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whoever taught you to face indom with a slower indom is probably not me

When i see indom i try to nuke before they burst if possible
either that or force them to misindom
slower indom is only useful in CA if you get a lucky matchup
if your indom is too slow in SPA you die
your 4RL Indom will die to 2RL scar
if you snipe them before they indom sure
I was thinking lifesteal
I had SBS indom vs SBS indom match where I lost because I was quicker and my indom expired first 😄
Speaking of, sbs still eat noah?
that is where slower indom can work, otherwise no it's really a valid strat
i would say no, this is a recent match
the SBS one is the last iirc
@shell hazel lol made it but cant gurantee it
I'm still just farming s7 kraken
might need 3rd ele roll on rapi
or another atk roll, or reroll couple piece on red hood, or level up gear
does this mean i got back to pvp investment
my rapi also needs more rolls just like anything need more rocks lol
This isnt even a good team, why does it keep working
because the average player doesn't know what siren does or what helm or biscuit does
so they don't know how to properly adapt
This team gets abused so many different matchups
give them time to learn the gimmick and you'll soon have fun getting gemmed
Literally biscuit+rumani could counter my burst
Also i think funnily enough my team is countered by jackal even though its helm burst
Because of the feed from crown/siren
are u higher level than ur peers
both team is a bit atrocious looking
Dont bully my team, ik its not ideal but it has decent cp
His team tho is just campaign, I dont attack him
nobody attack my campaign def team either
the 400k cp difference make it not worth it
My highest cp team is in deficit against his lmao
for reference what's your CP with helmt naga siren rh jackal?
Pretty high, lemme check
because it looks beatable in that case
would be nice to know who's linked although i assume RH and siren?
oh looks like you burst with cinderella on 3RL with that even
not running crown nukes your CP that hard uh
I think its actually helm and siren, id have to check
Its mainly doll dif, once I get jackal sr5 it'll be alot higher
It won't get me 40k
But it should put me around 290k-300k
His team is super uninvested if I look at his sync to cp tho
Is this too slow to run defense?
Could do naga
you wanna indom crown or naga?
indom target in p2
Ah blanc doesnt link nvrmind
2 attackers so little chance she does unless you stacking atk% OL
Looks like im stuck with biscuit if I want indom
Is it worth investing on this team for pvp? All 3 of them with treasure
Its 3.5rl i think, so it could work in ca ig
If you match up with a jackal team its over tho
how's bay treasure performing? anyone got her at p3?
So what counters Jackal?
Big single target nukes
So thats the Scarlet team?
scar is whole team nuke
Well I am not building the shotgun team right now then, I had the resources and it sounded fun but I guess it’s not as strong as others
Helm is a big issue for jackal teams tho
Not really about countering jackal. But the b2 support or dps.
Oh yes? Helm is my second strongest unit thats good to know
Running sgs into jackal speeds the team enemy team up. By using nikkes with low fire rate you can feed the enemy less burst gen
Scar jack is a common jackal team, it can typically be countered with bay/Noah helm
Helm b3 is more of an attacker option than it is defender tho
I can build a TBay with THelm team yea
Yeah that works
I was doing okay with the teams someone suggested me days ago but I started loosing because I don’t have OL gear on everyone
This is a pretty good bay helm team, siren can be swapped out if needed
So thats what I wanted to make sure, that my resources are not wasted on mediocre units
That looks good, I can definitely create that team
Thanks
Cp does matter more than team comp in spa tho sadly
You could have the greatest team in the world but if your cp gapped it doesn't matter
replace tove with rosanna, move bay in p4 and drake in p2, doro in p5
bsoda draket bay ros doro
and it may stand a chance
Just like every pvp game then, it’s alright. I just need to spend a bit on good OL rolls and its all good for what my limit as a f2p is
I just wanted to create a summer Dorothy team for pvp because I got really nice rolls for her
she's bad though
So far 3 attack 3 ele and 3 ammo
normal SG so worse burst gen than clip SG, doesn't have good B3, is water code
Oi
he has feelings

he needs to know.. 
You need to be more careful 
Rail since youre here, ive got a question for ya
So better stick her on the bossing content only?
Yes
Could t.frima have any use in ca?
Wth, no
Shes got a decent kit, why not
Then where does the sg team I heard shines at? I guees is pretty much only for fun purposes
She buffs true damage 
Sg team is pretty much reserved for solo raid and champion arena
The one with treasure Tove, Bay and Drake
Not in pvp, she buffs max health and lowers enemy defense
Not enough time for her to wake up in pvp
Champion arena SG team uses different units from solo raid one @jolly ember
Lower defense is meh 
Wheres my @placid bloom 
30% max health buff tho

OMG
Oh I see now, it makes sense thats why it looks so specific on the solo raid composition
MY FAV MA
anyways- should I OL my pvp units like Jackal/Trinas 
Today is the day, got like 3 rocks 
Only last like 4-5s?
Just use Treasure milk at that point

