pvp-arena

[quartz rover]

basically I pull for new nikke then get nothing for 50 or 80 pulls then a pilgrim appears

[glad meteor]

I just pull featured banner and leave

[quartz rover]

happened on selegg for rh and srosa for harran

[glad meteor]

I got lucky when sbs got released thankfully

[quartz rover]

I take the pilgrim appearing as a consolation prize and do not continue

by the way who the hell is julia

[glad meteor]

i jus know she played violin and I needed her in missilis

[gritty ridge]

So what are the chances i make it past top 64?

[placid bloom]

very low, the entire point of group stage is to weed out people that have weaker teams

[umbral belfry]

believe in rng

[placid bloom]

maybe I am PvE main if next shuffle is crazy

[tropic summit]

burned out uh

[tropic summit]

just get good matchup orders and you can be champion

[gritty ridge]

Also new rookie team yay

Tho idk if I should go back to biscuit for the 290k cp guys

[umbral crown]

You gonna cook this season?

[scarlet adder]

this guy would crush me with cp i guess? what is the biggest cp diff you beat?

[gritty ridge]

Cp is fine but who youre bursting is not

[scarlet adder]

hmmm why not? cindy is good

ahh wait

[gritty ridge]

Cindy is good yes

[scarlet adder]

i switched places for defense and forgot 😄

[gritty ridge]

Their team would also be better if they indom sbs instead of alice/rh

But people are silly

[scarlet adder]

then i would need to go like this hmm sbs will trash me :/ ok i give up i don't want rookie 1 that much anyway 😄

[gritty ridge]

Sbs wont even get a distributed off lmao

[scarlet adder]

but cp diff and ele adv will trash me i think

she will hit 2 iron ones and maybe before i even burst kill me

[languid wigeon]

Can someone help me build teams for PvP? Ty ik my units aren’t the best for it

[scarlet adder]

you have more pilgrims than me and i am sync 197 😄

[languid wigeon]

🫩

I’m very lucky

[gritty ridge]

@umbral crown get in here and cook

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown why is this guy giving you orders?

[gritty ridge]

Is ma

Public servant

I looked but im pulling blanks entirely with b2 situation

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/idiot-sandwich-im-an-hellskitchen-gif-19885029

[gritty ridge]

Theyre all b2 ive used, but never as main b2

[languid wigeon]

My b2 units r buns?

[gritty ridge]

No youre doing great for pve, pvp you just dont have any of the big ones that I can see

[scarlet adder]

i tried to put something but yeahh it looks...

[languid wigeon]

I have centi and SR anis @gritty ridge

[scarlet adder]

ok centi is great

[gritty ridge]

Both are good for burst gen, but anis is really only for ca cuz cant reasonably expect someone to invest an sr

[scarlet adder]

then maybe thisss but i am a noob at this

[placid bloom]

I still use Anis

[gritty ridge]

I could make a rookie team but im blanking on spa

[gritty ridge]

Thats cuz youre our special kuwon

[languid wigeon]

I can dump her on a synchro spot for now mine isn’t filled don’t have enough ssr

[scarlet adder]

at such low levels usually cp is king because no one yet invests in pvp yet really

[gritty ridge]

Ok im prepared to get called dumb by rail

[languid wigeon]

How u get this interface it’s sick

[gritty ridge]

Oh this is the mobile builder

Its in the pins

[shell hazel]

putting your only b2 at p1

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-drago-rocky-mad-boxing-gif-12496406272555168925

[gritty ridge]

In their defense they put rapu b1

[lusty gull]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/big-pile-shit-jurassic-park-gif-15182955

[gritty ridge]

I tried to keep good cp with somewhat decent speed

[shell hazel]

s.ros it out but I know it's a trap to pull for her

[quartz rover]

I've been fooled

[scarlet adder]

won't rapunzel revive? i dont have her but i tought she revives

[fathom rock]

What if rapunzel dies too?
If im attacking this i would use execution squad

[scarlet adder]

then ye you die 😄 but you have 3RL at 120 level i dont expect much from other players

[gritty ridge]

Retro what do you not use the execution squad on

[fathom rock]

Biscuit and scarlet

unless they can kill scar link before they die

@tropic summit need new defs

[fathom rock]

Actually cant execute this cuz noise will tank

[gritty ridge]

Have you tried executing harder?

[fathom rock]

Thats called a powergap

[gritty ridge]

Just 4 atk black lines on whole team

[fathom rock]

Wudahel is bro doin

[gritty ridge]

Having fun

[fathom rock]

Waiting room for rail cook me a def i go mald cc

[odd lantern]

nice waifu lineup

[tropic summit]

there's no working def and you know it

if they broke through linked siren and CS% noah you're done

[fathom rock]

Resisting urge to open cases

[tropic summit]

the next step is expensive... nero moran and soda

don't think you want that

[fathom rock]

Will that work at 25% deficit

[tropic summit]

nope

[fathom rock]

Im cooked fr

[tropic summit]

just leave pvp behind

[fathom rock]

Solo raid focus time

[tropic summit]

i'm personally considering just hanging lower CH myself, they're just brute forcing my defs

since they've unlimited gems and tries it's meaningless

[fathom rock]

My alt gonna be the pvp sr combo i dream of ig

[dire umbra]

Guys, can you suggest me a line up for Champion Arena - first time and I am traveling atm so I can find time to do my research 😦

[odd lantern]

Secret SU employee lol

encourage spending gems

[tropic summit]

ironically i did push my whales to CP pad to oblivion

i think i indirectly boosted spending

[odd lantern]

good job

you did actually. You probably contributed as much as whaling yourself haha

[broken wharf]

@echofallendown silly question, I know... 😔 But what do the percentages above the character images identify?

[gritty ridge]

Thats the speed you get to burst, and the percents are how close you are to the next breakpoint

[broken wharf]

Thank you!

[fathom rock]

Only competent f2p who used ti be in my bracket got replaced by a whale he lived by scar ross sac comp and moran nero sr15

[tropic summit]

beautiful

[gritty ridge]

Retro just come to my bracket

[odd lantern]

easy target lol

[tropic summit]

cancer itself

[odd lantern]

make them whale moar

[gritty ridge]

Btw rail do you know how much worse moran bay is compared to moran nero?

[tropic summit]

one can survive cindy AND scarlet, the other can only survive scarlet

[fathom rock]

I am probably gonna indulge in moran shenanigans

[gritty ridge]

Can't bay catch cindy if same speed?

[tropic summit]

you got it opposite

[fathom rock]

Bay can catch scar but wont she lose to cindy

Or you say nero lose to cindy

[gritty ridge]

I could've swore Ive seen it work

[fathom rock]

Cuz last time i tried cindy lost

[tropic summit]

nero moran can survive everything aside double buff scarlet

moran bay cannot survive multihit nukers, in general

specifically cindy and emilia kinda eat her alive

[gritty ridge]

So is it not worth building then?

