pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

for scarlet team run

noah biscuit cind helm rumani

you'll get noah and rumani invulnerable, helm dies to rosanna, cindy nukes and wipes them

for sbs team run rosanna if available to kill both SBS and emilia

rosanna 7/10/10 20-40%atk with laplaceT splash should kill SBS
helmt is 1hitko as long as ur rosanna has ele%

[hollow lagoon]

man atleast he outperformed sync 286

[rain totem]

@tropic summit thank you kind sir that freed up my jackel to help my scarlet team win

[tropic summit]

nice good job

[gritty ridge]

Im so close to beating mc and progression diffing my bracket

[lunar pawn]

so close and yet so far

[hollow lagoon]

bro going for the whole thing

[placid bloom]

hmm 32 ammo not safe against Mermaid in rookie

[eager mountain]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

ye i barely played there

when i was active at least

[eager mountain]

guess we cant play online then rip

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/sour-lemon-poputepipikku-lick-pop-team-epic-gif-16566362

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lemon-fail-grab-cute-gif-6119523

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jjba-jotaro-eating-orange-jotaro-stardust-crusaders-orange-gif-18032306

[quartz rover]

I'm holding them back

unless they gem i'm staying up here baby

[swift mango]

If you ever feel dumb, just remembered I spent 30 x 1 rock roll on a single charge speed line after 1(+boxes) rock every single day for a month, (2 in double day).

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Kinda give up on this game rock roll, just do it because it was necessary. But getting over 11% basically took me an arm an a leg each time is just too much.

When other people getting 18% easily

[umbral crown]

Thanks for the info

[swift mango]

my bay already maxed this season but I only used her for healing so s1 is enough

basically 160 mats conversion wasted

[eager mountain]

so yall treasure bay over poli

[umbral crown]

Yeah

[covert lintel]

No, poli first

[umbral crown]

Bay gave me the win, poli would never (if she was this season ofc)

[eager mountain]

shoes for the win

[umbral crown]

This

That poli was treasured and the last survivor

[eager mountain]

got clip?

[covert lintel]

Wrong position
Should be p5

[umbral crown]

This fight was 2 secs away to get to the time limit

[gritty ridge]

Stall v stall

[umbral crown]

Yeah, im editing in some minute will post it here

Bay there treasured

That variation is strong

[gritty ridge]

Im a fan of moran bay stall cuz its much cheaper

And it counters double buff scar and cindy

[umbral crown]

Have to finish to update the log

[swift mango]

[glad glade]

Me but with Diesel (she refuses to come home)

[umbral crown]

The nero fight is 3 min 20, just get your popcorn ready bois

[swift mango]

What is this? Your own discord?

[umbral crown]

Yeah, did that to save my cooks and all fights so i can see what i can improve

[gritty ridge]

More whale bullying

[swift mango]

I'm not even save my cook over 1 month old.

[umbral crown]

Thats an example

This way you cna guess where people usually place their teams

Thats how i won without biscuit

[swift mango]

I just close my eyes and shuffle

[umbral crown]

Now for next season will study the 8 brackets to come up with an spicy cook that might counter most teams

[eager mountain]

well then just get her

[glad glade]

I tried doing that a few times and ended losing at the T64 every time. Chatgpt gave me better results

[umbral crown]

Waos

[swift mango]

I think I will build SR Anchor for next season. Wish me luck.

[placid bloom]

is this new tech

[umbral crown]

Enjoy the 3 mins 22 sec fight

@eager mountain

I think the longest fight i ever had

[umbral crown]

[eager mountain]

Oh, I meant clip of this

[umbral crown]

Here you go

@eager mountain

[swift mango]

I just realized Emma was supporter all along.

So the dev just kept her original type.

My bad for saying they chicken out and changed it.

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

He thinks doro is better than emi just because she has better cp

[onyx scaffold]

he is not wrong

cp is SpA meta

[drowsy bridge]

Doro is way hotter

[eager mountain]

my ca winner ran sdoro sg

got t3 and t4's clip?
t4 likely due to sbs bug still exist in this ca
t3 mana tanked the nuke ig

[swift mango]

He could probably run original maiden too and would still win.

[covert lintel]

Nah, emi would be hotter if she had a swimsuit

[covert lintel]

Let's see

She doesn't even deal any dmg to my team

Emi was better

[eager mountain]

guess whos better

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

Noah solo my team

[umbral crown]

Boi not cooking, saw in other server you are bullyin him

[umbral crown]

[glad glade]

Doro is underrated in PvP. Basically a mini RH

[vapid mica]

how does siren stun work in rookie she only stun after they have already burst

[coarse lake]

Mini rh = mid

No one seriously relies on even rh as dps anymore

Let alone a rh that insta dies to scar

[glad glade]

True, especially for defense. But in a deficit setting where the opponent doesn’t use an AoE or you use indom, thats where she really shines

[coarse lake]

That applies to half a dozen pve units, rh, Alice, sbs, rapipi, pve invested so high cp

[glad glade]

Fair point

I think you just made me think of something. Imma see if it works when my rival strikes back tmr

[coarse lake]

Anyone have vid of indom doro vs a Noah biscuit

I need to double check target prio for her

[lavish lintel]

so will this team be ok against most things?

Most of my fights is against whales who have a higher CP than me

[crystal flicker]

Tbh those are not "standard" PvP team, you can take deficit until 15.4% to avoid power penalty

[crystal flicker]

Unless I miss something, Siren's stun 2RL B2 0% CS, to avoid stun they need 11% CS on all RL in that team

[tulip wren]

If i may ask..how to build a proper teams for sp arena..which to use and their positions..sorry im new

[crystal flicker]

You should read pinned guides, those pretty much the basic for PvP

Though the current PvP is about burst ASAP + AoE Nuke

There's burst gen sheet somewhere in the pins, you can use that as ref for building your team speed

[tulip wren]

Thanks alot will check those

[unique wagon]

I think Vesti might be good in PvP.

Does A2/nonBurst Emilia hit P3?

[swift mango]

Idk about a2 but Emi hit 1-2-3. That's why she had that burst gen

But event if Vesti similar to Emi her gen in 2rl would still only half of Emi. So nothing to drool over

[unique wagon]

Nah worse

[swift mango]

She also had extra hit just like emi.

[unique wagon]

How many frames is 1 sec in pvp

[swift mango]

1rl is about 1.2-1.3second.

[crystal flicker]

30

[unique wagon]

Why is it 60 here https://nikke.work/

[swift mango]

it's normal game play.

[unique wagon]

Huh

[crystal flicker]

They use 60 for timing purpose

But in game it's 30, unless something changed

[swift mango]

Basically unless she had like 25%cs she gonna only hit 1 time in 2rl
.

[unique wagon]

So Gatrix is right. TVesti can snipe unprotected 2 RL Noah in P1 P2 P3.

[swift mango]

what snipe?
Some bug Idk that make Vesti damage get through Noah invulnerable?

[unique wagon]

Can't. Noah immune too slow. Vesti hits 4 times first. Unless u have CS.

Well if Vesti also has CS not gonna change anything.

[swift mango]

what slow? How tf can she hit 4 times instantly when Cindy can't?

