pvp-arena

[swift mango]

[sleek imp]

okay bettt

[umbral belfry]

sopa CA this round?

[sleek imp]

nope, 6 whales

[gritty ridge]

I mean im still there so thankfully not

[umbral belfry]

[sleek imp]

I mean im top 4 rn, hopefully I dont get contested by 5 people like last time

They dont mald, just very high cp off thin air

[gritty ridge]

Sopa could we get put same bracket

[umbral belfry]

hug that spot like your life depends on it

[swift mango]

Good job. Now last for 9 more minutes.

[sleek imp]

impossible, account creation time

[gritty ridge]

We're relatively close iirc

[umbral belfry]

that's what she-

[gritty ridge]

Sopa what month did you start again?

[umbral belfry]

i have no chances to see any of you in my sp bracket

[placid bloom]

SPA group usually doesn't exceed like 1 week time difference I think, at least until the playerbase shrinks enough that it has to combine older groups

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see

Sopas like a month before me so I thought there was a chance

[umbral belfry]

fight whenever you both make it to ca

[placid bloom]

I didn't check ranking to see if there is new baby CA league yet

[umbral belfry]

I don't think so from last CA

what if we get isekai'd to the sAnis bracket like star did

[placid bloom]

that seems unlucky

[umbral belfry]

surely

[placid bloom]

but his account creation date is a decent chunk older

I think?

[gritty ridge]

Im fairly certain sopa would dogwalk my teams

[umbral belfry]

when's yours?

[forest zodiac]

can someone help me please with CA teams pls pls
my shiftypad https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTk2MDgxNzQwNDgxMzY0NzYwOQ%3D%3D

[umbral belfry]

there's no cp deficit in ca. you gotta believe in your teams

[placid bloom]

mid-November

[gritty ridge]

No deficit?

[umbral belfry]

you'll be going before me

[umbral belfry]

no deficit sir

it's all about pvp knowledge (and luck)

though investments to jump from 3 rl to 2.5 helps too

[gritty ridge]

I have bigger roster

[umbral belfry]

but in terms of losing due to cp deficit as a whole like sp and rookie, itsbnot in CA

[placid bloom]

I think his account creation date is close to cup's, like over a month before mine

[umbral belfry]

yes but sopa has an alice profile so by default I lean sopa

[placid bloom]

around 200 servers lower?

or something like that

[umbral belfry]

that means for cup-

[gritty ridge]

Oh me n sopa less than 100 servers apart

[placid bloom]

100 is a lot

that's a few weeks

[umbral belfry]

too far to be linked in sp or rookie sadly

[placid bloom]

maybe in like 2-3 years when 98% of the people in our age bracket quit

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

maybe I quit by then too

[gritty ridge]

Yall wanna merge brackets with my alt?

[umbral belfry]

not poggies

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Lemme ss my sp bracket on my alt

[sleek imp]

Is this alright?

[bleak shale]

when 98% of my age bracket quits its eos

[umbral belfry]

your t3 fills me with great sorrow

[bleak shale]

all the day 1 whales r here

[placid bloom]

that Scarlet team is no bueno, too much excess burst gen

[umbral belfry]

t1 you need to check if scar is even linked

back into the kitchen u go

[sleek imp]

okay

[umbral crown]

be the 7

[sleek imp]

my wallet is clean as my face

[umbral belfry]

can I get a refund before eos

[sleek imp]

Im kinda cooked, Siren/Alice needs to be there to cppad, but they steal link

[placid bloom]

[sleek imp]

unless someone gives me a T9M Pilgrim attacker module im not surviving...

[gritty ridge]

Surely I win

[placid bloom]

here I fixed for you. Unfortunately no room for Biscuit but it is what it is should be good enough for this sync bracket

[sleek imp]

Anis

[tropic summit]

if you building linked teams, keep in mind this

p1 linked unit 1 (non B2 or B3) or jackal (to absorb all other weapon classes) - the first requirement to avoid having p1 stunned by siren
p2 linked unit 2 or jackal (to absorb splash), or unit that can survive splash (temperance and possibly non water/iron weak)
p3 flex
p4 flex
jackal or linked unit (to absorb snipers when defending, or SGs when attacking)

[oblique ridge]

Idk, I have a hard time using Blanc, so it's a weak area in my pvp cooks

[sleek imp]

oh right splash

[umbral belfry]

centi pos 1 t2 seems pretty risky due to sopa just getting centi apparently, but not much options sadge

[placid bloom]

better start OL your PvP units to get CP

[sleek imp]

Should I actually do that? can I not use Anchor over anis?

[placid bloom]

yeah it should probably be Rumani p1 over Centi

[sleek imp]

its likely for me to use Anchor in both pvp/pve content

[placid bloom]

I'm just used to Centi p1 because I use Anis p4 instead of Rumani

[umbral belfry]

should u actually OL your pvp units...i oughta shake u like I do echo

[sleek imp]

thank you Railtracer, my forever PVP king

[sleek imp]

Anis over Rumani

[umbral belfry]

manchor burst gen is pretty meh

[sleek imp]

alright, time to OL a SR unit

[placid bloom]

Anchor is like barely passable in CA, not usable in SPA unless you're in diamond maybe

[umbral belfry]

sir sr anis shoyld be last on your list

you just got centi 😭

[umbral belfry]

tbh i think manchor is overrated but that's just me

[placid bloom]

she is pretty bad when you have everything else yes

[umbral belfry]

for pvp at least

great for pve

[sleek imp]

So my scar is missing helmet, who should I ol next for pvp content?

[placid bloom]

Jackal because you will also use her in rookie

then Trina

[sleek imp]

I havent touched Rookie in 2 weeks

not bricked right?

[placid bloom]

no it doesn't matter

[umbral belfry]

rookie isn't really important imo

mostly a team testing ground

[sleek imp]

kinda wastes my time

[placid bloom]

but she is still going to be your most used unit regardless of mode

[sleek imp]

okay BET

[umbral belfry]

altho I do suggest you do it daily just ror the arena tix

helps with skill books and what not

[placid bloom]

and having extra HP on her is useful if you're gonna start experimenting with other things like Blanc

[sleek imp]

wait isnt Trina the most used unit for me? I have her for PVE SRS too

[sleek imp]

Never touched Blanc

okay nevermind, l'll just ol Jackal, pray I get black defense line

[placid bloom]

[sleek imp]

[placid bloom]

you should not be touching them past initial roll at your sync

[sleek imp]

should I Doll PVP units?

[swift mango]

Bro attacked when I was swapping cube for CA and lost.

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

5 min ago, recently, recently... tell him to touch grass

[placid bloom]

caught taking a dump

[swift mango]

Dude gems until he wins so I haven't changed my team against him at all... But sometime he still lose because I changed cube

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

gemming from 3rd place to 2nd

but why

[umbral crown]

to send a message

[umbral belfry]

what's the msg

[umbral crown]

i can take your spot even if i have to gem

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Idk, he always gems.

The only reason he was C2 is because C1 out CP us too much.

[umbral crown]

but blood teams are something something... last time he said he had some lv1 in P2

[swift mango]

It was long ago. Before I have Noah.

[umbral crown]

but now you have actual nikkes in sync?

[forest zodiac]

@umbral crown rosy, may I ask you to help with CA teams please

[swift mango]

Ofc. I could CP press the other plebs a bit now no reason to not.

