pvp-arena

[swift mango]

We have plenty of rin and rinn.

[upper grove]

true

[atomic wolf]

where is rinnn

[swift mango]

@sand moss

[atomic wolf]

damn

[swift mango]

@calm gull

[upper grove]

@crystal flicker Do you remember the CA winner team with raven?

[atomic wolf]

he gave up lmao

whoops, nevermind, there he goes again

[swift mango]

clearing about 100 tower floor today....

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesa gonna test something real quick

lap's autos (?) killed link i think 😭

either that or lap killed trina so no b2 but i'm done testing for today

[atomic wolf]

some insanely funny discovery i founded with my team comp

bay can survives the cindy nuke at r0 (yes, r0)

siren scarlet kills cindy team

[calm gull]

sup

[swift mango]

Guess he meant a different rin

[upper grove]

too many Rin

[calm gull]

[swift mango]

Good bye soda can. May we meet again.

Soon

Just need 2 more times synchro slots resets

Got me almost 6000 gems today from clearing tower for the frame.... Spent 200 on reroll dispatch, earned back 60. 120 on gem claim.

I'm gonna stuck on mother whale and earn negative gem daily soon.

[tropic summit]

play on PC and use alice

or you only got a phone?

[quartz rover]

I want you guys to do a miracle and make a team for me to cook this guy

[tropic summit]

post ur box, that's an easy team

[crystal flicker]

It's deficit

[tropic summit]

he has biscuit iirc

ye there you go

[tropic summit]

arrange this team (yours is on the left), then post screenshot of matchup to check CP

[crystal flicker]

You have RH and yet you'ren't using her

[tropic summit]

he's fairly new to the game

[quartz rover]

it had the wrong preset

but yeah i'm pretty new too

[swift mango]

I have an old laptop. Not sure if much use. And well, I'm lazy to do it now.

[tropic summit]

then again it's just manufacturer tower i guess?

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
Not winning CA, but he got the 2nd place
I'm sure you can replace ScarBS there for more genm

[swift mango]

yeah, so can just wait

[tropic summit]

ye that's deficit

go centi biscuit rrh rh moran

will cover your back from marciana shooting p5

[quartz rover]

I may be able to swap gear around

[tropic summit]

it's fine just swap siren for moran

[tropic summit]

how's your RRH ammo looking btw?

[upper grove]

thanks, appreciate it

[quartz rover]

ammo?

[clear depot]

Guys, I don't know if it's a bug or I am missing something...

My team is Helm T, Blanc, RH, Little Mermaid, Jackal.
-Helm T has 129k attack
-RH has 124k attack
-Little Mermaid has 105k attack

With those values, Helm T and RH should be linked with Jackal, right? So.... Why the F* is linked Little Mermaid and RH?

[crystal flicker]

It's still underdeficit

[tropic summit]

ok run centi biscuit rh rrh moran

[quartz rover]

if by ammo you mean skills theyre all 7

[crystal flicker]

OL lines?

[tropic summit]

no i was speaking about OL but you probably don't have anything on it, RRH until then kinda crap on pvp

just go RH B1 and B3 by running centi biscuit rh rrh moran

[quartz rover]

yeah I only have one r9m and its on red hood, its a arm

[tropic summit]

that settles it then, go for it 👍

[clear depot]

You hit it.

If it wasn't because your hint I wouldn't had know I didn't know my Helm T doesn't have not even a line of attack 🤦‍♂️

[quartz rover]

should I try attacking just to check?

the power difference may be too much

[tropic summit]

you'll be on deficit yes

the alternative is moran siren centi rh rrh

[crystal flicker]

Blanc has a doll, how she has lower cp than dolless Centi

[quartz rover]

imma run interceptor, may be able to get some nice gear

[tropic summit]

sure

getting in CP range would make it way easier

your n1 priority is getting RH good gear

(pve and pvp wise)

[quartz rover]

blanc even has skills leveled

all 4

centi has purple m is why I guess

[jagged mesa]

NO

ABSOLUTELY NOT

[umbral belfry]

it's too late ash i did it

[jagged mesa]

REQUEST DENIED

TAKE IT BACK

[severe nimbus]

had 3 people try(and fail) to take my spot in SA today after having no one hitting me all season...when there is only 1 day and 20 hours left for this season...do they not know that even if they held my spot for the rest of the season they still wouldnt get the ranking reward for said spot xD

[jagged mesa]

jk i have bigger problems the chinese fella is crankin out wins against me at better timing than me

im gonna lose on points

[tropic summit]

viceversa, it's to get the spot early for the start of the new season

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[tropic summit]

testing your defense and possibly breaking it tomorrow is also an option

[swift mango]

Meanwhile, my C1-3 attack each other for sport.

[jagged mesa]

im going to fly across the world for a while next week, they're about to find out they arent the only ones on asian timezones !!!!

[umbral belfry]

ash flying with sora

[placid bloom]

my former c1 and c2 are nice enough to let me sit in c1 spot

[quartz rover]

I took out the ex interceptor

[placid bloom]

but I will probably still grief CA anyway

[quartz rover]

big loot

[umbral belfry]

believe in rng kuwon

[severe nimbus]

lowkey im surprised 3rd place has not tried to take my spot in 2nd even once.

its always the 4th or 7th place guys in my bracket that keep swapping places, 5th, 6th and 8th I don't think i have ever seen move up or down from their spots

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry by this metric this means you and folian are not as nice people as kuwon's benefactors

hogging those 2 spots since 1992

[umbral belfry]

i'm nice

[jagged mesa]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[quartz rover]

how's the deficit now?

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy team for 0.846 and you find out the minimun requirement to not be hit by penalty

[quartz rover]

their power?

[tropic summit]

ye

for example in this case you need 56k, you're in range now and won't be hit by penalty

should be ez win now

[quartz rover]

[tropic summit]

yep there you go

[quartz rover]

time to make him quit beginner cup

thanks for the help

is it because i'm running biscuit and doran? I know theyre pretty tanky no

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[quartz rover]

also should I raise centi's skills a bit? I know she's generally a good nikke right

[raven plover]

bring them down

[tropic summit]

@quartz rover

several factors in this matchup:

-opponent is running a very slow team, they've no batteries
-you're running p1 defender + biscuit, that means enemy weapons (minus SGs) are all shooting a p1 that becomes invulnerable
-you're running p5 defender + biscuit, that means enemy SGs will be shooting a p5 that becomes invulnerable
-you're running 4RL, you'll birst before them (they're on 7RL+)

[tropic summit]

only need to be 4/4/4, focus on your pve anyway

you can invest in pvp units after you've maxed campaign and kraken team

[quartz rover]

i'll just raise red hoods skills some more then

[tropic summit]

well RH does need to be 10/10/10

you should ask for tips on #team-building and #questions for your pve progress

[quartz rover]

i'm running the dollar store 5/6/5

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/black-clover-charlotte-run-embarrassed-shock-gif-16612675

[subtle pilot]

hey all! Just wondering if I could get some advice into these teams?

my invested box

[umbral belfry]

you should win t1, t2 depends if your noise has less cs to take the stunnerino

bc if noah gets stunned (assuming you have less than 11 cs to burst before stun) say goodnight

[tropic summit]

how invested is your bay

if 4OL 4/4/4 way more than sufficient

[subtle pilot]

only at 10% CS on my noise atm

[umbral belfry]

i'm gonna assume your noah has less than that then

[subtle pilot]

only 3 OL atm but well over 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

that's fine

[subtle pilot]

yeah 0 atm, rolling has been killing my gem stores

[umbral belfry]

moran bay helm that man

[subtle pilot]

on what team?

replacing noah/noise?

