pvp-arena

[placid bloom]

it's time to get 11% cs on your Noah team

[hollow lagoon]

wouldent matter, 3rl

[shell hazel]

won't work on that team it's not 2RL

2RL with enough CS can work

[hollow lagoon]

i'm going xmica next ca

[placid bloom]

3RL lose to Mermaid even if you have Noise taunt prio

unless you run Rumani

[hollow lagoon]

me heep hitting noah on siren is real something tho

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[hollow lagoon]

It’s not like I didn’t invest

just gotta slap purple gear on her

[acoustic light]

@umbral belfry gl time to bully

[shell hazel]

gl @umbral belfry

[nimble swan]

damn that guy..
Moran got instantly revived. I will need to invest in my Cindy.

[shell hazel]

my rolls lately with rocks have been awful, think I burnt my last month or so worth of rocks for basically nothing 😄

[nimble swan]

I thought I will win r1, and probably r2 but Helm killed siren... That team would need laplace instead of drake but you know I can't get the last copy

r5 was a mirror but they had rumani instead of xmaiden se they burst faster... but my SBS was stronger so I won

[shell hazel]

I think you won that because they were a little quicker

he with the slower indom in that one wins

[nimble swan]

yeah that too

[shell hazel]

it's risky ofc, because your indom gets too slow you lose to other stuff

but 4RL indom beats 3.5RL indom etc

[nimble swan]

well i didn't have the best matchups.. but it is what it is. Rng arena

[harsh lake]

How did rossana burst gen so fast? Is this a bug?

[hybrid fox]

someone die on their team

[shell hazel]

we're all victims on the great rng arena 🙁

[harsh lake]

Soda died way too fast 🧐

[hybrid fox]

scar s2 returns dmg to attacker, MG and SG suffers the most

I am certain team 1L, team 2 W
, team 3 W?

can I improve or what

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

Revenge was a succed

[nimble swan]

I saw a cindy beating your stall team, I think when you won the whole thing.
Was your team not invested enough or was that cindy too strong? idk if you remember but I thought my Cindy would win against nero stall

[shell hazel]

some Cindy RNG can play into it

[harsh lake]

Yeah but soda still died way too fast. I see this matchup all the time in CA and only time Rosanna SG wins if they start from P5

[shell hazel]

depends who she happens to target

[hybrid fox]

attacker goes from P5

[shell hazel]

I've also beaten similar cindy comps, my stall comp still being built a bit as well tbh

[nimble swan]

anyway I will need to reroll a few lines on my cindy, same goes for helm

[umbral belfry]

@fathom rock @glad meteor you guys know what time it is

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

this will be my last bullying before I get bullied

[glad meteor]

Get him for me

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

the final of the bully trio in your sp I gotta take down for you

we did it chat

[primal charm]

no emilia is unfair =((

su pls rerun her

[shell hazel]

bully the bully 🙂

[cobalt niche]

glad i picked her up

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

The timw i got my revenge

[umbral belfry]

revenge complete

[solid gorge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY LOSE PREDICTION

[fathom rock]

JWOZ DONE FOR

[shell hazel]

I had this one in reverse and just went with majority vote, didn't get any credits 😄

[fathom rock]

gon get frame

[glad meteor]

Rosanna s2 gives burst gen upon a nikke dying

[shell hazel]

damn two surveys up at once, need my enrichment gems

[solid gorge]

again CN lobby this Arena...

[shell hazel]

I need to get back into top 8 next CA maybe 😄

[covert lintel]

This guy?
He's the one obsessed in my spa defense yesterday
I've seen all of his matches, apparently he got pretty much a counter match.
This time he would win too and get crushed by nozomu(if nozomu wins)

[quartz rover]

Hey hime do you think you'll win

My win frame is on the line

[shell hazel]

trust in Hime

[coarse solstice]

Pies will be top 4 trust

[harsh lake]

Yeah, I may have not phrased my question correctly. I know Rosanna’s burst gen and also scarlets counter. My question was specifically on why soda died so fast(even as SG) as typically this match up goes in favor of scarlets team since SG team still survive long enough for scarlet to burst first

[vivid basalt]

Heyy guys i need a new pvp sp arena for build strong def as same as atk

[glad meteor]

Soda died to scarlet s2

Assuming bunnysoda

Scarlet s2 is really strong against sgs

Scar had good rng

[placid bloom]

seem like abnormally high crit rate, I count 5/7 hits crit on just the counters. And there was some crit on the rocket splash too

[glad meteor]

Bro has op scar

[harsh lake]

Yeah but again its abnormal

[harsh lake]

Oooh ok, so this explains it. Thanks a lot. I rarely see this happened before

[umbral belfry]

I won't let u down

@acoustic light low-key mad that zid lost bc I would've put belt to ass in our run back

[quartz rover]

dammit

[tropic summit]

no clue

hurray 🍿

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit would you spend 100 gems on a snipe

[lunar pawn]

ok I cheered without really analyzing and got 3 losses in a row, guess I can try looking at matchups from now on

first matchup

[fathom rock]

Lose more for frame

[lunar pawn]

yea that's my goal

if I had to guess, they set it up so the one on the left wins

gotta look at teams later

[tropic summit]

meaningless, don't

[scarlet adder]

i will win by 1 point xD

[lunar pawn]

win
rookie

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-yes-toky-ok-buddy-gif-25173838

[coarse geyser]

Just wanted to drop a huge thank you for all the help from yall here. I appreciate you immensely.

[umbral belfry]

Darius wins

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina bsoda laplacet
noise rumani cind helmt noah
blanc emilia rh biscuit draket

before running, raise CP of the units marked in second SS

quantum on jackal, trina, emilia, drakeT
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

[quartz rover]

can't wait to see what horrors I get matched with

[tropic summit]

it's not rookie that you should fear

[fathom rock]

Fear spa

[quartz rover]

isnt rookie where all the points come from

[fathom rock]

You can literally not care about rookie aside from random daily 5 tries and still have enough funds for shop
Spa however gives gems...

[quartz rover]

and people pay the gems to go -800 when rewards come around

[fathom rock]

Imagine paying to stay in ca

[quartz rover]

imagine paying to lose in ca

[acoustic light]

https://tenor.com/view/guido-luigi-you-will-have-your-chance-wait-stop-gif-15083048157643144025

[fathom rock]

<@&946725432554836008> thanks in advance

#gacha-rolls

[scarlet adder]

dunno it is pvp nikke so why not here?

[fathom rock]

Still a gacha roll

[scarlet adder]

ok i will remove, 🙁

[wheat heart]

wanting to verify this. if you have a 2.5RL team and a RL shot whiffs, does that make the team burst slower, or do you still get the burst gen on miss?

[tropic summit]

depends how many RLs units whiff

and depends on what % you're on 2.5RL

if you're barely hitting 2.5RL with all units, then a single whiff will matter

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit am i still bricked in regards to pvp?i know i miss scarlet, noah, noise, rapunzel but it is not as bad as before

[tropic summit]

noah in particular is core unit for at least 1 anti nuke, so yes a bit bricked
scarlet you could survive without, but it would be better having her as she punishes feeding teams
noise and rapu are good to have, but can be running without

[scarlet adder]

isn't bay kind of a noah, i know much worse but kind of 😄

[tropic summit]

she does help you in dealing on attack against scarlet

on defense she won't be as effective

[limber patrol]

Does the 4th team have any chance?

