#pvp-arena

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shell hazel
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I won t5 due to scarlet being stunned AndersonLaugh

tropic summit
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lmao

shell hazel
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I lost t4 due to invested stall comp

tropic summit
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because of the ammo refil from siren

shell hazel
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but this time t4 is kind of meh I'll be surprised if I lose, so even if t4 wins and t5 loses think it's still 3-2 to me

tropic summit
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uh let's see

shell hazel
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I can provide opponent CP if it helps 🙂

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t3 I'm pretty confident on they're sending SG's into biscuit locked def

tropic summit
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bah this one would be surprising if you lost

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think you looking at 3-2 or 4-1 for you

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on the offchane rosanna does crit on both SBS and RH then just bad RNG

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you running temperance on them?

shell hazel
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thanks Rail appreciated

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I don't have many temp cubes will add some more if I can next UR

young sphinx
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Im having trouble making arena and sp arena teams. any ideas?

shell hazel
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temp on nero + moran at least

tropic summit
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hmm ok

shell hazel
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mine is low level, I'll boost it though my pve is fine at resi 8

tropic summit
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RH might live, SBS prolly ded, but depends on rosanna lines anyway

shell hazel
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my ros is OK I need one more atk line for 40%+ but I'll aim for that if not the next CA then the following, depends on rocks

tropic summit
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as that matchup you could win as long as she's non 1hitko'ing you

shell hazel
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my ros is better than theirs, it looks OK but nothing special

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that is their t3

tropic summit
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oh looks invested, although could be trash OLs

shell hazel
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less so than my girl

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their CP isn't bad in general, not saying I win 100% but think I'm actually more confident on this set than the previous one

tropic summit
short moon
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😭 @clear folio about to cook my bacon in about 12 hours

scarlet adder
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can i beat him?

tropic summit
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28% deficit is a bit steep

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might win but not too sure

scarlet adder
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i refreshed 100 times to not see anyone just behind so i might as well try

clear folio
spare nimbus
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Any advice on how to beat?

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I tried doing both scariet, trina, rh and siren, helm, jackal, and lost

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Not strong enough to wipe

tropic summit
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moran's bane is blanc

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if 2 rotations RH didn't win, you'll want to think on that front

tropic summit
# spare nimbus Any advice on how to beat?

your team is on the left, scarlet needs to be 10/x/10, SR5-SR15, 30-40atk%
trina 4/7/7
RH max invest
noir budget or max invest

obviously, scarlet must be linked and you must not be in deficit*

oblique ridge
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Taunt > Attract, right?

spare nimbus
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Noah gets stunned

tropic summit
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last applied taunt overrides previous taunt

spare nimbus
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Also should rh or noir be linked

tropic summit
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e.g. the one that lands for last will have siren shooting them

tropic summit
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what you looking for there is for the nuke to be lethal on biscuit, cindy and helmt

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moran and noah will then have both 5s to live before you finish them off

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if for w/e reason you do not after nuking, you can run indom scarlet with blanc instead of trina

oblique ridge
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Seems to me like safe bet win is to abuse Siren in p1/p2 to stun their Noah, and just blow up their team with an AoE nuke. Ez unless their Noah is too "fast" at bursting B2.

spare nimbus
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Why is noir better than helm if i may ask?

tropic summit
spare nimbus
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Also in my siren run, it did stun their noah before it bursted, but didnt do enough damage

oblique ridge
tropic summit
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one is on after full burst, the other is on pre-full burst

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scarlet nuke is not buffed by after full burst buffs

spare nimbus
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Will this actually burst before noah bursts

tropic summit
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you're promoted to 2RL via moran

spare nimbus
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I see

tropic summit
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enemy team is appearently 3RL, but could be 2.5RL via CS%

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with this setup, the objective is to hopefully bypass moran hitting B1 in time

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although if opponent is running a good chunk of cores + temperance it's gonna be interesting

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should probably record it thumbsup

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another option i'd try if this one fails

strong hull
spare nimbus
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That one won

tropic summit
spare nimbus
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For some reason this guy hates me lol he keep gemming

tropic summit
spare nimbus
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Who gems in rookie

strong hull
tropic summit
spare nimbus
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Pretty sure this guy doesn’t even hit anyone else

tropic summit
tropic summit
tropic summit
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best way to deal with them is getting ur 5 wins and ignore

spare nimbus
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I womder what his beef with me is

tropic summit
tropic summit
spare nimbus
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Even in sp he will wait until I climb and then he will hit me immediately

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I legit think this guy is on nikke 24/7

tropic summit
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safely ignore

spare nimbus
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I mean i do

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I never attack this dude first

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Usually I hit some other guys but for some reason this guy is obsessed with me

strong hull
spare nimbus
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At the end of the day i’m making him use gems in rookie arena 😂 so thats fine

strong hull
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Tbh im gonna dream about it then

spare nimbus
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I wonder if I can find his discord, I have his union’s server but he has a different name i guess

restive willow
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Welp, I'm matched against Eon in CA

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Time to die at top 8

wild hemlock
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Damn won CA once and then never made it back to top 8... Need to try a bit more on my teams I think instead of last minute rushing them

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Would Scarlet, Liter, Trina, all 3 max invest be able to punch through Nero/Moran comp? Been running Siren instead of Liter and this is the 2nd time now where my Scarlet team is lacking dmg/ My Scarlet has 40%+ attack as well all max doll ect

coarse lake
tropic summit
wild hemlock
tropic summit
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make strong teams, ideally on high win ratio archetypes, then just sit and let RNG do its thing

wild hemlock
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For sure but I THINK I could have won this one since it was 2-3 lose and my scarlet team just couldn't punch through nero/moran happened last CA as well something similar. Thinking Siren needs to be replaced for more dmg probably

tropic summit
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your siren would've let you win against a noah in p1, while running without siren will make you lose against noah

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on the other hand running RH allows you to clean stall teams

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you take 1 risk and lose the other

wild hemlock
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yeah...

sleek imp
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creammpie or chochopie?

