pvp-arena

[oak gale]

buddy they are , waiting for the eact moment i close the game , i cant even get a single token outside of me logging of like they have some system that tracks it or smthn idk , immidiately demotes me from ch2 to ch4 to ch6 , that is if i dont get demoted from ch1 to ch3 to ch6 directly, and do as u may , there is infinite tokens
all of this for 300 gems

also this gangsta looking fried liver is what rail wanted me to build? @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

Yes
You can choose to not do it though

Last client is still not happy about it

Oh my bad, same person

[shell hazel]

I remembered you were here not that long ago Rail lol

[keen vapor]

But yes, that's the right Rosanna

We don't use Summer Rosanna (yet)

[oak gale]

also i have the loser ca frame , buut i dont have the winner ca frame because some "unnamed individual" decided to just instead of answering when i sent the lineups , and instead was like why dont u use a website and show me the rl , and im like i cant right , my cpu is through the roof and i cant get myself to do it in that lag it will take like 40 mins
but noo mister unnamed kept saying send it send it nothing else sooo just guessed it, and had the funny idea of saying go to other channels like questions or team building bc the idea that i have alot of sr15 on units that im using in tribal tower is so torturous for him that , i dont see whats wrong with having a doll and building phantom , since surprise surprise i didnt have helm treasure or anyone to do the dps in elysion tower

[oak gale]

i skipped her when i started the game and instead went for mlc summer anis

[keen vapor]

Yes, I'm making my whale suffer like you do

I'm sending him to C3 cuz I'm a coward tho

[keen vapor]

Right choice

[oak gale]

gotta do what i gotta do to avoid being pulled lower

[swift mango]

Maybe they were F2P all along and just you misunderstood them

[keen vapor]

I say focusing on CP padding soda is more worth in current meta

[keen vapor]

He's level 500 he big whale

[oak gale]

bunny soda?

[keen vapor]

Normal one

[swift mango]

[oak gale]

ye about that..
i dont have her yet 💀

[keen vapor]

Well, bunny is used as battery and has usage on raid you can choose that too

[keen vapor]

Wishlist till MLB

[oak gale]

bunny is already built , i dont see more worth in building her bc i didnt build the shotgun team yet

[keen vapor]

HE'S SO WHALE HOW HE'S SO WHALE IF HE SPEAKS SPANISH

[swift mango]

Spain is rather richer than Mexico

[keen vapor]

Blood

[oak gale]

hes so whale , he is behind u in chapters in the campaign yet has more levels and more raptures cores to increase his units

[quick lake]

pvp investment is just... whether u enjoy pvp tbh

[keen vapor]

Blood

Mexicans speaks Spanish
Not Mexican

[oak gale]

3000 gems is 3000 gems

[keen vapor]

He's actually ahead of me

[wicked horizon]

Damn.
I've beat him in the past, but I've forgotten how to...

Noise taunts the stun.

[keen vapor]

He simply don't care on building actual PVP teams

But he does push hard campaign

[swift mango]

But Spain should speak Spanish right???

[oak gale]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Yan simp

Don't wishlist Aria

[keen vapor]

Then, swap biscuit and siren positions?

[swift mango]

I have wish list Elegg since I started but she only MLB, help!

[oak gale]

oh no im caught red handed

also one copy of aria should be enough ,** a woman is still a woman**

exscept crow , she looks ugly asf

[keen vapor]

[oak gale]

im a simple man with simple needs , i need thighs , and butt

[keen vapor]

I didn't got Naga :pepeh: YOU help me

[wicked horizon]

Right, derp.
Problem was, Biscuit was dying to their RLs.
But actually, if Noah gets stunned, it should be fine.

I was trying with SAnis earlier and they got through Noah before SAnis could kill them, because Biscuit died.

[keen vapor]

Invest biscuit

[wicked horizon]

4/4/6 SR 5 doll with Vigor cube. 😔
OL 0 equipment.

[keen vapor]

Tempering cube

And maybe level 5 on skill 2

[wicked horizon]

I can probably do 7/7/7 on whoever at this point tbf.

[keen vapor]

I'm not crazy

[wicked horizon]

No, but why would you say that?

[keen vapor]

I prefer to invest on budget

yet I x/10/10 Moran

[swift mango]

My Moran is 71010 now help?!

[keen vapor]

Moran will save us

[lunar pawn]

Moran treasure when

[keen vapor]

I rather ask for Nero treasure/Sakura trea- oh right, she got an alt

[lunar pawn]

Bay treasure would be nice too

Maker her gen up to par with a clip rl or something

[keen vapor]

+50% cover HP at the start of the battle

So we can even put her on P1

And blocks Cinderella more consistent

[lunar pawn]

Make whole team invisible for 5s at the start of the fight

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

oh no... better brace yourself for the fun times

that took half an afternoon to clear

[keen vapor]

Just skip

[tropic summit]

with the stars aligning

god smiling

and santa gifting me a win

[oak gale]

next i build rosanna?

[clear folio]

(edit nvm i dont trust the sender ) global code, won from reddit (im NA) USE AT UR OWN RISK btw

[tropic summit]

if your campaign team is gud, your kraken team is gud, your towers are gud and you wanna ~~waste ~~invest sum resources on pvp, sounds good

remember that she's expensive, 7/10/10 SR15 atk 30-40%, crit rate as icing on the cake

[oak gale]

what do i need for her , bc im ch6 rn 💀

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

guess ppl in your bracket finally learned to google or copy stuff

there's currently 2 teams in SParena that trivialize most defenses anyway

if your objective is to get a possibly working def for a while, work on linked siren and noise taunt priority

[shell hazel]

haha I got a way of doing it but might actually need 321 this time 😛

the trick is || just skip ||

[oak gale]

yeeee idk buut at this point i should build these remaining pvp fellas so im done

[shell hazel]

nah I can do it legit just need more power

[tropic summit]

build these 2 and you might live in ch3-ch4

T1 requirement:

siren jackal linked (1st or 2nd highest atk)
must hit 2RL with le flex (xmaiden, laplace or clip RL, avoid SGs feed)

T2 requirement:

noise taunt priority (noah must've 4%CS+ than noise)

[shell hazel]

the real trick is || copy @quartz prawn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQsDHXD0JY ||

[oak gale]

so i need cs on noah too
oh boy

[shell hazel]

not easy even so tbh, i'm low powered still, need to eat my spinach

[tropic summit]

time to get the regular x0 rocks

[shell hazel]

as is tradition

[tropic summit]

ameno

[shell hazel]

overclock reset

[tropic summit]

goddness, that's gonna cost me 5 extra minutes today

[shell hazel]

just skip dinner

[tropic summit]

already ate

digesting while killing raptures

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nyaruhodo-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-anime-gif-11663505576349852877

[shell hazel]

OK I actually did get 0 rocks 😦

[tropic summit]

oh fk... i got 6

tomorrow 0 rocks or at worse 0 rocks for 2 days in a row incoming

[shell hazel]

ok just gimme a couple of the 6 and I'll be happy

you clearly got my rocks by mistake 😦

[keen vapor]

Ñom ñom ñom

[oak gale]

@keen vapor yyou owe me a chime (used vigor cube)

[keen vapor]

Mine could never

[keen vapor]

Don't use quick battle, check results

[tropic summit]

now that'd be a nice match to run debut rosanna

[oak gale]

all alive except biscut

[shell hazel]

Rail I need to roll ele off Ros to add atk 😦

[tropic summit]

you don't really need much ele atk on her tho

30-40% is probably enough

[tropic summit]

ye 1st line ele atk can go

easy to reroll too

[shell hazel]

on chest?

