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That’s my plan too
Random 1st cheer, then try to win all losses or wins off that one
already got the lucky frame so I can keep not giving a f about the next 5 if I win now
@tropic summit wat should i do now
git gud
send me the git link


Holy, that’s actually a good link
it's pinned for a reason
although we had to ask for it to be pinned for several months
Btw funny thing about that Emilia team
Past CAs my half heartedly invested Emilia team would often lose because Emilia gets killed after Noah invincible drops
So this time around I said screw it to defending p5 and stuck Noah p1 and Centi p2 
And every single enemy in groups were Defenders.. so their SGs of course shot my Laplace. 
Because you sac the opposite 
the secret is that on the side intern kun purposedly places counters against your teams
Oh hey that reminds me about that guy who was up against a team that can’t Full Burst because Viper treasure
How did it go, I wonder 
That went fine as expected, since that team was walled bu defender P1 P5 and biscuit
Chinese bots?
japanese/chinese/korean bracket
They are all real players, Global does not have bots
finally we meet
No, i'll lose
Many teams have wrong position
I might be beaten up to a pulp
I got in again, tho i wonder how they figure im 1st and not tied or something with the 2nd place person, i lost to that guy too
. Also I dont think im beating this next guy, qualified for top 16 last time but this guy was 4th. his comp looks a lot better aka actually invested for CA 
what does cliprl mean?
Would these work regardless or order? Or are there any specific setups that work better than others?
rl that doesnt fully reload all ammo at once
high reload time but also high gen
Numbers of nikkes left alive hp %
Share his teams
oooo excel sheet
it's the list of the clip RL you've been using you tool
those timestamp standards are quite... outdated in terms of defintion now
for instance, no cs 2rl is actually closer to 5sg then 4sg
Huh, good to know
. which teams, the guy im up against?
Yes
they know the timing of 5sg isnt anywhere close to the middle of 2rl and 3rl... and yet named it 2.5 rl... thats more like rl with good cs, but by default ppl assume no rl...
5sg is more like... 2.2rl
5sg noah can block most 2-rl sccar with
but 15 cs helm which translated to 3rl - 23 frames = 2.3rl can barely make it and fails against 2rl scar with decent cs
tho any sg is weak to scar anyways, so ig more like... pascal, but frame data would be diff
amazing, T1 and T2 are already straight counters
oh T3 aswell
you're looking at either 3-2 or 4-1 for you
Here's the results of the S7 League matches with my new experimental teams. The only loss was from the new SG team but I'm pretty sure the old SG team would have lost as well.
- S7 Teams: https://youtu.be/ByZ_cvH3T7M
- S7 League: https://youtu.be/9Lrq6Gpf9Xs
If you want to keep up with the latest PvP meta, make sure to check out my PvP tier li...
well I appreciated rails optimism 
why wouldn't you put bay p1 (bad move but for this scenario) when you have bisc
would have potentially saved your t1
his T1 is fine? i thought he's in the second picture
he's the 2nd pic but i have my doubts on t1 
anchor is
but afterwards idk
although i'm not sure how pos5 rosa targets
assuming his anchor is killed, rosanna will then target p2 and p3, indeed if biscuit fails to proc on bay that's bye bye to all 3 B2s
what ya think? @tropic summit 2rl 2rl 3rl (couldnt get the last team to 2.5rl)
I could've put my Bay in t1 but shes not invested at all and she typically dies somehow sp I just wanted to make sure she would live.
pray 
nah bay needs to be p3 or p4
p1 and p2 is bye bye cover in usual scenarios
and bay without cover is not gonna save you from nukes
shame it's not updated but Anchor and Rouge are SR5 too
it's true bay p3 or p4 is the safe and cozy way 
hime is right, anchor in p1 might cost you that match afterall
ironically you would've wanted bay p1 here 
because it will allow SGs to snowball, rosanna will murder p2 and p3 because of no attackers
i assumed p2 would get invulnerable, but it's not guaranteed
believe in bay
believe? 
also t3 has RNG afterall, just noticed it's a soda in p2
you've noah and noise taunting her
yeahhhh
if noise taunt priority it could work out
i guess it goes down to t5 then?
bc t3 pos 2 soda is gonna stun both noah and noise no?
t5 will have SGs shooting p5 cindy, if cindy dies they're B3-less
there's hope 
although, they've noise and noah taunting 2 sgs away, cindy not gonna die 
RIP cain, it was a pleasure 
there's no hope 
ill show the result tomorrow but while we are on the topic, next time around how could I better optimize the CA comp? is Sora worth getting and putting in too?
and i think i could also replace sanis with sbs if its more fitting
My teams aren't exactly copy paste friendly
i was about to say 
If you don't have the investment, they may lose badly
T1 assuming siren is linked is good
T2 is non linked siren resistant, but move biscuit to p4 and helmt to p5 to avoid losing biscuit to RH
T3 is insanely copium, that noise is gonna get murdered
tbh i struggle trying to figure out where sora would go for a ca team. all i can think of is scar if she has more than 32 ammo
