pvp-arena

[willow raven]

emilia? i dont have her

[strong hull]

Do you have his blabla?

[willow raven]

who should i use for rookie arena

is this ok

[swift mango]

No but there is a website that shows higher synch level players and other rankings. Keripo also showed his level before.

[swift mango]

Please tell me it's not SR Anis.

[willow raven]

i have collected many maintenance kits so its ok... probably

[willow raven]

[shell hazel]

SR-15 Anis so close

[keen vapor]

Not sure Blood

[crystal flicker]

Cindy comp most stable imo

Losing is so boring bruh

I hate this part from CA

[summer copper]

Winning isn’t any more fun

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/based-kneel-kamen-rider-faiz-kamen-rider-faiz-gif-10975460674012783935

[keen vapor]

So, we have maintenance

[wild patio]

power up time

before

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-3-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-daima-goku-db-daima-gif-8137129875719987092

[swift mango]

Better than SR10 on Neon at least.

[shell hazel]

time to see if I lost (I probably lost)

5-0 😄

[swift mango]

That's some skill issue.

Idk know if anyone out there with 5 times runner up in right now. Probably most hilarious.

The eternal rank #2.

[shell hazel]

my matchups on this one were pretty unfavourable

will cook anew for next CA I guess, if they patch this solo raid one day I can get LapT sorted

no specific bad performing teams in my set this time really, just RNG on opponents

[keen vapor]

My SG team is bad performing
As usual

[shell hazel]

ah yes, the old maiden survives alone 😛

[swift mango]

I don't care much about win lose ratio during the season. Just the matches that I think I could use as an experience to improve upon.

[keen vapor]

Is still the intended result

[shell hazel]

I like to track if a team is losing most of it's matches or not I guess, nothing crazy just high level stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyA6YTzp9U

[keen vapor]

Wow, pepper

[swift mango]

Sometime a team win 100% but I couldn't find any good match up to see from them. It still suck.

[fading ermine]

sad

[shell hazel]

my matches ^
1 - I expected to lose this
2 - couldn't kill anchor quick enough so they got to burst and SG vs SG always a bit ???
3 - scar powerful enough to wipe and I guess cindy RNG on targeting, unsure if my noise burst before siren stun but I think so?
4 - maiden probably fed them some here to speed up their burst, RH got indom without bursting but was still enough to finish off my team
5 - unbuffed SBS can't power through the heals/res but indom fired like I wanted

[shell hazel]

she's got decent burst gen just double edge sword as she feeds due to SG

[raven plover]

yea fahrenheit all max core just

[shell hazel]

my opponent here is a 🐳 got a bunch of max cores

and they invested as well, so it's double

they're 30 syncs ahead of me but I'm like 5 chapters ahead in hard mode so I guess they pve skill issue? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel my next one is 50/50

[crystal flicker]

Didn't expect Noir to solo Centi b4 3RL

[umbral belfry]

chad uninvested noir

[hollow lagoon]

Oof my last one was close

[shell hazel]

your next opponent looks tougher than your last one

[crystal flicker]

Is this SAnis seriously surviving Cindy Nuke with only Biscuit Burst

[gritty ridge]

I should be faster, yes?

Yes

[hollow lagoon]

gonna be a derpy one

cinder scarlet trade

i think my indom loses

my rosana might lose honestly no clue

i think ym stall wins

[unique mountain]

Did blood make it

[worthy knoll]

That is why you run Noah with Cindy to avoid any chance of life steal

[shell hazel]

can you flip the teams and re-send please? my head can't deal with the teams being upside down 😄

[swift mango]

Woa I thought you would win at least one.

[swift mango]

I still haven't log in.

[shell hazel]

your anis is extremely dead in t1

[hollow lagoon]

that's good

tho redhood might die

[shell hazel]

t2 it may depend if soda stuns noah, if so you're def gone, if not hard to say anyway they're quite a bit faster

[swift mango]

You would probably lose if Anis died in 1-2 volley.

Basically before she even attack once

[hollow lagoon]

whos defend again?

top or borrom in ca

[shell hazel]

bottom is def in the CA

I prefer seeing top def in the compare

[hollow lagoon]

well

[shell hazel]

so you're attacking

[hollow lagoon]

welp then i lose

their indom is slower

[shell hazel]

their indom is extremely slow though I guess biscuit stops blanc dead

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

splash may kill their SBS at least means their indom will suck

does lapT cause splash damage?

[hollow lagoon]

their drake is only 98k noir and bsoda only 7.5k, anis might not die

[shell hazel]

your anis is probably dead

she is 70k = dead

[hollow lagoon]

breh their noir and bsoda is on blue doll

barely invested

and no ol

possible she might shoot 1 atk

[shell hazel]

your team 4 is probably dead, siren will stun scarlet before b3, and then you burst into noah

[hollow lagoon]

siren stun scarlet?

[shell hazel]

unless you have no ammo OL basically

[hollow lagoon]

what they fixed the 28 ammo?

[shell hazel]

if you have 32 or less ammo think you're safe from that

[hollow lagoon]

well i'm 28

[shell hazel]

then she won't

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

you'll dodge it, depends if your scarlet wipes before noah triggers

[hollow lagoon]

they are 3rl

[gritty ridge]

I think i have a chance

[hollow lagoon]

their siren would feed hard doubt they make it

[shell hazel]

she does, you have a chance, siren may even suicide on scar counter

[hollow lagoon]

nah i know hwo dis goes

[shell hazel]

I dislike your 1-3 though

[hollow lagoon]

always win on 2rl scarlet

[shell hazel]

and 5 is almost mirror so could be ???

[hollow lagoon]

my 1-3 is ripped 1 have low chance but it is what it is

5 is me win

my 5 team is more invested

[shell hazel]

oh your mana is pretty built yep I just saw

[hollow lagoon]

u need strong scarlet or cinder team to crack it

[shell hazel]

if you win any of 1-3 there is then a decent chance you pull through

[gritty ridge]

I was wrong

[hollow lagoon]

2-3 hard doubt, 1 is the only one that can possibally pull thru

[gritty ridge]

It was looking promising until helm ate 5 shots from rh like it was nothing

[shell hazel]

bro I'm certain you've had deficit mentioned to you a bunch of times in this thread! lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but i had a good feeling about this one

[shell hazel]

you can calculate it using mscalc or online calc, you're doomed there before you even start

[gritty ridge]

Only around 30%

[shell hazel]

it's a 24% deficit and you fall off a cliff after about 15%

good luck in your next match Zant, I'll be considering my next teams to send meanwhile

it's funny how many SG on team 2 I saw, I kind of did mine randomly but I see your matches have that, and my last 2 did as well

[hollow lagoon]

i feel like i should invest in sg?

but like...... eahhhhhh

[umbral belfry]

think i make it into top8

[umbral belfry]

I was gonna say don't do it but I saw too late

helm would nuke your link + noah likely got stunned before burst

[shell hazel]

I'll eventually invest in every team to be good enough

just needs time/resources

I want options so it means having a good roster of units I can send and will do well enough, I don't necessarily want to always send the same comps each time, more fun to experiment a bit

[gritty ridge]

My link is siren lmao

Also my siren stunned theirs first

[umbral belfry]

rh siren jackal linked then

[gritty ridge]

It was promising until helm ate my whole burst with no crumbs

[umbral belfry]

which means helm would target highest attack (rh)

actually looking at the numbers it doesn't even look like anyone bursted 😭

[shell hazel]

like this scales off the charts, at 24% you're basically 50% stat penalty

[gritty ridge]

We both burst lmao, I just burst first

[umbral belfry]

alas

[swift mango]

Gonna stop at top 16 this time.

Time to rebuild... But I'm reading a comic to an arc's climax so I will stop for now.

