#pvp-arena
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lmao
I lost t4 due to invested stall comp
because of the ammo refil from siren
but this time t4 is kind of meh I'll be surprised if I lose, so even if t4 wins and t5 loses think it's still 3-2 to me
uh let's see
I can provide opponent CP if it helps 🙂
t3 I'm pretty confident on they're sending SG's into biscuit locked def
bah this one would be surprising if you lost
think you looking at 3-2 or 4-1 for you
on the offchane rosanna does crit on both SBS and RH then just bad RNG
you running temperance on them?
thanks Rail appreciated
I don't have many temp cubes will add some more if I can next UR
Im having trouble making arena and sp arena teams. any ideas?
temp on nero + moran at least
hmm ok
mine is low level, I'll boost it though my pve is fine at resi 8
RH might live, SBS prolly ded, but depends on rosanna lines anyway
my ros is OK I need one more atk line for 40%+ but I'll aim for that if not the next CA then the following, depends on rocks
i meant enemy ross above
as that matchup you could win as long as she's non 1hitko'ing you
my ros is better than theirs, it looks OK but nothing special
that is their t3
my t3
oh looks invested, although could be trash OLs
less so than my girl
their CP isn't bad in general, not saying I win 100% but think I'm actually more confident on this set than the previous one
drake naga sbs pepper anchor:IM
jackal blanc alice trina rh
auto
treasure helm when you can
wishlist biscuit, noah, rumani, rapunzel, noise, scarlet, cinderella
finish building your pve and kraken team first regardless
thanks ill try this out
😭 @clear folio about to cook my bacon in about 12 hours
can i beat him?
i refreshed 100 times to not see anyone just behind so i might as well try
in my experience nothing is guaranteed , its not over yet goodluck! 
Any advice on how to beat?
I tried doing both scariet, trina, rh and siren, helm, jackal, and lost
Not strong enough to wipe
moran's bane is blanc
if 2 rotations RH didn't win, you'll want to think on that front
your team is on the left, scarlet needs to be 10/x/10, SR5-SR15, 30-40atk%
trina 4/7/7
RH max invest
noir budget or max invest
obviously, scarlet must be linked and you must not be in deficit*
Who takes Siren stun if there was a Siren in p1 or p2? Seems like Moran would burst and Attract, but Noah would be shooting Taunts?
Taunt > Attract, right?
Noah gets stunned
last applied taunt overrides previous taunt
Also should rh or noir be linked
e.g. the one that lands for last will have siren shooting them
scarlet and RH linked, noir is just there for atk% buff
what you looking for there is for the nuke to be lethal on biscuit, cindy and helmt
moran and noah will then have both 5s to live before you finish them off
if for w/e reason you do not after nuking, you can run indom scarlet with blanc instead of trina
Seems to me like safe bet win is to abuse Siren in p1/p2 to stun their Noah, and just blow up their team with an AoE nuke. Ez unless their Noah is too "fast" at bursting B2.
Why is noir better than helm if i may ask?
due to how their buff activates
Also in my siren run, it did stun their noah before it bursted, but didnt do enough damage
Nvm I see you already tried it
one is on after full burst, the other is on pre-full burst
scarlet nuke is not buffed by after full burst buffs
Will this actually burst before noah bursts
you're promoted to 2RL via moran
I see
enemy team is appearently 3RL, but could be 2.5RL via CS%
with this setup, the objective is to hopefully bypass moran hitting B1 in time
although if opponent is running a good chunk of cores + temperance it's gonna be interesting
should probably record it 
another option i'd try if this one fails

That one won
For some reason this guy hates me lol he keep gemming
i see, guess it was lethal enough 
Who gems in rookie
Time to move on McQueen
sweaty panties
lock in 🗣️
Pretty sure this guy doesn’t even hit anyone else
gave up or actually got A rank ?
ye there are some special nutcases
best way to deal with them is getting ur 5 wins and ignore
I womder what his beef with me is

Even in sp he will wait until I climb and then he will hit me immediately
I legit think this guy is on nikke 24/7
yep, he's trying to send a message, there are those cases 
safely ignore
I mean i do
I never attack this dude first
Usually I hit some other guys but for some reason this guy is obsessed with me
Bakushin hit hard
At the end of the day i’m making him use gems in rookie arena 😂 so thats fine
Tbh im gonna dream about it then
I wonder if I can find his discord, I have his union’s server but he has a different name i guess
Damn won CA once and then never made it back to top 8... Need to try a bit more on my teams I think instead of last minute rushing them
Would Scarlet, Liter, Trina, all 3 max invest be able to punch through Nero/Moran comp? Been running Siren instead of Liter and this is the 2nd time now where my Scarlet team is lacking dmg/ My Scarlet has 40%+ attack as well all max doll ect
you prob win the matchup tbh
can refer to this, a good example of double buff scar in CA against nero moran comp
Ok yeah I figured RH would do the trick but not sure if I want to pull her away from Emilia team in CA hmm
CA is for the most part won at team formation, once you've 3 team countered based on team order you're generally out
make strong teams, ideally on high win ratio archetypes, then just sit and let RNG do its thing
For sure but I THINK I could have won this one since it was 2-3 lose and my scarlet team just couldn't punch through nero/moran happened last CA as well something similar. Thinking Siren needs to be replaced for more dmg probably
your siren would've let you win against a noah in p1, while running without siren will make you lose against noah
on the other hand running RH allows you to clean stall teams
you take 1 risk and lose the other
yeah...
Man, the 🧱 is real with this screenshot. 😰
ok i think i finally got couple good pvp units can someone help me set up good defense? i know for low levels cp is mostly what matters but speed also matters from what i saw. I have 3 units that have much higher cp (crown, rapi:rh, mermaid) rest is mostly low
drake noir naga siren anis
rumani anchorIM rrh biscuit bsoda
auto
wishlist trina, centi, noah, rapunzel, noise, scarlet, cindy, SBS
for the sake of CP but killing speed you can replace rumani with crown
people on something strong for the vote to be that lopsided. this gonna be a close one 👀
if there were odds based rewards you'd be a fool not to take hime at 5-1 payout
Hime got this
so Im voting hime?
@umbral belfry lock in
all correct so far btw, history shall not repent itselef 
go with / against yourself