Yeah 36% max health buff for 4 sec
Yeah. Not that good unfortunately. Worse noise with no dr
I'm not your fav MA
?
Kuwon is gone 
Milk is worse than frima
Are you even a MA 
lil chime 
Milk gives life steal 
you reminded me of my league duo, always trolling but higher rank 
I DON'T DO TROLLING 
just proved my point for using boldded font 
if you done with your PvE then you can OL your PvP 
what counts as "done" 
as in having a full SR team...?
done as in you are stuck and just waiting for sync
because upgrading OL is too expensive to be worth
you can reroll your lines but otherwise just use 1 rock every few days to OL someone
Yessir 
okay sorry for bother, Kuwon sleep well
Idk if you care about SR ranking
30% is good enough 
if you can get 10% consistently then it's kinda w/e because it's too hard to get 3% NA
why true
true, I was joking anyways, last SR I hit 5%
as long its not like my gluttony run w that 50% im happy
Is it really
I know it harder than global 
Global is usually free thankfully
if you are not old player it is really hard 
Fair. Need like a year investment 
maybe after like a year you can try to contest 3% if you are dedicated to PvE and screw PvP investment
as new player
and it also needs luck on investing the right chars
Yeah. New player just contribute to overall % 
Unless whale and tryhard solo raid invest. Hard to catch up.
like if you invested AsukaW just to not have wind SR appear forever, as new player that's a big % of your resources gone
Yeah. It all elemental niche now. Need to focus on supports to ensure investment is useful
Started to felt like it was bad somehow, just making sure it's not a bad invest overall
30 ammo Scarlet isn't bad for PvP, though it adds more reload in PvE
My Scarlet already brick at 20 ammo 
Trina gives reload speed though 
20 is too low 
here's a non bricked scarlet



you could say she has a bad habit of losing her head under pressure


You release stress on me
I lost the finals 
But are you rei?

There will be always a next tine to win
The two cn/kanji named players in the top 4 of our CA are also in my SP
The one who beat you is giga sweaty

we fought in CA S3 finals
Bay player?
yeah basically every cn player is a bay player
In the leaderboards i mean
Oh no no I'm talking about the CA bracket that Rosy, Rail, and I are in
Oh nvm i read wrong
Bro really cooked hahha, but last season the CN who beated me you got him after, same happened here
Your cook looked solid, thought you would win
Every season my oldschool Noise Noah Biscuit gets cooked by Noise Noah Siren and it makes me sad lol
Noah being faster than Noise doesn't work for the mirror because Siren gets taunted left and right and will go back on Noah 
I don't want to change over to the Siren version because it means Biscuit goes to Blanc Biscuit, and I don't have Emilia
I noticed, he also did a nice cook
yeah he is giga tryhard in sp and rookie too. 247 ready to spam. Well, he basically holds rank 1 permanently
Was it bilibili cook 
Guess i would need him with me both sp and rookie are ded
No idea tbh

Waos
Like me back then

the resemblance is uncanny

get le 11%CS
Its funny that in the top 8, some people did not even made it to top 64
no more stunnerino regardless of taunt priority or positioning
Oh hmm what do you mean?
Last time
sauce: https://nikke.work/
2RL with 3 RL units on +11%CS may be sufficient, else just get enough to hit the threshold above
32 or 33 bullets 
haha wait I'm too dumb for this
Saber about to get the stonks to win next CA
essentially you're hitting 1.9RL
Rosy
your names makes less sense each time
which is slightly before B2 is stunned by siren
Yayoi-san was acceptable
There's no way the noah I watched last time had enough speed to be faster than 2 RL soda 
Siren stuns a 2.5
Ohhhh, right, so I've been running the traditional Japanese 2.5RL since forever: [Noise, Noah, Rumani, Biscuit, Cinderella]
(I obviously have everything at at least 17% cs with Noah slightly faster)
In S2, JP community concluded that Siren version was weaker in a vacuum, and it's proven true on JP server up until even this season. All of the JP winners still use the Rumani Biscuit version
But Global and CN players use the Siren version that was cooked back then: 2.5RL [Noise Noah Siren Centi Cinderella]
The biscuit version basically beats everything EXCEPT for the Siren version (and the Siren version is slightly weaker against most things but counters the Biscuit version). Siren will get taunted by Noah in the mirror because my Noise rockets won't get to hit their Siren on the second volley
But since all the CN players on Global run the Siren version since around S4 or so, I just keep losing cindy mirror
, which always ends up being the deciding mirror match when I lose
So yeah no, not 2RL. (both CN and JP refuse to run 2RL cindy and thinks it sucks in the context of CA)

Hm yeah, 2.5RL Jackal Cindy makes more sense recently in light of more feed overall
oh yeah last season we started seeing Jackal Cindy starting to pop up a bit in our CA bracket too. I know we've seen it in NA and JP here and there for a while
I know it's always been extraordinarily prevalent in Rookie actually for a very long time
Yeaj, Kaya and some.other people
I see 
But they could not make it to top 32
in CA and SParena siren stuns at 2RL B2
not sure what you mean with 2.5 tho
B1
B1 is fine on 2RL?
i mean in 2.5