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anyone analysis this one yet?

swift mango
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Man, the 🧱 is real with this screenshot. 😰

scarlet adder
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ok i think i finally got couple good pvp units can someone help me set up good defense? i know for low levels cp is mostly what matters but speed also matters from what i saw. I have 3 units that have much higher cp (crown, rapi:rh, mermaid) rest is mostly low

tropic summit
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for the sake of CP but killing speed you can replace rumani with crown

tropic summit
worthy sorrel
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if there were odds based rewards you'd be a fool not to take hime at 5-1 payout

shell hazel
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Hime got this

sleek imp
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so Im voting hime?

shell hazel
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@umbral belfry lock in

sleek imp
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all correct so far btw, history shall not repent itselef Prayge

shell hazel
sleek imp
coarse solstice
wicked horizon
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Round 2 is a coinflip at the moment, whether I survive Scarlet or not.
Any ideas how to make it not be like that? 🤔

tropic summit
glad glade
# tropic summit can refer to this, a good example of double buff scar in CA against nero moran c...

Speaking of which, I’m struggling on deciding who would win for my cheer between a double res nero moran team and a double buff (with RH) Scar comp (jackalless). The moran team is very well invested (over 130k CP on all units and Moran+Nero are over 146k CP), but doesn’t quite reach 2.5 RL (faster than 3 though). The double buff 2RL scarlet team has a weak scarlet (95k CP, and she has an SR15 doll so she doesn’t even have full OL) , but is boosted by RH and Ele. Would either Helm or Mana be able to survive the nuke to bring home the victory?

tropic summit
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@glad glade
revive will be wasted on nero, the only one surviving maybe is moran, but then you need to check cores and investiment

glad glade
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Hmmm, i messed around with deck a bit, and the site says its possible to bring that stall team up to 2.5 if you have good CS on both Rapu and Helm. I’ll check for the general cores as well, one moment please

tropic summit
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assuming scarlet is 10/x/10, trina is at least 4/7/7, RH is on max invest, damage should be lethal

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at least from what we've seen on non max core units

gritty ridge
tropic summit
wicked horizon
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What the hell, now I lost round 3...
Did I crit last time or what...

tropic summit
gritty ridge
wicked horizon
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Coinflip arena

tropic summit
gritty ridge
glad glade
tropic summit
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that's actually pretty high core count on moran and nero

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iirc mana can revive even when lethal dmg is applied, so she might revive helmT

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and you might look at nero and moran being alive post nuke

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try asking for other opinions but it might not be lethal based on that invest

tropic summit
# gritty ridge

wth... 225 synchro and the dude already has nero moran built KEKW

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you've some curious opponents in ur bracket

gritty ridge
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That i do

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Its a miracle I can stay in challenger

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I can take c7 pretty easy but that feels like a waste of an attempt

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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I have maiden now, that's all thats changed

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Oh the number 1 on my bracket is tryhardingsadge

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Im fairly certain they're tracking online time

broken quest
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Yo enriched are these teams still good to go?

tropic summit
broken quest
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ty king

tropic summit
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as it's time to start using your indom

gritty ridge
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Yay I get to dust off the c5 blanc

tropic summit
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you can check those stats on blablalink or ingame up to you

gritty ridge
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Also why is their progress so low, they're sync 250

tropic summit
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a bit of deficit and they stop

gritty ridge
tropic summit
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ok so your indom is not fully usable yet

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as jackal will be indommed everytime due to less max HP

gritty ridge
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Yeah, I have no rocks for any of my pvp units

tropic summit
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once you've jackal on 4OL you can run proper indom

gritty ridge
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Game has been real stingy

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Ive gotten 3 rocks in the past 2 weeks total

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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You've got siren on there twice

tropic summit
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ensure T3 CP is above 177k before running

tropic summit
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it's a flex unit

gritty ridge
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Siren happens to have higher cp than rh lmao

tropic summit
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use her in the team that needs it more thumbsup

leaden marten
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@lunar pawn that moment when u want to try something in rookie arena and u forget that rookie arena ends today? :v

sleek imp
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wait this guy is trolling?

gritty ridge
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Not enough cpsadge

tropic summit
sleek imp
tropic summit
sleek imp
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I sea

tropic summit
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it's still beatable just need to mess with CP arrangements

gritty ridge
umbral belfry
sleek imp
gritty ridge
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Also sopa long time no see

sleek imp
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but hi DieselWave

gritty ridge
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Ive been in pvp alot recently cuz campaign is going smooth

leaden marten
sleek imp
# sleek imp

Hime you are top, Idk about P1/P5 and shotgun team

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How will you perform?

umbral belfry
# sleek imp

better to show screenshot bc it's a mirror match VoltKek also my t5 is 2.5

umbral belfry
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it'll be close but i think I lose bc investments but it will be very close for t2 and t5

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
sleek imp
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so many MLB and some C7 hmmz

umbral belfry
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I am but a whale in training

coarse solstice
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Honestly I think Cup is F2P

umbral belfry
sleek imp
umbral belfry
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f2ppie

coarse solstice
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Seems like just a solid player who grinds

sleek imp
sleek imp
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have you seen a 5 C7 pilgrim units on a f2p account?

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oh wait his rh is c6 pepehmmm

gritty ridge
coarse solstice
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I'm F2P and have a few c7s Hime can vouche

sleek imp
gritty ridge
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After manchor everyone is under 30k btw

coarse solstice
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Well one is 2B

swift mango
umbral belfry
sleek imp
gritty ridge
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Sopa how many c7 do you havepepehmmm

sleek imp
coarse solstice
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My siren only c5

sleek imp
gritty ridge
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Lame

sleek imp
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?