Round 2 is a coinflip at the moment, whether I survive Scarlet or not.
Any ideas how to make it not be like that? 🤔
run this instead of noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
if your helmT is too fragile and doesn't run temperance you can use rapunzel instead of noise
Speaking of which, I’m struggling on deciding who would win for my cheer between a double res nero moran team and a double buff (with RH) Scar comp (jackalless). The moran team is very well invested (over 130k CP on all units and Moran+Nero are over 146k CP), but doesn’t quite reach 2.5 RL (faster than 3 though). The double buff 2RL scarlet team has a weak scarlet (95k CP, and she has an SR15 doll so she doesn’t even have full OL) , but is boosted by RH and Ele. Would either Helm or Mana be able to survive the nuke to bring home the victory?
@glad glade
revive will be wasted on nero, the only one surviving maybe is moran, but then you need to check cores and investiment
Hmmm, i messed around with deck a bit, and the site says its possible to bring that stall team up to 2.5 if you have good CS on both Rapu and Helm. I’ll check for the general cores as well, one moment please
assuming scarlet is 10/x/10, trina is at least 4/7/7, RH is on max invest, damage should be lethal
at least from what we've seen on non max core units
Thoughts?
why are you using bay against a DPS indom 
What the hell, now I lost round 3...
Did I crit last time or what...
@glad glade this actually answers your question, is investiment dependant
I could run centi or trina
Coinflip arena
post full opponent matchup, the scarlet indom requires p1 taunt + biscuit or a rosanna
Here are their investments. It seems like Helm has the highest core, so the logical conslusion would be that the Scar team utterly nukes correct?
oh wow
that's actually pretty high core count on moran and nero
iirc mana can revive even when lethal dmg is applied, so she might revive helmT
and you might look at nero and moran being alive post nuke
try asking for other opinions but it might not be lethal based on that invest
Gotchu, thank you!
wth... 225 synchro and the dude already has nero moran built 
you've some curious opponents in ur bracket
That i do
Its a miracle I can stay in challenger
I can take c7 pretty easy but that feels like a waste of an attempt
i'll take this as reference to one of your recent boxes
#pvp-arena message
I have maiden now, that's all thats changed
Oh the number 1 on my bracket is tryharding
Im fairly certain they're tracking online time
Yo enriched are these teams still good to go?
ye they're good
ty king
how's your jackal, RRH and RH max HP
as it's time to start using your indom
Yay I get to dust off the c5 blanc
Also why is their progress so low, they're sync 250
some ppl don't mald in pve
a bit of deficit and they stop

ok so your indom is not fully usable yet
as jackal will be indommed everytime due to less max HP
Yeah, I have no rocks for any of my pvp units
once you've jackal on 4OL you can run proper indom
this will do for now
You've got siren on there twice
ensure T3 CP is above 177k before running
ye whichever team needs CP replace siren with RH
it's a flex unit
Siren happens to have higher cp than rh lmao
use her in the team that needs it more 
@lunar pawn that moment when u want to try something in rookie arena and u forget that rookie arena ends today? :v
wait this guy is trolling?
Not enough cp
viper stage 2, you're using stage 3 in the calculator
stage 3 she reenters b2?
it ended? 
ok we gonna need to raise that team CP
I sea
post ur updated box to today
it's still beatable just need to mess with CP arrangements
Yeah im very held back by rocks rn, every pvp unit has between 2 and 4 manu pieces
p sure i lose but it'll be close 
Also sopa long time no see
yeh, we can't test today
oh cubes?

it'll be close but i think I lose bc investments but it will be very close for t2 and t5
cp
hes a fat whale

