can make a 3RL team look 3RL, but then they kill your p1 and it's suddenly faster than 2RL

a easy unit to sacc with is SR anis

low hp, still contributes a tad of burst gen, will ensure sacc

else you can sacc even with unlinked scarlet

e.g.

scarlet sbs blanc ros centi

[upper grove]

got it, thanks! if saccing anis, would she still need SR5 and base OL?

[tropic summit]

i've SR5 anis and 4OL

you'll need to put her with high CP units to balance it out

[upper grove]

true

[tropic summit]

alternatively fast teams with rosanna are also tedious

typically scarlet or helmt

as she forces opponent to avoid using water code and possibly attackers in general

(specifically helmt and emilia)

[upper grove]

rosanna needs 4 ele or is less enough for nuking the water units?

[crystal flicker]

AFK Arena

[tropic summit]

40-60 ele% is a good stopping number

atk 20-40%

[crystal flicker]

Rosa more about ATK-Crit

[tropic summit]

how's your rosanna doing

because we can make a 3RL team that deletes p1 and p2 pre indom

hmm not the only way

SG teams will also win this

ye 5 SG pressure will kill helmt and SBS before blanc can cast indom

at that point you'll likely get anis indommed

since you said your ross isn't built, we can go 4 SG + 1 flex

what's a well invested B1 you've still open

must not be an SR

you can fill as you want anyway:

you could potentially run burstless

i'd still throw in at least a rapunzel or a noise

oh that works too

go with pepper if she's built

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

no problem

[gritty ridge]

Siren cant stun if shes there

[tropic summit]

he takes weird pills sometimes don't worry about him

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

3RL has bigger concerns than siren anyway

[gritty ridge]

Same speed as rh, going against indom so slower indom should win

Yeah that makes sense

Tho its unprotected so you could also just execution squad

Not really worth

B.soda and maiden have better burst

I think drake does too

Theres actually alot of things that beat that team now that I look at it

Solo b1 in p5, both b3 are p1/2 without jackal link

[tropic summit]

correct also water code is a bit less useful

iron and wind and fire are generally more useful

[gritty ridge]

Rail i think one day youre gonna appreciate my unorthodox cooks

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-elf-cute-kawaii-gif-10687208952168920275

[mint jay]

would it still be possible for me to catch up them?
came back after 7 months

[tropic summit]

you're bricked

[mint jay]

is there really no way of coming back?

[tropic summit]

7 months put you at huge disadvantage unfortunately

[tropic summit]

ye it's near impossible unless you'll spend quite a bit and over time

[gritty ridge]

Does this possibly hardcounter soda scar jack?

[mint jay]

mone or time?

[tropic summit]

both

[spare nimbus]

Im in his head lol who gems in rookie

[gritty ridge]

[mint jay]

I guess I'll just hope they quit the game

[spare nimbus]

😂

I saw that bro don’t delete it now 😭

[tropic summit]

that's... an option...

[gritty ridge]

I thought the blue were you attacking for some reason

[spare nimbus]

Nah

[gritty ridge]

Im not used to blue defense so my brain thinks blue=attack

[spare nimbus]

Its a pretty weird team

[gritty ridge]

Just sbs indom

[spare nimbus]

Yup

And if they run a siren scarlet team, helm can likely kill

[gritty ridge]

Is rh 2nd link?

[spare nimbus]

When sbs gets stunned

Yeah rh

[gritty ridge]

Makes sense

[spare nimbus]

Sbs and red hood

[gritty ridge]

I hate running rh with jackal

Cuz you cant p1/p2/p5 her

[spare nimbus]

Rh p1?

Oh u mean jackal p1 lmao

[covert lintel]

@tropic summit is this what its called 1rl team?

[spare nimbus]

Wait r u

[gritty ridge]

I mean you cant put rh where youd normally put a linked unit

[mint jay]

wait, other than pvp, I'm still good at other contents right?

[tropic summit]

anything that does not involve rankings sure

you're bricked in SR and pvp only for the most part

you can catch up for UR and SR down the road, but pvp is far off

[mint jay]

why in the world do they even use this system

[tropic summit]

1.1-1.2RLish, but ye you're there

[raven plover]

after 1st RL shot, so not 1 RL

[mint jay]

what's UR and SR?

[tropic summit]

union raid and solo raid

both pve modes that also have ranking based rewards

[covert lintel]

1rl=1sec?

[raven plover]

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel how much CS% does that emilia have, 38%?

[covert lintel]

36

[tropic summit]

no wonder

with a single SG feed that team can be essentially 1.5RL

[covert lintel]

Oh wait it's 34
I used quantum in that battle

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock get your emilia to 34%CS

this will be a fun surprise for your defense teams

although it's feed dependant so

[gritty ridge]

I think the pvp system is actually pretty fair

It keeps people who've had the same opportunities together

[mint jay]

good point actually
people who "work hard" gets better rewards than those who barely play the game

[covert lintel]

Can we achieve 1rl if we change biscuit to another clip rl

[tropic summit]

probably

not

you still need feed

[covert lintel]

But i'd probably die without biscuit

[candid knoll]

what should i look for Sanis OL lines in PVP ?

[unique wagon]

I heard Emma's taunt doesnt work in PvP?

[severe tundra]

Anyone have any suggestions on how to counter this?

[spare nimbus]

My scarlet has 36% ammo, she should be able to avoid siren stun right?

[coarse lake]

think so, but your scar is also losing a full stack of atk buff at any speed

[gritty ridge]

Any 2rl team with siren

[swift mango]

Not like they would reset or anything.

nah, it's rookie, just hit you near reset everyday and you can't pass him at all.

