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wth redhood team faster tho
I see but mine Trina and Jackal got it too bro
Have u seen he got Soda MG ?
soda team only 2.5RL even with 17% cs no?
Yes
Soda has slow wind up
even 5 quantums its still at 2.5Rl, 92.41% 2RL
Check my RL hit your P1 and your RL hit my P1
Just need feed for that
3.55% min, per 10 ammo + S2 procs also counts as 1 hit
Dunno how may S2 happened tho
enemy scarlet died same frame as attacker team all died
how did trina and xmaiden not get hit
wth is this
1 frame quicker even tho ur 2.5RL XDDD
3.55% is minimum, its actually higher if with quantum
soda team linked to scar soda p1 p2
Yeah
RLs feed me 2 per ammo
Every attcker Scarlet S2 also counts to my feed
So any S2 Soda/Scarlet gets, also +1 count
RH is also hitting Jackal is also part of link
Check the buff icons appearance on both sides
um i stunned their noise
You can see my Jackal buff appear already before RH buffed appeared, its more noticeable on his Trina. So I was clearly quicker in this much, possibly by a frame 
Can u clarify again please why u faster than mine
I have 3RL with fast gen BG

and all 17+% CS
High CS on all RLs + Jackal feed on P1 P2 who are both linked
scar soda p1 p2 more feed than ur scarlet p1 rh p3
i think thats the decider
And every S2 counts of your Scarlets counts to my feed too
1 frame quicker
So i reflect u then u gain gauge ?
I reflect I also gain gauge, you reflect I get +1 feed to Jackal hit counter
Your RLs hitting Soda gives +2 hit count to jackal feed my RLs hitting only your linked Scar gives +1 hit to you
So the moment my 2nd RL volley hit, I prolly got 20 hit feeds from my Jackal
Or possible 30
yeah their noise must have taken back taunt priority then, shame
3.55% is minimum feed per 10 hits, but with quantum it increases more, not sure the exact mumbers
i see thx u
So its about 3.71
if i put siren on p3 like him would noah get stunned?
maybe, but you can't put noah at p2
you'd have to put cindy at p2
jackal | cindy | siren | helm | noah
will speed them up a bit but you should be in time still
ah no it won't I don't think
Skill buff Tina is about the same.
it's working for them because their noah taunts your noah, which means you RL hit p1 - p3
You need to see it on B1, on Trina buff icon and my buff icon
if you put siren at p3 then you don't taunt their noah to hit your p1 - p3 so your siren just stuns their noise 😦
Play it slow mo
But Ska died first. The other two were not damaged.
I already SS it here
Coz I was B3 with Scarlet first
The close ups aren't helping to see
Scar clutched to b3 just in time 
I was just prolly a frame quicker and my Scar is still alive to B3 before dying animation wise
But I think mihara Bug damage
So it ended before Lams Scar show its animation
It shouldn't be that strong in one hit.
isnt that emi burst
quit for now buff Rapi atk % and you can win like I showed for sure 🙂
that one hit is emi's
Does mihara debuff stay till they die? or is their a duration
You can see ice effect here, it was Emi who hit you, not Mihara DoT
I wish they removed the close up death things, it's not cinematic just makes it harder to see what is going on lol
It truly is terrible. 
They needed to do something to act like they worked hard on it 
Bay works like 15% to other units and 40% to Bay if no more cover, but now Bay died, so it becomes 25% each, but it doesn't matter on Emi.. coz she hits everyone, so each and everyone 25% shared to each other so its same as getting 100% of the damage. Then Blanc also cancelled out Moran debuff
Bay stops damage sharing when she dies
Oh so even no more damage share? Well its still the same regardless
100% damage received 

Damage received Morun 35%+8% bay Def morun15%+bay10% - blanc39% .Do you think it's enough to close? But I don't.
will likely dodge the stun then