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you have more than 1???

gritty ridge
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Imagine not having 2

sleek imp
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lil whale

umbral belfry
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all I need max core are helm, alice and noiseblush

gritty ridge
coarse solstice
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Honestly I mostly spend on bad decisions like gatcha skins and bad colab characters 😅

sleek imp
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smh whales these days ElainaSmh

gritty ridge
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Ik, my account is so loaded

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Thats why im 30 sync lower than my opponents in sp arena

sleek imp
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just got rh today, Im just happy DieselHappy

gritty ridge
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10 10 10 yet?

sleek imp
sleek imp
gritty ridge
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You have rh, you can b1 slave

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She can also break slipper with decent attack

sleek imp
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gg, pilgrim mold and got R units

gritty ridge
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I got my first ssr from a mold in weeks today

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Flora from missilis mold

tropic summit
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your teams are on the left

gritty ridge
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Team one looks like it'll be very low cp, ill check it out tho

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I wish blabla was more intuitive cuz it shows invests

umbral belfry
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@sleek imp but yeah to answer you before I SirenMimir again, i see myself winning t3 but losing t1 and most likely t4. t2 and t5 will be close due to cp being close enough. t2 is a weird one because my moran is 7/7/9 vs his 7/7/10, with my helm attacking his lap and his helm attacking my moran. maybe that'll make a difference? not sure

t5 I'm faster but less tankier. however his bisc and pepper has no OL and my noise vs 7/7/10 vs his 4/4/7. so I'm honestly not sure. but tbh i see myself still losing 🥧

tropic summit
umbral belfry
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I honestly can't say one has a hugeee lead over another, but I should lose due to lower investment

worthy sorrel
tropic summit
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@gritty ridge if cinderella is not invested let RH be your B3 and B1 and use whatever flex you want in her stead

sleek imp
gritty ridge
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Cindy is low invest yeah, ill toss in a higher cp unit

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
coarse solstice
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I can't pick between my friends so I'm not voting 🎉 you both winners as far as I'm concerned

umbral belfry
coarse solstice
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We still need to fill the top 8 with pie

worthy sorrel
umbral belfry
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at the end of the day, pie wins

gritty ridge
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Cuz if I run this it has decent cp

tropic summit
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noah biscuit rh rrh naga

gritty ridge
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Ah okthumbsup

tropic summit
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you want to overpower moran and nero, you need strong 1 target hitters

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RRH will do well AoE but it will be reduced hard by DR stack on moran and nero

gritty ridge
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I see, and rrh is more of an initial nuke

keen vapor
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Good afternoon ShiftyHi

tropic summit
keen vapor
tropic summit
gritty ridge
tropic summit
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curious how T1 goes damage wise

keen vapor
forest zodiac
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could someone please please suggest me def teams for sp arena?
I just need to defend once against a single guy to break a stupid loop of 7-5-2-5-7

sleek imp
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wait im confused, how would rapi and rh work in pvp if they are on the same team without a B1?

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Do Rapi automatically drop to B1 before rh?

gritty ridge
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Rh got killed before Noah invul

tropic summit
keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Ig I sit at c8 til tmr

keen vapor
tropic summit
# gritty ridge

well looks like opponent is not sitting on 4RL but slightly faster

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you gonna need a flex unit faster than RRH, a clip SG would solve it

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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3.8 or something, probably has some cs on helm

tropic summit
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yep seems like NovelHmm

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originally that team was supposed to be 3RL but CP kinda tied our hands

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once you find the way to fit a tad more burst gen in there you should be fine

gritty ridge
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Yeah, cindy will be invested when I get rocks to ol her

tropic summit
sleek imp
gritty ridge
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Yeah its sad

keen vapor
tropic summit
sleek imp
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how does this look for a new SPA team?

gritty ridge
tropic summit
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T1 and T2 can do

sleek imp
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T1/T2 all cp pad units TimiProud

tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Can't you run blanc scar?

sleek imp
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CP diff KEKL

sleek imp
tropic summit
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whels spotted

sleek imp
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sometime indom saves lives

sleek imp
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Slacker ElainaSmh

gritty ridge
forest zodiac
tropic summit
forest zodiac
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leviathan? more like mother of all credit cards

tropic summit
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someone gotta pay the servers i guess

forest zodiac
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not false

sleek imp
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Wait, is that a content creator KEKWut

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How old is your account?

forest zodiac
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started in may 2024

sleek imp
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WHAT

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good malder I see pepehmmm

gritty ridge
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Would it be worth it to attack c7 and snipe 4?

tropic summit
sleek imp
gritty ridge
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C8 Ill probably hold til reset tho

tropic summit
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CP wise up to ch3 seem within your reach

gritty ridge
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C3 is a no go

tropic summit
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ch4 enough to hit CA instead

gritty ridge
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2 280k teams

tropic summit
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oof

sleek imp
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280K???

gritty ridge
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Yeah

sleek imp
tropic summit
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🐳

sleek imp
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Thats more than my main campagin team 1 week ago wt

gritty ridge
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Oh yeah they're in my rookie arena

sleek imp
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how is your new bracket this stack literwut

gritty ridge
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Have been since I started

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They are 100% whale

sleek imp
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whale party KEKL

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yeah no, I only have 5 mega whale, and 2 of em dont mald hmmz

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gotta start CreditIssue

gritty ridge
placid bloom
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you got pummeled tbh, their Noah does almost as much damage as your Mermaid

gritty ridge
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There's no deficit, I burst faster, I dont understand

tropic summit
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in this case it looks like you were either in deficit or very bad invest

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2RL vs 3RL but they stomped you

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multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and see if you were above

keen vapor
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Overloads TimiSerious

gritty ridge
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There's no need for calc

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Where can I put siren to stun the 💢💢

keen vapor
tropic summit
placid bloom
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defender p1 has longer travel time than p5 I think? Since their p5 is right above your p1, so their Noise lands after Noah

finite prawn
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Is this still up-to-date?

placid bloom
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assuming no cs

gritty ridge
tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Noise still pulled taunt

placid bloom
finite prawn
umbral belfry
tropic summit
placid bloom
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yeah because defender p1 is on the right and your p1 is on the left, so Noah is closer to your p1 and will land rocket first then Noise lands

gritty ridge
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I watched siren shoot all the way over to noiseAngyRapi

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Stupid mermaid

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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I just killed Noah before they burst