[scarlet adder]

will sanis help me? i know she is good so probably yeah

[tropic summit]

she's good but not good enough to turn around your lack of those units above

[placid bloom]

Bay is slower so you have to commit more resources to match speed with her

Which can leave your other teams weaker

[scarlet adder]

yeahh i know she worse but still i am happy i have anything against nukes xD

[wicked horizon]

Can I get some help with this?
Really unsure about these matchups.
3-0 so far, trying to go for frame.

[cyan scroll]

ended the season at #1 lets gooo

[fathom rock]

Top/if their emi is indom target top/i am unsure/bottom/top looks more likely

Id vote top but hotta ask a 2nd opinion i suck i at pvp

[shell hazel]

eh it's rookie lol

https://tenor.com/view/it-means-nothing-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-that-doesnt-mean-anything-theres-nothing-into-it-its-useless-gif-23357931

[wicked horizon]

Well, I appreciate the second opinion in addition to my own, but yeah, you've not had great accuracy with your previous predictions.

[scarlet adder]

let people be happy about small things 🙂

[placid bloom]

I would assume it’s Ein indom

So Emi bursts and dies to Cinderella before she can nuke

And they are left with burst-less Ein to clean up

[shell hazel]

we don't raise sheep here, we raise lions, we can only celebrate SPA rank 1 or high rank in CA

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[scarlet adder]

sorry i don't have cash to beat my top 3 whales so i am happy with my 1# rookie :p

[shell hazel]

poor excuse sir just get a higher paying job

and then give 50% of your salary to daddy shift up

[placid bloom]

T4 can be SG win because Ros will unlink the LapT who can die and trigger Ros to burst ReiTN

[wheat heart]

Going frame by frame it looks like i bursted at 3.5RL (I'm on bottom).

My Helm CS is 21%, Biscuit 18.8%, Rap 17%.

I can't see the older replays to see if it was just a bad burst or if I'm actually not getting 2.5RL like I should. Not seeing whiffs either but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

[wicked horizon]

Another problem is that I think it's bot, bot, top, top bot, which is about the exact opposite from you.

[tropic summit]

the answer is simple here, you're hitting 2.5RL via nero, your nero got stunned, you no longer hit threshold

look at the bar on the right

[wheat heart]

but shouldn't moran at least burst before siren stun? since it hits at just before 3RL

[umbral belfry]

he's a new player. let loot be happy

[tropic summit]

i don't see whiffs

[shell hazel]

we don't allow happy here, only pain

[umbral belfry]

[acoustic light]

just gotta distract urself with some campaign malding

[umbral belfry]

malding on 40% deficit in ch27

[shell hazel]

to be fair several people were celebrating number 1 rookie not just loot :p

[umbral belfry]

a pvp goon can't survive in these pve conditions

[wicked horizon]

@tropic summit Do you care to take a look?
At least fights 3 and 4. I'm least sure about those.

[shell hazel]

you need to mald campaign harder

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

if I can do it you can do it

full send the needful

[umbral belfry]

the difference is you lean pve more than me

[shell hazel]

I don't know what pve is

[tropic summit]

oh i think i get it, helmt is shooting p5, which is cindy on decoy, her effect might not be triggering

[shell hazel]

I was born in the pvp

[umbral belfry]

[wheat heart]

ahhh so it's a decoy thing

[acoustic light]

my tetra tower team has noise and rosa for cp pad

[umbral belfry]

noise

[tropic summit]

not sure lemme ask the experts

@glad meteor @crystal flicker @placid bloom do we know of weird interactions with helmT shooting decoy on cindy perhaps not triggering her added burst gen?

Ref.:#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

ermm

I might be doing the same thing ..

[umbral belfry]

is it obvious that I like noise a lot

[fathom rock]

Lee look again then
T1 : soda stuns 2 units on burst, youd have to pray for bottom to win cuz if she stuns bay ggs, realistically its rng
T2 : if siren stun on ein still keeps emilia indomming by good planning, emi wil burst indom and nuke, if ein gets indom then thwy lose, check previous matches for that
T3 : i literally clueless
T4 : if laplace maiden kills p1 in 2rl rossana nukes em and top wins, an oversight i had
T5 : who attacking in your charts again?

[umbral belfry]

I'm doing alice rouge blanc bsoda noise

bc alice was my og

[acoustic light]

oh yea same

is my most invested

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

my missilis is trina liter drakeT lapT naga 😄

[placid bloom]

interesting, I don't see the extra hit from her s2 proc

[hollow lagoon]

Legend has it that the hippo chocked his evil twin brother while still a embryo

[tropic summit]

ye this is curious

[shell hazel]

chocked them? what kind of chocolate? 😮

[placid bloom]

I mean it shouldn't be as big of a deal? Because her s1 is the bulk of her burst gen

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

which is kinda weird

[tropic summit]

appearently it lead to hit 3.5RL instead of 2.5RL

[hollow lagoon]

Since ur using a naga pfp it must be a tia pfp twin

[tropic summit]

but i dunno i might be missing something else

[shell hazel]

my tetra tower is noise rosa alice blanc noir 😄

[shell hazel]

who is tia? I dunno who that is

[hollow lagoon]

LOL

[placid bloom]

lemme check the gauge %

[shell hazel]

-# whistles quietly whilst walking away

so cindy p5 is OP vs stall comp helmT? welcome to bug arena 😄

[tropic summit]

dunno first time i see this tbh, might be something else

[hollow lagoon]

Still better than the scarletless scarlet

[tropic summit]

although spaghetti code wouldn't be a surprise

[glad meteor]

S2 doesn’t activate when hitting decoy

[tropic summit]

@wheat heart @placid bloom there we go

[placid bloom]

actually it does matter quite a bit to not get the extra s2 proc

[tropic summit]

thanks Kara

[placid bloom]

since it's 2.8% per proc, so they're missing 7.4%

by third shot

[wheat heart]

drops from 2.5 to 3.5

[shell hazel]

I may have had a similar match before let me see if I can find it

[placid bloom]

and their gauge is almost exact 100% at 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

ye there's the thing with nero getting stunned aswell but oh well

[shell hazel]

Hime you need to catch me up

[tropic summit]

i've a feeling in around 6-9 months you're gonna pass me

[wicked horizon]

T1: Soda stunning Bay is 40%, so 60% they lose.
T2: I don't see why Emilia should be the one indomed.
T5: Bottom attacks, I also include it on my screenshots.

[shell hazel]

what sync are you rail?

