pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

where some bits of common sense resist yeah

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[tropic summit]

i do not give tips when i eat at restaurants or w/e

[keen vapor]

I see

I get it now
Sopa café

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor @quick lake @placid bloom what was the minimun CS% difference needed to ensure noah in p2 does not steal noise p1 taunt priority?

i seem to remember

noise p1
noah p2 = only need around 4%CS more

noise p1
noah p5 = may need slightly more than 4%CS

[glad meteor]

I can’t say for sure. I assume 1 frame diff

[tropic summit]

oh so potentially even just 1%

[placid bloom]

p5 lands faster no?

Or is this attacker side

[tropic summit]

ye let's assume:

noise noah cindy helmt rumani

opponent:

jackal siren flex flex flex

if noise p1 and noah p2, if noah 13%CS and noise 15%CS, i assume noah has taunt priority

if noise p1 and noah p2, if noah 17%CS and noise 15%CS, i assume noise has taunt priority?

if noise p1 and noah p5, how large must the CS% be?

[placid bloom]

I would have to check how the rounding works since I don’t know if 1% cs will change 1 frame

[glad meteor]

Can’t really look at it through cs. But frame

[placid bloom]

It will depend if you hit the next frame cutoff

[tropic summit]

i wanted to essentially see if with just an adjutant cube i could decide on needs who i can give taunt priority

hmm ok 11%, 15% and 18% seem to be the thresholds i should play with

gonna need noah to be on 18% or kill 1 line on noise to drop her to 11%

or adjutant cube and screw it

[placid bloom]

uh p5 still lands faster even on attacker side, Idk why I thought it mattered

[fathom rock]

I dont roll mid unit

[glad meteor]

Nier collab is not stonks

[fathom rock]

Sir i have to pay before i can use a pc

[glad meteor]

Time to take our pulls away to make up for nier loss

[tropic summit]

good i skip too

@placid bloom @glad meteor looks like i'm actually good as is

noah appearently gets to B2 in time even without having to mess further with lines

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[tropic summit]

if i'm getting it right?

now all i need to do is test it

3 clip RLs on high CS% seem to be enough

[glad meteor]

Maybe you can test. But looks like it

[tropic summit]

that's 1 team fixed for CA at least

now to get siren linked...

oh right i didn't check if i put noah in p5

let's see how it changes

looks like no difference

@placid bloom am i understanding this correct?

[glad meteor]

just take mine

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-doro-gif-1027805425862452031

[fathom rock]

How much cs?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

you can see in the squares

[fathom rock]

Usable

[tropic summit]

oh wow stronk

[glad meteor]

Higher atk than helmt lol

[fathom rock]

1 line?

[tropic summit]

this frame thingie is really powerful tho

[tropic summit]

noise 17%
rumani 20%
noah 13%

[fathom rock]

I cant read this

[tropic summit]

noah 1 blue line, noise 3 blue lines, rumani 3 blue lines

[tropic summit]

think of it as a timeframe where each RL and frame is traced

you can also see when rosanna or noah or siren gimmicks apply

with this specific team and CS%, i can land B2 before sirens stuns

this is also irrelevant from where i put noah, which means i can use her in p5 to avoid splash or p2 to share splash

this is good for eventual siren + SG teams as i can use noah anywhere

[glad meteor]

the stun in x axis means siren stun

[fathom rock]

My noah has 3 cs but no one else does, helm 0 cs

[tropic summit]

this

@fathom rock

[fathom rock]

4 ele 4 cdmg helm

[glad meteor]

The points show the nikke hit in their repective line

[tropic summit]

the blue dot is before stun happens, that's B2 cast point

would be nice if i can make a team for blanc in p1 to also cast pre stun

[glad meteor]

gets rosanna sg’d

[tropic summit]

yeah she'd run with biscuit in that case

[fathom rock]

Dis why i dont main pvp

[tropic summit]

it's hell.

[glad meteor]

Blanc emi bisc I guess

[tropic summit]

not emi but i was thinking other options, although not for CA

[glad meteor]

hard without sac helm in that team

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-doro-gif-16740680752299771223

well next step then siren

[fathom rock]

I can try to cook 2rl emi noah in spa, probably have en3cs on biscu but have to discard helmT she too slow

[gritty ridge]

Im thinking of building these as my main 2 spa defenses, any thoughts?

[tropic summit]

nice trina indom

[keen vapor]

You didn't used free abnormal vouchers

[tropic summit]

the second team is ok

[fathom rock]

Is trina jack lined also rhb3?

[gritty ridge]

Trina can be any battery tbh

[fathom rock]

I did and got..... Nothin!

[tropic summit]

no it was sarcasm, you're gonna indom trina

also biscuit and jackal in same team is kind of a waste

[fathom rock]

Not if she jack link

[tropic summit]

then again if attack teams it's fine

[shell hazel]

mein mermaid desu

[gritty ridge]

I thought p1 blanc needed biscuit

[shell hazel]

I need to re-roll the atk % on the helm but it's 3 rocks a try

[tropic summit]

b1 blanc is bad because of siren nowdays

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

obviously if you're attacking you can make sure you don't run her against that

[gritty ridge]

Hmmm, so can I not use rh indom on defense then?

[tropic summit]

but ye p1 blanc needs biscuit or being jackal linked

[tropic summit]

you can, just hope opponent doesn't use google

[gritty ridge]

Google ai might help me actually

[glad meteor]

🫡

[placid bloom]

do you care about the taunt prio? Because if you don't think it makes no difference where you put them as long as you B2 before burst

could be p1 Noah for all you care

[tropic summit]

the whole point there is to actually eliminate the need of taunt priority

[placid bloom]

yeah then it doesn't matter once you reach the required cs

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

from what i understand with those CS% it is now irrelevant because siren cannot stun in time

so 1 problem fixed

[placid bloom]

taunt prio only matters for sub-11% cs

[shell hazel]

pretty strong but charge speed 😄

[tropic summit]

yep

[fathom rock]

I aint fixing that

[shell hazel]

I gotta roll mine some more just rocks, one more piece on HelmT and then I can spare rocks for CS on my batteries etc

I posted it earlier but am happy with 3 of the 4 pieces on her now

just gotta sort the helm lock atk and go for ele + CS %

[fathom rock]

Just need ele on glove

[shell hazel]

I ain't fixing that 😄

[gritty ridge]

Would this be alright on defense?