otherwise...noah? but you'd be better off using noise so
they took my spot 😦
assuming cleanse works against siren, best bet is on a team that needs to ensure b2 or b3 in p1 is safe
i think it does no?
the usual cases would be blanc p1 teams or noah p1 teams or scarlet p1 teams
t1 siren is linked yes , and it barley gets to 2rl with centi which means i dont need helm in that team
t2 will do that
t3 yeah kinda but i dont really have better choices , its slow rl which means i could need to build anis later on or find a good battery to build , which might be also bay but depends, but what im here thinking about is if i should put summer anis or sbs here
these are the units i have left after team 1 and 2
i'll come back later, think I can get a standard 10 pull from events
maybe these 2
what's that book
don't think you need 2 clip RL
yeah seems wasteful
this assumes that blanc lives to 3RL B1 anyway, needs temperance
either way i don't plan on using sora 
ye reasonable
helm's s1 (or was it s2
) maxed
oh
at least sora can have some use for sp attack somewhat
seems too niche
she has revive ?
no
she just heals. and her s2 attack buff does nothing for pvp
and she can dispel a debuff (stun) hence the niche
but with better b1 options she's pretty meh, at least to me
tbh i would just redo team 1 😭
although i think (?) sAnis has less counters than sbs
but bc there's no sAnis in my bracket i never bothered checking 
unless she also gets countered by noah + bisc?
sora looks interesting
why you think that? because of the heal or the cleanse?
i dont think there is any other combinations without butchering my other 2 teams , since my last img shows the remaining nikkes after i put the 3 teams together
the heal
let me pull her to start investing 
i think sanis targets 2 units with most atk with her passive , so if said unit with high atk is immune with biscut that would be a counter i think , but im not sure if it taunts or not since i never watch the battles
hihi i'd like an updated version for my pvp special arena lineup!
Blue and purples 
would be appreciated if you could kind of include a generic attack squad too (with just 2 strong teams)
Looking for help to update my rookie and arena teams
why biscuit P5 on moran team out of interest?
SP arena defense
siren scarlet blanc centi jackal
naga bay cindy helmt rh
noah biscuit rrh sbs emilia
SP arena attack teams generic purpose
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit helmt emilia siren
rrh sbs liter naga alice - cp pad (throwaway)
Notes
rumani in synchro, build her
rosanna in synchro, build her
wishlist trina, then build her
thank you!!
i will do exactly that
and pascal 2 shots is actually slightly slower then 1 rl, "2.5rl" pascal unreliable for casting b2 before their b3... does cs even work on pascal?
the pvp cubes are as shown in https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/harmony-cubes-suggestions, right?
are there any priority units to equip the specific cubes if i don't have enough slots?
prydwen's cube is mostly right from what i remember
SP arena
siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind helmt rrh
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace
Rookie
jackal scarlet trina helmt rh
ye that's fine
i don't even have all of the cubes yet 
no tempering cube for siren from the get go hahahaha
just use highest lv cube if running out of vigor/tempering
exactly how does this work?
if i use a 5/5 bastion cube, does it overwrite the units that are already using the cube?
one cube can only be on one unit at a time
yeah but there's a Battle / Arena tab
you can assign cubes separately for pve (battle) and pvp (arena)
if i have resi for Battle, then bastion for Arena
if i equip Bastion for Arena, then do these units lose their cube for Battle?
no
ok very nice
let me change
try it but not from what I've seen when assigning cubes
wait no... pascal first shot is actually faster then the rest... 29 frames faster in 60 fps....
pascal op?
figuring out whether certain 2.5rl is actually good for casting 3rl b2 before 2rl b3
if calculation didnt went wrong, helm and emi has pretty much the same 3rl frame(gen) data, and both cant really deal with 2rl with good gen no matter their gen
but at least assuming everyone has some cs, both gurantees b1 cast before b3 since theres noticible advantage
nope, 2.833 sec + proj time isnt fast enough, rip pascal, unless cs matters
still clip RL at least
budget as much as it is
but for those adventerous enough still usefl
rip, cs doesnt matter, at least first tier cs doesnt
I've used a bunch of random units if I had pascal he'd probably have made it into a team at some point lol
if anyone has clips with at least 8 cs pascal somehow, id like to see it
tho i can just run alice with him ig
well more like clip sg... but slower then 5sg
@umbral belfry I'm literally rolling gacha pulls 10,000 meters in the sky in the middle of nowhere right now... This feels wrong
What sorcery is this
quick roll and get noah
That's what I was low-key thinking would happen 🥹 🥹
did you get her then?
No i got idoll LOL

oof
belorta awaits trust
It's ok I'll just do some nier shenanigans and have 10 tickets

