pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

we add Centi and then click the little cog icon

then we add your CS values

so it's 11% because it's:
4.92% (5%)
2.86% (3%)
2.57% (3%)
5 + 3 + 3 = 11

if that 2.57% were to drop to 2.28% you'd only have 10% instead

alternatively re-roll the piece with no CS and aim for 4-5%

[tropic summit]

Hippo sensei spotted

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-mr-miyagi-noriyuki-pat-morita-the-karate-kid-thats-right-gif-24814735

adjutant can also raise your final value by 2% as shown

but 15% - 17% works the same
note frame reduction 10, it's the same on the 15% image above

18% is the next breakpoint

anyway hope you enjoyed the CS % lesson 😄

if you want pt.2 then you'll have to subscribe to my online course, it's free with a non-refundable $1000 gift

[wintry viper]

is it possible to have 3 2RL SP Arena defense teams?

[shell hazel]

If you have every unit in the game inc collabs maybe?

harder without emi

[wintry viper]

okay thanks

[shell hazel]

not going to talk about how effective 3rd team is but yeah you can without any CS or quantums

[tropic summit]

burst with xmaiden instead of lappy is a tad better

at least you're jackal link killer

[shell hazel]

also biscuit protec

[wintry viper]

oh wow

[tropic summit]

also jackal boosts xmaiden burst hit

so it does actually combo at least

[tropic summit]

ye that's better and actually runnable

[shell hazel]

with emi I think you can do a better 2RL maybe for 3rd

alright, Rail add to pins 😄

(I'm kidding :P)

anis SR is a little cope for SPA without having cp/built

[tropic summit]

you can get a 2RL emi indom on single buff as 3rd team in case as alternative

[shell hazel]

also I cloned rumani

because reasons

I need to fix that

[tropic summit]

you didn't use pascal that's why

[shell hazel]

not sure we can without the double rumani

maybe we change RH out for someone else

[shell hazel]

ok we're so back

inc rapu rng stun potential and siren immunity

but pepper feeds

[tropic summit]

for the sake of sole speed those work but they leave others things to desire

[shell hazel]

yeah we can leave t3 a little short it will feed a bit

[tropic summit]

pretty sure 2.5RL nero/moran will have better results than a suicide scarlet 2RL

[shell hazel]

still fun we can do it

[tropic summit]

i guess

[shell hazel]

pascal instead of pepper t1 adds less feed, but I heard pascal is a bit bugged

and you want a backup b1 unless you move Rapu inland

[tropic summit]

ye those teams aren't even close to reliable either way

[shell hazel]

with Emi I think potential blanc option at 2RL improves the effectiveness

can we feed this to 2RL Rail?

xmaiden adds a nice bit of threat to t3 vs pascal

only needs 6% feed in 2RL

oh actually you can just bump Emi CS?

I'm not sure how her CS works

[tropic summit]

ye that fixes it

lowest feed teams are around 3-4%, a 94% may not hit 2RL against those

[wintry viper]

i want to try this

[shell hazel]

you got emi?

[wintry viper]

yes

[shell hazel]

unsure who jackal links with

does Emi double CS % or something?

no one can reach 25% normally

[wintry viper]

jackal link needs 2 highest atk nikke? is that correct?

[shell hazel]

yeah that is right, it's not atk score on sheet though it's after OL

you can run a mock battle with the team to see who the link is with

against AI or shooting range

[wintry viper]

okay will test out

[shell hazel]

team 1 can also 2RL Ros

if ros is built well could cause some headaches for opponent when their dps gets blown up lol

lose RH + Trina double buff scar though

[wintry viper]

which icon shows the link?

[shell hazel]

just pause it and you can inspect the buffs

you can click into the units and see the jumpin jackal flash buff

[wintry viper]

Emi and Laplace got linked

[shell hazel]

that works I think just make sure that lapT got more hp than emi

so emi gets the blanc buff

add hp cube to lapT if needed

I guess only issue on team 3 is that if opponent knows how Emi works they can just Noah the nuke

I think you could indom someone else whilst using Emi as a good battery though if needed

my brackets all lack Emi so it's hard for me to gauge her effectiveness 🙂

[wintry viper]

thanks for the tips

[wintry viper]

I'll also start working on my Rosanna

[tropic summit]

she's a noah counter and a potential DPS offburst

that's all you really need to know

[shell hazel]

I think we cooked some interesting teams esp with the emi

[tropic summit]

she doubles down as similar to scarlet being 1htiko on double buff

[shell hazel]

the flex spot on scar team means you could run RH/Soda/Siren/Ros as you wanted

just need to ensure enough quantums to hit 2RL

it's 2 quantums minimum for Soda/Ros

Siren/RH get away without any 🙂

Soda/Ros have the same burst gen here

Siren/RH both hit this without any quantums

[glad meteor]

And scar ammo

[swift mango]

My highest score. Finally got 2 big boom heads to fuse together. Turning out they just dissolve. No wonder peeps could reach 80k+ in this game.

[covert lintel]

Do i still 1st in rank?

[swift mango]

Probably

[tropic summit]

it's a bad rip off of suika game afterall

still better than other minigames i guess...

[signal hull]

I had 117k, but had to change unions and now it's lost 😦

[finite prawn]

So how do summer Elegg and Dorothy fit into the meta, if at all?

[shell hazel]

for pvp? summer elegg nope

doros could work as a flex sg unit but there are better options I think, even on a sg team

[signal hull]

They both suck for pvp. PVE-wise, Doro best water dps, Elegg great water dps buffer. Nothing else.

[finite prawn]

Thank you both

[raven cairn]

whats the best sanis team for pvp?

[vapid mica]

didnt expected that

[swift mango]

you do.

[gaunt cypress]

why does rossana burst goes to rapunzel(P5) instead P1 + atker ?

[swift mango]

Why did you change union though?

[signal hull]

I'm trying to play within top 10 Global unions, but I'm f2p and quite low level (compared to their best), so they keep shuffling people between the best union (actual top 10) and backups and right now I'm not "good enough" for top 10, so I was sent to a "lesser" union and as such lost my mini game record.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I see, coalition of unions.

It was never my intention to get in any higher than day one clear union. But I was lucky enough to get to top 100 below I guess. Just want to chill and do my best, not try to get to my 101% tbh.

[umbral crown]

Top 10

[swift mango]

He is an old player level over 501.

[umbral crown]

Makes sense

[swift mango]

But not high enough dmg I guess so got kicked down.

[signal hull]

Me? No, I'm only lvl370. Bit over a year of playing. So yeah competition with lvl450+ is tough, when they can do twice as much damage and have MLB for every character.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Are we talking about the same topic here? Are you sure about top 10? Not top 100?

[signal hull]

Well idk, they score in top 10 in union raids, that's what I meant.

[swift mango]

Maybe top 10% or top 10 in the day 2 clear?

