#pvp-arena

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quasi sluice
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I have fight this team b4

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Last season

worthy knoll
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Yeah but I have 20% CS on all RLs there

mystic rain
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wth redhood team faster tho

quasi sluice
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I see but mine Trina and Jackal got it too bro

quasi sluice
mystic rain
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soda team only 2.5RL even with 17% cs no?

quasi sluice
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Yes

worthy knoll
quasi sluice
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I have more reflect than he is

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No way i can't lose to Gauge up i thinki

mystic rain
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even 5 quantums its still at 2.5Rl, 92.41% 2RL

worthy knoll
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Check my RL hit your P1 and your RL hit my P1

worthy knoll
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3.55% min, per 10 ammo + S2 procs also counts as 1 hit

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Dunno how may S2 happened tho

mystic rain
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enemy scarlet died same frame as attacker team all died

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how did trina and xmaiden not get hit

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wth is this

worthy knoll
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I think I just a frame quicker

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Well assuming they do it by frame

mystic rain
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1 frame quicker even tho ur 2.5RL XDDD

worthy knoll
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Its not 2.5

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Coz of Jackal feed

mystic rain
worthy knoll
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3.55% bg gain per 10 hit to linked units

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Thats how Jackal works

mystic rain
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oh

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attacker team is linked to scarlet redhood jackal but redhood is p3

worthy knoll
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3.55% is minimum, its actually higher if with quantum

mystic rain
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soda team linked to scar soda p1 p2

worthy knoll
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Yeah

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RLs feed me 2 per ammo

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Every attcker Scarlet S2 also counts to my feed

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So any S2 Soda/Scarlet gets, also +1 count

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RH is also hitting Jackal is also part of link

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Check the buff icons appearance on both sides

vapid mica
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um i stunned their noise

worthy knoll
# worthy knoll

You can see my Jackal buff appear already before RH buffed appeared, its more noticeable on his Trina. So I was clearly quicker in this much, possibly by a frame KEKW

vapid mica
quasi sluice
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I have 3RL with fast gen BG

shell hazel
quasi sluice
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and all 17+% CS

worthy knoll
mystic rain
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i think thats the decider

worthy knoll
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And every S2 counts of your Scarlets counts to my feed too

mystic rain
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1 frame quicker

quasi sluice
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So i reflect u then u gain gauge ?

worthy knoll
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Your RLs hitting Soda gives +2 hit count to jackal feed my RLs hitting only your linked Scar gives +1 hit to you

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So the moment my 2nd RL volley hit, I prolly got 20 hit feeds from my Jackal

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Or possible 30

shell hazel
# vapid mica

yeah their noise must have taken back taunt priority then, shame

worthy knoll
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3.55% is minimum feed per 10 hits, but with quantum it increases more, not sure the exact mumbers

quasi sluice
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i see thx u

vapid mica
shell hazel
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maybe, but you can't put noah at p2

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you'd have to put cindy at p2

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jackal | cindy | siren | helm | noah

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will speed them up a bit but you should be in time still

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ah no it won't I don't think

visual marsh
shell hazel
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it's working for them because their noah taunts your noah, which means you RL hit p1 - p3

worthy knoll
shell hazel
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if you put siren at p3 then you don't taunt their noah to hit your p1 - p3 so your siren just stuns their noise 😦

worthy knoll
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Play it slow mo

visual marsh
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But Ska died first. The other two were not damaged.

worthy knoll
worthy knoll
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The close ups aren't helping to see

glad meteor
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Scar clutched to b3 just in time hmmz

worthy knoll
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I was just prolly a frame quicker and my Scar is still alive to B3 before dying animation wise

visual marsh
worthy knoll
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So it ended before Lams Scar show its animation

visual marsh
raven plover
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KEKWut isnt that emi burst

shell hazel
# vapid mica

quit for now buff Rapi atk % and you can win like I showed for sure 🙂

raven plover
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that one hit is emi's

worthy knoll
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Yeah it seems to be Emi burst

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Their close up isn't helping at all KEKW

glad meteor
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Does mihara debuff stay till they die? or is their a duration

worthy knoll
visual marsh
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Moran's damage is almost gone.

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Bay

worthy knoll
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Bay doesn't protect you from Emi

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Only Noah protects you from Emi

shell hazel
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I wish they removed the close up death things, it's not cinematic just makes it harder to see what is going on lol

glad meteor
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Blanc counter moran burst

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Well nulls is more accurate pepehmmm

glad meteor
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They needed to do something to act like they worked hard on it hmmz

worthy knoll
# visual marsh Bay

Bay works like 15% to other units and 40% to Bay if no more cover, but now Bay died, so it becomes 25% each, but it doesn't matter on Emi.. coz she hits everyone, so each and everyone 25% shared to each other so its same as getting 100% of the damage. Then Blanc also cancelled out Moran debuff

glad meteor
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Bay stops damage sharing when she dies

worthy knoll
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Oh so even no more damage share? Well its still the same regardless

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100% damage received KEKW

dim escarp
visual marsh
shell hazel
dim escarp
shell hazel
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yeah 😦

dim escarp
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let's hope Noah will burst then

shell hazel
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it's a bit cope I feel if they're 2RL or quicker

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depends on CS % on both sides

dim escarp
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yeah sadcatC

visual marsh
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I see thz u

dim escarp
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we'll know soon

worthy knoll
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1,680,772 + 991487 (from her skill 2)

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We only saw the number Helm received

onyx scaffold
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my scarlet surely needs some crit

worthy knoll
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Coz friggin close up, can't see what damage Emi, Moran and Rapu received

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If it critted or not, we don't know

worthy knoll
visual marsh
worthy knoll
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Sync 400 stats may have a difference to your tests if you are higher sync