[tropic summit]

is this rookie or sp arena

[gritty ridge]

Sp

[tropic summit]

what do the other teams look like

[shell hazel]

I'll just have to live on 60 odd % ele I can't afford to roll the gloves lightly atm

[gritty ridge]

Also Noah isnt 15% I just clicked it to emphasize faster cs than noise

[shell hazel]

too much other stuff I want to roll for

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge the golden rule you need to remember:

-your defense is as good as your 2 worse teams

if you commit a single strong team, that one is skipped and bye bye your defense

noah and jackal together is a really huge commit

[gritty ridge]

And then cp team 3 was my idea for now

[tropic summit]

so you pad team 3

what's the CP of these 2 teams compared to your padded t3

[fathom rock]

Opinions?

[gritty ridge]

It'll be abt 220k ish each and then around 250k team 3

[tropic summit]

you're not CP gapping them

14,9%

[tropic summit]

then t3 is not a cp pad, just a weak team

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

250k is defeatable by 211k which is less than your meta teams

[gritty ridge]

I dont have the resources for 3 strong teams

[tropic summit]

ya

regardless those 2 others teams are good

but one of them will be skipped, the other will be noah'ed or indommed, the other scarlet'ed

[fathom rock]

Raised to 446 tho thats not the plan

[tropic summit]

that assuming opponent knows what they doing anyway

[gritty ridge]

Only 2 people in my bracket have good teams

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't go with that team

[gritty ridge]

The number 1 and the number 3

[tropic summit]

you sure you optimizing?

[tropic summit]

then you can run it

[gritty ridge]

And they both have built nero moran funnily enough

[tropic summit]

give it a shot and see how it does

[tropic summit]

they can use google

[gritty ridge]

Im not gonna commit to nero moran for a while

Expensive

[fathom rock]

This acc has 3 pvp invest unit
Jack
Scar
Helm

Put liter for cp over rumani? I worry about burst gen tho

Their cindi p1

[tropic summit]

show me whole matchup and even just your first 2-3 lines

can't cook without sauce

[gritty ridge]

Id probably run this team 3 if I could

But im missing pepper and viper

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

I could do this if I had t.tove

[fathom rock]

You think thisll last 3rl?
I mean it worked for me but it sucks as def

[gritty ridge]

No

But it would be funny

[tropic summit]

quantum 3 right?

[fathom rock]

Thats too much expectations lemme checj

[sleek imp]

wait what

[grand plaza]

@shell hazel most vote for defender but I kinda feel like

1 - 2 - 2 - 1 -1

match 2-3 pretty guaranteed but others (especially 4) not that much, looks like attacker win tho. I am not sure tbh

[gritty ridge]

Sopa I hope we meet in ca👉👈

[sleek imp]

You dont want tove in your pvp trust me

[fathom rock]

Lv4

[sleek imp]

I wont be there

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

can I meet with you guys

[placid bloom]

Sopa needs to go on his training arc

[sleek imp]

Please no

[tropic summit]

oki your teams are on the left

[gritty ridge]

No

[fathom rock]

🥩

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Stay away

[tropic summit]

🍰

[glad meteor]

Meat off

Rail bought the cake

[tropic summit]

sausage party?

[umbral belfry]

[sleek imp]

how big of a wall is 36? how long you stuck there for

[placid bloom]

not long because I built MAnchor beforehand

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock ensure your naga doesn't steal scarlet link, sopa earlier just showed us a siren stealing scarlet's jackal link

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna cruise through 36

I have sr15 manchor

[sleek imp]

how do you define "built"? maids dont have strict OL requirement, I have her full olled and dolled

[gritty ridge]

Whats her skills?

[placid bloom]

1 month MC, 1 month Behemoth, 2 weeks BS, 2 weeks Gluttony or something like that

[sleek imp]

10/10/7

[placid bloom]

was my stuck timings

[gritty ridge]

Yeah u should be good

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/training-arc-training-gif-498925728792454905

[gritty ridge]

Strong manchor

[sleek imp]

wait I got stuck on mc for 1 month too

[tropic summit]

what a coincidence

[shell hazel]

Rail you ready to take on a new student in Sopa?

[tropic summit]

oh even CP looks good

[sleek imp]

actually crazy tho, got there at cp 250, left at 310

[tropic summit]

i already whipped him today

[placid bloom]

yeah well you gonna need 360k for Behemoth

[shell hazel]

the whippings will continue until morale improves

[tropic summit]

@sleek imp i saw it

[placid bloom]

that thing is a steel wall

[sleek imp]

I have reading problem I swear

[gritty ridge]

I could run this but cp would suffer

[placid bloom]

not even a brick wall

[fathom rock]

Naga steal jacklink

[tropic summit]

you tested it beforehand right

[placid bloom]

it's like reinforced steel

[tropic summit]

you didn't test in production like my customers do right

[placid bloom]

with anti-theft protection

making sure you can't get past

[fathom rock]

Nah i double checked before match im experienced

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

alright get a flex that doesn't steal link

[shell hazel]

speaking of training arcs I'm sending bsoda on one right now

[tropic summit]

mari grave crown

[fathom rock]

Sdoro?

[tropic summit]

she doesn't steal it? she's attackerino

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

and she's pretty and waifu

[placid bloom]

maybe at 0 OL and no doll she doesn't steal

[sleek imp]

no way this is a 12+ game while uma is 17+

[gritty ridge]

What %2rl do you need for jackal to reliably get you there?

[fathom rock]

All her buff in fb and after 80 pellet

[tropic summit]

you'd think of the opposite

[shell hazel]

friendly for all the fam

[tropic summit]

alrighty i'll trust your judgemento

[shell hazel]

it's because uma has gambling in it

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-running-oops-wrong-way-gif-7939302

[sleek imp]

every system in nikke is all RNG, and RNG = Gamble

[tropic summit]

you may be fed to 2.5RL at least

[glad meteor]

Siren dying before stun right

[tropic summit]

with good chances siren is dead pre 3RL

let alone you're hitting in p2 thanks to strategically placed enemy cindy

might aswell be 2RL

[tropic summit]

lovely bricked scarlet being ran with indom

reloaded like 5 times

ironically the first team took barely any dmg

you'd think you gapped them

[fathom rock]

[scarlet adder]

do i win?

[umbral belfry]

retro's pvp arc

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

haha... 581k

[fathom rock]

And this is why i dont pvp invest on alt

[tropic summit]

that's 491k minimun CP

might aswell just commit sudoku

[sleek imp]

poor Laplace

[glad meteor]

[fathom rock]

T1 deficit
T2 yes

[umbral belfry]

your t1 looks like it's cp gapped

[fathom rock]

Your beloved kr dude

[umbral belfry]

but with so much feed, maybe?

[scarlet adder]

what if i switch them?

[tropic summit]

show box moro, makes it easier

[fathom rock]

Dis look winnable

[tropic summit]

ideally show all 3 teams as you migh've missed a few abusable details

[fathom rock]

Manchor

[fathom rock]

No chance

[tropic summit]

433k, 457k (minimun)

[glad meteor]

These na people love anchor for some reason

[fathom rock]

I can see why

[scarlet adder]

i know thats why i skipped this one

[tropic summit]

this team "only" needs 159k

[tropic summit]

the good thing of these 2 is that their B1 is in the worst position they could choose and are awfully slow

@scarlet adder box and we can defeat these

this is still good?