[umbral crown]

i usually do not build CA teams but lets make an exception, send your nikkes in horizontal mode shorted by power only

[sleek imp]

@placid bloom Is Anis really worth it

[umbral crown]

also your cube levels, tempura, quatum

[sleek imp]

Thats one of his worst team btw

[placid bloom]

well you have no OL, ofc your CP is gonna be low

you can CP pad for now and fix it later

[sleek imp]

Got it

[forest zodiac]

Tempering 5
Quantum 7

[placid bloom]

put Naga or Anchor or w/e instead of Anis

[umbral belfry]

i forgot no more solo raid for now

[sleek imp]

👌🏼

[placid bloom]

if you have dolls it's time to start dolling up your girls too

[sleek imp]

wait nvm Anis has similar CP as my Anchor

[placid bloom]

<R15 on Scarlet is depressing

[swift mango]

I just hopped in CA real quick and swapped the delta out for another team. That's about all I did this season.

[sleek imp]

My crown isnt even R15 yet

Just got her doll from the SR that was shut this morning

[tropic summit]

jokes aside, minus the lack of emilia, should be doable

[tropic summit]

he can run standard teams minus rosanna archetype

gonna be a yolo shotty team probably

[forest zodiac]

@umbral crowndo I need to make screenshot of unsynched ones? did I do screenshots above right?

[swift mango]

Yeah, just like your teams.

[umbral belfry]

i thought you were watching ubw until i realized what you meant 😭

[tropic summit]

well i did watch it tho, good times, tohsaka was best route

[umbral crown]

just twll me if you have trina

[umbral belfry]

let's not get too crazy

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio lanius just hit you

[umbral crown]

now hit donte to send him to diamond

[forest zodiac]

I don't have trina

[tropic summit]

draws sword

[tropic summit]

well then who was your favourite

out with it.

[umbral belfry]

why that kid got 12 pack abs

[loud sonnet]

For some reason I act like some sort of notification everytime he gets hit

[umbral belfry]

sakura solely bc saber alter + medusa's time to finally shine > saber = rin

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

ok i can respect that

[umbral belfry]

would be nice to see saber's route get remade tho

[umbral belfry]

🤝

[placid bloom]

There was barely any SAlter action, it was like 2 scenes

[umbral belfry]

that was all i needed

and medusa stopped getting shafted

[tropic summit]

i did get my knees weak when she got revelead

especially that look.

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

You had to watch 3 hours of Sakura to get there though, and she is by far the most boring heroine to watch she is always either apologizing or doing nothing

[umbral belfry]

as long as you don't speak bad about medusa

[tropic summit]

character growth and finding out all the shit she went through, should generally let you rethink that

she's meant to start off boring

clingy and weak in fact

then things happen

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

Nah they barely even went through her backstory in the movie, they just assume you already knew what happened. At most there was like a 1 min flashback of the insect pit and a short explanation from Zouken

The rest was current timeline

[tropic summit]

oh i guess that's true though, i'm remembering her the most from the VN afterall

the movie might've not covered her enough

[umbral belfry]

this reminds me to get back to playing fate ccc

[tropic summit]

did it ever get translated?

think i last saw also extra was getting some sort of remake

[umbral belfry]

yeah the eng translators finished it

maybe like 2 years ago? maybe 1

[tropic summit]

hmm seems like the time has finally come then 🍿

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

here an indea , you can change Maid anchor for naga

[forest zodiac]

thanks, much appreciated

but there are too many characters with tempering cube

at level 5 I have only 3 slots

[umbral crown]

moran noise and noah then

[wicked horizon]

Any ideas what could beat this guy?

[sleek imp]

Thelm on burst with Emila?

Does that actually work?

[wicked horizon]

It's just to make it 2RL, I imagine.

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Soda, Cindy, Blanc

[wicked horizon]

Gonna need a bit more context than that.

[sleek imp]

2RL just to let Thelm be the dps

[wicked horizon]

For sustain, I'd imagine.

It's quite sturdy.

[sleek imp]

I think what he means by that is to use Blanc to counter the scar team?

[umbral belfry]

boy do i have news for you 👀

[sleek imp]

What is it

I have Phase 3 helm too

[umbral belfry]

burst max helm hits like a truck. helm bursting in specific teams is pretty common

you're basically dead unless taunted into immune (e.g moran/noah + bisc)

[sleek imp]

Does my current progression allow me to build one helm on burst team?

[umbral belfry]

maybe

[sleek imp]

once I beat MC its all over

3-4 month in, now at MC, Im proud of myself

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scarlet Soda can stun both Noise and Noah, but it'll depend on whether your Scarlet can wipe or no
2RL Cindy Noah is easy counter for 2RL Scarlet
Blanc & ScarBS/Emi is counter to Moran & Bay, just make the speed similar to them/bring decoy to take HelmT burst

[tropic summit]

1st option

[wicked horizon]

Taunt doesn't taunt stun though? 🤔
Who's going P1 in T2 to get stunned?

[tropic summit]

2nd option

[umbral belfry]

the sbs blanc team could intentionally be slower iirc. the amount of times i've seen sbs blanc rapu 3.5-4 rl beat a 2 rl moran bay helm

[umbral belfry]

wouldn't helm burst before blanc can get an indom off?

and then booms link?

[tropic summit]

3rd option

you should abuse the lack of biscuit in enemy T3, abuse the lack of 2RL in enemy T1, abuse the lack of indom in T2

if you had rosanna there's a 4th option

[tropic summit]

that team is pushed to 2RL via feed (moran)

[wicked horizon]

Doesn't team 2 just get swiped by Scarlet here?

[tropic summit]

it's 2RL vs 2RL

you're well past B2 when opponent goes B3

[crystal flicker]

They do

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, but... There's no Noah? What's keeping me alive?

[tropic summit]

to answer ur question better hime, can refer to this example of 3RL promoted to 2RL via moran

[tropic summit]

sir you're on noise, it makes single buff scarlet no longer lethal

[crystal flicker]

Noahless

[wicked horizon]

I specifically had this situation here when I was betting on a match, and Soda did not target the one who had taunted her.

[tropic summit]

keep in mind i didn't even use noah there, you can replace with centi if your noise isn't invested

[wicked horizon]

Noise gets stunned?

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

B1 doesn't get stunned

[umbral belfry]

not at 2 rl

[tropic summit]

B2 and B3 do on 2RL

[wicked horizon]

Fair enough.

[tropic summit]

again, noah wasn't used in either T2 or T3, siren isn't even linked, you can run her on p5 if you want extra assurance

noise rumani cind helm noah

[umbral belfry]

but even if that scar team becomes 2 rl, she can power thru moran's dmg run + helm sustain on indom? i never tried this actually

[tropic summit]

yeah scarlet should solo afterward

assuming it isn't a bricked scarlet with 0 ammo OL like someone runs here

[umbral belfry]

[crystal flicker]

Are you sure Soda gets taunted?, because from testing she did stun 1 taunter and another taunt can go random or go to another taunter with similar cs

[tropic summit]

since bay links with entire team, that means moran also links

then scarlet goes s2 spree

on ele weak link thanks to helm

ele dmg s2 on whole team 🍿

[umbral belfry]

naruhodo

[wicked horizon]

It's been too long for me to have a replay, but I specfically banked on this happening since... I believe it was Echo told me it would happen, and it didn't.

