pvp-arena

[calm gull]

Final

[dense kindle]

Okay yea that was my line of thinking as well, so Noah will still taunt and Biscuit keeps her up?

I was also leaning towards him

[crystal flicker]

First time

[calm gull]

its impossible for me in SEA

[glad glade]

She doesn’t even need to taunt. Once noise is down they automatically target noah by default since she’s the next in line. After that, you know what happens next

[calm gull]

any thoughts?

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 weak to siren (p1 blanc and p1 noah)
T3 may also be weak to siren if your scarlet does not meet ammo requirement

this translate in easy to break defense

[placid bloom]

why is that not you

[crystal flicker]

You're smurfing tho

[calm gull]

still...

[calm gull]

I see, any suggestion?

[tropic summit]

fix those weaknesses

1. get noah away from p2 and on noise taunt priority instead (noah needs 6%CS more than noise)
2. run scarlet in p2 or fix her ammo count
3. don't run indom with B2 or B3 in p1

[calm gull]

am trying, still lacks of units and investments

[placid bloom]

your Scarlet team isn't 2RL might wanna swap Mermaid with Jackal or something

[tropic summit]

you know what to work on then

[shell hazel]

stop investing in flora and start investing in pvp Rinn

[calm gull]

no comment

[calm gull]

certainly

[placid bloom]

I think trying to make Blanc team work is a dead cause

[misty jackal]

for the league we are in, are we all accounts like under a year old?

[placid bloom]

yes, everyone is after last summer

[misty jackal]

ok that makes sense, why some key units are just MIA

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter can start investing in clip SG doro soon

[misty jackal]

is it worth investing in A2 or Sanis when they drop?

[placid bloom]

I think early October roughly should be the cutoff

SAnis worth, A2 no

[shell hazel]

only Rinn thinks she is clip SG 😄

[misty jackal]

ok good to know

[misty jackal]

yeah i started in december

[tropic summit]

tbh it's probably a good decision to save up atm until these ladies are revealed properly

[misty jackal]

any other old units to keep an eye out?
emilia if she reruns

[shell hazel]

Bay was already pretty good for pvp so should maybe only be better now

and Poli I think worked OK before so similar, better

[tropic summit]

or they make her B2 into re-enter

[placid bloom]

or she just ends up being CP pad with no change to her function

[tropic summit]

let's not get too optimistic

[shell hazel]

Doro was basically confirmed not Clip SG

[placid bloom]

I mean it's kinda hard to add more functions to someone who has 1 job only, unless they increase her burst gen

[tropic summit]

normal SG but has gimmick that produces more burst gen than helmT

[shell hazel]

could be

[tropic summit]

it could be anything

it could be me

it could be you

[shell hazel]

when will we see the details? I was going to save up materials for now anyway until we know more

[placid bloom]

maybe they reduce her burst cd to 20s or some useless change like Milk

[placid bloom]

I think something like healing cover to full HP on burst would be pretty useful though, makes p1 with Biscuit or p2 more viable

[tropic summit]

sir, best we can do is that cover now is 25% increased

with a chance of bugging out

[placid bloom]

or she could be really busted, increase her dmg reduc on burst to like 50%

don't have to deal with Nero anymore

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel this plays in your T5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcAXtTe7R4o&list=RDfcAXtTe7R4o&start_radio=1

or this actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2alndqSn0&list=RDiQ2alndqSn0&start_radio=1

[shell hazel]

I really don't think I can win, it's tempting to vote the other guy instead of myself so I can finish the frame after 7 CA's 😄

I can't listen atm in the office, I'll check it in a couple of hours

[tropic summit]

trust in yourself

believe in your invest

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

we gave you for deadge 2 matches ago, just gotta pull through this time too

[tropic summit]

meanwhile this lad still trying to get A rank mcqueen

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry pls lock me in

[eternal finch]

dang... too late. I just maxxed Bay out.

[tropic summit]

you did it for a good cause

@swift mango is your body ready for elegg?

[swift mango]

@umbral belfry

I'm done. My homie from that manga finally got their head cannon ending in this game.

[tropic summit]

[eternal finch]

And the PVP. I have to reset Quiry. Not using her and maxxed her out.

[shell hazel]

wow that is an incredibly lucky initial roll lol

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

[swift mango]

My pulls aren't ready

[tropic summit]

should be thinkin' about chubby blondie gamer right now more than husbandos

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

oh noes...

time to 💳

you can't just walk away from your fav waifu

[nimble swan]

@shell hazel you think your nero team can tank cindy?

I saw it will be tough against booba

[shell hazel]

no lol

I think I'm deadge here

bad matchups/guy with lots of cores etc

[tropic summit]

that's what a quitter would say

believe in the invest

[swift mango]

I have the ticket. Only question is if I'm able to MLB her

[shell hazel]

I'm still voting for myself and lol just low expectations I guess

[nimble swan]

Yeah I saw it

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

Oops i was misunderstanding that you into gae stuff blood-kun

[shell hazel]

only 1 of the matches really gives me any true advantage I guess

[strong hull]

Anyway

You free?

[nimble swan]

Expect a 2-3 loss then you will win lol

It worked once

[shell hazel]

[strong hull]

Im dying out there Rail-chan

[umbral belfry]

NOOOOOO ty for the clip tho

[tropic summit]

aren't we all

this game has no mercy on the weak

[strong hull]

Bunch of B+ MCqueen

Anyway i have work for you now Rail-chan

[tropic summit]

1%? fail.
favourite of this race? 13th
stat on 1.1k? gut 1*

[umbral belfry]

hippo u MUST!!!! lock in. how does it look

[umbral belfry]

blood got married

[tropic summit]

it's mrs blood*

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-brave-face-gif-5377249

[umbral belfry]

does it look grim

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry it's not THAT bad

he only needs RNG to sneeze a bit... on 2 matchups

[umbral belfry]

there's hope?

oh

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

hippo start sneezing

[glad glade]

No, thank you for helping me with my cheers. You’re the GOAT

[tropic summit]

Hippo got this

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

you'll get em next time funny cat pfp dude

[umbral belfry]

which one are you?

[shell hazel]

the one not moving dead on the floor

[strong hull]

Ik its unfair now cook me 3 defs.

[shell hazel]

(top/def)

[strong hull]

[umbral belfry]

t5

SURVIVEEEEEE NOISE SURVIVEEEE 🗣️

[shell hazel]

[glad glade]

This time I’m gonna actually try at CA and win the frame with my own victories. My Rosa is at 7/10/10 and Moran is at 10/7/8. Just need more code manuals

[umbral belfry]

lock in funny cat pfp dude

[shell hazel]

lock in neko

[strong hull]

Beamed catto

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind helmt noise
scarlet laplace blanc trina jackal
noah biscuit rapu sbs draket

tell them to raise CP on the units marked in SS, their utilities are all on bottom, then get teams reviewed

[strong hull]

There you are i thought you back to uma musume

[eternal finch]

I KNOW! Right?!

[tropic summit]

i'm always on it

even while you sleep

[gritty ridge]

What if treasure makes my bay team extra viable 👉 👈

[umbral belfry]

2 stall teams incoming

[gritty ridge]

Poli have any use in pvp atm?