[tropic summit]

aim for atk or crit on 2nd and 3rd lines

i wouldn't touch 1st piece until later

chest can fix 1st line, 3rd and 4th piece are gonna need some rerolling

start with chest then legs, finally arms then head

[shell hazel]

don't really have rocks, I think OK ish rolls for now?

[tropic summit]

ye you won't 1hitko SR15 dolled RH/laplace but will kill probably everything else

helmt and emilia are 1hitko with those stats for example

unless moran or noise happen

SR15 SBS might also live

(unless crit)

scarlet and jackal teams in general you'll likely 1hitko

will also do well in SG snowball teams

[shell hazel]

yeah that's OK, not many invested in Ros much at my sync yet, so I can bide my time a bit 🙂

I probably need to fix scarlet more, needs proper atk rolls, and helmT needs some CS etc

Ros is actually better than both in a lot of ways with current stats lol

[shell hazel]

scarlet... don't laugh (too much)

[tropic summit]

hmm, pve scarlet

[keen vapor]

No attack

[shell hazel]

work in progress, I'll have to prioritise and my campaign teams needed some rolls also 🙂

HelmT is actually a good target in general as I use her in both

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

you guys see the new stuff we can get in the bone store?

[tropic summit]

extra income source for credits is welcome

[shell hazel]

I actually had to open some credit boxes recently lol

t9m selector very welcome as well, 60 per week with 200 for t9m selector for any manufacturer you want

[tropic summit]

still RNG

[shell hazel]

no I don't think it is?

unless the one you get is RNG?

[tropic summit]

you get to actually select them?

[shell hazel]

it looks like it...

[tropic summit]

missed opportunity to scam, i'm surprised

[shell hazel]

I'm not 100% as I don't have any of it yet, but I guess we'll get them pretty quick atm with double on event for sale + extra co-op

[tropic summit]

hmm to clear the shop you need 25k

getting twice 30% would be enough

[placid bloom]

weekly reset though and normally co-op only comes once every 2 weeks when it's not an event, so you can't completely clear out shop 2 weeks in a row

[shell hazel]

guess prio doll mats + t9m (if not RNG)

and the rest can go to gear xp + credits to some degree, and eventually you can forget the t9m somewhat

[tropic summit]

ppl in late synchs are starving for credits over t9m

although i can see ppl on earlier synchs starving for t9m instead

[shell hazel]

yeah, I still lack some gear

[tropic summit]

works both ways i guess

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

if I have drakeT, noise, trina, and biscuit at burst 7, who should I prio to get to 10? 😮

[low pecan]

rookie team?

[umbral belfry]

give us the bones NOWWWW

[low pecan]

I just put my campaign team there: Alice, Blanc, Liter, rrh, Grave

[tropic summit]

the bone POV

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

make a Scarlet comp with what you have, either Trina or Blanc

[tropic summit]

scarlet alice trina centi siren

wishlist jackal

[low pecan]

eyy that's what I was thinking not really confident with myself making a team so...

[low pecan]

thanksss

[shell hazel]

would be suitably annoying but Jackal is better than Rumani here

[tropic summit]

scarlet will deter SGs/ARs/MGs, you've backup B3 if she dies pre 3RL

will work until you get jackal, while keeping you high on CP

[shell hazel]

you need quantums though, 1-2 of them at least 😄

[tropic summit]

at your synch CP still plays a bigger part

[shell hazel]

yeah it can do indeed

liter adds feed but looks better built

[shell hazel]

if Siren is low CP could run this though liter does feed

general PVE advice is to build Siren to replace Liter in most things for your campaign team

I run this most of the time sometimes adding Cindy instead of RH

[low pecan]

aight, i think i can max level siren's equip so i'll do just that

[shell hazel]

for PVE blanc needs rouge or noir to work, neither are great options, you may be better to run Grave until you get Crown

[fast jetty]

any help on dealing with this team comp? i dont have scarlet or emi. i do have everyone they have

[gritty ridge]

I should burst first, right?

Idk if siren will stun their Noah is why im worried

I did, Noah ate their entire burst

Should I wait til close to reset to do my sp attacks?

I wanna try and end season in diamond 1 or challenger

[sleek imp]

Help, are those people scripting? just right as I fight this guy he fights back in SPA?

Like, can you even get notifaction that you got attacked? I refuse to believe he was just staring at his PC await for me to attack back

[placid bloom]

you probably just bumped into him during his active time

[sleek imp]

oh true

this guy doesnt touch grass

[placid bloom]

shoulda waited a few hours

well some people camp too hard

[sleek imp]

nvm hes cheating

The exact same time again

Dude he hit me 1 hour ago

[placid bloom]

nah you never attack back less than 1 min after getting knocked down

they will not log off that fast

not even I do that

[sleek imp]

no 4 hour, why would he be watching SPA if he cant push any higher?

[sleek imp]

bruh

[placid bloom]

it's defending spot

[umbral belfry]

hurry sopa you gotta make it to ca

[placid bloom]

top 3 guarantee check SPA at minimum once every 2 hours, speaking from personal experience

except when I go sleep

at least my def can hold now so I don't have to camp anymore

[keen vapor]

What's a cofa

[umbral belfry]

wait, isn't raven tomorrow?

[placid bloom]

Wednesday

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-clenches-fist-of-rage-rat-clench-fist-rage-gif-20880451

[loud sonnet]

I'm gonna actively participate to coop from now on

[crystal flicker]

Feels bad using him for ammo test lol

[glad glade]

Tfw your opponent has a nonsensical team but it works because of a slight CP gap and greater Scarlet S2 investment

[sleek imp]

possible 3 SPA team rn?

Actually Im more curious, can Helm be used as Onburst in pvp?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH cook this comp

[sleek imp]

would dis work?

[thin perch]

What are some noise team comps for SP arena that isn’t the cookie cutter Cindy team?

[keen vapor]

It's finally Friday

[keen vapor]

Ikr

[placid bloom]

but it's not Friday

[keen vapor]

32 is ok

[loud sonnet]

It's Tuesday

[keen vapor]

Did you check linked list on pinned FAQ

[junior mesa]

Cookie Cutter SPA Team Setup
Scar Trina xMaiden Laplace.T Jackal (2RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Helm.T Noise (2RL)
Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit Emilia Rumani (3RL)

Is this still up to date?

[thin perch]

Does the list work on mobile?

[keen vapor]

Cookie cutter term is popular today I see

[keen vapor]

Wym

Everything works on mobile

[thin perch]

Oh nvm I see the list you were talking about yes I’ve saved that list

[keen vapor]

You might want to get B1 unit on P1 more often now

[thin perch]

But the only team I see Noise on is Cindy’s team

[junior mesa]

what does that even mean? lol

[keen vapor]

@quick lake you didn't put OG Summer Anis team

Or my special Noise Bay team

[thin perch]

Put em here I wanna save em

[keen vapor]

You don't know your bursts?

[thin perch]

I’ve got a notes app with all my pvp notes lol

[junior mesa]

p1 is placement 1?