[unique wagon]

? She hits 4 times in 3 seconds.

Cindy is 4 seconds @ 2 RL.

[swift mango]

Even Cindy at 1s charge can only hit 4 times in 2rl. How tf can Vesti hit 3 times instantly right after her first hit?

[unique wagon]

You forgot there is Burst delay sir

Noah is B2 not B1 if B1 she triggers first

Vesti's 4th rocket hits between B1/B2 triggers of 2 RL with 0 charge speed

[swift mango]

There is but I will just wait for those "calculations" to be actually tested.

[unique wagon]

We suspect it's indeed 4 shots in 3 secs (not RL).

[swift mango]

You don't know how fast 2 seconds charge shot is at 100% CS.

There is no precedent

[unique wagon]

Around 0.33s in PvE.

[swift mango]

Then 0.66s in arena.

[unique wagon]

Yes there is a precedent its called Alice

[unique wagon]

Doesnt change

[swift mango]

2+0.66+0.66+0.66= 4

This is not taking into account flying time.

[unique wagon]

Alice auto is idk how fast

Auto Alice is 0.37s per shot.

[swift mango]

Just go in arena a do an indom. She doesn't shot 30 times in 10 seconds, not even close.

[unique wagon]

Alice has cover animation though

[unique wagon]

Flying time is quite fast for TVesti

The 3 shots are almost instant

[swift mango]

So I just wait for her to come out . If she is good then I would see her in CA.

[unique wagon]

Oh she wont

Shes just a niche sniper

And wiper

[swift mango]

Nah. if she is that stronk like you said, she will be meta.

It's not even snipe, it's full wipe.

[unique wagon]

I never said she was strong against anyone else but Noah

[swift mango]

I don't see it happening especially against noah.

unless it's N
naked Noah.

If any unit could kill p3 2RL Invested Noah by Normal attack, that unit will be meta.

[unique wagon]

Then TVesti will be meta

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

Because she can have 100% ELE buff and deal 2.1x more damage against Noah

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

Just imagine LaplaceTr

But now the one dying is not Scarlet but Noah

And SBS

If that matters

[crystal flicker]

Imagine running Biscuitless Noah

[small raptor]

Hi, sorry I got a question. Why my team (bot) cannot beat the team on the top? Is it because my Scarlet is weaker?

[covert lintel]

So many non biscuit in ca

[crystal flicker]

Charge speed difference imo

[crystal flicker]

They all brick against SG lol

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Trina isn't even half as tanky as Noah+Noise.

And Scarlet also p1 to be focused fire.

This is already copium that Vesti would be shooting equal to or faster than Cindy even with 2s charge.

[covert lintel]

Just sending a message to buy more level

[unique wagon]

Just use Noah bro

Shit is rookie fight scissor with rock not scissor

[unique wagon]

TVesti is true damage btw
And LaplaceTr doesnt even have as much damage modifiers

■ Activates when hitting a target with Full Charge. Affects the target.

Deals 132.45% of final ATK as additional damage.

[covert lintel]

But this #pvp-arena message is deficit match
1700000 vs over 2000000 doro team

[swift mango]

very big deal.

And yeah, Vesti has 60% charge dmg up, that's not buffing her additional dmg whatsoever. Still better than nothing I guess.

[unique wagon]

LaplaceTr deals 366.86% per shot. TVesti hits True 1066% per 4 shots, discounting basic attack damage (which is 22% * 2.6 minimum * 3 + 44%) ≈ 1281%.

[small raptor]

is there a team that counters his?

[swift mango]

So basically the same.

[unique wagon]

Yeah TVesti is just slightly better LaplaceTr towards Wind.

[covert lintel]

Noah aside, now siren won't work on p1/p2 anymore

[unique wagon]

No, well, if u use TEmma and TEunhwa and they somehow survive, then TVesti gets instant 62% True DMG + 100% CHG DMG + 3.9% DMG TAKEN + some Explosion DMG, which is kinda troll cus there is no burst gen but if enemy dies who cares

[swift mango]

You don't use 3 of them in the same team. It's trash team. If you wanted to just add LapT and or RH buff.

[unique wagon]

In which case, this becomes at least 1.2 * (1066% * 1.62 + 36.96% + however much Explosion damage contributes) * 3.9%.

[swift mango]

Like I said, it's copium that she would shot same speed at Cindy at 100% CS event thought she has 2s charge.

[unique wagon]

Cant. Well u can if its 2 RL even with delayed TVesti.

[swift mango]

it's not, unless you add Jackal and HelmT into that same team and get some feeds.

But sure, just copium.

[unique wagon]

At least 2,200% against any unit. Should be around 2,230-2,250% actual excluding OL buffs.

[unique wagon]

Its not copium

No one's gonna survive a True 2,200% with elemental advantage

Say goodbye to unprotected SBS, Blanc, Siren, and Noah
If they're in P1 P2 P3

[swift mango]

I'm sure Vesti would surprise everyone and shot 4 times in 2rl to show them how superior she is.

Best burst gen unit ever..

[unique wagon]

Actually Siren would trigger B1 first unless Siren is 3 RL

[swift mango]

True dmg gonna end Moran whole carrier.

[unique wagon]

4th shot lands probably around 190-210F.

Or who knows maybe faster than that

[swift mango]

190F is 6.33 sec and 5.5rl

[unique wagon]

Not Iron, no bonus elm dmg

[unique wagon]

At 60 fps

[swift mango]

That's not how arena work.

[unique wagon]

Thats how nikke.work does it so Im using it as guideline

Well whatever if it makes u happy then idk ig 95 to 105F

[swift mango]

well I will just wait and see.

Great if it work, we would have some variation in Arene even if I skip her.

[tropic summit]

no need to skip just

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[swift mango]

Yeah, nah I will skip everything that's not makima or Campaign hard carrier

[next skiff]

hey for rookie arena i have 1 of 2 comps but idk whats better

ein better in tierlist but lower power, and with either comp im already behind on power vs those around me

[tropic summit]

neither, your only B1 is in p1 and can be easily killed

also Ein is non lethal with those buffers

[next skiff]

i didnt know order mattered

its mainly to exist until i can invest in better pvp units

what order would be better

[fallow nebula]

What biscuit skills should i level

Thinking 4 10 1?

[unique wagon]

Vesti is tho

[tropic summit]

not as much for the order but the team effectiveness

that team is dead to most things

[shell hazel]

@dim escarp this you sir?

[dim escarp]

ya why?