[vague slate]

[umbral belfry]

we in

my moran bay helm team is superior

[vague slate]

crazy how similar the 5th teams are

[umbral belfry]

sbs blanc rapu battle

[vague slate]

I thought P4 would be the tough battle but its rosanna vs jackal

Will your team survive the burst?

[umbral belfry]

it's likely a loss, but it can be winnable

scar? unlikely

if rosa survives to kill scar + rh I'd win that, but usually sg rosa vs scar jackal is unlikely

but possible

it's likely w w w l rng

[placid bloom]

their positioning is weird

[umbral belfry]

it is, but I don't think it'd matter

[placid bloom]

why they bursting Jackal instead of RH

[umbral belfry]

that's a good question 😭

[vague slate]

Ok I gotta keep an eye out on it tomorrow, their scar isn't crazy invested

[umbral belfry]

even without scar invested but trina buffs my sg team is squishy

[warm monolith]

Who would win?

[umbral belfry]

it entirely depends on if rosa survives long enough to nuke scar

but i still see that fight as a L

[placid bloom]

you're on Def or Atk?

[umbral belfry]

me?

[placid bloom]

yeah

[umbral belfry]

def

so I'm hitting linked rh

[vague slate]

*taking notes*

[umbral belfry]

who, even with rosa dispel, should have enough feed to go beyond

[placid bloom]

it's gonna be unliked by 3rd SG volley I think, so you have 3rd to 5th to kill at 2.3RL, which would let Ros burst at 2.7-ish? Which is before Scar B3

[umbral belfry]

yeah

[placid bloom]

fast enough

[umbral belfry]

I mean it's def possible to win but it seems unlikely

thankfully I don't even need that team to win it all, I'm still confident I win t1-t3

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

[spiral onyx]

Here you go
||https://tinyurl.com/keripo-blabla||

[strong hull]

ty big man

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey

This guy Nero team looks similar to you but actually worse lol....

@worldly osprey

Do you have the record of my Emi team vs your Nero yesterday. I thought the loss was too obvious I didn't record it.... But now I wish I did, so I could compare with this guy.

[warm monolith]

Who would win?@swift mango

[swift mango]

Who def?

[warm monolith]

Ca

[swift mango]

I mean top or bottom being attacker

?

[warm monolith]

First is top and second is below on vs

[worldly osprey]

no i dont. my stall team full invest skill, ol and doll sr 15 (quiry sr 10). after emi nuke my team just lost 30-40% hp. just quiry who not burst and cant get reduce dmg form neko under 40% hp

[swift mango]

Maybe it's core difference. Thanks.

Or Moran not max skill

[worldly osprey]

my moran rapu and nero 0 lb XD that y my stall team weak although full invest

[keen vapor]

My Moran is max

[swift mango]

Assuming top guy is on the left of the cheer screen and the attacker. Top would be more likely to win. But this is hard without knowing the investment especially that p1.

[swift mango]

I guess I might be able to make it if Miranda burst instead. Time to switch up the teams.

Thanks.

[worldly osprey]

my stall can block nuke noise cin and scar blanc or scar liter (no b2 buff). but lose scar trina and scar rh. if miranda burst it sure win

btw lose emi rh too

[swift mango]

Maybe you got Crited on Rapu in the Scar+RH (no B2) case.

[gaunt viper]

At this point its all luck . It was 33% last time then 12% before I selected.

[worldly osprey]

no. i mean my moran nero and helmt die with that nuke (nero die cant burst). his scar have good invest. who lower scar blanc invest i can win

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown finally can bet on you 🍿

i didn't even look matchup, gonna go in blind

[swift mango]

You lack CS compared to him in this video. He used HelmT and you feed so couldn't be helped.

There could be a CP deficit too.

He wiped before your Moran burst.

[swift mango]

Maybe your Moran burst in time I'm not sure but your Nero got countered to near death already so not really mattered.

[worldly osprey]

no cp deficit and moran burst before scar burst

[shell hazel]

anyone want to poke holes in my next potential CA set? soda not built enough to link yet so p3 should mean random stun

[swift mango]

Yeah, I was not sure if the Moran burst registered before the wipe. But probably did. Because HelmT was able to survive.

Nero already 20% HP before Moran burst and the wipe killed her with 40% debuff to Dr of Blanc.

[tropic summit]

T1: get soda linked else it's full RNG and loses to mirror
T2: if noise taunt priority, that's decent
T3: try to make it 2.5RL to get moran off when enemy B3 gets off, else it's pretty average
T4: loses to several matchups, do not recommend, but good enough if you don't have anything else
T5: get a better B2, you don't need to be 2.5RL with rosanna, need more SG pressure or sustain/ress (prefer naga,bay, xanne, poli,viperT phase 2)

[worldly osprey]

ah yeah moran burst after. i test with rapu burst and he deal the same dmg

[shell hazel]

t1 - I can try needs OL and such
t2 - she is yes 🙂
t3 - I could move anis here to make that a thing?
t4 - I don't have anything else really lol
t5 - I can put Naga back it's 97% 3RL so needs a few quantums for natural 3RL

but in this case where do I use LapT? 😛

[swift mango]

Yeah, I got similar experience. My 2rl Blanc burst 2 after 2rl Scarlet with HelmT in it burst 3.

Just because too much feeds and their HelmT CS high.

[shell hazel]

oh I guess LapT can stay on t4, I need to add more burst gen to t3 but it's down to charge speed luck I think?

[tropic summit]

drop nero for this, for example

^ this matchup counters SGs and scarlet

[shell hazel]

who do I run on t4 instead of LapT?

[tropic summit]

if you wanna keep nero, i'd rather go this

keep in mind with siren you want nero on p5 instead

[shell hazel]

my bay isn't built so both are possible I guess 😛

[tropic summit]

the bay variant offers survival to 2 archetypes

the nero moran not as much unless it's on b4stial investiment amount

temperance on high lvl, max OL, max skill

[tropic summit]

any SG can fit there

[shell hazel]

that's cool I can play with that variant either way a bit (either Bay or Nero)

Nero p5 means Anis bursting though

[tropic summit]

ye you need a different clip RL there for nero in p5

[shell hazel]

It would have to be maiden or someone else

[tropic summit]

you can shift rumani over, replace drake with pepper and use centi instead

[shell hazel]

drakeT on my SG team

[tropic summit]

drake was an example, use any clip RL

you can use pepper/sugar for all it matters

[worldly osprey]

moran burst before 3 frames scar deal dmg. sure it got delay skill

[swift mango]

Yeah, the burst skill effect is usually delayed by few frames.

[shell hazel]

did I miss anything fundamental? anis on t4 gets biscuit immunity from SG on def in addition

if I roll some CS onto LapT apparently it gets me to 2.5RL at least

[tropic summit]

T1: i wouldn't recommend unlinked soda, but then again it can go either way, just pray you don't get mirrored and believe in RNGesus
T2: decent, although noah non 2RL is abusable by any 2RL wipe, aim for at least 2.5RL to punish single buff scarlet
T3: same issue as above, plus too much feed
T4: average
T5: i personally put rosanna in p3 or p4 just to avoid weird targetting on burst, but i don't have track record on the "incidents". Also, leftmost SG should be your squishiest

[umbral crown]

Kaya might get his revenge tho cuz my T5 has a high chance to lose and Team 1 as well, so in kinda dependin on T2,T3 and T4 to win

[tropic summit]

in rosy we trust, all in no ragrets

[umbral crown]

Cuz team 1 is 2.5

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I'll have to work on Soda with OL and such but worst case I think I can just RH b1 it for the buff instead

for now I left her at p3 because she'll die unlinked elsewhere 😛

[tropic summit]

ye reasonable

[shell hazel]

if I apply some CS I can get 2/3 a bit quicker

I need CS on LapT to do it but it's not miles off already, just going to see what my last piece gets me

my Noah + Centi are 15% CS essentially so near to 2.5RL probably combined

better? needs 3 quantums on cindy comp though so no vigor for noise

otherwise it's like 99.5% 2.5RL

[umbral belfry]

@vague slate

[tropic summit]

moran nero i'd argue should be mandatory 2.5RL, just to give you a chance to survive 2RL nukes

[shell hazel]

I could rapu instead of pepper for T4, can only burst once but it's probably fine, less feed and keeps 3RL if I give a quantum to Anis

[tropic summit]

ye this one is way better

[tropic summit]

anis in p5 is asking for you to misindom against even just 1 SG pressure

[shell hazel]

I suppose that is true, though if I'm facing SG and they're attacking Anis like that... they'll keep shooting indom anis for 10 sec whilst SBS cuts them down lol

[tropic summit]

not if there's a rosanna and drakeT

[shell hazel]

but a single SG could misindom

[tropic summit]

she'll get sniped

[shell hazel]

alt option?