How fast a whale grow.

[swift mango]

wut do you mean? Oh well I skip her so not like I care.

Theory wise, she might not be able to taunt SG and SR.

[quartz rover]

how should I order my team?

they made a very padded team so I had to put in a bunch of high power nikke and then tried not to run another mg

ein and rh are linked

also would siren red hood ein be a nuke? or should I burst 3 with someone else

something like this?

[quartz rover]

why is this not even close

I wasted two attempts, thought I had rh first but I put rrh in p1 and she isnt linked so she bursted then died

then swapped rh to p1 thinking it was easy win but not even close

[quick lake]

cp gap? Also, RH in P1 means RH B1,2 & 3 which isnt really good

ur Siren feeds opponent Jackal too

[gritty ridge]

I think its mainly rh bursting all 3 and then dying

Her b2 is extremely detrimental

[quartz rover]

nah not cp gapped

I guess my only choice is to try ein after reset

I don't have a b2 that allows me to not feed or have enough power

[gritty ridge]

Rh b2 is a death sentence, gives her taunt and lifesteal, but no dmg reduction or anything similar

She can outheal 1 maybe 2 units but after that she cant

[quartz rover]

what about this

[umbral crown]

blanc p2

rh p3

[gritty ridge]

Is ein linked?

[quartz rover]

yeah

[umbral crown]

should be

[gritty ridge]

Sometimes siren steals link, safer to ask

[umbral crown]

[quartz rover]

nah my ein has 2x 11 atk ol and siren has less overall atk and 1

[gritty ridge]

Your siren not mega invested? Smh

[umbral crown]

my siren is 0 KM, no investment in skills, OL, Dolls

she is like modernia

[gritty ridge]

Actually, is jackal higher health than your links

[quartz rover]

lowest

[gritty ridge]

Wym lowest

[quartz rover]

she has no doll

also no ol

[gritty ridge]

You will indom jackal

[quartz rover]

thats ok

[gritty ridge]

If it works it works I suppose

[quartz rover]

I hope blancs debuff just allows me to nuke them

[umbral crown]

its true, Ein gonna do the clean

[gritty ridge]

Hopefully

[umbral crown]

start trusting her

[quartz rover]

my ein does have 4ol after all

[gritty ridge]

I dont trust students

[umbral crown]

then do

[quartz rover]

don't you have a built ein too

[gritty ridge]

They only know make bad financial decisions

[umbral crown]

i do

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[umbral crown]

do you

[gritty ridge]

25% atk

[umbral crown]

[quartz rover]

somehow? ein nearly has the lowest hp

[gritty ridge]

I have a good ein and I still beat mc without using her

[umbral crown]

until you meet MC 32 hard

[gritty ridge]

Maybe ill do the same thing again

[umbral crown]

nah

[gritty ridge]

I didnt even see the slippers on my clear

[umbral crown]

normal MC is easy

[quartz rover]

wish I had some r rl dolls

[gritty ridge]

Low clear too?

[umbral crown]

the hard is another story

[umbral crown]

no idea, i used ein +cindy and finished really fast

[gritty ridge]

Sr soon dont worry

[quartz rover]

I'll get 5 sg r dolls and 2 sr sg dolls

[umbral crown]

i do not really care or check for clears

[quartz rover]

like last one

[umbral crown]

i just auto and hope for the best

[gritty ridge]

I mald cuz I dont wanna wait

[gritty ridge]

And it usually leaves me on lowest clear board

[umbral crown]

you at 501 with a well built Ein gonna pass MC 32 hard

[gritty ridge]

I need like 2 more r rl dolls

[iron jungle]

Hi guys, I'm sorry to bother.

Could someone help me cook up some teams with my roster?

Sorry, I put them in reverse order lol

[quick lake]

Doro Drake Naga Tove Mana
Tia Scarlet Liter Blanc Alice
Auto

Wishlist: Noah Centi Trina Rumani
HelmT ASAP plz
Missing key pvp units, dont expect to defend

[iron jungle]

Ty, I appreciate it.

Any chance I can sneak a win on defense by swapping teams? 😅

[quick lake]

Possibly. But u’re missing alot of burst gen unit. If ur opponent knows how to pvp, u can never defend too

Just focus on Campaign. Too early to worry too much bout pvp

[iron jungle]

Thank you I appreciate your time

[worldly remnant]

Here’s my current units and current teams. This good enough or should i make some moves?

[quick lake]

Teams are bad can send full roster in horizontal mode if u need help. Else can refer to teams in Pins

[worldly remnant]

Oh damn lol. One sec

I tried to fit everyone neatly…

[quick lake]

Scarlet Laplace Trina RH Jackal
Rumani Noah Cindy THelm A2
Blanc SBS biscuit Noir Liter

pvp units quite under-built.
Rumani 4/4/4
Trina 4/10/4
Noise 4/4/7
xMaiden 4/10/4
Centi 4/4/4
All pvp units should be 4OL +0 minimally

See teams in Pins for more pvp teams

[quartz rover]

is my team faster?

[worldly remnant]

Much appreciated.
My rookie arena team is
Scarlet, Noah, RH, Biscuit, and Jackal.
It keeps me in top 4, so i assume that’s good?

[grizzled bone]

[quick lake]

Trina is BiS for all Scarlet teams. So typically Scar-Trina-Jackal, as per pins

Rookie is for funsies anyways

[quick lake]

Rare Caishen appearance

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro @dim escarp Void did lose a couple, I took back most of my points but had to let Void know I was there

[obtuse dagger]

umhhh what happened to my poli?