I'm 361 after the patch prob, or close to it

[tropic summit]

421, with boxes past 441

[shell hazel]

got a while to catch you yet

[hollow lagoon]

Which stage

[hollow lagoon]

U literal 4 stage past dust breakpoint im milking 87 dust too

[tropic summit]

ye but hippo has got a secret weapon at his disposal ||💳 ||

[hollow lagoon]

Wot

[fathom rock]

T1 fair enough
T2 : check last matches and find out who jack link and who indoms for that, could be intended to counter siren
T5 : bottom if noise ded cuz then ross just nukes rest, if sanis kill noir too bottom win

I still have no clue about t3

[shell hazel]

I think you'll find my 💳 weak vs zanta 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Mine’s getting weak I’m cutting down

I’m no longer buying daily core dust

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown

[fathom rock]

Mine dont exist

[glad meteor]

Thats rosy lol

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[hollow lagoon]

I’m shifting towards solo raids now since I know I can make 3% most of the time now

Also I mald 30% now, 35%+ is fun but after a while the stress pile up and life is ment to be enjoyable

[wicked horizon]

T2: I did, but last match they just lost before Blanc could even burst. Emilia and Ein were the ones Jackal linked, and maybe Emilia having less CP indicates lower HP, but idk why she'd be in 3rd position then. (Matches before the last won't load, but the team lost anyways.)
T3: I think the Helms just one-shot each other, and then it's a slow battle which top wins because they have Laplace (a damage dealer)
T5: idk, top's team is super weird. Like, what's Noah doing? Laughing at everyone? Bay's damage distribution barely helps against their team, Blanc is gonna indom someone, Rosanna's gonna do serious damage... I see no way top could win that. Shotguns are really strong if you can't nuke them first or invuln yourself as far as I've seen.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[fathom rock]

Woth jack link pos dont matter for indom just hp unless non linked gets hit, none of their prev matches had the team burst?
Both helm get taunted here

[fathom rock]

Come help torn

[glad meteor]

Nero or moran taunt helm nuke

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-goldship-uma-musume-gif-152341959483515608

i'm horsing around, literally

[fathom rock]

Its been 10h take a break

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-mj-gif-16300409534087469760

[tropic summit]

i've just started it 20 min ago

[tropic summit]

that has to be a lie

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/komik-gif-26379988

[hollow lagoon]

I’m ready to ascend to 441 when patch drops

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

oh maybe i had it windowed

[wicked horizon]

Good point.
But I still think Laplace gives an edge.

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Nero and moran hp both take forever to deplete and biscuit help both survive longer but less damage
I literally have no clue how it goes

[wicked horizon]

Anything but the last match says it's too old and won't load.
But it shows they lost.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/holo-live-hololive-gura-gawr-gif-27618194

[fathom rock]

Check the final result of match and show pls?

[glad meteor]

Yeah, me too

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit
Nero moran helmT rapu lappy
Vs
Nero moran helmT rapu biscuit

[acoustic light]

when 🥺

[tropic summit]

le laplus version generally winneroni

[wicked horizon]

Stop bothering the man. If he doesn't wanna help, he doesn't wanna.

[glad meteor]

Its rosy comp too

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

pls rerun

[glad meteor]

He’s the only one who run ein

[umbral belfry]

maybe if I keep raising my noise cp, su will rerun it

[fathom rock]

In laplace we pray

[glad meteor]

whale talk

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-lenny-face-eyebrow-raise-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-gif-16096785

[umbral belfry]

155k cp in ca here we come

[fathom rock]

But still gotta know if emi or ein gets indom

[glad meteor]

Even my cindy not that strong

[glad meteor]

Ein

[tropic summit]

we can't relate

[umbral belfry]

I'm f2p

[wicked horizon]

Scarlet wipe

[fathom rock]

Did rosy tell you?

[acoustic light]

donate some cores 🥺

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-spy-x-family-season2-soy-x-family-loid-spy-x-family-loid-spy-x-family-loid-forger-gif-26975986

[glad meteor]

His comp is made to indom ein and wipe the team

[wicked horizon]

And this one wasn't a fair fight. Everyone lived.

[glad meteor]

Ein need to stay alive to trigger her feathers

[fathom rock]

If so then it loses there

[wicked horizon]

It's fine, I'll flunk the last match anyways.
I've gone 5-1 in predictions thrice now.

[glad meteor]

Having emi in p3 kinda bricks him against siren

[fathom rock]

? /bottom/top?/top/bottom my final guess

[wicked horizon]

Coinflip arena.

[magic hornet]

Is bay (treasure) good for pvp? if so, what would be a good team using her?

[fathom rock]

Good for tanking one hit nuke, kind of a noah replacement when countering scar

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, sure. She's like a weaker version of Noah, kind of. Stops a nuke.
You don't really build around her, usually, but I wouldn't know what her usual team is (since it doesn't see much use in SPA).

[placid bloom]

it's only really viable if you're attacking with Helm into a Scar Jackal team

most other teams cannot 2RL with Bay without needing a lot of clips

[fathom rock]

Moran bay team in spa

[magic hornet]

Ah, I see\

[tropic summit]

there's another feedless option

won't need noah or helmt

particularly useful if you dealing with 2 teams on 2RL and you wanna spare your noah and helmt

[placid bloom]

that one is okay too

[tropic summit]

xmaiden doubles down as jackal link killer so that works perfectly

[placid bloom]

but it's still taking Jackal

so either way it's one of your big gen options gone

[tropic summit]

well you've noah biscuit and helmt open for the usual 2RL cindy or any indom options

if you can't win with those units left, you doing something wrong

[glad meteor]

Is there a fight where the ein team has a nikke with high damage taken bar

[placid bloom]

the point is more that it's better on Atk because you only need to split your clips between 2 teams than 3

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

attack is really all about the attacker lacking the tools or being CP gapped, else is just doing a mistake

there should be no unsolvable def aside the 2 above scenarios

which is the exact core issue of current nikke pvp defense

meaningless.

[wicked horizon]

No.
It's 3 fights. 2 they got nuked before Blanc could burst and 1 they wiped the enemy without going low.

[glad meteor]

Rosy has core diff so I can’t say for sure if emi could get indom

[umbral belfry]

once you gimme some lap cores

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/laplace-nikke-running-window-hero-gif-10705365235044371178

[wicked horizon]

Who's Rosy?

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown oi there's ppl that still don't know you

[glad meteor]

Changes name a lot

[tropic summit]

yeah that doesn't help

[acoustic light]

we need to spend more money

[umbral belfry]

I've never spent a penny on this game

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

it is that time of the month again

[limber patrol]

what lines do I want for Nero?

[shell hazel]

belorta generator

[glad meteor]

Get scar on my behalf

[limber patrol]

defense only?

[umbral belfry]

noah

[tropic summit]

time to get a belorta

[umbral belfry]

atk ele would be nice. def is good for nero too

[placid bloom]

well at least it's not SR

[shell hazel]

time to feel enriched by a belorta

[umbral belfry]

at least it's a ssr

[glad meteor]

I got a grave from there too

[shell hazel]

hey my last one was grave as well, could be worse lol

[glad meteor]

Recent ones have been sw and grave

Also srs/r

[umbral belfry]

my last was belorta

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

But you whel

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

nah hime is f2p

[shell hazel]

Hime don't spend

[umbral belfry]

a true whale would have c7 at least 1 pilgrim

i have none, confirmed f2p

[glad meteor]

Oh, I mistook her for someone else then

[tropic summit]

indeed

she's only free to pay

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Me too. I don’t have a paid skin 🧌

[umbral belfry]

whale

[glad meteor]

[fathom rock]

Still f2p cuz i didnt buy it right?

