pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

you can actually CP pad it

you're overcommiting centi here

[harsh arch]

Don't have Emi

[tropic summit]

post your box @wicked horizon , first 2 lines

you could use a SBS flex here

or laplaceT

or xmaiden or any SG

[tropic summit]

ya sbs will be nice here

[swift mango]

Blanc+RH+Biscuit+HelmT+LapT then.

[obtuse dagger]

have you tried switching siren to rosanna?

[tropic summit]

there's also laplace

[keen vapor]

Isn't it funny how 2RL speed is achieved with 3 RL units and 3RL speed is achieved with 2 RL units?
-# clip RL units for anyone who read this

[wicked horizon]

[tropic summit]

if CP is enough pick 1, else go for 2

[swift mango]

It's best if your RH had the highest ATK.

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

did you claim the outpost yet

[keen vapor]

No

[tropic summit]

you made me waste 5 seconds to check for it and you don't claim

[wicked horizon]

By "enough" do you mean no deficit?

[obtuse dagger]

bruh core 3

[keen vapor]

55% is safe range

[tropic summit]

16-18% deficit on scarlet teams with temperance on jackal and scarlet is generally survivable, especially if on 2RL
would be nice although if you get to below 15,4%

[oblique ridge]

Looks like I lose, cheered on my opponent for the credits

[wicked horizon]

Not even wishlisted.

[keen vapor]

Naked Snake Doro

[keen vapor]

Novel incident

[obtuse dagger]

you planing to invest on her tho?

[umbral belfry]

believe

[obtuse dagger]

because if not what a waste

on pvp part only tho haha

[wicked horizon]

Maybe one day.
To be fair, I still need to finish my investments in my other units, PvP units included.
Half-assing the whole roster is worse than having a couple solid but inflexible teams.

[keen vapor]

Half the whole roster will never get you 3% on raids

But it will get you overall bigger gem income

[placid bloom]

it can if you are global

[wicked horizon]

18% deficit with Laplace, 15.5% deficit with SBS.

[placid bloom]

global 3% seem too free

[keen vapor]

shut

[tropic summit]

time to raise those poor units

either way 15,5% is probably doable

[wicked horizon]

I just started saving for campaign.

[keen vapor]

Time to half build the whole roster

[tropic summit]

give it a shot, temperance on scarlet

leave quantum on jackal

if scarlet and jackal both have at least SR5 you'll be fine... probably

[wicked horizon]

Oh, I fear not them dying before the enemy bursts.

I do fear that after they burst, I am quickly done for, temperance or not.

[swift mango]

Could also go with

Blanc+Cindy+Mihara+Biscuit+Rumani.

[wicked horizon]

I'll try jiggling something around for that 0.2% CP

[tropic summit]

they shouldn't be able to burst, it's 2RL (promoted from 3RL via feed) against 3RL

even assuming their emi on 21%CS and quantum 7

[wicked horizon]

Then I'll take the higher CP option.

Oh, nevermind, just on cue, I was knocked back to C8.

[tropic summit]

since it's s.anis without jackal she should also die to s2 before reaching 2.5RL-3RL

[wicked horizon]

This battle shall be left for another day.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Pad your roster

[tropic summit]

well if anything you've realised where you got to work on

[wicked horizon]

Resources are scarce.

[tropic summit]

opponent is in reach, just need a tiny push

[keen vapor]

Padding

[keen vapor]

Resources are increasing

[tropic summit]

give me yours then

[wicked horizon]

As are they for the enemy.

[keen vapor]

We will get good stuff at the end of the month

[wicked horizon]

We will?

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

The thousand days

[tropic summit]

gif new chapterinos and i'm happy

[keen vapor]

Believe

[coarse solstice]

Forgot to post this earlier. Lmk what you think of my teams

[keen vapor]

Bay being useless

[tropic summit]

T1 weak to SG (p5 is the only B3)
T2 too slow, moran/nero wants to be 2.5RL ideally
T3 ok
T4 siren weak
T5 ok

[keen vapor]

Missed Noise for 2B

Well, there's speed thing

[coarse solstice]

Yeah no noise was intentional

[keen vapor]

Bay still wasted

[coarse solstice]

Hime gave me plenty of s*** about that

[tropic summit]

ye bay is just there cheering

which is kinda her job i guess

[placid bloom]

Nihilister user

[keen vapor]

Gave you what

[coarse solstice]

My voice to text is censoring I guess lol

[tropic summit]

plenty of ||slaps||

[keen vapor]

Plenty of ||bully|| shake

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

I mean it's still correct to put Bay in p2 no? If Noah stunned better burst Bay than Nihilister

[coarse solstice]

If Noah stuns, I'm done regardless

[keen vapor]

Say Hime-sama

[tropic summit]

bay in p2, assuming no treasure, still gets her cover blown up

just less chances because only open to splash

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

the "safe" usage is in p3 (assuming no emi) or p4

[placid bloom]

it's just to beat linked Scarlet matchup

[tropic summit]

[coarse solstice]

Exactly

[placid bloom]

1/5 gamba

just meet it every round

[coarse solstice]

P1 Scarlet matchup is a safe bet

[tropic summit]

worse comes to worse just come train horse girls

[keen vapor]

A good Emi does not have space for tons of ele

She needs 4 CS 4 attack

2 ammo optional

[tropic summit]

and you think that won't blow her cover?

[keen vapor]

I think so yeah

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Say Hime-sama

[coarse solstice]

Hime-chan

[tropic summit]

Hime-oneechan

[keen vapor]

[harsh arch]

I think it's too slow team

[swift mango]

But it win.

It's all that matters.

[harsh arch]

I tested it after reset

[coarse solstice]

I don't know if it makes a difference but my 2B is strong

[tropic summit]

is 2B nuke single hit or multi hit @swift mango

[coarse solstice]

One distributed damage AOE and then a single Target against the highest attack

[tropic summit]

hmm which means it can get diluted by bay

so that team is weak to 3 things i guess

-stun on p1 (siren)
-bay on 2RL
-noah on 2RL

at least it's SG resistant and can stall indom

[coarse solstice]

I thought about doing centi P1 but that made me nervous

[swift mango]

Rossana delete ATK buff on 2B.

[tropic summit]

add another

[coarse solstice]

It sure does

Two rocket launcher makes me a little more resistant against Rosanna though

[tropic summit]

starting to understand why we see so little 2B in CA

[coarse solstice]

Also have biscuit to help against shotgun

[quartz rover]

[coarse solstice]

I mean I just really like 2B. No other reason to add her to anything to be honest

[tropic summit]

loyal fan

[swift mango]

Defending on how you build it, Siren, Noah or Bay could be not matter at all.

But it's hard to evade Rossana. You need OL manipulation, it means lots of rocks and compromises.