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It was close last time so im assuming I crit

keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Alright, how long til I get kicked, place your bets

tropic summit
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you can see their last login time

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if it's low, maybe they won't login again for long

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if it's high, they might login again soon

placid bloom
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you spent your 2 attacks already so if you get knocked down you can end up diamond tomorrow TimiProud

placid bloom
tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Bad idea, but I wanted that number 4 spot

tropic summit
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if you learned a bit more about pvp and your own teams, maybe it was a good investiment for the time being NovelHmm

gritty ridge
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Nah i still dont know how his team beat me

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Should I buy another one and look at teamsclueless

placid bloom
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maybe their Noah has a billion ele dmg and killed your Centi before you can B2 clueless

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and now your Centi is in safe spot

gritty ridge
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I burst before them

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I watched myself burst, and them invul the whole thing

placid bloom
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unlucky TimiProud

sleek imp
gritty ridge
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I even swapped out bay cuz I know she wouldn't help with alice burst

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And then I swapped out cindy

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And then noise

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Whats the fastest possible team btw

sleek imp
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go fight other team

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Noah is hard to counter

gritty ridge
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?

sleek imp
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I usually just skip noah team w my cp pad onesFrimaSleep

gritty ridge
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I won

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Siren is a Noah counter, mine just decided not to

sleek imp
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yeah mermaaid stuns

gritty ridge
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Siren counters, helm does too if you use b3

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Or does helm counter jackal

sleek imp
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Jackal

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you are not healing w HelmT against noah KEKL

gritty ridge
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Helm b3 is a solo nuke

sleek imp
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thats not her purpose for on burstif I remembered correctly

spare nimbus
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Which unit would taunt rosanna/siren, noise or noah? My noise has higher cs

gritty ridge
tropic summit
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if your noise is faster than your noah, it means noah applies taunt for last, then it's a noah taunt priority team

gritty ridge
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Rail youre here, what do we use helm b3 forpepehmmm

spare nimbus
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Would noise, noah, cindy, thelm, centi be better than noise, noah, cindy, thelm, emilia then?

placid bloom
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for stall or for killing Jackal link pepehmmm

tropic summit
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as her dmg can overflow (as in her nuke is way more than max hp of a unit), she can also nuke linked nikke (jackal or bay links)

gritty ridge
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She can nuke my bay teampoggies

tropic summit
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since those units would distribute damage that would generally instead be lost

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in bay case depends, if she bursts at same time, she'll absorb the nuke

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if she has already bursted and her cover is down, she'll distribute

gritty ridge
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Btw if you need to speed match bay, is she worse on defense than attack?

spare nimbus
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I originally made my team 2 as a counter to rosanna, where she would target helm and emi since they are attackers, and not kill noah, but i realized that was useless since if noah hits rosanna she taunts anyway so no point

tropic summit
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2RL bay will reliably either catch nuke or at least ensure you've damage reduction on

gritty ridge
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Ah ok

tropic summit
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keep in mind bay cannot do well against multi hitting nukes instead, like cinderella or emilia

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although she can mitigate the dmg via the damage reduction she applies

gritty ridge
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Yeah, bay is for scar or helm and the like

tropic summit
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yep pretty much

gritty ridge
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Thats why I swapped her out against the alice team

tropic summit
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rosanna aswell is a good example, as you can also catch that nuke

gritty ridge
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She works against t.drake?

tropic summit
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you mean her burst?

gritty ridge
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Yeah

tropic summit
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if it's a single hit burst and bay cover is up sure will

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else it will get distributed to the party

gritty ridge
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OK so what are my options against Noah? Is it just siren and soda?

tropic summit
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to deal with noah you either have to cast a delayed nuke (emilia) or kill/disable her before she can cast (siren or faster teams, when possible)

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sometimes it's also just easier skipping that team and focusing on the other 2

gritty ridge
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So Noah is just that problematic

tropic summit
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up to today she remains the only unit that can apply invulnerable to whole team

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she's also good at burst gen, is a defender unit (combo with biscuit) and has taunt

gritty ridge
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So shes crown for pvp

tropic summit
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she's definitely a pvp core unit

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used in all teams, from rookie to CA

gritty ridge
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Rookie at least its easier to counter cuz you dont have to worry about splitting apart teams

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Challenger must be unfortunate

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You dont even get to pick

tropic summit
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SParena actually is very simple but you need to have the pvp core units

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once you do, it becomes rock paper scissor

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scarlet? run noah
noah? run siren
indom? run sustain/stall
sustain/stall? run nuke/rosanna

gritty ridge
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Yeah, I cant wait til I get to invest pvp lmao

spare nimbus
tropic summit
spare nimbus
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Ugh why am i blind when reading these skills then when i read it again i get it

tropic summit
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in your defense, nikke skill details are explained sometimes very bad

gritty ridge
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I think they should make grave burst gen work before burst👉👈

spare nimbus
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Do u have any suggestions for improving my current sp def?

gritty ridge
tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Who is jackal linked with on team 1?

spare nimbus
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If ur talking to me lol

gritty ridge
gritty ridge
tropic summit
gritty ridge
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Would yall say Noah is more front or rear skewed placement wise

tropic summit
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T1 offers scarlet safe from enemy sirens, while having your own siren stunning any taunters (e.g. noah) or stunning p1
T2 generic 2RL with DR, anti nuke and nuke on its own
T3 2.5RL emi indom

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the alternative would be making a 2.5RL nero moran team and tweaking around whatever is left to form another 2RL or 2.5RL

spare nimbus
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Would u recommend me leveling up blanc’s burst to 10? I have her at 7 rn

tropic summit
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extra debuff and buff, so it would be worth it

spare nimbus
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What about emi, i have her at 10 7 10 but idk if skill 2 is worth to 10

tropic summit
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it has updated recommended invest for pvp

spare nimbus
tropic summit
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for preventing noah taunt priority you only need iirc around 5-6%

spare nimbus
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So if they use a siren to stun, noah still bursts

lunar pawn
tropic summit
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3.5RL vs 3RL would make SBS come out of indom later than emi would

lunar pawn
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alright, will cheer on the assumption attacker loses prayge

tropic summit
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ask for more opinions regardless then try to average it out