[shell hazel]

one of your guildies in my rookie

[dim escarp]

ohhhh Ysteri

[shell hazel]

yeah looks new think shuffled in

[dim escarp]

Rip Ysteri then

[tropic summit]

tell em to come on discord i can help

[shell hazel]

he's too low power to win I think I'm locked in a war with Void

it's like Highlander, there can be only one

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[tropic summit]

[dim escarp]

I think Void is a mini whale so good luck

[shell hazel]

they are haha

I am playing a game of change my defence every day

[dim escarp]

Ysteri asked me few times how to beat his team but it start to be too much gap I guess

[dim escarp]

oooof

real focus

[shell hazel]

it's cp gap nonsense

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

I have no issue beating this team every time

[dim escarp]

dude really don't give a f about pvp

[shell hazel]

he cares enough to try and hit me 5 times lol

[dim escarp]

ego I guess

[shell hazel]

I just reciprocate if they do that, usually I just hit once per day 😛

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

if I force him to spend more to accelerate levels for his ego I consider it a win lol

[dim escarp]

gl lmao

[shell hazel]

I'm going to see how many defences I can set to challenge him

I think I can come up with about 10 or so

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

10? that's rookie numbers

previous season

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-high-def-gif-25319895

man the salt this guy must be feeling 😄

[tropic summit]

no he broke through them all, it's the attempts spent

brute force unpunished at some point will eventually make you run out of defenses

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean people can learn what works etc

[tropic summit]

train him at your own risk

[shell hazel]

depends if they cycle into my SPA or not, will see in a few days

[tropic summit]

once you're no longer comfy to hold ch4, you'll want to avoid spreading info about your teams

[shell hazel]

would probably need at least 2-3 whales to enter my SPA for that to be the case

[swift mango]

She is what I skip yeah.

[tropic summit]

but what if she's then meta with 26%CS

[swift mango]

Glad I couldn't gey that high.

[raven plover]

gey

[swift mango]

@covert lintel I am done with my hits.

My SBS dealt 500m less than when I mock. Sorry.

At least my dmg isn't the bottomest tier in the union.

[swift mango]

[raven plover]

[hybrid fox]

I keep getting combo within 3 hours

its like everytime I let my guard down they attack
uh do I win the above

[hollow lagoon]

looka likw 2 rl so u should cus ur tankier?

unless ur helm dies to rosa

[tulip quest]

Win Win Lose for me

[swift mango]

I got a guy fail to hit me 12 times SpA in the same day. That's what number is.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[swift mango]

451 now and suddenly dude gave up.

At least he learned how to deals with all the tricky def team that an investment bricked account needed to deal with.

Good education for his 2000+ gem

[tropic summit]

the average pvp non casual should learn to deal with all teams within 1 year of playing this game

unless really bad luck at finding meta units

although staying away from the internet will likely cause them to take longer

[swift mango]

Try to be counselor for LD then. You would open to a new world.

[tropic summit]

@unique mountain why you not learnin'

[swift mango]

I mean, his bracket has many creative people.

[tropic summit]

oh?

[swift mango]

They know how to take full advantage of their opponent line up that lack Charge speed, CP and skill level.

1 flex to heaven CP + 2 team that counter scarlet are enough to cause trouble for investment bricked opponent.

[hybrid fox]

I feel like WLW

I need to take care of 2nd team
even with centi it still lose, sad
they cut me faster

[wise horizon]

need help. whats the best counter to the following in Rookie PvP:
Siren / HelmT / SBS / Noah / Jackal
Scarlet / Trina / Soda / HelmT / Jackal

[tropic summit]

@quick lake do you've that formula for expected SParena rank?

i want to know if i can afford giving away more defs and still ensures ch4

[keen vapor]

There's a formula

[tropic summit]

aye

[quick lake]

gimme a sec

[tropic summit]

was something like this one

[quick lake]

When did this SP arena start

[keen vapor]

Is just "did you appeared enough time up?"

[quick lake]

Yeah this is the formula

[tropic summit]

should be either 29 or 30 july

[quick lake]

what’s ur current points now

[shell hazel]

KanaeSatoruVol10BQID
gems

[quick lake]

my excel broke

i think started 31st

[tropic summit]

aye claimed them already, but thank you sir

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

Total hour elapsed is 233.76, so can plug into the formula

[tropic summit]

what does your xls give you with these 2?

total points:136497
total hours elapsed since SPA started: 233.76

my chatgpt seems to be doing some weird rounding

[quick lake]

idk. chatgpt math bad

[tropic summit]

so 4.2 is 4 or potentially 5?

[quick lake]

should be 4

[tropic summit]

based on my predictions if ranks don't change i'll be 4th with 600 points ahead

guess i'll just poke some whels for extra margin just to be safe

[quick lake]

Im also not too sure how accurate the formula is tbh. Might not be 100% accurate if opponents swaps a lot

But should rank 4 roughly

[tropic summit]

theoretically if opponent was to sit ch1 they'd gain more so it's probably estimating for that

[quick lake]

You can do it

[quartz rover]

in case the power gap wasnt enough

stupid biscuits

[tropic summit]

common CP pad strat

p1 defender + biscuit and high CP stacking

they missing an SG for backpressure and it would've been even worse

[quartz rover]

who would be the best burst 3 for this situation?

I am faster if that helps

rh and ein are linked

(ein has 2 atk rolls and rapi has 0)

I have enough power with this team also

[tropic summit]

if anything RH shoots p5 and they don't have any immediate taunt

you could try your luck with that

[quartz rover]

should I just rh p1?

something like this

maybe jackal p1 rh p2?

to the races we go

biscuit was murdered so fast LOL

I didnt even b1 and she was dead

I wish I could steam record nikke

[tropic summit]

RH hits for ele weak on biscuit

you also have ein contributing damage as she's also an SR unit

[covert lintel]

I think c1 in my bracket read this channel
He changed back doro to emi

[covert lintel]

Why are you report it to me
I'm not leader

[keen vapor]

Imagine having RH 90% ele

[quartz rover]

where would someone place a biscuit if they want to use her? p4?

[viscid urchin]

So uhhh I think it is time to upgrade my PvP teams. The ATK one could definitely use a tune-up but naturally I need guidance. This is what I have at present, 2.66 million CP.

[covert lintel]

Post your box
@tropic summit @keen vapor @quick lake will help you later

[viscid urchin]

It is probably easier to post what I don’t have, would that be OK? It’s a much shorter list

[quartz rover]

launching nikke on phone so you can see the play by play

[viscid urchin]

So uhhh yeah, this is strictly what I do not have so if it is not on there, assume that I have it

[quartz rover]

Time to farm the bozo back

[signal hull]

No Sora. Absolutely 🧱

[viscid urchin]

Sora is wanted in PvP?

[signal hull]

Nah, I'm just joking.

[viscid urchin]

Geez man you gonna give this idiot a heart attack

[quartz rover]

[umbral crown]

[primal charm]

can moran tank sg comp chat

[quartz rover]

Why are you calling us chat. Are you a streamer?

[placid bloom]

if Moran getting shot she can tank, if your p5 getting shot no

[quartz rover]

So what if you put moran in p5

[tropic summit]

attacking same target 5 times is kind of bad manners tho

[quartz rover]

They did it two me two times

[tropic summit]

and you lowered yourself to their same level

nothing particularly respectable imo

but you do what you do...

[quartz rover]

They will attack me 5 times back and win

Now I can actually win when attacking them back

[tropic summit]

T1 bad, too slow
T2 unbuffed scarlet. non lethal, on slower side
T3 high feed, too slow

[quartz rover]

Two days in a row they attacked me 5 times and I wasnt top of the beginner leaderboard

So this is just comeuppance

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest with you, that's actually good for you, you just need to attack highest rank and you earn more points than bickering with them

[viscid urchin]

Alright am listening. Who do I upgrade?