Tho i wont encounter emi

[tropic summit]

it is worth as a direct scarlet counter

[odd lantern]

I also noticed that slotting in whaled lapT in helps with nerfing moran nero

[fathom rock]

Rail imma screw sr and go moran nero

[tropic summit]

oh no...

for once i'd recommend not investing in pvp in that case

[fathom rock]

Sunk cost

[tropic summit]

i don't want my pve pushing partner to brick himself for petty gems

[covert lintel]

Nero is ez guys
Just use huge cp sg team

[fathom rock]

Not the execution squad

[gritty ridge]

The humble indom sbs

Which i dont have

[fathom rock]

One last effort we try cook with i dom sbs

[tropic summit]

well that is strong atm because of bugs

bypasses invulnerable p1 and still lands distributed on rest

[covert lintel]

What bug

[fathom rock]

Sbs can bypass immune

[tropic summit]

jackal sbs helmt blanc centi @fathom rock

[gritty ridge]

What if it becomes intended feature

[tropic summit]

don't use SBS in p1 cuz stunnerino

[gritty ridge]

Btw how is indom rh against nero moran

[fathom rock]

Lost

[odd lantern]

Do it.

[gritty ridge]

Its an issue im gonna have to deal with in my spa

[fathom rock]

If rail tells me no he is prolly right
Thats why i have alt

[gritty ridge]

Indom rh dont work?

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't on your main

[odd lantern]

That's not my main acc either tbf lol

[oak gale]

[tropic summit]

opponent CP gaps you with scarlet blanc rh it's over

[covert lintel]

Everything is meaningless except fixed dmg and kill nero before burst

[tropic summit]

wait for le 441 boxes

then you'll make your comeback

[gritty ridge]

The humble double buff ein

[fathom rock]

Blanc to counter dr

[fathom rock]

What comeback

[tropic summit]

reset in 2 weeks

surely less whels in your bracket

surely no gemmerinos either

[fathom rock]

More*

[tropic summit]

[odd lantern]

useless

[fathom rock]

Indom emi is ez win vs moran nero on my side

[gritty ridge]

So i just have no counter to the nero moran comp in my spa. Fun

[odd lantern]

pvp is insanely expensive - i probably delayed my raid 3% by months because of pvp.

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i am gonna do execution squad for def

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh flex jackal
noise trina cindy flex flex

is probably your closest bet

[odd lantern]

trash team and kill the rest

[gritty ridge]

Rail you know im scarletless

[odd lantern]

yeah you're done

[tropic summit]

git gud at RNG

[gritty ridge]

At least i can sit in c4 now

Nobody bothers attacking me

[tropic summit]

for now*

[fathom rock]

Lucky you i camt wven sit at ch10

[tropic summit]

as of yet*

[gritty ridge]

Well we got no new big hitters so the old ones know ill just attack back in 20 min

[fathom rock]

Order?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[odd lantern]

sdoro first wdym

[gritty ridge]

Oh yeah ill be able to pull sanis soon

[fathom rock]

Any specific reason knowing this team cant burst

[umbral belfry]

retro going full pvp

[tropic summit]

he's not, fortunately i managed to stop him

[fathom rock]

Nah i backed out i forgot reshuffle addinf 2 more whel soon

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Hime if youre in same ca as me can you not match up with me pretty please

[umbral belfry]

that's out of my control

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

@umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

may rng bless u

[odd lantern]

most obvious sandbag

[gritty ridge]

I wanna get cool fram

[umbral belfry]

but if i see you in my league group and/or top 64 group

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

SG team will yolo, the other 2 are a tad more tedious at least

[covert lintel]

Wdym SR is still more expensive than pvp
You need a new unit every time SR start
you need to roll atk, ED, max ammo
You need to 101010

[tropic summit]

imagine maining pve

i main idle and pray for the best

[odd lantern]

no - you need to consider that in pvp you are competing directly with whales rather than a reward breakpoint

[gritty ridge]

Im doing the not smart thing and trying to balance both

[odd lantern]

if they ramp up CP you follow or you get owned. It's not about units, really
Can't counter someone 40 levels above you unless you have the perfect counters fully invested = super expensive

[tropic summit]

one day i know nikke will actually fix FPS issues and release fun modes, i'm sure /s

[fathom rock]

In other words me brick

[quartz rover]

Meanwhile polling rate bug since inception of pc client

[tropic summit]

what's worse, that's still undefendable so they'll just gem to get past

[covert lintel]

But level is ez and better than 100draw no rate up nikke
Buy wipeout

[obtuse dagger]

Is S.Doro good in arena specifically in shotgun team?

[tropic summit]

no, at most filler SG if you don't have the meta ones

[fathom rock]

I yolod too hard

[obtuse dagger]

im currently using this Shotgun team should replace my noir to S.Doro?

this is 2.5 RL

[tropic summit]

wows

[tropic summit]

poli in p5 to avoid feeding extra burst gen to opponent

[fathom rock]

Sdoro is less burst gen

[tropic summit]

also you want to sacc with 1 SG so it's good to have your squishier SG in p1

[odd lantern]

nice!

[obtuse dagger]

thanks for letting me know guys

[fathom rock]

Every survivor above ch7 has scar trina ross

[obtuse dagger]

[tropic summit]

almost as if they're meta

[odd lantern]

Not really. 3% is a lot easier than holding top 3 in SP arena.
A lot cheaper too, as long as you're in a big server like global or NA

[covert lintel]

Ros is meta
I said in the past she should be sss tier

[odd lantern]

people thinking raiding is hard = not trying = lower score = easier to get rewards for you

[fair bear]

[fathom rock]

Even my alt 3%

[placid bloom]

I was too lazy to open my game to check what the SR frame looks like so I used Google and I see this

[covert lintel]

Why did you compare it with the top 3?
The reward isn't the same
Top3% should be around diamond 3-4

So it's much ez pvp than sr

[odd lantern]

if you're trying in pvp - you can't tell me you're aiming for diamond 3 right?
Lowest I've heard people aiming for is diamond 1 but investing for diamond 1. Well why even do that?
At some point you realize that diminishing returns means you shouldnt invest at all in pvp

Because you get 1600 gems for doing nothing (almost), why even bother building pvp meta

[tropic summit]

dia 1 should actually be the common target

the sweaties are generally beyond ch10

as an average player with just 2 proper meta teams you should be able to dia1 consistently

[odd lantern]

yeah people who care go for diamond 1 - but they dont build anything much afaik. It's a reasonable target

[tropic summit]

mhm

SBS RH helmt with a bit of invest in jackal noah and scarlet should be enough to achieve 2 somewat working teams and last team being just campaign team

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

cindy p1... noah p1... slow teams, blanc with jackal and biscuit? what happened

what cursed kitchen did you cook in

[umbral belfry]

it's burnt

[tropic summit]

oof maybe it was an illusion, it is no longer there

[placid bloom]

I think it's better for you to copy a Scar Trina set up, a Blanc Emi set up, a Noise Noah Cinderella set up and then figure out the last 2

making 5 teams from complete scratch is a lot more effort

you'll have less to figure out for the last 2 teams

[tropic summit]

build upon working archetypes is generally a good start

then you can fill holes with the next best unit available

[wind kelp]

Yeah sorry, i don't need the attitude. I was asking for possible advice, not ridicule.