[thin perch]

I’ve yet to see any bay or Nero SP defense teams

[keen vapor]

Yeh ~~in my mind is position, but placement sounds more accurate, my stupid brain has failed me again ~~

No one corrected me for over a year

@vapid lake where's my infinite overclock title

[keen vapor]

Noise Helm Bay Laplace Emilia

Is just standard Moran Bay, but with Noise

Moran Bay more stable prob

But Moran might be used on other teams depending on circumstances

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-that-down-gif-27686706

[thin perch]

What would be the full team for Moran Bay?

Also how does Moran bay work?

[keen vapor]

Carbon copy

Replace the B1 and you get it

[thin perch]

Ah

[keen vapor]

Noise increases max HP a ton for the entire team and gives healing for full burst

Moran taunts everyone while she increases her own HP and gives team damage reduction for full burst

Pretty similar don't you think

[thin perch]

I see

I have not built bay at all yet so I’ll have to start that

[keen vapor]

Bay is 444

Well, you might want her with SR5 doll at least but that's easy

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-memes-is-it-easy-do-i-like-it-no-but-do-i-do-it-gif-5875668018201069215

[keen vapor]

Is easy after a solo raid

[keen vapor]

@crystal flicker but it really is it?

[keen vapor]

What the heck

[crystal flicker]

I haven't roll 32 ammo, saving some rocks for Raven in case she's PvP able

[keen vapor]

WHAT'S A COFA

[crystal flicker]

But 33 is when Scarlet start her reload animation

so 32 should be inside already

[sleek imp]

Thanks pap Der

[sleek imp]

WHAT'S A KISAMA

[sleek imp]

Wont i lose alot of cp using noir?

Would alice work

[crystal flicker]

Sure but you'll be 3RL

Unless against non-RL

Alternatively you can use Drake, and replace 3rd team with cp option

[keen vapor]

I only know Spanish equivalent

[sleek imp]

Okay pap

[glad glade]

Doesn’t work

[vapid lake]

Idk go get it

[keen vapor]

My dignity

[vapid lake]

It right here next to my profile

[dim escarp]

Moran SR15 with 3 blue box

[vapid lake]

U know ever since rakuen showed here that the very expensive moran nero team gets killed by 5 shotguns i suddenly dont feel like investing in that team anymore good thing i didnt even start yet

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

It seems that they have 25% cs to catch up with Scarlet

[keen vapor]

You know, most SG teams are composed of 3 SGs

Not to mention every single one of them has Rosanna, so you'll never encounter 5 SGs team

[raven plover]

:dorowutdahel:

[lunar pawn]

what pos does attacking siren need to be to get taunted by defending noah in p5?

[raven plover]

1 and 2?

auto atk taunt only 1 and 2

[quick lake]

Only 1 SAnis team, under Blanc teams

[raven plover]

tho maybe if they have noah p2 and siren p3, not sure if defending noah 2nd hit catch the stun?

[lunar pawn]

mm fair

either way, kudos to the ones who talked about it before when I was asking about a SPA attack

ended up winning all 3 battles comfortably

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

Anyone know how long it takes for Nikke to go to the cover state?

I know it's < 0.2 sec

or is it

Siren need 100 frames to cast her stun

31AR = 93 < x < 34AR =102

[swift mango]

Just do a Noah+Biscuit team.

[swift mango]

It's just scar counter's counter's counter. So ended up with tons of feeds.

[glad glade]

25% CS
Holy moly, I must have mindbroken him too much

[glad glade]

Noah biscuit doesn’t work either unfortunately.

[swift mango]

Nah it's ain't it. Bro. Just the feed problem

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+HelmT+RH+Centi

The easy way to win. Unless heavily deficit.

[glad glade]

Its in SPA, Helm+RH is used in a different comp. I’ll post the teams later once I finish my shift

[crystal flicker]

They either lucky from Scar counter or that

[glad glade]

The rookie is used more as a testing zone. He just copied his 3rd team into rookie

[swift mango]

Then use a different comp altogether.

[crystal flicker]

coz that comp is 75% in 2RL, 86% at 2.5 with 17% Jackal

[swift mango]

Don't bet on anyone having 25% CS. And even with that it's not enough normally. His scar just wasn't able to wipe XMaiden.

[crystal flicker]

with 10% feed from Scar comp, they still need like ~3% ish to reach FB under 2.5

[swift mango]

10%? The scar team of his is at least 30 feed that translate to 15% on average.

[swift mango]

The web doesn't count counter Gen bro. 1 counter from Scarlet is 0.4%. I guess you didn't read my feed counting comment a month ago.

With 10 bullet feed to jackal (quantum) and Scarlet. It's 3.71+0.4*3=4.91% on average. Even more if they lucky.

[swift mango]

So don't give me this calculator if you don't know the actual math.

[glad glade]

@swift mango @crystal flicker comps involved

Assume all of opponent’s units are invested. That moran and rosa especially are guaranteed to be invested

[crystal flicker]

That's why I said they're lucky, coz they need to burst b4 2.39RL

[glad glade]

Also, those aren’t my teams used to fight against him. Its for someone else

[swift mango]

You don't need helmT on Cindy comp

[glad glade]

Indom Helm vs Rosa, and Noah for Scarlet (though I can also replace Rapu with Siren as well)

[swift mango]

I remember I told you how to deal with this guy before. You just doesn't give a shit about my advise. So good bye.

[glad glade]

No? It was Railtracer who helped me with dealing with this comp. And i just told you those 2RL teams aren’t for him. Its used for someone else and I didn’t have the time to change them yet

[swift mango]

Okay it looked a bit different from the last time I guess.

You probably ignore my comment because someone else teams already worked. But he changed it a bit and not anymore.

[swift mango]

This def is definitely competent though. Good to see it around.

[glad glade]

I checked the logs, and I don’t see any comments from you responding to mine in the past, SPA or Rookie. Maybe you misremember someone or it could be CA betting help?

[glad glade]

Yeah. He knows his way around. Probably would rank high on CA if I don’t shaft him lol

[swift mango]

Maybe you could show or link to your box so I know what you have?

[glad glade]

Sure, one moment. Thanks for your help man

[swift mango]

With the 15 nikke you showed it's not enough.

[crystal flicker]

How the hell these ppl be 361 and >500K cp

[swift mango]

Invest

[crystal flicker]

Even my Scarlet comp only 420K

[glad glade]

Here you go. Everything afterwards is not in sync and isn’t useful

[swift mango]

You are 361 and only 420k, that's some big investment issue... Not padding enough... Just ask @umbral crown

[glad glade]

He’s a serious whale too. Two weeks ago I swear to God he was 340ish while I was in the high 350s

[glad glade]

Rip the screenshots came weird. Hang on

[glad glade]

Wait when you said box you mean a spreadsheet of my unit investment or a screenshot of who I have?

[crystal flicker]

Screenshot

[glad glade]

Ok good, thanks. Just to be sure

[swift mango]

I was trying to 3/3 it but look like I got no luck with that.

Could you tell me if Ein in linked in this comp? Try a mock battle then pause to check.

