pvp-arena

[thin perch]

But on another note how is everyone using their Noah now that siren soft counters p1?

[tropic summit]

noah in p2 with noise taunt priority team
noah in p5 with p1 B1

scarlet p1 with less or 28 ammo

or p1 jackal, p2 siren, p5 scarlet

there's plenty of methods

[thin perch]

Should I chop my scarlet ammo since I don’t use her outside of arena?

[tropic summit]

that's an option to avoid having to deal with scarlet positioning

[wild drum]

could someone help me sp arena i don't understand why i'm losing so hard

theres no way my units are this bad 😭

[tropic summit]

post your box and your 3 teams, 4 pictures at once maximun

[thin perch]

I have a black line on scarlet max ammo though 😬

[limber rampart]

In the 4 new treasures, is there any Nikke that is strong in pvp?

[tropic summit]

not any core pvp unit, at best slight improvement on poli and bay

[umbral belfry]

it's time to say goodbye to naga from my sg comp once i finish gearing up poli

[tropic summit]

SG team eating well... drakeT, viperT, poliT

tons of raw stats

[umbral belfry]

[wild drum]

The last team was autoed

[tropic summit]

oh you're low synchro no wonders then

[limber rampart]

long time no see, u have upgraded from railtracer to enriched railtracer?💪

[wild drum]

they're outpowering me?

[tropic summit]

yes and no

[wild drum]

my team suck?

[tropic summit]

at that synchro you need to focus on pve units

now if you're lucky those pve units also happen to be decent or at least usable in pvp

[wild drum]

oh so no payday gem yet

[tropic summit]

in your case those units are mostly non pvp oriented

[wild drum]

oh thats prolly why i lost to a guy healing 1485 health per shot

[tropic summit]

just keep playing for now and try again in 1 or 2 weeks when you've more units

[wild drum]

hmm ok its cuz i wanna get all the gems possible for the events coming up i heard like the summer stuff and anniversary and then apparently winter

i just got lucky i 10 pulled dorothy ig

[tropic summit]

you're looking for:

scarlet, jackal, trina, biscuit, noah, cinderella, RH, noise

you can consider wishlisting at least these

would also help getting centi, rumani and helm (treasured), the treasured units will come way later for you

[tropic summit]

yeh it's just a meme anyway

[wild drum]

i already have a wishlist setup so yeah idk i guess i'll wait a week and check back

[tropic summit]

getting RH/RRH/cindy/SBS will drastically speed your progression as you can push easier in deficit

[wild drum]

i rlly want redhood but luck has been only alright lately

[thin perch]

Can scarlet still solo finish a team under Blanc invulnerability with 28 ammo?

[tropic summit]

she'll be less effective if anything as she'll be reloading more often

then again indom scarlet has seen less usage overall

glass cannon scarlet, stun scarlet, rosanna scarlet have maybe more usage as of late

[quartz rover]

Wish I had scarlet

Or grave

[tropic summit]

💳

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

I got the wrong scarlet and don't even use her 😦

[umbral belfry]

should still gear her, sbs is pretty good still

[thin perch]

I’m trying out this 2.5 rl Scarlet team with Drake as it usually reaches 2 rl through Jackal Feed but I realize now scarlet can get stunned here

[quartz rover]

I leveled her skills to 4 and put some gear on her, heard she's nice for kraken

But I also dont need kraken rn, I need t9m

[umbral belfry]

you will

sbs is still great in pve though, and good for pvp as long as you don't run into a noah/moran + bisc

[quartz rover]

I've not been told to use sbs in pvp yet so I probably cant make a team with her, or I have better options

[tropic summit]

you don't need jackal in p5 here

jackal scarlet blanc trina drake

p1 p2 p5 still remain linked for feed

p1 B1 is non stunnable at 2RL, scarlet is safe

[thin perch]

I thought stun hits before 2rl?

[tropic summit]

B1 at 2RL does not get stunned in time

[oak gale]

[tropic summit]

you can watch this for reference

#pvp-arena message

2nd match, watch B1 going off AND then getting stunned

this also serves as a very quick demo of how to avoid the stun and how you'd also avoid stun via jackal (as she's a B1)

[thin perch]

When exactly does siren stun trigger?

[tropic summit]

slightly before of 2RL

[modern lichen]

could someone please help me with sp arena teams?

[thin perch]

Ah so she’ll stop b2 or b3?

[tropic summit]

this one shows noah timing on 2RL being stunned

[thin perch]

So siren stun will effectively hit between b1 and b2?

[tropic summit]

she stops B2 and B3 on 2RL, B1 and B2 on 3RL, B3 is probably dead on 3RL because they'll burst first

[thin perch]

What about Moran in P1?

[tropic summit]

moran p1 at 2RL is not stunned

[tropic summit]

scarlet mari noir liter jackal
noise siren cindy helmt noah
blanc emi rh biscuit centi

wishlist trina
raise CP for nikke marked in 2nd SS

get your teams reviewed once rumani and trina are available and properly built

[modern lichen]

im willing to build up rumani and others if that helps

and i do already have trina WL, just waiting zzz

[tropic summit]

ye we could use her for less feed oriented teams

RL do not feed scar/jack teams and she'd also possibly raise a team to 2RL

as for trina, fingers crossed, she'd boost scarlet heavily

also enables run siren in scarlet team instead

[modern lichen]

what should i build rumani to? OLs + 4/4/4?

[tropic summit]

4OL, R15-SR5, 4/4/4

CS% as OL is additionally welcome

15% would be the optimal

[modern lichen]

sounds good

who would she replace on those teams

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i think scar invest alone will hard carry alt pvp

That being said, top 4 are like 60 sync above me and have c7 units i dont think i can ca......
2 of them has sr15 moran nero in def

[tropic summit]

you're looking to promote a team to 2RL, either scarlet or cindy

[fathom rock]

Buddy gave up on me

Maybe reshuffle

[tropic summit]

cindy is the easier one until you've trina

[signal hull]

The whales are undefeated, unbeatable. Accept thy fate, little one.

[fathom rock]

Time to invest sr or rosanna

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Man i need to decide the fate of my alt

Am about to do an echo

And hoard at this rate

[tropic summit]

nero moran teams at synchro 311

little sweaties there

[fathom rock]

I think i should steer away from pvp

[tropic summit]

plus all the dolls are in place

the good thing it's low cores

[fathom rock]

Ca already has some peeps ahead of my global

Hmm lemme check qualifierz

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

[nocturne hemlock]

Need to build a pvp team. Got points and skills to dedicate

[tropic summit]

rumani, trina, noah, biscuit, blanc need to be in synchro, 4OL, R15-SR5, 4/4/4

trina 4/7/7 would be ideal
blanc 4/4/10 would be ideal

[nocturne hemlock]

Best possible team with my roster?

[tropic summit]

should that assume that you get the above built?