[tropic summit]

oh it wasn't ridicule don't worry

[placid bloom]

whether you have the pieces to make a working SG or not is something you'll see once you see what pieces you have left over

[umbral belfry]

we'll be happy to help

what units do you have?

[tropic summit]

post le box and ppl can advise

as kuwon mentioned, start with 3 working teams, possibly refer to the archetypes

#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

there's always ways to improve the teams by swapping stuff around but if you start with prebuilt teams it's easier to see what chars you have left over

[tropic summit]

the easiest teams to build are also the ones with jackal biscuit and helmt, splitted from each others

[umbral belfry]

in the future though (i only saw a glance of all 5 teams), the reason it's unwise to put cindy in p1 is bc when her decoy is hit, it gives opponent much more burst gen. that's why you shouldn't put her in there or in p2 due to RLs hitting it

or... poli

[tropic summit]

there's a few peculiar teams with cindy in p1 that can work although

but you need to know what you doing

[umbral belfry]

intentionally making a team faster

[tropic summit]

mhm

[fathom rock]

What if enemy intentionally slows down

[tropic summit]

in CA? it's up to the dices
in SParena? yeah you generally won't use that

[placid bloom]

they intentionally slow down and then don't meet you

[umbral belfry]

[covert lintel]

There u go
You did realize that SR is more expensive than pvp but trying not to admit it

[wind kelp]

Nah, i'll roll with it and see what happens. I don't have the units or gear to get anywhere special.

Just saying; Reply to it was absolutely demoralising as well. "That in p1? That in p1? What cursed kitchen did you cook this in?" "That is burnt!".

[tropic summit]

you shouldn't be on the internet if you can't take a bit of jokes though, no offense

noone meant anything bad toward you, just assuring

[umbral belfry]

If what I said offended you then I'll apologize for that, it wasn't my intention. I was more or less joking, but should you like some assistance/advice we'll be more than happy to give it.

if not, understandable then. best of luck in CA

[gritty ridge]

Rail bullying as usual

[umbral belfry]

speaking of ca i gotta set my teams before i forget

[bold mirage]

Enriched railtracer will cook. Im at the top of my pvp . Show box and let them help

[wind kelp]

That's what i was asking, advice, and joke away, but don't then pretend you weren't making fun of it.

[odd lantern]

This is getting silly. It takes almost no effort to get 30% in raid, even level160 commanders can get it. What investments are you talking about?

If you are fixatated on how much reward you can get easier (i.e. no effort), the answer is always DONT INVEST.
Applies in both raid and pvp.

Casualling is always the most efficient effort to gem ratio.

[fathom rock]

Oh its coinflip arena

[gritty ridge]

Can you post your box? We might be able to help you out then

[umbral belfry]

dice arena

[wind kelp]

I don't feel like getting made fun of a second time, thanks though.

[fathom rock]

What happened

[tropic summit]

Bigboi rejected

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

we hurt someone feelings for pointing out a few bad decisions

[umbral belfry]

My only advice, bc again i only really saw p1 cindy, was to at least put her in p3 to be safest. but again, best to luck to you in CA

[fathom rock]

But how did you point it out

[gritty ridge]

I didnt even do anything I just wanted to help

[tropic summit]

bigboi meanwhile takes daily abuse and he's improving

[bold mirage]

Teased me on my team I tried setting up, made adjustments and now im at top
They meant no harm

[fathom rock]

Im taking daily mald and im always behind

[tropic summit]

you taking daily passive damage in that bracket, like perma midhara kind of DoT

[gritty ridge]

I just realized I didnt use siren in my ca teams

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

because she's heavy in terms of speed to fit

[fathom rock]

Okay but that's fine

[umbral belfry]

You don't have to tbh. I mean she def helps but she's not needed

also bc working a team around her is expensive in burst gen

[gritty ridge]

Thats probably why I didnt even look at her

[umbral belfry]

my siren team was siren scar trina anis jackal, back when i used her

[fathom rock]

I just need secrets of maintaining spa rank

[gritty ridge]

I just don't have enough batteries and investments for 5 good teams

[umbral belfry]

but my siren and scar was linked so made it way easier

[tropic summit]

there's one big hidden secret, you guessed it, it is ||there's no such thing||

[gritty ridge]

So first you gotta intimidate your opponents into not even wanting to attack you

[placid bloom]

I didn't even realize but my Scar is at 32 ammo I had perfect ammo all along

[wind kelp]

Not your fault btw, i meant in general. Might post tomorrow for the morning crew, maybe make some adjustments, or just eh it all. The whole arena seems random anyway :p

[fathom rock]

How to intimidate a guy with full cored teams and sr15 dolls

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-credit-card-debit-card-debit-gif-27376677

[covert lintel]

How

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

see above 😄

[umbral belfry]

i think i bullied one of those 3 in ca before

[tropic summit]

you close pvp and mald CC instead

[fathom rock]

Dw man share and youll get advise

[tropic summit]

how do you know it is a man

[odd lantern]

you could... i guess... make friends?

[fathom rock]

Oh yea cc is now doable see ya later

[covert lintel]

Mald wipe out

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

noway i believe that.

you didn't open le boxes did you.

[umbral belfry]

11x wipe out

[fathom rock]

I didnt you have my ign id

[tropic summit]

oh you're right

[wind kelp]

Just takes a while 'cause have to wait 15 minutes for the game to load XD

[gritty ridge]

Probably, top 3 has been that way for a while

[shell hazel]

Hime I have my teams set I am hoping to get some last min clutch atk on LapT

[fathom rock]

Thats fine take your time

[tropic summit]

remember we gotta make those teams 5 minutes before CA starts

[umbral belfry]

yeah and i have a feeling i'm gonan bully someone else from your sp bracket too

[gritty ridge]

Nooo

[shell hazel]

5 minutes? that is too much time

3 minutes or less

[umbral belfry]

lap being unliked is crazy ngl 😭 what have you done to the girl

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

submit your team 5 seconds before teams lock

[fathom rock]

Maybe i should mald this instead

[umbral belfry]

mine could never

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

become the suika warrior

[odd lantern]

that's an epic score

lowest clear

[gritty ridge]

Chat do i bet on myself even if im gonna lose

[covert lintel]

Get it above 100k

[tropic summit]

bet on the winner

[tropic summit]

get those juicy boxes

[gritty ridge]

Im the winner in ny heart

[umbral belfry]

i mean you could if you're aiming for losing frame i guess

[umbral belfry]

sir where is your ele dmg

[tropic summit]

reality is harsh at times

[placid bloom]

you have to make it out of groups first, then you can worry about betting yourself

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-shelves-john-travolta-confused-where-huh-gif-16456244

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

True

[fathom rock]

I made it to like top 32 then i faced frankyub

[shell hazel]

I'm doing 2 rocks a go rolling on the gloves with cs locked hoping for ele and atk

[umbral belfry]

believe

[covert lintel]

Losing frame mean you will lose 30 credit box
I really don't recommend that as i really need credit

[tropic summit]

we all do 💳

[fathom rock]

Thats only 15 wipeouts

[tropic summit]

oh maybe someone in here doesn't

[umbral belfry]

that's why i got my losing frame out the way quick

[covert lintel]

Not that credit

[shell hazel]

I can maybe do it 2 or 3 times before CA lock in lol 😦

I failed 3 times already

one good atk roll all I need for now

[umbral belfry]

believe in lap hippo

[wind kelp]

There y'all go, have fun building, anything there is atleast semi built, CP order, and no resources to build anything else, so cook with the incredients you got 😉

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge unleash your knowledge, it is time to shine

[fathom rock]

Whoa treasure bay this should be good

[shell hazel]

hero!