[worldly remnant]

Thanks again. I’m not a pvp tryhard, but i’ve lost to people way weaker than me, so i figured i should ask.

[grizzled bone]

Came to lurk while drunk

[grizzled bone]

Which team is yours

[quartz rover]

the bottom

it's also this, I forgot to swap in the deck thing

[shell hazel]

you stun Moran (their only b1) with Siren so gg

[quartz rover]

wont rh burst 1 if moran dies

[quick lake]

Are u done building ur stall team

[shell hazel]

stun not dead

mine? not quite, but it's good enough for CA

need to do some more rolls and such

also rapi can only swap to b1 if the team has burst at all, which it won't have done

I don't really see how you lose that on equal cp once your indom fires it's very gg

[quartz rover]

my indom is on jackal

if I had a rl doll that may change

[shell hazel]

either way they'll burst very late thanks to siren stunned moran

it's a 3 sec stun

so if you burst quicker you may just wipe em out, indom on jackal or non

[quartz rover]

also surprised they managed to get 3.5 rl

[shell hazel]

not that surprised anis is high burst gen and drake is clip sg

70% of 3RL with just those 2

[steady sierra]

hmm still lost, is CP gap too big?

[hollow eagle]

not only is there cp gap, P1 scar with no Jackal

[quick lake]

yes, CP gap too big. Needs to be less than 15.4% difference

[steady sierra]

Does it even matter? This team is way over 2RL according to calculator

[hollow eagle]

I know it is 2RL, scar most likely wont even survive till she burst, Trina invul is great and all, the stat diff gonna handed her ass in a couple sec

[steady sierra]

I skipped the fight too bad

[tacit crypt]

bro...

[hollow eagle]

I've run this variation of scar without Jackal alot, after Trina invul gone, scar ded in 1 sec

[shell hazel]

the whales are built diff though you're 537 with no doll on noise, noah, or biscuit lol

[tacit crypt]

just sr doll or +15 doll?

[shell hazel]

I have noise/noah SR-15 and biscuit SR-5

SR-5 is budget spec

[steady sierra]

so do I replace jackal with rumani here? Does it make both team better?

[shell hazel]

in the end your SPA teams should ideally all be at least SR-5 with 4 basic OL on

and some units need more like Scarlet, or higher skill levels than 4/4/4

[hollow eagle]

sure, but put sanis in P2 at least and make sure this team is 2 or 2.5RL

[quick lake]

Its mostly a CP differenece. Nothing much u can do deficit pvp is different

[tacit crypt]

even built, lose is absolute with almost 100% cp gap, of course he/she/they is top 1 in group

[shell hazel]

it won't help you beat this guy as they massively gap you but lack of doll/invest will hurt you against people you are in range of

[steady sierra]

hm k

[shell hazel]

so I'd still recommend investing anyway unless you want to get beaten by people at a similar sync to you 😛

[hollow eagle]

just swapped over to a new team

[tacit crypt]

how much charge speed u build for each ovl slot is ideal

[shell hazel]

it's not really as simple as that, sometimes charge speed isn't even needed necessarily

[steady sierra]

I'm such a PvP casual, I just realized the golden chips give you more attacks. My account is bricked since I'm like 7 months behind everyone but after playing diligently for so long, I somewhat caught up.

[shell hazel]

get basic OL done first, add a single rock for cp/stats to begin with

[hollow eagle]

golden chip?

[shell hazel]

worry about rolling for charge speed later

[steady sierra]

SP Arena Chips. I thought when the "attack" was greyed out I couldn't do anything but spend gems

[hollow eagle]

oh the free chips they gave us a long time ago

[shell hazel]

you only get chips by buying them with gems

[steady sierra]

they don't refill?

[shell hazel]

we were given some a while back

[steady sierra]

Idk I had 4 for some reason

[hollow eagle]

nah the ones you have are from a while back with bugs, they compensate us

[shell hazel]

we all got 4 yeah

don't rush to spend em imo, they can be useful as having one lets you see what teams people have if your free attempts are done

[steady sierra]

I'm like in a 4 way battle for top 10, we're like trading spots over and over heh.

[shell hazel]

I see my top 10 changing a lot as well it's pretty competitive out there

[steady sierra]

all these arena tryhards have like frame 1-2 soloraid

[shell hazel]

you sacrifice something somewhere to invest more in pvp

[steady sierra]

a lot of people don't even play soloraid, some don't even have frames for a few of them. I've been frame 3 since OG Kraken, at like sync 200ish

[shell hazel]

I only ever get frame 2 atm

never had frame 3, one day I'll get one

[swift mango]

I mean, my synch level is 451 and my scarlet team CP is same as yours.

[swift mango]

You are in luck, global is the easiest server to get frame 3.

[steady sierra]

Few OL-less Nikke's. Haven't paid attention to PvP since account is bricked

[molten arch]

I'm a noob at PVP. Can someone recommend 1-2 teams that I could use with my roster? Right now I use Red hood, Centi, Scarlet:BS, Jackal and Biscuit

[tacit crypt]

didn't know have it

[fathom rock]

Nononononononono

[graceful grotto]

Njce

I got the silver one, now gonna aim the gold one

[glad glade]

Same. From what I heard, gold is a bit easier to get

[fathom rock]

Sure

[hollow lagoon]

How does bro ping me the moment I wake up

[fathom rock]

[hollow lagoon]

[fathom rock]

Kick 1st place unless he told you ahwad of time

Why sync 537 kill a 2b hp boss, and what happened in t3
Actually forget that why are most kills of low hp done by high syncers

[hollow lagoon]

We don’t communicate

[fathom rock]

How havent yall kicked 16 day inactive

[hollow lagoon]

Not the leader

All I can do is make this and bug him

Which worked since we were 1.8% now we 1.07

[fathom rock]

Have lead make a discord server

[hollow lagoon]

We have one but most of the high sync ain’t in it

Cuz, ain’t mandatory

[swift mango]

Not easier, but if you can't get it you lose nothing.