yeah 😦
yeah 
I see thz u
we'll know soon
Emi + S2. Emi doesn't need a buff to kill. But in this case you have damage reduction but you also get Blanc debuffed, so it kinda evens out. And you already saw her non crit damage right
1,680,772 + 991487 (from her skill 2)
We only saw the number Helm received
my scarlet surely needs some crit
Coz friggin close up, can't see what damage Emi, Moran and Rapu received
If it critted or not, we don't know
But you can at least check in Anomaly interception, see your HelmT and Emi max hp shown there and how much percentage should this almost 2.7M damage is to your max hp
You go test Emilia, without the buff, she's not that strong.
I see thz u
I did, and check too, its sync 400 locked
Sync 400 stats may have a difference to your tests if you are higher sync
But a 4 atk line Emi could damage that much. But lets backtrack, what you were asking before was Mihara damage
But it was clearly not Mihara DoT
Its simply Emi nuke
Unbuffed Emi against SR15 dolled units with Noise damage reduction buff. 2.31M + 1.36M. Emi OL is 21% atk. So enemy has 10.66% + 17% so its with 27.66% DR. Its more than the value you showed but this one is a low atk Emi. In your case Moran 35% + 9% from Bay, its 44% then minus Blanc debuff 39.26%. You only have more or less 5% damage reduction, assuming max doll 22% damage reduction, its even lower than the on the pic below. It looks weak on the pic coz it was an enemy with Noise buff (+50% hp) and is high sync where max hp is high compared when it is 400 sync. But the damage is clearly high enough even with a low OL atk%.
Thx u for newer knowledge sir @worthy knoll
Another factor is your Trina is on P2. While my RLs is in P3-P5 I'm not sure if you know this but assuming 0 CS all, RLs are like
P1-P2 ( base frame metric)
P3-P4 (+ 1 frame quicker from base)
P5 (+2 frames quicker)
1 frame is like ~3% cs difference
Assuming we both have same CS, your Trina will be the one lagging behind. Though it was just lucky my Scarlet was still alive with a sliver of health to burst 
It's only 0.05s diff tho
Did your Scarlet have Def%
Tempura

I learned from my previous CA match, so I placed temperance on her, also on Soda
I still confuse about if someone got hig 100 GB first and then who is fater
Hahah
Yeah your Scarlet can survive my Scarlet Reflect
So it's very tough one
My Scar prolly would have died if you were defending
Coz your RH would be hitting my electric Scarlet instead of Jackal
I see thx u so much
RNG Arena
At first i thought there was a bug on Arena
U remember last match that i won
I'm the same bracket as the competitive last final match
And the result shown me that my Nero team was defeat by his emilia
Non Blanc Emilia?
Blacn Emi
Then it does have a chance to beat
But last season he can't even kill my Laplace
I don't think he boost so much the CP is the same lol
Emilia with no Blanc can't kill Nero team ever
No
Last season have the same as this one
Reflect match just like last sesason of finale match
Anything w/o Blanc can't kill stall
Blanc emi mihara
Yeah
The fix Mihara now
If my Blacn Emi Mihara team can kill Scarlet team ?
Depends on rng
I see apply stack on Scarlet right
Stack on every unit
Then Mihara dies, even if you didn't burst you still have a chance to win
Because last season i can't kill Scarlet
Yeah i thhink this one is
But last season i fight with Scarlet team and no one died from Mihara Sacrifice death
Blanc apply debuff to enemy + Mihara die
So i kinda confuse it didn't apply the stack on Scarlet ?
I tested it before, sometimes Mihara DoT doesn't give the expected 20 stacks on death
I see
I was wondering, coz I was battling same team
But the DoT damage was different, it seemed like it was not 20 stacks on one vid
But the bug fix recently answered it
So is call RNG right ?
they fix it ?
The RNG is still on the first 10 chains
The first 10 chains should hit each unit else 1 or 2unit will have no DoT.. well wonder if there is case all 10 of chains went to just one unit 
But man with that unlucky luck, better prolly roll gacha immediately
This is an example of 1 unit not getting DoT on the first 10 chains
Trina didn't get chained
No initial chain means no DoT stack applied to her too
They fix her on death skill yes, where it sometimes doesn't apply the stack on death. The bug also was on Makima where sometimes she doesn't get indom. Though what is weird though, they stated it like, it was only during sequential damage but I got it battling SAnis too. So I'm not sure if they really fixed it completely or not 
@worthy knoll Do u have any idea defending team in SP Arena
None, as long your opponent knows how to attack, has no problems on unit choices, has no CP problems, defense will always be broken
Just be 80 syncs above ur opponent 
Only way to guarantee a win is to CP gap them on all 3 teams.. like 100 sync gap at least? 
Haha
60 gap should do
same, i fight 60 sometimes
I’m too lazy to fight deficit unless they never swap teams, takes far more effort on my side
I'm still holding on my boxes
Waiting for next main chapter release
Enemy sync gap will not threat me to use them

Well kidding aside, its almost hard to fight them now
But well I'll be patient
it’s too much effort