[nocturne hemlock]

I can and will

[nocturne hemlock]

Actually what’s the R15-SR5 for

[tropic summit]

noise rumani cindy helmt noah
siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal
blanc sbs pepper biscuit centi

optimizations:

-jackal on 15%CS
-siren needs to be linked (holds 2nd highest atk%, essentially after scarlet, OL included)
-noah has at least 4-6% more CS% than noise
-SBS has doll SR15

[tropic summit]

doll tier, R15-SR5 should be the thresholds you aiming minimun to for ANY of the units

B3s and p1s should be SR15

[nocturne hemlock]

Damn pvp is a whole other thing 😭

[tropic summit]

if you're unfamiliar with the basics, i suggest to read these:

#pvp-arena message

either way teams above are pretty optimized/late game, take ur time building toward them

T1 and T2 should be your priority, T3 you could run a CP gap team instead for a while

(since T1 and T2 also doubledown as one of the best attack teams)

[nocturne hemlock]

Kk thank you

[gritty ridge]

I think i win this?

[tropic summit]

slow team, unprotected single B2 in p1, they can't burst

[gritty ridge]

Coolio, thanx

[strong hull]

In cooking

[gritty ridge]

Im back

Eventually they should give up, right?

[primal widget]

someone help me make a good team for round 3 in sp arena

or whole squad if anyone has time

[gritty ridge]

This guy has hands down the worst teams in the top 10, they need to stop trying for top 5

Wtf

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

[scarlet adder]

how many m's to feel safe and guy probably left :D?

ok nevermind this is crap 😄 he just attacked someone

[sterile latch]

@tropic summit would you be so kind as to let me know what team for offense and defense should I have in both SP arena and rookie arena? I have the materials I can invest in a LOT of NIKKEs. Anyone also can reply.

[umbral crown]

Nice, hope it works for you

[primal widget]

anyone?

[quartz rover]

Did someone make a team for the first two? May just auto for it because it doesnt matter too much since you only need two wins

[tropic summit]

i made your teams 3 days ago

#pvp-arena message

[primal widget]

I have more nikkes now

[tropic summit]

run this for the time being, as you don't have many options yet

for 3rd team

[primal widget]

isn't Noise good?

tier list says she is SS in pvp

[sleek imp]

Burst gen tank

[quartz rover]

I dont know the nikke or pvp too much but I know certain nikke shine when paired with others

[tropic summit]

she is but not with little invest and at your synch

[quartz rover]

Probably don't have it or requires too much investment

[primal widget]

is that regular mihara or bonding chain?

[tropic summit]

SP defense
siren scarlet trina emilia jackal
naga centi cind helmt noise
noah biscuit sbs rh xmaiden

raise CP for marked units
trina in synchro, 4OL, R15 or SR5, 4/7/7

can consider laplaceT, can consider invest in rosanna to 7/10/10 SR5 atk20-30%

note:

-once rumani is CP ready can improve T2 to 2RL

noise centi cind helmt rumani

Attack
for attack you'll mostly use a variation of scarlet with trina and a variation of noah with helmt

very generic speaking

scarlet trina rh flex jackal (2RL or 3RL) against non noah and non bay teams, can use siren variation if noah is in p1 or if you running siren linked and it's a noah taunt priority
noah biscuit cind helmt rumani (2RL) against nukers and non sustain/stalls, although can deal with some variations of stall

[tropic summit]

bonding chain

[umbral crown]

@swift mango ez

The other boi with 3.6 has pve teams

[covert lintel]

I'll lose even if i advance from league
Fahrenheit near my group and i placed random team

[umbral crown]

Its BOOM time

[umbral crown]

I have not checked other brackets yet

[swift mango]

Hobo in your group.

What is Fahren

[gritty ridge]

They moved around their teams, I think they think their cp pad is winning

[umbral crown]

I checked the bois, i feel its my time to win this season

For tournament i will face the last winner and he is running same teams same placements, mine counters most of them

Probably 4-1 like i did to first CA winner in Season 3

[swift mango]

That's some big check.

64*4=256 players

[covert lintel]

I mean league group
That determine who I will face after advancing
Mine 62 and he's in 58

[swift mango]

people now looking at the whole board now rather than just their current place.

Too big brain for me.

[swift mango]

congratz in advance.

Gonna get Bay treasure and change my team next season.

[umbral belfry]

confident rosy

[umbral crown]

Thanks, always trust your investments

[umbral crown]

Will you also max skill her?

I probably will

[umbral crown]

Mostly checked the people i have lost in old seasons , now i counter them all

[keen vapor]

so you will after all?

[quartz rover]

Must be nice

I can't even treasure helm

[keen vapor]

Someday you will

[crystal flicker]

Cindy T2 really became a trend in my bracket, even though I already randomise it lmao

[quartz rover]

How does Nero moran thing work

Does it require investment

[crystal flicker]

Very high investment

[quartz rover]

Does it work

Obviously cant do it anytime soon but would be funny to torture my bracket

[quick lake]

It works, but very investment heavy

SR15 Nero and Moran 10/10/10, required Quiry/Helm/Rapun at 15%++ CS

Good ol lines on Rapun too

[quartz rover]

Is it unstoppable

[quick lake]

Rather unstoppable when invested well. Only 1 team comp, Scar Trina RH regularly wins it

[quartz rover]

I take it most "best" teams involve a scarlet

[quick lake]

The two best teams right now are Scar-Trina-Soda/Siren and Nero-Moran teams imo

[quartz rover]

Maybe ill get lucky in standard and snag a scarlet

[quick lake]

But there is no fool-proof team in pvp. With the right teams, all defense can be cracked

[quartz rover]

So far I've gotten 2 moron dupes and a jackal dupe

[gritty ridge]

If I missed a day but took 4th for a majority of my time in spa, will I still get ca?

[quick lake]

If u can create CA teams, u should be able to participate

[dim escarp]

It's over for them

[umbral crown]

indeed

[gritty ridge]

Im talking about after this season in spa

Ive kept 4th a majority of the time since day 2

[umbral crown]

now keep it for the next 10 days

[quick lake]

This season's CA has begun and team setting is already over. U can check in the CA page if ur teams have qualified

[umbral crown]

if at this point he does not know then do not think he did

[gritty ridge]

This is what im talking abt

Im not in this current ca

[umbral crown]

then you know what to do

beat them all

[swift mango]

Why not?

[swift mango]

Idk, skill 1-3 maybe

[keen vapor]

I felt mocked by all your :hmmz : on my Bay messages

[swift mango]

I think it's more about your se*ual preference than gameplay investment.

Maybe

[umbral crown]

all max, thatys the way

[swift mango]

I probably only 1077 her.

[keen vapor]

Oh so that was all huh?

[umbral crown]

mine is already 7-7-7, i will finish bunny soda max then bay next one to max skill

[quick lake]

I just got Jackal and Noah to sr15

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-excellent-sly-gif-15090441131025470920

now max skill noah for a better pleasure

[quick lake]

mine already 774

[swift mango]

I wish I had the mats

[crystal flicker]

Peak comp

I still need to roll some ATK ELE for La+, but she's 18% cs already

[coarse lake]

who tf is 5

[umbral crown]

but also 1

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/laplus-ラプラス-ダークネス-ホロライブ-hololive-gif-1010457421034517468

1 is nero
5 is laplus

nero fgo
laplus darkness vtuber

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

I;ve been saving for a long while

[coarse lake]

using demon vtuber for laplus is just wrong

[crystal flicker]

Both kusogaki

[quick lake]

pvp GM? Time to apply for pvp MA

[crystal flicker]

It's what the frame said
And I can't take more responsibility

[quick lake]

Champ soon

[gritty ridge]

So how are ca brackets formed? Is it still based on account creation?