#pvp-arena message

[scarlet adder]

my box is not the greatest 😄

[umbral belfry]

nyeheh

[scarlet adder]

helm still not treasured 😦

[umbral belfry]

I opened my boxes today bc I was able to hit 361

[shell hazel]

you're cheating though!

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

361 boost

[umbral belfry]

goodbye my boxes

[shell hazel]

I don't have enough I checked

[glad meteor]

when you catch up to me in sync

[shell hazel]

I have like 10 levels worth of cd but maybe only 5 on bd

[fathom rock]

2xspender

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

Winnable?

[shell hazel]

free 2 pay

😄

[scarlet adder]

yeah still this

[umbral belfry]

t1 may be cp gapped idk

[glad meteor]

can you 5SG left team

[umbral belfry]

Mari stunned is oof though

[fathom rock]

It is

[umbral belfry]

could easily just move her and naga though

[fathom rock]

Not anymore

[fathom rock]

Did so

[tropic summit]

not sure if my is enough for how this is

[shell hazel]

I decided for now I'll build bsoda and manchor Hime for my sg team I can use both in pve as well

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

oh what is that T2

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna assume you don't have jackal bc t1 would be free eats

[fathom rock]

Something within cp range

[shell hazel]

it's free if you stole the money from your place of employment

[umbral belfry]

no cores

[fathom rock]

Too little power

[tropic summit]

ye but at least give em a jackal

campaign team + jackal with your attacker in p1

[shell hazel]

we both lack cores Hime, I hope to MLB some day 😦

[fathom rock]

?

[umbral belfry]

one day we will be mlb moran havers

[shell hazel]

move naga out of p2 imo, put her p3 or p4

[shell hazel]

also you may want to check who jackal links with as well

[tropic summit]

assuming by investiment alice and rrh are your linked at least

knowing you...

[shell hazel]

easiest way is to boot the team into a mock battle

pause it and check who gets jackal buff

[fathom rock]

Simple math shows sbs and alice same exact atk gotta do deep math

[tropic summit]

jesus

[shell hazel]

or boot into a mock battle 😄

[tropic summit]

mock battle time it is

go in union range and just look who gets jumping jackal buff

[shell hazel]

yeah that or AI mock

[tropic summit]

it's applied at start so it takes a sec

[fathom rock]

Sbs higher by 20 atk

[tropic summit]

@scarlet adder moro i see you placed a thump up on Retro's team, these are yours though...

[scarlet adder]

aa sorry 😄 it's late night where i live 😄

[tropic summit]

no worries just ensuring you don't run wrong teams by accident

[fathom rock]

Like he has xmaiden to do such mistake

[bitter cipher]

@keen vapor For Nero and Moran, what’s the skill prio again?

[keen vapor]

Max and max

[fathom rock]

If i bond alice enough she higher by 5 atk, @tropic summit sbs or alice?

[shell hazel]

starting point

[tropic summit]

bah both are decent B3s

[oblique ridge]

The real PvP chef

[keen vapor]

Well, I never maxed skill 1 for moran

[tropic summit]

SBS early nuke will probably kill something, alice will start sustaining instead

[bitter cipher]

Oki
-# Hi Echolocation, how’re you?

[keen vapor]

-# Headache

[bitter cipher]

You’re sick again?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sick-slap-jealous-anime-get-q-ell-gif-12444851

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit who wins this CA ?

[umbral belfry]

it's rail

[fathom rock]

@glad meteor how fast will he beat me back

[keen vapor]

I don't like how I'm weak to sun days

[tropic summit]

you speak as if you're stopping here
show who's next

[bitter cipher]

The weekends must be horrible for you then

[tropic summit]

ch1 or go home @fathom rock

[keen vapor]

yes

[gritty ridge]

Who wins

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burning-whos-next-gif-17943681

[bitter cipher]

Nero and Moran OLs?

[keen vapor]

Wth, RNG

[glad meteor]

[sleek imp]

thats a FIRE roster at that sync

[glad meteor]

He wasn’t schzo last I checked so thats nice

[umbral belfry]

new NA baby bracket where

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor making progress

now to get her with helmT or laplace in same team...

[glad meteor]

Wut

[fathom rock]

Why did you think i didnt pick pvp

[glad meteor]

That char guy

[umbral belfry]

Moro finals are like low 180s

[keen vapor]

No real preference until shift Up changes how def works

You might want to avoid max ammo on moran however

[gritty ridge]

I think i have a chance, im a slightly faster 4rl

[tropic summit]

wait, that ch2 would've been beatable if you invested

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-pepe-pepe-the-frog-frog-triggered-gif-6510851310649639069

[glad meteor]

That char guy is a whale and gemmed

[tropic summit]

you could be ch2 @fathom rock

[umbral belfry]

[bitter cipher]

NA account?

[glad meteor]

i saw

[tropic summit]

dafuq is that

[umbral belfry]

I've beaten two of them before (aria 3x). gimme the other one

[fathom rock]

No shot

[fathom rock]

Ok whale

[tropic summit]

you're still in time...

[gritty ridge]

Me vs the whale in my rookie

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

NA whale territory

[bitter cipher]

@fathom rock Journey for you and Temp to be ch 2 and 3 respectively when?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/shirogane-anime-funny-what-huh-gif-2189181305159165492

[fathom rock]

Temp?

[tropic summit]

retro could be ch2 but he's slacking

although attacking and holding ch2 is gonna be a different story

[umbral belfry]

wait, retro in ca

[wheat violet]

Does anyone know comp that can fight against Noise, Noah, sbs, centi, Helm?

[fathom rock]

Youre gonna have me commit deadly sins to hold this shit

[shell hazel]

retro in CA when?

[tropic summit]

for real

the real gemmening

[bitter cipher]

I’m finally committing. I’m switching my teams to god comp, stall, and scar nuke that I’ve been putting off. I’ll suffer for credits later sure, but I’d rather keep the gem flow high. I ain’t aiming for CA cause ik I’m gonna get cooked so bad.

[umbral belfry]

siren scar that man

[bitter cipher]

Tempest/Alex

[fathom rock]

Noah biscuit emilia redhood helmTp2

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

do you've emiia or laplace treasure?

[gritty ridge]

Where do I put siren to stun his crown

[fathom rock]

He can't take if im there

[shell hazel]

siren always attacks p1 unless taunted

so you're already going to stun crown

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

a believer

[gritty ridge]

Even in p5?