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But a 4 atk line Emi could damage that much. But lets backtrack, what you were asking before was Mihara damage

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But it was clearly not Mihara DoT

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Its simply Emi nuke

worthy knoll
# visual marsh You go test Emilia, without the buff, she's not that strong. I see thz u

Unbuffed Emi against SR15 dolled units with Noise damage reduction buff. 2.31M + 1.36M. Emi OL is 21% atk. So enemy has 10.66% + 17% so its with 27.66% DR. Its more than the value you showed but this one is a low atk Emi. In your case Moran 35% + 9% from Bay, its 44% then minus Blanc debuff 39.26%. You only have more or less 5% damage reduction, assuming max doll 22% damage reduction, its even lower than the on the pic below. It looks weak on the pic coz it was an enemy with Noise buff (+50% hp) and is high sync where max hp is high compared when it is 400 sync. But the damage is clearly high enough even with a low OL atk%.

quasi sluice
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Thx u for newer knowledge sir @worthy knoll

worthy knoll
# quasi sluice i see thx u

Another factor is your Trina is on P2. While my RLs is in P3-P5 I'm not sure if you know this but assuming 0 CS all, RLs are like

P1-P2 ( base frame metric)
P3-P4 (+ 1 frame quicker from base)
P5 (+2 frames quicker)

quick lake
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1 frame is like ~3% cs difference

worthy knoll
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Assuming we both have same CS, your Trina will be the one lagging behind. Though it was just lucky my Scarlet was still alive with a sliver of health to burst KEKW

crystal flicker
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It's only 0.05s diff tho

quasi sluice
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Did your Scarlet have Def%

worthy knoll
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I learned from my previous CA match, so I placed temperance on her, also on Soda

quasi sluice
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I still confuse about if someone got hig 100 GB first and then who is fater

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Hahah

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Yeah your Scarlet can survive my Scarlet Reflect

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So it's very tough one

worthy knoll
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Coz your RH would be hitting my electric Scarlet instead of Jackal

quasi sluice
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I see thx u so much

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RNG Arena

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At first i thought there was a bug on Arena

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U remember last match that i won

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I'm the same bracket as the competitive last final match

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And the result shown me that my Nero team was defeat by his emilia

worthy knoll
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Non Blanc Emilia?

quasi sluice
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Blacn Emi

worthy knoll
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Then it does have a chance to beat

quasi sluice
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But last season he can't even kill my Laplace

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I don't think he boost so much the CP is the same lol

worthy knoll
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Emilia with no Blanc can't kill Nero team ever

quasi sluice
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No

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Last season have the same as this one

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Reflect match just like last sesason of finale match

crystal flicker
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Anything w/o Blanc can't kill stall

glad meteor
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Blanc emi mihara

quasi sluice
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Yeah

worthy knoll
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The fix Mihara now

quasi sluice
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I still have the video that i record

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I have some question

worthy knoll
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Before she isn't guaranteed to apply stack on death

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For some reason

quasi sluice
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If my Blacn Emi Mihara team can kill Scarlet team ?

worthy knoll
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Depends on rng

quasi sluice
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I see apply stack on Scarlet right

worthy knoll
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Stack on every unit

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Then Mihara dies, even if you didn't burst you still have a chance to win

quasi sluice
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Because last season i can't kill Scarlet

glad meteor
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Weird team I cooked once that worked hmmz

quasi sluice
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But last season i fight with Scarlet team and no one died from Mihara Sacrifice death

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Blanc apply debuff to enemy + Mihara die

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So i kinda confuse it didn't apply the stack on Scarlet ?

worthy knoll
quasi sluice
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I see

worthy knoll
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I was wondering, coz I was battling same team

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But the DoT damage was different, it seemed like it was not 20 stacks on one vid

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But the bug fix recently answered it

quasi sluice
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So is call RNG right ?

worthy knoll
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No that is not the RNG

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Its more of a technical issue on that

quasi sluice
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they fix it ?

worthy knoll
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The RNG is still on the first 10 chains

quasi sluice
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I see

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thx u thx u

worthy knoll
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The first 10 chains should hit each unit else 1 or 2unit will have no DoT.. well wonder if there is case all 10 of chains went to just one unit KEKW

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But man with that unlucky luck, better prolly roll gacha immediately

quasi sluice
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Best luck

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Hahaha thx u so much Merry

worthy knoll
# glad meteor

This is an example of 1 unit not getting DoT on the first 10 chains

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Trina didn't get chained

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No initial chain means no DoT stack applied to her too

worthy knoll
# quasi sluice they fix it ?

They fix her on death skill yes, where it sometimes doesn't apply the stack on death. The bug also was on Makima where sometimes she doesn't get indom. Though what is weird though, they stated it like, it was only during sequential damage but I got it battling SAnis too. So I'm not sure if they really fixed it completely or not Doro

quasi sluice
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@worthy knoll Do u have any idea defending team in SP Arena

worthy knoll
quick lake
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Just be 80 syncs above ur opponent Doro

worthy knoll
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Only way to guarantee a win is to CP gap them on all 3 teams.. like 100 sync gap at least? KEKW

quasi sluice
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Haha

eager mountain
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60 gap should do

worthy knoll
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And still winning

quick lake
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same, i fight 60 sometimes

eager mountain
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susge I’m too lazy to fight deficit unless they never swap teams, takes far more effort on my side

worthy knoll
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I'm still holding on my boxes

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Waiting for next main chapter release

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Enemy sync gap will not threat me to use them

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Well kidding aside, its almost hard to fight them now

