pvp-arena

[strong hull]

Im going to breed mcqueen then

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

finally gonna win maybe?

[shell hazel]

I think I can win next, not sure on one after, I need to prep the decks

I probably won't even try to calc the following two potential matches as don't want to tempt fate, I'll do that about this time tomorrow instead when I know my next opponent

I'd like to win at least once for sure as it frees me up to run silly meme comps 😄

I'm def/top on next set
t1 - I should win this hopefully, Helm/LapT may die to Ros but I think on pure sustain/outlasting they'll spend a lot of time hitting high DR Nero. Rapu can res Helm then.
t2 - Not impossible I win but it depends if Ros kills Scarlet or not on b1.
t3 - They're kind of wasting HelmT here on a 3RL Cindy comp. I could win this due to indom firing before I die.
t4 - I win this what even is their team?
t5 - hard to say it depends how their indom goes.

@tropic summit @swift mango thoughts on above?

[glad glade]

Oh hey you’re in my bracket . My cheer group is the other one

[tropic summit]

3-2 or 4-1 for you

[dense kindle]

Fellow NA player , how are your cheers going?

[glad glade]

I’m surviving so far. Got a very nice losing cheer streak, and mine seems like a bit if a clear cut and dry case, though I’ll have to check with the others here to make sure its a surefire victory

[signal hull]

What spot should I be putting Soda (OG) to? Does she stun ANY random 2 from all 5, or is she supposed to be in like p3 to be able to stun these 2 randoms and would only stun p1-3 if I put her p1?
Also.. What skill levels should I be giving her?

[pure moss]

wait cindy wins against sg?

[tropic summit]

p1 or p2, jackal linked, can stun any taunter (noise and noah for example), any other position than p1 and p2 is random

[tropic summit]

budget is fine 4/4/4, if you want extra chip damage can increase burst to higher levels but not needed

[dense kindle]

Damn nice! I’m still trying to go for the winning frame, hope you get your losing cheer frame

[signal hull]

I still don't get the "Jackal linked" part, sorry, I have Jackal in this team (I wanna cook Scarlet team with Soda for next CA), but should Jackal also be in some certain position? Currently I put them Jackal/Scarlet/Soda/Trina/Centi so Jackal was stunned if enemy has Siren, but then I'm kinda scared won't my team get oneshot if enemy has HelmT as B3 or something...

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

jackal links with the 2 highest atk% in the team, meaning you need to get soda to be 2nd highest atk% (OL included) with w/e you running

e.g. scarlet soda trina xmaiden jackal, expects soda to have higher atk% than xmaiden and trina

if you do not meet that criteria, soda is unlinked and easy to kill

you can still run her unlinked, but highly recommended having temperance on lvl 7

[signal hull]

Yeah Temperance is my number 1 prio after losing two CA's to SG teams...

[glad glade]

Anyways, here are my predictions, assuming that there aren’t any additional CS values. I’m not the best at PvP though and may be wrong, so make sure to ask for second opinions:

R1: leaning towards bottom. Top may have slower RLs, but that pepper will rock Anis’s world. This may either mistrigger blanc’s indom to Anis, or if Anis dies, Rosa may cause that team to burst first. Not to mention that Soda will get the indom buff if Anis doesn’t get it and they all survive. There may still be a chance that Sanis would get that indom buff though

R2: Top. Siren will stun moran and cindy will snipe all the squishy parts like Sanis and biscuit

R3: Victory is dependent on both on soda stun RNG and investment levels, but I’m leaning more towards top. Thats a pretty solid stall team, so if Moran bursts then they might facetank that nuke, but I can see either team winning

R4: Top for sure. SGs+Jackal link=GG

R5: Bottom. Noah will get stunned and Cindy will snipe the squishy parts

[shell hazel]

my top 8 matches here if anyone wants to see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHUY5kEoh3s
t1 - My stall comp just tanked RH burst like it was nothing
t2 - SG team carved them up
t3 - Biscuit indom so I lost lol. their Ros took out my SBS and RH.
t4 - They ran a dumb team so it was an easy win
t5 - Noise stunned and their scarlet wasn't p1 so no counter-stun so I lost

[glad glade]

Best of luck to you bro, you got this

[shell hazel]

@nimble swan corleone or booba my potential final opponents if I make it past next (looking hopeful I will)

[nimble swan]

Yeah you very likely get past splirnok and iirc I predicted corleone in the finals, but i need to recheck

Btw nice how nero moran won against rh and sbs

I knew that team can tank unbuffed sbs but never saw rh burst against it

[shell hazel]

I lost the previous one where RH burst against it lol with her b1, so it's not 100% but this one must be weaker

[nimble swan]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, i was a bit surprised how easy it went

Mine is stronger i think

[umbral belfry]

hippo going to finals

[tropic summit]

retirement is close

[umbral belfry]

that's gonna be more of rails disciples winning

rail wins

[shell hazel]

hopefully 😄

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[dense kindle]

Hey, thanks for helping me out with those predictions. I'm trying to get better at pvp so this actually helped alot

[umbral belfry]

jsasor pvp training arc

[shell hazel]

next student of rail

[tropic summit]

get your own students now @shell hazel

gotta pass the baton

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/senpai-notice-bite-sip-clingy-gif-5740206

[dense kindle]

I will try my best

[umbral belfry]

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/katt-williams-mmm-told-you-so-i-told-you-so-told-you-gif-4311431732584579317

[lunar pawn]

I always gotta ask you twice though cus you keep sending me scribbles

[covert lintel]

i'm drawing a ✓

[fast jetty]

how do i deal with this?

maybe:

• giveup round 2 against their scarlet
• use scarlet in round 1 with noah
• make some team with siren against their noah at 3rd, with cindy or anis summer

replay: game 1 was able to use burst, but when i use noise is already dead, anis also dead after.

[tropic summit]

cinderella team is punishable by scarlet, scarlet is punishable by sustain/stall, noah you're doing it right (any nuke team with siren to bypass)

pick the 2 teams you wanna deal with based on what you've

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

xmaiden and laplace are interchangable, although keep in mind you'll need a different flex for noir

[tropic summit]

additionally helmT is overcommited in scarlet team

you could run scarlet 3RL you'd still be 2RL due to SG feed

this option as such is also open

you can also take the indom solution instead

do w/e you've better CP with, helmT is flexable as needed in the last one (i didn't bother changing T2, i think you get the drift)

[tropic summit]

dude...

now it all makes sense

we didn't account for the game to work as intended

[lunar pawn]

yea I have no idea how sbs got deleted there

[tropic summit]

it's the bug Merry has since long reported

it's in a thread on this discord

[lunar pawn]

what bug

[restive willow]

Not sure what the report is but sometimes you die through indom or revive

I sometimes see makima dying like that

[tropic summit]

you can see it better here

#pvp-arena message

[restive willow]

10/10 delicious spaghetti code

[umbral belfry]

🍝

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-gif-24810109

[lunar pawn]

this happened to me before but seems like blanc bursted and the unit the indom would go to died at the same time, so it went to nobody before it applied

[tropic summit]

just look for Merry post

in https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1047834307550519338 or in this chat

[swift mango]

T1: if your Nero could survive SG until she burst you win.

T2: if you Rosa and at least 1 SG could survive and nuke Scarlet you win.

T3: you lose

T4: you win.

T5: you win.

So if your opponent overwhelms you on core in team 1,2 you lose.

[lunar pawn]

I did, seems like what I said before

[swift mango]

T3 is 2rl, unless their helm isn't treasure like you put into the pic.

It's the most basic 2rl Cindy wtf...

[lunar pawn]

I remember when I first posted this bug here everyone thought I was tripping and gaslighting me

[tropic summit]

no i've ran into it a few times myself

and other ppl who also did i've seen a decent amount

the suggestion in this cases is to run temperance or vigor

another example of some time back

#pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

correctly predicting 6 fights is so ass now

[restive willow]

Looks like the issue is with the 3 frame (30fps) delay for effects

Blanc activates (targeting sbs) - sbs dies - effect goes live (but sbs already dead)

I wonder if this also means makima indom has a delay like this too. I know rosanna has a 4 frame delay

[oblique ridge]

Cinderella has close to two lives if the enemy has to go through the Decoy and then herself

So it’s a pretty “slow” kill compared to other possible enemies… and it’s a Defender too

[umbral belfry]

idk if it was bc the cindy was low cp, but my mid sgs killed a p5 cindy fairly quickly

[oblique ridge]

There’s a Noise and Noah, right? So when B1 activates, she’ll survive to Noah

[oblique ridge]

Oh… I thought she’d be pretty tanky

Needless to say, if Cindy dies early, it’s gg

[umbral belfry]

also his sgs are attacking anis, he did it wrong in deck

[oblique ridge]

Oh?

