pvp-arena

[coarse lake]

Also makes it easier to chip Cindy for a soda nuke

[gritty ridge]

Wouldn't they have to delay my burst for helm to hit me before Noah invul?

My bracket isnt very smart so I dont expect to see soda for a while

[coarse lake]

All they gotta do is run 2rl Noah and win post nuke

Post nuke you go from essentially 6 hp bars to 5

Well it often won't matter anyway, but it's still bad use of jackal, not only useless with Helmt already guaranteeing 2rl, but a bit detrimental

Or just have noise Helmt link

Still bad use of jackal unless rookie

[gritty ridge]

Well ive got helm over on bay stall team, I have no scar so my b3 options are limited

[pearl fractal]

how to win?

[gritty ridge]

2rl bay/Noah team should beat team 1

Could run scar soda for team 2

Siren might not work depending on taunt priority

[tropic summit]

your scarlet team against T3, noise rumani cindy helmt noah against T1

[fathom rock]

Mann

Bro gonna be unionless for a 2nd year

[tropic summit]

well defending against CP gap is gonna be impossibru

crappy bracket you got into

[fathom rock]

On 2 servers

[shell hazel]

man retro had a rename as well 😦

[crystal flicker]

Kirito

[tawny vine]

only way to avoid rock paper spa defence is with power gap

[tawny vine]

guy in my bracket asking others to stop attacking. also same guy

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

somewhere im sure there's an union with a dude with 32 accounts

[shell hazel]

multi boxer

back in the day we had wow players who were playing multiple accounts and formed their own party 😄

[tropic summit]

i remember doing that myself on a different MMO with 2 PCs

good times

[shell hazel]

the monthly fees would stack up though

[tropic summit]

well the one i was playing was the classical f2p with microtransactions for boosts

can't vouch for WoW as i never got into it

[shell hazel]

want to say £10/month ish

per account - dude with like 5 accounts 😄

[tropic summit]

[untold brook]

if anyone would like to give some feedback on my sp arena teams, i would appreciate it...
my account was made ~3 months ago and im still missing alot of core pvp units and the once i do have are mostly uninvested still.
(missing biscuit, scarlet, SBS and a few others also only have helm.T)
im consistantly holding top 3 but i know my teams could probably be better
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtNzgxMDA3NTUxODIyMjIxODc5NQ%3D%3D for unit info
and these are my current teams, raven and liter are CP padding for now

[tropic summit]

T1 is siren weak and also vulnerable noah (to heavy hitters or SGs), consider adding biscuit or moving noah to p5 (or p2 if ran with noise taunt priorty)
T2 assuming siren is linked, although doesn't look like it (alice + noir are attackers), else siren is gonna very likely get deleted. Indom target is also unclear, as alice has self sustain and likely more invested than noir, noir is probably gonna get indommed
T3 is helm treasured? team has a weak B3 compared to other options, but will do if you got nothing else

[untold brook]

i dont have noise or biscuit yet and yes helm is the only treasure i have

[tropic summit]

then those teams will have to do

keep in mind the weaknesses and work on them when you can

do fix indom target although in T2

you can run it in shooting range to see who gets "jumping jackal"

if it isn't siren, move siren at least in p2

[untold brook]

ok

should i move jackel to spot 1 if siren isnt linked?

[tropic summit]

you should run an optimal indom target if you using jackal + blanc

the indom target needs to have less HP than jackal and your second linked unit

in your case noir is likely the indom target

[untold brook]

ah yeah ok

thanks

[tropic summit]

to give you an indea, these are 2 indom targets that are also good DPS

[placid bloom]

links in p1 p2 p5, Blanc in p3, whoever is in p4 gets Def cube to prevent SBS 3rd slash redirect if they are doing indom war

[tropic summit]

the first one uses blanc standalone with a revive to allow blanc to possibly die
the second one uses jackal links

[placid bloom]

if you are playing around Mermaid then Jackal p1

I feel like maybe it's better to make 2 really strong teams and then 1 CP pad at your sync though

splitting your batteries to 3 teams just makes them easier to beat

but I also don't know how much your CP is compared to your competition

[untold brook]

most people have failed their attacks on me since ive spread it to 3

[placid bloom]

that's fine then

[untold brook]

even the "weak" team beats things since im not running into meta comps yet

[placid bloom]

yeah I would assume most people are missing units too or they just haven't learned the meta yet

[tropic summit]

or running unga bunga teams

[untold brook]

yeah

[silent grotto]

how do i counter these teams?

[tropic summit]

what's the third option

also these feel awfully familiar

[silent grotto]

its a scarlet team

[tropic summit]

dejavu

[silent grotto]

that one i can beat with current teams

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

for T1 it assumes scarlet is linked, else use a different flex than emilia (laplaceT/noir)

scarlet 10/x/10, 20-40atk%
trina 4/7/7 minimun

[silent grotto]

tried a couple of times against him earlier with that line up but used xmaiden instead of emilia cuz my scarlets atk% is ass (7%) and lost

[tropic summit]

you know what to fix

scarlet is generally part of the 2 common attack teams

since the other 2 teams will counter emilia with DR or resistance, you kinda want an instant buffed nuke to prevent them from going

alternatively for T2 if your RRH is well built you could consider single buff RRH indom

something like this

you'll need to see who's linked and fix HP as needed

again instead of trina you can use emilia/laplaceT as 2nd attacker thus ensuring who's linked

[silent grotto]

think i could try that RRH unless im lucky with rolls

[tropic summit]

then run vigor on them to force RRH on lower HP

[silent grotto]

if it would help you i could send my blabla

[tropic summit]

it's either

jackal RRH blanc centi emilia
or
jackal RRH blanc centi laplaceT

then check HP on RRH and the 2 flex units

give vigor to emilia/laplace based on who you pick then doublecheck

[silent grotto]

ill try that then

RRH is my most invested unit along side cindy so might work

[tropic summit]

as long as you get indom right it could

hopefully you delete siren early on because if she stays alive it's gonna kill your DPS a bit

[untold brook]

one last thing, should i adjust the order for T1 or T3?

