#pvp-arena
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o true...if i swapped anis and jackal what would the order for the cindy comp look like? cant have noah in p5 with anis in the comp
I mean you could just do Scarlet p1, she has 2s invin from Trina. Not guaranteed she won't die but better than Soda at least
Almost an exact copy of previous CA winners 
Idk if Noise is linked or not for the Jackal burst gen
since that will affect whether you want to keep her on that team or not
give up

yeah she is. im just gonna swap scarlet to p1 and keep anis in the comp. ideally i like soda in p1 to avoid any potential siren shenanigans but at this point its w/e
I don't think you can put Noah p5 since she probably dies to defending SGs, linked LapT should be better
aite. i still have basically no idea how SG comps work lol
Pepper p1 is also probably better, it's better for her to die and Ros bursts than for Drake to die
not too sold on the Anchor, having 1 less SG might make it hard to kill anyone pre-burst but Idk if you have Viper or not
oh right...yeah i guess i could do naga
Guys what is a good PVP team for a dumb person?
I pretty much have every character so like what should my team look like?
There are so many guides and so many opinions 😭
ok so its a good pvp team for a nikke player
i really like this 2rl scar/trina. no one in my bracket seems to have found a consistent counter to it yet with linked soda in p1
461!!!!!!! Holy smokes lmao. How long have you been playing this game?
ironically enough i think i started playing during the first nier event lol...
the biggest counter to this is a noah
and siren
unfortunately nobody has pulled this move out of their ass yet
what does siren do against it? 👀
Mermaid doesn't stun fast enough to beat Soda, and Noah loses to Soda
it should be beatable by 2RL Rosanna
Scarlet will unlink and get one-shot
...Don't tell me I have to OL OG Soda now... Just when I was about to finish with PVP units T_T
honestly the best strategy against a team like this is
to ultimately copy and paste it
soda needs to die before she gets to burst and she is not linked from the looks of it
Is Sora new unit for PvP?
How about <some non-Red Hood dps>/Blanc/<something>/<something>/<something>/ to 2RL?
P1 dps gets hurt, soda stuns for 1 sec, by the time Scarlet bursts, Blanc should burst and put invul on dps in P1?
No
you know you do.
I said no
Yes, another healer option
Blanc 2 RL is hard to convey 
A worse Rapu in most case.
If only they made her cleanse 2 or more debuff. I wouldn't have Skipped her.
1: There's a chance Blanc gets stun
2: no they'll burst in synch, Blanc with Trina in that case
Or if she was burst 2
I see Echo is on his Exp farming mode.
I don't want to have to level Soda now... 
I did already 
burst 2 and she is worse than trash.
And only managed to get 1 attack line on her 
At this rate I'll never OL my pve units...
2RL Bay/Blanc will only beat Soda like 60% of the time, Ros nuke should be the only one that is consistent
Don't overload soda then
Then CP too low.
I mean don't use soda yet
But me wants to win!
But you're winning
You're on top 10
You and others 62
@swift mango not really you missed the selector. You'll get an SSR on initial roll but it could be any of the standard 6. If you don't mind re-rolling a bit you can get her but it's 1/6 chance and if unlucky could take a while
Last time was absolutely awful. My best team - Scarlet ofc, got deleted by a team that shouldn't have ever had a chance against it. SG team. My P5 and 4 were just erased.
Same 
And they're all invested! Guess I'll be saving for... what's it's name... Tempering cube now. You get termpering cube, you get tempering cube, EVE-RI-BODY gets a tempering cube!
Yes, I do 
Here's another tempering cube user you need to meet
<@&946725432554836008>
nuked
I just got Rapunzel, should I use her somewhere? Any useful skill of the units in my current pvp teams is level 7+, is using her worth it?
scar/trina really needs to be 2rl, way too easy to beat otherwise
We are totally in hell @loud sonnet 


Is it michel?


damn Michel always
thx
Blood, how big was the update
1.3g or sth

maybe less, I updated many games today, but no less than 800mb
I don't have golden brick for you. It's double event so you lose double ofc

2B ass takes too much space.
there's something large beneath, something you cannot expect
someone cook pvp teams pls i just got helmT
1v1 and 3v3 ?
both please
Rookie (pick w/e option suits you)
- siren scarlet trina flex jackal (flex any unit on high CP that does not steal jackal link from siren) (stun + nuke, can be 2RL via feed)
- centi trina cindy helmt siren (2RL)
- naga liter cindy helmt sbs (3.5RL, CP pad version)
SP arena
siren scarlet trina noir jackal
naga rrh cindy centi helmt
cp pad
quantum on trina, noir, jackal
vigor/temperance naga
temperance siren
any other nikke run w/e high lvl cube available
notes: invest in CP on the marked nikke in attached SS
notes2: aim for table to the right once CP is better invested in said units
no nero the anne is fine for team helm
the enemy you facing is a smurf or is being tutored well, he's running nasty T2 and T3 for that synchro 
thank you
=))))))
are there any particular nikke that are nice vs the 2 and 3 comps?