[shell hazel]

yes

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

most people attack p1 unless some specific rule or condition

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna record it and send here

[bitter cipher]

So attack and ele on both. Ammo is fine on Nero but not Moran. Should I switch to def for both as third lines or nah?

[wheat violet]

Got laplace treasure

[tropic summit]

quantum lvl 3?

[wheat violet]

Yep

[shell hazel]

SG's on def will attack p5

some weird targets with RH/Snipers in general as well on occasion

[bitter cipher]

El oh el. He had to try at least once vv

[tropic summit]

your team is on the left, helmt treasured phase 2 s1 lvl 10 minimun and the quantum below to hit 2RL

[fathom rock]

I believe one of aria comps are 600k

[shell hazel]

Ros will burst and hit 2 highest attackers etc

[keen vapor]

You don't choose your third line

Third lines chooses you

[bitter cipher]

[shell hazel]

you don't want ammo on moran?

[keen vapor]

She taunts on last bullet fired

[shell hazel]

I've been slacking on rolling mine more than what I started with

[bitter cipher]

[shell hazel]

I see 🙂

[gritty ridge]

It went terrible

[coarse lake]

I was gonna ask you to test comps but with 40 sync diff I don't think it'll help much

[shell hazel]

!

[fathom rock]

Rail must think im sick in the head

[shell hazel]

no ammo by pure luck lol

[keen vapor]

You may use it

You may not

Preferable to avoid but not the end of the world like with Summer anis

[tropic summit]

we talked about this several times already bigboi, that's CP deficit, you're on 17.1%

[bitter cipher]

So third ol for both can be whatever, got it

[gritty ridge]

I thought deficit for pvp was 18, my b

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy team score for 0.846 and you find out the minimun

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

that's ABC

[wicked horizon]

Think I can deal with his swapped out T2 as well?

[keen vapor]

You knew I'm level bricked

[gritty ridge]

Nah biscuit makes me nlt care abt deficit

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit ill beat ch26 thwn see tf you want me to get myself in

[gritty ridge]

If I had biscuit I wouldve won

[tropic summit]

they won't get indom going, it will leave blanc alive

[fathom rock]

Thats a beeg deficit

[tropic summit]

then you just murder her afterward

and ye 21% deficit @wicked horizon

replace centi with laplaceT or someone on clip SG burst gen tier and good CP

[shell hazel]

the game should really flag deficit better

[tropic summit]

no don't

wait 1 month so i can join you

[fathom rock]

Yeah that way im not accidentally doing 43% deficit in campaign

[fathom rock]

Bro this is my alt ch26

[tropic summit]

oh you meant ur alt

thought you were going for le mc

[fathom rock]

I guarantee you both of us stand 0 chance till 481-501

[tropic summit]

once new chaps hit i'm gonna go 441 and murder that thi- oh.

[fathom rock]

501 is no built ein

[tropic summit]

wait you must've ein for this?

[wicked horizon]

Isn't Laplace just gonna attack the invuln Blanc for too long?
The other option is this fight:

[fathom rock]

She does a lot of heavy lifting but you can get away with helm mmast

[tropic summit]

i mean i can build her buuuuuuuuut

https://tenor.com/view/kuroneko-oreimo-ruri-gokou-ruri-disappointed-gif-21085061

[fathom rock]

There is the chance they have cs and you get totally screwed

[tropic summit]

mmast... right... i guess ein it is

[fathom rock]

No you invent a helm team

[tropic summit]

that's 2RL cindy, you might wanna get indom running instead

[wicked horizon]

No deficit, but if Cindy survives, I won't.

[tropic summit]

that scares me greatly

[fathom rock]

Youll have 60 sync to think about it

[tropic summit]

oh ye

plenty of time for sure

[gritty ridge]

I cant beat them in rookie, but spa is a different story

[wicked horizon]

I mean, if I could somehow Blanc, SAnis, and not be late, but that's too much to ask for.

[tropic summit]

nah

sbs helmt blanc flex jackal

[fathom rock]

I hope sbs can kill decoy on time

[wheat violet]

What is use of Poli now that she got fav item?

[wicked horizon]

HelmT is currently in the other team.

[gritty ridge]

How much cp can I expect from r0 to r15 on my jackal?

[fathom rock]

Being ran by whales as a p1 tank for sg team in ca

[fathom rock]

But thsts noahless

[tropic summit]

and that was with noise DR

[tropic summit]

the topic was about the decoy

SBS shreds cindy in around 4s

[fathom rock]

We pray cs doesnt screw this

Cant hit or get to decoy if its immune

[tropic summit]

i mean he can run indom scarlet with siren

[wheat violet]

ah right sg team but what are they good against in pvp?

[fathom rock]

Btw torn said he helmT in other comp

[tropic summit]

ye he doesn't show other matches

and i magically know what they look like

[fathom rock]

Heavy single target dmg with functional burst gen

[wicked horizon]

3rd is same as last time

[tropic summit]

3rd as in their 3rd team?

[wicked horizon]

Yes, and mine.

[tropic summit]

ok

[wheat violet]

Like Emilia?

[fathom rock]

Emilia is an aoe delayed nuker with high burst gen

[tropic summit]

T3 is also weak to indom or bay

[tropic summit]

T2 is not doable at all? i don't remember it

[wheat violet]

Right

[tropic summit]

then again you know what, let's just s.anis it

[tropic summit]

oh that one

[wicked horizon]

My best guess would be to just try T2 as shown, but it's not a very high chance of success, I feel.

[tropic summit]

and this one you were CP gapped?

even with laplaceT or xmaiden?

if you run siren it's guaranteed wipe

they're B2ing with RH

you're fed to 2RL

looks easy to me

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, only 10k more CP with La+ or XMaid

[tropic summit]

run this as long as you're not CP gapped

[wheat violet]

Can you send me link of this?

[tropic summit]

it's in the pins under the burst gen sheets, else use this https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[fathom rock]

Nikke tcg

[wicked horizon]

Always CP gapped. =)

[tropic summit]

you kidding me

[wicked horizon]

Might work, might not.

[tropic summit]

show the matchup with the above

@glad meteor it is done

siren linked with helmt in

[wheat violet]

Any replacement for Trina?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

trina is a unique buffer for scarlet

if you intend as a battery, then centi, noah, anis, rumani

if you intend as a B2 buffer for scarlet, there's nothing like it

the closest would be blanc + RH or mari + RH

[wheat violet]

I'm just trying to run your squad and don't have Trina

[tropic summit]

there's no trina there

noah biscuit rh helmt laplacet

[fathom rock]

Ill hope this never happen again

[wheat violet]

This?

[wicked horizon]

Sorry, was hunting a mosquito.

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rh helmt laplacet

[tropic summit]

20% deficit

that's rough

[wicked horizon]

Little shit has been keeping me awake for an hour.