[tropic summit]

you can move trina away from p2 and move rapu to p2 instead

that way you're safe from eventual ele splash in p2 killing trina

[untold brook]

makes sense thanks

[upper grove]

Glad you passed that one. I got used to BS rng involvement with random oneshots and tentacles etc, just 2nd nature by now if you need any vids for bs stages in 28 I have some recorded

[shell hazel]

thanks, I may chill here a bit and move on at 361

achieved my main goal of the extra cd 🙂

[upper grove]

I'm stuck at cc until 381 anyway so no point in malding ch 28 sub 361

MC wall will be the worst

[shell hazel]

I'm 346 and I have enough cd/bd for like 6 levels. cd for about 10 maybe

[upper grove]

I saved up so much I get 20-25 lvls

[shell hazel]

by the time we get new chapters I hope to almost be able to instantly get to 361 but we'll see

[upper grove]

Slowly falling behind in lvls in SP arena

[shell hazel]

very much a maybe - but new chapters should get me 2-3 more cd/crate

looks like other people in my SPA are chilling on crates as well

I was 10 levels or so behind the guy in 2nd and now I'm a bit ahead so I think they'll jump +10 levels or more than I can on the new chapters

[silent grotto]

couldnt kill siren and both emilia and laplace are about 1M hp behind RRH so just to big of a investment differnece to make RRH get indom with those two so tried noir instead but as i said siren survived

[tropic summit]

fix scarlet then, seems budget wise the easiest choice

[upper grove]

I'm pretty sure my bracket is just opening boxes whenever, I never see any jumps in lvls with chapter releases

[silent grotto]

yea was thinking the same

[upper grove]

They can keep bricking, just their credit card fixing it

[tropic summit]

as long as you don't fall for it, you're winning a different kind of fight

[silent grotto]

i should aim for 20%+ atk right, and does ammo matter?

[tropic summit]

can leave ammo as is or get +40%, stay below 28

as for atk, 20-40%, 40% generally ensures you wipe

[upper grove]

I'll never whale on core dust no worries

Skins sure

[silent grotto]

oh i have 200% ammo on her xd

[shell hazel]

yeah same here 🙂

I was opening as I got them as I was able to push but it's getting harder to push now

[tropic summit]

that's good for pve and indom purposes, bad for countering siren stun

can keep as is and just use jackal scarlet trina variant over scarlet trina rh (when facing siren), else can keep as is

[shell hazel]

and not like I can finish every chapter until I'm in the 400's by quite a bit anyway

I need to brick my scarlet ammo count

her rolls are so bad

boots lock ele is the easiest way to fix I think

maybe I'll actually get some atk

I can't do much atm low rocks

does that 60% ammo keep me under the 31 ammo count?

[quick lake]

32 ammo now i think

@crystal flicker 32 ammo safe from stun?

[shell hazel]

is 60% OK?

if so at least an easy temp fix

[turbid oyster]

are overload skill important for pvp ?

[shell hazel]

yes and no

core dps? yes absolutely

batteries for charge speed? yep

[quick lake]

I think might be safe.

[shell hazel]

random stats that don't really do anything? not a big problem necessarily

for SPA you want OL lines for cp pad as well

for CA you just need certain thresholds for stats

[turbid oyster]

so what Ol skill does scarlet need ?

[shell hazel]

scarlet wants atk% and ele%

[tropic summit]

atk ele and less than 40% ammo

[shell hazel]

crit?

[tropic summit]

aim for 40%atk

[shell hazel]

I think she can use a bit of crit (not a terrible extra to get anyway)

[upper grove]

Yeah 441 at the very best for MC, usually 461 or even 481. Then behemoth, snake. Snake needs lime 521, 541 more likely

[turbid oyster]

so scarlet need less than 40% extra ammo ?

[upper grove]

Long road of waiting ahead of us

[shell hazel]

is it less than 40% ammo?

[tropic summit]

ask Rin

[silent grotto]

tried to just brute force for a bit and waste some gems and just shuffling around my team a bit but couldnt beat that siren so i think ill just accept defeat for now and invest in scarlet instead

[tropic summit]

i don't run purposedly bricked scarlet

[shell hazel]

I lack the rocks to roll all but i do want to fix my scarlet a bit anyway

she has 0% atk and 40% is the ideal so miles off D:

i'll gather my rocks and roll/do stuff just ahead of the next CA

[turbid oyster]

what Ol skill does jackal need

[raven plover]

get 50% ammo for scar, so she get that 30 bullets for 3 stacks and avoid siren stun

[quick lake]

4x, atk, 4x crit rate, 1 ammo maybe, for Scarlet

[shell hazel]

jackal wants charge speed

ele/atk/ammo are extra bonuses

15% CS or more if you can. 5% CS on 3 bits of gear is my initial goal for my batteries

doesn't have to be perfect, CS rounds up/down to nearest whole number

[quick lake]

Siren is mostly a gimmick nikke. PvP is more team building than investments tbh

[turbid oyster]

does it need to be exactly 50%?

[quick lake]

Ideally 50-60%

[shell hazel]

I have a discussion on the importance of CS% here #pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

But its fine if u have more. Just need to avoid putting Scar in P1

[shell hazel]

worth checking if you're not sure how it works, because I give some examples of where CS can or can't speed up a team

I think 60% is OK ammo wise right? 20 ammo * 1.60

I think 63% or more sends this to 33

#pvp-arena message

echo and merry both seem to think 32 is fine, so I may be OK with the one roll off for now

[quick lake]

okay should be safe then

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

That's good score. Even @fathom rock being so bad at it he couldn't even get 40k

[fathom rock]

????

Oh suika i hate that game

[shell hazel]

I just do enough to get my daily gems and then run away 😄

think my fav little game they had so far was the christmas one with the frogger thing

[umbral belfry]

i suck at it

only 55k points

[swift mango]

My favorite was the tower defense of Crown event.

[swift mango]

Better than retro at least.

[umbral belfry]

nice number

[swift mango]

Yeah NICE

[hybrid fox]

I tried on SG team it did indeed lose
and then I went Biscuit > rumani to ensure rh doesnt pee and win, their scar takes the indom

[umbral crown]

[sleek imp]

Railtracer my Scar has more ATK now!!

this one should link 🙏🏼

[glad meteor]

71k

I can’t replicate my run lol

[shell hazel]

everyone keeps changing their names 😦

[shell hazel]

just casually MLB naturally 😛

[sleek imp]

thats my siren

[shell hazel]

doesn't look like it to me

[sleek imp]

wait...

oh nvm, yeah my scar do have way more atk

[sleek imp]

buy like 43

[shell hazel]

how is that siren/scarlet? 😮

[sleek imp]

thats scar/siren

[shell hazel]

it's not

[sleek imp]

红莲 is scarlet

[shell hazel]

lies, not in english

[sleek imp]

小美人鱼 = Little mermaid

Time to teach yall some mandarin

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[quick lake]

funny seeing siren in CN

[sleek imp]

they straight up use google translate for everything

Im pretty sure most dialouge in those interaction were AI instead of human translation

[shell hazel]

at least Rheax keeps their normal name

[quick lake]

Honestly the CN voiceovers are pretty good imo

[sleek imp]

I havent heard any

but god that RH actually looks so good in CN

Freaky RH w latex

[quick lake]