[umbral belfry]

even tho it says where to put atk and def

[oblique ridge]

My previous analysis, ruined

[umbral belfry]

cookie is defending, that anis is rip asap

[umbral belfry]

get back to the lab

[oblique ridge]

Not even time to finish drinking a cola

Wait

My brain’s malfunctioning today rather badly

I looked at the matchups and there’s no Cindy p5

[umbral belfry]

no I was saying in general

but sg should win t4

[oblique ridge]

No, my reply to his question was weird too

I definitely was thinking of a Cindy tanking SGs but why did I leap to that

Either way, I remember now after re-checking his matchups

[umbral belfry]

anis? emi, either via rosa nuke or sg pressure?

[oblique ridge]

SGs will kill Anis and then Emilia

But it won’t stop Noise, Noah, and Cindy from bursting

[umbral belfry]

no longer 2.5rl

[oblique ridge]

So SGs are bound to be killed

[onyx scaffold]

help me to cheer. thank you

[umbral belfry]

what are the chances of rosa nuking noise before she bursts

surely

regardless that sg team will be faster

so even noise doesn't die and/or close to death, bsoda will finish it

[oblique ridge]

Yes

Drake’s bursting unless Drake died, I think

[umbral belfry]

arguably worse bc drake burst has high ST numbers

someone getting

and noise or noah will taunt drake

[oblique ridge]

Seems like it comes down to whether Emilia’s dead when Drake pops burst

If she is, then Cindy gets Draked

[umbral belfry]

I find it likely bc rosa

[oblique ridge]

Oh, taunts…

Okay, you convinced me

RIP

[umbral belfry]

now if rosa somehow doesn't kill emi then

[oblique ridge]

No, your mention of taunt… it is convincing

Drake will obliterate either Noise or Noah

Without either one, if it’s fast enough, it’s a bricked team because Anis is also dead

[umbral belfry]

yeah, either way won't reach fb due to b1 or b2 interruption

[oblique ridge]

I changed my mind, team Cindy loses to SGs. Drake being p1 seems to have saved SGs from losing, because she’s going to nuke Noise or Noah

[umbral belfry]

Drake fan cheering for drake

[oblique ridge]

Looks like it’s triple L, gg Kilia

Updated

[shell hazel]

doesn't change anything anyway I think was losing that anyway prob

my opponent isn't a whale it looks like so not overwhelmed on cores either way

[oblique ridge]

Wow, wow, wow. Check this out. In an instant after this, BScarlet died. Look at the banned skull icon in BScarlet’s buffs row, that’s Indomitable

[lunar pawn]

so can I file a formal complaint to SU and they'll automatically give me the unlucky frame for their bugged game?

[oblique ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

Unlikely. RIP

[oblique ridge]

Also it’s doubtful whether BScarlet could turn it around

We’ll never know now

I mean, I predicted she could, but with this mixed signals we can’t even see how much damage BScarlet does to enemy team

So no data, no verification, RIP

But, Indomitable failed to apply, it takes 8 frames to apply

Meaning BScarlet received the buff and died within 8 frames after

Such timing

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal I forgot to say but

didn't expect t4 though

all these close calls in top 8

[wet crystal]

oh? did you take round 4?

[umbral belfry]

somehow

lost the battle, won the SG shoot out war

[oblique ridge]

Gunpowder and plot

[umbral belfry]

[wet crystal]

I liked the r2 and r4 matches

[umbral belfry]

so close on r2

180k helm is ouchie ouch

[wet crystal]

r1 and r3 tho lol, did you guys coordinate your team placements

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

we linked our pie minds somehow

[leaden marten]

@lunar pawn tell me when u atk me so that i can change my def before someone f***s me :'v

[gritty ridge]

Thoughts?

[tropic summit]

burst with helmT instead so you can prevent their B3 altogether

[oblique ridge]

idk the speeds, but I’d be concerned if they’re as fast as you or almost

[gritty ridge]

HelmT is only p2

[tropic summit]

also ensure either linked unit or jackal is in p5 to get feed from SG

[leaden marten]

s1 max?

[oblique ridge]

Because Helm burst is going to possibly one hit KO your trio link

[placid bloom]

you are gonna get nuked through links

[lunar pawn]

it's fine, wanted to test prior to the last CA round, too late now haha
thanks anyway

[tropic summit]

well enemy siren is in p1 and their solo B1, ensure you kill her but beware that snipers on attack start shooting in p5

[leaden marten]

ah ok

[tropic summit]

meaning ur helmt and RH are shooting p5

= change that team with an instant nuke or p1 pressure (SGs)

[gritty ridge]

Helm is 7 7 4

[raven flume]

[placid bloom]

everyone except Naga gonna be shooting p5 because Noah taunt

only thing that matters is you kill them before Helm bursts, or you wipe to linked nuke

their Noah is not bursting so that makes it easier

[tropic summit]

he can kill siren p1 to prevent enemy from bursting altogether

[gritty ridge]

So bad matchup cuz helmT vs jackal team

[tropic summit]

only p1 and p2 are taunted

[tropic summit]

yes helmT is jackal link killer

[raven flume]

this was my thought

[tropic summit]

you need SG spam or instant nuke

noah taunts after 1RL

2RL nuke even on single buff with some chip damage on p1 will likely kill at least siren

[gritty ridge]

I can definitely run 2rl with either rapi or ein

[tropic summit]

RRH can be considered a somewat nuke

ein on single or double buff can do too

[gritty ridge]

Ein would be harder cuz id need rh

Depending on rocks today I might be able to ol cindy tho

[raven flume]

would depend on ur build progress, yeah

[swift mango]

SEA 3% is 14b+, what about your server?

[tropic summit]

SR?

[swift mango]

Yeah. One union mate at 13.85B and 3.2%

[sleek imp]

anyone NA here that I can friend? someone unfriended me

[pale knoll]

1D off= Bye bye

[sleek imp]

NOO HIMEE

[sleek imp]

I never slack

anyone know whos winning for those 2?

[umbral belfry]

in my defense I said I would lose

[tropic summit]

you let him win

out of sheer kidness

[umbral belfry]

sir 😭

[tropic summit]

[pliant inlet]

Can anyone help me and tell me which team is winning here?

[tropic summit]

max core nero moran with max level doll

and nearly max core rapunzel

DR goes vrrrrrom

probably left

[sleek imp]

no no thats okay, better luck next time

[oblique ridge]

I think it’s obvious Nero, Moran, and Rapunzel will probably survive. Also, stun on Nero won’t stop Helm from bursting, Red Hood takes over B2 burst.

So how fast is the team?

[sleek imp]

idk, but I feel like scarlet isnt going to be able to kill a stall team

[umbral belfry]

single buff scar team is cooked

[tropic summit]

jura is asking the good question

if it's not 2.5RL, that team can still kick the bucket

considering their invest it should be safe to assume that's a 2.5RL but you never know, you can check previous rounds vids to ensure of 2.5RL

[umbral belfry]

surely that super invested stall team has crazy cs

surely

if they're using rh I'm gonna assume that

[oblique ridge]

Wild 25% chspd Helm

[umbral belfry]

crazy cs on helm and rh and rapu

[sleek imp]

gaming chair ol lines

[tropic summit]

no moran bufferino, ballsy

ripperoni perhaps?

[oblique ridge]

You forgot Red Hood but it does look cooked

[glad glade]

Sorry for the late response. Thank you!

[umbral belfry]

doesn't rh have something to do with burst gen or cs in her skills?

[tropic summit]

she can pierce cover but it's RNG

that pierce would indeed be enough to hit 2.5RL

[umbral belfry]

surely rng procs

[tropic summit]

i'm not gonna bet on that crap.

[umbral belfry]

surely

[oblique ridge]

Maybe he did this

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ

the moran quantum cube would be a first

[oblique ridge]

Quantum brain

[sleek imp]

Will slower noahcindy team still win agaisnt 2rl scar?