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But well I'll be patient

eager mountain
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susge it’s too much effort

worthy knoll
eager mountain
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They can just login more often and ez kick ur ass or even just gem

worthy knoll
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Nothing I can do about that

eager mountain
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And every time they swap to other deficit teams i had to carefully plan the one instance atk, nah…

quick lake
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Cant let the whales get away CrownEmbarassed

worthy knoll
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I think I have enough for +40 levels once main chapter is up Doro

eager mountain
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TimiSerious ur right… I can’t let those jp 24/7 gemmer whale get away with this

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I need to nuke em irl next time I visit jp

quick lake
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I think i can only lv 20-25 syncs sadge

worthy knoll
crystal flicker
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Don't make a Hiroshima Nagasaki repeat

shell hazel
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I have enough cd for like 6 levels and battle data for about 3 😄

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still saving for new chapters also but I'm not fighting deficit atm Doro

rich ledge
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Is it better to save coredust for new chapter or open them to push hard mode?

quick lake
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Cant know for sure unless u really do the math sadge

rich ledge
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Yea nobody doing the math, but if u save for new chapter you can always be saving for the new chapter and you never open the boxes at all

quick lake
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I usually just start hoarding boxes 1-2 months before new chapters drop

stuck pike
rich ledge
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Need a couple of levels to push a few stages haha

placid bloom
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you have to be able to push until the next CD milestone

stuck pike
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unless ur keen on keeping up with whales in arena, you should save boxes except when necessary to push

placid bloom
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if you can't make it there, no point

shell hazel
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I can't open enough to push this easily

worthy knoll
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In my case I'm stuck at Black Snake Hard, but I just need some for the +12(?) increase in Cd

shell hazel
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depends where you're stuck, opening crates loses value once you done all of normal except if you want to stay near top on arena with cp

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I did boost about 10 levels to 341 when they delayed the new stages though

glad meteor
shell hazel
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I think 25-26 were iron and fire weak as well

glad meteor
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wind weak ones too

shell hazel
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wind doesn't help me loads tbh

glad meteor
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But water and electric weak is pain

shell hazel
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except for siren

glad meteor
shell hazel
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not mine haha I think my rapi etc just does more even not weak 😄

glad meteor
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rapi op though. scalter damage is capped. rapi breaks through the ceiling when there’s mobs

stuck pike
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investment diff, but also scalter struggles vs glasses n things of that nature.

shell hazel
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yeah mine is investment diff largely, and I have more cp with rapi on

crystal flicker
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No shit

dim escarp
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<@&946725432554836008>

crystal flicker
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My stall lose because their Scarlet Crit to Moran HelmT and La+

dim escarp
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@shell hazel ripidi

crystal flicker
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fkin ass

dim escarp
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scarlet did indeed I-frame

umbral belfry
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another clean sweep Doro

dim escarp
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sheeesh

placid bloom
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well that guy is Alice PvE main

umbral belfry
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I gotta respect the alice main UsagiAlice

shell hazel
primal charm
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the miracle did not happen

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🥀

dim escarp
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going to record these matches

shell hazel
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yeah at least you can watch the replays now

shell hazel
dim escarp
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glad I made it this far honestly, after Doro SR15 for pve I'll do Noise SR15 then prob poli fav item or take care of Rosana

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so much good things to do

dim escarp
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gladly after doro I'll also be able to invest in CS cuz pve invest for UR will be done

primal charm
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do you think it gonna different if my cindy is stronger?

dim escarp
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here's the matches

umbral belfry
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I've lost to a 2rl cindy vs stall in testing though

primal charm
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or i will lose to moran + nero eitherway?

placid bloom
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their Helm living is really unlucky TimiProud

crystal flicker
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T1 lost due to Scarlet Crit
T2 lost Cindy vs Bay Moran
T3 lost to Rosa's Crit
T4 Ez win
T5 Ez win

umbral belfry
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after cindy bursts if they (xmaid and esp rapu) lives it's p much gg. and none of your units can hit them afterwards

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but to answer you, if your cindy was stronger than maybe?

primal charm
crystal flicker
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And to confirm my calc, yes
Stall survived against Scarlet double, unless Crit

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Also that HelmT die from counter is crazy

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He's spending all his luck to win against me

dim escarp
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damn holy

tropic summit
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rosy team which is very well invested did not survive against double buff scarlet

crystal flicker
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Crit = wipe

tropic summit
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it matters because even non-crit should wipe

tropic summit
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what am i to see if we don't know their scarlet trina and RH skil lvl and OL?

crystal flicker
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It's obv 101010 for skill

tropic summit
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and OL?

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a 40% scarlet is far different from a 0% scarlet

crystal flicker
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He hides his blabla profile lol

tropic summit
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yeah rip

crystal flicker
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In case of Crit, not really different

tropic summit
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screw crit that's no reliable benchmark

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wipe regardless of crit is the benchmark you should use

crystal flicker
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That's why he used all his luck to win against me

tropic summit
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that's CA who cares

crystal flicker
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Rapu survived the Nuke

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La+ died

tropic summit
crystal flicker
tropic summit
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if it's luck, you shouldn't care

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because all you need to do is keep playing CA till luck looks at your side

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i'm more interested in knowing the skill lvls and OL to put them in calculator and confirm if crit is relevant or not

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and if it's relevant, it's pointless

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because you just gambling either way for matchups

dim escarp
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for noise I should 10/10/10?

placid bloom
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you can if you have excess material, she scales decent

dim escarp
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alright then right after doro and elegg I'll finish noise

tropic summit
placid bloom
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I guess her s1 is the worst scaling

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since her base value is already pretty high

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s2 base value kinda high too

dim escarp
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alright tyty noted

placid bloom
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burst should be maxed though, that one is too strong

sleek imp
dim escarp
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let's go then pepe_evil

rich fiber
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sighs I lost my CA match because my supposed to be 38% CS Emilia had Tempering Cube equipped and not Adjutant Cube. It bumped my team to 2.5RL =(. Don't be like me and triple check your cubes when submitting CA teams >=(.