[glad glade]

Nah ik. Its more like people swear that getting a winning cheer streak is easier than getting a losing one. My personal theory is that a losing streak requires an extra step in the thinking process (he will win —> opponent will lose), which makes it more cognitively taxing

[swift mango]

It's normal for synch 550 to kill 2b boss or even only deal 4b bro. Guess staying in Section for awhile made you delulu.

[fathom rock]

It aint about section
My na has less lost dmg than that

[dim escarp]

[fathom rock]

Same rank but mostly sync 300s

[swift mango]

Idk how you never stay in a casual union even with a newbie account but okay.

[fathom rock]

I still have contact with my global casual union, they be losing less dmg than that

[swift mango]

I have seen synch 501 in my current union deal 600m.

[fathom rock]

[swift mango]

What lose dmg?

[fathom rock]

So casual lah

[swift mango]

Still rank 43. So I guess your NA newbie account got to even higher rank.

[fathom rock]

Nah it 1%, we dont have dmg for top 100 with how many sync 300s and 200s in it

[swift mango]

Rakuen carried hard with all his hits above 10b each.

[fathom rock]

Rakuen chad

[steady sierra]

What's the point in even keeping track, these runs are cooked

[swift mango]

It's good for his kind of union of keep track of who doesn't hit to warn and kick at less.

Low dmg deal is a thing but it's about 0 dmg.

[steady sierra]

then again Nikke's playerbase on paper seems pretty high but trying to find someone who puts in the effort is like impossible

Union I'm in been trying to find someone for months, but then again we have some issues going on as well. So the sweats only go to the super sweat unions

[swift mango]

Low effort =/= zero effort. 0 dmg don't deserve a spot in any union.

[shell hazel]

Ysteri will need to send more than indom SBS/Scarlet for me to lose on attack, same team I send beats both

[steady sierra]

the footnote for "bro needs help" is more insulting than not hitting tbh

[shell hazel]

I have set a new defence (not a real team I'd use in SPA again but hey I'm mostly messing with Void still) 😄

[swift mango]

At least it's not a candidate to kick

[shell hazel]

should change it to "put on performance management" lol

the corpo version of bro needs help

impressive numbers from bugocomm considering they're like halfway down the list as well lol

[tropic summit]

what UR rank did your union get on ur main btw

[quick lake]

Damn, exposed

[shell hazel]

I need more materials to build m.mast

Railtracer needs to stop eating all my rocks

[quick lake]

Why yall no kick peeps

[shell hazel]

I'm going to do it though, I've decided. M.mast will get at least a basic enough build to be usable

I can use her to help in Elysion tower, she can go in my raids, and I can even use her in campaign if I get her strong enough

she's SR-5 7/7/6 with all t9m gear just need to overload it and boost doll/skills a bit

[quick lake]

mast sr5 enough alr

i dont sr15 MG/SMG units

[shell hazel]

yeah it would mainly be for cp if I decide to do it

I can see myself using her for a long time, I mean even if maid duo gets powercrept a bit, they'll still be wanted in raids

[fathom rock]

Global got 52nd
Someone might get booted 🍿

[tropic summit]

you? noway

if they boot a malder i'm scared how more malders are the other malders

[shell hazel]

they can't boot me I'm not in the guild

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-gif-6497153096045529135

[fathom rock]

I am like the 2nd weakest in the union gear and lvl wise but i know how to play well

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

The union isnt really full of malders im just a low lvl

[tropic summit]

oh so synchro plays way more of an impact uh

[shell hazel]

and how do we boost that Rail?

[tropic summit]

daily reminder of one of the many things i hate about this game

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[quick lake]

Yeah, syncro still decently big factor

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[shell hazel]

the most powerful ability in the game

[quick lake]

I realised the 200+ rocks into pvp bricks my pvE

[fathom rock]

What about genevis sounds like a chill backup plan

[tropic summit]

they are, decent perfomance for absolute chillax

gotta thank @umbral crown for the invite

[shell hazel]

what rank do you get in UR Rail?

[fathom rock]

Nah not rlly you can recover there cuz not much active competition
But the opposite is truw if you main pvp with the insane builds they chasing prolly

[shell hazel]

not bad 🙂

[fathom rock]

Very nice

[strange linden]

Is Nero/Moran team goal is to stall enough time to get a second burst?

[fathom rock]

The goal is stalling till win, 2nd burst is just a matter of whether its needed

You can win bwfore 2nd burst or drag yourself into 3rd one
Based on matchup

[tropic summit]

yes and no, glass cannons can die within 1st cycle
sustain/stall oriented will get to 2nd cycle and outstalled
mirror will depend on the variant

[fathom rock]

Bro someone just ping me cuz they ran moran nero against cindy team, got 3rd burst and lost

[shell hazel]

that would be 🍿 to see lol

[tropic summit]

probably invest difference

[strange linden]

I tried it Nero/Moran/Quiry/Rapunzel/THelm on rookie with Nero half invested, Moran almost fully invested and quiry with no gears against a Scarlet jackal team

Nero died a after the first burst but Rapunzel manage to revive her and I quickly kill them with THelm burst

[tropic summit]

and that's just a baby nero moran

[shell hazel]

built moran is damn tanky

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1403832526107050055/image.png?ex=6899a52c&is=689853ac&hm=def4051955bb6649d7f5abc5f04062b477b89a2fe5d29742687fb621c8728ad0& thats all i have