Paging Sora paging sora
Actually I should drop 10 tickets on sora just because... What are the odds
The occasion calls for it
oh no... i've seen that before 
why stop at 10? go to 200 minimum 😛
oi, don't bring him to the dark side
That's not sora
at least the lad is positive thinking 
Wait is CA going right now, I didn't even get a chance to check
it are
Oh I'm 100% cooked then
if you didn't change teams it runs same as last time
Oh okay... In that case I'm also 100% cooked then
LOL
@umbral belfry @wet crystal I sent you two a social point from 10,000 meters in the sky... Use it well
safe travels
tell sora we said hi
tell sky we said hi also
Thank you
tell cielo, I had fun last night
tell noah we said not yet
I hope you both pull gold with that social point



finally i can use it myself against hime 

Which one is Cielo again 
sky
okay
this isn't about that 

exposed
by the pope


she's got the dog lead out, quick run!
I'd like to just emphasize the fact that every minute I'm messaging you guys 15-20km away from my previous message
Mind blown
time travel eh?
did you tell everyone hi yet
Cielo MIA

I tried to share the tea with Sora but she was just blinded so she's out of action for a while too
budget blanc spotted 
Wait how many nikke are you at
failed to pull her
I think I'm at 121 recruited after I buy pascal
the goat

i'm at 135 now 

Sheesh, and I helped you get a new one?! I count WIN
tix her?

trust your instincts @umbral crown
his instinct is pvp
remember who you are
it's over


its been a pleasure 
Isabel vs emma
Emma and bay are linked right?
I did some testing of P5 Biscuit vs P5 Rapunzel. Pretty much against a SG team, putting Rapunzel at P4 instead of P5 allowed a bit longer delay of Biscuit's death, and that slight delay could be enough to let Moran and Nero taunt and take the pressure off of Pr
why not bay
They should be stronger
not gonna roll atk on bay 
I should pair isabel with blanc to become moran nero destroyer
its ok you gonna win trust 
No u win
Pretty bad match
I got jackal and sbs now. Will that help me make a nasty team in pvp? 
How many wins in the league?
This can’t be. Really? No. That’s horrible.
LIGHT MODE DISCORD?!
I no longer know you 

I went to light mode for a meme and just was too lazy to swap back
Jackal is a big yes. SBS depends
Will I be using the purple scientist or neon? (She's taking up a synchronization slot)
I forgot your situation but you could run SBS + Blanc + Jackal and deliberately have them be linked. If you got fast enough gen speed, then SBS ends up indomitable killing most enemies
Just one example
both bad for pvp 
Think I've got folkwang and D too
Can show ur full roster, sorted by CP
Ones at bottom have no gear, can easily change that
1

Jackal, Blanc, Trina, Centi, SBS. You can try this comp in Rookie.
Enemy Shotguns shoots SBS? Linked, np.
Enemy shoots Jackal? Linked, np.
Enemy Siren stuns Jackal? Np, stun is too late.
Blanc won’t be linked, but w/e. SBS will get Indomitable.
Now it’s just whether your whole team is fast enough and SBS strong enough.
Congrats on an actually viable pvp team 
I thought neon has burst gen 
Centi Trina RH MaidPriv Drake
Rapi Siren Naga Raven Jackal
Auto
Rookie
Siren Jackal Trina Centi RH
clipSG i guess 
Ig your team lacks b3 burst
But it will be a different story if they get matched to a jackal team
It's okay. You can have the budget Sora, Pascal.
imma just tix sora and call it a day, do not feel like using pascal
Auto because I can't really make a solid team for third, or it will buff up my total power?
uwu
U want sora for pvp?
She has some uses but I don't think u wanna waste mileage on her
Save tix 
You might actually win this if Arcana survived until your burst ended.

yes, all i do is for pvp
Does anyone rmb MG shoots how many bullets in 2RL 
You have the better Sora, Rapu already. 
to C7 helm?
no, don't use your gold ticket to buy HelmT dupe. 
wait
It's reasonable to ticket Sora if you had any CA team with her in mind.
Otherwise, don't 
Sugar & Folkwang treasure surely 
Or if you just like her very much. 
We know Sugar will be there for sure. 
Moran and Ein, i trust their costumes.... Ribbon and dino
Maxwell treasure for pve then 
wheres shizuka and her mom 
not much
That's why it won't happen
I've seen her die many times in the league
We all know u are thirsty for Jaiko's ass.
Her OL level still lv3
also why does squad 1 have so little power? they all have armor
and rh is my strongest nikke
Did you remember to put Cubes on them for PVP?
When I redid my comps the numbers didn't look right for me until I remembered that
drake was the only one missing a cube lol
does each team have its own deficit
or does it go off overall power of all teams?
love to see it
taking my spot back, thanks
Each team has their own CP calculation.
You only need 2 teams for attacking. I just use product 12 by herself on the third team to speed up things.
can you easily swap teams around depending on who is defending?
you can rearrange teams
for example first team is power gapped, but you could easily do the other 2
I just put my product 12 against wherever the least desireable team to fight.
ohhh
thanks, I didnt know you could do that
People rearrange their defense teams to mess up people just attacking without bothering to look plenty.
And it only takes a second to do.
But you can rearrange your attack team just as quickly as stated.
as long as you're confident in your 2 teams, you don't need a third. a third is a hail mary if you think one of those teams might lose.
for attacking
is that why people say to do auto for third team?
I don't even do auto. Just throw in again product 12 who is a mg that will die nearly instantly.
It saves time.
auto teams attempts to cp gap the opponent. Works well at lower syncs
auto team on defense is still a bad idea. you can make better positioning at least if ur just cp gappin
wanna take a crack at positioning for me then? 
If ur not swapping any Nikke and just using that team
Moran > Rouge > Alice > Blanc > Mmast
But I can confidently say I do not like that team nor suggest it given that you have a few other options.
You have a biscuit, anis, 2b, sbs, rosanna, and privaty available in that pic
You can def do better than what you got imho
I don't really know how to make teams
I've attempted and got told it was incredibly slow