[tropic summit]

left team is ded

[sleek imp]

damn

[glad glade]

Blanc indom bug
Grim.

[oblique ridge]

Check this out too

@glad glade

[sleek imp]

Team cup perspective
Team 1 - slower so maybe ded?
Team 2 - Win
Team 3 - Idk who siren stuns
Team 4 - Win
team 5- Lost

[umbral belfry]

should be 3-2 cup also wrong sides again

[sleek imp]

oh right

[umbral belfry]

T1 cup
T2 cup
T3 big
T4 cup
T5 big

[glad glade]

Something like this happened to me too during a test. My SBS got the indom for a literal full second before the game pooped its pants and SBS died due to the bug

[umbral belfry]

my sgs won against cups but big's is much less invested than mine. and his rosa is

[sleek imp]

damn scar better than fat rl cindy team?

[umbral belfry]

won't burst as fast as cup's

[sleek imp]

I sea

[umbral belfry]

its double buff scar

[sleek imp]

True

[umbral belfry]

also t1 big is not faster than 2rl scar

[sleek imp]

Thanks, l'll vote cup now

[umbral belfry]

[oblique ridge]

Big and Cup fought, and… Cup won? Battle of the Big Cup

[sleek imp]

I think the battle of the pies was more exciting

[oblique ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-found-this-humerus-humorous-funny-hilarious-lol-gif-21266301

[umbral belfry]

creme confirmed not superior pie

[tropic summit]

@swift mango if elegg gets a skin would you buy it

[oblique ridge]

Depends on the Elegg skin I’d think

I was disappointed by first Poli skin

[tropic summit]

the skin reveals her belly

[forest zodiac]

@tropic summitsorry for pinging directly, but yesterday you've suggested me a SP def teams; however sadly they didn't work against the guy I need to get rid of.
May I ask for another one?

[swift mango]

The first gacha that asked me for mic permission for their function...

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/tzZmgLgMlM0

[swift mango]

Just realized I can just hit skip... Oh well...

[covert lintel]

Before even sbs died, why did she get so much dmg when atker blanc burst
From 75% to 20%, whose dmg is that?

[spiral onyx]

But have you told the game when your next period is?

[swift mango]

Thanks god they don't ask that.

[spiral onyx]

*yet

You haven't build up that bond meter up yet enough

[forest zodiac]

could someone please-please suggest me SP def teams? (I just need to defend once to break annoying loop of 7-5-2-5-7)

[wicked horizon]

I'm back again.
Team 2 hasn't lost yet, but Team 3 seems like a coinflip. Any ideas?

[wicked horizon]

Did you consult the pins?
I'd be happy to help with specifics that are not making 3 full teams. (I'm sleepy, sorry.)

[shell hazel]

did you hit the scarlet/mihara bug thing then?

[spiral onyx]

I'm actually not sure what happened in that fight. No idea how all my units died

[shell hazel]

we saw a similar event earlier

#pvp-arena message

scar/jack into mihara seems to screw with the game mechanics and cause mihara to do a lot more damage than expected

[swift mango]

It the bug. You are strong enough to win over that

Darn Midhara is the new better Delta now.... Better than Noah even.

[shell hazel]

adding stuff like the cindy p1 here might make it more likely to bug out

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-gif-24810109

[shell hazel]

you could test some mihara shenanigans with your union mate who sits in 1st maybe?

no one in my rookie runs mihara or scar/jack 😦

[spiral onyx]

Maybe later, in bed sick atm with slight fever, don't want to do anything or think about anything

[shell hazel]

it seems like scar/jack enters a feedback loop with mihara dot

[forest zodiac]

I couldn't make 3 teams with that list

[wicked horizon]

Really, who are you missing from what teams?

[onyx scaffold]

Make 2
Team 3 auto

[wicked horizon]

He's high level enough that he shouldn't need an auto team.

[forest zodiac]

list is too heavy on rumani\centi\noah
I don't have trina or laplaceT
emilia-less server too

[restive willow]

I wiped a black ammo and a blue ammo off of my scarlet to bring her down to 29 ammo. No regrets

[wicked horizon]

Lacking Noah and Clip RLs is a problem.
Maybe DPs suggestion is adequate.

[shell hazel]

they do have noah rumani etc though?

[wicked horizon]

🤔

[forest zodiac]

I didn't they I don't have hm

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[wicked horizon]

Why does it matter if the list is "heavy" on them?

[oblique ridge]

Now that you mention it, it’s possible

[shell hazel]

unsure if rookie acts diff to spa for this as well would need testing

[wicked horizon]

You can use Blanc instead of Trina and some clip SG instead of LaplaceT, I think.

[forest zodiac]

that means I don't have third team because these nikkes are used in other teams

[wicked horizon]

Those teams are made with the assumption you can make 3 teams out of them.
Which teams did you plan?

[shell hazel]

unfortunately I'm 1 in SPA and my rookie matchups suck so I can't test mihara really

[wicked horizon]

Ye, nah, lost with Team 3 again, I need something better for tomorrow.

[restive willow]

I'm not sure about the feedback loop theory. It means that with Jackal + any other unit, the loop would continue until everyone dies (or maybe until only Jackal survives?) but there was a clip earlier where only scarlet died

[shell hazel]

it's not as far as I can tell with jackal + anyone

it seems specifically jackal + scar

[restive willow]

I speculate it's maybe because the instant 20 stacks on everyone makes scarlet s2 get queried 60 times at once against mihara and it confuses the game

If it's a feedback loop thing then scarlet would have to die instantly when she gets 1 stack of DoT

[wicked horizon]

I gotta sleep, but can you make a Scarlet-Blanc-Jackal team
Noah-Biscuit-SAnis
And maybe Cindy THelm, and someone tanky-ish on P1 while still achieving 2 RL?
That's what I'm running, though I have some units you don't. Should still be doable.

Good luck~

[forest zodiac]

Scarlet-Blanc-Jackal team
Noah-Biscuit-SAnis
these two both need RH

[restive willow]

No? Especially the second one shouldn't use RH

[forest zodiac]

I'm refering list above?

[restive willow]

Wat who recommends SAnis with RH lol

[forest zodiac]

its eitheer RH or HelmT

if helmT it is then cindy team has no helmT

[wicked horizon]

SAnis with RH is fair.

I use XMaiden and Rapunzel with Scarlet, but I also have Trina.

So idk if the burst gen will be sufficient with blanc.

But I guess RH won't help that either way.

[restive willow]

Both ones shouldn't use RH, my two cents

[forest zodiac]

then what should be used then?

like I tried to come up with something multiple times and it doesn't work out

[restive willow]

Just looking at the suggestions there, I'd make a Jackal Scarlet team, a Noah Noise team, and a Blanc Biscuit team if I were to adjust what has already been proposed so far

[forest zodiac]

devil is in the details

[restive willow]

Unfortunately I give advice to provide directions, not spoon feed

[glad glade]

Could anyone please help me with my cheer? Top is defending and bottom is attacking. Crossed out teams are the losers

R1: On paper, the Rei T team should win due to being a slower RL. However, there may be the threat of the indom bug. I’m unsure of how Jack’s link works, so idk if the presence of 2 ARs would bring the SBS team to 2.5 or 2 RLs. If the SBS team is a 2RL team, then they may win because the Rei T team is a 3 RL (with link), and from my experience, indom teams that are 1 RL slower are in the threat of bug territory

R2: The Cindy team is faster than a 3 RL, but I’m unsure if its a 2.5 RL (B1 bursts when the timer hits 1:26 and Noah bursts at 1:25). Regardless, I believe Scar absolutely nukes this team

R3: Bottom. That stall team survived a double buff Scar (granted that scar was weak). It will survive the cindy nuke

R4: Top. SGs snake to the back and pick off Centi, and there’s no Jack link to protect them

R5: Top. Nero can facetank the shotguns and if she can’t for some reason, then there’s always Mana

[restive willow]

R1, both of them are 3RL because of Jackal feed. I'm not sure who would win actually :/ More likely Rei because she shoots faster, but it can flip based on CS% on those units
R2, even if Cindy is 2.5RL, Noah can't outpace Scarlet B3. I highly doubt all of those RLs have 25% CS. Agree
R3, noise+cindy is even stronger compared to buffed scarlet. I think there's a fair chance only nero survives the burst (thanks to her 100%+ dmg reduction) and she can't get through noah
R4, even if centi dies, the shotgun team doesn't reach 2RL (+36.54%). It boils down to if that centi can survive until she can shoot twice (3SG if 8%+ CS on centi, 4SG otherwise) which might not happen. But, if for some magical reason Centi can shoot twice, Rosanna would not burst to kill scarlet in time. With centi dead, shotgun team gets 2.3RL and sweeps
R5, simple enough yeah

I'd cheer for top. Pretty definitive win?