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Idek what emi does

[umbral belfry]

is this everyone you have?

[tropic summit]

bigboi enters the kitchen

[shell hazel]

she is like

[tropic summit]

use her with noah or with indom

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-rezero-rambling-silly-gif-12258895905377246546

[unique mountain]

[gritty ridge]

Okey dokey

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[umbral belfry]

staple team is emi + blanc + rh but i'm not 100% sure if emi needs to be max invest to really go off

[wind kelp]

As mentioned, everyone that's in any condition to be in arena.

[umbral belfry]

but it would make sense for that

[shell hazel]

emi can work as a general high burst gen battery as well

[umbral belfry]

yeah either or

bigboi's time to cook again

[shell hazel]

we cooked the triple threat

you remember Rail? 😄

[tropic summit]

good god.

[wind kelp]

And yeah, i did get a bit touchy at earlier response, but also a bad day and 0 tolerance for "internet attitude". Anyway, have fun in the kitchen, gonna check in in the morning 😄

[umbral belfry]

It's all good buddy. Sorry again, didn't mean to offend

[wind kelp]

Oh and one more note; no need to play safe, i'm not aiming to win anything, so go wild if you like.

[signal hull]

Hehe, "have fun in the kitchen", I think he means you, Hime.

[tropic summit]

oh you don't want bigboi to go too wild though

[umbral belfry]

the good ending

[tropic summit]

lmao what a mad lad

[umbral belfry]

[odd lantern]

Everyone is so wholesome today.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-the-office-yeah-ok-sure-gif-15058188

[bold mirage]

My very first time in here I was teased but just like you, they asked for box and made me some gourmet teams

[signal hull]

Nope.

[bold mirage]

Nah it was funny for me lol

[shell hazel]

the triple threat complete edition @umbral belfry @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

last i checked this was #pvp-arena channel not emotional support channel

[covert lintel]

Yes you are
I never get a CA team cook from you

[tropic summit]

you speak almost as if you're uncapable of cooking your own teams

[umbral belfry]

i have a feeling that jackal should go in p1 in case emi gets siren'd

[bold mirage]

To me, it just showed how much pvp exp yall had that just at a glance u were like, it's not optimal. And that's why I came here in first place

[shell hazel]

it can work but even so... we need Emi 😄

[umbral belfry]

emi for us when

[shell hazel]

Railtracer holding her hostage

[tropic summit]

now make everyone 11%CS and blanc is even linked, obviously noise taunt priority

[umbral belfry]

but rail doesn't even have emi either

[fathom rock]

Scar siren trina centi jackal
Noise noah cindy helmT emilia, assuming noise less cs than noah if not lmk
Bay biscuit xmaid mana rumani

@tropic summit check those

[signal hull]

Emilia rerun when?

[tropic summit]

wait those are yours or theirs?

[shell hazel]

right let's go

[tropic summit]

oh nvm there's a scarlet

[umbral belfry]

retro cooking

[fathom rock]

For him you think i have scar?

[covert lintel]

Yeah i'm incapable of cooking my own team
I always lost most of the time

[fathom rock]

Unknown

[tropic summit]

i call BS it's because you're purposedly making your teams weak

[placid bloom]

if they have Mermaid it won't matter where Emi is I think, because everyone will wipe to AoE and Emi will get stunned by 2nd Siren stun before she can shoot

[tropic summit]

they wanted CA teams tho

[umbral belfry]

i feel like using both helm + emi on the same team is overloaded on burst gen but that's just me

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Not spa?
Ye i cant cook ca mb

[shell hazel]

cindy can 2rl with just helm I showed it above

[tropic summit]

aye

[shell hazel]

emi on t3 is best for more speed

[umbral belfry]

yeah

[tropic summit]

but don't worry, bigboi is on the job

[shell hazel]

even if you don't burst and just use her as a battery

[fast jetty]

i've been having too much problem attacking this blanc-helm-redhood-cindy-jackal team...
so what's the deal? if i run scarlet it will be sniped
maybe run some noah team with cindy burst?
(dont have emi/rumami)

[covert lintel]

No
I want to win

[umbral belfry]

wait how is it a wipe? if siren stuns emi, that means xmaid will burst instead. which will still def burst but won't be an aoe wipe

[tropic summit]

you silly there's no win, there's only suffering

[shell hazel]

you could run jackal | emi | etc

[tropic summit]

no feed team on 2RL will do the job

[fathom rock]

What if you run 2rl scar with siren

[umbral belfry]

[fast jetty]

also lost, , thatwas like.. 3 weeks ago

maybe i never learnt wtf

[fast jetty]

this works

[shell hazel]

you ran this and won though? 😄

[fast jetty]

no feed means no shotgun?

[fathom rock]

Sg/smg/mg

[tropic summit]

essentially RL or SR team, although what hippo suggested above seems to work out of stalling

[umbral belfry]

@clear folio i see you

[gritty ridge]

Rail i got stuck

I think i put myself in a corner

[shell hazel]

my closest spa campaign competitor is stuck at 27-18 hard

[signal hull]

"Stepbrother"-kind of stuck?

[fathom rock]

My closest one is in ch19 (im in ch31 cc)

[tropic summit]

make scarlet 90% to 2RL
cindy team either 2RL or 2.5RL, 3RL is kinda meh
indom emi can be 3RL as long as it's biscuit locked

[shell hazel]

wait really? 😄

[odd lantern]

These 4 man teams are 🔥

[shell hazel]

I have several who are in the 20's

[fathom rock]

Yes they still above my by 40 lvl

[gritty ridge]

I was thinking bisc for emi, glad I was on right track

[shell hazel]

guy in 27, guy in 26, some in 21-24

[tropic summit]

keep in mind 4 strong teams 1 fodder is better than 5 weaker teams

[shell hazel]

I think all my top 10 are further than 20

[wind kelp]

Hey, it's still probably better than what i had 😄

[umbral belfry]

speaking of which, i gotta go back to malding in 27 hard but lazy

[tropic summit]

do it

[gritty ridge]

Wait am I making ca team?

[shell hazel]

you've basically just re-cooked the triple threat I linked 😄
#pvp-arena message

[fathom rock]

Sorry man i miss half the pvp roster and only made it to ca once no shot i can give you something good

[umbral belfry]

[fast jetty]

thoughts on my CA cooking?

No rumani/emi.
Thoughts: maybe will build moran/nero/OG soda./use that product 23 for burst gen / etc?