[crystal flicker]

@keen vapor 32 Scarlet

[keen vapor]

@swift mango

[crystal flicker]

Cover animation is ~0.1s

[crystal flicker]

Maybe same delay as skill delay, 0.117s

[keen vapor]

@worthy knoll look

[glad glade]

Just to be sure, noah team is for the rosa comp and ein team is for the scar comp correct?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

750k scar comp 385

[glad glade]

Anyways, if I move around the cubes a little then Ein will be linked. However, Helm won’t be due to RH having the higher atk stat, unless if the latter straight up has no cubes at all. At least that’s my hypothesis anyways. I’ll send you a video of the battle

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[crystal flicker]

Should I SR15 batteries?

[umbral crown]

I would

Just centi and rumanji missing, not gonna SR15 normal anis

[glad glade]

Oh shoot, I forgot I had quick battle on and fought, but I ended up winning lol. He’ll strike again either today or tomorrow morning, so should I send you the video when I strike him back again?

[swift mango]

I could switch it up for 3/3 but you will need to be able to tank a Rossanna shot with your Attacker.

[swift mango]

You could hit the bottom left button for the replay.

[glad glade]

Holy moly, thats the first time I’ve heard of this. Still, I exited out of the battle, so its too late. Sorry…

[swift mango]

It's okay. No need to @ me for replay later. Unless you lost.

[glad glade]

Thank you so much. I haven’t forgotten the uncountable times you’ve helped me out. You’re the best

[swift mango]

It's okay bro. Don't need to use such gaudy words.

[umbral crown]

.

[umbral crown]

When the isekai gonna get me

[swift mango]

Maybe walk over a red light playing Nikke and you will be reincarnated as a rapture.

[umbral crown]

As crystal chambrer

Free gems is nice but no action is not

[swift mango]

Maybe I would become mother whale.

[umbral crown]

116 levels to meet MW again

[swift mango]

Are you still stuck at mother whale?

[umbral crown]

Indeed

Si

[swift mango]

Crown+RH+Siren+HelmT+LapT

Are you blue with this?

[worthy knoll]

???

[swift mango]

Could you show me your box sort by power?

[umbral crown]

Probably nope

[umbral crown]

check ping in TB

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956169630400016384/1383501662047436800/NIKKE_2025-06-14-13-40-07.jpg?ex=6851a8d4&is=68505754&hm=04822cc4420db3807d89806737d7d66e1d9400eb0914ae5d6175e622492cafd9&

Just how high is your little CP?

[umbral crown]

little cp?

[swift mango]

Liter

[umbral crown]

125

[swift mango]

Liter+Crown+Ein+Scar+helmT

Is this blue?

[umbral crown]

will check

[umbral crown]

si

[swift mango]

Could try auto with the team

[umbral crown]

auto and hope for the best

[swift mango]

How did it go?

[umbral crown]

liter died with scar at some point

[keen vapor]

32 ammo Scarlet can cover from stun

[worthy knoll]

Yeah? Isn't that known already?

[keen vapor]

Not the exact number

[worthy knoll]

Its either 32 or 33 the cut off point

I already made mine 30 ammo, if its not a Blanc Scar

Any ammo doesn't matter much

Its Nuke you kill and win or nuke they tank you lose

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I block nuke then can't tank

Tfw 60 level diff

[quick lake]

pvp account

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Okay move scar out too.

How about

Blanc+RH+Moran+HelmT+Noah?

[umbral crown]

thats blue for sure

[swift mango]

You need to manual Blanc to target the middle of the boss when RH burst.

Try to break the core on this middle or the part around it. 2 RH burst and you win.

[umbral crown]

lets move to strategy

[swift mango]

Burst with Moran when the first wave of suicide mobs appeared then Noah HelmT heal up I guess.

[swift mango]

Did you equip Liter with tempering?

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

33 isn't working. @crystal flicker already tested. 31 barely works. 32 I don't think so but you could try.

[swift mango]

Equip them all with Tempering

[crystal flicker]

#pvp-arena message
This is 32 bruh

[swift mango]

Nice it works

[crystal flicker]

Should I gave Tempering to Scarlet or Wingman

[umbral crown]

wigman gives ammo

[crystal flicker]

I decide to run Scarlet Jackal, so survivability shouldn't be issue w/o Tempering

[crystal flicker]

Ye, I reach 32 with lv 4 wingman

w/o that I still 28

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

More Tempering for my stall

and 30 ammo gives Scarlet 22% x 3 atk

[swift mango]

BECOMMANDERNOW

[keen vapor]

:0

[swift mango]

Use this same team but you time Ein and Scarlet wipe to when the suicide bombers appeared. And burst with HelmT when HP is low.

Or wait to 401. Everyone with tempering ofc.

[crystal flicker]

Thursday is Raven yes?

[keen vapor]

WE'RE RICH

[keen vapor]

Wednesday for me

In two resets

[crystal flicker]

yeh Thursday

I live in the future

[umbral crown]

501 it is

Waiting fot 401 will not make a differencd since im 385

[umbral crown]

Not like you gonna pull her uwu

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

It's big difference ofc.

You would be able to auto it with

Crown+Liter(or siren if you built her)+RH+Ein+HelmT

[quick lake]

are u gonna skip raven

[keen vapor]

Depends

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I'm skipping Eve already

[quick lake]

🧱

[crystal flicker]

Eve skipper

[umbral crown]

I was thinking the same with 381 boost and here i am

[keen vapor]

Oi!

[umbral crown]

SB skip

[quick lake]

Raven is gonna be SBS tier probably

[keen vapor]

Failing 50/50 twice made me reconsider my decisions

[quick lake]

There is no 50/50

[umbral crown]

Whats the 50/50

[keen vapor]

2% out of 4%?

[swift mango]

Or just control RH to shot core in the middle I guess.

And burst with helmT to heal instead of Ein.

[umbral crown]

50 pulls?

[umbral crown]

im.not built to play manual uwu

[swift mango]

SR15 101010 Rapipi it is. Super auto friendly

You could auto at 30% deficit with Rapipi in your team.

No need to build siren.

Because Rapipi can be burst 1.

[swift mango]

Maybe Not SR15, just max her skill.

[quick lake]

Cant convince rosy to build pvE units

[swift mango]

Well, just built 2-3 units and he would be able to clear everything.

[swift mango]

Could you try to auto the stage, record and post the video?

We would know if you could clear it or not just be looking at the video.

But just wait to 401 I guess.

Top 10% barely able to buy all the good team work and doll mats. Good luck to those below it...

The hoard for co.op this week.

[loud sonnet]

You didn't take the manu ones?

[quick lake]

I got less doll mats than you

[ruby iris]

Which are anchorIM's pvp teams?

[quick lake]

I too, did not choose manu

[swift mango]

Why should I?

The resource give me the edge. Not the gear

[quick lake]

She doesnt really have a dedicated pvp team imo.
Maybe Moran Anchor THelm flex flex

[umbral belfry]

I went with manu bc i still gotta gear up a few more units

[ruby iris]

Oh okok thx

[quick lake]

I’ve tested a few maid anchor teams, but all were pretty meh

[loud sonnet]

I have a tons of gear fodder so I go for manu and doll mats

[quick lake]

Give me a new B3 healer and my life is urs SU

[umbral belfry]

||sora?||

[copper creek]

her kit leaked?

[quick lake]

That would be nice. She’s so pretty

[umbral belfry]

i dunno

[quick lake]

nope, nothing yet

[loud sonnet]

Who is that?