Right yeah, JP and Global don't use fast Cindy, only 2.5RL Cindy
Because Helm must be reserved for NeroMora or MoranBay
and they run jackaless scarlet?
yeah, that's the common setups
well RL are limited makes sense
Nero Moran Helm
2RL Scar Soda/Siren Trina
2.5RL Jackal Cindy
SG comp
Leftover Emilia/Mihara/Blanc shenanigans
boring 
yeah Scarlet Soda triple rocket launcher naked is common
but some people do run Scarlet Soda Jackal
extra ensurance in case of laplace/rosanna
but at the end of the day it's still just a team ordering RNG showdown
yeah
Hopefully we see some changes soon. I think the Helm being able to lifesteal through invuln + SBS indom fix is huge
Whoa when was this change
Recent post-Bay pvp changes
sbs 2.5RL indom incoming?

Yeah, i think Cindy swap out with SBS tbh
do we even know if it's a fix or unintended bug anyway
When burst with Helm, even against Noah shield, team mates can heal through. SBS not longer loses of biscuit opponent. Pretty huge imo 
That's huge 
if the opponent has heal your sbs prolly still lose 
We'll see 
this season i made it to top 8 without cindy
i could have done top 4 but cn cooked me
I managed to champion without biscuit and using emma 
we the true champs
571 synch :doro wut da hel:
in one of the cooks i was doing yesterday i could not find a place to biscuit
not mine 
hobo is 601
Yeah, that's the only team double buff SBS loses too imo
Oh 
whale
indeed
How's the pvp kitchen faring tonight? 
known as the Summer Elegg incident
same old same old 
The worse counter is Noise + Noah. Too tanky
Loss? He lost a match?
What was he trying for? 1 copy?
Still more attack than mine 
Basically
And ended with no gems
My BS Scarlet is good but scuffed. Scuffed in that she has two black line chspd... so it's difficult to reroll for higher atk or ele
RIP my BS Scarlet, so I froze it with her current stats
Still pretty good, I get to wow people in coop sometimes with 65k power BS Scarlet 
38k gems and 12 tickets?
That's only 138 pulls or so 
Unlucky if not even one copy though
That looks as the limit unless you want to do 3 rock rolls
Guess I'll start coping with phase 9 as well

The totals I'm "suffering" with 
don't diss 35%, it's still higher than 33%
Oh, my Cindy has 30 like percent
I'm worse brick
Cindy 
thoughts and prayers to Blood's crappy RNG 
the next roll was gonna be 5 eleggs surely
Blood was on good PVP position even 
He can't quit 
Blood! My brick friend will get your place 
Maybe if we get him an Elegg emote 
..... Huh 
Nvm, that emote is good enough 
share more cooks from your friendos
No friendos. We here are just poor EN fighting against the sea of asian tryhards
I just lurk here and comcord
And I lurk jp twitter (jp communicates mostly via twitter) and lurk KR's gaming forum
let's be honest, there are better games he could spend his time on instead, he achieved quite enough on nikke already 
wouldn't surprise me if he decided to get hooked on something else
like love and deepspace
HE'S TRAINING UMAS? 
nah he's not the type 
Blood will get Miyabi while I don't 
waos
like the husbando game?
protect at all costs 

ye he played that and still is iirc

although i bet he's playing something else aside that... i hope 


@keen vapor

Play horse
I spread my resources too thin I think
I could put Pascal in for 3rl but then theres no chance of decent cp
days after u'r still theory crafting
that's sick
This is all units I have homeslice
I run the first 2 rn, im trying to figure out what to do for 3rd

I can't understand Cindy Jackal
Jackal is there for noise to get feed
Thats basically it
Cuz cindy is so damn slow
This is SP?
Yeah
I cant take a battery away from cindy, but I can take centi from helm and replace with a sg or something
2 teams 2RL, 3rd CP pad or throw a SG unit in that
Im doing cp pad rn but its only 50k higher than non cp pad
matter of time then, keep investing 
Cindy is so expensive without helm in her team, I need scarlet
As a global player that has scarlet, i wish you a scarlet.
@gritty ridge
You're a whale tho
I basically just buy mission passes and the occasional gacha skin now
you know how you said I'd need Treasure Helm?
ran into a bit of a problem. im disconnected from the server everytime I try to fight