(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246)
You can use this here to help figure out how fast your teams will burst
For burst gen, in general:
RL > SG > SR >= AR > SMG > MG
There are exceptions to this from specific Nikke skills
So Mmast is probably terrible and she will never get multiple stacks anyways for arena.
P1 will get attacked first in most cases so you want your tankiest Nikke there most of the time.
P5 gets attacked first if they use a SR while attacking or if you attack a team that uses shotguns.
so I want moron or biscuit at p1
No, never put Biscuit at p1. You want a defender to block for her
The defender will gain invulnerability from biscuit when they lose enough HP
The only exception to this would be attacking a defense team that literally only has shotguns. 5 of em.
All of them would attack your p5.
Moran is a great p1 choice because she is a defender who is very tanky and because she is a burst 1, you should be able to avoid getting stunned by little mermaid as long as your burst gen isn't less than 3 RL.
3 RL just means the amount of time it takes for RL characters to attack with their rockets 3 times.
and achieve full burst
Moran biscuit teams can't go fast enough to ignore stun though 
Depends on the burst gen of the team overall. By themselves, they don't offer much burst gen tbh
More often than not it'll be the case
@tropic summit how did this happen?
is it possible to put a squishy sniper in p5 and put a rosanna in the team?
Rosanna should be either p3, p4, or p5.
actually im not allowed to use rosanna
she requires skill investment to kill stuff 😦
If she is P5, her conceal iirc will just cause a target skip
if she is in p1 or p2, she'll get hit by RL splash
p3 will also get splashed if there's a target skip on p1 or if there's an emilia or similar
Rosanna is a great helm/emilia killer, but I've learned to play around that.
Can't read left
scarlet, liter, trina, anis, jackal
Well you lose to Rosanna, that's why
delinked and/or killed by burst
how fast do you wanna be to avoid stuns?
2.5 rl for b1
slightly faster than 2 rl for b2
2RL for B1*
b3 will never burst fast enough unless LM dies to say Scarlet counterattacks
"1.9" RL for B2, yes
Or Scarlet reloads mag 
3RL B1 should be stunned no?
2.5 RL i think actually. my b
Exactly
Still stunned
im rusty with siren stuns 
I'm the only one allowed to spread misinfo 
Here's some misinfo for you guys
you can see how many abnormal vouchers you have in inventory
-# You can't
My Emilia team is 2.5 RL and Rumani still got her burst off, unless it's minute differences in CS just slightly faster than 2.5 but still not 2.
would this work? I'm just going 1 by one for the 5th to get 3rl but no luck
2 good teams, auto 3rd 
If you want Scarlet to die to splash
Today my 2.5 Moran biscuit had to burst with Rapunzel bc Moran got stun
oh, since I just got sbs I can just do 25 in overclock sim right 
2.5 rl with who
Helm treasure summer Anis
helm what cs
If only we didn't rely on archaic means of measuring speed.
18
I wish I got helm so I can daily dispatch for her items and not drakes 😦
You can also select random box 
Stack buffs, get them to be the same shape, and gold quality. Do that and you'll have a solid opportunity to do something
avoid any forced hard stage modifiers
u need 25 for that
use the misc box if you want a shot in the dark at getting her materials
is it worth if my only options are drake and exia
once u get her, obv switch to her
drake is a decent nikke, raids, missilis tower, and pvp and you have the event to get her setup.
exia treasure is only for raids
Nuh uh
U know 2.5 rl is not “2.5”
I mean 25 cs to not have b1 stunned
Tell that to him 
ur helm 18%?
21% might dodge Stun 