[tropic summit]

like removing 40% atk from your biscuit

[swift mango]

[coarse solstice]

She is definitely a work in progress

[swift mango]

Oh hey, at least Biscuit+Noah is useless against distribution dmg now.

I guess it's how the Dev wanted distribution Dmg to be all along. It was just buggy before that Noah+biscuit could stop them.

[tropic summit]

things not working as intended in nikke? never seen before

[coarse solstice]

Been splitting them up for a while now so no big change for me

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

sbs stocks going up

[rich ledge]

Oo it just changed?

[swift mango]

ASS stock going down to minus now.

[rich ledge]

It's not just biscuit Noah right? It's biscuit+ any defender is vulnerable to SBS now?

[umbral belfry]

I think?

granted my sbs was winning with non-noah/moran bisc before this

so I can't really comment

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

had no doubts 🍿

[umbral crown]

We trust the process

[rich ledge]

Can I win?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango oi, there's another emilia miranda believer here

[swift mango]

He is in same CA as me.

[tropic summit]

that's cute

[umbral crown]

[glad glade]

The people lack faith in me (I’m going for losers again hence why I’m not voting for myself)

[umbral crown]

Most people voting for me, not a good sigm

[rich ledge]

I only have 9% voting for me

[eternal finch]

recs vs these teams please?

[tropic summit]

skip t1
scarlet trina siren flex jackal
noah rumani cind biscuit helmt

[glad glade]

Last season the majority won every match that I cheered for, so who knows

[tropic summit]

wait what i thought you had good counters this time around

[umbral crown]

Its own experience, when people vote for me i tend to lose

[tropic summit]

or maybe it's just very obvious teams

[umbral crown]

I do, high chance 3-2 but my SG team facin a cindy noah biscuit jackal noise

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

but but

[eternal finch]

what units are considered "flex"?

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina siren laplacet/xmaiden jackal

[umbral crown]

But im gonna trust the process

[keen vapor]

Rosy got Bay treasure

[placid bloom]

believe in ninja fix

[umbral crown]

Si

She also in CA

She got fixed yesterday

[umbral crown]

Si

Now your turn

[glass snow]

Will Helm (Treasure) work with Jackal and Biscuit?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

she works with either

But it's generally not a good idea to have both Jackal and biscuit on the same team

[tropic summit]

aside from rookie teams

then you can put them together

[glass snow]

Mb I pulled Jackal not so long ago and I thought it would be fine but who should I match Helm and Jackal with?

[tropic summit]

need to see your box to give you the best answer

as there are many combinations

but it generally depends on what you've and how invested they are

[glad meteor]

Jackal bisc invul is bugged too

[hollow lagoon]

can helm burst be taunted?

[glad meteor]

Yes

[strange quail]

No update for the PvP resource Sadge

[dim escarp]

wait how much power

what in the world

[tropic summit]

are you top/left or bottom/right, as side also matters

[strange quail]

So how good is the new treasure for the pvp ?

Poli is a PvP unit now ? Damn

[tropic summit]

i'm just gonna go with general guess non assuming side, although T3 is especially side oriented

[tropic summit]

poli slight improvement, bay easier to use, nothing gamebreaking

[keen vapor]

I will someday but not today

[signal hull]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-syrio-forel-arya-stark-god-of-death-gif-12771406

[lone zinc]

Hello, looking for help to revise my PvP teams (I use the same off/def). I've attached my current 3 teams and all of my units. Only Viper and Helm have their special item. Any help appreciated.

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

Ok, time to work

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

What's the doll level for Noah? Are you amongst the highest synch levels on your bracket?

[lone zinc]

Noah doll SR, phase 0. I can level it if that helps. No, I don't think I am among the highest sync, usually at a deficit

[keen vapor]

I think Noah biscuit team will be better then

Won't survive long enough for 2RL speed

[lone zinc]

I have mats to level dolls, skills or OL if required for at least 1 unit. But yea need general composition for the 3 teams because I am just awful at creating them

[keen vapor]

Deficit means 20-like level diff at least

[lone zinc]

I am sync 338, and looking at arena history most are 410, many 450 that beat me last few days

[tropic summit]

s.anis team and crown team needs to go

way too abusable by the enemy, both on slowness and feed

[tropic summit]

noise and trina need to go in synchro and invest up until optimal (you can check prydwen for skill lvs and OLs)

[lone zinc]

Sure I can put them in there and level them to spec

[tropic summit]

once those 2 are ready there's way better teams you could be running

[lone zinc]

Sounds good, sure can assume they are now ready because I can do that right now, I have a lot of mats. Any idea on how I should reform the 3 teams?

[tropic summit]

you can aim for starters to this one, will be a direct upgrade to your current teams

the cindy and noah team could be further changed into a cindy 2RL with noah and a 3rd team simply CP padding it

but it will depend on how resistant it is against your opponent

in general with siren you now no longer want a B2 or B3 in p1

getting a nero/moran 2.5RL would be ur next step after that, but it can wait until you've tested this one out

[lone zinc]

This is amazing, thank you so much. I have LaPlace special item too I forgot so that works.

These RL stats, is the goal to get >100% for the lowest RL? Like 2RL > 100% is the best?

[tropic summit]

2RL is faster than 2.5RL, 2.5RL is slower than 2RL but faster than 3RL

as you can guess, in general, the faster the better

this is very much true for anti nuke teams, a 3RL noah is meaningless against a 2RL scarlet

on the other hand, stall oriented teams with heavy damage reduction stacking can afford being slower

e.g. a very good invested 2.5RL moran can survive a single buff 2RL scarlet

same goes for noise in some cases

lastly, in case of scar-jack teams, there's a feeding mechanic that can be abused, units linked with jackal will share damage, which allows scarlet s2 to procc even if she's not in p1, all of that also produces burst gen depending on what opponent is running

so for example if they run SGs/ARs/MGs or all weapons beside snipers and rocket launcher, they'll make you faster

2.5RL can easily become 2RL, so that team punishes usage of those

if you're more curious on those details, you can give this one a read

#pvp-arena message

[lone zinc]

Yes this is quite complicated and in-depth, I will read the docs you linked. Appreciate all the info, truly

[tropic summit]

you welcome, happy hunting

[hollow lagoon]

looka likw my treasure bay bricked my Ca

https://tenor.com/view/masters-of-the-universe-skeletor-mot-u-gif-5430301619065962680

[lone zinc]

Two follow-up questions after reading the articles you linked:

• I was just going to run the same team in offense as well, is that fine?
• The meta PvP article talks a lot about S. Anis, but we removed her entirely in this new team formation, is that a concern?