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3 or 4 ppl saying the same thing should increase the odds

lunar pawn
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think most people agreed with the first 4 calls

tropic summit
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should be set then

lunar pawn
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last fight was mostly inclined towards defender

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hope so, pls unlucky frame this season Kopium

spare nimbus
tropic summit
spiral onyx
umbral crown
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Time to watch

tropic summit
umbral crown
covert lintel
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Bottom win

lunar pawn
oblique ridge
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Does Keripo easily win his current matchup? pepehmmm

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He’s my cheer, I auto-cheered him, but on the off chance he will lose.. let me know deaddoro

lunar pawn
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got the matchups?

eager mountain
tropic summit
eager mountain
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omw

tropic summit
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to where

eager mountain
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pepehmmm also I might be younger then I think.
5 hr sleep total in 2day and still reasonably functional

ionic rose
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wanna ask how blanc's unkillable thing works, it say nikke with lowest hp, does that mean it would target Scarlet with 3 mill health at max hp vs a tank at 3.5mill hp out of 4 mill max hp?

keen vapor
umbral crown
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@covert lintel i saw you attack a 621 boi

tropic summit
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as such, blanc will pick SBS for sure

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on this example, instead, p1 blanc used with rapunzel and p2 exposed to splash will lead to p2 having lowest hp and be picked for indom
if blanc dies she'll be revived with still lower HP than the healed p2 target (although blanc cannot cast indom on herself anyway)

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the logic is always: ensure your lowest HP target when blanc casts is your indom target, the following are the most common to achieve that

-jackal method
-revive method
-biscuit + blanc method

crystal flicker
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Sometimes Jackal messed with low hp

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If your DPS has higher doll, it can lead to misindom due to dmg spread reduction

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I finally made it to top 8, though after reviewing other player, it seems it'll be hard to win this CA

ionic rose
covert lintel
umbral crown
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waos, did you record it?

covert lintel
umbral crown
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oh

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in another server...a boi said: waos, rakuen attacked astharot or somehing like that

raven plover
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2 people from his bracket

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:pepesnipe:

umbral crown
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hobo knows

covert lintel
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Whopepehmmm

umbral crown
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its a secret

ionic rose
tropic summit
keen vapor
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CHEATER NeonPoint

tropic summit
umbral crown
umbral crown
thin perch
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Is Sora worth pulling for PVP?

raven plover
oblique ridge
# thin perch Is Sora worth pulling for PVP?

No, too specific and also unnecessary advantage. So far she’s used to dispel Siren’s at-combat-start debuff and doing so prevents her from stunning anyone. Sora also can heal team when she bursts, but that’s hardly unique

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But team Scarlet can also just reposition characters to avoid Siren stun

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Useless on defense in SPA (the “team” gets countered), useless on attack in SPA (you have other ways to counter anyway)

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Useless on defense/attack in Rookie for the same reasons.

Not a surefire victory condition in CA, you might not even end up fighting Siren or might not even actually win when you bring Sora against a Siren.

So Sora’s just waiting to counter some future pvp unit that doesn’t exist yet.

Keripo does use her though. Mainly so he can just stick Scarlet in p1.

pure moss
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Moil top am I winning?

oblique ridge
# pure moss Moil top am I winning?

From your pov, imo as an unreliable cheer analyst:
R1: L
R2: W / coin flip
R3: W / assumes very strong Nero & Moran & Rapunzel
R4: L
R5: W / but can you kill Cindy with the Scarlet AoE?

pure moss
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I can check real quick

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nvm can't test cuz my rookie rank 1 cindy team is 2.5 RL

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Rapunzel ain't stronk yet

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She at least has OL 0

oblique ridge
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Well, I guess get second opinions

pure moss
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ig I'll trust on myself this time

spiral onyx
# oblique ridge Useless on defense/attack in Rookie for the same reasons. Not a surefire victor...

Close.
Sora offers 2 things:

  1. A very high heal (~70% of her max HP), which will very likely top off your entire team
  2. Cleanse your entire team of 1 debuff (the first applied)

For 1, this is very useful in a Jackal-Blanc setup as you can almost guarantee which unit the Blanc invuln will land on. Rapunzel helps do this as well but she only heals for 40% HP compared to Sora's 70% HP (52% x 135% due to her S1).

For 2, this is a Siren counter. The first debuff that applies to your P1 would almost always be the Siren bubble effect. Removing that during the B1 timing (assuming you B1 before their Siren stun effect timing) will thus prevent the stun. The normal counter to Siren is simply don't put your key unit in P1, but Sora allows you to ignore this restriction completely. This let's you put Scarlet in P1 which can help against Rosanna SG comps who die to Scarlet's counter even when Rosanna removes the Jackal chain (previously I had Rapunzel in P1 and removing the Jackal chain from Rapunzel meant no more Scarlet counterattack).

But overall, Sora is a very very niche PvP unit whose only real value is replacing Rapunzel in my Blanc-Scarlet-Jackal comp. I would not recommend people invest into her as she is not a general purpose unit.

oblique ridge
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Oh, so that’s actually rather nice then

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Can use Sora in Blanc team while Blanc’s in p1

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Or can use Sora in Scarlet Jackal team while Scarlet’s in p1

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A Sora a day keeps the Mermaid away? DoroAhuhe

spiral onyx
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The benefit overall is minimal. My main motivation was freeing up Rapunzel for use in the Moran-Nero-Helm comp, but after some testing I think I prefer the Mana variant for that comp anyways so the free up was unnecessary

oblique ridge
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Mana variant as in Nero, Moran, Helm, Mana, Biscuit?

oblique ridge
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Oh, I see. With Mana you can move Moran. This can cover p1 and p5 poggies

Nero, Biscuit, Helm, Mana, Moran

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I assume 18% Helm and Biscuit lets this successfully burst Moran before B3s, and Mana will resurrect Biscuit or Helm if necessary. Can even swap Helm and Biscuit if want Helm to take collateral damage instead of Biscuit

crystal flicker
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W L W W L?

sleek imp
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Top or bottom? CrownHUH

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If you are talking abiut the bottom one i do agree SWDrool

spiral onyx
lunar olive
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is Drake treasure a clip SG?

keen vapor
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My Scarlet already can ignore stun

keen vapor
umbral belfry
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@keen vapor treasure this

lunar olive
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this fine for staying in diamond 1-3 right? Trying to lessen the amount of nikke I need to build

wintry viper
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is Nero a good investment just for SP Arena?