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/сора-касугано-gif-1767787229197661567

[umbral belfry]

[copper creek]

mate saw the shot of her against the vending machine and folded

[quick lake]

All her scenes look good

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

Airforce nikke squad

[copper creek]

wait who was the joker again

and wait doesnt she only have like one scene lol

[quick lake]

joker? idk

there was like 3 wallpaper-ish scenes

Including the vending machine

[swift mango]

Try +5 all of them

[swift mango]

Could use noise instead

[copper creek]

there are also some people who use manchor as a cindy buffer

im not convinced that's super ideal but depending on your box/use case...

[swift mango]

Done.

Let's see if my viper could tank Scarlet's counters to 2rl.

[covert lintel]

She won't

[swift mango]

Just the counters.

[swift mango]

I have 1 DEF line 11 as well.
Should I roll for more DEF lines?

[covert lintel]

My viper stat is like this and she still died atking scar

[swift mango]

P3?

[covert lintel]

P3-P5
I never put her in P1/P2

[swift mango]

Maybe your team isn't 2rl.

[swift mango]

Is she with tempering? And their scar MLB or core+7?

[covert lintel]

In my bracket, their scars are above MLB

[swift mango]

Bricked Scarlet has its merit y'know....

It's like he built his team to counter Rossanna and lose to everything else.

[covert lintel]

That's not bricked scar
His brain bricked for putting scar in p3

[swift mango]

His Rapu and Biscuit linked. So his scar took no dmg from SG before Rosa nuke her.

Mamy drake survived because so... Could put Viper there to die though. So 2 sacc and enough to nuke scar.

[swift mango]

Barely did it because Noah didn't reduce Drake AtK.

[covert lintel]

Phase 2 viper?
I hope i can revert my phase 3 viper

[swift mango]

I got to phase 3, 8, 13 before phase 5, 10, 15 you know.

Almost full pity.

Let's goooo mihara

Stand proud bro your SBS is stronk.

[covert lintel]

I'm talking about this

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Stand proud, you are not Pvper but solo raider instead.

[covert lintel]

No way i get called that
Sometime i skipped solo raid and still get 700gems

[regal garden]

Bro how 💀

is there any advantage defensive team gets?

ah, I have different defensive team. Still 🗿

[swift mango]

27.7% deficit. That's how.

[regal garden]

How did he lose

[swift mango]

He lose, not you?

[regal garden]

as you can see, win is on my side

successful defense battle

[swift mango]

Okay wrong math, it's 26% deficit not 27.7%. Still, I guess it's because early game so lower HP and your burst dmg was high enough to life steal and kill his team.

[regal garden]

Or did he upgrade himself within 7 hours

[swift mango]

You mean he hit you and lose? It's normal, he could just hit you with lower CP team and lose.

For example, I don't hit people with my DEF team. I hit people with my lower CP team to test team.

_
My DEF team is 790k and I hit 500k people with 600k team and lose all the times.

[regal garden]

Is the game even trying to place players of the same week? Or it places people who entered the game month before me?

otherwise I can't get how they broke the wall already. It's not the nikke spare bodies problem, but battle data/core dust problem. Do they WAIT FASTER?

I have

+from cases

[swift mango]

Should be you were inactive, not building event tries using gem, open boxes before breaking wall and stuck there too long, not clear enough campaign hard... etc. The starting line of same Rookie should be around within one week of each others. They probably just whale or you probably just brick,

[regal garden]

And that's halfway point to get 5 characters to lvl 200

[regal garden]

I'm ahead of others on my mini-server. Can't be the problem!

[crystal flicker]

Same week

[regal garden]

I use every opportunity as f2p

[crystal flicker]

I left the game for a month and still rocking top 3 SP every season

[swift mango]

You could buy 3000m Battle data (not box) with credit before you get to lv220.

later on, battle data become redundant but early on you might lack it most

[crystal flicker]

He just got 160 wall for too long

and campaign wall too

[swift mango]

Your SpA probably bricked

[crystal flicker]

Why you always doubt me

[regal garden]

too long... I started the game on Little Mermaid's event

[swift mango]

1 month is just too much.

unless you whale it back

[regal garden]

And I already have all the tools to become stronger

[crystal flicker]

`#pvp-arena message

[regal garden]

it really seems like they're waiting faster than me

[regal garden]

or pour a money river in this furnace

[swift mango]

unless you are whale you SpA is full of bricked.

[crystal flicker]

I did have 30 - 40 sync gap though

I'll whale when I get a job

[swift mango]

with the rank 1? or with the rank 10?

[crystal flicker]

top 5 I guess

[swift mango]

You are 20 level below 3-4-5 but still C2? Maybe your bracket isn't bricked but just doesn't care about Arena.

[swift mango]

I broke wall at 6 weeks in without even using the anniversary free mlb.

[crystal flicker]

Probably
C1 literally just cp pad

[regal garden]

And I made 110 pulls on this event to get 1 SSR bitсh named eve

was very lucky at the very beginning, but then it went off

[swift mango]

I did 162 for EVE

Maybe you long pass the period of beginner luck protection.

[strong hull]

I got her at 50

[regal garden]

Also, why is that "bitсh" banned on nikke if the game uses it in one of Quentin Tarantino dialogs

[swift mango]

exactly average

[regal garden]

On old acc got her within 10 pulls...

[swift mango]

guess you need to make new account until one getting beginner luck protection since you were out of it long ago. just like me

[crystal flicker]

Just do your dailies and don't think too much about it

[regal garden]

yeah

[strong hull]

Tbh

Im care more about Raven

[crystal flicker]

or mald like Tessa

[regal garden]

But I can't get rid of thinking about them waiting faster than me

[swift mango]

I care about neither but still wasted 162.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-money-rain-boss-lady-boss-gif-5906500656361287837

here is how you wait faster

[crystal flicker]

One thing is, the moment you pull, you should commit till MLB

otherwise you lose your pull & chance to break the wall

[swift mango]

yeah, but if you saved 300 and used it all for 1 copy what could you do?

[crystal flicker]

That happened to me

500 no rate up

He has 73K gems tho

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cash-fortress-snipers-eye-money-cold-hard-cash-lionsgate-gif-25657951

just print more

[regal garden]

You see, I need units themselves the most, as I need to build enough teams for solo/union raids

I'm sure my stubborn pulling will win me everything but not a full LB character

[crystal flicker]

You ain't getting high score with low sync

Just break the wall first

[swift mango]

if you don't break wall then no solo, union raid for u.

[regal garden]

I realized it on old acc when I pulled for Mihara. I got her max LB with free pulls only. But inbetween these pulls, I pulled her with tickets and gems absurdly a lot

[crystal flicker]

Why do you think I spent hundreds for Ein

[regal garden]

I better keep my nerves with me

74K gems I have can vaporize on 1 event without hesitation

You see, I have everything calculated in advance and a timer ticking. Timer is my battle data. When I reach total of 960KK, I will pull the wish list

I need 1 copy of her. of Naga or Liter or Alice since they're in the event

So it's strange they already have these 960KK out of nowhere

as they must have the same timer I have

[crystal flicker]

Whats your close to MLB

[regal garden]

wdym

what exact characters?