rapi pvp is bust 3
oh
hmm no she'll be b1 if none exist
bust 1 only on pve
nope
she is B1 unless dispelled by Rosanna 
so rapi is the burst 1, completely forgot about that since I only use her for pve
yeh
you could try changing approach, opponent either got used to your teams or they know what they doing, at synchro 389 it generally gets difficult defending against equal invested opponent, simply because attack is way easier than defense and an attack failure is generally opponent's mistake
that said, you can try changing approach and see if opponent takes the bait, start with this one
T1: turn into 2RL, you can run either as screenshot or add biscuit to the equation for less powerful nuke but better stalling
V1: noise rumani cindy helmt noah (non siren weak if noise has taunt priority)
V2: noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani (siren weak, adds stalling with biscuit)
**T2: **turn into essentially 2RL promotable scarlet nuke + siren linked stun (this one is aimed to counter opponent if running noah taunt priority, in any position)
T3: SG pressure with snowball, weak to biscuit locked teams
based on what you got, there's still multiple defense variations you can take
your nero moran team can be effective on SParena but it needs heavy investiment and you need to run it 2.5RL with CS%
other approaches you could take if this fails:
(1)
2RL indom
2RL scar-siren
3RL generic nuke or nero/moran
(2)
2RL stall
2RL indom
cp pad
(3)
2RL scar + rosanna
2RL indom
3RL stall
@swift mango how was your journey on finding the best husbando so far
Not much I just log in a little a day. 
so it's not particularly addicting 

Wait what
alright ty boss! team helm / moran was already 2.5rl with my cs invest, but yeah probably
I'll do the siren change right away, but idk for sg team cuz it's the very last investment I have to do for CA haha, missing few OL but I'll definitly try once it's one 
yes he's doing it
don't run SG team if it's low invest then, rather just do 2.5RL stall or any 2.5RL anti nuke
helm was in cinderella team before I started switch recently to try this team
if you do run noah or bay, make sure they're 2RL
before I had this too: (let me find the screen)
I had this defense for a very long time cuz only the top 3 was able to pass me with
Is Laplace Treasure investment worth it purely for PvP?
Or is it not as necessary if u got other good DDs?
Right now I only have Scarlet and Cinderella as top DPS, but today I got Laplace, so I'm contemplating using silver mileage to start treasuring her too, but not sure if that's silver mileage well spent.
Also .. how do u even get Anis Summer?
was running last summer
Not again .. ??
as for laplace, it is worth for a few reasons:
-iron offburst (deals good dmg against elec units, particularly scarlet, noise and even cindy)
-clip SG burst gen but doesn't feed
-can be filler B3 on very specific scenarios, but works best as offburst or battery
Hm. I see. So in terms of silver mileage .. I know u can't get all bodies from it, but u can get Laplace. So what else would I be holding my Silver mileage for?
I feel like Laplace is definitely one of the top investments for silver, together with HelmT .. but I have HelmT maxed already.
helm treasure, drake treasure and laplace treasure are the most worth it for pvp
followed maybe by viper phase 2, as an overall stat boost for her (do not bring her to phase 3 or she gets her burst bricked for pvp)
I have DrakeT, HelmT ..
No Viper or Laplace. Anything else? I wont regret spending 400 silver right now on Laplace?
maybe SU releases a broken treasure unit down the road? who knows
as of right now, laplace has usage
for pve purposes, you can also ask that question in #questions , for pvp purposes i can say she's useful
personally using her in rookie, sparena and CA
Gotcha.
SR15 Noise or Rapun now ? 🤔 Or simply wait new treasure
@jagged mesa I did an additional chomp to your ankles sorry
had to test something. I won't attack you after reset 
hime villain arc soon? 
SR15 noise is a safe choice
SR15 rapu for your 2.5RL nero moran is also a good choice tho
alrighty ty 
in general in nero moran stall teams you want nero moran (if possible) and rapu to live, you can afford losing helmt
Issok u dont need to apologize LOL
Our rookie bracket is super dead anywaya
although helmT on temperance and SR15 generally survives even against ele weak
yeah that's why, rosa told me before, maybe I'll do Rapun to chill a bit with this team invest and then focus on Noise / Bay
need to up my temp cube 
only 3 slots 
we're all asleep 
why you doing collusion 

during a2 pulls trust
Mine’s delta
https://comick.io/comic/00-become-the-lord-of-cthulhu
Reading this manhua so not much time to try new games.
mihara keeps tagging along with another pilgrim every time I roll
@swift mango Sora bad yes?
this time it was 
What’s the counter for this team?
I prefer to call her mid. But she is good if you don't invest in CS.
Keripo might be able to make her meta.
Oh boi
yeah
She’s basically lessgen xmica but dosnt feed, and she heal instead of damage buff then
Try a rosana to try to yeet scarlet and helm?
bay works wonders here
alternatively a noise + noah with noise taunt priority
alternatively again a 2RL indom
pick ur poison, counters are on the left
T1 requirement:
-linked helmT, SBS and jackal
-helmT and jackal have more HP than SBS (force with vigor if needed)
-prefer running blanc with temperance to cover for bad RNG against scarlet s2
T2 requirement:
-just invested units, nothing much else
T3 requirement:
-noise taunt priority (must've at least 4% less CS than Noah, use adjutant cube if needed to enforce that)
Sora and 11% CS 2rl Noah team 
what are the odds ppl have already rolled sora and/or have 11% CS noah... 
give them easier solutions
bay 4/4/4 with 2OL is the best budget clear for that matchup
Kinda wanna max Centi for Waifu reasons, does she do better in PVP when higher than 4/4/4?
4/4/4 is all you need, anything more is sort of a waste of resources
what gives CP the most is rolling high OL%
3 lines + blue/black for cherry on top
Skill and Doll still give lots of CP. 
The only reason Rosy that high CP
we're not telling to throw 10/10/10 on a non PvE core unit are we
i can understand PvP core B3s
but batteries... 
Oh I know it’s a bad ROI, she just deserves it lol.
Noah worth the 1010 on skill 1-2
So do Jackal s1. 
well you can do that for waifu value i guess 
And maybe it sets her up to be ready for a future Fave Item. inhales hopium

If you burst with her and RH buffed so might be able to kill a 20% HP scarlet
A guy can dream.
Good to know about Noah and Jackal though. My PVP needs an overhaul. Still need to pull Mana and Rumani as well.
Make her burst wipe for 20000% 
Any cookie cutter teams resource for CA?
Oh, the trillion of polygons 
Eve, Raven, Sora, 2B, A2
in the pins
Ah I see thank you

I hear moran burst with full sr15 team is able to tank scarlet burst with trina buff. How common is this?
Common enough with Trina buff only
Like, skipping a good B1 buff (like with Siren)
Fair enough
you know what else is common echo?