[hazy shore]

hello! best rosanna shotgun team?

[tropic summit]

draket bsoda rosanna bay noir for survival oriented
draket bsoda rosanna naga/vipert (phase 2) noir for snowball dmg oriented

[wicked horizon]

This one.

[umbral crown]

bricked

if i want to avoid siren stun, i just use X.Mica

[crystal flicker]

That's mean she didn't get taunted

[umbral crown]

[wicked horizon]

Maybe she won't get taunted in this instance either, idk.

[kindred delta]

Hey there~ I would really appreciate it if I could get some guidance for making 3 teams. I have all Nikke except for Arcana, Trony and Bready. I can also invest in Rumani or someone else if that would complete one of the teams

[crystal flicker]

Moran is 60ammo, so there's no way she can taunt 2RL B1

[tropic summit]

soda is tauntable and consistent

sauce tests:
#pvp-arena message

[wicked horizon]

You were conveniently ignoring me back when I first posted those messages. =|

[tropic summit]

which ones? i don't check this chat often anymore

[wicked horizon]

The one you replied to.
You posted just before me.
And a bit after.

[tropic summit]

because in between i was looking for the post above

if that's the timeframe you mean

[crystal flicker]

Rail retired from PvP MA

[wicked horizon]

I mean, this post. You replied to my post from a while ago.
You were active then when I was discussing this with Echo.

[tropic summit]

siren scarlet trina xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind helm noise
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace

can improve T2 from 3RL to 2RL once your rumani is ready

[tropic summit]

but i was never MA

i'm just a casual

[tropic summit]

i'm sorry point is? I might be missing something

[wicked horizon]

Nothing. It's not important.

[crystal flicker]

Should've be MA tbh, to get those leftover free merchs

[wicked horizon]

I simply remarked that you were active in chat as I brought this up a week ago, and yet you said nothing.

[tropic summit]

not worth, although i was happy with just people saying thanks tbh

[tropic summit]

might've been cuz i was on/off, not as active anymore

[wicked horizon]

(I won)

[keen vapor]

Taunts on burst baka!

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/what-salvatore-nani-gif-22914946

[whole moss]

Could someone help me build some teams for arena? I have some spots left in synchro to lvl units if needed

[kindred delta]

Thank you! Where would I be putting Rumani once I got her raised?

[tropic summit]

sync 214 with 2B? you're not gonna enjoy pvp sir

[wicked horizon]

Not 25% stunning of Bay
https://loginportal9999.funnyjunk.com/hdgifs/Remorseless+aroused+groaning_51b7d9_11596955.mp4

[whole moss]

dont really plan on enjoying it tbh, more like getting it out of the way for the rewards

[tropic summit]

turn T2 into noise centi cind helm rumani

[vague slate]

my 5th team is so cooked

[wicked horizon]

Anyways, you said beat this team with 2RL Scarlet
And the other team with 2RL Noah?

Wait, no, I need to... not have Noah be in the front there.
Rumani can go first...

This is like my third attempt against the guy (over a while), I feel like it's not gonna work.

Nevermind, I got him.
Thanks @tropic summit

[crystal flicker]

Noah P2 w/o passive taunter isn't the best

[wicked horizon]

wdym?

[oblique ridge]

Enemy Siren wasn’t p1 or p2 though

[crystal flicker]

I can run 1RL against that kind of Noah

[oblique ridge]

So no hijinks of Noah taunting Siren onto her and getting stunned as if it was a joke

[wicked horizon]

1RL?

[tropic summit]

liter centi scarlet rh emilia
noise naga cindy anis pepper
auto

get helm treasured
get noah in synchro and build her (4/4/4, 4OL, doll R15-SR5)
throw anis for the moment in synchro, get trina/rumani asap to replace her
wishlist jackal, biscuit

a 3rd team can be built once you've biscuit or jackal or noah ready

[tropic summit]

you welcome, good job

[crystal flicker]

Right maybe not 1rl, but still giving enemy feeds

[tropic summit]

ye the whole point of abusing non linked siren is to put your B2 or B3 to non p1 to prevent being stunned, would be a different story if siren was linked in p1 or p2, as your noah would taunt her

[wicked horizon]

Oh, I see what you mean.
Well, I can't put Noah on P5, because then Biscuit bursts.

[spiral onyx]

Soda is definitely secret tech

[oblique ridge]

It barely matters since you’re attacking

[tropic summit]

"secret"

[oblique ridge]

You have the initiative in comp on attack

[spiral onyx]

unfortunately its gotten to the point where secret tech doesn't play out much anymore cause too many other techs

[umbral belfry]

sniffing u out in our baby ca brackets

[spiral onyx]

my XMica secret tech also never got to properly see the light of day cause we got tons of burst gen batteries afterwards

[wicked horizon]

Okay, I sleep.

[umbral belfry]

[whole moss]

Ty for your time 🙏

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

Also talked a bit about Soda during CA S1

[keen vapor]

humans apparently don't get probability

[keen vapor]

[kindred delta]

Will do, thank you again for the help

[vague slate]

I have a >4RL team because I can't pull rumani or noah may rng bless me for a few matches perhaps

[umbral belfry]

may you be lucky in your pools tomorrow

[vague slate]

thanks hime and you as well !

(inb4 gets placed in the same pool)

[umbral belfry]

😭 DON'T JINX IT??

[tropic summit]

are you using anis and your clip SGs?

[vague slate]

Yeah, except Neon I guess..

[crystal flicker]

Neon P23 are Clip

[vague slate]

Is it better to guarantee burst gen or use a unit thats fairly invested through campaign

[umbral belfry]

burst gen

you could have the most invested pve unit ever, but bc there's no cp deficit in CA if you run a super slow team filled with notihng but invested pve/attempting to cp gap, you're gonna have a bad time

[vague slate]

thanks, I think I can cook something up then

burnt toast

[umbral belfry]

i believe in u. and somewhere @coarse solstice believes too

[vague slate]

[coarse solstice]

Blood out here making incredible manga suggestions

[raven plover]

maybe try these teams, less rng. bottom is like 25% losing chance, just get lucky or you want to use Ade her debuff shield is useful

[coarse solstice]

Heart of the cards @vague slate

[opaque hemlock]

sorry for the bother, any suggestions of team i shoukd focus on for sp arena? thanks a lot. im in diamond if it is relevant

[tropic summit]

you're lacking a few pvp meta nikke, can run these temporarely (prefer CP for most cases for now)
aim for 3RL or 4RL with decent CP balance, else just run full CP teams

Rookie
naga centi SBS RH siren

SP arena
naga anchor:IM RH laplace anis
blanc sbs biscuit liter/RRH centi
auto (highest CP leftover units)

if you're unfamiliar with arena mechanics/jargon, i suggest a 5-10 min read of this one
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

notes:
-get helm treasured
-throw anis and drake in synchro
-wishlist jackal, noah, noise, rapunzel, cinderella, scarlet, trina, rumani

get teams reviewed especially if any of the above minus noise and rapunzel are found

[opaque hemlock]

thanks! appreciate that

[wise horizon]

Thanks. I will try that

[umbral crown]

[thin abyss]

Does anyone know how good is Mihara for pvp? Should I use her in CA?

[crystal flicker]

I underestimate HelmT, since she doesn't die from Cindy burst despite being Ele weak lmao

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

usually happens

[crystal flicker]

Niche, and unless you know what you're doing, no.