[crystal flicker]

How far you from breaking the wall

[regal garden]

1 spare body away

whether it be Naga, Liter, Alice or Bay - does not matter

[crystal flicker]

[regal garden]

[swift mango]

then good luck

[regal garden]

Finished my cocoa with kreatine, off to gym

[regal garden]

thank you

[hexed nexus]

Is this really the best 2RL Scarlet team atm?

What about Helm (Treasure) and Laplace (Treasure)? Thought they're pretty broken for PvP?

[strong hull]

Helm Mostly go with Noah Cinderella team

If you want to run helm on that team just replace centi

[crystal flicker]

where you got that

[hexed nexus]

Prydwen

[crystal flicker]

link

Their PvP guide is outdated, so I'm surprised

[hexed nexus]

Is there a reason to use Centi over Helm(T) in Rookie Arena?

[quick lake]

They recently updated their pvp teams i think

[strong hull]

If you run in rookie then helm a way to go instead of centi

Since it only 1 team right

[hexed nexus]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/scarlet

[quick lake]

Just more CP THelm vs Centi

[crystal flicker]

No wonder, their PvP guide still outdated though

Also this the best Scarlet 2RL

[hexed nexus]

Oh...both Prydwen & nikke.gg aren't good resources for PvP stuff?

[strong hull]

Nothing is the best tbh

[quick lake]

There’s no good sites for pvp team building

[crystal flicker]

The basics are ok if you want to dive to pvp

[quick lake]

This chat is probably the best place to ask

[crystal flicker]

the comp just outdated

[hexed nexus]

Uh...Why Soda over RH or even Litter? Is it solely because of her Stun?

[quick lake]

Yep. Her stuns allows u to bypass 2RL Noah

which is huge

[spiral onyx]

From my testing, Scarlet Blanc Jackal + 2 batteries is the best Scarlet comp

[quick lake]

2RL indom scar hmmm. Needs many expensive atk% ammo% cr%

[hexed nexus]

Btw does Element damage amplifier stat even useful in PVP? Regular Scarlet build usually has 4x ATK & 4x Elemental Damage yea?

[crystal flicker]

yes

[quick lake]

Most of pvp units are electric. So iron nikkes like to have ele% on them

[covert lintel]

No

[spiral onyx]

Something like this would probably be the best Scarlet setup

[atomic wolf]

this gets countered by noah 2/2.5rl

[atomic wolf]

in champion arena, people opt for this instead

or even siren, anything that stuns p1 is now considerably dangerous

it disables a majority of meta team

[shell hazel]

if you can 2RL that with feed without burning Helm I think it's better, Helm is expensive for this team

for rookie I guess it doesn't matter 🙂

SPA/CA I think it's too costly

[spiral onyx]

This just tells me that people are bad at team building if they're still putting critical units in P1

It's been, what, 3 CAs already since Siren was introduced? Everyone should have already adapted their teams to be Siren-proof by now

Or even just simply copy any of my 5 teams, all of which are Siren-proof (with sufficient investment)

[shell hazel]

I'm going to try budget variants of your teams this CA Keripo, it will be glorious

question about your rapu, does she link in the Scarlet team?

[regal garden]

When maiden comes

[shell hazel]

christmas re-run maybe, or later in the year perhaps? glad I MLB her when I did 🙂

[crystal flicker]

They gonna rerun her this year with XGuillo

I skip her though, not a fan of the design

[swift mango]

Well, with just 1 buff, the many 2.5RL stalls with Moran, Noise as b1 could just face tank it and heal back.

[swift mango]

Sometime just use standard p1 and 1/5 die to siren is fine, it's rng after all.

Many time you built to counter Siren and ended up weak to SG.

[regal garden]

Why that is a known fact, while SAnis is no idea

[crystal flicker]

SAnis already rerun last year

[regal garden]

What

[crystal flicker]

She's old unit yeah

[regal garden]

I started playing on old acc when she came out

But I did not think it had rerun already

This is deadly

[swift mango]

I remembered 2 season ago, I bring my teams that 5/5 counter Siren but lose to a Scarlet wipe siren anyway. Because of scarlet.

Teams that counter SBS but never meet SBS at all.

[regal garden]

This is why I'm waiting for any of Scarlets

I don't care SBS or just S, but I'm waiting... patiently... seeing others overtake me

And I also have almost full gear set to overload for them

Everything except boots

[signal hull]

The difference is kinda huge...

[regal garden]

They both will be useful

That's what I'm sure of

[shy halo]

bros, can I send here my nikkes so u can help me build good arena teams? IDK what im doing

[regal garden]

I think they can help sure thing

[regal garden]

...but nobody came...

[cobalt pine]

would this be the channel to ask for SP team help? i tried to cook my own teams but id like to have ppl tear em down to give me new ideas

[shy halo]

I am downloading the game on PC so I can

get a proper screenshot

[crystal flicker]

yes

[cobalt pine]

my current setup, focused on speed with the usual B2 placements. Need Trina to replace Centi whom will replace ViperT. Missing a couple quantums which will bump all my teams to 2RL with a bit of shuffling of batteries. Happy to be torn a new one to get better

my current line up and missing nikkes

[crystal flicker]

Quick question, what's your Scarlet ammo line

[misty finch]

Any recs for beating this def? I’ve lost a bunch of times already

[cobalt pine]

145%

rolls r pretty garbage imo otherwise

[shell hazel]

you can switch mobile mode to landscape no need for PC version

[shy halo]

hey all, plz help with my PVP teams I have no idea what to do. This is my whole roster:

I can also send my current PVP teams if needed

[robust lodge]

I may also need help with setting up my SP Arena teams for both offense and defense. The first 2 rows are all pretty much maxed out and built.

[shy halo]

i am missing some key units like Jackal and Centi

I can get them from nikke choosers tho, if needed

[crystal flicker]

Can use SAnis if you have 18% cs in Centi or Anis

[shell hazel]

choosers plural? jackal is probably the most important one for b1

missing cindy also 😦

SR anis can work as budget Centi just hard to get CP on her without investing a bit

[shy halo]

I have hm... 1 chooser from 2nd anni, and I also have a spare body chooser

[shell hazel]

spare body only helps with extra copies not the original unit

[shy halo]

ahh ok, so 1 chooser. I am over the 160 wall so no need to keep the chooser

[shell hazel]

yeah, I'd use on jackal tbh

she's too important for pvp, centi has alt options (she's great still ofc)

[shy halo]

They are both in my wishlist ofc, but since I finished the bonus pulls from standard I stopped doing daily standard...

So I rarely get wishlist pulls anymore

[shell hazel]

no harm to secure a jackal unless you need selector for something pve wise

[shy halo]

I think I am OK for PVE is you see the roster. ..

[shell hazel]

in your shoes I'd just get Jackal

[shy halo]

Sure, been thinking it myself. So if I need to make 1 best team for rookie arena and 2 other teams for the 3team arena

What would you suggest ?

let me show you what I got now (likely garbage)

[copper creek]

wait missing cindy ?