[quick lake]

yes, account creation

[umbral crown]

Yes

[alpine cradle]

are you able to see the images now?
https://imgur.com/a/8amzRPh
i have a imgur link as well
@keen vapor

[onyx scaffold]

lap+

[warped cedar]

Given how they addressed in an ingame notice that TBay's effects arent working. Once they are fixed between her and TPoli, which of their treasures would be worth building 1st?

[raven plover]

its already fixed like 14 hours ago

if we talking about spa (sp arena), poli wont be used really cus SG and water. bay still useful, but then again bay with or without treasure doesnt change much

[untold tapir]

Who should pair Biscuit with in PVP?

Also what would suggest for pvp teams with my current roster?

[rich quail]

Such excellence from Shifty Up

[quick lake]

Alice Blanc HelmT Centi Jackal
Drake Naga Pepper Liter Noir
Auto

Wishlist Trina Rumani Scarlet Noah

[untold tapir]

What mean by Auto?

Just anything with auto?

[quick lake]

Yep! Click the auto button let them create the team for u

don’t worry too much about PVP for now, just focus on pushing campaign as far as possible

[swift mango]

mine noah 10105

[swift mango]

with treasure she could be more like budget Noah.

P1 with biscuit and still block wipe.

It's could be a life changer for Noah bricked peeps.

[raven plover]

I dont have her phase 3, but looking at 20% cover hp and shes p1, cover gonna poof before you she can block wipe

[swift mango]

not if same speed teams, B2 to b3 isn't that far apart.

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

20% cover + 18% max hp is good enough. 0.32 RL between phase won't break them.

[raven plover]

surely

[swift mango]

I serious wished they release Bay treasure 7 months ago when I was still Noah bricked and had to use bay.

[elder raven]

Does new doro with shotgun good at pvp?

[umbral crown]

really?

[umbral crown]

do not think so

[coarse lake]

still waiting for someone to test

who wants to p3 their bay asap and brick their acc

[quick lake]

champion things

[umbral crown]

Do not think people have enough mats to phase 3 her

It does not letme create more for some reason

Mine is phase 2

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[rustic sandal]

@quick lake just pinging looking for help with special arena still if willing, thank you!

[quick lake]

SBS Blanc THelm Centi Jackal
for rookie

[swift mango]

A biscuited bay's cover won't take any normal attack dmg from unit like Scarlet, and 0.32 RL isn't enough for enemy RL to break anything.

[coarse lake]

then how are enemy rls gonna break bay cover in the first place

also it's the non-biscuit that worries me, cover could just break from the link dmg share

if you have to bay biscuit to deal with scar something's wrong

[rustic sandal]

Yea ty I made it my rookie team already. I also made it one of my sp arena teams. But not 100% on the two other teams...

Crown, Rapi: Red Hood, Cinderlla, Alice, Naga

S:BS, Blanc, THelm, Centi, Jackal

Scarlet, Trina, Biscuit, Siren, Rapunzel

First one is just mostly for the highest cp

[quick lake]

Can send ur units again

[swift mango]

Noah could go with Noise.

Biscuit in CA needs someone to pair with. Ofc for someone who believes Moran+Biscuit+S.Anis is meta in CA, they won't need to look at Bay.

[coarse lake]

a bay biscuit with the job of blocking scar in champ (biscuit is wasted, but that aside), will require helmt

[primal charm]

noah now maybe not be able to stop sbs, bay is better there perhap

[coarse lake]

3rl bay biscuit is useless in champ

[coarse lake]

so a team like this

except you can just run this

[swift mango]

Bug doesn't count, just need to wait for them to fix. They even fixed Delta mid CA.

[quick lake]

Scar Siren Trina Centi Jackal
Blanc SBS Biscuit Thelm Liter
Auto

Wishlist Noah Rumani
Trina to 1/7/4
Biscuit to 4/4/4

[coarse lake]

the only bay comp where bay position was a headache was 3-4rl moran/rumani bay biscuit bscar setup, and that's only for invuln sake for post-burst

which is... completely irrelevant in champ

I have not encountered any others

[swift mango]

You could actually put 2 defender p1-2. Instead of bricking position like these.

[coarse lake]

that's just example, shouldn't matter anyway

[rustic sandal]

Ty this is so helpful I was going insane tryna figure out the best combos since im missing some meta units. What would the third team im aiming for be ?

[coarse lake]

if someone with bay phase3 can prove that p1 bay without biscuit will always have cover available for same speed nuke (esp vs scar due to strong autos + counters), ok phase3 has a use, if you ever somehow need that specific use

[quick lake]

3rd team, just auto and use the highest CP unit to CP gap the opponent Can come back once u have Rumani/Noah

[coarse lake]

on the other hand, if running no-biscuit and you rely on post burst stall (as you should in champ), like moran bay helmt, you don't want bay in p1 p2 simply bc she can't heal herself

so you already want her in p3/p4 to make use of p1

[swift mango]

Scar doesn't do anything to a biscuit'ed Bay's cover.

I already used her before treasure against Scarlet that way before.

0x100000=0

[coarse lake]

your teammates still taking dmg

unless biscuit invuln somehow also applies to bay cover

[swift mango]

Just bring full RL team

[coarse lake]

there's also the case where cover is at like 5% hp when you burst

then you don't get rebuild, it's as if you never treasured

[swift mango]

Well, then it would be able to be healed by 18% bay max HP and survive.

[coarse lake]

that would happen even without treasure

and it still has to deal with the linked dmg share between b2 and b3

[swift mango]

The treasure cover the worst case scenario of no more cover to heal back.

[swift mango]

If p1+2 defender then it's mostly no prob

[coarse lake]

if proven to always let you block cover against every nuke that safe position can, ok, it's worth it in very specific comps (idk what) where you do absolutely want her p1, that's the best case scenario

I'm doubtful it's gonna be consistent enough to even risk it

oh yeah there's also siren concerns which has no fix for her

[swift mango]

To be frank I have 1-2 comps in mind for her that make use of her healing. So I won't press her p1 too much now.

[swift mango]

2rl with CS is fine

Siren ignore

[coarse lake]

instead of just... using a better team position

like I just don't see p1 bay being actually practical, and worth the costs to get there especially

[swift mango]

There is no need because my bay is 11% CS. All of my built RL are.

[swift mango]

Oh well, the team in my mind isn't p1 bay biscuit.

But it was my Def when I was Noah bricked.

Sometime her cover busted before she burst and Scarlet wipe the team. Sometime her cover survive until she burst and I won.

It was the story of 8 months ago.

[coarse lake]

p2/p3 bay wasn't viable?

[swift mango]

Need someone p1 to tank the scarlet. It was before Trina, scarlet team wasn't 2rl. And Moran would feed her to 2rl instead

[coarse lake]

hmm, yeah can't relate as a noah haver

although bscar god with bay might have been ok, that uses any position bay

never actually tested it

[cunning crown]

am I hoping or coping that soda falls down early and rosie/viper win matches before the full burst I bricked is even necessary

[coarse lake]

couldn't you have done this

this one should definitely win vs 3rl indom scar

[swift mango]

Bay B1 is because I need someone to stop normal attack my defend team. Noise isn't a defender she would die there anyway. And the result come to Bay b2-5 the same. Biscuit team need defender in P1 and not Noise p1.