They can just login more often and ez kick ur ass or even just gem
Nothing I can do about that
And every time they swap to other deficit teams i had to carefully plan the one instance atk, nah…
Cant let the whales get away 
I think I have enough for +40 levels once main chapter is up 
ur right… I can’t let those jp 24/7 gemmer whale get away with this
I need to nuke em irl next time I visit jp
I think i can only lv 20-25 syncs 
Please don't make a KyoAni repeat at least 
Don't make a Hiroshima Nagasaki repeat
I have enough cd for like 6 levels and battle data for about 3 😄
still saving for new chapters also but I'm not fighting deficit atm 
Is it better to save coredust for new chapter or open them to push hard mode?
Cant know for sure unless u really do the math 
Yea nobody doing the math, but if u save for new chapter you can always be saving for the new chapter and you never open the boxes at all
I usually just start hoarding boxes 1-2 months before new chapters drop
if it lets you actually push, otherwise don't.
Need a couple of levels to push a few stages haha
you have to be able to push until the next CD milestone
unless ur keen on keeping up with whales in arena, you should save boxes except when necessary to push
if you can't make it there, no point
I can't open enough to push this easily
In my case I'm stuck at Black Snake Hard, but I just need some for the +12(?) increase in Cd
imo if you did all of normal + sat on some hard mode later stage like me then it's not terribly good value to open crates today
depends where you're stuck, opening crates loses value once you done all of normal except if you want to stay near top on arena with cp
I did boost about 10 levels to 341 when they delayed the new stages though
electric campaign is annoying indeed. It gets better though. Iron and fire weak 
I think 25-26 were iron and fire weak as well
wind weak ones too
wind doesn't help me loads tbh
But water and electric weak is pain
except for siren
Siren and scalter stonk
not mine haha I think my rapi etc just does more even not weak 😄
rapi op though. scalter damage is capped. rapi breaks through the ceiling when there’s mobs
investment diff, but also scalter struggles vs glasses n things of that nature.
yeah mine is investment diff largely, and I have more cp with rapi on
No shit
<@&946725432554836008>
My stall lose because their Scarlet Crit to Moran HelmT and La+
@shell hazel ripidi
fkin ass
scarlet did indeed I-frame
another clean sweep 
sheeesh
I gotta respect the alice main 
unlucky 😦
yeah at least you can watch the replays now
vesti was so close

glad I made it this far honestly, after Doro SR15 for pve I'll do Noise SR15 then prob poli fav item or take care of Rosana
so much good things to do
good job
gladly after doro I'll also be able to invest in CS cuz pve invest for UR will be done
do you think it gonna different if my cindy is stronger?
iirc 3rl cindy loses to stall
I've lost to a 2rl cindy vs stall in testing though
but there maiden and rapunzel is nearly dead
or i will lose to moran + nero eitherway?
their Helm living is really unlucky 
T1 lost due to Scarlet Crit
T2 lost Cindy vs Bay Moran
T3 lost to Rosa's Crit
T4 Ez win
T5 Ez win
after cindy bursts if they (xmaid and esp rapu) lives it's p much gg. and none of your units can hit them afterwards
but to answer you, if your cindy was stronger than maybe?
nah their helm died, it was maiden alive and burst
And to confirm my calc, yes
Stall survived against Scarlet double, unless Crit
Also that HelmT die from counter is crazy
He's spending all his luck to win against me
damn holy
what's the skill and invest on scarlet trina and RH tho?
rosy team which is very well invested did not survive against double buff scarlet
Is that even matter tho
Crit = wipe
it matters because even non-crit should wipe
You didn't see this 
what am i to see if we don't know their scarlet trina and RH skil lvl and OL?
It's obv 101010 for skill
He hides his blabla profile lol
yeah rip
In case of Crit, not really different
screw crit that's no reliable benchmark
wipe regardless of crit is the benchmark you should use
That's why he used all his luck to win against me
that's CA who cares

I care 
If I don't I would abandon fighting that one SPA whale smh
if it's luck, you shouldn't care
because all you need to do is keep playing CA till luck looks at your side
i'm more interested in knowing the skill lvls and OL to put them in calculator and confirm if crit is relevant or not
and if it's relevant, it's pointless
because you just gambling either way for matchups
for noise I should 10/10/10?
you can if you have excess material, she scales decent
alright then right after doro and elegg I'll finish noise
skill 1 DR
skill 2 heal
skill 3 max HP% + heals
if you tryharding yes, if just optimal 7//7/10
I guess her s1 is the worst scaling
since her base value is already pretty high
s2 base value kinda high too
alright tyty 
burst should be maxed though, that one is too strong
This is so real
let's go then 
sighs I lost my CA match because my supposed to be 38% CS Emilia had Tempering Cube equipped and not Adjutant Cube. It bumped my team to 2.5RL =(. Don't be like me and triple check your cubes when submitting CA teams >=(.
It is relevant
Crit and no Crit to Moran with Burst and Tempering on, extra ~27% crit dmg for OL stat coz I'm messin around to get a good number
LOL SO ACCURATE
so unfortunate
Who
sure sure dw x)
If not for the Crit, I would made it to the final lmao
just look at his team
We have Omni member in this bracket 
if he win I stop pvp definitely 
Just checked, he def got lucky lol
Why Omni is famous 
fella got literaly no pvp invest 
n'1 global union
rip, time to photoshop
Dyno
I just checked his prev match, even his opponent only has half assed comp bruh
Paint works
dude is already 561, while the kraken of my SPa is 461
he is poseidon
even I whale core and only 401
fr yeah 
no idea he prob just empty the whole shop
Hes a CEO
OR
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
Discord:
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Nikke, Red Dust, Core Dust, Level, Synchro, Whale, Farm, Build, Guide, Whale, F2P, Outpost, Dispatch, Pro, Gaming, union, raid
maybe he is this level of whale
let's pray he NEVER touch pvp 
against me too but bet with the right invest and the fact he prob buy rock in shop
CS could come fast
A whale talking about whale to make money for his whaling. 
lmao yeah
Not even Keripo would reroll rocks for 4x black CS 
can we even buy rocks tho
I'm out of rocks to fix Scarlet 
yeah like 12 a month, and few more with event
You can, but it's limited quantity
@placid bloom looks like my story ends in top4 
But hobo got 25% with 17 rocks. 
Doubt
That's what she said. 
~~Hobo actually said that though. ~~
I didn't check yet 
go ahead and take a look 
yeah looks like gg, I didn't look too closely at the specifics but at a glance it might be 0-5 
@clear folio keeps bullying me 😭
though he is up against Zyph again and Zyph won last time, I didn't actually check that one
maybe early revenge for finals 
then my time has come either in top 4 or finals bc @acoustic light beats my team 
is it time for your bracket to shine 
he's locked in
how does one get away with this
LMAO