Its the censored version i think

[sleek imp]

this is way hotter imo

[shell hazel]

they censored our girl

[quick lake]

yeah, that was the censored version in some of the RH ads/youtube when she released

[sleek imp]

But that actually makes sense-

I mean why would she want to have those exposed, giving the raptures the view...?

lowk they should censor all the nikkes and make all the uncensored ones gacha

[quick lake]

[sleek imp]

SU im joking please dont take this idea 🙏🏼

[quick lake]

Migrate to GFL2

[sleek imp]

girls frontline?

isnt that game like a second job

me having trouble to play NIkke the only gacha already stresses me

[quick lake]

gfl2 dailies much shorter

I think nikke still the longest

[shell hazel]

nikke needs a sweep for the AI

it gets a bit tiring fighting kraken to S7 and I can't auto it there yet

[quick lake]

After kraken s7, the goal is auto s7 next anyways. Sweep soonz

[shell hazel]

well even then it just takes time for no reason 😛

[quick lake]

Too many menus to go through

[shell hazel]

like what does anyone get from me having to auto it vs sweep

[sleek imp]

damn fr?

[shell hazel]

yeah there are, I finally finished the liberation system though

got all 4 of the units liberated

[sleek imp]

I dont even bother to do liberation

[quick lake]

Definitely. I can do like 3 dailies concurrently while clearing nikke

[sleek imp]

wow, I just let my sibling do my dailies in exchange for my snacks

[fast jetty]

nice, i finally have soda comp (the scarlet + soda one in the pinned, s\oda at pos3) and stop this guy farming me

[gritty ridge]

Congrats

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-godess-of-victory-cleaning-maid-anime-gif-5833320246671209448

[tropic summit]

for now*

wait till he learns he can surf the web for the counter

[shell hazel]

what is the soda counter?

no one running good teams in my rookie

[tropic summit]

you already know, just use your knowledge

[gritty ridge]

I believe in you hippo

[fast jetty]

true, but still soda has RNG

how to counter soda?

[tropic summit]

soda in p2 can be un-RNGed

soda in p3 or p4 or p5 is a different story

[shell hazel]

you can taunt soda in p2

[fast jetty]

i have my soda at p3

[shell hazel]

but soda in p3 you can't

[gritty ridge]

You're running scar trina soda helm jackal, right?

[fast jetty]

I am running the 1st team in pinned

Scar Siren/Soda Trina Helm.T/ClipRL Jackal (2RL)
soda to position#3

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

got it, cp gap 😄

[gritty ridge]

Yeah theres this cool lady who i dont like all that much but she counters

[tropic summit]

hint hint

[shell hazel]

never used her

would sora work as well?

[placid bloom]

if it's linked Scar Soda p1 p2, you can just one shot them with 2 RL Rosanna

[tropic summit]

probably less than 1% of the community does

hint n*2

[gritty ridge]

Kuwon they were figuring it out

[shell hazel]

yeah it's ade or w/e

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

but I don't have her built

doubt anyone really does? 😄

[fast jetty]

so eh BKB

[placid bloom]

we building troll char to counter Soda

[tropic summit]

[fast jetty]

https://nikke-goddess-of-victory-international.fandom.com/wiki/Ade

[gritty ridge]

We use the maid to counter the maid? Crazy times

[shell hazel]

maid wars

https://tenor.com/view/akiba-maid-war-maid-punch-girl-fight-anime-gif-4929828943125919042

[fast jetty]

sounds like a game i'd play

[gritty ridge]

Ive seen some wicked clips from maid wars

[shell hazel]

it's an anime, there is one lol

[tropic summit]

there's always an anime of something

[fast jetty]

cygames again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiba_Maid_War

back to training my horses

[tropic summit]

girls fighting with their butts in swimsuits? check
girls fighting in maid uniforms? check
magical girls getting abused by the villain? check

[gritty ridge]

"That time I git reincarnated as a vending machine"

[tropic summit]

noone fights you anyway

a problem you'll never have

ironically the more you spend in this game the less you'll have to play it

[placid bloom]

I wouldn't call checking SPA once an hour gameplay

[tropic summit]

you don't need to check SP arena once a hour if your defense isn't made of breadcrumbs

plus it's not even healthy to begin with

this is a game you should be done playing after 20 mins aside for when you're pushing towers/campaign or SR

[shell hazel]

this is true but tbh I'm not buying levels still, I just out-investing people atm

so my spending is more for other stuff, doubt much of that is making me win here

I push campaign the most as well

[tropic summit]

if you don't have whales in your bracket, you're probably the whale [c]

[shell hazel]

I even beat that hellish 27-24 😄

[covert lintel]

Buying level mean you help union

[tropic summit]

obviously there are exceptions

let's see what happens with the cursed 9 months over

maybe there's some sneaky leviathan waiting for truck kun

[shell hazel]

I can see people who spend more than me tbh even in my top 10 more outfits or w/e

but I'm furthest along on things

[covert lintel]

This felt like tetris so I was somewhat good at it

[tropic summit]

a rip off

[covert lintel]

What's that?

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

suika

[tropic summit]

sad ppl don't know even the original idea

[placid bloom]

the original version with fruits

[shell hazel]

it's the watermelon game

[tropic summit]

quite literally ^

[shell hazel]

as kuwon said that is what suika means

plays the same as the nikke one, bunch of people probably copied it by now

[covert lintel]

I want a minigame like last war

[tropic summit]

instead of minigames let's have the dev fix the game FPS and improve the core gameplay maybe

@shell hazel have you decided what to invest in next?

maid duo perhaps?

4 at the time max

[forest zodiac]

may I ask for some help with this, please?

[tropic summit]

that T1 is screaming "i really wanna catch that nuke", but it's still a 3RL

it would be a shame if you ran a 2RL scarlet

[forest zodiac]

yeah, t1 3rl, t2 2.5 and t3 is 4rl

[forest zodiac]

as in it would work?