[tropic summit]

rumani or centi in p5, sugar or pepper in p4

use anis anywhere else

[sullen zenith]

Any ideas to beat this team?
I don't have humanity, rosanna, Moran, and lap built btw

[shell hazel]

original problem Rail where Anis is b2 on nero comp

if I move Rumani over

I don't want to split up noah/centi they both have the same CS and should speed that team up with cindy/noise

[tropic summit]

then accept the risks you've to deal with until you fix CS%

[placid bloom]

I don't think you worry too much about Blanc SBS, that team has awful win rate anyway

[tropic summit]

i used to run it myself but then noticed it lost to too many archetypes to even bother

it's an alternative if you don't have anything else

[placid bloom]

it's there to specifically punish uninvested SG

that's all, I think it loses almost every other matchup

[tropic summit]

it wins against 3RL same speed nuke

but nobody is really running that anymore

[placid bloom]

only other 3RL team still floating around is probably 3RL Noah Biscuit Cindy, which it should lose too

[shell hazel]

without moving centi out of t2, how do I fix team 3/4 to be at least the best I can have them?

[tropic summit]

i'd just scratch everything and run 3 good teams

you're in no position to realistically have 5 solid teams anyway

aim for 3 good teams or 3 balanced + 1 doable

[shell hazel]

that's kind of what I'm trying to do here, somewhat balanced teams

[tropic summit]

noah 2RL
cindy/helmT 2RL
scarlet 2RL (jackaless if needed)
whatever left on 2.5RL stall/noise/moran
filleroni prayge

[shell hazel]

ok so what makes these teams be teams? 😄

[placid bloom]

I feel like 3RL Nero Moran is not real at our sync this is something people do at like C7 Moran

[shell hazel]

le box

I have basically everyone except viper and the old collab units like emi/s.anis

LapT is just waiting on solo raid I have plenty of materials to bump her doll to SR-15 and the other stuff is ready to finish that

my rumani needs more OL and such but I've been de-prioritising as usually she isn't in front tanking

if you can cook such teams with the chess pieces on the board Rail I will run them for CA7 😛

[tropic summit]

you can cook on your own, CA archetypes are pretty solid as is

just hit whatever archetype you can focusing on 3, possible those that offer multiple counters

as above

noah 2RL
cindy/helmT 2RL
scarlet 2RL (jackaless if needed)
whatever left on 2.5RL stall/noise/moran

[shell hazel]

how do I Noah 2RL without HelmT though

[tropic summit]

noah 2RL doesn't specifically have to be cindy

[shell hazel]

sorry not Cindy

[tropic summit]

the other variants are running DPS B3s or B3s that can run on no buffers

s.anis, RH, sbs or single buff nukes like ein, rei

[shell hazel]

what I sent before was my attempt to cook, I don't disagree with what you're saying but I can't really re-imagine my whole team set that easily here

[tropic summit]

then don't

CA is an extra rookie mode, just test whatever you feel like

what is deciding is your team order, after that let jesus take the wheel

[shell hazel]

alright, well I don't necessarily want to massively deviate from what I had in that case

[tropic summit]

sounds good

at the end of the day i'm just sharing feedback on my own experience in CA

[shell hazel]

if 1/2/5 are locked, how do I change 3/4 to at least be sensible?

[tropic summit]

the experience is:

-any non 2RL or 2.5RL gets b**f*ed
-it's all about team order

[tropic summit]

you don't, commit to 3 or 4 teams as we said earlier

[shell hazel]

I can promote 3 to 2.5RL with some CS roll on LapT. I can't promote 4 to anything needs way too much OL/CS

[tropic summit]

then that's about it

go with what you can

[shell hazel]

I dunno I'd love to but I don't have the pieces to make the teams you mentioned really

[tropic summit]

probably a good thing considering your synch, if you did that'd mean you probably slacked on pve

[shell hazel]

I don't mind stepping through and trying but I'd need a hand, if it's leave it to me then I'm deadge even more than running this

[tropic summit]

look CA is really simple

there's 6-7 archetypes

you make those you can, those you can't just leave filleroni team

prioritize those archetypes that suffer less from counters and possibly offer more counters

else you're accepting risks of being countered

[shell hazel]

well looking at it like this - 2RL scarlet is simple enough right? only so many things actually make that work

[tropic summit]

ye

[shell hazel]

scarlet/trina/flex/flex/flex

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet is no brainer

[shell hazel]

I actually already have one there, with feed that should be 2RL

[tropic summit]

assuming you don't mind losing mirrors, can be run jackaless

although it will also raise odds of losing against SG teams + rosanna

[lusty gull]

probably next update

[vague slate]

Thanks for the app

[shell hazel]

I ran a 2RL scarlet last time, it did OK, but it's high feed due to maiden

and jackaless

[tropic summit]

feed is irrelevant on that team, you're already on 2RL

your concern there is that scarlet can be deleted by several factors

-loses to mirror
-loses to SGs
-loses to ele weak (laplace)
-loses to 2RL noah
-loses to 2RL bay

jackaless scarlet has the weaknesses above

the advantage is that you open up jackal for an indom team or a 2RL alternative

[lusty gull]

thanks

[shell hazel]

thanks from me also do appreciate it 🙂

[shell hazel]

this is one reason I ran this last time, free up jackal keeping 2RL

[tropic summit]

it's a risk you can take

[lusty gull]

[shell hazel]

so do you think this is a good enough start point? 2RL Scarlet, loses to some, does OK?

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't

[shell hazel]

so what do I change?

[tropic summit]

because we said earlier you're going for 3 teams or 4 teams

meaning jackal def. can stay in scarlet team

@shell hazel work with these

[shell hazel]

this hits 2RL still right?

[tropic summit]

if you run out of batteries, use clip SGs leftovers

[tropic summit]

2RL no feed will keep that team 2.5RL, but at that point you'd probably lose anyway

to hit 2RL on no feed teams you need around 95%

[upper grove]

@crystal flicker remember the cheer I asked you about? The SG team killed the p5 rumani instantly so Rosanna started blasting, failed my cheer because of that

[glad glade]

Is my cheer prediction correct? Top is attacking and bottom (me) is defending. Crossed out teams are the losers

The rounds I am most unsure of are R1 and R2

[upper grove]

Rest was as expected at least

[tropic summit]

this is a team you should aim for imo

quantum is not needed btw

[shell hazel]

loses RH buff though, but should be 2RL even with low feed and Anchor isn't that important a battery

[tropic summit]

ye that's decent

although scarlet goes p2, jackal p1, 3rd linked unit p5

else you're asking for siren to stun you

[shell hazel]

yes indeed, I had it the other way around before because of it being no jackal

it was trina/scarlet and therefore I kind of needed scarlet p1 and gamba on no siren

ok so that works also, so cindy 2RL? is it possible?