[wheat violet]

Laplace in another team with RH and Helm

[wicked horizon]

Between the insane heat and the buzzing...

[tropic summit]

then you gonna have to post the 3 matchups

[tropic summit]

how about this

(CP wise)

[tropic summit]

oh ok this looks easier

[wicked horizon]

No built Bay

[tropic summit]

run indom for T3 then, keep team as is for T1

sbs helmt blanc xmaiden jackal
use rumani instead of jackal in T1

helmt with vigor so you're guanrateed to indom SBS

blanc with temperance

[tropic summit]

so uh for this one

[wicked horizon]

That's two HelmTs

[tropic summit]

scarlet poli siren laplace jackal
noah biscuit helmt rh emilia

[tropic summit]

just get 2RL via jackal or helmt you got the drift

2RL indom and 2RL s.anis

[wicked horizon]

On the bright side, I think I finally got the mosquito.

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor ok set

was actually easier than i thought, 40% atk makes it really simple

[glad meteor]

Cookig

[tropic summit]

thank you kara for the tips

now for the next CA im rdy

the cherry on top would be to get soda ready but i cba

that's a different beast

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/soda-soda-twinkling-bunny-egg-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-13095409696319056632

[wicked horizon]

That won. Thanks.
Maybe now I can finally sleep...
For 5 hours before I need to get to work again.

[tropic summit]

good job, glad it worked

get your deserved sleep and get to the weekend

[gritty ridge]

Do skill levels matter for pvp on most units or can I leave everyone 1 1 1

[tropic summit]

the budget approach is 4/4/4
some units although need skill levels to properly function

scarlet 10/x/10
trina 4/7/7
blanc 4/4/7
cindy 10/10/10

are some example

you can find the recommended skill levels on prydwen

[gritty ridge]

Cindy 10 10 10? Thats scary

I like my 10 7 10 cindy

I figured b3 would need skills, but units like Noah, biscuit, and jackal are low investment hopefully

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/all-in-gif-8238349

[gritty ridge]

Nah i still have a few units I need to level skills for pve

Not many but a few

Bready and manchor namely

[umbral belfry]

bready

[raven plover]

for sniky

[gritty ridge]

Snek and volleyballs cuz no sbs

[shell hazel]

mine probably does this already 😄

what's the goal with this? scarlet won't do counters without being on the link

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/dNDTsiDyNaE?si=RQF8yyI3aH5Kk80o

[wicked horizon]

Mosquito was not dead.
Or there was one more hiding in the corner.
But it's dead now.

And the guy casually gained 14 levels after knocking me back.

Maybe it's a sign to stop.

[fickle jetty]

he changed his defense team
i think this one could beat that team? if mermaid stun noah

[raven plover]

couldve won t1 if bay wasnt bugged

[oblique ridge]

It was still bugged?

[oblique ridge]

Looks like you were robbed twice.

• Emilia suddenly died, it looks like she took a shot from Cinderella?
• Scarlet in Jackal link spontaneously dropped from about 60% hp to 0% hp once enemy Mihara died

[oblique ridge]

They fixed Bay and I don’t see Bay in the fight…?

Or it influenced him into not using Bay?

[umbral crown]

we gotta beat Reiclair

[umbral crown]

next season with an spicy cook

[umbral crown]

bay got fixed in less than 24h

[spiral onyx]

Yeah my Emilia team is too fast, Noah shield expired too early lol
The Mihara nuke feels like a bug somehow. Need to test it out. I could have just been unlucky that Scarlet got targeted

[raven plover]

apparently bay fix changed how dmg calculation is done

sauce here
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=44677012

pre bay fix, noah should totally block that cindy burst, because the snapshot happen on immune, dmg calculation "doesnt continue", which make the rest dmg turn into 0 even after noah burst ended

after bay fix, the dmg calculation "still going / continue" even after noah shield gone, which pretty much what happened on keripo vid, at least thats what I understand from the article above

[oblique ridge]

Wdym, Cindy burst lasted? I thought it ended already before Noah invincible dropped?

[raven plover]

keripo already said it, he burst earlier, but yea its like what I said above, and apparently the bottom one (current) is the right one

its also why noah biscuit no longer hard counter sbs

[oblique ridge]

You can see everyone’s alive and the Immunes ended

Here is right after the flashy Cindy burst animation ends

And though the team looks “top” it’s actually looking at Keripo’s team

[raven plover]

ye cindy is multiple ticks, so I guess the last few ticks hit the team

before bay fix that should be nullified just how noah biscuit null sbs dmg

[oblique ridge]

This is a moment later, and then

One or two more moments Emilia dies

Actually, Centi takes a lot of damage hmm

[oblique ridge]

Seems like it

[quick lake]

so cindy dmg is done live/dynamically now…?

[oblique ridge]

I actually I thought it was a basic attack shot from Cindy that killed Emilia, but it’s looking more like the final few ticks clipped Emilia and team after Noah invincible

This is weird though. I’m not used to it. I thought Cindy burst was over in under like 0.5s

Not what feels like 2+ seconds

So if I track when enemy team bursts (Noise), it’s literally right when Emilia finishes bursting (same time)

In other words, Keripo’s B3 bursted right as enemy’s B1 bursted

Or if not bursted, then the heal ticked from Noise’s burst. That would mean her burst was about a second ago?

So looks like… if it’s not heal tick, then there was a significant gap in timing, Keripo was too fast

[raven plover]

for noah biscuit vs sbs, with the explanation above, pre bay fix sbs dmg on immune noah is nullified cus dmg calculation "stops" there, making dist dmg become 0

and after bay fix, the dmg calculation "continue", only those immune receive no dmg while dist dmg still calculated after

[oblique ridge]

I guess that’s the drawback of, Emilia

Because, Emilia can’t end the enemy team the moment she bursts

It gave the much slower Cindy team time to put up their slowass Noah (and Cindy) burst

So even if Cindy hadn’t killed Emilia, it seems like Emilia would still hit Noah invincible

[oblique ridge]

I see

[quick lake]

oh what, SBS win against Taunting immune defender now?