[tropic summit]

no it will

[tropic summit]

this is what happens to 3RL bay

[tropic summit]

run these, your teams are on the left
ensure you're not on deficit (multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and make sure you're above or equal that)

scarlet needs to be jackal linked

helmt s1 need to be lvl 10, treasure at least stage 2

ideally scarlet 10/x/10 and trina 4/7/7

[umbral belfry]

noah and bay on the same team

[tropic summit]

"he can't stun them both!"

proceeds to make team 3RL

[forest zodiac]

damn, t1 just poof

thank you ❤️

[tropic summit]

tell opponent to fix their T1 into 2RL

they seem to lack helmT

[shell hazel]

maid duo def on my list. They're top tier raid supports and can work for my elysion tower

[tropic summit]

pve time

hippo next to be on top 100 in SR

[shell hazel]

mine don't have 0 invest as it is just the OL/dolls need work

[tropic summit]

ye you mentioned anchor being already sort of there

[shell hazel]

like need all the OL lol

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

she's 7/7/5 with SR-5

mast 7/7/4 with R-0 :9

[tropic summit]

i seem to remember the maid duo wasn't OL dependant too much tho

just high skill lvl invest needed

[shell hazel]

nah but still like no cp atm lol

[tropic summit]

oh i guess no escape from that

[shell hazel]

skills I tend to have some spare availability on still working on bursts

my bsoda is 7/7/7 and I'm aiming for 7/10/10 as well

need to bump trina burst from 7 to 10 also

I don't know when I'll be able to solve stuff but my pvp investments are like 80-85% to where I want them

[tropic summit]

first in SParena, CA champion, i think you can spare some resources to pve

time to climb the towers and the SR ranks

[shell hazel]

i'm OL last bsoda piece now

I also kind of want to build Mana for a flex (she works in both as well)

[tropic summit]

mana is... peculiar

can't say i like her losing iron to rosanna

rather have rapu overall

[shell hazel]

yeah true, I haven't found it necessary to build her yet

I'm also wanting to bump my OL levels a bit in general (even just +1 for batteries/supports and +3 for my dps)

[forest zodiac]

I need new defence from guy that I attacked
Anything wrong\off there?

Scar Siren Trina Anis Jackal (2RL)
Blanc SAnis Biscuit xMaiden Rumani (3RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise (2RL)
I tried using pinned message thing

[shell hazel]

it's kind of my goal as well

Noah at p1 seems risky

[tropic summit]

T2 has sg feed and 3RL = rip to scarlet
T3 has noah in p1, rip to siren in any position but p1 or p2 (if you've noise taunt priority)

also noah is biscuitless and reviveless, which means SG execution squad can rip through her

[forest zodiac]

😦

[shell hazel]

we saw the retro execution squad recently

[tropic summit]

for noah team either get 11-15%CS team wide or get her in a new team or simply move her from p1

[forest zodiac]

who do I swap her with pos wise? noise?

[tropic summit]

there's a few ways to deal with noah weakness

[forest zodiac]

I can't afford rolling CS atm thats for sure

[tropic summit]

running double B1 with noise and rumani allows you to place noah in p5 or p2 (if noise taunt priority)

in your case it would be remaking the SG team by having rumani over instead of centi

[shell hazel]

if noah has more CS than Noisey

[forest zodiac]

less

wait no

[tropic summit]

if noah has less CS% than noise, it's a noah taunt priority team = bad because siren in p1 or p2 can stun her

[forest zodiac]

sorry I misread

[shell hazel]

Noah needs about 5% more CS than Noise

[forest zodiac]

oooof

[gritty ridge]

Hey rail when you get a chance could you look at my spa cooks?

[forest zodiac]

noah 12.71 noise 9.84

[shell hazel]

it does round

[tropic summit]

so it's 13% vs 10%

[shell hazel]

well the rounding can occur earlier on dupes

[tropic summit]

adjutant on noah and you've a noise taunt priority team

[shell hazel]

what are the CS rolls on both exactly?

[tropic summit]

to be safe input your OLs in https://nikke.work/

select noah, click on her, set the OLs, then paste screenshot here

[twilit bay]

Why do you need 5% more on Noah?

[shell hazel]

it means that Noise takes taunt priority

[forest zodiac]

shiftypad is not good?

[tropic summit]

that's enough frames to get taunt priority set on either unit

[forest zodiac]

ah nikke work is pvp site

[tropic summit]

taunt is applied based on overwrite mechanic, the last to hit gets the taunt

in general 5%CS is enough to ensure the unit you want to be the taunter is the one you need

[twilit bay]

So 1% more would be a gamble?

[tropic summit]

it would be less reliable

position also can influence timing

iirc in p5 you hit sooner than in p1

[twilit bay]

Would make more sense if p5 hit later since it would be further away, but I guess that's not how it works

[tropic summit]

generally speaking, having that 5%CS will ensure you can place noah whenever you need

which is particularly useful when making attack teams

[shell hazel]

yeah it rounds to 5 5 and 3

[tropic summit]

oke do the same with noise

[shell hazel]

duplicates are combined then rounded

[tropic summit]

it's easier than that, 4.9 is 5, 4.6 is 5, 3.1 is 3

[tropic summit]

ok so if you put adjutant on noah it should be 15 vs 10

[shell hazel]

(4.63 + 4.63) then rounded is 9

[tropic summit]

which ensures you've noah taunt priority

[shell hazel]

have to be wary on duplicates can be disadvantageous

[tropic summit]

oh oke that's interesting

i didn't have that on my lines but because they were all 4.9

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

thanks for sharing

[shell hazel]

which will always round to 5% even on 4 of em

np

[tropic summit]

inputting those in that calculator makes it easier so you don't fall in the trap of rounding rules

[forest zodiac]

so I do this?
then put centi in t2?

[tropic summit]

you're gonna need to fix T2, rumani was your B1 there

[shell hazel]

yes but give Noah adjutant cube

makes Noah 15% then

actually is that even needed? let me check

[tropic summit]

if noise noah, maybe 3% is enough

[forest zodiac]

can I keep centi in t3 instead of rumani?

[tropic summit]

single B1 in p1 suffers from same fate as previous team, weak to SG execution squad

[shell hazel]

yeah it does matter

15 - 17% are the same

but 15% beats 13%

[tropic summit]

yeah next threshold was probably 18%

[shell hazel]

right 🙂

I think 18% is a good end goal but 15% feels more achievable, especially if you got a good cp pad set of lines

[tropic summit]

15% is also enough for noah to hit B2 before siren stun

[shell hazel]

just 3 rolls gets you 15% with reasonable reliability

yeah my plan is 15% cs on all batteries first, then see if I want to move any to closer to 20%

[tropic summit]

helm on 21% is juicy

[shell hazel]

Helm is the only CS you even need for stall

I am aiming for higher CS on Helm above all else

[gritty ridge]

Did I cook?

[tropic summit]

lastly T1 feels like it would be low CP wise because you've 3 utilities, of which one is a purple unit

while the team does well on speed and pressure (scarlet + siren + trina), it's meaningless if it's CP padded against

[forest zodiac]

I'm trying to come up with something (like moran team) but again single b1 p1

[tropic summit]

moran can be standalone B1

[forest zodiac]

oh

[tropic summit]

she's tanky enough to live to 2RL, generally also to 3RL

the downside is that she feeds, so beware if you running 3RL

[shell hazel]

21% requires one 5.51% CS roll somewhere or better though

or adjutant - but I prefer to avoid that if possible

[tropic summit]

yeah that's not for the faint of heart

hunting for specific blue line is pure suffering

[shell hazel]

mostly because adjutant cube will lag on levels

yeah it seems it 😄

5% on full reset attributes

[tropic summit]

well but high lvl cube offers extra ele atk% but little stats no?

i think lvl 7 adjutant is reachable

oh but you do want temperance on helmt on stall team tho

[shell hazel]

or you just save yourself the headache and aim for 19% and adjutant

[tropic summit]

specifically for 2.5RL nero it's kinda a must

[shell hazel]

yeah, whole team there wants temp

[tropic summit]

sigh

[forest zodiac]

looks ok?