you don't
seem like that is his throwaway team into team 1 2RL Scarlet

he mind controlled everyone to put their best team in that slot
Hime 
there is actually 4 champion in our top 8 


I dont dare participate this boring gamemode ill keep getting 2.4k with sr comps 
Get 3k 
Literally impossible unless i spend
rich 
that;s me 
spend $100000 to get 3k gems from SR 
My na bracket is bricked by whales
or spend $1000000 to get 6k gems 
I can go for 2.7k but the peeps are incompetent enough that i might get there with 0 pvp invest
Alex hi 
hmm actually $1 million sound kinda low to get SR rank 1
I wonder if I can win 

Ill let you know ill hit as soon as you win
maybe need to up that a bit
looks like either a new champ or a 2/3-peat champ 
It never ends 
Dd fixed yet?
Invest PVP 
I am not investing pvp for 0 gain 
T1 loss by cp
T2 loss by cp
T3 loss by bad comp
300 gem 
I am helping alex beat me 
Do it 
Itll help me improve my def
I wonder if they will make an advertisement that talks about power for Nikke pvp 
How do I make good teams for pvp?
||(also bruh)||
Youre cp gapped i warned yee 
Ill go update my def rq
I have no upgrades sadge maybe cp pad cindy too
Bro is mad now trying to break the status quote after hitting same level tier as mine... 💔
My saved dust boxes are threaten I guess ...


he is trying to be a better Elegg than you 
@rose oracle dont make me have dumb ideas 
gib 
I might try let you win and i overtake ch10 instead idk 
sadly only recent matches can't see mine
All them dupes 
Its for weeklys
I dont use any of these
Its significantly easier btw one min, i was unable to record it
chat even if cindy here can 1shot xmaiden and rapunzel, nero and moran then still can stall and win wouldnt it
I need more cd/hour so I need to beat this one
why arent my replays that dramatic
Crown/alice/rh/cindy/rrh
Start rh b1 cindy till kill wave 1 mobs and jelly
Followed by rh b1 alice to kill all small mobs and jelly, do note that if you dont kill the building in front of silencer it will not shoot and thats important
Get crown stacks to 16
Follow it up by rrh b1 cindy, kill the shield and silencer, and 3 small mobs of next wave
Then rh b1 alice burst down the boss
What i sent rail, rn i believe you can just siren stun boss if needed
People are cheering for me but I don't like my odd in this match up.... Basically give out 2 free win... And wth mirror lol...
Should I just bet on him winning so I either get the frame or the win?
think my cp may suffer too much I'll have to check when I get home
Pretty much 
You have lotta cs dont you?
If so im rooting for you, especially considering you win ca multiple times lol
I think I'd not even be 600K 😮
Use your team, thats just the strat i sent rail back then should help stage approach still
But I basically give out 2 free win. This mirror aside I only have 1 guarantee win. 
He also won last CA.
Well idk rest of matchup my conclusion was thos match is what leads to win or loss 
Wanna gamble?
Oh wait you forced to
i hate ca
funny number 
ive lost to him too =((
I beat him twice before so now it's his revenge arc I guess. 
so either are non lethal? 75% and 46%? 
can someone gordon ramsy for me? sorted by power
tired of getting booted from top 10 😦
that's my defense by the way
do an indom team and a instant nuke team, a DPS team on 3.5-4RL is bad
a non instant nuke on 3RL is also bad
well you're lacking in options to begin with, the closest you can do is maybe ein
at your synchro lvl anyway you gotta do what you can do, just invest in pve and do pvp as a side
I saw raven SWEEP my team a couple times
not sure if its cause it was max core tho
I can put my t9m on ein
I have to buld ein for bosses anyway, right?
drake has all 4 pieces, ein has two
you gotta focus on the following for pve:
rh rrh alice siren naga blanc rouge crown mast sbs helmt
among these, most of those can be used for pvp purposes
Where's the 69? 
oh yeah I'm using rh rrh siren crown naga
I want to treasure helm but I got her after she left the shop
you can make a CP pad team with biscuit and 4 flex (p1 defender, crown can work)
My team order was bad again this time. 
then work with the remaining to make somewat proper teams on possibly 3RL
the ideal would be for a instant nuker but you're lacking on that front
based on invest you dealing with this
My 4.5 RL Cindy could beat 3 of his team at least but just fall right into the worst match up...
no and you should probably avoid using her unless you badly need a B1 non feeding unit
she gives you poor CP and poor burst gen
ah
you definitely want the top 7-8 to be somewhere
after that some strong utilities but they're piss poor on CP
that'd be jackal, biscuit, centi
should I leave my two teams as is and work on the basically never burst?
you're somewat getting there
you definitely can run 1 CP pad with p1 defender + biscuit
That's pure nuke, not account for Scarlet's counter
these are the lowest clears in last month 😦
so the nuke itself is non lethal regardless of crit
alright imma try to cook with the list you shown
s2 is RNGy not interested tbh
ye do that then share again
with the info i gave you, you should be able to form better teams
the 2 teams need to be 3RL or via feed at least 90% to 3RL

