pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

but make sure your campaign team is strong first and foremost

[swift mango]

He said everyone 101010

[high stream]

My campaign team is essentially all 4x OL .. 10/10/10 or something like 10/7/10 .. Alice for example

Basically optimal skill investment on all of them

[shell hazel]

gear beyond OL +0

or is all gear +5?

[high stream]

That's something I could do. It's all +0. Right now campaign team is stuck at 240K cp

[swift mango]

Helm +3 and every other pieces +1 at least

[shell hazel]

my crazy map of things lol

[high stream]

Campaign team

[shell hazel]

all gear +1 is very cheap to do

[high stream]

Helm lacking gear severly though. Cause Im still stuck farmnig effing ultra for helmets.

[shell hazel]

all gear +2 isn't too bad

[swift mango]

My campaign team +5 everything except the boots.

[shell hazel]

all gear +3 is a reasonable goal

+4 and +5 are expensive relatively, so I stopped at 3 for now and will come back to it

[high stream]

Also. You're all so incredibly helpful, what the faq lol.

Came here for PvP investment strategy, got account strategy

[shell hazel]

I OL my pvp units will do them all (I need to do extra for CA)

for now I'd probably +2 your main team and unlock some core dust + push both campaigns

[swift mango]

Then farming and upgrade her first and accept the lose.

In arena.

The new co.op mode has gear selector if you farm enough.

[high stream]

Btw .. I was told that Supporters should only be pulled to 10/10/10 super lategame.
My Crown is still 7/7/7 .. should I pull her to 10/10/10 before investing into pvp units?

[runic coral]

definitely

crown is an exception

[high stream]

And Siren?

[runic coral]

siren 10/10/7

[swift mango]

Yes. 101010 everyone in your campaign team if you want to minmaxing resource earning. It's the easiest way.

Then minmax OL lines, that's the hard way.

[runic coral]

10/10/10 if you have to spare

[swift mango]

101010 crown
101010 Siren
101010 Rapipi
101010 RH
101010 helmT.

Done

[high stream]

Oh. Something I just realized. I do have almost 20.000 books. Like 6K Skill 1 for example .. But how do I have that many but only so little of those??

Everything else I have 1K+ up to 6K

[runic coral]

these are from arena shop

[high stream]

Ohhhhhh. Thank god.

[runic coral]

do you buy selection boxes?

[keen vapor]

We also got selector boxes from Drake event

[high stream]

Yes, I have 5K of them

[runic coral]

you can use them

[high stream]

That's what I shall do

[keen vapor]

Nah, I'm gonna budget at least until summer units

[high stream]

Okay. Got all campaign units to optimal investment now.

[swift mango]

I will skip summer units.

[keen vapor]

You want to skip Summer Belorta?

[swift mango]

Yes.

[keen vapor]

why

[swift mango]

I think only you specifically exciting for summer belorta.

[keen vapor]

Until people see her

[swift mango]

Do you excite for Summer School Rei?

[keen vapor]

No?

[swift mango]

At least your strike zone isn't that low.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Come play Arknight, where every skin is free.

[keen vapor]

Where's fun gameplay

[swift mango]

It's the best of it genre in the gacha verse rn

[keen vapor]

How

[swift mango]

Quality 1-2 hour of rouge-like game mode where you select your initial units, recruiting more accord the board and upgrade them, getting skill on the way to finish the boss at the end.

It's amongst the gacha that need to use the most brain right now to play.

Ofc even map all has their own wits too if you wanted to beat them. No 2 events have the same mechanic as each others.

[keen vapor]

Like Limbus Company

[swift mango]

They have 1 way Collab with limbus company recently. Where only limbus company get the characters from AK and not the other way around.

[keen vapor]

and I missed it

@clear vessel don't think I didn't see you

I've been thinking wether or not same comps work on Abathur

[swift mango]

This is Degenbrecher, the strongest female swordwoman in the world of AK, in her halloween costume. The wand is just for decoration, she beats everyone with the "physical sword magic".

[keen vapor]

Not degen

[swift mango]

Magic exists in Arknight, called Art. She is the one of the strongest ones that doesn't know how to use it.

[keen vapor]

Maybe a good sign

Maybe a witch so no

[keen vapor]

Close

[swift mango]

She is the cool military mommy, no bs style.

[keen vapor]

Horns

And the face of a guy

no

[swift mango]

Guess you don't have tomboy fetish.

[keen vapor]

There's ranges blood

Kagura from Azumanga is cool and pretty

[keen vapor]

This right here is a handsome man that girls love to look at

[swift mango]

That's a cool mommy that many dude loves to be stepped on by.

[swift mango]

I think you like these styles more.

Arknight doesn't lack of those cute petite girls either.

[keen vapor]

.... Is that Korone the famous vtuber?

[swift mango]

What do you think about this one?

[keen vapor]

generic anime girl

[swift mango]

They are Goldenglow and Eyjafjalla. The 2 best caster in the game before a male caster come in to dethrone them

[swift mango]

Are you sure about that?

[keen vapor]

Caster that sounds like Fate

[swift mango]

Are you sure about the "generic anime girl"?

[keen vapor]

I can only tell that much from that art

If she loss her entire village I wouldn't be able to know it

[swift mango]

It's the same character

[keen vapor]

@swift mango how much did you buy with coop bones btw

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

All the good team work and doll mats.

[keen vapor]

So rich

I can't afford fodder boxes

I only got 45%

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown alicio en el país de las maravillas

[keen vapor]

No, close

So far I'm not liking the cast

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Quite a miracle when random teams can't clear QTE

[keen vapor]

No no there's casters

I'm not falling on this Fate-like IP

[swift mango]

Only top right are casters class... But more than half of Arknight population can use Art (similar magic) as they are born with it.

Actually the swordmaster mommy I showed at the begin is the rare case. She is cool because she beat art user swordmen without able to use it.

[keen vapor]

Guns

[swift mango]

There are gun in Arknight ofc, even gun user that use art to amplifier their gun

[keen vapor]

You don't bring swords to a fight with guns

[swift mango]

Not if the sword could cut building easily

[keen vapor]

Volume proceeds to kill Mustang

[swift mango]

Because of world physical law and material restrictions in Arknight, guns in Arknight aren't very strong. It's a lore reason made when gun user from Collab came to Arknight and discovered the difference comparing to earth.

Even normal people in Arknight is 3-5 time stronger than normal people on Earth.

Arknight world is basically a post apocalyptic world where human already extincted. And the animal humans are different species molded after the extinct human (Like houseki no Kuni). The MC "doctor" is the only Human left in that world. With the initial mission of bringing everyone of the new human into infection so he could reactivate the mind network of human that abandoned their physical body during the apocalypse back then.

Basically, MC is the biggest villain, the thousands year old monster if not for him losing memory at the start of the game.

[keen vapor]

My honest reaction

[swift mango]

Arknight story is pretty comflexed. The world building on the level of masterpiece like Houseki no Kuni.

[swift mango]

The doctor is actually a kind man. But he was under the mission of saving humanity even if just their sealed up soul.

He adopted a little girl in the war torn era. Grew her up like his daughter. She became a world leader who almost brought peace to the world. But he betrayed her and let her died because war must go on, and new humanity must be extinct with war and crystalized into the mind network for him to be able to finish his mission of saving old human's soul.