[shy halo]

yea bro. I am missing noah and cindy also modernia and RH 😢

started at 2nd anni

so this is my team 1

team 2

team 3

[shell hazel]

2nd anni was cindy though wasn't it? I started then also 🙂

[shy halo]

Well, I started at SBS rerun + RRH banner

[shell hazel]

oh ny got it

[shy halo]

I think that was the 2nd anni not sure

[shell hazel]

nah 2nd anni was cindy, was november ish

[shy halo]

yea i missed it 😢 but not complaining I have been lucky so far

[shell hazel]

yeah you'll get em eventually, am not really cooking full teams atm tbh, sure someone will chime in with options for you 🙂

[shy halo]

hehe ok thanks for taking the time anyway

[shell hazel]

get jackal with selector still worth it

btw familiarise yourself with https://nikke-deck.web.app/

you can add units here (the list at the bottom is roughly ordered by burst gen potential descending)

[shy halo]

o wow does this tool tell me stuff about nikke synergy ?

[shell hazel]

you can see the RL speed of your teams at least

[shy halo]

what is RL speed ?

reload ?

[shell hazel]

1 RL = roughly 1 second. 3RL is a standard goal, 2RL or 2.5RL is faster/better in some cases

[shy halo]

ok so RL is imortant for pvp eh

[shell hazel]

it's rocket launcher travel lol, kind of a silly way of measuring it

just consider 3RL = about 3 seconds

[shy halo]

HAHAHAHA ok

[shell hazel]

it's not RL units, which confused me initially

I was like 3RL = 3 RL units? nope, it's burst gen speed

build out your scarlet then you can run a Scarlet indom def or similar for rookie

[crystal flicker]

What's your Scarlet ammo line

[shy halo]

do i use trina with scarlet ?

[shell hazel]

she needs SR-15 eventually and 10/7/10 skills

[shy halo]

I got 10 7 10 but I havent upped her doll yet

[shell hazel]

a trina comp, can play with positions a bit

[shy halo]

i am missing the ice nikke too

[shell hazel]

centi can work instead

oh yeah

[shy halo]

i wish I had centi cos there's like a massive skin inbound

[shell hazel]

hmmm you can use a clip SG type

[shy halo]

which Id like to own but no point unless i can get the nikke herself

[shell hazel]

lapT

[shy halo]

yeaaa LapT is one of my faves

[shell hazel]

this would function

got to be wary of jackal link though

jackal links dmg share with 2 highest atk units (in game after OL) - best way to test is to run a mock battle with the team in AI

then you can inspect the buffs and see who has the jumpin jack flash buffs or w/e it's called

siren + lapT could steal it. it's why sometimes you want a low atk battery like centi or xmaiden there, but failing all else SR anis 😄

[shy halo]

damn I guess my acc is borked for pvp. I have to wait to get more nikkes

But I could grab Jack and build this

So I can at least pwn noobs in rookie

[shell hazel]

check the link like I said I suspect less built scarlet won't get it

and you ideally want link on scarlet

jackal link with herself + 2 others, and you want linked units being hit as it gives you burst gen

[shy halo]

she willget it at 10-7-10 and trina around... But no OL gear

[shell hazel]

check the jackal link trust me

this won't switch on trina buff as I understand it

just run the comp in mock battle and pause it / look at the buffs, best way to see who has it

you can expand buffs on pause menu on each unit, jackal herself will have the buff, two others will as well on battle start

[crystal flicker]

I don't think whale should be Trinaless

[shy halo]

trina is based but needs a skin

[shell hazel]

her skin is no skin

I'm getting the centi skin can't be skipped btw, they got me lol

[shy halo]

me too. also likely throwing yellow tickets at chic ocean rerun

if available

[cobalt pine]

sorry was away for a bit, who would sanis replace? emi?

[crystal flicker]

Do you have 18% cs tho

[cobalt pine]

probably not, thats a high amount to roll

[shell hazel]

you'll get a centi eventually, plus you get some tickets and stuff on the pass, still worth

[cobalt pine]

interestin usage of centi and biscuit but how would that work assumin ppl hav nukes?

[shy halo]

we'll see. i dont like passes. so far I only like turbo charged kickass gacha skins like siren and scarlet

[shell hazel]

I had to get the Moran one

[shy halo]

you did well, its good. I am just cheap mf

[crystal flicker]

It's usually for Blanc instead of Centi, but you need Blanc for Scarlet since you're Trinaless

[shell hazel]

my Moran is SR-5 once I get a doll for LapT I may bump her up to SR-15 next

as she's tanking on the front lines

[shy halo]

moran is great for pvp

[shell hazel]

high invest/niche usage I think

[shy halo]

I recently got OG rosanna too which is one of my all time faves

I wish I could use them both together in a team thou IDK if its meta

[shell hazel]

it's not no, ros needs someone to die for her skill

and moran is kind of the opposite, hard to kill

[shy halo]

yea Moran is always last to die

[crystal flicker]

It'll be better if you have 18% cs on Trina/Anis, and ofc if you're not in deficit

[misty finch]

Ty 🙏

[misty finch]

Didn’t see before sorry but I think 0 or 1

[cobalt pine]

didnt think not havin trina would screw me this hard, would of rolled for her if i had known. Thank you for everything else tho

[crystal flicker]

It's just if your ammo line under 60%, you can put Scarlet P1 and replace Rapu with ClipSG for better gen or RH if you have 18% CS on Trina/Anis

[misty finch]

How does ammo affect the team comp 🤔

[copper creek]

0ammo scarlet avoids siren stun.

[high stream]

Should I just invest into all these units to have them available for teambuilding in pvp?

[quick lake]

U can look at the pvp teams in Pins. Those are your core units

pvp units are pretty cheap initially. 4/4/4 4OL

[high stream]

My issue with these teams is that they all use the same units .. but you need 3 teams.
Like .. okay, let me build a Scarlet/Trina team. Now I cant build a Scarlet Jackal team .. and so on.

[quick lake]

Indeed, pvp uses the same few core units

[high stream]

Which you can maybe do for Rookie arena .. but not for SP arena

[bleak shale]

some of the supports dont really have a huge impact when u build them or not aside from cp

eg, biscuit noah jackal rumani anis centi work about as good at 444 as they do 101010

[quick lake]

xmaiden, laplace, Emi, THelm, Trina, Scar would be the units to invest in skills for SPA

[high stream]

I dont really want to rebuild all of my 3 teams for every single player I face. I'd like to just have 3 strong teams .. I'm currently #15 .. but my team is in desperate need of upgrades. I think I can probably hover top 10? And if not .. at least top 30, which is fine. 2100 vs 2400 gems, i can take it or leave it.

[runic coral]

do you own emilia?

[quick lake]

Can build out the cookie cutter pvp teams ig

[high stream]

No, but I have almost all of these units

[runic coral]

I hover in top 3-5 amongst whales as f2p by just focusing 2 teams

noah and scarlet

my other team is just cp pad but you can also do blanc

[high stream]

My account is just 3 months old .. but this is what I have right now.

[runic coral]

if you're serious about pvp you can invest into this

[high stream]

Not super serious. But I'd like to hover at least top 30 consistently for 2100 gems

[runic coral]

then just do scarlet and noah comp, should be plenty

[high stream]

I can probably build exactly this .. no? Except Soda and Noise, still need those.
What are the investments here?

I have like .. 30.000 skill books.

[runic coral]

damn

toss a few over here?

[high stream]

I just dont know what to do .. my campaign team is currently done .. im just crawling up the CP ladder there now, increasing synchro every now and then. But my Campaign team is fully 10/10/10

Now I dont know what to do with my resources ..

[runic coral]

is your helm full treasure?