I know you get some burst if youre damaged or something
also why do mgs, smgs, and ar shoot one bullet at p5 then shoot p1
this is a team that has a pseudo buffed nuke and is 3RL via feed
as you can see it's a non natural 3RL, but it only needs 0,5% feed (from jackal linked units) to be 3RL
I see so my burst is 3.5 naturally, and if they have a feeding nikke I can do 3
any nikke produces a tiny bit of feed
even the lowest feed teams do, generally around 3%
you can see this from the app
How’s Doro’s burst gen for pvp?
because 3 nikke are being damaged, not one
you do not gain feed if you do not have jackal in your team
HUH?
does nikke gg or prydwen have jackal tips
you can check feed here, in this team case it's 16-28 bullets, 3.55% gen
this is one of the lowest feed teams because all units are RL class
low bullet count
regular SG, non clip, it's average
I see, should I use that calculator you're using? im using someones spreadsheet for it
both are the same, it's just that the app also gives you this extra info on feed
for pvp priority on the september run except sanis should i pull anyone else?
xanne, but no longer really core unit
also prob not the place to ask but is any of the event rerun units good other than sanis


I wont have enough to pull for anyone but anis anyway
do you think I should completely swap my defense out? or just the team I made with auto
alright lets see if I can cook something up
aim for 2 teams on 3RL like we mentioned earlier and a CP pad with crown p1 and biscuit
since your B3 choice is limited, for the time being pick any well invested B3
an ein who's not well invested is gonna be crap so don't bother
same goes for pmaid
my pmaid has some skills
1/1/4
sbs is 4/4/4
same with eve
is rrh better as a b1 or b3 in pvp
B3 although pseudo nuke
she'd need to be indommed, but even indommed she needs heavy invest
at your synchro it's probably not gonna be realistic
those are my only b3 with skill investment that isnt in my main team
I can always raise helms skills to 4, I will be using her when I can treasure
1000 years later...
you really took the long way here uh 
nvm alice is 10/1/10
Excuse me .. how? 1.1M?
Is this giga whaling?
look at their cores
if you never took a break and they're 50 levels ahead, that is simple to answer
If I'm one of the 10 strongest players in my bracket .. obviously I'm pretty consistently growing. But this guy straight up has almost 400K more CP on me
1:30 minutes match so yeah...