His adopted daughter then forgave him on her dying breath and erased his memory so he could be able to start fresh as a kind man he is. Without being burdened by the mission from the old world that only him remembers.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Much more complicated than "hey I'm a kind artificial human with special blood" Nikke's MC.

[keen vapor]

Missilis™

[umbral crown]

[fast rain]

anyone got tips on how to improve my pvp teams?

[gritty ridge]

Does sp close at reset or a bit before?

[swift mango]

The scene as Theresa erased the doctor's memory after battling the assassins and then died. Amiya, doctor next "daughter" is held in her arm.

"Your memory is erased. You soul will be reborn"

"People underestimate your kindness, you desire for victory"

"This is my little revenge. As well as my last gift to you."

"Memory never shape one self. With your most original face go to see the world"

A fan dub version here go watch, shred a tear and see if Arknight worth a play.

https://youtu.be/2Pug0MAlpjQ?si=LUfl1VW1M9LceY-l

[swift mango]

At the reset for 1 day until next season open.

[swift mango]

Start with building PVP units like Rumani, Centi, Emi .etc

Can't improve which doesn't exist.

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

Wait lol i forgot what i am going to say

[gritty ridge]

Ok ill wait til like an hour before to do my attacks

[shell hazel]

asking for more manga recs 😛

[tropic summit]

oi oi...

[tropic summit]

that's a bad sign, you're only what... 20?

[strong hull]

Brain got skill issue ig

I completely forgot what i wanna say for Blood-kun

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

you probably wanted to ask him the secret to success

[shell hazel]

the location of the fountain of youth

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

or perhaps how to unlock immortality

[shell hazel]

or perhaps blue pill or red pill?

[tropic summit]

likely how to time travel

[shell hazel]

there are all sorts of questions 🙂

[umbral crown]

Reset

[tropic summit]

and few answers

[shell hazel]

but what answers we have, are full of questions

[limber rampart]

why my biscuit buff didnt affect on cindy?

[tropic summit]

sir, biscuit is already in the graveyard

she proccs when ally unit reaches a certain HP threshold, with cindy it's even harder if you've to wait for her decoy to be destroyed

she needs to be alive to procc

[shell hazel]

this is the real lesson here, thanks Sensei

[umbral crown]

Biscuit P2 needs much love to survive

[tropic summit]

and much

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Here is the cockroach gun user for you, more like nuke user though.

[tropic summit]

is that W?

haven't touched arknights in a while

[atomic wolf]

hell no bro just go play a REAL AGME

like METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE

[tropic summit]

rules of natureeeeeeee

[swift mango]

Yes, Alter version with her full name, Wisadel, the single most broken unit in AK currently. Just like Rapipi here.

[tropic summit]

well she's cute, i can understand

[swift mango]

Theresa's death was the pre event to build up her past and the her alter event lol.

She had close ties to the doctor and the company from the start all along.

[tropic summit]

le plot twist

[swift mango]

The cockroach officially joined Rhode Island as the doctor's bodyguard with the new flashy nukegun Theresa left for her.

[tropic summit]

all according to keikaku

[spiral onyx]

If you or anyone else is curious, here were my previous CA cooks for myself and budget version for my guild. They've been publicized for 2 CA seasons already so not secrets anymore.

[swift mango]

Everyone know it's where the "Nano nachine son" came from.
But Echo probably won't find any waifu that suit his taste in this game.

[swift mango]

Yeah, saw a few guy copied your left one and just lose.

They don't have those cubes and cs.

[atomic wolf]

blergh

He doesn't want to have fun

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

appreciated sir, who links on your rapu/scar team?

[swift mango]

No way he would have a bricked rapu.

[shell hazel]

I'm assuming links rapu/scar?

[swift mango]

yes, rapu needed to be link so the team able to reach 2rl with feeds in some case.

Keripo don't strike me as someone who would do unlinked Rapu just to get the RNG Rapu stun lol.

also his characters all max core so he would need to invest in those Defender ATK on top of CS.

[shell hazel]

yeah can see how the batteries make a big difference

[swift mango]

Even a whale doesn't have infinite rock lol

[shell hazel]

with the CS, except on cindy team to some degree, it's 2RL anyway

[wise horizon]

What’s a good counter to scarlet/blanc/RH/HelmT/Jackal?

[swift mango]

it's not.

Everyone have CS in high tier CA, so 19% or 9% doesn't make much difference here. They still won't be fast enough into 2.5 vs 3rl situation l

[shell hazel]

adding 17% CS to the batteries on that doesn't seem to change the team to be quicker on 2RL at least

[placid bloom]

it lets you get a few hits in vs 3RL Noah with cs, otherwise you'd get completed blanked

if they were like 2.7RL or something

[shell hazel]

perhaps the deck site is imperfect and the team with CS just wins easier?

[swift mango]

Yeah, quicker on the same tier help. But won't cut you off a worth 0.5 tier so your B3
p3 before them B2 most the time,... ofc some guys don't have any CS and still make it to champ because higher core and good RNG luck lol.

[shell hazel]

true enough, I have only really got CS on Noah/Centi

need more rocks to eat 🙂

[swift mango]

Fpcus to get everyone to 8%, then 11% first. At least get it to base line. No need to care so much about 17-19% it won't do anything much to others who also have 8-11% CS anyway,

unless your opponent have all units at 18-21% CS like Keripo... then you might want 15% CS on all your units to catch his 2rl with 3rl lol.

[shell hazel]

my goal initially is around 15% anyway as I think from a previous post it acted like 17%

so 3 decent CS rolls per battery

[swift mango]

do 11% first. 15% can be for later

[shell hazel]

I'll work on it, I have 1 rock 😦

I can send budget keripo team but mine would certainly be slower in many cases

I don't have s.Anis or Emi ofc, makes it a bit trickier

[swift mango]

not like his budget teams and their copycats ever made it to champ.

Just build it yourself unless you couldn't

and use it as reference if you could learn from it.

[shell hazel]

I have a couple of options of things to send

[placid bloom]

missing Emilia and XAnne

[shell hazel]

yep xanne also

[placid bloom]

no Makima for you either

[swift mango]

you only copy teams and hope for champ if you could be like this guy.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383106058758656142/1383106743067738223/IMG_20250613_221720.jpg?ex=6852dc08&is=68518a88&hm=88e4a66cb7cc7cc13da36d13e1a0ac33d04307b7f6e19a7b1174d415aa5840a2&

[shell hazel]

lol and that

[swift mango]

Otherwise you won't make it.

unless super lucky.

[wise horizon]

Can anyone help me, whats a good counter to scarlet/blanc/RH/HelmT/Jackal?

[swift mango]

because other has same teams and more core than you.

[shell hazel]

this kind of thing would be an option as one of the budget keripo variants, it's clearly slower though

I hope to get LapT sort of ready before CA then she'd replace Graves on P5

Rapi instead of S.Anis adds feed but at least she can actually kill stuff if she gets to burst

[swift mango]

Almost made me laugh. good joke.

[shell hazel]

it's an option doesn't have to be the best one, CA is primarily for messing about in whilst I build my units out to actually win 😄

alt option I had in mind

if I get LapT she'd replace Anchor

[swift mango]

Even the guys copied him 1 for 1 couldn't even win. Not like you would have the cubes, CS and core for Noah teams either. Which is very important for that team to even function.