I am but a whale in training
Honestly I think Cup is F2P


f2ppie
Seems like just a solid player who grinds
he is NOT f2p 
I'm F2P and have a few c7s Hime can vouche
are they pilgrims 
After manchor everyone is under 30k btw
Well one is 2B
Just long enough with enough luck. 
can confirm that ura is f2p
thats a 2% banner, I can do that too
#soon
Sopa how many c7 do you have
Isbel max core 
My siren only c5
C7 is not common, only 1
Lame
Imagine not having 2
lil whale
all I need max core are helm, alice and 
Honestly I mostly spend on bad decisions like gatcha skins and bad colab characters 😅
smh whales these days 
Ik, my account is so loaded
Thats why im 30 sync lower than my opponents in sp arena
just got rh today, Im just happy 
Wait until reshuffle, that gap will be 90 
of course not, busy investing Liter for MC 
Nah its only like 7 people higher sync than me
You have rh, you can b1 slave
She can also break slipper with decent attack
gg, pilgrim mold and got R units
Team one looks like it'll be very low cp, ill check it out tho
I wish blabla was more intuitive cuz it shows invests
@sleek imp but yeah to answer you before I
again, i see myself winning t3 but losing t1 and most likely t4. t2 and t5 will be close due to cp being close enough. t2 is a weird one because my moran is 7/7/9 vs his 7/7/10, with my helm attacking his lap and his helm attacking my moran. maybe that'll make a difference? not sure
t5 I'm faster but less tankier. however his bisc and pepper has no OL and my noise vs 7/7/10 vs his 4/4/7. so I'm honestly not sure. but tbh i see myself still losing 🥧
that's fine swap naga with jackal
I honestly can't say one has a hugeee lead over another, but I should lose due to lower investment
i need to get the f2p tag don and keripo have. otherwise no one will know
@gritty ridge if cinderella is not invested let RH be your B3 and B1 and use whatever flex you want in her stead
despite the cp gap, Im voting you 
Cindy is low invest yeah, ill toss in a higher cp unit
I pray I don't mess up your cheer frame again but 
Oh its coming home tmr dw 

Could I rrh b3?
I can't pick between my friends so I'm not voting 🎉 you both winners as far as I'm concerned

We still need to fill the top 8 with pie

at the end of the day, pie wins
Cuz if I run this it has decent cp
u can use RRH as flex
noah biscuit rh rrh naga
Ah ok
you want to overpower moran and nero, you need strong 1 target hitters
RRH will do well AoE but it will be reduced hard by DR stack on moran and nero
I see, and rrh is more of an initial nuke
Good afternoon 
it's 12:25AM here 


Wish me luck

could someone please please suggest me def teams for sp arena?
I just need to defend once against a single guy to break a stupid loop of 7-5-2-5-7
this is what I'm using atm
wait im confused, how would rapi and rh work in pvp if they are on the same team without a B1?
Do Rapi automatically drop to B1 before rh?
naga centi cind helmt noise
scarlet blacn rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit sbs siren noir
run quantum on noir
rest use recommended cubes
Put Helm on second placement 
Ig I sit at c8 til tmr
Stop with your suicide 2 RL Cindy 
well looks like opponent is not sitting on 4RL but slightly faster
you gonna need a flex unit faster than RRH, a clip SG would solve it
Yes
RH will never count
3.8 or something, probably has some cs on helm
yep seems like 
originally that team was supposed to be 3RL but CP kinda tied our hands
once you find the way to fit a tad more burst gen in there you should be fine
Yeah, cindy will be invested when I get rocks to ol her
it's not even 2RL
dammnit
Yeah its sad


how does this look for a new SPA team?

scratch last team and make it CP pad
T1 and T2 can do
T1/T2 all cp pad units 

Can't you run blanc scar?
CP diff 
I'd say thats better for defender
whels spotted
sometime indom saves lives
this guy stuck on MC w me when he has 112k more cp than me 
Slacker 
Yeah thats what I was thinking, cant really precook attacker cuz its situational
you say cp diff?
leviathan spotted
leviathan? more like mother of all credit cards
someone gotta pay the servers i guess
not false

Wait, is that a content creator 
How old is your account?
started in may 2024
Would it be worth it to attack c7 and snipe 4?
depends for how long you can hold that position imo
no big whales in your bracket yet, pray that you dont get one after reshuffle 
Not very
C8 Ill probably hold til reset tho
i'd say find your comfort zone (one you can defend from), then you can get greedy and poke at higher ranks
CP wise up to ch3 seem within your reach
C3 is a no go
ch4 enough to hit CA instead
2 280k teams
oof
Yeah

🐳
Thats more than my main campagin team 1 week ago wt
Oh yeah they're in my rookie arena
how is your new bracket this stack 
How
There's no deficit, I burst faster, I dont understand
always check team speeds here first:
if you're on same speed and not faster than enemy noah, your nuke will be denied
in this case it looks like you were either in deficit or very bad invest
2RL vs 3RL but they stomped you
multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and see if you were above
Overloads 
There's no need for calc
Overload harder 
Where can I put siren to stun the 💢💢
Switch placement with centi
tell him about noise and noah taunt priority tho
defender p1 has longer travel time than p5 I think? Since their p5 is right above your p1, so their Noise lands after Noah
Is this still up-to-date?
assuming no cs
yep it has also siren variants
Noise still pulled taunt

Thank you.
caught
nice job 
yeah because defender p1 is on the right and your p1 is on the left, so Noah is closer to your p1 and will land rocket first then Noise lands
No one has fast Noah 