21 won’t, b1 cast the same frame of stun
I'll work on higher CS% later
need Max ammo on Rapi like right now
Faster than 2.5 but less than 2, but still shown as a "2.5". 
Misinfo 
2.5rl is a myth generally 
how does she work?
17cs is like 0.5 sec faster but 1rl is 38 frames
She nukes your attackers
hmm
And unlinks P1
time to invest in rosanna
2 nukes from burst. if she is concealed, the nukes hit harder. she also removes up to 5 buffs from Nikke which includes Jackal link or 2B bonus ATK.
and the saying of .5 rl align with sg gen, when the timeframe isn’t even close, yes misinfo for simplicity
Expensive 
ok so my scarlet team was
absolutely obliterated from the looks of that
If his rosanna didn't delink, the fact that your scarlet has a jackal and his doesn't, means you'd normally win.
But she does, thats her kit. so your scarlet is treated as if jackal doesn't exist
and bcuz ur scarlet is delinked, she'll likely die to the rosanna nuke to follow
What a big surprise that liter scar lose to Rosa scar
at least the rosanna doesn't get the conceal buff i'd imagine cope wise.
Kinda where scar s2 matters the most in this mu
And the very case where rosa siren wants their sr15…
I can do that
if Bay is typically p3 or p4 who is p1 and p2? and in that scenario if thats the case there would've been no way for me to know to have Bay p1 here then if I go by the comfy way 
Bay just wants to avoid P1/2 so that her cover doesnt get dmged 
huh, interesting 
i have everyone they had except for rumani, but my scarlet lost to their blanc redhood scarlet somehow
DOTA 
they have enough feed from you to reach 2rl. which would then be 3rl scar vs 2rl scar
if not 2rl (assumes when blanc died), then min 2.5rl
rip
scar didn't even live long enough to nuke
it's unwise to fight a scar mirror (esp vs a blanc scar)
hmm, then i can maybe use siren-scar to deal with the noah-anis team
yeah you made two mistakes here sadly 
- unwise to fight scar mirrors, esp when there's the risk of indom scar
- don't run sbs into noah-bisc teams. noan will be immune due to bisc's skill which means sbs will do no damage
See Noah, use Soda/Siren
See Scar, use Noah
See ShotGun, use Scar Jackal 
siren scar jack @ team 2 would do it
Hi, please help with rookie and special arena team, i have nikkes except these nikkes in the picture
Send full roster sorted by CP
something like this?
team 1... maybe need some help, or just give up team 1 and auto
moved helm from team 3 to team 2 with scar to get scar to 2RL, since helm wasn't making team 3 2RL anyways
it was indeed ok
Check for CP difference
T1: Noah Centi Cindy Thelm Noise
T2: Scar Trina RH Rumani Jackal
T3: Skip
CP is within 5%
But t3 was a Win tho, is it worth to switch it out?
or did i use too much resource to win t3?
dont have rumani*
Could keep T3, then use Scar Trina on T2
Can look at pins for Teams
yep i using this
Scar Siren/Soda Trina Helm.T/ClipRL Jackal (2RL)
just gonna run it once and call it a day
👏
see noah, stun. that ez.
do people still run shotgun comp? in S:P
prob run in champion
Not in SPA. Easily countered for Jackal

Why did I lose 
Opponent Helm snipes your linked units, RH dies
Im not happy with the results of this fight
I'm really admiring people who still try hard on pvp in this game, it's so damn CP demanding, imagine left game 1 or 2 days already lose against others... what inspiration helps you guys moving on?
Other modes are too boring
true
getting bored, and/or challenge, but it is indeed problematic, tempting to make you swipe, the troubleshooting and debugging.. tbh other pvp games are better
It gets somewhat better at higher syncs. At lower syncs, gear, bond, Ol stats affect CP a lot
still, just try to see what's best can achieve for the nikkes
Only liberalio can save this game
When release?
2077
Nikke EoS
to beat some people and have fun, so you see how they make new comps and try to keep their spots
Says Rosy where no one has attacked u in months 
The best thing about pvp is prob the fact that you can always learn something… since things can get very specific very detailed… I just can’t bother to study pve mode the same way
It’s easier to get into pvp now with how many books u can get daily to eventually lv everything to lv7 and still have leftovers
just be like Rosy 
Weak
not gonna burn all resources on solo raid for the chance to get in top200 jp
All that just to waste rocks and gears on dps that can only be used once or twice… what a waste
Well maybe doing both pvp and sr is possible in other servers… maybe I’ll be strong minded malder there
but a boi tried 15 days ago after 2 months

bro is enjoying 421 boost in C6
let me log to check
@quick lake 
Bro got 421 and has a bit more cp than me at 395 but just wait for 401 to pass him again 