[tropic summit]

especially using your attempts near reset

[quartz rover]

I cant beat rank 1

[tropic summit]

post your box

[quartz rover]

Dude is as strong as my spa #1

Just not as good nikke for defense

[viscid urchin]

It’s easier if I just post what I am missing. If it is not there assume that I have it, just not necessarily built. Is that ok?

[tropic summit]

i can't tell invest like this though

meta teams on bad CP are worthless

[quartz rover]

Speaking of which if im c2 for like 9 hours, should I save my last attempt for whoever knocks me down or try to take 1

[tropic summit]

else you may aswell refer to these:

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

the first if you want to retain more points, the second if you want a challange

[viscid urchin]

Alright I’ll go and switch things in settings and show the box. Gimme a moment Ok?

[quartz rover]

I can try to beat #1 but he has too much padding

I need like 190k power to even be in range for t1, my main campaign team is 205k

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit Would this be better? I cannot send more than this many attachments

[granite anchor]

should i work on Poli or Bay for treasure?

[covert lintel]

Poli and bay are only for CA
If you only need for spA, don't bother it

[quartz rover]

do you think it's possible for me to kill scarlet before she bursts? only b3 on t3 and she's p1

[granite anchor]

im in CA, if its worth it i'd build one.
what teams do they go on?

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

[glad meteor]

Trina there so need high invest to kill scar. And sr on offense targets p5

[tropic summit]

i've good news and bad news... the bad news is that you've trina, rumani and noah in the bench, you need to build them and use them, will drastically increase ur odds of winning

the good news is that you can form maybe 2 somewhat working teams

[quartz rover]

so basically siren is a must for t3 (if she doesnt dodge it)

[viscid urchin]

Alright, I’m all ears. I knew about Trina, Rumani and Noah was pulled just yesterday and I was more than willing to build them up. And this is for the Attacking team? What comps am I looking at?

[quartz rover]

how do you deal with a noah? they have no biscuit

[signal hull]

Siren/OG Soda.

[quartz rover]

but my siren is for t3 scarlet

[placid bloom]

Blanc

you outlast them

[glad meteor]

Siren could also trigger burst gen from skiils from ammo count used in previous rounds. And that t3 is on deficit

[quartz rover]

i'm making an attack team for c1

[crystal surge]

can i win

[tropic summit]

SP arena defense

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noise centi cind helmt siren
crown biscuit ein rh laplace

SP arena attack (generic purpose, you will have to tailor the teams to what you facing for better results)

depends on what you attacking, for the most part you can run a scarlet nuke and a indom

noise trina cindy helmt rh
sbs helmt blanc centi jackal

wishlist/build rumani, trina, noah

budget:
trina 4/7/7 4OL, SR5
noah 4/4/4 4OL, SR5
rumani 4/4/4 4OL, SR5

get your teams reviewed then

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit cind helmt jackal, you don't scarlet vs scarlet, especially not against a rosanna

[signal hull]

I'd say his Rosanna might destroy your B3's, but hard to say without testing.

[covert lintel]

Poli is in sg team
Bay maybe in moran or scar team

[viscid urchin]

An “indom”? I beg your pardon, I don’t know what this means. I am very casual with Arena…until I start getting hunted and get mad

[covert lintel]

Idk much about bay because my bay still sr10

[tropic summit]

no problem, showcase of your indom SBS

blanc burst gives indomitable to unit with lowest hp in the team on cast

[crystal surge]

vigor cube on them?

[viscid urchin]

Ohhh OK.

[tropic summit]

in team above units in p1 and p3 are linked with jackal

since SBS has lower hp than jackal and helmt and is sharing dmg, she will remain lowest HP in the team

[granite anchor]

is poli good good?
because my sg team doesn't even have xanne rn so its kind of ass. could be a big upgrade

[tropic summit]

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
cindy w/e
helmt w/e
jackal quantum

helmt must be s1 lvl 10 and phase 2

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit Oh and you also gave me DEF teams too. Should I even bother showing you what I have lined up there?

[covert lintel]

Yes, she is a replacement for xanne

[tropic summit]

no it's fine, try to follow the teams i gave you instead of those you shared

should be an upgrade if anything

[crystal surge]

Okay then, is it okay for tempering at level 5?

[tropic summit]

[crystal surge]

damn i lost
my team died even before bursting

[tropic summit]

you're on deficit then

[covert lintel]

Is not ok
Go for lv7, redeem union chip into tempering battery

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy CP for 0.846, if you're below you're hit with stat penality (40% less overall stats)

[crystal surge]

1392098 vs 113560
cp

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit understood. Thank you very kindly. It probably won’t be for a while since the SPA season is almost over but I will be preparing for it over the coming days. Is it OK if I showcase it later on? And for ATK team does it really matter what I throw together for a 3rd team?

[tropic summit]

ye 19% deficit, you're hit with stat penality unfortunately

[crystal surge]

so i avoid him?

[tropic summit]

until you've better CP probably for the best

[crystal surge]

Ok then

[tropic summit]

they can sneeze and ur team falls

[crystal surge]

can i beat this guy atleast?

[tropic summit]

22% deficit

same thing as previous opponent

[crystal surge]

ah damn
can't beat the top 1 and 2 damn 😔

[tropic summit]

[viscid urchin]

Also @tropic summit does uhhh the cube matter much? I just slapped in whatever I could at the time

[granite anchor]

give your blanc a doll

[tropic summit]

since attack is dependant on 2 wins, you can commit to those with ur best teams, 3rd team can be w/e

[crystal surge]

R doll?

[hollow lagoon]

@fathom rock man i think this one's gone

[granite anchor]

sure, its a good bit of cp

[tropic summit]

they do on certain units and lineups

generally speaking

quantum on batteries (trina, rumani, jackal, centi... etc)
resil on s.anis
temperance on most tanks (moran, noah)
vigor on units that can heal better (biscuit, blanc, noise, rapunzel etc)
adjutant to mess with CS%
bastion/resil for stats

[crystal surge]

okay then
R +0 fine?

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit ✍️ Alright. Thank you. And sorry for asking dumb AF probably basic questions. Like I said, I am very casual for Arena but lately I have been getting hunted like a boar and I want to bite back. I may be stuck in D3 but I accepted it since most people above me sport 3+ million CP. That said I still want to swing back

[hollow lagoon]

cant be worse than that guy that has old af account and is sync 272 or something, railtracher is chad he will set you on the correct path

[fathom rock]

Alt run

[umbral crown]

Poli with SG team, bay could be in stall or any nice idea you can cook

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

u do more damage than me , but i run dkw grave team with laplace cuz my rrh and siren is on fire team

[viscid urchin]

Oh I believe it. Like I said, I am an idiot for arena and very obviously I do not understand it in depth. But it’s something that I still participate in because I want to prove that I can somehow make it too, even with my middling luck

[quartz rover]

How's this cook? Ein and siren are linked

My team is slower but idk what to do vs this lmao

[viscid urchin]

Oh and just as a heads up, I DO have all 3 (Rumani LB1, Trina is full MLB, Noah freshly acquired but can make her MlB from silver mileage when she rolls out).