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what Nikkes do i need for a good SG team in SP Arena?

coarse lake
worthy knoll
coarse lake
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tbh in nero moran comp I feel like it's better to be stuck at b2 for a few seconds than have the wrong b2 burst

lunar olive
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changed some since I have some investments on blanc rh and emilia already. idk what the books mean tho kek I just copied whatever in the pinned are

spiral onyx
spiral onyx
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Nero burst isnt critical. Moran and Helm burst is

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Grumpy Cat
Cooldown: 20s
■ Affects 1 enemy unit(s) with the highest remaining HP.
Deals 1104.91% of final ATK as Burst Skill damage.
■ Affects self.
Attract: Taunt all enemies for 15 sec.
■ Activates when Cat's Repayment is fully stacked. Affects self.
Grumpy Cat: Potency of HP restored ▲ 60.08% for 15 sec.

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Yeah thats not critical. She just adds a second taunt ontop of Moran's

worthy knoll
spiral onyx
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succeptable to SAnis vs dead to every other comp

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3s of full burst auto attack damage from the enemy team is going to tear your team apart in CA

worthy knoll
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Nah

spiral onyx
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unless they're all single target units hitting Moran

worthy knoll
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As long its not Blanc, nah

spiral onyx
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so many times my Emilia team wipes out the enemy team before Emilia even lands her burst

lunar olive
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oof that's a lot more investment needed

spiral onyx
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just the raw power of a RH buffed, full burst buffed Laplace+ AoEing while protected by Noah

worthy knoll
lunar olive
crystal flicker
coarse lake
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I remember seeing this comp pop up a bit ago, is it still any good or nah

spiral onyx
worthy knoll
coarse lake
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hmmTea your emilia team is using siren tho?

worthy knoll
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Coz Moran bursting is enough to tank it

spiral onyx
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A lot of properly invested teams would tear Moran apart just from auto-attacks

spiral onyx
worthy knoll
spiral onyx
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Remember, in CA, everything is infinitely squishier.

worthy knoll
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Mmh, I still don't think its enough to kill

spiral onyx
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Ive also seen my SG teams tear through a non-Biscuit-protected Moran. But maybe this is all just me running fully maxed out invested units

worthy knoll
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Yeah, Moran only need to burst, Nero is already 100%

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Why we talking about Moran though?

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Moran is always safe

spiral onyx
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Cause Moran bursts, she taunts

worthy knoll
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In Nero team CrownHUH

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If she bursts then she can die right?

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If she does not burst then no taunt

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You only need Moran to burst then what happens to her is don't care as long its not against an SAnis team

spiral onyx
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Moran bursts, Nero stunned, Moran melts to enemy team who just AoE nuked and is autoattacking down Moran very fast, then switches target back to a low HP Nero (who got hit by the AoE) and wipes her out as well cause no Biscuit protection

worthy knoll
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But Nero is already 100% at that point

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Nero won't die

spiral onyx
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how is Nero at 100%?

worthy knoll
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Okay 95% assuming its Siren

spiral onyx
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or do you mean damage reduction 100%

crystal flicker
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101?

worthy knoll
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Yeah damage reduction

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Even if Nero low hp, she won't die

spiral onyx
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hmm, so your proposal is something like:
Nero Moran Rapunzel Helm Mana?

worthy knoll
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Mana is not necessary

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Laplace+ is better

spiral onyx
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Im not sure who you want to use as your last slot

worthy knoll
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Only need HelmT third shot Moran already bursts

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And Laplace+ has better damage off burst damage

spiral onyx
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Laplace would also die from SGs and instant-lose

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Moran in P5 is the reason I prefer the Mana variant

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Nero Biscuit Helm Mana Moran

worthy knoll
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Nah, its still better, since Laplace+ is tanky enough, and she can die to if its just against SG

spiral onyx
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My P5 Centi dies against SGs, not sure how Laplace+ will survive

worthy knoll
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As long she does her 2nd shot, she can die after

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Centi with tempura?

spiral onyx
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the moment she dies though SG team kicks off their Rosanna and burst chain, ded Helm

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yes, Centi with Tempering, SR5 doll though, need to SR15 later

worthy knoll
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I think its fine, regardless for that to happen

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You encounter unluckily SG, unluckily its defending SG

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And even if you do, Nero can solo it herself imo

spiral onyx
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Im just not convinced removing Biscuit to force a delayed Nero burst makes the most sense

worthy knoll
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That but more like Biscuit is better on other places than Nero

spiral onyx
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that was my main argument against Nero Moran Biscuit comps

worthy knoll
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You just placed Biscuit coz of hypothetical SG hitting your Backline

spiral onyx
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it just so happens that in my current cook, Biscuit is no longer used anywhere else because the Moran Nero Helm team is replacing the Moran Biscuit SAnis team lol

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if we had more units, Id love to split Biscuit off to build a 5th team to replace the SG team

spiral onyx
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Scarlet didnt even burst?

worthy knoll
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Yeah, already died together with Trina before B2 is clicked KEKW

tulip quest
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Wth?

shell hazel
tulip quest
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Kinda amazing how Nikke as a game helped me with calculations more than College lol XD

worthy knoll
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She died many times over in the span of that lag Doro

tulip quest
shell hazel
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definitely some buggy interaction with mihara, cindy p1 spotted as well

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anyone tried that team to see if it's reproducible?

tulip quest
shell hazel
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I mean could be run on attack instead of waiting to see it on def

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the mihara/scarlet interaction there seems bugged, presumably this also feeds into the jackal link causing the lag and death lol

worthy knoll
shell hazel
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so it's your team in the recording?

worthy knoll
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Yeah, my IGN is there right CrownHUH

shell hazel
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didn't know that it was yours 😛

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why are you putting cindy p1 btw? presume there is a reason

worthy knoll
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To make enemy Noah's quicker

shell hazel
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damn what is this voodoo lol

worthy knoll
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Well its more of a meme team that if you kill the team in one go I lose, but if you let me reach my Cindy burst, I will surely win Doro

oblique ridge
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What are your Mihara OLs?