[shell hazel]

a true whale would have a bank loan just for nikke

[umbral belfry]

biggest whale in this discord

[glad meteor]

It was isabel skin. I had to

[tropic summit]

a true whale would sell their house for nikke

why do you think hime moved recently for

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/on-a-mission-mission-travel-backpacking-serious-gif-13555871

[quartz rover]

how this team?

[fathom rock]

15cs jackal too right?

[tropic summit]

they ded

you winnerino

[umbral belfry]

get em

[quartz rover]

I dont think indom will go on ein

[fathom rock]

Ggs

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

you don't need indom, they'll die after nuke or shortly after

[fathom rock]

I think it doesnt matter cuz ein nuke em anyway

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Indom jackal

[quartz rover]

also regarding this, I lose. not sure how I can beat this or their team 2

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-ein-ein-nikke-gif-4871093139824603656

[tropic summit]

post the 3 matchups and ur box, we can't cook without sauce

[umbral belfry]

you are feeding jackal a grand feast with 3 mgs. a lost was bound to happen

[fathom rock]

Is that noise indom

[umbral belfry]

2b

[quartz rover]

I have a screenshot somewhere lemme check

[fathom rock]

Crown biscuit sbs here tank 2b and kill eventually even if delayed right? @umbral belfry

[quartz rover]

yeah shes indom

[tropic summit]

that won't be lethal anyway, it's unbuffed nuke

[umbral belfry]

i'm not in the know of 2b @coarse solstice that's ura's waifu

[tropic summit]

he just needs single target DPS

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

moran bursts on 4RL, delete the rest of the team first

[umbral belfry]

also moran + bisc should stop sbs

so it's counter vs counter i guess

[fathom rock]

Does dd bug apply to 2b too?

[umbral belfry]

it's bisc that bugs it, not sbs/2b/etc

[coarse solstice]

It's hard to say, we still need more fights to know for sure. Plus my 2B isn't a fair example to what most people will have

[tropic summit]

box:

#pvp-arena message

matchup attached

[unique wagon]

Retro, are u purposefully avoiding me

[umbral belfry]

c7 2b

[fathom rock]

Why would you assume that

[quartz rover]

my ein is my 4th strongest nikke ig

referring to power

[fathom rock]

Whats stopping him from using ein team vs noise matchup and using crown biscu vs the sdoro matchup

[scarlet adder]

but doesn't sbs attack all? does bicuit really counters it?

[coarse solstice]

Right where she is supposed to be

[quartz rover]

nothing, my power is higher now

[fathom rock]

Used to, but now she bugged

[placid bloom]

we don't know if it's bug or intentional change

[scarlet adder]

😮 so she attack single target like RH :O?

[fathom rock]

Pins had a msg about this right?

[placid bloom]

her AoE used to be nullified if it hit invin target

now it hits the rest of the team normally

[tropic summit]

@quartz rover check CP and post the matchups

you going for noise + blanc kill within 3RL

jackal will be your indom based on invest

[umbral belfry]

before this, noah/moran + bisc hard countered sbs bc when they taunt, sbs targets them. and bc they are protected by bisc the whole party receive 0 dmg. as of now, sbs can go through bisc's protection and hit the whole team even when vs noah/moran + bisc.

so now it's possible for a sbs team to win vs them

[quartz rover]

I'm at 201 so I think my power should suffice now, right

[fathom rock]

#pvp-arena message

But there is bug rn

[scarlet adder]

so this bug/feature no longer happens?

[umbral belfry]

starting to think this is intentional tho

[placid bloom]

it's still happening

so you cannot wall SBS with Biscuit tank

[tropic summit]

hitting 0 distributed damage should distribute 0 dmg, felt "reasonable" but you never know what is the truth to SU

[upper grove]

murderous swordswoman can't be stopped by doggo nikke

[umbral belfry]

bughara being fixed or dist dmg being fixed first, who do you guys have

the right answer is neither

[upper grove]

when will CA beta ever end

[tropic summit]

in 2030

shortly before EoS specifically

[quartz rover]

154111 for the ein comp and 168644 with crown one

[placid bloom]

they will fix SBS bug after you lock in 2RL SBS indom for next CA just like they fix BayT after team submission already locked

[umbral belfry]

ok imma do 2rl indom sbs next ca trust

[upper grove]

do it

[quartz rover]

you're gonna win this matchup right hime?

[umbral belfry]

i should

[quartz rover]

my winning frame is on the line rn

[umbral belfry]

but if i don't then oops

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

p sure i do though, kuwon don't vote that means i lose

[quartz rover]

and I need those credit packs

[placid bloom]

I am not even voting your match, I am voting cup's

[fathom rock]

Time to try new def that only has 1 good team

[tropic summit]

154111 for the ein comp vs 184 = you need 155k
168644 with crown one vs 149 = good

boost something in ein comp, OL/affection/skills

[fathom rock]

Cube

[tropic summit]

since you need RH and ein for pve aswell it's gonna be fine

[fathom rock]

Use cubes

[placid bloom]

but you see, there is a problem

[quartz rover]

will drake be used in pvp or does she get phased out?

[limber patrol]

does anyone have a Nero team champion arena investment guide?

[umbral belfry]

drakeT is always used in CA, sp and rookie not so much

[quartz rover]

I can level her sr doll with some yellow cases

[tropic summit]

she has a slot in fire SR and SG team, won't be benched at least

[placid bloom]

all my blind vote this season failed

[umbral belfry]

loser frame

[limber patrol]

go for the loser frame

[placid bloom]

I already have both frame, that's why I am blind voting without looking at matchup

[upper grove]

I'm using drakeT as a battery in SP on attack because my RL batteries tank CP

[umbral belfry]

you had 2 votes in my group thank god it wasn''t me

wait you voted against your sp mate

the blind vote is a cruel mistress

[placid bloom]

no I voted for him

and he lost

[umbral belfry]

oh

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

rip your credits

[placid bloom]

he didn't even copy my Scar Soda team correctly, Soda p3

[umbral belfry]

soda p3 classic mistake

[tropic summit]

he's going for RNG soda over anti taunt soda

[fathom rock]

Nero : 10/10/4
Moran : 10/10/10
Rapunzel : 4/4/4 works fine
HelmT : 10/10/10 15cs
If Other rocket launcher : have either them or rapunzel 15cs
If mana : max lvl s2

And get all of them lv7 tempering and sr15 and ol, goal is to stack dr and get 2.5rl speed

[limber patrol]

why people use soda?

[fathom rock]

Stun

[placid bloom]

I mean if there is no taunt then it is RNG anyway

[umbral belfry]

she stuns 2 random people. if she's in p1/p2 vs a taunter(s), she 100% stuns them\

[quartz rover]

what are some good starter drake skills, gotta pad somehow

[tropic summit]

4/4/4

[limber patrol]

how effective is it? does it work against 2RL teams?
why people don't use her in SPA?