[umbral belfry]

rarely she's used as b2 in sg rosa comp

I'd assume it's possible whatever her treasure kit is, that might change

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, and I have literally none of the new treasure units mlb

[umbral belfry]

I say rarely used bc you'll likely have either naga or viper built before poli

[strong hull]

Must have request Bakushin Bakushin Bakushinshin!

[umbral belfry]

esp naga due to campaign

[strong hull]

Send me ur id rail-chan

[lone zodiac]

anyone got tips on ideal def & att teams for pvp?

[tropic summit]

check pins

[tropic summit]

280109912469

[strong hull]

Good

Ill spam requesting Bakushin

[tropic summit]

ogurin on 9* will do

[strong hull]

[placid bloom]

Poli could be fat Atk buffer I guess

[strong hull]

9* what

[tropic summit]

poli used to be my cope B2 for scar-jack teams

[strong hull]

Give me full spd

[tropic summit]

and cope defender p1 with biscuit

[placid bloom]

if they make Poli 20s cd maybe she's even usable as solo "sustain" for SG team

[strong hull]

[placid bloom]

wait actually her shield is the bad type of shield since it's team shared instead of individual

[strong hull]

Imagine 3 fav item on a SG team

[umbral belfry]

shield that makes party immune like noah

[strong hull]

Wait actually we have viperT also

[tropic summit]

when are we getting uma musume collab with nikke

[placid bloom]

Idk how you fitting ViperT on SG team, you kicking BSoda?

[umbral belfry]

believe in phase 2

[strong hull]

When Golshi stop trolling

[gritty ridge]

Tove, tviper, tdrake, bsoda, tpoli

[strong hull]

Actually no, vipert ig its gonna be on Crown team thats better

Like the previous water raid

[placid bloom]

sir you need SDoro for water weak

[umbral belfry]

should i blow all my advise tix on bay now expecting pvp meta or wait

[gritty ridge]

Yknow what? B.alice t.tove

[tropic summit]

wait... it's not too far away

[strong hull]

Nah

[coarse lake]

there's only 2 paths to go for bay treasure

[tropic summit]

sit tight and hold elegg's love handles

[coarse lake]

they make her brickable with reenter b2

[umbral belfry]

i got that impatient itch again rail

[coarse lake]

or they make her better in pvp

[strong hull]

Tove Leona Sdoro Bsoda DrakeT

[umbral belfry]

[strong hull]

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

tove treasure better heal then

unless that happens, I doubt leona will be revived

[gritty ridge]

B.alice doubling tove stacks👉👈

[coarse lake]

unless doro absolutely needs her

[placid bloom]

they buff Bay's burst to 80% dmg reduc for 10 sec surely a 10x multiplier on her current numbers is fair

[tropic summit]

remember mistakes that were made out of being hasty? i remember at least one

[gritty ridge]

Isnt that what they did to helm burst?

[strong hull]

Slap her 4 black ammo and then say bye bye balice

[umbral belfry]

okay but it worked out in the end

[tropic summit]

i'll post elegg when your dad is reading ur chat

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Whats ammo gotta do with b.alice water stack doubling

[strong hull]

I think we dont need that actually

[placid bloom]

less reload time = less chance to drop stack but you drop stack anyway

[restive willow]

NOOO

[strong hull]

Its all about rng Tove stack

[placid bloom]

also BAlice don't reset Tove stack duration so can still drop stacks

[gritty ridge]

You dont want more tove stack malding?

[strong hull]

No

3h already enough

[coarse lake]

tove is by far the best unit that has gotten a treasure, it's obvious they're doing it to fix the rng stack issue

don't expect much else added to her kit besides that

[gritty ridge]

Triple her stack buff

[tropic summit]

how does Eon know...

[umbral belfry]

I way I looked and said 'okay drake is kinda scary but then it doesn't look too-' and then i saw rosa cp

[placid bloom]

150% Atk spd to all SGs

[glad glade]

Yeah its pretty grim. Thats 7 seasons of failure so far. I’m never giving up to make my wife even more beautiful though

[restive willow]

Welp I lost top 4 as expected. Went exactly as predicted

[coarse lake]

I'm more curious on what tf they gonna do to julia

[tropic summit]

she plays better OST in battle?

[strong hull]

[umbral belfry]

Julia did deserve a treasure ngl LMAO

[placid bloom]

how to save last bullet chars

[strong hull]

That the point

[placid bloom]

why is last bullet even a thing

[restive willow]

Bay is already pretty ok. What would her treasure do hm

[tropic summit]

privaty mentioned

[coarse lake]

more buffs prob, unless pve angle, then maybe self cd reduction/reenter

[strong hull]

[umbral belfry]

increase burst gen pls

[restive willow]

inb4 dorothy is clip sg?

[glad glade]

What if they double down on PvP instead? 🤔

[placid bloom]

even if they change her last bullet mechanic to every 10 bullets shot like Scarlet, it's still not good enough for PvP I think

[restive willow]

I can see the doubling down on pvp possibility

[coarse lake]

kinda doubt it, but I suppose it's possible, what could they even change that only helps pvp, burst gen?

either way unless they do reenter, she'll be better than she is rn

[umbral belfry]

not clip?

[coarse lake]

mag

[placid bloom]

not clip

[umbral belfry]

F

[coarse lake]

neither are pvp units, both pure raid, don't even bother

[glad glade]

They did it with Helm, they can do it again. It would be really funny if they actually did make her extra PvP meta lmao

[gritty ridge]

Give bay helm burst gen and multiple her buffs by 10

[coarse lake]

helmt did also become top meta in pve tho

[umbral belfry]

but I like doro

[restive willow]

Multiply the dmg reduction by 2

[placid bloom]

make Bay share damage taken with enemy

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

I'm just hoping doro is actually 1%, that means she might be our first pilgrim-lvl water dps

[placid bloom]

make toxic char

[gritty ridge]

Nah by 10

[coarse lake]

if she's 2%, then both are prob gonna be bready tier mids

[umbral belfry]

glad I saved up my gold tix if she's 1%

[placid bloom]

nah pilgrim will never be 2%

[restive willow]

Not glad even with gold tickets saved

[coarse lake]

I'll prob have to ticket regardless, 2b wrung me dry, still don't have her btw

[restive willow]

It means I can't save up much for anniv

[placid bloom]

they would have to turn Doro into Tetra to give you 2% banner

[umbral belfry]

when is Anni? I joined in dec

[restive willow]

November

[umbral belfry]

still time

[restive willow]

Half the time :(

[umbral belfry]

[coarse lake]

then there's all the old seasonal reruns in sept

[lunar pawn]

we're eating good with bay fav item

[coarse lake]

it's obvious ploy to bankrupt ppl right before anni

[restive willow]

Don't forget there's also an extra collab before anniv

[umbral belfry]

wait what

[placid bloom]

better start praying you have good pull luck to get everyone in 10 pulls

[restive willow]

Yep scheduled for september ain't it?

[spare nimbus]

does this win?