[glad glade]

Thank you! Sorry for the late reply, my break just ended when you sent your response. For R1, does that mean that the presence of Blanc doesn’t change top’s speed?

For some more context behind my analysis:

R3: the Moran team survived a stronger 2RL Noise Cindy team in the past. In addition, the double buff scarlet was a RH-Trina boosted Scar team. Everyone in the moran team survived both comps, hence my analysis

R4: Centi will die. A previous match involving 3 SGs with similar investments nearly killed Centi. If a fourth was thrown in at the time, Centi would be dead for sure. Now there is a fourth SG, so she’ll likely die

Once again, thank you for your analysis!

[restive willow]

not sure what you mean with blanc changing the speed. There's nothing in blanc's kit that makes a burst slower. Your reasoning for R3 and R4 sound fair

In terms of accelerating the bottom team, the top doesn't feed enough (overestimate with 24.85% feed at 3RL, not enough to fill 2.5RL 71.82) to bump the speed into 2.5RL territory, although it is enough to make the burst gen get decided by the faster CS between maiden and jackal

[glad glade]

Aaaaaaah gotchu gotchu, thank you!

[umbral belfry]

@glad glade fair warning that rosa apparently stops mana from ressing? in one fight this season rapu died and there was no res from mana vs sg comp

so either rosa really can do that or the game was being weird

[keen vapor]

[severe raven]

can somebody explain why attackers are favored in PVP? tried searching on discord and other sites, but i don't see any reasoning as to how/why they are

like do attackers start shooting first or something??

[tropic summit]

it's rosanna dispel, iron on mana is a buff, if that's remove, she cannot ress

generally iron would be remove after she ress, because she uses it... but in rosanna case she dispels it before she can use it for ress

[tropic summit]

attackers can shape their teams based on what opponent is running on defense, that's a huge advantage because you can run specific counters

e.g. a team on 3RL? punished by 2RL nuke
e.g. a team with noah in p1? punished by running siren
etc etc

[glad glade]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that lmao. Still, that nero is pretty powerful (131k CP with SR15 doll and 2 copies), so I doubt she’ll die anytime soon

[glad glade]

Btw, what is your opinion on my cheer prediction? So far its looking pretty straightforward, but I would still like your opinion

[umbral belfry]

sec checking in at airport

[umbral crown]

to visit me?

[midnight marsh]

Yeah, JP was talking about this a while ago when people started using Mana instead of Quiry in NeroMora for CA; Rosanna stripping Mana buffs. The logic in the end was that NeroMora's weakness is SG anyways so losing even harder in the matchup doesn't matter too much

This is why some people who run Mana in NeroMora will place Mana in the 5th position because they know she won't res anyone anyways if SG is defending. (The initial thinking would have been that you want her to be in pos 4 so she res pos 5 if pos 5 dies to SG. But in practice, not many people run SG without Ros). But I'm not personally 100% certain on all this. This is just what I vaguely remembered from the discussions.

[severe raven]

ohhh i see thank you

that makes so much sense LMAO

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel attack back

[clear vessel]

I'm thinking there's a good chance he'll gem. So I was waiting for the best moment to do it

[keen vapor]

He doesn't

I've tested him previous season

[clear vessel]

Oh then easy choice

[keen vapor]

Wait

[clear vessel]

Waiting

[keen vapor]

He changed his def isn't it

What were your attack teams?

[clear vessel]

He's doing that often. I am 3/3 now tho so doesn't matter

Hold up let me just align and screen

[keen vapor]

So it's same units

[clear vessel]

Ya

[keen vapor]

Oh, good

[clear vessel]

I hope he finds some solace in the fact that I'm super annoyed to have to click a bunch of times to rearrange.

[keen vapor]

Wym you don't hold click to swap order

[clear vessel]

I even got timed out because of the many expletives I typed because no I did not know that was a thing.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

So we are really getting Elegg for Summer, those Redditor predictions were dead true.

[keen vapor]

So your RH doesn't dies to Rossana?

[clear vessel]

I was so dumbfounded by the change order thing that I messed up the order

RH is supposed to be T3

[keen vapor]

So, Noah 3 RL vs his 2 RL....

But how does first team wins?

[clear vessel]

Uh having said that surprise I guess?

[keen vapor]

That makes more sense

[clear vessel]

First team? Raw force + mermaid disable second burst 2 so I kill ability to burst.

[umbral crown]

[clear vessel]

I have a video I think hold on

I was supposed to lose, I got lucky

Also Team 1 liter is sacrifice

[keen vapor]

Oh right, stat penalty

[clear vessel]

In the video it's T3

[keen vapor]

The power of high level I'll never know

[clear vessel]

If it makes you feel any better my one trait is being relentless. Rain or shine I'm there getting those dailies and resources.

...though I also do swipe from time to time.

[keen vapor]

You'll be proven wrong very soon

[keen vapor]

But I do daily missions as well

[clear vessel]

...I also have a whole spreadsheet on where to spend my dollars and which resources to go for. From day 1.

[keen vapor]

I didn't followed that kind of thing since I started

KELVIN! WHY YOU DIDN'T INSISTED ON ME FOR GEMMING EVENT STAMINA

[clear vessel]

Also, it's not like you're doing bad? You're C3 and got Top 64 in CA.

[keen vapor]

True

[clear vessel]

Meanwhile I'm fighting for my life here in SR.

[keen vapor]

But only on this shuffle

The other shuffle I even struggle to get C6

[keen vapor]

Last day malding

I did 11b btw

[clear vessel]

Did that secure you 3%? I fell a lot after they removed the nerf from mobile.

[keen vapor]

I got 3....... Point 99%

[clear vessel]

Agh. Closer every day tho

[keen vapor]

Yeah, at least I'm not falling from 5%

[clear vessel]

I used to be 1%

[keen vapor]

Someday I'll do it

Someday my malding will work off

[quick lake]

Finally got Quiry took her so long to come home

[keen vapor]

Watch her aiming

[quick lake]

Stall team is complete

[umbral belfry]

yes I'm omw rn

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

now stall team next season

[umbral belfry]

T1 ? usually it's the slower indom that often wins but top team will be at 3rl too. this can go either way unless bottom has enough feed for 2.5?
T2 top
T3 likely bottom
T4 likely top; more times than not have I seen sgs + rosa beat a scar team without jack, esp on defend
T5 ? apparently nero can fall to SGs according to some people here but I can't personally say if she does or doesn't. therefore it's hard for me to predict this

lmk how t5 goes so I can see for myself

[glad glade]

Thank you! I’ll report my findings to you with a recording

[raven plover]

rheax champion next season

[swift mango]

@tropic summit @umbral belfry

I finally experienced the lowest after out of new player luck protection today. Hard pity and earned the achievement for it.

Finally done with try hard and got the targey. Now I go read the rest of the story I left at middle and uninstall.

[strong hull]

[coarse lake]

what happened to blood while I was away

[sleek imp]

Are we deadass

We all play this game too now?

||friend me||

[sleek imp]

🏳️‍🌈

[umbral belfry]

let the man be

[raven plover]

wheres affinity 70 asmr

[fiery delta]

Can anyone help me make the best possible pvp team with these nikkes? Ty

[glad glade]

Question: which would cause more burst gen from jackal feed: a single shotgun, or 2 ARs?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Crown/Ein/Liter/Naga/Raven

[fiery delta]

Thank you 🙏

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Your fault you're never here

Not even when I ping you

[coarse lake]

I've been uh

getting milk

[keen vapor]

:pepeh:

Where is it

[coarse lake]

it spoiled on the way home

[keen vapor]

[covert lintel]

[keen vapor]

[glad glade]

Sorry. I’m losing my mind over a cheer since both teams involve Jackal outside of the classic Scar-Jack comp. Trying to find CS from those comps is like trying to find a needle in a haystack

[keen vapor]

I see same feed

[glad glade]

I think I’m going insane lmao

[glad glade]

Wait a minute, same feed?? Holy moly, I think you just gave me the golden ticket to who’s going to win

Thank you!!!!