[atomic wolf]

PLEASE JUST SWITCH MY SP BRACKET FAST HOLY

WHY AM I STILL STUCK WITH BRAINDEAD WHALES

[glad meteor]

Do you have sc of fight

She should be blocking aoe

[hollow lagoon]

i dont because version issue

[eager mountain]

[glad meteor]

They’ll show a stat log but no video

[hollow lagoon]

i sware every time i lose i just se version issue

[glad meteor]

Happened to us all

we can’t see vids

[hollow lagoon]

yeah but everytime is a bit much

[glad meteor]

But can see stat log

[glad meteor]

That’s normal. Bay can’t do much against sbs indom

[hollow lagoon]

i need to blame on something right?

[glad meteor]

🫡

[hollow lagoon]

treasure bay is supposedly bugged tho

[glad meteor]

Should be fixed after friday patch. The prominent bug at the moment is invuln not working as expected when there is damage distribution

[hollow lagoon]

nice

but man CA is so stale literal just positioning

[glad meteor]

I got 5-0’d by my spa whale

No nero invested, and don’t have scar to fix comps

[tropic summit]

s.anis is an SG unit, she's easier to deal with on defense and easier to use when attacking

[tropic summit]

offense is generally tailored to what opponent is running, once you get more knowledgable, you'll make your own attack teams based on what you facing

on a very general approach run 2RL scarlet-trina against any slower team or non 2RL anti nuke
while you'll run 2RL noah against any 2RL nuke

[hollow lagoon]

feels like my investments into pvp units are wasted if i get taken out by someone so much lower

[tropic summit]

pro tip n1: do not invest in pvp for the sake of CA

CA is for the most part decided at team arrangement order

bad RNG will lead to bad results, good RNG will lead to good results

[hollow lagoon]

yep, i just gave them basic pink gear

but i still felt that's too much

[glad meteor]

This team need more pressure I feel like

[worthy knoll]

I invest in pvp for the sake of pve

[hollow lagoon]

i wanted to redo my CA comps but i got hooked on this new drug

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-huh-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-twitch-7tv-gif-18228911432715801849

wdf

[rain thicket]

what's the counter pick to this team ?

[eager mountain]

I invest in pvp cuz I don’t care about niche raid character…

[eager mountain]

3+rl bis noah

[glad meteor]

My2rl emi goes through 3rl noah

[rain thicket]

yeah i kinda remember emi going through on 3RL Noah but i don't remember everything i tried so will try again see how this goes

[quiet merlin]

scarlet /blanc/rosanna/helmT/jackal
how do i counter this?

[keen vapor]

That's an interesting mindset

[keen vapor]

Rule of thumb for PvP attack is

Can you Siren it?

[gritty ridge]

Siren stun noah👉👈

[tropic summit]

on budget suika game ripoff? reasonable

[glad meteor]

If team is 2rl they could load up cs to avoid siren stun. Helm emi noah are fast

[hollow lagoon]

it is what it is

[glad meteor]

Need to spend rock on noah cs though

[hollow lagoon]

finally raid rewards my quantunm is 7

[pure moss]

someone remind me real quick, top and right are attacking right?

[tropic summit]

give them the same medicine

else 2RL scarlet with siren

scarlet trina siren laplace/xmaiden jackal

[quartz rover]

dude changed his team after the maintenance. how does it far still

[tropic summit]

jackal alice blanc siren naga (invert naga with siren depending on whichever is linked to get feed from enemy doroSG)

[quartz rover]

lemme check

[pure moss]

so I'll take p1, p3, p4?

[gritty ridge]

Do i have a chance with any of these?

Dont mind my teams too much, i have attacking built for 1 specific person

[pure moss]

yes

[gritty ridge]

But if I can compete with 1st it'd be a big help compared to fighting for 4th

[pure moss]

fully built shotgun and rosanna against scarlet jackal

[quartz rover]

siren and alice get the jackal buff

this oen right

[gritty ridge]

I dont have shotgun team, no viper or pepper

Or t.drake

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

jackal alice blanc naga siren

[gritty ridge]

Ill link my nikke list if yall wanna cook for me, I have to get back to work

[pure moss]

build your scarlet jackal and throw it against team 1, Noise Noah Cindy against team 3. You have no chance for team 2

[gritty ridge]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTI0MDQ0OTYzNDE3MTI4NDUzMTI%3D

[umbral belfry]

how is your sgs + rosa gonna break through a bisc-protected cindy good sir

[gritty ridge]

I also dont have scarlet

[jagged iron]

What’s the best harmony cube for Noah?

[quartz rover]

i'm dumb, I had deficit

[pure moss]

That's true. I'm dedge

[umbral belfry]

bad matchups this round

[pure moss]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-cinderella-little-mermaid-siren-punch-gif-8275090892711293519

[umbral belfry]

well, you may win t3-t5 actually

[glad meteor]

No t4 blanc

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

but i guess it'll depend if your nero can eat sgs

but then rosa is gonna prolly kill helm and maybe lap

[tropic summit]

depends on what you're aiming for

hit a threshold? adjutant
hit burst gen? quantum
just tank? temperance

[gritty ridge]

This is my nikke list, im logging out for bout 4 hours for work

[pure moss]

That's it, I'm bringing Poli to the table

[umbral belfry]

just like me

[pure moss]

and maximize Rosanna's atk

bye bye lil Anne

Fully built Poli in 3 seasons

[sweet mortar]

Best team/teams for PVP Rookie + Special Arena?

[pure moss]

Siren Scarlet Trina Centi Jackal
Hello? Noise?
TDrake Soda Rosanna Noir TPoli
Blanc Biscuit SScarlet Rumani XMaiden
Nero Moran THelm (21%cs) Mana Rapunzel (21%cs)
Can't find Noise

[sweet mortar]

Noise 😭

[pure moss]

oh and Nero Moran team must be fully built at whale level

[whole pawn]

@fathom rock mr president, a new player has hit the bracket

[pure moss]

might as well silver ticket noise

[sweet mortar]

I'll do that when I next see her

[whole pawn]

i cant beat any of these

[fathom rock]

[sweet mortar]

I've just been stuck at Diamond 1 for pretty much forever in Special Arena

[pure moss]

no Emilia either

[fathom rock]

Show yuudachi comps

[sweet mortar]

I'd ticket her if they ever reran but I started last summer

[pure moss]

ye nah you can make it to champion in sp arena but not too far in CA

[young sphinx]

Can someone help me with a arena team and sa team. I just pulled biscuit and im not entirely sure how to use her

[whole pawn]

[fathom rock]

Cp padder

[whole pawn]

ofc, I can't beat anyone in this bracket, I need someone to beat yuddachi

seems like we are stuck at rank 14

[tropic summit]

are you trying to indom biscuit? why is SBS not in p2

[whole pawn]

I can't beat cp padders

[pure moss]

I tried putting sbs in p2 but she got obliterated

indom biscuit might be the play idk

[tropic summit]

you're also cooking with lower invest units instead of the higher invest in the box

try to use more of the units on top

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal in my defense it's not me asking

[wet crystal]

?