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Ballpark? 100% ele, 50% atk?

worthy knoll
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She is just built skill wise KEKW

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Well at least her non DoT part

oblique ridge
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Idk what happened then. My only theory is that when your Mihara died, she RNG stacked all of her on-death chains onto Siren. Siren is Wind, so is Fire-weak. Hence, Mihara would do especially significantly more damage than you’d expect. Siren was linked. So the whole link ate a bomb courtesy of Mihara

worthy knoll
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It still doesn't explain other non linked dying KEKW

oblique ridge
vapid lake
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susge how come when i sac mihara she does no dmg, she's 10/10/10

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What black magic u using

worthy knoll
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Though if I would go to theory, I will think something like, it happens if Mihara dies exactly when the DoT ticks happen

oblique ridge
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NVM, took this screenshot at the right moment

worthy knoll
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Like some magic happens if they alligned and make it like Mihara DoT ticks like a nuke

oblique ridge
vapid lake
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susge maybe all that lag/stuttering has something to do with this

worthy knoll
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Spaghetti code got confused with the loops, gave all the atk buff to Mihara KEKW

shell hazel
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the true essence of mihara sac

vapid lake
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Then it result in this big dmg

shell hazel
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I think it's essentially trying to calculate too much stuff in real time and that leads to the lag and then the boom :p

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if both teams had jackal links it may go even crazier

crystal flicker
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Don't report this, let's use Mihara next CA pepehmmm

shell hazel
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I wonder if cindy p1 makes it more likely to bug out due to it having more to calculate (each shot would need to check for p1 skip)

atomic wolf
atomic wolf
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in fact in theory if the spaghetti code actually is screwed up the moment mihara dies which causes her DoT to pops off crazy

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this is a weird quirk but it also needs to be tested in various environments

lunar pawn
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checking again just to make sure, everyone thinks bottom (attacker) loses then? #pvp-arena message pepehmmm

pulsar inlet
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I'm not super pvp heavy, but whats a good generalist 1v1 and 3v3 pvp team?

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I have other nikke outside of this ss as well if there is one super recommended

covert lintel
lunar pawn
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so hoping for the best now prayge

swift mango
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This Union raid made me look closely into Eve kits...

Her idea investment for Arena would be probably

Skill: 10x10 (s2 as high as possible while still the 3rd highest ATK to evade Rossanna)

Gear: 25% in 4 x Crit line this is non negotiable, ATK 0% to evade Rossanna, Crit dmg x4, 1-2Ammo line. 2-3 Ele.

Since she won't link, the only way to use her with Blanc is through Mana or Rapu revive. Mana could help bait Rossanna but you lose the revival in this case.

tropic summit
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as for rookie, you can run this one

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highly suggest you build helm treasure and build/wishlist rumani, trina and noise

pulsar inlet
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I believe i have rumani, trina and noise thx for the guide

tropic summit
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the blanc in T1 is dependant on whether you want indom scarlet or just nuke scarlet

pulsar inlet
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helm treasure working on that now

tropic summit
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since you can't use blanc in both, once you've trina replace blanc in T1 with her, or for the time being use grave instead

keen vapor
onyx scaffold
keen vapor
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And, according to blood, you can't change bet already

swift mango
covert lintel
onyx scaffold
keen vapor
covert lintel
swift mango
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It's either 3% or 10% anyway

keen vapor
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How to deal 5b with Rapi team....

swift mango
swift mango
covert lintel
keen vapor
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I have 3 ele already, c'mon

placid bloom
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should be doable with less if you are Eve/MMast

keen vapor
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I'm not bricking for iron raid

placid bloom
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what you using, Helm XLud? Helm RH?

keen vapor
swift mango
placid bloom
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who is your other B3 then CrownHUH

onyx scaffold
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wtf. i guessed wrong 4 games and still won

keen vapor
keen vapor
covert lintel
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I am still full investing moran nero, so can't solo raidShiftyDed

placid bloom
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LapT Naga? pepehmmm

keen vapor
umbral belfry
covert lintel
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How was it ? @lunar pawn

umbral belfry
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my time for sleep has come WormFrimaWiggle

placid bloom
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what your 5th slot then pepehmmm

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feel like you out of buffers other than XLud at this point

swift mango
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Echo is more bricking this solo raid than me. NeonPoint

placid bloom
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unless you just going MMast 5th anyway

placid bloom
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well it's time to beef your LapT then

placid bloom
keen vapor
umbral belfry
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if anything I'm surprises my t4 won

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but CrownHUH

covert lintel
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@raven plover Rematch timepoggies

keen vapor
keen vapor
placid bloom
swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
shell hazel
umbral belfry
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lock in hippo 🗣️

placid bloom
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poggies it's your champion run

umbral belfry
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get your revenge for being screwed in league 2x poggies

swift mango
shell hazel
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this matches the highest I've been so far

covert lintel
covert lintel
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Hobo made team specially for thishmmz

swift mango
shell hazel
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I need to analyse my next matches a bit later

umbral belfry
swift mango
shell hazel
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sorry to hear Hime, lock out NoahCry

keen vapor
keen vapor
umbral belfry
covert lintel
swift mango
raven plover
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if I win tho that would be epic, no biscuit ChadCommander

swift mango
covert lintel
raven plover
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wtf 80% PepeTF

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none of my sgs are good not even 20% atk / ele BurninKek

eager mountain
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Oh, so she’s getting treasure

raven plover
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wait viper 30% atk clueless

swift mango
#

I find Love and deep space make such cool male Characters background... Why can't other games with male characters made theirs like that...