[shell hazel]

my Noah and Centi do have the CS at least to 2.5RL it apparently

[swift mango]

Noah, Emi, Centi all need 15% CS, LapT, RH 11%, for it to even matter.

Noah need max core, max skill and max tempering to survive p1.

[shell hazel]

do bear in mind I'm not fighting people that are super invested either

at my sync/progress many aren't still

my Noah is SR-5, 5/5/5 skills, core 3

[swift mango]

the high CS need to be on everyone to be matters, if even 1 unit has 0% cs, it's all pointless. They need to be fast enough to avoid 1 volley from SG too, which keripo CS did for him.

Investment doesn't change SG shooting speed.

[shell hazel]

we just need anti shotgun shields

what about my 2nd set?

oh I made that before I added Rumani who I now have

[swift mango]

Same to Siren stun, need everyone to have 11% CS so Noah ignore it

[shell hazel]

this?

with LapT replacing Anchor if I get her doll in time

[swift mango]

Try to include Midhara or Siren to one of your 3-4rl teams. They could win you against scarlet.

Soda could be used uninvested, she could die easier but if she survive she would still stun

[shell hazel]

I can swap RH and Siren positionally

siren can't really fit on 2/3/4 too slow

[swift mango]

You might as well, use copied Keripo teams for fun if you wanted to.

[shell hazel]

soda could go on scarlet team but mine is super weak

[swift mango]

midhara could be included in any biscuit team

[shell hazel]

I wasn't impressed with my midhara sac last time

she didn't die lol

[placid bloom]

well you were trying to proc Ros with it, I think she's better on actual stall because you intend for her to die later anyway

it's just hard to fit her on stall atm

[shell hazel]

so this works, soda on team 1 is not 2RL anymore if I swap out RH

blanc p2 or p3? I think link would be SBS + Siren

[placid bloom]

p3 is a bit better if it's slow Noah or indom mirror since p2 should die to rocket splash, so having p3+4 stay alive for end of indom cleanup can matter

links will die regardless of position

[shell hazel]

makes sense

think those teams are OK, my nero kind of meh also build wise, but I can build her up a bit, hopefully does enough

I kind of want to see the cat noises go off

[keen vapor]

Team 3 I rather cook myself

[shell hazel]

I can promote Helm team to 2.5RL if I get her some CS

[keen vapor]

Moran Nero

[shell hazel]

gotta send it out at least once

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel don't be scared, why you believe Blood

[shell hazel]

soda with scar can work but you need jackal there I think then you don't have jackal for SBS indom try

[keen vapor]

My Nero not build yet

[shell hazel]

mine isn't either really, she is 7/7/4 but no OL and no doll upgrades

I mainly want to build units so I can field a variety of things, good to focus on some but I like having options that are usable 🙂

[swift mango]

Neither does mine.

Not with my bricked Rapu. I rather improve my Viper

[keen vapor]

Why would you allow stun for SBS

[spiral onyx]

Scarlet and Rapunzel. Blanc and XMaiden are defenders, they will naturally have lower atk

[shell hazel]

I suppose siren p1 may work instead? damn siren lol

[swift mango]

If you wanted to, put Jackal there

[spiral onyx]

Yeah, the "Keripo Cook 29" is heavily tuned to my investments. You cannot easily pull it off without the dolls and charge SPD OL lines that I have. You can still copy it and it will still work, just probably not as good as you'd think. The Scarlet 29 budget version should be better for most people.

[keen vapor]

Scarlet 29 ammo?

[swift mango]

But to be frank, you would still lose against 3rl Cindy with siren. Because siren would still stunned you SBS mid burst. Of SBS being lone B3 at p1 and got stunned before she burst it would be much more winnable.

[swift mango]

Scarlet needs at least 30 ammo, now, and would still ignore Siren. Your scarlet is bricked.

Optimal is 30-32.

[keen vapor]

Malogro don't believe him

I'm not bricked

[swift mango]

More if you don't care about siren

[swift mango]

You are : 🧱

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

What do you mean by this comment though?

What did I do to @clear vessel ?

[keen vapor]

He was typing when you where accusing me

Then he stopped

[onyx scaffold]

co-op is more rewarding than arena at this point

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Which rank did you get in Co.op?

Guess you sacrifice some good teamwork boxes there

[shell hazel]

I had similar guessing top 10%

[onyx scaffold]

u can only wipe the shop if u are top 30

[swift mango]

The champ circle still have more flex value.

[shell hazel]

for CA? it's partly why I'm kind of cool with sending whatever on it, no resources change hands really. The arena shop could do with an update

[swift mango]

But I asked if you 10% or top 100.

[onyx scaffold]

Top 46

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Why would you wipe selectors though

[onyx scaffold]

I need gears?

[keen vapor]

That soon?

[onyx scaffold]

I have been in need of gears before AI was added

I have my gear counter on sheet

[keen vapor]

[onyx scaffold]

Will check later

[shell hazel]

I kind of think gear selector is the more valuable as well, that and the doll boxes for now

[umbral belfry]

gimme that

I got enough from top 10% but I'm gonna save my

[shell hazel]

why? we get another co-op soon

they're doing one a week for the collab, so two more, and the subsequent weekly rewards + event doubles means we can buy them each week 🙂

[onyx scaffold]

He already beat the game as CA winner. No need of resources

[swift mango]

@umbral belfry Are you a he now?

[gritty ridge]

Do i win

[onyx scaffold]

huh hime is a she. dang
so I have seen 2 female gamers beating CA

[umbral belfry]

I'm a he

[shell hazel]

he-man

[umbral belfry]

wait was this not obvious? 😭

[gritty ridge]

I do not win

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

I thought mod would feed but no

[swift mango]

I was in the middle of checking your deficit lol... 19%. Not gonna with that

[onyx scaffold]

i thought u were a cute femboy

[umbral belfry]

i know, but all I really have left to buy are those money and exp boxes anyway

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Isn't this kinda free?

I dont think they can burst

Deficit yeah but no b1 other than naga

[umbral belfry]

you're just above the deficit (that and their team is )

[shell hazel]

Tia

[umbral belfry]

okay back to work

[gritty ridge]

Yeah tia

Im fighting for table scraps lmao

I think i lose this

Nvrmind

[swift mango]

They probably bricked and put Liter p1 but not linked lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, liter got killed then naga stunned

C6 is my limit sadly

Btw i thought my team feeds scar

Is it cuz of element?

[shell hazel]

you don't feed scar, you feed jackal linked units

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok

Im close to c4 but my cp team cant burst fast enough to not have crown stunned

C4 and c6 get same rewards at least

[onyx scaffold]

c4 get CA access

[shell hazel]

based on total points not just being c4 of course

[oak gale]

how did i get from ch1 to ch7

[tropic summit]

[vague slate]

I wont see myself in CA until the brackets get created tomorrow right?

[tropic summit]

people learned to run the 2 failsafe teams against you, should be normal behaviour

as i suggested yesterday, aim for these 2 teams as your next step up:

#pvp-arena message

might give them trouble at first

3rd team can be any 3RL or 2.5RL (requires CS%)

[shell hazel]

I want to build "le flex" next 🙂

[tropic summit]

great pick, quite flexible

[gritty ridge]

Wait why did i only get 1200 gems

[oak gale]

correction , 2guys who just intentionally get low to pull me down 💀

[placid bloom]

because you didn't accumulate enough points.