this gif 😭
my bracket doesnt seem too whaley
No, pretty much everyone is 700K-800K .. there is exactly 4 exceptions and they are not just a bit higher, they are significantly higher.
They're 1.06M, 1.10M, 943K, 891K
at synchro lvl 160 i was only 20 levels gapped, i'm now 70 levels gapped, give them time 
whales need to grow slowly
when did you start?
I'm going to treat them how they're treated in dishonored
Actually .. only like 15 players even have 700K+ CP in the entire bracket it seems
Last day of Evangelion Collab
if you started Eva then yes they are spending
I am barely sync 301 as f2p starting end of last November 
I rerolled until last day of Evangelion event and then made the final call so I can finish the entire event at least and pull for the other Evas
how do I know if im overstacking a team
what do you mean with overstacking
making one too good compared to others
in your case CP matters quite a bit at this synchro
put your campaign team and see your CP, then put a meta team you wanna run and compare
opponents will be able to challange your teams with either campaign team to CP gap it or an actual counter
From what I heard .. you actually want to massively overstack one team in CP, purely CP .. to use this team to kill the weakest team on the other side .. and then have one meta pvp team with really good investment, to beat the 2nd weakest enemy team .. Win by 2 to 1 decision
if your meta team is very low on CP, it's essentially meaningless because it will lose to CP gap
my main team is like 140k
check what CP you get with for example
rrh naga rh centi jackal
crown biscuit alice trina siren
some lvl374 commander in top 8 XDDDDDDD
Almost all higher power than mine 
Am I in all 
too stronk 
you even beaten the boss no- oh nvm
Bro my alt in ch26H do you remember
Also cc almost down
if you can kill CC, it gives me hope
because if you can't, i 100% cannot 
128k is good
103k starts to struggle
103k vs a campaign team of 140k is on 27% deficit
these are the things you need to consider at your current point in game
Just power pad this early on 
looking at people within my 3 space it seems like they fully invest one team then get like 110 or 100k other teams
Biscuit is the only power move this early
ye which is reasonable, 2 somewat ok teams and 1 cp pad
@quartz rover (Bad) Example, cause everyone around me currently is quite a bit stronger than me .. but the last person I beat (#9) had Round 01 (220K CP), Round 02 (240K CP) and Round 03 (300K CP) .. My campaign team beats the 220K team on CP alone. My 222K Meta team beats the 240K team despite CP difference .. cause it's really well built and invested and has decent OL lines .. my third team just gets sacrificed for now .. 2 to 1 decision. That's what you wanna do until u actually have 3 similar teams .. which I was told wont be for a while and is also not the smartest idea, cause that means investing into 3 teams equally, instead of 2.
the above is the correct approach to push ranks
CP gappable? free win
non CP gappable? tailor team to counter
PLACE DA BETS BOIS
TIME TO GAMBA FOR TOP 4
does left just win 3 4 5
looks like it
jesus christ that T1 on right side
wait it might be 5-0
like idk man i keep betting against myself and i always lose XDDD
Mihara sac SG, is this new strat 
for what it's worth with your meme team, good run either way
yea LOL
i still have a lot of pvp units not built and honestly i didnt even build for this season's champ either
i just clicked save from my last season lineup
that lineup didnt even make it past league
literally just pure luck that got me to top 8
DoT needs time, they should've ran something that gives sustain or delay instead of glass cannon 
rail get the pic
it's okay, top 8 frame is nice enough 
im the only commander below profile lvl 400 to get in top 8 so thats a nice flex
T1 left
T2 left unless jack link dies fast
T3 left cuz ross nuke rapi
T4 right
T5 left
as you command
man u already KNOW im gonna flex nmy top 8 frame in my sp bracket XDDDDDDDDD
Gotta save that pic
you forgot to somehow encapsulate all of this with some way of showing there are tons of bugs lol

Todd certified, game working as intended 
@strong hull don't forget to breath while you ~~breeding ~~training mcqueen


Its so over

Im going to play League
that's gonna be a 1* guts spark

yorokobe shounen
why must you punish yourself 

No kitasan for me
I am so sad
champion run time 
well it's working well so far
then i remembered o right champs is over time to see results
voila im in top 8
what a beautiful day today im having
speedrun to being isekaied by a truck any %
XDDDDDDD
mlb on this reroll thatt i was losing hope for
it also had this scarlet run
you're that character that generally splits from the group at the first sign of something being wrong
first to be killed in a slasher
the amount of flags so far are something else
the slasher would be chasing me and somehow a banana peel would find its way to his right foot and he would slip and fall and i would somehow get away

hopefully you didn't just jinx yourself for finals 
i feel like that one guy from jjk whos just extremely lucky man
rosy's champ time 
a very good morning to the 89% of voters who figured higher level + shiny pfp = win 
most people do that
don't worry those ppl probably spent 3s to just click and be done with it for the day 
what a beautiful morning today huh
hi Zael I think you're in my brackets sir
ohayo minna san
ohayo gozaimasu
i always vote for the one that has the least since they usually win more often
and it's just nice not to vote like a sheep
I vote for the one with the most votes because I'm not bothering to properly check the teams
or the bike guy from one punch
it's less work this way and I sometimes get some free credits
ruining people's chances at winning/losing frame bc they judge off commander level and not actual teams 
or 4D chess it, guess who's the winner by actually checking the teams and then vote on the opposite
sorry Zael I didn't check the teams and you won it but I lost my cheer 😄
we may be repeating this again
tbh nowadays I just look at prev CA record and vote based on that, too lazy to analyze match 
it's just some credits
oshit tav-sama? 
that's still too much time spent, just 3 second click it
hai
my man
I won CA7 but sent some silly meme team this time that didn't win (plus I got countered)
call it what it is
how many CA you won Rail? 😄
skill issued at team ordering 
I need credits
getting a little low bc leveling and OLs
i'm trying to hunt down more people from our brackets but not found many. me you and @hollow lagoon certainly
I’ve been on my unfavored (with <30% cheers) but winning streak 3 times this season 
Not sure how long it will go
see this guy could conceivably win but my bricked tviper sg team has unexpectedly clutched the last two and I choose to believe in her + rosie 
I was going to analyse the top 8 team comps to see what people who got here ran
but I don't usually check the matches in detail let me take a look
surely I don't lose
would be a real shame
their t1 is some garbage
I don't see how you lose that, their only b1 is rapu at p5 and you're SG on def