3 pvp teams you might reccommend? :3 I have been outside the game for more than half a year
Blanc skin 229 synch on 2025
200 levels deficit

What's you have in sight for attack, diamond 10?
What level is top 50 guy
Yeah I don't play everyday, got a life you know haha
counter for this please?
im thinking of 2rl scar - 2nd but idk what about the 3rd 🤔 this soda seems menacing, never actually fought her in arena and dunno what's the best counter to this
So once a week 
p2 soda can be taunted by noah, making her 100% stun noah.
as long as you don't run noah and don't taunt her, it's RNG on 2 random targets
I don't know, whatever I can achieve. In reality I planned to take advice on 3 PVP teams to make an idea about the actual meta. I don't plan on being a top player with those levels
so if i use noise + noah that's a stun for noise + noah?
🤔 wtf do i use then
No, not really
t1 and t2 are easily counterable
Blood and me have saw only the slowest taunter gets stun
Give 7 minutes, have to Speedrun events
Almost miss solo raid 
emi t1?
T1 is a stall oriented team, you can either aim for 2 rotation team or a DPS team with s.anis and RH
T2 is weak to rosanna or a stall team 1RL slower than the enemy with noah
T3 has RNG so i'd avoid it, although per se it's weak to 2RL noah or bay, can also be weak to 2RL indom
So, this is worthless? I'm going to ask for story meta in the other channel then. Got like a bazilion boxes but don't want to waste them without pushing levels
your chances of climbing are screwed over by the progression gap due to inactivity
Well, 200 levels sounds like it can't improve from minimum reward on SP
Such an amazing game hahaha
Ignore it then, will jump to solo game
you can run these 2, the 3rd team you're best filling it with high CP leftover units
to have still a chance, you need to invest in the following and raise them:
-helm treasure
-jackal, biscuit, noah, cinderella
you lack also good B3 options, getting SBS up to par will help in pve and pvp
wishlist siren and scarlet aswell
Great thanks!
Hi there i see you have some sort of excel sheet
is there one that i can use?
and see what type of pvp teams can i make?
you can use this phone friendly app:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
else sheets are here:
#pvp-arena message
for reference, some solid teams ideas:
#pvp-arena message
guys, I think this person wants my rank 
praying for purple RL dolls from SR 
do you not have a stack of the chose purple dolls?
I have 11 chose one rewards that I havent bothered to use yet
no, this is only my 7th SR or something? Already used them all
why are you sleeping at 6th? go for 1st
A thank you
should give you these then, don't need them lol
SR and AR doll, this game fails me 
tbh, I cba trying to fight for top positions i barely have enough time to do my dailies for my whale and f2p accounts
recently barely had enough time to do that
you're not attacking anyway may as well well burn your attacks
especially if you can climb a bit
could probably take a top 3 spot if i wanted but im ok for now
fair enough
time to go get some dolls
SMG, AR, RL are good for me
damn SR 😄
ok SMG at least something
Ah, wait up, blanc appears twice in the teams
the blanc in T1 is noah apologies
just swap her 
remember to buy 1 copy of Pascal for CA if you are baby bracket 
buy out the shops anyway 

well yeah but you have to buy one copy today to be in time for team creation 
not to ruin your dream, but you still need to win team order RNG
nah you got this
im struggling to actually make a counter to t1
does sanis rh team needs noah?
sopa in ca 
7 minutes are long done, help the lad out
i've to train horse girls

@keen vapor he's gonna help ya
Is Sora any good for PVP or skip?
budget rapunzel, get 1 copy but not pvp core unit
skip it is.
you need 5 teams buddy 
buy Pascal from Nier collab shop
welcome to the ca!!
l'll just make the rest 2 fillers 
too broke for 5 team
check pins for inspiration, aim for 3 or 4 well formed teams, 5th can be ultra cope
2RL noah
2RL helm/noise/bay
2RL (via feed) scar-jack
3RL generic or indom
ultra cope
No Noah No Noise/Bay 
Im omega cooked
alrighty 2 or 3 well formed teams it is 
Id aim for 3 solid teams and hope to get bots in your bracket
2 team it is 

getting rascal
I used neon when I didnt have enough units 
I used Neon and Product 23 
it is kind of nice but there is still a pretty big diff between naked lv400 and invested lv400 
naked sg + rosa comp vs invested sg + rosa comp 
Better than 221 vs sync 400 
you too 
why they gotta make the Nier log in tickets pay out on day 20, I want to pull now 
and cope for Noah
i've 2 big dreams
playing the hacking minigame takes me back to playign the actual game
good times
a classic
🍿
had to blow myself up, for science 
ladders + 2b
totally worth it 
just won with spe week today, after 4 try, she was one of the hardest so far
with teio
i've been running 7-9* spd stocked quirks legacies and best i got so far is a 2* spd
i just want a 3* spd 