crystal flicker
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Crit and no Crit to Moran with Burst and Tempering on, extra ~27% crit dmg for OL stat coz I'm messin around to get a good number

tulip quest
shell hazel
# dim escarp

thanks I'll have a watch in a bit at work atm 🙂

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couple of hours time

dim escarp
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@crystal flicker the Omni whale with no pvp invest in top8 kek_wait

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what the world

crystal flicker
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Who

dim escarp
crystal flicker
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If not for the Crit, I would made it to the final lmao

dim escarp
crystal flicker
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We have Omni member in this bracket poggies

dim escarp
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if he win I stop pvp definitely KEKW

crystal flicker
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Just checked, he def got lucky lol

dim escarp
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fella got literaly no pvp invest issou

dim escarp
keen vapor
dim escarp
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rip, time to photoshop

keen vapor
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Dyno

crystal flicker
grizzled bone
dim escarp
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yeah he got very lucky

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top 8 btw issou issou

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oh there's 2 scarlet team

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mb

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better

primal charm
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"just fill in ahh" brutal

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who need OL brutal

dim escarp
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dude is already 561, while the kraken of my SPa is 461

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he is poseidon

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even I whale core and only 401

dim escarp
primal charm
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how is this possible tho

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just credit card brutal

dim escarp
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no idea he prob just empty the whole shop

crystal flicker
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Hes a CEO

dim escarp
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OR

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maybe he is this level of whale

dim escarp
crystal flicker
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Doesn't matter tho

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He'll lose if he go against me lol

dim escarp
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against me too but bet with the right invest and the fact he prob buy rock in shop

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CS could come fast

swift mango
dim escarp
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lmao yeah

crystal flicker
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Not even Keripo would reroll rocks for 4x black CS pepehmmm

dim escarp
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you do?

crystal flicker
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I'm out of rocks to fix Scarlet Scarletdrunk

dim escarp
crystal flicker
umbral belfry
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@placid bloom looks like my story ends in top4 harold

dim escarp
swift mango
dim escarp
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I only stick to core and data

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  • prob cred when It'll cost too much
umbral belfry
placid bloom
umbral belfry
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@clear folio keeps bullying me 😭

placid bloom
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though he is up against Zyph again and Zyph won last time, I didn't actually check that one

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maybe early revenge for finals pepehmmm

umbral belfry
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then my time has come either in top 4 or finals bc @acoustic light beats my team amazedpog

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is it time for your bracket to shine amazedpog

placid bloom
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yeah he is getting deep runs now TimiProud

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it could be his champion run

umbral belfry
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he's locked in

fathom rock
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ShiftyDerp how does one get away with this

umbral belfry
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LMAO

placid bloom
placid bloom
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seem like that is his throwaway team into team 1 2RL Scarlet

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he mind controlled everyone to put their best team in that slot

fathom rock
placid bloom
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there is actually 4 champion in our top 8 pepehmmm

fathom rock
placid bloom
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just Zyph not wearing the frame

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so high chance of repeat winner

keen vapor
fathom rock
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I dont dare participate this boring gamemode ill keep getting 2.4k with sr comps ShiftyDed

fathom rock
placid bloom
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rich poggies

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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spend $100000 to get 3k gems from SR TimiProud

fathom rock
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My na bracket is bricked by whales

placid bloom
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or spend $1000000 to get 6k gems clueless

fathom rock
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I can go for 2.7k but the peeps are incompetent enough that i might get there with 0 pvp invest

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Alex hi ShiftyHi

placid bloom
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hmm actually $1 million sound kinda low to get SR rank 1

rose oracle
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I wonder if I can win clueless

fathom rock
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Ill let you know ill hit as soon as you win

placid bloom
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maybe need to up that a bit

umbral belfry
oblique ridge
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It never ends deaddoro

fathom rock
keen vapor
fathom rock
fathom rock
fathom rock
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I am helping alex beat me hyperlmfao

keen vapor
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Do it ChimeKisama

fathom rock
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Itll help me improve my def

oblique ridge
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I wonder if they will make an advertisement that talks about power for Nikke pvp KEKS

rose oracle
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How do I make good teams for pvp? prayge ||(also bruh)||

fathom rock
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Youre cp gapped i warned yee Pepeh

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Ill go update my def rq

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I have no upgrades sadge maybe cp pad cindy too

swift mango
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Bro is mad now trying to break the status quote after hitting same level tier as mine... 💔

My saved dust boxes are threaten I guess ...SirenHuh

fathom rock
rose oracle
placid bloom
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he is trying to be a better Elegg than you TimiProud

fathom rock
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@rose oracle dont make me have dumb ideas ShiftyDerp

rose oracle
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gib prayge

fathom rock
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I might try let you win and i overtake ch10 instead idk dorothink

shell hazel
fathom rock
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I dont use any of these

shell hazel
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@fathom rock I malded past 27-21 now I'm stuck at 27-24

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what do I do now? NoahCat

fathom rock
primal charm
shell hazel
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I need more cd/hour so I need to beat this one

quartz rover
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why arent my replays that dramatic

fathom rock
# shell hazel

Crown/alice/rh/cindy/rrh
Start rh b1 cindy till kill wave 1 mobs and jelly
Followed by rh b1 alice to kill all small mobs and jelly, do note that if you dont kill the building in front of silencer it will not shoot and thats important
Get crown stacks to 16
Follow it up by rrh b1 cindy, kill the shield and silencer, and 3 small mobs of next wave
Then rh b1 alice burst down the boss
What i sent rail, rn i believe you can just siren stun boss if needed

swift mango
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People are cheering for me but I don't like my odd in this match up.... Basically give out 2 free win... And wth mirror lol...