[pure moss]

you're not wrong but they did ask for best teams

[umbral belfry]

ace has me by the neck asking you to test sbs against noah bisc to see if the bug is still here

[wet crystal]

huh, ok. lmk the comp set up and which team I'm hitting

[umbral belfry]

just t2 i should have 3rl noah cindy bisc there anyway

ty as always @clear folio say ty

[clear folio]

Folian the Goat!

[wet crystal]

jsut a clasic sbs blanc rapu set up orr?

[umbral belfry]

uhhh

whatever is a 3rl sbs team

[wet crystal]

how was she bugged?

[umbral belfry]

something with bisc, but in a clip she was able to win vs noah + bisc

on same speed iirc

the other members still got hit by sbs even though noah taunted

[half grail]

Is doro good for PvP?

[pure moss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

don't gaslight my guy into building doroscam for pvp pls

[umbral belfry]

at least she's good for bosses

[glad meteor]

Just get 100 sync and run sg team

[pure moss]

TViper TTove Doro Leona and Soda (idk) for water sg team

I'd prefer TDrake against UR water weak boss instead of Soda

[quartz rover]

look who I just got

[wet crystal]

noice

[quartz rover]

now I can rule the bracket

[quiet merlin]

scarlet-blanc-rosanna-helmT-jackal
how do i beat this?

[umbral belfry]

i just forgot that my noise has taunt prio 😭 now i can't tell

but i think? it's still bugged

there @clear folio you got your answer

ty folian

[tropic summit]

you need a no feed team, noah biscuit helm laplace noise should do the job

alternatives without laplace and noise:

noah biscuit helmt xmaiden rapunzel

[tropic summit]

"best teams" but being easily CP gapped are no longer best teams

don't cook if you're not gonna put effort

people rely on what you tell them

[pure moss]

ok I don't cook

[quiet merlin]

worked like a charm
thank you

[glad meteor]

Rumani prio

Her 5s taunt takes prio for some reason

[umbral belfry]

bugged? or bc rumani has taunt

[pure moss]

Imma bbq the meat, much better than regular cooking

unhealthy for your wallet ofc

[tropic summit]

[pure moss]

24.45% cs on Emilia, P A I N

[wide warren]

What is a set and forget rookie arena team?

[tropic summit]

there's no unbeatable rookie team

refer to these for whatever you can run:
#pvp-arena message

prefer 2RL

[wide warren]

ty

[ionic rose]

does anyone have the replay bug in CA? it says cant replay due to Version Error

[umbral belfry]

bugged for us all

[wicked horizon]

I found a loose cube for SBS (she wasn't fitted for Arena) so no more deficit.

I think I'll cede the next one though.

[glad meteor]

The dist damage looks like it went through the invul

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Prob need blanc rh buff to stand a chance though

[umbral belfry]

watch su fix this mid ca

[glad meteor]

Noise noah cindy op

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-comfy-gif-26415216

[tropic summit]

yeah that's kinda out of your range

[tropic summit]

gj for this one

[quartz rover]

what should my sp defense be now?

this is the power thing if it matters

[tropic summit]

push wall, that's your most important task now

get past lvl160

[quartz rover]

I can't

well maybe I can

[tropic summit]

[quartz rover]

and I have 600 regular vouchers, the 6 things in standard wishlist thing, and a dupe capsule (but I can get helm from that 😦 )

[tropic summit]

naga and mmast are good investiment long term

afterward pick either drake or moran

privaty will fall off

on the other hand drake and privaty are both available on the shop

[quartz rover]

I can get drake from voucher

[tropic summit]

don't spend longer than 1 or 2 weeks at most blocked on wall if possible

[quartz rover]

I dont see priv

[tropic summit]

she'll rotate

[quartz rover]

does it also rotate the treasure capsule?

[tropic summit]

#questions

[quartz rover]

cause this aint it 😠

[tropic summit]

T1 is overcommited, T2 should be faster, T3 is a mess.

post your box

[tropic summit]

rrh drake blanc anchorIM jackal
crown biscuit rh anis trina
auto

wishlist noah, noise, rapunzel, rumani, centi, cinderella, scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Lmao

Who should I invest in the core pvp supports first?

Jackal, biscuit, Noah, blanc, or noise

[junior zephyr]

Does Soda have big burst filling rate somehow?

[tropic summit]

naga anchorIM cindy rouge helmt
scarlet siren blanc xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit ein rh noir

raise CP of units in second screenshot, a good chunk of your utilities are very low
can consider treasuring laplace

get your teams reviewed once those utilities are better invested

[tropic summit]

regular soda no, bsoda is clipSG burst gen tier

[junior zephyr]

nah, theyre using regular soda

[tropic summit]

their high burst gen is from having 3 clip RLs

[tropic summit]

also soda in p1 likely means it's linked

[gritty ridge]

Thats so much burst gen

[junior zephyr]

they're beating that teams burst gen

all rocket launchers with burst gen up

[tropic summit]

you don't fight scar-jack with scar-jack

also you might want to steer away from that team

RNG stun with anti taunt

[junior zephyr]

The taunt is irrelevant

[tropic summit]

if it's rookie you can commit to it though

[junior zephyr]

Their B1 goes off before my B2

[tropic summit]

ye likely high CS%

considering your synch, it's not out of question they're running 1.9RL

[tropic summit]

keep in mind you're being stunned at 2RL B1 timeframe

[glad meteor]

Noise noah rumani helm bay

[tropic summit]

you can run this to enforce stun on your p1 and p2

you'll be bursting with jackal bay and helmt, you'll nuke scarlet and prevent nuke at same time

100% stun on noise and noah via taunting

[junior zephyr]

I mean if I'm not beating their burst gen with 4 RL how is going down in burst gen supposed to help?

[tropic summit]

?

you're getting stunned at 1.9RL, you'll both be bursting at 1.9RL and 2RL

your p1 and p2 are stunned, you're on B2 while they're approaching B3

bay tanks the nuke via her B2

helmT kills scarlet at B3

you follow so far?

[junior zephyr]

They get stunned via sodas burst

So between my burst 1

[tropic summit]

yes at 1.9RL B1 goes off

you'll be B1-B2ing not via noise or noah, but via bay and jackal

[junior zephyr]

You're using pvp terms Im not familiar with

[tropic summit]

i guess a video will help you better

[junior zephyr]

But im assuming that somehow his team with less rocket launchers is generating as much burst as I am

[tropic summit]

we just said they've 3 clip RL and a linked soda

if you run your own scarlet, you're feeding them

if they've high CS%, they'll be bursting slightly before you

[junior zephyr]

theyre bursting after me

[tropic summit]

1.9RL and 2RL are on near same burst time frame

[junior zephyr]

my B1 goes off before their B1

[tropic summit]

then it's even easier?