[crystal flicker]

Should I 101010 Quiry and Rapunzel?

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/love-live-mari-ohara-kanan-matsuura-rain-raining-gif-16738050898403828539

ies

the goal is to max skill and max doll nero team

[fast relic]

Who all is on the Nero team

[crystal flicker]

I can max doll if they rerun Drake Pass

[strong hull]

Just make another pass with new treasure

[snow kraken]

Jackal pass surely

[umbral crown]

laplace pass

[umbral crown]

check the pic above

[fast relic]

Oh right thank you

[umbral crown]

[final wedge]

this is annoying....my SPA trend is switching their 3rd team into SG now....i shouldnt use it....now its like getting back to early game

[umbral crown]

SG rosanna?

[final wedge]

vary....

[umbral crown]

scar jack then

[final wedge]

I introduce them with 2RL SG team with Noah

now they are poppin with various team with BSoda and Sugar as the core unit

[final wedge]

yea its easy but it has so many niche comps dat i cant just straight away jumps in and attack

BSoda Drake is quite flexible.....popin Rosanna, Anne, Rapunzel, etc....easily change the use

can easily adjust what u thought ur opponent scar team might be since SG team is very easy to target using Scar

wrong Scar team set = RIP attack

[umbral crown]

true that

[final wedge]

back there i just easily pick their 3rd team without changing my attacking team.....easy wipe....now....i gotta put more extra time like 4-5min to move the team

[umbral crown]

thats nothing

[final wedge]

i shuldnt restart the SG meta

[umbral crown]

but sg is meta in CA, was about time i could go back to sp

but the thing is not everyone has SG invested

[final wedge]

problem is....i cook and they copy ....i kept fighting my own formation more often now

[umbral crown]

good way to see the weak points in your cooks

[empty marlin]

hello, can anyone help me build team rookie & sp team 🙏
i guess tldr is i dont have noah, max treasure are helm, viper, drake

[crystal flicker]

Rookie just use Scarlet comp

[empty marlin]

thx will try it !

[wise horizon]

T3 is fine but I thought I had T1 with no problems. 3RL vs 4RL but I lost somehow even I beat it before…. Don’t have Trina for this

[crystal flicker]

Siren all day

Just realized you're whale bullying F2P smh

[swift mango]

Just biscuit wall them.

Or use a Makima.

Where your max investment Moran?

P5 Cindy works wonder against SG Rosa.

[final wedge]

nope not gonna use her on attackin team ....maxed investment unit VS 0 investment makima....it will cause me to calc the CP gap

[final wedge]

its on SAnis

[swift mango]

Whale worry about CP gap. 🧱

[final wedge]

im still 36-36 so im still stocking up the chest

560 still cant pass n!gga snek

[final wedge]

i ditch my Cindy team in both offensive and defensive....too slow n too predictable

SG easier to modify the need

[swift mango]

We found ourselves a fake whale.

[final wedge]

u have no idea how to aim using pepega hand

[swift mango]

Nothing bad about predictable ATK team wtf. 🧱

[final wedge]

i found SG BSoda and Drake is way easier to mod in both defensive and attackin...

add Robanana + Anne = can tackle 5 buffs Scar team
add Noah + Pepper = can tackle 2 RL Cindy

[swift mango]

Whatever works for you.

[primal charm]

wait how sg team viable in spa

i mean its suck at defense isnt it

and if they use on attack, how do you know

[kind palm]

opponent need to not kill 2 early or kill viper too early or sg team become 2RL for rosanna B1
while sg pressure their p5 atk team

my old sp def

rosanna p4 is better to avoid emilia spread

[swift mango]

it's very easy to beat with 3 rl cindy cindy p5 ofc, and put random b1-2 unit to p1-4 so long as it get to 3rl.

[tropic summit]

it's sparena, everything is easy, just a bit less when opponent is pushed to run specific lineups at least

[swift mango]

Not easy when you got CP gapped with 2rl teams.

[tropic summit]

easy, just swipe

there's always a solution

[kind palm]

if sg team cp gap then cindy gonna still melt lol

[swift mango]

[kind palm]

kill earlier than 2rl will force biscuit out of attacking team 1 2 ig lol

I have enough boxes stashed to cp gap harder but gonna wait for campaign
only 1 guy hitting me after shuffle

[final wedge]

for those who cant cook, its easy to trap em

[final wedge]

naa...not really.....old meta where SG shine, attacking P5 when ur defending is very good....many prolly forgotten about it after so long

and thus it became viable again in my SPA

[regal garden]

where to find this config website?

I have giant troubles integrating Biscuit and Blanc in these builds... May someone help?

[livid marsh]

the compensation so little lol

[thorn pagoda]

nice

[runic coral]

help beating this comp?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH Centi Jackal

[runic coral]

no trina

[crystal flicker]

Is that Rapunzel linked to Jackal?

[runic coral]

unsure but it seems that cp pad team just survives through noah and ends :d

[crystal flicker]

You always have Siren if you're willing to gamble

Or Soda

2RL HelmT will destroy whoever linked to Jackal, but if Rapunzel survives she'll rev Alice and beat your comp

[runic coral]

I'll keep that in mind thank you

[crystal flicker]

Or you know, ScarBS Blanc RH Flex Jackal

[runic coral]

I might actually be able to run my blanc since he's way lower cp than me 🤔

[crystal flicker]

He only has 3s immune from Noah, and you have 10s Indom, that's 7s free hit to them

[runic coral]

I'll try it rn

[crystal flicker]

Mind the link ScarBS wants Jackal link

[runic coral]

scarbs is my most invested unit so np

works great, tyvm

[covert lintel]

Finally my noah is adjustable now
I had a hard time before because i got 20cs on my noise

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio you got sent to diamond 1

[wild patio]

[sterile musk]

guys i need some help this chinese guy is starting to cook me

[crystal flicker]

It just Rookie tho

[sterile musk]

i wanna get 1 place doesnt it give a special character frame ?

[loud sonnet]

No

[crystal flicker]

Only SP in CN server gave that

And if you care about PvP, SP Arena is the way

For gems income and CA qualifier, you can get frame from CA

[sterile musk]

Ok thanks

[tulip lodge]

anyone help me build my 2 team pvp plz

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[crystal flicker]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani
Blanc Emi RH Anis/Biscuit Centi

[tulip lodge]

thank u

[loud sonnet]

I think you are safe now surely they will only their free attacks

[upper grove]

Can someone help me cook for CA? My bracket has a lot of 4RL blanc sbs biscuit rapunzel xmaiden teams, lost against one last time

[crystal flicker]

Tbh I'd rather run 2RL Cindy than half assed Stall

Soda/Siren in Scarlet comp

[upper grove]

So keep SG, siren in scar comp, change cindy to 2 RL

[crystal flicker]

Oh you have the same bracket as my alt yeah

[upper grove]

What do I do with moran and blanc though

[signal hull]

If I use Noah and Noise (obviously trying to avoid Siren stun on Noah), does it matters if I put Noah in P1 or P2?

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

It does, Noah/Noise will taunt P1 P2, so if you put P1 Noah against P3 Siren, she'll stun your Noah coz she's not taunted

[signal hull]

So I should do P1Noise, P2Noah?...