Should I just bet on him winning so I either get the frame or the win?

shell hazel
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think my cp may suffer too much I'll have to check when I get home

shell hazel
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my alice is 🧱 also

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actually this definitely would tank my cp a lot

fathom rock
shell hazel
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I think I'd not even be 600K 😮

fathom rock
swift mango
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He also won last CA.ShiftyDed

fathom rock
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Oh wait you forced to

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ShiftyDerp i hate ca

primal charm
swift mango
tropic summit
quartz rover
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can someone gordon ramsy for me? sorted by power

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tired of getting booted from top 10 😦

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that's my defense by the way

tropic summit
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a non instant nuke on 3RL is also bad

quartz rover
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idk how to make an instant nuke

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indom is probably just blanc and biscuit right

tropic summit
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well you're lacking in options to begin with, the closest you can do is maybe ein

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at your synchro lvl anyway you gotta do what you can do, just invest in pve and do pvp as a side

quartz rover
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I saw raven SWEEP my team a couple times

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not sure if its cause it was max core tho

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I can put my t9m on ein

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I have to buld ein for bosses anyway, right?

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drake has all 4 pieces, ein has two

tropic summit
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you gotta focus on the following for pve:

rh rrh alice siren naga blanc rouge crown mast sbs helmt

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among these, most of those can be used for pvp purposes

swift mango
quartz rover
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oh yeah I'm using rh rrh siren crown naga

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I want to treasure helm but I got her after she left the shop

tropic summit
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you can make a CP pad team with biscuit and 4 flex (p1 defender, crown can work)

swift mango
tropic summit
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then work with the remaining to make somewat proper teams on possibly 3RL

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the ideal would be for a instant nuker but you're lacking on that front

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based on invest you dealing with this

swift mango
quartz rover
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does dkw skill 1 matter for pvp? I have it leveled

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she was my first nikke

tropic summit
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no and you should probably avoid using her unless you badly need a B1 non feeding unit

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she gives you poor CP and poor burst gen

quartz rover
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ah

tropic summit
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you definitely want the top 7-8 to be somewhere

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after that some strong utilities but they're piss poor on CP

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that'd be jackal, biscuit, centi

quartz rover
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should I leave my two teams as is and work on the basically never burst?

tropic summit
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you're somewat getting there

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you definitely can run 1 CP pad with p1 defender + biscuit

crystal flicker
shell hazel
tropic summit
quartz rover
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alright imma try to cook with the list you shown

tropic summit
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s2 is RNGy not interested tbh

tropic summit
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with the info i gave you, you should be able to form better teams

quartz rover
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so basically moran and biscuit is too slow for me

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I cant make them fast enoufh

tropic summit
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the 2 teams need to be 3RL or via feed at least 90% to 3RL

quartz rover
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wdym by feed

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what feeds the most?

tropic summit
quartz rover
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I know you get some burst if youre damaged or something

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also why do mgs, smgs, and ar shoot one bullet at p5 then shoot p1

tropic summit
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this is a team that has a pseudo buffed nuke and is 3RL via feed

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as you can see it's a non natural 3RL, but it only needs 0,5% feed (from jackal linked units) to be 3RL

quartz rover
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I see so my burst is 3.5 naturally, and if they have a feeding nikke I can do 3

tropic summit
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any nikke produces a tiny bit of feed

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even the lowest feed teams do, generally around 3%

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you can see this from the app

quartz rover
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wait, is that why jackal is good?

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she makes you gain feed faster

half grail
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How’s Doro’s burst gen for pvp?

quartz rover
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because 3 nikke are being damaged, not one

tropic summit
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you do not gain feed if you do not have jackal in your team

quartz rover
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HUH?

tropic summit
quartz rover
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does nikke gg or prydwen have jackal tips

tropic summit
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you can check feed here, in this team case it's 16-28 bullets, 3.55% gen

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this is one of the lowest feed teams because all units are RL class

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low bullet count

tropic summit
quartz rover
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I see, should I use that calculator you're using? im using someones spreadsheet for it

tropic summit
tropic summit
vapid mica
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for pvp priority on the september run except sanis should i pull anyone else?

tropic summit
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xanne, but no longer really core unit

quartz rover
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also prob not the place to ask but is any of the event rerun units good other than sanis

quartz rover
tropic summit
quartz rover
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I wont have enough to pull for anyone but anis anyway

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do you think I should completely swap my defense out? or just the team I made with auto

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alright lets see if I can cook something up

tropic summit
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since your B3 choice is limited, for the time being pick any well invested B3

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an ein who's not well invested is gonna be crap so don't bother

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same goes for pmaid

mystic rain
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ez top 8

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😎

quartz rover
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my pmaid has some skills

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1/1/4

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sbs is 4/4/4

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same with eve

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is rrh better as a b1 or b3 in pvp

tropic summit
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B3 although pseudo nuke

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she'd need to be indommed, but even indommed she needs heavy invest

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at your synchro it's probably not gonna be realistic

quartz rover
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those are my only b3 with skill investment that isnt in my main team

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I can always raise helms skills to 4, I will be using her when I can treasure

swift mango
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1000 years later...

tropic summit
quartz rover
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nvm alice is 10/1/10

high stream
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Excuse me .. how? 1.1M?
Is this giga whaling?

quartz rover
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look at their cores

tropic summit
high stream
swift mango
swift mango
shell hazel
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they're only 5th as well surely you're just slow? 😄

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or you got like 5+ whales

umbral belfry
quartz rover
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my bracket doesnt seem too whaley

high stream
tropic summit
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whales need to grow slowly

quartz rover
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I'm going to treat them how they're treated in dishonored

high stream
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Actually .. only like 15 players even have 700K+ CP in the entire bracket it seems

high stream
placid bloom
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if you started Eva then yes they are spending