[tropic summit]

they do they just don't show it

because the moment you do your entire bracket will

[quartz rover]

mission accomplished. 156k

[tropic summit]

which makes defense even more pointless

[umbral belfry]

it works against 2rl noise and noah when she's in p2. no escape

[placid bloom]

I mean it's easy to counter

so it's not even that good

[tropic summit]

can you go 157k

you don't wanna hit the border of 15.5% due to rounding

[umbral belfry]

i think kuwon used scar soda when we fought in league and i remember praying not to stun bay 😭

[placid bloom]

it's like SG team, it works better when people can't build their team around it

[acoustic light]

it makes it hard to test teams

kuwon are we gonna see each other in rookie tmrw

[umbral belfry]

is kuwon using scar soda in your sp

[quartz rover]

Yeah I can, ill attempt to hit them after work so I can cook and wack #2 in succession

[fathom rock]

Aslong as you get it to 2.5rl should
Dies to blanc+rh buffed nuke, really fast giga buff scar and outstalling with same team, used in spa when someone actually affords it and always used in ca

[placid bloom]

I don't think anyone has ever been removed from our rookie, only people added

[fathom rock]

There is also moran bay to counter scar

[placid bloom]

I always see the same people, just some stopped trying so they are low rank now

[umbral belfry]

lemme in there

[fathom rock]

I actually have mroan nero users in my bracket

[tropic summit]

cursed bracket

[acoustic light]

I would 😭

[placid bloom]

maybe in 4 months I will have Nero team

[fathom rock]

Ch8 btw

[placid bloom]

but it won't matter cuz CP gapped

[tropic summit]

at least he's in range

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

you gonna hit him?

[acoustic light]

just gotta push campaign

[fathom rock]

I already did thanks to kind peeps here helping

[tropic summit]

ah good thing there's kind peeps

[placid bloom]

Kun already pushed farther

[fathom rock]

Sync 301?

[placid bloom]

no more catching up

he is 353 I think?

[acoustic light]

Im catching up

[placid bloom]

yeah he is 353 now

[acoustic light]

just got to ch26 rn

[placid bloom]

I can barely swing over him atm

[umbral belfry]

slow down

[fathom rock]

Well i have advantage over my pvp in na

[tropic summit]

liter with emilia, desperation is something else

[umbral belfry]

retro gonna pass me i stand no chance against a true pve goon

[placid bloom]

I'm still stuck on 24-34 my CP too low

[tropic summit]

a true pve goon that plays on mobile with bricked FPS*

[acoustic light]

is that the 3 farter one

[placid bloom]

7 farter base defense

[glad meteor]

What I fear when I see emi vs noise noah cindy

[upper grove]

how much I did at 547k

retro is just built different. mobile mald is something else

[quartz rover]

I'll attack them after work looking forward to the jackal indom

[languid mason]

what sp areana team can i make with this

[acoustic light]

same ill see how far I can push today

[fathom rock]

I got lowest clear on the 2 hardest ch26 stages

[umbral belfry]

lock in phoric

[upper grove]

26-25 and 26-17 I think?

[tropic summit]

there's a saying afterall:

There's a fine line between genius and madness.

[placid bloom]

50/100 Rapi too strong

I wish my Rapi was that strong

[fathom rock]

Scarlet invested?

[upper grove]

those 2 stupid stages are etched in my memory

[upper grove]

I'm malding on PC and it gets more frustrating than souls bosses at times. Can't imagine to mald on phone

[languid mason]

only her skills are max, equipment not so much

[fathom rock]

17 https://youtu.be/13GdUEOyGpE
25 https://youtu.be/C79dhdd9yIY

[shell hazel]

I do remember those annoying stages though I feel like 27 had more annoying ones than 26

[placid bloom]

26 infinitely easier because iron weak

[quartz rover]

[fathom rock]

She have gear nice

[upper grove]

27-9, 27-12, 27-21, 27-24

[shell hazel]

also maybe the cp deficit made 27 feel harder 😄

[quartz rover]

this dudes team is swole

[upper grove]

damn sir, I appreciate the power point presentation malding! I cleared both stages at 566k, much higher than you did

[shell hazel]

mobile mald pausing 😄

[eager mountain]

[upper grove]

I always feel bad when I pause to mald stages. but then it's just fair if some stage dev screws with us

[umbral belfry]

im stuck in 27-9 rn

[shell hazel]

lock in (and then get stuck right after lol)

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Mobile pause scum against mc is fun

[shell hazel]

with how some of these stages are honestly I don't feel bad 😄

[upper grove]

worst malding I did recently was 28-37

[shell hazel]

27-24 took the most malding

[upper grove]

ch 27 is suffering

[quartz rover]

remember this guy railtracer? he's gonna say hello to my big campaign team

[umbral belfry]

bully

[shell hazel]

my 27-24 628K CP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEr6vyZEtIA

[quartz rover]

not a bully

[tropic summit]

you're learning alright

[quartz rover]

he's c2

correction: c5

[fathom rock]

Scarlet/trina/redhood/xmaid/jackal

Noah/biscuit/sbs/helmT/noise, quantums on noah biscuit helmt if possible lv3 fine

Power padding with siren

How we feeling about this

[quartz rover]

he didnt change the defense at all

naga op????

[fathom rock]

Guess what

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind helmt rrh
jackal siren scarlet trina xmaiden
noah biscuit ein rh draket

quantum on jackal, trina, xmaiden
temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit
rest run highest lvl cubes available

raise CP of units attached, consider laplaceT

[fathom rock]

Sg have good bruteforce dmg

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

SG hit hard as is, give them over 30% deficit and that happens

[quartz rover]

I can tell, jesus

no wonder people run shotgun teams

[tropic summit]

don't get too used to CP padding although

you won't learn much from that

[fathom rock]

Just 💳

[quartz rover]

oh yeah ofc

I'll just cook up a monster cake

It's a shame I can't see peoples team without an attempt

curious what c1 team is

[tropic summit]

you can buy 1 token and just keep it and never spend it, it allows you to do that

[fathom rock]

<@&946725432554836008>

[quartz rover]

cause the power gap doesnt seem too high

[glad meteor]

Modernia

[tropic summit]

ye that's reasonable, that's why i placed siren in p5

[quartz rover]

do you think team 1 is his campaign

[tropic summit]

considering modernia in there, probably

[shell hazel]

chal 2

[fathom rock]

No one told me how well this would work

[tropic summit]

is this defense or what

[fathom rock]

Ye

[quartz rover]

so if I buy a try, will it stay there and not go away for daily and stuff?

[umbral belfry]

imp going strong in pvp

[shell hazel]

token are spent last

just be careful not to spend it when you're free tries are done

I still have 2 tokens from the free ones we had all that time ago 😄

[quartz rover]

I understand why he's been c1 since I unlocked sp

[tropic summit]

looks doable

[shell hazel]

noah p1 abusable

[tropic summit]

you can actually play T1 on deficit

[shell hazel]

high feed

[quartz rover]

I'll have to do it tonight, I slacked off enough already

[tropic summit]

although you only need 178k for T1 so you can probably even dodge penalty

as for T3 it's gonna be trickier

[fathom rock]

If you think about it, you push higher deficit as a result so is it if you go for very low clears

[tropic summit]

as you lack noah and helmt

your 2RL indom is also punished by rosanna

[shell hazel]

their t3 low cp though

[limber patrol]

lmao what's the point of Rosanna in Scarlet team?