Moran was for another team. Because Noah bricked and feed

[coarse lake]

noise linked with jackal

this was pre-rumani yeah?

[swift mango]

Jackal is another team. You don't have many options pre Rumani.

I don't even have Rapu then and now. Blanc could only work with Jackal.

[coarse lake]

ok in that specific situation where rumani, jackal, noah are all not available, vs indom scar, ok I can see it

but like... these days that really shouldn't be a thing

[swift mango]

Rumani is worse burst 1 comparing to Noise anyway. In a stall team you wanted Noise to burst.

[coarse lake]

prob don't need a b1 sustain if you got bay biscuit

although I suppose you lose double bay invuln

but I would just use noise in the first place anyway

[swift mango]

You do, because your opponent would just crush you with SBS or ASS otherwise.

You don't have control over what they attack you with.

[coarse lake]

bay biscuit as a def team? that's... an interesting choice

there was an era where I think CN popularized it, saw similar comps all over

they were never a concern as long as you got emi

actually very easy to beat, and these days you just 2rl scar nuke anyway

[swift mango]

Because Noah, Jackal, Rapu bricked. I forgot my Jackal also bricked.

I still used Bay after I got Jackal though. But not mandatory anymore.

[coarse lake]

I don't think I ever seriously used bay in sp, simply found other solutions

[swift mango]

It's still do just fine.

[swift mango]

Because you have it.

[coarse lake]

luck issue

although I'll be trying out p3 bay this champ anyway

where phase 1 actually does something since p1 p2 taking all the beating

[swift mango]

What trying out? Moran+HelmT+Bay was meta since season one.

I guess NA server was just slow because everyone copying Keripo who don't use it.

[coarse lake]

I couldnt fit in moran since couldn't spare an extra clip rl

noise/pascal/bay/helmt/lapt, although saved without treasure bc I woke to up bug being fixed after champ got locked

pascal's heal potency should help things out

[swift mango]

Nero is more meta now so maybe you don't need to. You only have 1 Moran.

Unless you don't have Nero built and Moran isn't maxed skill.

[coarse lake]

I'm not building nero moran, too expensive

I was hoping they gave bay extra gen

but whatever, they hate bay, so it's aight, will deal with it

[swift mango]

You can't skim on investment if you wanted to be champed. Luck is a big factor sure but sometimes you get close wim thanks to investment. That's a big factor of getting through and not.

[swift mango]

I mean, even if you don't invest in Nero, you should still max skill Moran and Noise.

[coarse lake]

I'll do it when it actually matters in a matchup

my noise is maxed already

moran is at 7, but I'm not even using moran atm

I'm not out here wanting to win at all costs, that's called a generational pve brick

if the return on investment (in this case odds of winning champ) isn't big enough compared to invest cost, I ain't doing it

nero is easily not worth it atm

[primal charm]

Beside nero comp what is the other usage for moran

[covert lintel]

Tanking motherwhale's mob

[swift mango]

2rl bay
ASS team
Midhara team

And.... Tanking mother whale's mob.

[crystal flicker]

Biscuit SAnis comp

Tanking BS vomit too

[primal charm]

Do drake s2 buff bsoda burst dmg chat

[swift mango]

No

[primal charm]

Thats suck man they write drake s2 atk buff entering full burst tho

And do xmaiden buff scar burst dmg

[coarse lake]

no

[primal charm]

[coarse lake]

most nukes happen at b3 stage, which is right before full burst

you need a nuke that is delayed

[primal charm]

Only noir do the task

[swift mango]

Rossana 787 minimum. Want 71010

Mana as much as you want to.

They could be used together

[shell hazel]

what skill levels for treasure poli should I aim for?

@spiral onyx what is your Poli invest like if you don't mind answering 🙂

it's probably the next thing I'll build with upcoming solo raid

[steep parrot]

oki, now that I got story team at least settled, what team could I make for pvp?

[covert lintel]

747 or 10410

[shell hazel]

thanks, burst is always the one I struggle with due to resources but skill 1 is easy enough

[tropic summit]

nothing as of yet, although you've a good starting deck

[tropic summit]

centi biscuit noise scarlet noir blanc naga rh rrh and helm(treasured) will be your picks down the line

wishlist jackal, noah and cinderella if possible, trina and rumani aswell

[covert lintel]

The most important is skill 1, so tbh burst&s2 can be whatever you want it

[tropic summit]

pick either a CP pad version (the 2 flex put w/e) or a faster but toned down ver (it needs batteries which you won't invest in so early in the game)

[steep parrot]

hmm, so nothing really to use except my current chars then?

[tropic summit]

campaign team will be your best rookie team for a while

SParena you'll be able to make 2 teams and 1 cp pad early on

[steep parrot]

[tropic summit]

for now just focus on getting your campaign team maxed out, progress is king in this game

push deficit with naga crown rh as much as you can

[strong hull]

Rail-chan

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

Where did you get that

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

I wanted to breed Daiwa

Tell me what do i need.

[tropic summit]

i've a fine daiwa

in fact i think she was my highest score

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

9* power, 9* speed parents

deck i used for her

[tropic summit]

borrow MLB kitasan

then just spd sta pow wit

[strong hull]

No super freak?

[tropic summit]

didn't need her, she has a lot of recovery blue skills

gourmand/corner recovery/straight recovery

or her native skills are also ok

stamina on rank C should suffice

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

all 10's and 43% atk

[spiral onyx]

She protecc

[tropic summit]

good luck taking keripo as example

[spiral onyx]

She attacc

And then finally, she snacc

[shell hazel]

I need to see where the top is

she snaccing good there

[tropic summit]

ya good luck

[shell hazel]

I can probably get to basic build during next SR all the same

10/4/7 with some OL and treasure phase 2 probably

I have her item in my dispatch and enough materials to trade out for extras, but not enough for p3 yet

[tropic summit]

finally bones

[wind kelp]

Bones also helped me finish up trina, and get helm her fav item(just missing 13 or so from maxing that out, and OL levels and gems). Trina was enough to tune def teams so i kept at 4 for atleast one battle 😄

Although, i do need to invest in tower/campaign teams, those are firmly stuckeded.