[glad glade]

My gems are cooked this September

[strong hull]

Echocho-san

[shell hazel]

I only need all 6 re-runs

[livid marsh]

Wow you play love and deep space

[candid pivot]

do they have a good google docs anywhere that shows team compositions on attack/defense in all forms of the arena?

[shell hazel]

time to try out some vampire waifu game

[whole pawn]

@fathom rock dear god he is behind me, if i take chal 10 he will imediatley fight me xd

[regal garden]

When the event starts

After the collab?

Or after Sora's event?

[tawny vine]

saw xanne is coming back but feels like b2 positions are fixed in spa now. do people still use her there?

[pale knoll]

No

Maybe for CA and that's it

[vapid lake]

So nothing, ok

[onyx scaffold]

when was the last time they shuffled SpA?

[raven plover]

May

I think new chapter, spa shuffle

[onyx scaffold]

late may yes

next reshuffle will be 14th August

new chapters expected 21st August

[raven plover]

need to go back to my old bracket so no one hit me

[onyx scaffold]

assume 3 weeks for summer + 1 filter 2-week event

[onyx scaffold]

but i need more levels for UR.

cannot stay 54x for challenger union

[raven plover]

cant relate boss

[onyx scaffold]

gotta get level 15 for vigor cube -. -

that is a joke

[fathom rock]

If he hits you, you fall back to dia1, maybe he outta tries

[whole pawn]

so u say we attack right

[onyx scaffold]

i will be able to reset her without costing 10 gems.

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

patience paid off! I have 2-3 like that as well lmao

[solid gorge]

Man...i need Anne Anis and this event there will be Rosanna and Sakura..
I have only 800 tickets..

I hope its not Summer Elegg and the unit is skippable😭

[shell hazel]

it's summer elegg

[oblique ridge]

I'm running out of time to decide this cheer

[oblique ridge]

For Attacking side (Left):
R1: L if Cindy dies fast
R2: L if Scarlet can't really wipe and Nero tankily survives
R3: L if SGs shoot Noise then Noah too slowly
R4: W if Blanc indom is in time
R4: W if stall survives

So the question is, will the R1 Cindy die fast?

[misty finch]

And recs for SP def teams? Have tried variations of the pinned ones but they keep getting beaten

Also have a bunch of spare doll mats so maybe I should lvl up some PvP units to SR15?

[swift mango]

Sure, your ID?

[swift mango]

LADS bond level could go to infinity. Just like this game synch level.

[shell hazel]

told ya 🙂
#pvp-arena message

[loud sonnet]

Summer doro and elegg

[oblique ridge]

Summer Elegg "might be skippable" but Summer Doro.. GL

Because now have Tove, Viper, Leona, Summer Doro, for a water SGs team

[tropic summit]

objective completed?

[tropic summit]

post updated box and the variations they defeated so we can make a new attempt

[tropic summit]

emi splash hurts, even more so with RH B1, the only possible thing from that setup at least

[oblique ridge]

Turns out the new summer units might not be all B3, so it's confusing

TOVE FAV ITEM OMG

[quick lake]

BAY treasure yall

one pvp unit at least

[shell hazel]

poli can work for SG comp as well tbh

[oblique ridge]

Keripo and Poli investors getting vindicated

[shell hazel]

would be interesting how she does there with the treasure as she's alright even without one

[oblique ridge]

And Nero potentially crying if Bay replaces her

[dim escarp]

poli and bay

it's over

[onyx scaffold]

i got nero sr15 yesterday

[shell hazel]

I was coping for a treasure for someone I already had at SR-15 lmao

[quick lake]

Poli teamwide shield would be crazy lmao

[shell hazel]

but nope, all 4 units are not invested 😄

[onyx scaffold]

20sec poli

[oblique ridge]

20s CD Poli and all shields become individual (meaning works for Naga) Prayge

[quick lake]

Only Bay and Poli feasable. We wait for kit ig

[oblique ridge]

Julia can go anywhere

[quick lake]

Julia probably new crit meta unit if it even works

[oblique ridge]

PvE, PvP, we don't know - since 5 targets is a perfect match for AoEing full team in pvp

[quick lake]

Nice to have Tove treasure for raids

[loud sonnet]

Breed fav item wer?

[quick lake]

Honestly dk how they're gonna treasure bay. Her kit isn't translated properly to begin with

[shell hazel]

I need another copy of Bay for 2LB

[tropic summit]

SP arena

jackal siren trina xmaiden scarlet
noise rumani cind helm anchorIM
noah biscuit s.anis rh centi

Cubes

quantum on jackal, xmaiden, trina
temperance on noah
vigor on noise, biscuit
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL (else run SBS)
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

[raven plover]

I saw someone on twitter uploading a guy affinity 70 scene and I finally understand why the game make a lot of money

[swift mango]

It's more about having zero competition on the market currently.

[forest zodiac]

@tropic summit box and "solved" teams

[oblique ridge]

Now that the stream is over, any surviving cooks that stopped drooling over the summer characters and treasures?

[quick lake]

Realised my bay lb0

[signal hull]

Same. I'm panicing!!

[vapid lake]

At least 2 of these treasures likely have pvp potential

[solid gorge]

BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

[oblique ridge]

Oh, this team is dead to SGs. 2.5RL is way too slow even with this obscene cubing and chspd

[vapid lake]

Poli and bay, well bay is guaranteed, what else is she gonna be used for

[solid gorge]

I AM FULLY LEBANISE AFTER TGIS ELEGG
sad it's MG and dead in pvp

[swift mango]

So we can pull a Pilgrim for 2% rate now?

[quick lake]

1% wdymn

[oblique ridge]

I better switch my cheer

[signal hull]

Hopefully she will be mega good this time...

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey I'm cheering for you as usual

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal what are you thoughts Mr rapi simp

[wet crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-aoogah-awoogah-awooga-love-gif-19805850

[signal hull]

This doesn't looks like Rapi at all, also lose the damn shirt, woman 😠

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOOO

[tropic summit]

the problems in those setup:

-noah on a 3RL team
-bay in p2
-scarlet in p1, also on 66% and 74% to 2RL

advise:

-make a 2.5RL or 2RL noah, noah must not be p1 and possibly must not have taunt priority (run with noise on lower CS%)
-make a team with bay on 2RL or 2.5RL but she needs to be p3 or p4
-make scarlet into at least 91%-95% to 2RL (via feed)

[wet crystal]

I'll take a second copy and max her

[umbral belfry]

I'm in my car with my dad trying to hide my phone

can't have him know my goonette ways

do we know if it's a gacha skin? can't watch stream rn

[quick lake]

Yes, Rapi is gacha. In nikke news

[wet crystal]

Red Flavor

[umbral belfry]

[raven plover]

we havent get rapipi skin voting and they release rapipi summer gacha skin

[umbral belfry]

[signal hull]

Bleh.. Just a gacha skin...

[umbral belfry]

I saw elegg's summer and had to scroll up so quick bc I was next to my dad 😭

[swift mango]

My pulls are dried. Idk how many I would need for A2.

[tropic summit]

your dad would've taken a peek too

[raven plover]

you trying to mlb?

[wet crystal]

I havent pulled nier yet, I expect all my reserves to be emptied with all these summer stuff

[swift mango]

Just 1 copy

[signal hull]

Just skip nier. I know I will.

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOO STOP

[raven plover]

you will get her from the login free pulls

[wet crystal]

I'll try the 20 purple tickets

[swift mango]

I hope

[tropic summit]

if you've the same luck as your rocks and OL, i've bad news

[umbral belfry]

2b in 1st 10 and a2 in the 2nd

also bay treasure

[quick lake]

Poli treasure too

[wet crystal]

Holy Elegg!!

[umbral belfry]

both already usable in pvp

[quick lake]

Summer Doro might be usable in pvp. We cope clipSG

[umbral belfry]

[solid gorge]

Elegg ...