[umbral crown]

For top 10 usually they nees people over 541 or so

[tropic summit]

have you tried rumani noah sbs centi rapunzel instead?

keep in mind you need x3 quantum lvl 3 or x2 quantum lvl 7 for that team to be 2RL

[umbral crown]

Or 501 with good pve investment at least

[swift mango]

Maybe his/her brother/boy/girl friend lead that union.

[signal hull]

Top 10. 9th, last raid.

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Imagine all the chips for cubes

[swift mango]

Just like 4-10 more cube module a month to be honest.

[scarlet adder]

how to beat this?

[signal hull]

It was a lot but nothing crazy, yeah.

[scarlet adder]

go cindy with 3RL or something?

[tropic summit]

there's no best, it's situational on what they facing.

2RL s.anis or 2.5RL s.anis are the common ones

moran biscuit17% s.anis rumani17% xmaiden17% - 2.5RL lifesteal + nuke resistant
noah biscuit s.anis helmt jackal - 2RL (rookie) anti nuke stall
noah biscuit s.anis helmt rumani - 2RL (general purpose + anti nuke double taunter)
s.anis blanc rh centi jackal - 3RL or 2.5RL (general purpose indom 2 buff)
s.anis helmt blanc centi jackal - 2RL (general purpose indom 1 buff)

[swift mango]

It's crazy if you really could casually get to top 10 union at level 300. You won't even deal 1/10 of their next lowest member dmg.

[raven cairn]

oh alright

thanks

[signal hull]

Now you made me feel confused and asking myself if I mixed something up. But I was pretty sure they were 9th... Not 9%...

Now I'm not so sure anymore x_X

And it's not lvl300, it's lvl370! :^)

[tropic summit]

you're target skipping into p2 as long as you don't use shotguns

you can go ahead with regular teams and just kill p2 and p3 before they burst

if you use SG on the other hand you'll be hitting cindy in p1 agaisnt her decoy, so avoid using those

[scarlet adder]

this team lost to it

[tropic summit]

yes you're using 2 SGs in that one

essentially playing right into their hands

(as above)

[scarlet adder]

ahh ok

cindy makes you target skip?

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 has decoy on when battle starts, any unit but SGs will hit the following unit in order

[swift mango]

There is day one clear and day 2+ clear groups. Idk how it counts.

But average level of top 10 union would be around 500. Some could be in the 400 I guess. But flat 300 is hard to get there.

Even top 50 only recruit 401+ now.

It's rare to be an exception. Maybe a level bricked members from day one. Close connection with the leader of the union. An Alt of a whale. Or just somehow get on their good side.

[signal hull]

All I can say is, they have good coordination and demand people to log in on time and they cleared all day 1 bosses in like 35 mins.
Then on next day when we did hard mode we only cleared one full wave of hard bosses. I did about 1.6-2.2bil damage per boss and it wasn't even lowest.

[scarlet adder]

but still a bit weird i swear i bursted with rapi and killed absolutely no one and rapi should obliterate biscuit at least

[gaunt cypress]

I used the same formation previously. and rossana goes to rumani and sbs

[gaunt cypress]

they already used quantum

[swift mango]

You could screenshot their union to know.

If it's true then they should have 5+ lv700+ whales, maybe 1 or two lv800-900+ to carry the rest of the union. And just feel generous with helping newbie to get reward.

Also, like I said, you could be brother or girl friend of a whale. Who knows.

[signal hull]

No, I'm not. I just applied and was accepted. I guess I'm likeable like this. :^)

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit this will do it?

[tropic summit]

move cindy away from p2 she gives enemy RLs 1.25x extra burst gen

while cindy in p1 gives enemy RLs 1.75x extra burst gen

jackal siren cindy anis rrh, assuming siren and rrh are linked

if CP is good looks good

[scarlet adder]

will check it

[gaunt cypress]

rumani and sbs

[scarlet adder]

yep , thank you

[tropic summit]

ye this looks like normal behaviour

if 1 attacker it will be p1 and attacker (assuming alive)
if 2 attackers it will be both attackers (assuming alive)
if 3 or more attackers, first come first served (assuming alive)
if no attacker, p1 and p2 (assuming alive)

[scarlet adder]

i already fought the guy and this fight i won so with this team i should defeat him

[tropic summit]

very slow enemy team, you'll shread them

and rosanna in p1 will lose conceal to splash

[gaunt cypress]

Well then, what is the cause rossana goes to attacker & P5 ?

[tropic summit]

ask SU not me

[gaunt cypress]

higher atk ?

[tropic summit]

condition doesn't state that

[scarlet adder]

but cindy seems really weird, does she give unit next to her extra health and enemy skips her, and hitting her generate extra burst 😄 really complicated for skill just described like this

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor @fathom rock @umbral crown can we get this pinned aswell

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

you can check this btw #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

that's something you generally wouldn't know or find out on your own don't worry

the reason for which you're seeing cinderella ran in p1 is because the average lad doesn't know

[scarlet adder]

why even in p2 she gives extra burst 😄 is that avatar 25% on her :D?

[umbral crown]

Its a mod who can pin stuff, usually doro does it

[tropic summit]

because splash hits her + decoy

[scarlet adder]

so it hits p1, p2 and decoy 😮

really weird 😄

[tropic summit]

@oak rivet do you mind pinning the rosanna targetting priority posted by Merry? it has been a decently frequently asked question

the following: #pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

thank you

[gaunt cypress]

im worried that if i put rapunzel in P1, rossana suddenly change her target to P1 and attcker and then rossana burst still goes to attacker and p5

[tropic summit]

<@&946725432554836008>

[tropic summit]

uh again hit p4 and p5

[tropic summit]

@worthy knoll any idea why this happens?

[worthy knoll]

??

[tropic summit]

rosanna hits p4 and p5, although centi is not an attacker

[glad meteor]

P3 ros

[worthy knoll]

Coz P3 Ros

[gaunt cypress]

im lucky coz his rossana only at SR5

[tropic summit]

so due to vicinity?

[worthy knoll]

Its in my Ros targetting right?

[tropic summit]

then it's working as intended

[worthy knoll]

P3 Ros, One attacker not in P5 = Attacker P5

[gaunt cypress]

the what bout this ? p1 and attacker

[worthy knoll]

Its p5 Ros

[gaunt cypress]

ohhh

[worthy knoll]

If its P4 or P5 it goes Attacker P1

Assuming sole attacker is not on P1

[tropic summit]

yep i get it now

[worthy knoll]

But P3 Ros has a chance to hit P1 too I'd say the chances are 90% P3 10% P1

[tropic summit]

gacha within gacha

[worthy knoll]

I think its because Ros other target if no more attacker is the one furthest from her

P3 Ros is confused who is further between P1 or P5

But most of the time it hits P5

Furthest position wise not view wise

[hybrid fox]

do I win

[glad meteor]

Phase 3 bay

[hybrid fox]

that's my bracket for u

[tropic summit]

you sure you wanna run SGs into moran? the other two look good, direct counters, you gonna need to survive a few hits from invulnerable noah and maybe rumani

(rumani is very likely to be 1 tapped although)

[hybrid fox]

I can go blanc Emi xmaiden biscuit rapu too
need position change

[hollow lagoon]

That Cinderella team is 2.5-3 rl scarlet should kill it

[hybrid fox]

yeah that one should win I had similar fights

[tropic summit]

that'd bypass bay but might not be lethal, moran + bay might reduce the nuke enough

2 wins on 3 is good enough i guess

[hybrid fox]

want a vid?