Once i get Helm built, as i don't have RH, and rumani is WAY off in the distance, replace alice with Helm and i think it's not bad for a F2P 1.5 year gaming 😄

[glad meteor]

No b1 in t1

[harsh lily]

It's so nice to see her favorite item lobby, all Nikkes should have them one day

[wind kelp]

Oh right you are, i think i changed alice to Rapi already XD

[wind kelp]

Phew, thanks for pointing that out, had to double check and i DID have alice still there Now it's Rapipi

[tropic summit]

further advise for your future

T1 emi indom with RRH B1 generally won't be lethal, it also further makes the team weak to scarlet with blanc + RRH feed
T2 it's your OK team, but will be skipped
T3 weak to again scarlet but also to noah (feed and nuke oriented)

consider improving CS%, reducing feed and increasing speed (helm treasure asap)

"your defense is as good as your 2 worse teams", keep it in mind

[harsh lily]

It's been three days since I climbed the number one spot in my rookie arena, and I'm surprised that no one has yet to dethrone me - even more surprising considering most of them have higher BP than me:

Are they trolling me? Because I have yet to lift a finger on fighting any of them in fear that they'll instantly beat me down a notch lol

[tropic summit]

rookie is more of a practice ground than actual competitive

rewards are near the same regardless of rank and most ppl just get their 5 easy wins and be done with it

probably noone wants to bother using their head to beat your team i assume

[harsh lily]

But I have a feeling that they can definitely easily beat my team tho, look at the BP difference alone, makes me nervous lol

[tropic summit]

you've not yet broken the lvl 160 wall, regardless they'd CP gap you

[crystal flicker]

That mean she doesn't

It would be hot topic there if she does

It's sad though these new treasures didn't fit to my CA well, since none of them gave gen+ or off burst boost which I'm lacking for the last CA comp

[crystal flicker]

Jackal Ein MMast Anis Noir
Blanc ScarBS Biscuit Pepper Poli
Auto
Treasure your Helm for better comp

[keen vapor]

Finally

[keen vapor]

@alpine cradle third team auto

[alpine cradle]

Doing gods work

[keen vapor]

But third client never showed up their target

@whole pawn WHERE'S CHALLENGER 10 DEFENSE TEAMS

[whole pawn]

mora like dia 1 xd wait I m driving

[keen vapor]

Diamond 3 can -.......... Wait, you said driving? be careful

[whole pawn]

dw I just reached home

[whole pawn]

it seems like I can't update them yet, since I m oling bay and Rapunzel rn, I don't have noah sadly

I sent a photo 2 times

[keen vapor]

use anis instead of Tia

We need speed on Trina teams

[keen vapor]

Now, show the defense of highest target

[dim escarp]

gud

[vapid lake]

??????

[dim escarp]

yeah can't replay too

I saw keripo having the bug too like 2 CA ago

painfull

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

knew you had good teams

4-1, 5-0, 4-1

[dim escarp]

soda work

[shell hazel]

I've loved to have watched this one

[dim escarp]

yeah that's unfortunate

same for one of my lose

[vapid lake]

i can't even watch the replay to see wtf happened here

[dim escarp]

Anis solo

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit @swift mango watch out for my outpost

[placid bloom]

hmm I think I'm gg next round, bracket pairing is consecutive group winner right?

so if I'm group 35 I fight group 36 winner?

[vapid lake]

i stayed up to be slapped in the face by classic shiftup's buggy shit game

shoulda just went to sleep

[oblique ridge]

Everyone's favorite thing to see in CA, amirite

[oblique ridge]

@lunar pawn @swift mango @vapid lake take my pings of fury over unavailable replays

[hollow eagle]

did they fix the distributed dmg/biscuit bug?

[oblique ridge]

I wanted to ping 20 more commanders but I ran out of patience

[oblique ridge]

What's this bug?

[hollow eagle]

#1395785592494886923 message

I guess that's a no then

[oblique ridge]

Damn

Idk if it's fixed but that hurts to look at

[umbral belfry]

can't see replays

[hollow eagle]

version issue is probably the distributed bug

[oblique ridge]

Well, in positive news, despite the unavailable replay.. I broke out of groups again

My quest to get more silver frames continues

[whole pawn]

def of highest target? chal 8?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[whole pawn]

the cp difference is massive

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Nah, not that big

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry it wasn't revenge route... it was NPC ROUTE

Done with CA

[umbral belfry]

omg

FOLIANNNNNN

your time will come

[placid bloom]

it's okay I think I am facing cup next round so I am joining you

[umbral belfry]

kuwon

maybe you have some counter matches

[placid bloom]

don't think I do

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

cuz I think the SBS bug not fixed? So not walled by Rumani Biscuit

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon unlucky sir

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I died?

[shell hazel]

yeah

[keen vapor]

Use Scarlet team against Cindy

Against Scarlet use Noise Helm Bay Ice Maiden Rumani

[hollow lagoon]

Nah

Every time I lose I get this

Game needs to bug out for me to lose

[whole pawn]

i have used sbs indom against scar and scar against cindy, and won

[shell hazel]

yeah the replay thing sucks

[keen vapor]

I see

[whole pawn]

i m building bay now , and i will treasure her too, soon she will join

[keen vapor]

You don't need treasure to block scar nuke

[whole pawn]

is that so? i though its a good thing to have , even for cp paading. well idk which treasure i should go for so i though maybe bay since i wanna fix my pvp

[frank leaf]

is new Doro good for PVP ?

[whole pawn]

have they fixed bay treasure?

[oblique ridge]

Yes, but apparently may have broken preventing distributed dmg from slaughtering others even if BScarlet is taunted onto an invincible tank

So BScarlet value went up unless they fixed this new problem

[whole pawn]

is it worth to go for it, i m kinda lost which treasure i should focus on

[oblique ridge]

Unclear, it's a choice

[whole pawn]

[oblique ridge]

Bay can be difficult to utilize if you have your heart set on Nero + Moran

[whole pawn]

i dont have noah so i though i can cope with bay

[oblique ridge]

She's like Noah in that she needs to B2 burst in time before enemy B3, but also unlike Noah in that she needs her cover to be intact and she still takes damage leading up to the enemy B3 burst

So p1 Bay could basically drop dead where Noah would be fine

[whole pawn]

[oblique ridge]

More testing is needed to better understand if Bay can do more when she has p2 or p3 treasure

But first we need a victim willing to take the plunge and actually get there And then also sharing the results

[dim escarp]

oof, got Rui in my bracket

[keen vapor]

I want a fix for pvp too

[keen vapor]

Not really

[whole pawn]

idk if this actually convincing to build bay

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

What is this again?

[keen vapor]

The game got me out after 24 hours of not closing it bc I didn't wanted to update

They're gonna put up another update anyways

[swift mango]

Good luck.

[keen vapor]

I still haven't converted treasure mats

[whole pawn]

well i only have one treasure

[umbral belfry]

bay treasure doesn't seem much like an upgrade from non-treasure imo

[frank leaf]

thanks ... then i'll only get 1 copy

[umbral belfry]

it's not a gamechanger in other words

[keen vapor]

Cocoa pog

[whole pawn]

so do i stop at sr 5?

[keen vapor]

What does it change on phase 3

[quick lake]

CA season again

Forgot to update my teams

[umbral belfry]

is that the small healing?

[keen vapor]

Replays unwatchable

[keen vapor]

That's phase 1

[quick lake]

Yeah unfortunately

[umbral belfry]

up to you really, I just don't think bay treasure is a huge upgrade

[keen vapor]

Nvm, phase 3 is rebuild cover

[umbral belfry]

yeah she really doesn't change much 😭 she's still dying during fb or after

[quick lake]

Bay/Poli kinda mid

Needa focus on the other key charas

[whole pawn]

i was atalking about her doll invtestment , not treasure

[keen vapor]

Poli has fluff

[umbral belfry]

Well dolls are needed for treasure, but SR5 is a good stopping point

[fathom rock]

What da sw doin

[quick lake]

Just R0 to SR5 optionally. Bay not used as often in SPA either ways

[keen vapor]

I did

[whole pawn]

thats whta i wanted to know, if i cant treasure her, atleat i can invest a bit in her doll for cp

[whole pawn]

i dont have noah, i have to use her

[quick lake]

Gold standard is SR5 all pvp units for the dmg reduction

[fathom rock]

I think we same pvp bracket btw

[umbral belfry]

are we?