[umbral belfry]

unless rail wants to correct me

t1: siren scar trina centi jack
t2 moran rumani helm bay lap+

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

[umbral belfry]

bay will eat scar's nuke up for dinner 🍽️

that works too

now i go back to p5x hell

[tropic summit]

your T2 version would probably work aswell, but

1. moran feeds scarlet
2. moran has less invest than noise

[umbral belfry]

love both and

[tropic summit]

i see you were facing a tough choice

both waifus but only one

[umbral belfry]

sr15 moran

[subtle pilot]

you guys are amazing it worked!

since he hit the 380 breakpoint I haven't been able to attack, thank you so much ❤️

[dire root]

[umbral belfry]

bay p1

[crystal flicker]

Rail da MA on duty

[umbral belfry]

okay i'm getting distracted

[tropic summit]

no you, me just a pleb

[dire root]

Defender

[crystal flicker]

no i, but u

[umbral belfry]

poor choice for bisc. if she loses cover she's useless

[dire root]

What ever

[umbral belfry]

but you do you i'm off to p5x

[subtle pilot]

if you don't mind me harassing you guys more while I'm here. Any recommendations on how to improve my current def team, tried cooking myself a bit but feel a bit stretched trying to make emilia work as well as noah/cind & trina/scar

[crystal flicker]

Emi wants CS

[tropic summit]

T1 is sort of ok
T2 noah biscuitless and in p1, that's a nono
T3 siren in p2 but not linked? ballsy

[subtle pilot]

current emi team is 2.5RL

[crystal flicker]

Can you win against 2RL with that Emi

[subtle pilot]

what does it mean by linked with siren?

[tropic summit]

siren can be run in p1 and p2 if linked, else you're asking for her to commit sudoku against enemy scarlets

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-dftba-sudoku-i-love-sudoku-gif-16956492

[tropic summit]

to be linked, siren needs to be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team (OL included)

since you're running Rh and helmt, both attackers, it's very likely a supporter does not have the atk% to beat those 2

meaning your siren in p2 is open to damage and probably will die to scarlet counters

[subtle pilot]

yeah helm and scar out attack% her

[crystal flicker]

Yeh you have potential to run 3 x 2RL instead

[subtle pilot]

really? my brain could not work out a way for it to be 3x2RL

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

just mess around with this, it's fairly easy

[subtle pilot]

yeah was sitting on that all night trying to work it out

but I'll go back to the drawing board with those notes thank you!

[tropic summit]

here's a tip, cook with these

they're in order of investiment from your box, try to avoid using SGs whenever possible although

[subtle pilot]

wow I think I did it, mind if I send just to see if I missed anything important?

I don't think there's a way for me to fit in siren without putting down 1 team to 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

T1 is not looking good
T2 overcommited
T3 doesn't need biscuit

try again

[subtle pilot]

ah I thought you said noah/biscuit is a must

[tropic summit]

keep in mind scar-jack teams do not need to be natural 2RL

you can aim for 91%-95%

[tropic summit]

it depends on where you place noah

a team like

noise rumani cind helmt noah

doesn't need biscuit

[quartz rover]

I love free gems

[crystal flicker]

It's like a Teacher giving assignment
Rail is a Teacher

[quartz rover]

welp, i'm not getting any higher

[tropic summit]

ch3 probably in range

ch2 and ch4 will be rough

[quartz rover]

1 has 2k less than Ch2

can't see their team though

[tropic summit]

start worrying about hitting ch3 tomorrow, if you're still ch5 that is

[quartz rover]

yeah

[subtle pilot]

and what did you mean by overcommitted? if you're meaning in terms of charge speed, why is that a bad thing?

[tropic summit]

scarlet wants to be around 2.5RL on 91%-95% to 2RL
any other team that goes over 100% to 2RL is potentially wasted

that should give you a tip where to balance

as for blanc team blanc in p1 without revive or biscuit is generally a bad idea for several reasons:

-siren weak
-SG weak
-scarlet weak

[gritty ridge]

Can we have 1 rl team?

[tropic summit]

if the opponent helps you by placing cindy in p1

[gritty ridge]

[quartz rover]

is that majima at the end of the clip?

[tropic summit]

hmm looks good

T2 scarlet is still linked with both laplace and SBS present tho?

[subtle pilot]

no issue with emi being 2.5RL?

[tropic summit]

ye that team is strong as is

[subtle pilot]

ohhh I misunderstood and thought the linking was with siren and siren had to be highest %

[tropic summit]

jackal links with the 2 highest atk% (OL included) units

in that setup you've 3 attackers contesting it, ensure scarlet is 1st or 2nd

your 2nd linked unit can be p2 btw

e.g. assuming laplace, scarlet and jackal linked

scarlet laplace trina sbs jackal

[subtle pilot]

so something like
siren/scar/trina/laplace/jackal

[tropic summit]

it's very unlikely siren is linked with laplace and scarlet present

you're asking a support to have more atk than 2 attackers

[subtle pilot]

ohh you want siren linked ignore me

[tropic summit]

well you don't have to run siren at all costs, although she's strong because it forces enemy hand

[subtle pilot]

although it is 97% 2RL

[gritty ridge]

Does yours not

[tropic summit]

pick someone else over noise as she'd taunt p1 and p2 to shoot in p4, hitting with splash 3 nikke over 2 (more burst gen to enemy)

[gritty ridge]

My siren on occasion has more attack than my redhood

[subtle pilot]

I could do anis but that pushes the team to 114% 2RL, I know Bay was mentioned earlier would she be alright here?

[tropic summit]

not if you plan to have 2RL x3 teams

bay has mild burst gen compared to clip RL

[lapis plaza]

Hey, I'm asking if I can get some help on my Arena teams for SP Arena as well as the single arena? I've gotten by just throwing things at the wall but I want to hit the higher ends of the rank and need help. These are my top six rows in my box and I have more below, but I can only add like three pictures here. I appreciate any help or can answer any questions.

[subtle pilot]

well she makes the scar team 97% 2RL which is slightly off from perfect right?

[tropic summit]

91%-95% is sufficient, 97% is even more reliable

it means you only need a tad of feed and a few s2 from scarlet to be 2RL

[crystal flicker]

Moran HelmT dies, Quiry survive makes this match possible

He must have really stacked Cindy to kill Moran

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind helmt noise
noah biscuit s.anis siren noir
scarlet sbs blanc laplace jackal

quantum on noah, noir, laplace, jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit, blanc
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no OL

notes:

wishlist/build trina, rumani, finish laplace treasure, raise CP for your utilities:

jackal, biscuit, noise, blanc, noah

hmm looks good, anything better than flex bay though?

1. must not steal link from scarlet
2. ideally no SGs or MGs

[crystal flicker]

I was about to send my 3x2 comp but it's more interesting to see people learn

[umbral belfry]

if i see scar p1, i'm rubbing my hands like a little fly

[tropic summit]

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

[subtle pilot]

well any of my other attackers such as sbs/xmaiden have less attack than scar/laplace

[gritty ridge]

Can you have 2.5 team low invest?