[tropic summit]

as you wish, just in case they're running some funny CS%

it's always good to have one

[vapid mica]

what ol line does tdrake need for pvp or just go for cp?

[tropic summit]

atk% ele atk

[hybrid fox]

is it impossible that I shoot down bay in time?

[tropic summit]

you mean with the SG teams?

[hybrid fox]

yes

[tropic summit]

you need to dig through moran and her life regen

after that you need to dig through siren aswell

they'll have already bursted by then

you're also getting 1 of the SGs stunned at p1

[hybrid fox]

no, SGs target pos5 no?

[tropic summit]

that's when you're defending not attacking

[hollow lagoon]

Attacking sg hit p5 or no?

[tropic summit]

attack = SR hit p5
defense = SG hit p5

[hollow lagoon]

Then u need snipers then

[hybrid fox]

oh

[tropic summit]

ye w/e intern designed arena wasn't sober

dw

[hybrid fox]

blanc emi then

[tropic summit]

ye it has better odds probably

although moran + bay + lifesteal are gonna be on when she hits

just count on t2 and t3

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t siren stun Moran and force opponent siren to burst?

Or is that team too fast

[hybrid fox]

I FORGOT TO SWITCH POS

team 2 was close rh went peeing on everyone

[tropic summit]

tbf the easist way to deal with this one is scarlet on double buff, as they're at best 2.5RL

the second best option is scar-blanc-ross, rosanna will kill both water code, then you can let scarlet on indom kill via counters siren and moran

[tropic summit]

[gaunt cypress]

I had a really bad experience using scar team againts cindi + bisc imun

cindi survive coz she got imun from biscuit

[gritty ridge]

You gotta kill em without damaging too much

[gaunt cypress]

hes 45 lvl above me

[gritty ridge]

Ah thats fine

[gaunt cypress]

So instead of using B1 RH, it would be better to use a jackal B1 ?.

[gritty ridge]

No

I think it may be Emilia beating up Cindy in p3

If you oneshot cindy she cant go invul from bisc

[gaunt cypress]

scar S2 did the same thing

[gritty ridge]

I remember someone had a targeting prio list, I just dont know who or where its at

But p3 was just labeled emilia

[gaunt cypress]

I don't know what you mean, but yeah i'll try without bring emi

[gritty ridge]

There is a definite chance I am very wrong btw

[hybrid fox]

Yeah that happened to me

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal did you ever end up getting sparkle?

[wet crystal]

yup, but resources going into phainon team atm

[umbral belfry]

huge

[wet crystal]

somehow doing better with ruan mei instead of robin in the phaiteam

[umbral belfry]

I never did end up getting phai

now I'm liable to crash out and e6 mydei

[wet crystal]

I've been enjoying auto mydei (friend's mydei) might get mydei rerun if I don't grab cerydra

[umbral belfry]

how I love him

I'm at e2 since he first came out and he's so

[wet crystal]

oh, I got influenced and picked up WuWa [strict f2p]

[umbral belfry]

wuwa is....hm

I don't think it's bad but maybe it's just me trying it after being so burned out from genshin

the characters are nice tho

and the combat is way better

[wet crystal]

no experience with genshin, but it was the characters and graphics that hooked me, coin tossed on my 4th game for f2p [between wuwa and uma musume]

[umbral belfry]

horses

for what it's worth though yeah wuwa isn't too bad imo

[gaunt cypress]

some people use this comp, moran nero

[wet crystal]

on a journey to rizz more waifus

[umbral belfry]

cantarella

[wet crystal]

t o n g u e

[umbral belfry]

I'll play again when they add more husbandos

don't gimme that emote @signal hull

[signal hull]

What are you, a girl?

[umbral belfry]

I have 2 hands to like both flavors of waifus and husbandos

[umbral belfry]

was this not obvious

[signal hull]

Wuwa is beautiful, absolutely top notch graphics for anime, but man, do I absolutely HATE the story...

[wind kelp]

Well, got 13h of 2nd spot and then got double teamed to 7 :p Maaaaybe because my 2nd team didn't have a burst 2 ahem

[umbral belfry]

yeah I think it was the story that made me stop early imo, but it's still a pretty game with fun gameplay

[umbral belfry]

jumped

[wet crystal]

I've been warned of its yappiness, but I play HSR

[wet crystal]

is that a bow or a fishing rod

[umbral belfry]

tbh the waifus plot will likely make you stay

camellya

[wind kelp]

Then again, 13h in 2nd means like, 30h in 4th, so it balances out 😄

[signal hull]

It's not even yappiness (that's more of a genshit forte), but it's just so... nonsensical, boring, pretentions, artsy-fartsy, idk, it's just awful. I'm waiting for 3.0, if I dislike new zone, I'm quitting.

[wet crystal]

what brought me in was phrolova

[umbral belfry]

I stopped after like idk the 2nd patch so I can't comment further

[umbral belfry]

ping me when they add geshu lin. until then I'm from wuwa

or when that blonde transformation girl reruns bc

[umbral crown]

Thats rude

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

emilia splash hits up to p3 you mean

regular RLs up to p2

then all other non splash guns p1

SGs on attack shoot p1
SR on attack shoot p5

SGs on def shoot p5
SR on def shoot p1

[gritty ridge]

Wtf is that splash range

Does that mean that if taunt p3 emilia hits the whole team?

[glad meteor]

Yes

[gritty ridge]

Scary

Also, could you make taunt p3 beneficial if you have jackal and her 2 links p2/3/4?

[fast jetty]

been always losing to lower ranker's attack 💀 is there way to make some variety in my defense comp

thats the 3 i use

maybe some blanc team idk (heard they are RNG so can win some)

[glad meteor]

On defence? Seems inefficient i feel like.