[tropic summit]

ripperoni

[placid bloom]

rank is based on points earned, not position you ended at

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

you earn points per hour based on ur position, retain for example ch1-ch3 for the most part and you're eligible for ch1-ch3 range rewards, viceversa you'll earn only based on the total points accumulated by all the ppl on your ladder

[gritty ridge]

I dislike this

I cannot stay in challenger unless I spend a bunch of gems

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

welcome to pvp

[placid bloom]

well yes, the point is that people who hold their position will rank higher than last minute snipers

[tropic summit]

in this game top positions are not for the weak of heart

as it's a p2p friendly mode in the first place

aim for a position that you can comfortly retain

[shell hazel]

paid vs paid

[oak gale]

c1 agrees to lose to ch3, agrees to lose to ch6 , and pulls me down from ch3 for example , or even do it multiple times idk

anyways
in theory the siren requirement is done or? i didnt rlly get it much

[gritty ridge]

I can only stay d3 on average

[tropic summit]

based on her investiment i see here, seems it will do, she's pretty high up, depends on her atk% OLs

[gritty ridge]

Im horrendously lower cp than most in my brackets

[tropic summit]

siren scarlet trina noir jackal for example could work
or
siren scarlet trina anis/centi/rumani jackal

noir needs to have less atk% than siren obviously

[placid bloom]

you really need to either be extremely ahead in campaign or need to be very lucky to contest challenger usually

[oak gale]

didnt focus on her ol percentages i think but
9% atk
7.5% atk

[gritty ridge]

End of season looks good but mid season looks terrible

[shell hazel]

staying ahead in campaign is really the best tool if you f2p

[tropic summit]

that's gonna be ur main issue then, focus on a position you can retain comfortly

[placid bloom]

I didn't get my last second snipe in, guess I am starting c5 next season

also that guy is about to hit 301 while I am stuck 280, so no CA for me maybe.

[tropic summit]

CP for the most part will dictate a lot of your comfort zone

ppl can easily win attack even on 18%-19% deficit

[shell hazel]

I sleep

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

So basically there was no point sniping for challenger today

[placid bloom]

it gives you a better start for next season

[shell hazel]

only to begin at a higher rank

[gritty ridge]

Cuz I'm just gonna get knocked down to d3-4 once season starts

[placid bloom]

but if you can't hold it means nothing

[tropic summit]

well you earn a better starting position and theoretically could just fight back until they gem

[oak gale]

should be good? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

depends what you running her with

for example my liter still steals link from jackal against a treasured laplace out of pure 4 OL's of atk%

[oak gale]

resiliance cube lvl 12

oh that

[tropic summit]

in your case, as long as siren is 2nd or 1st highest atk% than the other nikke you running in there, you're good to go

just check their total OLs from the blabla app

or test it in shooting range

[swift mango]

Earning from yesterday dispatch

[oak gale]

so i dont need to do anything with siren?

[tropic summit]

depends what you running her with
#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

20 mil off my first 7 lol, I'll get it with 321 I guess

[tropic summit]

upgraded from 0 rocks to 0 rocks with a tad better RNG

oh today i should be getting 0 rocks for sure

yesterday was 6

[shell hazel]

you owe me some Rail

[tropic summit]

let's see if RNG balances out

[shell hazel]

9 rocks for you today lol

[swift mango]

The real upgrade is 0.34 rock a clear to 0.37 rock a clear.

[tropic summit]

here it comes

@shell hazel

perfectly balanced, from 6 to 0

[shell hazel]

classic

[tropic summit]

[warm lynx]

how do i counter noah biscuit emilia rh helm+

[tropic summit]

scarlet siren trina centi jackal will disabled noah p2 timing on 2RL

else 2RL sanis

or 2RL emilia

[oak gale]

ye i know , as i said there are things like my resiliance cube for example which could change things or can help to fit things in , like in the img i sent for example my sanis and scarlet dont have resiliance cube on them bc im not using them , but if they do they surpass siren
so if i go by your screenshot , the flex cant be any burst III that i built but can be something like maybe centi or someone using any block other than resiliance

as for the second requirement lets say (since again , i didnt build anything or anyone stats wise much)
noise first img , noah second

[tropic summit]

ye looks doable depending on what you wanna run as flex, keep in mind it should remain 2RL

scarlet and siren need to be linked

[spiral onyx]

3 budget variants from my guild won Champion R1s actually, just not on server 1 lol

[shell hazel]

Eve this time tomorrow right?

[oak gale]

looks doable , siren and siren might get linked ye, but i could also max my gear on siren
so thats how my team looks then next season?

idk who could be flex other than centi rlly , unless there is a better option

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit blood

I was going for charge speed on Noah

Also ammo ig

[tropic summit]

[oak gale]

i like that the def remained unchanged 💀

[keen vapor]

Locked

[swift mango]

I would think if 29 whales sending a same team 1 guy would bound to win somehow.

@shell hazel send yours there. sure champ.

[oak gale]

dang

[keen vapor]

What to do

[shell hazel]

one of the greatest noah first rolls I had

[keen vapor]

[warm lynx]

thank you

[spiral onyx]

Naw, almost all of Scarlet is PvE focused. Everyone rocking lvl 4 Tempering and Quantum and uninvested Emilias, Morans, Noise, etc

[oak gale]

@swift mango so in theory my priority rn is only building siren more by maxing her out? not rosanna and bay?

[tropic summit]

guess you could run these

can upgrade from noir with bsoda or drakeT but you need to be careful on atk% to not steal siren atk% priority

p.s. just noticed T3 lacks B1, you gonna need rumani instead of centi and centi instead of rumani

noise noah cind helmt centi
blanc sbs drakeT biscuit rumani

[shell hazel]

think people are forgetting that CA is mainly a chance to screw about, like there is no real reward for winning it beyond kudos

so you have a good chance to send whatever and see how it does - not like the winning part really matters that much

[swift mango]

That's for CP pad your campaign? Yeah.

[tropic summit]

CA is the new rookie to me, been for a while already

[shell hazel]

exactly

like one day I do want to win it once but after that? meh 😄

I may even go down the path of just sending new teams each season to see what works

[oak gale]

kinda , but as i said campaign isnt rlly my worries rn , bc i dont think i can take on motherwhale with some cp padding 💀
what i need is some stability in pvp from the italian mafia organizzation

[tropic summit]

well 1st line or 2nd line need to go, you're aiming for CS% but you could also not, i don't run CS% on my noah for example

[swift mango]

That 25 times champ frame looks better than 30 times. Ngl.

[shell hazel]

I don't even use a frame as it is

I don't think I'd use the champ ones either even if I had em

[swift mango]

Yeah, I don't use them just my opinion about how they look like...

[shell hazel]

game would be EOS before I could win it 30 times heh

[swift mango]

If you use Siren in your SpA. Padding her up help your teams. If you don't, it won't help. That's it.

[keen vapor]

How you deal with Siren stun

[oak gale]

if i understand u correctly that the power points or or that big number that gets sorted by power that siren must be top 2 then i guess it will do , but will max my siren just incase bc my bsoda is around same level
bc noir on my acc is a joke i didnt touch her
right?