[tropic summit]

xmaiden would work, as long as she doesn't tank CP

[crystal flicker]

You can try to Siren my Scarlet

[subtle pilot]

aaa I thought this was the case but was told scar was good in p1

[umbral belfry]

Do you have 20 ammo

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry plot twist, he has 32 ammo scarlet

[crystal flicker]

I have enough to deflect Siren

[umbral belfry]

usually scar is fine in p1, but she's a huge target on defense due to siren. but if you have less than 32 ammo don't, you're fine

[gritty ridge]

Cuz the best I seem to be able to make is 3 rl

[tropic summit]

scarlet in p1 with more than 32 ammo is siren stunnable

[umbral belfry]

my only weakness against a linked p1 siren, less than 32 ammo scar

https://tenor.com/view/rat-clenches-fist-of-rage-gif-17724863424168389741

[tropic summit]

@subtle pilot to prevent that, you can run jackal scarlet trina flex 2nd_linked_unit

[crystal flicker]

2.5RL is basically achievable from CS stat or Rosa sacc

[tropic summit]

in your case team becomes jackal scarlet trina bay laplace

[subtle pilot]

well I can put drake+ in as she's about 300attack lower than laplace and that massively bumps up my cp

[tropic summit]

SG would play in opponent end here

[crystal flicker]

You can try run your Siren against my stall

[tropic summit]

mirror scarlet they'd be slightly faster than you

cuz SG feeds heavily

[umbral belfry]

that's not fair you have an invested stall team

[subtle pilot]

ah right apologies

[crystal flicker]

Stall truly gave me freedom to mess around with the rest comp lol

[umbral belfry]

one day i too will have an invested stall team

[tropic summit]

the sacrifices made for that stall comp tho

bet he gained a few white hair strands

[subtle pilot]

I think looking at my options - best choice is sbs as she's lower attack than scar/laplace but highest cp that isn't MG/SG

[tropic summit]

ye SBS can work as flex as long as no stealerino link

average burst gen, no feed, works as off-dps

extra value is that she can partially mess with enemy indoms due to her skillset

off to bed, any more questions feel free to throw them at the following MAs:

Echo
Hime
Rin

the last two i'm joking but they can still help you

[umbral belfry]

gn rail

[subtle pilot]

thank you so much @tropic summit have a goodnight!

[gritty ridge]

Hime

I need your assistance

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Can I build a 2.5 rl team with low invest

[umbral belfry]

at your low sync? highly doubtful

or rather, you might. but bc they're unlikely to be invested it'll be more hurt than good

[gritty ridge]

I mean, I could jump to like 218 rn

But thats lame

[umbral belfry]

that's still fairly low i fear

also usually for 2.5 you'd need cs lines

maybe if you have helmt you can make 1 2 rl team

[gritty ridge]

Helmt is the only way my bay team works

[umbral belfry]

and that's 3 rl

[gritty ridge]

And even she only gets me to 3rl

Siren dropped me alot and rh is not helping

[umbral belfry]

a common 2 rl team with helm is noise noah cindy helmt centi or rumani

don't recall if you had scar or not

[crystal flicker]

@calm gull is PvP MA

[umbral belfry]

but if so you could run a 2 rl noah cindy comp, 2 rl scar trina rh jack comp, and then either a 3 rl team or cp pad

but because you're likely (and should at yor level) invest more into campaign units rn, i'd imagine that's a goal far off

but thankfully some units (rh, cindy, siren, etc) are good both in pve and pvp

[gritty ridge]

I dont sadly

[crystal flicker]

You can try Rosa sacc if you have invested Rosa

[umbral belfry]

soon

[crystal flicker]

Most DPS die around 2-2.5RL, so you're guarantee to get that

[umbral belfry]

he's like sync lv 201? unlikely for invested rosa

[gritty ridge]

I want scar so I can run scar blanc

I dont even have rosa lmao

[umbral belfry]

scar next 10 pull trust

[crystal flicker]

F

[gritty ridge]

Whats the typical siren team btw?

[umbral belfry]

think the most common one is (linked) siren scar trina centi jackal

but she can fit on any (pref) min 3 rl speed team

[gritty ridge]

If I had scar I could run that

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Cuz my siren is linked unless I run rrh/rh same team

Which would be a bad idea cuz rrh bad

[umbral belfry]

your rh must be fairly low invest if she's not linked on a rrh + siren team or your siren is high invest, both?

rh is a very good unit, esp in pve. try to invest in her when you can

[gritty ridge]

My siren is just very very invested

[umbral belfry]

fair enough

[umbral belfry]

Pray for a purple sr doll

[lapis plaza]

Oh, so I do have Trina, Romani, and enough mats for laplace treasure and raising them. Does that change some of the teams you listed?

[calm gull]

wym
I am poo in pvp

[gritty ridge]

Rinn is best pvp advice

[lapis plaza]

These are the last three screenshots of my nikkes as well for full team ideas. Again, thank you I am lost on the stuff XD

[crystal flicker]

I suppose you can run very generic arch type with those

[unique mountain]

Blood could win three ca's between previous and next sr

[lapis plaza]

Oh that's just my latter half, here's the other top half. #pvp-arena message

I know I have the units for a decent team but putting them together is where I have difficulty.

[forest zodiac]

can someone help me with this pls pls?
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTk2MDgxNzQwNDgxMzY0NzYwOQ%3D%3D my shiftypad

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, Rail's prev build based on what you've attached on top

If you have all PvP option you can run:

Scarlet Soda/Siren Trina Centi Jackal
Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani
Blanc SAnis/ScarBS RH/Pepper Biscuit Anis

If you're willing to pour very high investment, you can also run Stall comp

Last,

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Skip
Noah Biscuit Cindy HelmT Rumani

You can scramble yourself for T2, just need Siren to stun Noah, and Nuke ASAP before ScarBS burst

[forest zodiac]

I will be cp gapped, no?

[crystal flicker]

What's your CP with those comp

[forest zodiac]

yyeah I'm 100% sure will be cp gapped

just by eye balling it will be less than 600k

yeah, t1 is just 577k

my t2 from screenshots wins, but t3 loses (I guess too slow)

[plucky charm]

someone has this team comp. is a 2rl scarjack safe to hit him with? idk what mana does

[umbral belfry]

mana revives 1 unit without bursting. but bc that team is slow, 2 rl scar is safe to hit it

[oblique ridge]

Over 4RL team Scarlet’s blade thirsts

[crystal flicker]

You lost coz they have Scarlet Indom, that's why I put Biscuit there to stop Scarlet from hitting anything

Anyway, Noah against T2 and Scarlet against T3

[forest zodiac]

thanks, appreciated

[crystal flicker]

Siren stun Noah, and the rest just History
2RL Scarlet should outspeed their T3, unless they have 25% CS

[lapis plaza]

Thank you for the build teams I will definitely work on them when I get some time. I've just been wanting to get a solid team going for those rewards on reset.

And listen, listen...I tried for Emilia and didn't get her ;-; It's where I started to save and hoard more so I can not miss out anymore.

[fiery parcel]

I should swap team 2 and team 1?

[fiery parcel]

@graceful grotto @calm gull appreciate the help

[fiery parcel]

Can i win?

[odd lantern]

no

[fiery parcel]

So if i swap team 1 and 2?

[graceful grotto]

Youll win t3, t1 is a lose but t2 needs to be 2RL

[fiery parcel]

Say if i put trina instead of blanc? But it's against a noah biscuit team

Usually my scar loses to noah biscuit

[graceful grotto]

Try

Scar Trina Red Hood Xmaid jackal

Should be 2RL, any cp gap?

[fiery parcel]

T1 is is more than 15% higher than them

[crystal flicker]

Siren was born for this exact moment

[odd lantern]

i think he'll lose t2 too with 2rl, but it'll be interesting

[graceful grotto]

If your scar with Trina and Red Hood can't kill sanis and helm

Then it's a big issue lol

[graceful grotto]

Problem is Noah and Noise, we don't know who has higher CS

[umbral belfry]

Just put siren in p3-5

[crystal flicker]

Put Siren P3 and you're done

[umbral belfry]

now if noah has 11 cs+ to burst before stun, then it was over from the start

[fiery parcel]

So wait lol. How do i go about it? T3 maintain... change t1 and t2 how now?

[graceful grotto]

Change to Scar Blanc/Trina Siren Xmaid Jackal

[crystal flicker]

That's why Soda better

[umbral belfry]

[graceful grotto]

Trina is better but Blanc is just for the off chance for Indo scar to clear if you can't kill

[umbral belfry]

Trina instead of blanc

[crystal flicker]

Also you should record it so you know what's their Scarlet ammo count

[odd lantern]

wouldn't siren at position 3 or later handle this issue?