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I am barely sync 301 as f2p starting end of last November pepehmmm

high stream
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I rerolled until last day of Evangelion event and then made the final call so I can finish the entire event at least and pull for the other Evas

quartz rover
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how do I know if im overstacking a team

tropic summit
quartz rover
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making one too good compared to others

tropic summit
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in your case CP matters quite a bit at this synchro

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put your campaign team and see your CP, then put a meta team you wanna run and compare

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opponents will be able to challange your teams with either campaign team to CP gap it or an actual counter

high stream
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From what I heard .. you actually want to massively overstack one team in CP, purely CP .. to use this team to kill the weakest team on the other side .. and then have one meta pvp team with really good investment, to beat the 2nd weakest enemy team .. Win by 2 to 1 decision

tropic summit
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if your meta team is very low on CP, it's essentially meaningless because it will lose to CP gap

quartz rover
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my main team is like 140k

tropic summit
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check what CP you get with for example

rrh naga rh centi jackal
crown biscuit alice trina siren

mystic rain
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some lvl374 commander in top 8 XDDDDDDD

fathom rock
tropic summit
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you even beaten the boss no- oh nvm

fathom rock
tropic summit
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because if you can't, i 100% cannot KEKW

quartz rover
tropic summit
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128k is good
103k starts to struggle

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103k vs a campaign team of 140k is on 27% deficit

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these are the things you need to consider at your current point in game

fathom rock
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Just power pad this early on FrimaSleep

quartz rover
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looking at people within my 3 space it seems like they fully invest one team then get like 110 or 100k other teams

fathom rock
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Biscuit is the only power move this early

tropic summit
high stream
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@quartz rover (Bad) Example, cause everyone around me currently is quite a bit stronger than me .. but the last person I beat (#9) had Round 01 (220K CP), Round 02 (240K CP) and Round 03 (300K CP) .. My campaign team beats the 220K team on CP alone. My 222K Meta team beats the 240K team despite CP difference .. cause it's really well built and invested and has decent OL lines .. my third team just gets sacrificed for now .. 2 to 1 decision. That's what you wanna do until u actually have 3 similar teams .. which I was told wont be for a while and is also not the smartest idea, cause that means investing into 3 teams equally, instead of 2.

tropic summit
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the above is the correct approach to push ranks

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CP gappable? free win
non CP gappable? tailor team to counter

mystic rain
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PLACE DA BETS BOIS

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TIME TO GAMBA FOR TOP 4

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does left just win 3 4 5

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looks like it

umbral belfry
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left should win t1 too

tropic summit
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jesus christ that T1 on right side

umbral belfry
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wait it might be 5-0

mystic rain
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like idk man i keep betting against myself and i always lose XDDD

placid bloom
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Mihara sac SG, is this new strat TimiProud

umbral belfry
mystic rain
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yea LOL

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i still have a lot of pvp units not built and honestly i didnt even build for this season's champ either

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i just clicked save from my last season lineup

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that lineup didnt even make it past league

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literally just pure luck that got me to top 8

tropic summit
umbral belfry
placid bloom
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it's okay, top 8 frame is nice enough clueless

mystic rain
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im the only commander below profile lvl 400 to get in top 8 so thats a nice flex

fathom rock
placid bloom
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you can now distringuish yourself from the plebs that never make it past top 32

tropic summit
mystic rain
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man u already KNOW im gonna flex nmy top 8 frame in my sp bracket XDDDDDDDDD

upper grove
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Gotta save that pic

shell hazel
tropic summit
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Todd certified, game working as intended thumbsup

shell hazel
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I love it

tropic summit
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@strong hull don't forget to breath while you ~~breeding ~~training mcqueen

tropic summit
strong hull
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Its so over

umbral crown
strong hull
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Im going to play League

tropic summit
strong hull
tropic summit
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yorokobe shounen

tropic summit
strong hull
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No kitasan for me

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I am so sad

placid bloom
tropic summit
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i've yet to roll

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i'm just postponing despair

strong hull
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Gonna perma borrow mlb kita then

tropic summit
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well it's working well so far

mystic rain
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funny cuz

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i literally just mlb'ed kita today as well

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like 2 hours ago

mystic rain
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then i remembered o right champs is over time to see results

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voila im in top 8

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what a beautiful day today im having

tropic summit
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speedrun to being isekaied by a truck any %

mystic rain
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XDDDDDDD

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mlb on this reroll thatt i was losing hope for

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it also had this scarlet run

tropic summit
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you're that character that generally splits from the group at the first sign of something being wrong

mystic rain
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idk i think god just loves me bro

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i just keep winning today

quartz rover
tropic summit
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the amount of flags so far are something else

mystic rain
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the slasher would be chasing me and somehow a banana peel would find its way to his right foot and he would slip and fall and i would somehow get away

tropic summit
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hopefully you didn't just jinx yourself for finals pain

mystic rain
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i feel like that one guy from jjk whos just extremely lucky man

umbral belfry
cunning crown
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a very good morning to the 89% of voters who figured higher level + shiny pfp = win Smugthy

tropic summit
mystic rain
shell hazel
mystic rain
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ohayo minna san

shell hazel
odd crypt
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i always vote for the one that has the least since they usually win more often

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and it's just nice not to vote like a sheep

shell hazel
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I vote for the one with the most votes because I'm not bothering to properly check the teams

quartz rover
shell hazel
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it's less work this way and I sometimes get some free credits

umbral belfry
tropic summit
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or 4D chess it, guess who's the winner by actually checking the teams and then vote on the opposite

shell hazel
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sorry Zael I didn't check the teams and you won it but I lost my cheer 😄

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we may be repeating this again

placid bloom
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tbh nowadays I just look at prev CA record and vote based on that, too lazy to analyze match TimiProud

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it's just some credits

cunning crown
shell hazel
tropic summit
cunning crown
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my man

shell hazel
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I won CA7 but sent some silly meme team this time that didn't win (plus I got countered)

shell hazel
tropic summit
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skill issued at team ordering thumbsup

shell hazel
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you dead on this one?