[tropic summit]

just run a B1 in p1

or deal against it without noah

Bay or 2RL indoms exist

[oak gale]

i am , so ig ill do it , she does help in kraken too anyways

[keen vapor]

Noah taunts and noise is faster

[tropic summit]

bay or 2RL indoms it is then

[shell hazel]

guess I get this one tomorrow

[oak gale]

which means i will postpond bay and rosanna then , might build them after im done getting 24% on my helm

[tropic summit]

can put blanc in safe range p3 or p4 if needed, can run indom target in p2

[sleek root]

Thoughts? 100% crit Emilia nuke?

2RL

[tropic summit]

@swift mango oi this is one of your fellow believers

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

asking the one who actually tried it in CA even

[sleek root]

I'm asking before i invest on TMiranda

[tropic summit]

aye, let's get feedback directly from the source

[swift mango]

But you guys are all whaling right?

[tropic summit]

the answer on my side is not worth it

@pale knoll

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

In CA SG might kill MirandaT.... You need minimum 5% CS on HelmT, 11% on Noah and Emi average 11% in 3 shots ofc... So Noah would ignore Siren stun ....

Dmg will be fine. Unless blocked.

[tropic summit]

but do you actually recommend building le MirandaT?

[swift mango]

Just follow you heart

I'm not responsible if they one shot your Helm and Emi with Rossana

[tropic summit]

[pale knoll]

For sw

[sleek imp]

God please give me a SPA bracket w only 3-4 whales

[tropic summit]

god:

[sleek imp]

Omg hi Railtracer

wait let me change my pfp so you recongize me :blush

[tropic summit]

[sleek imp]

can you cook me some 5 star michiling SPA comp

[tropic summit]

naruhodo...

[sleek imp]

I still burn the kitchen sometime

[swift mango]

Bring wrong team to Kraken > Clear it to lv7 with hardship > got 1 rock, the only rock today.

[sleek imp]

What the RH doing

rapi's B1 slave?

oh yeah I also got Thelm Phase 3, dunno if she can be used as on burst

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

can

[oak gale]

@tropic summit btw there was a team in rookie arena , i asked echo about it and said smthn like sanis , blanc , helm jackal and a rl flex , but didnt work , and i tried teams from my own but i have no idea how to counter it
originally i made it but the guy just copies it because he wins off deficite , any ideas?

[sleek imp]

Let me see if I can cook a stall team for her then

[tropic summit]

this would be great for rosanna debut

[swift mango]

I just spent 10 rocks for nothing again.

[oak gale]

unfortunately no rosanna bc im spen ding my resources on siren now

[tropic summit]

either way echo suggestion is on point against this, there's only 1 taunter and there's 2 attackers, s.anis happy meal

also it's a elec ele weak link

you'd be hitting it quite hard

[oak gale]

he said also vigor cube on helm , but i tried that and it still failed (vigor cube is lvl 5 , resiliance is 12)
soo idk how to counter it
or do u want me to try again

[tropic summit]

your team is on the left, run this and record it

[oak gale]

bc i did hit it 3 times with it , 2 times with vigor and once with resiliance

[tropic summit]

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
s.anis resil
helmtT resil/bastion/vigor
jackal quantum

s.anis must've no ammo OL

also burst lvl 9 minimun

[sleek imp]

@tropic summit This works?

[oak gale]

my sanis is maxed so i dont think that will be an issue
lemme try

[vague slate]

Sure hope I get placed against bots in my CA League

[tropic summit]

not the cindy p1

[sleek imp]

Why is everyone saying not to use Cidny p1

[tropic summit]

T2 below move jackal to p5, also siren with alice and scarlet in there is probably not linked, those 2 attackers will steal link

[sleek imp]

Does she only deserve P3 😭

[sleek imp]

roger

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 enables enemy team to earn 1.75x extra burst gen
cindy in p2 enables enemy team to earn 1.25x extra burst gen
cindy in p3 still enables extra burst gen on enemy emilia
cindy p4 and p5 doesn't give extra burst gen

the vid above is with the 1.75x extra burst gen, actually enables enemy to get 1RL or 1.5RL

[sleek imp]

fric she does steal link, jsut realized siren has more atk than my Scar

[tropic summit]

if siren has more atk% than scarlet that's actually good and bad

good because then she can stay p1

bad because ur scarlet might've rly low atk%

[sleek imp]

[tropic summit]

your problem in that team is running a 2nd attacker or flex that steals siren's link with jackal

just pick something else

[oak gale]

final team looks like

[tropic summit]

looks fine, record and run

[sleek imp]

Does doll give ATK?

My Scar still blue doll s12, that could be th ereason?

[tropic summit]

check OL (no ammo OL on s.anis), burst lvl 9 and resil cube equipped

[swift mango]

I think I can die now.

Good bye friends.

[sleek imp]

[eternal portal]

Can I show thighs on vc

[sleek imp]

You wanna see mine?

[tropic summit]

25% ratio, looks normal

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

and even an actually useful SSR at least, could've been epinel

[sleek imp]

#1353582790582734901 message

[sleek imp]

Epinel

[swift mango]

Wtf, give me Epinel so I have her MLB instead of this Ein bs

[oak gale]

ye i have her ol built as i said , and her burst is maxed @tropic summit

[sleek imp]

Im sorry but am I watching a PPT

[swift mango]

I'm tired. Will retire from Nikke and play Arknight for the next month.

[oak gale]

thats why i dont record or watch it , i just auto

[tropic summit]

see you tomorrow, you're just emotional now

take a break and sleep it out

[swift mango]

I will do daily ofc but I have enough of expecting anything.

[tropic summit]

ok the issue is clear

you're still receiving s2 dmg via invulnerable jackal

because of link, e.g SGs are no good

you're gonna need a DPS that does not proc s2 as often or an indom

your best option which would be SBS might get denied for the most part from biscuit + p1 defender although

second best option might be RH perhaps

[oak gale]

as a powerpoint im happy to annouce that im redhoodless 💀

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ

post ur box

[oak gale]

the rest are unbuilt

[tropic summit]

ironically this is where your rosanna would've shined

[shell hazel]

I was asking AI how many rocks it is it roll 3 good lines depending where you start, it seems to think line 3 is best starting point but it also took me nudging it that direction lol

[tropic summit]

what's RRH ammo OL and ele atk

[shell hazel]

phase 1 being hunting for a good stat on that line, and phase 2 then being rolling the other stats

[oak gale]

sooo i need rosanna built priority?

[tropic summit]

it would help here as a direct counter to jackal and helm

you could attempt the sustain approach aswell here

[oak gale]

not good , shes not invested

[shell hazel]

best dps in the game = no investment

[tropic summit]

temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit
resil/bastion on SBS
vigor on helmT
vigor on rapu

you're going for 3RL revive

gonna facetank helmT nuke, she'll kill your helmt or SBS based on atk%, then they'll revive via rapunzel

record it

[oak gale]

my best unit on my acc is quency , cinderella and helm 💀 and maybe grave or siren

[tropic summit]

post matchup with CP so we can check if you're within deficit

[oak gale]

ppt style?