[quartz rover]

yea I dont have enough power on the useful nikke for pvp

[fathom rock]

Dont take this fight youll lose so fast

[quartz rover]

Skill diff I suppose

I think the deficit should be removed, just use the stats in pvp

but how would that help SU, people whale to be #1 in pvp

[gritty ridge]

Guys what cube do i upgrade, quantum or temper

[gritty ridge]

Bad match, dont fight

Thats a team youd want noah cindy for

[quartz rover]

Noahless

[gritty ridge]

Can also use bay ig

Slow tho

[tropic summit]

MLB make them overall a tad better, more tanky, more stats

but you don't need to mileage imo

[tropic summit]

i think with your box you can easily have a spot in challenger, as long as you've been active daily and investing in the right units

[gritty ridge]

Rail this was the teams you built right? Accidentally cleared the team and had to rebuild from memory

I think i messed up the top one

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I knew i messed it up, thank you

I just remembered ein and pascal

[tropic summit]

the fact you put bay in a team where you're B2ing with biscuit is concerning

regardless of whether you didn't remember it or not

so be careful

[gritty ridge]

I wasn't building i was using what I thought you did, brain was off

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-seishun-buta-yarou-wa-bunny-girl-senpai-no-yume-wo-minai-rascal-does-not-dream-head-pat-gif-11620612559245250700

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mai-sakurajima-rascal-does-not-dream-of-bunny-girl-senpai-sakuta-pinch-cheek-anime-gif-15988234

[gritty ridge]

Rail how do I beat mc

[lunar pawn]

btw anyone tested emma for pvp yet?

[quartz rover]

What happens if you put Emma in p4 and she dies, will they go to p5 or p3 or back to p1

[tropic summit]

#questions

[quartz rover]

[gritty ridge]

Isnt rail super MA?

Know everything

[tropic summit]

bro i'm just pleb

i share only what i know

[gritty ridge]

Smh

[quartz rover]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-run-gif-7730057105979674425

[fickle jetty]

i can easily beat the 2nd but always lose to 1st

[gritty ridge]

Have you considered siren+2 snipers?

[fickle jetty]

i tried scarlet trina helm siren jackal before
not fast enough

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, idk if you can kill biscuit before burst

I dont think you can

[fickle jetty]

i cant

[gritty ridge]

And you said this didnt work?

[fickle jetty]

ya

[gritty ridge]

They must have some cs

Maybe rosanna could work

[fickle jetty]

[gritty ridge]

No anis is supporter nvrmind

[glad meteor]

If you willing to test. Can you try this

[fickle jetty]

ohh i dont have rumani

[glad meteor]

[fickle jetty]

[glad meteor]

Jackal maybe

[fickle jetty]

yo wtf

[glad meteor]

[fickle jetty]

thank you so much

[viscid urchin]

You think most highly of me. But…it doesn’t hurt to try aiming higher

[glad meteor]

Hope it’s consistent though

[gritty ridge]

Im confused how this works against 2rl

[fathom rock]

Naga indom

[gritty ridge]

Can you teach

[fathom rock]

Tank eithoit brusting hope

[tropic summit]

it's ABC slow cindy

[glad meteor]

noah slow, sanis is continual damage and she reloads at 2.5RL

[fickle jetty]

3/3 currently

[gritty ridge]

Idk how slow Cindy works, I wanna learn

[glad meteor]

If jackal is higher hp than cindy. Cindy will get biscuit immune

[tropic summit]

just a combo of biscuit and defenders + cindy, ideally rumani for the RL needed to 4RL or 5RL as needed

blanc debuff is an added bonus for nuking

[gritty ridge]

How would you manage that against a unit who self buffs her own max hp

[fickle jetty]

my cindy hp is higher than jackal

[glad meteor]

oh

Dk why jackal got immune then

[gritty ridge]

I honestly forgot blanc has a debuff

[fickle jetty]

[glad meteor]

I thought she buffs decoy hp

[gritty ridge]

Other way around, each decoy is 2% more hp

Up to 24%

Roughly

[glad meteor]

oh. Yeah. S2

[gritty ridge]

You might be able to get around it with sr15 jackal and a decently leveld vigor cube

Indom cindy is questionable tho

[swift mango]

And not level bricked

[viscid urchin]

Just a question @tropic summit in the DEF lineup you listed Red Hood twice. Did you perhaps mean one of them should be Rapi Red Hood instead? While I’d love two Red Hoods, I am sadly only permitted one

[swift mango]

Nah he just had bad copy pasta moment. Replace one of the RH with Liter, unless Rapi CP much higher than her.

[viscid urchin]

Yes it is. Rapi RH CP is 208K and Liter is 193K

[swift mango]

If you use RRH, use her in team 3 as it's flex CP.

Team Scarlet need RH or Liter.

[viscid urchin]

Got it. Team 3 it is

[dim escarp]

Now my guidmate just asked me new guidelines on pvp

I guess you somehow affect this decision

[shell hazel]

if he's capable to beat my teams just ask him not to do so more than once per day, I'd hit back the same number. but I need to deal with Void first anyway

if he leaves me alone for now I'd do the same tbh, I don't have enough free tries to spam on everyone 😄

I'd sign a truce until the end of this current ongoing season if they want

20 rocks burnt on scarlet trying to add a decent atk line anywhere lol. all I succeeded in was giving myself a headache of trying to replace it onto line 1 at 3 rocks a go

the other 3 pieces probably all need full rolls again in the end to fix them, this is going to hurt to get her where I want

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

as blood answered already, just typo, scarlet needs a B1 buffer and in case you lack RH liter is indeed more than enough

example below of liter variation over RH, as you can see is for the most part unchanged

[tropic summit]

obviously

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

oh this is a new ranking thing for your server it looks like soon?

[umbral belfry]

it's the solo museum no limit thingy

I gotta try it out myself but also I suck at SR

[shell hazel]

well you can progress a bit through sheer levels

no limit mode is tied to your sync

[umbral belfry]

all i'm hearing is that bc i'm below 400, i'll be cooked

[shell hazel]

sure can't get the points yet

2 whole rocks for fbw

Rail has em

Rail give my rocks back onegai

[umbral belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1246967502919958528/GIF_20240602_225244_708.gif

[tropic summit]

lies hime, if you can mald at campaign you can mald at SR

[umbral crown]

cookig indeed

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

probably im not gonna appear there for a while

[tropic summit]

you've cleared pvp, time to clear pve

[wise horizon]

need help. whats the best counter to the following in Rookie PvP:
Siren / HelmT / SBS / Noah / Jackal
Scarlet / Trina / Soda / HelmT / Jackal

[umbral belfry]

7 rocks, ty for your sacrifice

[umbral crown]

makes sense

i just shine a bit in electric weak raids

[tropic summit]

wonder why

[umbral crown]

i sometimes do wonder

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

1) Siren / HelmT / SBS / Noah / Jackal
2)Scarlet / Trina / Soda / HelmT / Jackal

1a) noise rumani helmt bay laplaceT
1b) noise rumani helmt laplaceT noah (requires noise taunt priority)
2) noise rumani noah bay helmT (depending on how faster enemy CS% is, this team may still have a RNG factor in losing, although it has very low odds)

[glad meteor]

P3-5. soda is interesting, technically noah and bay can get stunned

[umbral belfry]

cheater

[tropic summit]

yeah hence why that team is so tedious

[glad meteor]

git gud

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

git scarlet chump

[glad meteor]

, i don’t need scarlet anymore

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

took her off wishlist, no more hope

[wise horizon]

thanks. Does Bay need to be treasured?