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

if liter is linked and your scarlet is invested, T1 is ok
T2 doesn't seem lethal
T3 is win

[spiral onyx]

Keripo Poli variant for SG team is gonna make a comeback

[umbral belfry]

keripo, what are your hopes for bay treasure?

[placid bloom]

Poli 220% shield and 140% Atk on B2 believe

[spiral onyx]

I wonder how much they buff Bay as well

[tropic summit]

careful with the mushrooms

[placid bloom]

Bay 80% damage reduction for 10 sec and share damage with enemy

[coarse lake]

inb4 they just make this trigger at start of battle too

budget jackal

[spiral onyx]

You know what should be a good upgrade? Making her the next Helm+ with burst gen

[umbral belfry]

that's what I'm sayingn

[spare nimbus]

even if emi dies and they miss their rockets?

[placid bloom]

I'm surprised we have no real reflect damage mechanic yet, but I guess reflect is toxic

[tropic summit]

T2 is a loss cause i assume you just put it with w/e was left

[spare nimbus]

yeah

[umbral belfry]

reflecting scar's counter or nuke

[spare nimbus]

i mean team 3

[tropic summit]

noway emi on single buff is lethal against that

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 are fine, just need scarlet invested, T3 is glass cannon dying to defender team with biscuit and cindy

ensure liter is linked else move jackal around and use a different flex

[spare nimbus]

would scarlet, trina, rh, noir, jackal be too slow for siren stun

even with moran feed

[tropic summit]

scarlet gets stunned in p1

unless you've the right ammo count

[spare nimbus]

what ammo do u need

[tropic summit]

28 iirc? ping someone who knows

[spare nimbus]

bro i have like over 200% ammo 💀

[tropic summit]

then don't run scarlet in p1

use a linked B1 in p1 instead

[spare nimbus]

maybe noir, scarlet, trina, red hood, jackal?

[tropic summit]

you're assuming noir gets stunned, but the linked units there will be scarlet and rh which means good chance noir dies and you get scarlet stunned

[sleek imp]

Omg you are NA?

[tropic summit]

your liter is not linked?

[spare nimbus]

it is

[tropic summit]

then what's the problem

T1 and T3 are fine

[spare nimbus]

just wanting to see any other teams

i mean rh and noir have basically the same attack for me, so if i switch cubes, noir will be linked

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina centi noir could do aswell

[placid bloom]

you should be safe at like 32 ammo I think, Noir doesn't reload until B3 casts which is after Mermaid's 50th bullet

[tropic summit]

you only need lethal to be enough to kill SBS

rest you should be able to kill with autos afterward, if not you can run blanc instead of trina to get indom

[placid bloom]

nvm 200% ammo

[lunar pawn]

yea I'm glad I've been saving doll mats

[umbral crown]

Go start working then

[lunar pawn]

regardless if they're trash or not, probably getting the fav item for everyone except julia...they'll have to perform a miracle to make her good lol

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

technically I'm working atm

[umbral crown]

I will go for bay first

[knotty fern]

how come 2rl cant kill 3rl anymore?

[umbral crown]

Sice she is max doll and bond

[knotty fern]

it was emilia too i cannot nuke them because noah burst keep going up

[tropic summit]

show what you running and against what

[lunar pawn]

she's only sr5 for me, but should be, hopefully, an easy upgrade to sr15

[tropic summit]

possibly CP aswell

[umbral crown]

How many kits you have

[knotty fern]

it was not on cp deficit, same cp almost

[lunar pawn]

think like 100 purple 80 gold

gotta check later

[knotty fern]

enemy was running noah,biscuit,emilia,redh,crown, i am running quency,blanc,thelm,jackal,centi

[umbral crown]

Hmmm... have to be lucky to make 1 SR 15 with those

[lunar pawn]

yea I was busy taking RH and siren to SR15 a few weeks ago

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

quency is non lethal

your problem lies probably there

[knotty fern]

even i used 4rl noah team and they still manage to nuke

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

you were not 4RL

post your box and we can help

[knotty fern]

i used noah,biscuit,cinderella,redhood,naga

can you tell me what comp good against it?

i just dont have emilia

or scarlet

[tropic summit]

post your box

[knotty fern]

i cant im off now, im not worry about cp deficit please?

[tropic summit]

on a general idea this works

either 2RL scar-rosanna or 4RL s.anis

[knotty fern]

ok thanks

[tropic summit]

s.anis must be burst lvl9, no ammo OL, have resil

do not use any flex that give ammo refil

and team must be natural 4RL

[glacial hatch]

Who's winning the finals??

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[knotty fern]

is not working, still getting kill with the nuke

[tropic summit]

you're running CS%

as i said you need to be natural 4RL

[knotty fern]

noah cs

[tropic summit]

yep that's the problemo

[knotty fern]

[tropic summit]

get a proper 2RL nuker or build rosanna

ein, reit, scarlet

[knotty fern]

what comp with ein, i have ein, 2rl?

[sleek imp]

@swift mango UID: 05772236

[tropic summit]

if ein is linked with RH and helmt present

ein blanc rh helmt jackal

else ein helmt blanc centi jackal

[knotty fern]

someone explain to me why is quency how not a proper aoe

[umbral belfry]

becoming a pie fan just like me also grats and gl

[tropic summit]

distributed damage

her nuke is not on the lethal scale, in general at least

[misty jackal]

Yeah saw you made the jump. Then noticed the union gets rewards regardless who wins. So def hungry.

Was wondering why you migrated

[umbral belfry]

@coarse solstice snatched me up

now I am apart of the pie mafia with chocopie and other pies

[knotty fern]

even what about sbs, same with her too?

[misty jackal]

My teams are an amalgamation of yours, cups, and acer

[knotty fern]

2rl team

[tropic summit]

sbs is denied by noah + biscuit, distributed damage on taunter with invulnerable deals 0 damage

[misty jackal]

Hopefully I get picked up with you

[umbral belfry]

all of our powers combined

[knotty fern]

i see

[umbral belfry]

idk if there's room in choco or creme but maybe keylime

[misty jackal]

Pie dominance era

[tropic summit]

interesting wording

[umbral belfry]

choco is high sync level so it'd likely be creme

[misty jackal]

Been watching F1

What are the thresholds?

[umbral belfry]

iirc choco is 400+?, creme is 300-ish but they take lower, keylime is about the same

[misty jackal]

Kk yeah I’m at I think 322

[umbral belfry]

then likely creme!

we don't rank as high as choco but it's still usually top 8 so yummy tix

[worthy sorrel]

ofc not! gg and congrats! love seeing new folks rise to the top! Gotta crush ace in the finals!

[umbral belfry]

I felt bad leaving art bc they were really nice too

[misty jackal]

I am the reason you didn’t get further this time. I was convinced you’d wipe the floor with me

[worthy sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/horror-scary-frightened-grim-reaper-the-grim-reaper-gif-3562976

[misty jackal]

Yeah I do too. But progression and rewards are enticing

[worthy sorrel]

single handedly take out the pies one by one.