Speaking purely about SpA: shouldn't I put Siren in OG Scar team to P1, so she got stunned if things go south (and she'll probably stun someone else anyway)? Is P3 Siren some CA-only thing?

[crystal flicker]

This last season Champion if you need ref

[upper grove]

What kind of investment is needed for the nero moran stall team

[crystal flicker]

Yes, you can put Siren in P1 if she's linked to Jackal
and P3 Siren is only for easy choice attacker in SP against Noah

[crystal flicker]

SR15, 10/10/10, preferably 18% CS on HelmT and XMaiden

[upper grove]

I'm very far away from that

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, that's why it's better to optimize other team

[upper grove]

What about this, idk what last team should do still have laplace t left

[signal hull]

What if I put Jackal in P1 and Siren in P3? :/
Jackal/Scarlet/Siren/Trina/Anis
Risk of being oneshot through the link? But this is a 2RL team and unless it oneshots enemy itself, it fails anyway.

[upper grove]

Siren scarlet linked

[crystal flicker]

I still prefer Siren P1 or P2 if she's linked to do investment check, since she'll stun lowest CS if there's multiple taunters
Siren burst also helps to 1 tap enemies, coz she give allies 10% damage up

[crystal flicker]

Can't you make that 2nd team 3RL tho

[upper grove]

Sure I can swap anis instead of xmaid for 3RL

Then I still have laplace t and xmaid left for 5th team

[upper grove]

My quantum is still not lvl 7, is it still enough or do I need 2 quantum then

[crystal flicker]

IF you want to be save

Though I'm sure Blanc ammo will round it few ms after that

[upper grove]

Sounds good enough to me

Now what to cook for last team

[crystal flicker]

I'm not sure tbh
XMaiden Tempering

[upper grove]

I'll give that a try, still 3 RL

Swap RH positions vs SG or does that even matter?

[crystal flicker]

What's your Noah and Rumani CS

And how many Quantum do you have

[upper grove]

3 quantum total, noah rumani 0 CS

Noise has 2x 4.92%

[upper grove]

The cook is real

[crystal flicker]

Cindy kinda risky though, since she's vulnerable to 2RL Nuke

[upper grove]

Would you say it's still worth it?

[crystal flicker]

But she can stand against ScarBS, SG, and slow Nuke

[raven plover]

move cindy to 3rd and pray miracle happens

[placid bloom]

just need fat Noise burst

[shell hazel]

I've cooked some nonsense I'll post it here once it's live

probably won't win but I'll have some fun watching them

[crystal flicker]

Or this

You can even put Raven at the last team if you want to gamble the dev fix

[tropic summit]

replace rapu with an SG or replace xmaiden with rumani, you want indom to be 3RL or it loses to general 3RL nuke

[crystal flicker]

Rail cooking

[tropic summit]

pepper can work as B1 + burst gen

[crystal flicker]

Also you know, team forming is only half of CA preparation, the other half is deciding where to put which team

[tropic summit]

indeed, le RNGods play the biggest part

nothing tastes better than running 2RL scarlet right into 2RL bay or noah

[upper grove]

Sounds about right

[tropic summit]

or 2RL biscuitless noah into SG snowball

or 2RL non indom vs 2RL indom

damn the list goes on and on

[upper grove]

Rail would you recommend the 1st cook with 3RL cindy or the 2nd one with 2RL cindy?

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet
2RL noah
2RL or 2.5RL noise+bay
3RL or 2.5RL indom
SG snowballz (prefer drakeT bsoda bay/poli/viperT stage2/xanne ros noir)

try to aim for the archetypes above

[upper grove]

The R unit is raven right?

Drake t or bsoda bursting in SG team? Always used bsoda so far

[tropic summit]

drakeT has better single target, bsoda has better mid tier nuke

[crystal flicker]

yeh

[pale knoll]

Latest CA cook?

[tropic summit]

put in p1 whoever is squishiest for le sacc

[pale knoll]

[crystal flicker]

Tbh DrakeT better if you Rosaless

[tropic summit]

well seems like chinnits are running mostly that and those have decent win ratio

[upper grove]

Rosaless atm

[crystal flicker]

Avg P1 in SG comp die at 2.5RL

[upper grove]

Well not rosaless but tetra armorless and rockless

[crystal flicker]

How I know this? Because I run Pinne P23 in P1

So if you want to burst with DrakeT, Simply put Poli at P2

[upper grove]

Scar in 2RL doesn't need tempering right? If I go bastion I can get to 3 atk stacks but risk being stunned by siren

[crystal flicker]

BSoda should die and make DrakeT burst instead

You can count the ammo

How many ammo do you have, how many ammo lines

[upper grove]

She has 31 ammo

Below 32 is siren safe?

[raven plover]

then go tempura

[crystal flicker]

Isn't 31 ammo is 3 atk stacks

[raven plover]

yea

[upper grove]

Yeah miscounted, thougt she needed 12 hits per stack

[crystal flicker]

32 is safe, 33 is stunned

[vague slate]

1.5 hr left 😬

[sterile musk]

good teams for sp as a beginner ?

[shell hazel]

wouldn't overly worry about it yet you probably still missing a lot of units and you need to push campaign first and foremost

just wishlist the key ones in case you get lucky on normal pulls

[sterile musk]

yea i did iam trying to build a good sg team with my drake

[shell hazel]

Jackal
Rumani
Centi
Trina
Noah
Noise
Helm (you need her at 2* for treasure)
Rapunzel (good to have at least once)
Scarlet (both at least once, SBS + drunk one)

those are current meta core units worth having on wishlist

[sterile musk]

current wishlist

[shell hazel]

oh can't forget Blanc ofc

make sure you got most of the units above I mentioned, you're missing Rumani etc in your list there

[sterile musk]

i could change naga i got her once last summon so i will get liter and naga now at 3 star guaranteed

[shell hazel]

if you want to compete more in pvp

pilgrim is more competed as you need meta pilgrims for pve as well

like crown/siren/rapi you're missing are required

you could drop rh and cindy out for OG scarlet + noah though for pvp reasons

[sterile musk]

yea i could do that let me think

[shell hazel]

you can drop ein/volume out

you don't need more than one rouge really either

[upper grove]

After the cooking I rolled the dice for team positioning

[shell hazel]

I did that last time, this time I just kind of put them where I felt like it lol

[sterile musk]

this for pilgrim ?

[shell hazel]

other scarlet for pvp

SBS for pve

[sterile musk]

the sword one

[shell hazel]

yes

she is pvp meta

[sterile musk]

k thx

[shell hazel]

you only need Noah once, you can get extra copies of Noah from silver mileage over time

but Noah is also very important to have, once you get one of those 5 swap in the Scarlet you had there

as you do need both of them long term 🙂

show me the rest once you settled on the wishlist I'll check for missing stuff

[sterile musk]

dont know what to put at missilis i dont need the naga anymore

[shell hazel]

who are you missing?

I can suggest the last if you show the missing ones

[shell hazel]

may as well add quency or mana

mana more pvp, quency for pve, neither are really meta necessarily

once you get the missing pvp units in general you can consider changing the wishlist to a unit that is closer to MLB so you can break the 160 wall more comfortably

[sterile musk]

k i think iam done gonna show you

[shell hazel]

but just having each of the pvp meta units once is a good plan

need to fix tetra no rumani?

you don't really need Leona tbh, I've never used her even for SG team there are better options. can swap her for Rumani

can add her again later once you fill in gaps

[shell hazel]

maybe bunny soda in for Blanc for now

[sterile musk]

yea i saw her in some meta teams might be good

[shell hazel]

Blanc a decent long term pick mind you, but having a bunny soda once is good

congrats any SSR here is basically a win somewhere lol 😄

[sterile musk]

this soda ?