[swift mango]

[wet crystal]

Bay looking W E T

[tropic summit]

sweet mother of god right in front of my pg13 family friendly gacha game?!

@swift mango LOOK AT HER #pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

RAIL IM WITH MY DAD

[tropic summit]

IDC SOMETHING IS RISING AND IT ISN'T THE SHIELD HERO

[solid gorge]

I like Chinese design of elegg

[umbral belfry]

[wet crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[swift mango]

You don't need to link to your comment just above.

[tropic summit]

you gonna buy it aren't you

be true to your instincts

[quick lake]

Rapi gacha skin too

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

New lewd treasure Bay wallpaper too

[tropic summit]

[oblique ridge]

Supplementing this with Nikke Deck.
Blllllue is "Defending" so is Top in Nikke Deck, but is on Right in the second screenshots.
Tataru is "Attacking" so is Bottom in Nikke Deck, but is on Left in the second screenshots.

[tropic summit]

they gonna run us dry, in many ways

[wet crystal]

PG13?

[forest zodiac]

I forgot to add cubes, but scarlet t3 is already 93% 2rl
bay moran team - just move thelm and bsoda to p2-p3 so bay p4?
not sure how to speed up noah team to even if i kick siren from it
about noah-noise - noah has more CS than noise

[swift mango]

Treasure bay?

Fr?

[wet crystal]

Extra W E T

[umbral belfry]

[wet crystal]

I have enough for an sr15

[umbral belfry]

alright I'm going to sleep it's almost 5 am back home but with this new timezone it's almost 8

[shell hazel]

my bay is cooked chat 😦

[glacial lion]

noah can taunt soda stun? i lose 2 times in a row

[oblique ridge]

I need to confirm the speed of Attacking side's Moran and Cindy teams

• R1 (Cindy)
• R4 (Blanc)

I need to confirm the speed of Defending side's Moran, Cindy, and Blanc teams

• R2 (Moran)
• R3 (Cindy)
• R5 (Blanc)

[quick lake]

yes, she can taunt

[oblique ridge]

RIP

[glacial lion]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

bay moran team - just move thelm and bsoda to p2-p3 so bay p4?
bay wants p3 p4 to avoid burning her cover pre burst

**not sure how to speed up noah team to even if i kick siren from it **
you need siren on instant nuke team or to expect a blanc in p1, on defense that sucks unless opponent is a monkey so prefer running her on scarlet team

about noah-noise - noah has more CS than noise
good

[tropic summit]

where chime summer skin

[signal hull]

wtb 2 more Bay asap!!

[loud sonnet]

Red rapi costume was gacha costume

[wet crystal]

*for now

[shell hazel]

where Chime?

[keen vapor]

[signal hull]

Chime is non-combat.

[tropic summit]

sleep well, happy elegg's dreams

[wet crystal]

Support unit chime doko

[keen vapor]

She can combat

[signal hull]

heh I knew I'll get a "KISAMAAA!!!" from you.

[loud sonnet]

Doro is a mag sg not clip I think

[shell hazel]

got a full set of gear to OL

[wet crystal]

Chime's out of commission from her spider soup dinner and can't join commander

[wet crystal]

R0, still got doll mats?

[shell hazel]

[signal hull]

rofl

[wet crystal]

OH lol

[tropic summit]

what's that no signal

why is my pg13 family friendly game hiding assets

[shell hazel]

some

[tropic summit]

surely not because there's content not suitable for pg13

[shell hazel]

enough to R-15 and I have a purple RL doll for SR-5, I'll actually wait to see kits though first

[swift mango]

So where do we get a list of new treasure nikkes?

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain #pvp-arena message just in case you missed it

[quick lake]

Tove Bay Julia Poli

[forest zodiac]

so prefer running her (siren) on scarlet team
but that contradicts what you've said above about 2-2.5RL scar team?

[tropic summit]

scarlet can be 2RL.2.5RL with siren

[forest zodiac]

in the end I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here

[swift mango]

That's all?

[signal hull]

No Maxwell? T_T

[forest zodiac]

really?

[tropic summit]

w/e post your box @forest zodiac

[shell hazel]

they do 4 treasures every 6 months

[signal hull]

who tf even has Julia...

[quick lake]

Elegg alt, Doro alt, thats all

[swift mango]

Where did you get that list?

[placid bloom]

It’s on Twitter

[loud sonnet]

Hope I can get sr15 early🛐

[quick lake]

live stream news. Can check nikke news

[swift mango]

Thanks.

[quick lake]

In #game-news @swift mango less treasure units

[covert lintel]

Wtf

[signal hull]

That's crazy, I thought I had a lot of doll mats saved up...

[tropic summit]

where's trina?

[quick lake]

lewd Bay wall paper treasure

[forest zodiac]

sorry I didn't know and my thought was that it would it too much into other teams teams

[eager mountain]

[forest zodiac]

no trina at all

[tropic summit]

let's remove that no signal

[shell hazel]

gimme

[tropic summit]

wishlist then, you can't achieve the teams above without her

[forest zodiac]

she is wishlisted

[swift mango]

I can't find it but thanks

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

#game-news message here

[eager mountain]

woah tove treasure… they keep giving sg team something the moment they fall behind

[swift mango]

I'm so cooked if they increased poli burst gen. I have zero poli.

[keen vapor]

I will treasure Poli no matter what

[covert lintel]

Bay and tove are good already, why get treasure

[quick lake]

Im hoping for more Poli usage tbh. No more stupid viper in pvp

[oblique ridge]

Found this matchup - Tataru's Cindy tanked this SG team

[keen vapor]

So

I must treasure 3 units huh?

[quick lake]

Possible with very high cs% + tanky noise

[eager mountain]

oh yeah rail biggest tove poli fan

[keen vapor]

TOVE NEEDS TREASURE TO INCREASE THAT RNG OF HER SKILL 1 UP

[quick lake]

Recent treasures are good. Look at trashy viper and Exia and Milk

[loud sonnet]

That took a lot

[oblique ridge]

And this time Blllllue's team is Defending, so it's these SG that will be trying to do what that other team couldn't

It looks worse, so I think Cindy will actually survive

[tropic summit]

try run these next

[covert lintel]

but there are so many old nikke who need treasure to balance things up

[swift mango]

Peep guessed Julia for summer because her nick name has "ghost" in it so overlapped with summer theme. But treasure instead so I guess they hit it still.

[quick lake]

Depends whether left Rosanna nukes Siren possibly

[raven plover]

man it would be huuggge it its emma bay

[tropic summit]

yeah it's christmas for me for once in this game

[forest zodiac]

t3 never bursting is fine?

[keen vapor]

TOVE IS YEAR 1 BAKA

[tropic summit]

CP pad because any meta team you can run won't be 2.5RL

get your CS% up on jackal, centi, noise and rumani

and get that trina asap

[keen vapor]

-# and three weeks

[swift mango]

Julia is day one baka.

[keen vapor]

And she got it?

[quick lake]

My Julia was my 160 wall chara

[swift mango]

So when's crow? Surely they saved her because she would be too OP for current power level.

[tropic summit]

used in the chimney

[quick lake]

Julia has the highest chance to be a pve meta chara. Actually just need more buffs

[covert lintel]

rupee, admi, folkwang etc are from the game release baka

[keen vapor]

Along with Maxwell treasure, trust

[quick lake]

I was lowkey hoping folkwang or sugar

[oblique ridge]

I changed my cheer back to Tataru

[tropic summit]

folk

[keen vapor]

Why you mention burst 2 as if Poli didn't receive treasure

[oblique ridge]

Because it appears to be a 4-1 win for Tataru, but there's so much uncertainty here.

SG teams trying to dismantle Cindy team on both sides.

[quick lake]

Yolo cheer

[oblique ridge]

And vs Emilia, the Nero & Moran team for Tataru will have the chance to have full Damage Reduction going, and presumably Helm will be full health from bursting

[covert lintel]

Oh u want b1? Mary, yan, Ludmilla

[quick lake]

afaik, i think double buff emi should wipe out the opponent

[keen vapor]

I was thinking summer skin reruns did come with treasures

[swift mango]

I leveled her burst to 7 yesterday but no treasure today.

[eager mountain]

good for ya

[quick lake]

My milk burst is 7 too

[tropic summit]

did you see those assets tho

[swift mango]

That's because you built her treasure.