[tropic summit]

nope

[glad meteor]

Oh yeah. Ade

[tropic summit]

right i keep forgetting that exists

although she needs to survive against scarlet s2

[glad meteor]

she doesn’t need to

[tropic summit]

buff stays if she's ded?

[glad meteor]

i think so

[tropic summit]

oh noice

[twilit bay]

Should I put Scarlet p1 or p2 in this team
Scarlet/ Laplace/ Winter Maiden/ Trina/ Jackal
vs
Jackal/ Scarlet/ Laplace/ Trina/ Winter Maiden

I feel like T1 would be very susceptible to Siren

[tropic summit]

scarlet on less than 32 ammo is safe against siren stun

if above that ammo threshold, run jackal in p1

[twilit bay]

My one has 4x Max ammo

[tropic summit]

then the latter is safer for you

[twilit bay]

Didn't know that cover stops the stun. Thank you

[gritty ridge]

I did it

Almost 4 weeks

Im finally free

[tropic summit]

you took a good dumpy?

[gritty ridge]

I beat mc

[tropic summit]

that's a pretty good dumpy alright

you must feel so much more light now

[gritty ridge]

Im on the lowest clear leaderboard and i didnt need to touch a single slipper

[hollow lagoon]

@fathom rock wanna see the raid numbers sheet so u can shit on my union

every union raid i make this shit to rile up my union leader to get him frustrated

[gritty ridge]

I can start giving rocks to pvp units

Rumani, biscuit, blanc, their time has come

[hollow lagoon]

man i rolled a charge damage on my siren

on her empty line, and now i'm out of rocks

[eager mountain]

those 2 conflicts, define lowest clear by condition

[gritty ridge]

If you go to lowest clears of all time for NA mc, im on the board

[eager mountain]

u cant do so without touching slippers

[umbral belfry]

bigboi pve era

[gritty ridge]

I just did

[eager mountain]

clip

[gritty ridge]

I cannot, but I can show you my team cp

Also slippers don't appear until around 1:30 battle time

[eager mountain]

def slippers dont, but if u have 1:30 left it means ur cp is way more then enough

[gritty ridge]

I have 1:27 total time, and im 317k

[eager mountain]

team?

[gritty ridge]

Hypercarry cindy

Bricked cindy btw

So it can be done with lower cp

[glad meteor]

Did you break slippers or ignore

[eager mountain]

lowest na all time huh

[gritty ridge]

I didnt even see the slippers

[gritty ridge]

Im not the lowest

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

[glad meteor]

Oh 1:27 clear

[gritty ridge]

If slippers showed up I had to reset cuz I cant break 1st slipper without redhood

[hollow lagoon]

i waited untill the first stage of the chapter was blue when i was doing normal mode story, had a full team ready to murder mirrior container, it got vaporiced in 2 burst sequence, needless to say i was dissapoint

i had to get my boss fight fix by doing a mock mirrior container in interception

[eager mountain]

wild enough, maybe it means na lacks new malders that malds 3:00 normal mc and almost all of them are veteran cp clears

[gritty ridge]

Me, sopa, and lawolf are the newest additions to the board iirc

[hollow lagoon]

global def has a lot of malders

[gritty ridge]

Lowest clear is 288k iirc

[hollow lagoon]

i know a guy from na, bro does 20% deficit and tells me about how hard it is

[gritty ridge]

[glad meteor]

317k ish. Pretty good actually

Mine was 338k. Pre cindy

[hollow lagoon]

mean while 30% deficit is like the standard in global?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i was consistently being told I couldnt clear before slippers

I am very proud of myself

[hollow lagoon]

when i did a 25% deficit mother whale and showed @shell hazel, bro came and called me a filthy noob

i love spreading misinformation

[eager mountain]

cp diff between 1:30 clear vs 3:00 clear isnt that high thx to the fact u still cant do that much dmg during later half even with breaking all slippers
just shocked me that 1:30 clear appears at the top

[gritty ridge]

When i couldnt break 2nd slipper regardless of what I did i had to start disrespecting the boss

[hollow lagoon]

tbh at your sync, the issue of lacking specific unit is stilla thing, so not everyone have a worked up Ein to hardcounter Mirrior container

[gritty ridge]

My cindy has no attack lines so if you had 4 ele 4 atk cindy you could probably drop 10k off my clear

[hollow lagoon]

first slipper is hardest, u have to time your burst accordingly so u can get all the benefit to blreak the slipper

cindy is bad for slipper breaking actually

she's raw dps

but her parts damage is non existant

[gritty ridge]

Rn cindy can only chunk off half the healthbar of 2nd slipper

[eager mountain]

those who has no issues breaking 1st 2 slippers but still almost hitting the timer likely has maxxed ein but not much of a good cindy

[tropic summit]

damn the payout though

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

definitely worth clearing these things asap

[gritty ridge]

Im stuck on ultra atm

[dim escarp]

@shell hazel time to cook ig

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel did you leave the meme team on?

[dim escarp]

he did put a meme team?

[tropic summit]

he was running a funzies rookie team not sure if he left it on

[dim escarp]

that's one of my guildmate so idk the team

oh okok

[tropic summit]

well if anything this will serve to not let hippo get rusty

[dim escarp]

nah I trust him

it's prob just a meme team

[tropic summit]

oh he's here

[shell hazel]

problem is I can just auto fight in return he needs to change his teams to win 😛

[dim escarp]

my goat

[tropic summit]

he's gapped rip

[dim escarp]

ysteri is my boy so you better be prepared

[hollow lagoon]

aw man i arrived

[shell hazel]

I didn't even lose anyone fighting this in return 😛

[dim escarp]

ok insane lmao

[shell hazel]

I'll change my team again for tomorrow

[dim escarp]

what was your team btw ?

[shell hazel]

nothing amazing I am more testing Void out

[dim escarp]

also what about your HM progression?