[tropic summit]

that team is designed to suck you dry

[shell hazel]

it's working 😄

[tropic summit]

ah the s.anis team... you gonna need CS% there

3RL s.anis is essentially screaming "scarlet me"

[forest zodiac]

0 rocks like for real

[tropic summit]

2.5RL s.anis has a remote chance of surviving

[shell hazel]

you can cp pad team 3 maybe

[tropic summit]

ye

[shell hazel]

if you got high cp units

[forest zodiac]

I can't cp pad

[tropic summit]

oof

[forest zodiac]

my pvp teams are barely smaller than pve

[tropic summit]

post box then let's see what else you've

[forest zodiac]

like 50-70k at most diff

[shell hazel]

work in a blanc comp maybe

[forest zodiac]

#pvp-arena message box

[tropic summit]

could make a glass cannon cindy, indom scarlet and noah last team

[forest zodiac]

this what was holding off guy I'm interested for a while, like 10 days at least

[tropic summit]

bah moran is very low invest, i don't think it's a good idea for you to run her

[shell hazel]

time for triple 2RL threat

[forest zodiac]

no lapt 😦

haven't got copies yet

[tropic summit]

and CP would tank with those

rapu anis and pepper are low bottom

[shell hazel]

no emi?

[forest zodiac]

emiless\xanneless server

[shell hazel]

just how long ago was emi released?

[forest zodiac]

I started at crown banner

I think month before crown or so (afaik)

[shell hazel]

emi re-run when?

[forest zodiac]

should I pull xanne (I think they announced she will appear?)

[shell hazel]

feels like she's more for CA

[tropic summit]

xanne won't help much in SParena

[shell hazel]

doubt you can run her that much on SPA

[forest zodiac]

hmmm, I 'll still try to pull her just in case, just not gonna rush investing

[shell hazel]

she's a flex b2 for sg team mostly along with poli/naga/m.anchor/viper

problem is no one really runs that on def as it's abusable with biscuit

[tropic summit]

i've ran through a few of the teams you could run @forest zodiac

tbh without upgrading CP on your utilities or fixing CS%, there's not much that would work better than your current 3 teams

fixing noah is already a good step, scarlet has enough pressure but low CP

the other team is too slow

[placid bloom]

XAnne has some use for attacking team, just not defending team

[tropic summit]

work on your invest imo then ping again later

[placid bloom]

she is still very fat Atk buff on a RL

[tropic summit]

specifically raise jackal, trina, centi, rumani, biscuit CP

investing a bit more in noise will also improve cindy team

try to get CS% on jackal / centi / trina

[forest zodiac]

how can I increase cp on them

[tropic summit]

reroll 3 lines, get higher values, dolls

rocks and dolls, as to say

these units all need invest:

[forest zodiac]

thanks someday maybe I'll finally squeeze some budget for them

[tropic summit]

start from trina and jackal as they're core for your scarlet, which is both attack and defense

afterward biscuit and noah, which are core for several cindy or defense teams

lastly centi and rumani, core batteries

noise looks somewat ok so u can postpone till then

[forest zodiac]

thanks, I'm taking notes and saving that

[unique wagon]

Imagine discussing PvP

[tropic summit]

in a pvp channel at that

[forest zodiac]

about lines

do I care what lines are (apart from CS)?

or I just inflate % asap?

[tropic summit]

on utilities CS% is the most vital, extra atk/ele atk can influence a bit on trades

[forest zodiac]

with whatever three liner?

CS > ATK\ELE?

[tropic summit]

yeah you can go with that

[forest zodiac]

scarlet looks good?

[tropic summit]

ye atk and ele atk wise is good

that's lethal on helmt and emilia, lethal on double buff against B1 noise/moran, lethal with just trina against non B1 buffs

assuming opponent isn't on max core and max temperance if anything

[shell hazel]

if you want to avoid siren stuns as p1 scarlet you need less than 32 ammo (60%)

[tropic summit]

don't bother with ammo imo

if you're low on rocks as is just go for the utilities i mentioned earlier

[shell hazel]

yeah will be more value for now

[forest zodiac]

I was testing her with blanc bursting

so she wouldn't reload in burst

[shell hazel]

it's not that it's that you want her to reload lol

[tropic summit]

high ammo is good for indom scarlet, bad for siren counter

but it's nothing you badly need to fix either

jackal siren scarlet flex flex already serve the purpose to force a bay or noah out of enemy

[shell hazel]

you can run as jackal p1 instead yes

[forest zodiac]

thanks guys for advices

[shell hazel]

rail I need to clean up the house please send help 😦

[tropic summit]

🧹

[shell hazel]

oh I needed that perfect

[tropic summit]

men that are good at housework are popular with the ladies

[shell hazel]

man that wastes time on housework instead of playing gacha games is man wasting time 😦

[tropic summit]

it's probably better having a clean house than a clean gacha

[shell hazel]

can't I just get an android slave maid?

[tropic summit]

we're not in 2100 yet

assuming we even get there with a planet still alive

[shell hazel]

I've played detroit become human

we have all the android waifus in that

[gritty ridge]

Nobody rated my cook

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-delvin-adams-a-crash-course-in-guyanese-cuisine-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-chef-gif-23498300

[gritty ridge]

That man is clearly a flambè master

Nah i think I made good teams for my spa

[shell hazel]

you didn't even include the speeds

[gritty ridge]

2rl, 3rl 95% to 2rl, 3rl

[shell hazel]

just tick the show speed option :p

[shell hazel]

you know you can share em all at once right?

[gritty ridge]

I didnt

[shell hazel]

if you put them into 3 teams you can just share it

[gritty ridge]

Oh I see

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I just screenshotted the saved deck lol

[shell hazel]

put some quantums on cindy team on trina/jackal at least

[gritty ridge]

I thought jackal feed would be enough, i can put quantum on noah and jackal

[shell hazel]

I'd temp noah

quantum trina/jackal

[gritty ridge]

Isnt temp being put on team 1?