*every pass and gacha skin
Nah i skipped scar skin(probably why I havent pulled her) and im skipping 2b gacha
Well i dont think im gonna win so...
only Gacha skin I have is scarlet, and the only reason I have it is because I play Stellar Blade
im losing my mind. I don't think ill be able to get treasure helm
WARP?
Also my connection shouldn't be unstable. my wifi is fine, and I am connected via lan cable

okay for some reason I keep re-downloading a 29.33mb update everytime I start
Try repair
I did. Repair found nothing
Clear cache
where would I d othat?
i know the pain
i skipped lot of coops because of that
Craziest part is everything else in Nikke is working. I just can't do Helm's Treasure.
its a sigm
still nothing. im gonna try a full reinstall of NIkke
or try my phone
I've done it. My helm now has her tressure, and at Phase 2
You should have deficit adv with that
Though using Siren P1 w/o Jackal is bad practice
she's p1 cause I swapped crown to p5
didnt want 5 to just get deleted by shotguns
there is no reason I should be beating these people 
I remember when I was in Challeneger
then I dropped Nikke, came back and everyone in my bracket was high level
I need to level up biscuit and add her to one of my defense teams
How do I go about countering this team with about 100k deficit?
Damn, full team SR15 
Could just run 2RL scar Trina nuke
Scar might feed them to 2rl depending on cube/cs
Depending on who taunts i was thinking maybe stun Noah catch scar with noah
thats normal
of course
who would not have a full team with SR15 these days
all my CA units have max doll
and today i made rumani sr10 from SR0 with 50 blues, 10 purples and 10 golds
this weekend or before SR ends she will be SR15
centi got her doll like 2 days ago
Weak
Even my account didn't get elegg and doro through gacha
pull issues?
well you always low on gems 
i got doro in the first 10
onore
rakuen gems in sp?
I pulled 60draw 
Gems in wipeout

Anyone know why when i fight this enemy team, my Mana doesn't activate her revive skill? So battle starts and my Noah dies first and normally Mana will instantly revive Noah but in this fight she will not revive anyone and is not being stunned or killed
i cooked this. What do you think? both teams 3RL. Question is how fast siren stuns if siren stuns fast i can go with biscuit team.But hmmmm blanc will indo sbs when it stunned probably so i need nuke which i don't really have except for ein :/
i am noob but i know Rosanna cancels some stuff(like jackal link) so maybeee that
Yeah me thinks Rosanna too
i could put team without risk of stunning anyone
or biscuit team with siren if siren can stop sbs in time but i feel like blanc would also stop me from doing anything
Out of these 3 teams which one should I choose for the single arena mode? Or I can mix some units into a single better team
Use Team2 for rookie 
ah okay, thanks. I went and read all their skills but nothing really says it stop other skills but must be Rosanna since it never happens against any other teams i have battled
Great, thats the cheesiest one, isnt it? I need to invest more into that Scarlet then.
Thanks
Rosanna strips opponent’s buff. Causes Mana to lose her revive buff
ohhh okay, that makes sense. I forgot Mana revive is a buff
But I have to say, the sg team with only 340k combat power does a great job
oh no @tropic summit I've linked Noise but now LapT isn't linked 
if I bump up LapT atk % then I'll unlink Noise 
Is that OL stats hell I’m hearing?
it is lol
I need both LapT and Noise to have more final atk than Cindy
so I need 25.5% atk on Noise and 9.35% atk on LapT it looks like and then it's barely above the threshold
I'll probably try and add atk % to this on LapT feels like it's possible without removing some of my CS/padded lines
How is that possible
Oh, 45% atk
I was going, Defender got more Atk than Laplace?
yeah it's combo of cindy high atk and lapt none 🙂
How about cores?
Maybe you can get lucky with wishlist pulls if LapT isn’t MCB already. Assuming you have standard pulls saved
noise is a preferable link over lapt though I feel here, lapt could die to sg def and then cindy is linked
LapT is 2* so could get lucky on cores later, but don't have many pulls on ordinary atm
I tend to save them and spend when I have enough to make it worth it + new ordinary units in wishlist
I can still + levels on OL gear as well but will need atk rolls to control it still
4 atk noise is a staple
you basically always want noise to have high atk
lapt a few atk lines is a given
working on it just ran out of rocks 😦
my noise autos do quite respectable dmg