but it's ok then i remember i can just put BAKUSHIN OST on 24/7
and i regain my insanity
lmao
Is this fine?
if Pascal dies you don't got a B1 
blanc does not generally survive 3RL in p1
put your blue unit or noir in p1 and assume they die in 3RL, then blanc can stay p2 or your indom target be p2
your b1 and b2 should always avoid being p1 or p2 unless you've tools to protect them, e.g. defenders with biscuit or revives with rapu and mana
the exception are tanks like moran ofc
Moran 
Honestly I should use some of my gems and pull for units 
My Roster is looking very depressing for this CA
pray rng blesses you with bots in league

that could be sopa 


I was gonna give Raven some love but tested it a few times and felt so clunky as opposed to just slotting RH
Just checking; it says "please finish forming your team" on special arena, after i clickeded "save" after setting up the 5 teams, it should be good, right?
yes
Coolbeans, yeah thought that it's just a general "remember" 😄
if you change your cubes again or w/e then you need to save again
Well, i might not get any further than last time, BUT, SA is a great reminder on "Oh right, i haven't upgraded Liters skills in ages" 😄 Just dump it all and start saving again.
watch it be 3 lvl 600 commander lvl
You guys already got in?
Our CA didnt even start yet
starts tomorrow
the highest commander levels are usually mid 400 ish for the baby bracket
you get to see who you're fighting against in a group of 4 for league
Sweet
if you advane you go to top 64 (where you can cheer)
True endgame; tryig to get "cheer all rounds wrong" 😄
no u
@shell hazel lock in this time you cooked great teams 
I've flipped teams about a few times tbh, I'll send what I went with after lock in o'clock
shuffle them like it's poker
most CA are won at team ordering 
true, still, invest counts for a bit also
but my top 8 all looked fairly well invested also, so not like a bunch of noobs 😛
Do i win?
left side is running their only B1 in p1, right side non-treasured helmt and ultra slow
although, your left side team is on deficit, but you've biscuit locked team
-# cp-deficit
Now if I can hold the position is the question
HelmT is a big boost to my pvp tho
HelmT is a game changer
if opponent is silly yes, if opponent knows how to do math, your weakest team gets CP padded and your second weakest gets scarleted/noahed
Yeah my helmT cook is only 3rl
Speaking of, if I send roster would yall like to help me build 2rl rookie team?
go for it
you don't need much for 2RL with HelmT in the mix
Ik I need to put rumani in sync
this is basically 2RL with anything in last 2 slots
I dont have scar
scar isn't there
Yeah but trina is
centi / trina swappable for battery
your centi is way too far down the list
you also have trina I see here as well
Will we be getting pascal from event?
you do but pascal sucks to build especially for rookie/spa
I figured id need for ca eventually
you should build centi/trina more they're core pvp batteries
nah you don't need for CA, can use but not required
Im going to, but I still have to finish building campaign
only really useful if you lack rumani or jackal
Which i have both of

trina doesn't need scarlet to work it's just a bonus effect
Yeah i gotta put her in sync, I got her very very recently
trina and centi are two high burst gen b2 units capable of being batteries on any team
rrh helmt blanc trina jackal, 2RL indom RRH (DPS AoE indom oriented, requires RRH with decent ammo OL% and some atk%)
helmt naga rh bsoda jackal, 2RL heavy on CP, anti-link attacker nuke oriented with sustain
noah biscuit helmt rh jackal, 2RL lower CP but with stalling and sustain together, anti-link and attacker nuke
Rh i dont think has ammo but has 30% attack
another option is the usual 2RL cindy
doubles down with noah stalling on biscuit s2s
and ofc anti nuke
i'd say try these 4 out and see whoever manages to hold def better
2rl Cindy would work nice cuz Ill have her full ol soon
she's high enough up your list she'd work as a primary nuker anyway
main thing is her burst firing off though I like to noise buff her
The middle team in the first pic tho is probably my best bet tho
The cp drops pretty drastically, with siren having over double anyone past manchor
a 5th option would be a siren + single target nuke option with also anti nuke
keep in mind this team will push p1 and p2 to shoot in p3, so it has its down sides
there's more, but they'll be worse than these
rail does siren extra burst gen add a bit extra to RL speed in reality?
like if you're 99% 3RL will her skill up that to 100% before 3RL?
if you're 99% it means you're hitting 2.005 circa RL
as you'll be 100% with siren rifle attacks
meaning you're only slightly slower than natural 2RL
specifically, once your last RL hits, siren only needs to land a few hits for you to hit burst
Actually I dont think helm b3 would work very well
one of my comps is like 99% 2.5RL with siren on the team, if I quantum noise it gets to 100% but I'd rather give her vigor, quantum siren is like 99.7% lol
Helm B3 works best when treasure phase 3 is done and all her skills are 7 min
you want skill 1 at 10 before you up skill 2
Yeah, its gonna be like 10 days til p3
Rapi is a pretty great b3 tbh
Rrh has 700 ammo
Her lines are pretty good compared to everyone other than naga
Naga just got ridiculous lines for no reason
If I sync rumani could I run blanc, rumani, rrh, rh, t.helm?
Actually, blanc, rrh, rh, rumani, t.helm
no point running rumani p2 you want rh b1 if you have her on the team
I just remember her having crazy gen
she does, but jackal is better for rookie in general
jackal has similar burst gen, links for survival, and anyone on jackal feed gives you even more burst gen
My options are limted cuz of cp
right but your jackal will have more cp than your rumani does presumably even if you sync her
rumani is more useful for SPA because you'd want to use her on another team
This is what I had been running
3rl I think?
So cindy team won't work
This is solid cp but helm is gonna hit like a wet noodle
put the teams into the calc that is 2RL without even cindy in the team lol