[shell hazel]

I don't really expect my current team to win much tbh, but I just want to keep varying it

28-40 so on the boss

[dim escarp]

you have good invest so it might be solid

[shell hazel]

the boss is doable I need more power

[dim escarp]

pog gg!

is it ||crystal chamber ?||

[shell hazel]

yup

[dim escarp]

I see

[dim escarp]

then it's boss of 28-29 and 31

[shell hazel]

I get it to like 20% but I need more power somewhere

[dim escarp]

I just beat the CC of chap 31 atm

[dim escarp]

nice 🔥

[shell hazel]

I expect I can maybe push some into 29 or so when this is done

but it's the slow grind out now, levels and progression slowed down a lot

[dim escarp]

yeah I can imagine x)

[shell hazel]

tell your guildy they need to change their def if they want to win, I actually won't burn the rest of my tries until before reset otherwise I just feed Void

[dim escarp]

alright

[shell hazel]

Void may even steal the points back for me lol

[dim escarp]

you both should team up lmao

against void

[shell hazel]

he can't beat void with cp gap I think

maybe with a high cp biscuit team

void is 720K

[dim escarp]

He's about to up 361 soon

[shell hazel]

he needs 609K or so to even get out of cp deficit

[dim escarp]

maybe with blanc RH biscuit

[shell hazel]

something near to that to run biscuit locked defender

[dim escarp]

what's void team ?.

oh yeah story dumb

[shell hazel]

it's just cp nonsense

[dim escarp]

I remember

[shell hazel]

I have varied invested units due to CA so I can actually run quite a few diff comps lol

[dim escarp]

it's insane, I had enough to invest 4 nikke SR15 (with insane luck)

[shell hazel]

my luck wasn't that good but I think I got a couple more SR-15 out of it

[oblique gyro]

don't feel forced to change team and hit back you can let me alone

[shell hazel]

i'm changing my team for Void more than anything, just screwing with them

but they may chomp you instead of me if you got all the delicious points

[oblique gyro]

i can't do shit against void, he has too much CP unlucky

[eager mountain]

is he in ur spa

[shell hazel]

not yet

or currently, reshuffle in a few days

I could cp gap you at current as well but maybe not at 361

[eager mountain]

wait til yall figure out ur rookie teams cs

[oblique gyro]

he's in my bracket since my first day account, i think he will never leave it

[eager mountain]

and switch teams just to let each other know more units cs

[shell hazel]

well the alternative is you just run cp gap nonsense

and then no one figures out anything 😄

[dim escarp]

my goat

[tropic summit]

little does he know he has awakened the raid boss of that bracket

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[dim escarp]

ngl I would fear Ysteri

[shell hazel]

what is your SPA at the top like?

[dim escarp]

dude is scary about investment focus

that's why he's in my guild

[shell hazel]

interested to see in case we get some sort of merger, though my brackets pretty active/changing a lot

[dim escarp]

BTW TAV, u are in global right what about Atlas

[shell hazel]

oh I'd love to but happy in my current union 🙂

if I was looking for a new one though I'd be up for

[dim escarp]

np haha

[oblique gyro]

bro you already recruited your top 1 bracket chinese player

[dim escarp]

never enough

[shell hazel]

we're fairly good on the progression front just not super comp

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

bit more than me but I guess expected given they have +20 sync on me

cp nonsense teams or proper teams?

[eager mountain]

this emote

[dim escarp]

[oblique gyro]

i have no token to check rn (i never look at him) i can tell you that tomorrow

[shell hazel]

appreciated thanks

we cleared day 1 normal + all the first tier of hard mode bosses are down, not super comp but good enough for me Jaw

[oblique gyro]

i'll do a pvp coaching tomorrow with jaw, i'll use that opportunity to share void comps

[dim escarp]

Ngl if they already had 2M with their sync it's obviously some CP team

[shell hazel]

if you ever want to test against anything in particular I can set it up

[eager mountain]

coaching session

[dim escarp]

lvl 424 with good invest on pvp team I ve 2.3M

[shell hazel]

nah mine is proper teams and not far below it

[dim escarp]

but you are like

full pvp invest

[dim escarp]

When void is void

[shell hazel]

they may be as well guess we'll see

[eager mountain]

yall have low lv wingman to test on

[dim escarp]

yeah for your sync it seem fair ngl

[shell hazel]

• 20 sync prob gets me to 2M

[dim escarp]

if you end up in Ysteri bracket that's crazy

[shell hazel]

I've seen various people come and go in rookie tbh

[dim escarp]

same

[shell hazel]

my spa has been pretty consistent mainly just odd new people entering it

I don't think we'd get a full merge

[dim escarp]

I have my old hater in rookie atm

one moment lm find

[shell hazel]

I never see Void in the CA matches so I am not sure how invested they may be

[eager mountain]

@dim escarp @oblique gyro @shell hazel test if those numbers are true if yall can for scar vs rl

[dim escarp]

doombox was my old name

guess he did not like the fact I beat him everytime

[shell hazel]

you may need to translate that into english 😄

[dim escarp]

now he changed focus

[eager mountain]

left is scar ammo, right is cs% range that should result in rocket whiff on scar

testing if the number is true or not, only possible if yalls wingman is below lv7

[shell hazel]

it is, my scar has no ammo OL atm

it's level 4

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

I found em

[dim escarp]

ngl I don't understand any

[gritty ridge]

Interesting union

[dim escarp]

how is it ?

[eager mountain]

lv4 wingman 0 ol should be 24 ammo, this means attacker (ysteri)'s second rl projectile should whiff if rl's cs% is within 0-4 range rounded, or 0-7 for p1 and p2 rl

[shell hazel]

bad investment but guess they just whale and pve main

[dim escarp]

crazy evolution

[dim escarp]

Oh I see

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel me ein hit glass slipper for 1 damage under fullburst

[dim escarp]

yeah dude have barely invest

he just don't care about rookie

[shell hazel]

but you can still win SPA with 💳

also some core bits invested some I guess

want me to send my scar with no ammo and level 4 wingman at their team? I guess we'd need to know how much cs they have

[shell hazel]

frankly I don't either, running cp/campaign team is probably the best thing if you want to give nothing away

though I hit him once and he randomly hits me 5 times 😄

[eager mountain]

@ me if you guys tested to see whether the number is right or wrong
well all hippo needs is to set up a scar def team, and attacker run a tight 2rl team (which means whiffing any rocket will ruin the gen), and have each rl having diff cs is possible, with p1 and p2 wanting more cuz it should cover more cs range for p1 and p2 due to projectile travel distance diff

[dim escarp]

ngl yeah, like let me check on mine

[shell hazel]

it might be easier the other way around if their scar has ammo

[eager mountain]

if their scar doesnt have ammo then u make them run wingman and test it urself ye

[shell hazel]

theirs may do, mine doesn't, so I can control that side I guess, they have scar on the team atm

[dim escarp]

That's my actual rookie team

But I could just go cp I guess lmao

[shell hazel]

yeah you basically are anyway

[hollow lagoon]

you are cp route atm tho

[dim escarp]

I did change just to see

I m at 800k with pvp team

[shell hazel]

imagine fighting stall comp with deficit as well

[eager mountain]

or if they have no ammo and no cube and u cant make them change cubes, technically u can test the 20 ammo range which is 18-24cs (18-27 p1p2) or 15~
well its hard to test high cs so u might wanna run helm, helm cuts 8 frames down so it becomes a low cs range for helm, but doubt ur helm is low cs

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

my helm needs a bit more CS but rocks

[eager mountain]

whats her cs

[shell hazel]

she's on OK value CS

it's 14% + 2% with adjutant for 16%

[eager mountain]

oh ye not helm but emi, helm isnt rl

[shell hazel]

trying to roll last bit of gear it's been escaping me, all my rolls lately have been bad

[eager mountain]

but 16 is too high for 20 ammo scar

[shell hazel]

we won't have emi here

[hollow lagoon]

i have 17% cs helm is that bad

[eager mountain]

ye, can only test 18 or 15 cs rl for 20 ammo scar

[shell hazel]

baby version of yours

[eager mountain]

its more then enough usually

helms high cs breakline is 25 cs for casting b1 after helm 3rd shot before siren

[shell hazel]

25CS is crazy work though

[eager mountain]

ye, unrealistic

[shell hazel]

needs like 2 black 2 blue lines and adjutant lol

not gonna say impossible but costly

[eager mountain]

all blue would be close

[hollow lagoon]

i love helm but i dont love her that much

[dim escarp]

less sync version of mine yeah x)

I guess you'll end up the same

[hollow lagoon]

i do have 4 lines tho....