(viper/tove no treasure/built yet)

[tropic summit]

yes? that's what they asked originally

[shell hazel]

we put it into the microwave after cooking it

[gritty ridge]

Oh, I didnt see the original post

Thats fine

[tropic summit]

tove single B1 in p1, daring today are we

[shell hazel]

scar needs to be 2RL

[wind kelp]

Oh tw Rail, on your question of "what cursed kitchen i cooked the teams in", it was just copy/paste from my SPA teams XD

[tropic summit]

oh no, then there's another problem you need to fix

probably best starting fixing SParena, can then work on CA

[fathom rock]

Why tove tho and what is peper gonna do with indom

[fast jetty]

ok let me see how i can make it... if i make scar 2RL idk if i can have a 3rd competent team

[wind kelp]

Oh don't worry, the teams aren't like that anymore, they were custom built for certain fights.

[shell hazel]

think your jackal is a bit wasted on cindy comp as you can't really feed it to another tier

[umbral belfry]

no sir no sir. tove in pvp is pretty underwhelming, and even then you have her in p1. you're better off doing 5 sg bc i'm going to assume you don't have rosa built

• moran sanis bisc xmaid is a common sanis team iirc
• scar w/o jackal wants to be natural 2rl

your t4 and t5 could use some work, pref cindy with noah for either 2rl or 2.5rl

but also i see my goat pascal

[fast jetty]

lv1 skill + 0OL pascal!

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[fathom rock]

Hmm interesting cindy comp and 3rl scad

[gritty ridge]

@wind kelp can I see the rest of your box? CA means I can use batteries with no invest

[fast jetty]

the 3RL scar and 3RL cindy worked for me to retake top 2 in SP arena

[umbral belfry]

i fear that won't survive in ca

[shell hazel]

3rl scar loses to 2rl scar though

[umbral belfry]

okay lunch time gl

[fathom rock]

Im jealous of your bracket man

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/food-coma-food-eat-starving-kirby-gif-4698182

[tropic summit]

the game intended from the start for you to mald in pve AND pvp

[placid bloom]

I mean if they are on something like 2RL Scar Mermaid and you have p1 Jackal Emi Blanc, everyone except Emi will wipe to the Scar nuke and 2nd stun will be before Emi can fire her nuke anyway. Mermaid stun is every 3.267 seconds and 2RL B3 casts at 4.0s, so you will land second stun at 6.534s to Emilia's 7s+ nuke time

[wind kelp]

Aaa....hold on....i think i have an older shot of "everyone"(mostly), i don't want to launch the game again 😄 This one is...i think a month old?

[placid bloom]

maybe there is enough time for Emi to clean up with autos if she's really strong, but there should only be like 3 seconds of indom remaining in that case

[tropic summit]

emi autos on double buff kinda hurt

[placid bloom]

and she has to charge every shot

[tropic summit]

especially with good CS%

@gritty ridge you alive?

[shell hazel]

we killed him

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im cooking

[tropic summit]

oh he breathes

[shell hazel]

diagnosis: dead

[gritty ridge]

Im doing this all on mobile so I have to switch tabs alot

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

Emi need ammo above 12 to avoid siren cook

[shell hazel]

that is cursed

[tropic summit]

you talking from experience?

[shell hazel]

I need emi to begin with

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

I have learned to never emi indom against siren just now

[tropic summit]

oof.

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message

[fathom rock]

Nero moran helmT emi siren counter?

[shell hazel]

you have emi but your brackets aren't past chapter 20 hard? or is this an alt?

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Dont tell me 2rl scar

[tropic summit]

2RL sc-

[shell hazel]

ar

[tropic summit]

et

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

wow but siren in a nero moran team with CP advantage is kinda bully

[gritty ridge]

This is what I came up with

[tropic summit]

it's like specifically tailored anti-retro

[tropic summit]

passing grade

give quantum to rumani, emi, centi

[shell hazel]

I'd quant jackal/trina/maybe xmaiden for the 2RL

[gritty ridge]

I just don't know cube situation

[shell hazel]

damn yeah the emi team is close to more speed as well

[placid bloom]

if they have 26% cs Helm and Emi, they can cast Nero B2 before you can cast Scar B3

[shell hazel]

wait, you assumed no CS on emi at all

[tropic summit]

oh nvm it won't make it

[shell hazel]

her cs makes a big difference

[gritty ridge]

I didnt assume any non baseline stats

[fathom rock]

You telling me it isnt originally 2.5rl or so?

[shell hazel]

but for emi in particular put CS on her, it's her main point

[tropic summit]

who has 26% on hel- oh.

[gritty ridge]

I dont know what they have so I assumed the worste

[covert lintel]

Is there someone 4 blacky cs line on them?

[fathom rock]

Keripo!

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

if you bump her cs she gets to 2RL with no quants

[gritty ridge]

Emi needs 25%

[shell hazel]

does she get some from skills?

[wind kelp]

On cubes; 8 on reload speed/amount, 8 on quantum, 6 on charge speed, rest at 5.

[shell hazel]

boost temperance cube some for pvp next I guess btw

[gritty ridge]

Oh cool

[signal hull]

No. You absolutely have to roll black lines on every item, every CS line, or brick.
Just kidding, idk.

[gritty ridge]

You have bay p1 btw, if you invest moran you can have the budget stall team

[shell hazel]

I say that becuase no one else has 25% options

so I have to assume she has some way to get a bonus to CS

[wind kelp]

Moran is definetaly on the list after being burnt by her 😄

[gritty ridge]

13% buff from skill 1

[shell hazel]

right so you only need like 12% on gear?

[placid bloom]

seem even 18% Helm + Emi will cast Nero B2 before Scar B3

[shell hazel]

emi is a game changer for speed shenanigans

[placid bloom]

but I guess I should see how much cs Scar team need to beat it

nvm I forgot Jackal link

double SMG too much feed

[covert lintel]

Is this for ca?

[wind kelp]

Anyway, have to redo teams in the morning(so if anyone wants to chime in, great!), but just wanted to say what this channel is like(in best way possible):

[placid bloom]

just general matchup

[gritty ridge]

If you have enough cs lines on emi you can have much safer emi indom and safer scar jack

5% feed is much more reasonable than 10%

[fathom rock]

What if you dont get hit 20 times

[gritty ridge]

Id personally like bay on scarjack but then youd lose trina buff

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

Thats more for spa defense anyway

[gritty ridge]

Prevents helm nuking

[covert lintel]

In CA that nero moran team is gachaing their life on 30% counter
And below sr 15 will most likely die

[shell hazel]

rapu SR-10 but the rest of mine are SR-15 😄

[placid bloom]

I mean it will lose anyway even without counter

[gritty ridge]

Alright I made my cook, ill let yall have fun in here

[fathom rock]

Did yall ping the guy for the cook tho

[gritty ridge]

No

Im waiting to see if one of yall makes something better

[fathom rock]

I resign from ca teams

[unique mountain]

[wild hemlock]

Is Xanne still fine for shotgun teams or should I use someone else

[shell hazel]

I had no idea there was a julia pass skin coming

[tropic summit]

blanc/xanne/naga/anchor/mari/poli

situational

want extra tanky SG with added atk buff? poli (treasure adds minimal indom)
want extra burst dmg? mari
want extra SG pressure with minor healing? naga
want revive for your sacc? xanne
want indom? blanc
want extra HP + atk buff? anchor

bayT is also an option if you're expecting a single hit nuker

[wild hemlock]

Oh I was thinking more of like the standard CA team
soda, drake, xanne, ros, noir

[tropic summit]

ye that's expecting to revive soda

[wild hemlock]

like if it's worth replacing/investing in something else for xanne

[tropic summit]

it's situational on what you face

there's no almighty var

[wild hemlock]

hm yeah downside is my bsoda is a sac and is like ininvested so bursting with her is kinda ehh

so maybe i should swap...