First guy: Typical lone wolf mysterious hunter...
2nd guy: Doctor with secret power that attracts monsters
3rd guy: cute painter at day, but an assassin at night.
4th guy: A emo deity dragon in human form.
5th guy: the childhood friend that turned half machine after an accident and risen up in the army.

pepehmmm

umbral belfry
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blood invested into LADS poggies

swift mango
umbral belfry
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not yet, been busy thr last few days

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stop making me wanna re-download reeYoha

shell hazel
umbral belfry
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say sylus

placid bloom
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real men marry all 5 and the FMC clueless

swift mango
umbral belfry
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acceptable answer Susge

swift mango
shell hazel
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if Hime says so then I accept it

umbral belfry
swift mango
umbral belfry
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but if it was sylus

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I would goon to heights never seen before

swift mango
umbral belfry
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watching it on the plane poggies poggies poggies

lunar pawn
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@covert lintel @oblique ridge @tropic summit
and the faster indom won 💀

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I gotta start trusting my instinct more often

glad glade
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@umbral belfry @tropic summit It worked!! Everyone on the stall team held out and survived the meganuke! (I’m aiming for loser’s frame)

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Thank you!!

umbral belfry
swift mango
lunar pawn
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won't go for the unlucky frame anymore so soon, I'll vote randomly for the first 3 cheers, if I lose all 3, then I'll go for it, else waste of time

placid bloom
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whoa kiss scene poggies

swift mango
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Beginner luck again. Getting double in 1% banner when I rarely get double (less than 5 times) in thousands of my pulls in Nikke 4% pain

shell hazel
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my highest in nikke is 3 x in a 10 pull which I've had a few times

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single or nothing mostly though lol

swift mango
shell hazel
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I've had streaks of like 100 with nothing though as well 😛

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I'd love to see my actual results but SU hide it

glad glade
pure moss
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@oblique ridge

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Cookiee bottom, who's winning?

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@umbral belfry

umbral belfry
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T1 L
T2 L
T3 ? will depend on both investments
T4 L
T5 W

pure moss
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o7 my rank 2

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rank 4 again

umbral belfry
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2rl scar vs 3rl sbs, sgs into blanc protected bisc, sgs will destroy anis

umbral belfry
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your time will come

placid bloom
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maybe Ros one-shot Emi RH TimiProud

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so no B3

umbral belfry
pure moss
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I'm thinking about building Mana for that 2.5 RL team and replace anis with Laplace

placid bloom
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it's unlinked no taunt

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so if Ros stronk definitely doable clueless

umbral belfry
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pray for t3 but i have my doubts

pure moss
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my Rosanna is pretty stronk

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but my bet is on cookiee again

umbral belfry
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it's 3rl vs 3rl bc no deaths on bottom side, but rosa is b1

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emi is likely dead and possibly rh

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hmmmm

pure moss
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ye I'll take p2 and p5

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p3 is rng

umbral belfry
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assuming you do win p2 and p5 it'll be up to p3

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believe in your stall

pure moss
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either way my bet is on previous champ

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Imma have those 2.5 RL ready after 2 more CA

umbral belfry
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I get to debut my stall team HAPPYHAPPYHAPPY

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I'm so excited

umbral belfry
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should hold for our baby bracket at 2.5

pure moss
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I see

umbral belfry
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eventually I wanna get rapu skills up but that'll take time

pure moss
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I'm at 10/8/7 for Rapunzel

umbral belfry
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the dream Woah

pure moss
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I think 10/9/7

umbral belfry
pure moss
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Imma get her to 10/10

umbral belfry
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maybe wait and see how summer units are first

pure moss
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and 21% cs for next CA

umbral belfry
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kilia locked in

pure moss
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she's at 18% rn

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Imma save up for c7 Anne hmmz

gritty ridge
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I was not expecting to hold

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Champions arena maybe👉👈

umbral belfry
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so you have to maintain point ranking 4

gritty ridge
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Ive been in challenger the entire time so im top 10 in points

oblique ridge
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I got the other cheer instead of Keripo deadge

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Anyone know if Tataru wins?

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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top 10 in points is not top 4 in points pepehmmm

gritty ridge
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Yeah but being top 4 for long enough could put me there 👉👈

placid bloom
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you'd need to hold rank 2 or 1 to make up for the point loss for being below top 4 for half the season

oblique ridge
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For some reason I’m having trouble retaining information, I kept forgetting I noted he lost both R1 and R2 Admipanic

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It might be the flip flop of which side is which

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Lose first two rounds, win final two rounds, coin flip r3

gritty ridge
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Ill need yall to help me get the gamba frame on my alt next season

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Its bunny themed so I need gamba frame

hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel cheering TAV

tropic summit
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learn the pattern and apply it for the next prediction, you won't be fooled again

oblique ridge
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I’m curious to see how that happened too. Did BScarlet run out of ammo? Or did she leave up Blanc and Jackal, then die to them after killing Emilia? Etc

tropic summit
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there was another variable, blanc + biscuit might've denied damage enough

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also depend on SBS invest

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and ofc reload timings

atomic wolf
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diddypvp

dense kindle
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Hello everyone ShiftyHi , can I get some help with predictions prayge

strong hull
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@tropic summit

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Im giving up

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Gonna be lọ vương chí tôn man

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Bunch of B rating

tropic summit
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rest are B+ KEKW

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and this after 151hours

strong hull
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You wat

tropic summit
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if you use 💳 it's easy to get A rank

strong hull
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Im using it

tropic summit
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then i'm concerned pain

strong hull
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Gonna throw it into bin then

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When the power of money cant even get A

tropic summit
strong hull
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So wick

tropic summit
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just blame it on RNG

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it's not skill issue then thumbsup

strong hull
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IT IS

tropic summit
strong hull