But RM keeps beating him uwu
Bring me to your server 
to log just to collect gems
Scar Trina Anis Siren Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Thelm Noise
Blanc SBS Biscuit laplace Rumani
Rookie: Scar Trina Siren THelm Jackal
OL Trina Rumani xMaiden
Trina 4/10/4
xMaiden 4/10/4
LaplaceT 4/10/4
Can refer to pins for other team ideas 
rosanna broke jackal link at 1RL, scarlet died early
how can i prevent it
you don't, rosanna is direct counter to jackal and to linked attackers
you can mitigate it maybe with revive units
scarlet mirror are cancer anyway
ok so I take a loss for that one? which team can I use to counter it?
scar-rosanna teams are weak to noah biscuit + defenders or the usual bay
3rl moran bay does it work or
you're gonna get nuked on 3RL moran
are you trying for 3 wins?
use either of these 2
a third one that doesn't use helmT in case
anis can be either centi or trina if you need the CP
This Huyhn mate really wanted to smash into a wall
because he knows I'm bricked
🧱
2 wins
then what are you struggling for
just pick 2 counters 
if you need help post matchups
im not on rn ill send you their team later
oke
for now yeah, seems a game although you'd easily burn out on
the grinding is no joke
oh yeah welcome to cygames gacha
cygames gacha is without a doubt the worst to grind
trust me the longer you play the worse it gets esp for a powerpoint gameplay gacha like this one
hey can i get a screenshot of the pvp meta teams?
is noah, jackal, biscuit, helm and scarlet a viable team or do they not work well together, if they are viable what positions should I put them in or does it not matter
Check pins for teams
Generally:
Scar Trina flex flex Jackal
Noah paired with Cindy
The many menus in the tutorial of that game just threw me off. 
I came to watch horse girl racing not looking at the status windows half the day. 
@tropic summit
else refer to #pvp-arena message
helm is 16%, noah is 18%
it's viable but also a waste, because you're not buffing scarlet enough, while noah is stalling but without DPS or gain behind it, as scarlet is a nuke type and less of a DPS type
in a sense it can still work although, you may run it as the pic attached
yeah it's not a gameplay type for everyone i guess 

biscuitless noah should be punished and the scar-ros is a nobrainer
the moran team can be punished by RH on dbl buff
let's take the easier approach and deal with T2 and T3 i guess
hmm
for T2 you want to avoid killing anis before you hit 2RL
because rosanna will sacc
running 3 RL units + 2SR should prevent it
for T3 it's a matter of overpowering them with DPS
hmm, any ideas?
where's your box?
noah against rheir scarlet could work, and scarlet siren will work fine for team 3
gimme a minute
4 unfortunately
since I'm temporarily done with pve contents
quantum 7 is what I'll be aimjng for this UR
is opponent running any weird 2.5RL?
e.g. on T1 and T3
as i'm assuming this is what you're fighting
they're all awfully close to hit 2.5RL
minus scarlet that's guaranteed 2RL via sacc (in fact a tad faster)
either way you could brute force it
weird? they either run 3 or 2
ye with CS%
that dude LIKELY copied someone else's team because he does not have enough brain capacity for something like this
then i'll assume they don't
this is one option, record it just to find out if they do run CS%
who's attacker and who's defender
wantme to record horizontal or vertical
doesn't matter, as long as it's watchable 
oh
move siren to p3 and trina to p2
on the wild chance they actually run noise taunt priority
Does this answer which is which? 
attacker is on top and defender is on bottom, or if side to side, attacker is left and defender is right, just post the bracket view and i can confirm which is why
ZETAZ98 is attacker & RIZNA is defender in that case.
I didn't know, but now I do. Thanks 
wut happened to the vid 
kek same outcome @tropic summit
great minds think alike 
check match history, did it at least go through?
Yeah, I win
Give him 2 hours or less he'll attack again
either way what probably happened:
T2: anis dies, rosanna saccs, aims for helmt and noah: helmt dead, noah invulnerable, you burst, they ded
T3: noah stunned, you burst, wipe most of the team minus if not all 1hitko, finish right after whoever lived as they're without noah shield
Thank you for the analysis. 
Thank you for checking as well.
Very likely, my scar is strong enough to ohko everything that doesnt have a survivability passive or active in their kit
She is sr15 after all
Now back to the coal mine (heaven burns red)
have fun 👋
Will report in if something happens
Very likely he's gonns lose 3/4 times before being able to flip me or switch back to his old team

There's only one true Zeta

Hi Tuna 
3rd place moved after 1 year of just sitting there. 
Time to vote for losers this time 
You are CP bricked so it's not helping

Even if your bracket is super casual they would notice sth wrong about that after a year
And just normal attack over your 2 teams
They didn't touch the usual top place for whatever reason.
Maybe because they couldn't normal attack him.
nah some ppl just sleep on the ladder
i've some similar cases in my bracket, whale who could easily topple just hangs on lower ch
now whether they're just failing to auto or to look up on google how to use noah remains a good question
Yeah they sleeping but not if your CP so low they could just quick battle you with their preset team disregard counter or shit. 
if i look at their rookie teams, they could auto but for some reason they just 
i think they've enough gems to not give a f about climbing the ladder
Rookie team doesn't work that way. They just put out their highest CP. 
that's what i'm telling you, they've campaign teams that would obliterate proper teams by sheer CP advantage
which you can see from rookie
Their SPA x3 could be much lower cp.