[shell hazel]

wonder how Ysteri does again my moran later 😄

[tropic summit]

ye that's invest issue

although biscuit wasn't needed there

he's running a weaker variant that lacks DPS

[shell hazel]

biscuit makes them quite slow cs dependant as well

[fathom rock]

sad

[shell hazel]

you need CS to get back to 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

tell em to replace biscuit with laplace and he'll see it improve

[shell hazel]

LapT or xMaiden should be decent there

[quick lake]

Nero needs sr15 and 10/10/x. Nero shouldnt die at all most of the time

She’s usually last to die

[shell hazel]

damn my nero was just tanking RH fire in the last CA 😄

[fathom rock]

We made bro give up btw

Im holding c4 quite well

[tropic summit]

for now*

[fathom rock]

Plsnocaplsnocaplsnoca

[tropic summit]

he just needs to google

let's hope he doesn't

[strange linden]

Dayum, well she is just 7/7/7, R0 and no OL gear leveled for now but I'll continue on investing on her
Tired of always losing in SP

[fathom rock]

I think he already did with how those def were made

Rn he wasting attempts hitring big whales to get c3

I just wait till he strikes then i strike him

He smort dont spend gems

[tropic summit]

yeah smart indeed

[fathom rock]

He gets 2.7k regardless
Ill join em

[shell hazel]

it's a high invest comp just for SPA

[fathom rock]

If emilia reruna how many peep here get c7

[shell hazel]

can never afford c7

MLB is usually good enough as dolphin

[strange linden]

It's a matter of 300 gems for me
Waking up to see 10h of being C7 instead of C4

[tropic summit]

i'll leave her to 0 most likely

[strange linden]

Also I can do CA

[fathom rock]

Pve enjoyer rail

[shell hazel]

they need to find a way to let you dupe cores for collab units

[quick lake]

Should start saving rocks and gems for Emi

[tropic summit]

knowing my luck trying for dupes it's just gonna backfire

[shell hazel]

it would be simple to add collab spare body for all collab units during any collab, 200 gold mileage

[fathom rock]

My competition has it so i gotta have it too 🧩

[shell hazel]

yeah I built mine but I also CA with it

[fathom rock]

But then less fomo lead to less profit

[strange linden]

I also wish we can which team def lost

[quick lake]

My bracket SPA was an arms race. Suddenly everyone has sr15 jackal

[shell hazel]

still a cost there, or maybe pulling on a collab banner gets you a special additional currency for the dupes

[shell hazel]

I may have SR-15 Jackal

[quick lake]

Me too

[fathom rock]

I may do the same

[shell hazel]

I probably won't SR-15 other batteries for now

centi/rumani etc are OK at SR-5 I think

[fathom rock]

I am getting cs on jackal rip my pve

[shell hazel]

but I figure jackal is more of a tank than the others

anyone taking hits more I wanted at SR-15 basically

[fathom rock]

C7 trina

[quick lake]

Many cs%

[strange linden]

I feel like everyone has rosanna since they used it on DEF so my scarlet/jackal always get rekt but I can't prove it

[shell hazel]

looking good, I need to add some more CS in places for sure

I have fairly built Ros, it's one unit I have built that not everyone will bother doing

she has same cp as my RH lol

[quick lake]

[shell hazel]

ah no a bit under almost the same

ah cube dependant...

[quick lake]

My Rosanna took 50 rocks just to get 4x atk

start of my pvp journey

[shell hazel]

with same cubes she has a little more cp, like 2k more

[quick lake]

Rosanna stronk

[shell hazel]

I love her, one of my fav units and acts very much as a wildcard in a team

I mainly got a copy of s.ros because I liked her base version 😄

b1 sorted by power

[tropic summit]

rosanna on steroids

[quick lake]

My Tove almost highest CP

[shell hazel]

yeah she's awesome

[steady sierra]

Gem rewards are better for PvP anyways. But it is a bit stinky to waste resources on such a terrible game mode

[quick lake]

Yeah. Game mode kinda stinky. Its fun every once in a while

[shell hazel]

we each make that choice of where we send resources, I burn mine mostly on pvp and campaign

[quick lake]

If ur bracket is super sweaty, it aint fun

[shell hazel]

I campaign mald up there with the best of them for my level/sync

but also pvp mald

my raids suffer a bit as a result but it's not like I do no damage

just rapi team is 50% of my dps 😄

rapi team 50% - other 4 teams other 50%

[steady sierra]

I am at the point where I am not going to be making any more gains from solo raid anyways, it's mostly just RNG if I get an element I have better OL for. If my sync gets more competitive in SP Arena, I'll be dumping some rocks there too

[shell hazel]

your pvp invest is def a bit low as you're cp gapped by buy who is only in next bracket above

[quick lake]

I was behind in sync (due to bad campaign pushing). Started to wipeout and finally caught up

[shell hazel]

but for SPA only, you only require 3 teams, so mix of campaign units + some pvp ones invested is enough there

[quick lake]

Yeah, SPA is only the same handful of units

[shell hazel]

I mean HelmT works in both, as does Cindy, RH, SBS etc

[steady sierra]

It's just my scarlet team a bit low, I am 1.1mil CP on other two teams which is kinda what I expect to be around without CP padding

[shell hazel]

Scarlet needs a fair bit of invest herself but kind of useful in elec weak raids sometimes

otherwise just some into core batteries to SR-5 and 4/4/4 with 4 base OL is enough to get started

Jackal | Rumani | Trina | Centi | Noah

those 5 can be used in various teams

[steady sierra]