[tropic summit]

against a glass cannon enemy? stall indom or revive may outtrade for example

[tropic summit]

well if you plan to use xanne assume your p1 dies and revives

you want your p1 to be then the one you want to burst with

[wild hemlock]

yeah what s like the min invest for bsoda then

casue mine is pretty uninvested

would u want lvl 10 burst

[tropic summit]

7/10/10, atk 40%

[wild hemlock]

ah god

[tropic summit]

ideally some ele atk%

if you're investing in her solely for CA, then don't

[wild hemlock]

yeah it's just for ca

[tropic summit]

flex mode isn't worth investing when you could go for SR or UR or pve in general

although if your personal objective is getting better odds in CA, then it could help

[wild hemlock]

I either need to replace xanne with something or invest in bsoda

i could just use naga or something i guess

[tropic summit]

budget wise that's not a bad option

[wild hemlock]

feel like for rng CA xanne is better

[tropic summit]

xanne won't be particularly useful anymore in SParena or CA tbh

[umbral belfry]

believe in the (p5) poliT way

[tropic summit]

she's situational at best

[wild hemlock]

rly i feel like the heal revive in shotgun comp is pretty good

[shell hazel]

0 rocks from kraken who stole my rocks?

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-austin-vince-mc-mahon-wwe-gif-7334970

[shell hazel]

was it you Rail?

it was you Hime!

anyway I don't need more than 1 roll surely?

I mean I guess it's better than what I had lol

[umbral belfry]

kiss your linked dreams of lap goodbye sucker

[shell hazel]

nope 3 rolls and no atk

[tropic summit]

against a biscuit locked team you're dead regardless
against 2RL stall team where RNG is not on your side or hitting a moran you're dead regardless

i still can't find it valuable investing in xanne at this point in the game and specifically for a situational matchup with SG team

but you do what you do

[shell hazel]

6 rolls (12 rocks so far) not seen atk on line 1 or 2 😦

[umbral belfry]

that'll teach you to not have high atk lap

[shell hazel]

I have 0 atk lap because you stole my rocks Hime! 😦

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-doro-gif-1027805425862452031

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-time-chamber-close-door-smirk-dragon-ball-gif-16616610

[shell hazel]

and now it's raining outside you both ruining my day 😦

[tropic summit]

btw china has discovered the usage of siren and CS% on noah

the end is approaching

somehow i'm still 3rd but i don't think it's gonna last with their unpunished attempts everyday

[umbral belfry]

wasn't that already solved

[tropic summit]

in my bracket they still learnin'

[wild hemlock]

Naga it is for now then...

[umbral belfry]

ohhh that's what you meant. so late 😭

[tropic summit]

once they find out you only need 2 teams to win attack it's bayover

[gritty ridge]

Anyone have a replay of emi indom? I wanna see how it works

[shell hazel]

just keep em on their toes 😄

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

the next step is expensive

i think i'll just skip CA at that point

[shell hazel]

moran nero?

[tropic summit]

and linked sora

[shell hazel]

I did it you def can. Hime did it

[tropic summit]

ye but i don't wanna

[shell hazel]

you gotta invest in the (non-horse) girls

[tropic summit]

because then they'll copy that aswell

[shell hazel]

well keep em busy 😄

[tropic summit]

their defense is my own copy

[shell hazel]

they can't keep up if you can evolve the teams

[gritty ridge]

So emi is like sbs but hits harder?

[tropic summit]

there's a limit hippo

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[shell hazel]

there is no limit

it's why it's a gacha that doesn't end

[tropic summit]

if only...

maybe one day you'll face it too to understand

[shell hazel]

I don't doubt I'll get some whales in sometime

[tropic summit]

not really the whales

but ppl on same invest that actually know what they doing

but they happen to be also gemmers and unpunished by lower bracket

meaning they regularly attack 2-3 teams a day

at some point they'll just brute force by throwing anything

and once that def is revealed, they get better and learn

= you win battles, but lose the war

[shell hazel]

sure but can they remember what wins? cycle back to original def 😄

[tropic summit]

they do

[shell hazel]

they AI confirmed

[tropic summit]

these are chinese lads hippo, they're sweaty

they'll take videos and screenshots and just re-run winning teams

[shell hazel]

we could invade china irl?

[tropic summit]

no leave em there

[shell hazel]

😄

[tropic summit]

although some chinese girls are really pretty

i'll take that instead

[shell hazel]

we can invade and steal some

oh nice

[spare nimbus]

is it worth it to 10 10 10 bay?

[tropic summit]

[signal hull]

I swear HelmT is only so good because she was designed by the SU President's wife. Wish she was behind Bay as well.

[tropic summit]

i'd rather be behind helm

[dim sapphire]

any difference 17% cs vs 19% cs on helm

[umbral belfry]

nice number

[tropic summit]

you can check frames here

https://nikke.work/

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lewd-trinity-seven-anime-sign-gif-7407062

[shell hazel]

there is a diff yes

Hime you sending PoliT to this CA right?

[umbral belfry]

yup

[shell hazel]

curious to see how she does 🙂

[umbral belfry]

believe in 20 cs poli

[shell hazel]

I believe

[umbral belfry]

[scarlet adder]

guy plays without B1 2.5 RL xD

[signal hull]

I hope she does exceptionally bad, so I didn't have to level her as well T_T Let me focus on PVE!

[tropic summit]

there's a siren in p6

[scarlet adder]

and look at this SR counter 😄

[quartz rover]

which of these are good in pvp?

[scarlet adder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/htmlview

[quartz rover]

oh nice

[tropic summit]

you can build with these (they're in order of invest based on your box)

rh
rrh
siren
alice
crown
blanc
naga
drake
trina
helmt
ein
sbs
raven
dkw
moran
centi
rosanna
jackal
biscuit
noir

[quartz rover]

no volume?

or was it noise

[tropic summit]

ye noise is pretty high in tier

good unit for cindy or for damage reduction stacking

[quartz rover]

noiseless 🙁

[spare nimbus]

i have her at 4 4 4 rn is that enough

[quartz rover]

cindyless

[tropic summit]

for serving the purpose of anti single hit nuke yes

[spare nimbus]

ok

[signal hull]

Hmm... If a certain guy in a bracket is such a whale, he gets waaaaaaaay huge level and CP difference from others, like we're talking 50+ levels, is there a chance he'd be sent to another bracket to play with his fellow whales?