[shell hazel]

for pilgrim/overspec once you get one, consider adding Scarlet Black Shadow (next highest priority) then Rapunzel (less important)

other Soda, Bunny Soda

or Glitzerha something

[shell hazel]

yup good 🙂

if you start to get some units can fill better teams in

[sterile musk]

yo thx very nice

[shell hazel]

np

the other Soda you can get later for shenanigans but she's not true meta either

[tulip wren]

Is arcana and k good for sp pvp

[sterile musk]

i have also done this coop raid on challenge mode with drake do you think i can get more ?

[shell hazel]

you can challenge it as often as you want btw it's not limited to 3 times per day

you need a team to carry you to a few hundred million you'll barely do any damage

[sterile musk]

yea i know i dont know if its worth my time to try more

i need to play another game too

[shell hazel]

top 10% is worth if you can get it but don't hyper focus on it

[shell hazel]

they are not

[sterile musk]

my drake does quite alot she already has treasure on 2 stars

[shell hazel]

if your team gets past the QTE phase and has OK damage you can get top 10%

[sterile musk]

yea i got past that but only got to 30%

[shell hazel]

it's based on your team damage

bottom left go to ranking list

your highest run counts

[shell hazel]

you're not personally going to add much damage, it's a shame you don't seem to have litera as she would be your best unit to run

[sterile musk]

i got liter 1 star

[shell hazel]

run her, you're just there to burst 1

then the rest of your team can get you some actual dps

if you run drake you may force someone with higher CP to run a support

and your lack of dps doesn't matter then

[sterile musk]

upgrade any abilities ?

[jolly maple]

rei stop farming me in rookie arena

[shell hazel]

nah you're fine on 4's for now

only bump her skills if you run her in main team

refer the prydwen character list for recommended skill levels, you can't max everyone so pick wisely

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/liter

my priorirty is:
1 - my main campaign units
2 - my pvp units
3 - ??

if a unit does both then even better (Cinderella is good in both for example)

[sterile musk]

this was expensive xD i got cindy to all 7s

[shell hazel]

DPS > supports for general skill and investment as well it has more impact

it's worth

Cindy wants 10/7/10 per the investment guide on prydwen in the end

I imagine she is your main dps carry along with Drake

[sterile musk]

yea i know cindy is the best boss killer currently not the best in story tho

[shell hazel]

she's good enough in story I used her a lot

[sterile musk]

ye i will try

[shell hazel]

my two main team comps, I usually need RH if I need to burst fast, Cindy is a bit on the slow side

Helm is the best treasure/healer/burst gen pairs well with Crown

[sterile musk]

ye i wanted to build her treasure after drake i could buy a body to get her to 2 star when i get her in summons

[shell hazel]

it's worth it

she is meta in pvp too best burst gen in the game

[sterile musk]

i should wait to buy when i get her once right ?

[shell hazel]

yes

the fav item will only swap when the new fav items are out, for now it's there every day

I'd keep in wishlist beyond as well as it's good to add more cores, mine is core 5 as you can see

you pulling/getting Eve or Raven?

[oblique ridge]

Is it bad for Cinderella to be in p5 if it was possible?

[sterile musk]

YOOO

16 % 😭

[quick lake]

Cindy P5 has no problems at all.

[oblique ridge]

Neat

[shell hazel]

not bad, don't worry though we still have 1-2 more days

[oblique ridge]

Does she actually survive vs SGs more there?

Or crumples like paper anyway?

[shell hazel]

so you can try again later/tomorrow np, better score though. Also bear in mind the scores aren't final, I think you'd want 3-400M for 10%

will they target skip cindy p5 if SG?

[quick lake]

All SGs and SR will aim at her decoy first. So she’s more tanky, as decoy serves as another set of hp

[shell hazel]

ahhh

nice, her main burst gen issue at p1 is RL splash right?

as RL don't fire at P5 that won't be an issue

[quick lake]

yep

[oblique ridge]

I guess it's fine then if it works out

[quick lake]

P2 also not the best. Opponent RL units get 1.25x more gen

[shell hazel]

speaking of Cindy P1 I'm going to play spot Cindy P1 in CA again 👀

[oblique ridge]

I finished prepping my teams, unleash the hounds of war!

loses in groups

[shell hazel]

my teams are sort of weird

but eh it's fun to test, I'l post them in 30 odd mins

it might just be crazy enough to work, or it's bad enough to throw me out of quals

[oblique ridge]

I think mine's okay, just probably too low investment

Like enemy team survived Emilia nuke

[shell hazel]

I couldn't find a place to add my sort of invested Rapu due to speed

[oblique ridge]

I tried 7 rocks on Scarlet earlier hoping for good rolls

[shell hazel]

and my LapT is not ready but SU cancelled solo raid and it was my only chance to get the RL doll 😄

[oblique ridge]

Nada... shoulda saved

But I look at it this way... those same 7 rolls woulda sucked like hell on anyone else too

[shell hazel]

my Scarlet needs rolls I got like 10 rocks but I think I need more before I even try it

very valid

[oblique ridge]

At least I didn't experience something like, wow amazing roll... for someone else

[shell hazel]

yeah, like black line atk, black line ammo, and black line ele but it's on Liter

[oblique ridge]

Doom Shorty enters the arena

[shell hazel]

I got a nice roll on someone the other day but I need CS and so I have to undo it some day

rolled this on Rapu

although I can probably get away with just CS% on the other 3 pieces if they're all near to 5%

that's a fantastic roll for say RH though 😄

[swift mango]

7/10 roll on my bay has ATK, one even with atk+ele s3. But no CS.

[pale knoll]

[shell hazel]

this is my random as hell CA cook btw, blood will laugh but think of the Entertainmentu!

@hollow lagoon what group are you in?

[hollow lagoon]

ohnoes

[hollow lagoon]

28

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

what is Noah even doing there 2 B2's before her 😄

[placid bloom]

she's there to taunt p2 Mermaid to save Scarlet I guess.

[hollow lagoon]

i'm not comprehending that one my brain hurts

[placid bloom]

huge waste of resource

[shell hazel]

I'm not even running siren I couldn't find anywhere to put her on my crazy cook

[hollow lagoon]

just roll scarlet ammo or put jackal first not hard lel

[placid bloom]

I mean I did that with Noise but doing it with Noah is something else lol

since you can put Noise in p2 and have her burst to maybe survive Ros nuke

[shell hazel]

alright hear me out....
team 1 - 2.5RL with my CS on Noah + Centi. Pretty tanky + SG proof, RH main B3
team 2 - 2RL but questionable batteries. Mainly going for noise buffed Cindy with helm for 2RL. Hopefully Noise + Pepper + Anis survive long enough to burst
team 3 - 2RL Scarlet all that matters. Double maiden team for fun.
team 4 - Usual SG comp + Ros
team 5 - OK so @hollow lagoon you appear here. My link is with Jackal + Blanc + SBS so 2.5RL ish SBS indom should fire as long as p3/p4 don't take damage

[hollow lagoon]

i had 3 2rl cook once it dies pertty derp so i'm done with forcing copium 2rl

[shell hazel]

my cook is different to the usual meta teams we see and I hope it shakes up the dynamics enough to do something

well Scarlet should be OK, she gets invin from Trina

my Noise is OK tankiness also, I think it might be fine

[hollow lagoon]

welp u know my comp

[shell hazel]

the others are 2.5RL I've OL my units quite a bit so they're tankier than no OL gear etc

SG should promote to 2RL ish with Ros when b soda dies

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

what is Ros gen on death? 36% ish?