[tropic summit]

w/e that allows me to see what happens

vid of before sucked b4lls but at least gave me a clue

[oak gale]

the amount of vigor cubes is concerning to say the least , considering that its one of my lowest lvl cubes

like holy balls-

[tropic summit]

3 vigor just enough

[oak gale]

it is all i have 💀

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mona-f2pbtw-genshin-impact-gif-19375013

[oak gale]

i cant find him

[tropic summit]

hit someone else and climb up first

[oak gale]

thats my last attempt bc i climbed like 3 before we did the hit , my guy unloaded 30 tokens the past 2 days alone and sent me to 10th in one day

[tropic summit]

even more reason to hit them asap and bring them back down to gem even harder

[oak gale]

lemme see if im right or i hav ean extra

[tropic summit]

you've all the time, just try tomorrow

it's rookie, practice ground

[oak gale]

no like , it makes me feel like i offended them personally , and whats the entire reason that me and em (plus naizi) are in conflicts , bc i wanted to secure ch1-2 💀 THEY ARENT IN MY BRACKET ANYMORE- my guy

[tropic summit]

[clear vessel]

I was about to rant about Abathur, but I got sidetracked

[oak gale]

wakey wakey @tropic summit

[clear vessel]

But if Blood wants to give me candy in a white van, I believe him.

[oak gale]

this right?

its a miracle 💀

ppt for the finals revision of python @tropic summit

[misty finch]

Are any of the pvp supports worth doll sr15?

[shell hazel]

for batteries I don't think so really, at least not before campaign units are done and more dps like Scarlet.
after that I think Noah/Noise/Rosanna/Moran could be good to SR-15 as they tank/take hits for the team (case of Rosanna she is dps and having a better doll increases her power)

I'll probably SR-15 all of my core pvp units eventually, we get more doll materials now so should be a bit easier, but campaign team comes first generally

[copper creek]

this depends on how much investment you wish to put on PVP.
if you are aiming for PVE/PVX progression, I would advise against this because we are getting new season of treasures soon

[crystal flicker]

You want to have 30-32 ammo for her passive

[signal hull]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676483

Aren't they once a year?

[copper creek]

twice - every 6 months

[signal hull]

Well now I sure am happy I've saved most of my orange/purple doll mats from that Drake event...

[shell hazel]

you get more, in time, new solo raids etc, it's not easy to get all the dolls and things but it's easier than it was

[signal hull]

Super-Ultra-OP-broken-meta-Maxwell incoming? Yeah boi.

[crystal flicker]

New treasure = New pass

[shell hazel]

hopefully they repeat that so you get materials for at least one of them

[crystal flicker]

30 w/o wingman, I'm set

Seems like ammo also got rounded

[onyx scaffold]

Always has been

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio I assume you got rank 4

[wild patio]

rank 7 but got 2700 gems

HSY whaled his way to lvl up to powercrept me

but dont worry

I need 2 more lvls to lvl 461

https://tenor.com/view/daima-dragon-ball-daima-super-saiyan-4-goku-ssj4-goku-daima-ssj4-goku-gif-14260957569799213659

[loud sonnet]

Screenshot?

[onyx scaffold]

it means u got top 3 and got sniped to 7 bruh

[wild patio]

wait aa otw to work

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Who told you that

Wym Matis is intended to be treasured by the entire playerbase

[keen vapor]

you're on same range as me

[wild patio]

top 4

idk why people so obsessed with CA

[onyx scaffold]

ah true. i got a brainfart

[wild patio]

when the rewards r mid

[onyx scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-gif-6092921275523841286

joke aside. gacha game is all about flexing. if u talk about rewards, even raids have mid rewards too
but people still do raid

[wild patio]

at least raids have gems

but CA?

[wild patio]

[onyx scaffold]

gems? yeah u spend 30k gems to invest in raid units then earn 3k gems back

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[loud sonnet]

Either you got rank 6-4

[onyx scaffold]

neither is me. im top 5 SpA

[loud sonnet]

Since I got 5

[onyx scaffold]

i have done 0 fight this spa season

those people are 65 sync highers

[vague slate]

and and and self development :' )

[loud sonnet]

More like competitive players

[onyx scaffold]

for me. i wanna do CA because i have nothing else to do.

i cannot get higher solo raid rank. i need to skip banners often.

[loud sonnet]

Too lazy to do raids tbh

Just participate don't care about the score

[crystal flicker]

I can see the future

[keen vapor]

What if rewards improve when out of beta

[crystal flicker]

Server wide ranking isn't mid

Though it's lacking since there's no gems, mats, or exclusive skin

[jagged mesa]

guys im assembling a 2rl indom rookie defense team, currently jackal - sbs - blanc - ??? - t helm

what's the best option at p4 you can think of

im currently thinking noah for battery + taunt on p1 p2 for siren stun, though it doesnt really make a difference

[placid bloom]

you don't really want taunt p4 since it's not linked and it's gonna take full damage instead of split damage

last thing you'd want is redirected indom

[jagged mesa]

thats true, does it matter for 2rl though?

[placid bloom]

it does

[jagged mesa]

fair point

so just standard rl battery with no taunt i guess?

[placid bloom]

shared damage is pretty low, that's why SBS 3rd slash on p4 can redirect

it depends on what everyone else is running

if everyone is on Mermaid, you will already be fed to 2RL naturally

[jagged mesa]

i wouldnt really know because this is a defense team for rookie

going blind against their best team of 5

[placid bloom]

most people's defense is same as their attacker in rookie probably

just check the top 5

[jagged mesa]

well im specifically going to war against one guy who is focus targeting me

[placid bloom]

if that's your competition

[jagged mesa]

hes the only guy i lose to, but we both beat eachother when attacking

but he's really been attacking me so its war

hmm does 2.5rl indom beat 2rl scarlet nukes

[placid bloom]

no

unless they feed you to 2RL

[jagged mesa]

i guess ill play it safe and stick a battery there for 2rl

if he breaks my defense ill revise

i suppose a defender RL would be a better choice to lessen the chances of an errant indom?

[jagged mesa]

also sorry could you expand on this

what does shared damage have to do with sbs 3rd slash targeting

that's based on lowest def target right?

[placid bloom]

kind of, but any RL works. Even Biscuit should work tbh, you're not naturally 2RL but Scar Trina should feed you to 2RL. Having extra characters alive for free is useful.

yeah it's lowest Def but usually the batteries are the last to get OL'd and dolled so they have the highest chance to get hit

[jagged mesa]

i WAS considering biscuit but i think she introduces more holes for indom misdirects

[placid bloom]

unless your Blanc is also un-OL'd and dolled

[jagged mesa]

theyre all OL and SR5

my current noah in p4 would not get sbs lowest def targeting

but noah WOULD have taunt active on p1 and p2

[placid bloom]

I don't think I've ever seen Jackal drop below 50% pre-burst

damage share slows it down a lot

but you can play it safe if you want

[jagged mesa]

actually noah p4 is just a bad idea given that it gives them 3-target RL splash if they have RL on p1 and p2 right

i kinda put her there temporarily because she's my highest cp defender RL

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burn-cash-shoveling-gif-5348644

[placid bloom]

I usually don't care as much when it comes to 2RL teams since you're bursting at the same time anyway, same reason people run Noah Noise p1 p2. The extra burst gen doesn't matter if you're already planning for it. But I still don't think taunt with indom is correct

[jagged mesa]

fair

if they break through this ill replace noah with a standard 2rl battery

at a cp loss

[copper creek]

ultimately u can try

if it works it works

[jagged mesa]

yeah

just wondering if there were any stand-out options

[copper creek]

it doesnt have to be theoretically sensible, it just has to work against the guy you're up against

[umbral crown]

cuz is an end game content

[placid bloom]

well they could just mirror your team and swap p4 for someone slower so your indom wears off first, Blanc mirror tends to be the easiest to beat

[copper creek]

im not sure its endgame, more that theres freaking nothing else to do

[jagged mesa]

thats true, but theyve been able to break all my other defenses currently so i might as well try

it depends onthem ahving investments too

[copper creek]

anyway everything in rookie is breakable with a pve box

[umbral crown]

when laplace pass?