[tropic summit]

haha.

no.

i'm stuck with a leviathan for 2 rotations already

[gritty ridge]

Rail can I invest t.bay to 10 4 4

For my slightly worse stall team

[scarlet adder]

what do you think?

[oak gale]

https://tenor.com/view/malding-angry-angela-fuming-rn-gif-19745809

[scarlet adder]

ok couldn't wait and just went with it and won

why naga is not here xD

[shell hazel]

that is true she does seem to be missing

[scarlet adder]

ok now she is wtf

[shell hazel]

weird...

no I still don't see her lol

[scarlet adder]

siren stun is to 286F?

i guess F are frames, stun is 3 seconds and in pvp it is 30fps

[shell hazel]

yeah

that is a constant as well as I understand it can't change

[scarlet adder]

does tia in his team helps me win?

[tropic summit]

yes, it's insane

and out of all those defenses only 1 remains unbeaten

[oak gale]

oh boy

[tropic summit]

add to the fact that if i run powerful defenses i give away tips

so i've gotta also tone them down but strong enough to actually work

true pain

[signal hull]

Gods... What is this now...?

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-going-on-confused-renata-sorrah-nazarétedesco-thinking-gif-15969280

I still can't understand what linking is and these nagas have already created some new rocket-surgery level crap...

[placid bloom]

click the gray icon on Jackal to set links. Attacker will most likely have linked Alice + Helm, defender will be Rapi + Helm. So attack gets feed, defender doesn't.

that will change the team speeds

or maybe doesn't matter because attacker Jackal p1 anyway

[scarlet adder]

woahhh thanks 😮

[placid bloom]

and defender not getting feed

[scarlet adder]

now he very dead

[wild drum]

someone help please

[limber patrol]

will this work in champion arena?

idk how fast it would burst

[scarlet adder]

now i wonder can i beat this scarlet that doesn't have b1 😄 i know siren will feed her skill but like i need CP :[

should i be scared of this scarlet?

[scarlet adder]

probably never 😄

[limber patrol]

P1 scarlet can't survive without jackal.
and scarlet can't kill the team without burst

that team is probably a team with high combat power only

[scarlet adder]

just looking it looks like less than 4RL for me

[limber patrol]

jackal will destroy them, but this is like the 5th team, I had no more burst gen

[wind kelp]

Ofcourse after i set up the CA teams and then set up stuff back in palce for SPA, this happens XD Nope, can't be bothered to redo stuff anymore, is what is 😄

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

[gritty ridge]

I already used her dw

[limber patrol]

so I want to know how much burst gen it will have.

• it will stun an enemy

also consider Rosanna's burst gen when someone dies, because someone will die

[wind kelp]

Yeah, just an extra core, just more stats. Thanks btw, i set up stuff and we'll see how it goes! I'm usually against 2-3 whales sooo....might be a lost cause here at this point of career.

[scarlet adder]

hmmm

even with rosanna this is ass

[gritty ridge]

Wait, they cant burst

Make scarlet die

[scarlet adder]

i will maybe attack them another time, one guy bothers me and i prefer to keep one try for today

[gritty ridge]

You can just use defender p1 with biscuit and you win

[limber patrol]

I don't think that tool works for this

[scarlet adder]

hmmm you might be right what they changed for CA ?

is it 60 fps?

i don't remember

[limber patrol]

Siren alone has 37% burst gen when they fire 400 bullets, this is full MG...
Rosanna has another 30% when someone dies.

I will level up Rosanna's a little more once I do sim room

[scarlet adder]

but is CA 30 or 60 fps

i think if 30 i would not count on siren getting that burst

[gritty ridge]

Don't run siren 4 mg in ca please

[limber patrol]

it has to be this way

[gritty ridge]

Why

You not have 3 good teams+sg team?

[limber patrol]

I don't have shotgun cope

[gritty ridge]

You dont have 5 sg units?

[limber patrol]

shotgun cope is incomplete, I don't expect it to win even with full clip shotgun

[gritty ridge]

Those are some interesting teams

You cook yourself?

[limber patrol]

yeah I cook my food. Even my pizzas (unless I don't have a lot of time).

[gritty ridge]

Team 2 can immediately improved by putting scar in p2

[signal hull]

Excuse me, excuse me, orange name coming through....

[limber patrol]

I literally can't use anything else as a team

[limber patrol]

I think I heard there's combat power deficit, so it will kill the team to have more links...

[gritty ridge]

Watchu need

[gritty ridge]

No deficit

[signal hull]

Blue name color please.

[scarlet adder]

jackal shouldn't be like p5? with all wind people attacking p1?

[gritty ridge]

Jackal p1 for guaranteed link gen, scar p2 for more, rh p3 for even more

[limber patrol]

there's nothing else I can place on p1.
And Scar p1 could get stunned by Siren

[gritty ridge]

Unless you have low ammo

[wicked horizon]

I've a question.
The 3rd team (1st image) wins, but the 1st team (2nd image) does not, because Scarlet survives long enough to kill everyone.
Any ideas?

[gritty ridge]

Drop cindy for another battery

[wicked horizon]

I'm already at 2RL

[gritty ridge]

Then burst helm

Youll kill jackal, rh, and scar

Theyre only 3rl

[limber patrol]

do you have a video?
I never seen that type of team for scarlet

[wicked horizon]

No video.
It's nothing special, I burst and Blanc bursts before Scarlet dies to Cindy.

They might be 2.5RL, who knows.

[gritty ridge]

Its scar indom, it works pretty good on defense if you have 2rl

But yeah try helm b3

[wicked horizon]

And who as the last unit? 🤔

[gritty ridge]

Anybody that doesn't feed tbh

[wicked horizon]

I don't want to feed Jackal.
Maybe DKW

Well, more damage wouldn't hurt, y'know.

But RRH, Liter, Mermaid... all fast-firing.

[limber patrol]

well, if you use Moran, I think it will survive

[gritty ridge]

Feed

We want helm to kill before blanc bursts

[tropic summit]

don't use rumani
you want both biscuit s2 stacks on noah

[gritty ridge]

Rail I was helping for once

[wicked horizon]

But he doesn't have a SG? Who would hit Rumani?

[tropic summit]

either of the above will work

[tropic summit]

rumani taunts after bursting

[limber patrol]

rumani has taunt

[wicked horizon]

But she's also invulnerable?

[tropic summit]

well you could read

[wicked horizon]

I don't quite get the point, but sure.

[gritty ridge]

Noah will hold down all dmg while fully invul

[limber patrol]

Noah will survive longer and taunt all enemies so she will debuff them even more

[tropic summit]

noah drops to HP threshold, 1st biscuit stack, invulnerable
noah casts B2, invulnerable
noah exit shield, gets 2nd biscuit stack, invulnerable

[limber patrol]

@grand plaza can this work against non jackal teams?

Champion arena 5th team...

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

that's very darn slow sir

[limber patrol]

how much burst gen?