[tropic summit]

drop cindy and consider SBS instead

allows you easier gen costs

[shell hazel]

perfect

😄

[tropic summit]

nah you're using 3 clip RLs for that crap, it's noahless even

[placid bloom]

that is a lot of clips gone in 1 team

[tropic summit]

that team can't even kill 2RL helmt+moran or bay teams

[placid bloom]

with no defensive capability

[shell hazel]

it is, so 2RL with SBS instead?

hard to do even with my best leftover batteries I can only just get it

probably dumb

and is still expensive

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[glad glade]

Anyone?

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel you can make an actual 3RL generic team with leftovers

[shell hazel]

I like it

[tropic summit]

let RH be B2, rapu in p1 for the stun luls

[shell hazel]

Neon makes a return 😄

[tropic summit]

if your maiden is trash let RH be B3

can let neon die in p2 for all it matters

alternatively get an actual good B3 but you'll need viper

this is an option

sub xmaiden with maiden in case

[shell hazel]

yeah she's like my only missing unit 😦

[tropic summit]

this one works as both jackal link killer and p1 killer

as long as xmaiden burst is above lvl 7 and invested

assume sugar dies pre 3RL

[shell hazel]

only crust + viper missing outside of event/limited

[placid bloom]

you can do double revive cope technology

[tropic summit]

3.5RL and actually needs time to land DoTs, rather just yolo p1 rapu stun with whatever can deal some dmg during it

[placid bloom]

it's not supposed to beat real teams anyway

[shell hazel]

so no viper, should I run the previous version?

moving xmaiden over from t1 means I'd need a replacement for her in t1

can we add bay cope to this somehow?

[placid bloom]

not really, she only fits into the Biscuit slot but then you're weak to SG

[cold steeple]

Can someone build me teams for special arena? It’s been a long time since I update them

[shell hazel]

nah needs too much quantum anyway

[placid bloom]

at least on p5, Moran can probably facetank

[cold steeple]

These are my units basically I have most of them K, Arcana, Trony, Bready and Chainsaw man Collab

[tropic summit]

any remaining clip SG or laplaceT

T5 is ultra cope anyway, no reason to nerf T1 for that

[shell hazel]

alright thanks Railtracer as usual

I think this is then likely about the best I can field for now

I'll see who links on t1 and put them p1/p2/p5 with jackal p1

[tropic summit]

ye that definitely look way scarier

2 anti nuke teams
1 nuke 2RL team
1 SG snowball pressure
1 generic 3RL

if you had a better bay biscuit could then be used elsewhere

for the sake of killing T5 speed you could also throw a blanc in there for the random indom

[shell hazel]

possible yes

[tropic summit]

blanc could also work instead of naga in T4 for again random indom on possibly drakeT

but you don't wanna kill SG pressure for that imo

[tropic summit]

temperance on helmT and SBS btw

if available then on moran and noah aswell

vigor on noise and rapu

rest can be whatever

[shell hazel]

I have 3 temp cubes

[tropic summit]

noah helmt sbs then

moran can live without, especially with biscuit around

[spiral onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Vz_zIKbkM

[shell hazel]

if I drop rapu I can get blanc in but it's a bit off 3RL and I don't have the quantums to boost 3 units

and the layout is off as I'm not sure how to not get stuff killed too easily 😛

[valid inlet]

Looks about right, and the R1 & 2 will be decided by how good the units are built, hard to tell here

[tropic summit]

sugar neon maiden blanc rh, assuming neon and sugar die and you are around 3.5RL

[placid bloom]

I don't think you need to worry too much about speed for that team, it only has 1 job and it's to beat faster indom

you're not supposed to beat any other matchup

[tropic summit]

you want maiden to get indommed (on double buff in that order)

[placid bloom]

it's your 1/5 RNG matchup

if you're lucky you run into 3RL indom and you win because you're slower

[shell hazel]

got it, maiden is probably very dead tbh

[placid bloom]

well you're not getting indom with RH p2

[tropic summit]

hence why you should consider xmaiden instead of one of the filler SGs

[shell hazel]

maiden/neon/sugar not built

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

you'd retain a B3 with threat

but again, ultra copium T5, so w/e

[spring ore]

Can you guys help me make comps for both rookie and special arenas? here's my nikkes:

[glad glade]

I could tell that the moran team is not completely maxxed out

[cold steeple]

anyone

[glad glade]

Here’s R1’s CP too

[shell hazel]

right T5 super cope, part of me was wondering if I could revive cope with blanc lol

[tropic summit]

siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal
noise centi cind helm rumani
noah biscuit s.anis RH laplace

requirements:
T1 siren needs to be 2nd highest atk% in the team (OL included), this makes her linked with jackal and scarlet

quantum on trina, xmaiden, jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis burst lvl must be 9 or higher, no ammo OL
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

[cold steeple]

Thanks I love u

[shell hazel]

is this just too dumb? it would at least be tanky

cope: get into indom with midhara dots killing opponent

I mean it would make for an entertaining watch if nothing else

[placid bloom]

4.5RL is a bit too slow probably, if you're trying to beat 3RL SBS you do want to hover around 4RL

that's the one matchup you can actually win

other than nonsense teams

[valid inlet]

Seems to me you will win r2, and you should win r1 if your SBS get indom, but there is a chance Rapunzel will get it

[glad glade]

Gotchu, thank you. How would rapu get the indom though?

[tropic summit]

siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind laplace noise
noah biscuit helmt RH emilia

T1: requirement: siren must be 2nd highest atk% in the team (OL included)

quantum on trina, xmaiden, jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
resil on helmT
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes:
invest in rosanna, emilia and raise CP on rumani and trina, they're very down low

get teams reviewed once emi, rumani and trina are up to speed

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-goddess-of-victory-cooking-pink-hair-meme-gif-10237899591902112492

railtracer today ^

[valid inlet]

if ur SBS dies too soon, Rapunzel get attacked and has lower hp than the revived SBS

[glad glade]

Gotchu gotchu, thank you!

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

we'll roll with the original set, trina links for me so I put her p5

[glacial hatch]

What is this a pic of?

[shell hazel]

my next CA teams

[glacial hatch]

Thank you

Also, i need help making a third team for sp arena

[distant sigil]

just unlocked special arena - do I have enough nikkes to do it? and any team suggestions for the three rounds?

[coarse solstice]

I would put your 3 highest CP teams together then focus on PVE for now. You can always catch up in PVP later but you are missing a lot of the key units.

[distant sigil]

yeah that sounds good! I figured if I have 2 free daily trys I should run it anyway lol

[coarse solstice]

Exactly. Who is number one in your SP?

[digital hornet]

What does RL and the %s mean?

[shell hazel]

it's a bit of an abstraction but imagine that 1RL = 1 second or so, it's burst speed

it's also in a vacuum somewhat because this assumes no one is firing back and no one dies

the % is how close to that breakpoint the speed is, 90% means it won't be reached, instead it will fall back to the next slowest speed and scale up from there

if something isn't even 100% 4RL then it's slower than 4 seconds and isn't great in pvp where burst speed matters a lot

[lost ether]

can yall recommend me some teams, some1 on my list being a little b**** and kept atk me

i dont have noise and rapunzel at cs 17% yet, my emi is at 29% cs

[digital hornet]

Thanks my man I can finally use the burst calc thingy

[umbral belfry]

hippo cooking

[mystic rain]

chat rate this team that i cooked

[shell hazel]

well Rail cooking and Hippo eating

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-dog-this-is-happening-hungry-hungry-hippos-eating-competition-feeding-the-dog-gif-18191050

[umbral belfry]

you're asking for a siren stun

personally I wouldn't use this team in sp, even rookie is meh

[mystic rain]

assuming no deficit

siren would also die

if scarlet gets stunned, cool blanc indom still goes off

if noise gets stunned, jackal still bursts

and the rotation isjt interrupted

[umbral belfry]

well if it's against a linked siren that uno reverses you

and if your scar is above 32 ammo

[mystic rain]