[misty jackal]

With teams stolen from you guys felt guilty. But figured if I joined you guys it would be light theft instead of grand larceny

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/wwf-wwe-the-rock-undertaker-pie-gif-17821871255760658815

[worthy sorrel]

But yeah! join up in the discord. I don't run the union, but it's a big group of pies. you're too low sync for choco. requirement is 441 right now iirc but the leaders make exptions for people progressing quickly and playing seriously

[misty jackal]

Yeah I’m on every day.
And progressing steadily.

[worthy sorrel]

There are two other subunions though that are sync level 300 requirement. cremepie and keylime. both waitlisted iirc but should be able to get in before the next raid as people naturally move around

[misty jackal]

DM the discord please? I’ll join then disc then the union when there is space

I’m in no rush I’ll be around. Art does fine reward wise that I’m not desperate

[worthy sorrel]

dm'd!

[shell hazel]

not me! 😄

[umbral belfry]

lock in hippo

[worthy sorrel]

later when you have time you should DM xanth1pee. let him know you just beat me in the semifinals and are interested in the next open slot

[knotty fern]

what is 2rl cindy good against if it isnt a true aoe and enemy noah can proc her b2 on time

[tropic summit]

against most of the things not running noah

noah is anti nuke, cindy is a delayed nuke
used to be still effective because of snapshotting, but was then nerfed

[coarse lake]

it can also be turned into a semi stall comp since it needs no buffers

[knotty fern]

i see it's overkill?

[coarse lake]

cindy does with noise buffer what others do with 2 buffers

about enough to kill a tanky unit

[coarse solstice]

Pie truly becoming the baby bracket all stars 💪

[vagrant ravine]

is this winable for me or not?

[spare nimbus]

probably not since his noah will just taunt while being indom whole burst

[vagrant ravine]

so any good team to counter this one?

[worthy sorrel]

if you join us it's not theft it's "teamwork"

[spare nimbus]

does ur noah have higher charge speed than noise?

if not than noah will probably get stunned before bursting

[vagrant ravine]

yes my noah have higher charge speed than noise so noah will be stun even put her in place 5

[spare nimbus]

by how much

[vagrant ravine]

here is my noise with max Hp cube

my noah is way a lot chage speed for it + the cube chage speed

[quick lake]

SAnis Centi RH THelm Jackal
Can try this

[coarse lake]

[quick lake]

2 ele 3 atk Noah

[vagrant ravine]

well gacha thing they gave me this

[glacial lion]

4-1 right?

[vagrant ravine]

wait no need noah ?

[quick lake]

oops realised cant welps

ignore me

[vagrant ravine]

but does it work to counter this team?

[misty jackal]

Exactly

[onyx scaffold]

i think top / top / top / investment-check bot can win / bot

[glacial lion]

sg def team will prio rumani though, i dont think she can survive...

[onyx scaffold]

bottom is attacker or defender?

[glacial lion]

def

[onyx scaffold]

biscuit can protect rumani

blanc will buff rumani

[glacial lion]

sg wont get extra burst gen if they atk cindy clone right?

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/LMAfNxjmHHU?si=HyQz5sMnVdD2-2DL

[onyx scaffold]

no

[onyx scaffold]

stop. he is already dead

[glacial lion]

5th round not safe bet...

[spiral onyx]

Here's the finals. Tataru on top (attack), Keripo on bottom (def)

[onyx scaffold]

i think noise will be killed but siren should be able to burst
look team 5

left column is my prediction. right is result

[swift mango]

Okay, I forgot there are more than 1 server. Nvm.

[lusty gull]

why you put yourself on bottom def ?

[sleek imp]

ohh

[glacial lion]

if i wanna lose, put my bet on cindy team 5 right?

[onyx scaffold]

i have 0 bet frame

[spiral onyx]

• T1: Tataru win unless my SGs can burn through his Cindy fast enough (maybe? Not sure)
• T2: Keripo win probably, depends on his Scarlet investment and whether he can 1-shot through Moran burst + all Tempering cubes
• T3: Keripo win probably, my Noise is pretty tanky
• T4: Tataru win, Blanc > Noah
• T5: Tataru win, I dont think my Scarlet can burn through that sustain

Overall likely Tataru win

[spiral onyx]

Not like I get to choose lol

[glacial lion]

🤡 i won 5 round without looking at anything

i mean lose, same thing

[onyx scaffold]

my cheer is the same as last season

first day i win. 2nd day i lose. then i get a win streak

it has been 3rd time

[lusty gull]

i mean about nikke deck, i added some placeholder, def should be top, it's easier to read

[spiral onyx]

Why would def be top? In CA, top-left is attacker, bottom-right is defender

[oblique ridge]

Uhoh

[spiral onyx]

I guess in Rookie and SP its the opposite, visually on the battle screen your attack team is bottom

[lusty gull]

because the usual thing is top def

[onyx scaffold]

def is in front of your view

[coarse lake]

Team vs team is mainly for ca cheering, should follow ca imo

[spiral onyx]

Just add "ATK/DEF" labels to the UI so its more clear 🙂

[oblique ridge]

Why not just let the user mark which side is ATK or DEF, issue solved

[lusty gull]

i did ?

[coarse lake]

Add a tip that the top/left in ca is atk

[onyx scaffold]

yeah

[spiral onyx]

I mean to the teams images itself

It doesnt help that I prefix the team names with "S7" lol

[lusty gull]

i'm not following ca, i'm following habits

[oblique ridge]

Up to you, at least it’s a minor issue

[coarse lake]

Outside of ca pvp is just dead

[onyx scaffold]

u r tired

[oblique ridge]

I recently ignored the DEF/ATK labels and just put up Tataru vs Blllllue with Tataru on left (the “DEF” side though she’s Attacking)

[onyx scaffold]

go rest

[spiral onyx]

inside of CA PvP is also dead lol

[oblique ridge]

Because I tried to follow the labels and my head hurt “flipping” the script

What I’ll probably do is ignore the labels in the future and go as far as scrubbing out the labels with a digital marker before sharing the screenshot here So others don’t get misled trying to analyze the cheers for me

[spiral onyx]

The label is left vs right but the teams are displayed top vs bottom. So it doesn't visually help anyways

And in my case, because of the textbox size, the labels are useless cause you dont even see the team names

[onyx scaffold]

left right?

maybe he can do this

[spiral onyx]

Or add it inline

[lusty gull]

yes, it's a good idea

[onyx scaffold]

This sucks

[spiral onyx]

You suck

https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-gif-4972452

putting it top vs bottom though will at least let you expand the text box so you can see the full team name

[onyx scaffold]

I give up. Tried searching for a pic from gallery to rep

[oblique ridge]

For Rookie and SPA, I concur that Top vs Bottom follows usual habit, with Top Def and Bottom Atk

Since the player’s at the Bottom sending an Attack

[spiral onyx]

yeah, CA flipped it around

[oblique ridge]

For CA, it ain’t so but gotta pick Or do additional work

Additional work being the user can specify if Top is Atk or Def, the other is the unpicked one

[spiral onyx]

anyways, just a display thing, not a big issue

only thing that matters is someone go finish that frame-based speed calculator so we can finally ditch the X-RL system

[oblique ridge]

I’m changing my cheer from Keripo to Tataru

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-oh-no-shame-on-you-nah-fail-gif-15679323

[misty jackal]

Will any other summer units be good for PvP (or other modes)?