[hollow lagoon]

mine's 34

[shell hazel]

a lot of people run Rumani with Cindy but I figured I'll try swapping her out as I can 2RL without her

[hollow lagoon]

why run rumai with cindy?

[shell hazel]

it's common team we see

noise noah biscuit cindy rumani

[hollow lagoon]

i dont see merit with that team

[shell hazel]

only thing I can see is backup b1 for noise

and SG proof as def each side after noise dies

[hollow lagoon]

if u wanna siren proof just use xmica

[shell hazel]

nah it's not siren proof

[placid bloom]

I think that's 3RL? Because you need Helm instead of Rumani to hit 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

which i didnt and i regret

[shell hazel]

SG proof

SG on def hit P5, on attack P1, either side is defenders after noise dies you can't lose to normal SG comp

unless the SG team has a built Ros who smashes your Cindy (guess hard to do)

[placid bloom]

nah Ros can never one-shot Cindy

[hollow lagoon]

ros smashin cindy is hard

[placid bloom]

unless you have no doll no OL

but I don't even think she can be targeted in that case

she won't have high enough Atk

[hollow lagoon]

ros smashing my core 6 cindy is gonna need something insane

[raven plover]

decoy doesnt tank ros nuke?

[shell hazel]

ros can remove buffs maybe inc decoy?

[placid bloom]

from attacker I think?

not generic

[hollow lagoon]

2highest attacker

[raven plover]

[placid bloom]

nvm it's generic 2 highest Atk

[hollow lagoon]

so assuming equal ish investment ros will smash noise and buscuit in my team

[placid bloom]

but yeah Cinderella can have lower Atk than supports pre-B3

[unkempt monolith]

Now that I have Scarlet, Cindy, Rumani etc. Any tips for SP Arena and also Rookie Arena teams.
If there's a red dot in all SSRs, that means I have copies of them not activated yet (for some treasure units)
My old team they recommended me:
T1 Jackal Blanc SBS Biscuit Maid Anchor
T2 Noah SAnis Emilia Drake Rapunzel
T3 Crown Rapi Red Hood Alice Naga (team 3 is so bad for me)

[shell hazel]

sorry Juryll I've been working today and been too focused on this CA team cook stuff lol

I can take a look a bit later if no one else does, it'd likely be a couple of hours from now

[hollow lagoon]

ca's getting tough and tough to win

[shell hazel]

I saw you pinged me earlier then I got distracted 😛

[placid bloom]

it was always hard

even making it out of groups is not that easy anymore

[unkempt monolith]

all good, also i forgot to send my nikkes, here my new roster

[shell hazel]

my investments looking OK where it counts

if I get a purple doll for Moran I can get her to SR-15 as well

[shell hazel]

I'd like more pvp options, not necessarily broken units, just combinations that let you play with the meta some

it's one reason I'm just building a bunch of units, so I can see how they work

and change up what I send to try new stuff out 🙂

[fathom rock]

You really had to pinne?

[placid bloom]

dw it's getting upgraded to Pascal next month

[crystal flicker]

I might regret running SAnis P1 3RL

[placid bloom]

[fathom rock]

Wont she just die

[placid bloom]

surely you have backup B3

[shell hazel]

pinne?

[fathom rock]

That r unit

[shell hazel]

oh lol

[placid bloom]

someone didn't read Overzone

[shell hazel]

for SBS team?

[crystal flicker]

I've done several testing in Rookie, she survived tilll burst at least in 2.5

But my Centi don't have enough CS

[shell hazel]

someone only started playing with Cindy / old tales 😄

[placid bloom]

well that's what memory film is for\

[crystal flicker]

RH

[shell hazel]

ain't no one got time for that hehe

[fathom rock]

So just pray no high damage p1 users?
What about backup b3

[shell hazel]

nah I'd love to just hard to spend the time reading old events etc

i'm already behind on the new stuff

[crystal flicker]

Support have high base hp, and she has SR15

[placid bloom]

I think they're all available on blablalink as well, fully voiced too. Don't even need to clear the event in-game

[crystal flicker]

I've already calculated if SAnis die, RH will burst with Indom

[shell hazel]

my logic is that:
Jackal/Blanc/SBS are what makes the team work or not, the other two slots are just there for burst gen and I was basically out of batteries at that point

I can speed it up but then I slow down some other team to do it

[crystal flicker]

Deez is stuck 16 MasterclASS

[shell hazel]

I needed burst gen with low stats to not steal link from jackal, and pinne seemed to work

[crystal flicker]

I've always running Jackaless Scarlet few last CA, but now I'm runnning Scarlet Jackal again and directly meet with SG Rosa lmao

[shell hazel]

also only B3 who can trigger there is SBS, my 2RL version worked really well (lost to noah/biscuit opponents and one slower SBS indom lol)

actually the SBS indom duel was funny

[crystal flicker]

ScarBS indom too risky

[shell hazel]

I ran a similar comp last CA except battery was Anis + Neon, and it fired 4/4 times

at 2RL though, this is 2.5RL with the feed, might be fine still

[crystal flicker]

Well, no use to overthink this now
I'll back watching anime

[shell hazel]

watch this for a laugh
https://youtu.be/oQ8j5AIr8Dg?si=oyQY3SGNXnudHgTq&t=167

correct timestamp for it

i'm top/def there

[placid bloom]

k I did check, even the ones you didn't unlock are fully available. The ones that have voice lines will also show. Just something you can read during transit or w/e if you don't have time to clear in-game.

[crystal flicker]

Maybe the assess part is my half-invested Stall actually meet with Cindy

but based on test, they sometimes survive or they just die lol

[shell hazel]

so yep my budget sbs indom actually did OK but it means no jackal for OG scar

they burst too fast there and I lost as my indom expired sooner

I think I should get out of quals based on my opponents this time, after that

[unkempt monolith]

omg bruh i was about to do my solo raid runs but i just noticed they closed it, prob because of Raven

[shell hazel]

it was closed since before reset

I needs SR for my dolls lol, really struggling for RL purple dolls, have like 4 units who need one without inc Raven

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I won't analyse my matches unless I get into top 64 as I cba to add multiple opponent decks to check speeds :p

[hazy oxide]

Is there any new def comp i can copy for sp arena?

[hollow lagoon]

i had a quick look, might lose shug shrug shrug

[shell hazel]

you think you might?

[hollow lagoon]

depends if my rosana can nuke enemy helm

and if my scarlet kills enemy cindy

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-9186020

[hollow lagoon]

to be fair my comp's cp is a bit higher than all of them

[shell hazel]

my higher CP guy has thrown in random stuff lol, I think one of the guys with 500K less cp is more of a threat as they have some proper teams

[placid bloom]

I just eyeball the matchup and only check speed if it looks close

since group stage still has a lot of garbage

[shell hazel]

yeah I usually get through or lose on tie-break lol

[umbral belfry]

rng has blessed me for brackets

[placid bloom]

I think there is a lot more baby players this time

I see a lot of commander lv200-250

[umbral belfry]

🐣

[shell hazel]

better than bots at least

[vague slate]

wahoo! me too, I got 3 bots

[shell hazel]

I've actually never had a bot, but maybe global is more active in that regard?