are any of you in here?
oh wow yeah their rapu is made of paper
t2 you may lose if their cindy kills enough of your stall
@worthy sorrel
nice
discord is banned in China but not Taiwan, so some Taiwanese players might be in here
I was curious how champ bracket worked, if it pooled a ton of different brackets or its different per set of shards
Seems we are both in NA but different brackets
RH buff indom scar on t3 vs your cindy/noah I don't love it, but your team looks fairly invested, you could lose to the indom though
I'm in the baby bracket 🐣
Taiwanese here but I live in US 
your t4 not certain on either, SBS is getting siren stunned so may get indom but xmaiden probably bursts
oh wow people really do vote based on level

their t5 is garbage you win that
I think you win easily t1/t5 but you need to win one of t2-t4 to snatch it
also, don't be an ass only because your stars aligned 
Then I’m in the toddler bracket I guess 
serious question
I don't know how you're doing on this one
as in?
still alive or out?
you should be a bracket ahead of me no? the max commander level in the lowest bracket is like 470ish. and the lowest is like mid 200s
it didn't come off as that
sorry I actually want to know lol
oh wait baby > toddler. I'm just dumb 
you will win I'm sure just don't see you saying much about how your teams are going
rng aside I do like to see how the crew is getting on
they vote based on who seems to be likely to win, generally higher invest is better odds (which can be linked with higher level)
the average lad will not care about the actual teams but just get it done for the day
my thoughts too, probably more worried about t2 than 4 but my cat and moran did tank the last guy's cindy/biscuit attempt 
will see
i'll switch my vote to you zael in solidarity (plus I think you do have a reasonable shot of winning one of the 2-4 matches)

one day one of those toddlers will awaken
damn that is
maybe there's some sleeping leviathan 
transformation lol
it's okay you are cute and wealthy, good trade 

I can't stop laughing at this gif
downright hilarious
the falling money
his $100 bills turn into $1s 

daily reminder if the average player was like me gacha market would be dead 
nah the average player is like you
0 cent spent and i doubt it will change
Please help me build teams for rookie and sp arena 
they don't rely on the average player to survive
so Rail how are you doing? you don't talk about your CA much but I figured you were just bored of it
i'm not investing in anything atm just saving
CA does not really interest me due to the lack of actual interaction and the randomness in it
right I thought that was why you stopped really posting how you were going
i don't mind cooking teams if ppl ask but i don't personally care about it
but I assume you still sent teams and they got somewhere?
uh i don't remember lemme c
But u never cook for me
Can you help me ?
I asked Rail to cook dinner and he sent his student Hime instead

but I don't mind Hime is cool 
as if you actually need help

didn't we make teams not too long ago? 
how can a ca loser not need any help
We did for ca 🥲
imagine you win it and you hadn't checked 
oh right and the SP ones were 2 months back
but your cooks are better than the average 
just need to order the teams better
uh let's see