XDD

So no ammo scarlet wouldnt get stunned

[umbral belfry]

if you wanna run that team fine, but I strongly suggest you put either noise or jackal in p1 to avoid scar stun

[umbral belfry]

that's correct

[mystic rain]

if its siren linked, as long as blanc bursts scarlet wouldnt care

cuz siren would still die afterwards

[shell hazel]

jackal link units 1/2/5 ideally, as long as desired burst chain still works

[mystic rain]

yea i dont think siren interreupts this team at all

even if siren is placed anywhere thats not p1/p2

ill try it on my rookie bracket vs siren + deficit teams

[shell hazel]

well if you don't have to put scar p1 then it's better

[mystic rain]

yea tru

[shell hazel]

if your scar has less than 32 ammo think you're always safe p1

[mystic rain]

i was thinking noise linked p2 and jackal p3 vs RL team and no feed to try and maximize aoe feed

[shell hazel]

well you need to check who links in that team

and whoever links goes to p1/p2/p5 ideally, that gets you the most burst gen capability

[umbral belfry]

@shell hazel

sir. what is that team

[shell hazel]

ask @tropic summit 😄

[umbral belfry]

explain

rh isn't b1 here

[shell hazel]

TL:DR I proposed these teams
#pvp-arena message

Rail said no bad should make 3 good teams + 1 SG team + 1 cope team. What you see is the cope team

so we wound up with
#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

that is indeed a cope team

[umbral belfry]

tbh these aren't bad, but anis shouldn't be needed for t5 unless your rosa s2 skill isn't leveled

bur even then personally I wouldn't

[shell hazel]

I used her there just for the extra speed to burst but also because otherwise I wasn't using Anis anywhere lol

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

exactly 😛

I can try the Railtracer version for a season of CA, if it fails I re-visit. Cindy is one of my best dps though so not using her feels a bit off lol

she is slow though I'll say that

[umbral belfry]

wait I just realized no cindy

[shell hazel]

yep it's because rail wanted 2RL and you can't 2RL that with her

[umbral belfry]

if rail says it's okay I won't say no but

[swift mango]

Just move noise or jackal to p1.

[umbral belfry]

🫎

[umbral belfry]

no i saw that blood

and that's what I suggested for him too

[swift mango]

Man, I wished I have Rapu or something to replace her that's not with big ATK like Mana.

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

That one is good 👍

[lime night]

would anyone else have any solutions, ive tried emilia noah delayed / scarlet siren nothing seems to be working

[swift mango]

I need a few hundreds of rock and a skill reset for my ideas Miranda+Emi nuke team to function.

So expensive

[swift mango]

Just need a few months I guess.... Maybe I should go back to RH buffed Emi.

Vanilla is the best.

No need huge investment.

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit jackal helmt RH, your team is on the left

record the match

you're going for 2 cycles, opponent will not be able to do more than 1 cycle

[lime night]

Sorry for the low quality, seems like I’m getting investment gapped

noah biscuit dies too fast it sems

[lime night]

yeah i can do the two cycles but the front line dies a bit too fastr

[signal hull]

Could anyone please explain to me how the f did my Cindy NOT wipe the floor with this team? 😒 Did she downright MISS two in the middle??

[placid bloom]

Bay can soak entire Cindy burst

it's tighter timing than Noah ofc, since other things can pop her cover if the timing is off

[swift mango]

Nah, RH won't work to replace Miranda in the team I was going to build.

Still need Miranda.... Skill reset. At least 300 rocks.

[tropic summit]

you've noah on x2 s2 stacks of biscuit, then you've 3 nikke on shared HP pool, just do the matchup i gave you and record it, as long as you're not on deficit and you've invested in those 5 nikke, you should win

[signal hull]

Pure uncensored unfiltered bullsht of lowest grade possible...

[lime night]

@tropic summit heres the video, did i do something wrong? yeah all 5 are well invested

theres a small CP deficit~

[swift mango]

Nvm, will use another team for now.

[tropic summit]

your issue here is biscuit dying and not proccing a 2nd stack on your own

biscuit SR5-SR15, temperance and try again

you could also force a biscuit procc on enemy side with a good splasher like emi or laplace

[lime night]

let me give that a try, unfortunately i dont have the resources to SR15 her ive left her at 5

[lime night]

i tried noah noise emi helm biscuit and its like a 30% chance to win

[tropic summit]

also triple buff scarlet isn't enough to wipe that?

[lime night]

i tried Scar Trina Siren centi jackal didnt work i didnt try others yet

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina rh noir jackal

or
scarlet trina rh draket jackal (note scarlet must hold 2nd or 1st highest atk% spot, OL included)

oh but nvm they've jackal linked noise in p1, you'd feed them to 2RL

[tropic summit]

just scarlet trina rh centi jackal

shouldn't promote opponent to 2RL

or break their link with

scarlet helmt trina rosanna jackal

rosanna 7/x/x, doesn't even need to be dealing much dmg

[lime night]

oh wait this worked easily thanks damn i should just use this more often when i see cindy comps

[tropic summit]

trina + RH is generally lethal to anything

[lime night]

thanks appreciate the help, guess fast scarlet is still the way tried like 5 different comps already

[tropic summit]

if you wanna give it a shot, try the rosanna variant aswell

[lime night]

was worried since my trina/centi is weak on CP

[tropic summit]

trina just needs to be 4/7/7

but ye getting her 4OL would help if you ever get in deficit

[lime night]

yea i left her here, shes just 4 OL but not well upgraded/only 1 star

[tropic summit]

that's what killed rosy's nero moran team in CA finals

he survived double buff, but le triple was too much

[wintry viper]

Need help updating my SP Arena defense

[swift mango]

Idk what you are talking about.

[tropic summit]

then why the question?

[tropic summit]

post ur current 3 teams

[swift mango]

It was basically what the sticker is for.

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

T1: noise taunt priority? (noah has higher CS% than noise of at least 4%)
T2: s.anis probably needs to go
T3: siren enough atk% to be linked if used with siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal?

[swift mango]

Use this.

Nvm the quantum on Rapu, just use vigor or whatever

[lime night]

ill try that if my current one somehow stops working, thanks anyways!

[swift mango]

Oh wait, Rosy was killed with normal scar Trina RH lol...

[tropic summit]

nah there was a drakeT in it too

[wintry viper]

Noise has 8.3 total charge speed in OL Noah has 14.5

[tropic summit]

ok that's a noise taunt priority, works well

[swift mango]

DrakeT doesn't buff scar wipe.

[wintry viper]

T3: if i change to XMaiden and upgrade Siren's OL gear i should be able to get her higher than Trina

[gilded sluice]

is this an upgrade or a downgrade for SP def
tried updating my teams

[tropic summit]

good, that allows to move siren in p1 or p2 to enable stunning any position noah taunt priority teams

[swift mango]

We could count RH+Trina buffed Scarlet 3-4buffs scarlet thanks to how potent those buffs are I guess.

Like MirandaT is basically equal to 3 buffs for the nuke of Emi.

[tropic summit]

turn that T2 into indom emi on double buff is probably a better idea and you can fit a biscuit then

still weak to rosanna unfortunately, but mitigated by RH backup B3 in case

[gilded sluice]

i believe i have same cs on noah and noise, who has the priority in that case?

[tropic summit]

the one closest to the left side, reliably throw an adjutant on who you DON'T want to be taunt priority when on similar CS%

[wintry viper]

T2: who should I replace S.Anis with? would Emi be okay?