[fathom rock]

Cp gap t3 and be cp gapped in t1 but with biscu

[tropic summit]

seems reasonable

[glad meteor]

Eve surprisingly has good p1 damage

[shell hazel]

168K cp gaps t3

[fathom rock]

Her burst kill 2 attacker when invested but imagine ross invest at this sync
there are variations of scar team with lv1 sac to abuse rossana burst gen for earlt attacker nuke and slow down enemy but those lose on cp a lot and this aint one of em

[glad meteor]

Kill their b3 before b2

Only if attacker though

[tropic summit]

box: #pvp-arena message
@fathom rock you can cook this

[fathom rock]

Cook the atk?

[tropic summit]

reference:

[tropic summit]

ye sure

[limber patrol]

Rosanna can kill?!?

[tropic summit]

did you live in a cave so far?

[glad meteor]

Sometimes. Depends on investment

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-rosanna-gif-13235111528686501510

[glad meteor]

In before nikke left at 5% hp and gets indommed

[limber patrol]

lvl 10 skills and 4 atk lines will be enough investment?

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 30-40atk%, crit rate is also a welcome bonus

ele atk% to delete helmt and emilia

[glad meteor]

Relative to how strong your enemy is. And there is b1s that make it harder like noise or moran

[limber patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-noting-listening-writing-write-that-down-gif-1206669466397048571

[fathom rock]

Vs t1 : crown/biscuit/ein/redhood/jackal
Vs t3 : siren/rrh/naga/tove/alice
Show powers

[quartz rover]

Sure

[fathom rock]

Show power before atk

[vivid basalt]

My t2 t3 lose bcs he changed his team

[fathom rock]

Make your t2 noah/biscuit /sbs/helmT/rumani

[fathom rock]

Sbs or cindy bith work fine

[tropic summit]

T1 jackal scarlet trina rumani (flex clip RL) sbs (flex)
T2 noah biscuit helmt emilia noise (flex B1)
T3 skip

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit no way ein comp win at 25% deficit me think

[tropic summit]

yes you're doing it wrong

[vivid basalt]

Alright lemme try

[tropic summit]

check CP before running obviously

multiply enemy score for 0.846, if you're lower, change the flex units

[fathom rock]

Crown biscuit rrh rh jackal maybe enough?

[fathom rock]

@quartz rover
How much power

[fathom rock]

T1 would lose, how much power if use rrh instead of ein

[tropic summit]

post these matchups

[fathom rock]

Isnt this just letting viper eat both his b1s

[tropic summit]

won't matter, their team loses the trade

[fathom rock]

Also eve would be lethal

[tropic summit]

they can't burst if you kill siren

4RL noah and little mermaid are dead or stunned

[tropic summit]

keep in mind RRH has time to hit bombs aswell in 4RL

and you need to push CP either way

so realistically, those 2 are the only walkable options

[raven plover]

nah not him, its Rhoaias opponent

[tropic summit]

you're 8k short, guess you gonna have to wait

[fathom rock]

But this means t1 wont fight in deficit and therefore he cant win cuz too little cp?

[tropic summit]

also "only" 20% cp deficit on T3, they could potentially still wipe you

[fathom rock]

That viper would absolutely vaporize him

[tropic summit]

he is 8k behind regardless

he can't hit ch1 atm

[vivid basalt]

Thx a lot

[tropic summit]

although he can once he gets helm treasured or any more invest in campaign

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[fathom rock]

And cant run jackal to tank and burst boost enough?

[tropic summit]

i don't see his teams making it

feel free to give it a try if you confident tho

if he wasn't in deficit in T1 even with my suggestion i think he had a solid chance

just a matter of time

[fathom rock]

If im confident i wouldnt even ask you
I was tailoring comps based on him fighting in deficit

Just dont take the atk right move ig

[tropic summit]

mhm

but he's very soon in range

as long as he doesn't get further gapped that is

[vivid basalt]

Ahh i need to change my def pvp as atk in sp team, any reference?

[fathom rock]

Now i go do other daily and see if my def held up, no one wanna tell me something

[umbral crown]

Thats me

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

about the def? it's not that good

but it's different from usual, so maybe some monkeys will fall for it hopefully

[flat ermine]

Cheer went well, @tropic summit thx for the help, 3/3 for now

[fathom rock]

Your emi or ein indom?

Bruh guess am eeping instead of waiting

[umbral crown]

My nero team has never lost a mirror and i can do 2 burst but enemy just 1 cuz they have biscuit

[umbral crown]

Ein should be

[lunar pawn]

thoughts? top defender, bottom attacker

right now thinking attacker will:
t1 lose (initial attacks will immediately quickfeed jackal before rosanna removes the link, should be enough time for blanc to indom someone before a wipe)
t2 win/rng (depends on soda stun)
t3 win (attacker gets quickfed before rosanna unlinks, laplace might die but should be enough time to noah burst by reaching full gauge at 2RL)
t4 lose (no sustain vs sustain stall)
t5 lose (siren'd)

so overall attacker loss

@oblique ridge could use your insights for this one

[oblique ridge]

How much feed is the T1’s attacker SG team, are you able to check? Toggle on Show Data while having that SG team loaded

[lunar pawn]

like so? never used the function cus Idk what it does

[umbral crown]

[oblique ridge]

It basically explains that by the time 2 RL elapses, the SG team will have fired 193 hits (includes each pellet or AoE hits) and have fed the enemy Jackal 67.45% burst gen

[lunar pawn]

aha, well, we should count only 50 shots anyway

[oblique ridge]

You can halve it in this particular case to get 1RL speed worth of feed

So 33.725% fed by 1RL elapses. When does Rosanna dispel kick in, in RL time?

[lunar pawn]

no clue, after 10 shots, which she gets quickly enough, but not before the first shot of all shotguns

[oblique ridge]

If burst gen RL is constant, then after 1RL the Emilia team has done 41.2% burst gen. This isn’t fully accurate, so is rough math in the hopes I didn’t miss something important

42.2% + 33.725% = 75.9% basically, in 1RL

Then needs only 25.1% more to have full burst bar

[lunar pawn]

jackal should be 3.55% every 10 hits, so almost 18% by herself not including quantum with 50 shots

so would reach 2RL

[oblique ridge]

I see 2RL to 2.5RL only gave Emilia team a mere 1.2% gain of burst gen

Yeah. 2RL is guaranteed, it looks like

I’ll try to find Rosanna dispel time in RL time to be sure, worth knowing, I guess

I had somebody’s note saved somewhere

[lunar pawn]

[oblique ridge]

1.67s for dispel, and by then SGs fired 3 times

[lunar pawn]

girl takes 1.67s to dispel? damn thought she was faster

[oblique ridge]

And this helps put into perspective

1.33s is 1RL if no charge speed

[lunar pawn]

so yea, that team will be eating good

[oblique ridge]

So yep 1RL worth of SG shots being eaten

And a bit more I guess

[lunar pawn]

my biggest grievance is with t2

[oblique ridge]

If Emilia lives (as in the linked trio doesn’t drop dead), Blanc should be able to save her ass

[lunar pawn]

would be funny if we see an indom bug where it goes to nobody

funny and sad, ofc

[oblique ridge]

I’m just worried that I didn’t properly account for burst gen stall just as Emilia gets delinked

Because even if you’re very close to full bar, you still can’t burst

Then Emilia is just sitting there eating SG shots until death

T2 is rng

T3 should be attacker wins

T4 should be attacker loses

T5 I have no confidence

[lunar pawn]

should be attacker loss afaik, nero gets stunned before attacker is even able to b1

and then noise buffed cindy nuke vs 35% dmg reduction team with no heal other than on moran

by the time helm will nuke, she should already be dead due to elem difference

<@&946725432554836008>

[umbral crown]

@wicked horizon

Have an idea

[covert lintel]

All of his opponents are uninvested nikke

I think his crown has a big ED so even in 1sec, she can make scar near die then cindy dealt a final blow
But i'm surprised soda stun goes to cindy cover

[raven plover]

damn whiffed shots cus crown dies

[quartz rover]

it was nice while it lasted 🙁

[swift mango]

I don't think I helped.