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no wait we can do one better

umbral belfry
shell hazel
# cunning crown my man

i'm trying to hunt down more people from our brackets but not found many. me you and @hollow lagoon certainly

valid inlet
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I’ve been on my unfavored (with <30% cheers) but winning streak 3 times this season CrownHUH

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Not sure how long it will go

cunning crown
# shell hazel

see this guy could conceivably win but my bricked tviper sg team has unexpectedly clutched the last two and I choose to believe in her + rosie TimiProud

shell hazel
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I was going to analyse the top 8 team comps to see what people who got here ran

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but I don't usually check the matches in detail let me take a look

umbral belfry
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surely I don't lose sideeye would be a real shame

shell hazel
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their t1 is some garbage

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I don't see how you lose that, their only b1 is rapu at p5 and you're SG on def

cunning crown
quartz rover
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are any of you in here?

cunning crown
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oh wow yeah their rapu is made of paper

shell hazel
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t2 you may lose if their cindy kills enough of your stall

umbral belfry
quartz rover
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nice

odd crypt
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discord is banned in China but not Taiwan, so some Taiwanese players might be in here

quartz rover
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I was curious how champ bracket worked, if it pooled a ton of different brackets or its different per set of shards

valid inlet
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Seems we are both in NA but different brackets

shell hazel
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RH buff indom scar on t3 vs your cindy/noah I don't love it, but your team looks fairly invested, you could lose to the indom though

umbral belfry
valid inlet
shell hazel
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your t4 not certain on either, SBS is getting siren stunned so may get indom but xmaiden probably bursts

quartz rover
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oh wow people really do vote based on level

tropic summit
shell hazel
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their t5 is garbage you win that

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I think you win easily t1/t5 but you need to win one of t2-t4 to snatch it

tropic summit
valid inlet
shell hazel
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I don't know how you're doing on this one

tropic summit
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as in?

shell hazel
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still alive or out?

umbral belfry
tropic summit
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it didn't come off as that

shell hazel
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sorry I actually want to know lol

umbral belfry
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oh wait baby > toddler. I'm just dumb CrownHUH

shell hazel
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you will win I'm sure just don't see you saying much about how your teams are going

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rng aside I do like to see how the crew is getting on

tropic summit
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the average lad will not care about the actual teams but just get it done for the day

cunning crown
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will see

shell hazel
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i'll switch my vote to you zael in solidarity (plus I think you do have a reasonable shot of winning one of the 2-4 matches)

umbral belfry
tropic summit
shell hazel
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damn that is

tropic summit
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maybe there's some sleeping leviathan pepehmmm

shell hazel
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transformation lol

placid bloom
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it's okay you are cute and wealthy, good trade TimiProud

umbral belfry
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I can't stop laughing at this gif

tropic summit
#

downright hilarious

umbral belfry
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the falling money

placid bloom
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his $100 bills turn into $1s poggies

tropic summit
shell hazel
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in gacha it should just disappear

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not even be $1 😄

tropic summit
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daily reminder if the average player was like me gacha market would be dead CrownHUH

placid bloom
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nah the average player is like you

tropic summit
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0 cent spent and i doubt it will change

strange rain
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Please help me build teams for rookie and sp arena AliceLove

placid bloom
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they don't rely on the average player to survive

shell hazel
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so Rail how are you doing? you don't talk about your CA much but I figured you were just bored of it

strange rain
tropic summit
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CA does not really interest me due to the lack of actual interaction and the randomness in it

shell hazel
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right I thought that was why you stopped really posting how you were going

tropic summit
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i don't mind cooking teams if ppl ask but i don't personally care about it

shell hazel
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but I assume you still sent teams and they got somewhere?

tropic summit
#

uh i don't remember lemme c

covert lintel
shell hazel
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I asked Rail to cook dinner and he sent his student Hime instead

covert lintel
shell hazel
#

but I don't mind Hime is cool NoahCat

tropic summit
shell hazel
tropic summit
shell hazel
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wait are we making burritos here?

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if so I'm in

covert lintel
shell hazel
tropic summit
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

just need to order the teams better

shell hazel
#

you can change to landscape mode Jay

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will help to post the images

strange rain
tropic summit
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your utilities tho... trolldespair

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they're... far down...

shell hazel
#

low down the list

scarlet adder
#

what kind of defense should i set up in SP?

strange rain
#

Needs investment ?

shell hazel
strange rain
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Ol on all?

shell hazel
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4 basic OL on all the ones with the lines

scarlet adder
#

right now have this

shell hazel
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4/4/4 skills min

shell hazel
#

cp pad your teams will be more effective

strange rain
tropic summit
shell hazel
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why do you have so many skill manuals and rocks? 😮

strange rain
shell hazel
#

invest in campaign first

scarlet adder
strange rain
shell hazel
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so you just get cp gapped by people with higher cp units

shell hazel
#

campaign team all 10's except where it's not needed?

strange rain
#

My campaign team is all 10s

scarlet adder
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but again good defense with high RL will defend well if guys that attack me has similar strength i am not talking about defending against someone who is clearly stronger i am trying to defend against similar and weaker people

strange rain
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All need 10 lol

shell hazel
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most of the batteries are just 4/4/4 skills you can easily do those

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rumani trina jackal etc

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trina wants more long term

scarlet adder
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so maybe just tell me if i should replace someone with jackal in those 3 teams

shell hazel
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you won't have units like SR Anis invested so they have good burst gen but low cp