good lord you're exhausting 
It's you
believe it or not there's ppl who have 0 interest in pvp even if they could actually compete
personally rarely attack anymore. if I lose a single defence then i just give it to them
There are. Those guys just set 3 random teams and quick battle when they have time. Their team in rookie is their highest CP.
They don't interesting in waking up and stare at the board just to snipe you. Or hit back but if they bother enough to open Arena some day and hit you then your bricked CP will just lose. 
and that's what i just said
And no, they dont bother to auto 3 highest CP team either. It's just their random shit they set up. 
auto and pray for the best [c] Rosy
When will fav item s4 arrive?
Like I said, rookie is their highest CP but SpA they don't have that x 3. 
if you look at current season timer, it should be at next event
when they've 70 levels ahead and campaign team + kraken team they can probably 2 auto 
literally click on auto and run the team
it's just that they give 0 f about arena, which is reasonable since they probably gain so much gems they could make a swimming pool with them
But they don't care enough about arena to know 
Some people just cope teams from guide which units they don't build and doesn't know deficit exist.
absolutely right
copy paste from whoever teams seem to work
or see a few vids on youtube and be like "oh i can run that, done"
Look at their DEF team CP. Their atk team probably the same. 
So it will be around august 
Nice
the current fav item season box in shop doesn't last much longer
so after 10d maybe a small gap and then we get the next season ones?
HelmT-level Maxwell please, tyvm.
as long as it's not crow's treasure
haha wow, max stack nero is something else
@umbral belfry looks like prediction was on point
another nero win although close call 
if it was indom scar maybe it would've won instead
wdym by max "stack" Nero ?
damage reduction
My team survived once
read her kit
alright yeah
I need new def team
yeah I did that was just to make sure :p
who gave you that s.anis team btw?
french to english so
💀 myself ig?
i didnt ask for champion arena teams since its a hassle to ask u or someone to help me create 5 entire teams
unbelivable 
it's hard counter tho
SG team can melt p1 and p2 pre burst, especially if 3RL
oh alright
the team per se isn't bad, the matchup sure is
gl 
I'm not even salty I'm glad you won your bet 
and i feel bad because i dont think i can last any longer , since i only care about the bet
and yeah rumani died too fast
"his" bet 
it's like every 2 week and I hard invest pvp so I guess my time will come dw
go get that frame
@umbral belfry when your nero does this you're ready

if it was rh instead on siren..
yeah xD
then they'd have B2'ed
doesn't matter much if nero burst. it only add to her personal dmg
hopefully this time it happens 💀
make sure it will by sharing the matches here
@wet crystal ah ah ah 
for top 4 it become tricky tho
as soon as i saw a defenseless p1 noise i knew what had to be done 
cuz ppl start to have very good invest
me next ca
i try but sometimes its hard because well , *the anticheat for nikke takes like 40% of the cpu on its own 💀 *
soon nero debut
just to make sure, even SR15 with 4 def line, rapu would have never survived scarlet + trina + siren right ?
Here's how it went for me b4 you noticed
shouldnt that then replace the summer anis team that i have in pvp?
hold on summer anis is a sg