[junior zephyr]

But then my B2 gets blocked by Sodas stun

[tropic summit]

yes because you're not running backup B2

which both mine and kara example fixes

because you force stun on p1 and p2 via taunt

[glad meteor]

Noise noah taunt the soda stun.
Bay is the backup b2
Jackal backup b1

Could also use ade against soda , she cleanse debuffs

[junior zephyr]

I understand that part, Im just talking about why the burst gen is beating me so badly

[glad meteor]

But OL issue most the time

[glad meteor]

Charge speed prob

[tropic summit]

as i said earlier, CS%

charge speed, they shoot faster than you

[junior zephyr]

Alright, Ill fix my charge speed on my guys

[tropic summit]

no all you need is run those examples above

[junior zephyr]

I dont have a bay worth a damn

[tropic summit]

oh rip

you only need 4/4/4 2OL tbh

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/nou-no-u-nou-nou-no-u-no-u-uno-gif-14280467719282018708

[junior zephyr]

Ill try a bit of both, won't hurt to fix my pvpers charge speed anyways

[glad meteor]

The charge speed rock abyss is rough. Good luck

[junior zephyr]

Ive got 600 rocks

[tropic summit]

@swift mango that's where your rocks went

[junior zephyr]

that feels... hella bad to reroll

[quartz rover]

I want that

[swift mango]

Look like you own me 100 rock.

[junior zephyr]

Thats on Jackal

ayyyy noice

[tropic summit]

[junior zephyr]

that was on noah.. for 3 rocks

[tropic summit]

and on 3rd line

dude better watch out when going down the stairs

[junior zephyr]

not on third line

[tropic summit]

oh oke

luckly but not too lucky at least

[junior zephyr]

im just leaving it

[umbral belfry]

[silent grotto]

Is there any improvements i can make on my defense? Ive mostly just copied some teams ive seen here but not sure if they are the most optimal ones.

[junior zephyr]

do more kraken iunno

[tropic summit]

that siren doesn't look linked with scarlet and emi in the same team

[umbral belfry]

but I do it everyday

[tropic summit]

T2 and T3 look fine

[umbral belfry]

I just spend them asap

[junior zephyr]

dont use your rocks for months at a time

[umbral belfry]

oops

[silent grotto]

like this instead?

[tropic summit]

no the issue is that jackal links with the 2 highest atk% units

an attacker will naturally have more atk than a supporter

running 2 attackers will mean siren is very likely not linked

an easy fix would be for you to just swap emilia and xmaiden

emilia can go in SBS team, xmaiden in emilia's place in scarlet team

xmaiden being a defender will likely have less atk% than siren a supporter

at that point you've siren linked with jackal, together with scarlet

linked = she shares dmg with scarlet and jackal, can be used in p1 and p2 safely

[silent grotto]

yea checked the atk and you are right

[silent grotto]

siren was lower

[junior zephyr]

thats fun

[silent grotto]

thanks for the help!

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[quartz rover]

viper, noise, or rumani

[tropic summit]

what is this horror

1. you're not bursting with rosanna
2. you're not bursting with blanc

[quartz rover]

this is a wishlist, idk which is better for pvp

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[silent grotto]

actually while im at it, could you check my attack as well if you dont mind?

[tropic summit]

i thought you meant as a team

[quartz rover]

I would put a nikke I own but they dont have dupes

[junior zephyr]

welp I added like.. 50% charge speed

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 are both fine attack teams as long as you know when and where to use them

T3 has the same issue as before

scarlet RH and emilia will contest link with jackal

if scarlet and RH are linked, you're good

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/qrs24v_uD64?si=kt4CFjcGHJbk0fRs

[junior zephyr]

...

[umbral belfry]

wait what replays

[tropic summit]

[junior zephyr]

Somehow.. with 50% charge speed... I still lost the b1-b2 versus their B1 for the first time fight... but I still won?

[spiral onyx]

[silent grotto]

they are my emi is kinda bad, mostly just have her the for some burst gain

[tropic summit]

hmm then it might be fine

you can check on blabla with their raw atk and add the %atk

or run shooting range and she who gets the buff

[junior zephyr]

Am.. so confused

[silent grotto]

does the atk stat in game not include atk% bonus from lines?

[umbral crown]

noise

[tropic summit]

the easier way is shooting range, then go into the menu and check the buff who it is applied to

since it gets applied as soon as you enter, it's easy to find out

[quartz rover]

thanks

[silent grotto]

yea scarlet doesnt get it

[glad meteor]

https://nikke.work/

this calculator can help you determine how fast you burst frame wise. If using phone, kind of need to use landscape

[tropic summit]

ensure scarlet has decent OLs and fix that lineup with a flex battery that does not steal her link

[glad meteor]

You can input individual cs lines of your nikkes

[thin perch]

Are there any nikkes that buff the party’s charge speed if I pair them with Emilia in arena? I I’ve got Emilia at 22.98% charge speed with the adjudant cube.

I want to get to 24.7%

[silent grotto]

would xmaiden be enough for 2RL (not sure if i even had it to begin with) or should i go with anis

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina rh anis jackal guarantees 2RL
scarlet trina rh xmaiden jackal will get you 2RL via feed

although if opponent was to run no feed team at all, it may be left at 2.5RL, but at that point the team was gonna lose anyway to anti nuke

as you can guess if on attack, that's easy to tell as you can tailor it as needed

[silent grotto]

yea then im thinking ill just go with xmaiden to boost my CP then, seems like the best choice right?

[tropic summit]

the main target for you is to fix scarlet being linked

unlinked scarlet is a death sentence

[silent grotto]

with xmaiden she now is

[tropic summit]

yep

[silent grotto]

oh yea that scarlet link is making a huge difference now

thanks a bunch ♥️

[tropic summit]

i'm more concerned you've been running her unlinked so far

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[umbral crown]

has SU said something aboiut the replay issue in CA?

[glad meteor]

Blame bay patch

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

what do you mean, not working as intended

[silent grotto]

its been quite hectic doing pvp, praying that she survives long enough for burst. Just thought i hadnt invested enough in teams to the point that CP was destroying me

[umbral crown]

wanna watch a cinema that happened there

[glad meteor]

Time to imagine it in your head

[tropic summit]

life will get way easier now for you

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

K broke it

[glad meteor]

[spiral onyx]

They need to fix the version check

So it only checks on major version changes, not every minor patch

[umbral crown]

i see, maybe it will take a while

[spiral onyx]

They probably won't do anything unless enough people complain

[tropic summit]

and SU interest in pvp is exceptionally high

[umbral crown]

but we the pvp gang are smol

[umbral belfry]

🤏

something tells me they're gonna patch something else before results and we won't see the replays again

[wise horizon]

I can stay in Top 3 but barely as I have people teaming up on me now. thinking of updating my SP arena defense teams to this:
Scarlet/LaplaceT/Blanc/Trina/Jackal
Rumani/Centi/Cinderella/HelmT/Noise
Noah/Biscuit/SBS/RH/Emilia

any suggestions?