[swift mango]

@covert lintel

You aren't first anymore.

[distant halo]

Looking to dip my toes in the PVP arena (SP).. I've been looking through guides online and I'd like a bit more advice on team building.

[pearl fractal]

how to win?

[quick lake]

Can follow Rinn’s suggestions.
Get Helm treasure asap

Centi to 4/4/4 4OL
Check pins for team ideas

[graceful grotto]

he already has rumani hahaha

3rd row no. 2

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Bay Rumani Cindy THelm
T2: Scar Trina RH Centi Jackal
T3: Skip

[quick lake]

Alice Drake Centi RH Rumani
DKW liter Naga Laplace Noir
Auto

Wishlist Noah, Jackal, Trina, Scar, SBS, Jackal
Can reference teams in pins, and slowly aim to craft those teams. Priority is still to push campaign and break 160 wall

Prydwen pvp guides are a good starting point to und pvp mechanics (which is quite diff from pve)

[peak fjord]

I’m not sure what helm treasure means, I’ll do research. Thanks!!

[distant halo]

I'll try this out! Thanks

[quick lake]

Get Helm’s fav item! Needs LB2 Helm though

[peak fjord]

Oh gotcha!

[umbral crown]

Lets pray i get new people in rookie

[quick lake]

I hope ppl shift out of my Spa

[swift mango]

it's that time of the year again?

[umbral crown]

I noticed just like few hours ago

[umbral crown]

Send me some active people dead brackers not the way

[oblique ridge]

The dreaded "Reorganizing" of Rookie Arena

https://tenor.com/view/whale-horizon-gif-25155473

[umbral crown]

And then i log after maint to see the same people for over a year where just 2 people use decent pvp teams, the rest auto pve team ans they do not even try to attack

At least i wish to be in some of the my rivals in CA

Maybe i could have more comps to test

[swift mango]

Try to create an account in SEA, JPN, KR or at least NA.

[oblique ridge]

Mental image of NA whale arriving in JP, only to be eaten alive by the JP whales

[swift mango]

This is hard, because people would just copy the comp of the top guy.

It was scar+blanc and now it Noah+Biscuit+Helm. In my bracket.

[swift mango]

doubt, who gonna eat Keripo?

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

Are you still in though?

[umbral crown]

Still ez to beat, my x maiden comp can beat any scar team

[umbral crown]

Lets goo

But emiless account

Will do when they rerun emi

[pearl fractal]

No noah or bay 😭

[umbral crown]

Of course

On my way to get the winner frame

There is no way i can lose this time

We the defenders are Pilgrim tier but the attackers are normal nikkes

[swift mango]

Idk, 2/3 time I got champ were attacker,

[umbral crown]

SBS vs Doro

[umbral crown]

Oh, the only time i went in finals was attacking as well

[swift mango]

It's your run now.

[umbral crown]

about time

Then holding it till Beta Season 30

[swift mango]

We are at opposite end. I'm top left.

[umbral crown]

Maybe its a sign

[umbral crown]

You trying any new comp this CA?

I did a weird cook and it got me some wins

[swift mango]

Well, I changed 4 teams a bit. So random is random.
Most noticeable is bursting with Miranda. That's it.

[umbral crown]

I treasured miranda , gonna use her next season

CA is the only place to test comps

Thr weird cook i did was Noise/BayT/S.Anis/Rumani/Noah

[swift mango]

Well, I just replace Noise with BayT so I could burst with Miranda.
P1 Noah with healing from Bay to survive. All my rl 11%+ so not worry about Siren.

[umbral crown]

Yeah, happened to me against a SG comp, noah survived in P5 with bay heals

BayT went champ with S1 lv9 but now its max

[swift mango]

But you burst with Bay,

[umbral crown]

Gonna.make her 10/7/10

[umbral crown]

Si

[umbral crown]

@swift mango check this one

[swift mango]

my bay will stop at 1077 max

[umbral crown]

Make burst lv10, Follow me on that

Your bay 18 cs?

[swift mango]

Idl which comment you wanted me to check.

[umbral crown]

The video

[swift mango]

nope, only my helmT has 18%.

[umbral crown]

My helm is avoiding cs for a while

Even bay is 18

Could be 20 o 21 once i fix the 1.98 line

[swift mango]

RH and xmaiden hit hard.

[umbral crown]

Later gonna share you this video, Nero, Moran and Rapunzel vs 5 till rapu revived Helm to be 4 vs 5

One of the funniest fights i had this season

Epp.time

[swift mango]

g9

[hybrid fox]

how do I win against his

or blanc sbs xmaiden biscuit rapunzel team3

[eager mountain]

surveys up, filling every blank with liberalio

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[swift mango]

Replace RH with siren and move to p1.

[hybrid fox]

so I switched around

[swift mango]

For scarlet just use 2rl Cindy

[hybrid fox]

WLW

[tropic summit]

i filled every blank with "dissapointed" and every lowest mark on near everything

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-sure-jan-heard-that-one-before-yeah-right-ok-gif-18084989

i'll quote the line of one of my first bosses

"don't worry, it will always get worse"

[swift mango]

Good luck

To be like above, not like below.

[hybrid fox]

same

[swift mango]

@oblique ridge

Here is the case that Poli treasure makes the enemy team become 2rl. (If Rumani survived to fire her 2nd shot)

Idk how the dude has the audacity to put her p1 when she is his only B2.

[crystal flicker]

When I thought PvP grind was over, I lost CA because Rosa didn't Crit

[primal charm]

Why scar team got vaporised

[swift mango]

Because jackal suck

[oblique ridge]

Well, it's true that Poli shield essentially doubles Poli's life. It's like you have to kill Poli twice

Though, considering how RL splash works, it seems it'll hit Poli's actual health as well as hit Poli's shield?

Weird

[wind kelp]

Well, for a glorious moment i shall revel in the fact that i'm "ahead" of everyone in SPA points enough to be 1-3(1 and 2, no dice). It won't last, but for a moment there's hope XD That is ahead as in "based on last login and points difference etc"

[primal charm]

Jackal increase dmg taken by midhara?

[hollow eagle]

huh is that a bug?

[scarlet adder]

who wins?

i feel like defender but people definetly dont agree with me 😄

[swift mango]

A small midhara bug that occasionally triggers when too much happens at the same time.