[eager mountain]

I see Colosseo

[tropic summit]

touching grass is good

[keen vapor]

People needing skill reset here
-# Maxed LaplaceT burst↑

Oi shut up notes!

[eager mountain]

too much walk too damn hot too many ppl

[tropic summit]

glad i'm in my bunker at home being absolutely the opposite of productive

although i've to get an haircut today and go shopping

[covert lintel]

Will poli become clip sg?

[tropic summit]

lemme ask my colleague that works in SU /s

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Maybe 2nd PvE-only meta I would 101010

[signal hull]

Machine gun. Aggh. I'm sick and tired of machine guns.

[tropic summit]

that censor is annoying

[eager mountain]

travel guide part time to get productive

[signal hull]

Ok I'm taking this one, no matter what.

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-blades-clipper-clippers-cut-gif-4399243330879697678

What element for doro? @swift mango

[loud sonnet]

Watah

I'm going to pull for both just incase

[oblique ridge]

Confirmed this team (Tataru's) will be B1 bursted at the very end of 1:26 on clock. So by the end of 1:25 on clock, will finish B3 burst, surely

[swift mango]

Water. Automatic useless for arena

[covert lintel]

If you are using biscuit, you can't make a second full burst

[quick lake]

SG unit though

[swift mango]

Probably mag SG.

[oblique ridge]

Looks like Emilia, Red Hood, and Jackal will be B3 nuked by Helm, resulting in, I imagine, full health Helm, dead Red Hood and Jackal (died in one hit, so no Invincible), but Emilia is safely Indomitable getting ready to burst nuke enemy.

Nero and Moran won't have triggered Biscuit invincible yet (too high health), I think. Maybe Nero will have.

[covert lintel]

That helmT alone can't kill more than 1 nikke except jackal

[oblique ridge]

The full health allies will likely be Biscuit, Rapunzel, Helm. Nero is likely Invincible but not guaranteed. Moran's probably exploding but if not then she'll instantly heal (passive from low hp) or be invincible too.

[covert lintel]

I'm sure it will be similar to sugar
So she will be clip sg

[oblique ridge]

A lot depends on if Emilia one hit KOs whole team... If Rapunzel survives, she'll keep Nero and Moran alive vs Blanc, Emilia, Biscuit

Oh well, I'll just stick with the cheer and try again next CA season if it loses

[tropic summit]

you're "sure"

as sure as this

[crystal flicker]

Bay Treasure, will we get another charge gen++

[raven plover]

nero destroyer?

[raven plover]

nah

[covert lintel]

She has atk speed like sugar and skill like maidpriv

[raven plover]

no way she can reveal ros like maidpriv?

[covert lintel]

Even without doro nero always died to 3sg in CA

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

I have seen half half.

Always is a lie

[tropic summit]

anyone would want to destroy her

[tropic summit]

SR15 temperance lvl 7 max core

💳

[swift mango]

Some people forget to max skill 2 as well.

[tropic summit]

if they've SR15 temperance lvl 7 max core and forget to level up skills, i'd question if they wear pants during the day

[swift mango]

Rapu s1 max too.
Not to mention Mana.

[tropic summit]

on max core, both

and rapu with 21% CS

[covert lintel]

My sugar nearly sr15

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[swift mango]

Now wait for next year

[vapid lake]

Tove treasure is better, we dont know what treasure kit does yet but for all u know maybe it says "starts fight with max stacks on skill 1" so shotgun team start with increased attack speed

[tropic summit]

now that'd be very pvp friendly

from killing 2 nikke in 2.5RL to killing 4 in 2RL let's go

[vapid lake]

im ready

[placid bloom]

imagine Tove usable in PvP

[oblique ridge]

Oh right... we can start giving and maxing dolls now

Who were they again?

[vapid lake]

Tove poli bay julia

[placid bloom]

Poli Julia Tove Bay

[oblique ridge]

Alright

Doing all 4 after cheer results

[placid bloom]

still probably better to wait on kits just in case

cuz they might randomly suck

[vapid lake]

Tove is the only doll i made gonna wait on the other3

[oblique ridge]

I get everyone's treasure anyway Also max them though we'd need the treasure maintenance kit farm

[placid bloom]

like Bay could be nothing but CP pad if she doesn't get a real upgrade to her function

[vapid lake]

Julia actually have potential, she is an IRON ELE screenwipe, if the treasure increases this dmg to scarlet+ lvl

[oblique ridge]

5 units But yeah. If it changes from 5 enemies to "All enemies" and damage is boosted or an effect is added.

3 seconds stun, 1,000% final attack, plus another 1,000% final attack when Crescendo is fully stacked. For example.

[vapid lake]

There only 5 enemies in pvp

[placid bloom]

seem like a lot of time needed to stack s2

even if it proc every charge shot it's not fast enough

wait nvm she's AR not SR

[oblique ridge]

Oh boo, it went into fight not cheer

1 hour

[placid bloom]

2 hours

[swift mango]

Just so you know, Julia will hit Cindy decoy and can't hit Rossana.

So she is useless against Cindy with just boost her dmg.

And Scar team is squishy and died to virtually any wipe anyway.

[shell hazel]

1 hour until results

if I win this I could wind up with a rough final one of the potential opponents is a mega whale with a bunch of cores

need rngesus to help me

[placid bloom]

no this is your championship run

have faith

[shell hazel]

[solid gorge]

so funny

I got Julia mlb last week from tribr tower and today a core from mold

PLEASE BE USEFULL

Bay should be good as well since she is rl

[opal aspen]

Could I get some help with pvp team suggestions here?

https://imgur.com/a/CtNxn2x

This who I have so far

[swift mango]

Anyone know if summer doro is 1% or 2% ?

[shell hazel]

0.5%

[swift mango]

A dude in question answered the same. You guy must have rehearsaled together.

I will just ticket her if so

[raven plover]

1.5%

[shell hazel]

i'll accept only 3.5%

[signal hull]

Should I waste event currency and get Pascal? I don't really see any use for... he/she/it... Even in CA... But who knows...

[swift mango]

There were peep that got to champ with pascal I think

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

For CA usable, for SPA no

[glad glade]

@restive willow @umbral belfry I lost the streak….

Rei reloaded at the worst time possible…

[shell hazel]

mega whale in the final

bunch of max cores

[atomic wolf]

bay treasure mmm

my pvp stocks? rising

[glad glade]

I’m never getting that silver cheer frame at this point. Its always the top 4 that I keep losing…..

[shell hazel]

you gotta win it and back yourself to win it... 😛

[glad glade]

Thats exactly what I’m going to do lmao. I’ve already 7/10/10 my rosa and am working on my Moran rn

[shell hazel]

i'll deck the teams later but not convinced I can win against the mega whale with all their cores

[glad glade]

Also, how the hell does Mana have greater final attack than Treasured Helm??

[swift mango]

It's depending on the match up. Core only matter in close case.

[shell hazel]

somewhat but all helps

max core rosa with sr-15 will hurt 😄

I can catch up on cores eventually as I get a steady stream of ord tickets and most of my wishlist is pvp units

but 8 months in and my highest is helmT at core 5 this dude got about 10 max cores in their CA 😛

i'll do some decks in about 3 hours time but meh not that confident on the matchups just at a glance

[glad glade]

Man the final matchup is so easy too….

[oblique ridge]

Whoo

[placid bloom]

repeat champ?

[oblique ridge]

Wow, it was more lopsided than I called, and I was even doubtful if it’d be actually as good as 4-1

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey sorry but I think Chris is going to win this round....

[oblique ridge]

I am 1 cheer away from the winning cheers streak

Tataru vs Keripo, who?!

[swift mango]

I could have gotten losing streak if I didn't forget to cheer on top 16 match.

[misty jackal]

Yo @clear folio am I against you in the finals?

[covert lintel]

Win again so i can get loser frame @raven plover

[clear folio]

looks like it, gratz!

[swift mango]

@raven plover senior citizen finally getting out of the slum.

[oblique ridge]

RIP, doesn’t look like a clear cut call on Tataru vs Keripo matchup

[misty jackal]

thanks, expecting to get whooped, but been anticipating that the last 3 rounds.
Got space in your union for me?