ye as discussed earlier until helmt is on phase 3 and burst lvl 7 use the other B3s like RH, RRH and cindy
alice could be used but she's not a nuke type
getting her indommed is also tedious with jackal because she self heals
pve and kraken is your priority anyway
that rookie isn't too bad, will do, else just go for the CP option
CP pad with some RL considerations for rookie
but yeah a lot of your pvp units are underinvested and would lose to cp pad teams
Could I swap positions and run this
this has decent pressure and doubles down as one of your highest CP teams
the gimmick here is that you've linked RH on lifesteal
ye that's pretty high
while not amazing in terms of meta, it's tedious in terms of CP
also a bit of feed and you're 2RL
so it punishes AR/MG/SGs
Which I see alot of
yeah that's decent enough for now I'd say
I have a quick question, what cubes should I have on my units? I've checked the burst chargers and gave them the burst gen cube if they need it, but outside of that I'm not too sure what cube should the others use
my current team is:
Noah - SBS - RH - Anis - Rumani
Scarlet - Trina - Helm - Rosanna - Jackal
Moran - Biscuit - SAnis - Pepper - Centi
@vestal wigeon
noah temperance
rumani temperance (or quantum/adjutant to hit thresholds)
SBS resil/bastion or temperance if you expecting an enemy rosanna
RH bastion/resil
anis quantum
scarlet bastion/resil or temperance if you expect heavy damage
trina quantum or adjutant as rumani, if running in p2 consider temperance to survive splash
helmT quantum/adjutant or vigor if you want extra heals
rosanna bastion/resil
jackal quantum
moran temperance
biscuit vigor
s.anis resil, important to **not **have ammo OL and avoid using her with nikke that increase ammo count, burst should also be lvl 9 minimun
pepper vigor/temperance or quantum for thresholds
centi vigor/adjutant
thank you very much!!
@tropic summit moran doll is done good sir
she now has the same abs as maki oze

Where is A2?
i need hlep making 3 decent teams because i am now losing to people that have lover power in arena and i dont know why
why this never happens when i level up gear on good nikke...
bro ...
at least increase atk on 3rde place
Let's see what isabel can do in CA 
So thanks to Enriched Railtracer i made a team and its winning nice.
But i have other team and i know its not a pvp team.
And i have hard time to make it work... Any one can help me with my second team?
Centi
thank you so much
Are you Noahless?
nope i dont have her...
@crystal flicker what is the website you are using?
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
You should invest to SR ANis then
... fak XDD
then its gona take a long time
i invested a lot in scarlet and jackel so i am broke
welp thank for help
I suppose you can use Blanc ScarBS RH Biscuit Centi, though it'll be slow comp coz you have limited option
or move HelmT from Scarlet comp to that, and replace her with Centi
can biscuit work in the moran/nero team or is it better to use laplace/mana
yea i saw this team
but yea all my things like upgrade materials for armor
or for the plushis are gone
so this team have a lot of point so i wil let is slite for now
trying to find a good spot for biscuit and it's between these two
It's kinda killing the purpose of stall
i figured it'd at least help the team against shotgun
so nero doesn't get blown up before burst
if it's 4SG team
doesn't rap usually res helm anyway? so laplace only adds damage before burst and then dies
I don't think a good stall would lose to SG comp
if it's 4SG with 4x ATK they'll rip through the taunter
and 4SG seems to be the meta now that people are running poli/viper S2
At that point better ditch Nero anyway to get faster team
how will this go?
also why does that eve look like she's in a straight jacket???
here's my box if you want to cook
Make T1 faster and you're good
how would I do that
@umbral crown do you guys still help with champion arena formations?
or is it too much of a hassle
I know it won't win but will this hold vs regular teams?
Just read Rosa kit
so send her out with weak nikke to get frenzied?
does anyone have advice for my team 1 in SP arena? My team 2 and team 3 generally hold their own, but my team 1's ass gets whooped
(teams 2 and 3)
Yeh
It's obvious the CP difference
huh
It's definitely a factor, but they were getting whooped even before I built my other two teams and started overloading their gear
is team 1's comp still viable, or is it a pure stats issue?
Move Jackal to P1, the rest is pure power issue
While you're at it, Anis SR is pretty good to make you comp burst faster
swap her out for Trina?
MAnchor tbh
gonna run this comp next cycle
Yeah, just need investment and that'll be one of your best comp
that'll take a while, but I'll report back, sensei
but she's in my third team
sometimes
i still need to re cook my teams since Ein got fixed
fixed in an update?
that's unlucky
yeah the one we had recently
she was bugged before today. does the good damage now
if you have the time; if you wouldn't mind
could you see if my formation is any good? thank you
i'm currently boosting Rosanna at this moment coincidentally
after that i'll do Cinderella
She's not even bursting
oh
@tropic summit @shell hazel i took a single step into ch27, saw that i was doing 1 dmg, and got out of there so quick 😭
i guess this is the end 
how's this? not sure about placement and I imagine I need an attack buffer, dunno many nikke though

and by high invest i mean nero needs sr15 10/10/x & rosa needs sr5 7/10/10
at you're level i highly don't recommend you invest into them rn
I invest in the queen