[gritty ridge]

0

Doa

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

use le tool https://nikke-deck.web.app/

before your cooking goes boom

https://tenor.com/view/cuisine-explosion-cooking-failed-will-smith-gif-12098813

[limber patrol]

I don't think that one helps with this one

[tropic summit]

que?

[limber patrol]

no tener en cuenta el kit

[gritty ridge]

Idk where to go from here

Idk how roseanna works

[limber patrol]

huge burst gen when a nikke dies

let me test it real quick

[tropic summit]

you get 33% ish every nikke death

means you need mmast and crown to die, then you're B2less

[limber patrol]

anchor?

[tropic summit]

who the heck is gonna be your B2

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, that worked.
I suppose Cinderella is too slow against any form of invulnerability. even at 1RL faster.

[limber patrol]

my rosanna is lvl 1, I think she's dead

[gritty ridge]

Something like this?

[tropic summit]

you just noticed

[tropic summit]

midhara needs time to apply DoT

that team is a glass cannon

it's like putting fire with water

[gritty ridge]

Whats a sac mihara template then?

[tropic summit]

something that buys you time, indom and stall

[limber patrol]

lmao it works

[tropic summit]

yeah it killed biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Im confused, I want mihara to die for maiden to burst, but also to live long enough to apply dot

[tropic summit]

no.

you want your team to live while DoT is going on

[gritty ridge]

Im confused now

Extra

[tropic summit]

mihara dies, DoT begins
if your team dies right after, DoT doesn't do crap

glass cannon + midhara = DoT doesn't do a thing in time

comprende?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

I thought you were saying I dont want mihara to die til she bursts

So then like this, 3rl

[limber patrol]

I improved the team .
it's so close to killing this 3rl anis team

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[limber patrol]

could this work better now that I know they burst?

[tropic summit]

you've gotta be trolling

[limber patrol]

it's my training arc for champion arena

[gritty ridge]

With this and me being here is gonna give rail an aneurysm

[tropic summit]

don't worry i'm off to animu and bed anyway, it's past midnight here and gotta work then finally weekend awaits

[limber patrol]

what are the common teams for Rosanna?

[gritty ridge]

Sg

[gritty ridge]

Thx for linking me the clip then, I was thinking of mihara dot being more of an extra thing rather than the main dmg

[shell hazel]

RH feels kind of pointless here she not burstin

[raven cairn]

is someone here able to help with ca teams?

[shell hazel]

bigboi you got a new order 😄

[limber patrol]

I shared the list of the remaining characters right below

[gritty ridge]

As long as you check my work

[shell hazel]

I can do that but I'm not doing full cooks atm

[gritty ridge]

I just need someone to warn people if im sending them to their doom

[shell hazel]

how much ammo do you have on scar?

you could run the gauntlet of ignoring siren possibility for a RH buff potential re-order

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i can cook you something

[shell hazel]

re-arrange scar to Scarlet | Trina | RH | Centi | Jackal

[limber patrol]

idk, never use her outside of arena

[shell hazel]

if Scar has less than 60%+ ammo or so you're good

[raven cairn]

ight gimme a sec to post my nikkes

[limber patrol]

Scarlet could get stunned.

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[limber patrol]

1 blue line
68%
60%
ammo.

[shell hazel]

damn

can you roll it away ? 😄

[limber patrol]

no

[shell hazel]

blue line will always put you at risk of scar stun

even if it's the only one you have

[gritty ridge]

Big sync account

[shell hazel]

well you have two choices really, run a gimped scarlet team just in case you run into siren, or run a better version but it's siren weak

or if your ros is built run a ros version

[limber patrol]

I think she's one shotting the enemy anyways

so I'm not risking it for siren

I have like ~~40%~~30% atk on her (just double check)
and some elemental lines but those probably don't help at all

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/colors-votaçoes-gif-23563990

[limber patrol]

I will be back when this team wins a battle.

[gritty ridge]

Hippo ive got my idea for 1st 4 teams with sbs indom, scar trina, cindy noah, rose sg, what should I do for 5th?

[olive zephyr]

how does pvp targetting wokr? does it always target burst 1 ?

[shell hazel]

cope team is likely if you used all your good units

or you send in solo crow as a message

[gritty ridge]

Ill see if I can do cope stall team for t5

[oak gale]

@shell hazel rail sitting and trying to find the most optimal team for pvp
meanwhile my ass in dinner dash at 2 am

[shell hazel]

no rail has gone to sleep

[oak gale]

even during sleep that man thinks of pvp

im too lazy to edit my pvp team from last time im just leaving it like that

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm basically doing scar/cindy/indom/stall/sg, think most people at the top of my CA are running these now

[tropic summit]

it can be either, you can consider it as negating sustain or adding extra damage to whole enemy team

[oak gale]

i mean if it works it works , what i just do is defender with biscut , 2rl with trina scarlet , etc..

[tropic summit]

ye about to, le phone distracting me

[oak gale]

I TOLD U HES THINKING OF PVP MID SLEEP

[tropic summit]

no i suddenly had an urge of

[gritty ridge]

Is this usable?

[tropic summit]

[oak gale]

https://tenor.com/view/died-of-cringe-anime-cringe-dies-from-cringe-aharen-san-wa-hakarenai-gif-8233879981104552173

[gritty ridge]

Not really used to indom cooking

[umbral belfry]

[oak gale]

phew i thought hes going after me

[keen vapor]

I saw you on medbay

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-anime-girl-hitori-gotou-dying-inside-gif-27031928

[shell hazel]

still counts as pvp rail

[tropic summit]

lies i was doing upload

[shell hazel]

blanc p1 or sbs p1 (risky lol)

[keen vapor]

IMPOSTER

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

otherwise you just indom rumani 😄

[oak gale]

sned this guy to the coal mines and make his testicles explode

hes too much invested in pvp

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

[gritty ridge]

This is what ive got atm

[tropic summit]

rosanna looking lonely

[shell hazel]

team 4 has only 1 unit but I believe ros can do it

[gritty ridge]

She'll have some sg soon, dont worry

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel wait... what if you run only rosanna and cindy team?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-rosanna-nikke-goddess-of-victory-mafia-boss-gif-2757100756062724309

[tropic summit]

who get targeted and why

[oak gale]

think about it
rosanna camoflauge
they cant hit what they cant see

[shell hazel]

I have considered such but I wondered what happens if no one has direct target enabled

[tropic summit]

you know what to do

[shell hazel]

gem to find out

[tropic summit]

always.

[shell hazel]

wait no

someone got any tries left? I used mine already 😄

[tropic summit]

FOR SCIENCE

I CANNOT SLEEP IF WE DON'T FIND OUT

[oak gale]

sience

[shell hazel]

then you gem 😛

[oak gale]

go to sleep rail , too much pvp for today

[tropic summit]

i'm poor and i live under a bridge

[shell hazel]

that sounds like a troll to me

[tropic summit]

ork sounds

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-lord-of-the-rings-troll-face-confused-gif-10216460024255841707

[gritty ridge]

Where im at,

[shell hazel]

OK ros is no longer lonely

[gritty ridge]

I cant use viper

Is t1 too slow to work?

[oak gale]