[placid bloom]

is it new champion time

or will ace get the repeat

[clear folio]

oh wow lol we full but ask @worthy sorrel

[misty jackal]

yeah if you can let me win i'd love to get the frame

[raven plover]

wtf I won?

[clear folio]

xD @placid bloom review pls lol, i have 18 cs on all but trina/rumani, 21 on biscuit

[oblique ridge]

R1: Noah Siren Cindy vs Defending SGs (no Poli)
R2: Scarlet Trina RH vs Nero Moran Biscuit
R3: Attacking SGs vs Trina Cindy
R4: Blanc Jackal BScarlet vs Noah Emilia
R5: Moran Nero Biscuit vs Scarlet Blanc Jackal

[misty jackal]

hopefully he isnt too upset i just beat him

[signal hull]

Do we need 18% now? Come on, I just got to 17 on some -.-

[clear folio]

cup is the coolest bro in d game xD

[misty jackal]

lol good to hear, you never know

but yeah if you guys eventually get space (if you are full now), ill jump ship if you get space

[covert lintel]

Yeah, I predicted siren saved the day

[placid bloom]

you need 18cs to be 1 frame faster than 15cs user (17 might be slower by 1 frame depending on rounding)

[scarlet adder]

hmm can i win this? probably don't have better options than this that would not drop my cp severly

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[crystal flicker]

T RNG T B RNG?

[oblique ridge]

Without looking at anything else, this appears to be:
R1: L (It’s Keripo SGs, should be extremely high dmg and kills p5 Cindy)
R2: W (Fatal AoE)
R3: L (enemy team will survive long enough for Cindy AoE nuke)
R4: W (Indom victory)
R5: L (Fatal AoE + sustain)

[covert lintel]

I knew cp gapped ppl never get cs on his nikkes so it lead to that lose

[raven plover]

did my emma win

[covert lintel]

Of course not

[raven plover]

[oblique ridge]

Oh nice, I think Keripo wins

Time to cheer him when I can and it’s gg

[covert lintel]

Should use sakura to fight against reiT

[clear folio]

i told em u interested waiting for a response, but choco is full, might have on the other 4. w8 n see if they contact you, gL 🍻

[misty jackal]

kool

[raven plover]

[misty jackal]

was hoping to join choco to get those sweet sweet tournament rewards

[covert lintel]

Emma will lose again next match

[raven plover]

at least I beat fahren by sheer luck

[crystal flicker]

Do you think top gonna kill Scarlet before burst?

[shell hazel]

Think my next matches look a bit like this. I'm top/def.

@tropic summit @swift mango and anyone else, want to make predictions? 😄

[covert lintel]

Sg will die instead

[shell hazel]

my opponent is fairly well built in general with lots of cores so scared 😮

[covert lintel]

Don't underestimate 2s immunity

[crystal flicker]

No Jackal tho

[covert lintel]

This is exactly what i said

[shell hazel]

t1 - I don't like my odds here biscuit locked defenders and cindy, I probably lose.
t2 - I should win as siren is only b1 and she's at p5 with my SG on def, so they can't burst.
t3 - fastish double buffed scarlet probably wiped me before indom so I think I lose
t4 - depends if my single buff scarlet can beat their moderately invested stall comp. Rapu/Mana not that high CP at least, but Helm is max core.
t5 - depends if Cindy gets to burst, siren may at least slow down the rolling SG thunder

so I think L | W | L | ? (probably L) | ? (probably L)

[crystal flicker]

SG is attacker?

Seems so

[swift mango]

T1: investment dependant

T2: you win

T3: you lose

T4: investment dependant

T5: investment dependant. But you win unless they could normal attack noise and one shot siren before she burst

Since you said he had max core and SR15 you are screwed

[dusty tulip]

Who should I use on team or replace on sd for both arenas?

[covert lintel]

No, that example was defender but every scar trina instantly kill sg attacker

2s is what needed

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Siren doesn't slow down anything. If their team is 2rl after killing Noise and Rossana+Drake s2 kill Siren you lose. Otherwise, you win.

[shell hazel]

yeah not confident I walk away with more than 1 win, so I suppose it's out of my hands and I'm not liking how the chips have fallen here

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, so close yet so far
Thanks!

[shell hazel]

I should vote for the other guy so I get my winning cheer frame 😄

[crystal flicker]

I would win if I'm defender

[worldly osprey]

nooooo i will win trust me

[swift mango]

You got it!

[dusty tulip]

Can someone help?

[glad glade]

@dense kindle how did your cheer go btw?

[dense kindle]

Oh that's right let me check

[worldly osprey]

i got it. in my dream

[glad glade]

Shippidi won

Looks like I was right, if you voted for Shippidi, congrats!

[tropic summit]

check enemy invest on T4, if they're trash nero/moran you'll be good, T5 is clutchable but siren gonna need to live

[glad glade]

I lost my streak in the most bs way possible….

[swift mango]

Next CA my main mission would be to get the cheer frame... It's 2 times I forgot to cheer and lose the frame already.

Did you get both frame?

[tropic summit]

synchro 254 and you've emilia, you're bricked sir

Regardless you can refer to these:
#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

think 1/4 could swap the other way potentially, it does depend some on RNG I guess

[dense kindle]

You were right! Damn what happened to yours?

[placid bloom]

might be 5-0.
r1 their Biscuit proc is triggered on Rumani + Noah but yours is only on Noah, so their invin runs out faster.
r2 win based on investment, cup's team won this one too
r3 slow indom vs low feed Scarlet, they will not indom in time
r4 attacker should be favored for SG mirror because attacker shoots BSoda, defender shoots Noir. Invest looks close on both sides
r5 if you are on quantum, their team will feed you to 2RL. If you are not on quantum it's harder to say because it depends on SBS slash timing to be faster than 2.5RL, or you might not indom in time if you have to wait for 2.5RL

[glad glade]

Unexpected reloading right as indom ended for R1 in a indom ReiT vs indom SBS fight and apparently Mana having more final atk than Thelm thanks to her S1 for R5 in a nero-moran stall vs SG. I genuinely hate this

[worldly osprey]

i have both already. 2 times champion. 1 vote for me and 1 vote for enemy

[glad glade]

#pvp-arena message

[clear folio]

R5 is 2rl blanc and a repeat of top 16? i think, ayt GG xD

[dense kindle]

We run it back again next season, I also lost the round before this

[misty jackal]

@clear folio what is the over under between you and me?

[placid bloom]

I mean the thing about SG mirror is that it can always be decided by Ros crit

[misty jackal]

i barely squeaked by vs cup

[placid bloom]

because if there is luck on crit, then BSoda and Drake can get one-shot after Noir dies

but it shouldn't matter for match score

[glad glade]

Exactly. Its so disheartening that this is 3 months now and I keep losing for the most asinine reasons, but I’m never giving up for my beautiful wife. That silver frame is perfect for her

[clear folio]

over/under?

[misty jackal]

chances you or i win

[placid bloom]

you should lose 0-5, or at most 1-4

[misty jackal]

im using betting slagnto think i am cool

[placid bloom]

unfortunately

[tropic summit]

just have better RNG problem solved

[clear folio]

should be 5-0

[placid bloom]

r4 SG mirror is the only one that can maybe be RNG'd

you kill Noir fast and then crit Ros on both BSoda and Drake

and his Ros doesn't crit, that's your win condition

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel volted for u

[tropic summit]

or run rosa max core SR15 with temperance lvl 11

💳

[placid bloom]

the rest there is no RNG involved

you just straight up lose the matchup

[shell hazel]

I am really not convinced on mine here at all 😄

[hollow lagoon]

i dont care, its the spirit, about time my arena buddy get a w

[misty jackal]

yeah assumed as much

[hollow lagoon]

bay treasure soon tho

[misty jackal]

been copying their teams and trying to build up those units. they are not optimized

[dense kindle]

Seems like this last match might be close for the Round 2 matchup is Noah safe from Siren stun there in p2 I'm not sure how her stun works in PvP

[shell hazel]

fish fingers crossed 🙂

[glad glade]

Nah DPX wins. Noise will be the one to get stunned and Biscuit will provide the stall necessary for the winning sustained damage

[calm gull]

is my team okay for SPA?
p.s: no tlap, no emilia(ofc).
any suggestion?

[glad glade]

Anywayd, DPX will win overall. Too many counters and his stall team has greater cores/overall CP than Shippidi’s