[graceful grotto]

Time to build her frfr

[umbral belfry]

I'd just :

T1 - Scar Trina Siren xMaid Jack
T2 - 2 rl noah cindy
T3 - skip or you noah bisc

you could also just skip t2 and do noah bisc for t3

[fiery parcel]

Maybe t1 can win with cp deficit at 3RL?

[graceful grotto]

First one can just use Defender + Biscuit actually

SBS counter

[umbral belfry]

looks like it may be deficit yeah

oh i got the teams messed up, it was the order that threw me off

[fiery parcel]

Ok imma going in

[umbral belfry]

wait

[fiery parcel]

Oh

Ok ok lol

final checks

[umbral belfry]

for the sbs team (t1) you can use noah bisc or just beat by deficit
the noah team do the 2 rl scar trina siren xmaid jack
t3 2 rl noah

your t1 should just beat by deficit alone but i haven't checked, just eye balling

[quick lake]

ill swipe out Siren for another ClipRL/RL unit

[graceful grotto]

First one technically the easiest to beat, low CP too, so I can just defender + Biscuit it

[umbral belfry]

don't need to go for all three teams really

[fiery parcel]

T1 deficit for 15%

[umbral belfry]

T1 and T3 is the easiest imo

[graceful grotto]

Third one can counter with Noah but not sure how much your Noah can survive if you take out biscuit

[odd lantern]

it's possible - T3 switch biscuit with noise (have noise position 1)
then t1 put in biscuit

[graceful grotto]

He has no noise

[umbral belfry]

[fiery parcel]

I have but not in here

[graceful grotto]

U have?

[quick lake]

Run 5x SG on T1 and yolo

[fiery parcel]

Yeah

[graceful grotto]

noise and Noah goes hand in hand lol

[fiery parcel]

Noise is 4/4/4 4xOL

[umbral belfry]

4/4/4 oof

[fiery parcel]

I thought it was noah biscuit

[graceful grotto]

Time to 4 4 7 her lol

[umbral belfry]

we're gonna confuse him at this rate 😭

[graceful grotto]

[fiery parcel]

I can do immediately

[graceful grotto]

Nah wait

[fiery parcel]

Have tons of burst manuals

[quick lake]

biscuit 4/4/4 is fine

rarely burst with her

[graceful grotto]

Im referring to Noise hahaha

[umbral belfry]

nah they're talking about noise

4/4/4 noise is

[quick lake]

then 4/4/7

[umbral belfry]

10

but yeah overall you have the advice needed to win. now go get em

[fiery parcel]

Scar is 10/7/7 tho. SR10 doll

Should i 10/7/10 her?

[umbral belfry]

i'd rather max scar's burst than go in more noise tbh

[graceful grotto]

go this for T3

[fiery parcel]

Ok lemme burst 10nscar first

[crystal flicker]

You do realize you're need Taunter + Biscuit to counter ScarBS

Her passive will target lowest def

[odd lantern]

pairing scarlet/jackal with biscuit works too

coz jackal will trigger biscuit 100%

[fiery parcel]

Ok. Now im verily confused. Hahahaha

[umbral belfry]

i told you guys

[crystal flicker]

Expensive

[odd lantern]

he just needs to win 2 teams

[graceful grotto]

he can just

Jackal / Trina / Biscuit / Scarlet / Centi or smth

[umbral belfry]

[oblique ridge]

Noah + Biscuit is the guarantee vs BS Scarlet but idk what rest of team you’d put in that

[graceful grotto]

for T1 i mean

[umbral belfry]

you could also moran + bisc if you insist on going for all 3 teams vs 2

[fiery parcel]

1. Upgrade scar to 10/7/10?

[fiery parcel]

Moran not completed. She's SR5 4/4/4, but no OL

[graceful grotto]

cause noah is preserve for T3

[fiery parcel]

Centi isnt completed either

[umbral belfry]

Even more reason why you should just be aiming for 2 teams vs 3 teams

[fiery parcel]

Same as moran.

[umbral belfry]

Granted, even with your moran you shouldn't (?) be under deficit

[fiery parcel]

Ok 2 teams i should beat is t1 and t3?

[umbral belfry]

Those would be the easiest personally, yeah

[graceful grotto]

i personally would just 2RL them to kill lol, since they're 3RL, plus jackal like this can also held onto sbs in case she burst since biscuit is there

[umbral belfry]

T2 is also winnable but you're gambling whether their noah has 11 cs+ to burst before siren stuns

[oblique ridge]

I think it was tested and BS Scarlet doesn’t cling to p1 for lowest def in Arena combat

[umbral belfry]

there's no guranatee that sbs would continue to hit jackal as jackal doesn't taunt

[graceful grotto]

SR 10 scarlet

[oblique ridge]

She’ll just slaughter the other members of the team through AoE collateral damage (from distributed damage calculated off lowest DEF target on team) because she isn’t being taunted/attracted onto Jackal

[umbral belfry]

and his scar is better off used elsewhere

[fiery parcel]

Going to 15 after mmast

[graceful grotto]

he's running 2RL cindy on T3 anyway, can give up T2, so Scar / Jack can go T1

[odd lantern]

you have to have faith that SBS team has enough damage to lower jackal to 50% via linked damage lol

[fiery parcel]

Okay. So how do i setup t1?

[umbral belfry]

considering it happened in ca yes

but what matters is that mudster wins noah + bisc is undeniably the easiest way to counter a sbs

[graceful grotto]

if he doesn't mind blanc burst, then just go taunt + biscuit hahaha

[graceful grotto]

he used up Noah on T3 though

[umbral belfry]

i agree for that, or even moran + bisc for his t1 but we're getting off track

[umbral belfry]

can you show the teams again?

[graceful grotto]

Oppo team is SBS / Blanc / Rapunzel / Xmaid / Rumani

3RL

[umbral belfry]

Moran + Bisc (can use cereal's team picture as an example)

or simply out deficit (riskier)

[graceful grotto]

Oppo Team 3 was

Scarlet / Trina / RH / Centi / Jackal

Counter proposition

Noise / Noah / Cindy / HelmT / Rumani

[umbral belfry]

sounds right yeah

then you're done

[graceful grotto]

@fiery parcel go ahead

let us know the results

[umbral belfry]

double check the deficit on T1 though. bc while your moran skills are pretty , she taunts + will save

[graceful grotto]

but oppo T1 is pretty bad cp wise, only 58k, should not be deficit

[umbral belfry]

hopefully

[crystal flicker]

I really need someone on my bracket to run Scarlet Trina RH, I want to know whether my stall enough to fight it

[fiery parcel]

Wait... i just got enought to synchro 400

[umbral belfry]

You just wanna bully them

[graceful grotto]

401 is where the boost at

so no need to rush sc 400

[crystal flicker]

The math said I win, but I just want to make sure

[fiery parcel]

But i can dump the recycling center

[odd lantern]

This is the same as the original, before changes?

[fiery parcel]

Yes

[umbral belfry]

Best pray his noah has less than 11 cs

[fiery parcel]

CP is up alittle bit

Also got pilgrim up 1 level from recycling

[odd lantern]

I think cereal's suggestion will beat him

[umbral belfry]

why isn't t3 2rl we suggested that

or is it?