[gritty ridge]

If this isnt bad cp could try this

[tropic summit]

this is rookie though isn't it

you're not supposed to win on rookie unless opponent makes a mistake

[fast jetty]

it is, so

i want to at least set them up for a mistake

[tropic summit]

well soda is your best bet then

[fast jetty]

can i replace siren for soda? or it is very needed

[tropic summit]

if placed in p3 it's up to RNG
if placed in p2 she can stun noah unless opponent runs 2 taunters with backup B2

the best advise although is to spend 0 effort on rookie and just get your dailies done

[gritty ridge]

Soda is not fun to deal with on defense, siren is predictable

[fast jetty]

true, looks like the part need upgrade is not my nikke but my heart

[tropic summit]

that mode in itself gives such piss poor rewards it's not worth bothering "winning"

[gritty ridge]

Yeah the rewards for 200th and 1st are barely different

Rail was my soda team right at least?

I wanna be a chef someday

[fast jetty]

pvp mode in general dont have that much different reward (which i think is good for overall game health). some gems yes but not a lot diff

[gritty ridge]

Spa at least has a reason to try to get top 10

[fast jetty]

yeah top 100 and top 10 have big diff very true in sp

[gritty ridge]

Ill be aiming for top 3 next season

[fast jetty]

just praying to be in top 4 all i do is to make a team (from pinned basically ) and attack that mf in top3 and top1-2 and login every hour

[gritty ridge]

I see 2 bird themed people

[fast jetty]

peak gameplay

[fast jetty]

I also tried to change my team a bit but decided to not bother

• helm burst counter scar
• scar counter their 2nd best team
• let go their cindy team

[shell hazel]

I gap all my rookie people lol

100k above the guy who is 5 levels below me with the same team

[fast jetty]

big rolls wasted(?) in pvp

[shell hazel]

eh last 3 are pve as well tbh

[fast jetty]

lcore 6 helm tho thats prob that

[shell hazel]

she's my highest core, I keep getting her for some reason

but mlb to c6 isn't 100k anyway

my opponent needs to silver mileage some noah dupes to MLB at least

[gritty ridge]

Nah they're gonna materialize full c7 soda scar

[fast jetty]

really, i didn't know that
also i dont think you can silver mileage noah righj

[gritty ridge]

You can

[shell hazel]

you can in fact

[scarlet adder]

does siren burst gen skill play any role? or is too slow

[fast jetty]

actually there is privilgrim in silver milage? did they ugprade it or something (lil snow white today)

[shell hazel]

each copy of a unit is like 2k CP max

[fast jetty]

i remember silvered my maxwell and privaty for the mlb 200 wall

[gritty ridge]

We get smol whit, baby rapu, and noah

[shell hazel]

noah can appear here but it's also random won't be there always

my dupes

no core max yet 😦

this is what about 9 months looks like for me lol

[fast jetty]

i prob need the fav items one (viper? tove?) before i buy noah's copy

[gritty ridge]

Be careful with viper

[shell hazel]

for her treasure anyway for pvp as think her last phase makes her re-enter b2

[gritty ridge]

She also is probably a bad girlfriend

[shell hazel]

I just dupe out Noah as much as I can for now, I don't even have Viper still 😄

[next skiff]

hey can people help me with team building stuff for pvp, i dont have much built tho

[gritty ridge]

Thats what we're here for

[next skiff]

this is who i have

[gritty ridge]

Scarlet

[next skiff]

i got her yesterday so shes still low power

[cunning crown]

no, thousands more must be tricked into bricking their viper so my suffering does not go unshared

[shell hazel]

zael renamed

[next skiff]

this is my current 3

idk if that helps

[gritty ridge]

No trina is sad

Well probably cook for 2 3rl teams 1 cp team

[next skiff]

wait

this one

[shell hazel]

I see Trina

[next skiff]

i can put her in syncro

[shell hazel]

👀

[next skiff]

i forgot i had more until i saw name and was like i swear i have

[shell hazel]

I'd build a Scarlet team and then I'd cp pad 2 teams with your highest cp tbh

you do not have the units to make multiple teams

[gritty ridge]

Yeah hippo is right

This should be a decent cp?

[shell hazel]

yeah 2RL scarlet though can usually get 2RL without HelmT

[next skiff]

i have helmt

[gritty ridge]

I was mainly thinking helm cuz shes so high cp

[shell hazel]

if you can 2RL without her though she can go in a cp pad team and make it able to burst this century

[gritty ridge]

Ok maybe trina in sync might he helpful

[next skiff]

id need 4 hours for that

but ye i can give her a couple skill levels and syncro

[shell hazel]

your main focus should be on pushing campaign for now

[gritty ridge]

Hippo do I win?

[shell hazel]

pvp comes a bit later usually. you will do better in pvp if you pushed more campaign levels by having higher sync and better passive outpost

[next skiff]

so dont worry too much just focus on getting to 200 sync?

[shell hazel]

i'm not reviewing matches atm I'm about to eat dinner 😄

[gritty ridge]

Yolo it is

[shell hazel]

mainly you want more campaign progress

hard + normal as far as you can get them

every 5 levels/stages upgrades the outpost

[next skiff]

ill keep trying, im slowing down at 26 and halfway through hard10

[shell hazel]

yeah 26 without 200 sync is rough

[next skiff]

im getting close tho, ive got 200, 191, 195, then 2 190s so just gotta keep pushing

[glad meteor]

Can’t you cp pad b1

[shell hazel]

need a lot of core dust post 200 as well

[next skiff]

ill add trina to sync and then focus on levelling up then go back to pvp, ty for help

[shell hazel]

wishlist the core units as well

[next skiff]

ye i already have jackal biscuit and blanc wishlisted just no luck

viper too

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit it works

[shell hazel]

viper isn't really meta for SPA or rookie tbh

[fathom rock]

I kept ch9

[next skiff]

oh i saw she was high up on a tierlist

[tropic summit]

well it was pretty mean what we built

let's see how long till they figured it out

refrain using it near season end and keep it for start of season imo

[shell hazel]

we dropped to 9 why we sat there Retro? lol

[tropic summit]

so they can't pratice

[fathom rock]

Thia guy can cp gap

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Maybe he lazy

[shell hazel]

wishlist for b1

[pale knoll]

What 👀

[next skiff]

ill add rumani

[tropic summit]

let's hope he keeps being lazy

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

b2 - if you miss any of trina/centi/noah/biscuit wishlist those

[glad meteor]

Interesting user name

[tropic summit]

reminds me of elegg

[glad meteor]

I wonder what would come up if we searched it on google

[glad meteor]

not just the feet part

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

How 2 win

[tropic summit]

if you had scarlet you could punish that

your closest bet is double buff ein

[fathom rock]

If

[tropic summit]

or a rosanna

[fathom rock]

My ein is built

[tropic summit]

oh

there's a play we can make here

we can taunt their noah with your noah to taunt your siren

oh but it's 3RL

single target RH and yolo it s

[wind kelp]

BTW @wicked horizon , i won't poke the 4th, should be good here points wise. I'll grab the spot before the reset though so i start higher, maybe get in that top 3 fight 😄

[obtuse dagger]

is this my coworker or smthing?

[wicked horizon]

Playing Nikke at work?