If Noah is faster than Noise then siren will keep targeting Noise
go to friends and search for player ID with theirs
you can see their last login time
if it's low, maybe they won't login again for long
if it's high, they might login again soon
you spent your 2 attacks already so if you get knocked down you can end up diamond tomorrow 
I bought 3


Bad idea, but I wanted that number 4 spot
if you learned a bit more about pvp and your own teams, maybe it was a good investiment for the time being 
Nah i still dont know how his team beat me
Should I buy another one and look at teams
maybe their Noah has a billion ele dmg and killed your Centi before you can B2 
and now your Centi is in safe spot
unlucky 
noah immuned u i think
I even swapped out bay cuz I know she wouldn't help with alice burst
And then I swapped out cindy
And then noise
Whats the fastest possible team btw
?
I usually just skip noah team w my cp pad ones
yeah mermaaid stuns
you want to do stall team? 
Jackal
you are not healing w HelmT against noah 
Helm b3 is a solo nuke
rng
thats not her purpose for on burstif I remembered correctly
Which unit would taunt rosanna/siren, noise or noah? My noise has higher cs
No she snipes highest attack unit
taunt works on override logic
as such, the unit last to apply taunt, will be taunt priority
if your noise is faster than your noah, it means noah applies taunt for last, then it's a noah taunt priority team
Rail youre here, what do we use helm b3 for
Would noise, noah, cindy, thelm, centi be better than noise, noah, cindy, thelm, emilia then?
for stall or for killing Jackal link 
for the most part this scenario (sustain via lifesteal)
else just for sniping high atk% units before they can do anything
as her dmg can overflow (as in her nuke is way more than max hp of a unit), she can also nuke linked nikke (jackal or bay links)
She can nuke my bay team
since those units would distribute damage that would generally instead be lost
in bay case depends, if she bursts at same time, she'll absorb the nuke
if she has already bursted and her cover is down, she'll distribute
Btw if you need to speed match bay, is she worse on defense than attack?
I originally made my team 2 as a counter to rosanna, where she would target helm and emi since they are attackers, and not kill noah, but i realized that was useless since if noah hits rosanna she taunts anyway so no point
2RL bay will reliably either catch nuke or at least ensure you've damage reduction on
3RL bay can be bypassed by 2RL teams, like here
Ah ok
keep in mind bay cannot do well against multi hitting nukes instead, like cinderella or emilia
although she can mitigate the dmg via the damage reduction she applies
Yeah, bay is for scar or helm and the like
yep pretty much
Thats why I swapped her out against the alice team
rosanna aswell is a good example, as you can also catch that nuke
She works against t.drake?
you mean her burst?
Yeah
if it's a single hit burst and bay cover is up sure will
else it will get distributed to the party
OK so what are my options against Noah? Is it just siren and soda?
to deal with noah you either have to cast a delayed nuke (emilia) or kill/disable her before she can cast (siren or faster teams, when possible)
sometimes it's also just easier skipping that team and focusing on the other 2
So Noah is just that problematic
up to today she remains the only unit that can apply invulnerable to whole team
she's also good at burst gen, is a defender unit (combo with biscuit) and has taunt
So shes crown for pvp
Rookie at least its easier to counter cuz you dont have to worry about splitting apart teams
Challenger must be unfortunate
You dont even get to pick
SParena actually is very simple but you need to have the pvp core units
once you do, it becomes rock paper scissor
scarlet? run noah
noah? run siren
indom? run sustain/stall
sustain/stall? run nuke/rosanna
Yeah, I cant wait til I get to invest pvp lmao
Would xmaiden also have worked instead of noir
you lose out on the passive atk%, as xmaiden applies after full burst
Ugh why am i blind when reading these skills then when i read it again i get it
in your defense, nikke skill details are explained sometimes very bad
I think they should make grave burst gen work before burst👉👈
Do u have any suggestions for improving my current sp def?

the most tedious teams atm on def to deal against involve scar-siren, noah non in p1 and whatever is left to hit 2.5RL (stall or indom)
Who is jackal linked with on team 1?
This what i have now
Scarlet siren
If ur talking to me lol

I am
aim for these i'd say
Would yall say Noah is more front or rear skewed placement wise
T1 offers scarlet safe from enemy sirens, while having your own siren stunning any taunters (e.g. noah) or stunning p1
T2 generic 2RL with DR, anti nuke and nuke on its own
T3 2.5RL emi indom
the alternative would be making a 2.5RL nero moran team and tweaking around whatever is left to form another 2RL or 2.5RL
Would u recommend me leveling up blanc’s burst to 10? I have her at 7 rn
extra debuff and buff, so it would be worth it
What about emi, i have her at 10 7 10 but idk if skill 2 is worth to 10
for that one you can refer to prydwen
it has updated recommended invest for pvp
So do u think for team 2 i should aim to get a higher charge speed on noah instead of noise?
for preventing noah taunt priority you only need iirc around 5-6%
So if they use a siren to stun, noah still bursts
slower indom generally wins
3.5RL vs 3RL would make SBS come out of indom later than emi would
alright, will cheer on the assumption attacker loses 
ask for more opinions regardless then try to average it out
3 or 4 ppl saying the same thing should increase the odds
think most people agreed with the first 4 calls
should be set then
last fight was mostly inclined towards defender
hope so, pls unlucky frame this season 
Could sr anis replace xmaiden here?
can, although it will cost you CP
Here's the results of the final round of S7 Promotion Tournament matches with my new experimental teams. Cindy lost a speed match against Scarlet, otherwise the other new teams seem to be doing fine.
- S7 Teams: https://youtu.be/ByZ_cvH3T7M
- S7 League: https://youtu.be/9Lrq6Gpf9Xs
- S7 Top 64: https://youtu.be/HqpPX4JT2Kk
- S7 Top 32: https://...
Time to watch
🍿