[odd lantern]

it is

[umbral belfry]

you're good then

You out deficit T1, T2 you're banking on if noah has less than 11 cs, T3 Noah blocks scar

[oblique ridge]

Hime, I had 5 perfect teams but I’m missing a high powered burst gen character to make it work. Pascal + XMaiden is letting me down I imagine a lot of CA cooks are short one too unless they got 25% Emilia or a whole bunch of 15%-18% chspd units

[fiery parcel]

Ill record

[umbral belfry]

Pray for another Clip RL

Must be nice having an Emi

[graceful grotto]

we need to be able to do 2RL on 5 teams anyway, just make it happen already SU

[umbral belfry]

soon™

[oblique ridge]

In 1 year this message will be forwarded to the you that’s still waiting for another pvp clip RL

[umbral belfry]

[graceful grotto]

Who was the last one? Was it Trina?

[odd lantern]

He went in without changing team comps?

lol

[graceful grotto]

Idk lol, no reply

[umbral belfry]

We gave our advice, if mudster didn't follow then

[graceful grotto]

We tried to cook, but the food wasn't deliver

[crystal flicker]

I love testing my comps

[graceful grotto]

[umbral belfry]

[graceful grotto]

What is your stall team again, gonna build a new set for SPA T3

[crystal flicker]

I forgot to change SAnis to Quiry

[odd lantern]

You spend too much time with Anis.

[graceful grotto]

Icic, problem with this is I have to waste HelmT 😦

Gonna build Moran after DKW

[odd lantern]

yeah. stall teams always waste helm or noah

[umbral belfry]

dkw

[graceful grotto]

Lmao, she's the last b1 for SR I max out, @strong hull has been teasing me on this

[umbral belfry]

i just use her in tower and pray for the best

[graceful grotto]

Honestly if we get another meta b1 cdr, she's next in line to be dropped

[crystal flicker]

This stall against Blanc RH, but I win, you can see RH got Indom

[graceful grotto]

Now we have

1. Siren
2. Rouge
3. Liter
4. Tove
5. DKW -> next in line to be replaced

[umbral belfry]

Tove is cdr?

[graceful grotto]

Not really but stapler b1 for solo raids

[odd lantern]

if privaty gets a good treasure, doro might come back

[umbral belfry]

[graceful grotto]

Indeed

[placid bloom]

Tove doesn't have cdr but BSoda extends FB timer so it makes up for it

[umbral belfry]

never had a chance to use tove in SR bc i'm just now slowly getting my SGs up

[placid bloom]

well kind of at least, the 10 sec buffs still run out before FB runs out

5s of unbuffed FB

[fiery parcel]

Woohoo

Thanks all. Back to C1

[odd lantern]

lol got lucky with killing blanc

[fiery parcel]

I was panicking a bit when rapubrevived sbs

[umbral belfry]

we did it team

[fiery parcel]

Tq all

[umbral belfry]

Now gear up your scar bc that nuke dmg is

[fiery parcel]

Hopefully can CA next season

[umbral belfry]

can't tell if it's the scar, low trina levels, or both

but a win's a win

[fiery parcel]

My nuke damage not enough?

[umbral belfry]

Considering you didn't kill bisc/noise, i'd say no

but you still won so

[crystal flicker]

Good news, someone runs Scarlet Blanc RH in my bracket
Bad news, someone attacked him right before me smh

[odd lantern]

just drop some points

for science

[crystal flicker]

It's SP

[gritty ridge]

Can I use bready in pvp?

[umbral belfry]

put crow

[umbral belfry]

Could you? Sure. Could you win with her?

[fiery parcel]

Scar and trina

[umbral belfry]

How are trina's skills?

[fiery parcel]

Trina is 4/10/7

[umbral belfry]

[sleek imp]

useable

[graceful grotto]

Bro really didn't go with our final discussion

Hahahaha, but at least he won all 3

[gritty ridge]

I was wondering cuz sniper doesn't feed, idk if you could reliably get her distributed, crust wouldn't work

[umbral belfry]

suffering from success

[graceful grotto]

[fiery parcel]

Sweaty. But that rapu burst means i have to worry about stall teams

[umbral belfry]

don't do it man 😭

[graceful grotto]

7 / 10 / 10

[odd lantern]

you can if you are 60 levels above your opponents

[gritty ridge]

Its not f

[crystal flicker]

You can compare her dist dmg to ScarBS first

[umbral belfry]

trina ideally should br 7/10/10 yeah

[graceful grotto]

There's literally so many other sniper u can use lolol

[graceful grotto]

Nah 4 10 10 or 4 10 7 is enough for pvp

[gritty ridge]

You'd have to use manchor with her, so its already very iffy

[graceful grotto]

I just bring her higher cause I wanna justify using scar in solo raid

[umbral belfry]

the moment i saw my scar failed to nuke i brought up trina's burst to 10 never again

only in CA did she fail to nuke but that was against a 170k max core cindy so i'd say fair

[graceful grotto]

If my scar couldn't nuke I blame my scar for the lack of rock rng

[fiery parcel]

That's a whale cindy

[umbral belfry]

my scar is pretty meh i won't deny that

[graceful grotto]

U and me both

[umbral belfry]

had i ran trina + rh it would've been easy, but i believe in the scar scar propaganda

[fiery parcel]

Im not sure if my scar is any good lr not

[graceful grotto]

Same lolol

[umbral belfry]

gimme that black line att

[graceful grotto]

I refuse to bring red Hood in kewk

[gritty ridge]

Ik, but theres only like 3 distributed dmg nikke

[fiery parcel]

88% ele, but not sure if any good in pvp

[graceful grotto]

Which is way too easy to be countered in pvp so not worth trying to make them work

[umbral belfry]

11% atk, could use a wee bit more. but overall not bad

wait wtf

[graceful grotto]

Against water unit so Emilia and HelmT

[gritty ridge]

Im trying to innovate

[umbral belfry]

ah ah ah you best get that hit rate and charge speed off of scar

[gritty ridge]

Does distributed feed jackal?

[umbral belfry]

It should? But not sure. when we talk about 'feed', we talk about weapon types, not effects

[gritty ridge]

Well it'd be hitting jackal and her 2 links

[odd lantern]

yes - but it's small

[fiery parcel]

Bad OL lines?

[graceful grotto]

I think the worst is trying to reroll charge speed

[umbral belfry]

Not horrible, but scar having hit rate and CS literally does nothing for her

Those could be Atk OLs

[umbral belfry]

[graceful grotto]

Doesn't scar benefit from hit rate?

[umbral belfry]

Csm?

[graceful grotto]

Being AR and all

[umbral belfry]

Maybe in PvE. but hit rate does nothing in pvp

if you're running scar in pve (for some reason ) then by all means. but at least get rid of charge speed 😭

[fiery parcel]

I didnt know this

I wonder why not

[umbral belfry]

and now you do

[odd lantern]

hit rate is good in pve

because ARs dont have enough hit rate to hit the core sometimes

[strong hull]

Even my Maxwell OLed

[graceful grotto]

My Maxwell also OL kewk

[fiery parcel]

Hahaha

[swift mango]

The distribution damage hit from SBS could target unlinked unit too and even cause misindom if the enemy DEF is crooked, from a low DEF SR Anis for example.

[swift mango]

ofc that's normal because you are Solo raid MA.

[swift mango]

Hit rate does help a little outside of arena.

[swift mango]

Not so staple in the last 2 solo raid when people use SG without Tove lol

[tropic summit]

trina rumani and laplaceT will allow you to fix some different teams, the most direct upgrade atm for you

T1: upgrade to 2RL, but only make it if it doesn't tank CP (you'll need to invest in rumani)
T2: removes 1 SG feed
T3: as long as your laplaceT doesn't steal scarlet's link with jackal (jackal links with the 2 highest atk% + OL included units)

investing in those 3 is still useful for offense teams, trina especially allows a particular scarlet team to be run on attack to make life easy

notes: once trina is invested, you could run a 2RL variant of scarlet team, but again it will tank your CP compared to running a treasured unit or a SBS flex, like atm

@swift mango you used to play this right?