low down the list
what kind of defense should i set up in SP?
Needs investment ?
always
Ol on all?
4 basic OL on all the ones with the lines
right now have this
4/4/4 skills min
push campaign you can't really invest pvp at your sync
cp pad your teams will be more effective
I can do skills not sure bout ols
naga centi cindy helmt rrh
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
crown alice biscuit bsoda siren
notes:
raise CP on units in 2nd SS
get teams reviewed once those are better invested (4/4/4, 4OL, R15 or SR5)
why do you have so many skill manuals and rocks? 😮
Tyty
Need to invest😅
invest in campaign first
i don't think you are right. If i were spending ton of $ and be above everyone else you would be right but there are multiple people on my level. Putting blindly just CP is not a good strat here.
They are max just need ol 5 on some part
you can't afford the ol and such on pvp units
so you just get cp gapped by people with higher cp units
I haven't even done that yet 😄
campaign team all 10's except where it's not needed?
My campaign team is all 10s
but again good defense with high RL will defend well if guys that attack me has similar strength i am not talking about defending against someone who is clearly stronger i am trying to defend against similar and weaker people
All need 10 lol
most of the batteries are just 4/4/4 skills you can easily do those
rumani trina jackal etc
trina wants more long term
so maybe just tell me if i should replace someone with jackal in those 3 teams
you won't have units like SR Anis invested so they have good burst gen but low cp
15% cp deficit and you probably die
you can mix in some pvp units to your pve cp padding for now
jackal rrh blanc noir drake
rumani biscuit alice bsoda naga
auto
wishlist trina, centi, noise, rapunzel, cinderella, SBS, scarlet, noah
you have to tread the line of mixing cp and pvp utility until your campaign team is more set
i know i am doing just that 😄
i and other guys don't have invested 15 characters so it is the thing for everyone
You mean 1 level above noob?
That doesn't help
campaign progress will win out from levels as well
like those ahead will naturally do better in SPA etc due to that, unless opponent is a whale spending $$$
I push normal + hard mode as far as I can
show your 3 current SParena teams, if they're good i'm gonna
Wym bh 2nd ss?
units with a red line beside
Ahh kk
invest in those up to 4/4/4, 4OL, doll R15-SR5
noise could use 4/4/7 and trina 4/7/7, but just get in budget zone to begin with
it may make a difference 
people can copy teams but they can't copy investment as easily
the one with the sharpest claws wins
if anything at least in mirror matches
that's what killing bites is
it's sad to see a good invest team losing to a budget direct counter
did you check where you got?
i was summoned
another thing. this guy attacked me and lost... so doest it mean this defense can beat it and i can beat the shit out of him ?:D(he was beating me weeks and weeks so it could be a vengance)
yes rosy saved me from the depths of randoms gave me some connections
my team gets called garbo in the past
damn seems like you were right 
Also what i need is ca
P1 skip
P2 weak to siren
P3 weak to defender team
the more defenses i see the more they look meaningless 
honestly, if nikke is a milking cow, umamusume is milking people souls
on that aspect, at least nikke gives you a chance
I had heard along the lines 😄
but if you don't care for the pvp I suppose you can still play/have fun even as f2p?
ye absolutely pvp is meaningless in umamusume
like I'm playing p5x real casual and still fun
the amount of RNG and variables in it would make a whale panic
an f2p better just assume it doesn't exist
I'll pull for units I want with saved resources but I mostly just get my dailies done and move on 😄
is your union an off-shoot of omni?
depends on what opponent may be running, although that team doesn't look scary
you can't see what people attacked with either tbh
I still like CA for the ability to trial teams out btw, I've barely had to actually fight anyone for my SPA, and my rookie I cp gap most people 😄
so it allows me to actually make teams that get to fight
That's for atking
Idk why that 3 team always 3win
Maybe because i make a gap level? Idk🤔
I can see my SPA history back about 200 days I get so few battles
also my last one was 86D ago as I've just out-paced everyone 😄
ok i will try to poke him and see
with that def team
if you wanna take the safe approach
yeah it means I just win SPA so I like the CA for the fact I can see some matches for my teams even though I can't influence who fights what
This pretty abandoned bracket
it's not really I'm just the top of the ladder
no cp pad in my teams here either, I think guys under me are but I can't see the teams :p
basically all my invest goes into pvp atm
even chinnits aren't biting at your ankles
you gonna get rusty 
I started rusty tbh
even my stuff 200d ago you can see it's near top ranks
I barely had to learn how anything worked I just asked Railtracer-sama for teams and they kept winning 
can't do crap if your invest was off or bad, so that's on you regardless i take no credit 
it's really only through seeing how the CA matches go that I sort of get a better understanding of what works
yeah I put effort into em, and my campaign teams as well and pushing stuff
nah your teams helped me a lot earlier on for sure
railGPT
I was like a baby duck wondering what to build and you said "go and build this" and I did 🙂
took a while to get ur blanc set... 
opponents aren't giving you a reason to unfortunately
I still have a lot of work to do
Is it a bit better now ? I need mats for ol 🥲 should i replace stuff or not yet?
although you'll need her once you get someone actually cracking the def
poli/bsoda/noir next on my build list
hmm
we can test it out by assembing the ideal teams you'd be running and then compare that to the CP of your campaign team
My SP top 5 is very active wth 
I see 2-5 swap about a bit but no one tries to attack me
assemble these and check CP
then assemble rh rrh naga helmt cindy and compare CP to that
I got lucky I guess none of us are whales though all look like dolphins near the top
some whales could enter I suppose, dodged it so far, actually top 3 in my SPA is all my original SPA
i got my current leviathan only after 9 months
how many months has been for you so far hippo
Each reshuffle put 1-2 more whales in my bracket 
not using blanc?
that's what happens when in absence of challange
I mean CA
indeed 
Right, my bracket is around 450ish to 550ish currently.
hmm I started in Nov so I guess coming up to 9 months?
one day I'll be in the toddler bracket 
oh no... 
truck kun is approaching
Can check exact dateon blablalink 
It's on the profile

ah I can check it but ultimately I know it was start of Nov
my bay is 14% cs now, 1% away from 15, feel like infinity
ah ok end of Oct
@valid inlet in any case gl to you this ca
I likely lose in top 4 
but I suspect I created that evening and didn't do much before sleepy o'clock
when the time comes, remember to wear protection