lapt who?
I think my noise is 0 ele as well, maybe 1, don't remember
black line ele changed my plans and cost me some extra rocks lol
was rolling atk onto the gloves just to get over the cindy threshold but I'll lose the ele there doing it
helm will need more rolls later as it's just atk but I can't afford to mess with it for now
helm is someone you wanna keep as low atk as possible
I mean the helm in the gear
for both pve and pvp
yeah for helm I would just temp lock line 1 then fish for another non-harmful line
I was probably just going to full roll it to fish for atk on line 2 or 3 (or at least a good line 3)
but I need the atk stable for the next CA lock in
That's a painful lock
oh she does have an ele line
yeah I don't mind min/maxing a bit where it makes sense
I'd probably just keep the 2 liner with the black line ele + CS
and the atk/cs boots are fine as well for now
Hello I need Help! I need to build a better pvp teams this is what I don’t own, and my current pvp teams.
I can build a lot of units since I have saved resources.
As mentioned, can refer to pins and the recs i gave 
thank youuu
What is going on here, 3 nikke can't take one down? Just kept taking 1 damage, then healing back up, until i lost due to timer(which is also bull).
moran 
"They're immortal, can't defeat that team", got it. Very helpful.
that team can potentially be 3RL as long as you run non feeding teams
-weak to 2RL rosanna
-weak to 2RL helmT stall
since you're going to be in deficit, try to fight it with less than 20% at the very least
you can try
(1) sustain snipe
noah biscuit helmt rh laplace
(if quantum lvl 3, quantum on all beside helmt)
(2) rosanna snipe (riskier due to enemy scarlet s2)
noah biscuit helmt rosanna centi
(3) indom (even more risky because blanc needs to survive enemy scarlet s2)
sbs helmt blanc centi jackal (helmt vigor, blanc temperance)
(4) siren stun (somewat risky but can be mitigated if you can run siren linked)
noah biscuit helmt siren jackal
....yeah, thanks.
Oh really, didn't know she's a unit.
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
or
scarlet trina rh noir jackal
else you're going to need single target DPS
So, not happening.
Let me just...oh right...don't have RH, STILL.
scarlet trina liter noir jackal may also still be lethal
I mean how would I know that lol
you could give it a try
Because i've told you twice.
when?
Nevermind.
Hard for us to to rmb everyone that we've cooked for 
I don't even remember who you are let alone that you don't have RH lol
How about they fix this kind of cheats instead.
Rail has cooked so many meals he could start a restaurant chain
did you see my post earlier about the atk on LapT? absolute shenanigans, I need to boost them both above Cindy 
i've been wary of atk% OLs on both helmt and laplace for that reason
I'm OK with Helm I will probably keep with stall comp anyway
else it starts giving you those headaches
tbh LapT warrants some, she has none atm 😄
ironically i think my liter steals lap+ link
I link noise + cindy atm, it's not as bad I think
noise is a better link than LapT, but more work to do
chances are p1 is hit + noise taunts, so her being linked is the most important one there
if it's the team we were talking about yesterday, then yes you want noise linked for maximun profit
yeah it is, I can get both linked above Cindy just need one more atk roll on both, though lapT needs a 10% ish

buff Liter 😄
this can actually be handy to run her p1 as B1 immune to siren if i cannot run the CS% comp
man that is some work
will keep it around i guess 
yeah for sure, my scar will be vulnerable to siren next CA I think
you've ammo on her?
I'm planning to run with scar/trina/rh next one and no jackal as she's on the other team
oh alright
so I can't do p1 jackal shenanigans
p1 rapunzel exists if you wanna ballsy it
yeah I do, I need to roll off probably, it's 🧱 city in scarlet OL
rapu on my stall 😦
oh nero moran sheningans
yeah
my helm CS is 16% with adjutant atm, I was going to try to roll the last CS for 4th but but I pivoted to noise then ran out of rocks
it should be OK for now but I want to get nearer 20% for stall for next CA if I can
as in one after the next
much left to do still 
Always not enough rocks 