[copper creek]

u can just do whatever if ur opponent knows what theyre doing it'll fall anyway

[jagged mesa]

fingers crossed they dont figure it out 💀

[placid bloom]

maybe they are reading this entire conversation

[jagged mesa]

i tried poking around in here to see if here's in here

no response yet 🤷

in any case its war

last rookie season, even though nobody else could beat me, we ended up 5xing each other every single day and mutually dragging each other down to like 7-8th place

[placid bloom]

I don't think I make the next CA, my SPA rival gonna hit lv301 spike my defense team just get CP diffed and it's so much effort to camp reset

[jagged mesa]

its ok this account of mine has all pvp units minus cindy, but is also going to get synchro gapped soon

because its stuck at mc with no crown no ein no cindy

im cooked

all my hopes lie on my other account pulling noah

[copper creek]

just enjoy it

[jagged mesa]

i am, im shifting investments to pvp

[copper creek]

my war last season ended up in me and my whale both sinking 12k+ gems each

[jagged mesa]

we'll see how long it keeps up before i get synchro gapped 💀

[copper creek]

yes in one spa season lol

[jagged mesa]

that's wild, no thanks

[crystal flicker]

"me and my whale"

[placid bloom]

I wouldn't spend gems just to get CA spot, I'd rather just keep the gems and stay 5th

[copper creek]

oh we did it for ego

we're set in 1/2 no matter what lol

[crystal flicker]

I didn't really spend gems for pvp

[umbral crown]

do not camp reset cuz you need to stay long time in your spot

[copper creek]

imagine at one point i had 4 pages of those lol

[crystal flicker]

but theres 1 time I rage quit and spend 60K gems to standard banner

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

bet most of u dont even know that screen can have multiple pages

[placid bloom]

I mean camping reset so that I can have 2 attack to defend their 2 attack unless they gem after, then they can just have the spot

[umbral crown]

to get some SSRs

you can gem back, its just 100 gems

[placid bloom]

but he stopped gemming recently cuz he couldn't break my def

[umbral crown]

kuwon op

[placid bloom]

until yesterday, he came back with like 50k more CP

[keen vapor]

overload biscuit @clear vessel

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/some-days-are-better-than-other-christy-anna-faris-mom-its-okay-gif-19766995

[umbral crown]

OL Ein

[umbral crown]

that reminds me when i beat my whale, he came after a week with helm and laplaceT C7 ready to take C1

[keen vapor]

I did :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

avr

[keen vapor]

I don't want to waste mobile data :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

its not a waste

a waste is not showin your Ein

[jagged mesa]

who are the CA players from your bracket

i still make it to CA consistently on my other character so id probably recognize some of them

[umbral crown]

@keen vaporcooking your next CA teams?

[placid bloom]

only Shiro and Phoric actually make it out of groups, the other 2 only have the participation frame but they've both been getting knocked out at top 64/32 every season so far

[jagged mesa]

oof

(im not doing any better) but oof

[placid bloom]

Phoric should be primarily PvE though, he only recently started working on PvP units

even his SPA team is just 1.3m CP pad for the most part

with a few scattered PvP units mixed in

[jagged mesa]

at ~300 synchro?

[placid bloom]

I think he just hit 301

[jagged mesa]

how are you not punking him

[placid bloom]

it's not gonna hold so no point

I'm just in an awkward spot atm because the 5th place guy can still CP diff me but he can't swing over anyone else in top 4, so he only swings at me

so no point trying to swing higher because I have to defend against both whoever I attacked and the 5th place guy

if I pull Noah I can probably wall him for good though

but that's a pretty big if

[jagged mesa]

relatable...

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

if I can get an MG doll for Soda maybe I can raise her CP high enough to be usable, then I'll be annoying enough to attack that maybe he stops

[umbral crown]

you will get a selector during this SR and some random dolls

pray and you might get your doll

[fiery parcel]

Gdi. I missed CA

5th rank

[umbral crown]

there will be always a next time

[loud sonnet]

Me too

[umbral crown]

hsy for CA?

[loud sonnet]

Drax

[umbral crown]

imma watch him be rank 3 in league

junye, 4 pics max

[loud sonnet]

Or ye maybe hsy not sure who stayed longer in c4

[void loom]

oof 😭

[umbral crown]

if its about your nikkes, do it in horizontal mode

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio goodluck on CA

[umbral crown]

[void loom]

ohh thanks!

hello, i need help with team building for SP arena.. any recommendations? these are my nikkes, thank you!

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
SBS/Blanc/Red Hood/DrakeT/Jackal
Noah/Biscuit/Cinderella/Siren/HelmT
Crown/Alice/Rapipi/Noir/Naga

[vague slate]

by battle they mean the entire champion arena right

[quick lake]

yepp

[wild patio]

nah, I just want passive income 2700 gems every 2 weeks.thats the only investment I wanna have since I cant afford to have any irl investments income

[umbral crown]

yes

[umbral crown]

[wise horizon]

I need help with SP arena. I’m getting battered…..

[crystal flicker]

You know there's no perfect defense, except cp pad

[quick lake]

If anyone has tests/vids for this setup, do share ur findings

Based on CA stats, seems inferior to Quiry

[crystal flicker]

Mana is bad

She has basic of an attacker, which lowest hp and def

[regal garden]

Got Biscuit from social points on day refresh

no idea where to put her

[crystal flicker]

Either Cindy or Blanc comp

[regal garden]

don't have both Cindy and Blanc

[crystal flicker]

Any team using defender P1

[regal garden]

Moran

[crystal flicker]

She'll make that defender immune up to 10secs

[regal garden]

😳

?

is there a reason to prefer her to Rouge and OL everything

[crystal flicker]

wdym

If you're comparing Biscuit and Rouge, they have different role

[regal garden]

Yes, I'm literally asking if it's better to invest in pve unit than in pvp unit

[quick lake]

well, this is pvp chat. U invest if u wanna pvp ig

[regal garden]

Still struggling

[quick lake]

For what its worth, bi-weekly SPA gives more gems than solo raid

and CA frames are nicer than SR frames

[covert lintel]

Not enough time to sr15 rosanna due to luck issue

[quick lake]

[regal garden]

shit happens bro

[quick lake]

Swipe for doll kits

[crystal flicker]

Noir to boost

[covert lintel]

Ok i'll set this up to replenish my luck

[crystal flicker]

You know I'm not talking about luck

Noir passive is pretty big

[covert lintel]

That S1 atk?