Bottom win
mm differing opinions throughout the chat I see
Does Keripo easily win his current matchup? 
He’s my cheer, I auto-cheered him, but on the off chance he will lose.. let me know 
got the matchups?


also I might be younger then I think.
5 hr sleep total in 2day and still reasonably functional
wanna ask how blanc's unkillable thing works, it say nikke with lowest hp, does that mean it would target Scarlet with 3 mill health at max hp vs a tank at 3.5mill hp out of 4 mill max hp?
yes
Funny things happens when you try to Indom Moran for example
@covert lintel i saw you attack a 621 boi
i'll explain with an example:
sbs helmt blanc flex jackal
^ sbs helmt and jackal are linked, they will share the damage taken
sbs has the lowest max HP from the start compared to helmT and jackal (helmT has vigor to ensure she does, jackal has higher hp due to class defender)
as such, blanc will pick SBS for sure
on this example, instead, p1 blanc used with rapunzel and p2 exposed to splash will lead to p2 having lowest hp and be picked for indom
if blanc dies she'll be revived with still lower HP than the healed p2 target (although blanc cannot cast indom on herself anyway)
the logic is always: ensure your lowest HP target when blanc casts is your indom target, the following are the most common to achieve that
-jackal method
-revive method
-biscuit + blanc method
Sometimes Jackal messed with low hp
If your DPS has higher doll, it can lead to misindom due to dmg spread reduction
I finally made it to top 8, though after reviewing other player, it seems it'll be hard to win this CA
That's not a good start
Yeah, i got his seat for 1 day
waos, did you record it?
Alice video yesterday
oh
in another server...a boi said: waos, rakuen attacked astharot or somehing like that
Who
CHEATER 