oh mine hasn't arrived yet
Oh right, sorry folks, only now noticed ALL the Enriched folks, gets confusing to know last talked to, guess it was Enriched X i talked to about RH, or two of them :p
Anyway, i might be miffed about the whole moran "cheat"/lose 3v1 due to time malarky, but atleast the rumani boot OL line starts at a good position? 
CS good yes
rumani doesn't need that much beyond CS honestly
don't know if I'd mald changing charge damage off line 1 to something better before reset attributes
I know he would win again lol
Probably, but still got 3 pieces to go, and plenty of gem use spots 😄 It doesn't hurt atleast.
it's 3 rocks per try to change it and rumani is never going to rock the world with her damage
I'd maybe just keep the charge damage line 1
reset attributes 1 rock per go and you can improve on the ele or the cs
think charge damage can range higher as well for cp pad
if siren stun comes in at 196F how long does it last? I wonder if it will run out in time for Blanc to B2 at 3.5RL
what do you make of his teams? I can do similar with drakeT on stall but then I sac my SG dps a bit, but frees up xmaiden for blanc for 3RL
with LapT on cindy comp they're using DrakeT as the flex on stall which adds dps/feed
xmaiden on blanc team means 3 defenders + blanc and siren immune
there are trade offs here, you can swap the flex to say Mana on stall if she's built but you need CS on rapu then to maintain 2.5RL
Are you in the same bracket 
no but I know what teams they ran
both noah and siren stun last for 3 seconds, maybe you can use noah shield line on nikke.work 
It's your alt 
it's not lol (nice if it was) 😄
side question, did their stall face any other stalls in the last few rounds? if so how did the DrakeT one do?
T1 is a waste, he put nonsense to that comp and got lucky only 1 time against proper stall. He def putting those RLs to reach 2.5, not because he really want to
T2 also got lucky with placement where most of the time he go against SG comp, this comp would lose to 2RL or proper stall
T3 Just average Scarlet RH 2RL
T4 DrakeT on stall give enemies' unnecessary feeds, Nero Moran themself already give Jackal 21% feeds, with DrakeT it will be up to 35.5% feeds, not to mention DrakeT will die against Scarlet counter
T5 is decent SG, 2 Iron + Rosa with the hope to kill Scarlet after Rosa dispel Trina and Link
you think t1 is bad? I think linked noise with jackal/lapT and cindy here is pretty strong against most things
for t2 I think most basic sbs indom loses to stall anyway, need RH buff indom sbs to have a chance to cut through the stall properly
but can't use RH with trina if you do that, and the stall comp turns into like 3.5RL or 4RL or so when you add RH with Blanc
t3 as you say fairly standard and you can flex RH out if you can keep 2RL
t4 whilst drakeT does add feed, as you mentioned nero/moran do as well, I guess it's already high feed, your opponent needs to have jackal for this to matter (1/5 chance)
t5 fairly standard sg like you say less drakeT due to the stall comp
You can see this the match up IF I DIDN'T LOST TO CRIT RNG
ah you faced them in the finals?
No, I lost at 16 against RNG that somehow only target my key Nikke smh
It's free slot yeh
rng arena at it's finest I suppose 😄
When will the reshuffly of arenas happen btw? Just curious how much effort i should put towards beating this one person 😄
my experience so far is you don't get massivley reshuffled necessarily
if anything I've seen new people come into my bracket as opposed to old people leaving it from my usual top challenger spots
Yeah same, only one or two peeps left my bracket and went elsewhere, ofcourse the one person who i knew 😄 Ah well, i'll just upgrade murani, helm, and trinny more, not a wasted resource anyway with the tower, hard chapters, and raids needing 25.
iirc reshuffle next season
@covert lintel can you send nozomu's teams , thx
anyone experiment with new doro for pvp?
As SG she just bad, maybe you can pair with Blanc, but that's still a No against Biscuit + Defender
Mid doro 
she a mid?
i thought she was best water damage
...but pvp i get it. had low expectations
burst gen is poor due to not being clip SG, her kit needs time to get going and is anyway single target, she's water code while most meta units are electric... she can be filler SG unit for SG team if you don't have all the usual SG units
is this still the best pvp team ?
they're all beatable not sure what you mean with best
harder to beat compared to others? Yes, CS%, stun gimmics and bursting on 2RL or 2.5RL will generally do better
fellow soda enjoyer 
hi guys, i was looking at the pin, so for the general team if i do not have sparkling anis or emila, who do i replace them with?
post your box makes it easier
I'm good now. Found a better union (requirements wise) so I could be chilling and less stressful now.
If they find I'm not good enough anymore. I know there are many day one clear union around now.
that's good i'm glad
enjoy the game first and foremost, stress free 
these are the characters that i do not owe
when you are talking about box, do you meant this?
hmm i meant the list of your nikke ordered by strength
it allows me to use your best cards instead of guessing
s.anis is a double edged sword anything in SP arena
as for emilia it would've been easier if you her but it's not gonna prevent you from having chances
Better 
4 at a time btw
ye looks good let's see
i see, so basically with SAnis, it becomes a crap shot at who goes first, either you win fast or u get killed fast? there is no in between and for Emilia, she has her own PvP specialty but can still be replaced with someone else?
He's my unionmate now
it's rather, s.anis is peculiar because she's directly countered by scarlet, in fact any SG in SParena is not particularly recommended
the exception maybe is the 2.5RL moran biscuit s.anis option, although she can still be 1 tapped without revive
as for emilia, she can be timed with noah or deleted by rosanna, so she's best used as battery on def
revive? i always thought that revival was a crap skill in PvP , so rapunzel has a use case in there?
keep in mind def is a lost battle, your objective is just to make it hard for opponent to somehow understand what to use agaisnt it
rapunzel is widely used in SParena and CA
particularly in stall oriented teams
the most known being the usual nero moran helmt rapunzel laplaceT
huh, what the heck have i been doing all this time, at least she is relatively build, so i guess i can consider changing my pvp teams
Nah, rapun never be used in SP anymore
Oh shit, no wonder you get stressed
Low level entered top11
Yeah for obvious reasons of you looking at their recruiting notice.
there's a few core issues you should solve before thinking of new teams and that's fixing your utilities
as you can see in SS above, core pvp units are on bottom in terms of invest
@hexed cedar
trina rumani jackal play a vital part for battery purposes
biscuit is an utility that can add invulnerability to defenders
noah is the only 4s whole team invulnerable B2
centi is another battery but seems a tad better invested
i'd say start fixing those then ping this chat again with your updated box, you can then aim for several options
#SP ARENA#
(1) Team 1
ideally you'll want siren with more atk% total than laplace (you can test by running union shooting range and checking the buff "jumping jackal" activating on siren)
the team would be:
siren scarlet trina laplace jackal
(2) Team 2
getting noah to be taunt priority when run with noise will prevent your noah to be countered easily by siren, your noise also happens to be quite uninvested
the team would be
noise noah cinderella helmt centi
noah needs to have 4%ish more CS% than noise to achieve the taunt priority above
(3) Team 3
this is gonna be likely your wildcard, the easist you could achieve is a 3RL indom SBS, won't need much fixing
blanc sbs biscuit drakeT rumani
Not so much, just a bit. But I got stressed from multiple sources so a bit less is better than a bit more.
Top 9 
Good luck with raid. I'm gonna unpinned myself from raid bosses notice now. Almost forgot about it. 
noah, biscuit, jackal are on my to build list once i am done with the current batch of fav item, as for rumani and trina, what makes them core PvP unit?
i know trina is Scarlet booster but what about rumani?
rumani is clip RL which makes her a very strong battery
add to the fact her B1 gives her a huge HP buff, which makes her able to even facetank scarlet
can work also as a taunter of sort depending on needs
the other perk is being a defender which allows her to work with biscuit invulnerability
I see, thank you
no problem, you can work with what i listed above and you can use this as a guideline to where to move to with teams
#pvp-arena message
Japan server has finally been invaded by a cheater
will do and i guess i be back in a couple of months time 😄
and thank you
ye take it slow, start with fixing your utilities as they also add potential for your attack teams
Okay I think I can't access the clean up role comment. So I would assume I already got unchecked from it.
Wasn't used 
You're here 
I'm half dead now and return to be casual Arena player. 
You'll let brick guy take your C3 
Nah, he won't.