[shell hazel]

depends how many you got

[gritty ridge]

Not 5

[shell hazel]

3RL blanc may die

ros would kill drake and RH

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I kinda ran out of batteries for blanc

[oak gale]

@shell hazel what does rossanna's teams look like? i tried to ask rail yesterday but he was busy , since last time he told me to build rossana with 40% atk for that team (jackal , noah , sbs , helm , biscut)

[shell hazel]

I run mine mainly in CA, but you can run her with scarlet also

presumably he wanted you to have ros to assassinate helm and SBS

she's my 2nd highest power B1 😄

I need a 4th atk roll on mine just rock shortage

when the new chapters come out I may see if I can do them with Rosanna on the team 😛

[gritty ridge]

But hippo so does that mean my team 1 and 2 are good

[shell hazel]

you avoiding scarlet?

[gritty ridge]

I dont have her

[shell hazel]

just pull for her until you get her

bank loan = unlimited money

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-didnt-i-think-of-that-donald-kimball-missed-that-gif-14910726

[shell hazel]

hehe

[gritty ridge]

I may or may not have stolen my team 1 tho

[shell hazel]

you may be fine I don't really see that team 1 in action

[gritty ridge]

Like you dont see it used or you dont think people will attack it

[shell hazel]

I don't see much used outside of the CA teams people send but those are usually similar to eachother

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see

[shell hazel]

my rookie is full of bad teams

[gritty ridge]

Oh my rookie is atrocious

[shell hazel]

my SPA I haven't lost spot 1 in like 120 days 😄

[gritty ridge]

Im using 4rl cindy to beat up 2nd place lol

[shell hazel]

so I barely actually fight anyone

most of my matches I get to see are in CA now

[gritty ridge]

Oh speaking of CA, I get in tmr

[shell hazel]

scarletless CA winner let's go!

1000 day thing coming up, pilgrim selector copium?

[gritty ridge]

There's a 1k day event?

[shell hazel]

yeah

starting in like 2 days

I don't think they'll actually give us a pilgrim selector mind you

[gritty ridge]

We can dream

[shell hazel]

I don't need it for anyone I'd probably just dupe RH

[gritty ridge]

Id grab scarlet as you may have guessed

[scarlet adder]

RH or scarlet?

i don't have those two so i would think between them

or sbs

[shell hazel]

it's complete cope still though don't get your hopes up 😄

[oak gale]

so this is good? im not sure how she works at all tbh

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

you can try it, it's rookie so record and see, check your cp deficit as well

[oak gale]

and thats my box

[shell hazel]

you may be in cp deficit there

yup you are

[oak gale]

maybe i replace centi with helm then?

[shell hazel]

you can do just watch the jackal link as it will move to helm probably

[shell hazel]

record a try?

[oak gale]

sorted by power , scarlet is barley higher than trina i think , so i will be helm scarlet

[shell hazel]

it's not power it's atk value

final atk value

[oak gale]

oh well

[shell hazel]

put in mock battle and see

[oak gale]

will try and see if i can record , but no promises bc my laptop literally shuts off on its own if i put too much stress on that potato

number one , scarlet wasnt linked , but she did burst , and they went immune
number two , idk thats all i noticed

[shell hazel]

your ros failed to 1hko sbs and helmT

ask Rail to see if his suggestion for what to do would be different with her

[oak gale]

which means what should i do?

[shell hazel]

dunno building ros to win this wasn't my idea 😄

they are both fairly low just not enough atk/dmg? is your ros SR-15?

what skills has she got?

[tropic summit]

run this you silly

[oak gale]

@tropic summit wake up

[oak gale]

huhhhh

[tropic summit]

water code link and stun noah = delete sbs helmt and jackal

you'll need to then finish off invulnerable noah/jackal

could run indom scarlet instead if you want extra assurance

but w/e it's rookie guinea pig time

[shell hazel]

yeah good place to test stuff out

I wish I had a team left that was hard to beat in rookie 😦

[oak gale]

fu-

[tropic summit]

the idea of the previous team is somewat ok but it needs to stall off

rather go noah biscuit helmt ros centi

you break link, drop their hp low, both teams then hit walls, but you'll come out healthy while opponent has no lifesteal (as they burst via SBS), then finish them off

[oak gale]

last time i thought u wanted me to build rossanna tho for that team saying thats the only way?

[tropic summit]

i doubt this was the team for that

plus you seem low on ele atk on rosanna so it's not even killing a water code

that's generally a bad hint

[oak gale]

i think they had scarlet or smthn

[tropic summit]

ye different scenario for sure

[oak gale]

i only have 40% atk on her 💀

[tropic summit]

another affordable option here is 5RL cindy

but test the initial team i gave you, i'm curious if you come out alive

[oak gale]

i showed u yesterday i think remember? i stayed like 2 months just to get one gear piece ofor rossana

[tropic summit]

as both helmt and scarlet are instant it's gonna be interesting who kills who first

do it for science

[oak gale]

they have noah tho no?

[tropic summit]

and you've a siren in p2

which means she gets taunted by noah, which then lands a stun on 2RL B2

unless opponent has CS% then you're gonna get screwed

[oak gale]

and i have a bullet up my buttcheeks

[tropic summit]

post results

need to see if both nuked at same time

your 4K video is also ok

[oak gale]

i have no idea

[tropic summit]

jesus the lags

[oak gale]

it does more than that in campaign , big disadvantage but big advantage against the serpent and the train boss bc i can just focus

but i feel like my siren isnt sirening

[tropic summit]

results?

the screenshot with the stats and hp

[shell hazel]

she stunned noah

[tropic summit]

ye but i can't see the HP with immune

can't tell if his scarlet/trina are bricked or he actually B2'ed in time via CS%

[shell hazel]

your siren did work but I mean sbs and biscuit and you got no noah = dead if you didn't wipe em

oh yeah maybe

also perhaps the lag is breaking the game 😄

[tropic summit]

cuz noah can burst AND then be stunned which is via CS%

[oak gale]

i closed the screen

[tropic summit]

great

you had 1 job

[oak gale]

again?

[tropic summit]

no

it looks like they've CS% because helmt regardless of how bricked ur scarlet is should probably be dead

[scarlet adder]

people in sp must either hate me or for some reason think they can win :/

[oak gale]

at least ur winning

[oak gale]

dont tell me i need 24% cs on helm

[tropic summit]

let's try hitting water link weakness

try this @oak gale

noah temperance, biscuit vigor, jackal quantum, s.anis resil, helmt resil

[scarlet adder]

or guy doesn't know that between daimond 1 and challenge 10 is 30 diff and should not aim the highest but to get into challenger at all

is this defense ok?