[shell hazel]

I'm attacking, might be fine, their t1/t2 a little bit underwhelming, looks like they put all their eggs in 3-5

[whole pawn]

so i dont have to treasure any pvp unit?

[keen vapor]

SR5 SR Anis and Neon

[umbral belfry]

I'm in group 1

[quick lake]

Yep. no need to. Bay and Poli not necessary. LaplaceT more impt

[fathom rock]

Just helm

[whole pawn]

ig i will use bay without treasure then

[fathom rock]

@umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

me who treasured PoliT to replace naga

[umbral belfry]

that's me

[shell hazel]

I will do the same

[quick lake]

That is fine, u pvp-er. You do u

[crystal flicker]

T1 ReiT makes me doubt Moran can tank the Nuke, T2 Win, T3 lose from counter, T4 Idk if I can kill Nero before anything could happen, T5 Win

[quick lake]

Hime’s frames all so nice

[whole pawn]

how much time would it takje to make sg team to use tove?

[umbral belfry]

[fathom rock]

How much timw would it take you to treasure tove and invest doroS boda?

[umbral belfry]

gotta color code them to match

[crystal flicker]

I was worried about Sora, and now I'm worried about AAA (the earliest CA finalist lol)

[keen vapor]

Boba

[whole pawn]

maybe?

[fathom rock]

My bracket has 3 ca winners here, byebye pvp ill invest sr from now on its decided

[umbral belfry]

sir I'm not sure you win

you're bottom right?

[shell hazel]

not sure either haha

[whole pawn]

does treasuring drake is included?

[shell hazel]

t3 shotgun into defenders with biscuit, depends if ros can snipe SBS at least

[swift mango]

Helm, lap, drake

[umbral belfry]

lock in 🗣️

[crystal flicker]

Do you think SG can kill Nero before Moran burst

[keen vapor]

If you didn't overloaded Tove you could have your PvP defense more padded

[fathom rock]

She in a wierd position rn pve as sdoro+ tove still want boda
But pvp she have semi use when you bring out sg

[umbral belfry]

maybe if viper was a bit stronger on ele but I'm not 100% sure. I'm gonna lean no

[whole pawn]

is drqke treqsure even used for pvp?

[fathom rock]

Sir thats my alt i havent invested anything outside campaign yet

[swift mango]

CA

[keen vapor]

maybe not

[quick lake]

Mostly just for CA. Not for SPA

[whole pawn]

yep there is no way i m joining ca anytime soon

[quick lake]

Same few units to work for in SPA. Can check pins. Building teams with high cs% also helps

[whole pawn]

not sure if i should really start making sg team or not, i d rather max doll other units , like asukaw and sdoro

maybe i should start with treasuring tove, or else i d rather sr 5 every key unit i have

so i wont be wasting too much ressources on a single unit at a time

[quick lake]

SG comp wants SR15 Tove Drake SDoro

expensive team

[fathom rock]

This whale alone gatekeeps me from ca

[rose plaza]

Anyone willing to take the time and help me make 3 teams (ATK & DEF) for Special Arena? I've had the same teams for a long time and now I'm starting to drop below Diamond rank. I'm not aiming for top 100, I'd just like to remain in Diamond.

[umbral belfry]

T1 ? noise may or may not be dead before burst depending on invest, then you have to worry about siren stunning either her or noah. but if noise dies it's gg
T2 W
T3 Likely L, but maybe W if rosa ohkos sbs? xmaid will burst though
T4 L
T5 ? idk what this team is😭 I've only seen merry use it, something with mihara bug? it's against a scar though so I'm gonna assume L

[quick lake]

Can send ur full roster sorted by cp

[fathom rock]

Send your unit list

[rose plaza]

Ok, let me do that

[shell hazel]

t5 bug ran against scar/jack so it might repro 😄

I'm trying it for fun

[umbral belfry]

pray it does

idk how it works but gl

[quick lake]

I think I might lose round 1, but oh well

[shell hazel]

it's 2RL my noise is pretty tanky, she'll taunt one or two SG, think she can burst

[crystal flicker]

What about this, can stall tank ReiT?

[umbral belfry]

lock in rheax

[short moon]

Are overload lines for pvp the same as pvp?

[whole pawn]

i mean thats another reason i didnt wanna make sg, its so expensive, but i want to use doro properly

[shell hazel]

I think I win at least 1 and 2, and maybe one other

my scar into 2rl cindy is dead though

[umbral belfry]

I hope you're right, bc if not

yeah that's unlucky lmao

[quick lake]

Yeah, sDoro only works best in SG comp

[whole pawn]

i heard she kinda works in crown team

[shell hazel]

I have unlucky counters on this matchup in general tbh

my best team arguably being stall is against their worst one

[quick lake]

My SG team facing opponent jackal

[umbral belfry]

huh?

[umbral belfry]

maybe rosa will clutch

[shell hazel]

damage share is broken though

[placid bloom]

damage share not broken

[umbral belfry]

it looks like it was working for my noise noah jackal team

[placid bloom]

just Biscuit invin is broken

[short moon]

Like if you are focused on pvp, would overload lines be different or no one bothers changing OL lines since expensive

[umbral belfry]

but I won't know bc I CANT SEE THE REPLAYS 🗣️

[placid bloom]

but who is using Biscuit with Jackal

[quick lake]

pvp players have specialised rolls. Generally cs% OL on RL units. Depends on how much u wanna invest(waste)

[umbral belfry]

that would depend on the unit(s) in question

but usually for pvp(like RLs) we aim for CS like rheax said.

Some SRs can use it too like especially helm

[short moon]

Any other special lines? Or mainly just charge speed

[umbral belfry]

me when I invest into stall team

[umbral belfry]

that would depend on the unit you had in mind

but usually common ones are atk and ele dmg

[shell hazel]

it's fine I don't need to win again I just want loser frame, I voted for the other guy so if I win I get through, if they win I can try and get the loser frame

[quick lake]

Scarlet likes atk/crit rate/ammo
Emilia likes the same
Laplace 4ele atk cs
all SR/RL wants 4x cs
Rapun wants 4cs def
Moran optionally 4atk/def
@short moon

[crystal flicker]

I can't find pvp video of ReiT comp

[umbral belfry]

emi where

[umbral belfry]

I know that rei nuke hits like a truck, but she wants blanc and rh no?

siren is gonna stun that nero though so oof

but I haven't seen rei vs nero stall so I can't really common. I just know rei nuke hits hard

[quick lake]

It works. Either Blanc or RH buff works

[crystal flicker]

Mostly RH is needed yes

[quick lake]

Blood ran that team when he champion iirc

[crystal flicker]