[umbral belfry]

successfully dodged bad rng

[vague slate]

I think we're in the newest league? I am unsure

[vague slate]

Yup & now I'll get to cheer for myself once at least

[shell hazel]

then you lose to bots

[vague slate]

[placid bloom]

hmm I might actually lose to Rapu stun

think it's over for me

[shell hazel]

I'm happy I got to send @hollow lagoon into battle though, and mine isn't just there to die like yours is Zant 😛

[shell hazel]

nah you got this

[umbral belfry]

no kuwon lock in

[verbal aurora]

does anyone have that spreadsheet of pvp burst gen handy?

[umbral belfry]

in pins

[placid bloom]

I'm pretty sure it's top attacks down?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lock-in-gif-12021618010981182913

[shell hazel]

it might be I've had that before....

[placid bloom]

so I'm hitting Rapu but I'm 99.9% sure I don't deal lethal, which means I probably put her in stun range

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I'll see if I'm on all 3 attacks this time again I guess, not sure if we proved/disproved the theory that top is always attacking?

on at least 2 occasions I have been

[umbral belfry]

it's 100% rng for pools

I've been at the top but have defended

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

how does rapu stun worK? when she drop to 30% hp or does she has to burst first?

[umbral belfry]

more rng

[placid bloom]

she has to cast burst at <30% HP

[hollow lagoon]

lel

[placid bloom]

I think it's just bad matchup for Moran Helm Bay because it's not a team that can lethal with normals at 2RL but probably does enough to put her under 30%

see you next CA I guess

[shell hazel]

it's quite hard to engineer it

just nice if it comes off when you have her in a position to potentially b1 at < 30%

especially hard in CA with it's RNG mechanics on who you fight and whether you attack or def

[placid bloom]

I think it's fine the way he set it up, it's on 2RL Scarlet so even if she doesn't stun, her heal can potentially let Scarlet survive Ros nuke and if she does stun it's a bonus. If she dies there's a backup B1 on Jackal anyway

[shell hazel]

yeah that is the best way to do it, you put her in a position where she's useful if she lives or dies

she either tanks/stalls/takes siren stun or she triggers a decent enough b1 regardless

I wanted to run a scarlet/rapu comp but I need some CS to get that to 2.5RL without using all my batteries on it

otherwise you need at least 2 good batteries and probably a clip something or other

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

what you thinking Rosy? good chance?

[umbral crown]

Always

[placid bloom]

seems okay, not like Neon is particularly high value

[umbral crown]

Till now i have never lost in league

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/strength-strength-and-honor-gladiator-gif-26266140

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I don't know if I lost either necessarily I just wound up in a tie-break twice and SU weird metrics screwed stuff up 😛

[placid bloom]

Pascal probably a bit better to not die to Scarlet B2

[shell hazel]

pretty good. this is why I use Neon somewhere because of her burst gen

I got my friend to run this (they're not as seriously into pvp as I am)

[leaden canyon]

https://nikke-deck.web.app

[shell hazel]

I know it's siren weak but they have not invested rapu at all so too risky doing anything else without jackal 😄

[umbral crown]

Trina strong enough to live in P2

[shell hazel]

should be yeah

they invested scar/trina and it's only 2RL

[regal garden]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

rapu/anis nothing so too risky putting them p2 and also screws up other stuff if rapu dies + trina needs to b2

[umbral crown]

X. Mica and nero team back in business

[placid bloom]

kinda hard to see LapT in this bracket because s3 treasure came out pretty soon after, no way to get dupes anymore

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

who we do get soon, and yes the main draw back of neon/pepper variants is the feed + kill self on scarlet

I think pascal has similar or slightly higher burst gen as a b1 without feed due to being RL so potentially a good pawn to throw in with min invest

I'm not sure where I'd run LapT here but possibly I'd gun to move Jackal back with Scarlet and then drop SBS/indom in favour of a general DPS comp

[hollow lagoon]

scarlet is whatever

building teams around scarlet is just not worth it

[shell hazel]

OG scarlet?

[hollow lagoon]

yah

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

I don't use Siren, nor Soda, neither Cindy this CA. Looks like I don't get out of the league.

[shell hazel]

alright next CA Zant you're not allowed to run Scarlet 😄

you run her here so too late :p

[hollow lagoon]

i mean build around trying to counter scarlet

[swift mango]

That's some good challenge.

[shell hazel]

hmm I don't think I said about that, thought you meant running her?

[shell hazel]

it's the kind of thing they need to do though I def think CA would be more interesting if the cookie cutter teams were limited somehow

really make you cook 😄

[swift mango]

I champed last season without Moran and Cindy.

[shell hazel]

Blood go laugh at my teams

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

I do not use siren eithet, never used her tbh

But my mica is 7/10/10

[swift mango]

It's not that you don't use her. It's more like you don't even have her built.

[umbral crown]

Also this

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I see siren as basically an interference wildcard unit

but this time I am not running her either

[umbral crown]

I brought mica for the people who wants to stun my scar

[swift mango]

Well, next season I would bring Siren and Cindy. Promise.

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

similar to soda, interference wildcard

[umbral crown]

I like to see my new noah cp

171k at lv400

[swift mango]

Timing not fitting. Mica would burst before Siren stun your Scarlet.

[umbral crown]

2.5 scar

[swift mango]

Siren might feel it to 2

[umbral crown]

But 2 seasons ago i ran 2 rl scar mica and mica burst first than siren and my scat never got stunned

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I see Mica dispel the debuff that cause stun in the first place

But.... What if she dispels the wrong one, like Noah ATK debuff?

[swift mango]

Anyway, ignore this comment, my bad.

[lone rapids]

what's jackal other pos if not in 5th?

[swift mango]

1-2-5

[lone rapids]

ok tnx

[swift mango]

I don't even have Mica.... But do you have Siren though?

Pretty sus that you skipped her.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

I have siren, got her with free pulls but no with the 100 i did for her

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

I never get anything from the free pulls lol

[swift mango]

I got Cindy twice from free pulls. But 300+ gem pulls only 1 copy.

[shell hazel]

damn

I got no cindy/graves/midhara/sirens from all their free pulls, don't think I even got an SSR there

[swift mango]

I mean if you count it all, I got 3 Cindy in 400 pulls. Lower than average. So nothing lucky here

[keen vapor]

You don't have Mica and you'll skip Belorta?

[shell hazel]

no I'm way less lucky on last pilgrim set

[swift mango]

It's also my only SSRs from free pulls in this game.

[shell hazel]

220 pulls = 0 midhara
260 pulls = 1 rapi
100 pulls = 1 siren

nearly 600 pulls for 2 overspec/pilgrim rate ups

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

I'm ahead of my rival in SPA for the first time ever I think

[placid bloom]

this is why you only ever mileage them

[shell hazel]

I think I am slowly learning this

or at most you have x pulls you throw at it on the off chance you get lucky, I don't mind getting off-banner stuff still as I have no core maxes