oh your campaign team..
you should be pushing campaign 
he's gonna get smacked by raptures 😭
nah I cant push my campaign team skills anymore
cp gapping is a cruel mistress 
you're 10/10/10? or whatever recommended? on everyone campaign?
or you can't due to low mats?
I don't need to 10/10/10 every nikke though
they're also very expensive at their levels rn
your campaign push team should be most of your investment
for most meta campaign units you will 
they are
crown/rrh/rh to name a few
siren 7/7/4
blanc 4/5/6
rh 5/7/7
rouge 8/5/4
rrh 8/8/8

you best stop pumping skill books into rosa and get back on your meta campaign skills 
😭

but to answer you (let's just assume these were high invest). the answer still is no
- nero is a tank who needs heals to make her skills work (while blanc does heal, this isn't the best option for her)
- blanc would possibly give indom onto nero (ideally you want a dps unit to have indom. common example is sbs)
- rosa prefers to work in a fast team, or needs to have her teammates kill units quick in order for her s2 to work
either way that's a no bueno team 
my thought process was have a nikke die for rosanna passive, then tank with nero and have rosanna kill everyone
your rosa burst is level 4, you'd be extremely lucky to kill anyone at all 
I doubt people in my shard have invested units either
while that may be true, rosa hits like a wet noodle at low invest. so it's low invest vs low invest in the end
and she has no damage buff on top of that, which is what makes her so strong on some of her strongest teams
rosa can be a strong unit yes, but there's a reason why she's labeled as high invest 
I wont invest in any other than maybe ein, but what would be a decent team just for defense? I want my spot back and their power isnt much higher
sadly no. that's an extremely slow team 
maybe if your bracket is near your cp and can't cp gap you
try to aim for a 3rl-3.5rl team if you can
or at your sync maybe try just putting your campaign team? i don't heavily suggest this though
hein was right earlier, but they'll probably just swap team positions around

seem like my bracket doomed, no spot in top 7 is safe 
everyone can swing over everyone
just have to hope people have bad attack timing and get less hours of income 
this could be solved if I just pull Noah 
quickk go pull
nah it's already doom, pulled my 30 blue tickets and only got Helm dupe 
at least it's helm 
because you collected your arena points and they didn't log in yet
but since it autocollects at the end it doesn't matter
ah
what their current points are at + their uncollected is gonna be higher than what you have
I've been at five since it started, then pushed to 8, then went back to 5

1 more rank and you'll participate to CA lol
wtf lore accurate position 
he will pull a Rosy
eternal brick 

how’s ein after true damage fix 
There is a sharp size difference between the new skin thighs and the default modern. 
@wild patio hsy attacked again

the side looks the same but the inner part is fatter 
I dont have free attempts for today anymore 
Question i have noise, noah with 17%cs , cinderella, siren, anis in their respective position, will enemy siren stun cinderella?
The rest have no cs
Probably better to put siren on p3 just to be safe?
Yeah ill do that
if cindy is in p3, she can't reach cindy. thus can't stun her
noise would take the stun bc your noah has more cs vs noise
Just incase noise die
if noise dies then noah would be stunned
Same as she was before bugg
If I post my roster could someone help me with teambuilding for PVP?
nah it was a good run 🙂
did you sync 341 in the end? I'm not bothering with 27 until I get there lol
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/Centi/Noir
Noise/Noah/Sanis/Biscuit/Anis
Nero/Moran/HelmT/LaplaceT/Emilia
Pepper/Soda/Bay/Cinderella/Sugar
Use this as general idea to make your teams but yours need some ajustments
i have so many coredust now from the dual events and my credits cannot catch up
guys, should I give R doll to Anis
for CP padding only....other than that purpose....NO
so the real question is.....do u really need to pad ur CP? 
don't build SR anis at sync 201 especially if you don't need her for CA, better to build centi/trina
@wind kelp
thanks, Rosy
Oh hi 😄 Don't worry, it's totally random if i use gems to try out stuff, or not, and i barely notice WHO of the 3-4 people are on 4th 😄
I also have no hecking idea what i'm doing half the time, so nothing personal, just 4th place hunting 
That being said; if you're seriously hunting for 1st or such, taking down big doggos, i'll just not take 4th if you're there. Easy enough, i'm good with 2700 gems or 2400 gems, same same 
you don't have to stop spending gems on pvp. it's part of the game. other people get triggered all the time lol
the only time it's funny/noteworthy is when someone spends 1200+ and just barely manages to win
at least you aren't buying core dust
I just gem up if i'm figuring out what's wrong with teams, or stuff like that 😄 Otherwise it's all the same to me really, so if someone is trying to do soemthing, i'll gladly step back. There's like 3-4 people bouncing back and forth on the 4th spot anyway 😄
that's understandable. you don't have to stop aiming for 4th place though. you can keep doing that if you want to
nothing wrong with that
haven't bought core dust packs in almost 4 months now. i don't want to buy more core dust anymore.
the only thing i buy from the store are both of these
#art message
i have fulled levelled my viper treasure to max. i use her with poli. should viper go first or last? or should i just replace viper with Noir on the shot gun team?
this is my current order
Its fine. sac Viper is alright
Generally Anis CP drop is too low. Do 2 good teams, 1 auto team
Hello, thanks for the team suggestion a while back. Mind if I ask for an updated team suggestion now that I've built Trina and a couple of PvP staple units?
Edit: Image update 
It's like watching a 1st person movie. Pretty decent, but the fighting part is lacking.
Kanon is the name I gave FMC btw... MC is also voiced. Her voice could be edited a bit during character creation.
Trina has her doll
I don't have emilia tho
Idk how to lower that RL without destroying the other teams
yeah just I don't even have SR Anis built and I'm sync 330 and done with the normal mode of the story lol. I put a lot of resources into pvp and she's still pretty unbuilt for me for now
if it's a blue doll only and you have spares you can, just don't focus on it beyond that as other units will benefit from resources more
Start picking 3 credit instead of 1 core dust from Gov box
does anyone here know, if dispel is used, which buff is dispelled first
Sora’s dispel? Proven to dispel Siren’s stun debuff
so its the first debuff applied that is removed
Havent seen anyone testing when multiple debuffs 
@umbral crown @swift mango any ideas?
i feel like im semi confident in that
yes, cleanse works like dispel
2 pvp teams plz
you can try it on shooting range @blissful willow
i did it to be sure nothing change lol
scarlet pmaid centi liter pepper
admi alice sugar anis noise
wowie, who's your favourite husbando so far? 
I don't really care about that
Do you think Blanc gonna survive till burst?