Ooh Exodia
Is Sora worth pulling for PVP?
no
No, too specific and also unnecessary advantage. So far she’s used to dispel Siren’s at-combat-start debuff and doing so prevents her from stunning anyone. Sora also can heal team when she bursts, but that’s hardly unique
But team Scarlet can also just reposition characters to avoid Siren stun
Useless on defense in SPA (the “team” gets countered), useless on attack in SPA (you have other ways to counter anyway)
Useless on defense/attack in Rookie for the same reasons.
Not a surefire victory condition in CA, you might not even end up fighting Siren or might not even actually win when you bring Sora against a Siren.
So Sora’s just waiting to counter some future pvp unit that doesn’t exist yet.
Keripo does use her though. Mainly so he can just stick Scarlet in p1.
Moil top am I winning?
From your pov, imo as an unreliable cheer analyst:
R1: L
R2: W / coin flip
R3: W / assumes very strong Nero & Moran & Rapunzel
R4: L
R5: W / but can you kill Cindy with the Scarlet AoE?
I can check real quick
nvm can't test cuz my rookie rank 1 cindy team is 2.5 RL
Rapunzel ain't stronk yet
She at least has OL 0
Well, I guess get second opinions
Close.
Sora offers 2 things:
- A very high heal (~70% of her max HP), which will very likely top off your entire team
- Cleanse your entire team of 1 debuff (the first applied)
For 1, this is very useful in a Jackal-Blanc setup as you can almost guarantee which unit the Blanc invuln will land on. Rapunzel helps do this as well but she only heals for 40% HP compared to Sora's 70% HP (52% x 135% due to her S1).
For 2, this is a Siren counter. The first debuff that applies to your P1 would almost always be the Siren bubble effect. Removing that during the B1 timing (assuming you B1 before their Siren stun effect timing) will thus prevent the stun. The normal counter to Siren is simply don't put your key unit in P1, but Sora allows you to ignore this restriction completely. This let's you put Scarlet in P1 which can help against Rosanna SG comps who die to Scarlet's counter even when Rosanna removes the Jackal chain (previously I had Rapunzel in P1 and removing the Jackal chain from Rapunzel meant no more Scarlet counterattack).
But overall, Sora is a very very niche PvP unit whose only real value is replacing Rapunzel in my Blanc-Scarlet-Jackal comp. I would not recommend people invest into her as she is not a general purpose unit.
Oh, so that’s actually rather nice then
Can use Sora in Blanc team while Blanc’s in p1
Or can use Sora in Scarlet Jackal team while Scarlet’s in p1
A Sora a day keeps the Mermaid away? 
The benefit overall is minimal. My main motivation was freeing up Rapunzel for use in the Moran-Nero-Helm comp, but after some testing I think I prefer the Mana variant for that comp anyways so the free up was unnecessary
Mana variant as in Nero, Moran, Helm, Mana, Biscuit?
Oh, I see. With Mana you can move Moran. This can cover p1 and p5 
Nero, Biscuit, Helm, Mana, Moran
I assume 18% Helm and Biscuit lets this successfully burst Moran before B3s, and Mana will resurrect Biscuit or Helm if necessary. Can even swap Helm and Biscuit if want Helm to take collateral damage instead of Biscuit
Yup. Imo this is the better comp, but requires higher investment into a less used unit
is Drake treasure a clip SG?
Debuff immunity? 
My Scarlet already can ignore stun
Base Drake already is
this fine for staying in diamond 1-3 right? Trying to lessen the amount of nikke I need to build
is Nero a good investment just for SP Arena?
what Nikkes do i need for a good SG team in SP Arena?
imo no
Siren mess up Nero Biscuit tho as it would burst to Biscuit instead of Nero 
no
tbh in nero moran comp I feel like it's better to be stuck at b2 for a few seconds than have the wrong b2 burst
changed some since I have some investments on blanc rh and emilia already. idk what the books mean tho kek I just copied whatever in the pinned are
I mean, Rapunzel vs Mana isn't gonna change that
I dont think so. Delaying that self-heal from Helm will 100% be fatal
Nero burst isnt critical. Moran and Helm burst is
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Yeah thats not critical. She just adds a second taunt ontop of Moran's
I have the same opinion as Eon, Nero not bursting makes it susceptible to SAnis, no miaows so HelmT burst isn't helping her either
succeptable to SAnis vs dead to every other comp
3s of full burst auto attack damage from the enemy team is going to tear your team apart in CA
Nah
unless they're all single target units hitting Moran
As long its not Blanc, nah
so many times my Emilia team wipes out the enemy team before Emilia even lands her burst
oof that's a lot more investment needed
just the raw power of a RH buffed, full burst buffed Laplace+ AoEing while protected by Noah
?? How this related to Nero team?
yeah can't copy that lol quantum cube equips already shows won't be possible
Just adjust position, your comps can easily get beat with Siren stun
I remember seeing this comp pop up a bit ago, is it still any good or nah
Because my Emilia team would wreck a Nero Moran team that only bursted with Moran and is waiting 3s for Nero to burst
Nah, I mean I survived even on a 40 sync gapped in SP iirc
your emilia team is using siren tho?
Coz Moran bursting is enough to tank it
A lot of properly invested teams would tear Moran apart just from auto-attacks
In SP Arena, yes. In 400-synchro locked CA arena, no
Moreso in CA
Remember, in CA, everything is infinitely squishier.
Mmh, I still don't think its enough to kill
Ive also seen my SG teams tear through a non-Biscuit-protected Moran. But maybe this is all just me running fully maxed out invested units
Yeah, Moran only need to burst, Nero is already 100%
Why we talking about Moran though?
Moran is always safe
Cause Moran bursts, she taunts
In Nero team 
If she bursts then she can die right?
If she does not burst then no taunt
You only need Moran to burst then what happens to her is don't care as long its not against an SAnis team
Moran bursts, Nero stunned, Moran melts to enemy team who just AoE nuked and is autoattacking down Moran very fast, then switches target back to a low HP Nero (who got hit by the AoE) and wipes her out as well cause no Biscuit protection
how is Nero at 100%?
Okay 95% assuming its Siren
or do you mean damage reduction 100%
101?
hmm, so your proposal is something like:
Nero Moran Rapunzel Helm Mana?
Im not sure who you want to use as your last slot
Only need HelmT third shot Moran already bursts
And Laplace+ has better damage off burst damage
Laplace would also die from SGs and instant-lose
Moran in P5 is the reason I prefer the Mana variant
Nero Biscuit Helm Mana Moran
Nah, its still better, since Laplace+ is tanky enough, and she can die to if its just against SG
My P5 Centi dies against SGs, not sure how Laplace+ will survive
the moment she dies though SG team kicks off their Rosanna and burst chain, ded Helm
yes, Centi with Tempering, SR5 doll though, need to SR15 later
I think its fine, regardless for that to happen
You encounter unluckily SG, unluckily its defending SG
And even if you do, Nero can solo it herself imo
Im just not convinced removing Biscuit to force a delayed Nero burst makes the most sense
That but more like Biscuit is better on other places than Nero
ok, from that standpoint, I agree, yes
that was my main argument against Nero Moran Biscuit comps
You just placed Biscuit coz of hypothetical SG hitting your Backline
it just so happens that in my current cook, Biscuit is no longer used anywhere else because the Moran Nero Helm team is replacing the Moran Biscuit SAnis team lol
if we had more units, Id love to split Biscuit off to build a 5th team to replace the SG team
come join the slow Cindy camp 
tf happened there lol
Scarlet didnt even burst?
Yeah, already died together with Trina before B2 is clicked 
Wth?
this whole fight makes no sense lmao. Looks like all of the Scarlet damage went to Mihara? 
Kinda amazing how Nikke as a game helped me with calculations more than College lol XD
She died many times over in the span of that lag 
First time I saw that kind of fight XD so weird
definitely some buggy interaction with mihara, cindy p1 spotted as well
anyone tried that team to see if it's reproducible?
XD hard to find that Lazyrem's weird comp
I mean could be run on attack instead of waiting to see it on def
the mihara/scarlet interaction there seems bugged, presumably this also feeds into the jackal link causing the lag and death lol
That was the second time it happened to me, this was the first
#pvp-arena message
so it's your team in the recording?
Yeah, my IGN is there right 
didn't know that it was yours 😛
why are you putting cindy p1 btw? presume there is a reason
To make enemy Noah's quicker
damn what is this voodoo lol
Well its more of a meme team that if you kill the team in one go I lose, but if you let me reach my Cindy burst, I will surely win 
Very bad, not even 20% on both
She is just built skill wise 
Well at least her non DoT part
Idk what happened then. My only theory is that when your Mihara died, she RNG stacked all of her on-death chains onto Siren. Siren is Wind, so is Fire-weak. Hence, Mihara would do especially significantly more damage than you’d expect. Siren was linked. So the whole link ate a bomb courtesy of Mihara
My guess is chains were distributing when Scarlet died. So I’m guessing again, if a character dies like that the chains thrown to the victim gets re-distributed. So XAnne got the chains that were on Scarlet and she was far weaker to begin with, perhaps?
Just a wild guess sadly
Though if I would go to theory, I will think something like, it happens if Mihara dies exactly when the DoT ticks happen
NVM, took this screenshot at the right moment
Like some magic happens if they alligned and make it like Mihara DoT ticks like a nuke
Perfect screenshot shows XAnne dying before Scarlet 
maybe all that lag/stuttering has something to do with this
Spaghetti code got confused with the loops, gave all the atk buff to Mihara 
Imagine dealing 15M in an instant by just dying 
the true essence of mihara sac
It definitely seem fishy that the game stutters at the exact frame mihara die, there must be some funky thing going on in the calculation
Then it result in this big dmg
I think it's essentially trying to calculate too much stuff in real time and that leads to the lag and then the boom :p
if both teams had jackal links it may go even crazier
Don't report this, let's use Mihara next CA 
I wonder if cindy p1 makes it more likely to bug out due to it having more to calculate (each shot would need to check for p1 skip)
ok ok hold on does this apply to spa
funny you say this because i think the ticks happen during the lag faster than it should normally
in fact in theory if the spaghetti code actually is screwed up the moment mihara dies which causes her DoT to pops off crazy
this is a weird quirk but it also needs to be tested in various environments
checking again just to make sure, everyone thinks bottom (attacker) loses then? #pvp-arena message 
I'm not super pvp heavy, but whats a good generalist 1v1 and 3v3 pvp team?
I have other nikke outside of this ss as well if there is one super recommended
So only me think bottom will win
thought so too but people grinded me to go for defender win
so hoping for the best now 
This Union raid made me look closely into Eve kits...
Her idea investment for Arena would be probably
Skill: 10x10 (s2 as high as possible while still the 3rd highest ATK to evade Rossanna)
Gear: 25% in 4 x Crit line this is non negotiable, ATK 0% to evade Rossanna, Crit dmg x4, 1-2Ammo line. 2-3 Ele.
Since she won't link, the only way to use her with Blanc is through Mana or Rapu revive. Mana could help bait Rossanna but you lose the revival in this case.
you can run these 2 for SParena on a very generic approach
as for rookie, you can run this one
highly suggest you build helm treasure and build/wishlist rumani, trina and noise
I believe i have rumani, trina and noise thx for the guide
the blanc in T1 is dependant on whether you want indom scarlet or just nuke scarlet
helm treasure working on that now
since you can't use blanc in both, once you've trina replace blanc in T1 with her, or for the time being use grave instead
I rather switch Emilia with Drake so Summer Anis can actually burst
help
3 minutes till result
And, according to blood, you can't change bet already
Not having 2nd full burst is also fatal against many comp 
Union raid ?
You mean solo raid?
oh nvm
Yeah, solo raid
I haven't done it
need to mald
Me too
I'm gonna do whatever dmg i got then sleep
I think I could get 10b+ 5% this time but I won't bother. 9.2b enough. 
It's either 3% or 10% anyway
How to deal 5b with Rapi team....