[high stream]

Yes and 10/10/10

[runic coral]

or at least 2nd

[high stream]

Plus boxes

[runic coral]

just do min pvp investments from pyrdwen

[high stream]

I think having a decent pvp team is a good investment .. cause of a consistent gem income

so i want to build something that will do that

[misty finch]

How does that work? Target skipping when scar reloads?

[runic coral]

placing top30 doesn't require that, just 2 meta teams is enough

[high stream]

Hm .. gotcha.

[quick lake]

Scar Trina Siren Centi Jackal
Noah Biscuit Cindy THelm Rumani
Auto

Rumani, Noah, Biscuit to 4/4/4 4OL
Trina to 4/7/4 -> 4/10/4
Scar to 7/4/7 -> 10/7/10
Cindy to 7/4/7 -> 10/7/10

This should keep u busy for a long while

[high stream]

Who do I put in here in stead of Noise and soda? I think I have all else.

[runic coral]

whatever rheax just recommended

is good

[high stream]

Oh, okay

[swift mango]

Arena is defending on luck with bracket. The same guy who do min investment could be C1 or D3 defending on how hardcore the bracket is.

[high stream]

My current bracket got massively stronger. Before I was #3 for 2 seasons .. only 2 guys that were stronger than me. But now my team stagnated around 490K .. and some people are 700K

[runic coral]

can do scarbs instead of cindy since your cindy might be low cp

[high stream]

But I think i can get pretty close to that as well. My units lack CP rating .. so OLs, skill investments, etc.

This is the auto team it gave me?

[runic coral]

yea, the idea is just to win by pure cp advantage

[high stream]

Hmm, gotcha. Do I copy the exact same 3 teams for defense?

[runic coral]

these were your defense teams

normally you use 2 teams for attack, but since your third team is auto anyways it works

[clear folio]

why do u always say “defending” when i swear u could mean “depending” curious

[high stream]

im not sure i understand .. so yes, this is both my defense and my attack team?

[swift mango]

Looking at your level your probably broke the wall earlier than others in your bracket and enjoyed it's benefit for a while. But when others start breaking the wall as well your rank dipped.

[runic coral]

yes, I'm just saying that in attack, you normally focus on 2 teams instead of 3 since you only need to win 2 rounds

[high stream]

Within a month. But I also had like .. I would say perfect account economy from Day 1, saved everything for anniversary .. and did over 1000 pulls during it. Broke wall during it .. got almost all meta pilgrims except grave during it

[swift mango]

Yeah, that's why, now invested or lose.

[high stream]

Yes, I think u're right. I need to catch up now. Make some strong teams with decent investment

Well, my CP dropped quite a bit from 500K. I assume this #1 is not a good comparison and something like an absolute giga whale .. but how do I realistically invest to get as strong as the others? 600k+?

They're all between 650-700K somehow

[runic coral]

overload gear

[quick lake]

Have u been buying event core dust? 👀

[high stream]

I have a lot of core dust saved up .. like 150K+ .. but I was told only to invest if I'm stuck in campaign.

[runic coral]

ouch

[quick lake]

That's the reason why u're behind

[swift mango]

Then doing campaign still when you open them all.

[high stream]

No no, it's all unopened, wait

[shell hazel]

are you stuck in campaign?

[runic coral]

spend an entire day pushing campaign, stuck? use as little as you can to unstuck and continue until stuck again, repeat until it runs out

[quick lake]

2k hours

[high stream]

I'm not .. just being a bit lazy right now. Cause I have to manual everything at 25-35% deficits. And it got annoying

Highest deficit I beat was like 37% .. but its sucking the life out of me

[runic coral]

just use the dust if it's annoying too much

[shell hazel]

open some dust crates then

[runic coral]

every xx1 levels you get a huge boost

so 201, 211, 221, etc

[quick lake]

yeah. Just push campaign, open boxes lv up ~10 syncs, push again, rinse repeat

[shell hazel]

min/max is not opening until you need it but hell, sometimes sanity wins 😄

[shell hazel]

every 20, 201, 221 etc

[quick lake]

Specifically, 201, 221, 241, 261

These are the biggest jumps in CP

[high stream]

But i checked .. even using all my coredust right now would get me to 224 .. seems like a bit of a waste?

[runic coral]

oh rly?

weird I recall it being 10

[high stream]

I kinda want to hold until I beat at least normal campaign .. cause I am in chapter 30 already

[runic coral]

pretty sure not using the core dust would be a bigger waste, don't quote me tho

[shell hazel]

balancing act to some degree

but jumping to 221 would make stuff easier and secure SPA better

also you unlock more campaign = more passive core dust

[high stream]

Also .. I think interception bulls### is holding me back a lot. I've been farming for weeks to get ONE helmet for SBS. Ultra 3 times every day.

[shell hazel]

I'm hard stuck though but I've been opening all my core dust and battle data crates for a while 😄

[high stream]

So I cant imagine getting lots of OL gear for all my PVP units any time soon

[shell hazel]

the new bone resource thing from co-op should help with that

[high stream]

I'm not entirely sure what the most efficient way for me would be to use it .. cause I kinda need all gear

[shell hazel]

one missing item etc, like the helm you need for SBS is the best use I'd say

lets you farm another slot you need more of

[high stream]

Like .. im scared to use any of these.

I have no idea which one of those I want to keep or not

[shell hazel]

for furnace? like 7 x spare helms you could use some prob fine

elysion defender helms haunt my dreams 😄

[runic coral]

wouldn't use the furnace if I were you, there will be a time where you'll be farming kraken and start running out of manufacturer gear

[high stream]

Also .. I moved all my Noah gear to crown before overloading it, cause I considered that to be more important than PVP at the time. So now Noah has no gear to OL

[shell hazel]

think you can use these pretty safely

[swift mango]

Either you accept that is your limited or keep cleaning until you hit the limits.

[high stream]

True .. for dust, right

[shell hazel]

yes

the values are static, and I always pick core dust crates on the one where I have to choose credits/data/dust

[high stream]

From what I understand, anything above 35% is pretty much everyones limit

[shell hazel]

you can go higher than 35% but damn it gets rough sometimes lol

[high stream]

So I was pretty proud to get some 35%+ victories on manual

[swift mango]

Then open the box to the next xx(2)1 level and grind. Then hit wall and repeat.

[shell hazel]

I am here

[swift mango]

Do hard mode as well for Chris sake

[high stream]

I am doing hardmode. I'm already in red CP right now in HM and its also just allllll deficit manuals

It's so exhausting.

[shell hazel]

you'll always be at deficit if you're pushing

you'll always need to manual at high deficit

[swift mango]

If you want open all your boxes then start autoing then.

[runic coral]

I remember this stage, used 60 rocks on cindy here 💀

[shell hazel]

I can auto some stages even at deficit but the answer is that it depends

[shell hazel]

I'm close without her. 321 and I think I can do it without Cindy

which may not be today, maybe tomorrow, 1/3rd of the way there

[high stream]

Do I pull the trigger on this and 4x OL?

For PvP

[shell hazel]

I have done 🙂

[high stream]

I need more CP, these people are 200k stronger than me

[swift mango]

If you are lazy, open box to the next x(2)1 level. See if you could auto. If not, open boxes to the next.

Freezing your resource because you are lazy won't do you any good.