[raven plover]

munch made a thread in #1047834307550519338 right

[oblique ridge]

SBS now kills team protected by Nero and Moran, RIP

[raven plover]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1395785592494886923

technically speaking its hard to def against sbs blanc now

[quick lake]

I just saw it. wtf thats huge

[quartz rover]

I just got baited by biscuit

[quick lake]

Time to change teams next season

[quartz rover]

[quick lake]

bay broke pvp

[quartz rover]

stupid biscuit

[quick lake]

indom sbs next season leggo

[quartz rover]

why isnt my rapi that good

[oblique ridge]

Wow, and now Helm/lifeleech heals the team even if they’re shooting invulnerable targets

Such nonsense makes Frima squirm in her sleep

[quick lake]

Pretty game breaking bugs

[raven plover]

Im planning this yea, they dont say anything about it I feel like its "the right" one now

[quick lake]

Helm bursting is way more valuable now, and SBS is top tier dps now

right next to Cindy and Scar

[oblique ridge]

Yep

[quartz rover]

so I should use sbs now

how do I use sbs to my advantage

[spare nimbus]

Help on team 2 and 3, my scarlet, siren, trina, centi, jackal team lost against his team 2

[valid inlet]

Add the screenshots of cp/doll levels here for reference. Here is my guess:

T1: defender SG team has better chance since it attacks from behind of Jackal less Scarlet team. But depends on whether Siren can be killed before b1 and whether Rosanna can kill Scar

T2: My Cindy team can be 2RL if Jackal is fed enough by the attackers. If it happens, Cindy win. Noah has >21% charge speed rolls, and 2 quantum cubes were used here

T3: Unsure but look at cp I guess defender has slightly better chance

T4: RNG

T5: I guess attacker win

[quick lake]

SBS Blanc RH clipRL Jackal

[quartz rover]

my stupid blanc protects jackal

[quick lake]

For T3, swap Trina and Siren position, should win that

[coarse lake]

Who are the quantums on?

[valid inlet]

Honestly I did a lot test comps at Rookie with your teams, because it's the only one I can test with

[quartz rover]

is there a list of clip rl

[coarse lake]

Yeah I noticed those losses

[spare nimbus]

Like this?

[quick lake]

yepp

[quartz rover]

do I have any clip rl

[spare nimbus]

Then should i replace xmaiden with jackal?

[valid inlet]

Jackal & XMaiden, Noah with Junction, for some reasons the team burst faster when noah is with Junction, even it has 21% charge speed already, which is pretty weird

[coarse lake]

I think you only get fed enough for roughly 2.5rl

[spare nimbus]

It lost

[coarse lake]

So prob down to Cindy target order

[spare nimbus]

However my team 2 won

[valid inlet]

This one happened earlier achieved 2RL, but I am not sure about this round

[coarse lake]

Yeah siren instead of blanc feeds you enough

But Blanc team should only give 10.6% at 2rl

Well it's only 30h worth of cred (0-5 streak) on the line, only the highest pressure possible in betting

[valid inlet]

I want to get my lucky frame this season too haha

This one is tough but I guess I have slightly higher chance

[quick lake]

oh lucky

[coarse lake]

Do you know your scar comp results vs attacking SG Rosa in the past

[valid inlet]

I remember 2 or 3 seasons ago, JIEN's Scar Soda team devastated my SG team in a sec, but lose to another SG team which was obviously less built

Both rounds Scar was defender

[coarse lake]

Yeah it depends on how tanky the sgs are and who the b2 is

[quartz rover]

what does the bolt mean in the calculator

[coarse lake]

17% cs (3rl in 2.5rl)

[quartz rover]

would this be considered a "nuke" team

[oblique ridge]

No

AoE nuke or single target nuke instantly inflicts obliteration on bursting. In Emilia’s case, it’s a delayed nuke

SBS is more of a sustained damage dealer - as in the real meaning of sustained, not ShiftUp’s ripoff of the word

When SBS bursts, though, she deals damage to entire enemy team every 3rd attack

[quick lake]

Nukes are primarily 1 instance nuuuuke, like Cindy, Scar, ReiTN

[oblique ridge]

Most well built SBS without help from Alice or Mana will do it 4 times? I forget exactly

[quartz rover]

which one is a better defense?

[quick lake]

Can send ur roster if u want and we can cook something both kinda bad

[quartz rover]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTkyMDA1NTU3NzY5OTcyMzAzNA%3D%3D

does that work

[quick lake]

in game nikke screenshot is better. Sorted by CP there

[valid inlet]

This, ahh it was not JIEN but 幽默指揮官

[coarse lake]

Huh interesting

[valid inlet]

But that same season that ScarSoda also lose to another SG team in same format

[coarse lake]

Based on lineup SG Rosa had better chance, just RNG then, Rosa died too fast, plus drake/noir died too slow

[raven cairn]

can someone give me some decent defence teams?

[coarse lake]

What lvl s2 is your Rosa here

[valid inlet]

she is 7/10/10

[quick lake]

Scar Trina laplace xmaiden Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise
Blanc SBS Biscuit Emilia Rumani

[coarse lake]

huh freak rng on rosa counters I suppose

normally you want 2 sgs to die fast to sac, then a healer/revive b2/nonsg b2, so rosa snipes, then b2 helps clean up

[raven cairn]

thanks

[valid inlet]

Right, I just find SG vs Jackal less Scar is kinda unpredictable

[coarse lake]

you got bughara'ed

seems like the chance of it happening is fairly high

I think mihara dying at the exact right time to basically proc all her dot instantly, usually resulting in full team wipe or close to it

if you test it, I'm very curious to know the % odds

[twilit bay]

Does Scarlet/ Trina/ RH/ Centi/ Jackal win against Moran/Rapunzel/T-Helm/ Bay/ Emilia?

2nd team should be 2.5 RL

[quick lake]

Should win, yes

[raven plover]

as long as emi isnt 38% cs

[twilit bay]

Why did this one lose?

Usually always works again Scarlet Siren
Skipped replay by accident

[raven plover]

your noah takes taunt priority?

[twilit bay]

That's what I was thinking too

[raven plover]

whoever has lowest cs between noise and noah takes it

if no cs I think someone posted it here before

ohh

[twilit bay]

Noah has way lower CS. Can I use some other team here?
Or should I go against this team instead of their scarlet one

Never thought I'd regret having too much cs

[bitter cipher]

Must be a clone

Stall team is Moran/Nero/THelm/Rapunzel/FlexB3 right? Or no? (please ping, am going to sleep)

[crystal flicker]

My ex-rival winning another CA, while I'm sitting at 0 CA

[worthy knoll]

That is why I didn't want a Nero Biscuit variant, you would have won T4 if Biscuit didn't stole Nero burst

[autumn holly]

this is frickin annoying, I built up an entire nearly meta pvp team, only to realize it's completely useless since my main team has full OL and that is more important than meta apparently. even swapping in one or two SSS into my main team (swapping out B tier pvp chars) makes me lose.

sooo guess I'm spending another few months to get enough crystals & xp feed gear to feel comfortable spending them on my pvp team, and dealing with 2nd rookie/4th sp >~<

everyone ahead of me is whaling so I can't be too unhappy with my placement, butttt a bit annoying

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

[autumn holly]

yeah, I think the CP deficit just kills me. I also need to doll up the characters. Maybe in a few months I'll have a good team; but at that point these whales are gonna be so far ahead that I'm screwed anyway aha

[spiral onyx]

Helm was already dead from Scarlet burst lol

The B2 didn't matter

[worthy knoll]

Nero doesn't need Helm to kill it

She will just Meow them to death

[spiral onyx]

Nero ain't gonna solo an enemy Scarlet

Who has Blanc buff lol

[gritty ridge]

I should bully, right?