[dim escarp]

or higer

[hollow lagoon]

why the laplace

just damage?

[shell hazel]

it's a variant

there is the xmaiden version as well

and the mana one

[hollow lagoon]

didn't know laplace heals

learn something new every day

[shell hazel]

lapT does more damage than Mana most likel

she doesn't it's just a more damage option

[hollow lagoon]

oh that

my mana does do less damage than laplace

[shell hazel]

it mostly depends what you got invested/want to run, my Mana would be miles off being ready

[hollow lagoon]

but my mana is you know... my mana 9/10/9 lol

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain wingman hero

[shell hazel]

eventually I'd want to invest in all the random units that I may want to use but it's costly in resources, if I can run a stall without mana anyway and it's just an alt lol

and I do heavily invest in the pvp as you know but I kind of need to do some of my raid stuff sometime also 😄

[eager mountain]

the hero would be the testing subject

[dim escarp]

Btw I didn't post here but, top 100 again of global 🔥 +5 place

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i'm copium enough to have mana as one of my stronger wind outputs,

[shell hazel]

half yours 😄

we don't crack the whip on people not pulling their weight though

fairly chill anyway

[dim escarp]

Godlike

[shell hazel]

you can see the actual score in ranking bit zant

[dim escarp]

I beat mine if they don't do enough

[dim escarp]

zamn you even post your board

[hollow lagoon]

what's the difference

[shell hazel]

the value in bills, I guess your numbers sum it up?

[hollow lagoon]

yeah i been bugging the union leader doing reforms, before i started doing this shit my union did 1.8%

[shell hazel]

it's probably the right move tbh

just work

getting 31 other people to actually try and co-ordinate, we just yolo it

[dim escarp]

ngl we just know each other enough now so it's just a joke, ur is always fun and good moment (when the boss doesn't have infinit shield lvl2)

[eager mountain]

jp is stupidly competitive as always

[hollow lagoon]

man when i joined this guy was 20 day absent, union leader told me he keeps the thing around cuz he does good damage, now ironic

[dim escarp]

I make it lol

[hollow lagoon]

where u get dis

[dim escarp]

It was the raid with MW ect

[dim escarp]

Mine

[hollow lagoon]

bro its so nice

[dim escarp]

tyty haha

[hollow lagoon]

i was considering putting in sync progression but there's too many f2p in my union they would get mad

[shell hazel]

it's a nice sheet I like it

[dim escarp]

yeah in mine too, we are basically 3 whale over 29 f2p

[hollow lagoon]

i recentally started roasting

[shell hazel]

if you want to progress the rankings you basically need to min/max

everyone needs to use all 3 hits, and any outliers with low damage need to be considered as to why

[dim escarp]

We also have a campaign progression Google doc and Ysteri made the right formule of the progression per stage

with the right gain ect

[shell hazel]

but ugh using in game chat 😄

[hollow lagoon]

oof i haven't gone that far

[signal hull]

Actually you need to organize people to log in and do their attempts very very fast and you'll get high rank.

[dim escarp]

I did for my Chinese whale

[shell hazel]

rank is based on total damage dealt, it matters not to do them quickly

[dim escarp]

he miss killed a boss

[shell hazel]

only in the day before it ends

[hollow lagoon]

i'm stuck in this union cuz 2 of my friends are in it, so the only solution is to make it better

one of said friend is a officer and is friend with the union leader

[dim escarp]

Btw @shell hazel guess who did more, whale with 60 level ahead of me during ur, of me ?

[signal hull]

I think day one is how fast you clear. I seriously doubt that union I used to be in for a one reset that was 9 then and 3 now was doing mega damage. In fact I'm sure they didn't. But maybe I'm wrong, idk, it felt it was all about speed.

[shell hazel]

you prob but I suspect that it wasn't as bad the zanza one that zanta showed 😄

[dim escarp]

I did 17.1B sync 421, he did 14B sync 481

[shell hazel]

467 sync and I think I did more damage

[dim escarp]

godlike

[shell hazel]

to really discuss stuff you need to be on discord

like a union one

[dim escarp]

you both are in the same union?

[shell hazel]

if I wanted to crack a whip and make a union strong it's mandatory: co-ordinate for tries/strategy in discord / use all 3 tries / ask for help if you need investment tips etc

[hollow lagoon]

i did 13b sync 444 , but i did try to hit the harder bosses cuz machoism

[shell hazel]

nah it's a diff one, I just joined this as I was lower sync and I wanted a union that could day 1 clear normal

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

zanta is ahead of curve on sync due to whalin though haha

you don't get more doll mats or rocks so I think it's a weaker 444 sync than someone who is f2p with all the dolls at the same sync

[hollow lagoon]

i invited @shell hazel to join my union, but he called me weakling and my union wasn't guud nuff

[dim escarp]

we have like 1powefspike diff so it's fair dw

[shell hazel]

and then I ran away 😄

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

I think ours actually had a higher rank than yours on that run, but your changes seem to be helping a bit there 🙂

[dim escarp]

TAV the princess I see

[hollow lagoon]

i wahle sync, my nikke dont even have fully leveled gear

[shell hazel]

princess ninja 🥷

[dim escarp]

I whale sync too brother 🤝

[shell hazel]

I do not, not really

dolphin sync maybe

[dim escarp]

I play since one year and 2 month

[shell hazel]

it's why void is +20 sync on me despite I am further in HM than them

[dim escarp]

ngl void is a mini whale

[shell hazel]

I can tell just due the sync diff if nothing else

[hollow lagoon]

my account is almost 9 month old

[shell hazel]

no chance I progress more and am 20 levels behind, I do all the usual f2p stuff for cd

all event tries and things

[hollow lagoon]

anyways evidentally sync aint everything

[dim escarp]

whats your sync ? I started to whale around february

[hollow lagoon]

445

[dim escarp]

damn ok

[shell hazel]

my dolpin sync spend is that I wipe out a couple of extra times per day, and I get the daily resource pack for the 10 cd crates per day

I don't buy cd really outside of that

[dim escarp]

just weekly + monthly core ? not daily ?

[hollow lagoon]

bro my nikke ol lines are so bad i only started consistant indivilia stage 7 today

[hollow lagoon]

used to do daily, stopped now that i gapped competition by 100 levels

[dim escarp]

ngl TAV you'll surpass them all