[quick lake]

yeah passive atk up

[covert lintel]

but i'm using noir in 2rl SG

Ig i need to build maiden too for next CA so i have more SG variation

[crystal flicker]

You see the difference

Rosa without Noir and with Noir

[clear vessel]

If there's anything left over after SR investments

[keen vapor]

[oblique ridge]

I just remembered that CA is starting soon

Lack of interest

Did no research for almost 2 weeks

Do I cram now

[crystal flicker]

Just copy Keripo

[restive willow]

Does Rosanna P1 with Jackal link lose concealment?

Actually that's a stupid question. Why put rosanna p1, to give opponent more burst gen lol

[quick lake]

CA is deadge

[quick lake]

Rosanna in P1/P2 doesnt make her lose concealment

[shell hazel]

guessing splash damage means she can lose the concealment bonus?

[quick lake]

If she is linked with Jackal, her conceal will not be removed by dmg/splash

One interesting interaction

[shell hazel]

oh, that sounds like a strange mix lol

[quick lake]

yeahhhh

[oblique ridge]

Perma conceal Rosanna until Jackal/Scarlet dies?

[quick lake]

yep!

[oblique ridge]

That’s pretty fancy

[quick lake]

So u could do Scar Rosanna for double feed

[umbral crown]

If this was that easy

[signal hull]

Is there anywhere I can see Keripo's setup?

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message

[signal hull]

Bleh. Emilia. Of course...

[shell hazel]

and S.anis lol

[signal hull]

I have S.Anis, weak one tho, but not Emilia.
Limited and seasonal units should be excluded from CA!

[crystal flicker]

We can use Raven instead of Emilia

[shell hazel]

the cope is real but here's hoping 🙂

[umbral crown]

[signal hull]

I watched Keripo's video and probably I'm wrong, but it feels to me like he wins purely by overpowering opponents before they can even do anything.
And most of his teams make no sense to me, but what do I know, I've never made it past 32.

Especially his Scarlet team, team 2. Like... WHY?!

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

very RNGy on scarlet s2 procc rate, i doubt it's gonna be consistent

if anything starting to winning is a good sign, you'll want temperance perhaps also on SBS from the looks of it

giving her extra atk% would also help deleting scarlet faster

the easist solution here is to just get ur rosanna to 7/7/7 or 7/10/10

would break link and deny this whole headache of getting s2'ed to death while hitting invulnerable jackal

for further optimization can also run noah biscuit rapu sbs helm instead (slight order change), that will let rapunzel tank over SBS and helmt, might allow SBS to live longer to wipe scarlet pre death instead of leaving it to rapu and helmt

[crystal flicker]

He built all his teams to counter Siren

[oak gale]

so all im getting from that is that after i max my siren's gear i should move to rosanna instead of bay
and you said i needed like 40% atk or smthn?/ which should be easy considering that its not a 1% *unlike helm that needs 4 1% probability to get 24% charge speed which i only have one of-

[signal hull]

Oh yeah you most definitely want a nice strong Rosanna, even I can tell you that.
Love me some Rosanna.

[crystal flicker]

Idk why my Rosa always met with Tempering user in CA

[oak gale]

on my list will build her soon , need time ofc bc the daily resources

[sleek root]

Wow Really?! Thats good to know. I always assume she will loose it.

[kind bone]

can someone help me with teams for SP Arena? these are my Nikkes o:

[swift mango]

Really?

I thought she only doesn't lose concealed by taking linked dmg.

You mean if she is linked I could put her in p2 and she won't lose her concealment?

@worthy knoll Is this real?

@coarse lake is this real?

@raven plover is this real?

[swift mango]

Then don't waste 10000 on hitting.

@loud sonnet Getting back CA from his ass.

[wild patio]

[raven plover]

you dont know? yes

scar counter doesnt remove it either

[swift mango]

I don't know she would be immune to RL in P2 if she is linked yeah.

[raven plover]

just test on rookie

[swift mango]

But you just said yes.

[raven plover]

:kekwdym: if you have doubt

[swift mango]

Not like it would change anything so I would just take your word for it. I could test if you want.

[raven plover]

already curious about her concealment since her release

[loud sonnet]

Tomorrow were gonna find out if Raven is going to be a pvp meta

[swift mango]

Tested. Looks real enough

[raven plover]

with that stacked dot surely shes meta

[swift mango]

Dot isn't meta in arena in the first place.

[keen vapor]

It has been on JP

[regal garden]

Trying to figure out what's dot

[keen vapor]

dot = DOT = Damage Over Time

Poison/burns in videogames

[regal garden]

thanks

[lime night]

would the same team with scarlet BS instead and noise instead of moran work?

[swift mango]

If you are talking about Mihara, she is useful in Arena because her dot could hit all. "Hit all" is the important thing, not the dot.

[keen vapor]

Was talking about Summer Sakura

They're weird

[swift mango]

She is okay to hit someone like RH. But she is no meta. Some guy may use her for sometime but they would soon realized she is mid. And that's where she is now.

Maybe it's because DoT is bugged and it would sometime kill the enemy in one shot like Mihara DoT. But it's even more RNG than crit on Scarlet counter to kill Emi.

[keen vapor]

well, people tend to not use biscuit and jackal on the same teams

But.... Yes?

Again the most well known Noah jackal team uses Rapunzel instead but....

[keen vapor]

JP didn't realize soon enough

[swift mango]

Read my 2nd paragraph.

I guess that small 35% dot on everyone could be bugged and translate into one shotting everyone sometime. JPN defending on that bug and Blanc to make Sakura top meta.

[lime night]

guess i could use Noah biscuit BS scarlet rapunzel jackal? should work

[keen vapor]

No, not like that jackal loses purpose in that positioning

[swift mango]

It's just like Delta bug. Mihara dot one shot bug. JPN server are very knowledgeable about them I guess. Just English community are full of members who gatekeeping those.

[keen vapor]

Look

Jackal link will waste one of Biscuit's immunities if they can target anything that's not Noah

That's why they aren't used on the same team

[umbral crown]

Raven with dot?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[umbral crown]

Ssakura moment?

[keen vapor]

Perhaps

[umbral crown]

Ssakura dot is nice in some.way

Kinda 200k per dot

Last time i used her

[quick lake]

I've been doing P1/2 Rosanna since I found out

[swift mango]

P1 Rossana is basically P1 Cindy.

Good luck with that

[swift mango]

The way I see it. Raven has 3 chance to be Arena relevant.

1- If her burst skill werr delayed like Ein so she could use the full burst bonuses.

2- If her burst gen were like XMaiden, in that case she could be off burst dps with gen like clip SG, similar to XMaiden or LapT.

3- If her DoT bugged so often that she would one shot each enemy with one of her charge attack. In that case she would be top meta for a short time before they fix her.

[signal hull]

In short, she'll be mostly useless.

[swift mango]

If both 1+2 were to happened then she should be at least SS tier

[quick lake]

stop coping, let her rest

Raven dedge pvp unit

[swift mango]

Idk, no way they would give us a 490% base dmg wipe in 2025 and doesn't make it like Ein, right?

[keen vapor]

I get it, she won't

[umbral belfry]

no she's gonna be good guys trust

[tropic summit]

[wise horizon]

how would you counter Scarlet/Little Mermaid/Trina/Centi/Jackal?
Would Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/LaplaceT/Noise work against it?

[umbral belfry]

yes if Noah has more cs than noise and/or has 11 cs to burst before stun

if not then

[umbral belfry]

2 rl moran bay helm