Super ultra mega jackal feed

[worthy knoll]

Your opponent was Trina right?

Blanc was on the Mihara team

[spiral onyx]

Oh right

But I'm pretty sure Nero won't be able to pull it off regardless

[worthy knoll]

She can

She always does

[crystal flicker]

She can, unless Crit

[worthy knoll]

Nah 100% DR

[crystal flicker]

Your team still dies

[worthy knoll]

Scar can't kill her with nuke, heck even Biscuit is alive

On Keripos vid

[worthy knoll]

[spiral onyx]

Her burst doesn't give her DR

[worthy knoll]

S1

S2 read it max stack already

When max stack she starts to counter

[gritty ridge]

I was right, super ultra mega jackal feed

[worthy knoll]

She becomes a wall and a Scarlet S2

[spiral onyx]

■ Activates whenrecovery takes effect. Affects self.
Cat's Repayment: Damage Taken ▼ 8.43%, stacks up to 5 time(s) and lasts for 5 sec.

Where does the recovery come from

Helm is dead

[worthy knoll]

You only need the stacks

[spiral onyx]

She doesn't get stacks for free, she needs a healer

[worthy knoll]

Prior, you didn't need it after

[crystal flicker]

I agree Nero can tank just about everything with 100% DR, but the other can suffer from RNG Crit

[worthy knoll]

You just need it during burst

Of Scarlet

[spiral onyx]

The team died before reaching burst

No Burst 3 happened

Biscuit or no Biscuit

[worthy knoll]

Didn't need burst 3

Against that team

If they had another B3 then yes

Need B3 but now, its all in Scarlet team

[spiral onyx]

Im literally not seeing how she's getting her 5 stacks

When she has no source of self heal

And Helm and Mana are dead

[worthy knoll]

Helm 3 Mana 2

And she only need 5

[spiral onyx]

They're both dead from Scarlet burst

[worthy knoll]

They already healed

Prior to burst

[spiral onyx]

But she still died

[worthy knoll]

Stack 5 sec

[spiral onyx]

So I don't get what Biscuit has to do with anything

[worthy knoll]

She you would have killed it if Nero bursted

Scarlet will die quick

No Scarlet no danger

[spiral onyx]

Neros burst does nothing to Scarlet

Neros burst doesn't even hit Scarlet

[worthy knoll]

Smh S2

Nero just need 5 stacks, HelmT 3 heals, Mana 2 heals, 5 stack Nero get max hp, get counter

Every time Scarlet and Siren hits Nero

They get meowed

[primal charm]

she got hp potency then what

[worthy knoll]

She just need to kill Scarlet before her 5 sec stack is down

Thats more than enough time against an already dying Scar

[crystal flicker]

I think your biggest issue is Trinaless Scarlet

[green flax]

whats the current best pvp team in the 1 team arena and 5 team arena

[crystal flicker]

and Rapunzeless stall

[spiral onyx]

How does this relate to whether or not Nero bursts

[primal charm]

sorry but i cant understand why nero burst do anything meaningful there

[worthy knoll]

She can't meow if she don't burst

She needs to burst to activate her counters

[primal charm]

oh now that sound right

[spiral onyx]

So you're relying on that

[primal charm]

but trina is a healer tho

[spiral onyx]

I can just run some quick tests later I suppose

[oblique ridge]

So this means stunning Nero is a win

[crystal flicker]

Not with Rapunzel variant

[worthy knoll]

Nope, unless like in Keripos case who have another B2

Which will steal Nero's B2

While she is stunned

[oblique ridge]

If Nero is stunned, then her healers die

[worthy knoll]

No

[oblique ridge]

Won't that mean she only has a couple seconds left to ... "meow" with, when she finally bursts?

[worthy knoll]

Moran is the one making the healers tanky

And Nero too, not Nero burst

[crystal flicker]

I'm more surprised Moran didn't die lol

[worthy knoll]

So regardless if she burst or not, if the healers die, well they die

[oblique ridge]

Oh, nvm. It lasts 15 seconds

Once Nero bursts with even a tiny 1 second remaining on full stacks, she gets 15 seconds of counterattacks

Cool

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

You can even see her taunting and meowing even after full burst is over

[crystal flicker]

Yall keep saying Healer dies, but my Rapunzel never dies

[oblique ridge]

Nero is pretty good then. Just so difficult sometimes. It's like she and Moran can be squishy like paper in some fights

[worthy knoll]

They are squishy if fighting Blanc

[primal charm]

can trina outheal nero dmg?

[crystal flicker]

No

[worthy knoll]

Blanc is their main bane, but if built optimal, they can still win against Blanc SBS and Blanc SAnis

[crystal flicker]

Blanc RH only guarantee lost

Blanc ReiT

[worthy knoll]

Yeah it needs to be a nuke

To be a guaranteed kill

[oblique ridge]

Blanc SBS might be out now (as in, Nero/Moran loses to her) after they messed with calcs

[worthy knoll]

Nope, what they messed up is sharing damage even if the unit is immune

[oblique ridge]

Oh

[worthy knoll]

Oh right

Yeah it does make SBS possible now

[oblique ridge]

Still, I think the original counter was SBS distributed AoE would be nerfed by Nero (or Moran)

But now she'll basically ignore the fact she was hitting a super tank

[crystal flicker]

They hsn't fixed that yet?

[worthy knoll]

Friggin bug

[oblique ridge]

And shred the others, basically (in this case, the healers)

[worthy knoll]

Yeah haven't yet, I tried SBS on Noah Biscuit earlier on rookie, it is still damaging the others

Well with the bug now, Nero is perfectly safe from SBS.. but the teammates are not

Oh wait.. nvm it doesn't matter

Nero still wins

Coz Nero is damage reduction, not damage immunity

Assuming it still using the damage it dealt to Nero, it will still deal 1 damage to the others

Coz Nero is not immnunity like Noah or Biscuit but hyper damage reduction, so if she is still being used as the base of damage SBS distributes to others, so if its says 1 damage to her, 1 is also the one being distributed to others

[oblique ridge]

I think that's the problem though

But yeah, needs proof

Some video of it happening post-fix/bug

[worthy knoll]

Its a different case from Noah Biscuit, where it only becomes Zero because of damage immunity, but if they are to ignore immunity and calculate final damage as is (with damage reduction included), they will get damage from Noah compared to Nero since Noah is not actually 100% DR so by calc, they get millions of final damage calc from her

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor @placid bloom CS% and linked siren results

[oblique ridge]

I never understood why coop doesn't just "use last selected character" for repeat coop runs

[primal charm]

blanc reduce her DR tho

[covert lintel]

Nero's only nemesis

[worthy knoll]

Doesn't matter coz it still the same either way with bug or not

Nero is not preventing damage by immunity

But by reducing the final damage as much as she can

[primal charm]

i mean with blanc sbs can dealt actual dmg to nero teamate

[worthy knoll]

Obviously, we are talking about the effect of bug

I mean why did I said above Blanc is Nero's bane

[oblique ridge]

So if we're using Helm as an example

If she gives team lifeleech

[primal charm]

oh my bad

[oblique ridge]

And they all hit for 1 dmg vs Nero

They'd basically have trash lifeleech.. not lifeleech for full?