Try to join Top 4 unions of your Omni alliance and you would know what is casual. 

oh i'm a real casual tho
Me too
I'm so casual I won't invest water units
ironically it has been more than 3-4 months since i invested in a pve character and it was finally doroS a few days ago 
Yeah, Rail is in an alliance with over 12 different unions.
and somehow didn't get kicked yet 
I'm there for :pepeh: emote
Probably in the lower run of the hill
i guess my elec team and wind team can get a "barely pass" mark though 
oh wait there's also alice and RRH for fire team 
Real casual is me
damn i actually have something for pve built 
I wish I could be you. 
i'm definitely not the one doing the heavylifting
in between average and lower average probably
I mean you probably in their top 8 unions or below.
when they gave me an excel to type down all the core pve units and the atk/ele atk stats i realized i was screwed 
but hey it worked as motivation to fix a few units 
I can't have perfect characters 
eh i wonder
4 ele 4 attack? I could never
Can pull the data from blabla 
i think back when i joined blabla app wasn't out yet
You could check their recruitment notice on this server and check your union name.
Same. We had a sheet with relevant OL lines
Their top 8 has requirements way above your synch level.

I mean, 4 in Global and 4 in SEA, all in top 20 of union raid on both server.
don't reach me
just release those new chapters 

I probably get kicked after i enter that kind of union
Most nikkes are cs speed, even they are not RL or SR
I will reach it with new chapter. Had lots of boxes saved. 
what sync now
true pvper 
Blood also joined for 
More like never get lucky at stat

you could say Blood joined for Blood
Could be 457 but I'm not leveling up
I stuck myself on 454 till I have time to mald 31 boss
Devs should have awarded gems for each top 64 ranked union member. Promote pvp unions 
To be frank I was young and innocent, didn't know which kind of union I should be expected to join.
you were vulnerable but now you're the one that makes people vulnerable 
villain arc for blood has started
🍿
he's no longer the same man
I'm half dead now. So I can't do a thing.
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
At least my level isn't dead but Makima core+7 is a distance dream now.
make a champion arena of UR
So top ranked union from all server regions will compete with each other
Wonder what will be next Collab
That would be cool. But pvp in nikke is an afterthought (look what they did to Bay) 
Could be anything
Rezero 
Okay. Let's stop now. My stress level increased again.
Persona 5 
indeed that's a thing of the past
Or Sword Art Online 
just re:run rezero
SAO would be nice. But such an old IP 
who would you want from SAO tho?
Do u want nikke to be eos?
Collabing with persona 5 is an eos flag
sinnon and leafa?
Sinon, alice?, leafa probably
You say it as if Evangelion rebuilds weren't as old 
It's the past after 1 more year. 
True 

They said a collab with popular IP so I have to stay on guard 
@quick lake how about both
I care about collab bgm more so then collab itself
Is Sinon and Asuna
You can't collab with SAO without Asuna
Most of my home screen bgm are collab ones

asuna is... kinda married you know
Konosuba collab 
at least leafa and sinnon are canonically open 
Maybe BA collab, or Azur Lane 
married doesn’t stop ppl waifuing

it still feel wrong having knees weak for waifu who's married

suguha best girl

good assets


Most relevant would be GFL2 collab tbh. Klukai would be nice 
i see where this is going 
Klukai + Groza banners 
How about kaiju#8?
a fiction being being married to another fictional being doesn’t stop a nonfictional being from simping the said fictional being
No females waifus 
There are 2 females
are you talking from experience
it is pvp channel after all
Rental girlfriend 
oh no 
Raoltracer and rheax online 
you speak as if you've seen a ghost 
Always lurking 👀
We do NOT speak of that abominations
Nope, by theory
Boom boom?
maybe if the show had a different protagonist and less dumb girlfriends 
but anyways, at first arrival, I thought you two were the same guy 
surely 
Nikke collab kiss x sis hear me out
Idk, all IPs feel kinda weird in nikke’s setting
Nikke collab with Panty & Stocking next year
12+ to 17+ instantly
Age exposed 
imagine if that show released today
a man can dream
I've been telling about a collab with Sora No Otoshimono since I got into the server 

limited banners to brick new players in raids is stonks
How can they shoot a gun
Sinon knows shooting
Panty knows shooting
but what do YOU know?
@sleek imp 
i saw that.
I'm the only one who picks collabs that make sense 
Tsukimichi would be good too
Wth
uma shooting raptures
oh this would be nice, but doubt. More likely moshuko tensei or something 