Like is Sakura summer supposed to be decent?

[spiral onyx]

shes decent just like 2B is decent

[placid bloom]

only Anis

the rest aren't really usable for PvP

[spiral onyx]

but "decent" doesnt cut it anymore

[placid bloom]

you can use them for SR

well I guess XAnne isn't summer but she's okay for PvP

[spiral onyx]

the X in XAnne stands for Christmas, which is the opposite of summer lol

[onyx scaffold]

sanne.
s stands for september

[onyx scaffold]

if dorothy is a clip SG, maybe

[misty jackal]

And any of the old rerun units?

[onyx scaffold]

everyone

[coarse lake]

Doro is mag

[onyx scaffold]

including anne and crupee

[lusty gull]

update available

[umbral belfry]

I have bad news

[sleek imp]

omg did yaLL SEE THE RAPI SKIN

straight to the point now

[signal hull]

That skin shoulda been free, for winning most popular character 😠

[sleek imp]

yeah 💔

how much is it? is it a gacha skin

[signal hull]

it is...

[glad glade]

I promised myself I would never buy a gacha skin ever again after I bought Cindy’s. I’m gonna break that promise now

[onyx scaffold]

$60

[sleek imp]

for a summer skin

[placid bloom]

if I wasn't f2p I would buy it

[onyx scaffold]

the rewards alone are already worth $60
the skin is basically free

[sleek imp]

bro F2p cannot pull all these units

[sleek imp]

what rewards?

[placid bloom]

I'm not pulling all of them

[sleek imp]

you have to

Noone can reject that elgg

Dorthy too like

[placid bloom]

well I will get the new ones ofc

some of the old ones sus

like SNeon and XRupee

probably SMary too

[sleek imp]

I will lower the prioirty for those units, but likely one copy for collection

I need that Liter skin though

[placid bloom]

it's more important to get the collab units than to pull units that have a chance to come back anyway

[sleek imp]

[spare nimbus]

will this win lol

[midnight marsh]

RIP. Lost top 4 match 2-3. Lost the deciding SG mirror

Once again no repeat winner for my CA bracket

[swift mango]

I might skip Doro depending on my luck and her kits

[placid bloom]

what if her skill procs every 10 pellets so it's guaranteed proc every shot in PvP

[swift mango]

If her kits is good for pvp then I will go for her ofc

[sleek imp]

But the two big reason :c

[swift mango]

Not that big to be honest comparing to many "big reasons" of other units in the game.

[signal hull]

They fkd first Doro up badly, they'd better not ruin their second attempt 😠

[swift mango]

First doro was year one and almost on the same level as Liter on released. She just gotten powercrept is all.

[shell hazel]

"not male doro so not pulling" - blood

[sleek imp]

Truee

[shell hazel]

i'm so cooked I'll just get Saber instead

[sleek imp]

Saber?

[shell hazel]

yes

[sleek imp]

Saber in nikke...?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/saber-saber-fate-fate-fate-stay-night-hsr-gif-8783272211996740570

[sleek imp]

Whos that

[sleek imp]

yeah her, we having a collab??

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fws-gif-27265644

she's on the rail of stars game

[swift mango]

Surprisingly we don't have a Saber in Nikke already. Every other game has a version of Saber in their pool.

[shell hazel]

tomorrow

[sleek imp]

oh I see

lil 🐳

[shell hazel]

gotta whale for my girl saber

[shell hazel]

it could work, I'd prefer some other collabs in nikke though

some of the upcoming changes to nikke also look good, I can't get all the treasures so need to see what will work for pvp

guess Bay will be the core one and maybe Poli next, can't see Julia or Tove adding to meta

[midnight marsh]

[shell hazel]

saber! 😄

[sleek imp]

I know saber from a cosplayer

Same cosplayer that did Diesel

[shell hazel]

should watch the anime fate zero

[tough smelt]

Would win or no?

[shell hazel]

Helm is chomping through rocks like it's going out of fashion but I will improve her rolls some more

fixed the boots I think, took like 40 rocks to get that. gloves will have to stay the same, next plan is to roll the helm and try to get a decent line 2

[tropic summit]

enemy team is 3RL with most of their dmg limited to the nuke itself, you can do 2RL nuke or 3RL stall/DPS

in that team you've 3 attackers, it depends on who's linked between helmT scarlet and RH

the first scarlet nuke won't be lethal because it's not buffed, as you'd be bursting with noah and jackal

you can go double rotation via this instead, as long as you're not in CP deficit as it seems you facing a whale

else aim for any padding you can get while pushing for 2 rotations

an alternative approach would be to get rid of siren early, which you can via scarlet s2 and help of snipers (scarlet needs to be linked)
if siren in that team dies, enemy cannot burst

you can also run your own siren to stun their noah and prevent their anti nuke

noah biscuit cind helmt siren
or
jackal blanc cindy helmt siren

[pure moss]

how to tell who's defending?

[shell hazel]

top or left is attacking

bottom or right is defending

[pure moss]

Who's winning?

Cookiee bottom but attacking

[shell hazel]

t2 probably 2.5RL with some CS on emi and jackal

problem is blanc is eating siren stun

so goodbye indom

I don't think 2.5RL blanc can avoid it

I think top/def wins this tbh

[quartz rover]

will my team win?

[shell hazel]

this is imo so get some more opinions maybe....
t1 - attacker may win, soda stun noah and then it's gg
t2 - defender wins, siren stuns blanc so no indom can fire and biscuit will burst instead
t3 - defender wins as sg eats through the team in reverse + ros kills HelmT
t4 - defender probably wins as fast enough indom to get it done before SG's can kill jackal link
t5 - depends a bit on investment but I give most of the wins already to defender anyway

[quartz rover]

I can swap team 3 with 2 if not

[hoary hill]

@tropic summit @keen vapor have you ever seen such a disgusting team like generlly how do you beat that

probably just gonna place little mermaid in the right place but still

[quartz rover]

dunno how but team 2 lost

[tropic summit]

rosanna would be your best friend, as she removes iron (from mana) and deletes helmT

Afterward you want a heavy single target to finish the job, and RH is perfect for that

the alternative is using scarlet blanc rh noir jackal or scarlet trina rh noir jackal

[hoary hill]

damn didnt know rosanna was that good

[tropic summit]

your highest dmg dealt is trina, that's a big clue

[quartz rover]

wdym

[tropic summit]

it means RH did nothing in that team

[quartz rover]

why

was she stunned by siren or something

[shell hazel]

when you do a match if you want to see what happens there is a replay button bottom left

[tropic summit]

should really watch your matches

[coarse lake]

Tsk tsk

[tropic summit]

your team got deleted by SG pressure

[quartz rover]

I'm bummed out cause this twerp took me out of top 10

[tropic summit]

enemy SGs when you attack start attacking by p5 instead of p1

you were supposed to be 3RL, but they killed your speed and your team very fast

[quartz rover]

oh

so noir is a shotgunner?

[tropic summit]

[quartz rover]

Honestly had no idea I just thought people used her for the blanc skills

[placid bloom]

no she is meta relevant

sorta...

at least at your sync she is

[quartz rover]

so had I put my team the opposite way I would've had a chance?