noway, you playing a dating sim and you don't care about le husbandos? come on there has to be at least a trap that could be confused for a female at least.... 
SU Staff reveal 
bet he thought i wouldn't notice 
They are secretly interviewing you to be MA. 
Please ask Mr. Kim to increase CA rewards
At least we know individual will be playable.
3.0 nikke banner revealed
https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1386592085024706641
Consider implementing something similar. 
Should I level Blanc's gear to increase her survivability?
My test shows that she died right before burst
try either of these 2, i'd start with V1, CP in general can offer slightly better results if opponent knows what they doing, as they'll need to fit teams to match the CP
V1 is 3 well distributed teams with decent pressure
V2 should work better against non-whales or ppl on same invest but less pvp knowledge than you, as
T1 and T2 introduce pressure and stun gimmicks
T3 has heavy splash offburst with stalling
interesting post sir 
When I have played enough I would which of the five being more likeable but first impression to 3 of them is that they are generic cool boys.
would still refuse, unless i get paid more than my current job 
can someone please help me build teams for champion arena 
@crystal flicker @swift mango all yours i've to cook lunch and train horse girls
I haven't even built mine. 
i'm running same as last season, got screwed by team ordering 
s.anis against scarlet
scarlet against bay
cindy against noah
Nah, I make a rule to change at least 1 team per season
Hmmm
where did you put your crow this time
When she gets her treasure.
never


I had nothing to do with Sora's kit.

Also season 4 favorite item is just going to be Crow.
NONONONO
STOP THAT ASAP THIS INSTANT 
an additional 1,000 arena exchange voucher is the best we can offer.
||but in seriousness I thought it'd be funny to put Indivillia there and see if anyone notices||
No one asked that but the culprit admitted himself. Please change Sora burst to cleanse 2 debuff. 

most ppl probably fell in love here
We have been asking for Arena shop revamp for months. What about it?
the scene was very epic
It wasn't me. The same with Milk's favorite item.
although i suppose this one was also noteworthy
@umbral belfry thoughts on indivilia btw? 
i think she's a valuable asset
there is no mpriv baby
Shouldn't Indi be electric? She's only wind for AI 🤓 ☝️
We're adding Tier 9 gears for 50k vouchers and if you're lucky it'll on sale for 1,500 gems instead.

@tropic summit take that double

mf if crow really gets treasure i'm gonna be under your bed
slap a drake on there instead
guess the skin confused me
Season 5 will also be Crow again
Thank you for the help again. I'll thoroughly read through this.
Crow's treasure is going to be so good that everyone will be forced to build her or fall behind.

no problem... 

anyone pls 
@keen vapor @umbral crown
Done by Rin
hmm dislike this, you didn't ask 5 mins before CA started 😄
Oh, is that the standard procedure? 
don't take hippos seriously 
it's generally 1 min before CA started
1 min before and the wrong game 😄
Trinaless
i dont have noah tho
What's that blue thing on helm?
Mb, move Anis from T4 to Noah pos and change T4 to this
Hair, Eyes, Night sky
No I mean the one on the bottom left that looks like a book
Oh
is there a chance?
I think so
what team
oh i just attempt with this team?
Oh right
It'll be better to use Noah team against Scarlet, will be less risk of self dying
Summer Anis might also have chance of defeating Emilia 
Hope your Moran burst is maxed
Where'd you find him?
I mean, Hunt's right.
I'd ask for a truce, but the problem is that 2nd and 3rd place are permanent fixtures and I can't target them. The only way to 1st place is through 4th place. And it's not fair to ask you to not hit me if I can't agree to the same.
Oh it's fine, if you can break the status quo that's going on, go for it. I'm just there to "secure top 6" as it were, so if my points are enough, i'll "help" with your mission 😄 I'm fine with top 10 even, so i'm all good. Difference for me is two pulls at max. We do things at such different times anyway, that you're rarely at 4 anyway.
I've reached this point and I'm stuck at 26-15 
For taking his place on SP arena? No
For doing a 3-win? yes
<@&946725432554836008>
Nuked
He wasted my data 
Pain
Probably my comp 
Siren crown Rapi Red Hood and Helm?
yeahh
Then it's okay
Should I do it in this order as well?
@fathom rock you didn't do a 26-15 video 
Cuz it was super easy?
Hey my alt in ch24 ill make sure to record it
Im recording any annoying stage that coming my way
Actually Red Hood should be in center so you can easily spam quick shots, Rapi at the right
IT WASNT
BAKEMONO
If you follow the general rules of spam rh for burst gen and take care of the small mobs that shoot youd win 
Did it hehe
Wdym
"Kill them before they kill you" is ez, just bring elegg and you will get FB at the start
Not on mob stages 
i got hacked now its sending pay gorn to me help
Goodbye 
I forgot 26-15 but yesterday i speedrun 37&38hard with this team
im going to give nvidia backshot
Indivillia 
Idk, feels like you're always online. What timezone are you in anyways? I'm UTC+3.
How about this - if you're sitting in first place, I can promise not to hit you if you do the same.
If either of us is sitting on 4th place, I'd say it's fair game.
Idk if you can beat Starry (usual 1st place) usually?
My current plan is to use my two hits to reach 1st place just before reset.
If you want to fight with him, you can knock him back to 7th place before or after reset.
If he attacks me after reset, I can attack back immediately if I see it. So, if I'm on 4th place <2h after reset, DM me, and I'll get out of the way in a few minutes.
Alternatively, if you want to fight me instead of Starry, don't DM me, I guess. 
Kill them before they kill you is literally the basis of all pve 
And if they hurt you use temporary ways of survival like crown s2
Crown s2 ain’t saving me from volleyballs in hard mode
Kill them before they hurt you using rapi bomba or sbs dd or cindy burst gamba 
PVP coop 
They start flying around before i can even burst since some idiot set them spawn at the start and let them charge their attack before we can start shooting
Time to spacebar and spam with sniper also siren dot may or may not accidentally hit them
Gotta overcome my brick somehow. 😔
Can this Hunt person hunt down the second place player instead and tell him to hit P1 for once? If he takes 1st place, we can finally have peace, because I don't think anyone can beat him.
@clear vessel go on, try to attack Abathur
460 synch's CP is not that bad once you overload
Coop even gets us currency to get more credits/fodder
I'm brick too you know? 
At the end of the day, we're all bricked.
Guys quick 30 seconds left I need CA team 
Hero is on 460 synch range
where this people gets their core dust