[tropic summit]

dafuq this is cursed with your box tho

it's tailored against what you missing

can't punish with rosanna
can't punish with scarlet
screws over your SGs
screws over emilia with DR stack

[obtuse dagger]

nope around this time is my end of shift LOL

[fathom rock]

Blanc to counter dr?

[tropic summit]

probably is they're 2RL and with a helmT B3

so you're forced to 2RL on single buff

risky

[fathom rock]

Emi blanc rh centi jack is 2rl

[scarlet adder]

ok i couldn't wait and did it 😄

[tropic summit]

you mean emi helmt blanc rh jackal

oh you relying on feed

[fathom rock]

I mean centi jack

[tropic summit]

check your links in union range

[fathom rock]

Sbs?

My global scarless

[tropic summit]

their rosanna built to 1hitko even without ele weak?

u can xmaiden in case instead

[fathom rock]

Like i know

[lunar pawn]

sooo anyone got bay treaure yet?

[tropic summit]

go xmaiden if you're unsure you'll live

[tropic summit]

go get em (check emi is linked)

[fathom rock]

Emi is link

[tropic summit]

gud

[fathom rock]

With xmid im 20% deficit

[tropic summit]

not gud

yolo with SBS on temperance and pray it is not a crit

or you could laplace

[fathom rock]

17% deficit

[tropic summit]

unleash the cubes

[fathom rock]

I can alice?

[fathom rock]

17%

[tropic summit]

even with those?!

🧱

switch over helmt and pray for the best for emi on RH buff

cindy/laplace/alice whoever is the highest CP

[fathom rock]

Emi worked

With centi

[tropic summit]

wows

the ultra copium of copes

[worthy knoll]

you could have just punished the Bay team with RRH

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

his CP sucked for T3

emilia has good burst gen for T2

move RRH to T2 and you need more burst gen and need her indommed

headache.

[worthy knoll]

You used RRH?

All I saw in the pic was RH

[tropic summit]

he used these i think

[worthy knoll]

Yeah where is the part move RRH to T2

I don't see RRH being used

[tropic summit]

no i mean it would've been an headache to move RRH to T2 because he had CP issues on T3 and burst gen needed on T2 is for 2RL

opponent helmT will snipe at 2RL so RRH needs to be indommed at 2RL

[worthy knoll]

I'm still confused, what does RRH have to do with CP issues if she wasn't used

Or do you mean his RRH is low CP?

[tropic summit]

he needs 2 teams on 2RL but helmt needs to be T3 or he's on deficit

[worthy knoll]

What team need to be 2 RL?

Only against Scar right?

[tropic summit]

both enemy teams are on 2RL

[worthy knoll]

You don't need to be quick against a feeble Helm burst

[tropic summit]

he's running jackal linked against helmT

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i lost the scar fight
Their scar has 20 ammo amd reloaded way too perfect timing

[worthy knoll]

Just use 4 RL against HelmT

[oak gale]

so it took me like a whole 2-3 month to get rossana's last equipment from interception
she has 40% atk @tropic summit *so many resources stocked ever since then 💀 *

[tropic summit]

what did you run?

[fathom rock]

Noah biscu condy helmt rumani

[tropic summit]

and how that team lost to scarlet?

[fathom rock]

It didnt 2rl

[tropic summit]

but it's natural 2RL

your rumani got 1 hit by rosanna?

[fathom rock]

Scar covered
Only helm died but she fired 2 shots

[tropic summit]

but you're behind noah shield

[fathom rock]

They 2rl too wdym

[worthy knoll]

Did you mean they whiffed?

Can you post the vid

[oblique ridge]

The real PvP chef gains an assistant. TURNING UP THE HEAT

[fathom rock]

My wifi limted ill try post

[tropic summit]

whiff on reload would be insane

[worthy knoll]

Tbh, just use Jackal on Scar team

[oak gale]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-tony-chopper-one-piece-ducking-out-sneak-anime-gif-13933034

[fathom rock]

3mb
Shpuld be enough info?

[worthy knoll]

Lol that Noah whiff

[fathom rock]

[worthy knoll]

Yeah it did whiff, that was funny

[tropic summit]

you kidding me

that's like the worst luck i've seen in a while

[oblique ridge]

The Rosanna Effect

[worthy knoll]

Was noah your highest CS?

[fathom rock]

Yes

[scarlet adder]

what do you think?

[worthy knoll]

It backfired on you this time

She hit exactly when Scar on cover

[tropic summit]

that is so dumb

[fathom rock]

If i give her lv3 cs cube i win?

[tropic summit]

the timing is so dumb

[worthy knoll]

Not sure, does it change the frame?

[tropic summit]

[worthy knoll]

If you add 2 CS from what you have now

[fathom rock]

Noah has rn 4.92 x 3 cs

[tropic summit]

that's 15%

it will round up

[worthy knoll]

18% is next tier

Yeah not enough for adj cube

[tropic summit]

so adjutant 2% won't hit next frame

[worthy knoll]

Its just 17%

[tropic summit]

what are the odds of this

[fathom rock]

wow this match just aint made for me

[tropic summit]

this is cursed

[worthy knoll]

Lemme try

Show your box tho, or link of the box

[fathom rock]

I can gem like 2 more tries for science lmao

[worthy knoll]

Hmm is your Rosanna built?

[fathom rock]

No

[worthy knoll]

Nvm, show the box ordered by CP first or if its posted already just the link

[fathom rock]

#pvp-arena message

This match is literally not for me lmao

Emi blanc rh can beat t1 atleast if 2rl

[tropic summit]

the CS% thing is ridicolous

i've ran that team countless times and first time i see it

[worthy knoll]

Mmh, which units have higher attack than your RRH?

[fathom rock]

lemme check

[tropic summit]

not only the bullet count on scarlet but the CS% speed being exactly the timing for when scarlet reload

[worthy knoll]

We will sacc that unit to HelmT

[tropic summit]

it's like stepping in s**t not once but twice

https://tenor.com/view/rolando-inocencio-rolly-cross-holy-water-exorcism-gif-9872182149453979149

[fathom rock]

Alice / ein pretty much so far still checking

[worthy knoll]

No PoliT, could have cooked something unique for T2 if you had PoliT

[fathom rock]

And rh too

I am comparing to cubeless rapi lmao

Alice ein and rh higher atk than rrh

Alex is typing did he beat me

[rose oracle]

Retro can you let me beat you on the last day for spa arena? ||so I get 2,400 gems, I'm kinda poor||

[fathom rock]

<@&946725432554836008>

[fathom rock]

Fine ill take ch10 and you go ch9 lemme login

Thank you dear mods

[rose oracle]

I mean for tmr ._.

[fathom rock]

? On reset ?