[umbral crown]

cindy team has no sustain or a way to defend having centi as the B2 bursting

[tropic summit]

T1 move scarlet away from p1 unless you've the right ammo count, add linked siren for more pressure on anti nukes
T2 probably ok
T3 this team is too slow

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-so-small-gif-14287965

[oblique ridge]

So I dug around a bit. Turns out even Bay p1 can still work

Just risky and she might die before she can absorb the AoE nuke

[umbral crown]

i wanna see how poli works as P1

[oblique ridge]

There was a Noah that got stunned and killed with what looks like about 20% cover left. 0% hp though In p1

[oblique ridge]

So in theory if that was Bay, and Siren wasn't there to screw things up, Bay would've blocked the Scarlet AoE nuke

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[oblique ridge]

But in another fight, the p1 lost all cover. Brutally. So ... living dangerously it is

[vapid basin]

Hi I'm a newer player (3months) to nikke, i've been able to stay top 3 in rookie and keep dia1 in SP arena, but I fear my position is going to be lost at this rate, could I get some help to understand what I could improve for my defense?

[tropic summit]

post your box without nikke selected, ordered by strength, makes it easier to tell what you can run

[oblique ridge]

Is this essentially a cover repair? Instant cover repair?

■ Affects self.
Cover's Max HP ▲ 18% of the caster's Max HP, lasts for 20 sec.

[gritty ridge]

They changed up their lowest team to have scar trina and it didnt help them at all

[glad meteor]

Shouldnt be

[oblique ridge]

Easy way to test right? If Bay uses this in Shooting Range, (it's her burst), and her cover has a gap as if cover took damage, it's RIP not instant repair

[vapid basin]

mb, I've got 6 synchro slots left and some gear left to equip if that helps

[glad meteor]

Shooting range barely does damage

[gritty ridge]

I think this is a little ridiculous

[gritty ridge]

Test it in sim room

As long as you dont have buffs should be easy to test

[tropic summit]

naga viper cindy helmt (phase 2, s1 lvl 10) liter
scarlet trina anchorIM mana siren
auto (high CP leftovers)

finish helmT treasure phase 2 and raise her s1 to lvl 10 and u can run the above, which should be somewat decent at your current synch

obviously wishlist and get asap jackal and noah

get your teams reviewed once those 2 join you

[vapid basin]

thank you 😄

oh actually I have 2 quantum cubes, 2 adjutant cubes and 2 vigor cubes, is there anyone specifically I should commit those to?

[tropic summit]

for the teams above none need them yet, although you can give vigor to viper and trina

rest just run highest lvl cube available

[vapid basin]

alright, thanks!

[umbral crown]

thanks

[wise horizon]

Blanc/Emilia/RH/Centi/Biscuit
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani
Jackal/Scarlet/Trina/XMaiden/LaplaceT

@umbral crown @tropic summit
Better?

[umbral crown]

looks fine to me, give a try

[swift mango]

Almost there.... I need to recharge first.

[oblique ridge]

Tested it. It doesn't seem to instant repair. The cover bar went up, but woefully smaller than 9% (Bay's 1/1/1) and might be because of the actual cover repair she has, not the max hp bump

Since 9% is roughly one-tenth, one would expect an appreciable, noticeable bump in cover bar

[swift mango]

So just visual bug

[oblique ridge]

~~It looked more like this triggered (first tick at 0 sec, I guess)

■ Activates when Full Burst ends. Affects self.
Constantly recovers Cover's HP by 2.88% of caster's final Max HP every 1 sec for 5 sec~~

[swift mango]

full burst end.

[oblique ridge]

Oh

Hmm

Then it might be still possible

Inconclusive

Need an isolated boss fight so I can be more certain... to Anomaly Interception I go!

Before and after Bay lvl1 burst

Okay, it instant repairs

[swift mango]

That's not cover repair effect, she still has cover. It's the cover HP up effect.

[tropic summit]

oh yeah looks way better

good job

[oblique ridge]

Better comparison

[oblique ridge]

True, I guess I shouldn't call it repair... but I was asking if cover HP up acts like an instant repair

[gritty ridge]

Once yall get more results lemme know, cuz im deciding between her and tove first rn

[swift mango]

Today I have pretty good luck. Finally getting 3rd ele line for Cindy. And Bay to sr15 pretty cheap. 6 to 10. 12 to 15.

[swift mango]

I see

[oblique ridge]

If it's 50% cover, and there's a gain of 10% max cover, it'd still stay at 50%, right?

If it's 90% cover, and there's a gain of 10% max cover, if it didn't "heal" the cover, then suppose it was 100 max cover, + 10 = 110 max cover, and was previously 90 cover, and didn't gain any, the % would look like it dropped. Not increased.

But if it increased to 100 cover, 100 / 110 = 91% rounded up It's an increase

So if we have an observable increase, it repaired

[tropic summit]

@swift mango @umbral crown @keen vapor

This time he really gonna get 🧱

someone forgot to claim

[glad meteor]

Its like noise. But for cover

[oblique ridge]

Anyhoo, this means when Bay bursts, if she has lvl10 burst, she'll abruptly "repair" for about 20% cover (in terms of her max hp) unless it's already destroyed

[tropic summit]

real brickening incoming

[swift mango]

She gain cover HP equal to her max hp %, which has actually more HP than the cover. So 18% is actually more than 18% cover HP increase.

[oblique ridge]

That's nice then, so a very high HP Bay - with SR15 doll/treasure to boot - would "repair" more than expected

Time to max lvl her boots

j/k, not doing that... yet

[tropic summit]

you still shouldn't use bay in p1 tho

[oblique ridge]

Why not?

[tropic summit]

siren exists

[oblique ridge]

Be faster

[tropic summit]

11%CS whole team bay?

damn you guys are something else

[glad meteor]

Bay treasure can rebuild cover

[swift mango]

Easy, my base line for CS is 11%.

My bay actually 11% few weeks ago already.

[crystal flicker]

You guys don't build 18% CS?

What even Bay 2RL comp

[swift mango]

I'm poor. Don't need to edge me.

My mystichydra rival has all his units 17% already.

[tropic summit]

bay 1.9RL team or go home

[swift mango]

1.8

[gritty ridge]

Does 2.5 rl bay counter 2rl scar?

[crystal flicker]

no

[glad meteor]

I need to spend rocks on cindy for mc s9 just to fail again

[crystal flicker]

2.5RL B2 needs 25% CS to counter natural 2RL

And not possible if 2RL has CS%

[swift mango]

I got 3 ele on cindy just to have stable stage 7 runs.

Is Cindy better with 3 ammo? Or I should ditch one of her ammo?

[crystal flicker]

I seriously needs Biscuit to run with Blanc, but SG can punish 2.5 Cindy sobad

[swift mango]

My 4.5rl Cindy has 100% win rate against SG.