[tropic summit]

against SGs you want biscuit

[placid bloom]

I don't think you have anyone that can tank SGs until you are able to burst

[tropic summit]

p5 defender + biscuit denies most if not all their damage

that or cinderella p5

[shell hazel]

put a defender at p5 and biscuit at p3/p4 and suddenly those sg's can't kill you anymore lol

[placid bloom]

actually you have a Jackal team

[quartz rover]

I have her but I just tossed what I had already at it

[placid bloom]

that can tank SG

[tropic summit]

low invest jackal can get shredded, so biscuit is failsafe

[placid bloom]

Biscuit is fine too

[quartz rover]

I was going to do that but I didn't know team 2 would be that threatening

I'll do it tomorrow and get my revenge

[umbral belfry]

the arrows 😭

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

also what the heck is this https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1336913041522032710

[vapid lake]

[placid bloom]

Time for you to host a classroom is what it is

It’s your vtuber debut arc

[wanton island]

lot of enrichment going on

[vocal kelp]

Hi, sorry to bother, I just want to know if I build my pvp teams correctly

Would appreciate if someone can respond me

[wanton island]

trina and scarlet are besties

not sure why moran and jackal

[vocal kelp]

Well, I read a guide that said that Jackal needs to go with a tanker, and a friend said to me that it could be Moran

But as you can see, I'm a newbie on this, that's why I'm asking, sorry if I'm making mistakes 😫

[wanton island]

im not an expert either but this team is hardly beaten....

[vocal kelp]

I had Trina and Maiden, but no gear or skills lvl up, so I guess I'll work on that

[wanton island]

trina is needed for pvp... maiden is pretty good too

drunklet is a pvp queen, and trina is a great cheerleader for her

[vocal kelp]

What about my other teams, are they ok?

[wanton island]

the noise mermaid combo is suspect

does siren silence if noise pops off?

[vocal kelp]

No idea, I just put siren there to fill a place lol

Im so bad, I'm sorry 😦

[wanton island]

use siren as a solo b1 imo

b1 = burst 1

do you have a treasure helm?

here is my noah team...

[vocal kelp]

Yes, and full gear OL

[wanton island]

she is amazing in pvp. throw her in there

[vocal kelp]

Oh, I can make that team, full gear too

Maybe dumb question incoming, atk and def teams are the same? Don't change on anything?

[wanton island]

ime being on the defense is a disadvantage unless building a team for it

like stall teams and such

here is my 3rd team, but i didnt really put any thought in it. just threw it together

im sure there are edgier teams that are better.

good idea to play in rookie league to see what works for you

[swift mango]

Basically, you can use the exact same team but Siren p1 instead to beat it.

Or replace siren with Blanc

[desert tundra]

Hello could someone help me create 3 afk teams for sp arena and 1 for rookie arena? I am having trouble even hitting 2k gems with my current teams 😦 I have plenty of mats and I'm willing to invest in anyone

[tropic summit]

SP arena

naga centi cind helmt liter
sbs blanc rh laplace jackal
crown biscuit alice rrh anchor:IM

Rookie

sbs helmt blanc siren jackal

cubes

quantum on jackal, laplace
vigor on blanc, biscuit
rest run w/e high lvl cube available

notes

wishlist noah
raise CP/invest in the units in second SS

[desert tundra]

thank you sir 🙏 so i should make sure they all have ovl gear right? but lines dont matter?

[tropic summit]

you can refer to prydwen for each unit for the optimal skill invest and OLs

[crystal flicker]

I'm coping so hard for my SG comp to win mirror lol

[tropic summit]

just try your best to land the crit

[oblique magnet]

just curious, what level are people's quantum cubes? for some reason, i thought they capped at 10 or something but apparently not, lol

[raven plover]

mine still sitting at 8

went for tempura

(tempering)

[desert tundra]

I dont even have vigor unlocked yet 😔

[crystal flicker]

This is my final CA

Unless T5 can kill Scarlet before burst, I can only depend on SG comp lol

[raven plover]

need more info, like dolls and limit break

[crystal flicker]

Wdym

[umbral belfry]

rip noah noise for t3

[raven plover]

if the enemy c7 sr15 on all SGs then ye scar dies

especially scar no sr15 dolls

[crystal flicker]

Ofc Scarlet SR15 dolls

[raven plover]

ye now whats the enemy SGs core and dolls

[tropic summit]

cubes minus the quantum aren't gonna be mandatory, but they'd optimize

if you ever plan to take pvp a bit more seriously, ensure you unlock them and level them up

[crystal flicker]

Both MLB

SR5 it seems

[raven plover]

should be fine then unless pepper burst 10, which aint no way

by fine scar team gonna win

is she lb 0

[crystal flicker]

LB1

[raven plover]

might be close

[swift mango]

Either 8 or 11 or 15.

Just for the slot

[oblique magnet]

level 15...

planning to go for 11, but not sure if i should just fully commit to the quantum cube, lol. i want to advance in CA 😢

[wheat heart]

no, fully commit to tempering if you are going for CA

[oblique magnet]

ooo

[wheat heart]

all you need in quant is 8

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, fighting prev champion

[oblique magnet]

commiting to tempering it is, lol

[crystal flicker]

If you want to know, I have 18% CS on multiple RLs just for CA

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[wheat heart]

every unit benefits from tempering. some units vigor and some quantum. you def want quantum first so you can build faster teams

[umbral belfry]

I got quantum to 7 and am currently aiming for tempura 7 🍤

[wheat heart]

but because of level sync damage reduction is huge and tempering is the best cube

[oblique magnet]

good to know ~ ty!

[oblique magnet]

is that max CS for each piece?!

[umbral belfry]

max cs on each piece 25% no?

[crystal flicker]

No, it's a break point

[umbral belfry]

or is it 24

[crystal flicker]

11, 15, 18, 21, 25

[umbral belfry]

[livid marsh]

Hoboman who you plan to sr15 next?

[raven plover]

I sr15 bay yesterday. gonna wait poli / tove info first

[livid marsh]

[raven plover]

if tove only adds 5% to her s1, hmm

[oblique magnet]

oo, i haven't been keeping up ~ they announced new treasures?

[livid marsh]

See livestream bruh

[oblique magnet]

!!!

[swift mango]

Quantum only as much as you need it. So build your team first, if it need mor ethan 4 consider to go up from 7. Otherwise, just stay there.

[oblique magnet]

boat sailed for me. i focused on it and leveled it to 11 already, lol

i realized i bought 50 batteries from the last union raid

(50 of 100)

and i got enough to get the rest of the 50 today, lol

[umbral crown]

Tempura 15 is the way

Missing just 49 for lv12

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

Would

I like smol cute girls like poli

[oblique magnet]

i wonder if new elegg is going to be a rocket launcher / a pvp meta unit

[umbral crown]

Need to check stream again but i think she is mg

[oblique magnet]

ah, i'll have to watch the actual stream later, lol

i'm just looking at screenshots

[wheat heart]

she is mg

[oblique magnet]

[crystal flicker]

I smell Poli SG comp

[umbral belfry]

so bright

[umbral crown]

Waos

[umbral crown]

Keripo was seeing the future

[livid marsh]

When we get skill reset again?