[oak gale]

boom

[tropic summit]

you better not have ammo OLs on that s.anis

also lvl 9+ burst

for the rest looks good, leggo

[oak gale]

my sanis is max level 💀 and ofc no ammo lol

ooo magad

[tropic summit]

ye ok water code abuse hurts

[tropic summit]

sacrificed biscuit to the blood gods

[oak gale]

cant wait to annoy u tmr when he changes his def

[tropic summit]

so you've learned 2 things out of this from that opponent:

-they've CS%
-don't bother use siren against their noah

[oak gale]

so by that it means that i need to max cs on my helm like i was doing before my rosanna?

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmmm

get 15%CS on noah and rumani first imo

21%CS on helmt is tedious

[oak gale]

WAIT I NEED IT ON THEM TOO?

rn this is my helm

[tropic summit]

also wish for RH

you kinda want her badly

pray to any god you believe in if possible and get her

[oak gale]

knowing my gacha luck im never getting her until its too late lol, and i know that much from honkai star tail especially

[tropic summit]

oh that's good she's already done then

you've 1 black line and 1 blue line charge speed that's the opposite of bad luck

[oak gale]

wait i dont need more on helm?

[tropic summit]

put them in here https://nikke.work/

select helmt, add the CS%, see the total

[shell hazel]

you can def improve this set on Helm later

[umbral belfry]

[oak gale]

*ye after like 70 rocks 💀 *

[shell hazel]

if you find you want more CP lock the CS and roll for atk/ele on the other 2

[umbral belfry]

why does nuri high key have so many blue / black rolls

gimme

[oak gale]

what am i

[tropic summit]

in characters search helm, select the treasure one, click on the gear icon on her, add the CS%

[oak gale]

helm is useful for me so ill def get stuff like atk and such on her later , but rn i have the cs crisis 💀

[tropic summit]

this is your helmt @oak gale

you're on 23%, you no longer need CS%

[shell hazel]

does adjutant make her 25%? 😮

does that speed her up even more

[shell hazel]

if we add adjutant do we get more frame reduction

[tropic summit]

it does

[shell hazel]

we do

[tropic summit]

with 25% helmt you burst sooner than a 23% helmt

[oak gale]

ajaucent cube?

[tropic summit]

invest difference

[shell hazel]

ok I bricked my scar ammo so now I'm safu p1

and my noise got more atk (cost a little cp but she outlinks cindy now)

[oak gale]

check here ig im lazy to screenshot 💀
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ4NDU0MDk3MzA5ODAzNjMzODY%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTQ4NDU0MDk3MzA5ODAzNjMzODY%3D

idk if i copied it right-

[twilit bay]

Nero Moran Helm.T Rapun Mana
What would be a consistent counter to this team, is it just Scar+Trina+RH, or is there something else that works?

[oak gale]

arent u capped at 2rl still? or there is bs like 1.5rl or what

[shell hazel]

it means your helm can burst quicker in mirror comps and such

[placid bloom]

you can be low frame 2RL

[oak gale]

this hole is getting deeper-

[shell hazel]

my scar still bricked but 60% ammo for now

atk rolls doko?

[gritty ridge]

Do i win

Also the humble jackal indom

[shell hazel]

atk noise

[wind kelp]

Right then, next season; there's a name on the doro-list

[oak gale]

also here ya go 0 ammo on sanis @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

single target B3 against a biscuit locked team with defenders, you sure?

[gritty ridge]

My goal is to instakill cindy

[tropic summit]

and how you plan that team to instant kill cindy?

[gritty ridge]

Helm

[placid bloom]

Helm can't nuke her

[gritty ridge]

Jackal link

[tropic summit]

why would helm shoot cindy?

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

days of cooking and this is the result

[gritty ridge]

Shouldn't helm kill all 3 jackal link?

Im confused

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-bye-bye-gif-gif-712504850341394020

[twilit bay]

Isn't jackal protected by biscuit?

[gritty ridge]

Rail im confused

[placid bloom]

if it hits Mermaid it's a maybe, if it hits decoy you are cooked

[oak gale]

glad im not the only one that torments rail

[gritty ridge]

Tbf theres a non zero chance siren is higher attack

I dont even wanna attack this guy but some whale is messing up the usual rankings

[tropic summit]

post the 3 matchup

[twilit bay]

Why not use SG against T2 and Noise Noah Cindy T1 (if noise has less cs than noah)

[tropic summit]

oh the nero moran sweaty

it was this guy

[gritty ridge]

Yeah lmao

[umbral belfry]

rrh in stall

[tropic summit]

this guy 100% smurfin'

[gritty ridge]

I have nuked the nero moran with cindy before tho

[umbral belfry]

why aren't we using jackal in t2

that's free food rn with all that feed

[tropic summit]

synchro 238 with already nero and moran on SR5 is something else

box: #pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

This guy has been mucking up the rankings the last few days

I think they think they're gonna make ca

But they've sat in 7th the entire timw

[gritty ridge]

Yeah same box, just upgraded dolls and invests

Jackal and Noah are usable

[shell hazel]

core 3 RH we've not even had a RH banner 😄

[tropic summit]

well his nero moran is the most padded

[shell hazel]

meanwhile

[tropic summit]

gonna need 226k cp

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i can make that pretty easy, should I rh cindy nuke?

[tropic summit]

we can focus on t1 and t3

[oak gale]

adjutant cube is a harmony cube ingame?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

Boosts charge speed

[tropic summit]

check CP with these

[shell hazel]

2% CS don't usually rec it but can be useful to bump into next tier of CS

[tropic summit]

15,5 wow.

[tropic summit]

screw graves put naga in

[gritty ridge]

Lol ok

[tropic summit]

should be around 195-200

[tropic summit]

ok more than enough, record & go

[gritty ridge]

Grave has no ol lol

Well blanc got eaten by Naga and soda

Team 1 did bad

[tropic summit]

right you've no CS% on that team

can fix it though

you fixed your indom right?

[gritty ridge]

Jackal has 3 ol but only blue doll so its iffy

Im having terrible doll luck

[tropic summit]

alright w/e

time for the workaround

your noise has lower CS% than noah?

can just give noah 1 OL of CS% in case

[gritty ridge]

Noise has no lines, but I have no rocks as well

[tropic summit]

you can't do indom, you can't do taunt priority and you don't have scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Ive beat em before

[tropic summit]

you're lacking in tools to deal against this smurf atm

[gritty ridge]

I just had to nuke their stall

[tropic summit]

gotta shift the plan then to T2 and T3

since you already dealt with it then just run the same

T1 will have to wait until you've the tools

[gritty ridge]

Think I could normal fire team 3 and just kill blanc and rapu before burst?