[tropic summit]

since RH and biscuit are still open, you've a few options

one option is indeed oldschool 3RL emi indom on double buff

[gilded sluice]

thanks for guidance

[mystic rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180584614520164422/1386809036279910471/NIKKE_2025-06-24_04-40-46.mp4?ex=685b0e0f&is=6859bc8f&hm=630c8cc39ceb56c7019b05bee1c74b6c5b7ea92d7d686e90eaa0d2df5edc8c72&

i cooked

also used helm instead of trina cuz of cp gap

if the deficit was any higher scarlet would have died before noise b1

i think

[tropic summit]

24% CP deficit

[mystic rain]

or idk maybe my trina s2 would have been enough max hp for scarlet to tank through till noise b1

[tropic summit]

you still taking heavy dmg on p5 via enemy naga

noise is taunting p1 and p2

[mystic rain]

yea noise wasnt linked

[tropic summit]

considering your deficit there, that's a good cook

[mystic rain]

this probably would only work vs enemy siren p1/p2 if noise acn taunt her, if siren isnt there, then scarlet burst would be delayed

actually nvm it would still work they die to scarlet indom anyway not burst

[tropic summit]

if scarlet is p1 and you're not running noise, p1 doesn't shoot p2 which would result in your helmT bursting instead

as scarlet would be stunned

the noise call here was needed to prevent stun on p1

[mystic rain]

now idk if this WOULD work vs noah helm and above 15% deficit

[tropic summit]

although, you could use any flex by simply moving jackal in p1

[mystic rain]

yeaaaa idk abt that im not confident in blanc indom hitting the right target

[tropic summit]

as opponent is on 4RL and feeds you, you can afford any flex on high CP, even the worst bust gen

[mystic rain]

if it was jackal or noise p1 i think they would get indom instead

[tropic summit]

that's not how it works

the HP pool is shared and goes down at the same exact speed

you running jackal blanc flex helmt scarlet would still give indom to scarlet

as long as jackal and helmT have max HP higher than scarlet or on par

as scarlet deals self dmg to herself alone

[mystic rain]

yea....

oh right self dmg

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tropic summit]

even if it wasn't for self dmg though, as long as starting max HP is lower, that's your priority indom target

e.g.

jackal blanc flex helmt s.anis, assuming s.anis has enough atk% to be linked and has less max HP than jackal and helmt, she'd be indommed

[mystic rain]

no sanis

[tropic summit]

ye it's an example

replace s.anis with anyone you want to indom instead

[mystic rain]

yea ill keep that in mind maybe i can adjust this team for sp to fit

[tropic summit]

you'll need that if you ever get CP gated

[mystic rain]

scarlet indom might be what i need instead of trina burst

[tropic summit]

for example a typical flex is alice

alice has self healing, which drops her out nearly 100% of the time from being picked

she serves high CP as most ppl have her well invested

[mystic rain]

i feel like indom scarlet is better vs noah comps

[tropic summit]

depends on the noah

stall noah is meant to counter even indom scarlet

[mystic rain]

right cuz they dont feed

[tropic summit]

example:

[tropic summit]

nah by using biscuit s2 in an optimized way

first stack: 5s
burst: 4s
second stack: 5s

a whole 14s of invulnerable

throw in sustain... and you get vid above

[mystic rain]

yea i figured if it was noah + helm this would probably still lose

cuz they would just outsustain the whole 10 seconds

[tropic summit]

there's another less common and more risky without helmt

this is dependant on scarlet proccing s2 often or not, as you can see SBS drops fast

although even losing SBS, scarlet is left with 1hp, so anyone can finish her off

[mystic rain]

any replacement for rapunzel

[tropic summit]

rumani or any filler that does not feed

most of the dmg there is soaked by noah with biscuit x2 stacks anyway

[wintry viper]

Thank you for your help!

[tropic summit]

no problemo, happy hunting

[late tiger]

how much charge speed does emilia need for 38%

[tropic summit]

@swift mango this man probably knows

then again i suppose it's 38% - 13%

25%ish?

[late tiger]

6,09%*4 = 24,36% (max)

[tropic summit]

don't forget there's also adjutant

[late tiger]

24,36% + 13.01 = 37,37% + adjuant (2,12) = 39,49% (maximum)

so adjuant is a must then

[tropic summit]

let's wait for Blood's answer or any MA that can confirm, i'm not too familiar with her

i personally find it crazy investing into that 38% threshold

[late tiger]

luck based, but nothing much to do or use resources on

17% charge speed only increases 2nd/4th line of burst gen

[wise horizon]

Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Xmaiden/Jackal
Noise/Centi/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani
Noah/Biscuit/RapiRH/SBS/Emilia

need a new SP arena defense team and made this one. can it get better?

[oak gale]

okay done leveling up siren , she is fully invested 5 5 5 5 ol relics, unless i want to go for stats , thats the furthest i can go ,shes also 10 10 10

so now i can focus on rosanna , aside of the 40% atk u were telling me about , what else do i need on her , cube wise , skill wise , etc @tropic summit

[spring ore]

Is this for DEF and ATK? or just ATK or DEF?

[pure moss]

who'd win?

[swift mango]

yes but thanks to CS rounding you don't need those 4 black line.

5.8
5.8
5.6
4.9-4.6
+Adjustant

is already 25%. According to CN testing 26% doesn't make any real difference because CS threshold.

[pure moss]

Siren Scarlet Trina Centi Jackal (get Trina)
Noise Rumani Cinderella Emilia Noah
Nero Moran Thelm (21%cs) Rapunzel Laplace (full investment on every unit)

otherwise just take my teams

@leaden canyon homie

u good with pvp?

@umbral belfry u up?

[crystal flicker]

Same lol

[pure moss]

what's your opinion of my battle?

[crystal flicker]

Top
Depend on Centi investment
Depend on Nero investment
Top
If top really 3RL, then bot win

[leaden canyon]

Btw what does nero even need for investments on that team

[crystal flicker]

If Centi isn't full invested, SG could kill her and distrupt the burst gen
If Nero is fully invested, she should get enough dmg red to tank SG

[leaden canyon]

my nero is 7/7/7 SR 15

[crystal flicker]

I do 101010 with x/x/10 Moran

At least this is her dmg red with tempering lv6 and w/o Moran burst, with Moran she'll reach 101%

[pure moss]

Nero is fully invested

Sr 15 10/10/10 ol 5

[umbral belfry]

leaning top, but it's possible for top t2 to lose

rosa would need to survive + kill scar

which is possible

[pure moss]

I'll believe in myself

[umbral belfry]

[pure moss]

[umbral belfry]

it should be top t1, t2, t4. but like i said t2 could lose if rng blesses u

[glad glade]

Just to be sure, could I have a second opinion on this prediction please?

Top is attacking and bottom (me) is defending. Crossed out teams are the loser.

I am most unsure about rounds R1 and R2

Also, R2 Moran team seems to be slightly faster than 3 RL, but far from being 2.5 RL

[tropic summit]

attack is based on what you facing

against any non noah/bay/rosanna 2RL run scarlet
against any 2RL scarlet run noah

95% of the matches are won playing rock, paper, scissor

[tropic summit]

7/10/10, SR5-SR15. 30-40% atk OL, crit rate is a good bonus

[spring ore]

And for the rookie arena do you have any comp?