[swift mango]

I wished it was something that mainstream.

[tropic summit]

sounds wild though, needs so much time/dedication

[swift mango]

But yeah basically the same thing

[tropic summit]

ohoh i see

[swift mango]

Waking up at 2-3am for war is fun.

[tropic summit]

think i'll pass, but was an interesting read

didn't know there were such warriors facing that struggle daily

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Some guys even had to go to WC during work to send troop.

I blame Travian and that Germany professor that started this genre of game.

[graceful grotto]

do people actually use SG team without tove?

[chilly furnace]

In pvp

[swift mango]

Some of them did, if you check top solo raid ranking last season.

They used DKW and Blanc-Noir instead. Faster cycle, more reliable buff.

[high stream]

Why did I lose this? I was able to beat this guy before

[graceful grotto]

Maybe they're just tired of the Tove rng kewk

[graceful grotto]

What do you have? U have biscuit?

[high stream]

Actually .. it might just be CP difference, I'm at 16% CP diff against this guy now .. sigh.

[high stream]

I do

[graceful grotto]

Show your box, arranged by CP

[high stream]

I just need to beat his third team. I'm ignoring his 1st team.
His 2nd team gets crushed by me

[graceful grotto]

Noah / Biscuit / HelmT / Red Hood / Jackal

What's the second team you're up against and what are the team you use?

[high stream]

All these teams were just recently build with the help of this channel.

I'm building towards a much more serious PvP approach and working on Meta teams

[graceful grotto]

Well if your second team works then you can just take T1 to T3

[high stream]

But it will get crushed due to CP diff, lol.

166K vs 218K

[graceful grotto]

You can take out rumani, slot jackal instead

What will ur cp be like

[high stream]

181K

So still a 16.5% diff

[graceful grotto]

Hold on, technically you should win even if siren stun you

[high stream]

My current 188K team still has a 16% CP diff, it might just be that .. the 181K team would have actually more like a 17-18% diff

So almost 40% statt diff at that point, not good.

[graceful grotto]

While CP gap does matter, Noah will be protected by biscuit

And Cindy nuke should still be able to take them out

I don't like the idea of siren stunning Noah though

[high stream]

I just said f### it and ran it. I'm surprised. So a 17% diff is beatable.

[graceful grotto]

Oh it works hahaha

Nice, glad it helps

[high stream]

Good to know. I probably can't defend against this guy for sh## though, so he'll just take it back.

[graceful grotto]

It is as long as the team is protected

A red Hood burst b3 is really easy to counter too

[shell hazel]

you are at cp deficit here, invest your girls better

the minute you step below 84.6% cp you take an instant stat hit

[high stream]

I'm doing everything I can. I don't think I can invest much better .. just need more RNG and time at this point.
I even started doing 50 gem wipeout now .. and also rotating my Anomaly runs more for more gear pieces I'm missing

[shell hazel]

having even 1k more cp would avoid the 20% stat penalty on that fight

[high stream]

Yup, I'm aware of this, it was explained to me at length a few days ago

My biggest resource problems right now are maintenance kits and actual gear pieces to OL.
I have the credits and the gear exp to do so.

[shell hazel]

you def can they're stat gapping you with SR anis and no doll lol

[swift mango]

She need B.Alice to be stable, but that disallowed them to use Blanc+Noir. I have seen people use tove and DKW with blanc+noir for similar results. But the rank 1 in SEA used DKW, that's why.

[shell hazel]

need to OL them and add dolls etc, sure it takes time but worth it

[high stream]

My guy, I'm not sure you're understanding. Tell me about my gear RNG. There is nothing to OL.

[shell hazel]

you can swap in a higher cp unit sometimes to beat the gap, they're partially able to do so because of Alice + RH probably being built

[swift mango]

just keep beating mirror for the hand

[high stream]

Meanwhile I have this for example. My luck is all over the place with these pieces

[swift mango]

just keep beating mirror everyday for either of the arm pieces.

[high stream]

I thought about switching to boots tomorrow, then to gloves .. Most pieces I'm missing now are boots and gloves. I've farmed chest pieces the last 2 days and got quite lucky
Only 3 chest pieces missing in my pvp teams .. but 6 boots and 7 gloves

[shell hazel]

farm what you need the most in terms of spread of drops

[swift mango]

just keep beating mirror everyday for either of the arm pieces.

[shell hazel]

I've been there/done that so I do get it

[high stream]

Alright, then Arms first, then Boots I guess

[shell hazel]

I'd prio the ones where more drops are useful

basic OL adds a lot more CP and utility than gloves here

[high stream]

I'm missing ..
3 Helmets
4 Chests
6 Boots
7 Gloves

[shell hazel]

you can use the co-op bones for a t9m selector every now and then as well

[high stream]

I suppose one mistake I made was farming Ultra for pretty much a month trying to get SBS and Scarlet helmet. Delayed other pieces

[shell hazel]

I was farming chests for 6-7 weeks to get Cindy one lol

the gear RNG is pretty bad, it should be a bit easier now with the bones thing

[swift mango]

It's

Chest > Helm > Arm > = Boot for tanker

HelmT > Arm > Chest > Boot for dps.

Idk what you are talking about.

[high stream]

Yeah, it sucks. Quite a few of these people in my bracket have like 750K CP .. and I can't increase my CP much further even if I wanted. Since .. no pieces to OL.

I can level skills more .. but all are 4/4/4 already .. and key units are at optimal investment. Like Cindy is 10 7 10 ..

[shell hazel]

at this stage being cp gapped because you can't OL anything is more of a problem

[high stream]

And I don't think that would give that much CP

[shell hazel]

later you can prioritise overloading in a better order

[swift mango]

and he lack 7 arm.

[shell hazel]

yeah if they need arms the most, run arms

I don't disagree with that 🙂

[high stream]

Yeah, I'll farm more arms starting tomorrow I think. But I actually got really lucky @swift mango . 2 Days ago I was also missing 7 chests. Now it's just 3. So last 2 days were good.

[shell hazel]

I originally thought they may have been stuck trying to run arms for like 2 units when everything else was needed

[high stream]

No, it was exactly this .. but Helmets.

I was trying to finish my big, important, key units and also Campaign team.
So I was grinding Helmet for SBS .. to have the SBS/Alice campaign team next to my RH, RRH campaign team
And Scarlet Helmet to work on her gear .. since Cindy is 4x OL already.

A lot of this was based on PvP Guide on prydwen, which said stat priority for PvP are certain key units .. like ur tanks want tons of HP, so invest into their gear and dolls .. but DPS also want stats, so invest into those as well.

[shell hazel]

my Alice is kind of built but I'll be honest if you got Rapi/RH etc done you don't really need Alice for anything

[high stream]

So I tried to farm for the key units as shown on Prydwen and delayed CP total quite a bit

[swift mango]

just keep farming until when you have only 1 gear missing then use the selector

[shell hazel]

you need OK built SBS for chapter 33 onwards in story

[high stream]

Well, but right now I'm still missing 2 important helmets. But you said to just stop for now and farm Arms, correct?

[shell hazel]

if you got RH you could just more or less skip alice building for now

[swift mango]

You could focus on OL your Campaign first before Arena team.

So count what you are lacking for Campaign team alone

and farm the most missing type.

[high stream]

My Alice is a monster, strongest unit I have. But her ideal team is behind right now.
My two campaign teams .. all at max investment. Almost all are 4x OL .. All Skills are 10/10/10 or optimal like Alice 10/4/10

[shell hazel]

I run the left team most of the time

my Alice has good cp but in reality I find the left team does better

she's manual heavy as well

[swift mango]

I am running the left team and burst 1 with RH instead of Siren.