[rose oracle]

yeah

[fathom rock]

[rose oracle]

also how did you ping mods like that

[fathom rock]

you can ping roles

[worthy knoll]

Check if there are CP problems

[rose oracle]

oh, I see

[worthy knoll]

Crown be Blanc too I guess

[fathom rock]

Scarlet?

[worthy knoll]

Oh you don't have her

[fathom rock]

I want her man

[worthy knoll]

ReiT.. is low CP

[fathom rock]

Cuz i didnt build much

[worthy knoll]

Lets change T2 to SBS Blanc then

Its bugged atm anyway

[rose oracle]

why does it only give me these people to fight?

[fathom rock]

Im still in 6th

[rose oracle]

are you sure?

[worthy knoll]

Try this for T2

[wet crystal]

@shell hazel @umbral belfry @jagged mesa stage 9 kraken clear

1 rock from all 3 chances

[obtuse dagger]

[fathom rock]

7th?

[obtuse dagger]

good for you i have none

[rose oracle]

yeah

[wet crystal]

we should have full burst all the way thru Sunday

petition to increase full burst by one more day

[shell hazel]

yeah I had 1 rock as well

[rose oracle]

spa arena is unfair How am I supposed to beat these people

[wet crystal]

may we have better rng

[wet crystal]

one step at a time

[gritty ridge]

What are the chances an active player in my bracket gets put in a different bracket after reset?

[worthy knoll]

1%?

Or maybe lower

[gritty ridge]

They wont just pick a place to attack

Literally everybody in top 4 is frequently attacked by them

[worthy knoll]

Well you can hope, idk, in mine it usually has similar names but you do get spirited away from time to time

[gritty ridge]

Well they're also in my rookie bracket

I cannot escape them

[worthy knoll]

Should be fine

Still within CP

Though just in case, does your Centi has CS?

Imagine if I see Noah Centi Emi whiff on T3

[fathom rock]

4.92%

[worthy knoll]

So not as fast as Noah

Should be fine, only risk now is Emi maybe could whiff

Your Noah shouldn't die that quick without Biscuit right? I hope

[fathom rock]

She has 11%+10% or so

[fathom rock]

Tempering?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah temper or vigor is fine

[shell hazel]

Retro!

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

@upper grove #pvp-arena message

[fathom rock]

[worthy knoll]

Well T2 only worked atm coz of the bug

[shell hazel]

execution squad again?

[worthy knoll]

[fathom rock]

No merry cooked i have vid

[worthy knoll]

Imma go take a shower now to ready for work, ja~

[fathom rock]

Take care

[gritty ridge]

Chat is 26% cs helm good

[keen vapor]

Give

[gritty ridge]

No I dont have but I wanna know

[fathom rock]

15% enough bro

[gritty ridge]

But what if I want 12/12 black lines

[fathom rock]

26 is good but thats 4 black + lv7 cs

[gritty ridge]

Imagine the cp

[fathom rock]

Ca wouldn't care

Just the cs this overkill tho isnt it

HelmT thw destroyer of p5

[gritty ridge]

Youre telling me you cant cp gap someone with no ol on their team with your 12/12 team?

[deft pelican]

I haven't changed my SP arena teams in over 2 months and just dropped some ranks today. Could someone provide me with some defense teams i could try?

[fathom rock]

Ca have no deficit

[gritty ridge]

Oh so its like sim room

[timid terrace]

What team should I be using on PvP?

[umbral belfry]

the 1 rock too

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Noise/Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/Rumani
Scarlet/Siren/Trina/LaplaceT/Jackal
SBS/HelmT/Blanc/Red Hood/Emilia

[umbral crown]

SP or Rookie?

[timid terrace]

SP if possible

[umbral crown]

helm and drake have treasure?

[timid terrace]

Helm does, Drake doesn’t 😦

[umbral crown]

i see, will be thinking in teams for you

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystalalso i sold so hard this ca

[wet crystal]

🎲 rng wasn't there

[wet crystal]

I think it was round 3 that surprised me, had to watch it

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Alice/Blanc/Rapunzel/Drake/HelmT
Moran/Trina/Biscuit/Noir/Anis
Team 3 hit auto

i suggest you to invest in
Laplace for treasure
and also keep pushing campaign to get more resources y and the chance to get more units as well

[gritty ridge]

Should I treasure drake or is she just a battery?

[keen vapor]

Her treasure barely helps her in PVP

[gritty ridge]

So save doll mats for bay and Miranda, got it

[keen vapor]

Mirandaaaaaaaaa

[upper grove]

You did it

[umbral belfry]

t3 and t4 😭

[keen vapor]

It will only take us another year for Leona treasure

[umbral belfry]

when i go 5-0 / 4-1 all CA and the rng says 😭

next time at least stall team testing was worth it

[wet crystal]

t4 was clutch

[shell hazel]

yeah, your video helped a bit with the boss lead in thanks 🙂

bunch of rng to even get there tbh, so much stuff one shots you, or tentacles the wrong unit

I achieved the 83 cd/hour mark as well, some annoying stages later still like the base def ones I just did, but I agree 27-24 was the worst one in the chapter

[umbral belfry]

the thing was it wasn't supposed to even be that close apparently i killed bsoda too early with too much dmg to make RLs whiff so i wasn't 3rl LMAO

but clutch blanc

[umbral belfry]

you 100% want to treasure drake regardless bc you will absolutely be using her for raid

and i kinda disagree that her treasure doesn't help with pvp bc it boosts SGs atk big time, but that's just me

lap + drake treasure way over bay / poli treasure imo

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dra-lap-max-drake-gif-16589142700968295776

[umbral belfry]

holy low res

[shell hazel]

damn right

[gritty ridge]

No laplace

[shell hazel]

Hime send me some rocks 😦

I saw you only had 1 as well but I need more

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Its not like shes not in my wishlist

On my main i have drake maxwell, on my alt i have drake laplace

I cant have all 3

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-yes-gif-21160558

[umbral belfry]

[timid terrace]

Thanks!! I truly appreciate you, I’ll take your advice on everything!

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

@gritty ridge but yeah imo it's treasure drake over miranda for me, alongside lap if you had her. but bc i know miranda is your #1 waifu you can just say screw the meta

[umbral crown]

you are missing some units but eventually you gonna get them all

[timid terrace]

🤣 I like the confidence in my luck

[timid terrace]

Is this one fine for Rookie?

[umbral crown]

Yeah, good for now

[gritty ridge]

A defender for p5 too would be a bit better

[crystal flicker]

Tbh Trina Biscuit Moran is kinda waste

[gritty ridge]

I mean, its rookie tbf

[keen vapor]

Imagine using Anis on rookie

[covert lintel]

rare occurrence
Usually i always in 10th

[fast jetty]

ok my top 2-3 friend switch the comp, which 2 of the 3 is easier to deal with? i dont know a lot about the moran-bay-anis comp (I dont have emi or rumani)

[crystal flicker]

You're a whale, how you don't have Emi and Rumani

[fast jetty]

when was I a whale 😭

Emi is more like i haven't playefd long enough,, i think i started playing when bay was rate up

[crystal flicker]

You don't have invested Soda?