[crystal flicker]

Biscuitless ain't gonna win

[swift mango]

yes It has biscuit.

Use Blanc with Rapu or Jackal.

You don't use Blanc in Biscuit in CA in this economy.

unless it's Blanc+Biscuit+Midhara

[crystal flicker]

Yeh, I can't do any

I tried Jackaless Scarlet, taste pretty bad

[swift mango]

But I'm winning just fine, granted my Scarlet is core +3.

losing mirror is fine, she still win vast majority of other match up.

[crystal flicker]

My matchup pretty bad apparently, I can't take that much of risk

I need to do something with Blanc comp

[swift mango]

It putting all your horse in one cart. Scarlet with Jackal still lose to most counter anyway. Bring jackal to other team mean you have higher win chance for that team.

Sure you can luck out with your 3 strong team and 2 weak team but 5 evenly strong team is better with complement bad luck to me.

[crystal flicker]

That's the thing, my Scarlet always win coz nobody run 2RL Noah or Blanc lol

They have extra CS

[gritty ridge]

So ill need 2rl bay to counter scar later

And then I can use noah for cindy teams

[swift mango]

My 4.5 RL Midhara just beat scarlet today.
My 2rl Emi beat scarlet+trina for breakfast.
My 2rl ReiT+Blanc also beat scarlet trina.
My SG sometime beat scarlet too.
If I'm lucky and met bad invested scarlet, my Scarlet without Jackal could win as well

All of my team has a chance to win agaisnt 2rl scar+trina,

[tropic summit]

2RL indom also wins against 2RL scarlet

fix your indom and you won't need bay for those matchups

although you'll need blanc on SR5 and maybe temperance to avoid dying to RNG s2

[crystal flicker]

You have Emi

https://tenor.com/view/you-work-at-google-i-google-at-work-we-are-not-the-same-samedov-meme-gif-10428184631020974122

[gritty ridge]

True

Bay useful for anyone other than scar?

She can eat Helms burst but most likely you'll die to the normal fire after

Cuz they get to heal

[tropic summit]

she can be used for stall teams (DR stacking), for example together with moran or noise

[oblique ridge]

With treasure, she is. She has one of the better team healing per second. Beating Rapunzel I think, if not counting Rapunzel passive or burst

Rapunzel heals 3 allies, can include herself in that, with lowest hp

Bay heals 4 allies, excluding herself

[tropic summit]

2 on top of my head

[oblique ridge]

And both are 4% it seems?

[pale knoll]

Is sbs bypassing noah biscuit going to remain? 👀

[oblique ridge]

So Bay heals well, if you liked Rapunzel normal heals, as long as Bay isn’t being murdered

[tropic summit]

let me ask my colleague working in SU

[pale knoll]

Sure, will wait

[tropic summit]

jokes aside, who knows

[raven plover]

if they heal, then you heal too

[tropic summit]

maybe one day they'll tell you it's working as intended

[pale knoll]

I always found it weird that distributed dmg could be taunted tbh

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor clock is ticking

[oblique ridge]

He didn’t even do his dailies

Outrageous

[tropic summit]

indeed, i warned him in time

[grim grove]

What are you actually get for winning rounds in championship arena?

[rose oracle]

why is that frog smoking a blunt?

[keen vapor]

Thanks for your worries

[umbral crown]

my cheapest unit to max doll was soda, 60 blues from SR0 to SR15

[keen vapor]

Arena tickets

[swift mango]

No need to rub it

The lowest I have known of was 40 blue from one guy on reddit.

They sound like fairy tale that won't ever happened to me.

My lowest was 80 blue from sr0 to sr5.

Yeah, I haven't gotten 80 blue from R0 to r15 even,

[gritty ridge]

My lowest was 10 purple 30 blue from sr0 to sr15

But it was dolla

[swift mango]

Still not as lucky as that reddit dude, too 🧱 time to reroll.

[gritty ridge]

At least bready and ein dont particularly need sr15 dolls

Because they're both more niche than rh and helm

[umbral crown]

SR0 is the way bloood

trust the process

[umbral belfry]

it's a trap

me, who has done it

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

This was scary

[swift mango]

Because that frog is a hobo.

[swift mango]

frame and your name on the TV.

[quartz rover]

sp arena is annoying

keep getting pushed to diamond 1

[umbral belfry]

blood has been on TV 2 times now

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[umbral belfry]

winning CA twice I mean

only once for me

[gritty ridge]

Oh lmao

Clearly ill win next ca

[quartz rover]

can I make a better team than this? just wanna chill in 1 on beginner arena in peace

[gritty ridge]

Whats your roster

[quartz rover]

this dude is making it difficult cause he's putting his pve team in here and just out powers me

[umbral belfry]

sounds like it might be a gearing/doll issue at this point

[quartz rover]

i'm assuming pve

[umbral crown]

harran max doll

boi is seeing the future

[gritty ridge]

Harran in pve is down in the trenches

[umbral belfry]

bc that team is very slow and easy to beat assuming same/near gear level

but for your level, with that team, the only one really worth dolling and gearing for now is rh

blanc sure if you use her in pve with rouge or noir

[gritty ridge]

Could potentially be a better team they could make tho

[quartz rover]

here's what I have to work with

I have more but the power probably matters most so I sorted by that

[umbral belfry]

could try adding rrh to pad your cp but youre team speed will decrease

[crystal flicker]

Do you think this gonna work fine

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

kinda sus

[quartz rover]

how can i increase my speed while also being annoying

[gritty ridge]

Noah is the easiest way on any team

[umbral belfry]

it's a matter of increasing your gear on your current team

[umbral belfry]

bc this is not a good team lol

[gritty ridge]

If you have Noah on your team I already dont wanna attack you

[quartz rover]

wouldnt adding rrh do it then

[umbral belfry]

that's what I suggested yes, but your team speed will decrease by a lot

but it could also just be trying a better team as well

[umbral belfry]

does rh even get indom?

[quartz rover]

no, Jackal does

[umbral belfry]

figured :(

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Thats why I can't run jackal blanc too

[umbral belfry]

using siren is one option to stop moran

[quartz rover]

she also pads my power too

[gritty ridge]

Its looking like trina is the most replaceable but that drastically lowers speed

[umbral belfry]

but yeah your main problem is gearing, but I also don't recommend putting your dolls on pure pvp units right now

[quartz rover]

I have some nice dolls but like

theyre missing the r versions

[gritty ridge]

We have solo raid soon

[crystal flicker]

Against 2RL

[quartz rover]

that's why my crown has no doll even if I have a ssr

[gritty ridge]

Hime you wanna rate my defense in spa?