[high stream]

Me too, SBS/Alice is for when I need the AoE. But right now, it doesn't even matter, cause the deficit hurts
I'm currently stuck at 30-34 Boss, 30% deficit, despite pushing some levels .. Before that it was 33% deficit, but still can't beat him.
And that means .. if I switch to SBS team, deficit shoots up to like .. 35%+, so SBS aoe doesnt help

[high stream]

Same.

[high stream]

Considering that I beat as high as 37% deficit .. I think I'm quite good at manual in this game and breaking insane deficits. But it does get exhausting, most brutal deficit I beat was close to 60 tries.

[swift mango]

Alice is pretty useless now. Unless you play on PC and use macro or have a quick hand.

[shell hazel]

siren adds a fair bit of personal damage, it works well enough without relying on RH as only b1

also Rapi just becomes b1 if you take siren out

[high stream]

PC and I guess I'm good at manual? Like I said .. I can beat like 33-37% deficits pretty consistently. I'm pushing constantly essentially, there is no break. I don't know when I saw the last like .. sub 30% deficit

Must have been at least .. 5 or 6 chapters ago.

So that's why I tried to maintain the Alice team as well

But now the deficit with the Alice team isnt managable for me anymore. It gets close to 40% and there seems to be nothing I can do

[swift mango]

I could beat 33% deficit on phone even. With Rapipi around people is beating 44% deficit. So you are not really good.

[high stream]

But dont be fooled, left team cant beat the deficit either

[swift mango]

and my rapipi only 1 atk, 2 ele line

[high stream]

Well, I was told that anything above 35% is only consistently beaten by a very small portion of the player base. And I've looked aorund for videos of 40%+ deficit beats .. there are essentially none. At least online it seems so rare, u can count existing evidence on hand.

[raven plover]

please tell me sora is b3

[high stream]

So, while I wont claim that u're wrong .. unless I see evidence, I'll assume beating close to 40% deficit consistently is quite good.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[shell hazel]

I beat 30-34 with this

[swift mango]

We have enough B3 boss. Give me Defender B2 with Clip SG gen.

[raven plover]

no this time is the time I wish a better b3 healer than quiry

[swift mango]

Feed like someone wasted their skill mats for Naga.

[high stream]

Pretty much the team I tried, but my Naga is a lot weaker. So you're sitting at 250K CP there, I drop to like 235K

[shell hazel]

this was a while ago, 250K cp

[swift mango]

How is she a healer.

[raven plover]

which one, sora or quiry

[swift mango]

Sora.

[raven plover]

thats the patch note said

she heals and clean debuffs

[shell hazel]

Helm instead should work, your Helm is similar CP to my Naga there

you could Rapi b1 like I did instead of Siren

[high stream]

I tried that. What I didn't try is Rapi B1 instead of Siren, I could try that.

[shell hazel]

you can also push a little cp by going +1 or +2 on already OL gear

it's not a lot but hey, adds up

[swift mango]

Then it's better be B1 to counter siren. Too overlap with Quiry if she is burst 3. Same Manufacturer, RL weapon and wind code.

[high stream]

What skill from the boss did u deactivate?
And if I use HelmT, I'll have to use her burst to heal, costing me a lot of damage.
That's a problem I've run into a lot. I slowly die.

[shell hazel]

I killed the crystal each time

[swift mango]

Stupid choice if she is B3 too.

[shell hazel]

can use pause tech to move cursor to it

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-anime-anya-crying-crying-crying-anime-girl-spy-x-family-gif-25998648

b3 please

[shell hazel]

think it's right one? the left one takes too much damage away

[high stream]

Hm .. let me give it a shot

[atomic wolf]

SUNLIGHT

[shell hazel]

you can RH B1 the first bit as well to get a decent start

need to kill the horns it's key

[vapid lake]

she have a trash kit based just on description, but there is potential here if she's clip RL

[shell hazel]

most B3's don't have good gen though for RL :9

[swift mango]

Just make her B1 to counter Siren and Soda

[high stream]

I did exactly so, then had to burst Cindy for Crystal .. Problem 1, Cindy can not destroy the crystal. Even after putting it to half with RH.

[shell hazel]

control rapi or RH is easier to lock stuff

[high stream]

I could weaken left Crystal as much as possible with RH and gamble .. restart if its the wrong crystal

[shell hazel]

yeah there is RNG on what crystal gets removed

it's not an easy fight still you may need to push CP more

[high stream]

It's a 30% deficit right now .. u beat it at a 33% from what I can tell.
So I should be able to. Just gotta lock in.

[shell hazel]

you will get cp gated at 32 chapter boss for sure

yeah just push the little bits you can, get all your main team to +1 or +2 on OL gear levels

it's cheap enough to just do it and will add a few k cp

[swift mango]

Anyway, I have some some hope to use the Nero team without Rapu now.

[graceful grotto]

Girl looks like a pvp unit

[swift mango]

Forward...

[shell hazel]

I was toying with nero comps, will be interesting to see what keripo comes up with

[graceful grotto]

From team building so still same server

[raven plover]

clip RL mentioned

[shell hazel]

man if she's clip RL then... I'm doomed lol

I'll be mileage on something as I need Nier units as well

[swift mango]

Lemme do a better screenshot...

[shell hazel]

if she's b1 clip RL then it's a competitor to jackal/rumani potentially and would change the pvp dynamics again

[graceful grotto]

She cleanse too

[graceful grotto]

B1 heal + cleanse, basically stun counter lmao

[shell hazel]

yeah for scar comp

[swift mango]

That's why she better be b1 to counter siren

[graceful grotto]

The soda built now

Just a dream

[swift mango]

Soda it still defending on who burst first.

[graceful grotto]

Soda stun can be taunt right? But the second would be random so yeah still rng reliance unless you bring 2 taunters

[swift mango]

I don't think she can counter Soda. Unless she could still burst if stunned.

[graceful grotto]

Passive burst be insane lmao

[shell hazel]

nah doubt it, if soda stuns her then gg

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19495351

[swift mango]

Anyway, with RL+Heal+Cleanse she will definitely find use in Arena.

[shell hazel]

if she's not clip RL might still be good as Rapu swap on moran team

or LapT/Mana

[swift mango]

Rapu importance is on the Revive though.

Gonna be hard.

[shell hazel]

yeah, guess we'll see how her shooting animation looks might provide a clue for clip RL

[tropic summit]

her kit looks interesting and alternative to rapunzel, ade and noise

if she's B1 gud stuff

in fact B2 might be even better

[swift mango]

I have attraction level 30 Ade, but I only see her as Sacc but she doesn't have enough Burst gen to warrant it so she is still unused.

[tropic summit]

ye with teams starving for 2RL ade is a rock to drag around

now make the same but as a RL unit, or even clip RL, that changes a lot of things

[swift mango]

She is basically 5% CASTER ATK buffer and 1 single debuff remover as a sacc. That's it. Hard to justify a use.

[atomic wolf]

he is so stupid i am having the laugh of my lifetime

he can't stun my noah team, he can't oneshot my moran team

[tropic summit]

agreed, very situational

[atomic wolf]

he has to switch his team and nikkes around

all i have to do is to put red hood in the scarlet team when he puts noah behind centi and siren when vice versa

literally pavlovian dog pattern

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest here, you're both being played by a very silly game mechanic and caring too much

but you do what you do

SU creating this kind of environment is kinda sad

[swift mango]

So you are Korean.

Too mad you forgot to change to English before screenshot

[atomic wolf]

Rail lets be honest here

We know this

[tropic summit]

ye...

[atomic wolf]

As in you and me not him

The thing is I am doing this to pressure him for my amusement

And I don't care about my loss

[tropic summit]

ah then it's worth it

keep le bully

[atomic wolf]

[shell hazel]

you tried playing P5X Rail? I've liked what I've seen enough to carry on for now

I'm level 27 ish, could push more but it's hot here 😄

[swift mango]

You apparently do.