[fast jetty]

no, i can invest in one (invest i mean random stat OL and +4 skills)

heard soda defend in rookie (that nobody cares) is good

[crystal flicker]

You're just need her to burst and she'll stun both Noise Noah, render them vulnerable to Scarlet

[fast jetty]

for the team 3?

[crystal flicker]

Ye, put her on P2, though you need to be sure can 1 tap Noah

[fast jetty]

my CP not gonna be enough for that 714k def team tho if i just make a fresh og soda. 714*85.7%=611k (actually not even enough today with high CP siren)

so the blanc scar team and the moran bay anis team is even harder to deal with than the higher-CP cindy team

[crystal flicker]

That Noah comp might be able to beat Scarlet if they're 2RL

And SAnis beat that Moran

[fast jetty]

cindy 2RL -> i just get nuked by cindy without noah in general

[crystal flicker]

With what

2RL Noah tank Scarlet nuke, the rest just survivin the indom for 10s

[fast jetty]

oh i am saying i prob shouldnt use a non-noah team to fight against this cindy team

[crystal flicker]

You need Soda OR sometimes my SAnis beat that comp

You don't have stall?

[umbral belfry]

if siren has the 2nd highest atk you can put her in p1/p2 as she's linked. if their noise has taunt prio, their noah gets stunned which may lead to your win

but if all their rls has 11 cs then rip

[fast jetty]

i dont i think my only 2 legit team is scar trina and helm burst (maybe cindy)
my blanc team just doesnt work in general in the past ig

[crystal flicker]

That SAnis def beating opponent SAnis if she can burst

[fast jetty]

i dont think i have high enough CP on my scar-trina team to do team 3 btw.. 714*85.7%=612k and i have 604k cp

[crystal flicker]

Yeah just use Cindy 2RL for T1

[fast jetty]

sounds like a plan

[crystal flicker]

Bisc should make them survive long enough to outlive Indom

[quaint idol]

how good is treasure bay?

[keen vapor]

Slight improvement

[quaint idol]

would she be worth building with my current pvp team line up?
scar trina t.lap rumani jackal
noah centi cindy t.helm noise
moran biscuit s.anis b.soda anis

[quick lake]

no change. Bay still mid

[keen vapor]

Soda guess it works for speed

[keen vapor]

I rather max Noah/Noise doll first

But I'm a Poli enjoyer so I did go for mid treasure either way

The fluff >.<

[quaint idol]

max the purple doll?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[quaint idol]

i see. i'll do that. noah did die too soon sometime

[keen vapor]

Yeah, taking care of her is important

[quaint idol]

thanks

[quick lake]

MA behaviour

[keen vapor]

I must test phase 3

[quaint idol]

they are maxed

i got lucky and they are now maxed. what now?

[keen vapor]

No Tove treasure?

[rose plaza]

What are the chances of me beating almost the exact same team? (i'm bottom)

[keen vapor]

Might save mats for Julia

Save is save btw, not use yet

[keen vapor]

Not without siren

[keen vapor]

Oh right, Biscuit it's bugged

Yeah go on

[quaint idol]

not yet. i was gonna go for it but got curious if t.bay is good for pvp

[rose plaza]

Biscuit is bugged?

[keen vapor]

Not that much is just as good as normal Bay

[keen vapor]

Her skill 2 ain't working against distributed damage

Surely we get a patch for it this week

[quaint idol]

if i build bay, which team should i place her in?

[gritty ridge]

Defense i think shes just stall team

Attack you can use her to eat scar tho

And then use Noah for cindy

[keen vapor]

Hmmmm

[quaint idol]

but wouldn't her team be too slow to burst compared to scar team?

[gritty ridge]

Oh not at all

If its scar jack you can run helm burst and its so nice

[umbral belfry]

im starting to think this bisc thing ain't a bug no more

[gritty ridge]

You can put a b1 of your choice and it counters alot of scar jack teams

[keen vapor]

@quaint idol I run out of ideas middle way

He has no Emilia and I suspect no Ice Maiden either

[umbral belfry]

i have bad news for you

[keen vapor]

what

[quaint idol]

yea i got no emilia and ice maiden

[umbral belfry]

taiwan testers did so already

phase 3 doesn't have dmg share at the start

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[umbral belfry]

and the chances of a sg team lasting for 20 secs is basically slim to none

[gritty ridge]

Just run stall team

[keen vapor]

they robbed me

[umbral belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOfcfCS-IOg

[keen vapor]

They only selling fluff wallpaper

She can't be good for PvE nor PVP

[quaint idol]

so i can maybe put siren there for stun just to be sure?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah that works, its what I usually do

This isnt perfect but it gets the point im making

[quaint idol]

how come the website looks like this for me now?

[gritty ridge]

I think we're using different websites

[keen vapor]

This treasure batch only got us Tove fix and a promise for Julia

[quick lake]

There's
Nikke.work
Nikke-deck

[quaint idol]

ah, it was pinned so i thought it's the same

[gritty ridge]

Echo help mr MA pls what would go in p5 on the stall team there

[keen vapor]

they're good at avoiding powercreep ngl, SU might be based on this

[umbral belfry]

moran rumani helm bay x is the typical 2rl moran bay stall

[keen vapor]

Lap

[umbral belfry]

usually it's laplaceT

[keen vapor]

Auto attacks are good

[gritty ridge]

Well they're using laplacT on team 2 that you made

You said you ran out of ideas

[umbral belfry]

bullyshake him

[gritty ridge]

So I figured slap mana in there make stall

[keen vapor]

Let's just move her

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

RL doll running out so fast

[umbral belfry]

imo if the bay team isn't 2rl don't bother

the point is to stop one hit nukes and/or cindy nukes at same speed

and scar is almost always 2rl natural or by feed

[onyx scaffold]

bay can 2RL in SpA right?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ik, I run 2rl bay on defense

[umbral belfry]

she can yes

[onyx scaffold]

but i dont like the idea of investing in unit who i use in spa and not CA

[umbral belfry]

that's fair

[quaint idol]

who's x?

[gritty ridge]

This is my spa

[quick lake]

I think Bay/(should) can be used in CA. Just not a common setup for now

[umbral belfry]

a flex unit. but for that specific lineup it's LapT as a common pick

[quaint idol]

i see

[gritty ridge]

You may notice im missing scar

[umbral belfry]

for those who don't have nero stall built 2rl moran bay helm is basically the next best thing imo

due to moran + bay's DR acting as an effective stall. noise + bay can also ork

but any other b1 is kinda meh

[gritty ridge]

Speaking of, im in ca in like 2 days

[umbral belfry]

yeah dw imma see you soon bigboi

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Who wants to cook me teams?