I was waaay behind in sync a while back but since I've been playing, I don't think I've missed like even a week worth of idle resources in almost 2 years

[shell hazel]

oh and Noise if you want Cindy comp to use her

9 months ish now don't think I missed even a day yet

mald mald mald 😄

[steady sierra]

Yeah... It's the only path for me tbh if I want to get rewards from arena

login twice everyday to make sure I don't even miss a % of resoruces

[shell hazel]

be nice if outpost went to say 30 hours so you could just do daily if you wanted

[steady sierra]

it goes over now, but less efficient

[quick lake]

It used to be 12h early on in the game need to log in twice a day to collect

[shell hazel]

star rail recently upped the stamina from 240 to 300

yeah twice per day mandatory is rough

[quick lake]

r1999, stamina is 199/199. Annoyed not 200

[shell hazel]

I tried that game but couldn't quite get into it

[quick lake]

There’s an Assassin Creed collab now, pretty good

[shell hazel]

on the lookout for a new game to play when a good one comes along but my requirements are casual/easy to play/do dailies

yeah I saw that was mentioned

[steady sierra]

don't even get me started with hardmode malding just to get like 1-2 cores more every hour. Behemoth is annoying, didn't even attempt it. But it wasn't as lame as Mirror Container roadblock

[quick lake]

new gachas coming amount soonz

I only cleared Behe at 521 low ele problem

[steady sierra]

yeah planning to go at 521... I am just hoping that I am too weak so I don't have to do hardmode stages for a few hours before I am stuck again

think 541 to clear the previous end of hardmode campaign is pretty doable. Not sure what is the requirement for new stages tho

[shell hazel]

one of my union mates just did that 34 hm boss yesterday, they're sync 516

and now they're at end of 35

[steady sierra]

Yeah it's doable, there's records of 481s to cleared it. Just if you want to mald or not

[quick lake]

521 can go until 36 iirc

[steady sierra]

also with decent enough lines

[shell hazel]

they might be waiting for 521 as it's only a few syncs away

as for me all of this is miles out lol, 365 sync and I got cd still for about 2 levels more, before it's just normal levels again

so 367 in a few days maybe

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Union leader is too sentimental, so we gotta let him know what’s really going on, like he though that 1.7b sync 467 was a big damage dealer

[quick lake]

we keep track too so i cant invest all my rocks into pvp

[swift mango]

The recent long event time to farm stage 11 hard making my Credit boxes sink down more and more.

[shell hazel]

just say you keep getting 0 rocks over and over from Kraken

[hollow lagoon]

I have free rein on what I invest in because I’m the only one in union that gets Into CA

[onyx scaffold]

will i win?

[shell hazel]

meh the pvp currency is pointless still

if they added more cool stuff into the arena store like gear xp or something it would be better

atm I just get more than I can spend on the elemental books

[swift mango]

With the average dmg of your union you won't be kicked until EoS.

[shell hazel]

until nikke 2.0

[hollow lagoon]

true

[swift mango]

Wishful thinking.

[onyx scaffold]

will i be cooked before i can even burst?

[swift mango]

Seriously you would win.

Move RH to p4 if still doubt.

[steady sierra]

Nah I didn't mean anything by it. Nikke is an idle game so most of the playerbase are casuals. I was just saying is it necessary to keep record at that point with the performance of so many

[grand plaza]

For some reason enemy Helm nukes RH instead of Helm, and this is the team. Am I missing something?

[quick lake]

HIghest atk takes into account atk% OLs as well

Need to manually add in atk% OLs

[onyx scaffold]

Idle game doesn't make casual playerbase.

U cannot tell me genshin players are tryhard ppl.
Mobile game is what make casual players

[grand plaza]

Hmm yeah, %6 vs %27..

[shell hazel]

if you truly want to compete - yes

if people are incentivised to do more damage and such they will, especially if not gets them yeeted out

[steady sierra]

idle games, mobile games, I put them all in the same category

Honestly, you get less gameplay playing genshin daily than nikke. So which game is truly the idle one

[shell hazel]

it depends what you're looking for really, but if everyone just yolo auto battles all the raid bosses and doesn't try, then no one will get the clears/rewards

[onyx scaffold]

Nikke is pseudo idle.
Idle means u afk and still grow resources
In nikke, skipping daily punish you hard.
5 event attempts = 20h cd

[steady sierra]

Nikke is honestly a sweaty game, with the game modes and mechanics compared to most mainstream gachas

but the demographic is inherently casual

[onyx scaffold]

But I know a lot ppl dont do anything beside reading event story

Like no matter how weak you are. U can still finish the event with trial units

[steady sierra]

The reason why I quit was because I didn't read anything. Now I watch all the campaign and most story events, I can get invested enough to sweat and play long term.

Nikke is an awful gacha game if you don't enjoy the story imo.