[tropic summit]

with SG spam probably

keep in mind you need high CP for T2

[glad meteor]

OL lines don’t matter much

Doll is good for casters attack buffs

thats why my mmast need cores

[tropic summit]

makes sense

[glad meteor]

But hime stole them

[tropic summit]

cores that i'll never have

[umbral belfry]

max mmast hehe

[gritty ridge]

Nvrmind

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

This was my plan

But rankings fixed so I now I go bully the guy I stole 4th from

[tropic summit]

ah the doroS

[glad meteor]

Bro running nero moran sat 238 sync

[tropic summit]

yeah was saying the same earlier

100% smurferino

[glad meteor]

Champion arena is posioning the people

[umbral belfry]

baby stall team

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

at that synchro he's gonna have an edge if anything

unless he meets scarlet anyway, as they're on something like 4RL

[glad meteor]

2rl cindy should kill too. Moran won’t kick in

[tropic summit]

mhm

[gritty ridge]

Much better

[gritty ridge]

Thats the poor fellow i stole 4th from since day 2

[tropic summit]

this probably works as long as cindy is lethal on nero and helmt, go for it

[gritty ridge]

Ah no need now

That guy checks rank every 30 or so minutes

[tropic summit]

well considering his lineup makes sense

i'd expect no less

[gritty ridge]

This is basically the finalized ranking

[tropic summit]

did those below you already claim?

because you can estimate where you'll end up to

[gritty ridge]

Lynara claimed like 10 minutes ago

[tropic summit]

ok and if those below you are also recent, you're confirmed 4th

[gritty ridge]

Well warilby sat in 7th almost the whole season, theres a big whale below him that idrk where their gonna end up

[umbral belfry]

see you soon in ca bigboi

[gritty ridge]

[ornate frigate]

Does anyone know a good nikke for pvp

[gritty ridge]

I mean, theres alot

[tropic summit]

you can refer to these
#pvp-arena message

[signal hull]

Noah. Yw.

[ornate frigate]

Blac and Noah

Hmm

[signal hull]

You asked for one.

[gritty ridge]

Can I leave noise and noah at sr5?

[umbral belfry]

can you? yes. should you?

they're tanks so imo no. but they're also not as important as other dps units either

then again i sr15 both of them so granted my dps for pvp are done

[fathom rock]

Kara how did you counter corn

[gritty ridge]

Well my dps are all sr15

But I have alot of units i need to upgrade dolls for

[umbral belfry]

if you're still pushing campaign i wouldn't

[gritty ridge]

Mainly jackal, blanc, noise, noah, and bay

[umbral belfry]

but eventually noise and noah sr15 will be nice, yes

[gritty ridge]

My campain units are sr15 dont worry

[fathom rock]

Dis win ?

[umbral belfry]

where's your buffers for scar

[gritty ridge]

Retro do you have sbs?

[fathom rock]

Crown

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Yes

[umbral belfry]

t1 should win, t3 i'm not 100% sure due to how sbs works now

[gritty ridge]

Team 3 you might be able to kill biscuit with sbs

[fathom rock]

Oh ye sbs bugg

[umbral belfry]

lemme check speeds in deck

4rl vs 3rl, you should win bc no sbs indom

if it was indom though

[gritty ridge]

Hime is sbs indom or rh indom better?

[umbral belfry]

never heard of rh indom tbh

sbs is the better candiate imo

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I use on occasion

[umbral belfry]

the common indom users are sbs, ein, reiT, and emi (dw about this)

[gritty ridge]

Its also what im trying to upgrade jackal for

[glad meteor]

been forever lol

[gritty ridge]

Rh has hard hitting burst, shes just countered by bad biscuit timing

[glad meteor]

Alex guy hit you. No frens in the discord

[umbral belfry]

yeah if you rh into a taunter def + bisc it's gg

[gritty ridge]

If you b1 b3 rh tho she should basically oneshot everyone

[umbral belfry]

yes, but still has her counters as do others

i just never heard of rh indom before

[gritty ridge]

Now you have

[umbral belfry]

sbs still seems like the better choice due to taking out more members quicker vs rh's ST

[fathom rock]

I let him attack me on purpose

[glad meteor]

Bizness

[gritty ridge]

Trust me id rather use sbs, I just dont have any type of scarlet

[umbral belfry]

eat the corn retro

[glad meteor]

PvP much better with fren in ladder

[fathom rock]

Gonna eat me back
Pvp scar invest is 31 ammo and 4 atk?

[fathom rock]

Too bad you and chanyuk quit

[glad meteor]

yeah, getting railed on two accounts is rough too. outside of extra work

I was pulling on siren banner as a last hope and got nothing

[fathom rock]

@umbral belfry

[fathom rock]

[umbral belfry]

sounds about right yeah. crit rate/cdmg isn't bad either

[fathom rock]

My scar 34 ammo too much?

[umbral belfry]

siren is gonna stun you

you don't want too much, but also not too little too

[fathom rock]

Rerolling from phase 11 to phase 10

[gritty ridge]

Ok so what do yall mean with scar ammo

I dont understand how it works

[umbral belfry]

like in terms of vs siren?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[fathom rock]

Siren can't stun scarlet if she reloading

[gritty ridge]

Oh so its just timing cover

[umbral belfry]

if scar has more than 32 ammo, she's gonna catch a nice and tasty siren stun. but if she has 31- ammo, by the time siren is supposed to stun, scar will be in her reloading phase. siren can't stun due to that

[fathom rock]

7/7/10 sr15?

[umbral belfry]

iirc scar is 10/7/10?

though i just did all 10s so

[fathom rock]

Just making sure i dont go broke

[shell hazel]

10/10/10 eventually but skill 2 can sit at 7 if budget minded

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Can I leave helm 10 7 7?

[shell hazel]

again you can but eventually 10/10/10

[umbral belfry]

i wouldn't leave her 10/7/7

all 10s

[north brook]

Should max helm

[shell hazel]

mine is 10/10/10 but if I had other stuff to build it's not the absolute worst

[north brook]

Ultra meta everything

[shell hazel]

her skill 1 is the priority

[fathom rock]

No more ele manual

[umbral belfry]

she's literally used everywhere 😭 instant 10/10/10

[shell hazel]

I just buy the arena credit manual things

[gritty ridge]

I figured id eventually 10 10 7

[shell hazel]

always run out of books before those still

[gritty ridge]

But I use mmast over helm alot in pve

[fathom rock]

Surely there isnt some super meta pvp unit that needs elec ele manual right?
Cries in moran trina
Oh wait no trina

[shell hazel]

no she's 10/10/10 for sure in the end

[umbral belfry]

super meta pvp unit
electric

[fathom rock]

Wutdahel pvp luck

Ono my scar too much ammo

2 lines not 1

[umbral belfry]

you best dodge sirens

[fathom rock]

Where magic blue substance

[fathom rock]

29 mag good?

[umbral belfry]

like you have 29 ammo?

if so then that'll do