[quartz rover]

oh nvm I used the doll on rrh

[umbral belfry]

sure

[umbral belfry]

good choice to use on her it's okay

[quartz rover]

so what should I try running?

how do I fit siren into my comp

[gritty ridge]

I cooked all the teams myself

[umbral crown]

noah p5 is better than p4

[gritty ridge]

Oh? How come

I assumed her position didnt matter much cuz noise taunt

[quartz rover]

would blanc/rh/siren/trina/jackal work?

[gritty ridge]

It would, but who would jackal link with? Rh and siren?

[umbral belfry]

you honestly don't have much options if you want to maintain decent speed

[quartz rover]

what is jackals link req again

[gritty ridge]

Highest attack

[umbral belfry]

blanc won't work bc your jackal doesn't have gear/doll which leads to misindom

[quartz rover]

rh and siren yeah

[umbral belfry]

you could exchange centi for jackal though

they feed you heavy

[quartz rover]

this is my power then

[umbral belfry]

but if you're cp-gapped you'll still lose

[quartz rover]

its also 3 speed

[umbral belfry]

you're going to get jackal indom

[gritty ridge]

Blanc is not needed in this comp, shes only slowing you down

[umbral belfry]

but if your rh can clear before they burst at 4rl it's fine. but you're playing a heavy risk with blanc knowing jackal will get the indom

[gritty ridge]

You could run crown, rh, siren, biscuit, jackal

Its slower but biscuit should keep you alive to burst

[quartz rover]

I just need 106236 power for no deficit

[gritty ridge]

Siren could be replaced with centi or trina tbh

[umbral belfry]

good job for cooking on your self

t1 could be better but for what it's worth currently not bad. easy target for jackal though

t2 absolutely not

t3 acceptable but noah either in p2 or p5

[gritty ridge]

T2 is just my leftovers

[umbral belfry]

no better options at all?

[gritty ridge]

Not at anything decent for cp

[umbral belfry]

f

[gritty ridge]

I can definitely make better teams but I have to work with who ive got invested

[quartz rover]

[gritty ridge]

So i can keep a decent cp

[quartz rover]

lets watch the results

[gritty ridge]

This would work quite well

[umbral belfry]

centi cqn be jackal

[quartz rover]

I quick battled oops

[gritty ridge]

You can watch replay

[quartz rover]

I won the quick play then lost the second time????

[gritty ridge]

I wouldnt personally reccomend rapi b3 tho, its pretty slow to clear a team

[umbral belfry]

he doesn't have much options unfortunately

[quartz rover]

this dumb harran

[gritty ridge]

Try centi, rh, trina, biscuit, rapi

[umbral belfry]

he'd risk being cp happed

[gritty ridge]

In that order

[umbral belfry]

rapi cannot br p5. sg will kill

needs to be a defender

[quartz rover]

centi gets put to half hp before burst

I think what saves her is biscuit

[umbral belfry]

you get it

[gritty ridge]

Thats what we run biscuit for

[umbral belfry]

that's why you need a defender + bisc to stall long enough

if you don't run a defender in p5 those sgs will kill whoever is there

[gritty ridge]

Centi biscuit rh rrh trina

[umbral belfry]

trina is not a defender

[gritty ridge]

Jackal instead of trina

[umbral belfry]

but jackal could work

[quartz rover]

can I rosanna their ass

[umbral belfry]

no bc rh is burst 1

and you likely won't kill them

[gritty ridge]

I havent looked at her if im being honest

[quartz rover]

what if I moron

[gritty ridge]

Try centi biscuit rh rrh jackal

[umbral belfry]

she can stall, yes. but in p5. you're better off using jackal bc you will go beyond 3rl

they give you mega feed with moran and 2 sgs

but check cp first

[gritty ridge]

Btw does rh b3 counter stall teams?

Cuz its 10 seconds of stupid high damage

[umbral belfry]

not noah bisc

[quartz rover]

the power seems fine

[gritty ridge]

Yeah give it a shot

[umbral belfry]

get em

[gritty ridge]

Should beat moran nero?

As long as no jackal on your team at least

[umbral belfry]

it beats moran bay helmt, nero stall idk

[quartz rover]

showing this bozo what a easy bake oven is like

[gritty ridge]

If they have helmT youd have to have someone higher attack than rh

[umbral belfry]

did you win

[gritty ridge]

Congrats

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

why do I randomly win defense and lose defense? is it taunts or harran?

[gritty ridge]

Because their defense team and attacking team may be different

[quartz rover]

I doubt they're using a different team

[umbral belfry]

rng

[quartz rover]

we're only 160

[umbral belfry]

they could

but you have no way of knowing

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

It helps me tho because nobody knows im actually sniping their cp pad and not their 2 low cp teams

[quartz rover]

it's funny cause I'll attack them, lose, finish day hitting someone else, check back next day and they attack me and lose then stop

[gritty ridge]

Be glad you dont have to deal with this

[umbral belfry]

jumped by helm's squad

just missing an anchor

[gritty ridge]

Miranda has beef with the admire I guess

[quartz rover]

anchor is on their way, just got lost

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

She got distracted by a cool starfish

[quartz rover]

but yeah I'd like to see them try to gap me now that I'm using some of my pve nikke

[gritty ridge]

I cant even gap my rookie arena cuz i have a permanent whale

[quartz rover]

that sucks

gotta make them miserable and spend more

[gritty ridge]

They're also in my spa, they attacked me so I had to eat en

This match was not fun to watch tho

[quartz rover]

eve???

[gritty ridge]

Its not even a good team, they just have so much cp

[quartz rover]

looks like my sp arena top few

they have SO much power, no idea where it came from

[gritty ridge]

This is my rookie

My team is low cp but it has biscuit so its deceptive

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna see if I can beat kron actually

[quartz rover]

I think I win the long run cause I'm highest hard and story so my outpost scales better

bless crown and rrh

[gritty ridge]

What if I just toss my campaign team into pvp

[rich ledge]

Oo thanks haha my EIN team needs to change to smth else next time what can I build?

[rich ledge]

Unless ur CP is way above other people if not you won't win

[gritty ridge]

I could be 3rd highest cp in my rookie

But im already ranked 3rd anyway

[quartz rover]

just keep baiting them with biscuit

[swift mango]

Descent enough to win against some weak Scarlet team at least.

[quick lake]

cp gap

[swift mango]

Somehow I missed this comment.

@keen vapor

[umbral crown]

as always

[umbral crown]

my bay is 18

[gritty ridge]

I got 2 bay copies, I can work on treasure now

[swift mango]

Are you using her this CA?

[umbral crown]

of course, in SG team

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

were you expecting a cook for 2 RL bay?

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[swift mango]

No but bay Rossanna isn't actually really good.

[umbral crown]

but CA is about to make crazy cooks work

[swift mango]

It is one of the common Anne copium. Not very crazy.

[umbral crown]

but my viper is phase 3 so re enter, thats the crazy part

probably

[swift mango]

She will be sacc.

[umbral crown]

nah, my viper does not really die as sac anymore