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15% cp deficit and you probably die

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you can mix in some pvp units to your pve cp padding for now

tropic summit
shell hazel
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you have to tread the line of mixing cp and pvp utility until your campaign team is more set

scarlet adder
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i and other guys don't have invested 15 characters so it is the thing for everyone

covert lintel
shell hazel
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campaign progress will win out from levels as well

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like those ahead will naturally do better in SPA etc due to that, unless opponent is a whale spending $$$

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I push normal + hard mode as far as I can

tropic summit
tropic summit
strange rain
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Ahh kk

tropic summit
#

invest in those up to 4/4/4, 4OL, doll R15-SR5

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noise could use 4/4/7 and trina 4/7/7, but just get in budget zone to begin with

shell hazel
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my investments (some are overkill lol)

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noise all 10's just because I wanted to

tropic summit
#

the rosy's method

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trust your invest

shell hazel
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it may make a difference prayge

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people can copy teams but they can't copy investment as easily

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the one with the sharpest claws wins

tropic summit
#

if anything at least in mirror matches

shell hazel
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that's what killing bites is

tropic summit
#

it's sad to see a good invest team losing to a budget direct counter

shell hazel
#

did you check where you got?

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

758 whale brackets

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you're in same guild as Rosy?

scarlet adder
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another thing. this guy attacked me and lost... so doest it mean this defense can beat it and i can beat the shit out of him ?:D(he was beating me weeks and weeks so it could be a vengance)

tropic summit
covert lintel
tropic summit
covert lintel
#

Also what i need is caShiftyDerp

tropic summit
#

the more defenses i see the more they look meaningless KEKL

shell hazel
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problem is there is no horse girls on defence

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if we had those we'd always win

tropic summit
#

honestly, if nikke is a milking cow, umamusume is milking people souls

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on that aspect, at least nikke gives you a chance

shell hazel
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I had heard along the lines 😄

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but if you don't care for the pvp I suppose you can still play/have fun even as f2p?

tropic summit
#

ye absolutely pvp is meaningless in umamusume

shell hazel
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like I'm playing p5x real casual and still fun

tropic summit
#

the amount of RNG and variables in it would make a whale panic

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an f2p better just assume it doesn't exist

shell hazel
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I'll pull for units I want with saved resources but I mostly just get my dailies done and move on 😄

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is your union an off-shoot of omni?

tropic summit
shell hazel
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you can't see what people attacked with either tbh

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I still like CA for the ability to trial teams out btw, I've barely had to actually fight anyone for my SPA, and my rookie I cp gap most people 😄

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so it allows me to actually make teams that get to fight

covert lintel
shell hazel
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I can see my SPA history back about 200 days I get so few battles

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also my last one was 86D ago as I've just out-paced everyone 😄

tropic summit
#

200 days ago?

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what in the world susge

scarlet adder
#

with that def team

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

yeah it means I just win SPA so I like the CA for the fact I can see some matches for my teams even though I can't influence who fights what

covert lintel
shell hazel
#

it's not really I'm just the top of the ladder

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no cp pad in my teams here either, I think guys under me are but I can't see the teams :p

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basically all my invest goes into pvp atm

tropic summit
#

even chinnits aren't biting at your ankles

shell hazel
#

nope no one is attacking me

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I'm sure they will

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but I'll keep investing 🙂

tropic summit
#

you gonna get rusty KEKL

shell hazel
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I started rusty tbh

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even my stuff 200d ago you can see it's near top ranks

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I barely had to learn how anything worked I just asked Railtracer-sama for teams and they kept winning poggies

tropic summit
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can't do crap if your invest was off or bad, so that's on you regardless i take no credit AndersonLaugh

shell hazel
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it's really only through seeing how the CA matches go that I sort of get a better understanding of what works

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yeah I put effort into em, and my campaign teams as well and pushing stuff

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nah your teams helped me a lot earlier on for sure

tropic summit
#

railGPT

shell hazel
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I was like a baby duck wondering what to build and you said "go and build this" and I did 🙂

tropic summit
#

took a while to get ur blanc set... susge

shell hazel
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scar/rh/blanc etc

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yeah it did, and I'm not even running her atm 😄

tropic summit
#

opponents aren't giving you a reason to unfortunately

shell hazel
#

I still have a lot of work to do

strange rain
tropic summit
#

although you'll need her once you get someone actually cracking the def

shell hazel
#

poli/bsoda/noir next on my build list

tropic summit
#

we can test it out by assembing the ideal teams you'd be running and then compare that to the CP of your campaign team

upper grove
#

My SP top 5 is very active wth susge

shell hazel
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I see 2-5 swap about a bit but no one tries to attack me

upper grove
#

3 are bigger whales than me

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Reshuffle will make it even worse KEKW

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

I got lucky I guess none of us are whales though all look like dolphins near the top

shell hazel
tropic summit
#

i got my current leviathan only after 9 months

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how many months has been for you so far hippo

upper grove
#

Each reshuffle put 1-2 more whales in my bracket SirenHuh

swift mango
tropic summit
tropic summit
valid inlet
shell hazel
#

in CA yes

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in SPA atm no

shell hazel
umbral belfry
tropic summit
#

truck kun is approaching

upper grove
#

Can check exact dateon blablalink thumbsup

upper grove
#

It's on the profile

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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ah I can check it but ultimately I know it was start of Nov

tropic summit
swift mango
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my bay is 14% cs now, 1% away from 15, feel like infinity

shell hazel
#

ah ok end of Oct

umbral belfry
#

@valid inlet in any case gl to you this ca cheer I likely lose in top 4 NoahCry

shell hazel
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but I suspect I created that evening and didn't do much before sleepy o'clock

tropic summit