soda 
CA and SParena aren't the same thing
guaranteed stun on both noise and noah in p1 
Like i thought
I get beaten up by hobo
call it a hunch but i feel like im striking rail's nerve whenever i say something that sounds dumb in pvp lmao @umbral belfry
5-0
Yo jawdrop, send me eve live wallpaper 
I don’t know I just got here
I fail to get that 
SR15 max core with temperance very likely survives that
even more so if team is running 2.5RL with moran in it
or noise
😭 nah you're good
I got through 4-1. did nuri win then?
yes
nvm checked , my it already has 3 sg lol
what was the final result? I had some predictions
i think team 1 and 4 lost from what i understood
2 3 and 5 won
team 1 won because nero full stacks
Nice
my matches:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQS64Md6dwA
Thanks buddy
match 2 was over so quickly lol
time to get get one more spot on my temper cube 
match 3 they landed indom on Rumani 😄
for pvp temperance is one of the most important afterall
then let's go
can prevent rosanna 1hitko, can save you from scarlet nuke... etc
I was too much focused on vigor..
vigor is fine on healers or to play with indom priority
I m a bit hybrid pve too so I try to level up my bastion cube
Vigor and Tempering should have similar value if you don't have doll investment or no noise/moran. If max doll, Tempering a bit better.
SPA gv gems. CA just shiny frames 
yeah indeed but it's what I should focus but since I ve became leader of my union I want the result on my 3 team too 
this more or less tracks what I thought, I basically said (from jaw perspective) with 5 being caveat on cindy bursting or not
W
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plus I tend to push the more I can to be on point with core gain
damn alright 
yeah I push campaign + pvp mostly atm
my raid units suffer a bit but I can live with that for now
yeah , for me i didnt rlly understand bc i dont have an idea what nero does anyways
it's hard to focus on both, game isn't build for honestly lmao
better garantee that 2700-3000 gems than getting like 100-300 extra gems from the raid
To rank in CA, gotta gv up PvE. If just SPA, can do both decently alright
any bets on my next matches? I'm def/top. team 5 could be 2.5RL for both if they have some CS
what im doing is mostly i have a stable team for campaign and just building for pvp, *not bc ca but bc i have the mafia in my bracket but thats beside the point 💀 *
actually I can't invest on both indeed, I had to make a choice between invest my carry or CS on my RL, I did chose to report the CS invest..
team 1 - I may win depends how well my stall survives SBS indom as it's 2RL
team 2 - I should win this given ros invest + faster team, their P5 Noir is garbage also
team 3 - I don't see how I lose this one
team 4 - 2RL scarlet into 2RL scarlet but I have jackal link and in theory a bit more speed, should win it?
team 5 - 2.5RL cindy into 2.5RL (or 3RL) Cindy. anyones guess?
How come moran nero lose to cindy
@wet crystal you gotta stop getting hard counter matches 😭
yeah I m fine for campaign too, it's just the fact that I have only 2 really good team for UR and not 3 
isn't moran in an odd pos in p4?
I guess win 2/3/4. If ur T1 Nero SR15 + Temp, more likely u win
3-2 or 4-1 for you, might even be 5-0 because in T5 you've more DPS, although opponent has more stall
UR?
nero is yes 🙂
moran is only on r-15 here
Union Raid
thanks chaps kind of along my thinking, that would yeet me into top 16 then if I do 🙂
wait yall build for union raid?
kinda. Eventually u specialise in certain elements
you're going champ, my last disciple who still didn't win champion
then i can rest in pieces
I build only campaign + pvp and can keep up on all things so far except raids
in my SPA I have the furthest campaign progress atm, though 2nd highest sync
Oh does it matter?
I think if I get past this phase and zant does we face off in the top 8
@tropic summit
What happ?
I'm just assuming due to her taunting, but I can't say for sure?
simply because he has all c7 with gigacracked OL lines 
better to send via nikke deck
you got a hard matchup against jasche i fear 
Hì I want to ask if one my Newbie team can win against Haruto
did he change or same teams?
xdddde

communicating with my union is impossible 💀
he changed, see the centi?
Oh ok
there might be hope 
Better union time 
Its okay, i can check for u now
such a coincidence he knew you countered with siren, almost as if he's in this chat 
see how he failed once
i told you he is completely braindead
even if he's here it doesnr matter
I think nero is slightly slow burst so they died
and i knew his discord acc
my bro is b1 with RH not Ros 
he could be reading this as we speak 
I m union leader so
even if they know I focus on pvp, I have to do decent result
@umbral belfry also what is indom? yall keep saying moran indom blanc indom ,my grandma's indom, what is that 
blanc indom is the key
check her skills, she makes the lowest hp unit immune for 10 seconds
the only matters is moran burst, and yea nero is fire so its over vs emi helm 
Newbie should win T1. Possibly T2 is Newbie has high cs lines. Possibly T3 is Nero SR15
just run PVP units in raids
solo biscuit 
don't let rail see you asking this
Thank u

but it's just as hippo said

something tells me my union is 💀 doomed

how does your bay look like
I was laughing my ass off at all the cat noises in that fight 😄
there is a reason i asked u and not rail mf
lmao
he saw it's too late 
@oak gale
I can't 101010 nero moran
No yellow skill book
my bay is missing head, all OL, sr15
good enough
Check vid btw see if they're 2.5
weak rosa 
oh lmao
Sr0?
He literally put his noah and pray my siren stuns centi to trigger noah
i think he assumed you'd run siren because he's reading this chat
Like completely braindead player with money still not winning shit
Well my defense was running siren lul
...well that's downright sad 



Btw thinking about 17%ing another nikke
Any recommendations, do i have to actually hit 17% or what
15% is enough frame wise
Perfect
8/11/15 wherever u wanna stop
So, Anis/Centi is the candidate?
centi sounds good
I'll working on her then
I get my 15% quite fast tbh it takes like 4-5 rocks

And im getting 15 per week
lucky 
Sometimes


busted
I hit Ultra all it does is giving me rocks instead of headgear for Bay
goons
Kara in main cord 
Kara 
I saw a LOT of ppl doing this and going soda + 2 rocket launcher in scar team, is this the way?
awakened him with the power of centi's assets
Was checking if your sg killed rapu

that's today's match sir
but i still have faith 
Hope my rotation goes back so I can actually fight in a playable CA
free star
That is indeed what a lot of people are using
Something like this
I am still stuck and I lost 0-3 in my qualifief
give emi 
jackaless scar-soda and soda in p2... that's wild 