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029436235766308985.png?v=1

You will be surprised when knowing a lot ppl skipping story

[quick lake]

nikke story already so short

[steady sierra]

Well they're the same people at like chapter 15 normal at sync 400 and doesn't even participate in soloraid to finish level 1-10 for rewards

and login like once a week or something

[quick lake]

As long as they enjoy the game ig

[onyx scaffold]

Lv700 in gold union and frame 1 solo raid

[shell hazel]

perfectly fine for people to play how they want, but if they don't want to put any effort into the raids they shouldn't be in a more serious union

getting carried/afk/skipping tries etc, may as well join a more casual one

so zanta tracking stats makes sense, any serious union should because it highlights people who aren't the same mindset

[steady sierra]

not saying they aren't allowed to play and not even do the auto skip normal campaign. but I don't consider them as an active player

[shell hazel]

there are people in my union who do less damage than me that are higher sync etc as well

it's kind of balanced by the people who do way more than me atm, and I am not an officer or anything, as long as I clear day 1 normal mode I'm happy enough atm

get 95% of the battery materials then

[onyx scaffold]

frame I collector

[shell hazel]

it's like top 10% in co-op is most of em

game is generally fine for reasonably active casuals

[steady sierra]

I pity the CN players, that's Chinese characters not JP surely... They're playing on perma lag so I wouldn't hold it against them for not playing competitively. Bro is loaded anyways, his currency exchange is hella expensive

[onyx scaffold]

I dont know what you mean with that when 7/8 guys in my CA bracket are cn

[shell hazel]

I see a lot of CN in CA as well

[steady sierra]

they play via something called game accelator, apparently it's very laggy

[grand plaza]

I was winning against someone with this team constantly, Crown was dying, Siren was stunning Drake, then I was bursting and win.

Now enemy Helm burst right before my RH B2 and I lose. Anything I can do about this?

Second one enemy team btw, 430k vs 470k CP

[steady sierra]

anyways most of the top guys are macroing anyways, so you don't really need to be doing much manual playing

[onyx scaffold]

Bring Noah

[grand plaza]

Me not have

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

is this in SPA?

[grand plaza]

Yep

[shell hazel]

is it 2nd or 3rd team? is an issue with how siren ammo carries over and it can bring forward their burst

it seems to count previously fired ammo as well from the other round(s)

so on paper they may be 4RL but in reality it could be siren ammo thingy making it faster

[grand plaza]

WUT O_O This is a bug?

[shell hazel]

yeah someone mentioned it before

so maybe skip this time and focus the other two

[grand plaza]

Bug of this patch? Honestly I couldn't understand whats it anyway

[shell hazel]

maybe it's bug arena after all lol

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle you passed me in hard

also getting 2 hrs of sleep when you gotta take care of dogs and bathe them was a bad idea

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-shiba-comfort-comforting-it's-ok-gif-10989746082817577443

[umbral belfry]

ty for your motivation rail

i'll try my best

[swift mango]

I'm still at 32-6

[tropic summit]

stop slackin'

come get walled by pure cancer boss node

[covert lintel]

go 35

[swift mango]

I check core dust bench mark and looks like I have less core dust/hour than it showed.

Very weird

[covert lintel]

Which boss 32 is ?

[onyx scaffold]

[swift mango]

Nah, I started 28 days after you, I'm not slacking.

Either ex stage counted toward core dust hourly now or the core dust bench,ark dude is slipping

[onyx scaffold]

[tropic summit]

but aren't you like 20 levels ahead of me

[onyx scaffold]

you slack

[tropic summit]

eh you think? is 441 enough to beat that?

[swift mango]

I'm not missing any stage.

Double check more than 2 time already. His new number is wrong.

31-34 is 89. While I'm at 32-6 only 88

[onyx scaffold]

481 if u invest in cindy heavily
for blood, i bet he need 521

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

His old number was always correct for me. This time it's really weird.

[onyx scaffold]

i can double check for you. what is your campaign at

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

done 40 and 32-6

[tropic summit]

Blood's

[onyx scaffold]

nvm the tool is not updated

[swift mango]

32-5 is the one I cleared. 32-6 is the one I didnt clear

[tropic summit]

he's 451

with boxes leftovers i could also 451

[drowsy bridge]

Hard campaign in the 27+ started to power level creep so much faster. I was saddened

[tropic summit]

@swift mango why am i catching up to you

[swift mango]

🧱

[tropic summit]

[onyx scaffold]

u should be at 483 outpost

hold

492

yeah

[swift mango]

Like I said I checked all of 39 and 40.

[onyx scaffold]

490 then

[swift mango]

No mob left

[onyx scaffold]

what was your outpost before clearing them?

[tropic summit]

how?

[swift mango]

My progression was correct with his old chart but his new chart now correct.

[onyx scaffold]

why 499 u brick

[swift mango]

32-32

[onyx scaffold]

it should be 500

[unique wagon]

@swift mango Vesti instant is as fast as Cindy (22F per shot)

[swift mango]

See, you are also 89 not 90 like the chart said.

[tropic summit]

there's a cancer stage i can't clear atm

[onyx scaffold]

see? the chart is correct

only one stage?

[tropic summit]

this one

[swift mango]

It's not. He already clear 32-31 and still not 90.

Oh nvm

But that doesn't mean the chart is correct

[onyx scaffold]

i mean he misses 1-2 stages
u miss 2 outpost levels = 10 stages

[unique wagon]

Wrong chat

[onyx scaffold]

rh b1?

helm out. use siren

[tropic summit]

go back to your cave

[onyx scaffold]

rh main b1
siren sub b1
rapi alice b3

[tropic summit]

for that stage?

[swift mango]

I'm already 5 stage pass the check points. And I never missed any stage with the old chart before this update.

[onyx scaffold]

ok dude

[swift mango]

There couldn't be any hidden 10 stage in map 39-40 is there?

[unique wagon]

Wow rude

[swift mango]

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

kindly go back to your cave*

[onyx scaffold]

i mean missing 2 3 stages is possible. but missing 2 levels, there must be something sus here

[unique wagon]

Ruder

[tropic summit]

[unique wagon]

How fast is Cindy in PvP

[tropic summit]

i'm pve main i wouldn't know

[quick lake]

0.367s per shot i think

[swift mango]

my rapipi 2 ele line, I'm also pve main.