[tropic summit]

rookie is a silly mode, just run w/e you want, the less info you give away the better so just keep your comps out of rookie

run generic 2RL teams

[spring ore]

alright

[oak gale]

your wish will be granted
in 20 business days

[tropic summit]

run this one, it doesn't give away much info while probably keeping unexperienced lads away from you

noah biscuit helmt RH jackal

[tropic summit]

not to spoil the fun, but if your opponents know what they doing, if that def lasts 1 or 2 days you're lucky

[oak gale]

im building rosanna for 1v1 anyways, but ultimately my helm is being built just for 3v3
as for 3v3 its like this , rn my rocks are going for helm , i kind of have like 20% cs on her rn , so im close (1 6% , 2 5% , and a 4%) , my gear is going now for rosanna , same with skill materials , but after im done with her im planning to go for bay, there is a chance that if i get my helm stats up that i go for other stats on other nikkes like summer anis or sbs , or maybe even scarlet

basically as long as im doing something towards securing something against these mfs in pvp im happy , until the day i can finally focus on kraken or solo raid 💀

the only thing im uncertain about is doll materials bc after i just gave drake her exclusive doll , im trying to get miranda and diseal up doll wise too , but i think i could spare a sr5 maybe

[raven plover]

hold

next month is new batch of treasures

[oak gale]

im out anyways because i got drake up like a week ago

current box

but unless there is someone extremely broken like helm amongst them , i might still go for miranda/diseal because i need serious help in elysion tower because im falling behind

[raven plover]

D maids rapipi and helm not enough for ely tower?

or you no maids

[lunar pawn]

thoughts? top attacker, bottom defender

thinking attacker will:
t1 win
t2 loss
t3 win
t4 win
t5 win

[umbral belfry]

i wonder if their maid priv nuke is lethal enough to kill helm

bc that jackal team gets feed to 2 rl w/ indom on someone (priv?)

helm shouldn't kill, there's indom

[lunar pawn]

wait I was tripping

[umbral belfry]

and i'm assumign their maid priv will have that indom

[lunar pawn]

but yea, helm]anchor will be up

[umbral belfry]

hmm

[lunar pawn]

why is my keyboard weird

[umbral belfry]

attacker should win overall but i'm not 100% sure on t3

[lunar pawn]

ok think it's fixed

[valid inlet]

Is it the Don I am thinking?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[valid inlet]

attacker surely wins round 1 & 5, will lose round 4, hard to tell about round 2 & 3, depends on how good Rosanna is built in round 2 and whether Emilia get indom in round 3

[umbral belfry]

t4 has enough feed to reach 2 rl indom

likely into sAnis

should be attacker win

[valid inlet]

Ah because Jackal at p1

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

going for loser frame so voted for don

[umbral belfry]

that scar team feeds 21.3%

[oblique ridge]

I cheered for Latte. Because coffee

As for your fight...
R1: W agreed
R2: L agreed
R3: W agreed unless Blanc indom rescues Maid Privaty. Then idk?

• I think with Moran dmg reduction and Maid Anchor's HP storage, team can survive Maid Privaty nuke, recover, and outlast
  • So probably still W
    R4: W agreed
    R5: W agreed

Looks like you've got an easy cheer this time

[lunar pawn]

easy cheer like our before last fight, last season?

I just want a frame for my ADO

[oblique ridge]

I already forgot what foiled us

But I'm more worried about my cheer than about yours. I wish I had that kind of easy cheer

[lunar pawn]

gl

[oblique ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-despicableme-cheer-happy-yay-gif-13253317945437211671

[umbral crown]

[bitter cipher]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

413

Are you in Challenger already?

Where's your core dust hoarding

[pure moss]

@lunar pawn @oblique ridge what do ya think?

[bitter cipher]

Teams very bad, Diamond 1 consistent now, before I was challenger 10 consistent for a bit but then guys from reshuffle started to care about PvP again and cooked me

[keen vapor]

Have I ever told you that you remind me to Jax?

[bitter cipher]

No

[bitter cipher]

It’s.. going

[keen vapor]

Where

[bitter cipher]

Up, I swear

[upper grove]

SP bracket suddenly chill again, no attacks in a day

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Use it

[umbral crown]

did you use yours

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

give lo que te sobro

[keen vapor]

No me sobra

[umbral crown]

sus

[bitter cipher]

82/h, 2 12hr, 1 8hr, 78 2 hr, and 806 1hr

[keen vapor]

Wait

I forgot we will get new chapters relatively soon

Keep hoarding

[upper grove]

July next chapters

[bitter cipher]

I can pass those (campaign) easy I think (currently Hch26 going into Hch27)

[keen vapor]

Yes, do

[upper grove]

22 days until season 3 silver mileage boxes expire in shop

[keen vapor]

Just one more summer event

Just one more till treasures

We need to hoard

[upper grove]

Centi summer skin surely means centi treasure

[keen vapor]

........ GUYS

[bitter cipher]

Oh yeah, sniped challenger 10 before maintenance

[keen vapor]

[upper grove]

I already have 400+ spare treasure upgrades to exchange

[bitter cipher]

Please brother Echo

[upper grove]

At 5 to 1 exchange rate I need 30 more for phase 3 of a new treasure, 10 days

[keen vapor]

What's previous def

[bitter cipher]

Also, Drunklet/Trina/Siren/Anis/Centi team already in use

[bitter cipher]

Wdym?

[keen vapor]

What you use on def besides that

[bitter cipher]

-# May or may not be the same rookie team I told you before and then a garbo team

[oblique ridge]

Attacker pov:

R1: W

• I bet defender’s Biscuit gets Indomitable
  R2: L
• I bet Centi dies, then Scarlet gets nuked by Rosanna and BSoda
  R3: W if Nero dies before she bursts, L if Nero lives to burst. Will Nero live?
• Idk
  R4: W
• I bet BScarlet will have Indomitable
  R5: L
• Nero will be stunned by Siren for 3 seconds

[pure moss]

Looks like I'll take it, my Nero is sr 15 ol 5 10/10/10

[oblique ridge]

Nero is a little insidious

She gives dmg taken reduction to those that give her recovery effects

[umbral crown]

[oblique ridge]

Which means both HelmT and Rapunzel gets more dmg reduction that stacks with Moran’s team dmg reduction

Very cool

[umbral crown]

Hoarding for nikke 3

Not the way

[bitter cipher]

Wait, ain’t you the strongest Rose around or is that someone else?

[umbral crown]

Mine not C7 so

[bitter cipher]

But you challenger 1 ain’t you?

[umbral crown]

C2

Cuz

[umbral belfry]

[ornate spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-dwight-schrute-sniper-gif-25130487

[umbral crown]

Its been months since last time i did a snipe

[keen vapor]

Those are only two teams

[onyx scaffold]

Sniping

[bitter cipher]

[keen vapor]

Should have asked for attack

[umbral crown]

@strong hull always trust me

[bitter cipher]

Noah/sbs/jackal/biscuit/THelm P3
Drunklet/trina/Siren/Anis/Centi
(before you say anything, I just smushed them together, I’m aware it’s an abomination of a team)
Cindy/Rumani/SAnis/Naga/XMaiden

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Scar without jackal

[keen vapor]

So you want to do the god comp huh?

[ornate zealot]

TOPKEK

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

Its not a true Nero team if they can't survive a measly Siren stun delay or SG team offensive

[ornate spoke]

today was a good sesh, beat Tribe tower 830 + a couple of floors + snipe

[keen vapor]

I can't SR15 Rapunzel I must be ready for new treasures

Like....... Maxwell?

[umbral crown]

Skill issues

[bitter cipher]

Whuh dat?

[umbral crown]

Been months since doll system and still no rapu max

[oblique ridge]

Maybe. It’s possible team Scarlet can’t kill anyone and loses

[keen vapor]

SBS jackal Noah that's the god comp

[strong hull]

[oblique ridge]

Just no HelmT B3 burst if Nero dies before stun wears off

Because Nero is the only B2…

[worthy knoll]

Nero doesn't need HelmT burst

[crystal flicker]

Mega Shit + 4RL

[oblique ridge]

That’d be funny if Scarlet still dies

[worthy knoll]

She just needs the heal stacks and Moran to burst before whatever nuke happens

[oblique ridge]

It’s possible. I see it now. I hadn’t watched many Nero replays so idk what happens here

[worthy knoll]

HelmT burst is just a bonus

[crystal flicker]

You mean Quiry burst

[worthy knoll]

You could even live with just Nero and Rapunzel remaining

[umbral crown]

Its also a plus

[oblique ridge]

Oops, yeah. Edited

[crystal flicker]

Oh also, Quiry basic atk doesn't heal?

[keen vapor]

The staller knows some things

[bitter cipher]

Okay, so should I move THelm into Nero Moran comp then?