[worthy knoll]

She will hit 1 still

Yup

Coz its not immunity but reducing their damage

Immunity is more like ignoring the damage, the damage is still done, but prolly the code is like
if has immunity, final damage = 0 or something

The bug this time though they don't use the final damage calculated after that if there is immunity

[primal charm]

which team can beat 2.5 nero moran tho , why she terrifyin

[worthy knoll]

Blanc, any Blanc nuke that is ofc not half assed in skill and OL lines of the nuker

A Scarlet Blanc RH Jack is the simplest one

[covert lintel]

3-4sg will do
Nero will die most of the time before even moran burst

[worthy knoll]

I won though

[covert lintel]

Investment diff

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, Nero team needs to not be half assed

[primal charm]

i hate seein this word

[worthy knoll]

Iirc my Nero team was 100% win rate since S2 or was it S3, since I changed Quiry to Lap+

She never loss since then, though I expected her to lose to Blanc SAnis and Blanc SBS back then but somehow she won

[primal charm]

not even close

nero is the true queen of pvp

[crystal flicker]

Say that to my 1.8RL Scarlet comp

[worthy knoll]

Yeah Nero will melt against Scar Blanc RH

I tried it fighting someone who copied my Nero def while I am in low deficit and still won

[crystal flicker]

Did you reroll def lines for Nero Moran?

[worthy knoll]

Nero is 4 atk

Moran is 4 def

[crystal flicker]

Was wondering to left them as is or reroll

[worthy knoll]

Atk/Def/Crit(or elem for more lifesteal on SBS if you fight a Blanc SBS one)

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message
Nero get crushed by a joke team
Idk @karmic smelt 's moran nero investment tho

[worthy knoll]

Prolly a half assed Nero team though

[karmic smelt]

What that’s not me in vid

[worthy knoll]

@quasi sluice did you have a record of our SG vs Nero fight, the one where they fixed the records somewhere halfway before the next matches?

[covert lintel]

It's you

[worthy knoll]

I was busy that time, so by the time I was done with the paperworks, the matches already started, so record could not be played

[karmic smelt]

It’s not lmao I’m Lovemos

[covert lintel]

Oh diff person? Wth

[karmic smelt]

Oh but you quoted the video that’s not me

This one is me yes

Yea my Nero died because of 4sg

[covert lintel]

Oh i quote your video to him

[karmic smelt]

And he prob has 4atk 4ele on his viper

Any Nero will just get instantly melted even with 4 def

He’s team was like the perfect counter to mine

With makima

[covert lintel]

Max core makima+maybe 4ED

[worthy knoll]

Did you SS the damage log?

Coz this could be possible

[covert lintel]

unfortunately i forgot

[worthy knoll]

This one is a definite L

Putting your Rapu in the line of fire is no no

[crystal flicker]

Found another one pinne P1 user lol

[crystal flicker]

Why bother bringing MiharaOS if you're not sacrificing her smh

[worthy knoll]

They prolly just copy pastaed it

And it was suppose to be Emi burst

But the team has not the required CS so she died to HelmT

Or their Mihara has less atk than Emi is the problem I guess

I think this is also similar to Neko's team

But his Emi has like 4 black atk lines iirc

Oh and max core too

[green nacelle]

Yknow it pissed me off when i try to copy someone else team but im always missing that one crucial nikke 💔

[forest oar]

Would you say p1 or p2 wins thisb

[crystal flicker]

You can always improve if you have the knowledge

[unique mountain]

@covert lintel what's the ca final between

[covert lintel]

Nozomu vs Fahrenh

[unique mountain]

Hope nozomu wins

Oi teme don't egg him on

[covert lintel]

If he switches team 3 to team 4 i might cheer for him

[crystal flicker]

T1 right
T2 left if SG kill Scarlet fast enough
T3 right
T4 right
T5 left

[forest oar]

alr tyty

[covert lintel]

Emi p1 gonna be stunned and xmaiden burst into makima

[glad meteor]

[maiden hill]

do you guys cheer for fah12enh or some japanese name? for champion final?

[maiden hill]

i think the left side will win some japanese, since he has 100k for anis, but has better team side overall with 190k every round, while fah12enh is not balance and might die from those units less than 190k

[crystal flicker]

Cp almost means nothing in CA, mostly CS% and rng will decide the winner

[maiden hill]

so which 1 will win since both players are unable to change their team anymore

[crystal flicker]

I don't cheer for them

[maiden hill]

the right will win guaranteed f2p clan, 100% the left dude lost

[raven plover]

ye fahren gonna win again

[covert lintel]

Every time I make a counter for fahren, i get crushed by another player

[unique mountain]

Its rock paper scissors afterall

[raven plover]

just have c7 units

[covert lintel]

Fortunately the whaler in my bracket didn't copy fahren's team.
it will be a disaster if that happens
We're forced to guess a mirror match between them in semi final or above

[raven plover]

I think fahren guildmate copy paste him but swap teams order around

Im surprised lovemos SGs lost to fahren t3

I voted lovemos thinking his SGs can melt fast

[unique mountain]

[covert lintel]

He is still low invested in bsoda that's why he lost

170k noise, need lot of ED to kill her

[raven plover]

is that cindy team still 3 RL

I didnt bother to check Im rerolling kitasan black

[covert lintel]

2RL
It might even be lower if his team has a lot of cs

[raven plover]

previous season I won because the team wasnt 2 RL, his emi s1 isnt max prolly cus my siren stunned his noise before it bursts

[unique mountain]

The mythical 11%

[covert lintel]

But now it's perfected

Not even lovemos's rosanna could kill helmT and emi

[raven plover]

ok gonna check his t3 later thanks boss

[unique mountain]

[shell hazel]

expensive team 😮

[pearl fractal]

how to win? i lost at round 2 and 3

[shell hazel]

[quick lake]

cp gapped oof