Nero doesn't really needed tbh, just Moran burst that will get purified by Blanc

[umbral belfry]

moran def rolls have been avoiding me like the plague, i keep getting blue atk

yeah it's hard to say

[quick lake]

Atk works too. Def really not needed

I think most impt unit is Monster Laplace/xMaid/Emilia

[umbral belfry]

she doesn't need ? but she's a tank

my lap is still baby I need to work on cs for her

[quick lake]

Very very marginal gain. Like 50% def maybe reduces dmg like 5-7%

Not worth it imo

[shell hazel]

my lap has some CS but no real stats otherwise lol

[umbral belfry]

we're the opposite

[quick lake]

Better to 4 ele/atk/15% cs laplace imo

[umbral belfry]

I think im at 2 ele and 2 atk lap, but with some cdmg and charge dmg

[shell hazel]

I'm going to try to finish HelmT first as I want her with some good lines

more rocks before next CA

[umbral belfry]

one day I'll fish for cs

[quick lake]

xmaiden also worthwhile to hyperinvest

Super hard hitters

[shell hazel]

yeah I did mine a bit also needs rolls

scarlet does as well lol

need way more rocks than I have 😦

[quick lake]

Scarlet not that impt. Just 4x atk, cheaper

[shell hazel]

I think I have 0 x atk lol

[quick lake]

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[quick lake]

pvp investments never end

[shell hazel]

she still slays

just she'd slay even better with some atk

I have 10/10/10 and +3 ish OL gear

[umbral belfry]

I have sm to build

[crystal flicker]

So I still have 36.71% damage reduction against Blanc comp

[shell hazel]

😦

[umbral belfry]

[wicked horizon]

Does that website y'all keep using have a CA mode?

[umbral belfry]

the deck?

[wicked horizon]

I wouldn't know.

[umbral belfry]

or the other fancy site

both can put 5 teams so yes

[quick lake]

Just a regular 5 team builder

[wicked horizon]

I can't find it.

[umbral belfry]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[tropic summit]

⏰

[wicked horizon]

I mean the 5v5 display.

[umbral belfry]

[rich ledge]

Am I so cooked?

[umbral belfry]

https://nikke.work/ this?

if not those two than idk

[wicked horizon]

I haven't used either, like I said, I wouldn't know.

[shell hazel]

5vs5 view is from nikke deck site

[umbral belfry]

both of these have 5 vs 5, so it works

[wicked horizon]

I only have 1

[shell hazel]

if you save two decks you can use the deck vs deck on left side

[tropic summit]

step 1) save the 2 decks
step 2) put them against each others
step 3) objective reached

[wicked horizon]

But that's still 1 vs 1?

[umbral belfry]

at the top

[keen vapor]

Rail

[umbral belfry]

rails arrows

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, that's where the image I sent is from.

[tropic summit]

surely you're not gonna wait for 95%

[wicked horizon]

It's 1v1? Where do I add the other 4 teams on both sides?

[tropic summit]

you can't be serious

[wicked horizon]

You want me to share my screen? There's no button for this.

[umbral belfry]

you have to manually input teach them, then press save

and do the same for the 2nd team

[tropic summit]

starting to think torn needs directions on how to change his pants

[umbral belfry]

be nice

[tropic summit]

i've ran out of arrows

[keen vapor]

maybe

[wicked horizon]

Oh, the teams are all part of one data structure.

Jeez

I got it now, thanks Hime.

[worldly osprey]

@swift mango no more blanc got stun form soda

[harsh arch]

I think Nero is much better than TBay and TPoli

[wicked horizon]

[keen vapor]

Nero the strongest

[swift mango]

I think they don't want both of us getting out of top 16 anymore.

Like 4 seasons in a round already.

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, I'm tanking that ReiT Blanc

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

But now it would be scarlet.

[umbral belfry]

[rose plaza]

Anyone willing to take the time and help me make 3 teams (ATK & DEF) for Special Arena? I've had the same teams for a long time and now I'm starting to drop below Diamond rank. I'm not aiming for top 100, I'd just like to remain in Diamond.

(Save the image for higher quality)

[wicked horizon]

I can tell you that you only need 2 attack teams for SPA, since you only need to win 2 out of the 3 fights.

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

It's already account 50% ATK from OL too

So it's pretty well

[umbral belfry]

I'm horrible with math and numbers, I did that emote bc idek what I'm looking at

[quartz rover]

why did I lose this

I bursted first but alice got stunned before she could burst

[quick lake]

Siren stuns

[tropic summit]

siren stuns p1, also shotguns are shooting your p5 and it seems you indomed jackal

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, she got stunned, so you didn't burst.

[umbral belfry]

looks like jackal got indom?

[quartz rover]

what determines the indom

[tropic summit]

alice is a bad target to indom via jackal because she has self sustain

[wicked horizon]

Lowest health

[quick lake]

lowest hp unit at that point in time

[quartz rover]

my alice has 1 in self sustain

[tropic summit]

your jackal also needs to be higher hp than alice

[quartz rover]

that's kinda hard

[placid bloom]

I don't think you got indom at all the damage taken is too low, I think you just died before you could even indom

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

straight up killed through links

[tropic summit]

it's not hard, jackal + indom target + linked unit should all be equal invest, 4OL, same or higher doll on jackal

[crystal flicker]

Someone actually copying my SG Comp

[placid bloom]

[placid bloom]

wait they can't B2

[umbral belfry]

how are they gonna fb though

[placid bloom]

they have ViperT

[crystal flicker]

Yeah

[quartz rover]

I just got my rrh full OL, I cant do that

[tropic summit]

viperT stage 2 hopefully

[placid bloom]

[crystal flicker]

Product 23 is B2

[placid bloom]

no it's black doll

[umbral belfry]

it's black, that's phase 3 no?

[tropic summit]

ripperoni wait till they find out

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

surely product 23 lives

[placid bloom]

man shoulda built Poli

[quartz rover]

also looks like team 1 is cooked, biscuit + many tank

[umbral belfry]

wait he put a doll on p23

[crystal flicker]

It's fine for defender strat

[swift mango]

Pinne is the reason you lose SG mirror. So stop using her already.

[crystal flicker]

I won tho

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna build poli for him trust

[swift mango]

You will lose against SG without Pinne.

[quartz rover]

also I cant doll my jackal

[quick lake]

Scar Laplace Trina xMaiden Rumani
Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise
SBS Blanc RH Biscuit Jackal

[quartz rover]

does anyone know if my team 1 is ok vs that?

pretty much all but jackal have skill investment cause I used them for pve

[umbral belfry]

alice vs defender + bisc is usually a bad call no?

idk if lud taunts though

[quartz rover]

my alice is 10/1/10

[placid bloom]

Lud does taunt

[quick lake]

Yes, invuln biscuit

[umbral belfry]

defender + bisc vs alice is usually a loss. that's a hard counter

[rose plaza]

Same for DEF?

[umbral belfry]

alice will do nothing vs a taunting defender protected by bisc

[quartz rover]

can I swap team 3 to 1?