[oblique ridge]

Was just focused on the fact that, the stall team would not be hitting Full Burst

[umbral crown]

Do not think so

[oblique ridge]

But Scarlet Jackal without heals do tend to die really fast

It’s just that they also tend to kill back first really fast

I’ll want to see that replay after the fight’s over

Maybe I’ll even invest in Nero If the replay impresses me

[oblique ridge]

Does Mana proc team heal fast enough?

Maybe I can try Nero, Moran, HelmT, Rapunzel, Mana

[wild patio]

fuuu I forgot maintenance

[oblique ridge]

RIP

[crystal flicker]

From what I read yes

[oblique ridge]

Yep Mana procs team heal in under 1 second

[worthy knoll]

The problem with Mana is... She could die from Scar S2.. and she really doesn't do any offensive which Nero team needs a backup of.

You can stall all you want but if you have no bite, your just delaying it

[oblique ridge]

I keep trying to find a way to make Mana work and can’t

[crystal flicker]

Mihara comp

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Well, Moran Nero will be undoubtedly better than Cindy P1

[worthy knoll]

My Mihara meme team

[bitter cipher]

Aight, I’ll fiddle around with the comp creator and then come back later

[raven plover]

the video below you is cindy p1

[bitter cipher]

And it won by a hair’s width

[worthy knoll]

It miraculously haven't lost yet a single match this season

Though it'll prolly lose to my next opponent

[keen vapor]

huh?

[oblique ridge]

I thought it was Mihara p1? To get her killed

[worthy knoll]

Its Cindy P1 to make all Noah teams quicker

[keen vapor]

Why

[wild patio]

@loud sonnet am I being kicked to oblivion?

[worthy knoll]

Like in this one

[umbral belfry]

intentional p1 cindy

[keen vapor]

Ok that's it

I'm sick 🤢

[oblique ridge]

It actually makes sense

Not bad

[raven plover]

you sick of p1 cindy?

[keen vapor]

Don't even say it

[bitter cipher]

Nah that’s crazy

[umbral belfry]

yeah that actually makes sense

[oblique ridge]

Coincidentally, I was having trouble placing my Cindy, Blanc, and Biscuit Maybe I’ll steal this comp next season

[umbral belfry]

thief

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

That's some weak ass Cindy nuke

[oblique ridge]

Hehe idk what I’ll do since I’m bad and lazy at CA comping for the win

I haven’t made it out of groups aside from CA1

[glad glade]

Could anyone give me a second opinion on my predictions please? Top is attacking and bottom (me) is defending. Crossed out teams are the losers

The rounds I have the most trouble guessing with R1 and R2

[worthy knoll]

I flavored it with 4 def lines and SR15 and tempura

[keen vapor]

#pvp-arena has gone insane

[umbral belfry]

in my bracket a 3 rl sbs beat a 3.5 sbs if that means anything granted the 3 rl sbs had rapu just in case

but she was not needed

[strong hull]

Echocho-san

[worthy knoll]

If you meant enemy though, its not weak as you can see Mihara died in just the first wave. Biscuit just protected Rumani and Blanc, while Cindy is decoy protected

[glad glade]

Do you think that would be the case here too? My team will be hit by the opposing SBS’s Distributed damage after all

[oblique ridge]

Probably involved ammo reloading at the wrong time

Since BScarlet has to proc the 3rd hit during burst to slaughter wholesale
Wait that wouldn’t even matter if it’s BScarlet indom vs BScarlet indom.
So I meant, maybe the slower one ran out of ammo at the worst time (at end of 3RL’s Indom)

[keen vapor]

Play Crazy Taxi

[umbral belfry]

it played out like this. but it'd be difficult to say if this result would mirror your next match due to not same teams

[fading ermine]

[glad glade]

Lack of biscuit will do that to you. Probably hit Blanc and that wiped out the whole team

[umbral belfry]

yeah, hence why yours might play a bit differently. it's hard to say

[glad glade]

Gotchu gotchu, thank you. What’s your opinion on R2?

[oblique ridge]

Not what I expected. I guess it’s just a case of enemy 3.5RL being a tad too slow to roll the bursts

[umbral belfry]

if sgs are hitting rapu it's gonna be a bad time for the stall team (esp if not invested). if they're hitting nero stall team will be fine

[umbral belfry]

gonna be faster than that

[glad glade]

Yep I’m on defense so the SGs are gonna kill rapu

Do you think that they can kill Helm in time before Nero’s stun ends?

[umbral belfry]

rapu dies, mana revives, but rosa will likely nuke

[oblique ridge]

Btw if BScarlet procs onto Blanc while Blanc is invincible from Biscuit, I believe BScarlet will do 0 dmg with the AoE. So it’s probably a L if you activate their Biscuit invincible on their Blanc

[umbral belfry]

wait there's no rosa

[glad glade]

No Rosa, only Siren. My rosa is utter garbage

[umbral belfry]

that doomed you

[strong hull]

Bro in CA?

[glad glade]

Hmmmm, so its a loss. Even with the stun extending the burst?

[umbral belfry]

at this point it would depend on thr stall team's investments

siren stunning will help buy time though

[glad glade]

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. Both biscuit procs will hit Blanc and thus I’ll have like 1 second of damage to wipe out their team before my indom ends. Probably won’t end very pretty for me

[glad glade]

They’re definitely not maxxed out that’s for sure

[umbral belfry]

maybe your sgs will kill rapu, mana, and then mana-revived rapu quick enough before nero isn't stunned anymore

[umbral belfry]

that's a mediocre stall team

mana is 100% dead once they reach her

[glad glade]

So you’re saying I have a chance

[fading ermine]

[umbral belfry]

it's possible, yeah

wouldve been easier with rosa though

[keen vapor]

I did lose on league

[glad glade]

Tell me about it. I’m not gonna send a 1/1/1 rosa with no OL out there though

[umbral belfry]

not the 1/1/1 rosa 😭

[glad glade]

I want to get my first 3% raid frame after all. Its been almost a year and I still don’t have it

[umbral belfry]

understandable though. I ran a 4 sg siren comp until I switched over to 7/10/10 rosa once she was built

[strong hull]

Oops

[keen vapor]

Caught

[glad glade]

Yeah. Shame she’s only good for PvP

Anyways, you’re leaning more on top for both rounds correct?

[umbral belfry]

I'm not sure for t1, but t2 yes I lean for top

wait

sorry, I meant bottom (sg) for t2

[glad glade]

That’s me! Anyways, thank you!

[umbral belfry]

if the stall team was more invested I'd say the latter

may rngesus bless u

[upper garden]

Any suggestions to improve? I think my team 3 suck ass
(Using sanis or SBS also didn't work)

Oh I just check using biscuit replacing 1 SG still got 2.5RL

Need an RL with 17% CS to able to use SBS / sanis

Should I burst with drake or emi?

[umbral crown]

[glad glade]

Also, just to be triple sure, what’s your opinion on R2?

[oblique ridge]

Probably cooked. W for attacker

I took a closer look, hmm

This is going to sound weird, but you probably will Rapunzel, then Mana, then I’m not sure how it works, do you go back to Rapunzel? And kill her again

Then trying to kill HelmT

[glad glade]

Yep, that seems to be what its going to happen

[oblique ridge]

No

I just confirmed Moran has an AoE taunt on burst

RIP, you lose

Basically, Nero is stunned and sits there, but Moran will burst and taunt everyone

Your SGs will turn to Moran after killing Mana at best

Once stun wears off Nero, HelmT bursts and it’s gg

[glad glade]

Gotchu gotchu, thanks. Kind of a shame but I’m surprised I made it this far tbh

[glad glade]

So both R1 and R2 are leaning towards attacker correct?

[oblique ridge]

R2 is

R1 is still confusing. Both of you will have Invincible Blancs