[unique wagon]

Bro repented

[tropic summit]

pve main with 4 CA wins

[swift mango]

3

[onyx scaffold]

possible

[unique wagon]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

that's very different isn't it

[unique wagon]

Vesti's first shot lands at Frame 68 then, and her 4th attack lands at Frame 101.

[tropic summit]

why is Kise working on sunday

[onyx scaffold]

within top 10 global players, 4 of them have all frame 3

[tropic summit]

look at that b4stial

[onyx scaffold]

he has all frame 3

[tropic summit]

what a madlad

[unique wagon]

At 2 RL:

• B1: Frame 88-90
• B2: Frame 104-105
• B3: Frame 120ish

So a slightly better Laplace.

[quick lake]

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[unique wagon]

<@&946725432554836008>

[onyx scaffold]

bot deletes them automatically

[real ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-cinderella-murasaki-gif-10995239731836194215

[swift mango]

491 is 89 now.

Darn I wasted tons of box didn't know I only need to manual 5 stages.

[unique wagon]

TVesti Summary:

• Advantage against Wind.
• Damage without TEunhwa/TEmma ≈ LaplaceTr @ 3 shots.
• TVesti completes her attack in 3.366s, BEFORE the B2 of 2 RL triggers (no CS on 2 RL).
• LaplaceTr completes her attack in 3.633s, AFTER the B2 of 2 RL triggers.
• TVesti with TEmma + TEunhwa = Stonks (instant buffs/debuffs).
• TVesti hits P1 P2 P3.

Use cases:

• P1/P2/P3 pressure + "ok" wipe if Burst Skill is used
• Sniping P1 P2 P3 esp. if Wind (whether with or without TEmma/TEunhwa)
• Burst gen (slightly better than average RL but have weird timings)

[unique wagon]

This is PvP chat

[onyx scaffold]

yeah. no place for vesti

[fathom rock]

Just a bit of cs

[unique wagon]

She can counter unprotected Noah/SBS/Blanc without CS @ 2 RL, and unconditionally counters unprotected Noah/SBS/Blanc/Siren @ 3 RL.

[swift mango]

Any chance that there's 10 hidden stage in map 39-40

That are out of view?

[unique wagon]

Maybe. Check inside buildings.

Maybe you miss not in those 2 chapters.

[swift mango]

I only did ch39-40 and 5 last stage of map 31 in the
last month

[unique wagon]

SBS Blanc Jackal comp perishes in front of TVesti.

[swift mango]

plus 10 more of map 32

[unique wagon]

Unfortunately, they fixed Distributed Damage.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1098653794109243402/1201186095174537336/1694566892404775205.gif

[covert lintel]

Weren't you always wipe out?

[swift mango]

How tf I go inside this @raven plover house to look for the 10 mobs?.

[unique wagon]

Some chapters have indoor and outdoor areas.

[swift mango]

After I clear normal mode for the first time

[swift mango]

Like I said, for the n time, my progress with the last chart was correct. And the last 1 month I only clear ch39-40

I can't get in.

[unique wagon]

Maybe you just miscalculated

[drowsy bridge]

Please teach me your ways lol

[swift mango]

See I even collect all the treasure myself no through guide. 14/14 and max every maps. How I am I missing mobs in building but not these tiny thing that I had to go every maps 3 times to find.?

[unique wagon]

Whats ur hard campaign

[swift mango]

32-10

[unique wagon]

You cant hit 102/h

[swift mango]

The chart is wrong or @raven plover hid 10 mobs in his house.

[swift mango]

This is about 89 mileage

[covert lintel]

Btw How come i can't search someone's profile in blabla link
Even if they are set privacy to private, they should be visible when i search their name

[unique wagon]

Idk maybe just enter every teleport u can see.

[swift mango]

I did, that's how I got maxed out collection every map.

I went around each map 2-4 times.

[unique wagon]

Then the chart is wrong

[swift mango]

I did left 1 mob in ch20 hard untouched though.

[quick lake]

check normal stages 👀

[swift mango]

So I could 1 nikke it later.

[swift mango]

But I think I went back to killed it too in frustrating with my pulls.

[unique wagon]

He probably left 10 stages in some chapters and had amnesia

[quick lake]

yeah, i had random mobs left over too

[swift mango]

how can I have amnesia when my progression before this update has always been correct with the chart.

I rechecked map 39-40 more than 2 times. So maybe I'm blind and missed 10 somewhere.

[unique wagon]

Yes you are. Or the chart is wrong. Take a gamble.

[covert lintel]

I'm sure that was defense stage

[unique wagon]

Either waste time searching, or do nothing.

[swift mango]

I already report to the guy who made guide, Idk why I must explain for you here.

[unique wagon]

Again, either waste time explaining to me, or do nothing.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Not I'm not waste anymore time on this topic.

[tropic summit]

that's not me it's @swift mango

[swift mango]

That's not me either.

[tropic summit]

3 instead of 4*

[swift mango]

@raven plover instead.

[umbral crown]

Even third if possible

[swift mango]

I'm bricked

[unique wagon]

@swift mango whats ur OD before you start clearing 39-40

[unique wagon]

What does Yonexxi mean its such a cute name

I might as well replace all my names everywhere with Kisenyan.

I have data @swift mango answer me

[unique wagon]

This data can prove if chart is wrong or ure wrong

[umbral crown]

[unique wagon]

why does this chat hate me so much recently

@swift mango the chart is correct

If u full clear up to 32-10 + ch 40 normal, youd be 493 2/5 right now.

You are missing 12 chapters.

[strange linden]

If we both use nero/moran
What happen? Timeout ?

[umbral crown]

The one with better investment wins

See how my nero never die