[atomic wolf]

bro...

Context he has already get his guaranteed top 3 spot

[tropic summit]

i'm getting too much adrenaline from this

[shell hazel]

I got Joker in 10 pulls on a re-roll, then Ann from the 50 selection on normal starter banner, and another 20 on standard got me Morgana so pretty happy with my start as well

[atomic wolf]

I am at top 4 spot

He is fighting for the ego I am doing this for the funny

If he loses its just more loss for him because he has no reason to attack me when there is one day left and he had guaranteed top 3

[shell hazel]

they aren't running right

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-anime-naruto-uzumaki-run-running-gif-5354482

[atomic wolf]

SPEED DECK GAMIGN

[shell hazel]

this is the correct way to run in anime

[tropic summit]

no naruto running at least

that'd be a turn off

[shell hazel]

have you seen the new anime for it? whole thing is confusing me 😄

[swift mango]

He is a lost cause but so did you.

People often mad when adrenaline got to their head. Need 1 to calm down before the fight stop.

You could win if you hit him every 1-2 hours or so making him tired of it. Or keep hitting when he sleeps.

But if both keep hitting each other every minute then none of you gonna sleep today.

[raven plover]

HARU URARA 🗣️ 🔥

[shell hazel]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/59636/Uma_Musume__Cinderella_Gray

[atomic wolf]

Its 5:34pm for me idgaf lul

[raven plover]

now win kinen with haru

[shell hazel]

you seen that cinderella grey one Rail? my friend said it was good. They aren't trying the gacha game though I did mention it was coming to global 😛

[swift mango]

Anyway, keep telling us which of you winning in the end.

[swift mango]

Moral of the story: Pink always win.

[tropic summit]

i heard it's possible... but the effort to get the right aptitude will be maybe in the far off future

[tropic summit]

well she's cute and precious, but i'm actually more of a scarlet sucker, for 2 big reasons

[crystal surge]

help

my t1 won the rest lost

[swift mango]

2 big stories to tell.

[tropic summit]

2 big dreams, and twintails

[shell hazel]

you make 2 great points

[edgy wagon]

can someone build me a new team for sp arena,my current team are
centi biscuit reiT rrh xmaiden
ein blanc scarlet noir jackal
alice sbs liter crown cindy

[tropic summit]

bay solves this one quite easily, need her on 2OL (body + head) 4/4/4

[crystal surge]

which one

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

record for T2 just in case, but it should be fine

[crystal surge]

uhh why is there 2 centi's

[swift mango]

He already said his Scar lost against Cindy.

[crystal surge]

uhh my dumb brain can't read this

oop wrong position

[tropic summit]

do you've bay?

[crystal surge]

yes

[tropic summit]

noah is still open so either flex in p5 instead of helmT or use noah in p1 instead of centi

just balance as CP needed

as you can see speed won't change

oh nvm trina is in p2

arrange as needed to let B2 be run by bay or noah, you get the drift

[atomic wolf]

im starting to hate cindy

of all the people she could not clip its drake

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind helmt liter
scarlet siren trina xmaiden jackal
blanc sbs biscuit noir rumani

[crystal surge]

soo like this?

skip t3

[quick lake]

She's here! My Healer

Quiry's skill description:
Her Burst Skill restores all allies' HP, enhancing the squad's survivability

[swift mango]

Then you realized your Quiry is max core and she is lb0

[quick lake]

No. I dont have Quiry. I will use Sora to replace her

My Milk + Sora meta will work!

[graceful grotto]

milk + sora? in this economy?

[quick lake]

I cope she's B3

[graceful grotto]

i hope she b1 kewk

[shell hazel]

b2 would be good but not as good as b1 clip

[graceful grotto]

B1 healer + cleanse + clip? it would be heaven

[shell hazel]

with b2 you can't replace trina as you need her atk buff for scar

if b1 clip new meta would be scar/trina/sora

[graceful grotto]

if u do scar blanc technically u can but u won't need healing if u gonna indo

[raven plover]

you mean shes b3?

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[quick lake]

Just hope she's not B1

[graceful grotto]

imagine she's b2 and she's good in both pve and pvp

one can dream

[quick lake]

b2 too competitive in pve

[graceful grotto]

can replace blanc

[quick lake]

Wonder it'll be clipRL

[raven plover]

b3 and clip RL ?!

https://tenor.com/view/nicolascage-breezy-smiling-feelinggood-niceweather-gif-4961337

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

If she's B1 healer/cleanser, u possibly cleanse jackal/rosanna maybe not

[raven plover]

b1 cleanse wont be useful for siren

[graceful grotto]

if she's b3 her cleanse is basically useless

[quick lake]

But would B2/3 help against Siren/Soda

[graceful grotto]

the idea behind her cleanse is for her to cleanse the debuff unit (stunned) so they can burst

[quick lake]

Data||mines|| initially put her as B2

[swift mango]

She just beat siren

[raven plover]

beat siren on what

[shell hazel]

her cleanse may also provide immunity for a short time

so could still apply to anti-siren

[graceful grotto]

man this somewhat reminds me of summoners war lmao

[swift mango]

Stop her stun to even happening.

[raven plover]

so like hippo said

[quick lake]

B1 then immune to bad status for XXX seconds

[graceful grotto]

could be useful in a stall team tho

[raven plover]

the wording is instant heal, and shes a support, so thats why I want it to be b3 instead

[swift mango]

Siren stun need a bubble debuff she inflicted at start of Battle.

[raven plover]

right

[quick lake]

I hope so too

[tropic summit]

you need to burst with either noah in any position but p1 or bay in p3 or p4 or p5
team needs to be 2RL

other team only needs p1 and p5 as defenders, with biscuit, ideally 2RL but can also 3RL

[vapid lake]

i hope sora is trash so skippable

[tropic summit]

for pvp if her kit is consistent with the description, she has potential

healer + debuff remover is kinda strong with a meta where things like blanc exist

[vapid lake]

i know but im hoping shes just trash

[tropic summit]

ye reasonable, we all wanna save on gems

[vapid lake]

i have a feeling ein's dmg bug affects pvp too

if she cant receive her own burst's dmg buff her dmg drops off a cliff

[swift mango]

she can't?

[vapid lake]

burst +55% true dmg

shes not doing true dmg

[swift mango]

"her true dmg Not doing true dmg"

is not "her dmg isn't true dmg"

[unique wagon]

Sora is gonna be op in pvp

[strong hull]

[vague slate]

3 banners on July 3rd? Time to rinse my tickets & gems again

[onyx scaffold]

4

[vague slate]

Sora + 2 nier or is there going to be a 3rd nier

Ohh eve yeah fair, 3 new*

[onyx scaffold]

no. only 2 new

[vague slate]

hol up you lost me again

[onyx scaffold]

it is intended

[tropic summit]

sauce?

trust me bro?

[queen halo]

Well, her kit says a 'substantial HP heal' so it will already be great for PvP as it's (from the wording) an instant heal than a heal x over y seconds type heal

[tropic summit]

rapu mark II

[copper creek]

sora + 3 nier (2 ssr, 1 pascal) is correct

[tropic summit]

oh time to get pascal actually

more clip RL

[wide shard]

She is a RL? Right? Non zero odds she is a clip reloader

[copper creek]

wait for kit then we will know for sure
speculating blindly is like holding d-ck in hand, gets nobody anywhere

[tropic summit]

it's still Schrödinger

[wide shard]

It is not like Kit analysis went wrong before right?

[swift mango]

Someone copium for new Nier gacha.

[keen vapor]

Is Quiry 2

[onyx scaffold]

Eve raven

[swift mango]

If you wanted to count that's 5.