[placid bloom]

their team looks slow though, Lud might not burst before getting stunned

[quick lake]

Yes. By right you tailor ur attack teams to ur opponents. The teams i sent u are primarily for defence

[placid bloom]

it's 2 SG + Biscuit

[quartz rover]

rh is like 7/10/10 and maid priv is 1/1/4

[umbral belfry]

pray

[placid bloom]

you are getting fed from Jackal so you will be faster

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina xmaiden sbs
naga centi cindy helmt siren
noah biscuit s.anis rh laplace

notes:

-raise CP on the units in second screenshot
-get your teams reviewed once they're better invested and rumani is ready (you can consult prydwen recommended skill book and OLs)

in particular, you'll want:

-siren to be in scarlet team, needs to have high atk%
-cindy team to be turned with either noah or 2RL with noise and rumani
-noah to be moved from p1, reduce SG usage

[placid bloom]

so if they don't burst they have no taunt, Alice wipes back to front

[quartz rover]

imma run it, worst case scenario I stay diamond 1 today

cooked

they had no chance

lud was stunned before she could do a thing

[umbral belfry]

LMAO really

[placid bloom]

[rose plaza]

@quick lake@tropic summitThank you both, I will play around with those teams. The extra notes are highly apprecited, @tropic summit ❤️

[placid bloom]

you are too lewd for the server to handle

[quick lake]

Light mode discord?

[umbral belfry]

why would that be censored lmfao

[umbral belfry]

listen

[quick lake]

Shi-tty is censored

[tropic summit]

hime chan naughty?

[quartz rover]

I think this person is losing/winning cause the jackal biscuit bug

it's a real gamble sometimes

[tropic summit]

who's linked in there?

[wicked horizon]

It refers to coming onto someone's back, so I think it makes sense.

[quartz rover]

I have no idea

[tropic summit]

RH jackal and?

[quick lake]

Damn, pre-200 sync pvp is wild as usual

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

go into shooting range and check

[umbral belfry]

thank you torn 😭

[placid bloom]

you should always be checking your Jackal links if you're not sure

[umbral belfry]

back in the good op days

[tropic summit]

unless you like to live dangerously and get a biscuit indommed

[tropic summit]

good times using poli liter pmaid biscuit centi

[placid bloom]

it's probably Trina though, supporter and R15 doll

[quartz rover]

trina

[placid bloom]

unless bad gear

[tropic summit]

alrighty

[tropic summit]

so you take jackal, trina and RH max HP and you check who's the lowest, that will tell you who gets indommed

[placid bloom]

I wouldn't be surprised if Trina is lowest HP though, doll diff too big

[quartz rover]

jackal

[tropic summit]

there we go

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

your priority should be fixing jackal HP, OL chest and head

[quick lake]

Priority should be campaign

[quartz rover]

rh is 823k, trina is 689k, jackal is 589k

[tropic summit]

this is where Blood would come in and say "ye but look at Rosy"

[placid bloom]

no Blanc for you

[worldly osprey]

if scar get stun. ur luck will very very very

[eager mountain]

[worldly osprey]

time to show soda or rh better

[quartz rover]

what does a kraken team look likw

[eager mountain]

Campaign normal then kraken+hard

[quartz rover]

sorry, wrong channel

[harsh arch]

How to beat this team Moran-Nero- THelm-Rapunzel-Xmaiden?

[quick lake]

Scar Trina RH Nuuuuuke

[harsh arch]

They survived

[tropic summit]

SBS, a good B1, a good B2, a backup good wind carry, helmt

e.g.

siren crown sbs alice helmt
siren crown sbs asuka helmt

rrh crown sbs alice naga can still also work, less effectively

[eager mountain]

Well, helmt is pretty replaceable, the rest are all set

[worthy knoll]

Didn't I tell you should use Blanc for no chances of surviving to happen

[umbral belfry]

must be a strong stall team

[tropic summit]

let's check what you running tho

scarlet on 10/x/10, SR15, atk 30-40%
trina on 4/7/7 minimun
rh maxed

?

[quick lake]

I fear the day my nuuuuuuuke wont kill stall

[tropic summit]

i've only seen that nuke fail against b4stial team

rosy stall team got screwed by scar trina rh draket

[quick lake]

yeah same. Scary

[wicked horizon]

Think I could 2RL Scarlet-Mermaid the first team and 2RL Noah-Cinderella the 2nd team?

[glad meteor]

Blanc cindy is good against moran nero

[tropic summit]

remove's the DR via blanc afterall

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina siren flex jackal
skip
noah biscuit cind helmt rumani

you should be familiar at this point with the ABC teams above

[placid bloom]

GL, see you next season @umbral belfry

[tropic summit]

see noah in p1? siren
see scarlet without sustain or indom? def team 2RL

[wicked horizon]

I'll never learn how to fight against Blanc.

[umbral belfry]

kuwon nooo 😭

[swift mango]

Emi+HelmT+Blanc+RH+LapT

[tropic summit]

depends on who's indom, scarlet just need to be kited
s.anis? that needs to be tanked or removed pre burst
emi? you better rosanna that

[placid bloom]

I think it's actually 0-5 loss too

[umbral belfry]

your soda will stun noah and noise

[worthy knoll]

Punish them when you see P1 Blanc

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

at least you'll win that

[wicked horizon]

No luck.

[placid bloom]

nope, Noise will burst and I can't one-shot Noah

[swift mango]

Well, you have a bit higher chance to win against bad biscuit wall with Pinne I guess

[placid bloom]

not with just Trina

[umbral belfry]

is this not a 100% noah noise stun nani

[placid bloom]

well it doesn't beat Noise B1

he'll get the max HP and I can't one-shot Noah

[umbral belfry]

no kuwon I'll believe in your t4

[glad meteor]

Noise stun so pepper burst

[umbral belfry]

yeah

[placid bloom]

unless I am trolling and that's not 2RL

[tropic summit]

looks like you're lacking damage, go for T2 with exact same team instead, T3 unchanged

[umbral belfry]

but the other matches yeah it's up for you 😭

[placid bloom]

I didn't actually check speed

[glad meteor]

3clip rl with jackal should be2rl

[umbral belfry]

you're 2rl

[placid bloom]

his team, not mine

[umbral belfry]

he's 3rl

[placid bloom]

I know mine is 2RL

[umbral belfry]

I ran it before

[tropic summit]

@wicked horizon

p4 can be flex, ensure scarlet stays linked w/e you use, prefer being at least 80% to 2RL

the logic here is that siren will stun blanc, causing biscuit to B2, assuming they even alive anymore as you'll burst at 2RL via being promoted to 2RL by SG feed

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

at least not a full sweep

[glad meteor]

Cindy needs really strong batteries for 2rl, her gen terrible

[tropic summit]

cindy treasure

[placid bloom]

Cinderella should just be able to hit everyone on enemy team at the same time with her normal attacks she is supposed to be artillery after all

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

With enough cs%, 2RL Scar can nuke before opponent's B1 Moran

[tropic summit]

1.9RL

[glad meteor]

cs rolling

[tropic summit]

my rocks are screaming in pain just hearing of those teams

[quick lake]

Hmm actually not that much. Nero + Moran feed jackal enoughh

[wicked horizon]

There's a small problem here.

[tropic summit]

le 20% deficit

[placid bloom]

I think you need to quickly gain 20 levels, ideally 40

[tropic summit]

well