[hollow eagle]

did anyone report or ppl just don't care anymore

[wind kelp]

Questian: Moran - how much investment does she need to be "top 10 viable"? I barely have one tetra defender gear, so the prospect of farm does not make me happy 😄

[hollow eagle]

SPA? don't need Moran for that

check pin here for multitude of teams

[wind kelp]

For a moran team in any pvp.

[quick lake]

Its a feature, not a bug

[hollow eagle]

if ya still want Moran investment then it's 4/7/10

[quick lake]

Moran not a must in SPA. Can get by without her invested at all. Common SPA teams dont include a lot of Morans

[wind kelp]

Maybe a clearer question then; does moran need 4xOL gear, or does she work with any gear.

[quick lake]

Pre-sync 300 shouldnt bother with Moran imo

All pvp units ideally want 4x OL gears for the CP. But if u do want to invest Moran, just 4x basic OL is fine. No OL lines in particular. Optional atk%/Def% is nice to have

Hardcore peeps want atk% >= Def% (but super marginal minmax territory) before potential bug fixes

[swift mango]

@primal charm

[quick lake]

Happen's often enough

[swift mango]

Regular people of this chat all know about this. Idk if someone put it on feedback though.

[wind kelp]

Yeah, kinda what i was worried about. Welp, maybe i'll just throw some level 5 gear on her until i get the manu set together! Also Moran is just a def option(outside Sparena), need to start switching def teams around.

[quick lake]

Imo i dont think its a bug. I think the ticks are just happening in the background when the screen lags

[swift mango]

That's why you want to kill Midhara quickly or don't kill her at all or don't use Jackal.

[quick lake]

Better to focus on other core units imo. Like cp pad Centi, Trina, Rumani etc, Trina to 4/10/4, scar to 10/7/10 etc

[wind kelp]

I'm not a spring chicken as it were, i'm looking for new stuff to add 😄

[hollow eagle]

#1047834285287166013 is dead, devs doesn't care anymore, idk about #1047834307550519338 but probably the same unless huge unplayable issue

so ppl would have to directly report it ingame

and most ppl wouldn't be arsed to do it

[quick lake]

xMaiden, laplaceT higher returns imo, 4/10/4 for both. 4x ele/atk/cs for laplaceT, 4x cs/atk/ele for xMaiden

[wind kelp]

But also fair; cp padding more is, well, more. Skills on, i think, all mains are at 9-10s, secondaries at 7+.

Eh, i'll just go for Laplace then. Helps with tower, need to farm the gear anyway, and i need Nero anyway. Save for that later, if viable anymore.

[fathom rock]

Cries in scarletless

[hollow eagle]

literally the most relevant pvp unit

[fathom rock]

This conundrum has me considering moran nero and bay

[quick lake]

Bay deadge. Trust Nero Moran

Bay is bait

[shell hazel]

BayT

[wind kelp]

BayT 3 here. Should probably figure out a team for her for Sparena at some point 😄

Maybe next time around i'll just throw helm, bay, and frima in same team, if i manage to get laplace to t3 too. Have a full T-team 😄

[swift mango]

It is Jackal

[hollow eagle]

sure is, but is the distributed bug fixed yet?

I'm guessing not

[rich quail]

I am so dead, then

0 cs on XMaiden

[quick lake]

My xmaiden also pretty weak

[rich quail]

Mine will take prolly 3 rocks each gear to fix

Unless I give up those 2 crit rate lines

[swift mango]

Expect Rossanna to crit

[quick lake]

That's still really good

[primal charm]

What exactly is the bug tho? She deal more dmg than usual when facing jackal?

[rich quail]

Is crit rate good for XMaiden?

[shell hazel]

two black line crits 😮

[covert lintel]

Not enough time to play again now

[shell hazel]

your xmaiden is pretty good you'd have to ruin a lot to try to add CS %

[quick lake]

I still think it works!

[shell hazel]

her CS% shouldn't be insanely important

[covert lintel]

No wonder 2rl team feels slower than usual

[rich quail]

How much cs should I try to get?

[shell hazel]

it depends on what team you run because frankly adding CS may not speed you up

[swift mango]

To get these kinda line it would cost me 2000 rocks and my future newborn baby.

[shell hazel]

I'd be reluctant to reroll those lines

just run her in a team where she doesn't need CS to hit breakpoints

[umbral crown]

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

I'm so wildly jealous as Blood would say

[coarse solstice]

hand over the crit lines

[covert lintel]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kanojo-okarishimasu-bye-anime-sumi-gif-4155356681785547924

suddenly craving icecream @eager mountain

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

so it's basically a triple banner/unit squad thing?

kind of what I assumed, need all 3

[tropic summit]

this is what i was saying a few days ago

they're getting very comfy milking their community and the community keeps buying

start with 1 banner
2 concurrent noone bats an eye?
aye let's go with 3

[coarse solstice]

Definitely put it in my survey that having too much content at once makes the game feel tedious. FoMo can only get you so far

[crystal flicker]

That's like the essence of CA, Crit gacha

[raven plover]

perma taunt

[coarse solstice]

perma taunt has some interesting sac team ideas

[quick lake]

vesti pvp

possible xmaiden burst gen, good AOE nuking possibly

[placid bloom]

Vesti 0 burst gen for 2s then 4 shots

[quick lake]

Oh definitely pvp meta

[placid bloom]

Unless her shot is lower burst gen than normal like Cinderella

[tropic summit]

492% multiplier is a tad low no?

[placid bloom]

[crystal flicker]

That just like stall comp tho

[covert lintel]

True dmg
Nero destroyer

[crystal flicker]

2s is roughly 1.8 RL

[placid bloom]

True dmg don’t beat Nero

[shell hazel]

watch all 4 rockets whiff 😄

[tropic summit]

wrong game sir, true damage in nikke is something else

[shell hazel]

I put in the survey too many banners

people will get burnt out trying to keep up, especially whales who feel forced to max core every unit

not something I subscribe to

[placid bloom]

Hmm even if her rocket is not nerfed burst gen, it is still probably like Cinderella landing 3 shot/s after so you take another ~1.3s to finish shooting after charging

So not reliable for fast comp

[shell hazel]

I'll pull for any pvp meta units but i'll just wishlist them in ordinary later if I can get away with it

will have to see

[hollow lagoon]

maybe part of Morgan’s kit but not Nero

[quick lake]

Assuming 1.4% burst gen (similar to Bay)

1RL = 1.4 * 5 = 7%
CS speed up (cut by half)
1.5RL = 7% + 7% = 14%
2RL = 21% burst gen

[tropic summit]

that's a lot on her own

[shell hazel]

[quick lake]

100% cs means... instant profectile?

[tropic summit]

21% would be a bit higher than xmaiden and less than rumani

[hollow lagoon]

Cinderella is 100% cs still have delays

[placid bloom]

Yes, same as Cinderella

But no cs =/= no animation

[hollow lagoon]

Prob make 3rl the easiest thing on earth but 2 rl very rough

[quick lake]

that's definitely clipRL burst gen then

MLB it is

[placid bloom]

And her no cs only lasts 3 extra shot

[signal hull]

Have you tried not being a whale?

[placid bloom]

Before reload

[hybrid fox]

[quick lake]

Maybe 28% burst gen possibly... depending on projectile speed

[tropic summit]

we haven't been fooled before right?

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll pull 1 copy of each