[umbral crown]

3rd anni

[atomic wolf]

n*aked

[coarse lake]

building eve and srosa was a huge mistake

I didn't even end up using them in the SR, and they're just gonna hog my skill books until I get to reset hopefully this year...

[umbral crown]

wait for 3rd anni, everything will be solved

[coarse lake]

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

selegg

[spare nimbus]

Does 1 and 3 win?

[coarse lake]

anti-fun, whatever

I'll call her eggs then

[umbral crown]

they should

[keen vapor]

You can't mention the S word that's right

[static plaza]

is that a good 3 def team for SP?
if not pls build 3 def team ty
got T helm and T drake
also if can help build 3 general atk team would be appreciated

[umbral crown]

instead anis you could give that spot to DrakeT

but will try to give you something different from what you have

[static plaza]

If have a good general atk team would appreciated
Know that atk is base on def but general idea would be good to know what to build

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Centi
SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/Emilia/X.Maiden

[umbral crown]

usually Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Biscuit/Rumani
also the scar team tends to win against most teams you can change draket for helmT

but i would recommend you post the rival teams here so you can get better suggestions and at the same time you learn what teams counter

[static plaza]

No x maiden on 3 team

[umbral crown]

siren then

is your emilia built?

[static plaza]

4 7 7 with max ol

[umbral crown]

you could try:

Against Sanis team: Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Biscuit/Centi
Against SG team: Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Rapunzel/Jackal
Against Scar siren: Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Anis

check deficit before attacking

[static plaza]

CP around same
going to wait till reset to try it out since no more tries zzz

[umbral crown]

hehe i see, good luck with that

[fast jetty]

took me some time but somehow the comp works soo good that i can get beat top 6 and 3 at 14% CP deficient

scarlet w/ siren and helm laplace noah time and give up cindy

lesson learned:

• scarlet beat their #2 weaker team
• give up on their strongest / highest CP team
• helm noah snipe scarlet team

forgot to attack yesterday oops

[warm lynx]

LOL

what about wegg. water egg

[fast jetty]

still haven't raised my anis or drake yet

get to anis OL lv0~lv1 equipment and 4/4/4 should be easy, should i do it?

I am just slacking since the last solo raid boss needs Raven and i didnt do anything to raven or eve 😅 got top 20%

[crystal flicker]

14% deficit is no penalty

[fast jetty]

yeah just almost penalty

[crystal flicker]

From 7 ATK to 30 ATK, she's ready for any shit

[sleek imp]

Yessir

2.5rl Screenwipe is no longer a dream

[keen vapor]

Summer egg

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[eternal finch]

What's the PVP cube Priority for level up?

[dim sapphire]

Temp>quantum>vigor>bastion

Maybe adjutant cube

[eternal finch]

Temperance? Wow Iw asn't even aware it was part of the meta

[pale osprey]

I need an good suggestion for an PvP Team Build

For both Arena Modes(except Champion Arena)

[wicked horizon]

Any idea against either of these teams? (Only need to beat 1)

I fear it's just gonna indom the wrong person...

[keen vapor]

Malogro, you got attacked
Almost midnight

Ok you can rest

[wicked horizon]

Why even have Trina there then? 🤔

[keen vapor]

No but

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, no, that's a loss as expected.

Yes

No

On the phone.

Didn't watch it.
It usually goes like - Scarlet bursts, wipes Nero, Moran, Emilia, then Helm bursts and wipes most of the Jackal linked guys, and then I lose the war of attrition, because Helm heals.

[coarse lake]

poor ammo economy on scar prob

[wicked horizon]

Low ammo to beat Mermaid. /s

But yes, you're right.

Especially without Trina.

3 for a total of 32% atk

1 ammo ol of ~44%

We'll find out tomorrow I guess.
I think people are out of ideas on how to beat that third team, myself included.

[crystal flicker]

Cindy Blanc

My stall got beaten by that comp lol

[wicked horizon]

Nah, I don't believe in that working.

[crystal flicker]

It is working, though you also need to get 2RL to beat them on time

[coarse lake]

this should in theory work against both of them

[crystal flicker]

Cindy w/o Blanc already give stall like 20% hp left

[coarse lake]

that's not even a proper stall, I think your scar is just weak tbh

[crystal flicker]

And that's with ~50% dmg red from Moran Nero

[coarse lake]

they don't even have full dr

triple buff indom sbs might even beat that ngl

[crystal flicker]

I'm considering to full invest my SG comp

I'll wait what they're doing with Poli first

Stall vs Cindy Blanc

This my CA, so no deficit

[coarse lake]

that's not really a stall

[worthy knoll]

I think it lost coz the indom was on the wrong unit coz of Trina invul on Scar, when Emi is hitting on RH, Scar is not taking damage, but RH and Jackal are

[crystal flicker]

Wdym

It's freakin Moran Nero comp

[coarse lake]

I mean the cindy one

[crystal flicker]

Ye

[covert lintel]

Behold my Bsoda
Idk why i always get so many cs no matter which nikke is

[shell hazel]

nah it's this in the end has to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQUyiDaJxVM

[urban mulch]

just bricked myself cause i forgot the team order i used against this one guy i beat consistently

[shell hazel]

@grand plaza who you voting for the final? 😛

[grand plaza]

I just vote highest for the last month+ tbh, personally I lose any interest on CA after first few weeks :/

[shell hazel]

well it's the last match and it's me this time lol, presumably you have my match to vote on

[grand plaza]

Hmm yeah looks like its yours, and looks like I vote for the other guy

Is there a image you already made to compare?

[shell hazel]

yeah think I'm deadge

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

lv12 is useless though.

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/mati-bodoh-bangang-keranda-menari-gif-16794403

[shell hazel]

yeah that was my thought 😄

#pvp-arena message

[grand plaza]

Still, you are doing great man. Second place isn't that bad

[shell hazel]

I even posted same gif

[swift mango]

I don't even have poli.

But she need some new perks to be used, just more buff won't make her useful.

[shell hazel]

I think i'll lose 4-1 or 3-2 (pretty confident on taking match 2 due to my SG killing siren and them having no other b1 lol)

at least I shouldn't get 5-0 swept :p

[grand plaza]

I always expect a Helm treatment that some totally new thing to make it busted if they want to.

[swift mango]

That's your problem. Siren+rapipi+eve was the meta. Everyone and their mother running that last solo raid.