I dont trust myself

[umbral belfry]

when we near CA idm taking a look but rail can def do a better job than i can

but for now,

[gritty ridge]

Gnite

[strong hull]

Echocho-san.

[onyx scaffold]

i saw scarlet sr15 get nuked by shotgun. what is the point of upgrading her dolls anymore

[keen vapor]

but I was moving her

[gritty ridge]

You watching retro's replays now?

[onyx scaffold]

[gritty ridge]

He has the firing squad iirc

[keen vapor]

what

[strong hull]

[fickle jetty]

i able to use Noah biscuit Sanis helm jackal beat this guy once but never again, any suggestion for a better comp?

[gritty ridge]

If no lap can I use this?

[keen vapor]

Don't whip me

[gritty ridge]

This may work, dont put too much belief in me tho

[keen vapor]

Noah biscuit Helm Siren jackal

[keen vapor]

We thought the same thing

[keen vapor]

Oh cute

[gritty ridge]

A little different but basically same yeah

I was thinking b.soda to beat up p5 bisc

Idk if I put it in right order for that tho

[quaint idol]

what lv should i upgrade bay's skill to?

[gritty ridge]

Oh its snipers that beat up p5 on attack

Im still learning

[keen vapor]

SG only aims at P5 if on defense

SG on attack team hits just the same

[keen vapor]

4/4/4

[quaint idol]

oh nice, it's cheap.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i should've checked chart

Alternatively they could sbs burst and abuse distributed

[quaint idol]

turns out my bay is still lb1 so i can't get treasure yet

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Mine is lb2 but r0 doll

[quaint idol]

ah well. treasure is a small upgrade anyways so surely that means no treasure bay still good

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

I use no treasure to eat scar jack just fine

[keen vapor]

Time to Tove

[quaint idol]

tove is not a pvp nikke tho right?

[gritty ridge]

I mean, I know someone who uses her pvp

[keen vapor]

No, she's a raid one

[quaint idol]

i have 5 teams for raids already but i'm going in and out of top 10 in arena because i quit for a month. i need to focus more on pvp i think. but ye i'll do tove next

[keen vapor]

Do 2 extra wipeouts a day

[crystal flicker]

Is it even worth it

[gritty ridge]

The humble ca team

[crystal flicker]

Dead to most archtype

[gritty ridge]

Yeah lmao

Its humble because it cant boast if it wanted to

Heinrich build me the most confusing team

I want people to have no clue whats happening

[crystal flicker]

wdym

[crystal flicker]

Someone actualy running a team full of R last time

[gritty ridge]

Why...

[gritty ridge]

I mean, that blue sg nikke has surprisingly good gen

[crystal flicker]

It's not "Blue SG", It's Maya or Pinne

[gritty ridge]

You literally just named 2 dead people

This match is a 50/50 win rate and idk why

They still burst even with crown stunned

[crystal flicker]

HelmT already fill ~20% per ammo, so the rest just need to fill the rest

They survive long enough obv

[gritty ridge]

My main issue is rh takes too long to kill

Once I get cindy doll finished she should be able to nuke for me

Im thinking p5 cindy cuz funny biscuit

Wait no cant

Idk ill put her somewhere and it'll work and be cool and good

Speak of the devil

[jagged mesa]

Slow down plz ur almost 100 synchros ahead of me ur too strong 😭

[placid bloom]

it's time to retire and be PvE main

[jagged mesa]

I havent even started PvP career yet

I've been pve main all this time and trying to keep up in pvp

[sleek imp]

One of yal must play league

Kuwon!

can you help me climb in lol

[vapid lake]

This is nikke pvp not lol pvp

[gritty ridge]

I think im gonna try this on defense

Yippee

Ill let someone come tell me my teams are bad and I should never cook again later

[fast jetty]

update: end up doing this:

• noah with random friend 3RL vs cindy noah team = win (use SBS over SAnis cause my Sanis CP is too low for 85.7%
• scar trina siren vs scar blanc somehow win with OG anis last one
• moran team so strong, have my left over go against it

[fast jetty]

that was attempt 2. attempt 1 was just wrong since they switch their team order and i forgot what was "team 1" 💀 . cindy lost to moran anis.

[gritty ridge]

Can I put cindy p2 or does it feed

[coarse lake]

Here's the fun part

Cindy is incapable of doing any hp dmg with nuke to enemy Cindy as long as their decoy exists

So unless you stop their b1 b2 chain, they still gonna nuke back

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats the plan

Rh has enough time to kill 3 units before they burst

[coarse lake]

Rh doesn't default target crown, that's your issue

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, so im thinking if I just cindy burst even if defending cindy lives what is she gonna accomplish

[coarse lake]

With biscuit invuln you should be ok

Bc otherwise slow Cindy wins

[gritty ridge]

Well ill have 5 units alive lol

Nobody dies until cindy bursts

[coarse lake]

They have decoy left due to burst refresh, yours just got wiped out by their nuke

Slow Cindy wins 1v1 autos battle

[crystal flicker]

Your mistake is running Cindy against Moran and TBay, they just Nuke tanker
Taking little deficit is not a problem if you have enough dmg

[gritty ridge]

Nobody answered tho, can I run cindy p2?

I have noise and cindy linked

[crystal flicker]

Cindy P2 is 1.25x feed

[gritty ridge]

Ok so no

I only need 6% feed anyway

2rl means p1 volume should be safe from siren

Soda will mess me up tho

[crystal flicker]

Whos running Volume P1 in PvP

[gritty ridge]

Me

[crystal flicker]

She could die

[gritty ridge]

While jackal linked?

[crystal flicker]

Prob fine then

[gritty ridge]

If you scroll up a bit you can see my 3 teams

Id appreciate any input

[coarse lake]

Where does volume go

[crystal flicker]

I still don't see Volume

[gritty ridge]

Wait i meant noise

I get the names confused

[crystal flicker]

Noise can survive by her own at 2RL

[coarse lake]

Just make sure noise is taunt prio instead of Noah

[gritty ridge]

She is, I have some cs lines on Noah

[crystal flicker]

Who even started Jackal Noise Cindy trend

[coarse lake]

Then it's fine, try to replace drake with someone without losing speed, but if you can't, that's fine

[gritty ridge]

I can replace without losing speed but not cp

[crystal flicker]

Pascal

[coarse lake]

Pretty common thing pre-helmt, only way to get noise Cindy to 2rl

With Helmt it's often more of a detriment if Cindy is linked

[gritty ridge]

I know my cindy team is countered by soda but the chance of someone running soda in my spa is abt zero

[crystal flicker]

My CA bracket suddenly started using Cindy Jackal

[gritty ridge]

Im hoping Noah prevents this

[coarse lake]

It won't

Linked Cindy essentially loses decoy due to dmg share bypassing it