Horse girls with... Cakes?

kiss x sis was built different


Rail in his freaky hour 
of those we got plenty
pg13 family friendly game never fails to deliver
🍿
my old rapi is gone 
they turned her cheeky
Rhias treatment
it starts making sense once your beloved shikikan is flirting with another 80 girls
Totally a 12+ game 
DxD collab
So many lewd IPs 

the cursed one
Queen Bee studio collab
se-gs update finally
it's... something
in a sense you should watch it? in a sense you shouldn't

~~visual novel ~~ eroge in anime form
but the last arc hits differently for reasons 
Let mass vote for this
massive 
into 
Even if we fail it will become a meme great
hmm
based on the reactions i can see many veterans 
Invest
This server is about censor as many words as the ccp does
inches
wincest
intrest
Failed wordle

No
I like the girl with glasses

I fail spelling

you horn
Hanekawa 
that's just his sister what do you mean 

@eager mountain what collab do you want with nikke
Since Liberalio isn’t coming for at least another two years
Leviathan when
Levi and ziz banner soon plz
Levi for new year 

AI 
good eyes
Reminds me of a cursed levi art when she was released
which of the many 
Was not familia friendly




There u go chippai lover
oh think i know which one you meant
adding spoiler just in case
we tend to forget nikke is kinda grim 
too bad campaign stories kinda slow 

it's actually chocolate, nobody thought of licking it off her 
Not this. It was very not familia friendly 


You never saw anything
assuming rrh and alice are linked, you're too slow to inflict lethal before enemy indoms
does siren stun sbs before burst?
this matchup is won by forcing misindom or preventing them from bursting
rosanna or scarlet here would make things easier
i have rosanna but no scarlet
alternatively 2RL generic nuker
pmaid/ein/reit
you could also i suppose go for slower indom sbs
so is siren stun predictable? can i guess when that happens?
at 2RL B2
thing is you stun p1 they still indom, you need to kill p1 and stun blanc it's tedious
how rosanna helps here btw.?
very high chance of misindom and it helps you 1 tap pre enemy burst
your rosanna although looks barely invested anyway
so that card is out of the windows
slow indom would kill your CP
you don't have much to go with here
go with this and pray for the best
assuming you're not in deficit anyway
ehh helm still not tresaured 😄 it is just rookie so i can pick someone else
but i was beating this guy before but i guess he made it harder now
Hey @tropic summit I just got treasure helm. Is she worth slotting in ?
absolutely, best battery in the game
Ooh that's what you're talking about lol
s1 lvl 10 phase 2 minimun
Yes I have that
ye then she's good to go
Should she be placed team 3?
this still your box ye?
Yesm!
this is someone i would love to beat. I tried once but completly misunderstood how bay works. but that T1 has low cp so maybe it can be crushed with that?
go with this for now
hmmm
Thank you kindly! My t2 has been my most consistent 
P2 is enough right?
i know this has beaten t2
but this lost to t1 cause i tought bay just protects from nukes but didn't know about need of burst for that
thing is you're too slow for that
you really need helm treasured asap
yeah now i know 😄
i would switch her for anything usefull since he doesn't do anything
how's CP with this
T1 is fine what about T2
oh looks good
so this beats him?
T2 is gonna be close because you're gonna have to dig all the way to RH
if you kill RH then they cannot burst anymore
if anything it's worth a shot, record it if you want to
yeah i will just do it at the end of the day so he can't retaliate
i am comfortable top6 and just wanna tackle top 2 for fun
ye i think these 2 teams have a chance
what you looking at is:
T1
-both teams burst on 2RL (you're promoted to 2RL via jackal regardless)
-bay absorbs scarlet nuke
-you'll hit jackal hard with alice, especially once she starts bursting, which hits jackal helmt and scarlet for shared damage
-should win the trade
T2
-you've crown going invulnerable while they lose noise and possibly rouge
-if RH does get to burst, she does b1 b2 and b3 on her own, she should die before she can do much damage
-you can then finish them off
imo I think so. it's confirmed that dmg share for phase 3 is only after 20 secs passes so 
I'll change to tove then
Is there any specific counter to stun?
depends who is the stun
I just beat a priv b3 team which was weird
Poli might want that phase 3
Priv stun is usually slow and low dps
no echo it's poopy 