Auto x5

lmao it sounds like my entire bracket is in this chat
I spent 15 rocks in total rolling 19% CS for Sora 
I'll probably need to roll off Trina attack 
Well, at least you'll do experiments with that 

Still not as lucky as @raven plover
Lol, it does seem like it, i might log in at 1am, or 6am, whenever i happen to be awake 😄 Hitting someone just before reset is solid, then they have to use their charges to climb back, and you can just take them out again. I can't beat Starry atm, i could, but they've grown in power a bit and i need to up my units again. So i'll just hop around the usual 4-6-7 area 😄
I guess 15-30 rocks is how it goes for 15-18%+ chspd
So 10 units you want to get chspd is up to 300 rocks
I think i've used around 100 rocks to try and get Alice to 20 ammo. Lines are solid, just need the % to hit XD
It's not even if you do average. 
Right before the second CA I spent about 200 rocks total rolling 18+ CS on all my RLs
Which was about like 15 units?

if you're okay with single line cs it shouldn't be too hard, if you are trying to CP pad it's harder
Nvm it was 12 units
It's hard regardless.
I did 10 rock for 1 CS on bay last time and it came up with 3 lines naturally.

I did like 30 rocks on one helmT piece to try and get a decent line 3 😄
@raven plover
emma vs moran nero
Good lord 
Let's see what I'm up against
@placid bloom 

some new faces
hmm not sure
I don't think my Scarlet can kill your Helm team 
and team 1 is basically mirror

it's gonna be wrong indom for my team for sure
little did you know
it's prolly a wrong indom for me too 
your slower team should give you the edge assuming indom does work correctly. it's 3.5 no?
yeah
but I don't actually think that helps on wrong indom
it only matters if it was correct indom
believe in blanc 
actually there's no Jackal on either team so SBS 3rd slash won't redirect because p1 always takes the most damage
nvm
yeah there shouldn't be a misindom
but I am like 99% sure my Scarlet cannot one-shot through Moran B1
nah even without Bay I don't think it's enough, remember aceross's Scarlet couldn't one-shot through Zyph's 3RL Moran 
i can't remember if ace ran a one buff or double buff
1 buff, cup was able to one-shot because RH B1
ah 
instead of Soda
seem like the 2 below us are on nonsense team so it should just be between us 2 
You know few days ago I'm talking about Blanc + Cindy in a comp
it's time to fight kuwon 
What are the chances, someone actually using that against my stall lmao
Hime what sync did you get to for chapter 27?
yeah 341 is needed I think to even think of making much progress there
hmm I think there's actually a chance my Moran just dies to Scarlet Mermaid before B1 
my Moran has no OL 
I didn't get a purple doll for Moran in time 😦
I stole it from you, and then I SR15'd it 

nero stall next ca 
my Nero is SR-15 though
as is mine 
no purple collection boxes? 
hell yeah gotta full send it
tbh probably better for you to make it through anyway, my teams are too fake to make it very far 
lock in hippo 🗣️
I'm lockin' in
lock in kuwon 🗣️
I'll finish OL Rumani and Noir next I guess
@sleek imp 

caught griefing red handed
@hollow lagoon you're in group 42 with guy who is 3rd in my SPA (cedelo), dunno what teams they're running lol
I'm in 55 (my teams left on image here) #pvp-arena message
I got a Max out Quiry and a Max out Moran. Any team comps I should work for SP defense? Please don't tell me I wasted resources 
Are we deadass 
Im cooked
Wait, Im In YOUR bracket?? @placid bloom 
not in my group but same league yes. No new baby league for you
I'm in group 54 I think?
you can check the other groups
but only your own matters for your matches
Blue doll 















stuns bay
's burst is lv 9 i fear