Get Rapi 100% ele
100% ED stat
No Eve
I'm not bricking for iron raid
what you using, Helm XLud? Helm RH?
RH Helm on grave team
My Eve is 2 OL 1075 and mast 775 1 OL. 3.5b is the best I could do. 
who is your other B3 then 
wtf. i guessed wrong 4 games and still won
Laplace treasure 
Happens to me
I am still full investing moran nero, so can't solo raid
LapT Naga? 
I'm using Tia Naga on SG team

How was it ? @lunar pawn
my time for sleep has come 
unless you just going MMast 5th anyway
Mast

Maybe I could max burst....
@raven plover Rematch time
Then again I could do the same for Maxwell
She got confirmed for buff

And keep getting his as kicked then

But I don't want to learn how to one shot every part at the same time on last day so I rather don't
Did the left dud change his team order at least this season?
top 4 
lock in hippo 🗣️
it's your champion run
get your revenge for being screwed in league 2x 
this matches the highest I've been so far
No, abandoned

Hobo made team specially for this
Free win then. Lucky him. 
I need to analyse my next matches a bit later
unfortunately my journey ended today 
If he still lost this time he should quit Arena and go back to the slum.


sorry to hear Hime, lock out 
Defeat those Rupees 
I cant 
You just did 
it was meant to be, today is my moving day 
focus on realty 
nah man Im just throwing random stuff like emma

my emma win rate so bad
surely treasure next
Sugar emma
No excuse, off to the slum you go if you lost against a guy who didn't change or shuffle his teams for 3 season. 
truly washed core diff fr
no excuse 
if I win tho that would be epic, no biscuit 
wait viper 30% atk 
I find Love and deep space make such cool male Characters background... Why can't other games with male characters made theirs like that...
First guy: Typical lone wolf mysterious hunter...
2nd guy: Doctor with secret power that attracts monsters
3rd guy: cute painter at day, but an assassin at night.
4th guy: A emo deity dragon in human form.
5th guy: the childhood friend that turned half machine after an accident and risen up in the army.

blood invested into LADS 
For now. Until I farm enough for current banner and uninstall it for other games. 
Have you looked at the new wedding card? Each card is basically a L2D cut scene lol
who is your fav husbando to marry then? 😄
say sylus
real men marry all 5 and the FMC 
I'm trying to get the 5th guy. The half machine childhood friend. Because dude is the most similar to the ml of the manga I copied my fMC looks and name from.
acceptable answer 
Already got the doctor card so I would show it to you later then.
if Hime says so then I accept it
no pls don't hes my least favorite LMAO
Who is your favorite then?
Okay I would screen record that card then... 
watching it on the plane

@covert lintel @oblique ridge @tropic summit
and the faster indom won 💀
I gotta start trusting my instinct more often
@umbral belfry @tropic summit It worked!! Everyone on the stall team held out and survived the meganuke! (I’m aiming for loser’s frame)
Thank you!!
There you won't need to reinstall
we did it chat
again
I owe you my life
will watch once I finish packing
You could get the Dress and the ring after you get the character card. Each character card has a different wedding dress and ring for FMC.
won't go for the unlucky frame anymore so soon, I'll vote randomly for the first 3 cheers, if I lose all 3, then I'll go for it, else waste of time
whoa kiss scene 
You probably could check the card story if you searched youtube. I don't own that card so couldnt record that storyline, but it's about 15 minutes long so I still won't do that. 
Beginner luck again. Getting double in 1% banner when I rarely get double (less than 5 times) in thousands of my pulls in Nikke 4% 
my highest in nikke is 3 x in a 10 pull which I've had a few times
single or nothing mostly though lol
I could only get that one time in my entire time in Nikke.
I've had streaks of like 100 with nothing though as well 😛
I'd love to see my actual results but SU hide it
Would it be alright if you send me the footage of that battle please? I’m facing a situation where the decisive battle will be a 3 RL SBS indom+jack vs 3.5 RL Rei T indom+jack, but it might actually be 2 RL SBS vs 3 RL Rei because the Rei team has 2 ARs that would feed SBS’s Jackal
it's over I'm sorry 
T1 L
T2 L
T3 ? will depend on both investments
T4 L
T5 W
2rl scar vs 3rl sbs, sgs into blanc protected bisc, sgs will destroy anis

I'm thinking about building Mana for that 2.5 RL team and replace anis with Laplace
pray for t3 but i have my doubts
it's 3rl vs 3rl bc no deaths on bottom side, but rosa is b1
emi is likely dead and possibly rh
hmmmm
any leak?
nero sr15 10/9/7
moran sr15 7/7/10
helmt 10/10/10
rapu sr15 7/4/7
lapt 4/10/7
should hold for our baby bracket at 2.5
I see
eventually I wanna get rapu skills up but that'll take time
I'm at 10/8/7 for Rapunzel
the dream 
I think 10/9/7

Imma get her to 10/10
maybe wait and see how summer units are first
and 21% cs for next CA
it goes by points not your rankint
so you have to maintain point ranking 4
Ive been in challenger the entire time so im top 10 in points
pray you're top4 in points 
top 10 in points is not top 4 in points 
Yeah but being top 4 for long enough could put me there 👉👈
you'd need to hold rank 2 or 1 to make up for the point loss for being below top 4 for half the season
RIP
R1 L
R2 L
R3 ?
R4 WR4 L
R5 W
For some reason I’m having trouble retaining information, I kept forgetting I noted he lost both R1 and R2 
It might be the flip flop of which side is which
Lose first two rounds, win final two rounds, coin flip r3
Ill need yall to help me get the gamba frame on my alt next season
Its bunny themed so I need gamba frame
@shell hazel cheering TAV
you took your chance 
learn the pattern and apply it for the next prediction, you won't be fooled again
I’m curious to see how that happened too. Did BScarlet run out of ammo? Or did she leave up Blanc and Jackal, then die to them after killing Emilia? Etc
there was another variable, blanc + biscuit might've denied damage enough
also depend on SBS invest
and ofc reload timings
diddypvp
Hello everyone
, can I get some help with predictions 
well in your defense i've only 2 uma on A rank
rest are B+ 
and this after 151hours
if you use 💳 it's easy to get A rank
Im using it
then i'm concerned 

IT IS



also my t5 is 2.5