[shell hazel]

[grand plaza]

Yeah I agree, 2 most likely yours while 4 maybe yours but otherwise 💀

[shell hazel]

nah happy with that, already beat my previous best never been here before

I keep investing, other guy a whale (multiple max cores)

[grand plaza]

That much is not avoidable in a gatcha pvp I guess

[shell hazel]

indeed, I can bridge the gap a bit, I do get some of the packs/skins etc so I get a number of ord tickets regularly

eventually I'll at least MLB the main units and then core 7 won't massively disadvantage me

I invest mainly for SPA also so I don't see them as a waste or anything

[grand plaza]

As long as I am in first 6 on SPA I am happy tbh, CA is whatever

[shell hazel]

yeah SPA is where winning really matters

[grand plaza]

Struggling a bit since 2 shuffle ago, 2 new whales just took first 2 spot permanently

[shell hazel]

if someone whales on levels they could probably take me down from 1st but they'd have to spend a bit

at least in my current SPA, I'm not really willing to commit to that as the packs/skins/passes cost me enough already

meanwhile I keep investing in my teams 🙂

[grand plaza]

I spend %5 monthly 2 times, then this whole CN thing happened and made me realize how waste it is and thats the end lol. I know for sure that I won't spend a single time on this or any other gatcha, ever

[shell hazel]

they've sort of fixed that now at least, or are going to

mold changs etc coming over

I'd love to see a gacha where spending $20/month gets you everything in the stores/passes and there is no major advantage to be had for anyone

anti-whale game 😛

[grand plaza]

Yeah I am aware but it was more like a eye opener for me overall. I just think that its a total waste and I am good at not caring about fomo so.. whatever I guess

[grand plaza]

Why take 20 while you can take thousands

[shell hazel]

yeah that is the logic and the shame of it all I think, still if people want to spend thousands to beat me they can

I'll let them win 😄

just fight on as best I can without spending extra

also I don't really want to truly pay to win it's boring, I want some challenge, or just to be better at min/max investing my resources to win

[grand plaza]

Yeah thats fair 👍

[swift mango]

<@&946725432554836008>

[raven plover]

damn missed the free money from drizzle

[swift mango]

play azur lane.

[covert lintel]

That's CoA
I only bought monthly pass and i can get full outfit and pet gacha through selling gold via auction/trade

[shell hazel]

CoA?
I don't think Nikke is too bad for competing vs whales it's doable, just a bit of a disadvantage in CA (and an impossible gap in SPA if they whale core dust)

at least dupes don't massively adjust skills and such

[swift mango]

That's is the whale buying you.

we have lots of those games in the past.

[atomic wolf]

oh my god

[covert lintel]

Wdym
CA is not for whale

You can compete as long as you focus on pvp not SR

[umbral crown]

1 step closer to 13

[shell hazel]

compete but does depend how many whales are sat above you in SPA 😄

[covert lintel]

But SpA is a different story

[shell hazel]

but to get into CA you need to be top in SPA as well, so they're linked that way

[covert lintel]

You just need a newer bracket to be in the top SpA

[swift mango]

The perk of non day one player is that there won't be any case of 6 whale in one bracket.

[loud sonnet]

Huh

[signal hull]

Doro? Extrovert who gets along with anyone? What homeless janitor did they pay to write this?

[swift mango]

that's her ghost theme

[signal hull]

Ooh, it was about Elegg, I misread.

[tropic summit]

ye sounds about right, at least until opponent changes that lineup and makes one more team scarlet/2RL resistant, until then you'll be fine

[strong hull]

[static plaza]

@tropic summit sbs blanc rappirh emila siren good enough for b gen or swap siren for rumani?

[quick lake]

Put in calc. Team has bad burs gen

[tropic summit]

use nikke deck yourself next time, you can find out yourself:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

bad for multiple reasons

1. not even 4RL
2. at that speed, even against slower 4RL/5RL teams, the chances SBS survives are nearly 0, and blanc very likely to die aswell to splash

with rumani the team becomes 3RL, but it has no protection for p1

meaning that team is weak to

1. SGs
2. siren
3. any p1 pressure

[static plaza]

This is my current 3 sp def team is that good enough?
If u can improve the team up can give new 3 team?
Got T helm and T drake

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina emilia sbs (assumes scarlet is 1st or 2nd highest atk% + OL in this team)
noise rumani cindy helmt noah
crown biscuit rh mw naga (temp CP pad until emilia is ready)

quantum on jackal, trina, emilia
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
anyone else run highest lvl cube

try to build your nikke to be able to use the table to the right
invest in the marked nikke in the second SS

[static plaza]

Emila 477 max ol not good enough?

Need invest sub stat or lvl skill up?

[tropic summit]

she has less invest than your rumani and biscuit, probably means she's not there

[tropic summit]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/emilia

scarlet, emilia and siren should be way higher in invest than, for example, your naga/crown/liter

work on those asap if you want better chances

[static plaza]

Both rumani and biscuit I just ol lvl 0 and 444 with no sub stat reroll lol
Maybe due to affection bonus stat + c7?
The only big invest for the 3 sup is Naga with 4 atk line
Litter crown not really but will try to see what I can do

[tropic summit]

yes OL lines for the most part play a huge chunk of your CP difference

for example emi should aim to have 3 or 4 atk% lines

same goes for scarlet

emi should also ideally have 3-4 CS% lines

you can refer to prydwen to find out recommended OLs for each nikke

CP will naturally go up once you meet those

[shell hazel]

Rail

[tropic summit]

Hippo

[shell hazel]

light some candles for me sir

onegai

[tropic summit]

just make RNG sneeze on your side

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

maybe one or two enemy shotguns trips and fails to land a few shoots

[shell hazel]

or they shoot themselves in an argument?

[tropic summit]

surely

[static plaza]

Can also build 3 team or best 2 that can take these out?
Not really good at pvp
Tyvm

[lavish lintel]

Chat what're the odds of me beating this nerd

[swift mango]

Man I forgot to vote again.... That 2 hours wait is really stupid.

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

cope with slow loading speed of this game making me doesn't want to open game just to vote. Fomular for disaster.

long load speed won't be as annoying if they don't pop up for confirmation in the middle. So I could just open the game, throw the phone away and do something else while it loads. But they had to make 1-2 pop while loading the damn game. Trash design.

[lavish lintel]

only the booting up the game takes forever for me. the rest is fine

[swift mango]

It's annoying in when I click open the game, go for other business then come back after 5 mins and the game still loading because I need to close the pop up first for it to load.

The pop up is the worst thing on the internet but SU apparently love those shit features

[shell hazel]

I don't close the app I just go back to my phone home screen and then resuming it is fast

[lavish lintel]

oof... yeah thats a you problem since you knew that pop up exist. I always wait for it first then go do something else

[shell hazel]

I'd say you have a good chance
-# of losing

[swift mango]

Because pop up is 30 seconds into the 100 seconds loading boot. So you need to wait regardless. It just split the loading wait into 2.

That's shit design choice.

[shell hazel]

pop up design is pretty poor especially with how it stops the game continuing to load

[swift mango]

yes it is. The worst thing about this game is long loading screen that splitted into 2 phase. As if 2 phase boss wasn't annoying enough they love it and make their loading screen a 2 phase boss too.

[lavish lintel]

[swift mango]

That's only if you on PC. On phone app would crash if you open other app because not enough ram.

[shell hazel]

oh I don't have that issue but mine is a decent phone I guess

not latest latest but flagship from a couple of years back

[shell hazel]

I mean what did you think would happen?

[lavish lintel]

I survive mayb

[shell hazel]

4-1 or 3-2 loss to me, calling it now lol

[swift mango]

I don't have that problem with most game, only nikke.

[shell hazel]

only annoyance is having to hand over control between phone/pc because I can't auto kraken s7 yet

wait what